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Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on August 09, 2012, 11:31
What a tit.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 09, 2012, 11:40
But he'd shoot off about how difficult it is being KP in a political party he founded.

Replacements be bare. Chris Woakes be the next best batsman, though KP with one foot could bowl better than super dobber.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 09, 2012, 11:54
Could be a massive change. Would be crazy if Strauss stayed on for much longer, he's out of his depths. Might as well draft in Blowers, he won't do any worse.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: sublimit on August 09, 2012, 12:14
Megalomaniac, surely a career in politics beckons when he's finished ca$hing in at the IPL.

Not sure that pays well enough.       He'll probably become a merchant banker at some point.

Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 10, 2012, 01:55
And I thought England's attack was cack. Bairstow 73 not out against Australia A. Guess I can't expect anything but wider and wider half volley from Mitchell Johnson, the four wickets in the first innings was a cunning reward plan by England, and Jackson Bint's not quick enough.

Two fast bowlers? WTF are they trying to emulate? With Lyon and Jon Cloggie?
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 10, 2012, 16:34
Team selection will be interesting for the 3rd test.  They have to pick an attack that they think can take 20 wickets, which means Swann has to come in.  They need the Lord's groundstaff to prepare a wicket that enables that, rather than a featherbed.  Yes, the Saffa's may skittle you on a juicy wicket, but equally, Anderson is capable of running through any batting line up in the world on his day.  If they go with five bowlers however, Prior will presumably then bat at 6.  Which means Taylor would be dropped - a bit harsh after a promising debut. 

Re strength in depth, I've never been his biggest fan, but Bresnan does not look like a test standard bowler.  Onions  would be a better bet imho, even if Bresnan is a better batsman.  Woakes/Meaker/any others on the county circuit - who knows.  When's Tremlett back fit?
For the batsmen, the selectors clearly like Bairstow, and he'll get another chance soon enough (once KP is  shown the door...?)  Root's clearly the annointed successor to Strauss when the time comes, but not exactly filled with confidence...
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 11, 2012, 03:04
Tremlett may need a knee surgery. That'd sideline him for a few months, and it really can't bode well, he may be a crocked force now, and I like him. Agree about Bres and Onions.

U19 World cup has started today. Aneesh Kapil and Dan Bell Drummond are the standouts from your lot. Bell Drummond is a decent player, but they're having their arses handed in by baby AUssies.

Indian squad-
Unmukt Chand (capt), Akshdeep Nath (vc), Manan Vohra, Akhil Herwadkar, Vijay Zol, Sandipan Das, Baba Aparajith, Prashant Chopra, Sandeep Sharma, Kamal Passi, Rush Kalaria, Mohsin Sayyed, Smit Patel (wk), Harmeet Singh, Vikas Mishra.

Zol was decent in the Asian U19s and Chand is the most reputed of that lot.

Cam Bancroft of Australia's made his ODD debut and played three matches, and totalled an impressive 2 runs. He's not a tailender btw.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 12, 2012, 00:52
I'll assume it's not Giles as he wasn't a bowler but an impersonator. So, Simon Jones it is. Poor bloke ruptured his knee at the Gabba back in 2002. Was a perennial crock since then, but what a fine bowler.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 12, 2012, 04:00
FFS even our U19s suck.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 12, 2012, 21:43
I'll assume it's not Giles as he wasn't a bowler but an impersonator. So, Simon Jones it is. Poor bloke ruptured his knee at the Gabba back in 2002. Was a perennial crock since then, but what a fine bowler.

Ram, how dare you criticise the King of Spain!  But yes, Jones was such a talent, now playing at Glamorgan - was at Hampshire, but never been the same player since 2005.

OK, so KP left out of the squad for the final test.  Bloody nora, that's a surprise, but after 'textgate', it's clear the selectors prioritise team unity above all else.  On the plus side, golden opportunity to play 5 bowlers in order to try and win the test - Taylor at 5, Prior at 6, then Bresnana, Broad, Swann, Anderson, Finn, but I have a horrible feeling it will be the usual line up of 6 plus Prior then the 4 bowlers...  We'll see. 

I would love it though, if at the toss on Thursday, the presenter asked Strauss 'So, Andrew, any changes made for this game...?'   ;D

Also worth noting, this has got to be game over for KP's international career.  Can't see how he will get back in - central contracts handed out in September, wouldn't be surprised if he was not offered one.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 13, 2012, 02:52
I'll take KP's side on this texting issue. HTF did private text conversations get leaked to the public? The telegraph reported that the ECB asked the South African players to reveal the alleged texts. WTF? Thick by KP, but since when did the boards start snooping?

As it is, I think KP now is like Flintoff 2009, and not regarded so highly in the dressing room. May be all the better in the long run.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: just some guy on August 13, 2012, 09:01
was away and cricket is down on the list

what did KP say really ?
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 13, 2012, 13:11
Too much to summarise in a post. That said, considering your post, I'm having thoughts of putting thee on the ignore list.

Basically, first his retirement. Then saying he wanted to play T20, then he sooked about how tough it was for him to be KP in England, then he revoked his retirement, then his messages to Steyn and AB were leaked. Now it's all just sh*te.

In positive news, one of the Overton twins is rapid. Think it's Jamie, but he's well faster than the first team atm.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: just some guy on August 13, 2012, 13:12
 :P



 ;D
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 13, 2012, 17:02
Another bloody premier league. FFS, I thought Lanka's PL was doomed.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 14, 2012, 00:59
Shiet, WTF is wrong with the ECB? Only KP gets disciplined? This bails the badger Ryan Bailey is a mate of Bresnan and Broad, and slags off KP publicly and KP's the only villain. His stance has actually been strengthened. What a load of bullsh*t this toxic dressing room is. It's usually overrated (Church and Warne) but this is public mickey taking. Add to that a rabbit who can't play spin and who can't pull or hook or duck and England are ready for a dose of arse flip. So they'll win the last test before coming to India to have their arses handed in. It's all a ploy for that.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP at even more Genius than before
Post by: ram on August 14, 2012, 14:53
We have a Vinay Kumar clone in our U19s. Goodness me, of all the things that could be cloned, Sharma has to pick Vinay Kumar. Absolute lardheap of a bowler to emulate, and he's also a 75 mile an hour dobber.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: lancasterke on August 14, 2012, 18:26
serves KP right. he's a tool and he's not young enough to expect people to bend over for him. it's also not his first issue with the england team (peter moores) good riddance.

Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: froome19 on August 14, 2012, 18:43
I see him coming back, Flower is a tough coach and will not allow it unless KP truly "repents" so to speak, but he has the desire to continue playing and he certainly has the talent.

Interestingly these cases of top players warring with their countries' cricket boards are getting more and more common imo and imo it is starting to get a bit concerning.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 15, 2012, 01:36
Dropping the best batsman in the team is clearly not going to do any favours. Bell, Strauss and Bairstow are absolute passengers. Seriously, when was the last time Strauss scored some half decent runs against a good team or Bell showing any semblance of half grit? How does it help this team spirit thing that a mate of KP's team mates (Broad, Bresnan and Hales) takes the mickey out of him publicly? And since when did the ECB start personality policing by scouring out text messages? Why not do the same for Broad, Bresnan, Hales and possibly the ego chin Swann. Ryan Bailey had some inside info wrt the dressing room, not as a team member level but he had some (when the team went to dinner and who), and that's been ignored in this new disciplinarian ECB.

Not defending his texts or any of his plethora of shenanigans, he deserves a lot that comes his way, but it seems he's being made a scapegoat of sorts when he's been the only performer for England in the series. Also, the quicker Derek Pringle shuts up, the better. An absolute waste of time.

And Bresnan's comments yesterday, what a load of sh*t. Might as well shut his gob and make the most sense he does, especially when he's dobbing it worse than Chris Woakes.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 15, 2012, 01:47
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/top-stories/Model-names-Pakistani-umpire-Asad-Rauf-in-sex-scandal/articleshow/15497331.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/top-stories/Model-names-Pakistani-umpire-Asad-Rauf-in-sex-scandal/articleshow/15497331.cms)

Any doubt that Asad's a legend? :win
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: DinZ on August 15, 2012, 02:24
Could not see Dicky Bird managing that.

and since when did promising marriage for sex then backing off result in the police being called.

if they arrested every man that lied for sex....
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 15, 2012, 07:30
She could accuse him on more tenable grounds. Not that he'll get convicted ever.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 15, 2012, 11:19
Ram, I think you're spot on to talk about double standards here.  If people believe Broad when he says he had nothing to do with the  fake twitter account, despite it being one of his best mates, then they'll believe anything.  Interesting point in the paper this morning, about how so much of this does not add up: KP was offended by the tweets, yet apparently interacted with them (don't know what he said though); also, Bailey "a self confessed showman" close the account unless he was pressurised to do so, when he could have enjoyed the notoriety...?   Much as I think the ECB are right to discipline KP for the sake of team unity, it does seem like it is one rule for him, and another for the other players.  By all accounts, KP was hoping for some sort of disciplinary action against Broad as a prelude to his own apology.  If the ECB seem able to get acces to KP's texts, surely they could do the same with Broad's phone and see what, if anything, he has texted to Bailey...? 

As for the apology that his agent issued to the ECB yesterday, it's clearly not enough - for them at least.  They want a a full public no holds barred grovelling it sounds like, something I can't see KP doing willingly.  Although he now says he has made himself available (again!) for all forms of international cricket, I don't see him being picked for any of the limited overs stuff vs South Africa.  KP's ego will take offence that despite his efforts to apologise and be available, England aren't interested, and therefore say bo to a central contract in September, which would be game over as far as his  international career is concerned.  An arrogant so and  so he might be, but if we have seen him in international cricket for the last time, it is a very sad day for not only English cricket but the international game as a whole. 
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 15, 2012, 11:28
Sage Dances. We saw him at pretty much his best in the second test, and batting really doesn't get too much better than that. I certainly don't want him to go into Pollardesque 2020 oblivion.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: froome19 on August 15, 2012, 14:01
A brief change of topic as a former England bowler gets mired in even greater trouble than the spot of bother KP is in, in the form of Liam Plunkett who was not all that bad in his day..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-19269276 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-19269276)
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 15, 2012, 14:07
Which day was he not all bad? ;D Good county bowler, England were scraping the barrel when they selected him.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 16, 2012, 03:42
Goodness, England's U19s are sh*t with the bat. Not a wonder at all considering where Aneesh Kapil bats
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 16, 2012, 13:29
Good session for England. Dodgy decisions there. You lot are being set up for India.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: froome19 on August 16, 2012, 13:36
Massive session for England in fact, to topple the very batsmen who have plagued and tormented them so much is great motivation and this very well maybe the necessary push to awaken the team from the slumber it has been in since the begining of this series. Maybe i shouldnt get too far ahead of myslf especially with the state of England's middle order at the moment, but good signs so far and I am hoping to witness an English victory when I go to Lords on Sunday.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 16, 2012, 13:46
Weather forecast looks bad, but the umpires might gift England another five soon.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: froome19 on August 16, 2012, 14:59
De Villiers gone and with him so too are SA's hopes of posting a respectable first innings score....

Broad not looking at his best especially considering he is bowling well below his usual pace.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- KP no more Genius
Post by: ram on August 16, 2012, 15:40
Just asked an umpire about the DRS. It's pretty clear that Tucker cocked up with regards to Kallis. The rules state that the TV umpire should not withhold information to the on field umpire even if he's not prompted for it.

Kallis, hand off handle. Not out.

Dharmasena may have asked whether he gloved it, and the answer may have been in the affirmative, but he didn't glove it when in contact with the bat. Mistake by Tucker.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 16, 2012, 16:48
Pitch is flat.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on August 16, 2012, 17:28
Pitch is flat.
So worrying signs for the SA batsmen who should not be on the backfoot, combination of bad luck and poor play, but Finn surely has secured the 3rd pace bowler slot today. Though he should have secured it long ago anyways, it seems that these 3 should also be the 3 in the ODI team, with Bresnan one again making way, if none of them are being rested for tests. T20 Bresnan should still have a claim considering Anderson is generally too expensive in the format, but I watched Finn in a CB40 at Lords for Middlesex last year where he took a 5 for and he was absolutely unbelievable and I think he will be just as effective in T20 especially as the selectors seem to favour him for their limited overs sides. Onions seems to be on the outskirts of the team, but the way I see it he doesnt offer anything the others do not. Tremlett? Maybe but he needs to stay injury free and build up sufficient form because being seriously considered

All in all that leaves little room for the likes of Dernbach or Meaker, but none of them have yet to show anything to suggest they are capable of matching these 4, Dernbach seems too one dimensional to me to become a ODI or Test bowler and if played right he can be a massive liability in tests. There really isnt room for many new bowlers to stake their claim at the moment with guys like Shahzad and Plunkett, though I dont rate them anyway, really unlikely to ever have another shoo in.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 16, 2012, 18:04
So worrying signs for the SA batsmen who should not be on the backfoot, combination of bad luck and poor play, but Finn surely has secured the 3rd pace bowler slot today. Though he should have secured it long ago anyways, it seems that these 3 should also be the 3 in the ODI team, with Bresnan one again making way, if none of them are being rested for tests. T20 Bresnan should still have a claim considering Anderson is generally too expensive in the format, but I watched Finn in a CB40 at Lords for Middlesex last year where he took a 5 for and he was absolutely unbelievable and I think he will be just as effective in T20 especially as the selectors seem to favour him for their limited overs sides. Onions seems to be on the outskirts of the team, but the way I see it he doesnt offer anything the others do not. Tremlett? Maybe but he needs to stay injury free and build up sufficient form because being seriously considered
Easier said than done to get on the front foot when swinging all over and getting short balls.

Even post today's efforts, Finn's shortcomings are clear, he bowls some peaches but also some absolute drivel in the middle of that. Good for meaningless OD stuff and against county journeymen, but the international players will pick off his rubbish and they consistently do so. He bowls like he usually does in the subcontinent, and he'd get no wickets. Onions is well better than Finn now, far more consistent and far less wayward sh*te. Will he have a 4 wicket spell? No, not likely, but he'll never concede 100 in 15 overs either.

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All in all that leaves little room for the likes of Dernbach or Meaker, but none of them have yet to show anything to suggest they are capable of matching these 4, Dernbach seems too one dimensional to me to become a ODI or Test bowler and if played right he can be a massive liability in tests. There really isnt room for many new bowlers to stake their claim at the moment with guys like Shahzad and Plunkett, though I dont rate them anyway, really unlikely to ever have another shoo in.
Problem with Dernbach is, apart from being a no good sh*t block, that he thinks he has many dimensions when he's a sh*t bowler with a muddled brain. How much better would he the dirt bag be if his wrist was plastered in a cast and he wasn't allowed to bowl any slow balls? Guess it's not much, he's just sh*t.

Plunkett? If he ever plays for England again, they're in trouble. Shahzad? :censored, but at least he has potential. Though Moeen Ashraf is the new thing in terms of Yorkie quicks. Meaker? Let's see, he's got the stuff.

Nass spewing about bowling depth is just cringeworthy. Yeah, depth... guess that depth helped when getting beaten by 18 wickets and looking as toothy as a flipping earthworm in Headingley.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on August 16, 2012, 19:04
Wasnt watching in the Tea interval but....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19289543 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19289543)
All I can say to this is.... LOL

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Jamaican sprinter and triple Olympic medal winner at London 2012 Yohan Blake believes he is a "better cricketer" than he is a sprinter.
The 22-year-old was a guest of honour at Lord's for the first day of England's final Test with South Africa and rang the bell to start play.
"I love cricket, more than I love athletics," he told Sky Sports during the tea interval.
He also revealed the chance of playing Twenty20 is a "real possibility".
Blake was second best to his friend and training partner Usain Bolt in both the 100m and 200m at the Olympics before the duo combined to help Jamaica take gold in the 4x100m relay and break the world record.
He admitted he still plays competitively for Kingston Cricket Club and said both he and Bolt would love to play in the Twenty20 Big Bash League in Australia.
"It is a possibility and definitely one I hope comes true," said Blake.
"I practise at home because I have a bowling machine, which I set to 90mph because I like the speed."
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 17, 2012, 10:19
Pretty good day for England yesterday, but an excellent fightback from ABDV, Rudolph, Duminy, Philander and Steyn.  Would have been good if they had been able to get another wicket last night, but hopefully they can wrap it up in the first hour this morning.  Finn is an enigma - brilliant at times, wayward and too expensive at others.  It's a toss up between the wickets he takes and the runs that he will concede.  In limited overs cricket, he has been England's best bowler for the last 2 years or so, but still not quite the finished article in test matches.  Interestingly, after being left out of the side yesterday morning, Onions bolted up the M1 and proceeded to take 9 wickets against Notts (and ran out number 10).  So not a bad day's work then!

As for Blake, I call bs.  Apparently he was interviewed by Sky at tea, and told Holding that he was as quick a bowler as the great man back in the day.  And he would like to see T20 in the Olympics, so that he could compete in both that and athletics...  If he and Bolt do play in the Big Bash, it would certainly bring in the crowds, but it would smack of a publicity stunt rather than anything based on their cricketing ability.  Would also be quite fun to see the pair of them brought back down to size a bit if someone Aussie that  no one has ever heard of takes Blake's 90mph bowling apart  ;D
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 17, 2012, 10:42
Blake's clever, no Australian below the age of 30 can hold a bat. Even Mark Ealham would look like Dennis Lillee there.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: sublimit on August 17, 2012, 14:03
The usual clever bowling from SA,  Morkel pitching it short and Philanderer and Steyn bowling at the stumps.   

Saffirs all over England at the minute with 3 down for 39.

Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 17, 2012, 14:05
Dropping Pietersen was a masterstroke. WTF were England thinking. The batting's sh*te, and they have to depend of the Belly to score their runs.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: sublimit on August 17, 2012, 14:05
Jimmy Taylor and Jonny Bairstow next up.   :fp
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: sublimit on August 17, 2012, 14:08
Dropping Pietersen was a masterstroke. WTF were England thinking. The batting's sh*te, and they have to depend of the Belly to score their runs.

Its getting like England under Nassir Hussain in having a next to useless batting line up.   
At least we have 6 batters though which is something and not committing suicide with 5.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 17, 2012, 14:16
Its getting like England under Nassir Hussain in having a next to useless batting line up.   
At least we have 6 batters though which is something and not committing suicide with 5.
Sage

And looking at that bouncer that had Jimmy Taylor in a tangle, the ginga minga is not scoring more than 6 today.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: sublimit on August 17, 2012, 14:41
Little Jimmy Taylor is gawn for 10.     I thought he might get 23  ::)

Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 17, 2012, 14:43
Follow on target still 55 runs away.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: sublimit on August 17, 2012, 14:50
Its like Romans throwing Christians to the lions,    The best bowling attack in world cricket against novices.

Pietersen should tell England to shove it and play 20 20 for cash full time.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 17, 2012, 14:58
That would be hella grouse.

Belly going boundary mad. Or at least in comparison to the rest of the innigns.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 17, 2012, 18:57
I'm torn.  Between wanting England to play well and bat through tomorrow to get themselves into a commanding position, and Bairstow being the man who will have to do that job...  Sure they haven't played that well this series, but to criticise the England batting to the extent that some of you lot have done is to disregard everything that they have done over the last 2 years.  however, for the greater good, I hope he and Prior get stuck in tomorrow and go big.

Dropping Pietersen was a masterstroke. WTF were England thinking. The batting's sh*te, and they have to depend of the Belly to score their runs.

Ram, I know you love to criticise Bell, but fact is, he has been arguably the most consistent batsman for England in that time, and is a far cry from the player he was back in 2007.  KP being dropped was clearly non-negotiable.  No matter his game changing ability with the bat, what he did, in the eyes of the England management (who are the ones who really matter here), crossed the line- not only with the texts, but also in trying to dictate the terms of his availability. 

Its getting like England under Nassir Hussain in having a next to useless batting line up.   
At least we have 6 batters though which is something and not committing suicide with 5.

Sub, it's very harsh to say that England have gone back to the revolving door and ineptitude of the 1990s.  A marked feature of the last few years has been their consistency in selection, which has paid dividends, and lest we forget, got them to the top of the world rankings (although imho this is only a statistics and doesn't mean a great deal).  Taylor and Bairstow are two very promising young players who the ECB clearly like the look of, and want to bring into the test set up.  They are young, and will take time to find their feet, but they deserve that chance.  Incidentally, Prior is easily good enough to bat at 6.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 18, 2012, 01:10
Aye, I love to criticise him. Watch Kohli next :D

He has been consistent, no doubt, but the situation has always been such that it was against powder puff. His best contributions came on the Jaarpie tour of 2009, some proper innings in adverse conditions. Once the challenge became a bit more difficult than facing Mark Ealham like Indian dobbers or Mitchell on Johnson form, he flopped again. See Abu Dhabi, Sri Lanka and again this series. Need more from him at such times, and I don't believe he'll be a KP or even a Cook or Strauss (remember his form in India during the KP Moores fiasco) at their peak for mine.

Speaking of KP Moores, did Pietersen get knighted for booting out that incompetent nonsense?
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: sublimit on August 18, 2012, 12:27
 

Sub, it's very harsh to say that England have gone back to the revolving door and ineptitude of the 1990s.  A marked feature of the last few years has been their consistency in selection, which has paid dividends, and lest we forget, got them to the top of the world rankings (although imho this is only a statistics and doesn't mean a great deal).  Taylor and Bairstow are two very promising young players who the ECB clearly like the look of, and want to bring into the test set up.  They are young, and will take time to find their feet, but they deserve that chance.  Incidentally, Prior is easily good enough to bat at 6.

Well yes, I'm not against young players getting a chance,  but going with two untested batters to go with the patchy form of some of the others  is kind of risky IMO.       

Anyway Bairstow proving me wrong at the minute on 95 not out.         
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 18, 2012, 12:40
FFS
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: sublimit on August 18, 2012, 12:49
Bugger.    He's out for 95.     

Well played the ginger guy against the best pace attack i've seen in ages.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 18, 2012, 12:57
Aye, shame for him. Definitely didn't expect that from him though, top innings.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on August 18, 2012, 13:16
Laxman has retired. Great batsman. That's the Kolkatta 2001 partnership gone. Anyone who could toy with that Australian attack was special, and Laxman was indeed special. His last great innings? Guiding India to a home win against Australia needing another hundred runs with only Ishant (alongside him) and Ojha (next man in).  Special batsman who was at his best when the situation most needed an inspired innings. I'll miss him, but it was time to go. Hope he enjoys his retirement.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 18, 2012, 22:02
Laxman has retired. Great batsman. That's the Kolkatta 2001 partnership gone. Anyone who could toy with that Australian attack was special, and Laxman was indeed special. His last great innings? Guiding India to a home win against Australia needing another hundred runs with only Ishant (alongside him) and Ojha (next man in).  Special batsman who was at his best when the situation most needed an inspired innings. I'll miss him, but it was time to go. Hope he enjoys his retirement.

Ditto.  Often overlooked in the headlines next to Tendulkar/Dravid/Sehwag etc. but a wonderful player.  I think I'm right in saying that he has the best 4th innings record of any batsmen in test cricket... (or something like that!)  Always seemed to pull out something special when India needed it most.

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Post by: froome19 on August 18, 2012, 22:23
Easier said than done to get on the front foot when swinging all over and getting short balls.
:fp :fp  Not that type of Backfoot...
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Post by: ram on August 19, 2012, 01:03
Then the struggling backfoot? Again, the ball was swinging and England has a good attack for those conditions. England could roll this lot over for 250 and the chase would still be a very tough one. That's where the batting stands atm.
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Post by: ram on August 19, 2012, 05:07
Every now and then the U19s shows a flicker of life. South Africa against England. Future keeper Gerald de Kock failed today, but they should win. England's batting really doesn't seem capable of chasing down 230 odd. Bell Drummond already gone.

Future England- Foakes, Stokes and Woakes (I hate myself for that)?

Australia Bangladesh is shaping up well. Bangers beat the Lankans earlier and now have Australia 3/33 chasing 171.
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Post by: ram on August 19, 2012, 09:11
Terrible from the English U19s. De Kock had a good match as keeper.

Australia beat the Bangers by five wickets and the Scots beat the Zimbots :fp
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Post by: froome19 on August 19, 2012, 09:58
Then the struggling backfoot? Again, the ball was swinging and England has a good attack for those conditions. England could roll this lot over for 250 and the chase would still be a very tough one. That's where the batting stands atm.
Granted it is going to be a really tight match and it is perfectly poised at the moment, any chase against this SA attack is going to be tough...

Right now SA have the ability to put themselves in the driving seat with a strong patnership and considering you expect their tail to add on some runs their score will most likely always be competitive...

Anyway I am off now to Lords to see how it goes... :wave
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Post by: ram on August 19, 2012, 11:33
Enjoy, Froome.
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Post by: ram on August 19, 2012, 11:47
Being reported that KP texted Steyn about how to get Strauss out. If true, Pietersen can right flip off. I'll defend  criticism of others, but this is just sh*tting on his employers.
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Post by: sublimit on August 19, 2012, 11:58
Indeed, if thats the case he's dog meat as far as playing for England again is concerned. (does that make sense?)

Laxman could play, always go down as the guy that played that epic innings.   In other news Jimmy Anderson just put down a dolly drop.   :fp




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Post by: sublimit on August 19, 2012, 16:08
Peitersen out first ball playing for Surrey against Hampshire today.    ;D

brought the house down apparently.
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Post by: froome19 on August 19, 2012, 21:14
All my doubts about Finn's quality evaporated today in that amazing spell of his which truly underlined his credentials as a fast bowler.

He was afar England's most lethal bowler today on a day when for once Anderson seemed unusually tame and he managed to take the wickets of De Villiers and Amla both of whom didnt seem like they were getting out anytime soon. His pace is greater than the other bowlers, but it is his length and line which were far superior to the other bowlers and the ball he bowled to Amla was a true example of how they all should have been bowling, he also manages to swing and seem the ball enough that the batsmen are never sure when to play frontfoot and when to play back foot. His bouncers and short balls are also lethal due to his height and all in all he has improved and is still improving into a quality fast bowler whom may even be the new spearhead of the England attack.
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Post by: sublimit on August 20, 2012, 12:28
First Peiterson gives advice to SA on how to get Strauss out, (like anybody needs that because its obvious to anybody), now Trott runs out wee Jimmy Taylor.   

The England national team infiltrated by SA turncoats.       ;D
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Post by: Tuart on August 20, 2012, 14:58
What ridiculous helmet Taylor was wearing.
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Post by: Tuart on August 20, 2012, 14:59
This is a good laugh: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19313155 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19313155)
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 25, 2012, 17:53
Yes Hampshire!  Twenty20 final gets under way at 6.45 UK time, Hampshire taking on Sussex. 

Have to feel for Somerset, they just seem destined to never win this tournament!
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 25, 2012, 21:45
:win :fanfare  :win :fanfare  :win :fanfare :win :fanfare

Hampshire, 2nd title in 3 years, WOOHOO!!!  Chris Wood, 3 wickets in the final over  :pray :pray :pray  So happy right now!






Got to feel for David Miller, 72* from 46 balls, almost single handedly winning the game for Yorkshire, certainly had me very tense right up until the final over!
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 26, 2012, 10:57
Ram, your boys did it!  Congratulations to India's U19's on the success.  Chand looks like a very good prospect, especially with gaps starting to appear in the senior Indian side's top order.

Ian Chappell makes some good points on it here: http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/579325.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/579325.html)
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Post by: sublimit on August 29, 2012, 11:13
Ram is missing in action,     hopefully his studies go well but yeah nice to see Hampshire continue with their solid finals day conversion of wins in limited overs comps.   

Strauss about to retire I think.    Good player with 100 caps and averaging over 40 though if he continues thats likely to drop into the thirties so a good time to go.
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Post by: froome19 on August 29, 2012, 11:25
There is certainly no pace bowling attack in the world atm which can rival the Proteas...
They are capable of resting Philander, Steyn and Kallis and still field an attack which easily
betters our batsmen including a bowler who is 2nd in the rankings..

Good to see the ECB wont let the Strauss debacle continue, he is obviously not up to the level of test cricket and for him to continue would be folly. The question is there is no obvious candidate to replace him.. if only Marcus Treskothick was still playing.....

Now is the chance for new batsmen to come into the side with KP gone and Strauss close to following him and the fact our middle order needs a reshuffle. But it seems as if the candidates are just a bit reluctant to step up to the plate and it is imperative for English cricket that they do.
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Post by: cj2002 on August 29, 2012, 12:05
Strauss about to retire I think.    Good player with 100 caps and averaging over 40 though if he continues thats likely to drop into the thirties so a good time to go.

Spooky premonition there Subs.

Strauss retires from all forms of professional cricket with immediate effect. Not something I was expecting, I have to say... stepping down from the captaincy was no surprise, but hanging up his pads completely seems odd to me.
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Post by: froome19 on August 29, 2012, 12:08
Spooky premonition there Subs.

Strauss retires from all forms of professional cricket with immediate effect. Not something I was expecting, I have to say... stepping down from the captaincy was no surprise, but hanging up his pads completely seems odd to me.
To me they go hand in hand, the only reason he was still in the team was due to his captaincy. Once that goes so does his place in the team and it would be advisable he retires..
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 29, 2012, 12:55
Very sad to see him go.  His achievements as captain put him up there with the England greats.  He always sought (and more often than not succeeded) to lead by example, a fantastic role model, and an ultimate team man.  I can understand why he has called it quite, although I thought he would go on until after the next Ashes series.  A bit surprised that he's retired completely - thought he would just retire from international cricket, and then perhaps see out the season with Middlesex, but enough is enough I suppose. 

As for a replacement - bearing in mind that their first assignment will be to tour India, arguably the hardest place in the world to tour, hmm....  During their rise to the top, England seemed to have reasonable strength in depth in the middle order, and it was all built on a solid and dependable opening partnership (most successful for England ever I think...?), so there was no need to look for a replacement.  Whereas Bopara, Morgan, Bairstow, and Taylor have all been blooded at number 6 (and the likes of Compton who have come close are also middle order players), there has been no need to find an opener/top 3 bat.  Likely candidates that I can see therefore, are a bit thin on the ground.  Carberry has one test to his name, and then got jettisonned.  Has since had a carear threatening illness but come back to something near his best.  Joe Root is clearly the man the selectors like the  look of, but  is possibly a season too early at least I would have thought.  Outside shot could be Jimmy Adams (although I may be suffering from Hampshire bias here!), but has had a number of good season's in recent years and tends to score big hundreds.  Potential downside being that both Carbs and Adams are 31.  Other possibilities could be Varun Chopra?  Any others...?
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Post by: froome19 on August 31, 2012, 17:54
Once again the problem with all the players you name is that none of them stand out. I would go for a gamble; possibly Root..

England finally get the better of the SA batting and it is now down to our own batsmen to fend off their bowling, not an easy task but one considering the total, which we should be up to.  Hopefully this will inject some much needed confidence into the side prior to the T20 world cup
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 31, 2012, 21:54
If in doubt, rely on an Irishman and a Saffa  ;) 
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Post by: froome19 on September 01, 2012, 22:10
If in doubt, rely on an Irishman and a Saffa  ;)
Tbh it didnt work in the test series, and look at the 2 players who just deserted us..  :)
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Post by: froome19 on September 05, 2012, 22:34
Amla :pray

After a brief respite things reverted to how they were in the test series with our batting under performing and their batting seemingly unstoppable,
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Post by: sublimit on September 06, 2012, 12:27
Amla must be the most improved international player of recent times.      There's hope for Bopara yet if he can take some inspiration from the guy.

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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 08, 2012, 08:28
Amla must be the most improved international player of recent times.      There's hope for Bopara yet if he can take some inspiration from the guy.

Haha, that's possibly hoping for too much.  Agree about Amla, but what on earth has happened to Bopara's batting since the Aussie ODI's?  He looked almost decent there, and now looks like he doesn't know which end of the bat to hold. 

Was reasonably impressed with Woakes the other day - batted ok, and bowled quite nicely too, although not that quick.

Congratulations to Warwickshire on clinching the title (after coming  so close last year).  CB40 final is set up nicely between the County Champions, and the T20 Champions.  Incidentally, I wonder if England will let Bell play for Warwickshire - the final is next Saturday, and the T20s (if Bell plays in those...?) will be all done by then.  I hope so, as I am going to watch  8)
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Post by: froome19 on September 08, 2012, 22:32
Lancs  :'(

We deserve to go down though and with our squad it was not like we ever performed below expectations, rather last year we just performed way above what we should have and got a bit lucky at the same time with our Liverpool fixtures and Shiv Chanderpaul running out of matches. Really the county hopefully now with Old Trafford up and running effectively, hopefully we can focus on improving the squad but it has been a very tumultuous time for Lancs and it will take a determined effort to get back up next season and hopefully the signing of some good players. In terms of the limited overs it seems like that may in fact be Lancs' greatest chance of victory atm, yet it seems like the county never have the quality or composure to win their semi finals and it is just a case of a bit of extra quality required, primarily in the batting department where batsmen like Moore are good but Lancs need a bit extra to succeed.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 09, 2012, 13:07
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/581478.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/581478.html)

Have to say, I think he's got a point.  It's clear that there has been a measure of double standards seemingly applied to KP and the rest of the team.  England don't seem to be too interested in hearing what he has to say unless it is an unreserved apology, so his international future does look rather bleak...  Rather disappointing from an England fan's perspective
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Post by: ram on September 11, 2012, 15:03
How quiet has this place been eh?

Here's the problem, and Georgie Dobbell admitted to it on his twitter account, journos fuel the fire by posting private matter in the public domain.

twittery all round. Incidentally twitto played a top meaningless twenty20 innings yesterday.
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Post by: ram on September 12, 2012, 12:16
Dourby getting fliped. Grouse, and Hants may even get a bit of my support now. How green is that pitch? Barely any brown in the county ground.
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Post by: ram on September 12, 2012, 12:25
In yer face Chavis, you may have the sh*ttest England player atm but you're still sh*te. 2/25 Pettini and Shah in now.
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Post by: ram on September 12, 2012, 12:32
Moeeen! You flipping beaut. Mark sh*ttini gone.
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Post by: ram on September 12, 2012, 12:37
Found an interesting bit of trivia overnight. One really only for Spider to have any chance, can't expect others to follow Grade cricket.
What was Warnie's best figures in Grade cricket before making his FC debut?

Lunch, Derby going on ace bat Palladino's score :D
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 12, 2012, 21:52
Buttler finally comes good and shows the world what he can do :fanfare

Possibly putting himself in the frame for the IPL.

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What was Warnie's best figures in Grade cricket before making his FC debut?
I'll hazard a guess at 8-54.  Am I right?  What do I win?
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Post by: ram on September 13, 2012, 00:53
A shed load of fresh air.


PS
It's not nearly as good as you'd expect.
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Post by: just some guy on September 13, 2012, 09:47
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/was-morkels-howler-the-worst-wide-in-cricket-history-20120913-25tr9.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/was-morkels-howler-the-worst-wide-in-cricket-history-20120913-25tr9.html)
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Post by: ram on September 13, 2012, 10:45
Andre Adams to Andy Bichel. Another crap ball.

Getting more on Pietersen by the hour. All I'll say is, England's rise to number one was achieved by meticulous planning, and their fall, and looking swift, is by seeing things as they come.
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Post by: ram on September 13, 2012, 15:18
By the way, dancing, I'm growing more angry at Hants. They're great when they need to be rubbish, Finals Day, and now crap when they need to be good.

Worcester are just abject.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 13, 2012, 15:23
By the way, dancing, I'm growing more angry at Hants. They're great when they need to be rubbish, Finals Day, and now crap when they need to be good.

 :o  how very dare you sir!  Chance of promotion already gone out the window, so result in the game against Derbyshire is fairly immaterial (from a Hampshire perspective).  We'll be in division 2 again next year unfortunately.  And on no account did they need to be rubbish on Finals Day (or this Saturday!), clearly we just rock at limited overs cricket  ;)
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Post by: ram on September 13, 2012, 15:27
Just throw them out the window with their chances. Carberry taking a wicket with his second ball after a few hours of nothing and Balcombe batting more than bowling. Just flip the order and Hants might even challenge Glamorgan. They'd still get Root for a duck, mind.

Spoiler (hover to show)
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 13, 2012, 16:16
The plot thickens...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/story/582093.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/story/582093.html)
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Post by: ram on September 13, 2012, 18:13
Yeah, the ECB are bunch of clueless :censoreds. Pointless column chasing. And how many leaks.

Derbyshire will win division 2.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 14, 2012, 11:33
Rather predictable but man, I hate the IPL

http://www.espncricinfo.com/champions-league-twenty20-2012/content/current/story/582178.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/champions-league-twenty20-2012/content/current/story/582178.html)
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Post by: ram on September 14, 2012, 17:50
There wouldn't be this tournament without the IPL. It's really a joke tournament.

Iain O'Brien (http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/579767.html)

Tim Ambrose (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/news/9541871/Exclusive-Warwickshire-wicketkeeper-Tim-Ambrose-reveals-his-long-battle-against-depression.html)

Darren Cousins (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/counties/9542025/Former-Essex-and-Northamptonshire-cricketer-Darren-Cousins-I-was-so-wrong-to-think-I-had-nothing-to-live-for.html)

Each are good reading. Cousins' piece though is also a troublesome one.
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Post by: froome19 on September 15, 2012, 21:30
Fluky way to win for Hants but deserved success for them nevertheless I guess.

Kabir Ali :pray
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 15, 2012, 22:51
Great day out at Lord's, last 5 overs or so were incredibly tense.  Momentum swinging one way then the other.  Thought we had it when Bell got himself out, then Woakes hit Wood's last over for 13, but Blackwell (who is fricking enormous!) played a stupid slog when all he had to do was get a single and put Woakes on strike and got bowled.  And then Carter hit that 4 off the penultimate ball!  Oh man it was good!

As a side show, the potential England opener face off: Carberry looked out of this world but was a rather tame dismissal; Adams - less pyrotechnics, but played an outstanding captain's innings; Chopra - ok but wasn't overly impressed by him.

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Post by: ram on September 16, 2012, 02:49
Yeah, well done your lot. a final fitting the setting for the first time in many years. Was in fact watching the 93 final between Warwickshire Sussex yesterday. Good stuff.

sh*t for Carter, to retire falling a run short.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 18, 2012, 17:35
England squad for India tour.  No Taylor  :'(
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/582728.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/582728.html)

But he is in the Performance squad -
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England Performance squad Jos Buttler (Somerset), Gary Ballance (Yorkshire), Scott Borthwick (Durham), Danny Briggs (Hampshire), Varun Chopra (Warwickshire), Matthew Coles (Kent), Jade Dernbach (Surrey), Ben Foakes (Essex), James Harris (Glamorgan), Simon Kerrigan (Lancashire), Craig Kieswetter (Somerset), Stuart Meaker (Surrey), Azeem Rafiq (Yorkshire), Toby Roland-Jones (Middlesex), Ben Stokes (Durham), James Taylor (Nottinghamshire), Chris Wright (Warwickshire)
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Post by: Arb on September 19, 2012, 08:31
You would be forgiven for thinking a new season had started at the WACA over the last few days.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 19, 2012, 17:34
It's slowly but  surely slipping out of reach as I type, but Afghanistan putting up a more than respectable showing against India.

Edit: and they've just lost another wicket...  :police:
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 19, 2012, 17:37
Flip.  2 in 2 for Yuvraj.  Come on Afghanistan! 

Edit: Have lost 3 in 6 balls.  What have I done?  I've put the mockers on them  :police: :(
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Post by: froome19 on September 19, 2012, 17:46
Great cricket I must admit, not the quality necessarily, but in terms of the fight which Afghanistan have put up today.

Bodes well for the tournament and the matches to come.
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Post by: ram on September 20, 2012, 12:31
England squad for India tour.  No Taylor  :'(
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/582728.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/582728.html)

But he is in the Performance squad -
sh*t against spin. Couldn't face Allan Mullally if he dobbed it at 45 mph.

Don't really GAF about this tournament, really finding it hard to wet myself in excitement. Still watching it as 8 o news is even more depressing than watching India play cricket atm.

Afghanistan are one of the few draws really. Dipped their fingers in butter before the match though.
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Post by: froome19 on September 21, 2012, 17:18

Afghanistan are one of the few draws really. Dipped their fingers in butter before the match though.
Spoke to soon  ;)

Though tbh a great batting perfomance by Wright accentuated their faults.
Comparing the two matches though it seems like India have a long way to improve if they want to beat even a KPless England. I would even go all out and be controversial saying that England are the favourites for the match, merely because our batting is looking very promising.
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Post by: ram on September 21, 2012, 17:32
Underscores just how sh*t the tournament has been.

India have always been crap in this format. Balaji and Pathan
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Post by: sublimit on September 22, 2012, 12:54
Concerning the England test squad,   Compton and Root included is good,  the lack of Briggs is really dumb. 
still hopefully will get himself a game before too long.
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Post by: froome19 on September 22, 2012, 20:33
Concerning the England test squad,   Compton and Root included is good,  the lack of Briggs is really dumb. 
still hopefully will get himself a game before too long.
Very excited at the inclusion of those two players, imho the future of the English test team depends on players like them and tbh specifically them performing in the test team.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 23, 2012, 11:43
Concerning the England test squad,   Compton and Root included is good,  the lack of Briggs is really dumb. 
still hopefully will get himself a game before too long.

I'd agree regarding Briggs - hugely talented youngster, and is undoubtedly the 'future' as far as our spin bowling is concerned.  However, he has played very little first class cricket this year, which I guess has counted against him.  The balance of Hampshire's side has meant that Dawson has played ahead of  him.  Hope he gets a chance to show what he can do in the T20
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Post by: ram on September 23, 2012, 11:53
How on earth does a player as sh*t as Liam Dawson play so many matches? And how grouse are the English women eh, been winning basically everything in 2020s for an era.

In real cricket, Rahane got run out for the first time in FC cricket (54 matches) and Murali VIjay scored the highest individual score in the Irani cup (Ranji champions against the Rest of India), 266. Rajasthan are being fliped in the arse.
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Post by: froome19 on September 23, 2012, 17:45

Though tbh a great batting perfomance by Wright accentuated their faults.
Comparing the two matches though it seems like India have a long way to improve if they want to beat even a KPless England. I would even go all out and be controversial saying that England are the favourites for the match, merely because our batting is looking very promising.
:fp :fp :fp

No excuse, the batting was just awful, truly cringeworthy. Even with KP this team would not have a chance.

And amazing how your perception of a team can change so much from one game to another  :D
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Post by: ram on September 23, 2012, 17:49
The whole performance, particularly the bowling, was crapulent. What Dernbach is doing anywhere near the English squad is a mystery. He's sh*te beyond sh*te. Then there's Bressy lad who can't bowl in OD cricket for since god knows how long.

170 was always too high.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 23, 2012, 18:31
Dernbach did ok against South Africa, but when he comes on at the end, you just set your self for the slower ball and then any reasonable batsman will put you out the ground.  Bresnan was hopeless - 2 spinners at least is a must imho.  I get the horrid feeling that Briggs isn't going to get a game all tournament, and that upsets me  :(  Broad said this afterwards:
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It was worth looking at playing one fewer spinner because we could afford to lose
  Totally the wrong attitude.
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Post by: ram on September 23, 2012, 18:40
He's like what Bravo was when he learnt to bowl the slow ball. Doesn't know when to stop. And the number of wides he bowls. Now I won't be able to read tomorrow's papers.

It was clear that England would lose when Swann bowled four overs for 17.
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Post by: ram on September 25, 2012, 16:49
Crapshack tournament finally has a good match. Aided and abetted by butter fingers galore.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 25, 2012, 17:16
Never mind, nothing to see here.

Irani cup was a proper arse flip.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 26, 2012, 06:23
Rumour doing the rounds that the CB40 is being cancelled. Can't give any definite sources yet.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 26, 2012, 12:35
Six hours before it hits the press. Not quite cancelled, but reviewed
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/counties/9565881/First-class-counties-ready-to-help-England-with-switch-back-to-50-over-one-day-format.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/counties/9565881/First-class-counties-ready-to-help-England-with-switch-back-to-50-over-one-day-format.html)
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Post by: ram on September 27, 2012, 15:49
It only took a couple of weeks to get a watchable 2020. Good match. England will get Gayled

Sandeep Patil is our new chairman of Selectors
http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/patil-appointed-selection-panel-head-amarnath-sacked/article3942121.ece (http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/patil-appointed-selection-panel-head-amarnath-sacked/article3942121.ece)

Surprised tbh, and relieved that we've finally gotten rid of that twit Srikkanth. Also, thank flip we didn't have to see another cricketer dad in Roger Binny take the chairman of selectors. Aniruddha Srikkanth is torturous enough.

Saba Karim for the east, sound choice.

what cost Mohinder Amarnath then? Maybe too outspoken and headline mongering?
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: Zam on September 27, 2012, 16:23
Oh england bowling
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 27, 2012, 17:29
WI bowling has never been utterly convincing and the same can be said for the English batting..

Seems like we have a proper game on today..

Also Lasith Malinga is a once in a lifetime bowler and I think he even deserves to be congratulated with a chapeau.. so chapeau Lasith :tu
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 27, 2012, 17:44
Nah, West Indies have bowlers who can bowl 50mph. Enough to beat England.

As for Malinga, don't rate him. Good for mickey mouse stuff but chickened out of the real cricket. Not great when reqd RR is not in the factor. Vaas is still the Lankan ledge.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 27, 2012, 18:46
What is it, 3 matches, 14 balls and 4 runs for the English opening partnership? Cost them this match, and will again when needed.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 27, 2012, 18:52
Very true..  :)

But what in the world is Morgan doing at No.5...  >:(
He is and has always been England's best Limited overs batsmen and to put him in a position where the game may already be out of our hands  ::)

Also lots of inexperience at the top of the order, probably more so than any other team at the top of the order... so having an experienced batsmen like Morgan up there would help...

And Kieswetter may be pretty talented but he has to go, not consistent enough and you need someone who can get you runs at the top of the order more often than not..

Windies bowlers were clever and they are all useful but when Badree goes for only 20 (or something like that) then you know that something is up. Against a better team as has been shown previously then they could get punished, a side full of Morgans would have decimated this bowling lineup..
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 27, 2012, 18:58
Thank heavens the team spirit is good. Just imagine a team challenging for wins with no team spirit.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 27, 2012, 19:06
Oh yeh forgot to mention...

The captain is pretty pathetic as well.. :fp
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 27, 2012, 19:07
But what in the world is Morgan doing at No.5...  >:(

God only knows and he ain't saying.  To compound matters, Bairstow then batted far too slowly.  Morgan needs to face as many balls as possible for England to get anywhere near winning this tournament, and at the moment, the whole team seams completely out of kilter.  Imbalanced, tactically naive etc. 

Thank heavens the team spirit is good. Just imagine a team challenging for wins with no team spirit.
;D
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 27, 2012, 19:19
Oh yeh forgot to mention...

The captain is pretty pathetic as well.. :fp
Are you questioning the decision to bowl Samit Patel to Chris Gayle in full flow?


Some county transfers news-
Saj Mahmood been released
Yorkshire favourites to sign the headbanded heart throb Jack Brooks
Solanki's off to Surrey
Spriegel to Northants
Northants may also lose Niall O'Brien as Leicester want a keeper to replace that weed Nixon

And in other news, Tasmania have nominated themselves for the shambolic performance of the year as the exceptional quartet of Smiff, Haddin, Copeland and Henriques scored fifty plus. With Haddin and not so Moises scoring hundreds (114,161)
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 03:34
Some county transfers news-
Yorkshire favourites to sign the headbanded heart throb Jack Brooks
Knew this for a few days, but had to post the day before he signed for Yorkshire :fp

As for Key sweater, he's not an international cricketer. Been sh*t for too long to hope anything great will happen. Look sh*te is just that. Eh, why do the South Africans fail you when you need them?
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 04:09
Windies bowlers were clever and they are all useful but when Badree goes for only 20 (or something like that) then you know that something is up. Against a better team as has been shown previously then they could get punished, a side full of Morgans would have decimated this bowling lineup..
You know that you're not good enough when England can score 20 runs off you in 4 overs of spin.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: Zam on September 28, 2012, 05:49
Are you questioning the decision to bowl Samit Patel to Chris Gayle in full flow?


Some county transfers news-
Saj Mahmood been released
Yorkshire favourites to sign the headbanded heart throb Jack Brooks
Solanki's off to Surrey
Spriegel to Northants
Northants may also lose Niall O'Brien as Leicester want a keeper to replace that weed Nixon

And in other news, Tasmania have nominated themselves for the shambolic performance of the year as the exceptional quartet of Smiff, Haddin, Copeland and Henriques scored fifty plus. With Haddin and not so Moises scoring hundreds (114,161)

Didnt know that Vikram was still playing  lol
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 09:53
Also Shakib al Hassan is probably going to Middlesex as an overseas players
And James Harris is going there as well..
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 14:07
Squeaky bum squeaky bum, it's the Gull.
Also Shakib al Hassan is probably going to Middlesex as an overseas players
And James Harris is going there as well..
Shakib good, Harris dobber.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 14:14
Very interesting to see 2 very good batting attacks, struggling like this..
Makes for a brilliant game though

And Gul gone....

What an innings though... :pray
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 14:16
Wouldn't mind kabloemski's views. Must be having a mentalist time. Akmal on strike, not watching it what with the Ryder cup.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 14:21
Wouldn't mind kabloemski's views. Must be having a mentalist time. Akmal on strike, not watching it what with the Ryder cup.

And that is it, game over with an edge...  :(
Was hoping for SA, but Akmal and Gul deserved it. Unlucky Kabloemski, but Pakistan's spin bowlers seem to have given SA a bit of the English jitters, maybe it is contagious considering that the Saffers just came from England?  :P

Now onto the Ryder cup, still trying to get my head around foursomes.. :-[
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 14:24
Foursomes= One ball for each team and alternate shots
Four balls= a ball for each player and better score taken into consideration

And the most basic is you win holes not strokes.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 14:34
Foursomes= One ball for each team and alternate shots
Four balls= a ball for each player and better score taken into consideration
Thanks.. was having an argument with my brother about which one was which...

All cleared up now though and Rose and Poulter go 1 up :woohoo  :win

(will take it to the shoutbox/thread for now)
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 14:36
Nah, fine enough here, is anyone that pedantic in this thread about off topic?
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 14:47
All right...

Seems like there is very little red to be found on the scoreboard at the moment :woohoo

Stricker plays a good shot out of the bunker though, hopefully wont allow the Americans the momentum back.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 14:50
And Woods missed the birdie.. not impressive at all by the World number 2...

Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 14:52
Followed by a beauty by Dufner and a missed put by Rose and things seem to start to even out, cant really take all the back and forth :D
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 14:54
Very early days, but Europe would desperately want to lead early on in the foursome and four balls. The American singles are good.

Good rescue by Westwood Molinari. One of the worst possible bunker lies to have the ball below the feet.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 14:55
Followed by a beauty by Dufner and a missed put by Rose and things seem to start to even out, cant really take all the back and forth :D
Did you watch Celtic Manor? :D
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 14:56
Yes lol...

Explains why it is only every two years :D
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 15:04
Great put by Rose, and Stricker has no answer..

Whilst Woods looks woefully off form, Rose & Poulter should capitalise and go for the jugular, but they do seem to be struggling a tad themselves
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 15:05
Worst memory of the cup was 1999, sh*t for Oli and poor form by the Americans.

Rose does a Poulter putt.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 15:12
Hooks it 50 yards, shanks it 50 yards. Woods having a bad day.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 15:27
Back to the cricket.. and a solid start by the Indians, key is in this tournament not to lose too many wickets early on and so they need to steady the ship and keep on scoring even after they lose a wicket.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: Anthony Moan on September 28, 2012, 15:31
During lunch I was watching Pakistan vs SA...and realize that cricket is really baseball with polo shirts...
I was training with Afghanistan army team but did not know rules...and I don t want to know... ;D
You guys must be nuts watching these sport...
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 15:51
And now the Indians are capitulating...

Who said that T20 is a batsmen's game?  ::)
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 16:28
The tide turning again :fp

Was bound to happen...
A brilliant shot by Garcia up and then down, but Mickelson putts a great putt to win the hole and the momentum has certainly swung.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 16:32
Well, it will swing, the biggest lead has been 3 holes through the whole tournament and i now at 2 holes. Nothing to sh*t oneself over.

During lunch I was watching Pakistan vs SA...and realize that cricket is really baseball with polo shirts...
I was training with Afghanistan army team but did not know rules...and I don t want to know... ;D
You guys must be nuts watching these sport...
You know that you want to know. Don't kid with me.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 28, 2012, 17:33
Aussie openers tearing the Indian bowling attack apart, considering the pitch.
Watson has been unbelievable this tournament, up there in the runs, joint leading wicket taker...

Whilst the Macs finally clean up and equal the scores at one all, a must win that one for Europe in context of the foursomes..

Fourball lineups to be released soon.. as foursomes start to finish..

Meanwhile Woods misses another putt and it is back to 3 up for the Poulter/Rose combination.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 18:06
Already released. Colsaerts and Westwood to play Woods and Stricker

Lawrie Hanson are a pair, love that pair. They're up now.

Poulter not playing in the afternoon but Rose is. Forget the rest, but all players will have played at least one match.

Not sure about Lee and Nicolas, Colsaerts is a huge hitter, and maybe they may have wanted a Donald or someone to dovetail as in a proper round the greens player. Think the Ulster pair is constant.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 28, 2012, 18:18
Simpson and Watson, not a half bad pair that.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 29, 2012, 00:23
Reading that Colsaerts had 8 birdies and an eagle in his match. Didn't watch the afternoon session, even I've got limits. That would be sensational if he did it.

Yank fans are :censoreds. You'd have thought they'd improve after Celtic Manor, but bloody hell there's no semblance of sporting attitude in them.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 29, 2012, 19:45
Seppo fans. Well, what to say, just terrible bogan sh*t from half arsed so called "golf fans". Bogan :censoreds.

USA winning this easily.

Look sh*te with a decent innings tonight.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 29, 2012, 20:26
Well crucial that Europe win this session otherwise big problems and making back 5 points or so going into the final day is nigh on impossible...

I would not put it past them, but would not bet on it... not for any odds..
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 29, 2012, 20:30
USA leading 3 of the fourballs, Europe two up in the other..

But worrying signs, early days in these fourball rounds, but this session will decide whether Europe have what it takes to win..

Oh yeh and Colsaerts :pray
Ilg should be proud... though he still needs to do a service in this session, currently one down..
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 29, 2012, 20:33
And Stuart Broad deserved a chapeau :tu after dropping Dernbach..

Great perfomance by Wright once again, if only he could be more consistent, but at least he gives England the firepower to along with Morgan win matches against most teams..

And Finn continues to prove his talent..
Not impressed at all with Broad tbh..
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: froome19 on September 29, 2012, 22:45
Everything dropping for the Americans and nothing for the Europeans...


That putt by Molinari was destined to go in and yet it somehow managed to stay out..
Simpson having a stormer, and Watson not far behind.. they win 5&4 which means that it is 9-4 and now even the Woods pairing have brought two shots back to make it only 2 down... it was supposed to be Europe's only certainty, but yet :fp

And another putt by Colsaerts which does not drop :police
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 29, 2012, 23:53
Europe have lost this, they weren't going to win before this session and they most certainly aren't now. Seppos just better.

Ilg should be proud... though he still needs to do a service in this session, currently one down..
Eh. He wouldn't know how to spell his name if you wrote it to him.

Having followed him around expectantly for five years, I'd be happier to see him win
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 30, 2012, 14:51
Oli going all in. Strongest first but that's a weak end that Europe have in Westy and Kaymer. Two of my favourites, but not in Ryder cup form now.

Kaymer's basically here because of that 62 in the WGC in Shanghai last year.

Seppos to win half the points available at least tonight. Go as far as saying 8 out of 12
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 30, 2012, 18:15
Nervy start alll round. Seppos not sinking all their putts, Poulter all over the place. Donald looking dodgy too and so too Watson.

Oh and we beat Pakistan
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 30, 2012, 19:37
Francesco got shat on in Celtic manor by a super form Woods in the singles. Carn Francesco, been a far better day than I expected, still can't see Europe winning.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on September 30, 2012, 23:21
Brookline banished. Sensational.
Title: Re: Cricket V2- Hi AG!
Post by: ram on October 01, 2012, 06:04
It's 10 am, I'm hung over and have not had an ounce of alcohol for a week. But would I kill all my sleep for another day like that. Seve would be a happy man.

His prominence in yesterday's efforts of the Europeans shows why his career is always more than just majors. Without him, the European tour would not be what it is today, the player's equivalent of John Jacobs and that's not getting into the Ryder cup.

Chuffed that Kaymer and Westy both won after poor years for them. Poults is a Ryder cup ledge, and no surprise with his putting.

Finally back to the links in 2014 at Gleneagles, and I'd be backing Paul McGinley to be captain there. Second choice be Thomas Bjorn and third Darren Clarke. Hope Chippy's around then, he certainly will make an impact on unprotected courses.

Go back to solitary watching of the sport, now that this event is done.

Cricket, well there's another month to tolerate this nonsense 2020 stuff. When will they learn the limits.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: ram on October 01, 2012, 07:55
Pakistan beat India in a WC match. Women's match. Must've been a terrible performance to lose to them.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: Archieboy on October 01, 2012, 08:08
Excellent result, St Sevvy must be well pleased with last nights showing, nice to see the sceptics put in their place,

"GET IN THE HOLE",  what a bunch of mugs hahaha..
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: ram on October 01, 2012, 08:37
Topped when some random shouted Get in the water during a McIlroy approach shot.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: sublimit on October 01, 2012, 12:50
Ian Poulter was the US trailer trash fans worst nightmare the last 3 days,  he took those folks players apart.   :win
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: ram on October 01, 2012, 13:02
Looking at the order of play, and with the superpower known as hindsight, I do wonder if Love made an error by starting off strong when the Europeans had to field a strong team early to survive.

What would've happened if it were Donald vs Stricker but Kaymer vs Watson or Bradley. I love Kaymer, but he's nowhere near top form.

Another thing that there were a few whinges about was the hole locations being to the right as opposed to the left which would've favoured the US team. Just play the holes on offer, it was a monumental choke by them and particularly on the 17th.

And if anyone's into the rest, one of the best tournaments of the year on Thursday. Alfred Dunhill links, played on Kingsbarnes, Carnoustie and St Andrews. There's a pro am start before a proper finish, Phelps and Pistorius taking part and Vaughan will be there too most likely with Beefy.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: sublimit on October 01, 2012, 15:04
 If I was Davis I would of put the best players mid way or later on,  maybe avoiding Poulter  Mclroy  Donald. But the US still had solid experienced players late on though so i dunno.       Woods going off last didn't work it seems.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: ram on October 01, 2012, 15:11
Stricker wasn't his best at all. No points through the tourney. Woods was poor apart from that match vs Colsaerts. But Love could not have expected to lose the first five matches, especially when it's usually the US who dominate this format.

Pointless musings only.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: sublimit on October 01, 2012, 15:21
Woods 1/2 point from 4 counted so much,  probably had the hump because he wasn't getting paid and couldn't stand his colleagues as per usual. 

I still reckon Mikelson is the player the Euros fear the most because he can putt and play ridiculous shots at times.       Always tough to play against whereas Woods always looks lost in Ryder cup.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: ram on October 01, 2012, 15:26
Not much doubt there, especially in the foursomes and fourballs. Woods' singles record is pretty decent. Phil is a magician, obviously not Seve level, with the wedges and shorter clubs.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: just some guy on October 02, 2012, 12:38
and some how I am watching the cricket  :P
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: ram on October 02, 2012, 15:33
No, you're not. You're watching 2020.

Watch more of it, I like to see twitto fail
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: froome19 on October 02, 2012, 19:58
Been away for a while... but would like to hijack the thread for a last time to pay homage to the European Ryder cup Team:

:pray  :pray :pray
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 03, 2012, 08:28
Hijack? It's been golf for the past five days. And then come the Links championships, which Lara, Warnie, Steve Waugh and Beefy will all be playing. So, it's perfectly reasonable to be golf again over the week.
Title: Re: Cricket- somehow the home of the Ryder cup on VR
Post by: sublimit on October 03, 2012, 11:25
No, you're not. You're watching 2020.

Watch more of it, I like to see twitto fail

I'd rather watch Kepler Wessels bat for 7 hours than watch 20-20.  All the games merge into one and are instantly forgettable.

Instant gratification for the kids but ultimately completely pointless.


Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 03, 2012, 11:28
Goodness me, that's nigh on masochism. For all the twits that the Saffas have produced, Kepler's got to be the worst. Even South Africans can't stand him.

But worry not, Kragg Brathwaite has the ability to outdo Phil Tufnell's duck without blinking.

Agree though, dour stuff can be intriguing, sixes every ball aren't so.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 03, 2012, 16:34
The ECB would've  had to grovel to him equally as much considering how crapulent with the bat England are without KP. They stood no chance here without him.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 03, 2012, 16:42
Only other world cup in 2015 is the Rugby world cup.

Flower seems to have lost a lot of his meticulous planning qualities in recent times. 2015 is too long, that's Fletcher long.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: froome19 on October 03, 2012, 16:46
Funny when you realise how organisations who look and seem in control sometimes really are not all that powerful as they  may seem.

Unfortunately waiting for the KP moment in cycling to humble the UCI, has not come yet..
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 03, 2012, 16:49
Bit of a push to call the ECB as the UCI. All said, KP brought it upon himself. He got the harsh end, well harsh compared to Swann and Broad, but he deserved it. It wasn't just him that did.

Everyone seemed a bunch of :censoreds fumbling along, just that even they're better than clueless :censoreds. This tournament was as poorly planned as the 2007 2020 World cup, and Philip flipping Schofield was in that team.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: froome19 on October 03, 2012, 16:54
True..

If they had not got lucky with Wright coming into form it would have been somehow worse than it has been, but the whole build up was rubbish. Seemed like they were focusing too much on SA series and when that went wrong...

True not much to compare UCI to ECB, but i think they do have some aspects which do share some resemblances
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 03, 2012, 16:59
Again, I'd take a test series win over the Jaarpies any day over a 2020 World cup. It was just the cluelessness of the team. What's the point of changing a team which for once has looked competitive in the tournament and replace it with messiah Dernbach.

Every organisation share resemblances with the UCI, not every organisation puts their weight behind an accused. Still don't see the comparison, tbh. Now if the ICC protects Tendulkar from match fixing claims, then it's comparable. Never happened, never named, never implicated.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 03, 2012, 20:47
Been out the loop for a few days, but boom, Europe, get in!  That was awesome.

Glad I'm not in alone in this entire T20 passing me by - really couldn't care less about it at all.  ICC take note. 

As for KP, thank heavens because much as I find him rather irritating, I have the nagging feeling that England's middle order really needs him.  As Ram said, Flower's careful planning seems to have rather gone awry - particularly in terms of developing strength in depth.  I don't really want any of Bopara, Morgan, Bairstow (not test players) or Root (too young and unproven atm) in the team.  Compton I can't make my mind up on - yes he had a great season, but is he the next best batsman on the county circuit, I don't know.  Consequently, KP at four, provided he's 're-integrated' successfully into the team, would be just marvellous.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 04, 2012, 01:11
Ed Smith had a top season too.

Bairstow needs time, if he's given half as many chances as Bopara got, he'd have fifty caps. He scored a 90 odd against South Africa, when was the last time Flopara got near 30?
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 04, 2012, 15:21
Branden Grace, nuff said. flipping 60 at Kingsbarns, 4 wins this year in the European and Sunshine tour, he's a hot player.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 05, 2012, 11:58
Be a good Australia Windian prelude with Australia and Windies playing. Good match, but Stephanie Taylor's gone and female Broad Elyse Perry is on fire.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 05, 2012, 12:39
Even though I've never seen her bowl, I'm  going to go out on a limb and say that this Perry girl >>>>>>>>>> Wee Stuey.  Aggers compared her action to McGrath - accurate assessment?   
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 05, 2012, 13:58
She looks like Stuart Broad, which does not say anything about her masculine appearance, more about Broad.

She's the goods, and a football player too. No comparisons of women's quicks to men's though. No surprise final there.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 05, 2012, 15:53
Bravo teeing off.  Gayle teeing off.  Pollard about to tee off.  Who'd be an Australian bowler?
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 05, 2012, 16:07
Doherty bowling the final over to Gayle.  This can only end badly for Xavier. 
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: froome19 on October 05, 2012, 16:10
Sure it is hard to counter the Windies when they are playing like that...
But full on tosses ::) :fp

Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: froome19 on October 05, 2012, 16:10
Good call DOTP...

25 of the over and considering the batsmen in, I dont get why they bowled spin..
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 05, 2012, 16:11
Sky Sports Cricket ‏@SkyCricket
Doherty to blow the last #brave

Sagacity, he blows.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 05, 2012, 16:17
Somewhat amazingly (I think), the Aussies managed to restrict Gayle to facing only 41 balls, despite him batting for the full 20 overs.   Imagine what he could have done if he'd faced even another 10 or 15?  Still, got an absolute mountain to climb to win this one.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 05, 2012, 16:23
Poor fellow Gayle, from being squeezed in his hotel room by some women to being squeezed by male physio on the pitch.

How the mighty fall
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: froome19 on October 05, 2012, 16:27
Warner goes and the order just gets taller.

The Aussies have the firepower, but they cant lost wickets and if Watson goes their chances get halved imo
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 05, 2012, 16:32
One more wicket and the tail starts.

twitto goes and Australia are out

Post Merge: November 09, 2012, 14:59
In more exciting news, a dog interrupted Paul Casey's round at Kingsbarns.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 05, 2012, 16:43
One more wicket and the tail starts.

twitto goes and Australia are out

Well, he's gone.  What's the record margin for defeat in a T20?
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 05, 2012, 18:37
No idea, but I'm going to say Sri Lanka vs Kenya, who're right rubbish now. Sri Lanka scored 260 in the 2007 2020 World cup.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 06, 2012, 11:17
How grouse is that. Largest win in 2020s, 172 runs for Sri Lanka against Kenya.

Charlotte Edwards, can't not like her. Top lass.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 09:16
How aptly named is the 2020 Champions league?
Karbonn CLiT20
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 09:32
England winning the toss and bowling. Should be a grouse match.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 12:26
Grouse for Australia, England well outplayed so far.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 13:02
Well played Australia. First 6 overs in each innings won it.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 15:19
Pathetic crap to round off a pathetic tournament. WTF are the Windians doing? 70 is not a defendable target.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: froome19 on October 07, 2012, 15:24
Indeed rather disappointing.. always the risk with the Windies imo, if their top guns under perform, which is not all that rare, they can struggle badly.

Though you have to give credit where credit is due..

And just as I say that Samuels dispatches Malinga for two sixes :D
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 15:28
Though you have to give credit where credit is due..
Aye, I'll praise the genetic engineer who inseminated Kieswetter genes into all of West Indies. Sri Lanka have not been nearly as special as the scorecard suggests.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 17:02
Chok... choke, I'm choking
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: froome19 on October 07, 2012, 17:06
Samuels seemed to have played his innings spot on and it may just have won his team the tournament..
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: froome19 on October 07, 2012, 17:07
Today could be said to have been the battle of the spinners...
Mendis V Narine..
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 17:11
Not really, Mendis was good tonight and Narine started his spell in the 13th over. Mendis easily won that.

It's about the choke now.

Another choking run out. Help them
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 17:20
Pathetic crap to round off a pathetic tournament. WTF are the Windians doing? 70 is not a defendable a match winning target.
Still true.

When does Mahela Majeed make an appearance?

Only negative for WIndies was that Kieswetter took over their top order.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 17:27
Greatest comeback in 2020s on the cards. Sri Lanka win, it's the greatest come back. WIndies win, it's the greatest come back. It's just the greatest come back.

Brilliant stupidity from third man

Only negative for WIndies was that Kieswetter took over their top order.
And Jade Dernbach taking over Rampaul
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 17:42
Well played Windians, but Lanka swallowed a butt plug.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: Zam on October 07, 2012, 17:45
Won it then lost the match...pathetic waste.
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 07, 2012, 17:53
Aye, and thank flip it's finished. NOw only one more month of the Clit20 to tolerate
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 08, 2012, 06:11
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2214302/South-Africa-threaten-ECB-legal-action-claims-Kevin-Pietersen-provoked-send-texts.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2214302/South-Africa-threaten-ECB-legal-action-claims-Kevin-Pietersen-provoked-send-texts.html)

Oh ECB. Whatever happens, be it favourable to ECB or CSA, the only certainty is-
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll91/patmac7519/smiley-sh*t-hits-the-fan.gif)
Title: Re: Cricket- golf with a sprinkling of pyjama stuff as it stands
Post by: ram on October 09, 2012, 06:56
http://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/cricket/caught-in-india-tv-sting-sri-lankan-umpire-sagara-gallage-6612.html (http://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/cricket/caught-in-india-tv-sting-sri-lankan-umpire-sagara-gallage-6612.html)

They include Nadeem Ghauri in this list. Ghauri is an international umpire, not on the ICC panel now.

Too many flipping Premier leagues.
Title: Re: Cricket- vulva next vs the mighty Yorkshire
Post by: ram on October 09, 2012, 14:28
Clitoris20 started today, and what a flipping joke this tourney is. Only good thing about it is Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Cricket- vulva next vs the mighty Yorkshire
Post by: ram on October 09, 2012, 15:36
Vulva fliped. Yorkshire Diggers win
Title: Re: Cricket- vulva next vs the mighty Yorkshire
Post by: ram on October 10, 2012, 11:41
Kevin Curran passed away while jogging.

The Mash Eagles', of whom Curran was coach, match versus the Mountaineers has been postponed.

Curran was 53.

His finest moment in international cricket came in a memorable match, though in a losing cause. He tooke 3 wickets and reduced India to 5/17 before Kapil scored 175 to help India to some 260 odd score before Curran scored some 70 runs to bring the Zim team to within 40 runs of the Indian total.

He coached Namibia and Zimbabwe in international cricket.
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: ram on October 10, 2012, 12:40
And which responsible parent will name their kid M Bates?
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: ram on October 10, 2012, 13:47
Humpsh*te
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: ram on October 10, 2012, 15:10
Humpsh*te
seconded, sh*te beyond sh*te. Cheers Dancing.
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: sublimit on October 10, 2012, 19:11
humped by the sheep botherers.   now Hampshire are out can we go back to talking golf?   :-[
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: ram on October 10, 2012, 19:36
No worries about talking golf at all. Espesh Rory's choke twice over the past two days (or Schwartzel's batsh*t finish today).

But the Yorkshire diggers won. Mighty. Ballance, Rashid, great. Lyth, looks like a flipping bald dick, and bats like one too.
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: ram on October 10, 2012, 19:52
Shahzad will be back in England reckoning after joining Notts
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 10, 2012, 21:23
seconded, sh*te beyond sh*te. Cheers Dancing.
You're welcome  ;) :'(

Two players called M.D. Bates in the same match has got to be some sort of record or something surely?
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: ram on October 11, 2012, 02:13
Record for the worst parent for choosing names?

Seeing as it could be said to be a state/county match, there's no way to ascertain the possibility of 2 M Bates being unique.
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: sublimit on October 12, 2012, 18:54
Mike Hunt.      Of the MCC groundstaff.   ;D

Ah OK he calls himself Mick usually. 

Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: ram on October 13, 2012, 05:46
Better than Bernt Haas the footballer
Title: Re: Cricket- Kevin Curran 1959-2012
Post by: ram on October 27, 2012, 18:01
Mike Hunt.      Of the MCC groundstaff.   ;D

Ah OK he calls himself Mick usually. 


Jebus Subs, a guy on a cricket forum I frequent has the same pic.

Anyway, I see Dan Brettig and George Dobbell whinging about chucking. Dobbell even claiming that Lufbru was a better chuck testing place than WA. Jenny Gunn's suspect action suggests it's all the same.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pom
Post by: ram on October 30, 2012, 08:21
India A 6/198

No spinner in the India A side. Just some slow bowlers and there were rule changes yesterday which even approved Day night tests. Now to find the balls to do that, literally.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pom
Post by: ram on October 30, 2012, 09:29
6/238 and Pathan proving why a dead mouse is a better batsman than Suresh Raina.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 30, 2012, 11:07
India A 6/198

No spinner in the India A side. Just some slow bowlers and there were rule changes yesterday which even approved Day night tests. Now to find the balls to do that, literally.

What do you think about the new ruling? Ball issues, visibility?
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 30, 2012, 11:19
Dew...
The visibility issue is not the one we think is the major one.

Supersport did a short feature on this last year. There are 3 types of balls. One is the regular red leather (natural colour). The other two are pink and orange. In the cameras though, it is all black and white and the orange and pink were not as easy to pick in natural light. Also, ball life is an issue. My main though is, would that lead to a standardisation of balls around the world? Like the white balls are all kookaburras. Dukes and SG would be a sore miss if so.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 30, 2012, 11:25
Oh, I see. I am familiar with the kookaburra, not the others, will have to brush up on my ball skills. You don't happen to have that Supersport link lying around somewhere.. Guess Google will probably work fine too.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 30, 2012, 11:26
Nope, won't be on the internet most likely. It was an in match  time filler during bad light.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 30, 2012, 11:35
Ok.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 31, 2012, 07:17
Trott is out - he stayed back to an off-break from Raina, and is bowled. Which means only one thing.
:win

That's to Raina, not Ashwin.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:26
What cricket is this?
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:26
I like Raina..
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 31, 2012, 07:29
You're alone in liking him. England vs India A

KP out to Yuvraj ::)
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Archieboy on October 31, 2012, 07:29
India A V England XI
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 31, 2012, 07:35
Oh dear, the Belly's gone to Yuvraj too. 4/133. Ojha and Ashwin to play the first test and it'll be a raging turner now.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:42
I'm confoozed - sorry - that's the cricket I was asking about last week - but was supposed to be mid-Nov?
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:42
I REALLY like Juvraj :-)
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:44
Will that livestream link you posted show this? Probably won't be viable for mobile - cellular data's been costing me a fortune already.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:45
Missing the uncapped ADSL (:
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:47
I'm being daft, that was something else, I'll put a cork in it.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 31, 2012, 07:47
Raina and Yuvraj? Next I'll hear you like Gambhir :-X

This is a tour match, tests start later on and the link will not work unless there's a Sheffield shield match that's not being telecast on fox.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:50
Ok, cool, thought I was losing it - I read that Eng was playing India - then only feedback was mid-Nov - the test v tour thing scuppered me.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 07:50
Hey! I like them ALL!
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 31, 2012, 08:43
Kohli said the other day that it is perfectly legitimate of India to prepare raging turners - they got shafted on green tops in England and Australia, and I agree with him.  Home side should have the right to play to their strengths (within reason though.  We still want a game of cricket that lasts at least 4 days).

Re different coloured balls, I have played with pink balls quite a bit and they are miles better than white imho, which lose their hardness and colour very easily. However, I have also used about 4 different types of pink ball, so there is no consensus on which type to go for.  Kookaburra pink was the best in my view, and seemed to keep its hardness and shape the best.  Great fun to play with though - swings a mile and goes like a rocket off the bat  :) 
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 31, 2012, 08:49
And because little things like this interest me, looks like Trotty has changed his kit sponsor.

Anywho, Ram, who in your view should bat at 6 for India in the first test?  Yuvraj, Raina, Tiwary, A. N. Other?

Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 31, 2012, 08:49
Kohli said the other day that it is perfectly legitimate of India to prepare raging turners - they got shafted on green tops in England and Australia, and I agree with him.  Home side should have the right to play to their strengths (within reason though.  We still want a game of cricket that lasts at least 4 days).

Re different coloured balls, I have played with pink balls quite a bit and they are miles better than white imho, which lose their hardness and colour very easily. However, I have also used about 4 different types of pink ball, so there is no consensus on which type to go for.  Kookaburra pink was the best in my view, and seemed to keep its hardness and shape the best.  Great fun to play with though - swings a mile and goes like a rocket off the bat  :) 
Kohli is a whinging twit. Yeah, Cook scored 294 and Clarke a 300 on a greentop. Belly scored any run on a greentop. Somerset outshone India at the Taunton greentop and Swann took nine wickets on an oval greentop.

Have your turning pitches, but Kohli shouldn't be a flipping fairy about a proper arse flipping.

Cheers Dances, never played with the pink. Heck, only played with a white ball once (hated it).
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 31, 2012, 08:51
And because little things like this interest me, looks like Trotty has changed his kit sponsor.

Anywho, Ram, who in your view should bat at 6 for India in the first test?  Yuvraj, Raina, Tiwary, A. N. Other?
Anyone but Raina or Yuvraj. Both inept sh*tmunchers who've robbed deserving bats like Badrinath their chance. Now, it has to be Tiwari or maybe Badri (no Tamil bias at all) or Rahane if they stick with the ineptitude called Gambhir up top.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 09:00

Re different coloured balls, I have played with pink balls quite a bit and they are miles better than white imho, which lose their hardness and colour very easily. However, I have also used about 4 different types of pink ball, so there is no consensus on which type to go for.  Kookaburra pink was the best in my view, and seemed to keep its hardness and shape the best.  Great fun to play with though - swings a mile and goes like a rocket off the bat  :)

Ah, cool :-)
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on October 31, 2012, 09:18
India A V England XI

Thanks Archieb, only saw this now, still getting used to forum & app.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 31, 2012, 14:35
Dances, I know you follow TMS, but I think the non paying slackers are taking it a bit far when they criticise test match sofa. It's not as if the beeb are exactly the most open of pockets to have a strop about the BCCI demanding 50k. Sky is another issue

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6hIslHCMAAf951.jpg)
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: sublimit on October 31, 2012, 14:58
TMS is the only decent thing on Radio 4 and I hope it long continues. 
It probably carries that station for the other mediocre stuff that one can find there.



Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on October 31, 2012, 15:06
No doubt, it's good. But this is a strop about the change in broadcast rights terms since BCCI took over the production rights (not telecast) and they're asking 50k (not 500k which was demanded of Sky) from the beeb. Don't understand what Sky and BBC's legal teams were doing being unaware of such basic terms.

Test match sofa are a just a cricket loving few slackers taking time off and giving some fun commentary on England matches and some other major tests nowadays. Really can't see what CMJ's banging on about in the second paragraph.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 01, 2012, 15:42
Not good by England's batting. That was just the most toothless Indian bowling attack possible. No spinner, no fast bowler. Just some dobbers and pie chuckers, and one of them got a five for. Fat Sam locked in number 6, and Ashwin and Ojha will be a different proposition. Mind, we have Gambhir.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 02, 2012, 12:43
Oh dear Aggers. TMS vs TMS, the place where venerated commentators act like children.

I'll be going to the first Ranji match that Navi Mumbai will be hosting around the turn of the year. Should be one of fifty there, over four days. Mumbai vs Gujarat. Hopefully Rahane will play. My last Ranji match, Tamil Nadu got arse fliped.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: froome19 on November 02, 2012, 14:04
Btw can someone tell Samit Patel he can't bat ::)
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 02, 2012, 14:06
Sorry, I won't tell Samit he's cant fat.


That was as sh*t a bowling attack as possible btw,
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 03, 2012, 11:15
The Belly's forgotten how to score runs against a club team.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 05, 2012, 06:45
Seems like Root could possibly usurp Compton as opener. Compton's been gash, barely scored a run and isn't comfortable against Mumbai A. Speaking of Mumbai A, Javed Khan's father passed away during the course of the match. He came back the next day to take a wicket.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 05, 2012, 06:59
Javed Khan's father passed away during the course of the match. He came back the next day to take a wicket.

Wow. Respect.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on November 05, 2012, 09:49
So I recon SA sould beat OZ by an innings every test coming up


Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: froome19 on November 05, 2012, 09:54
Think on home turf, the Aussies may just put up half a fight..
But SA should dominate tbh..
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 05, 2012, 09:56
So I recon SA sould beat OZ by an innings every test coming up



Bend over, pull your pants down and give them some protection (and I don't mean a flipping box).
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on November 05, 2012, 10:01
Cowan
warner
quiney
ponting
clarke
hussey
wade
siddle
Pattinson
Hilfenhaus
lyon

verse

a team that bats down to 7
the 3 best fast bowlers in the world at the moment
and a fairly average spinner

will be a blood bath
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 05, 2012, 10:04
Lyon's back to bowling like a club cricketer. Done sweet flip all this season.

And Morkel's not one of the 3 best quicks atm.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on November 05, 2012, 10:08
Lyon's back to bowling like a club cricketer. Done sweet flip all this season.

And Morkel's not one of the 3 best quicks atm.

really who is 3rd then

plus I think you mean groundsman not Club Cricketer  ;D

the only way I see brisbane going 4 innings is if Clarke wins the toss puts SA in and sids, JP and brickey do the job on the SA roll them for less than 250 
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 05, 2012, 10:11
really who is 3rd then

plus I think you mean groundsman not Club Cricketer  ;D

the only way I see brisbane going 4 innings is if Clarke wins the toss puts SA in and sids, JP and brickey do the job on the SA roll them for less than 250 
If he were a real groundsman, he'd have left SACAbahn a long time ago ;)

Jimmy's had just one bad series. Unlike Swann who's been a sh*tehole for a year or two now. Milf will be good, but has he played any FC cricket this season (losing to SA is not FC cricket, might as well lose to Loughborough university).
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 05, 2012, 14:01
"@SportswaveAndre: India ignore Raina for the first two Tests - http://t.co/X6oIoBRp"

"Yuvraj Singh is in the squad, while the selectors have ignored Suresh Raina.

They have found a spot for Harbhajan Singh.

Also picked are Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Cheteshwar Pujara, Sachin Tendulkar, Virat Kohli, Ajinkya Rahane, Ravi Ashwin, Pragyan Ojha, Murali Vijay, Zaheer Khan, Umesh Yadav and Ishant Sharma.

The first of four Tests will start in Ahmedabad on 15 November."
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 05, 2012, 14:18
Saw that in the morning, not worth mentioning except for its sh*tness (well no, I discussed it elsewhere).

Harbhajan has done flip all in forever.
Vijay has been picked on the basis of one Duleep Trophy innings on a flat pitch against powder puff.
Yuvraj is just unthinkably useless even for a useless player
And Zaheer's flipping injured

At least Raina's right fliped off from the face of the squad. What a flipping sh*tpiece and a waste of time he was.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on November 05, 2012, 14:20
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/arthur-caught-in-slips-by-steyn-20121105-28u7q.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/arthur-caught-in-slips-by-steyn-20121105-28u7q.html)
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 05, 2012, 15:05
He might want to text that.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 05, 2012, 15:27
Saw that in the morning, not worth mentioning except for its sh*tness (well no, I discussed it elsewhere).

Oops, sorry, where'd you post it? I did try to see if it was elsewhere (:

As for the sh*tness, who'd you pick, Ram?

Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 05, 2012, 15:34
Not on velorooms, different forum.

Who to pick?
Don't pick Bhajji. Don't pick Yuvraj. Don't even think for one second about that lump of lard Raina.

Tiwari, Rahane and Badri can fight it out for number 6. If there's no suitable third spinner, don't pick a third spinner.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 05, 2012, 15:41
that lump of lard Raina.

:-D Ok cool, looks like I've got to brush up on my Indy cricket, seems I only know the poster boys.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 06, 2012, 01:13
sh*tness

They must be missing Gary.. :-)
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 06, 2012, 02:32
Last I checked, he scored 0 runs and took 0 wickets for India.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 06, 2012, 06:41
Last I checked, he scored 0 runs and took 0 wickets for India.

Yeah lame little joke, hey? Couldn't help myself :-D
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 06, 2012, 07:09
Deffo be cheering for India, not ze Brits, that's for sure!
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Archieboy on November 06, 2012, 07:30
Compton needed that 64.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 06, 2012, 07:53
Compton needed that 64.

Yeah, I saw it was between him and Root for opening?
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 06, 2012, 07:56
Man, am I looking forward to watching that cricket, and will still be on hols for it, so it's gonna be epic :-) If the blazing Stellenbosch Summer is already in full swing then I'll be sitting in the plastic pool on the stoep shouting at the TV :-D
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 06, 2012, 08:32
That's if it will be broadcast here.. hope so!
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 06, 2012, 13:55
Compton needed that 64.
Aye, now I'm wondering if Bell will open in the last warm up. That was a pee poor club attack that they played in Mumbai. The Ginger minger (his tash :fp ) really has done a lot to warrant his inclusion.
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Post by: just some guy on November 06, 2012, 14:05
''We've seen in the past I've got some overs out of Michael Hussey. Rob Quiney will be no different,'' Clarke added, on a more serious note. ''And if there's a bit of spin I can bowl as well. We've still got the options there. Whether you've got an all-rounder in your team or not, you always rely on your main four bowlers and then you use your part-timers as you see fit. Hopefully our front-line bowlers can do the job. But if there's a role for a part-timer to play, they'll certainly get that opportunity.''
Quiney is self-deprecating about his bowling.
''If I get thrown the ball I would love to get an international scalp, but I highly doubt it. We've got some pretty good bowlers in our team, so I would have thought not. I'm just making sure I get my bowling loads up and if that rare case does happen, I'm semi-prepared at least,'' Quiney said.
''I used to shape it away a bit but I've lost it for some reason. They come back in …''


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/clarke-in-no-hurry-to-take-in-watson-20121106-28w53.html#ixzz2BS2tpc6w (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/clarke-in-no-hurry-to-take-in-watson-20121106-28w53.html#ixzz2BS2tpc6w)




 :fp
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Post by: ram on November 06, 2012, 14:13
And risk twitto? Better off waiting for him.
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Post by: froome19 on November 06, 2012, 19:05
Aye, now I'm wondering if Bell will open in the last warm up. That was a pee poor club attack that they played in Mumbai. The Ginger minger (his tash :fp ) really has done a lot to warrant his inclusion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20225101 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20225101)

Seems will be one or the other of those two.. my bet is on Compton

Also heard that Bell may be going home for 2nd test, if he has a baby.. not the most reliable source though.
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Post by: froome19 on November 06, 2012, 19:06
Tbh I rate Clarke's spin..
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Post by: froome19 on November 06, 2012, 19:07
Cowan
warner
quiney
ponting
clarke
hussey
wade
siddle
Pattinson
Hilfenhaus
lyon

verse

a team that bats down to 7
the 3 best fast bowlers in the world at the moment
and a fairly average spinner

will be a blood bath
Sorry forgot Watson was out  :fp  :)
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Post by: froome19 on November 06, 2012, 19:12
Cowan
warner
quiney
ponting
clarke
hussey
wade
siddle
Pattinson
Hilfenhaus
lyon

verse

a team that bats down to 7
the 3 best fast bowlers in the world at the moment
and a fairly average spinner

will be a blood bath
Though strangely the poll results do seem to disagree  :fp
Though at least they have the good grace to indicate SA are favourites..



What will be the result of the Australia-South Africa Test series?

South Africa 3-0
14%
Australia 3-0
5%
South Africa 2-1
22%
Australia 2-1
23%
South Africa 2-0
11%
Australia 2-0
4%
South Africa 1-0
2%
Australia 1-0
1%
Drawn series 0-0
0%
Drawn series 1-1
18%
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on November 09, 2012, 08:26
well day 1 SA v OZ

and a classic day where Quiney brought the dibby dobber back into world Cricket  unplayable it seems from the stats  ;D

Lyon gets a wicket and according to what I read bounce and turn but not much of a bowl RR might have had something to do with it.

The Beard who bats and the bricksh*t house should be set to take SA to 2 / 596 by the end of play tomorrow

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Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 08:36
Sids gets a wicket of a no ball.

Lyon gets a wicket on the tonk.

South Africa to win by eighteen wickets again

I'm heading off to the Sahara Stadium in Pune to watch its first FC match on Sunday, and hopefully Monday too. Will look to attend the second test against England (at least a day, if not 3) and will then head off to Navi Mumbai to watch the first Ranji match there.
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Post by: just some guy on November 09, 2012, 08:40
Nice
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 08:43
Aye, good times.
Tbh I rate Clarke's spin..
I rate it too, as part time sh*te. No way his back holds up or that he's good enough.
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Post by: lancasterke on November 09, 2012, 09:18
SA are a seriously good team.

really good batting line up and great pace bowling.

in the medium term it'll be interesting to see how SA cope with Kallis retiring. there's a natural balance to a team who have a truly great batsman who is also a more than capable 5th bowler (he's probably good enough to be 4th in a 4 man attack)

Aus look like they could be in for a tough time
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Post by: just some guy on November 09, 2012, 09:20
JP was doing some drills or something after watching the days play

rolled his ankle off to Hospital

no runners allowed and was meant to be the 1st spinner used , not that they will need him ofc 

Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 09:26
Some drills translates as playing football.

SA are a seriously good team.

really good batting line up and great pace bowling.

in the medium term it'll be interesting to see how SA cope with Kallis retiring. there's a natural balance to a team who have a truly great batsman who is also a more than capable 5th bowler (he's probably good enough to be 4th in a 4 man attack)

Aus look like they could be in for a tough time
A fitter England may have been a good series against SA. Jimmy, Broad and Bresnan all seem to have lost a yard of pace and Swann's been crap for around a year or two now.

In the longer term, one lock in seems to be Quinton De Kock.

And this isn't even their best fast bowling line up. Kleinveldt would be replaced by de Lange when fit.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Arb on November 09, 2012, 09:27
Aye, good times.I rate it too, as part time sh*te. No way his back holds up or that he's good enough.

Clarke, Katich, North. Part time sh*te > "genuine" (note: CL White was selected as "genuine").

rofl @ Quiney bowling, Pup is trolling, surely?

If the weather holds out I see RSA winning by an innings inside 4 days.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 09:29
Clarke, Katich, North. Part time sh*te > "genuine" (note: CL White was selected as "genuine").

rofl @ Quiney bowling, Pup is trolling, surely?

If the weather holds out I see RSA winning by an innings inside 4 days.
Blonde chubby Victorian leggie, what could go wrong there?

Quiney was as effective as Lyon today.
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Post by: Arb on November 09, 2012, 09:32
and with the bat he will be as effective as Brad Haddin.

The perfect player.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 09:36
Well, they couldn't select the sh*t Marcus (not the good Tres) and they couldn't call up Swamps (who're sh*te), for partying. The only others would be Doolan or maybe Burns. Not the worst pick.

And thank flip they didn't go back to Phil Blew or Callum Ferguson.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Arb on November 09, 2012, 11:13
Yeh I probably would have gone Doolan lol. Don't forget Fatty, got a better career average than all of them.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 11:48
Mark Boucher's 2 cents "@City_Press: Clarke vs Philander Test showdown: http://t.co/7bmu7dyc”
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 11:56
Word is JP needs an op, torn ligaments.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 12:50
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2230468/JP-Duminy-ruptures-achilles-tendon-South-Africa-control-Test-Brisbane.html
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 12:52
South Africa could replace him if Clarke gives his consent.

Boucher is better suited to keeping. Fluff piece.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 12:53
South Africa could replace him if Clarke gives his consent.

Seriously, is that how it works?
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Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 12:55
Boucher is better suited to keeping. Fluff piece.

:-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 12:55
Would he say yes? Actually, would SA ask?
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 12:57
Boucher is better suited to keeping. Fluff piece.

Poor Mark, making wine with JK is clearly not enough to keep him occupied.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 13:03
Just got this from an umpire contact-

No member of the playing eleven can be changed after nomination without the consent of the opposing captain.

I remember one similarish situation where Prior injured himself during warm up in a meaningless ODI against Australia in 2009 and Bruce French was allowed by Ponting to stand in as back up keeper till Steve Davies arrived at the ground. England batted first.

Could happen, but the onus is not on Clarke to accept it. Strauss accepted Manou's call up into the team when Haddin got injured post the toss.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 13:07
I guess it would be 'gentlemanly' for him to do it? I don't know if I would ask though, if I was SA.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 13:13
Spirit of cricket is a wishy washy concept. Stick to the letter of the laws, and much more often than not you're upholding the spirit of the sport.

If the question is asked, I'd think that Clarke would, he's one of them wishy washy types.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 13:21
Spirit of cricket is a wishy washy concept. Stick to the letter of the laws, and much more often than not you're upholding the spirit of the sport.

Ok, I see, thanks.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on November 09, 2012, 13:45
Clarke will ask the image consults what will look the best and do that.

w***er.

But yes I think there will be a replacement

Come in spinner anyone
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Arb on November 09, 2012, 13:50
Yeh, if they pick a batsman of similar quality it will have to be a bowler.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: froome19 on November 09, 2012, 13:52
England batting is in surprisingly good nick, under pressure though they still may very well capitulate. This Tour could have been the crowning of their world dominance by conquering the subcontinent. Instead it has now ended up as a battle to regain their confidence ahead of the Ashes.

Without Swann this particular game probably won't get anywhere though, England do not have a lethal enough spin attack to make significant inroads, though it seems like Compton now has his place most likely guaranteed. Though what would I give in order to see all England's batsmen scoring runs when it actually matters ::) Also a shame Meaker has not had an impact he could be a very useful addition to England's arsenal if called upon.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 13:54
Clarke will ask the image consults what will look the best and do that.

It's all biz? No idea who they'd choose. I feel sorry for JP - really k*k to sit out 6 months.
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Post by: froome19 on November 09, 2012, 13:55
Indeed not a good way to start a series like that.. better if Clarke keeps on the right side of the SA team.

Though it will be a dent to SA if he refuses and what with all these rumours about the extent the Aussies are going to, to get under SA's skin this may actually be an opportunity handed to them on a plate.

Spirit of cricket.. just ask Paul Collingwood..
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 14:02
England batting is in surprisingly good nick, under pressure though they still may very well capitulate. This Tour could have been the crowning of their world dominance by conquering the subcontinent. Instead it has now ended up as a battle to regain their confidence ahead of the Ashes.

Without Swann this particular game probably won't get anywhere though, England do not have a lethal enough spin attack to make significant inroads, though it seems like Compton now has his place most likely guaranteed. Though what would I give in order to see all England's batsmen scoring runs when it actually matters ::) Also a shame Meaker has not had an impact he could be a very useful addition to England's arsenal if called upon.
Froome, look beyond the absolute scorecard and you'll see that it's not really worthy of that much of a mention

8/170 against spinners. Amit Mishra got Compton with his second ball yesterday. It was really against medium bowlers who'd struggle to make Leicestershire second XIs.

As for the spin, Swann's on his reputation atm. I really mean that. It's been nearly 2 years since he really was good, not a Shaun Udal like flash in the pan.

Clarke will ask the image consults what will look the best and do that.

w***er.

But yes I think there will be a replacement

Come in spinner anyone
Nope, replacement is highly unlikely. There has been no precedent of a replacement happening post the start of a test. Don't see Smith trying to do it.
And there was lots of time to put the question to Clarke and it wasn't/hasn't. Or not reported yet.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 14:05
It's all biz? No idea who they'd choose. I feel sorry for JP - really k*k to sit out 6 months.
No, JSG just means Clarke's a pussy.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 14:05
the extent the Aussies are going to

Spirit of cricket.. just ask Paul Collingwood..

Kepler Wessels - who is now my fave SA cricket commentator - said it's pretty standard for teams to have dossiers but not to have them leaked :-D

Had to google that, been out of the test loop - I see!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 14:07
No, JSG just means Clarke's a pussy.

LOL Thanks for being succinct!
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: froome19 on November 09, 2012, 14:09
Froome, look beyond the absolute scorecard and you'll see that it's not really worthy of that much of a mention

8/170 against spinners. Amit Mishra got Compton with his second ball yesterday. It was really against medium bowlers who'd struggle to make Leicestershire second XIs.

As for the spin, Swann's on his reputation atm. I really mean that. It's been nearly 2 years since he really was good, not a Shaun Udal like flash in the pan.
Well Swann is better than Patel and imo still better than Monty. He has been average for a while now but on subcontinent we need the very best we got when it comes to spin options.

True about the batsmen. Novelty to see them all performing well, but I guess you are right that it counts for nought when all things considered.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 14:12
There has been no precedent of a replacement happening post the start of a test.

Don't see Smith trying to do it.

Ok. Yeah, I would prefer they don't ask, somehow.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 14:17
Well Swann is better than Patel and imo still better than Monty. He has been average for a while now but on subcontinent we need the very best we got when it comes to spin options.

True about the batsmen. Novelty to see them all performing well, but I guess you are right that it counts for nought when all things considered.
I look at the team that has performed best in India in recent times. It's South Africa. They never went out of their way to accommodate a spinner. You beat India with good quicks.

Patel walks in as batsman.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: froome19 on November 09, 2012, 14:20
I look at the team that has performed best in India in recent times. It's South Africa. They never went out of their way to accommodate a spinner. You beat India with good quicks.

Patel walks in as batsman.
After SA Tour I am really not sure our quicks are up to the job atm tbh..
Broad worries me, Bresnan has never been good enough, Finn we need fit and available and Anderson can sometimes anonymous..

Patel.. well personally he walks out..
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 14:23
Your guys have been unfit for more than a year. It was obvious since the Abu Dhabi tour. The cracks were papered over then, but they've been 10kmph off the pace for a long while.

Now, just a thing. Warne and Murali have sh*tehole records in India, and if they don't do brilliantly, I'll trust most of the current lot not to either unless it's a Wankhede 2004 pitch (the stadium I'm going to, and not just cos it has Wank in it). Yes, the batting class has dropped and so too the Ranji spin standards, but they're still well competent against spinners. Even today, Baba Aparijith (barely in the TN team) seemed proper against spin.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 14:48
Kepler Wessels - who is now my fave SA cricket commentator
I worry for you

Quote
said it's pretty standard for teams to have dossiers but not to have them leaked :-D
commonplace. Everyone has it, it's usually called 'plans'. They can be good, Paddy Upton recommending sex, or just plain sh*te, England 06/07 Ashes dossier.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 14:51
I worry for you

Paddy Upton recommending sex

What's wrong with Kepler :-D 

PMSL..
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 14:57
Cos of all the players South Africa have produced, he's the worst :censored. Plays for Australia, sooks back off to South Africa when his contract isn't renewed and now his punditry. Not even Saffer cricket fans like him.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 15:08
Not even Saffer cricket fans like him.

Oh, I didn't know that (: He just seems to know cricket quite well..
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 09, 2012, 15:14
Chappelli knows his cricket as well as any, doesn't stop him being a complete tool.
Would much rather listen to an Athers than them.

Anyway, the best ones are prose rather than voice.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 15:22
Would much rather listen to an Athers than them.

Noted
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Arb on November 09, 2012, 23:43
Washout  :-*
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 09, 2012, 23:52
Washout  :-*

So effing disappointed!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 10, 2012, 00:27
Word is that locals in Brisbane say there will probably be no cricket today.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 10, 2012, 05:25
"South Africa seek replacement for injured Duminy. Kirsten said a replacement from South Africa would be summoned, but as yet he was unsure of who would come to Australia for the remainder of the three-Test series."

http://www.sportlive.co.za/cricket/sa/2012/11/10/south-africa-seek-replacement-for-injured-duminy?utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sabreakingnews&utm_source=twitter

Does this mean they must've asked to replace him then??
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Icebreaker on November 10, 2012, 05:38
I just read this thread.  From page 1.

I have no idea what language you people are speaking.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 10, 2012, 05:39
"South Africa seek replacement for injured Duminy. Kirsten said a replacement from South Africa would be summoned, but as yet he was unsure of who would come to Australia for the remainder of the three-Test series."

http://www.sportlive.co.za/cricket/sa/2012/11/10/south-africa-seek-replacement-for-injured-duminy?utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sabreakingnews&utm_source=twitter (http://www.sportlive.co.za/cricket/sa/2012/11/10/south-africa-seek-replacement-for-injured-duminy?utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sabreakingnews&utm_source=twitter)

Does this mean they must've asked to replace him then??
No. There's still a whole tour remaining. Will be someone like Elgar.

And I doubt South Africa even know the rule.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 10, 2012, 05:40
I just read this thread.  From page 1.

I have no idea what language you people are speaking.
You might also want to read all of this  link (http://velorooms.com/general-discussion/cricket-bats-balls-english-diarrhoea-indian-rubbish/)  ;)

The language is known as sagacious.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Icebreaker on November 10, 2012, 05:42
Smart ass
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 10, 2012, 05:47
Yeah, I'll get my coat.

Just discovered that the test match tickets are 20 times cheaper than the 2020 tickets between India and England. flipping hell, have not got up with the 2020 times.

And Brisbane's channelling bloody Manchester. What's with the stupid rain? Amla needs another triple FFS
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Arb on November 10, 2012, 05:51
It's a sh*thole, countless overs lost each summer there. Why not just play every game where it's 40 degrees and dry for the whole season.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 10, 2012, 05:52
Alice Springs has an international stadium? :o
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 10, 2012, 05:53
What's with the stupid rain?

I kept setting my alarm to wake in intervals to check if play had started, but at some point it kinda dawned, super disappointed.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 10, 2012, 05:56
Positive is it spares us watching another day of Kevin Mitchell's are of road paving.
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Post by: Arb on November 10, 2012, 05:57
Kind of, ever seen the Imparja Cup?

I was thinking more of Cam Sutherland's road, though.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 10, 2012, 06:01
Kind of, ever seen the Imparja Cup?
It is sad that I do know it :fp

Quote
I was thinking more of Cam Sutherland's road, though.
Yeah but at least WACA isn't SACAbahn or Gabbahn. Terrible pitches recently. Only India could lose there.

Here I am complaining about roadiest roads and tomorrow I'm going to a match with a pitch as flat as Mark Nickelarse's brain.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 10, 2012, 14:33
I'm most probably clutching at straws.. but 20% is not too bad, right?

Brisbane weather http://t.co/iaL8x0rE
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 10, 2012, 14:35
"@KevinMcCallum: RT @DaleSteyn62: @jpduminy21 Right up ur street ey! Signs r there... Bit worried bout u! Haha http://t.co/2DM07Pqt"

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Post by: ram on November 10, 2012, 15:04
That's as masculine as Duminy has ever looked.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 10, 2012, 17:28
Am a bit nervous to get too excited again, but who am I kidding - and this looks promising

http://www.myweather2.com/Cricket/Australia/The-Gabba-Brisbane.aspx

Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 10, 2012, 18:33
I just read this thread.  From page 1.

I have no idea what language you people are speaking.

You don't follow cricket, Ice? Be careful, it's addictive. Many many hours of my life devoted - the 1st sport I ever got hooked to - hours & hours spent #ILoveCricket
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 05:55
Will be someone like Elgar.

:-) “@SportswaveAndre: Dean Elgar has been added to the Proteas Test squad in Australia - He replaces the injured JP Duminy.”
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 07:44
Herschelle Gibbs "@hershybru: @PatSymcox77 symmo,neil mac would have been my choice too, to replace jp! Played there before and fantastic player of fast bowling!”
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 09:55
“@fwildecricket: Tim Bresnan currently has figures: 6-2-12-2 - his success makes it more likely England will pick just one of Finn & Broad. #IndvEng”
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 10:25
Stumbled across this person on Twitter in the wee hours - have to say I'm loving it so far

"@fwildecricket: Didn't have the balls to stay up & watch the Test? No problem. Relive the days action with Twitter At The Test: http://t.co/fpyrtBAL #AusvSA"

I guess my (current) love of Twitter is no secret, and this blog delivers a blow-by-Twitter-blow account that I really really enjoy - also the comments seem quite insightful, funny & cool - although I guess I don't know enough to be a real good judge at the moment, but that will change over time as I become more informed. Some quotes:

"Meanwhile, Mark Taylor attempted to evaluate Hashim Amla's technique on a touch screen... Was anyone else reminded of a chimpanzee hammering on buttons in lab to get an M&M when Taylor was in that studio?
The Cricket Geek"

"That technical analysis of Hashim Amla by Mark Taylor made as much sense as a Saeed Ajmal interview. #AusvSA
fwildecricket"

Even though I read these earlier already I'm LOLing all over again :-)
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 11:39
“@fwildecricket: England have drawn their final warm-up match with Haryana. The first Test starts on Thursday. #IndvEng”

“@CricketDiscuss: @fwildecricket all was needed was 4 wickets in 11 overs..? Strange one”

“@fwildecricket: @CricketDiscuss yeah, it's been a strange match generally from England. Negative declaration as well.”
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 11, 2012, 13:51
Herschelle Gibbs "@hershybru: @PatSymcox77 symmo,neil mac would have been my choice too, to replace jp! Played there before and fantastic player of fast bowling!”
Played many times and never proved himself worthy enough. No point going back to him.

“@fwildecricket: England have drawn their final warm-up match with Haryana. The first Test starts on Thursday. #IndvEng”

“@CricketDiscuss: @fwildecricket all was needed was 4 wickets in 11 overs..? Strange one”

“@fwildecricket: @CricketDiscuss yeah, it's been a strange match generally from England. Negative declaration as well.”
BS from both. It's a warm up match, the point of it is to practice. Who really bothers about the result? It's not as if it would be a win of merit. It was conjured in every form by Mishra's false captaincy. fwildecricket is only good for a giggle, he never really speaks much sense.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 14:53
Played many times

fwildecricket is only good for a giggle, he never really speaks much sense.

I've never even heard of the dude..

Yeah, it made me giggle for sure - so who is good to follow?
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Post by: ram on November 11, 2012, 15:16
Not heard of Neil Mckenzie?

The real cricket journalists know their stuff and reading them is well more than enough. fwilde and altcricket are only there for sh*tting around and Seppo cricket, which is pointless to the core.

My sources of info are rarely from twitter, and also not any paper thick enough to give Malcolm Conn an article. What a thick flipping :censored.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 16:01
Not heard of Neil Mckenzie?

The real cricket journalists know their stuff and reading them is well more than enough.

Malcolm Conn

The SA cricketer? He still plays, does he write too??

Don't know him :-)
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Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 16:08
Not heard of Neil Mckenzie?

Oh gotcha, the Gibbs tweet.
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Post by: Icebreaker on November 11, 2012, 17:37
You don't follow cricket, Ice? Be careful, it's addictive. Many many hours of my life devoted - the 1st sport I ever got hooked to - hours & hours spent #ILoveCricket

Not a lot of cricket, or cricket coverage in Canada.  Especially this part.

Now, ice hockey ......
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Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 18:21
Not a lot of cricket, or cricket coverage in Canada.  Especially this part.

Now, ice hockey ......

Ah, I see :-)

I love ice hockey. Don't follow it, though. But I love watching when I catch a game. When I lived in Europe I used to watch a fair amount, more coverage & people are more into it. Fast!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 11, 2012, 20:47
Not heard of Neil Mckenzie?

Wasn't sure who they were referring to which is why I posted it. Yeah I know him, first thought it was in reference to cric journo..
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Post by: kabloemski on November 12, 2012, 00:06
"Death of a Gentleman – Coming to a Cinema near you"

“@TheCricketGeek: While we settle in for another day of Test cricket have a read about Jarrod Kimber and Sam Collins documentary on Tests http://t.co/3ZD9jha7”

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Post by: ram on November 12, 2012, 07:29
Gabba, goodbye. Dhaka test tomorrow, not watching this. sh*t shop test pitch leading to a sh*t match. This leads to Kimber's works. This pitch deserves a reprimand.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 12, 2012, 07:33
Not helped by losing an entire day to rain, but the pitch sounds like an absolute featherbed.  Still, hats off to Cowan and particularly Clarke.  Those who have scored double tons as Aussie test captain - Bradman leads the way with 4, then Clarke is in a group on 3 which includes himself, G Chappell and Simpson.  Impressive company for sure.

Here's hoping the captaincy has a similar effect on Cook and turns him into even more of a run machine! 
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Post by: just some guy on November 12, 2012, 07:38
saw the last 5 overs which was nice

WTF  ;D
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Post by: ram on November 12, 2012, 07:42
Not helped by losing an entire day to rain, but the pitch sounds like an absolute featherbed.  Still, hats off to Cowan and particularly Clarke.  Those who have scored double tons as Aussie test captain - Bradman leads the way with 4, then Clarke is in a group on 3 which includes himself, G Chappell and Simpson.  Impressive company for sure.
Only Lara has more.

Hand Kevin Mitchell a knife to dig up the flipping pitch. Shambolic, South Africa would've gotten 600 if they'd not gone on the tonk. This could just as well be a timeless test. Flat track bullying ::)
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Post by: kabloemski on November 12, 2012, 08:39
Gabba, goodbye. Dhaka test tomorrow, not watching this. sh*t shop test pitch leading to a sh*t match. This leads to Kimber's works. This pitch deserves a reprimand.

Yeah, didn't enjoy the cricket one little bit. Will still watch it, though :-)
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Post by: kabloemski on November 14, 2012, 17:55
So who's amped for the cricket tomorrow? I sure am! Plus, I get to sleep in for it :-D
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Post by: ram on November 14, 2012, 18:02
Well yeah.

Ahmedabad- England, win toss and bowl. India- win toss and bat. Use the morning swing in England's case and the last day pitch for India. Won't happen though, Cookie will sh*t his pants about batting last.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 14, 2012, 18:30
I'm so loving all this cricket. Although it makes my social life tough - my non-cricket friends don't seem amped for planning their lives around the schedule - they better watch themselves.. Don't know who Cookie is but sounds like fun.
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Post by: ram on November 15, 2012, 03:59
Sunny and cool-ish. Not swinging most likely. I'm out.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 15, 2012, 05:41
PS I was kidding about Cookie :-)
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 15, 2012, 06:50
Oh dear, wake up to find that England have been Sehwag-ed  :(
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Post by: kabloemski on November 15, 2012, 07:09
Yeah, India are looking way too cool for school.
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Post by: Arb on November 15, 2012, 08:02
I believe it's in my interests not to comment.

Guess I can talk about the weather, who turned the sun on?
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Post by: Archieboy on November 15, 2012, 08:11
Go Swany
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Post by: just some guy on November 15, 2012, 08:12
out
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Post by: kabloemski on November 15, 2012, 08:12
I believe it's in my interests not to comment.

Guess I can talk about the weather, who turned the sun on?

:-D
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Post by: froome19 on November 15, 2012, 08:30
Well there goes the advantage of batting first..
Sehwag proves why he is still there and why he is still such a feared batsmen.

India now have the basis to build a first innings score which will leave England with no choice but to bat out for a draw and probably fail at that.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 15, 2012, 08:36
Wicket!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 15, 2012, 08:36
He'd be disappointed :-(
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Post by: Archieboy on November 15, 2012, 08:37
The fight back begins  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 15, 2012, 08:44
The fight back begins  ;D ;D ;D

Ha ha game ON ;-D
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Post by: ram on November 15, 2012, 08:48
Well there goes the advantage of batting first..
Sehwag proves why he is still there and why he is still such a feared batsmen.
Good innings, but proper Flat track bully. Drew no pleasure watching him slog a listless attack when it's obvious that he'll flip up when it isn't ideal for batting. England's bowlers are now county trundlers. Bresnan 78mph and Broad barely touching 83, and none are nearly controlled enough to justify that pace.

Needed to be hazier and cooler for the bowling to work.

And Sachin now needs to get the flip out of the team.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 15, 2012, 08:51
Needed to be hazier and cooler for the bowling to work.

So the weather affects it that much?
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Post by: ram on November 15, 2012, 09:06
Well, yes.
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Post by: Archieboy on November 15, 2012, 09:32
Juggling  :fp :fp :fp
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Post by: froome19 on November 15, 2012, 10:28
Obvious need for another spinner.. obvious :fp
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 15, 2012, 17:14
And Sachin now needs to get the flip out of the team.

As an Indian, isn't this some sort of blasphemy Ram? 

I predict England getting absoluteely steam rolled in this match.  If Swann's having such an effect on day one, I am slightly scared at what Ashwin and co might do when England bat, let alone what they might achieve in the fourth innings...
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Post by: ram on November 15, 2012, 17:20
As an Indian, isn't this some sort of blasphemy Ram? 

I predict England getting absoluteely steam rolled in this match.  If Swann's having such an effect on day one, I am slightly scared at what Ashwin and co might do when England bat, let alone what they might achieve in the fourth innings...
Astonishingly, it's not an exception that Tendulkar should go. But seriously, his time seems to have come. Over to Rahane or Badri or Saha or Bist.

As for England, this one seems past them. 7/180 against Haryana's so called spinners.

About Monty's non inclusion, it wouldn't have mattered if fat Bresnan wasn't a Maddy like trundler who sprayed everything down legside. The seamers were poor, desperately.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 15, 2012, 20:15
Yes Monty should have played, but with Broad possibly not fit enough to play as one of 2 seamers, they've clearly gone safety first with the extra batsman.  And even with only 1 front line spinner, they manufactured four more chances that they spilled in the field.  Their fielding needs to step up big time, but it has been off the boil for quite a while now
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Post by: ram on November 16, 2012, 02:19
Aye, and that's my point, hindsight's easy. If Bresnan hadn't been such a waste of time, and Jimmy and Broad so wasteful, Swann could've bowled from one end and easily controlled the RR. The first session post the first half hour was exactly how not to bowl. Not test standard.

The best team in India is South Africa, they came with Paul Harris.

And how flipping terrible was Kohli's shot? Clueless
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Post by: Archieboy on November 16, 2012, 07:31
5 wickets  for Swanny now.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 16, 2012, 07:58
5 wickets  for Swanny now.

I know - he's on fire!
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Post by: froome19 on November 16, 2012, 08:24
Hate to see what Ashwin and Ojha will do, but to be honest it is probably immaterial at the moment.

Though India surprisingly slowing the run rate which allows England more opportunity to play for a draw, though as I write Ashwin starts opening up.

England do look pretty rejected n the field though.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 16, 2012, 08:38
And how flipping terrible was Kohli's shot? Clueless

Has he not matured a lot recently? Um, not my words :-D but I got this as response when I asked somebody about it.
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Post by: ram on November 16, 2012, 09:21
Well that's a weird response whoever gave it.

It was a sh*tty defensive shot, you could park a car in that gap. Not exactly something to do with maturity. He could've gone more than once against Swann. Finally, getting hundreds in meaningless ODIs doesn't mean maturity, he's still a petulant twit.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 16, 2012, 09:40
Well that's a weird response whoever gave it.

It was a sh*tty defensive shot, you could park a car in that gap. Not exactly something to do with maturity. He could've gone more than once against Swann. Finally, getting hundreds in meaningless ODIs doesn't mean maturity, he's still a petulant twit.

Gotcha.
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Post by: ram on November 16, 2012, 11:43
At least England are still wank against spin.
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Post by: Zam on November 16, 2012, 12:02
England are sh*te....they have a losing attitude it seems  @ this current series.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 16, 2012, 13:12
What was the final score for the day?
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Post by: ram on November 16, 2012, 13:28
3/41
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Post by: froome19 on November 16, 2012, 13:32
Went out before England started their innings, but good move by India to declare when they did and it may just have won them the test.

England.. well no surprises there, one day I would like to think that with all the coaches and training such a well drilled team as England have that they could learn to actually play proper spin.. but until then.. ::)
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Post by: Zam on November 16, 2012, 13:37
Went out before England started their innings, but good move by India to declare when they did and it may just have won them the test.

England.. well no surprises there, one day I would like to think that with all the coaches and training such a well drilled team as England have that they could learn to actually play proper spin.. but until then.. ::)

I think the declaration was a no brainer...pujara was over 200  etc etc.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 16, 2012, 13:48
3/41

Thanks
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Post by: ram on November 16, 2012, 13:56
I think the declaration was a no brainer...pujara was over 200  etc etc.
Yeah, the declaration was obvious. Spinning pitch and 500 odd, had to come.

Went out before England started their innings, but good move by India to declare when they did and it may just have won them the test.

England.. well no surprises there, one day I would like to think that with all the coaches and training such a well drilled team as England have that they could learn to actually play proper spin.. but until then.. ::)

England's woes against spin won't end. Now, let's see. Both Husseys have spent years in county cricket. Lehmann, Maher, Elliott and anyone out of the first XI all spent years in counties. South Africa rule county cricket. Sri Lanka have had Murali, Maharoof and of course Sanga play there. Pakistan have had a shed load. County cricket saved Zaheer's career from the nadir. Sourav, Dravid, Laxman and Kartik played there (Kartik still does, of course). Now it's Ojha.

What's England's problem? They're crap against spin in subcontinental conditions. How to combat that when you know you're crap at best then? Why not make the centrally contracted players available for Ranji cricket or to play in Lanka? There's a problem when the most desire is shown by Adam Wheater and guys who're on 20 quid a month like Hougego. Play the best here at struck down rates so they get available for state teams. Playing some 'lowly' Ranji cricket, that's the best way to acclimatise to Indian conditions. You'll have days in the field, you'll have rank turners, you'll have the odd greentop too. That's never going to be realised though.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 06:17
Wow, England - not putting up much of a fight!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 06:18
Good bowling or bad batting, I'm missing it?
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 06:28
Well, it's India, deffo good bowling..
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 11:05
England making a comeback? "@TheCricketGeek: Great effort under huge pressure from the openers. If Compton scores a debut triple hundred England are right back in this #IndvsEng"
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Post by: Archieboy on November 17, 2012, 11:10
Good effort from Cook and Compton, finally England win a session.
But Bell  >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: sublimit on November 17, 2012, 11:38
Captain Cook and Mr Nicholas Compton showing a stiff upper lip and digging in,  like the last stand of the British Empire.  :fp
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Post by: ram on November 17, 2012, 11:58
Sir Ian Bellington of Edgbaston is a treat to watch. It's not the runs that matter, it's the intent and Sir Ian Bellington showed his class. Also, he's fantastic in the nets.

Nonetheless, Compton seems to be a learner. Much better in the second innings than just block.

Flower's plans were brilliant. Repeatability was the key to England's successes earlier. Repeat all that they did in their wins, it's the same they're doing now. Repeating UAE all over again.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 12:05
Glad England putting up a fight. As lo g as India win in the end.. ;-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 12:06
Sir Ian Bellington of Edgbaston is a treat to watch. It's not the runs that matter, it's the intent and Sir Ian Bellington showed his class. Also, he's fantastic in the nets.

Ha ha PMSL
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Post by: ram on November 17, 2012, 12:29
The Ahmedabad test has been sh*t. The sh*ttest day of batting from England. The sh*ttest day of umpiring in the past few years. At least half dozen wrong decision today. Terrible. Be a flipping wonder if India don't sleep with DRS in the next series.

Thank goodness the two other tests were been good today.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 12:32
The Ahmedabad test has been sh*t. The sh*ttest day of batting from England. The sh*ttest day of umpiring in the past few years. At least half dozen wrong decision today. Terrible. Be a flipping wonder if India don't sleep with DRS in the next series.

Thank goodness the two other tests were been good today.

Seriously? Missed all of it.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 12:33
I heard India don't use DRS.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 12:34
"Harris pushes Robin Peterson's Test case

A frontline spinner is likely be included in South Africa's starting XI for the second Test against Australia next week after the dalliance with an all-pace attack proved unsuccessful in Brisbane. While Imran Tahir is the obvious choice, being the incumbent, former Test player Paul Harris had some other advice for the national selectors.

Speaking to ESPNcricinfo before the series, Harris said he would "love to see Robin Peterson get a go in Test cricket". Peterson may always be remembered as the man Brian Lara took 28 runs off in a single over at the Wanderers in 2003, still the most expensive over in Test history, but he has made massive strides since then."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-south-africa-2012/content/story/591636.html
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Post by: ram on November 17, 2012, 12:38
Play a part timer as lead spinner ::) Okay a bit better than a part timer but he'll get fliped in test cricket. He's not better than Sehwag.

Seriously? Missed all of it.
England India or the rest?
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 12:49
Play a part timer as lead spinner ::) Okay a bit better than a part timer but he'll get fliped in test cricket. He's not better than Sehwag.


England India or the rest?

Yeah, I have no idea, tbh, but hopefully I'll be more clued up after watching the next few tests. Never seen Harris play, saw you mentioned him. And you said Sehwag only good on flat wicket... or did I misunderstand??

Missed all of it.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 13:03
Got Yahoo Cricket app 111/0?
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Post by: ram on November 17, 2012, 13:04
 
Yeah, I have no idea, tbh, but hopefully I'll be more clued up after watching the next few tests. Never seen Harris play, saw you mentioned him. And you said Sehwag only good on flat wicket... or did I misunderstand??

Missed all of it.
Yeah, misunderstood all of it. Harris isn't logically playing any tests. He's speaking about Peterson the bowler and I compared him to Sehwag the bowler.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 13:07
Sorry! Too much going on my side, I'm not concentrating.. and I'm a bit clueless to boot, thanks for clarifying.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 13:11
:-) Got that we were talking about bowlers.. I do know Robin P.. but yes, thought you were cross-comparing his bowling with Sewhag's batting.. if that makes sense.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 18, 2012, 05:39
"@fwildecricket: Bell will leave India after this Test for the birth of his child, after his first innings brain fade, this innings is huge for him. #IndvEng"
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Post by: sublimit on November 18, 2012, 09:45
"@fwildecricket: Bell will leave India after this Test for the birth of his child, after his first innings brain fade, this innings is huge for him. #IndvEng"

Nice.    Hopefully the minging ginger man Bairstow might get a go, and replace Bresnan with Panersar hopefully.

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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 18, 2012, 11:07
Hats off to Cookie, top innings from the skipper - first time a captain has scored 3 hundreds in his first 3 tests as captain.  And well played Prior as well for digging in and going with him.  However, they need to do it all again tomorrow, probably until about an hour after lunch if not more, to make this game safe.  India sound as if they have gone a bit flat and perhaps 2 solid days in the field is starting to catch up with them... #clutchingatstraws

Regarding the umpiring and DRS, I think this test has been the perfect advert for it, and the BCCI now look rather foolish.  Some absolute howlers affecting both sides, which DRS would undoubtedly have overturned.  Are the BCCI at all open to changing their mind?  And can it be brought in half way through a series?
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Post by: ram on November 18, 2012, 11:54
Cook's best hundred. Special innings, and he barely needed to have a swagger or swish swash. Just went around barely looking like he breathed. Fantastic, and to do it in Indian conditions, even better. Special player, and Ganguly loves him. Rightly so too.

Prior, nuff said really. He's got to be as good as Stewart, when keeping of course (and apart from Warnie, but many shat bricks against him), I know that he's got to be brilliant to be compared to him, and it's not a sudden blowing my load reaction. He really is flipping fantastic.

As for the umpires, no bloody way is Tony Hill even remotely an international umpire. He'd be hard pressed to find a Ranji game, that's how sh*t he is. He'd defo not be one if he weren't a Kiwi. Desperately calling for DRS, avoid the finger wagging bullsh*t from players and the sooking too. Just get the right decisions, and even Cookie was gone for 41 or so yesterday.

DRS won't be implemented like that unfortunately Dances. The BCCI's not going to take a sudden stance where they'd effectively admit to being on the wrong for a couple of years. And if it has to be made mandatory, there needs to be a vote in the  ICC and the president has to okay that vote to take place. Fat flipping chance of that.

And finally India, clueless bloody thundermuppets. Spin versus pace in second innings-
Pace- 37 overs 3/98
Spin- 91 overs 2/232
This apart from Ashwin looking as aggressive as a testosterone lacking bullock, and Yadav and Zaheer by far the two most dangerous bowlers around. Dhoni, you clueless :censored.

Bat till tea tomorrow, and the match is a draw. Till then, I'll favour India. But Sehwag should flip it up in the second innings.

The Cookie's brilliant
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Post by: Archieboy on November 18, 2012, 12:07
Great innigs from Chef, Essex to the fore, but what is it with KP and left arm spin :fp
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Post by: kabloemski on November 18, 2012, 12:13
I missed most of it AGAIN, travelling, glad England fighting back :-)
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Post by: ram on November 18, 2012, 12:14
Great innigs from Chef, Essex to the fore, but what is it with KP and left arm spin :fp
He's had a few visibly different techniques against them. Funny how a good player looks so incompetent against them. Gooch Terry Alderman like.

Just seems to impatient, and though he's vital for England anywhere, his record round these parts is far from flash. May need to watch his 150 against Sri Lanka a few times just so he knows how to play left arm orthodox. Herath was smashed around like a nobody that day.

Also, good match at Galle going on. Good times.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 18, 2012, 12:15
But India for prezident :-D
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Post by: ram on November 18, 2012, 12:27
They already are defacto ICC presidents ::)
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Post by: kabloemski on November 18, 2012, 12:33
He he good stuff.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 18, 2012, 12:37
I'm giddy :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 18, 2012, 12:37
Later, peeps!
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Post by: froome19 on November 18, 2012, 12:47
Tomorow will be a very exciting day, though I am sure England will be hoping that it will be rather more mellow..

Last day of Hols for me, but nevertheless will be waking up at crack of dawn for this test. England's perfomance has been summed up well above but truly heartening to see some of our batsmen actually coming out and playing decent cricket .Prior deserves a special mention as he always seems to perform well even if our top order batsmen do not and he does seem to enjoy the sub continent more than the others do. Pietersen and Bell though are going to make this series incredibly hard for us to win though and it may be a blessing in disguise if Bell goes home before the second test. Meanwhile if we had a second spinner we would have had a fair chance of winning this game but with only the one it will be full out to bat for the draw. Problem is though the bottom order could contribute a couple of runs I have no faith that they will last in total more than a session so if this partnership falls before Lunch then England will be up against it imo.
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Post by: ram on November 18, 2012, 12:55
I know Dancing likes him, but if Bellend goes, it's not a blessing in disguise, it's a real blessing for England. He's clueless at best.

Also, I have more faith in the lower order with the bat than the middle order. The batsman for England at 8 or 9 are better than 5 or 6 atm.

Thought Ahmedabad was a turner, wait till Wankhede. Can be a proper rank turner at times. And there'll be grass, but it won't swing.
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Post by: froome19 on November 18, 2012, 13:00
I know Dancing likes him, but if Bellend goes, it's not a blessing in disguise, it's a real blessing for England. He's clueless at best.

Also, I have more faith in the lower order with the bat than the middle order. The batsman for England at 8 or 9 are better than 5 or 6 atm.
True at the moment that maybe so, but Bresnan, Broad and Swann are  not going to occupy the crease for a long period of time by any stretch of the imagination, they can get in but never anything more. Broad hit a decent inning against Pakistan.. so did Jason Gillespie  ::)

Quote
Thought Ahmedabad was a turner, wait till Wankhede. Can be a proper rank turner at times. And there'll be grass, but it won't swing.

Monty must be licking his lips..
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Post by: ram on November 18, 2012, 13:05
True at the moment that maybe so, but Bresnan, Broad and Swann are  not going to occupy the crease for a long period of time by any stretch of the imagination, they can get in but never anything more. Broad hit a decent inning against Bangladesh.. so did Jason Gillespie  ::)
Monty must be licking his lips..
Broad's 169 or so was against Pakistan.
Second, Gillespie's partnerships with Martyn 2004. Killed us they did. Looked more assured against Kumble and Harbhajan than most of the England batting.

And Bresnan pretty bloody dour. If he gets runs, he does them by boring the opposition to death.
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Post by: Zam on November 18, 2012, 16:17
Captain Cook and Mr Nicholas Compton showing a stiff upper lip and digging in,  like the last stand of the British Empire.  :fp
  Nice ;D LOL
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 18, 2012, 20:39
I know I'm a huge fan of Bell, but  he's not done himself any favours this match.  Silly boy  :( 

And Broad hasn't looked like scoring any decent runs for ages.  His confidence looks shot - he's a very capable batsman, but now he just goes in and tries to smash everything out park, and invariably fails.  Bresnan will need to score a century tomorrow to make up for his crap bowling, and that sure as hell ain't happening.

Also, saw the Patel dismissal  on the news earlier.  Smashed it, going down leg...terrible decision.  The ball that got Trott though was an absolute beauty. 
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Post by: kabloemski on November 19, 2012, 06:16
So will SL v NZ be any good?
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Post by: kabloemski on November 19, 2012, 07:03
"Adaptable South Africa face Adelaide adjustment

The variety led bowling coach Allan Donald to claim it was the best South African attack he had ever seen but they looked a few shades off that in Brisbane.

On a pitch that delivered almost none of what it promised, the much-hyped fast bowlers were reduced to nothing but workhorses. Most of the team, including batsmen Alviro Petersen, Hashim Amla and vice-captain AB de Villiers, admitted South Africa expected more from the surface which drove their decision to leave out Imran Tahir and opt for a pace battalion.

Quietly, Australia may have been chuckling that their opposition misread conditions, having not played a Test at the Gabba since before isolation. It was an error that proved even in an age where information is easily accessible thanks to technology, there is still great value in experience. Morne Morkel suggested as much ahead of the second match in Adelaide."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-south-africa-2012/content/current/story/591986.html
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Post by: kabloemski on November 19, 2012, 08:47
I'm feeling so out of touch with the cricket :-( but that will change at 1.30 am Thursday morning :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 20, 2012, 09:31
"Australia carry momentum into Adelaide Test

South Africa's No. 1 Test ranking is on the line in the three-match series and it lived up to its billing as a heavyweight contest at the Gabba, where the tourists took the early initiative but Australia finished on a high.

A brilliant unbeaten 259 from skipper Michael Clarke combined with centuries from Ed Cowan and Mike Hussey defused the celebrated South African bowling attack and left the Proteas to bat out the final day for a draw.

"We think we came out of that Test on top and thought there were a couple of big blows we landed," Australia spinner Nathan Lyon said this week.

The Adelaide track is unlikely to offer them too much for the opening couple of days at least, and whichever captain wins the toss would be well-advised to bat first.

South Africa's bowlers have been left in no doubt that better is expected of them in Adelaide after they toiled on a wicket that offered them little in Brisbane.

"It's almost like the sub-continent, it's very slow for the first three days then quickens up towards the back end," Australia and former South Africa coach Mickey Arthur said.

"It goes from being the best batting wicket in the world to being pretty difficult to bat on in days four and five. So, big first innings are the way to go there."

http://mg.co.za/article/2012-11-20-australia-carry-momentum-into-adelaide-test/
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Post by: kabloemski on November 20, 2012, 11:07
South Africa and Australia are 2 of the worst teams playing cricket, they don't bring anything to the sport and should be replaced by Ireland and another team.

Will anyone take the bait?

I'm going to drink a bottle of brandy, and then I'll get back to you ;-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 20, 2012, 11:41
Only 1 bottle that's not enough to watch a South Africa-Australia test match!

Oh, you must've watched the 1st test then...
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Post by: kabloemski on November 20, 2012, 11:58
PMSL.. Well if the next one is anything like the first one you might have to FedEx me some - we'll know soon enough - Thursday is crickeywickey time yay!
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 20, 2012, 21:52
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20409504 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20409504)

 ;D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 20, 2012, 22:00
;D

Holy moly, he's badass :-o
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Post by: kabloemski on November 20, 2012, 23:12
Dan Christian will be the guy who does the destroying of the house before it's remade.

Demolition Dan - it's catchy :-D
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Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 02:23
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20409504 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20409504)

 ;D
Saw that yesterday and first thought, at least a Barrel can destroy something.

What about Ponting?

Oh and Finn's not there for the 2nd test.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 06:07
"SOUTH Africa has made two changes for the second Test in Adelaide, beginning tomorrow. As expected, leg-spinner Imran Tahir has replaced fast bowler Rory Kleinveldt and batsman Faf du Plessis comes in for the injured JP Duminy."

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cricket/south-africa-bring-in-imran-tahir-and-faf-du-plessis-for-the-second-test-against-australia/story-e6frfg8o-1226521197026
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Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 10:11
"@fwildecricket: Pepsi wins title sponsorship rights for the IPL for five seasons for Rs 396.8 crore. Almost double what DLF paid five years ago. #IPL"

Um, hope I don't get run out of town by an angry mob for putting IPL stuff on a cricket thread :-D
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Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 10:23
Maybe flung out to the next town.

Only thing lost is when Dhoni hits a DLF. Dhoni now hits a pepsi
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Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 10:54
Dhoni now hits a pepsi

That sounds funny - and a bit like a sh*tty shot, actually..
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Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 10:55
Mown down. Flung. Thanks for taking it easy :-)
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Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 11:04
Look a few posts up. No surprise.
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Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 11:10
Yes, in 2002, when a race controversy broke out of it with Rudolph being picked ahead of Ontong.

With de Kock, Elgar and Faf around, there's no need to go to Ontong.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 11:13
de Kock

From Highveld Lions.. Enjoyed watching him the last few that I saw.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 11:15
maybe that was just a dream I had.

Time to put away that crack pipe..
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Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 11:16
That was his sh*t format. He's a proper four day player.

Do they just use that Miller in test cricket or is it just ODI's and moneyball$$$?
David Miller hasn't really done anything in FC cricket. Elgar is good and de Kock's a proper prospect.

And Abul Hasan. That's all.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 11:17
That was his sh*t format. He's a four day player.

de Kock's a proper prospect.

Look forward to seeing that.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 17:24
Four hour delay at the airport! My afternoon nap to recover from the overindulgence that was Jozi never happened - but we'll rig the caffeine drip, the lads will have support at 1.30 am tomorrow morning - can't wait.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 01:36
83/3 More than pleased :-)
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 02:07
Just heard Philander out with a back injury - so that's why Rory is in. And Kallis also injured.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 02:25
Well to be fair, Kallis must be about 60+ so no shock he's injured.

:-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 02:26
Seeing Ponting's wicket fall for the 3rd time now. Wow. That just looks bizarre.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 02:34
Well jeez if we injure any more of our players we might just bundle ourselves out of it..
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 02:44
Kallis off for a scan.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 02:46
It would break my heart if Smith got injured, love that guy :P

Ha ha there's medication for that you know!
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Post by: Ram on November 22, 2012, 03:44
Allan Donald pre-series, this is one of the All time great bowling attacks.

Indeed Allan, all time great.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 03:55
Allan Donald pre-series, this is one of the All time great bowling attacks.

Indeed Allan, all time great.

Yeah, proof is in the pudding, hey? I'm very happy for wicket #4 was worried that Warner was going to hang around forever. Ok, now for the next one.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 04:08
"@Isam84: Abul Hasan finally falls to a brute from Edwards. 113 runs - highest on debut at No 10 beating Reggie Duff. #WhoWasReggieDuff"
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Post by: Ram on November 22, 2012, 04:30
Reggie Duff was a batsman and he was batting at ten because of a sticky wicket. Common practice to flip the order to protect the batsmen back then. I'm sure I read that Hugh Trumble opened the batting in that match and it would've had a host of legends- Trumble, Trumper, Monty Noble, Clem Hill, and a young Warwick Armstrong. Armstrong batted at eleven in that match.

They were 5/40 or 50 in the second innings before Clem Hill scored 99, Duff his hundred and Warwick Armstrong was just shy of his fifty. May have also been the record for highest tenth wicket partnership between Duff and Armstrong back then.

England had their legends too, Sydney Barnes of course, Gloucester great Gilbert Jessop, Tom Hayward and Archie Mclaren (who later worked for Ranji and maintained his accounts) and I think Ranji had a few troubles that year with his kingdom and accounts, either that or he was sick as always. Was one of his worst.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 04:47
Interesting stuff. Been checking for 'Ranji' and it's rather pricy ($80 excl postage, which can be steep to SA) on the websites I've seen, don't mind paying for a good book, but will see if I can find it at a better price, eBay or somesuch. Look forward to reading that.

Yeah, I seem to remember that flipping of batting order back in the day, lot more common then if memory serves, forgot about that.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 04:48
Sometimes on Supersport they show old matches that were legendary, I really enjoy those.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 04:57
sticky wicket

"The ground... was suffering from the effects of recent rain, and once more the Australians found themselves on a sticky wicket."

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/334550.html

So a sticky wicket is not just a difficult wicket?
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 05:03
Oh, so it gets wet, then dries, and then literally sticky?
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Post by: Ram on November 22, 2012, 05:16
An uncovered pitch having rain fall on it which allowed for extremely favourable spin bowling conditions. Two famous instances of sticky wickets were Laker's match, Old Trafford 56, and the final test of the 68 Ashes.

Trumble was lethal on a sticky wicket, and in recent times Underwood's efforts on such sticky wickets (like the 68 ashes test) were exemplary.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 05:21
Ok. Don't know Underwood at all. My Google is working haaard
:-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 05:47
Awesome cricket from Clarke. SA must catch a f*cken wake up.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 05:47
:-)
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 05:49
Now Steyn potential injury???
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 05:58
"@fwildecricket: The record number of runs scored by a single team in a day in a Test match is 509, by Sri Lanka against Bangladesh in 2002. #AusvSA"
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Post by: Ram on November 22, 2012, 06:08
Saw that match. Mad Max scored a double and Sanath was batting at 6 and Arnold opening for some reason. Sanath scored a hundred.

They were making up overs for a half washed out first day.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 06:33
Awesome.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 07:02
Um I find these factoids quite fun, so here goes

"@sacricketblog: RT @cricket365: Clarke moves into the 190s. If he gets 200 he will be the first player to get four double tons in a calendar year."
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 07:03
Pretty cool stuff.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 07:03
Hussey on 94 - how did that happen - they're making it look so easy!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 07:04
Wow Clarke!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 07:11
Ok my last one

"@Cricket_Mann: Before Michael Clarke, four batsmen have made back-to-back Test double 100s: Bradman, Hammond, Kambli & Sangakarra."
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Post by: just some guy on November 22, 2012, 07:46
woke up to  ;D

number 1 test attack my ass

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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 07:55
woke up to  ;D

number 1 test attack my ass

Damn, I can't believe it! SA again just fizzled.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 07:56
Yeah where is that #1 bowling?
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 08:57
"@TestMatchSofa: Yee Gods. Just seen Tahir's figures. 21-0-159-0. These must be the worst recorded on a 1st day in test match history. #AusvSA"
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 10:04
"@CricketDiscuss: Jacques Kallis has been given the nod to bad in the #AusvSA Adelaide test. He is not allowed to bowl following his grade 1 hamstring strain"
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Post by: Ram on November 22, 2012, 13:37
It's not just him that's had the nod to bad.

Tis a pointless match on offer again. A road, half stadium and a 55 flipping metre boundary. Pathetic effort by SACA. Australia to score 600 and South Africa to reply with 480 or some similar and it's going to be a one match series in Perth. Two of the worst pitches I've seen in a long time, makes SSC seem worthy (and even that isn't first choice for tests now).

Top innings by Clarke, but it aint anything compared to Pietersen's 140 odd against the Saffers on a real pitch and not a concrete surface.

Ponting's a bloody corpse, any deader and he'd become a fossil fuel.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 22, 2012, 17:48
Unbelievable stuff from Clarke, not just in this match but this whole year.  Don't think it's going out on too much of a limb to say that Pup and Cook are the two class batsmen in world cricket right now.  Which means that it is all bubbling up nicely for the Ashes next year - two captains going head to head, can't wait!  Kallis going off injured is a stark reminder to Saffa fans that he's getting on a bit, and won't be around for ever.  Without him, their whole side alters, and gets hugely weaker.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 18:05
Yeah, Kallis - you said it.
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Post by: Ram on November 23, 2012, 12:57
In the last week
Pujara>Clarke
Also Cook>Clarke

His best innings is still that 150 in that 9/21 test.
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Post by: sublimit on November 23, 2012, 13:06
Pujara must be the best batter out there IMO.      Clarke against Saffir bowlers is probably a harder test than against the English but I go with Pujara > Everybody because of the way he's playing at the minute.
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Post by: froome19 on November 23, 2012, 13:29
Australia determined to make this series a draw and SA obliging..

Have refrained from commenting on England series but today was an interesting day, Pujara is utter class, but tbh England acquited themselves reasonably well against a poor Indian top order performance.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 23, 2012, 14:13
Curious to see how tomorrow turns out for SA and India - hope to see some good cricket either way.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 01:23
Sigh.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 02:48
Tis a pointless match on offer again. A road, half stadium and a 55 flipping metre boundary. Pathetic effort by SACA. Two of the worst pitches I've seen in a long time

Ponting's a bloody corpse, any deader and he'd become a fossil fuel.

So they really are bad pitches? I almost find that a bit of a relief.. as opposed to SA just being sh*te..

:-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 03:16
Two of the worst pitches

What makes them so bad, technically?
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 03:17
"@WindiesIntl: #BanvWi Marlon Samuels, Shiv Chandepaul and Darren Bravo have put the Windies on the front foot but the pitch is an absolute belter."
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 04:43
"@OfficialCSA: Aus/SA: South Africa 388/10 (124.3), du Plessis c Clarke b Hilfenhaus 78 (159 b 13x4 1x6 ) SR: 49.06; 388/10(124.3)"

Ok SA - now kick some bowling butt :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 05:15
"@Isam84: Shakib is now equal with Mohammad Rafique who ended his career with 100 wickets. There's certainly a lot more left for Shakib."
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 05:27
"@Cricket_Mann: Swann - 4th quickest Englishman to 200   Test wickets...behind Botham, Trueman & Bedser."
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 06:36
"@FirdoseM: Rory Kleinveldt, who should never play Test cricket ever again, has taken his third wicket. Aus are three down. #ausvsa"

YAY! COME ON SA!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 07:16
I've died and gone to cricket heaven :-D "@FirdoseM: Morkel has first in this innings. Serves Aus right for bringing in a nightwitchman. Aus 103 for 5. Setting it up very nicely here. #ausvsa"
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Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 09:24
"@SportswaveAndre: Jacques Kallis can bat in the Adelaide second innings - But is likely to miss the third and final Test match in Perth."
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Post by: just some guy on November 24, 2012, 09:28
Oz should win this easy now

With Lyon , clarke and warner spinning them to victory
 :fp
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Post by: Arb on November 24, 2012, 09:56
Sad that the Adelaide pitch once again gets a result due to incompetent batting. Was also hoping for a draw as then the WACA pitch would get doctored for a result.

WANKHEDE > any pitch in Australia.
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Post by: froome19 on November 24, 2012, 22:37
Really heartening to see KP playing the way he is with him in this form England only need to play around him and with the way Cook is playing atm we can do even more than that. I do not have much confidence when it comes to our N0.5/6 so things still fragile..

Also seems we now have a trio of near invincible batsmen as things now stand.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 25, 2012, 10:07
"@SapaSport: All-rounder Ryan McLaren has been called up to the Proteas touring squad as cover for Vernon Philander and Jacques Kallis who are injured"
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Post by: Archieboy on November 25, 2012, 11:13
Monty on fire today :tu :tu :tu
That Indian 2nd innings scorecard makes really nice reading, well done the team :tu :tu :tu
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Post by: froome19 on November 25, 2012, 12:31
Call me a cynic but I just do not trust the English batting lineup chasing anything above 50 against Ojha and Ashwin  :fp
Even if Monty >>> Indian spinners
 O0
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Post by: kabloemski on November 25, 2012, 18:07
Well, getting up for the crickey tomorrow ... although I fear to see more crap cricket from SA (:
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Post by: kabloemski on November 25, 2012, 18:29
"@CricketDiscuss: Ponting / Tendulkar - Who retires first? #cricket"
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 00:20
So I'm up for it - and all I can say so far is that I am grumpy & tired and AB and Faf bloodywell better hang in there!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 02:06
Well, AB & Faf have really made my day so far!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 03:08
Sorry to see Abes go, but very impressed with him, the guys really hung in there.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 03:28
"@ZaltzCricket: ABdeV (33 off 220) narrowly failed to powergrind the Beethoven Of Block, Chris Tavare (35 off 240), out of 1st place. http://t.co/FGM2Wcvg"
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 06:28
Anybody watching the cricket???
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Post by: froome19 on November 26, 2012, 06:43
Woke up to watch and we have made it :woohoo
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Post by: froome19 on November 26, 2012, 06:47
South Africa have played well today and Du Plessis :pray
Aussies need a breathrough soon and they are finding it difficult and Siddle seems to be really struggling atm..
They need to get in as many overs as possible, yet their bowlers are struggling so I believe SA will just about make this.
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Post by: froome19 on November 26, 2012, 07:02
Even if I am supporting SA there is nothing to do but to give big Peter Siddle a :hug
He is utterly exhausted yet with his last vestiges of energy he took Kleivdeldt's wicket and then has bowled another two on his knees.
Yet Du Plessis is unpenetrable and has batted out a day and a quarter in his first test in order to save his country.
Brilliant game.
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Post by: Archieboy on November 26, 2012, 07:17
Yep great win for England, just got to work & looked at the scorecard, Monty 210/11 in the match, great decision not to play him in the first test :fp :fp
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Post by: just some guy on November 26, 2012, 07:33
nice work by South Africa

all to play for in Perth
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Post by: sublimit on November 26, 2012, 10:55
Rams and Zams boys took a hell of a beating.   ;D

I hope Broad is dropped for the next game and Bresnan brought back also.   
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Post by: Arb on November 26, 2012, 11:21
Gotta say those Aussie fans are lucky, in the competition the Aus TV station run, you can win a years worth of KFC! What an awesome prize!

It's sad to see what has become of the ones who were the lead innovators in cricket coverage. It's not just the tired or clueless commentators, but the cringeworthy cross-promotion and ad placement.

Rights are up for renewal any time now and it looks like they will have a fight on their hands to keep them.
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Post by: sublimit on November 26, 2012, 11:26
Maybe England shouldn;t be allowed to play Monty Python Panesar, in the next game. It wasn't fair on the Indian batters.

Well we did drop him for the first game to make it more competitive.   ;)

I'm trying to work out the lamest performing player of the 2 squads and its a toss up between Broad and Tendulkar.
Tendulkar looks to be completely shot but  Broad will be back next year on faster pitches though I suspect.
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Post by: Archieboy on November 26, 2012, 12:15

I'm trying to work out the lamest performing player of the 2 squads

After two tests I think the honor of being lamest perfomer should go to Trott, 3 innings, 2 ducks & just 17 runs scored, not what you expect from a number 3 in the order.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 15:19
Woke up to watch and we have made it :woohoo

Well done to England :-)
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 15:21
Even if I am supporting SA there is nothing to do but to give big Peter Siddle a :hug
He is utterly exhausted yet with his last vestiges of energy he took Kleivdeldt's wicket and then has bowled another two on his knees.
Yet Du Plessis is unpenetrable and has batted out a day and a quarter in his first test in order to save his country.
Brilliant game.

100% you have to respect a good player whether your team or not - it's fantastic cricket, and that is all :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 15:22
nice work by South Africa

all to play for in Perth

Yeah I was up at 1.30 am - grumpy as f*ck and not knowing what to expect - well, the lads made my heart beat custard :-D Viva SA :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 15:24
Watched a little bit of the 5th day between Oz and RSA, whilst waiting for the 3rd NFL game to start. Gotta say those Aussie fans are lucky, in the competition the Aus TV station run, you can win a years worth of KFC! What an awesome prize!

:-D PMSL! You're a scream, BYOP.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 15:24
and Trott hasn't even had the decency to get the trotts. Nevermind Bell will be back next game(I think, was he injured/having the trotts/something else I missed?) so the batting will be epic once more.

Birth of baby?
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 26, 2012, 19:16
All credit to Faf (every time I say his name it makes me smile) - tremendous effort on debut.  Clarke must be wondering what he's got to do to beat the Saffa's...score back to back doubles and only draw.  Here's hoping that Perth is quick and bouncy  :-*

As for England, a fantastic win, beating India at their own game.  If, and it is still a very big if, England go onto win the series, Dhoni might face some seriously uncomfortable questions for his insistence at the ground staff to prepare raging turners.  Ashwin has been really poor, and Ojha, although he's bowled quite well, is nowhere near the class of Swann or Monty.  That said, their efforts would have been immaterial if it hadn't been for KP.  Although he comes across as an arrogant and egotistical pr*ck 99% of the time, it's in that other 1% that he proves why he is so valuable to this England team, and arguably to world cricket in general.  He can do things that no other player is capable of, and when he's 'on', he's simply mesmeric...unbelievable innings.   

Also, was pleased to see the way Compton batted in the second innings - played nice and positively to ensure there wouldn't be any wobbling, and hope he gets some good runs in the next test.  If Finn is fit, then I hope he comes in for Broad, Bell presumably comes back in for Bairstow, other than that, more of the same please.

As a final thought, I dislike seeing spinners opening the bowling in tests, let alone 2 of them as happened in England's second innings.  Speaking as an aggrieved quickie, it's not right I tell ya!
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 26, 2012, 20:34
Wow, we all enjoyed the cricket, huh! Awesome stuff :-D
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 27, 2012, 08:40
"@dawn_com: #Clarke takes over as world’s No.1 Test batsman http://t.co/R89edrlW #Australia #cricket"

"It is the third time Clarke has moved to the top of the table, having first achieved the ranking in August 2009 and then again surging to the summit in March-April this year."

http://dawn.com/2012/11/27/clarke-takes-over-as-worlds-no-1-test-batsman/
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Post by: sublimit on November 27, 2012, 10:42
Ian Bell (end) if he can be bothered to turn up will be the #1.     Kidding.

Cook is doing well,  he could possibly be a legend in the making for England to go alongside Hammond, Hobbs, Hutton, et al.
 
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 27, 2012, 10:57
Anybody watching NZ v SL? SL started sh*tty but pulling an SA :-D stabilizing nicely.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 27, 2012, 10:59
No I only watch the elite teams play, West Indies and Bangladesh all the way for me.

Okeedokes :-)
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Post by: sublimit on November 27, 2012, 11:03
No I only watch the elite teams play, West Indies and Bangladesh all the way for me.

Minor counties cricket is where its at.       Or 20/20 Varsity matches.   
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: sublimit on November 27, 2012, 11:14
Eventually Bangladesh will have a decent team,  they need to stick at it.     
Might even match India and Pakistan one day..     O0
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 27, 2012, 13:05
"@dawn_com: #PCB to appoint batting coach after #India tour: report http://t.co/trz11Pxp #Pakistan #cricket"
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Zam on November 28, 2012, 06:51
Rams and Zams boys took a hell of a beating.   ;D

I hope Broad is dropped for the next game and Bresnan brought back also.
Sepoy mutiny thawrted by British Raj at the 2nd Battle of another ridiculous pitch.
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Post by: Zam on November 28, 2012, 07:02
SA and Aus.. that was a great 4 and 5th days. I hope we get to see a proper WACA pitch, my fav cricket pitch.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 28, 2012, 07:24
SA and Aus.. that was a great 4 and 5th days. I hope we get to see a proper WACA pitch, my fav cricket pitch.

Yeah, it was awesome :-) Why your fav Zam?
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Post by: sublimit on November 28, 2012, 10:41
Indeed a very fine pitch that.        Not as good as a Wankhede sticky though IMO. 

This one a neat over by the Legendary Dennis Lillee at Perth.   Works over Viv Richards nicely.
1976 Viv Richards vs Dennis Lillee WACA PERTH - RARE VIDEO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t51RjEpw8E0#)

Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 28, 2012, 11:23
It's bad enough that I know a little about cricket, how the funk does the leader of the stoners know about it?

Test cricket is stoner heaven, dude :-D
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 28, 2012, 11:29
Indeed a very fine pitch that.        Not as good as a Wankhede sticky though IMO. 

This one a neat over by the Legendary Dennis Lillee at Perth.   Works over Viv Richards nicely.

Good to know.

Fantastique! I enjoyed that - Viv Richards' one cool cat - and that ATTITUDE from Lillee WAWAWEEWA - well bowled, and that kick at the stumps, badass motherf*cker :-D
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Post by: ram on November 28, 2012, 12:39
Roy Fredericks, WACA, world series. The best knock on that ground.

George Dobell invited me to meet him tomorrow :wave
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 28, 2012, 15:27
George Dobell invited me to meet him tomorrow :wave

I saw that, very very cool :-D #Win
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 28, 2012, 16:18
"Test Cricket is clearly the ultimate form of the game, but International Boards must recognise this

The past week has seen two fantastic Test matches played to a conclusion. In one, a team who hadn’t been given a prayer in foreign conditions comprehensively outplayed their hosts, on a pitch they had attempted to prepare to their own advantage. In the other, the certainty of victory with a day and a half to go was defied by a fantastic rearguard defensive effort to keep the hopes of series victory alive. Captivating, enthralling, mesmerising. The ebb and flow of Test cricket makes it unparalleled, arguably by any sport in the world, but certainly in terms of cricket’s different formats."

"http://battingforhours.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/test-cricket-is-clearly-the-ultimate-form-of-the-game-but-international-boards-must-recognise-this/"
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on November 28, 2012, 16:42
Or 20/20 Varsity matches.

Hell yes  :win

Ram you're meeting Dobell?  How come?  Please go off on a typical ram style rant  ;D
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Post by: ram on November 28, 2012, 16:46
It was a twitter exchange and being a testmatchsofa listener, he responded.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/586691.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/586691.html)

Both of us will be at that match tomorrow.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 08:38
"@deanpaul438: @TestMatchSofa Vetori, Hearath, Kallis and Sachin now the last four players left after making their debuts in the 80s or 90s. #cricket"
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 09:28
"Ponting to retire after Perth Test"

http://m.espncricinfo.com/s/showPage.do?siteId=75529&pageId=News&storyNo=594213&newsDetails=true
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Zam on November 29, 2012, 10:32
Headingley my 2nd fav pitch.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 10:38
Headingley my 2nd fav pitch.

Ok, cool. I have to Google both. I am already getting SO excited ahead of tomorrow :-D and get a 'lie-in' as it only starts at 4-ish am!
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 29, 2012, 10:45
Headingley my 2nd fav pitch.
Headingley is flat as sh*t nowadays, unfortunately. It's all up to the weather overhead.

I don't really mind any type of pitch, as long as it's a result pitch. Flat 1000 run wickets kill cricket.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 11:07
Headingley is flat as sh*t nowadays, unfortunately. It's all up to the weather overhead.

I don't really mind any type of pitch, as long as it's a result pitch. Flat 1000 run wickets kill cricket.

Oh ok, good to know.

I see.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 13:33
"@SportswaveAndre: Graeme Smith says Vernon Philander looks ready for a Perth start and that Jacques Kallis is making encouraging progress ahead of the Test."
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 18:43
@SportswaveAndre is my brother BTW, guys, he's a sports journalist in SA and I love him to bits :-)

I am WAY too excited about the cricket tomorrow, and WAY too emotionally invested.. :-D #TypicalSouthAfrican.. I can't wait!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 19:00
Wonder if Kallis gonna be fit, not been on Twitter much tonight, been reading, should be some feedback out there. Part of me says hey, get used to being without JK, look to the future. De Kock's an option, no idea if he's an all rounder though. Chris Morris been mentioned via Tweet to me. And Davids was fabulous in the last 2 events I watched/heard of although...

"A flashy strokeplayer who is more accustomed to limited-overs cricket than its longer format, Henry Davids made his debut for Boland against the touring New Zealanders in 2000. With one hundred and a fifty, and 336 runs in six matches, it was an encouraging start to his career. A solid second season was followed by a run drought and his next hundred didn't come until March 2006. In early 2007 he had a brief eight-match stint for Nelson in New Zealand before hitting his straps for Cape Cobras in 2007-08 with a run of consistent scores. Davids has featured fairly regularly in the squad since then, and was picked for the inaugural Champions League Twenty20 in India in 2009."

although seems more accustomed to 'shorter format' He was born in Stellenbosch, my hometown since 1995.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 19:02
Chris Morris

http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica/content/player/439952.html

Yes, Kallis will be sorely missed, but that is life. I look forward to what the future holds #ChangeIsGood
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Post by: just some guy on November 29, 2012, 19:51
Recon if Watsom breaks down over this test it might be all she wrote for his test career

Ram who do you think for number 3

4 names doing the rounds http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/the-players-in-contention-for-pontings-place-20121129-2aih6.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/the-players-in-contention-for-pontings-place-20121129-2aih6.html)
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 29, 2012, 19:59
First, even if Kallis is on one buttock, I think he'll play. If only as a batsman. If he doesn't then the next in line plays, that is Elgar.

About Australia, twitto 3 is a fix if fit. That leaves number 4. Doolan for me. None of the others have improved enough to warrant a call up. Anyway, Punter will play tomorrow, and it could be a proper backfire if the pitch has life in it. Tendulkar's number is looming.

Geez, Callum Ferguson, Dill Hughes, and even David Hussey (who ismiddle order). Clutch at em straws. No way they get near the side, hughes might, but he's an arseclown.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 29, 2012, 20:05
I don't like Giles, so you'll not get one good word from me about Gashley. Yes he won the CC but how many good players did he buy in that time? How many good international players in LOI cricket for England? Even the Saffers have limited stocks.

He could be a success and Fliwer may have recommended him, but he's an arseclown and a pathetic joke of an international cricketer who kept Swann and Monty out for years and he bought his CC title this year. :censored.

Looking good to be the nextfull time coach, and he'll be a selector too.

Varun Chopra for 2020 opener, and Ian Westwood to debut.
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Post by: just some guy on November 29, 2012, 20:06
First, even if Kallis is on one buttock, I think he'll play. If only as a batsman. If he doesn't then the next in line plays, that is Elgar.

About Australia, twitto 3 is a fix if fit. That leaves number 4. Doolan for me. None of the others have improved enough to warrant a call up. Anyway, Punter will play tomorrow, and it could be a proper backfire if the pitch has life in it. Tendulkar's number is looming.

Geez, Callum Ferguson, Dill Hughes, and even David Hussey (who ismiddle order). Clutch at em straws. No way they get near the side, hughes might, but he's an arseclown.

Doolan or bring Rob Q back for mind
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 20:08
First, even if Kallis is on one buttock, I think he'll play. If only as a batsman. If he doesn't then the next in line plays, that is Elgar.

About Australia

Tendulkar's  number is looming.

I hope so :-) even one-buttocked Kallis a sight for sore eyes! Don't know Elgar at all, would love to get to know him.

Don't know any of the names mentioned, again would love to get to know.

Yeah, he has to do the Ponting thing. Started his bio, but got sidetracked, awesome story though. Visiting India & attending matches a dream of mine for sure.
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Post by: ram on November 29, 2012, 20:12
Doolan or bring Rob Q back for mind
Keep Quiney till the Ashes, at least the English fans would be happy. He's a backup, and he failed miserably on two of the flattest wickets, he really hasn't earnt his chance if he stays.
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Post by: ram on November 29, 2012, 20:16
Yeah I was shocked he got it to be honest, aren't there more dynamic (one day) coaches out there that could have got the job?
What we can't forget was the circumstances in which Flower was hired. He was a hurried fit, not a researched selection, and KP wanted Flower out (and Pietersen's still to be knighted for removing the sh*tweasel Moores). Gashley might be the man, who knows,but I'd be happy to say he'll be crap.
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Post by: ram on November 29, 2012, 20:21
But he'd inspire the greatest efforts in that.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 20:23
Aus v SA in 5 & half hours :-D I might not sleep at ALL tonight #excited
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 20:31
6 hours until it starts here. Stupid WA and it's bloody short time difference, get this thing played in the proper part of Australia not the european time zone part.  :P

You gonna watch BYOP? So, is it bring your own party? Cos I'm well able for that. Although the 'Silver State' does not require.. #ParteeCentral
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 20:34
6 hours until it starts here. Stupid WA and it's bloody short time difference, get this thing played in the proper part of Australia not the european time zone part.  :P

Are we same time zone??? Longitude's the decider, right?
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 20:36
Hmm I might watch a little during the ad breaks of the NFL game.

Yeah haven't been to the Silver State for 6 months  :-[, need to update my location, otherwise those poor stalkers will never find me. 8)

NFL.. OMG..

No worries, I'll let them know on your behalf :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 20:48
I've been told that NFL is actually quite tough, and am more than open to accepting that, but it's pretty alien to me..

;-)
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 21:30
It can be tough, although it was tougher in the past.

So RSA could lose their number 1 ranking if they don't perform in this test match. Would be the shortest regin at #1 if they get beat, got to be pretty embarrassing should that happen  :P

Ok, interesting.

I would hardly describe being ranked World #1 at anything as embarrassing, no matter how long ??? But yes, it's at stake. But competitiveness is important for the health of any sport :-) so I would.hate them to lose it, but you know #ILoveCricket
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 21:30
;-D
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 21:31
As long as both teams put up a good fight.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 21:44
Yeah it would be nice if both teams could lose though  ;D ;D ;D

Lord no, I detest losing, and the only way I know that I do love sport is the fact that I still feel semi-non-sh*t after my team lost if it was a tight competition - anything less, I want to go out, drink a bottle of brandy, and beat up nerds and old ladies #TrueStory
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 02:47
Which Aussie bowler is getting a sick note this test?

Is Pattison (?) still out?
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Post by: just some guy on November 30, 2012, 04:31
woke up early - super 4 am could not sleep, cleared snow watched some cricket.

Starc and hasting were bowling sh*t, then shower Mitch wozers form, and now Starc rips the head off SA and I missed it  :'(
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 04:53
woke up early - super 4 am could not sleep, cleared snow watched some cricket.

Starc and hasting were bowling sh*t, then shower Mitch wozers form, and now Starc rips the head off SA and I missed it  :'(

:-D Sucks, hey? Wish I was rather shoveling snow instead of this!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 04:54
I don;t think he's playing in this test. Wow Kallis is playing and will soon be at the crease.

Yeah, we were both excited about that. Lasted about 5 seconds...
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 05:37
Holy shizzballs!
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 08:06
Thank f*ck for Faf.
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Post by: just some guy on November 30, 2012, 08:30
Thank f*ck for Faf.

TFFaF  :D
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 08:41
TFFaF  :D

He he awes!
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Post by: AG on November 30, 2012, 09:01
6 hours until it starts here. Stupid WA and it's bloody short time difference, get this thing played in the proper part of Australia not the european time zone part.  :P

I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
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Post by: just some guy on November 30, 2012, 09:04
Gone
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Post by: AG on November 30, 2012, 09:06
and Aussies are in   :)
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Post by: ram on November 30, 2012, 09:12
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
I do read this thread occasionally you know   :P
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 30, 2012, 09:14
Golden gozza, flip off Cowan. Now to get the overrated horsesh*te Warner.

I don't read this thread during live cricket
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on November 30, 2012, 09:14
Ed C Gone
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Post by: AG on November 30, 2012, 09:15
ah - you are a funny guy ram.

and just to prove that I am watching ... not a great start for the Ausslies.  1/3 isnt good   (though a 4 just as I am writing this)
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Post by: just some guy on November 30, 2012, 09:16
Watto late cut  ;D
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:22
Sorry, AG, but I've ordered 4 wickets before end of day... :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:23
Now to get the overrated horsesh*te Warner.

That's who I've ordered next too... :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:24
Ok so we got the high 5 emoticon - evil emoticon is next....
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Post by: AG on November 30, 2012, 09:25
Sorry, AG, but I've ordered 4 wickets before end of day... :-D

good luck with that  :P
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:26
good luck with that  :P

Jissis, I'll be posting pics of me doing back flips if that happens!
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: AG on November 30, 2012, 09:27
hmm - might be worth the 4 wickets to see that  ;D
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:29
High five AG classic.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 30, 2012, 09:30
Ugh, both of you get a room. And take a camera with thee.

Anyway,  South Africa's batting is braindead. Which makes them perfect candidates to import for India.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: AG on November 30, 2012, 09:35
punter coming in now?
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:35
WOOOOP!
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Post by: AG on November 30, 2012, 09:35
nope - night watchman
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:38
Ugh, both of you get a room. And take a camera with thee.

Anyway,  South Africa's batting is braindead. Which makes them perfect candidates to import for India.

Pension fund taken care of right there...

Yeah, whatsup with that! TFFFaF! When's India's next test, tomorrow? Yeah, disappointing stuff from them, couldn't believe my eyes.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on November 30, 2012, 09:38
Clarke just trolled Australia  :D
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Post by: ram on November 30, 2012, 09:39
Whatta softcock bastard Ponting is.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:49
Clarke just trolled Australia  :D

Saw that, very cute.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 30, 2012, 09:49
Pension fund taken care of right there...

Yeah, whatsup with that! TFFFaF! When's India's next test, tomorrow? Yeah, disappointing stuff from them, couldn't believe my eyes.
Could't believe that India was sh*t? Why?
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:49
"@ESPNcricinfo: Four debutants, no Shakib but there's no stopping Bangladesh. They thump West Indies by seven wickets http://t.co/bX83mJuv #BangvWI"

Shall we just go ahead & post all cricket stuff under here?
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:51
Could't believe that India was sh*t? Why?

Every single time I've watched them play the last few years they were amazing. Ok, I might not have seen many :-) have they been sh*t for a long time?
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 09:52
Could't believe that India was sh*t? Why?

Plus, they're my 2nd faves, a fan never wants to believe seeing their faves lose :-D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 30, 2012, 10:03
Every single time I've watched them play the last few years they were amazing. Ok, I might not have seen many :-) have they been sh*t for a long time?
Amazing? When was this?

They're a pathetic excuse of a team. I won't go on about the problems, there are far too many to list, and some are not even envisageable.
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Post by: sublimit on November 30, 2012, 10:08
Every single time I've watched them play the last few years they were amazing. Ok, I might not have seen many :-) have they been sh*t for a long time?

Well, no Laxman, no Dravid, Tendulkar completly out of form so the batting is pretty ordinary now.   The bowlers look reasonable though.   
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 10:08
Amazing? When was this?

They're a pathetic excuse of a team. I won't go on about the problems, there are far too many to list, and some are not even envisageable.

I guess a very very long time ago.

I see.
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Post by: ram on November 30, 2012, 10:22
Well, no Laxman, no Dravid, Tendulkar completly out of form so the batting is pretty ordinary now.   The bowlers look reasonable though.   
If only. Who's our third seamer? So good that when one broke down the third spinner had to be called in, and the third spinner has long since lost his worth as a test quality bowler.

Basically, 2 spinners and seamers are international quality, and one spinner among, Ashwin, them needs to spin the ball again. Long gone are the days when Venkatapathi Raju, Sunil Joshi and Ramesh Powar were fourth spinners. To think that Venkat, Prasanna, Bedi and Chandrashekhar were once around at the same time.

Batsmen look far better, Bist, Rahane, and even Rohit, Mukund and Badri are there. But hooha Yuvraj has to be picked. Saha deserves a look in, if only he weren't challenging directly the captain incompetent for his spot.
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Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 14:30
Ok, so it's clear, it's all sh*t. But I still can't want to see that sh*t at 4 am tomorrow morning.

It's Friday, have a good one, peeps!
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on November 30, 2012, 19:05
What an arseclown Monga is. Gee, let's call back Gundappa Vishwanath and see the legend struggle playing with a walking stick.

It may give the tit an excuse to write another fluff piece, but his continued presence is now an impediment to the team. 39 is just a bridge too far to allow another time to recover the form, and it's as bad as it has been. India can cope without this Tendulkar.

And if anyone compares Tendulkar's lack of form to Kohli's, well that's just funny.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 01, 2012, 04:11
Cheers for the woof
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Post by: kabloemski on December 01, 2012, 06:43
"@OfficialCSA: SA Bowlers stats: 3/44 for Robbie P,  4/40 for Steyn, Morkel 1/19 & Philander 2/55. #PureProtea"

Now hope to see some good batting.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 01, 2012, 06:44
Seems both South Africa and Australia are waiting until they've lost 6 batsmen before they start scoring runs. It's an interesting tactic.

Hmmm, if interesting is a synonymn for k*k.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 02, 2012, 09:20
"@KevinMcCallum: Two reasons why SA didn't declare: Warner and Clarke."
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Post by: kabloemski on December 02, 2012, 09:22
So who else is loving the cricket?
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 04:20
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-south-africa-2012/content/image/594771.html

Ponting...
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Post by: just some guy on December 03, 2012, 05:42
Up to Hussey and Clarke to make some runs again
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 03, 2012, 05:44
To get to 250?
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 05:54
136/4 doesn't look good for Aus
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 06:01
Ponting...
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 06:01
I'm going to kick this app in its nutsack.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 06:17
"@tmsproducer: Steve Finn has declared himself fit and available for the Third Test after coming through a net season at Eden Gardens. #bbccricket"
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 03, 2012, 06:32
Finn has been fit for a week now, and he will play the next test ahead of Broad.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 06:35
Ah ok cool
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 07:08
I'm not a big fan of celebrating prematurely but

"@FirdoseM: South Africa will retain the No.1 ranking on @markb46's birthday. Sure he couldn't have asked for a better gift #ausvsa"
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 07:14
"@the_sillypoint: The biggest lost margin for Oz against Saffers is by an innings & 129 runs in 1970 at Kingsmead. Pollock scored brilliant 274
#ausvsa"
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 07:58
Jeez...
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 07:59
...reckon I can pop the cork so long :-)
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 03, 2012, 08:03
South Africa had won this yesterday. This has long been a formality.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 08:16
Seriously? Don't think there was any chance of Aus comeback?
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 03, 2012, 08:25
No.

Highest successful chase is 418. 632 is a mile away.

And, far as I can see, no team has batted out two uninterrupted days in the history of non timeless tests to save a match.

Australia had long since lost due to a pathetic bowling effort that would've seen them struggle to get selected ahead of Rubel.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 08:34
Australia had long since lost due to a pathetic bowling effort that would've seen them struggle to get selected ahead of Rubel.

Ah I see.

Yeah they looked a bit dejected very early on, I hate seeing that. WTF is Rubel...
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 08:36
Who was that chase for 418 again? Pretty sure I saw that stat somewhere recently.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 08:58
"@CastleLagerSA: YES! "The Steyn Remover" grabs the last wicket to claim his 299th test wicket - just short of 300!"
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 09:10
"@tmsproducer: If India win series 3-1 they would move to third behind South Africa and Australia. England would slip to fourth place"
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 03, 2012, 09:20
haha when pigs fly.

7/418 was West Indies against Australia. Equally known for your wife would know.

Denis Lillee had more than 300 wickets after 60 tests, Murali 310 and Hadlee 299 after 60.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 09:22
:-D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 03, 2012, 11:16
Behind Border and Chappell (Greg of course), ahead of Waugh (Steve of course) for me.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 11:18
So you guys can all plan your lives properly

"@OfficialCSA: It's on to the next one! The Proteas host @BLACKCAPS this December,starting with a T20 series. Full fixtures here>> http://t.co/axN4cSMy"

http://www.cricket.co.za/fixtures.aspx?id=25

No don't thank me, it was nothing.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 03, 2012, 15:39
Where is Pointing ranked/rated all time?

For me, one of the greats of the modern era.  More consistent that Lara, more flamboyant than Tendulkar, and an utterly remorseless competitor.   His shot making was exquisite to watch, elegance, timing, and sheer class, off both front and back foot.  His 156 in the Old Trafford test in the 2005 Ashes is one of, if not the greatest innings I have ever watched.  As a batsman alone, I think he's in the top 5 Australians - alongside Bradman, Trumper, Border,and Chappell. 

As a captain, he is ranked far lower.  Early on, he was able to rely on the team to score masses of runs, and then simply thrown the ball to McGrath and Warne.  When they retired, along with a host of other big names, he has had to become far more pro-active as a captain and although he initially struggled, I do think he probably deserves a fair bit of credit for helping ease the transition onto Clarke, and the successful integration into the Australian team of their up and coming youngsters. 
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Post by: ram on December 03, 2012, 15:54
For me, one of the greats of the modern era.  More consistent that Lara, more flamboyant than Tendulkar, and an utterly remorseless competitor.   His shot making was exquisite to watch, elegance, timing, and sheer class, off both front and back foot.  His 156 in the Old Trafford test in the 2005 Ashes is one of, if not the greatest innings I have ever watched.  As a batsman alone, I think he's in the top 5 Australians - alongside Bradman, Trumper, Border,and Chappell. 
Tis a disservice to Woodfull and Ponsford for mine.

I'd think him behind Lara and Tendulkar (and even Kallis). At his prime,he was a :censored treat to watch, but he had the best ahead of him and never had to face the best attack. Tendulkar at his hitting prime (mid to late 90s) smashed it all over. Then he had back and elbow injuries, something that Ponting never had, till 2009 (from Roach) and then we know what happened.
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Post by: sublimit on December 04, 2012, 11:18
I dont think you can compare Ponting to the attacking brilliance of Lara - for me that guy has more batting talent than anybody since Bradman.   Punter a hell of a player though to be fair.

Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: sublimit on December 04, 2012, 11:28
Behind Border and Chappell (Greg of course), ahead of Waugh (Steve of course) for me.

Dunno,  AB only had 4 shots but was dogged,  Chappel was class.        I'd probably go with Ponting over those despite him not doing so well against England.   Steve Waugh owned English bowlers the whole time and is kind of like Border. 
We probably need Aussie input for the definitive answer.

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Post by: ram on December 04, 2012, 11:36
Border isn't the within an arse of the most entertaining, but he effective. In the end, he scored the runs, and not softcock runs like Ian Bell, and that's what counts. Border's teams versus Waugh's teams is a huge difference. He was often the sole hope for the Aussies in the 80s, they had Graeme Wood play 50 tests, that's a measure of their crapulence then.

Dean Jones, Graeme Wood and Boon/Wessels and some random opener from John Dyson to Wayne Phillips.

Waugh came in at 5, after Taylor/Slater/Hayden/Langer, Ponting, his crap brother.
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on December 04, 2012, 20:08
Cricket tomorrow yay! Almost forgot! Thanks to Froomie for reminding me!
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Post by: kabloemski on December 04, 2012, 20:09
India better not f*ck this one up too.
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Post by: froome19 on December 05, 2012, 07:02
Monty still looks our key bowler.
Finn will be dangerous though and does not really matter if we pick Bell or Bairstow as they are both as bad as each other :P
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Post by: kabloemski on December 05, 2012, 07:24
@FirdoseM: Redevelopment at Australian grounds. Why it reminds me of the 2010 World Cup. http://t.co/Ze334wCA (http://t.co/Ze334wCA) #cricket #ausvsa"

"It also means the WACA will not be at risk of substituting its “unique” pitch, as Lillee called it, while other Australian grounds like the Adelaide Oval are moving towards drop-in pitches.

Australian Rules Football, the winter sport, is the moneymaker in these parts and often shares grounds with cricket, the summer sport. It’s because of the popularity of the AFL and the demand for more seats that stadiums are expanding.

http://blogs.espncricinfo.com/tourdiaries/archives/2012/12/_dennis_lillee.php#more (http://blogs.espncricinfo.com/tourdiaries/archives/2012/12/_dennis_lillee.php#more)

I loved the stadium, it looked awesome. My list of dreams just got a +1 for sure. Oh and SuperSport Park has a pool on its main stand.. I would love to! My old uni friend in Jozi is a sports fan like me, and loves cricket, she said next int test there I should come over & we'll go - amped beyond belief.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 05, 2012, 07:26
Monty still looks our key bowler

He's also funny & highly entertaining - that alone should justify his spot in the side - nice not only to see KP's surliness.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 05, 2012, 08:37
Sachin gets to 50, first time he's done that since January.  Come on England, don't let them off the hook here...a couple more quick wickets would be very nice indeed, very important final session.  If India can get through it more or less unscathed, SRT will be nearing a hundred and the Indian confidence will grow.   If England can get another 2/3 wickets, then they'll be very happy with their day's work...  Personally, I'm hoping for the latter!
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Post by: kabloemski on December 05, 2012, 08:56
If England can get another 2/3 wickets, then they'll be very happy with their day's work...  Personally, I'm hoping for the latter!

Game ON :-D
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Post by: kabloemski on December 05, 2012, 09:39
76 not bad for Sachi.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 05, 2012, 10:59
We're fliped
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Post by: ram on December 05, 2012, 11:38
You overestimate India's bowling. Ishant Sharma
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 05, 2012, 14:05
Saw him bowl at Lord's last time they toured here.  The ball he dismissed KP with was an absolute snorter and he bowled like a dream... for one short spell only though  ;D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 05, 2012, 14:09
Since then gash is a compliment.
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Post by: ram on December 05, 2012, 17:11
That the Indians' weakness is pace (as showcased today, though not mint against spin) and Broad or Bresnan could actually hit the cut strip at a pace superior to a county dobber. Logical not to pick him for the first test, definite pick for the second.
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Post by: ram on December 05, 2012, 17:29
And his slip fielding?
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Post by: ram on December 05, 2012, 17:37
Missed Trotts' catch today?

Was logical not to pick him then, would be unreasonable not to now.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 05, 2012, 18:00
He's not the best, but he's okay. England have no slip fielders really.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 06, 2012, 07:33
"@mohanstatsman: Alastair Cook 410* runs - the most by an English captain in a series in India. Ted Dexter made 409 runs during the 1961/62 series #IndvsEng"
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Post by: kabloemski on December 06, 2012, 09:48
Um. The umpire's decision. Head shake then finger up? Weird.
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Post by: ram on December 06, 2012, 10:16
Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Um. The umpire's decision. Head shake then finger up? Weird.
He's Tucker and he's a New South Welshman. None else to be said.
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Post by: ram on December 06, 2012, 10:33
Indian Dear diary Day 2-
Thank goodness for such a good shag. England really know how to flip us in the arse when hotting up. And it was with non sweaty Cook.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 06, 2012, 11:05
Yeah, very disappointing, lacklustre all round. Going to pray to about a 1000 gods, abstain from self loving, and hope for the best.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 06, 2012, 11:12
Tis better they lose this series. Get the crap out and really plan about how to set their team and play right instead of FIGJAMming away saying oh how exceptional our cricket is at home. The team's clueless, and it's not a sudden occurrence.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 06, 2012, 11:36
I hear what you're saying. Guess if they do crap enough for long enough it will force them to make the necessary changes, right? Still sucks, really want them to win.
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Post by: ram on December 06, 2012, 11:47
How many more years? 2011-12 should've been well enough to prove India's crapitude.

The IPL hasn't been winning us tests; maybe cappie Dhoni isn't magic man anymore. He's bloody clueless. Gambhir's sh*t, Sehwag barely ever scores, Yuvraj is not a test player, Tendulkar's too old, Dhoni's not test worthy, 2 spinners around (one considering how Ashwin is bowling) and 2 quicks. We're crap, and it had been papered over for long.

Time's moved on since we were number 1, we're now hovering barely around West Indies level, and they aren't good.
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Post by: sublimit on December 06, 2012, 11:54
Cook the youngest player ever to hit 7 k runs.    :win
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Post by: just some guy on December 06, 2012, 12:23
Phil Hughes to replace Pointing in the series vs Sri Lanka. From watching the last Ashes a couple if years ago, wasn't/isn't Hughes a walking 'wicket'?

hopefully
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Post by: kabloemski on December 06, 2012, 12:23
Wow didn't realise it's been that long.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 06, 2012, 12:24
Read about that this morning BYOP, no idea.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 06, 2012, 12:25
Quote
Cook the youngest player ever to hit 7 k runs.    :win



And he is insanely handsome. Must be a clone :-D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 06, 2012, 12:49
Cook the youngest player ever to hit 7 k runs.    :win
In less than seven years. Tendulkar took 12 years but 15 fewer innings. Says a lot about Cook.

Phil Hughes to replace Pointing in the series vs Sri Lanka. From watching the last Ashes a couple if years ago, wasn't/isn't Hughes a walking 'wicket'?
Look at the top 4 and it's 78-79 all over again.
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Post by: just some guy on December 06, 2012, 12:52
In less than seven years. Tendulkar took 12 years but 15 fewer innings. Says a lot about Cook.
Look at the top 4 and it's 78-79 all over again.

Cowan is the only guy I would pick in the top 4

weird I know

2 would not be in the team at all  ;D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 06, 2012, 12:57
Warner's not test standard; flukes a sloggy hundred.
twitto should be kept off bowling, forever. He's good enough.
Dill Hughes, have 9 men at second slip and he'll still edge it there.
Wouldn't be as pleased with Cowan as I would be as a Pommy with Compton. Latter may not have got a hundred yet, but he looks the bit in alien conditions, Dairy's century was a flat track bully written all over it.
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Post by: just some guy on December 06, 2012, 12:59
aye hughes and warner are the outs
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 06:53
"@MKPS001: If you're watching the #BBL tonight, keep an eye on the new stumps & bails which light up red when dislodged. For fan amusement. #cricket"
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Post by: froome19 on December 07, 2012, 07:01
India being humiliated.
Total domination at the moment, no other way of looking at it.
And Cook if ridiculously good :D

Post Merge: December 07, 2012, 07:02
Ok Trott out now..
Time for some KP domination ;D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 07, 2012, 07:47
Cook is brilliant, even in the way he gets out. You'd think he was 8 making that error.

Top innings though.
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Post by: ram on December 07, 2012, 08:14
His first run out in FC cricket. Unless I missed a match.

Full list
England vs India U15s
Maldon vs Swardeston in the East Anglia Premier League
Essex Sussex 2nd XI
Essex vs Leicestershire 2020
Essex Surrey ODD
England New Zealand ODI
Essex Yorkshire ODD
Essex Surrey 2020
England Lanka ODI
Essex Worcestershire ODD
today
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 08:25
"@FredBoycott: Brian Close wouldn't have been run out like Cook. He would take one in the knackers to save his wicket..  Southern Softies at it again"

He he
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 08:28
Unless I missed a match.

Now you're just being ridiculous  ;D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 07, 2012, 08:39
Now you're just being ridiculous  ;D
Well, I didn't.
"@MKPS001: If you're watching the #BBL tonight, keep an eye on the new stumps & bails which light up red when dislodged. For fan amusement. #cricket"
And there I was thinking this was just mickey taking. Big Bash takes pathetic to whole new highs.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 08:45
And there I was thinking this was just mickey taking. Big Bash takes pathetic to whole new highs.

Meant you were being ridiculous cos you never miss a match  :)

Yeah totes ridiculous, just tuned in, haven't seen them light up the Xmas lights yet, have to wait for wicket/replay   :D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 07, 2012, 08:59
Tbh, I do miss many matches. Like all of the balls bash league this year, and meaningless ODIs. Hate them.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 10:20
"@FirdoseM: CSA promote @RussellDomingo to T20 coach. Gary Kirsten still in charge of ODI and Tests. Split management - the way of the future. #cricket"
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 10:20
Tbh, I do miss many matches. Like all of the balls bash league this year, and meaningless ODIs. Hate them.

Ok
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 10:22
What would constitute meaningless ODIs to you?
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: just some guy on December 07, 2012, 10:24
What would constitute meaningless ODIs to you?

probably all of them If I guess what Ram thinks

ps warne just got smashed for 19 in the BBL but could still play test cricket in 2 weeks he says

Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 07, 2012, 10:26
What would constitute meaningless ODIs to you?
probably all of them If I guess what Ram thinks

ps warne just got smashed for 19 in the BBL but could still play test cricket in 2 weeks he says
What he says, except the World cup.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 10:29
warne just got smashed for 19 in the BBL but could still play test cricket in 2 weeks he says

"@FredBoycott: Shane Warnes comeback over yields 19 runs. More nets needed Warney. I did tell you."
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 14:26
;D ;D ;D Just seen how Cook got out  ;D ;D

Yeah he was scared of the ball - I would be too if I had such a pretty face to protect ;-P
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 14:40
Ha ha - if I had nuts they'd be bruised right about now B-Bop :-D

I used to field for my bro & his mates as a kid - game first, looks always last #ThatIsCricket ;-)
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 14:47
F*ck no - irritating baby sisters who wanted to hang with the cool kids had to do the grunt work - no worries though, I've still got a pair of safe hands on me 'til this day ;-)
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 07, 2012, 17:29
So far this series, Cook has batted for over 26 hours - mental and amazing all in one!  Fingers crossed that Prior and Swann can keep going tomorrow morning and give England a lead of near 300...
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 17:56
Fingers crossed that Prior and Swann can keep going tomorrow morning and give England a lead of near 300...

No way, India for prezident all the way ;-)
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Post by: ram on December 07, 2012, 18:28
Well the only ones who elected this team president was the pimply poo party post partition land.

The match is out of reach, and if anyone flipping mentions 2001 again.... We had Laxman and Dravid, now we have Yuvraj and Doughnut.

Don't think either partnership and innings will last long for England tomorrow, but we've lost this.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 07, 2012, 18:50
Crazier things have happened, still feel excited about it. I didn't expect them to take the amount that they did today, I was very pleased actually, was glad to see some wickets. Cook was a highlight - wish he got his 200 first, but that run-out was just too funny.
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Post by: ram on December 07, 2012, 19:05
No, not many crazier things have happened. I'm fairly certain of that, especially with the Indian batting. The win was long gone and a draw is highly unlikely.

And it just shows how low expectations are if that was a decent day. The first wicket fell after the lead was taken, and apart from the bollock challenged Bell, every batsman contributed. 3 wickets fell in the final session, by which time England had a fifty run lead and needed quick runs. That's nigh on Bangladesh. Day 3 was the most listless I've seen for ages (yes, I've forgotten that Australia tour and England, when?). Might as well have been last year's tour. That was an embarrassment, and it's time to flip the sh*t out. Pathetic effort.

6/500 odd sums it up perfectly how utterly sh*te bowling was, and the batting that preceded it.

A lead of 230-240 would require India to bat 4 or more sessions to be safe. 120 overs on a pitch that will be playing it's ninth day of cricket?

We're fliped, fliped like John Terry did Wayne Bridge's missus.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 08, 2012, 04:03
Don't think either partnership and innings will last long for England tomorrow
QED
Title: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on December 08, 2012, 05:15
"@mohanstatsman: 50-stand for the first wkt btw Gambhir-Sehwag for the 25th time. Only Greenidge-Haynes have more 50 stands (26) #IndvsEng"
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 08, 2012, 05:31
They're still crap. Flat track bullies to the max.

England's bowling was unbelievably sh*te.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: kabloemski on December 08, 2012, 06:30
They're still crap.

Luckily I know little enough about cricket to still enjoy it  ;D
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 08, 2012, 07:20
Tis mild, and this Indian team deserves it. Anyway, all this is my diluted rants.

May rate them behind Taylor and Slater. Simply because they've it easy early on. What made Laxman better than his record, he played crunch innings in pressure situations on spinning tracks.

but we've lost this.
QED^2
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Post by: kabloemski on December 08, 2012, 09:04
"@the_sillypoint: This is the longest (14 overs) that Monty has bowled in this series without taking a wicket. #indveng"
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Post by: Archieboy on December 08, 2012, 10:56
Chapeau Ashwin, great effort. Also nice to see the fans stick with their team.
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 08, 2012, 11:24
Bottles, I demand bottles! Can't let Kolkatta soften up.

Congratulations to England. By far the better side. Well played, deserved.

Shambolic from India. Just hope ever so slightly that this will get some dead wood out and see some deserving bats come through. Completely different kettle of fish is the bowling. Pankaj, Dinda, whoever it is to bolster that, still no spinners (Harmeet's out of his depths).

And Ojha's now a chucker (deteriorated terribly this series).
Title: Re: Cricket- Mini Curry v Pommy
Post by: ram on December 09, 2012, 05:58
I've never been a Jai Hind, Bharat Zindabad or Jerusalem singing fan, and usually haven't gone apesh*t after one defeat, but if these arse flip performances aren't a kick up the nads for the board and the management, then nothing can be. This is the worst stretch of non suspicious non match fixing performances I've seen from India.

I don't expect Australia to be as good as England here (not even convinced they'll win the test series when they tour here next year), but we just can't let another Amol Muzumdar happen, and Rahane and Tiwary are fast becoming that (and to a lesser extent even Rohit Sharma). There's just not enough quality to let two fine young players not to play. Yuvraj, Tendulkar, Gambhir/Sehwag and Dhoni, those are four/five passengers there, who at the least should be sh*tting bricks about their place in the team. At least Yuvraj is likely to be gone for the next match.

There's the batting depth, there's a back up keeper who's actually a better keeper than the current one and is in good form too. The bowling, that's just another kettle of fish.

Jeez, Parwinder Awana being spake off :o Not the worst around, tbh.
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Post by: ram on December 09, 2012, 11:20
Bloody hell these away tours are getting embarrassing for India.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 10, 2012, 14:08
Cracking (although admittedly T20) match brewing between Windies and Bagladesh.  The latter are currently 46/0 in 4 overs chasing 198 to win after Samuels went banana's.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 10, 2012, 14:29
Yeah I was watching that, some nice sixes etc but nah too much TV.. sorry to miss it though.
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Post by: ram on December 11, 2012, 01:48
3 new members in the squad. Garbagean has finally been dropped, Yuvraj has finally been dropped and Zaheer dropped. Awana, Chawla and Jadeja were selected.

Dhoni to be monitored and it won't be a surprise if the selectors have got Tendulkar a get out plan.
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Post by: ram on December 11, 2012, 02:15
In between Mumbai and Kolkatta. Should be the case. And turners are far better than flat belters.
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Post by: sublimit on December 11, 2012, 11:05
Ram what kind of wicket(?)/pitch will it be. On Sky; Botham, Gower, Bumble and some people who I don't know(one had an Indian/Pakistani name, which escapes me), said that India might make it a turner(or something along that line). I assume by 'turn' they mean one that helps the bowlers?

"Turner"pitch refers to the spin bowlers are able to get the ball to change direction better on it when it hits the surface.  Hopefully that will help Swan, Panasar and Patel.   
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Post by: ram on December 11, 2012, 11:15
If Patel bowls we're going decently, but I'm guessing we'll be fliped by then. Don't think he'll be needed with the other two there.
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Post by: sublimit on December 11, 2012, 11:18
If Patel bowls we're going decently, but I'm guessing we'll be fliped by then. Don't think he'll be needed with the other two there.
Yeah true,  but I would like to see what he could do with the ball.    Not sure he's worth his place as batter alone though he looks to have some talent in that department.
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Post by: ram on December 11, 2012, 11:22
To be honest, I don't think he'll play a part in any of the NZ tour. He's just much better than Bairstow and Morgan against spin. Seemed very comfortable in his 30 odd innings.
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Post by: sublimit on December 11, 2012, 11:31
 Patel is a useful player in these conditions for sure,     I hope Bell end is dropped and Bairstow is given a go against NZ.       

Bell too unreliable for such an experienced player IMO.

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Post by: kabloemski on December 11, 2012, 11:33
Jeez BYOP you're worse than me with the 20 questions now.. Me likey!
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Post by: ram on December 11, 2012, 11:34
So India are risking a bowler friendly pitch in the hope that they can get England out in 2 innings and score more runs than England in that time? If India were 2-1 up then would they make a batting pitch?
Dhoni has been stating that he wants a spinning pitch to get the toss out of the equation. Though it may seem biased (it's not meant to be), it seems his intentions are true to the word. Sure, he wanted to prey on England's weakness, but still better than a 3/900 pitch.

Of course it would've been a flat pan if the series was India 2-1 England. That's usual,

Quote
Also all the pitches that don't get used are they different from the one that gets used? Also how long in advance does the pitch have to be picked before the game, is it the morning the game starts or does ot have to be picked before the series starts?
Yup, used pitches are different. The fifth day of a test always is the most conducive for spin bowling. Now what the curators have done for Mumbai and Kolkatta was to prepare used pitches. The used pitches were played on in the Ranji trophy (Mumbai v Railways and Bengal v Rajasthan) so they were a bit worn by the time the match started.

Usually a pitch is announced a few days or even a few weeks before the match. In case of Kolkatta, 3 pitches were produced and the one used for the test was announced only a couple of days prior to the test.
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Post by: ram on December 11, 2012, 11:44
Patel is a useful player in these conditions for sure,     I hope Bell end is dropped and Bairstow is given a go against NZ.       

Bell too unreliable for such an experienced player IMO.
Aye, never liked the Bellend. Only good for scoring soft runs.
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Post by: froome19 on December 12, 2012, 12:29
Malinga 6 for 7 today..

Ridiculous figures

And then they only need to chase down 6 to win.. :fp
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Post by: ram on December 12, 2012, 12:49
Hey Ram, who picks the squad/team in (test)cricket? During the last test they showed some Indian guy in jeans speaking to Dhoni and the Indian manager on the field, and said he was head selector. So the manager doesn't pick the squad/team? What about match tactics, is that the manager or selectors job?
Topical question considering the ongoings in the past day. Indian cricket has returned to being controversy mania.

The guy you saw speaking sternly to Dhoni and Fletcher (coach, not manager) was Sandeep Patil. He's the chairman of selection committee. The selectors go around the country watching Indian (or their respective countries') probable players. In India there are five selectors, one from each zone (North, South, Central, East and West). Patil is the chairman of selectors and is from the west zone. These five selectors are the sole ones to select the team........usually.

But being Indian cricket, it has to be filled with shenanigans. Seems the selectors wanted Dhoni out as captain (at the least) post the Australia tour according to Mohinder Amarnath (83 WC winner and selector during the Aus tour, who was supposed to become the chairman after Shrikkanth left). It was a unanimous decision apparently, but Srinivasan, the BCCI pres, overruled it after it was seen that the Pres can do so according to the some obscure rule in the BCCI constitution. Dhoni stayed on........ and we're here. Why? One can only assume the marketability of his IPL team would be nowhere near the same if Dhoni weren't captain. There's no reason for the Pres to stick his neck out for the captain's sake.

Duncan Fletcher is only the coach of the team. He is there to work with the team on tactics, on coaching and those facets only comprising the first team. He doesn't jet set around the country watching players so is only dealing with the players selected for him. Flower is part of the selection committee so he has a say in selection. Not saying either way is correct.

The manager in Indian cricket is the guy who manages the tour; the flight booking, the hotel arrangements, equipment at the tour. Doesn't interfere with the in-team activity.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 12, 2012, 18:37
So crickey tomorrow :-D how amped am I :-D All is forgiven, it's a new day, let's see what it will bring - even the slightest chance of India performing? The prezidency is at stake after all..
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Post by: ram on December 12, 2012, 19:19
Won't hold my breath, there's extreme discord among the Indian team (not administration), and we've gotten rid of our best fast bowler.
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Post by: froome19 on December 12, 2012, 19:22
Yep was wondering about the logic (or lack of it) behind that?
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Post by: ram on December 12, 2012, 19:23
Age thing. He's said to be older than he is.

Finn's injured, so Bresssssss' back. Half a chance, unless it's flipping Onions.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 12, 2012, 19:29
there's extreme discord among the Indian team (not administration)

we've gotten rid of our best fast bowler.

For reals?

Um.. who?
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Post by: ram on December 12, 2012, 19:33
Yeah, worst fallout in ages. Almost as bad as '75. If reports are near true, Dhoni's lost control.

Only one fast bowler's been dropped ;)
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Post by: kabloemski on December 12, 2012, 19:34
That's so sh*tty, what's it about, team selection etc?

Ha ha just TELL ME PLEASE :-D
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Post by: ram on December 12, 2012, 19:41
No, when the team plays as crappily as India, blame gets spread. It has been happening for a year, and even longer, with Sehwag's fitness doubts then Gambhir's need of attention whoring. The 'we'll see you at home' challenges were spewed and when you lose at home it spilled. Dhoni's lost control of the team, and it's a search for Graeme Smith now. Not everyone's him though, we'll likely get Waqar Younis.

Zaheer
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Post by: kabloemski on December 12, 2012, 19:52
Was Younis a cr*ppy captain?

Thank you :-)
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Post by: ram on December 12, 2012, 20:05
Yes, discord in the team then
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Post by: froome19 on December 12, 2012, 22:18
Yeh media playing down the impact of Finn's injury but it is bad news.
Bresnan is a big step down in quality and even considering the current quality (or lack of it :D) of the Indian batting I would expect them to get a few of Bresnan on an Indian pitch.

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Post by: ram on December 13, 2012, 03:49
Bresnan belongs in the Scarborough U13s side. Powder puff.

Bangladesh would score 200 off him.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 05:12
"@mohanstatsman: Batsman dismissed most times by Ishant Sharma in Tests: Ricky Ponting, Michael Clarke & Alastair Cook 7 times each #IndvsEng"
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 06:54
"@Isam84: The Australian spin cupboard after Warne's retirement - http://t.co/W3vp6goc - shows Nathan Lyon is five away from being the most successful"

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=2;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;spanmin1=06+Jan+2007;spanval1=span;team=2;template=results;type=bowling
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 07:00
"@mspr1nt: Proteas summer squad announcement. Quiton de Kock has been called up for limited overs, will likely keep in t20s and ODIs."
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 13, 2012, 08:34
Oh ffs.  The first time England win the toss all series, and we're royally screwing this up.  Cook gets a shocker, but the rest?  Jeez...  I am Ian Bell's biggest fan and supporter, but flip me does he make  it hard sometimes.  And what the hell was Trott doing?   

As it is, thank goodness for KP who's playing an incredibly mature and sensible innings at the moment.  Here's hoping that Root can go well on debut  :tu  And is it bad that there is a part of me that hopes the Indian top order find form, but only against Bresnan - just so I never have to see his awfulness near an England shirt again? 
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 13, 2012, 08:38
In the words of TMS, England spending a long time getting themselves out for no where near enough runs.  The run rate is under 2 for the day.  Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by: ram on December 13, 2012, 08:39
It's not an easy pitch. Slooooow. Try slogging, and the team's fliped.

Trott was out but not given. Dharmasena's been crap. Root looking decent.

And don't worry, even dobbing it at 70 on this pitch but bowling straight would be enough. Had to be Onions, just had to be.

"@Isam84: The Australian spin cupboard after Warne's retirement - http://t.co/W3vp6goc (http://t.co/W3vp6goc) - shows Nathan Lyon is five away from being the most successful"

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=2;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;spanmin1=06+Jan+2007;spanval1=span;team=2;template=results;type=bowling (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=2;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;spanmin1=06+Jan+2007;spanval1=span;team=2;template=results;type=bowling)
Expected stat tbh. Without checking, I'd say Hauritz, Lyon second, Clarke third with Krejza getting a fluke 10fer somewhere and Beau Casson being the best one but having a dodgy heart.


Oh no, McGain has to be the best there...
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 09:03
In the words of TMS, England spending a long time getting themselves out for no where near enough runs.  The run rate is under 2 for the day.  Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

 ;D I'm having a glass of wine, liven things up a little  ::)
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 09:08
It's not an easy pitch. Slooooow. Try slogging, and the team's fliped.

Trott was out but not given. Dharmasena's been crap. Root looking decent.

And don't worry, even dobbing it at 70 on this pitch but bowling straight would be enough. Had to be Onions, just had to be.
Expected stat tbh. Without checking, I'd say Hauritz, Lyon second, Clarke third with Krejza getting a fluke 10fer somewhere and Beau Casson being the best one but having a dodgy heart.


Oh no, McGain has to be the best there...

Why would they be screwed if they slog it on a slow pitch?

Onions..  ???

Nice one :karen re the stats
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 09:11
Beau Casson being the best one but having a dodgy heart.

PS Really? Learnt yesterday Wasim Akram was Diabetic all along, cray.
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Post by: ram on December 13, 2012, 09:26
Casson's retired because of it.
Why would they be screwed if they slog it on a slow pitch?
Think Pietersen showed why.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 10:18
"@dawn_com: Du Plessis named South Africa T20 captain for NZ series http://t.co/yUY2fBhG #cricket"

http://dawn.com/2012/12/13/du-plessis-named-southafrica-t20-captain/
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 10:58
"@the_sillypoint: Stuard Broad ruled out of T20I series against India. Eoin Morgan to lead the side. #indveng"
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Post by: sublimit on December 13, 2012, 11:39
Bell playing like Tendulkar,  kind of a similar player but miles less class and in the same useless form.   The youngsters are doing OK, Compton not really very young but another player that should of got an earlier chance,  Root getting a go and hopefully the ginger guy Bairstow can replace Bell next time up.

I live in hope.   
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Post by: ram on December 13, 2012, 12:45
Good day, but 300 would be a very good score on this pitch. Not convinced it's a top day for India.

Bell's a lock. He's from Warwickshire.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 14:02
Damn, I just wish India could wine one in convincing fashion - or at least put up a great fight - initially SA wasn't that great at all in Aus but Faf (and even AB that one day) brought us all something to wow about - missed Ashwin's effort that day, might have qualified for something similarish? I remain optimistic, as per usual.
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Post by: ram on December 13, 2012, 14:07
Nowhere near. One match was saved the other was comfortably lost, even when Ashwin walked in.

This was the equivalent of du Plessis'
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/386496.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/386496.html)
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 14:12
Thanks for the link. Which one of the 3 was Faf - you did mean NZ?

I'm lighting all my candles & burning all my incense anyway, just in case :-P
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Post by: ram on December 13, 2012, 14:16
Gambhir's hundred.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 14:29
Oh yes of course, sorry, we were talking comeback (: Thank you.
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Post by: froome19 on December 13, 2012, 16:15
Knight reckoned that India could play this pitch very differently to how England are playing it. It seems like it is not that hard a pitch to play on but then again scoring on it is difficult. You really have to play the spinners. Considering how KP got 70 odd of 180 or so balls it is very obvious to me that it is difficult to score on this pitch. Compare the pitch and scores on one day to last test and you also see that. Sehwag and Dhoni and those type of players could have a good day if they can just hit the ball over KP style, but the more orthodox Tendulkar style players may struggle to score on a pitch with uneven bounce and which is difficult to read.
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Post by: ram on December 13, 2012, 18:16
Knight's a :censored, to be fair. His buttocks are superglued to the fence.

The orthodox should play far better than the sloggers, and Dhoni and Sehwag will likely struggle (the revelation!). This pitch isn't a hitting pitch, KP is just England's best batsman by a long distance along with Cook. Slogging will get a player in the sh*t on this pitch, it's slow as. Root showed that the orthodox can play just as well as any.

Not to mention, the orthodox players have a better technique to counter low bounce and slow pitches than the sloggers, who'll want the ball to come onto the bat at speed.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 13, 2012, 22:17
"@the_sillypoint: Mahela Jayawardene to step down from the captaincy at the end of Sri Lanka's tour of Australia. #ausvsl"
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Post by: ram on December 14, 2012, 07:59
Fantastic innings by the dependable Sehwag.

Why would anyone want Lankan captaincy? Worst job in cricket.
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Post by: froome19 on December 14, 2012, 08:00
Shame we do not have another seamer like Anderson in the team..
Will have to suffice. Sehwag plays like he is on stilts..
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 14, 2012, 10:21
Anderson, different gravy to anyone else in this match.  Pretty much anyone else in the world apart from Steyn.  God help us should he ever get injured... 
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Post by: ram on December 14, 2012, 11:08
fliped in the ass!
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Post by: sublimit on December 14, 2012, 11:47
Tendulkar came in as nightwitchman.   :-[      He's making Ian Bell look competent at the minute if thats at all possible. 
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Post by: froome19 on December 14, 2012, 11:54
Anderson, different gravy to anyone else in this match.  Pretty much anyone else in the world apart from Steyn.  God help us should he ever get injured...
Or go back to playing like he was against SA.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 14, 2012, 13:24
Dammit :-(
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Post by: ram on December 14, 2012, 14:46
India won!

















The blind 2020 world cup final against Pakistan. Top effort by our lot. Pakistan were definite favourites there.
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Post by: ram on December 14, 2012, 17:42
With plastic balls and rattles in them. Underarm toss, which was technically legal in normal cricket till Trevor Chappell.

There are three categories of blindness- B1, B2, B3. B3 is extremely fuzzy vision. B2 is nearly no sight and B1 is completely blind. Runs scored by B1 category batsmen count for double. Them succeeding is the jackpot.

I know that both Nathan Bracken and Michael Lumb have had simulated goes on blind cricket (specially designed eyewear to simulate blindness) and both struggled miserably in the B1 category.

Best bit was that the attendance for the final was 4000. Stunning effort.

Ian Bell would fit in well in the Vanuatu u15 hermaphrodite team.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 14, 2012, 23:19
Brilliant article (I think...) on the all too painful reality of Indian selection.  Ram, read it and seethe...  ;)

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/597140.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/597140.html)

Funny because it's true?
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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 03:38
Brilliant article (I think...) on the all too painful reality of Indian selection.  Ram, read it and seethe...  ;)

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/597140.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/597140.html)

Funny because it's true?
Already said that Rahane or Tiwary need to be there, Bist should be the next cab off the rack. But I have a hard time taking the author of this article (http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/story/594391.html) seriously.

Tiwary even scored a shed load against this England team in the warm up match. But hey, we have Yuvraj and Raina :win
That was a nice read.

Now I have 2 questions but maybe 1 answer will do, so if any cricket expert can help that will be great.

I sort of understand the run-out thing, like I knew Cook was out the other match because he wasn't in the 'safe area'(not the cricket term, but I don't know the cricket name for it), I'm also aware that if a batsmen was trying to score 2 runs and on the 2nd run the ball got to the wickets and hit them before he was in the safe area, he's out. But what happens when both batsmen are in the middle of the pitch and the ball hits the wicket at one end, how do they decide who's out? Is it the guy who's closet to the broken wickets/batsmen decide/bowling team decide/umpire decides?

Also I saw Warner get out yesterday, he hit the ball the other batsmen ran and was almost at the other end, the ball was thrown to the bowling end and then Warner started to run but was miles out. Did he/does he have to run because the other batter was running?
It's happened. What happens is, it depends on if the batsmen cross each other. So a batsman hits the ball and sets off, misunderstanding and so. Throw comes to the non striker's end, but the striker has already passed the non striker when the non striker decides to turn back. The striker has crossed and if the stumps at the non striker's gets broken, then the striker is out even if both run to the same end.

If there is no crossing (not just reaching the same point but actually passing each other), then the guy who is coming from that end gets out. As well as I can put it, and it's vague.

Sometimes it gets proper difficult, like this-
Bizarre Runout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36SLpqAymTE#)

The wicket has fallen, but who? In this case, the striker reached the stumps barely before Shiv. Thereby Shiv gets out. If Shiv had been barely faster with the grounding of his bat, he's safe.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 15, 2012, 04:32
;D ;D ;D ;D

What's up?

:-D I'm going to wait 'til I'm back home and can use the appropriate emoticons to properly respond to this post B-Bop..
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 15, 2012, 07:59
That was a nice read.

Now I have 2 questions but maybe 1 answer will do, so if any cricket expert can help that will be great.

I sort of understand the run-out thing, like I knew Cook was out the other match because he wasn't in the 'safe area'(not the cricket term, but I don't know the cricket name for it), I'm also aware that if a batsmen was trying to score 2 runs and on the 2nd run the ball got to the wickets and hit them before he was in the safe area, he's out. But what happens when both batsmen are in the middle of the pitch and the ball hits the wicket at one end, how do they decide who's out? Is it the guy who's closet to the broken wickets/batsmen decide/bowling team decide/umpire decides?

Also I saw Warner get out yesterday, he hit the ball the other batsmen ran and was almost at the other end, the ball was thrown to the bowling end and then Warner started to run but was miles out. Did he/does he have to run because the other batter was running?

What Ram said.  Only thing I would add - if one of the batsman starts running, the other one has no obligation to leave their crease (safe area) if they think it is a crazy run.  So if the ball had gone straight to a fielder, and therefore they know they will be run out, they can just stay still. 

If in doubt on the rules, this is always the fall back  ;)
(http://www.halesowencricketclub.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cricketasexplainedtoaforeignvisitor.jpg)
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Post by: kabloemski on December 15, 2012, 11:03
I'm only following via cricket app & bit of Twitter, unfortunately, but yay India :-)
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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 11:20
Yep, it's a pitch where one can stay in but it isn't one where one scores freely. Gambhir tried to force the issue and paid for it, Dhoni and Kohli barely took half a risk and were rewarded. Root yesterday was similar.

Good day, England barely ahead because of the series scoreline.
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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 11:32
I thought it was too slow and low to be a good pitch originally. But I was wrong, it seems a good pitch that rewards good bowling and good batting. It hasn't been easy to take wickets, India struggled and England today too. As long as it facilitates a good match, eh? Won't draw in non cricket fans though, 2 an over cricket.

I also believe that a bowling friendly pitch isn't bad, not nearly as bad as a batting paradise.

flipping tablet....typing's an arse.
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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 11:44
Aye, and test cricket is grouse as.

Except if you're Lankan, tests in 2013 for them will be even more pathetic. At least we play test cricket.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 15, 2012, 12:47
What do you expect the outcome to be Ramses?
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Post by: sublimit on December 15, 2012, 13:04
With plastic balls and rattles in them. Underarm toss, which was technically legal in normal cricket till Trevor Chappell.

There are three categories of blindness- B1, B2, B3. B3 is extremely fuzzy vision. B2 is nearly no sight and B1 is completely blind. Runs scored by B1 category batsmen count for double. Them succeeding is the jackpot.

I know that both Nathan Bracken and Michael Lumb have had simulated goes on blind cricket (specially designed eyewear to simulate blindness) and both struggled miserably in the B1 category.

Best bit was that the attendance for the final was 4000. Stunning effort.

Ian Bell would fit in well in the Vanuatu u15 hermaphrodite team.

Ian Bell would be a dedicated nightwitchman for the worst ever scoring club B3 team in blind cricket probably. 

I hope to flip he never takes up umpiring.

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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 13:11
Sagacity. Nightwitchman in the Worst club's U15 blind hermaphrodite eleven... with some trepidation.

Each blind team is made is made of B1, B2 and B3 players (4 B1 players are compulsory)

What do you expect the outcome to be Ramses?
Don't know. Too close to call now, but if England bat well the match will be a draw. They don't need to force the result.

I say it'll be a draw, without any certainty.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 15, 2012, 13:22
I say it'll be a draw, without any certainty.

Okees thanks
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Post by: Archieboy on December 15, 2012, 14:46
I thought it was too slow and low to be a good pitch originally. But I was wrong, it seems a good pitch that rewards good bowling and good batting. It hasn't been easy to take wickets, India struggled and England today too. As long as it facilitates a good match, eh? Won't draw in non cricket fans though, 2 an over cricket.

I also believe that a bowling friendly pitch isn't bad, not nearly as bad as a batting paradise.

flipping tablet....typing's an arse.

Agree with all that ram, India are due a good bowling session & who knows could be tommorow
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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 14:52
I so hope you're true, Arch. Won't be holding my breath though. I think Compton and Cook will handle the pitch better second time around. Our lot will need to be good.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 15, 2012, 14:55
Ram, is this a good test match wicket or does it favor the bowlers a bit more than the batters?

For my money, not a good test wicket.  It is too dead - hard to score on I like, but not like this.  And there is absolutely nothing in it for the bowlers, no bounce, no pace, no spin, very little sideways movement.  It may yet come to life in the last two days, but so far, I don't think it has been conducive to good cricket.  You want to encourage attacking cricket - both with the ball and the bat, and on this wicket, that isn't really possible.  Any batsman who has tried to up the pace has got themselves out, and off the quick bowlers, having a slip is virtually redundant because the pitch is so slow that they'd have to be standing in the batsman's pocket for the edge to carry to them.
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Post by: Archieboy on December 15, 2012, 14:57
Need to import some good Essex loam ;D ;D
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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 15:10
For my money, not a good test wicket.  It is too dead - hard to score on I like, but not like this.  And there is absolutely nothing in it for the bowlers, no bounce, no pace, no spin, very little sideways movement.  It may yet come to life in the last two days, but so far, I don't think it has been conducive to good cricket.  You want to encourage attacking cricket - both with the ball and the bat, and on this wicket, that isn't really possible.  Any batsman who has tried to up the pace has got themselves out, and off the quick bowlers, having a slip is virtually redundant because the pitch is so slow that they'd have to be standing in the batsman's pocket for the edge to carry to them.
It won't come to life, that's one thing I can guarantee. It'll only go lower and lower bounce wise.

I like different pitches (as long as they're not flat nothing pitches), and touring is about adjusting to conditions. That's where this England is in stark contrast to the soft 90s teams.

It's attritional, no doubt, but some of the best tests were battles of attrition in the past, and Jimmy and Ishant showed that fast bowlers can take wickets if the bowl straight.

Speaking of pockets... where is the video of Trott taking a catch in his pocket for Warwickshire?
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Post by: sublimit on December 15, 2012, 15:12
I so hope you're true, Arch. Won't be holding my breath though. I think Compton and Cook will handle the pitch better second time around. Our lot will need to be good.

I'm kind of glad that there's no review system, that makes the draw a bit more likely.        Pietersen gets frustrated on these pitches and field placings, Bell is useless apart from being good at leaving his teamates in the sh*t,  that leaves 4 batters and Prior that can hold on.   Bresnan can hold a bat sometimes but India have a decent chance for me.

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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 15:18
Yeah, but England have had four batsmen (with Prior) all series and see where that's left us. KP showed immense patience in the first innings though. Can't write him off after that.

We're getting more and more fliped each time I think of the English team. But agreed, it's still pretty even. We could yet win.....jebus
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Post by: sublimit on December 15, 2012, 15:36
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on Pietersen,    but so often he throws it away.   
he has it in him to play the long attacking innings but defending for a long period on a slowish pitch he could find it difficult if it comes to that.
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Post by: ram on December 15, 2012, 15:54
Understandable though, even though I saw Dhoni bat patiently today, I'd not be willing to say he'll do likewise in the next innings (not that Dhoni's anywhere near KP's calibre).

Aye, it's pretty much his worst type of pitch.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 15, 2012, 16:46
Bresnan has now bowled 448 deliveries in Test cricket since he last took a wicket.  His bowling average for the year is over 55, and his batting average for the year is 17.14.  WHY THE HELL IS HE ANYWHERE NEAR THE TEAM?!?!  Only explanation I can see as to why Onions can't get a game is that he must have done something to p*ss off Flower   ;)
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Post by: kabloemski on December 15, 2012, 17:40
flipping tablet....typing's an arse.

New one? What you get?
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Post by: kabloemski on December 15, 2012, 17:41
Dammit you guys are typing good stuff & my stoopid signal so crap VR keeps cutting out - loads homework for when I'm back :-P
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Post by: kabloemski on December 15, 2012, 18:22
Ha ha what is THIS ??? "@firstpostin: India win men’s world kabaddi final http://t.co/QtOvdn9r"
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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 07:29
We've never lost in kabaddi.

Good start for England. Sloooow, but good.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 16, 2012, 09:33
Ffs England.  Inevitably, they've retreated into their shells, they've gone totally defensive - fixated by the idea that they have to draw, and not bother with the win.  Consequently, they are merrily shooting themselves in not just on, but both feet, and batting like complete muppets.   >:(
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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 09:44
TBH, the match has been a defensive one. Aggression has only led to wickets falling. Won't compare it to the cock up at Adelaide which was an easy wicket to bat on.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 16, 2012, 10:34
I'm missing it, how are things looking?
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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 11:23
That's all but sealed the series. Honestly can't see India getting seven wickets quick enough. Holding both the Pataudi and Anthony de Mello trophies. Well played.
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Post by: froome19 on December 16, 2012, 12:18
I would applaud England. They have not really mucked up badly for a while now and considering this is the subcontinent that is some achievement for the team. They may be shoddy atm but scraping over the line is what matters currently. What Ojha was doing :fp , totally baffled but then again it kind of spells out to me what India have played like over the last 3 tests.
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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 12:25
What untoward did Ojha do? He didn't have a good spell, but then again, the same could be said of so many bowlers this match, including the English in the afternoon session yesterday.
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Post by: froome19 on December 16, 2012, 12:50
Was talking about his batting..ridiculous 3 of 32 when his side needed runs and could not afford to waste time :fp

A lot of fuss being made about the umpires and the whole thing is pretty farcial tbh. Cook's wicket was totally ridiculous, the ball was closer to short leg than the bat :fp
Compton's as well, was an inside edge.. though the British media dont seem to have realised that it did not make a difference anyway as he was anyways caught at slip :D
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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 12:55
I'd blame Dhoni and Fletch for that. Ojha's not that good a batsman. Should've declared before the start of play.

Umpiring has been club standard at best. DRS can only get so many right, this is pathetic.
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Post by: sublimit on December 16, 2012, 13:01
Its been a lottery with the ridiculous umpiring, some sort of review system should be compulsory IMO.   


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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 13:16
Maybe a third umpire reviewing all decisions rather than the players challenging.

Also remember reading a couple of years ago that the Eagle eye (not Hawkeye which sky uses) had upto a 40mm error in prediction of ball path. That's massive. Heat cameras are good though.
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Post by: froome19 on December 16, 2012, 13:16
Its been a lottery with the ridiculous umpiring, some sort of review system should be compulsory IMO.
In an ironic twist the Indian refusal to allow the DRS system has probably guaranteed its involvement in future tests  :)
(Well at least we can only hope so)
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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 13:20
It hasn't. I would like to see it, but I certainly won't justify the umpiring for want of DRS... It used to be that umpires getting basic decisions wrong were sh*te, now it's all DRS.

Think of Shepherd, Hair, Venkat, Bird and Peter Willey. Would they have been getting the simplest calls wrong? DRS is one, but inept umpiring is another.
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Post by: froome19 on December 16, 2012, 13:37
Thing is that DRS lessens inept umpiring to a degree, umpires can hide behind the screen which is DRS.. It used to be that DRS would highlight if umpires would get decisions wrong but now it just seems accepted for decisions to be overturned using DRS and for the decisions to be wrong.

Inept umpiring should be dealt with but DRS does lessen its impact and it is way of claiming that we are doing something to "solve" the problem. Its an easy scapegoat.
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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 14:06
Okay quite a bit to say to that...

Firstly, the system is such that the player challenges the umpire. Consider the India England with DRS with Dharmasena, Tucker, the inept version of Dar, and add Tony Hill and Doctrove too. There are a shed load of howlers in the match and series as is expected with this lot.... The players, apart from the tactical referrals, would also go for any decision to be referred. Why not? After all, the umpires aren’t proving their worth as being international standard. Why not doubt them? Two unsuccessful and Tony Hill, as he did today, makes an absolute howler after Herath (or any equivalent in the de Mello trophy series) smashes it into his pad. Will DRS reverse that?

Second-
DRS is like makeup. It can only cover the obvious blemishes made by umpires and reverse howlers. If this were 15 years ago, the English media would’ve been jumping up and down that the home umpires were crap and biased. Fair enough with that. If an umpire’s quality doesn’t matter, then I’m just as inept as anyone around. DRS would save my arse anyway.

It’s just not an excuse, the umpire of the year Dharmasena has howler after howler in Nagpur. Dar was frankly pathetic in this series, and Tucker is not an international umpire. Neither is Hill or Doctrove. They need to get better umpires or train this lot properly before hurriedly getting them into test cricket.

Third-
Will all technology for DRS be uniform? Eagle eye and hawkeye are two different ball trackers. Will their errors also be calibrated as such? It can't just all be lumped with the same standards if they don't have the same standards.

There are issues to be addressed with DRS, and as Chappelli said today- Umpiring isn’t tactical, umpiring is decision making.

DRS in its current is very tactical (which is the fault of the players, but that's the problem with them having control of it), and quite often the right decision isn’t made.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 16, 2012, 15:38
Jeez so many informative posts :-D lots of cool reading when I get back woohoo!
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Post by: kabloemski on December 16, 2012, 16:18
;D ;DSomeone needs to get a life!  :P

You said it, B-Bop! Now where can I buy one of those hmmm ???
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Post by: froome19 on December 16, 2012, 16:43
Okay quite a bit to say to that...

Firstly, the system is such that the player challenges the umpire. Consider the India England with DRS with Dharmasena, Tucker, the inept version of Dar, and add Tony Hill and Doctrove too. There are a shed load of howlers in the match and series as is expected with this lot.... The players, apart from the tactical referrals, would also go for any decision to be referred. Why not? After all, the umpires aren’t proving their worth as being international standard. Why not doubt them? Two unsuccessful and Tony Hill, as he did today, makes an absolute howler after Herath (or any equivalent in the de Mello trophy series) smashes it into his pad. Will DRS reverse that?

Second-
DRS is like makeup. It can only cover the obvious blemishes made by umpires and reverse howlers. If this were 15 years ago, the English media would’ve been jumping up and down that the home umpires were crap and biased. Fair enough with that. If an umpire’s quality doesn’t matter, then I’m just as inept as anyone around. DRS would save my arse anyway.

It’s just not an excuse, the umpire of the year Dharmasena has howler after howler in Nagpur. Dar was frankly pathetic in this series, and Tucker is not an international umpire. Neither is Hill or Doctrove. They need to get better umpires or train this lot properly before hurriedly getting them into test cricket.

Third-
Will all technology for DRS be uniform? Eagle eye and hawkeye are two different ball trackers. Will their errors also be calibrated as such? It can't just all be lumped with the same standards if they don't have the same standards.

There are issues to be addressed with DRS, and as Chappelli said today- Umpiring isn’t tactical, umpiring is decision making.

DRS in its current is very tactical (which is the fault of the players, but that's the problem with them having control of it), and quite often the right decision isn’t made.
Agree with all of the above.

What I was just adding was really how I feel DRS has been perceived since it was introduced. Originally there was a lot of dubious sounds made to its introduction, but this has more or less has slowly whittled away. The press, the commentators they all seem to be now more  for the whole concept and ,what I was really getting at is, that they perceive it as a fallback. Instead of facing the fact that umpires are rubbish atm they can just say well lets rely on DRS instead. Maybe you can even go as far as to say that is why there is indeed less focus on the umpiring aspect and therefore it could in fact be a partial reason for the pathetic umpiring we have recently seen. So what if the players are the ones doing the referring? It seems to have taken on a more simplistic view of being what "solves" the umpiring problem. They just seem to stop at DRS and not want to move on. I have not read of any of the alternatives you suggested or any other and that is because people seem to think that all that the umpiring is lacking is DRS, nothing else.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 16, 2012, 17:33
In my view, the purpose of DRS is to overturn the complete howler - the Trott LBW that was not given on day 1, both Cook dismissal's etc.  If used for this, it is publicly holding umpires to account for poor decision's and the correct result is reached (hopefully!).  What I don't like seeing it used for, and where I think it starts to undermine the authority of the umpire, is when it overturns the really marginal decision - where in real time, arguments can be made both for and against.  The examples that come to mind are the fact that you are no longer necessarily 'safe' against a spinner if you get a big stride in - Swann has profited massively from being able to overturn decisions that pre-DRS no one would have argued against at all. 

As for the BCCI's refusal to use it, I think they are burying their heads in the sand.  They say it's  not 100% accurate, but the analogy I saw today and likes was that seat belts won't save your life 100% of the time but that's no reason to stop wearing them.  The BCCI themselves, before the series, said they also opposed it because it would threaten the idea that the word of the umpire is final.  Yet today, Dhoni and Kohli in particular behaved more like footballers than cricketers in persisting to argue the Trott decision with the umpire. 

Overall, I think it is undeniably a good thing for the game, and its implementation needs to be co-ordinated globally by the ICC (who need to grow a pair and stand up to the BCCI).  Hotspot and Hawkeye are both pretty reliable and need to be used uniformly and consistently, in all series.
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Post by: ram on December 16, 2012, 17:44
Hotspot cameras, fine. They're pretty dead on certainties. Hawkeye is dodgy though. It looks nice, but it isn't gospel. Its maths for projection is well beyond the commentators' ambit (also beyond my level), and eagle eye had a pretty substantial error.

The BCCI's refusal mainly comes from a failed pilot test in Sri Lanka and then the failings in the important series, DRS wise, in England. Dravid's shoelace incident, the vaseline bullsh*t by thunder:censored Vaughan...

Agree with all of the above.

What I was just adding was really how I feel DRS has been perceived since it was introduced. Originally there was a lot of dubious sounds made to its introduction, but this has more or less has slowly whittled away. The press, the commentators they all seem to be now more  for the whole concept and ,what I was really getting at is, that they perceive it as a fallback. Instead of facing the fact that umpires are rubbish atm they can just say well lets rely on DRS instead. Maybe you can even go as far as to say that is why there is indeed less focus on the umpiring aspect and
therefore it could in fact be a partial reason for the pathetic umpiring we have recently seen. So what if the players are the ones doing the referring? It seems to have taken on a more simplistic view of being what "solves" the umpiring problem. They just seem to stop at DRS and not want to move on. I have not read of any of the alternatives you suggested or any other and that is because people seem to think that all that the umpiring is lacking is DRS, nothing else.
To be honest, the press has just towed the board's line. Read the Indian media and you'll see that the press is not supporting DRS. Board politics existed in the 70s, now and will forever. I won't post about this (frankly, no body will come off well).

I wouldn't say that poor umpiring is caused by DRS. These guys are umpires promoted from domestic cricket where there is no DRS. It's that the umpires that are coming up aren't good enough.

Why aren't they good enough? Who knows, but that's why they have a training panel and what not, to sort the umpires out.

What's wrong with the players referring? It's not the player's call to make a decision. That simply allows a selfish player to hog the referrals leaving another missing out. The aim of DRS is to get correct decisions. Give it to the third umpire if necessary, but not to the on field umpires. That failed miserably when DRS was first tested for lbws in 2002 (yes, that long ago).
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Post by: froome19 on December 17, 2012, 07:15
Agreed mostly ram, will answer later..

But just wanted that this all very anticlimactic, though I am sure it was what England wanted. Good to see Bell getting amongst the runs at the least. India needed Kahn for this test..
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Post by: ram on December 17, 2012, 08:22
England win the series then. Congratulations to England, again. By far the better side.

I do hope we'll be treated to an exciting India Bangladesh series

India needed Kahn for this test..
Oliver?
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on December 17, 2012, 08:57
The thread's new name   ;D

Excellent innings from Trott, very solid innings from Bell and hope he gets to his hundred.  England have played well and been the better side since the second test (why on earth was Monty left out for the first test...?) 

For India, I hope that this series serves as a watershed.  New blood needs to be  brought in - both batting and bowling, and their mobility in the field needs addressing big time.  TMS were looking ahead to the next world cup, in Australia, where the likes of Zaheer, Sehwag (or Statue as Sir Geoffrey has nicknamed him), Tendulkar etc. simply won't be able to compete on the fast outfields and the need for athletic fielding.  Irritating as I find the BCCI and the power they hold, world cricket needs a strong and successful Indian side in all formats.  For that to happen, they need to evolve and begin to effectively integrate up and coming youngsters with the more experienced players - before the old guard retire en masse and they are left with a bit of a void.
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Post by: ram on December 17, 2012, 09:03
Just hope that the board has a memory, and get Sehwag's mammaries down to size. What's he trying to do catching balls in his moobs.

Not the first time recently that India's been easily beaten. But this could lead to something.... hopefully.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 09:52
Damn.
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Post by: ram on December 17, 2012, 09:55
Deed done, draw agreed. Congratulations England.

Gambhir bowling full tosses and long hops to Bell.... nice revenge that.

B- They play until the final hour. At the start of the final hour, the captains can agree for a draw. England declared and that would've eaten ten minutes for the changeover.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 10:11
I hate losing. Gonna go buy that bottle of brandy & a pot of fresh glue.
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Post by: sublimit on December 17, 2012, 10:56
Ian Bell must of cloned an improved version of himself while he was in the UK for paternity leave..   with better concentration and eyesight.     

To be fair England did well despite the selection blunder in omitting Panersar in the first test,  Bell and to a lesser extent Trott needed to find a bit of form but Bell better bat like that against New Zealand though.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 11:00
"@ZaltzCricket: Disappointingly, Eng won't have the chance to avenge their two series defeats this year - not scheduled to play SA or Pakistan until 2015-16"
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Post by: ram on December 17, 2012, 12:08
Alex :censoredouris is a magic man
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 12:20
Well that settles it - soon as I have a job again I am going to start saving for a ticket to India so I can go talk to the selectors in person.
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Post by: ram on December 17, 2012, 12:28
The selectors pick the team?
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 12:35
The selectors pick the team?

Oh right, do you think the Indy government would grant me an audience? Or do I need to go on the waiting list to visit the Oval Office ???
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 12:54
Why do you want to do that?

Um.. because according to what I've been hearing & reading they need a talking to. And I've wanted to visit India forever, so I guess any excuse will do :-)
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Post by: ram on December 17, 2012, 13:02
Oh right, do you think the Indy government would grant me an audience? Or do I need to go on the waiting list to visit the Oval Office ???
It was a joke about the team.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 13:07
It was a joke about the team.

He he okeedokee (:
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 13:08
Nope I meant, why do you want to get a job?

Damn, well that question makes a lot more sense.. Cos it pays for visits to India etc ;-)
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 13:28
Sounds great, who do I talk to ???
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Post by: kabloemski on December 17, 2012, 13:38
Dang.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 18, 2012, 08:14
"@OfficialCSA: #csanews @ABdeVilliers17 withdraws from the Proteas T20 squad http://t.co/TmxRvCzy"

http://www.cricket.co.za/news_article.aspx?id=2209&section=news&subsection=news_all

"@OfficialCSA: Justin Ontong to replace De Villiers in the @BlueLabelTeleco T20 squad for the series against the @BLACKCAPS"
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Post by: kabloemski on December 18, 2012, 09:12
"@SuperSportBlitz: Match referee Chris Broad clears Australia's Peter Siddle of ball tampering in the 1st test against Sri Lanka. #SSCricket"
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Post by: ram on December 18, 2012, 10:41
Oooh That! ;D Don't remind the boxing day test to any Saffer cricket fan... CSA are an embarrassment.
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Post by: ram on December 18, 2012, 10:45
The traditional Boxing Day test has been replaced by-
3rd T20I: South Africa v New Zealand at Port Elizabeth
Dec 26, 2012 (14:30 local | 12:30 GMT | 18:00 IST)

All due to corruption, and that South Africa don't get any attendance for tests.
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Post by: kabloemski on December 18, 2012, 11:28
 >:(

 :'(
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Post by: Arb on December 19, 2012, 03:31
Siddle channeling HWSNBN in his denials... meathead.
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Post by: ram on December 19, 2012, 03:36
The ball tampering thing? Wouldn't whinge if I were Lanka considering Eranga seems a pinger.
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Post by: Arb on December 19, 2012, 03:38
Yeh I didn't see Siddle's but Cowan's is obvious (please suspend him). Everyone does it, of course.
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Post by: ram on December 19, 2012, 03:41
Peter Siddle and Ed Cowan Ball Tampering Controversy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayhEJtmRjWM#noexternalembed-ws)

Siddle's is soft, Cowan less so, especially if he raked his thumb in. I've picked many a seam while playing. Shame the bowlers were never good enough even with the dodgy ball.

Why no official complaint though?
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Post by: kabloemski on December 19, 2012, 07:30
Flower gives KP full contract

Quote
Andy Flower..confirmed that Pietersen has mended all the bridges.."We don't always get on with people all of the time"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2250213/Kevin-Pietersen-England-central-contract-performances-India.html
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Post by: ram on December 19, 2012, 15:23
Pakistan coming over and England back in January.
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Post by: froome19 on December 19, 2012, 16:40
Would be pointless to scrap them considering that they're reverting back to 50 overs for the counties rather than 40. All that practice for nothing..
Title: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: kabloemski on December 20, 2012, 08:54
"@ESPNcricinfo: Tim Southee smashes 156 off 130, and picks up 7 wickets... And then gets injured. He's out of the SA Tests. http://t.co/o17Nd1Yh"

Sucks, man, I kinda like Southee, would've been nice to watch him play in SA :-(

Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: ram on December 20, 2012, 12:12
And there goes any chance of respectability in the series for the Sheep.
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: kabloemski on December 20, 2012, 12:15
I fear the restraining order would prevent you from getting to close!

Yeah that and the fact that my damn Zimmerframe keeps getting stuck in the lawn  ;D
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: froome19 on December 20, 2012, 14:27
Bresnan in at 7  :-X
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: ram on December 20, 2012, 14:30
Saw them training for the EPPs. Dernbach's sh*te, can't bowl three balls at the same place.
Meaker has proper pace.
Briggs can be okay, don't think he will.
Tredwell and Bres are sh*t.
And the batting.... well Luke sh*te id the best bat. Still smashing our buttocks, last I saw.
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: froome19 on December 20, 2012, 14:54
Surely we must have some players who can play limited over cricket better than Samit?
Buttler is class, would love to see him dominating the IPL sometime soon..
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: froome19 on December 20, 2012, 15:07
Never said that, just said that I would like to see Jos dominating them :D
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: ram on December 20, 2012, 15:20
Samit is ok better than Bell.

 ??? I didn;t know that the Indian and Pakistani lesbian community liked being domianted
Why do you suggest Afridi is lesbian?
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: ram on December 20, 2012, 15:44
That's Asad Rauf who fapped into a Bollywood wannabe.
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: ram on December 20, 2012, 15:53
The umpire who did his bit forIndia Pakistan piece.
Title: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: kabloemski on December 21, 2012, 10:33
"@cricketicc: Brendon McCullum is the leading T20I run-scorer with 1656 runs at 36.00 #SAvNZ #cricket"

"@cricketicc: Brendon McCullum is the only player to have scored two centuries in Twenty20 International #cricket #SAvNZ"

"@cricketicc: None of South Africa’s nine leading run-scorers in the T20I format are in its squad for the series against New Zealand #cricket #SAvNZ"
Title: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: kabloemski on December 21, 2012, 10:57
"@CricketDiscuss: Tom Moody, former #SriLanka coach and Australia all rounder has been appointed coach of the new #IPL franchise - Hyderabad Sun Risers"
Title: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: kabloemski on December 21, 2012, 11:04
I hear you!
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: sublimit on December 21, 2012, 11:08
I'd love to see Thompson and Lillee circa late seventies bowling in 20/20.   Try slogging  that.

Current 20/20  is lamer than womens netball with the rubbish bowlers and sloggers getting lucky and nobody giving a crap about the result.
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: ram on December 21, 2012, 14:48
Could there be a worse self plug than Hyderabad sun risers. Pathetic. At least it isn't cricket.

Andy Roberts faster one. Let the dildo scoop come out then...
Title: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: kabloemski on December 21, 2012, 18:47
Tsotsobe out for the rest, nice opp for younger guys.
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: Anthony Moan on December 21, 2012, 22:58
Could mods shut this useless thread down!
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: ram on December 22, 2012, 03:09
Could mods shut this useless thread down!
Croatian Jews encroaching into enemy territory. Shoot at sight...


Post Merge: December 22, 2012, 04:19
Speaking of the sheep, good to see them pick Colin Munro. One of them who really has merited it, and Ronchi will be a NZ international around January.
Title: Re: Cricket- Rancid Curry v Mighty Pommies
Post by: ram on December 23, 2012, 05:32
Ranji match being played in the IIT ground in Chennai? FFS, there's the Nehru (railways) stadium which is free.
Title: Re: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from meaningless ODIs
Post by: ram on December 23, 2012, 06:26
Heh, that post wasn't meant for velorooms :fp

Anyway, as the title says. Easily one of the top 2 ODI batsmen ever.
Title: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: kabloemski on December 23, 2012, 07:50
Easily one of the top 2 ODI batsmen ever.

Legend.
Title: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: kabloemski on December 23, 2012, 09:34
"@BBCSport: England leave out @kevinpp24 for New Zealand ODI and T20 series, Joe Root to captain England Lions in Australia #bbccricket"
Title: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: kabloemski on December 27, 2012, 16:31
"MELBOURNE: Captain Michael Clarke became Australia's highest runscorer in a calendar year as his team ploughed through the second morning wicketless to grind down Sri Lanka in the second Test."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/1244667/1/.html
Title: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: kabloemski on December 28, 2012, 11:05
"@cricketicc: Jonny Bairstow will miss the ODI tour of India on compassionate grounds due to family illness. Joe Root will replace him #IndvsEng"
Title: Re: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: ram on December 28, 2012, 11:06
I always worry when Bairstow's away on family issues. Hope all's well with him and his lot.
Title: Re: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: froome19 on December 28, 2012, 11:09
Yep not good for Bairstow that  :(

But great news for Root and England in terms of development... I would have much preferred to see Root than Bairstow what with the promise he has shown..

Title: Re: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: ram on December 28, 2012, 11:15
To further my previous post, his father David's passing mainly.

Root, good for him, but Buttler ahead of both. Won't place much importance to that series though. Tis only a meaningless ODI series, and it won't mean anything if India win.
Title: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: kabloemski on December 28, 2012, 11:22
I was just about to ask, thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: froome19 on December 28, 2012, 11:42
England do want to keep on top of the ODI rankings though so it means a bit..

Also I believe Butler has firmly cemented his place in T20 squad but in terms of the ODI squad they seem a bit more hesitant after his performances in T20 both him and Hales should get automatic starting places.

Though Bairstow does offer the handy option of being wickey as well which always helps especially when  the alternative is Kieswetter..
Title: Re: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: ram on December 28, 2012, 11:49
Going on Jos' performances in the subcontinent last year. He was the best England Lion batsman in the team there, well better than even Jimmy Taylor. He has to be a lock for the 2020s

Hope not Kieswetter, he's had more than his share of chances. He's just been found out. Davies, otoh, if he can get over the Tom Maynard issue. Buttler's a keeper too, and not worse than Bairstow.
Title: Re: Cricket- Tendulkar retires from ODIs
Post by: froome19 on December 28, 2012, 11:56
Going on Jos' performances in the subcontinent last year. He was the best England Lion batsman in the team there, well better than even Jimmy Taylor. He has to be a lock for the 2020s

Hope not Kieswetter, he's had more than his share of chances. He's just been found out. Davies, otoh, if he can get over the Tom Maynard issue. Buttler's a keeper too, and not worse than Bairstow.
Aaah... you are right totally slipped my mind that  :-[

Kieswetter should have been gone ages ago.. Davies I hope, but the England management/selectors/captains seem to have a love in with Kieswetter.

Dernbach I am hoping gets dropped, Meaker also is good but a starting place may be a bit too much.. he still lacks experience even with his raw pace.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: ram on December 29, 2012, 04:45
http://news.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/tony-greig-dead-from-lung-cancer-at-66-20121229-2c06c.html (http://news.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/tony-greig-dead-from-lung-cancer-at-66-20121229-2c06c.html)

Sad loss. RIP Tony Greig.

He, for all his pee taking, was an intelligent bloke. Knew his cricket, and a proper rebel. For his role in the WSC, and even ignoring all his on field achievements, he'll have to be remembered as a great.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: AG on December 29, 2012, 04:52
sad day for cricket fans everywhere. 

RIP
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: Psych_ling on December 29, 2012, 05:54
I' m really saddened by Tony Greig's death. He was a rebel with a cause! I will always remember him and Bill Lawrey sparring in the commentary box, and his pitch report with his car key! He will be sadly missed. RIP.
Title: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on December 29, 2012, 07:23
"@the_sillypoint: Tony Greig's commentary on Warnie's hat-trick at MCG in 1994 during Ashes. A great moment -- http://t.co/X3iVRERY"

https://www.youtube.com/embed/pYp8Y_7u9wM
Title: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on December 29, 2012, 07:25
"@the_sillypoint: Mike Hussey to retire from international cricket. Sydney Test will be his last. #ausvsl"
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: ram on December 29, 2012, 12:58
Back to the mid 80s for the batting.

Warner
Cowan
Hughes
Ussie/twitto
Clarke
Doolan? Burns?

Quiney please. That is sh*t.
Title: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on December 29, 2012, 17:37
"@VincentBarnes50: Very impressive day 2 for the young SA Inv v NZ.Fantastic opening stand of 161 by Matthew Kleinveldt 78 and Rassie Vd Dussen 76 SA Inv 274/6"
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on December 30, 2012, 12:50
Dammit India  >:( :nuts
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: ram on December 30, 2012, 12:53
Rounds off a perfect year. Rahane should just retire and whore himself out for the 2020s.

That said, one of the best meaningless ODI innings from Dhoni. He's a master of the format.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on December 30, 2012, 12:57
I always love watching Dhoni on form, I have to say. He's Man of the Match.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on December 30, 2012, 12:58
Those boundaries and sixes - the one that went out the stadium - I enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: froome19 on December 30, 2012, 13:02
We were robbed.. robbed I tell you  O0

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: sublimit on December 30, 2012, 14:09
Sad for Tony Greig,  hell of a competitor.   Making the West Indies players throw their toys out of the pram when he said his England team would make them grovel was a high point.   

Loved his commentary with Bill Laurie also.
Title: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on December 30, 2012, 14:56
"@OfficialCSA: #csanews Proteas vice-captain, @ABdeVilliers17 is confident in his role as wicket-keeper batsman for the Proteas http://t.co/adjsoeGk"

http://www.cricket.co.za/news_article.aspx?id=2282&section=news&subsection=news_all

Hmmm.
Title: Cricket- RIP Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on December 31, 2012, 21:45
"@the_sillypoint: "Chennai is like putting your head into an oven and turning it to 200 degrees and baking yourself" ~ @faf1307 during IPL #cricketgems2012"
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 01, 2013, 11:38
Grim days, CMJ has succumbed to cancer. His last piece was on Greigy in yesterday's Times. Iconic voice.

RIP
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 01, 2013, 11:44
Yeah I just saw that :-(
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 01, 2013, 16:46
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/jan/01/christopher-martin-jenkins-cricket-best-friend (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/jan/01/christopher-martin-jenkins-cricket-best-friend)

Ever the finest writer (along with cmj and Athers), Selvey on CMJ.

Wil be tribute times, both new year tests. Lanka especially so wrt to one of their great supporters with Greigy.


Also, CSA are stoopid. New Year's test without boxing day tests should be on the first of Jan.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 07:21
Yes, they are stoopid.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 07:57
"@dbbovey: There is no better way to start a year than a Newlands cricket test on a warm bright day"

"@FirdoseM: Looks like @NewlandsCricket is ready. #savnz http://t.co/exzhZOlu"

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/02/ude6urag.jpg)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: froome19 on January 02, 2013, 08:28
I have been to Newlands a couple of time and must say he is right. Looks stunning with the mountains in the background...
SA must be the favourite for this test, after winning two hard series away this series at home to NZ should be a stroll in the park.

They would also be doing England some good as we are playing them twice this year in NZ and at home so if their morale is dented it would certainly do them no favours ahead of their tour of us.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 09:41
Awesome Froomey!

Damn, 7 down.... not the kind of cricket I want to see, honestly.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: froome19 on January 02, 2013, 10:35
This is a joke an absolute and utter joke  ;D

And now SA are 1/1.. it gets crazier by the second. :fp
 
Though Bracewell and Boult can not compare to Steyn and Philander so this should be a crushing defeat nevertheless.

Even closer now as a thin edge saves a reviewed Amla..Have I said this is crazy?


Lowest Test scores
New Zealand   26   
South Africa   30   
South Africa   30      
South Africa   35         
South Africa   36         
Australia   36         
New Zealand   42      
Australia   42      
India   42      
South Africa   43         
Australia   44      
South Africa   45      
England   45         
New Zealand   45            
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 11:12
Was just about to ask if it was a record!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: froome19 on January 02, 2013, 11:25
Interestingly SA have 6 of those scores.. let us see if they can make it 7 :P

Going better now though.. 15/1 already a third of the way to taking a lead.

More from the stats department :D:
Seems like  60% of those scores were made between these two teams so no surprise to see this.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 11:31
Cool stats! Damn we're chokers :-P
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 02, 2013, 11:40
Interestingly SA have 6 of those scores.. let us see if they can make it 7 :P
Defo all between 1890s to 1930s. They played on matting wickets regularly back then.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 12:38
Phew we're not chokers anymore :win Matting wickets?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: froome19 on January 02, 2013, 12:40
Quite right Ram. It is also the lowest score since India in 1974.

Time for SA to declare and bowl NZ out before the days out?
A one day test match. I like the sound of that  :P
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 12:43
Radical idea, Froome, you a bit of an anarchist too ???
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 02, 2013, 12:50
Matting wickets? A pitch with a mat on top of it. Deadly if a team had a good spinner. Still used in affiliate nations' ICC tournaments, but isn't as crude as before. Much truer bounce.

At least India scored 300 odd in that match that they got 42. Geoff Arnold and Old got them down.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 12:52
Planning to go watch the ODI on 21 Jan in Paarl, heard it's a slow one, but it's 20 mins away from me in the neighbouring town & old skool type stadium, should be great 

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/02/sa9e4eda.jpg)
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 12:54
Interesting, didn't know they did that?! A mat, as in an artificial cover? He that makes me sound retarded :-D I just find it a foreign concept, half expected you to say a drying wicket...
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 12:58
I have been to Newlands a couple of time and must say he is right. Looks stunning with the mountains in the background...

I haven't been in years, look forward to it, watching cricket at the grounds is something I'm going to start doing more often.

"@FirdoseM: The king of this castle: Kallis. Walks in to a thunderous reception at Newlands. #cricket #savnz"
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: sublimit on January 02, 2013, 13:01
Imagine Ian Bell on a matting pitch against Shane Warne.     I'd love to see that  ;D

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 02, 2013, 13:06
Wouldn't it be the same?

Interesting, didn't know they did that?! A mat, as in an artificial cover? He that makes me sound retarded :-D I just find it a foreign concept, half expected you to say a drying wicket...
Here's a matting pitch
(http://i.imgur.com/esAue.jpg)

Pakistan used it in the 50's and think even the 60s. Hanif Mohammad (the original little master) was a master of such pitches.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 13:14
I see, cool. Why not being used anymore? And why used in the 1st place?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 02, 2013, 13:19
Maintenance being the main. Very cheap and not affected by conditions, so a high class curator isn't necessary. Why not used now? Batsmen are softcocks.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 13:21
Ha ha :-D
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 14:01
Kallis reaches 13 000 runs! :woohoo What a dude. Actually feeling emotional about it.... crazy.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: froome19 on January 02, 2013, 14:06
You have a right to be

Surely one of the greatest cricketers of the decade.
When I went to watch him a play a while back I was told by my dad that I should be privileged to have watched such a player and he was right :D

Surely they has not been a more complete cricketer this era than him? Bowling until last couple of years. Batting in tests and limited overs. Fielding. He has it all.
:pray
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 02, 2013, 14:09
One of the greatest of the decade? Ever, more like. Will retire alongside Sir Garfield Sobers, Keith Miller, Botham, Hadlee and Imran.

Still doesn't excuse getting emotional...

Post Merge: January 02, 2013, 14:20
And, far as I can see, the third fastest five fer for Philander in 4.1 overs. Ernie Toshack had one in 2.3 overs (19 balls). Watto in 21 balls.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 14:25
Ever, more like. Will retire alongside Sir Garfield Sobers, Keith Miller, Botham, Hadlee and Imran.

Still doesn't excuse getting emotional...

Post Merge: January 02, 2013, 14:20
And, far as I can see, the third fastest five fer for Philander in 4.1 overs. Ernie Toshack had one in 2.3 overs (19 balls). Watto in 21 balls.

 :win

I always do - cricket, cycling, tennis, you name it :'(
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 02, 2013, 19:29
Surely one of the greatest cricketers of the decade.

I'm with Ram - undoubtedly one of the all time greats.  His batting stats alone put him up there near the top of the tree, and that's before you even consider his bowling and slip catching.  A truly wonderful player.

And a bit late in the day, but a belated RIP to both Greig and CMJ.  Both iconic voices of the summer for me (as an avid TMS listener), CMJ in particular was an absolute broadcasting and cricketing legend.  I remember listening to this live - had me in absolute stitches...  (provided the 'fishing' clip works wherever you are...)  http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20883647 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20883647)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 02, 2013, 19:38
I like to be picky. So here's my criticism of CMJ and Tony. CMJ being addressed to as Major, the deference, for want of a better word, that other commentators gave him.

Tony Greig, his over exciteable state during commentary, particularly in LOI matches.

Still great losses to the game though. Tomorrow shall be an emotional day in Sydney.

And with Eranga also rumoured unfit, Lakmal or Randiv? Dhammika Prasad, Herath, Pradeep, Lakmal seem to be favourite. Pitch is said to be greenish, weird considering Sydney's usually a turner and the next tour is India. Maxwell is a pathetic selection.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 20:18
Ooh when are India going to Aus?
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 21:19
"@the_sillypoint: Make sure you wear big hat in honor of Tony Greig and zinc for Mike Hussey's farewell test at SCG! #ausvsl #pinktest" ET
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 03, 2013, 04:14
Ooh when are India going to Aus?
Last year... 2015, not next month. Australia come here in February March.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 03, 2013, 11:22
Yesterday was a big day for SA cricket, Kallis, Steyn and Philander all reached some type of milestone, I loved it.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: sublimit on January 03, 2013, 11:33
Kallis might catch Tendulkar as highest test run getter of all times,  he must have a chance considering.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 03, 2013, 11:42
I think ST's in the 15 000s?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: sublimit on January 03, 2013, 11:46
I think ST's in the 15 000s?

15,600 approx i think.     Kallis is a couple of years younger, has been scoring heavy whilst Tendulkar is pretty much shot as a batsman.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 03, 2013, 11:51
Cool, thanks!
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 03, 2013, 11:51
"@TheCricketGeek: Everyone who is still watching the Cape Town Test is doing the cricket equivalent of slowing down to look at a car crash"

It was pretty painful last time for sure.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 03, 2013, 12:53
Shark would need a couple of big years to get close to SRT, and great though he is, I'd be surprised if he manages it.  If Cook continues at his current rate for the rest of his career, he'll be getting up there. 

As for the NZ vs SA series, the Kiwi's are now just playing for pride.  They have to put up a better fist of things in their second innings (couldn't exactly do much worse!)  Hope Kane Williamson has a good series - a real talent. 
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 03, 2013, 13:10
Oh he's the new young guy they were talking about?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 03, 2013, 14:22
Probably - only 22, already playing his 20th test.  Has also scored 'hard' runs already in his career, which bodes well for his future I think.  Let's face it, in all likelihood he's going to have to be that guy more often than not for the Kiwi's.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 03, 2013, 14:26
Dammit India!
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 03, 2013, 15:17
NZ kinda stabilizing here.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 04, 2013, 04:54
Mike Hussey-

As he looked forward to more time at home, though he will continue to play for Western Australia and Chennai Super Kings in the IPL

I think selfish :censored is spelled H U S S E Y. Retired from cricket for his family.... ha.

Probably - only 22, already playing his 20th test.  Has also scored 'hard' runs already in his career, which bodes well for his future I think.  Let's face it, in all likelihood he's going to have to be that guy more often than not for the Kiwi's.
If he becomes half decent, then Hesson will drop him. Kiwi cricket is fliped as long as Hesson and Buchanan are in the system.

Think he's a decent bat without really being good, Taylor and Ryder are still the two best.... oh, but they're cooling their heels. They had John Wright as coach.... oh but he's sacked. NZC are the thickest around. SLC are corrupt

Plus he's a chucker.

For Kiwi batsmen, Colin Munro. Seems the deal. 700 Plunkett Shield runs in 6 innings and should really be ahead of Brownlie and Flynn. flipping hell, how do Flynn, Franklin and even Fulton get picked over and over. They're test failures. Even Guptill's an impostor. Averages less than 20 against a non Bangladesh Zimbabwe opponent.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 04, 2013, 07:56
Former Western Province cricketer John Eugene Commins was murdered at his family home in Newlands on Wednesday night.

The 71-year-old, who played for Western Province Cricket Union in the ’60s, is the youngest brother of Western Province CEO Kevin Commins and the uncle of former Proteas cricketer John Commins.

Commins shared the house on Oak Avenue in Newlands with his wife Cherie.

The couple were at home at 10.45pm on Wednesday when three men climbed through an open bedroom window and tied them up in separate rooms.

Police said the men held Commins’s wife and tied her up, ordering her not to scream.

The home invaders then ransacked the house, before making off with jewellery and an undisclosed amount of cash.

After they were gone, Commins’s wife managed to untie herself and make her way to her husband. But by the time she found him tied up on his bed he was already dead. Police said they found no signs of visible injury. At this stage, they believe Commins was suffocated, but a post-mortem is being conducted to determine the exact cause of death.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/ex-wp-cricketer-murdered-in-his-home-1.1447479#.UOaJ48URpIY (http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/ex-wp-cricketer-murdered-in-his-home-1.1447479#.UOaJ48URpIY)

Jacques Kallis in his twitter account indicated for death penalty for perpetrators. He's not even the first cricketer to be murdered in South Africa in the past year (Louis Vorster being the other). Murdering in the process of robbery on both occasions... that is low.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 04, 2013, 08:07
It's terrible.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 04, 2013, 09:04
Mike Hussey-

As he looked forward to more time at home, though he will continue to play for Western Australia and Chennai Super Kings in the IPL

I think selfish :censored is spelled H U S S E Y. Retired from cricket for his family.... ha.

Agree with you, but I suppose if family is based in WA then that kind of makes sense, and IPL is a couple of months away - and will guarantee financial security for family.  As opposed to a year long commitment to tests and touring, where he only sees family in short bursts.  Still...

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 04, 2013, 10:00
Brownlie goes to his hundred with a couple of 6's of Peterson.  Well played that man - a bit of pride for the Kiwi's, now need a few more to step up to the plate.  Scored in good time as well.

Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 04, 2013, 10:07
Yeah, NZ doing nicely now.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 04, 2013, 10:19
The general sentiment in SA at the moment methinks..

"@AntonHoch1: #SAvsNZ Don't think I've  ever wanted someone to get a century playing against SA but am quietly rooting for Dean Brownlie"
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Post by: froome19 on January 04, 2013, 12:39
New Zealand slowly fading away..

Though the battle to not be disgraced by an innings defeat has given them some fighting spirit but it does not seem like enough at the moment.

Meh.. there goes Patel.. Steyn bowls him..
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 04, 2013, 12:54
Agree with you, but I suppose if family is based in WA then that kind of makes sense, and IPL is a couple of months away - and will guarantee financial security for family.  As opposed to a year long commitment to tests and touring, where he only sees family in short bursts.  Still...
True, but considering the timing, prior to an Ashes double header, and considering the reason, him being off for six seven weeks seems dodgy.

Brownlie is a western Australian. That's why he scored a hundred.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 04, 2013, 12:58
Ha ha
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 04, 2013, 12:59
And lost. New Zealand are sh*t.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 04, 2013, 13:26
Very disappointing. Gonna go to that ODI in Paarl, then wait for Pak to go see a proper cricket match

"@paperstargirl: And that is why the local tabloid has this headline:  http://t.co/GwGKMStS"

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/04/jyjujydu.jpg)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 04, 2013, 13:28
ODI and proper cricket match don't go together in the same sentence ;)
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 04, 2013, 13:30
He he okeedokee!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 04, 2013, 13:38
Yeah, and Taylor, Ryder and Southee were brilliant... okay, harsh about Southee's injury, but Taylor and Ryder.

I love to get the fans' view. Poll updated.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 04, 2013, 14:43
If a Kiwi is clutching at straws, it's that they bring a bit of the fight (some) of the top order showed in the second innings, from the start of the next match.  But they'll still get hammered.

As for my poll vote, given my impending terror about starting my first teaching placement next week and for those of you who know my surname, it kind of seemed appropriate...  :police:
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 04, 2013, 14:48
Ha, I did wonder if you were a long lost nephew.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 04, 2013, 15:04
I was once mistaken on a cricket field for his son (who has the same name as me).  Given that he's played for Australia age group teams, I think it's fair to say he's a little bit better than me...!

Hang on to your hats folks, there might be a glimmer of hope for the hapless Kiwi's in the second test.  Philanderer is potentially crocked: http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-new-zealand-2012/content/current/story/599703.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-new-zealand-2012/content/current/story/599703.html)

Oh wait, it won't make a blind bit of difference.  Oh well  8)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 04, 2013, 15:11
Aye, he played the U19 World cup a couple of years ago. Didn't they win that. Also a medium fast bowler, IIRC, and sh*t for that level, Alastair McDermott was the mint in that tournament for the Aussies, and Mitch Marsh of course. Kane Richardson's also not half bad and into SA's team now... not that it say much.

Oh for de Lange to be fit. Kleinveldt then.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 05, 2013, 11:33
"@rajpootsuper: Dhoni doubtful for third Pakistan ODI
http://t.co/iMkb2MmQ"

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-pakistan-2012/content/story/599767.html?CMP=chrome
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 06, 2013, 07:46
Is this thread too large? I think so....
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 06, 2013, 08:02
Ok, well what do you suggest?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 06, 2013, 08:09
Purge it, ban cricket. It doesn't exist.

Same as what happened with the first cricket thread. Too large, new one.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 06, 2013, 08:16
Ok, go ahead, start a new one :-)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 06, 2013, 08:20
Will wait for JSG to come along to close this.
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 06, 2013, 09:36
Ha ha

"@RichieBenaud_: If you only see 1 movie in 2013, make sure it's "Mohammad Irfan and the 7 dwarfs" #INDvPAK @_fakeiplplayer @AltCricket http://t.co/Fc7IkEcR"

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/06/u5e9agas.jpg)
Title: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 06, 2013, 10:33
 "@TheCricketGeek: Shane Warne dropping the F Bomb live of Fox Sports. That is why he is a Big Bash brand ambassador! :)"
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: ram on January 06, 2013, 14:12
Grim days. South Africa's first great fast bowler passes away. Cancer is a :censored
http://za.news.yahoo.com/fast-bowling-great-neil-adcock-dies-095430127--finance.html (http://za.news.yahoo.com/fast-bowling-great-neil-adcock-dies-095430127--finance.html)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP Christopher Martin Jenkins and Tony Greig
Post by: kabloemski on January 06, 2013, 14:17
:(
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 07, 2013, 08:12
Quote
The 37-year-old Kallis spoke during the first test of his desire to manage his ODI appearances in order to make the 2015 World Cup. Selectors responded by giving him the three-game ODI series off.

http://m.firstpost.com/sports/south-africa-rest-kallis-pick-4-uncapped-players-for-nz-odis-579635.html
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 07, 2013, 11:44
Will he make it to the 2015 world cup? No? Then he should retire from meaningless ODIs.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 07, 2013, 12:13
What do you think? I mean, he's been getting injured etc but still seems to be playing very well, will that last another 2 years? How was it with other great players, slow decline, sudden slide, no pattern? Well, hopefully he will retire from ODIs then. When ST retired now, how did it work, all up to the selectors, or player have a say.. guess it's not the same everywhere, though.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 07, 2013, 12:21
As I said, ODIs are meaningful once in four years. All the rest is a build up to that. Will his presence be blocking a David Miller's development? Yes, and it leaves less time to plan for the World cup. Selectors can't just drop Kallis, Ponting or Tendulkar, they can only nudge them in retirement's direction.

He'll be 39-40 in 2015. He'll likely not be able to bat and bowl till then. Sir Garfield Sobers, his bowling tailed off miserably towards the end, and that was an era where bodies didn't need to be perfectly honed but just have the ability to tolerate.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 07, 2013, 12:26
I see, thanks.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 07, 2013, 16:59
One match ban for Warne and a slapped wrist - http://www.espncricinfo.com/big-bash-league-2012/content/current/story/599977.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/big-bash-league-2012/content/current/story/599977.html)

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 07, 2013, 17:01
The original incident:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReWspD30HhQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReWspD30HhQ)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 07, 2013, 17:02
And the aftermath... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5HccvYYQg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5HccvYYQg)
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 07, 2013, 20:49
"@OfficialCSA: Congratulations to the Proteas women who beat the West Indies in their first ODI today! #PureProtea"
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 07, 2013, 22:59
I'd be their Shane Warne, banned all the time for dropping F bombs!
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 07, 2013, 23:53
Excellent point, B-Bop *Ponders*
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 08, 2013, 02:47
"@OfficialCSA: Congratulations to the Proteas women who beat the West Indies in their first ODI today! #PureProtea"
Good result for SA, but not really a match of standards. Stephanie Taylor (WI) apart, nobody there. It's really all Australia and England, followed by New Zealand and India, and a huge huge gulf to the next of WI. Beating those four teams is nearly always out of the question, and the top two is always out of the question. Bit like an associate win against Ireland/Bangladesh.
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Post by: ram on January 08, 2013, 13:49
Found this gem today
(http://i.imgur.com/vkU1F.jpg)

Some brilliant names in that touring party. Thomas Hayward, not the legend Tom Hayward, his namesake and uncle. Hayward was a roundarmer, but better known as one of the best batsmen of the era. Tom Lockyer, keeper and also a roundarm bowler (roundarm's different to overarm, think Lasith Malinga, but everyone). Though with the presence of Robert Carpenter in that touring party, it's likely he'd have kept wickets. George Parr, a batsman and an occasional not in the norm underarm bowler. Underarm bowling had basically died in the 1830s when roundarm took over.

In that list you'll also find John Wisden. Tis a familiar name, and indeed it is the John Wisden who started the Wisden Almanack. Lillywhite was an allrounder and later became an umpire. In 1862, Lillywhite no balled Edgar Wilsher 6 times for deliberately bowling overarm. Within two years, overarm bowling was legalised and most switched over. One notable exception of course was WG Grace. He remained a roundarmer for the span of his career. John was the son of Fred, who'd proposed the widening and heightening of stumps (implemented many decades after his death).

Ducky Diver there. And also the presence of HH Stephenson, the first bowler to be awarded a hat for taking three wickets in as many balls.

Down in the umpires list, you'll notice the magnificently named Julius Caeser. He was also a backup in case of illness.

Another brilliant thing is the footnote. Election day break.

So, what's so special about that photo? That was the first overseas tour by an all England representative XI.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 08, 2013, 14:16
United States got walloped by an innings and 64 in the first match and the rest were the same (all 22 batted twice, like a handicap match).

It's a fair question. India's got some of the oldest football tournaments in the world (the Durand cup and IFA shield). I don't know, maybe that the ruling elite brought cricket along to the country rather than the much more poor man's football. The climate certainly plays its part too, while standing in a field for hours is draining, there's not much of a risk of rain and running around in the heat can't be fun. But football was strong early on, India qualified for the WC in '50, but refused to pay for the travel and what not. The decline happened in the 70s and it has never come back from then.

Cricket had a FC structure; it had pretty much the first non white sports superstar in the world (Ranji), it was the preferred among the royals, and even the best of the regular pros were world class (Say, a Vijay Merchant). Cricket could also draw in a Denis Compton, in a cricketer's capacity and not as Arsenal legend, to play here. It was always likely to be bigger. Then came 83.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 08, 2013, 14:38
83?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 08, 2013, 14:57
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Seasons/ENG/1983_ENG_Prudential_World_Cup_1983.html (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Seasons/ENG/1983_ENG_Prudential_World_Cup_1983.html)

Not good for an Indian team fan..... not good...... disappoint
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 09, 2013, 11:36
Thanks for the link, Ram.. but ah no, my wifi, the page won't open  >:( I take it they must've lost everything??
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Post by: ram on January 09, 2013, 11:45
Just search the 83 cricket world cup (there are lots on the internet). It's one of the more famous editions along with the next three.

For what it's worth, India won the final.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on January 09, 2013, 11:48
Yeah India won against the awsomeness of that Windie attack
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 09, 2013, 11:51
So why is it bad if they won - did it cause probs for cricket in India? Or will the Google search explain all that (no worries, I'll Google)?
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Post by: ram on January 09, 2013, 11:58
Never said it was bad for Indian cricket. If anything, it was the point that caused the burgeoning popularity to madness; just the size of cricket compared to any other sport.

Yeah India won against the awsomeness of that Windie attack
Unbelievable that they lost twice to India. It just clicked, and the Zimbabwe match. Came back and destroyed us 3-0 immediately after.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 09, 2013, 12:14
Oh, this
Quote
Not good for an Indian team fan..... not good...... disappoint
confused me.. and also not being able to load it, haven't read.. thanks.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 09, 2013, 16:34
United States got walloped by an innings and 64 in the first match and the rest were the same (all 22 batted twice, like a handicap match).
This was an error on my part. It was an all England XI vs a United England XI which ended so (64's a typo, twas 54).

The scorecard of said match
http://http.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/121/121422.html (http://http.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/121/121422.html)

John Jackson ruptured a blood vessel in his leg and that ended his career. Later, he died in poverty. Jackson, at his peak, was renowned to be the faster of his era.
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Post by: froome19 on January 09, 2013, 16:46
:woohoo

Class by Hales, total class. Shows what the young limited over Brits can do in these sorts of competitions if given the chance. If only the IPL and ECB take heed. I would love to see guys like Hales and Buttler playing in the IPL and co. Hales looking really good now for a cemented place in the team so at least we will have that sorted.

Oh Btw anyone see Warne theatrics the other day..now that was a sight to behold..
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Post by: ram on January 09, 2013, 16:58
:woohoo

Class by Hales, total class. Shows what the young limited over Brits can do in these sorts of competitions if given the chance. If only the IPL and ECB take heed. I would love to see guys like Hales and Buttler playing in the IPL and co. Hales looking really good now for a cemented place in the team so at least we will have that sorted.

Oh Btw anyone see Warne theatrics the other day..now that was a sight to behold..
Why do you want to see these players so prove themselves in the IPL? Do you consider it a quality tournament? Do you think it will improve them as players? It's not, and the ECB doesn't need to release them. They're better off playing counties.

That scorecard is funny to look at. Interesting only 4 balls an over. When did it change to 6?
Balls per over were different till not too long ago.

1889- 4 balls to 5
1900- 5 balls to 6 in England
Australia had 8 ball overs
in 1939- England tried 8 ball overs
1979- Australia changed to 6 ball overs

John Jacobs? FFS, John Jackson. That was a stoopid error.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 09, 2013, 17:13
Alex Hales, take a bow son.  Onto the roof at the SCG is no mean feat.  I don't want the young English players to play in the IPL/BBL because they want to get rich quick (although that is an undeniable perk) but I think it is fair to say that it wouldn't harm their game particularly if managed properly by the ECB.  I remember a few years ago an interview with Collingwood extolling the virtues of playing and training alongside Sehwag (back when he was good), so there is some benefit for sure - see Luke Wright coming back into the side and doing well having played in the BBL as another example.  However, what we do not need is the likes of Hales, Buttler, and Bairstow morphing into the next KP - i.e. an egocentric tw*t who puts money first.

Froomey, I posted a video clip of the Warne incident earlier in the thread.  Bats flying and all sorts!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 10, 2013, 15:11
Might I just say- Sobers. The greatest all rounder. Good few hours of watching his didn't go wasted.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 11, 2013, 18:38
:woohoo   Go England!  India just can't buy a win at the moment, can they?  How long has Dhoni got left in charge?  How long have the old guard got left?  Will Pujara get a look in this series?


I'm going to have to disagree with Slater there, a couple of years until the next WC means you've got plenty of time to introduce a few new faces, rest your big players - particularly ahead of back to back Ashes in the next 12 months, so makes perfect sense imho.  Hughes, Finch, and Khawaja are all in form, and it's good for them to get a look in and press their case over a few games.  Hughes of course, has now made his case pretty emphatically!
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Post by: ram on January 11, 2013, 19:03
A meaningless ODI. Won't place much weightage to India's performance, win or loss. The old guard consists of Dhoni, Yuvraj, Gambhir and Raina to an extent. They have a lot of time remaining in ODIs (apart from Gambhir maybe). Dhoni is still the best batsman in ODI cricket. Where did Dhoni fail? Not as captain, this is the best batting pitch for an ODI in India. Maybe getting out in the chase. That England total of 320 here is 50 runs more than other places.

Slats speaks no sense, not hard to disagree with him.

Still will wait for Hughes though; he scored 2 hundreds in a test in South Africa. Long way to go yet. He's no test batsmen (despite the Lanka series, anyone could score against that team) and could've run Bailey out on at least two or three occasions today. That'll be a problem. Finch in form only in the Ryobi, mind. Drawing blanks in the Shield. Don't think he'll succeed in international cricket (even Bevan was good in the Shield domestically).
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 12, 2013, 16:00
Oh man, Kiwi's are getting royally flipped yet again.  First Elgar gets a hundred against them, and now they're doing that headless chicken thing that they have perfected so well again.  All over by tea tomorrow...?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 12, 2013, 18:19
Skaap-naai. At least Ross Taylor's grin won't be wiped off easily.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 12, 2013, 18:36
Was asked to give up the captaincy, refused, was sacked, ruled himself out of this series as a result.  Surely will be recalled for the England series.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 13, 2013, 10:42
"I just think in general, if you're going to have a go at someone then it shouldn't be someone from Australia [about Healy criticising Wade for being a wasteful nut]," Warner told The Sunday Telegraph.
"You have to support the guys and get behind them.


Warner, you precious flipping pr*ck
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 13, 2013, 21:58
He he
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 14, 2013, 17:50
Come on New Zealand you can still win this!

Ever the optimist BYOP?! 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 18, 2013, 06:58
Absolute carnage at the Gabba!  Can anyone watching enlighten me - minefield of a pitch or just good swing bowling and a few loose shots?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 18, 2013, 07:50
Seam there, not a minefield, and rather boneheaded batting, then again, what else can we have expected with Dilshan and Warner as openers.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 18, 2013, 09:11
I'm looking forward to the cricket tomorrow :woohoo
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 19, 2013, 10:24
Oh England...  :angry
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 19, 2013, 10:49
Seriously why is Dernbach near the team?  Rubbish when he mucks around with all his variations, still pretty rubbish when he just tries to bowl fast.   :(
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 19, 2013, 11:37
Saffa's having a bit of a stinker in Paarl.  Even with Kleinveldt hitting 3 sixes at the end, all out for 208.  Kiwi's have a chance...


Edit:  OK, scrap that crazy idea.  Guptill's season goes from bad to worse with a diamond duck, and they are now 4/2.  Think I put the mockers on them with my carefree optimism
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 19, 2013, 16:43
So.... Sheep, nice win. Franklin? Richard Hadlee the second.

What was the point of Chris Martin or Jeetan Patel? Top debut

Post Merge: January 19, 2013, 16:56
Dernbach must be a good shag. No other way he gets in the side.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 19, 2013, 17:13
Well done NZ.. Franklin, yes, was cool for sure. SA....  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 19, 2013, 18:10
Dernbach must be a good shag. No other way he gets in the side.

Only woman I know on the back room staff is Broad's sister...  :cool:
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 19, 2013, 21:50
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/20/dutupyzy.jpg)

Snapped a pic of Dale Steyn at the cricket today he he
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 19, 2013, 21:59
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/20/dutupyzy.jpg)

Snapped a pic of Dale Steyn at the cricket today he he
 

As Ram would say, noice.  What a man. What a player. 


Why has the drooling/I love something smiley disappeared?  I want to use it on Dale  ;)
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 19, 2013, 22:21
He he

Big roars for Dale, AB, and Faf at the stadium today, 3 of the most popular players in SA.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 20, 2013, 08:31
"#csanews @ABdeVilliers17 suspended for 2 ODI's after a slow over-rate in yesterdays match in Paarl http://www.cricket.co.za/news_article.aspx?id=2385&section=news&subsection=news_all (http://www.cricket.co.za/news_article.aspx?id=2385&section=news&subsection=news_all) …"

http://www.cricket.co.za/news_article.aspx?id=2385&section=news&subsection=news_all (http://www.cricket.co.za/news_article.aspx?id=2385&section=news&subsection=news_all)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 20, 2013, 20:13
:angry :nuts
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 14:12
Oh puh-lease!

Those Kiwis couldn't find Smith's nuts even if it had a bullseye painted on!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 21, 2013, 15:36
Maybe that he doesn't have any...
Mitch McLeneghan, Boult, Bracewell, Southee, Vettori, Ryder and Taylor back and Williamson a bit lower down. And maybe get Kitchen in? It's not a bad team. That's some very good fast bowlers, and thank flip for no overcoaching. Now to get rid of Hesson and Buchanan.

Anyway, here's some trivia (asked this among 8 questions, and got only these two)
1 Name a batsman who forgot his bat when going out to bat in a test (easy one)

2 name the batsman who got lost in the toilets on his way out to bat in a test (less easy)
the others were conundrums

Googling trivia is phurt....

Women here for the World Cup... having a bit of a knock on effect on the domestic competition.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 17:04
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Maybe that he doesn't have any...

His balls are fine, checked them out with the binoculours on Saturday :evil:
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 17:11
I would hope for the Smiths' sake that she gets a little closer to his balls than I did on Satday ;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 17:18
Really feelin' the love here... better tear up those SA v Pak tickets STAT :'(
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 17:23
Fine, just don't let me catch anybody complaining about test attendance in SA again.....
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 17:30
I had an absolute ball, had a great group of peeps with spirit next to me, an absolute hoot, singing, ragging, talking trash. Was HOT - 36 degrees at one stage - but I was organised - had a whole bag full of ice, kept throwing it down the back of my dress, and handed out to the peeps around me - those guys were TRASHED, they must've felt like poo the next day :lol
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 17:39
I was rather disappointed that there was suddenly zero cell signal at the stadium for the rest of the day after about 11-ish, was looking forward to tweeting. Oh, and when I snapped that pic of Dale Steyn I was so close to getting an autograph, and he kept kinda looking my way, but there were a million little kids screaming in front of me. And I would've felt like a poes to shout: "Dale, Dale, please sign my bat!" Although I think he might've if I had. I was wearing a very short dress ;)
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Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 17:47
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Maybe he might have thought you were getting it signed for your grandkids

PMSL!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 21, 2013, 17:59
1 Name a batsman who forgot his bat when going out to bat in a test (easy one)

2 name the batsman who got lost in the toilets on his way out to bat in a test (less easy)
bump
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 21, 2013, 17:59
Although I think he might've if I had. I was wearing a very short dress ;)

I told you wanted pictures to verify your outfit  :P

And what's wrong with shamelessly flirting with an international sports star...?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 21, 2013, 18:11
bump

I have a feeling that number two is Robin Smith?  No idea why I think that really, just a hunch...
For the first one, I would love it to be Chris Martin?  But might also be Neil Mackenzie?  (Of course, if it's someone from way back, I have no idea!)

Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 21, 2013, 18:20
No idea... sorry
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on January 21, 2013, 18:31
No clue for the first one..
Though Marlon Samuels forgot his bat when it left his hand and made straight for Shane Warne.

The 2nd one.. well putting it into google makes it easy enough :cheesy
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 21, 2013, 18:39
Froome- Yep, it's on the player's wikipedia page too. Not a very famous name. B, indeed, at Lord's. Answer-
Spoiler (hover to show)

Clue about the first. Great English cricketer (proper great) fast bowler, pr*ck in the media... He did it in the Ashes.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 21, 2013, 18:54
On the right track (and indeed on Sky), he doesn't commentate for the tests now and sticks to the counties... Not Bumble or Botham. He's a fast bowler  and is somewhere here (http://www.skysports.com/cricket/ashes/profiles/0,26360,16278,00.html)

Most wickets without a 10fer in a match too.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on January 21, 2013, 19:12
Well unless I am missing something there is only one English still alive proper fast bowler on that list.
And he also commentates on country games..

Still never heard of him dropping his bat
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 21, 2013, 19:17
Ok, figured out the first one - must be
Spoiler (hover to show)

How do you get lost in the loo's at lord's?  They're next door to the dressing room then you go down the stairs and through the Long Room?!  Not exactly rocket science...  Only wrong turning you can take is into the unpire's office 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 21, 2013, 19:27
Yes, it is him. A famous incident in the 81 Ashes, when the opposition attack was led by DK Lillee and Jeff Thompson, though not the Tommo of the mid 70s. Willis went out to bat and was taking guard when he realised he'd forgotten something.

His record? A very well known one, highest wicket taker in test cricket without a 10fer.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on January 23, 2013, 08:10
India are bowling well but this is good innings building by England. We have KP still there and some explosive players down the order so if they can fire then this could turn into a good score. Then again it could still go horribly wrong.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on January 23, 2013, 09:45
Awful decision to dismiss Cook. Morgan and Patel did not help. But Root what an innings so far.. UNBELIEVABLE. And Pietersen also now getting in to things.

And now Sharma dismisses KP. He played well for his 76, but for the 250 we will need to see Buttler coming in and accelerating immediately.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 30, 2013, 07:14
BCCI covering themselves in glory yet again... Seems that in some parts of the globe, women's cricket suffers as much as women's cycling.  Because it is so professionally run in this country, it's quite illuminating to read such a damning report from a country that has such an outstanding cricketing history.  Sad really  :(
http://www.espncricinfo.com/women/content/story/602643.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/women/content/story/602643.html)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 30, 2013, 08:37
BCCI covering themselves in glory yet again... Seems that in some parts of the globe, women's cricket suffers as much as women's cycling.  Because it is so professionally run in this country, it's quite illuminating to read such a damning report from a country that has such an outstanding cricketing history.  Sad really  :(
http://www.espncricinfo.com/women/content/story/602643.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/women/content/story/602643.html)
Why BCCI specific? I ask, which cricket board apart from the ECB has done anything out of its way to support women's cricket? Women's cricket in England isn't professional btw. It's still semi professional. And outside the XV in the England team, you'd see the same exist in England. Can't make a living from women's cricket.

It's not a charity, you can only spend the money raised. Women's cricket in England has Sky's backing. In every other country, it lives on its own. There's a small market for the Southern stars (as they're called) and 9. There's nothing else. Why? Simple question, what's the fastest ball a woman has ever bowled? If you thought 90mph, it's not correct, it's actually something like 128-130kmph. The fastest. The hits are shorter and the cricket too attritional to evince interest for those don't GAF otherwise. It's a rare Claire Taylor, Shelly Nitschke or Charlotte Edwards who're actually able to hit a ball hard. The quality is lower, and I love me some Lottie. A class act if any around.

About the tests, guess how many tests in a women's Ashes series? And how many tests played by England or Australia or any other country apart from the Ashes? If you thought a one off Ashes test, you thought correct. If you thought no other test apart from the Ashes, you'd be correct again. This is a direct result of 2020 cricket and the exposure gained there as compared to tests.

That "Ranji match" that's was accommodated for the World cup was in fact the final of the Ranji trophy. A completely inconsequential match eh. Mumbai were the home team, all of their stadia are being used in the Women's world cup. The women are actually now getting the best facilities instead of some New Road equivalent stadium which they'd have received earlier.

Women's cricketers are far better than their cycling counterparts imo because they don't do these whinge pieces regularly. Last year, Charlotte Edwards (if ever I had a favourite) was asked about the possibility of equal prize money for men and women. She rebutted it saying that the two can't be compared and that she was pleased just winning for her team, and indeed it can't. There's just not enough of a market for it. But that'd not stop me from cheering on when she's batting.

Fact is that since the ICC has played women's T20 world cup alongside with men's the exposure is far more than any women's tournament has ever gotten before this.

No, women can't make a living solely from cricket. Even Claire Taylor, a Wisden cricketer of the year in 2009 no less, had a desk job. And any woman cricketer pre mid noughties from any country needed a day job. Fred Trueman had a day job too. But in India, apart from cricket and hockey and to a lesser extent football, nobody can make a living from sport.

Rs2500 for a women's FC match, yeah it could, and possibly should, be increased. But it's not specific to one country and it's not inexplicable (unexplainable type inexplicable). Can only earn the money raised.

No crystal balls, but my prediction is England vs Australia in the final. India and NZ being the two in the semis and Lanka and WI in the super sixes. Pakistan and South Africa being eliminated
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 30, 2013, 08:50
What's so wrong with a good whinge, though? Stiff upper lip? No, if something bugs, say so.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 30, 2013, 09:12
She talks about cricket in her time. A time just a few years after DK Lillee was paid pittance (some 30 Aussie Dollars for a day of test cricket) while being the greatest fast bowler then. That's Lillee, an all time great to boot who earned nothing then. Times have changed. India once had a population of less than 200 million, that's not relevant now.

I can write an article like that for every single sport in India, men or women. Do we see whinge pieces from cricketers from Tripura? Or Assam? Or how Indian sprinters have a govt job to support them and are part time? I'm actually pleasantly surprised that women's FC cricketers have a match fee (the state boards aren't rich btw, that's only the BCCI and they'll support the women's national team alone). The ECB only introduced that in 2011 for their internationals.

Can't just click the fingers and expect a golden lamp to fall on the lap. Takes time, and flipping hell you'd be mental to say that it hasn't improved for women cricketers.

Whinging serves no purpose. If anything, it detracts from the interest.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on January 30, 2013, 10:12
Ok, I do see what you're saying, but how can anything be done about it if people don't speak about it? Let me put it this way, if situations are much improved, how did that come about? Surely a whinge or two must have precipitated that?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 30, 2013, 10:53
Making the sport professional? Compare women's cricket from pre 98 to now, you'd see immediately how far it's come. It can only grow and professionalise at a pace that the demand suits. Blaming BCCI for giving Rs2500 a match? They don't pay the wages domestically. They could get a bit more, but again demand...

Why did I pose so many questions about women's cricket in response? Just as the most rudimentary barometer of how much interest it does evince among casual fans, who mostly are here. I'm no women's cricket aficionnado, just a non regular viewer of international cricket. Another simple question, who's the South African women's captain? I can't say without a search on the internet. I can only name the English, Australian, Indian, Kiwi and WI captains, and most of the former 4's teams. None more.

It's easy to live in eutopia and say that all are equal. Fact is, the demand and money says it's not. I do hope there are better facilities in the future, but it'll only come with time.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 30, 2013, 22:00
I take all your arguments on board Ram, quite happily, and agree with many of them - I was merely posting the article as I found it interesting.  I'm well aware that even in this country women's cricket is very much second fiddle to the men's game, and yes, only those in the England squad are capable of making any sort of money from the game.  However, I think it is fair to say that the set up in this country is several steps ahead of the rest of the world.  Yes it's not perfect, and yes it has required the ECB to pull their fingers out, but it has made remarkable progress - and England's international success if clearly related to that.  Me targeting the BCCI was purely due to the article being about that - however, in such a cricket mad country, and with such a large population, it seems to me that there must be a market for at least developing the sport in India?  It would be nice to see the BCCI get on board and look to develop the game, at all levels, in the country.

As for the nature of women's cricket, it is obviously a very different game, but that should not detract from the skill level - although obviously you have to be more of an aficionado and less of a wham-bam T20 occasional watcher.  Hopefully with time, things like the T20 tournaments running along side one another will lead to an increased demand for more women's matches or tournaments, and a general profile raising for the sport.  In this regard, whilst it is sure to ruffle a few feathers, the possibility of Sarah Taylor and Holly Colvin turning out for Sussex men's 2nd XI is, I think, a great opportunity for the pair of them to put the ladies game in the shop window, show what they (and other women) are capable of, and make a wider audience sit up and take note.  Who knows, if they are successful, then the occasional solitary Ashes test will develop into something with a bit more meaning, and other bilateral series can develop elsewhere as well.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on January 31, 2013, 02:18
What I meant was, it’s not India specific, and every country apart from England is exactly the same. It’s not the BCCI somehow disgracing itself alongside its counterparts.

Demand to make it one of the developing sports can't just be conjured up. Maybe this world cup here could make a difference. But no, it's just reality that women's cricket isn't that popular. It's never been. Demand at the moment is at an all time high for women’s cricket. The simultaneous running of the 2020 WC has allowed for that, and the proper telecast of the WCW. There’s not demand yet that makes for cricketers to allow having professional cricket only careers. That’s still a long way away. I’ve seen women’s cricket in the 90s and even the early 00s, and the different is marked. I can’t dig up footage of a DD telecast of a woman’s international, but I can say the difference in coverage and production quality is massive.

Well, we’ll never be sure about the skill level. I’ve heard a couple of cricketers say the skill is same, but facing Michael Holding and facing Mark Ealham are two different things, or even the over-rated Brett Lee. James Anderson, for example, you know what happened when he lost 5mph through a great part of last year. Even the international men spinners give it a proper rip, lots of revolutions on the ball. If any, I’d say a wicket keeper has the skill set most suited to making a switch if necessary, which Sarah Taylor is.

Colvin and Sarah Taylor aren’t pioneers in this case. Ellyse Perry played grade cricket a year or two ago, and did well. I don’t think it’ll have any bearing on women’s tests, they’re a dead species. They were a regular feature till the early to mid noughties. I’m personally not in favour of making it a coed sport. What happens should Sarah Taylor and Holly Colvin fail? The women get exposure for what they are, not for what they compare against men.

Post Merge: February 01, 2013, 06:55
All but won the first one. And a run out in the first over chasing 280
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 01, 2013, 03:10
WHat the BCCI did yesterday, that's self serving bulltwang. The :censoreds

Post Merge: February 01, 2013, 06:56
Crap from Charlotte Edwards today. Not been in the best of form recently, still time though and will be the leading ODI run-scorer by the end of the tournament. Gunn and Jones, well played. Dani Wyatt's not an opener and didn't look one. Sarah Taylor's injured.

Sophie Devine 145 and White Ferns 320. South Africa will require three innings to chase that down.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 01, 2013, 07:26
Jeepers, when Starc gets it right...
Mitchell Starc's 5 Wicket Haul Against West Indies - Aus Vs WI 1st ODI 1st February 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQy9H39P9fw#ws)

Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 01, 2013, 08:46
I'm f*cking nervous #SAvPak
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 03, 2013, 08:36
One of the finest spells yesterday. Donald, Amby, Pidge, Devon Malcolm, Harmison, alongside or just behind their best spells.

Charlotte Edwards' the leading run scorer in ODIs. A century, and a comfortable win on the cards.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 03, 2013, 09:34
Windies ladies have piled  on 368 against Sri Lanka...that's massive! 171 for Stafanie Taylor, and a rapid 50 for Dottin.  Sri Lanka staring down the barrel of an enormous thrashing.

Great response from Charlotte Edwards - leading from the front, now up to the rest of the team to bring it home.

Over in Perth, I see Maxwell follows up his turbo charged effort of the other day with a golden.  Can't work out why they opened with him the other day and then not again today...?  Personally, not convinced that he's quite international material, but even so, give the guy a chance to make one position his own.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 03, 2013, 10:03
Jesus wept... Maxwell bought for 1 million at the IPL auction.   :rolleye
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 03, 2013, 16:50
Why, you've known for ages that RSA suck!

;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 06, 2013, 02:31
Better at talking than playing. I guess the Indian women have good tutors.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 16, 2013, 11:33
Easily the best women's world cup I remember.

Lanka all over the place, either at the top or crap. Kaushalya was immense.

England, poor. That's all. Losing to Lanka is just not good enough. Failing to chase 148 against Australia, even worse. Sarah Taylor was rubbish, 3 ducks in a row and should've been 4. Shrubsole was very good and Charlotte Edwards got a couple of nice records through the tournament.

New Zealand, also not good. India, pathetic. Dottin's a blockbuster player. West Indies are screwed in the final, especially with Ellyse Perry likely to be back.

Australia threw the match away against West Indies for an easier final. Anyone sensible would rather have a WI final than New Zealand or England, may be crapulent, but the tournament's such and super sixes are crap, super eights were torture.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 16, 2013, 12:47
Fair assessment on England that Ram, Sarah Taylor a big disappointment, although with 2 centuries, Edwards has obviously had a pretty decent tournament - although the failure to get to the final at least will upset her I'm sure. 

Here's hoping Dottin and Taylor big in the final to take the fight to the Aussies  :)

Looks like Robin Peterson has played a doozy of an innings to get the Saffa's to near parity...and now the seamers are doing their thang  :cool:
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 16, 2013, 16:50
South Africa v Pakistan test is poised beautifully.  Pakistan to bat through tomorrow, Ali will make a ton, and then end up setting South Africa something around 275-300 to chase on the final day.  Amla vs Ajmal to decide it  :)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 17, 2013, 13:52
Perry having a blinder in the women's final - slammed a quick 25* and her current bowling figures are 2-1-2-2.  And she's still not fully fit   :rolleye

And as I type that, she takes her third.  Australia taking this easily unless Dottin does something truly remarkable.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 17, 2013, 14:13
Australia've won it. No surprises regarding Perry, she's always been the goods. Deserved, they lost the match they had to, won every other.

Tanvir's bowling Aamir like no balls
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 17, 2013, 17:02
Regarding England in New Zealand - belatedly realised that KP hasn't been involved so far this tour.  Is this part of him being rested/having his workload managed?  Haven't heard that he is injured so assume that this is so?

Congrats to the Aussie ladies, pretty comfortable in the end.  And also congrats to the Saffa's - under real pressure at times in this match but as all great sides do, they found a way to hang in there and when the opportunity arose, were ruthless in snatching the advantage back.  Smith, with 49 test victories, is now the 'winningest' test captain.

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Post by: froome19 on February 17, 2013, 17:14
KP was announced as being rested a while back. Part of the rotation/resting policy in place.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 17, 2013, 18:03
What a load of balls that is. When did he last play? Tis a 3 test, 3 2020, 3 ODI series. But honestly WGAF about this series? I mean, Woakes...... FFS Woakes. No Woakes. It's only a pointless time filler.

Misbah and Shafiq dismissals were crap.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 18, 2013, 08:29
Yes the NZ series shouldn't be that onerous, but with the back to back Ashes series later in the year, blah blah blah...  :cool:
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Post by: ram on February 18, 2013, 08:38
Tests be good, good enough, but these one day series...

Only good thing about yesterday
http://velorooms.com/index.php/topic,148.msg85737.html#msg85737 (http://velorooms.com/index.php/topic,148.msg85737.html#msg85737)

This first catch.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 18, 2013, 09:46
Yeah, saw that earlier!  Rubbish from McClenaghan, should have been on the rope, but unbelievable grab from the kid!

Not unlike this: Ball Boy Classic Catch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLkT_CaSpi4#ws)
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 18, 2013, 13:12
BBC's team of the tournament for the Women's World Cup: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21497422 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21497422)

Don't really know enough about the women's game to agree/disagree with it, but would have been tempted to put Perry in there.  Even though she only played a few games, her performance in the final was pretty special (based on the radio commentary I was listening to...)  That said however, any 17 year old playing international sport is pretty special, so fair play to Ferling.
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Post by: ram on February 18, 2013, 13:23
Not too tough a team, maybe a Jess Cameron for her performance in the clutch matches or Satterthwaite instead of Taylor (who was nominated as one of the players of the year last year). Ellyse Perry made her debut at 16, and well known is that she's also an international footballer.... Ferling's a star, deserves it. Australia missed Alyssa Healy from their team, btw. Another spinner maybe...

He made Brindle a man, it isn't Aaron, it is Arran.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 18, 2013, 14:04
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Women’s World Cup team of the tournament: Suzie Bates (New Zealand, captain), Charlotte Edwards (England), Rachael Haynes (Australia), Stafanie Taylor (West Indies), Deandra Dottin (West Indies) Eshani Kaushalya (Sri Lanka), Jodie Fields (wicketkeeper , Australia), Katherine Brunt (England), Holly Colvin (England), Anya Shrubsole (England), Megan Schutt (Australia).

And the official team of the tournament
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Post by: Capt_Cavman on February 18, 2013, 17:46
David Cameron Plays Cricket In India (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYeB4QcHbBw#ws)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 18, 2013, 18:09
David Cameron Plays Cricket In India (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYeB4QcHbBw#ws)
Far better than his Prime Ministerial counterparts is David Cameron. It's dead set centre of the commercial centre of Mumbai, this Oval Maidan. Always full though, and mainly by players/students from cricket academies.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 19, 2013, 08:05
Ellyse Perry made her debut at 16, and well known is that she's also an international footballer....

Wow
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Post by: cj2002 on February 21, 2013, 10:16
Ricky Ponting signs for Surrey on a two-month deal this summer. (http://www.kiaoval.com/surrey-sign-ricky-ponting/)

Surrey - my home county, no less (though I support Kent) - fast turning in to a home for old-age cricketers. Ponting is about 50, and Ramps is still playing at nearly 600,000 years old!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 21, 2013, 10:28
Ricky Ponting signs for Surrey on a two-month deal this summer. (http://www.kiaoval.com/surrey-sign-ricky-ponting/)

Surrey - my home county, no less (though I support Kent) - fast turning in to a home for old-age cricketers. Ponting is about 50, and Ramps is still playing at nearly 600,000 years old!
Ramprakash retired last year

You could say Gary Keedy or that incompetent fruitbat Gareth Batty.
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Post by: cj2002 on February 21, 2013, 10:34
Ramprakash retired last year

Did he? That passed me by. I just assumed he'd go on for ever, like the Queen or space.

The negative side to this story is that my old school friend, Arun Harinath (http://www.kiaoval.com/arun-harinath/), is still unlikely to get a huge amount of game time. Last year it was KP they brought in, this time it's Graeme Smith and Ricky. How is any young batsman supposed to establish themselves when their team keeps doing that...
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Post by: ram on February 21, 2013, 10:46
Tiffin Boys Grammar school?
He did finish the year well last time, might have a run considering all of Surrey's batsmen were sh*te after Maynard's death.

Well, if Smith or Ponting are within budget, who'd not go for them? And being a test venue, the best will always be within budget. Get rid of Dernbach, that's the first thing Surrey should do, then Batty, cos he's a talentless sh*tepiece.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 21, 2013, 20:11
Wasn't Harinath opening at the end of last year?  So looks like he'll be in competition with Burns or Ansari.  Having played against both, I'd say Ansari is more of a middle order player but assuming Davies is first choice keeper, then Burns would be his back up and so may not get much game time.  I think because last year was so traumatic, for want of a better word, for the club, they want a few wise old heads - and they don't come much older or wiser than Smith and Punter, to act as father figures I guess to their plethora of talented youngsters.  And Punter is only covering for Smith when he's on international duty, so he'd only be taking Smith's spot in the side.  Sure, there's no substitute for game time, but it would be awesome if you were a young up-and-coming batsman to train alongside either of those two..you would learn so so much from them, even if it meant a stint in the 2nds.

All that said however, having just had a look at the Surrey website, their squad looks a bit thin on the ground...  So top 6 might look something like this?
Smith
Harinath
Solanki (moves up to open when Ponting arrives - Punter slots in at 3)
De Bruyn
Ansari
Davies

In other news, MCC have decided that should the bowler knock the bails off mid-delivery, it will be a no ball.  Bad news for Finn then  :evil:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21537843 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21537843)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on February 22, 2013, 06:30
Openers were looking good, shower and 2 for

Cowan misses again, Muppets on cricinfo  calling for his heads.

Looking like a long day for India if warner, watts survive a few overs after lunch
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Post by: just some guy on February 22, 2013, 06:46
4th ball after lunch watto gone

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: just some guy on February 22, 2013, 06:57
Warner gone   :lol

Wade and Clarke in
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 22, 2013, 09:04
 Just to check, this Ravi Ashwin that is tearing the Aussies apart is the same individual who was sh*te against England?  Or is it his twin brother?   ;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on February 22, 2013, 09:06
Just to check, this Ravi Ashwin that is tearing the Aussies apart is the same individual who was sh*te against England?  Or is it his twin brother?   ;)

same dude different bowler apparently   :lol

Comms been going on about how sh*t he was and how good he is bowling

my guess more to do with batsmen fwiw
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Zam on February 22, 2013, 10:42
Bad shot by henriques.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Zam on February 22, 2013, 10:47
The only stream i am getting is indian commentary and they are going ape sh*t..dont know everything they are saying but they are very excited.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 24, 2013, 03:19
Spinning the ball, makes such a bloody difference. Pleased with Ashwin's effort, Harbhajan and Vijay were still bad picks.
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 24, 2013, 11:06
Not a fan of his at all, but Dhoni is playing a superb innings, absolutely marmalising the Aussies.  Can see them facing a deficit of about 150 which will be tough to overcome.
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Post by: sublimit on February 24, 2013, 11:46
Dhoni in full flight is something special, a bit like Peitesen or Lara in his heyday.

 :cheesy
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 24, 2013, 12:38
Yeah, I loved watching India today, missed Sachin's session yesterday, but Dhoni was awesome today..

SA v Pak - love SA winning but a 'whitewash' is never sexy.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 26, 2013, 09:06
The crapulence of Australia in that test. That's all. Good win, still three tests to cock it up.

And after that Vijay effort, I hope the selectors have a few flop ons. Wouldn't be able to strike a ball if Tiger Woods turned up at his home naked.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Capt_Cavman on February 26, 2013, 11:57
Not sure why the Beeb is reporting this unless it is relevant as to why Maynard Jnr fell under a tube train.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21588586 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21588586)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on February 26, 2013, 12:52
Nick Hoult is reporting from the court room. Maynard's hair samples had cocaine and MDMA. The pathologist, according to him, said that alcohol and cocaine had a detrimental effect on his judgement.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 26, 2013, 17:48
Also, he was running away from the police who had pulled him over in his car.  If he was high/drunk, you obviously wouldn't want the police to breathalise you. 

I do like this quote from his family though:
Quote
The only people who would judge Tom on the findings of the inquest are people who didn't know him.
  Agreed - whilst I strongly disapprove of drug use of any sort, it's not my place to judge him.  It is however, such a shame given how talented he was  :(
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 27, 2013, 12:58
I remember this - last year sometime? Jeez, being caught with drugs is bad but not worth losing your life over, such a shame.
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Post by: ram on February 27, 2013, 13:29
Didn't lose his life over that. He hasn't been caught possessing any gear AFAIK. Only found out post the hair tests. Whatever it was, twas unfortunate, but RHB and Dernbach being Tom's closest mates being unaware of his drug use? County cricket has some to answer

The Tom Maynard post was mainly about Edwina Currie's twitter post. Obviously Darwinism missed out with Edwina Currie.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 27, 2013, 14:30
Ok I don't know the whole story, thought he might've panicked? Don't know her. But I hear you, it reminds me of that Smeichel tweet re Shearer, people turning a blind eye, not cool.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 28, 2013, 17:47
The Tom Maynard post was mainly about Edwina Currie's twitter post. Obviously Darwinism missed out with Edwina Currie.

?

Ok I don't know the whole story, thought he might've panicked?

That would be my guess.  Didn't want to speak to the police, freaked out, and legged it with tragic consequences.  As a result of all this, ECB are going to step up testing for recreational drugs among players.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21588350 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21588350)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 01, 2013, 07:29
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There are some signs that the game now takes a more enlightened view towards drink and drugs. When Paul Smith, suffering from seizures and blackouts, was revealed to have a drug problem in 1997, the ECB responded by banning him from all levels of cricket. From standing on the Lord's balcony celebrating a Man of the Match award and Warwickshire's sixth trophy within three seasons, he lost everything. He lost his employment, his home, his family and spent time sleeping rough. At one stage he went for more than a week without food

This is a rather depressing and damning indictment on the ECB.  Full article here - http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/622955.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/622955.html)

Sir Geoffrey doesn't rate NZ's chances in the test series: http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-new-zealand-2013/content/current/story/622789.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-new-zealand-2013/content/current/story/622789.html)
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 01, 2013, 17:11
http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/domestic/wheater,320883,EN.html (http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/domestic/wheater,320883,EN.html)

A little bit puzzling this, for me.  Sure Bates isn't the greatest batsman in the world, but he progressed last season, and there is Rouse waiting in the wings for us as well.  Could see him playing in the County Championship side, and would strengthen the top 6, but Bates is just about the best gloveman in the country (along with Foster), and in one day cricket that is so precious.  The way he can stand up to all of our quicks is awesome to watch.  If Wheater wants to be first choice keeper somewhere, not sure Hampshire is the place I would have chosen to go.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 03, 2013, 11:35
Pujara and Vijay...chapeau.  If anyone can explain Australia's selection policy for this match, then I'd love to hear it, but can't take away from two remorselessly excellent innings from these two. 

I do wonder if this might spell the end for Sehwag though.  Another failure, and the youngsters that India have are ready and waiting to show what they've got.  Barring a minor miracle, India are going to win this test at a canter, so far better to blood new faces in a winning side.  Rahane or Dhiwan or perhaps a recall for Gambhir for the next test surely has to be an option?  And is Harbhajan really a better option than Ojha?  Given their respective performances against England, I'm really not sure why Ojha isn't playing and Bhaji is...?
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 06, 2013, 22:10
Jeepers there's a lot of grass on that wicket - http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-england-2013/content/image/623826.html?object=569243;page=1 (http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-england-2013/content/image/623826.html?object=569243;page=1)

And since when was England being 18-3 on the menu?!?!
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Post by: froome19 on March 06, 2013, 22:29
Hopefully England will find them mighty selves on the end of a right old walloping and will start to take it seriously. The amount of dismissal in the press for the NZ test team has been annoying and downright arrogant at times.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: sublimit on March 07, 2013, 12:06
England got a deserved ass whupping by NZ by the looks of things second day.   

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on March 07, 2013, 23:34
Rutherford :pray  167 = England all out 167

There is no way England can win this test match now which means that I would still fancy a draw unless England collapse once again.

Which is also likely  :lol
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Post by: DinZ on March 08, 2013, 02:25
Good job the press have not spent all week laying into the Aussies...Karma

such is the misery in the Australian camp that they do not appear to be doing the same back to England. yet.
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Post by: DinZ on March 08, 2013, 02:29
Pujara and Vijay...chapeau.  If anyone can explain Australia's selection policy for this match, then I'd love to hear it, but can't take away from two remorselessly excellent innings from these two. 

I do wonder if this might spell the end for Sehwag though.  Another failure, and the youngsters that India have are ready and waiting to show what they've got.  Barring a minor miracle, India are going to win this test at a canter, so far better to blood new faces in a winning side.  Rahane or Dhiwan or perhaps a recall for Gambhir for the next test surely has to be an option?  And is Harbhajan really a better option than Ojha?  Given their respective performances against England, I'm really not sure why Ojha isn't playing and Bhaji is...?

and now confirmed. Sehwag gone and looks like no recall for Gambhir so Dhiwan should be stepping in
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 09, 2013, 08:26
Looks like England eventually turned up.  Only 3 days late, but so long as we scrape a draw with a miraculous second innings a la Brisbane 2012, the pee poor preparation can be shoved under the carpet (again), and that makes everything ok doesn't it?   ;)

That said, delighted for Compton - hopefully the first of many, and he can start afresh tomorrow and turn it into a real biggie.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 12, 2013, 07:15
Australia shooting themselves in the foot, or a turning point from which the team will grow together with a renewed focus on the Ashes?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/content/current/story/624494.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/content/current/story/624494.html)

I'm inclined to go with the latter.  Sure it's a perhaps a bit harsh, but the process of analysing your own performance is part and parcel of playing cricket at the highest level, and so to not be able to come up with 3 bullet points is, in my view, very poor by those 4.  Clarke saying it's about more than just this - numerous infractions throughout the tour, so it's about making a point about respect for the coach, captain, and team as  a whole.  PRetty fundamental tenets of playing international cricket in my book.

Who'd be a bowler?  :fp
http://www.espncricinfo.com/sri-lanka-v-bangladesh-2013/engine/current/match/602472.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/sri-lanka-v-bangladesh-2013/engine/current/match/602472.html)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 12, 2013, 09:23
Dances ;) Thanks for the posts, you are maintaining the cricket thread very well the last while.. and hey DinZ. Here is something coooool:

Got this off Twitter via @robtclements - the story of cricket in Afghanistan - I saw a stream of a match between them and Scotland - Intercontinental Cup - Ireland also seems to be rocking it, and them aiming for test status - all secondhand news - so awesome

Afghanistan Cricket team (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6kkOE7FZe0#ws)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 12, 2013, 09:27
Rutherford :pray  167 = England all out 167

There is no way England can win this test match now which means that I would still fancy a draw unless England collapse once again.

Which is also likely  :lol

 :lol Froome :froomedog
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 12, 2013, 20:19
Dances ;) Thanks for the posts, you are maintaining the cricket thread very well the last while.. and hey DinZ. Here is something coooool:

Got this off Twitter via @robtclements - the story of cricket in Afghanistan - I saw a stream of a match between them and Scotland - Intercontinental Cup - Ireland also seems to be rocking it, and them aiming for test status - all secondhand news - so awesome

Afghanistan Cricket team (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6kkOE7FZe0#ws)


Will watch this when I get some free time.  Which is looking like some time in about 6 months...  :(

Post Merge: March 12, 2013, 22:22
Oh Scotland...   :'(  http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-intercontinental-cup-2011-13/engine/current/match/516858.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-intercontinental-cup-2011-13/engine/current/match/516858.html)

Fun fact of the day for y'all, I was at university with Josh Davey.  :cool:
He dropped out to go full time with Middlesex, although I think his career there has gone absolutely nowhere.

I should clarify that - playing for Scotland isn't probably what he had in mind when deciding to go full time.  Shame that it'snot quite worked out for him.  He came through the minor counties set up, rather than an academy, and simply forced his way into the reckoning.  Nice guy to boot  :)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 13, 2013, 19:12
Expecting a stronger performance from England tonight.

I'm ok with that, I have been growing fonder of the English recently *cough* but ideally NZ will put up a good fight.
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Post by: kabloemski on March 13, 2013, 19:13
Will watch this when I get some free time.  Which is looking like some time in about 6 months...  :(

Working hard!
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Post by: froome19 on March 13, 2013, 19:15
Got to hope so.

Compton needs time, I will wait before closing the book on him.

I like to the NZ players, and I don't think some of them will get out without a fight. Wagner was especially nice to see doing well. But for England's arrogance you have gotta fancy them over a 3 match series.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 13, 2013, 19:22
But for England's arrogance

Personally the dashing looks of a Cook and Finn has been motivation enough to cheer them on..

But I like their style. And even sulky KP is growing on me.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 13, 2013, 21:01
Compton needs time, I will wait before closing the book on him.

He got a pretty good hundred last time out!  If he can back that up in this test, then...?

But I like their style. And even sulky KP is growing on me.

Ye gods, someone in Seth Efrika find Kabs and check that she's not been kidnapped and replaced by an imposter!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 13, 2013, 21:09
Ye gods, someone in Seth Efrika find Kabs and check that she's not been kidnapped and replaced by an imposter!

 ;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on March 13, 2013, 21:26
He got a pretty good hundred last time out!  If he can back that up in this test, then...?
The hundred didn't totally do it for me. True England were battling to save the match and had been skittled first innings but one big score is something you do expect from a player like him. I never doubted his ability, just how well he can perform at the top of our order and so one good score doesn't do it entirely for me, but true his hundred was a sure step on the way to him integrating and proving himself fully.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on March 13, 2013, 21:27
Both teams unchanged coincidentally with NZ winning toss and deciding to bowl.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on March 13, 2013, 21:52
Root has taken to international cricket like a duck to water. Bairstow has not really convinced me either and Morgan has had plenty of opportunity all of which he has spurned.

I think there is at least one batting spot up for grabs and all three of those players could take it with a decent set of performances.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on March 13, 2013, 23:12
Compton going well currently. The New Zealand pace attack doesn't seem all that threatening though and it is a good pitch. Also it is a shame Finn got demoted from 3, he was going well there :P
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 13, 2013, 23:19
I'm going to bed - no all nighter this time up in a few hours for Ind v Aus :evil:
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 14, 2013, 14:14
Rained out and p*ssed off - skimped on NZ v Eng for it - what to expect from the rest of this test then?
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 14, 2013, 15:36
Sarcastic bastardo :nuts :-P
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 14, 2013, 17:33
Compton going well currently. The New Zealand pace attack doesn't seem all that threatening though and it is a good pitch. Also it is a shame Finn got demoted from 3, he was going well there :P

Good point on cricinfo - the last England player to score a ton on debut and then back it up with another...Ravi Bopara  :D

Still, I like Compton opening, and on the basis of this series at least, has so far massively out performed Root who was as guilty as anyone for giving his wicket away in the first test.  I know he did brilliantly in the One Day series, but he has so much time on his side.  Let him get fully accustomed to international cricket, and in time, he will move up to open.  With Compton scoring the runs at the moment, it's a luxury England can afford. 
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 14, 2013, 19:35
I don't think Bopara made a ton on debut, he did back up his first 100 with another in the next test (which is what Compton has done) in fact he made three on the bounce.


That's what I meant :fp  I knew the word debut was in there somewhere!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on March 15, 2013, 07:21
ha ha

OZ of to a good start

Warner out for 71 the savior walks in at number 3 looking good for 200 bang out 1st ball he he 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on March 15, 2013, 07:22
Australia's No. 3 against spin: last 40 balls, 0 runs, five wickets   :lol
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 15, 2013, 07:23
Okay - about damn time India took a wicket - or two. Jadeja!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 15, 2013, 08:01
ha ha

OZ of to a good start

Warner out for 71 the savior walks in at number 3 looking good for 200 bang out 1st ball he he

Wow JSG I didn't know you could be this bitchy, I like it ;)
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 15, 2013, 19:34
SA v Pak ODI running close so far.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 15, 2013, 21:32
Damn what a snoozefest in the end - loved Misbah's sixes but the last 88 balls lasted an eternity!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on March 15, 2013, 21:58
Good start to the day for Eng. Broad just got Williamson c/b
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 16, 2013, 09:55
It's an absolute bloodbath in Mohali...  Dhawan tearing the Aussies apart.  Door slamming shut in Sehwag's face.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 16, 2013, 19:15
Well well it's about bloody time! Go India!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 18, 2013, 04:52
Jadeja takes Clarke for the fifth time - although I gotta say I think it was a no ball, didn't look like any part of his foot was behind the line :S Aus 119/5 and talk on Twitter that Clarke might be replaced as captain for the next match.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 18, 2013, 05:47
My bro says Hughes' wicket also dodge - can't say, the intricate mysteries of the LBW has escaped me for the last 38 years - perhaps in 2013 I will finally learn exactly how it works :P
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 18, 2013, 19:27
Jadeja takes Clarke for the fifth time - although I gotta say I think it was a no ball, didn't look like any part of his foot was behind the line :S Aus 119/5 and talk on Twitter that Clarke might be replaced as captain for the next match.
Only way Clarke loses the captaincy is if his back causes him to miss the game.  The guy has been utterly brilliant since taking the reins.  Best batsman in the world right now (well, him, Amla, and Cook) and his captaincy is attacking and imaginative.

As for the LBW... http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-36-leg-before-wicket,62,ar.html (http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-36-leg-before-wicket,62,ar.html)   :cool:
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 19, 2013, 05:36
Hi, Dances, I have recently interacted on Twitter with some Aussies - two dudes who I reckon to be around the 50s age bracket - and they claim that Clarke has a role to play in Aus's struggle - something about him being childish and picking his buddies instead of the best team, etc - nothing too concrete - and I don't know if they're just being 'old farts' - or have a real point - or that what they say is even true - I did find the following article which doesn't really make Clarke look bad to me at all - although I don't really know much about team tactics etc so I am not sure what to make of it. The article does seem to give insight into Clarke, though, might be worth a read

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Notions of Clarke as an old-school leader, derived from his natural flair with the bat and in setting his fields, are misplaced. He has the skills of a classical cricketer and on-field captain, but the preparatory habits and single-minded approach more commonly glimpsed in other, more forward thinking sports. His favourite sportsman of all time is not a cricketer, but rather Michael Jordan, that 20th century avatar of professionalism in all its cold calculation.

If falling short of Jordan's cruelty, an intolerance for those unprepared to walk his way has characterised two of the more calculating episodes of Clarke's career. Andrew Symonds was deeply admired by Ponting, but it was on Clarke's watch that the hammer first fell on the allrounder's career. The locum captain while Ponting holidayed, Clarke refused to tolerate a missed team meeting during a Top End series, and Symonds was dropped. Katich's differences with Clarke were well known, and his unwillingness to contribute much more than runs to a team in which Clarke was soon to be captain in 2011 was a likely cause of his summary removal from the contracts list.

It may be said that Clarke has a stricter record as a disciplinarian and demander of high standards than Arthur does. Ghosted columns for News Ltd, commonly the sort of task a cricketer will commit little energy to, are pored over by Clarke as though sacred texts. His often smiling visage for the public and at press conferences hides a stern face and insistent tone in meetings of import. There is nary a single member of the CA touring staff who have not been scolded verbally about maintaining the level of aptitude or preparedness that Clarke requires. His Argus review interview is believed to have been among the most strident. On-field opponents can also relate that Clarke's tongue is every bit as sharp as his footwork.

Hussey and Ponting encouraged a strong team culture merely by example. It remains to be seen whether success can be gained from Clarke's attempt to enforce one by decree.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/content/story/624729.html

Does this make Clarke a great cricketer but bad captain? Or a potentially great captain with indisciplined players? Which would cause Aus to struggle more, the former or the latter? I mean, I kinda liked what I read there, a guy who is that hardcore and focussed about prep, etc - but if a large % of your team is not that way, do you bend for the team to work, or do you make your team bend to work for you?

Sorry! I guess I have more questions than answers.. (thanks for the LBW link!)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/19/nuqabate.jpg)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 19, 2013, 07:06
Interesting...  Comparison that immediately springs to mind is Hussain and the England captaincy.  He and Fletcher were largely credited with dragging England, kicking and screaming, into a more professional era - and the fruits have been evident since, first with Vaughan in 2005, and the more recent success of Strauss and Cook. 

The Australia situation sounds similar but different.  The discipline, is for me, a prerequisite of being a professional and international sportsman.  The homework project should have been done, missing team meetings, engaging with your captain and coach to find areas for improvement, and making sure you're preparation is bang on - these were expected and highly maintained when I played university cricket, so for internationals it should be a given. 

I think Clarke is spot on to want to enforce those standards.  Ponting had a team of superstars, and winning kind of took care of itself.  Winning breeds confidence and discipline.  However, with Ponting and Hussey gone, Clarke (and Australia) need to fine a new way.  It is an entirely new team, and needs to forge a new identity.  It might take time, and it might ruffle a few feathers along the way, but if the end result is a team that is as highly focussed on all aspects of the game as Clarke himself, then who in Australia will ultimately be complaining.

Overall, how will he be rated?  A great batsman yes.  As a captain, a lot depends (as it always does) on the back to back Ashes coming up.  Forget the shambles going on in Australia at the moment, in English and Australian conditions, I think Australia will be a real threat, and wouldn't be surprised if the series' are shared.  With an Ashes win under his belt, what is undoubtedly a hugely young team, will benefit enormously.  The likes of Hughes, Khawaja, Smith (and several others on the domestic scene) are all very promising, and can learn a lot from Smith about how to operate and succeed in the international game.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 19, 2013, 07:14
Ok, cool, thanks, interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: ram on March 19, 2013, 08:09
What with Warner, Hughes and Smith in the side?

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The Australia situation sounds similar but different.  The discipline, is for me, a prerequisite of being a professional and international sportsman.  The homework project should have been done, missing team meetings, engaging with your captain and coach to find areas for improvement, and making sure you're preparation is bang on - these were expected and highly maintained when I played university cricket, so for internationals it should be a given. 

I think Clarke is spot on to want to enforce those standards.
So what's Mickey Arthur being paid for? I'd like to see how Clarke would've tried to enforce it on Warne or Lillee. Hussey talked of Clarke's insecurity. Looks like it's coming to the fore.

Being suspended (publicly) for not filling in a self evaluation form and then being called back in the next test as captain. Yeah, they fliped it up proper. Drop the only performing bowler. The old farts are right- Hussey, Katich, Watson. Clarke's no Border, and the latter was reluctant and the former anointed.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 19, 2013, 09:02
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Hussey talked of Clarke's insecurity. Looks like it's coming to the fore.

Same guys mentioned that too.

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Being suspended (publicly) for not filling in a self evaluation form

I think discipline and professionalism is important, but that did seem a bit high school to me. I'm no international cricketer but I remember in one job we were constantly forced to do this - and it used to irk me no end. It did seem like the bosses were at a loss because business was tough due to the recession - filling in that damn form did not change a damn thing for the better and eventually I left because I couldn't stand it anymore - not due to the pressure of making money but because we were made to feel like naughty children - what were top management getting up to? Displacing blame and responsibility?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on March 21, 2013, 08:45
Essex v Middlesex. pre season game at Chelmsford today.
Current temp 4, expected high today7, with a chilly wind from the east.
Cricket is now offically a winter sport  ;) ;)

Think we give this a miss and enjoy the cycling on the telly.
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 22, 2013, 08:34
Hey, Jadeja's so hot right now, I'm not missing *that* :-)
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 22, 2013, 11:20
Was sorry to see Smith go, was enjoying his batting. At least Aus has been hanging in there.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on March 22, 2013, 13:02
Well Essex beat Middlesex yesterday by 3wkt in a freindly 45 over bash.
Cant believe there playing a 35 over freindly today with temps just about 5degs. Could be one of them days for snow stopped play
Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 24, 2013, 10:27
So I hear more and more people (admittedly Aussie cricket fans) moaning about the 'doctored' pitches in India - fair's fair, or uncool? I honestly don't know, but I really WANT to know. I mean, is it the terroir and some are simply good enough to handle even the dodgiest, and that differentiates the good from the great? Others say Aus simply don't have that fight in them at the moment. It is a young team, right? Talk of Mickey Arthur's replacement via SA v Pak commentary.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 25, 2013, 07:10
Home team will always have the advantage when it comes to preparing pitches.  I'm sure many teams over the years would have liked to complain about an English green top, and if you go the subcontinent, the pitch is always going to be a bit of a dust bowl and turn square.  What this Autralia series has shown (and the England one before that), is that non-Asian players can prosper in Indian conditions.  Clarke particularly, but also Cook, KP, and Root (in the final test).  What it highlights is the lack of depth in the current Australia top 6, and a lack of awareness on how to play spin.  Cowan, for example, looked pretty clueless at the start of the series, but has dug in, worked out a method that works for him, and improved throughout.  The likes of Watson and Hughes still look pretty clueless, and with that as a starting point, you are always going to struggle to put together the sort of partnerships to make 400+ scores in a Test. 

However, I wouldn't read too much into this performance from Australia.  Although disappointing for them, in home conditions I have no doubt they will be hugely improved.  The bowling attack is set up for more 'seam orientated' pitches, so roll on the Ashes...

As for England atm, wtf?!  Getting completely destroyed in Auckland.  Have fingers and toes crossed for Bell to produce the innings of his life tomorrow and somehow stave off a defeat. 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on March 28, 2013, 08:53
http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/current/story/627024.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/current/story/627024.html)

Jessie Ryder in a coma after a night out and being attacked or in 2 fights

Title: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 28, 2013, 12:56
Awful, I saw that. It's just sick. Follows a British fan being beaten to death at a Sharks game in Durban last week. F*cking animals. It's just sport.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 03, 2013, 09:56
IPL begins today.  On the plus side, it means I get cricket on terestrial TV here in the UK (assuming ITV4 will be showing it like last year...) and will be able to watch it.  On the down side, it means I'll be watching the IPL... 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 06, 2013, 18:25
This would be quite cool: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/22044029 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/22044029)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on April 06, 2013, 21:53
I love watching the IPL. It pits the best players in the world against each other consistently in a real nail biting format . I know there are those who are not so appreciative, but I find it really very entertaining.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on April 06, 2013, 22:36
This would be quite cool: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/22044029 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/22044029)
This would be great, me football team & me cricket team both playing at OS, bring it on.
Huge potential at the OS for international matches also, anything involving Eng, India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka would almost certainly lead to near sell outs, plus of corse you can get probably three 20/20 games in a day. Great idea let it happen..
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 07, 2013, 15:57
Come on Oxford!!!  90 odd needed, 6 wickets in hand... Would be an awesome victory :win
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on April 13, 2013, 23:05
Lancashire of to a solid start. With Katich and Prince I can't see us not being promoted and White looks a good player as well. We lost Keedy but Kerrigan is a very talented bowler who is on the England Lions books and it was time he stepped up and took centre stage.

Middlesex really look the squad this season and it may very end up being a London based title race this season.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on April 13, 2013, 23:07
Also admittedly I have been overcome by IPL fever and have been following it avidly for the past week or so. Also there is a great fantasy IPL game which has really got me hooked here:

http://games.espncricinfo.com/fantasy/homepage.aspx (http://games.espncricinfo.com/fantasy/homepage.aspx)

may be me worth a shot.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on April 14, 2013, 09:43
"@pavilionopinion 22m
If you missed it, here's Dhoni's 104m monster six onto the Chepauk roof: http://youtu.be/EHNlxC_RA9E (http://youtu.be/EHNlxC_RA9E)  #IPL"

M.S.Dhoni 104 Meter Six vs RCB (Ball Hits the Roofs of Chepauk) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHNlxC_RA9E#ws)
Title: Re: Cricket- Great serial about the Bodyline tour
Post by: Zam on April 19, 2013, 09:57
Bodyline Series Episode 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xotqlhPjeXE#ws)

Bodyline Series Episode 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVzZDF9zTds#)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: lancasterke on April 19, 2013, 10:56
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1727790/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1727790/)

fire in Babylon is amazing
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on April 23, 2013, 13:40
Unbelievable..

All sorts of records being broken..

And my fantasy team just about to be usurped.. put Sehwag not Gayle as captain :fp :spank
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 23, 2013, 17:36
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1727790/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1727790/)

fire in Babylon is amazing

True 'dat. 

Seriously, Gayle...that is absolutely ridiculous...unbelievable display of power and clean hitting.
ABDeV's 31 off 8 rather fades into insignificance by comparison!  Why the hell would anyone choose to be a bowler?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 24, 2013, 07:12
Australia's Ashes squad announced: 
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Ashes squad Michael Clarke (capt), Brad Haddin (vice-capt, wk), David Warner, Ed Cowan, Phillip Hughes, Shane Watson, Usman Khawaja, Chris Rogers, Matthew Wade (wk), James Faulkner, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle, James Pattinson, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon, Jackson Bird.

Australia A squad Brad Haddin (capt), Steven Smith (vice-capt), Ashton Agar, Jackson Bird, Alex Doolan, Ryan Harris, Moises Henriques, Usman Khawaja, Nathan Lyon, Nic Maddinson, James Pattinson, Chadd Sayers, Peter Siddle, Jordan Silk.

Few surprises - Rogers has come in from nowhere, and will probably open the batting.  Personally am surprised not to see George Bailey  in at least the A squad, particularly as he is over here already playing for Hampshire (and scoring runs already)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: lancasterke on April 24, 2013, 14:00
gayle is amazing

for years there was the question of whether a double ton was possible in 50 over international
gale just showed us it's possible in 20
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on April 28, 2013, 22:32
Absolutely gold this is..

Samit slips over! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w03QKcN4EDs#)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on May 03, 2013, 17:03
Bopara recalled to the England squad for the Champions Trophy.  What the actual f*ck?  WHY IS THIS PAIN INFLICTED UPON US?!?!?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on May 03, 2013, 20:58
Hampshire, starting the defence of their trophy as they mean to go on (barring a dramatic collapse...)  Go on Royals.  Getting it done!  :win
156 for the opening wicket in 17 overs?  No biggie.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on May 03, 2013, 22:31
That was a close finsh, you only beat my Essex by 9wickets. :embarrassed
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on May 04, 2013, 08:32
Well you beat us in the championship earlier in the week, so we're equal.  Kind of...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on May 04, 2013, 12:49
51AllOut wade into the Ravi conundrum...

http://www.51allout.co.uk/2013-05-04-champions-trophy-2013-ravis-return/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.51allout.co.uk/2013-05-04-champions-trophy-2013-ravis-return/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)


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Once everyone had checked it was genuine, and not another jape from a selection panel notoriously fond of practical jokery, the initial disgust and despair became a more general fog of confusion. Why, they cried, is that useless bastard back in again?

ps. if you're not familiar with the work of these fella's, it's gold  :)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on May 17, 2013, 06:57
So, day one of the English test summer done and dusted, and slow going it was too.  Kiwi's bowled very well, England batted as though they treading on eggshells - scared of getting bowled out quickly and accused of being complacent again.  Never fear however, golden boy Root will get a hundred today  ;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: lancasterke on May 17, 2013, 20:18
dull test so far, slow scoring, england batted poorly, NZ batting ok, but not great. looks like a draw pending a batting collapse from somewhere.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Arb on May 18, 2013, 03:10
lolz, read bottom up.

David Warner ‏@davidwarner31

@malcolmconn putting Up with your sh*t talk why would anyone want to do that.

@malcolmconn absolute goose. Haha. Journos exactly, proves our point. Believe anything. Bahahaha anything For money these people.

@malcolmconn have a look at you, your a fool writing back thinking your talking to a wannabe cricketer haha.

@malcolmconn have a look at yourself.

@malcolmconn are you still talking you old fart, no wonder know one buys your paper.

@malcolmconn no wonder people Don't buy your sh*t.

@malcolmconn keep writing paper talk trash for a living champ only thing you will ever do.

@RichieBenaud_ It's 930am in the morning the articles have been written already.

@branners31 Y delete all the journos do is bring all is down.

Cash cow!!!! The owners deserve a lot more then what we have been playing this year. We need to be better.

@malcolmconn wow champ all you do is bag people for a living and you say cricket is a real job!!! Bit rich CHAMP!!

@malcolmconn coming from you champion all you do is talk sh*t as well. What about encouraging Aus players rather then bagging them.
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David Warner David Warner ‏@davidwarner31 3h

Wow @crashcraddock1 some smart journo who thinks he can bring Down people. Well done CHAMP!!

@Angus_Marshall9 @Uppercut11 it's called sick of being woken up by crap tweets and articles like @crashcraddock1 crap. Get a life mate

@TheStooge2 @crashcraddock1 All he did was talk sh*t about the greats now he sucks up there ass. Talk more crap why don't you.

@ando7373 @crashcraddock1 does he really want us to start about that because we can.

@ando7373 @crashcraddock1 all he does is talk sh*t about people. Get a life mate. All u do is bag people what about your faults in life.

Shock me @crashcraddock1 talking sh*t about ipl jealous pr*ck. Get a real job. All you do is bag people. #getalife
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on May 18, 2013, 08:37
If Boganity was a form cricket he'd be in the HoF by now.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on May 18, 2013, 20:56
Lord's test set up very nicely for tomorrow.  Great fightback from the Kiwi's towards the end of the day, shame for England that Root couldn't see it through to the close - in both innings his dismissal has sparked a collapse.  If New Zealand can knock England over quickly tomorrow morning, and be chasing 220-230 (lead currently 205), then we've got one hell of a chase on our hands, particularly if Rutherford gets off to a flyer. 

This is why test cricket is so great - a slow start, but building nicely into a cracking game (and given how even it has been, hopefully a good rest of series as well). 

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on May 19, 2013, 11:51
Well both sides read the script perfectly - England all out for 213, so New Zealand need 238 to win.  Southee finishes with 6 wickets, match figures of 10/108.

Game on!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on May 19, 2013, 14:39
dull test so far, slow scoring, england batted poorly, NZ batting ok, but not great. looks like a draw pending a batting collapse from somewhere.

Sure that collapse was beyond anything either you or I probably imagined, but that is why Test Cricket is so irresistible.  As a friend of mine said on twitter, 'After weeks of IPL popcorn, it's so good to sit down to a full Test Match banquet'.  Excellently even Test Match, ultimately decided by an irrepressible bowling performance from England today - got to really feel for Southee who bowled superbly.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: lancasterke on May 20, 2013, 17:12
great bowling from anderson and broad.

broad needs to improve his consistency but when he's good he's very good.

it's pretty rare to see so many capitulations in such a short time, every innings featured a collapse (but NZ won the award for best collapse by collapsing from the gun rather than scoring some runs and then losing the last 5/6/7 wickets cheaply)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Zam on May 20, 2013, 18:44
Adam Gilchrist bowling avg is awesome at the IPL.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: lancasterke on May 23, 2013, 09:59
mark boucher averages 6 with the ball in tests
(do you know how his eye is zam?)

why did Gilchrist bowl? injury 5 balls into an over?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on May 28, 2013, 22:22
Compton just isn't good enough quality at the moment, currently the easiest decision may actually be to make a like for like swap with Carberry coming in for Compton. Carberry's 100 against us in the recent YB 40 game was pure brilliance and he has always just been skirting around on the fringes of selection.

Compton can go back to Somerset and hope to find his form from last season, if he performs for Somerset then I think he will certainly be picked for the Ashes, unfortunately there is a big gulf between the 4 day game and the Ashes..

Root up the order would cause least disruption, but it would mean leaving Bairstow in. I don't believe he has shown enough to prove himself ready for the Ashes. He chips in but he has not done enough to cement his place in a team made up of individuals who on their own are of a very high batting calibre, especially with KP fit.

England's bowling always looks strong at home, yet unless it starts performing consistently away it will never really reach its full potential and become the lethal weapon it can be.

After watching just about every match of the IPL (and yes I loved just about every minute of it :fp) I am licking my lips at the prospect of the Champions Trophy. There is no clear favourite and the beauty of this competition is that there are really no second chances and that is tough when you are up against the best teams in the world. Teams like WI have some really strong players and nearly everyone bar NZ seems to be on the same level.

Cooks' decision to declare :fp

He is lucky he got away with it, but what in the world was he thinking. First and foremost he wins the game, then he goes looking .
The record successful chase is something 418 or something and this was a NZ side with batting which is as vulnerable as it gets. Still overall combining the two series the NZers made a real good showing of themselves and should be happy as there are signs of improvement. Their batting is technically awful but has potential and their fast bowlers are very promising..

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on May 28, 2013, 22:49
McCullum is a decent captain, but I am not sure about his batting atm, he is good but he only got one game for the struggling KKRs in the IPL. Taylor is a really good player, I really like Fulton and Williamson and Rutherford have grown on me. Guptil has been a disaster and it seems like his turn on the internation stage is slowly slipping away. I remember there was a time very recently when NZ batting and Guptil were synonymous.

Vettori would bring a lot to the team, especially in the batting department in fact. They would benefit greatly from someone like him batting at 8 and shoring up their tail, especially with Southee then coming in and 9 and he isn't half a bad batsmen himself.

Their pace attack is up there with most other test teams and Martin/a waning Vettori are handy themselves.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on June 04, 2013, 06:53
Feel kind of bad for Trott in all this.  His best one day innings, and completely overshadowed, and also completely unsupported by his team mates.  New Zealand played it superbly - positive and solid until 40 overs, then an explosion with wickets in hand.  Basically, what England always try to do, but never manage! 

The Kiwi batting was undoubtedly helped by the woeful Woakes and Dernbach.  Woakes hasn't got the pace to be penetrating at this level, and Dernbach is just crap and hopefully has played his last game for England.  I think I am right in saying he has the worst economy rate in one day history for players who have played at least 20 ODI's (or something like that). 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on June 04, 2013, 16:34
I can't imagine it ever happening

Have had some free time this afternoon and am watching the Australia - India game..

Karthik seems to be playing his way into the India team. My ideal Indian team would be Vijay, Dhawan, Kohli, Sharma, Raina, Jadeja, Dhoni in terms of their batting. That means no Karthik who is unlucky that he has Dhoni barring his chances of getting in as a keeper, especially as unlike other captain - keepers (Sanga/ABDV) Dhoni seems to like keeping the gloves (Pardon the pun) even when playing alongside other keepers. He is looking good himself. I would take Vijay out, he didn't perform in the IPL and he needs to do more to deserve his place in the ODI team, though he was fantastic against Australia in the last series.

And India must be really happy about how their bowling is firing at least against this below par Australia team. Yadav is expensive and I was sorely disappointed with his performance in the IPL but he sure has pace and when he fires he looks great. B Kumar is a very good bowler as well, great control and amazingly consistent and Ishant is coming off the back of . With their spinners usually the strong part of their bowling attack and in Ashwin and Jadeja they have 2 strong spinners well India could be confident going into the tournament, if their batting doesn't let them down.

Australia meanwhile have a very promising bowling attack, they will be disappointed with how they bowled towards the end of the innings but Starc is a real talent, Johnson is a strong limited overs bowler and McKay looks pretty good. Their batting without Clarke will always be a problem, Watson can hold it up sometimes, but he is not all that consistent himself and Warner looks everything but in touch atm. Problems for them and they will be relying on a Clarke who has not player in some while and who is doubtful for the England match to propel their batting and their team throughout the tournament.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on June 04, 2013, 16:37
Interesting idea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/22763892



Post Merge: June 04, 2013, 16:30
Have to think that Broad and Finn will come in for those two for the Champions Trophy if they are fit and need them to be to have any chance.

I guess the side (fitness aside) will be: Cook, Bell, Trott, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Bresnan, Broad, Swann, Anderson, Finn

Would love to see Prior in at six but not going to happen.

If one of them is not fit, I do see Bopara or someone coming in. Cook hinted at possibly moving away from the 6 batsmen, 5 bowlers combination. Yet as England do not have any proper all rounders they are limited in what they can do. Having Bopara along with aid from Root and Trott possibly as a 5th and 6th bowler is not really good enough. So tough choices for Cook, yet it is clear that our batting is not deep enough atm, especially as our top order is not performing.

I would personally like to see Luke Wright come in, don't know why but.. yeh
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on June 06, 2013, 20:39
Buttler's innings was unreal.  Sure it was a dead rubber, but some of those shots were ridiculous.  He and Morgan saved England big time, but does kind of show what they are trying to do, however, it relies on the top 3 setting that platform and getting to the 40th over on 220-3, something I don't back them to do that often.  We miss Pietersen so much - if he was batting in the top 3, it would start to look vaguely promising again...

Elsewhere, Compton has scored an unbeaten hundred for Somerset today, good for him and does his Ashes hopes no harm.  Chopra another opener in form - 190 odd, and Adams also played nicely against Kent (although I am biased in his case).  Roll on the Ashes!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on June 06, 2013, 21:16
Precisely DOTP. We can't  challenge without some substantial contributions from the top order and due to their relatively "steady" run rate, they need to justify it with runs and a lot of them. With Morgan in form though our whole batting lineup changes, if he proves himself at the beginning of the tournament I pray that England have the presence of mind to move up the order where he can have more influence. Cook also needs to step up, especially as he can score at a fast rate when playing well.

I am not exactly a fan of Ravi and his innings did nothing to dispel my opinion of his batting, but the fact is that I don't think England would have come anywhere near our final score if he wasn't batting as I don't believe Buttler would have been able to perform as he did if he had come in when Bopara came in. Still I don't see any solution but to play 6 batsmen and 5 specialist bowlers. Tredwell has put himself in the reckoning, but we won't play a second spinner unless in unusual circumstances.

South Africa's bowling looked woeful today without Steyn and they will be desperate for him to return if they want to have any chance of getting out of their group. India's batting lineup is incredibly in theory, just it is so rare to see everyone performing.

Also got myself tickets to the semi final at the Oval today, so pleased about that.  :niceday
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on June 06, 2013, 21:36

Also got myself tickets to the semi final at the Oval today, so pleased about that.  :niceday
Nice one - hope the weather stays good for you!  The thing with Buttler is, he has played the longer innings for Somerset, so it's not as if he simply can't bat for more than 5 overs.  Theoretically, he should be well suited to the middle overs as well - quick between the wickets,strong wrists to manoeuvre the ball around, ability to clear the rope at will, but maybe he's too immature (in terms of international cricket) to take his county form into the international game just yet.  Agree re Morgan, if England want to do well in this tournament, he needs to fire - capable of the x factor innings over a longer period of time.  Bopara's bowling is useful - certainly adds a different dimension to woeful Woakes. 

Probable team:
Cook
Bell
Trott
Root
Morgan
Bopara/Tredwell
Buttler
Bresnan
Swann
Broad
Anderson

I like the idea of playing two spinners, but not going to happen.  I also think it's a shame that Bairstow hasn't been given a run out over the course of these 3 games - suspect he is a better ODI player than Root, and would offer something different at 4 - Root is too much in the mould of Cook/Bell/Trott I fear...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on June 06, 2013, 22:37
Hard to say.  Stokes at Durham is supposedly the next big thing, but blotted his copybook with the Lions in the winter, and not sure his bowling is up to scratch.  I'm a big fan of Barker at Warwickshire - left arm quick, but more of a bowler who can bat (although did smash 120 odd today - imho a better bowler than Woakes).  Samit Patel?  In form with both bat and ball atm...  Chris Jordan at Sussex would be another possibility - can bowl at 90mph plus, and batting at 7 (and getting runs) in their Championship side. 

Not a huge pool to pick from (that I can think of off the top of my head) and none of these are really on England's radar atm I don't think...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on June 12, 2013, 19:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWAjPDBl818

David Warner should be shown this clip
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on July 03, 2013, 14:26
Sam Agarwal scores the first triple century in Varsity history, and does it at better than a run a ball.  Bonkers.  Oxford declare on 550/7.

Now for Cambridge to collapse in a heap...   :D

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on July 03, 2013, 14:40
I always check up cricinfo's player stats when I am on there.

Steve Smith imo would be a great candidate for shoring up the middle order, he played really well in India and anyways Australia are short of middle order batsmen full stop.

Shame the England match got downgraded, maybe they should have forfeited and then started up again by playing a friendly, that would have meant Bresnan could have registered his first century since 2007.

Rogers is a no brainer, he could become the star of the tour, he has been absolute quality for Middlesex for quite some time now and if he can make Watson play as he can we now have a series on our hands..
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on July 06, 2013, 10:46
I think Australia will do worse than before.

Watson should be no where near the team. Niether should Warner at the moment. Don't think Cowan should be shafted and Siddle needs to improve? Bloody Boof. :roll
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on July 17, 2013, 12:23
So, second test starts tomorrow, with lots of questions in the air. 
Can Australia build on their promising performance at Trent Bridge?  The pitch should help them a bit more - more pace for Pattinson and Starc.  How united is the team really?  Apparently Clarke called Watson 'a cancer' during the Arthur regime.  Can their batsmen score enough runs...?

For England, the big issue is whether any bowler other than the peerless Anderson can take a wicket?  Finn vs Onions vs Bresnan?  For my money, I'd pick Finn for this test - home ground, good record, more of a threat that Bresnan for certain. 

In any case, let's hope it's another cracking test, and with less DRS related controversy that the first one...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on July 17, 2013, 20:51
Finn is the better bowler I don't think there is much doubt about that. So in my opinion England should go with him, of course Finn may not be bowling as well as he could and Bresnan has qualities Finn does not have, but I watched him take a 5 for at Lords a little while back and if he can bowl anywhere near to that I would take his performance any day.

I am getting really excited to see Chris Tremlett being talked about.. Ok it is all speculation, but he is just my ideal type of bowler and a quality one at that.

Anderson has been getting a lot of hype, but however much I don't like him Stuart Broad on his day can be just as devastating and Finn is not half bad either. Though Anderson is carrying the attack currently, he has not been the sole facet of the English attack this past 2 years or so and I think people need to remember that.

I am also looking forward to see more of the Aussies opening partnership, it is an exciting one and one that I personally think can go far. Rogers will surely make a big score somewhere along the line and he has already acquited himself well on his arrival on the big stage. Cowan's place is under a bit of scrutiny, he was ill during the last test but he got pushed out of the opening spot and there is always Ol' Dave Warner there to take his place off him if his form dips past a certain point.

And if the Aussies top order can get amongst the runs a bit more then the contributions of the lower order could be the ones which turn the game in their favour. Every single one of their bowlers are solid batsmen and that is one thing they have over England - albeit a little thing (which could be evened up to a degree if Bresnan comes in, but they still will probably have the upper hand).


Still I have tickets for 2 days of the Oval test.. so there is a little voice telling me that I want this to go down to the wire.  :embarrassed

And though this thread has been quiet.. Lancs have been on a roll the last couple of games and are well in contention for making the quarters. Though it seems like the Old Trafford pitch they are using is just a bit too much suited to batsmen. :fp
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: DinZ on July 18, 2013, 00:28
will be interesting to see, i think England will drop Finn. they have been quick to correct issues in past and think they will do so again even with 'Home advantage'

And like Cyivel, and it seems unlike most cricket fans (or is that just Ram), i like Bresnan and want to see him plsy
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on July 21, 2013, 08:58
What a calamitous few days for Australia, they have been well and truly b*tch slapped all around Lord's.  My prediction for today is England bat for the first hour, Root get to 200, Bairstow/Prior/Swan/Broad have license to swing from the hip at the other end, declare with an hour to bowl at the Aussies, who will be 3 down by lunch.  The footmarks outside the left hander's off stump are huge, and Swann will be licking his lips - all over by tonight potentially.

At the start of the series, I obviously wanted England to win, but I also wanted it to be tight - Trent Bridge was perfect.  However, one sided as this test match has been, Australia have been so poor (with the bat particularly) that I have found myself wanting them to get absolutely smashed.  They're woeful, and if they lose by under 350 runs I will be amazed.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on July 28, 2013, 06:02
347 run loss- you better be amazed! :p

Going into this series I was hoping we could lose with a bit of honour- 2-1, or 3-2, giving the team a bit of confidence going into the home series, but that doesn't look the case. I think it'll end up being 4-0 or 3-1. Surely we won't be whitewashed.

I think we'll be a lot more competitive if we bat first. Swann is just too good for the batsmen, batting first on pristine pitches may negate that to an extent.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on July 28, 2013, 09:17
Heard via our long lost and greatly missed prodigal brother Ramses  :hug that my current fave Protea  had one spectacular bowling over the other day, and not the good kind.. Oh Robbie P :vanish

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-07-26/top-stories/40814592_1_sixes-robin-peterson-van-bunge

At least it was Herscelle Gibbs who smashed the other guy, a wee little balance in that, I'd like to think :meow
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on July 29, 2013, 05:01
I think the ODI team is showing the problems that South Africa may face a couple of years down the line with their test set up. Now that they aren't available in the ODI team, you can see just how much the batting depended on Smith and Kallis. The young South African batsmen, guys like Ingram and Behaardien, don't look very good. In 3-4 years time you could see South Africa mirror the current Australian team, or perhaps the current Sri Lankan team- very reliant on a couple of senior batsmen (Amla and de Villiers), not a lot else outside of that. It'll be really interesting to see how they do in the UAE later this year against Pakistan. South Africa looked really fragile against Pakistan this year at the 2nd test (in Cape Town, I think?), the batsmen were outclassed by Ajmal, and the bowlers struggled for penetration without the new ball.

Although as long as Steyn is around they'll stand at least a 50% chance of winning every match they enter, regardless of how weak the batting may become.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on July 29, 2013, 09:37
Yeah, I actually went to Newlands for that 2nd test, it was great fun. I watched a little yesterday, gotta say I wasn't surprised when AB went for 4... Who knows, maybe the guys can step up over time? Here some pics from that test, Irfan stretching that l-o-o-o-n-g leg :-) and one of Steyn at an ODI v NZ in Paarl when they were here this year (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/29/e5upyren.jpg)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on July 29, 2013, 12:17
Quote
347 run loss- you better be amazed! :p

Well I was close! 

I kind of hope KP doesn't play at Old Trafford - really want Taylor to get another shot at Test cricket and to score big runs.  Think England will be unchanged apart from KP/Taylor.  Playing two spinners would completely alter the team, and let's face it, Swann is more than capable of destroying the Aussies on his own, especially if Old Trafford turns as much as it has in the past.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on July 30, 2013, 04:06
Swann? You could take 20 wickets with Kevin Pietersen's off spin :D.

2015 World Cup schedule out. The Sydney matches are disappointing:

Feb 27- South Africa vs. West Indies
Mar 4- Australia vs. Sri Lanka
Mar 8- Australia vs. Sri Lanka
Mar 13- England vs. Q2
Mar 18- Quarter-final 1
Mar 26- Semi-final 2

Why do Sri Lanka play here twice? I would have attended both Australian matches if there was a different opponent. I might just end up going twice because I love watching Jayawardene bat, but I'm not even sure if he'll still be playing in 2 years time. :S
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: hoerpi on July 31, 2013, 11:39
Pretty sure that Jayawardene will play, Sangakkara aswell probably...

Things are not looking good for Australia tomorrow, Smith with back problems and Lyon to probably play his first game. Would've needed more time like in India where he was good in the last test.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 01, 2013, 09:01
KP looks like being fit, so no Taylor.  Asutralia - who know's what team they will pick.  Warner will come in, but for who...?  Rogers/Hughes/Smith? 

Prediction - Australia will be much more competitive (let's face it, they can't be any worse), but England to win fairly comfortably in the end.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 01, 2013, 13:01
That decision literally has me shaking in rage. Kumar Dharmasena is such an incompetent *insert swears*.

Still, 2012 ICC Umpire of the Year. A competition that must have as much integrity as the IPL.

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 01, 2013, 13:06
(http://the-cricket.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Sri-Lankan-umpire-Kumar-Dharmasena-poses-with-his-award-after-being-Umpire-of-the-Year-award-during-the-LG-ICC-Awards-in-Colombo-on-September-15-2012-.jpg)

There he is lads, best umpire in the world, apparently.  :pizzedoff:
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: AG on August 01, 2013, 13:08
it was a pretty shocking decision
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: thrawn on August 01, 2013, 13:50
Worst decision in test history. He should never be allowed near any international match ever again.

The decision was so bad that it is hard to come to a conclusion that doesn't involve him being paid for the call.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 01, 2013, 16:14
What the worst thing about it was that it was Khawaja who got sawn off. Now, he can't play spin whatsoever (the best he can do, as he showed at Lords, is tough out a 50), so it's very likely that he'll fall cheaply again in the second innings because the pitch will be turning more by then. I don't think he'll cross 10 runs for the match.

This was his big chance today, with the flat pitch, with a guy up the other end flaying the attack, relaxing all pressure on Khawaja, to get a career saving century. Now he's going to be on the outer, and this time, I don't think he'll be able to fight his way back in. For some reason the Australian management have it in for Usman (as they do, to a far greater extent, with Cosgrove) and so any failure of his, no matter how unjust, is pounced upon. Remember how he got dropped from the ODI team this summer, after getting run out by Hughes (Hughes, to me, almost deliberately ran Khawaja out) twice? Remember in India where he got dropped over homeworkgate despite not having played a single match?

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on August 02, 2013, 04:56
Yeah, I'm a multi ID fark nugget after my last pc purge means I can't remember the login details.

Lollers, what a load of sh*t. Worst decision in the history..... let's not even get into the home umpires era (1970-71 Ashes, that's sh*t umpiring). Let's see the DRS era
http://archive.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=246471

Clear evidence that suggests Kallis wasn't out yet given (I remember it, his hand was not on the bat). Mr Rod Tucker, a waste of space in the international panel (thereby not allowing another non Englishman or Australian to be part of it and eligible for the Ashes), gives it out despite the hand clearly not being on the bat. Rod Tucker was clearly paid there!

Second, how did South Africa react to that? They went off to twitter and posted that decision sucks ass and shot off a letter to the ICC immediately. Oh wait, that's Australia and England whinging again. South Africa didn't comment and offered feedback after the series.

Khawaja's decision was poor, no doubt, but if these two teams kept their panties in the bunch it belonged instead of spraying their spunk where it doesn't, then just possibly (outrageous thinking here), there would have been less pressure on the umpires to adhere to certain rules that are made on the fly rather than just the right decision being made. That decision, FMD if it isn't, is a direct reaction to Trott's dismissal.

Post Merge: August 02, 2013, 05:06
Another thing that has to be addressed but will never be, 8 of the 12 umpires are Australian or English, leaving 4 umpires eligible for 10 tests, and any three of them have to be part of every match. How does the ICC/ECB/ACB think that will improve umpiring standards? Those eight include two of the worst umpires in international cricket atm, a Rod Tucker and a Steve Davis.

Anyway, Steve Smith out plumb in front yesterday... bookies not covering the second session in their payments.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 02, 2013, 08:42
Khawaja's dismissal a terrible call.  Equally, the Smith caught behind appeal later on - no hotspot, but a massive noise which couldn't have been anything other than an edgs, yet not given.  There is no clarity, and you can tell the players are losing confidence in the system as are fans.

However, to focus on cricket for a moment, christ was that a day the series needed.  Australia have finally come to the party, and it means England will have to really work for their series victory.  Thought Bresnan bowled well (based on the evidence of the TV highlights at least), and Pup was magisterial.  Awesome player, and credit to Rogers and Smith as well - have ensured their team is well set to get a big total. 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 04, 2013, 07:46
If the follow-on isn't avoided by England, I hope Clarke see's the bigger picture and doesn't enforce it. Defeat in this series means nothing. The ultimate victor of this cycle will be the team that triumphs in Australia, because of how close together the series are. Losing here can be undone just a few months later.

Anyway, to continue this point that building up to the next Ashes is now the priority, enforcing the follow on and forcing the bowlers to bowl 200+ overs in a row; and then asking them to back up 3 days later at Chester-le-Street, will shatter them. It'll certainly get Harris crocked again. We can't afford injuries, going into the home Ashes series, we need everybody to be at peak fitness and exposure to match conditions.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 05, 2013, 12:55
Kumar Dharmasena is a woeful umpire.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Joachim on August 05, 2013, 16:56
Say what you want about the English weather, but it has just sent the Aussies packing  :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 05, 2013, 16:59
Thanks for coming Australia.

(http://www.swapansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/index.6.jpg) + (http://whyteandbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/The-Ashes-Urn.jpg)
 = (http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/filepicker%2FQ9rrprgQiSNKRRqpWh3v_winning_charlie_sheen_.jpg)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 05, 2013, 17:02
So it's over and no more games? That's FB!!!

2 games left in the series - it's a best of 5 contest.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Joachim on August 05, 2013, 17:12
Yeah but if England have won, what's the point of playing those 2 games?

They haven't won. It was a draw so that means its 2-0 to England
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Joachim on August 05, 2013, 17:24
Just seen on the Sports News channel that England have retained the 'Ashes'. Unless retained has a new meaning then England have won.

Nope, they've retained the Ashes. They haven't won them.

You are American, aren't you  :D :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 06, 2013, 04:09
Oh dear BYOP  :D. It goes on until all five matches are completed, regardless of the score. Once a team has won/retained the Ashes, then they usually push for total domination by trying to whitewash the opposition. Australia won the first three matches in 2006 and went on to win the remaining two. I suppose it's comparable to someone like Eddy Merckx not just content winning the Overall but trying to win the other jerseys, as well. There's no real need for it except pride and money. And ranking points.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 06, 2013, 10:22
And if that wasn't bad enough already B-bop, there's a couple of T20's plus 5 ODI's.  And then just after that has finished, England go to Australia this winter to do the whole thing all over again...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Joachim on August 06, 2013, 10:59
No
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Joachim on August 06, 2013, 11:13
 :D :D

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 06, 2013, 11:35
Do they always have the 'ashes' in England then in Australia pretty much straight after?

No, this is a special occasion. Basically what the problem with the traditional hosting cycle (it went like 1997- England, 1998/99 Australia, 2001- England, 2002/03 Australia, 2005 England, 2006/07 Australia, 2009 England, 2010/11 Australia) was that every time England came over to Australia, it would ruin their preparation for the World Cup (which is 50 over, rather than 5 day, cricket), as each of '99, '03 and '07 had the World Cup just a few weeks/months after the Ashes. With the next World Cup set to be held in 2015, the England & Wales Cricket Board have decided that they've had enough of decades worth of underachievement at the World Cup, and so negotiated with Cricket Australia to have the Australian hosted series brought forward a year. It should never happen again, unless the World Cup schedule gets changed or something.

I doubt there's any real merit to it though. Australia played in those same Ashes series as England did, and it didn't stop them winning 3 World Cups in a row between 1999 and 2007.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 06, 2013, 18:24
Alphabet's right, England were (still are...?) crap at one day cricket.  In my view, it means overkill big time (especially as there will be another Ashes series in England in 2015).  However, as far as the boards are concerned, it means £££££££££ so they're happy.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 07, 2013, 09:59
England have been celebrating. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10227389/Monty-Panesar-fined-for-urinating-on-bouncers.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10227389/Monty-Panesar-fined-for-urinating-on-bouncers.html)

(http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/63/photos/303000/14303.jpg)

Root with a cigarette reminds me of a 15 year old kid trying it to impress his older friends by looking reeeeeaaaaaally cool.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 07, 2013, 10:45
Alphabet's right, England were (still are...?) crap at one day cricket.  In my view, it means overkill big time (especially as there will be another Ashes series in England in 2015).  However, as far as the boards are concerned, it means £££££££££ so they're happy.

Sadly, world cricket is evolving to be an eternal tri-series between Australia, England and India, as the three wealthiest boards and most attractive teams for sponsors. I would bet an entire Motoman that the upcoming World Test Championship will see the rankings doctored with to ensure those three teams qualify (the top 4 ranked test teams will participate).

As cricket fans, we sure like to give it large to the BCCI, but the fact is that CA and the ECB are complicit and just as bad. The trio are destroying cricket at the expense of poor boards that are genuinely interested in test cricket, like South Africa, Pakistan and New Zealand. Sri Lanka and West Indies are only interested in corruption and stealing money; and playing as much T20 league cricket as possible, respectively.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on August 07, 2013, 14:30
I agree with the first part. ECB and ACB are just as bad, but do you really think that Saf and Pak don't have two of the most corrupt boards in world cricket? As for NZ, I missed their giving a crap about tests, cos they're the most aloof who accommodate tests to play 2020s
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on August 09, 2013, 12:23
Nice one Essex, after only qualifying as a third place team for the quarter finals Essex now join Surrey, Hampshire & Northants for the T20 finals day. Nice..
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 11, 2013, 21:42
Ian Bell you beautiful, beautiful beautiful human being.  He's having a series that is every bit as monumental as Cook's last time down under imho.  Not the same quantity of runs, but 3 match winning hundreds (well 2 so far, this one in all likelihood) and that is the true mark of the 'greatness' of an innings.  In contrast, Root's 180 was with his team already well in front and the Aussie bowlers all exhausted.  Bell has scored all of his runs to rescue his side from tricky situations, and completely wrested the momentum away from the Aussies.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 13, 2013, 13:00
So with the series in the bag, will England rest any players/try out a few other options ahead of the winter.  I'm not a fan of trying things just 'because', but it seems prudent to rest a few players who look like they need it.  Anderson hasn't been the same bowler since Trent Bridge, and his fitness and form is vital for the trip Down Under this winter, would give him a break to try and relocate his spark - fast bouncy pitch at the Oval so play Tremlett.    I'd drop Bairstow, and pick Taylor instead - can't see this happening though, the England management love Bairstow. 

As for Australia, who knows.  Khawaja doesn't look test class in the long term in my view - his dismissal yesterday was crap, bowled round his legs in the previous test, and a rash shot (although admittedly victim of a DRS howler) as well in the first innings.  But who do you bring in... Hughes?  Watson's dismissal yesterday was as pathetically predictable as his review.  But he won't get dropped as he is the only all rounder.  Cowan hasn't scored any runs, neither is Wade exactly banging down the door.  Slim pickings indeed. 

Anyone know what Shaun Marsh is up to these days? 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on August 13, 2013, 14:16
So with the series in the bag, will England rest any players/try out a few other options ahead of the winter.  I'm not a fan of trying things just 'because', but it seems prudent to rest a few players who look like they need it.  Anderson hasn't been the same bowler since Trent Bridge, and his fitness and form is vital for the trip Down Under this winter, would give him a break to try and relocate his spark - fast bouncy pitch at the Oval so play Tremlett.    I'd drop Bairstow, and pick Taylor instead - can't see this happening though, the England management love Bairstow. 

As for Australia, who knows.  Khawaja doesn't look test class in the long term in my view - his dismissal yesterday was crap, bowled round his legs in the previous test, and a rash shot (although admittedly victim of a DRS howler) as well in the first innings.  But who do you bring in... Hughes?  Watson's dismissal yesterday was as pathetically predictable as his review.  But he won't get dropped as he is the only all rounder.  Cowan hasn't scored any runs, neither is Wade exactly banging down the door.  Slim pickings indeed. 

Anyone know what Shaun Marsh is up to these days?

at the pub or injured I guess

my guess cowan gets 1 last go at 3 , at least he will not throw his wicket away , I also think Paine will come in when the poms hit brisbane 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 15, 2013, 11:56
English fans- Khawaja is a left handed, Australian-Pakistani version of Ian Bell. They've been plagued by the same problems early on in their career- lots of talent and technical skill, weakness against spin exacerbated by facing a world class spinner (Warne for Bell, Swann for Khawaja), loads of pressure on them, and finally, mental weakness. Both are linked by fear- Bell was extremely timid and nervous early on in his career, the same holds true for Usman. If he can get over his fear and play with some confidence, I think he'll finish his career with similar stats to Bell.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 16, 2013, 18:43
Ballance says, 'anything Taylor can do, I can do just as well...'  Currently 96 not out for the England Lions against the Aussies, and no doubt booking his place on the plane to Australia as I type.  Dare I suggest, that seeing as he plays for Yorkshire, this will automatically bump him ahead of Taylor in the pecking order as well?   :(
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Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on August 18, 2013, 09:41
England squad for fifth test:  Cook, Root, Trott, KP, Bell, Bairstow, Prior, Broad, Swann, Anderson, Finn, Tremlett, Kerrigan, Woakes.

So the batting will stay the same, even though KP's fitness is a concern.  Tremlett or Finn to play, can't see them going for 2 spinners - even if the Oval is a dustbowl, and please, PLEASE, anyone but Woakes.
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Post by: Eric on August 20, 2013, 09:28
We should make the return series in Australia fun by each team respectively selecting it's worst possible bowling attack. Australia:

Johnson
Hilfenhaus
Doherty
Fawad Ahmed

England:
Dernbach
Woakes
Onions
Panesar

Clarke and Cook will probably average 300 each. :D
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Post by: Eric on August 21, 2013, 12:20
Only 1 more of these games to go and then the rest of the world can stop laughing at England and Australia.

Nah, there's still a handful of one day matches to get out of the way, then in November we do it all over again in Australia. :)
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Post by: froome19 on August 21, 2013, 14:08
Lovely to see Kerrigan in the team, that makes two Lanc boys in the England XI

I don't know about the persistence with Woakes, I would have picked Tremlett even if Woakes is more of a like for like replacement for Bresnan.

Watson at his most destructive is quite a sight to see and hopefully will spell good things for this finale, especially as I have tickets for tomorrow and am looking forward to seeing some proper cricket.
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Post by: froome19 on August 23, 2013, 17:41
I have been at the oval for today and yesterday (just arrived back now) and what can I say..

Today was boring, really boring England are just trying to survive nothing to catch the eye or suggest England are going for the win. Australia have bowled well especially Siddle and Harris but no aid from the pitch and so we remain as we have been.

Smith I rate highly a very good all round cricketer and Australia's batting seems to be finally coming together lots of chinks to iron out but at least they seem to have their Top 6 more or less sorted.

Unlucky for Simon Kerrigan but he will come back better and far stronger.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on August 27, 2013, 08:24
Kerrigan looked absolutely awful.

This has been a really poor series for the quality of cricket. Australia have been plain rubbish with the bat, England were better but were disappointingly  (and needlessly) defensive. I hope we see a better series in Australia. It doesn't even have to be competitive so long as both teams are playing attacking cricket and giving at least 90% of their max potential; neither of which was the case here.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on August 27, 2013, 09:10
Bell, the Weather and crap over-rates won the series for England.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on August 27, 2013, 12:08
Kerrigan looked absolutely awful.

This has been a really poor series for the quality of cricket. Australia have been plain rubbish with the bat, England were better but were disappointingly  (and needlessly) defensive. I hope we see a better series in Australia. It doesn't even have to be competitive so long as both teams are playing attacking cricket and giving at least 90% of their max potential; neither of which was the case here.
True. I think only one player from the England team averaged above 40, unless it changed after the 5th test.
At one point Sky put up the stats given for the two teams on the screen and you had to guess which team belonged on which side. They had basically identical stats and the only thing which really stood out was the 5 fors which England were 6 - 3 in. Australia also had a dramatically higher run rate and matched England in a number of areas. I certainly felt they had played their way into this series and I think that hopefully will mean a much more combative and intriguing series in Aussie land. The pitches should also hopefully be more receptive and are apparently greener and will be provide much more of a contest

It was a shame about Kerrigan but he is young and his time will come. Nerves and inexperience didn't serve him well this time round. Woakes isn't bad, I wouldn't pick him as a bowler but he is handy as a batsmen and brings some nice balance to the team, as a batting allrounder he may have a future in the test team. Though I would have always picked Tremlett ahead of him and it is exciting to see him back in the England reckoning. It will be also interesting to see the batsmen England take to Australia.. there are some good batsmen on the county ciruit who deserve a chance with that one batting place already free in the team there is a lot to play for.


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I know the fans get a refund for their ticket today but maybe they should have for yesterday

I loved this quotes from Faulkner and not only because I was there on Friday.

I also thoroughly enjoyed Clarke's captaincy, he was so much more inventive than Cook and always on the ball.
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Post by: Tuart on August 27, 2013, 12:22
Did find it amusing when Clarke was trying to set his field, that the Poms were booing for time wasting. What have England been doing for the last 3 tests. :fp
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Capt_Cavman on August 29, 2013, 09:56
Bell, the Weather and crap over-rates won the series for England.
All major factors agreed.

But you seem to have omitted the way Australia used their decision reviews - what was it? 2 out of the first 12 were successful; it's supposed to be for overturning umpires' howlers. And that Australia were crap at cricket.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on August 29, 2013, 11:41
All major factors agreed.

But you seem to have omitted the way Australia used their decision reviews - what was it? 2 out of the first 12 were successful; it's supposed to be for overturning umpires' howlers. And that Australia were crap at cricket.
Australia got better with the reviews as they went along, but they were already out of the running by then and so it didn't really factor. Whilst England started off using them well and kind of tailed off as the series went along.

Also England over the 5 test had less disastrous sessions than Australia did. They were just that bit more consistent and it was those disastrous sessions which lost the Aussies the series.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on August 30, 2013, 12:50
All major factors agreed.

But you seem to have omitted the way Australia used their decision reviews - what was it? 2 out of the first 12 were successful; it's supposed to be for overturning umpires' howlers. And that Australia were crap at cricket.
The first was most valid - omit Bell and replace him with another crabber (Compton) and the teams are very similar in the batting department.
The second didn't really have that much affect, just 3-1 looks better than 3-0.
The third was just bait. :lol (well it is very f.ing annoying too)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on September 09, 2013, 22:37
This ODI series could turn into a routing unless England and Morgan turn it around quickly.
Our batting is capable, but Australia matches it easily and with Johnson bowling consistently over 90 mph in comparison to a trio of Finn, Stokes and Rankin well we don't have much hope. 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on September 10, 2013, 12:57
England's problem is they're picking four bowlers, then finding 10 overs from Bopara, Trott and Root. It doesn't help that one of those four bowlers is more of a batting all rounder than a third seamer.

You can't get away with that in limited overs cricket.  England must play four proper bowlers and one all rounder (or three and two respectively, though that's risky) because the batting is not strong enough to score or chase down 300+ regularly.
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Post by: Ram on September 10, 2013, 14:51
Quality umpiring over in Zimbabwe. Steve Davis has been getting basically every decision wrong.

Caught a post about Ajmal not being a chucker, or being a chucker somehow not diminishing his quality so I'll reply here. Chucktoo is the biggest bloody chucker in cricket at the moment. He's the worst since Murali and the next after him in internationals currently are Ojha (see, no bias. he's just a flipping chucker), Samuels, Shillingford, Williamson, Senenayake and even Utseya. It's against the rules if implemented without bias. Why is it against the rules? Well, otherwise one might as well baseball or javeline, which Chucky already does. Check how much more revs you can get on the ball by chucking. Pivoting the elbow aids in more stability of hand and more revs than the shoulder.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on September 12, 2013, 09:41
Everybody chucks. Literally everybody. Even Fred Spofforth chucked. It is physically impossible to maintain a gun barrel, 0 degree straight elbow while bowling. Check the study that the University of Western Australia published when they launched independent testing of Muralitharan's action.

Let's come to Murali himself. Everybody chucks. Some bend their elbows more, some less, but everybody exceeds 10 degrees, which was double the legal pre-Murali limit, and the only thing that counts (I don't care if somebody bends 90 degrees or 10.000000001, it's all the same). Muralitharan's standard delivery, the off break, was within the newly imposed 15 degree limit and was thus never in question. It was only the doosra that was in question. He did not bowl the doosra for years after being no-balled all those times in Australia, and only resumed bowling it after the ICC changed the rules for him after that UWA study.

Furthermore, anybody who believes that Murali took 800 test wickets because he abused the doosra, as though real life was Brian Lara Cricket '99, needs to spend some more time watching or better yet, playing cricket. The doosra, like any other variation delivery, is lethal only if used extremely rarely. If you rely on your mystery ball alone to take wickets, you will be found out at international level in about 5 minutes. This is why mystery ball spinners like Ajantha Mendis and Sunil Narine are now completely toothless in the long form (not that Narine was ever good at test cricket), because all they can bowl is the doosra. Based on this, I can safely estimate that no more than 10 to 15% of Muralitharan's test wickets came from the doosra. You can take off those 80 odd wickets if you are still convinced that he cheated (which he didn't. It's the umpire's job to no ball a bowler. Murali only cheated a handful of times in his career, and he stopped doing so as soon as he was told what he was doing was illegal, until the rules were changed to accommodate him.) but at the end of the day he still has 700+ wickets taken from pure, 100% legitimate off breaks.

Simple logic. Murali is to bowling what Bradman was to batting. Far and away the best. His feats will never be eclipsed, nor can they be tarnished by people shouting 'CHUCKER'. It is a symbol of his greatness that the rules were changed for a talent as amazing as his.

I'm Australian, by the by, and I believe that Warne is a foulmouthed, arrogant, unsportsmanlike buffoon who hated the vast majority of his own team mates. Oh, and he doped.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on September 12, 2013, 09:46
This is the study:

Portus, M.R., Rosemond, C.D., Rath, D. (2006), Fast bowling arm actions and the illegal delivery law in men's high performance cricket matches, Sports Biomechanics, Volume 5, Issue 2, pp.215-230

Bottom line: Murali passed the ICC test, he passed independent testing by the University of Western Australia and the University of South Australia, he passed testing by Sri Lankan officials (who would no doubt have loved to stick it to him, given that he represents an ethnic minority that the government have oppressed through the most brutal, inhumane ways for decades); and even after doing all that, the ICC still changed the rules. These same studies that were launched as a result of his test results found that every bowler chucks.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Capt_Cavman on September 12, 2013, 09:56
Bottom line Murali chucked. I don't find it that surprising that the laws of cricket didn't take into account someone having a birth defect that affected how much a player can straighten their arm. He may not have technically chucked, but he was clearly bowling in a way that the laws of the game were framed to try and prevent.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on September 12, 2013, 12:22
Wow! Next we'll be calling 1 degree bends as chucking.... Fact is a 5 degree pivot offers little advantage, control or extra revs. 14 offers a lot more. Ajmalian angles offer a lot more. People who say otherwise should realise that it's not BLC 99 and should go outside and play (see, I did it too). Rules were not enforced per letter of current law, more actual law. The bouncer laws were also existent back then.

Second, just Murali's doosra was chucking eh? Ooookay. Murali chucked and the rules were adapted for him. It was visibly discernible that he chucked, 15 degrees came because of him. All 800 were of doubt, not just 70.

Fair doosra bowler? Shaqi. Check his action, not much of a doubt there.

Mendis is not Murali. Simple, he doesn't spin it enough and he isn't all that good. Mendis is the new era John Gleeson. Guess what happened to John Gleeson after a couple of years?

Narine, another chucker.


Bottom line: Murali passed the ICC test, he passed independent testing by the University of Western Australia and the University of South Australia, he passed testing by Sri Lankan officials (who would no doubt have loved to stick it to him, given that he represents an ethnic minority that the government have oppressed through the most brutal, inhumane ways for decades); and even after doing all that, the ICC still changed the rules. These same studies that were launched as a result of his test results found that every bowler chucks.
Now this is just ignorant bullsh*t. You'd think according to that that there's no famous Tamilian in Sri Lanka. I say this despite being a Tamil.

Also funny that you stick it into the ICC for being the bcci's lapdog but seem to forget that at the time it was their clout which helped these legislations.
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Post by: Ram on October 10, 2013, 05:14
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/heat-on-drs-as-nine-axes-hot-spot-infrared-tool-for-ashes-20131009-2v8pq.html

So they pay 400-500 million Aus $ for television rights but struggle to cough up $10k per day. I definitely believe them.

Whingy strops really has no boundaries. Not to be outdone by Cricket Australia's sooking, the BCCI upped its game
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Cricket/CricketNews/Ian-Chappell-snubs-BCCI-won-t-do-commentary-on-India-Aus-series/Article1-1132292.aspx

then again, the same Chappelli that worked for Packer who sacked Marsh because of criticism
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on November 02, 2013, 07:01
ha ha Cameron White getting runs and wickets in the sheild

Gold
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Post by: Tuart on November 02, 2013, 11:18
That's what happens when you create a mickey mouse ODI tournament for a month
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on November 18, 2013, 00:22
Some good banter in the cricketing world at the moment  :evil:

Loved the Sachin festival, it is very obvious he isn't a David Beckham figure or even a Ryan Giggs but rather a genuinely good and nice guy. And exceptionally talented to boot.

West Indies were tame, almost verging on pathetic and whilst India's spinners aren't half bad, they should have fared better against a bowling attack which isn't famed for its fast bowling prowess. They have to go back to the drawing board, but I am afraid we won't be seeing much from the Windies in the longer format of the game. They seem to be blighted by the T20 mania and the results are very clear when watching them capitulate at the hands of the Indians.


And then onto the Ashes..

Australia look quite the part, a strong team and rather than doubts hovering over all their batsmen like in England, now they are settled and ready. Bailey has been performing exceptionally, his 4/5 day pedigree isn't that great, but logic suggests that he can transfer his ODI form to Tests and how he has been batting in ODIs has been quite simply brilliant. If he fires along with another Aussie I like, Steve Smith then the Aussies have a lower order which has every chance of rivalling England's. And their top order also looks settled, Rogers, Warner, Watson, Clarke.. something like that, there are no Hughes, Khawaja or Cowans that have been in indifferent form and now need to prove themselves going into an Ashes series.. !! Rather established talent, even if I am still not so sure on Warner and Watson.

And England.. Carberry means moving Root down to 6, which I think is a great move. He shouldn't be opening at this stage in his career, England showed that. Tremlett, Finn, Rankin? It will be Finn probably, not Rankin.. a slight chance Tremlett, but everyone knows that Finn is the best of those three and the one with the most international experience. He is a bit unreliable, but get over it. He takes wickets by the dozens and that is that.

And an honourary mention to the SA V Pakistan series..
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on November 18, 2013, 06:03
This series should be a lot better than the one just recently played in England, but I wouldn't say that Aus are even close to their old swagger. Smith, Warner and Watson (again) are starting to play to their potential. With Clarke's back in doubt they need to focus, all three are senior players now and will be looked to. Bailey should be a good call up, certainly overdue, he's a smart cricketer who's worked hard to be where he is. The Aus quicks didn't really impress in India, lacked bite and imagination, that could cost them against Cook, Trott and especially Pieterson on  very true decks like Brisbane, Adelaide and Melbourne.

The English bowling line up doesn't quite look settled, with the decision on the last quick to be made. Finn or Tremlett are capable enough, with Finn having a slight edge but Tremlett is no pie chucker either. I haven't seen too much of Rankin but what I have seen he's not on the same level as the rest. Anderson, Broad and Co. should be able to carry who ever they go with though.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on November 21, 2013, 18:21
Happy Tremlett is in, even if Finn is better :P

Australia's batting lineup, got a walloping.

But England better hope Mitch Johnson's bowling isn't as good as his batting, otherwise they may be following the same path as the Aussie batsmen.
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Post by: Froome's Thoughts on November 21, 2013, 18:46
Before the 1st day's play...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZhFrqXCUAA-Cl3.jpg)

After the 1st day's play...
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71246000/jpg/_71246341_020070461-1.jpg)

Great performance by Broad silencing the Gabba and using the pressure and hostility to his advantage. England really have to stop letting the Australian lower order giving their team a credible total after Broad and co. have done the hard work against the top order. It happened to many times at home in the summer with the likes of Siddle, Agar, Haddin, Starc and Pattinson getting cheap runs late on in the innings' and I fear that the same think in Australia could cost England the series. Thought Cook kept Swann on a bit to long yesterday when he was getting belted around the park by Johnson - maybe that's something to think about, although the fat bowlers were probably a bit tired and are stll getting used to the blazing heat.

Tomorrow's day play should answer a lot of questions that have arisen:
Is Carberry that right man to open with Cook?
Can Pietersen play like the old Pietersen?
Will Cook and Trott play like they did in the last away series or like they did in the summer?
Can Australia's bowlers contain the likes of Cook and Pietersen?
And what about Mitchel Johnson's temperament?
Not to mention Prior will be feeling the heat after a poor summer with the bat...

Intriguing to say the least...
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Post by: just some guy on November 21, 2013, 18:52
Someone please remind me why Australia hate Broad.

Well he is English.

And he hit the ball , someone caught it , he waited for the umpires to do their job, they fliped up, he was not out.

But mainly cause oz are sh*t so the press and boof are looking for ways to take the heat off the team
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Post by: Froome's Thoughts on November 21, 2013, 19:02
It will be Finn probably, not Rankin.. a slight chance Tremlett, but everyone knows that Finn is the best of those three

Just read this now. Did u seriously think that? Everyone knew it was going to be Tremlett. Clarke said it last week himself. And Tremlett is definitely better than Finn.

Disappointed in you froome19, all that time on cricinfo and then that comment...
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Post by: Archieboy on November 21, 2013, 19:03
Stuart Broad dosent walk very often, but when he dose walk its all over the Australian team...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on November 22, 2013, 06:35
How do you like them apples Archie froome * 2

 :P
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on November 22, 2013, 07:07
 :'(

Meh, dose of reality is good for us.

England have always been prone to batting collapses, especially in foreign conditions and in high pressure situations. More worringly for me, is that Warner and Rogers seem to be going well right now.. too well. If their batting clicks and the Aussie top order gain momentum. I would start feel my high perch rocking a bit.

And FT, I didn't really believe the tabloids.. sorry ;). It was only after my post, but the rumours became more substantial.
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Post by: 42x16ss on November 22, 2013, 07:17
It seems that Rogers and Warner have finally realised where off stump is and that they don't have to swing at everything that moves. Not getting carried away though, as Aus are at least as prone to a collapse as Eng. I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw from Lyon, Johnson and the ever reliable Harris today. Lyon getting nice overspin and drift, Johnson bowling with good pace and fire. Johnson does need to tighten his line and length a bit before Melbourne and Adelaide though, otherwise he's going to get belted all parts  :shh

I was relieved to see Englands main four (Cook, Trott, Pietersen and Bell) all go fairly cheap, that won't happen often this summer. That young opener Carberry looks good though! Stuart Broad seems to be turning into a true bowling all rounder as well.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on November 22, 2013, 07:23
ha ha Cameron White getting runs and wickets in the sheild

Gold

Don't laugh too hard, it'll probably be enough to get him recalled to the bl**dy test squad if Bailey or Smith (again) fail and even a one eyed Victorian (most of them) wouldn't want that to happen :angry
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Post by: Archieboy on November 22, 2013, 07:32
Slaugtered at the Gabbatoir :shh :shh :shh
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Froome's Thoughts on November 22, 2013, 13:08
That young opener Carberry looks good though!

Carberry is 33 -  an experienced cricketer!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on November 22, 2013, 13:17
I was relieved to see Englands main four (Cook, Trott, Pietersen and Bell) all go fairly cheap, that won't happen often this summer. That young opener Carberry looks good though! Stuart Broad seems to be turning into a true bowling all rounder as well.
Johnson causing real problems, but I firmly believe that if the England batsmen get their act together they can face off against any bowling attack in the world relatively comfortably.. A big it though.

Indeed a very sound point 42.. two or even three of those may not be in form and will struggle for runs. But all 4? I somehow doubt it, it maybe Trott this time, or maybe Pietersen but there is too much quality in that top order for it all just to dry up.

And Carberry young? I wouldn't say so..  Unless you call 33 young. ;) (edit: FT got there before me)
He has had a lot of injuries even one career threatening one just two years ago, bad counties and harsh luck to contend with, but he now has his chance after previously making a cameo and disappointing appearance in one test against Bangladesh.

Good choice by the selectors. Compton had gone back to country cricket and was churning out the runs. An average of around 49, whilst Carberry's this year was around 40. Yet they went with Carberry, a more positive player with a lot of promise. Carberry's one innings to knock out Lancs this year, was devastating. It pains me to even try and recall it.  :cheesy
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Post by: Froome's Thoughts on November 22, 2013, 13:35
Good choice by the selectors.

Bit too early to say that....
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on November 22, 2013, 13:49
Bit too early to say that....
True, but in terms of originality and not potentially going with the more steady Compton, it is certainly more of a dynamic pick.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on November 23, 2013, 04:21
Wow, didn't realise that Carberry was 33! Where have England been keeping him? It almost looks like the Michael Vaughan mistake all over again, leaving him too long.
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Post by: 42x16ss on November 23, 2013, 04:24
Clarke looking really good! I kinda wish ACF94 was here to tell us all how bad a cricketer he is ;)
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Post by: just some guy on November 23, 2013, 06:54
woke up to England need 560 more runs to win  :-x
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Post by: froome19 on November 23, 2013, 19:25
Wow, didn't realise that Carberry was 33! Where have England been keeping him? It almost looks like the Michael Vaughan mistake all over again, leaving him too long.

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And Carberry young? I wouldn't say so..  Unless you call 33 young. ;) (edit: FT got there before me)
He has had a lot of injuries even one career threatening one just two years ago, bad counties and harsh luck to contend with, but he now has his chance after previously making a cameo and disappointing appearance in one test against Bangladesh.

I refer you back to this post. There is a lot more to say about him, but the good thing is he now has the chance to shine and I only hope he takes it. He got a duck today, but then who would want to be an English batsmen at the Gabba at this present moment? :P

England need to get their act together. I am confident that they will come back stronger, but they have been far outclassed by Australia in every department so far. Was watching Channel 9 for a bit a day ago, and they were mooning over Nathan Lyon bowling  better than Graeme Swann.. That is when you know that something is very, very wrong :fp
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on November 24, 2013, 07:56
5.45pm: Australia have wrapped up a crushing defeat, despite the rain, despite their shaky start on Thursday, despite a run of seven defeats in nine Tests. This has been a hugely impressive display and looks to have posted a significant marker for the series; England have been battered and bruised in body and mind, suffering the sixth-heaviest defeat, in terms of runs, in their history.

 :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s :s   :-x
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on November 25, 2013, 10:02
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/jonathan-trott-leaves-englands-ashes-tour-20131125-2y60v.html

Stress related illness, hope is ok

How much a whole for England ?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on December 01, 2013, 20:38
Trott was in poor form, so it won't be a massive blow. The way I see it, if England's batsmen hit form they will win the series, if they don't then England will lose. There is no middle ground here, whereas there could have been/was in the English series.

So Trott leaving then wouldn't make that much of a difference, especially because there wasn't much chance he would regain his form.

There is a headline on Cricinfo..:
England tour veering off course

And how right it seems, in the practice match just finished, only one batsmen made over 50, and that was Ballance.. enough said. Swann took 4 wickets, but promising reverse bowlers Finn and Rankin were entirely and utterly hopeless. The Aussies meanwhile have the luxury of deciding between Bailey who hasn't done much wrong and Faulkner who I am sure England would take in their team any day (at least I would take him any day in my squad over Ben Stokes). How circumstances change..
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on December 02, 2013, 00:44
Get Compton back ASAP!

And that Jimmy bloke who was going to replace KP in the other Ashes, why's he not on Tour?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on December 02, 2013, 03:27
What does everyone think of Aus only taking one specialist spinner to Adelaide? If Lyon doesn't turn it and the batsmen don't fire then England could have a field day, especially Cook and Pietersen with the short boundary. Johnson could be a ticking time bomb if he doesn't get his line and length sorted.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on December 02, 2013, 06:39
I think finally lyon is the guy

smith will get 2 or 3 with full tosses  :D

plus I think baily gets dropped for the left armer.

warner and clarke might roll the arm over.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on December 02, 2013, 22:01
Swann is the better spinner in Aussie conditions, English conditions whatever. Lyon may outperform him on the day, but over an Ashes series Swann will easily beat Lyon.

Smith ain't bad, Clarke turns the arm much less since becoming Captain and Warner can doddle but Aussies have to either go for one spinner or two.. there is no in between. But all their fast bowlers deserve a place in the team and that is their most dangerous department.. imo leave it as it is. Though if Bailey goes for Faulkner as seems likely and Watson is back bowling, that does leave the option of dropping a seamer, as you really don't need a 6 man pace attack however good they are. Imo they don't need the extra seamer in Faulkner, and if they think they can start weakening their batting, just because of one decent batting performance..
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on December 03, 2013, 12:03
Only one spinner at Adelaide? I can't remember it being anything but a road the last couple of year. One should be enough with Smith's pies in support. Or Clarke is he can bothered to break someone's arm legally. ;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on December 05, 2013, 07:09
Hopefully Smith should be enough support but I'm not sure that there's enough for the quicks. There was a little swing when the rain was about but since then, not too much. Clarke won't be rushing to bowl any time soon either - his backs just not up to it.

Bailey is starting to look good after getting a life early - just smacked Broad for six to bring up his 50 :D :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on December 05, 2013, 07:22
Hopefully Smith should be enough support but I'm not sure that there's enough for the quicks. There was a little swing when the rain was about but since then, not too much. Clarke won't be rushing to bowl any time soon either - his backs just not up to it.

Bailey is starting to look good after getting a life early - just smacked Broad for six to bring up his 50 :D :D

really talk about timing

G Bailey goooooooooone
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on December 05, 2013, 07:32
Don't remind me!!! Swann took a screamer of a catch though, that was heading to the boundary for sure. I think we need ACF94 to come back and tell us how crap Clarke is so that he can get another triple century, we'll need it on this pitch, Johnson is going to go for 6 an over...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on December 05, 2013, 18:25
Don't remind me!!! Swann took a screamer of a catch though, that was heading to the boundary for sure. I think we need ACF94 to come back and tell us how crap Clarke is so that he can get another triple century, we'll need it on this pitch, Johnson is going to go for 6 an over...
England's batting confidence is in tatters, their order is out of whack and batting lineup weakened.
Really you shouldn't be worrying 42.. at least have some sympathy for us English supporters.  :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on December 06, 2013, 00:36
England's batting confidence is in tatters, their order is out of whack and batting lineup weakened.
Really you shouldn't be worrying 42.. at least have some sympathy for us English supporters.  :D
I wouldn't get too downbeat, Cook and Bell look in decent touch. If either really gets going it can spark something and if it's going to happen, Adelaide is the place.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on December 07, 2013, 07:43
I wouldn't get too downbeat, Cook and Bell look in decent touch. If either really gets going it can spark something and if it's going to happen, Adelaide is the place.

all OZ supports hope you keep prediciting good things for England

 :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Zam on December 07, 2013, 08:55
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01mzh9k - Boycott
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on December 09, 2013, 03:25
all OZ supports hope you keep prediciting good things for England

 :D
Haha! I'm just hoping that we don't see a return to the days where most Ashes series were more or less decided by tea on the first day :D

I want to see Australia win, but I also want to see the English remind us what they are capable of. Bell, Carberry, Root, Broad, Pietersen and now Prior have all shown their quality at times but Cook is having a bad series both as captain and a batsman. WACA is do or die for England and Johnson is going to be rearing to go on what is expected to be a traditional, bouncy, lightning fast WACA pitch.

I hope Broad has good dental cover, because there will be lots of short stuff!!!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on December 09, 2013, 07:45
Half our 40 wickets to legside catches :angry :angry, Stop hooking :cool :cool
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 10:09

more for the pic than the comment
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on December 12, 2013, 08:57
So round 3

Clarke and Cook I think 100 tests

and fight back or ? End of an era?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: sublimit on December 12, 2013, 10:59
No complaints as we've been handed our asses big style.       Carberry can field but even he dropped a dolly.     Root is the gutsiest guy we have out there and not phazed by Johnson in the slightest and hopefully continues in the middle order and not opener.    But yes our bowling looks terrible and batting not much better.

With Cook hes either on or off - no middle ground and he's in one of his periods where he's totally useless.    Hopefully he can show something but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on December 16, 2013, 20:00
(http://images.smh.com.au/2013/12/17/5015127/df_alwide_waca-20131217051842920050-620x349.jpg)

The WACA Ground may never again host a Test match, with Cricket Australia and the International Cricket Council united in their belief the venue no longer meets international standards.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/waca-may-never-host-a-test-match-again-20131217-2zho9.html#ixzz2nfb2GO00
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on December 17, 2013, 05:27
Stokes just gone for 120, thats it all over.
Took a long time to find an Englishman to show any resistance but finally we found one.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on December 17, 2013, 06:32
No complaints as we've been handed our asses big style.       Carberry can field but even he dropped a dolly.     Root is the gutsiest guy we have out there and not phazed by Johnson in the slightest and hopefully continues in the middle order and not opener.    But yes our bowling looks terrible and batting not much better.

With Cook hes either on or off - no middle ground and he's in one of his periods where he's totally useless.    Hopefully he can show something but I doubt it.

In Cook's defence he has been targeted by Johnson and Harris and had to face some blistering spells of very good new ball bowling. Pietersen, Broad and Anderson have also had to face the music nearly every time they head out too. Since Lehmann took over and Clarke stepped down as a selector the leadership in the Aus camp has stepped up big time.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on December 17, 2013, 07:28
Stokes just gone for 120, thats it all over.
Took a long time to find an Englishman to show any resistance but finally we found one.

Ok, before some Aussie corrects me, Ben Stokes was a Kiwi before he was an Englishman :shh :shh
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2014, 07:36
just read S Marsh is again on the way to SA

WTF
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on February 09, 2014, 12:19
just read S Marsh is again on the way to SA

WTF
Seems like he recovered quicker from his injury than they expected and played a terrific innings to win the BBL. So when Watson gets injured they take the opportunity to call him up...They wouldn't have called him up if they had had a full squad.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2014, 12:20
Seems like he recovered quicker from his injury than they expected and played a terrific innings to win the BBL. So when Watson gets injured they take the opportunity to call him up...They wouldn't have called him up if they had had a full squad.

Yep but he is sh*t  ;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on February 09, 2014, 12:24
Yep but he is sh*t  ;)
Quite true.
Well the selectors will get the message the hard way I guess.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on February 10, 2014, 08:36
F#$king stupidity is what it is. May as well have called up Cameron White and be done with it.

What was wrong with trying Finch?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 09:56
"You can't make them," Holding said. "If it was simple as that you'd just send young bowlers into the gym and tell them to bowl fast. When countries do find someone with that ability to bowl fast they need to know how to deal with it, and that is why England have destroyed Steve Finn.

"They need to know how to deal with people who have the natural ability to bowl fast - not everyone can. You can't just say everyone is going to search ... I've heard that for donkey's years, and people tried to copy us. When you get someone like that you've got to cherish it, nurture it properly from youth and make sure you take full advantage of it."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-australia-2013-14/content/story/719777.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-australia-2013-14/content/story/719777.html)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on February 17, 2014, 10:15
On the topic of bowlers... one can just sit back and laugh at the Indian Bowlers. B. Mcullum is on the verge of a triple century if New Zealand chose to continue batting and India from having a good shot at winning are now thoroughly embarassed and for good reason, you just have to look at the IPL auction to see the emphasis the Indians put on batting over bowling and tbh I don't really feel any sympathy for their plight.

South Africa's bowlers were simply outbowled by Johnson, and this series has fast become very intriguing. SA's batting needs to step up as only De Villiers is in any real form, and the big loss is Amla who is out of nick. Australia's batting is strong, but even so they aren't invincible and can crumble under pressure from Steyn and co.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 17, 2014, 10:37
Erm, I do hope you've watched the match. Otherwise you could call Australia overrated after Laxman's 281. This is one of the best ever innings. The IPL logic is simply flawed- first, it's IPL & second, they're mostly sh*te.

South Africa need to get their thumbs out of their arse and select their best side.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on February 18, 2014, 02:23
This is more or less their best side, it's just Kallis who has retired. That leaves quite a big hole in the team, as he is arguably the best all rounder in the game since Sobers. I also rewatched THAT spell from Johnson, it was just devastating. Even batsmen the calibre of Richards, Ponting, Tendulkar, Lara and Kallis would have been reeling from those four overs.

I'd love to know what Dennis Lillee was doing with Johnson when he worked with him early last year, as he is a completely different crickter atm. He's always had pace and unpredictability but now there's some thought, confidence and consistency in his bowling. He's scaring the runs out of batsmen.

Post Merge: February 18, 2014, 02:28
On the topic of bowlers... one can just sit back and laugh at the Indian Bowlers. B. Mcullum is on the verge of a triple century if New Zealand chose to continue batting and India from having a good shot at winning are now thoroughly embarassed and for good reason, you just have to look at the IPL auction to see the emphasis the Indians put on batting over bowling and tbh I don't really feel any sympathy for their plight.

South Africa's bowlers were simply outbowled by Johnson, and this series has fast become very intriguing. SA's batting needs to step up as only De Villiers is in any real form, and the big loss is Amla who is out of nick. Australia's batting is strong, but even so they aren't invincible and can crumble under pressure from Steyn and co.
Brendan McCullum's batting in this match will be remembered as two of the best innings of this era. He has been absolutely tremendous, stepping up in Ross Taylor's absence and then some. NZ are winning this match far more than India are losing it.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 18, 2014, 02:54
This is more or less their best side, it's just Kallis who has retired. That leaves quite a big hole in the team, as he is arguably the best all rounder in the game since Sobers.
It's definitely not their best team though. McLaren's a joke selection, Duminy's a specialist fieldsman, and there's a reserve keeper who should be in. They had Australia on the mat and bowled Peterson and McLaren in that situation.

Abbott (HTF is he not in?), de Kock & Elgar and maybe Parnell deserve a call atm, far more than McLaren and Duminy anyway.

Post Merge: February 18, 2014, 03:03
I'd say that they're suffering from England's post Botham syndrome, where any sh*t player who could do two things equally sh*t got selected. McLaren can't win his place as a batsman or bowler. Abbott's high quality and in form, and has a test best of 7/12.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on February 18, 2014, 03:25
I'll be amazed if the SA team isn't shaken up a bit then after this loss. McLaren didn't impress me but it isn't his fault that Steyn and Morkel weren't bowling at their best. I agree that bringing on Peterson when they did let Aus off the hook but aren't Steyn and Morkel nursing injuries?

Smith, Amla, De Villiers and Du Plessis are all quality batsmen and more will be expected of them in the second test. Having said that, Johnson targeted Smith and Amla from the moment he was given the ball. Alistair Cook got off lightly compared to what Amla had to face!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 18, 2014, 03:54
With South Africa, there's always something more than cricket to their selections. We might not see Abbott unless McLaren's dropped and team's balance redressed.

Nothing to say about Johnson, he's been on another level since his comeback. Good to see some fast bowling. Steyn had the trots while Morkel's injury was late on. Not nearly like the Anderson clusterflip.

Amla's a weird one, been getting looser and looser since England and now completely out of touch(even against India, struggled very much against Shami) when facing the best bowling. Smith, he's the one I most expect from in crisis situations.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 18, 2014, 06:57
Yep but he is sh*t  ;)
Quite true.
Well the selectors will get the message the hard way I guess.
F#$king stupidity is what it is. May as well have called up Cameron White and be done with it.

What was wrong with trying Finch?
(http://fitnessandfrozengrapes.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/humble-pie.jpg)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 18, 2014, 07:03
Steyn took 6 wickets! crickey if that's sub par :D

Dunno if they need another wicketkeeper if ABDV is doing the job and batting well. Allow for 6/7 key batsmen
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on February 18, 2014, 07:09
(http://fitnessandfrozengrapes.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/humble-pie.jpg)

shhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 18, 2014, 09:18
Steyn took 6 wickets! crickey if that's sub par :D

Dunno if they need another wicketkeeper if ABDV is doing the job and batting well. Allow for 6/7 key batsmen
Yes, it was sub par. He can bowl far better.

Seen time and again statistically that keeping shaves 5-10 runs off a batsman's average. He's got a bad back and is the best batsman. He has to be specialist bat if there's an alternative.... Quinton de Kock. Not to mention, they have ballast in Duminy, anyway
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 18, 2014, 10:31
Do you have empireical evidence to back that up?

And I never said Steyn was at his best, just don't think his performance is in need of being questioned. If only all fast bowlers can have a bag day and take 6 wickets, lol.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 18, 2014, 10:40
http://howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/WicketKeeping/WicketKeepingVsNonKeeper.asp

Flower gave up keeping when Taibu came in, and he was well past it then. Denis Lindsay had the one exceptional series against Australia. All the larger samples point towards an upward curve as sole batsman, and ABdV's at his peak atm. Sanga's stark albeit a bit skewed given he wasn't at his peak when was keeping.

Well, I'm not questioning Steyn. He had the trots and took 4 wickets, that's a fair effort.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on February 19, 2014, 01:56
(http://fitnessandfrozengrapes.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/humble-pie.jpg)

Fair cop :D

Still not as bad as ACF94 ragging on Michael Clarke right before he averaged 70+ for a calendar year, including a triple century a few days later.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 20, 2014, 03:33
Fair cop :D

Still not as bad as ACF94 ragging on Michael Clarke right before he averaged 70+ for a calendar year, including a triple century a few days later.
Yes well, special cases...

Anywhores, seems Rammy gets de Kock he wanted
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 20, 2014, 13:57
Sethers playing for a draw on D1...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 21, 2014, 02:30
you've been watching too much 2020
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 21, 2014, 03:37
Crabbing along and then Duminy and Elgar get out so they're no better off (5 down) than they would be batting normally anyway.

Pitch looks crap to bowl on. If Aus can get into the tail quick enough then they can bat on it for the majority of the day.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 21, 2014, 03:52
2.5 an over is now unacceptable? It wasn't thrilling, but a tough engrossing day of cricket. Easily the best day of the series, so far ahead of the second that it's the equivalent of a race between Frankel and Mark Richardson.

At 5/200 and a competent tail, there is no guarantee that Australia will be batting quickly. Also, it's not an untypical PE pitch. So it's a bit slow... not impossible to bowl on at all.

ETA- will see after both teams have had a bat on it.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 21, 2014, 13:19
Of course you wait till both teams bat to judge properly but the pitch is dead and the Saffers aren't taking full advantage of it.

5 sessions for 400-odd? It basically means Australia will bat day 3for the first time and the only win will be from SA if they can take 20 wickets...something that doesn't look like happening on this pitch unless the Aussies throw them away.

They're not batting to force a result.

Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 21, 2014, 14:41
...and there's that collapse. With Warner still in. :fp
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 21, 2014, 17:30
5 sessions for 400-odd? It basically means Australia will bat day 3for the first time and the only win will be from SA if they can take 20 wickets...something that doesn't look like happening on this pitch unless the Aussies throw them away.

They're not batting to force a result.
They could've gone at 3.5 an over and possibly be bowled out for 250 and try to force a result. But somehow, it seems better to get 400+ and 2.8 an over.

The only way for any team to win is to take 20 wickets. This Australian batting is still a house of cards and 20 wickets in 3 days is hardly something that cannot be envisaged.

Also, Clarke captaincy was sh*t today. 3 midwickets, funky for the sake of funkiness.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: just some guy on February 23, 2014, 14:06
(http://fitnessandfrozengrapes.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/humble-pie.jpg)

You were saying  :-x   :lol
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 23, 2014, 16:33
Sethers playing for a draw on D1...
if only they'd batted for a win
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 23, 2014, 18:18
Rammie, you're back! :hug Aren't you just LOVING the cricket  :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 23, 2014, 18:20
I'll try not to rub it in  :D  We *DID* get :spank by the Aussies in the 1st test though, so I allow myself some :fanfare
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 23, 2014, 22:47
You were saying  :-x   :lol
Has the First Test result been reversed?  :o

I'll try not to rub it in  :D  We *DID* get :spank by the Aussies in the 1st test though, so I allow myself some :fanfare
We're not worried, you'll be back hiding in the woodwork by the end of the 3rd Test.

if only they'd batted for a win
It helps when the opposition throw away all there wickets and can't even be fliped batting for 80 overs. If Warner and Rogers can accumulate in the 4th innings, then they utterly threw away any chance they had in their first innings.

Day 3 was not a normal test day, but if you think it is, ok then...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 24, 2014, 02:02
They walloped you in four days.... the only thing close about this match was the Monday's weather. For Australia, batting 80 overs isn't a given. It's only that England were that sh*te in the winter. Give the credit where it's due, South Africa were better by a distance in all aspects.

I don't particularly like South Africa, in fact, they're twits. Especially after their antics last month.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 24, 2014, 07:10
  :P  :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 24, 2014, 07:11
Hi Tuart, how old are you? I take it you do have a sense of humour hey  :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 24, 2014, 07:51
He does, prety sure he's not had his knickers in a twist for this...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 24, 2014, 08:06
Cool :karen
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 25, 2014, 12:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmnL4x2jwm8
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 25, 2014, 12:25
They walloped you in four days.... the only thing close about this match was the Monday's weather. For Australia, batting 80 overs isn't a given. It's only that England were that sh*te in the winter. Give the credit where it's due, South Africa were better by a distance in all aspects.

I don't particularly like South Africa, in fact, they're twits. Especially after their antics last month.

Not including 4th innings under 80over unless bowled out:

Nottigham 64.5 110.5
Lords 53.3 90.3
Manchester 146.0
Chester 89.3 68.3
Oval 128.5
Brisbane 97.1 94.0
Adelaide 158.0
Perth 103.3 87.0
Melbourne 82.2
Sydney 76.0 61.3
Centurion 122.0
Port Elizabeth 57.0 73.4

PE clearly, not the norm.

10 wickets in 2 sessions and then 9 wickets in 1...yeah that's a regular occurance at the moment.

And I said Steyn wasn't sh*t after Centurion ;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 25, 2014, 16:32
Cast your mind back to Chester le Street. This second innings was almost a carbon copy of that second innings then... Even your stats show that there are far too many innings below 80 overs there to just say that Australia batting 80 overs is a given (should be even more stark with the India tour there).

As for Steyn, never said that, and only a person who's never seen him bowl will say he's sh*t. He's the best of this generation. Yet he was no doubt under par in the first test. Warne and Amby had sh*t matches too....
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 26, 2014, 14:53
10/12 tests had at least an innings 80+ overs.

I don't really care for 'given' but I'd certainly say it was the norm and you'd expect they'd last to the new ball. And the PE first inning was the shortest in 10 tests...again that indicates that's hardly the norm or something to expect regularly.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 26, 2014, 17:22
10/12 tests had at least an innings 80+ overs.
That is hardly something to boast about. No, really. Batting 80 overs isn't a matter of prestige, it's bare bones that has to be done every innings.

Anyway, that's the last I will say on this. Quite enough cricket going around to brood over another Australian/English/Indian collapse.
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Post by: kabloemski on February 26, 2014, 19:55
Well, as expected Sat & Sunday are sold out, but I quite like Day 3 a lot anyway, and there's a good chance I might head to Newlands on Monday *WOOHOO*
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on February 27, 2014, 00:27
That is hardly something to boast about. No, really. Batting 80 overs isn't a matter of prestige, it's bare bones that has to be done every innings.

Anyway, that's the last I will say on this. Quite enough cricket going around to brood over another Australian/English/Indian collapse.
I never said it was a matter of prestige. Just that an inning "collapse" is not something to be expected from this team at the moment...then I used those stats to back up that statement. Don't run away down another trail now.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on February 27, 2014, 05:44
*Sigh* I give up.

if that's the way you interpret the stark stats above, then fine.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 27, 2014, 07:13
*Sigh* I give up.

if that's the way you interpret the stark stats above, then fine.

 :o

Okay, WTH are you and WHAT did you do with Ram??? :P
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 28, 2014, 19:55
Well, I hardly managed any sleep the nights before the other 2 tests started, but at least today I suffered from a massive hangover so tonight should be easier :D Can't wait for it!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on February 28, 2014, 21:43
Ended up watching Windies v Eng ODI as a little foreplay for tomorrow :) Windies won...
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Post by: kabloemski on March 01, 2014, 12:49
HOLY SH*T :o THIS IS SOME CRICKET #SAvAus
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Post by: kabloemski on March 01, 2014, 21:06
WTH! Where are the cricket folk??? I ended up joining PakPassion today, man :(
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Post by: froome19 on March 01, 2014, 21:59
A bit late to the party kabs... :D
But agreed, epic match it seems like, even if I was away and didn't get to watch it all.
If there was any doubt these two teams are the world's two best it has been washed away after this series!

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Post by: Froome's Thoughts on March 01, 2014, 22:05
SA and Australia are taking modern cricket to a new level. They've brought back pace bowling - the real beauty of test cricket and it is absolutely enthralling. Warner is really turning into a great. And Clarke decides to remind everyone he is still the heart of this new Aussie team. Just brilliant!
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Post by: kabloemski on March 01, 2014, 22:19
If there was any doubt these two teams are the world's two best it has been washed away after this series!

 ;) I *loved* it - I suspected I was going to see good cricket but *WOW* what good stuff - you don't see this calibre every day, mama mia!
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Post by: kabloemski on March 01, 2014, 22:22
SA and Australia are taking modern cricket to a new level. They've brought back pace bowling - the real beauty of test cricket and it is absolutely enthralling. Warner is really turning into a great. And Clarke decides to remind everyone he is still the heart of this new Aussie team. Just brilliant!

Yes, yes, and yes! As much as I love to win, I don't want a whitewash - I prefer a well matched game of equals. I love Warner's batting, and well impressed with everything re Clarke...

How f*cking hard core were Steyn & Morkel today :o and Clarke handled it like a frikking champ, I was well impressed - awesome awesome cricket!
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Post by: kabloemski on March 01, 2014, 22:24
PS Saw a cricket article somewhere that said it has always been the team with the strongest bowling attack - not batsmen - that dominates (referred to Windies, Aussies, etc) so....
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Post by: Tuart on March 02, 2014, 04:02
Oh dear, joining PakPassion :D

Morkel's spell again Clarke was terrific. I'm not really sold on Warner's T20 style but it's getting him runs so *shrug*.

Also Newlands would have to be the sexiest venue in cricket anywhere.
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Post by: Ram on March 02, 2014, 04:07
Repeated so often that it's a cliche. The dominant sides have always had the best batting and bowling. Otherwise there would've been stages where Pakistan could've been the best side (Sarfraz, Imran, Qadir and Wasim, Waqar, Saqi).
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Post by: kabloemski on March 02, 2014, 07:49
He he we'll see how I fare over there, I reckon there will be loads Misbah haters, so things could get heated :angry :D

Yeah, Newlands is frikking AWESOME
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Post by: kabloemski on March 02, 2014, 07:50
Oh okay, cool, Ram 'cos I was wondering about that, good to know. I guess stats don't lie, and I guess this sort of thing is always available on Cricinfo eh?
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Post by: kabloemski on March 02, 2014, 08:30
Looks like Steyn's still injured...
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 02, 2014, 12:20
Just as I felt torn due to falling wickets, the rain starts falling at Newlands, and my decision to go exercise just became very very easy :D Jeepers, now what?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 02, 2014, 16:48
Enjoyed the Aussie batting so much :) And the last 12 balls of Pak v India :D And now The WI v Eng ODI :lol

Not sure about Newlands tomorrow though, the rain might not let up
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Post by: Tuart on March 03, 2014, 00:39
Bah. Would have seen a declaration at 500-550 I reckon.

Did Australia win the last series? Can't remember who wins it if the series is tied.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 03, 2014, 01:03
Yeah, not sure what happens either in such a case, I hate draws due to weather :angry
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on March 03, 2014, 03:47
This isn't a trophy, it's a series.

Did Australia win the last series? No, they got beaten at Perth.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on March 03, 2014, 05:55
SA and Australia are taking modern cricket to a new level. They've brought back pace bowling - the real beauty of test cricket and it is absolutely enthralling. Warner is really turning into a great. And Clarke decides to remind everyone he is still the heart of this new Aussie team. Just brilliant!

Clarke has shown more mettle and steel than just about anyone I've ever seen this innings. Morkel raked him over the coals, hitting Clarke with everything he had in an incredible spell and he stood strong. If I ever see or hear an Aus cricket "fan" ever complain about his temperament or dedication ever again they are getting a swift kick to the groin. This has been an innings to remember.

If Morkel was bowling to anyone else he'd have taken 5 or 6 for not much. This is some contest!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on March 03, 2014, 08:17
This isn't a trophy, it's a series.

Did Australia win the last series? No, they got beaten at Perth.
Ah right. Was probably thinking of their last series in South Africa. So the Saffers will play for a draw then :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: kabloemski on March 03, 2014, 21:19
All due respect to Clarke, I am SO impressed with this guy, it's not even funny. Having said that, it ain't over 'til it's over, and if ANYBODY can mount a successful comeback against all odds, it's the Proteas - let's hope for some flipping miracle, and perhaps some of the greatest cricket we have ever seen...

Oh, and PS:

'@FirdoseM
At 10.22pm, CSA released a statement confirming this Test match will be Graeme Smith's last. #savaus #cricket'

Sorry to post Ms Moonda after her last high profile blunder, but hers was the 1st tweet I saw, let's call it a crime of convencience shall we :P
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on March 04, 2014, 02:59
Clutch player. Doubt there are many top batsmen who were worse on the off side than him. Thought he had more, but 11 years as captain must've taken its toll.

All due respect to Clarke, I am SO impressed with this guy, it's not even funny. Having said that, it ain't over 'til it's over, and if ANYBODY can mount a successful comeback against all odds, it's the Proteas - let's hope for some flipping miracle, and perhaps some of the greatest cricket we have ever seen...
Tbh, South Africa aren't winning from here.
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Post by: 42x16ss on March 04, 2014, 05:48
Disappointing that Smith is ending his career with a whimper rather than a bang. Unfortunately the last year or two he's been a shadow of his former self. Johnson and Harris seem to be exposing some flaws that weren't there a few years back. He's been a very good captain and excellent opening bat for SA.

Who would be first in line to replace him as captain? De Villiers?
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Post by: kabloemski on March 04, 2014, 06:45
Tbh, South Africa aren't winning from here.

*Sobs into pillow*
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Post by: kabloemski on March 04, 2014, 06:45
Who would be first in line to replace him as captain? De Villiers?

Seems the logical choice
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Post by: kabloemski on March 04, 2014, 06:47
Thought he had more, but 11 years as captain must've taken its toll.

Yeah, and I guess starting at such a young age?
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Post by: just some guy on March 04, 2014, 07:27
I assume AB takes over and stops keeping ?
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Post by: kabloemski on March 04, 2014, 07:36
De Kock to keeper?
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Tuart on March 04, 2014, 07:54
Didn't Swann announce his retirement mid-game too?

Don't understand that. Pre-match or Post-match, not on Day 3 of a deciding series when you still have to go out to bat
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Post by: kabloemski on March 04, 2014, 08:00
Yes, it is a bit dodge hey? And also, it was late-ish last night, I think 22.30 pm our side
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Post by: Tuart on March 04, 2014, 13:47
Yeah, gotta be honest when reading it this morning I thought you were joking when you posted that tweet. :D
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Post by: Tuart on March 06, 2014, 09:01
So, anyone seen Kabloey lately? :D
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Post by: kabloemski on March 06, 2014, 09:11
So, anyone seen Kabloey lately? :D

Yo yo yo :nuts :D I was talking Sailing & Economics 101 with my mentor
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Post by: kabloemski on March 06, 2014, 09:11
Congratulations, Awstrayleeah :P
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on March 06, 2014, 11:06
Good match, definitely not great. One side bossed it, deserved it, nice battle by SA in the second innings.

If you thought Smith's retirement timing was weird, just check Chappell, Lillee and Marsh's.
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Post by: Tuart on March 06, 2014, 14:08
I think if you retire (announce it) mid-game then your mind isn't really in it to begin with (that game).

Probably always wanted to end it at Newlands and couldn't see himself last til the next test there.
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Post by: Ram on March 06, 2014, 14:46
Check the example. It was against Pakistan in 84.

His mind wasn't completely on the game, otherwise he wouldn't have retired at all. Family played a role. Maybe the timing was a final motivational tool, maybe sick of press conferences with some sections of the media (and public) that never embraced him as much as some of his predecessors, maybe he wasn't in it. We'll have to wait for him to explain.
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Post by: kabloemski on March 06, 2014, 19:49
South African sport fans can be real c*nts, very hard on sports figures, I feel for Smith


*Awwwwww* http://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/AustraliaTourSA/Twitter-world-rises-to-Biff-20140304
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Post by: froome19 on March 06, 2014, 19:56
Bit of a blow for England as the Rootster had been in terrific nick. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/26475074

Unclear on his status for the World T20, he isn't the world's best T20 player, but if he plays the way he has been so far in this series then it will be a blow to England's chances.

In other news, Parry surely is over rated. Only plays for Lancs in limited overs and is pretty good, but nothing which made me stand out and say this lad is international quality. Still he deserves his chance and he started off pretty well, he will have more than a good chance to show his capabilities in Bangladesh/Windies.
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Post by: froome19 on March 27, 2014, 17:20
Absolutely brilliant goings on over in Bangladesh.
Sri Lanka batted well, some of old timers went well.. but then carnage ensued in the form of Alex Hales.

With his place under thread, he stepped up to the plate and absolutely demolished the Sri Lankan attack, becoming the first T20 centurion for England, not to mention only the 11th International centurion ever. His strikes were effortless, but also combined that with lovely timing. He promises so much but his consistency needs to be improved vastly. It is that consistency which is why he has struggled so 'consistently' in the longer formats of the game.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on March 30, 2014, 09:48
England's management must be the only people in the world who rate Jade Dernbach as worthy of playing cricket.

Worst economy rate in 2020s for a bowler with 300 deliveries
Worst economy rate in ODIs for a bowler with 1000 deliveries

well played that man. Blagged a career, much like his coach to be.


Quote from: Nass
It's the right call to bring on Bresnan [for the final over of the innings] in so much as that it's not Dernbach.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Eric on May 12, 2014, 04:18
The IPL is killing my existence.

I'm looking forward to the Australian 'world number 1!' train being comprehensively derailed by Saeed Ajmal and friends in October. Then built up again when India tour in the summer. Sadly all it takes to be rated in the modern era of test cricket is to sweep aside incompetent opposition at home and show up once in a while away from home. South Africa of course were an exception, but they're not going to be anywhere near as effective with their two most experienced players gone.

Take England, who have the simple task of seven home tests against Sri Lanka and India respectively. If they don't win at least four of those then they may as well give up, resigned to a 1990s style decline to mediocrity. If you can't win comfortably at home, especially against teams that traditionally struggle away from home, then you're in trouble.
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Post by: froome19 on May 12, 2014, 16:46
Lol, lets just say rather than having a revision timetable for my exams, I have taken to producing an IPL watching timetable. Epic tournament...

Currently the Top 3 seem like they will remain so, however the race fourth looks to be heading for a really tight finish.
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Post by: Eric on May 12, 2014, 16:48
Fair play if you like it, but for me, it's irritating to see international cricket halted for two months or however long. That it's a domestic competition makes it worse, if there was some kind of cricket-wide off season like there is in cycling I wouldn't find it as hard to stomach. The idea of domestic cricket taking precedence over internationals is what I find so alien and so unacceptable.
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Post by: Eric on May 13, 2014, 02:43
It's also hard to get into the IPL. I might be half-Indian but I feel no connection to any of the franchises. I also can't get behind the Sydney Whoevers (Sixers, is it?) in the BBL. I do have a few domestic teams that I like, but they're proper cricket clubs/associations rather than franchises, such as Surrey in the County Championship and New South Wales in the Sheffield Shield. T20 franchises seem to me to be largely commercial entities rather than cricket clubs, I want to be a fan, not a 'customer'.
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Post by: Eric on May 25, 2014, 17:32
Oh dear England. Rolled for 99 and not a Mitchell in sight :D
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on July 30, 2014, 10:35
Much better by England.
They backed up a super strong batting performance with a solid performance with the ball. Anderson was at his best, Broad bowled well, Woakes was impressive, though Jordan was poor and inconsistent.

This should be their test match to lose but a lot will depend on whether India manage to escape a follow on. If they do then they would fancy drawing this game.
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Post by: Eric on August 17, 2014, 15:22
2014 India are even worse than 2011 India. It's going to be some lions against Christians stuff later this year, when Johnson and friends have a crack at the batsmen.

Everything in Indian cricket is rotten at the moment, with the puzzling exception of MS Dhoni.
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Post by: Archieboy on January 07, 2015, 20:35
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/30711150

Nice, very nice :cool :cool
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Post by: 42x16ss on January 09, 2015, 01:24
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/30711150

Nice, very nice :cool :cool

Michael Carberry also had an excellent innings for Perth last night, smashing 77 off 37 after a slow start. Some incredible hitting  :o
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: 42x16ss on January 09, 2015, 01:28
2014 India are even worse than 2011 India. It's going to be some lions against Christians stuff later this year, when Johnson and friends have a crack at the batsmen.

Everything in Indian cricket is rotten at the moment, with the puzzling exception of MS Dhoni.

India have held their own with the bat so far, Kohli has been exceptional but plenty of others have chipped in even if the tail has been very weak.

The big issue with India atm is taking 20 wickets. Sharma has been too erratic at times and nobody else really looks dangerous. It's a pity because they've shown some flaws in the Aussies at times. Also, the fielding has been horrendous overall, especially India's catching.
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Post by: DJW on January 09, 2015, 12:32
Michael Carberry also had an excellent innings for Perth last night, smashing 77 off 37 after a slow start. Some incredible hitting  :o

Caught the highlights, absolutely cracking innings. Unfortunately he's replicating some of his old English T20 form which he's never really shown, or had much chance to show, on the international stage.
Having said that, the bowling was pretty ordinary at times, particularly from Flintoff.
Love the journey that Carberry has made from defensive First Class opener to destructive T20 smasher.

English players lighting up the BB at the moment  :cool
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Post by: froome19 on January 12, 2015, 14:44
Yes, funnily enough it is the BBL which appears to be convincing the English Media that they need a Franchise based T20 tournament, due to the English players performances. Whether a Franchise tournament would benefit performance and counties is irrelevant. The financial benefits and popularity to me outweighs anything else.

Carberry has always been pretty destructive. He played a devastating innings to beat Lancs a while back.

I do find it interesting that Australia are playing a series at the same time as the BBL. That would never happen with India & the IPL, so the BBL hasn't made it just yet but it is well on its well.

The Indians overseas just can't bowl. As Dravid correctly says their batting has potential and ability, but their fast bowling in particular is simply not good enough for a side aiming to be amongst the best in test cricket. Their batting does show promise, despite the many holes which exist. Rahul played a good century, Vijay looks good, Sharma is good if inconsistent and if Kohli can find consistency he can become a great.

And to the world cup..

England appear to be picking Bell over Hales, which is understandable as if Hales isn't in form then his place simply isn't justified and his batting in the BBL suggests he isn't in form. My big worry is over Morgan he simply appears in woeful form and his place must surely come under scrutiny, which won't help the side seeing as he has just been made captain. The bowlers aren't faring too bad. One of Woakes, Finn and Jordan will join Anderson and Broad, and at the moment I feel it might just be Woakes due to his reliability and his batting. Jordan's poor bowling yesterday certainly didn't help his cause and he will need a masterful performance against the PMXI to salvage his place.

The Windies batting is very strong, if weakened by their ridiculous insistence to leave out Bravo and Pollard. Yet their destructive capacity may also leave them prone to batting collapses and I really don't fancy their bowling attack. The South Africans also have a very well balanced batting attack led by De Villiers who is absolutely unbelievable. If they can get players like Miller and Du Plessis into form they will be very hard to beat. Similar to Australia who will want their big game players such as Finch and Maxwell to fire, though their bowling attack looks very solid as well, though Johnson I have a feeling will sorely disappoint.
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Post by: DJW on January 22, 2015, 21:27
I'm so so glad that Finn has come back into some form, always rated that guy.

I think we've actually got half a decent chance, as long as Jordan isn't playing. We've got good fast bowlers who are used to Australian conditions and some proper batsmen who have the potential to be destructive. As ever with England, reaching that potential is probably going to be the struggle.

Can't see the Windies doing too well here, or India, because of their bowling attacks. I actually think New Zealand have got a really good chance, they always do quite well and McCullum just looks unstoppable.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on January 28, 2015, 18:39
The Windies batting has the potential to launch an all out assault and destroy bowling attacks, but it is unlikely and they have some weak links as well. However, after the group stages a team is only 3 wins away from the trophy and so who knows?

Without Narine now..they'll be up against it just to make it out of their group though.

England are looking slightly better at the moment, however I don't see them coming close to a fully fit and raring to go first choice Australian Eleven.

In other news, Yorkshire made two big money signings today. Finch & Maxwell are inconsistent but when they come good, they are very good.
The BBL4 was also a huge success and a dramatic, nail biting finale was the perfect way to cap it all off.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: DJW on January 28, 2015, 19:35
There's been some phenomenal finishes in the BBL this year - IMO it's looked miles better than the IPL for drama.

Great news for Yorkshire, even if they are only there for when all the young Yorkshire lads head off to play for England  :cool
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Post by: AG on January 29, 2015, 01:03
I dont usually watch cricket - but last nights game was a great advertisement for the game.

It was very entertaining indeed
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: LaVelocipede on February 15, 2015, 21:14
Come on Ireland!
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Post by: Archieboy on February 16, 2015, 05:46
A very nice win fir Ireland, well done  :cool
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Post by: froome19 on April 18, 2015, 22:19
:bump

England   :p
Really unimpressed...
The openers look awful, lacking any semblance of confidence.
This should be a stroll, take a look at the averages of the WI batsmen, a ranking of 8th in the world..
If we can't successfully take apart WI, we have no chance against NZ, Aus and SA..

Anyways over in India, it is IPL time :cheer
Some terrific cricket, bowling, batting, uncovering stars.
Kings XI struggling, their batting isn't coming off, whilst Delhi seem to be piecing themselves together thanks to their threesome of super spinners. Watch out for Shreyas Iyer, he has got quality. Still I think Yuvraj needs to be playing proper match winnings innings to be justifying his price tag. Rajahstahn has been terrific, a very balanced team. CSK looking their usual selves with that fearsome opening duo and firepower below. Nehra has been fantastic as well. Hyderebad need to sort themselves out, dropping Williamson after one innings at 3 :fp

Morgan isn't in great form, though nice to see at least one Englishmen, Ravi, playing decently. Though the Indians seem to think he is one of their own..Dropping Steyn, then dropping Boult... Can't imagine who decided Dave Warner should be captain. Mumbai are a train wreck, their Indian batsmen are way below par atm, bar Rohit who is keeping them afloat. Their spinners aren't what they used to be, Maligna isn't either. They need to change round their overseas players and refresh their bowling attack asap..
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Post by: LaVelocipede on May 07, 2015, 19:19
If we lose to this shower...said the Irishman.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on May 07, 2015, 21:54
Good innings by your countryman today LaVelo. Morgan finally came into his own.

Will be exciting to see the Ireland game, when I originally heard of it I wasn't impressed. Whats the point of calling them England when it is not England? But the more I think about it the more excited I am to see a new look England team, playing against a tough to beat Irish team..
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: LaVelocipede on May 08, 2015, 16:02
Embarrassed ourselves a bit there, glad it was rained off!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on October 25, 2016, 10:45
England better get Hameed opening for the second test in Bangladesh. No point in not playing him before we go to India and get A 5/0 thrashing.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on November 09, 2016, 07:42
So the 19 yr old Hameed has made his test debut in India. Not a bad start looks very useful.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on July 15, 2017, 15:51
Rabada must be gutted to be missing the 2nd test for the Saffers. Plenty of wickets to be taken.

England getting well rolled over
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Post by: Archieboy on September 15, 2017, 20:32
Essex win the County Championship  :cool :cool :cool :s :s ;)
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on December 05, 2017, 13:16
Very good days work by England in the 2nd Ashes test.
Would love to see us hang in there tomorrow and knock that smug smile of Smiths highly slapable face.
Should of enforced the follow on  :lol
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on March 25, 2018, 20:37
Very good days work by England in the 2nd Ashes test.
Would love to see us hang in there tomorrow and knock that smug smile of Smiths highly slapable face.
Should of enforced the follow on  :lol

Well Smith has well and truly had that smug smile knocked of his face now. Ball tampering and all he gets is a one match ban, that stinks.
Someone better investigate the last Ashes series because the Aussies were very good at swinging the ball when we couldn't, guess we may know why now.
Time will tell.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: AG on March 26, 2018, 00:18
smith needs to go just for sheer studpidity.

Actually the overall feeling here in Aus is one of real outrage and disbelief.  The ICC were always going to treat it with a wet lettuce leaf,  but Cricket Australia will have to do something - if only to appease the Australian fans.  The Australian Captain hatched a premeditated plan to cheat ... there is no other way to look at it.

I think Smith and Warner will lose their captaincy, and there is a good chance Lehman will go as well.  They will give the job to Justin Langer.

Not just this incident but the overwhelming feeling is one of a 'boys club' and disrespect ... the sledging stuff, the general laddish behaviour, Warner in general ... its not a good look for cricket.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: AG on March 26, 2018, 00:21
Smith was only ever going to get 1 match - Faf Du Plessis only got 1 match and so have a few others in the past ...

I am surprised that Bancroft didnt get the full 4 points


Ball tampering is just not seen in that way by the ICC.  I dont know why not ... but its not.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Servais Knavendish on March 26, 2018, 00:51
Really touched by Jim maxwell and pm’s statement - I have greatest admiration for smith but this is awful - CA will issue really significant ban surely - a year ?
 


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Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on March 26, 2018, 05:10
Going to stick my boot into the general Australian reaction and outrage, a bit. Find it a massive overreaction. Turnbull has a Barnaby Joyce sized fire that he has to put out before commenting on this, for example.

As for Smith, from what we saw with the DRS referral referral, he's proved that he's prone to cheating. When Kohli pointed it out, Kohli was panned by the media as a sook, not Smith for evidently cheating the system. Admittedly, I still think Kohli is an arse. This isn't out of the norm for Smith.

As for ball tampering itself, I'm going to say with how important reverse swing is, it's likely to be epidemic till someone gets caught. And I don't buy for a second that this is the first time. In fact, Sri Lanka's manager had accused Siddle of ball tampering a while ago.

As for the high horse about not tolerating such nonsense is in itself, I find, a big load of nonsense. Warne, Waugh and JtB's pitch information, and their subsequent pee weak "admission/suspension" was one of the most suspect things in the 90s, which were generally horribly questionable.

But I have no iota of pity for this team, the absolute rubbish that they've spewed about the "line" and its crossing means that they deserve every bit that they get. Lehmann campaigned for broad to be sent home crying. Lyon promised to "end careers", Clarke and broken arm... The line isn't where the Australian cricket team sets it.

Most importantly, these whiny cry babies have taken the attention of the cricket world away from the travesty of the 2019 world cup format and the repercussions it is likely to have on a multitude of associate and less established nations.

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Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: M Gee on March 26, 2018, 11:02
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The whole read was enjoyable - got a few chuckles. But I especially like that ending bit. Gonna use that myself sometime. Thanks!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: froome19 on March 26, 2018, 17:42
Yep, the sheer outrage I find rather frustrating, this thing surely happens rather frequently, we've been hearing tidbits of ball tampering accusations for years now; Pakistan, Du Plessis, Anderson etc. To think that primarily they caught Bancroft due to the cameras and think about all the domestic games which do not pose the threat of cameras.. Of course its wrong and should be dealt with accordingly, but open your eyes..

The Aussie public are going to take it hard and to some degree deservedly so as the perception (or at least from what I have gathered) of the Aussie team as a morally superior team has always been a clearly skewed one.  Though personally, I hope Smith and Warner come out of this more or less intact as they are two terrific players.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: AG on March 27, 2018, 01:44
this is a fairly reasonable article

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22916100/why-australia-outraged-steven-smith-team (http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22916100/why-australia-outraged-steven-smith-team)

The Australian Cricket team has been pushing the boundaries of what is considered acceptable for a long time now.  The level of sledging and general bad behaviour has gone to extreme levels - and the fact that they ask for the field mikes to be muted between balls this Tour showed pretty clearly that the onslaught was premeditated and acceptable by the coach/leaders etc - which wasnt taken well.   

And then had the audacity to complain that de Kok said something about Warners wife.  The hypocrisy of them is just mind blowing.


But what is essentially a team-wide, coach led intentional practice - even if its ball tampering which is done by everyone and considered not that big a deal by all - isnt good.  It isnt acceptable to Australians who dont necessarily watch cricket and understand ...

They see it as a team who condones - indeed plans - cheating.  That it is very obviously not the first time, and the sheer stupidity and arrogance of expecting to admit it was a team led thing, but dont worry - we will learn from it.  :fp   

Australians are embarrassed .. and that isnt going to go away.


Lehman was planning on stepping down after the next world cup anyway - so will likely resign.  In fact I wouldnt be surprised if he announces it today.

Smith has already been replaced as captain if his IPL team - a team who is just coming back from 2 years of suspension for match fixing!!!   

Smith and Warner will be stripped of captaincy for certain - and possibly face bans from cricket. Smith especially will lose millions in sponsorship (Warner not so much because no one likes him anyway :D )



to anyone with any idea about cricket its a massive over reaction - but to the general public its almost not enough.   He will be forgiven eventually  (I mean, we forgave Warne who had dealings with a bookie AND took PED's) ... but it will take time.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: AG on March 27, 2018, 02:06
read this in one of the comments

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Credit where credit is due, has any nation in the history of world cricket ever trolled Australia quite as effectively as the South Africa have this past month? They've flogged us to pieces on the scoreboard, sledged us to the point of incoherent rage on and off the field, and somehow managed to get the captain to completely trash his and the coaches reputation beyond the point of no return.

With carefully directed effort and some judicious application to mental pressure points delivered under cover of those idiotic sounding accents, they have somehow presided over the total obliteration of Australian cricket.

Well played saffers, well played.

 :lol 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on March 27, 2018, 07:25
Hoisted on their own petard.

THen again, finding it difficult to muster any emotion today for multi paragraph crapulence. Overnight, I've learnt that a sailor in the Volvo Ocean Race from Scallywag fell overboard in the Southern Ocean and things are looking quite grim with the nearest possible help being 400 miles away. Just hope that there's a miracle in the seas. What a leveller.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Servais Knavendish on March 27, 2018, 08:59
I cannot believe that the beeb employ the services of serial rent a quote Michael Vaughan; as soon as I heard his voice on the radio last night I knew that he would claim the ashes were tainted by similar antics.  How typically Vaughan to try to undermine the 4-0 mauling with some unsubstantiated drivel about Australia's mystery mastery of reverse swing during the series.  He really is completely beyond belief, as he is a serial offender in these 'wise after the event' sound bite salvo's and enough really is enough.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: AG on March 27, 2018, 12:53
Hoisted on their own petard.

THen again, finding it difficult to muster any emotion today for multi paragraph crapulence. Overnight, I've learnt that a sailor in the Volvo Ocean Race from Scallywag fell overboard in the Southern Ocean and things are looking quite grim with the nearest possible help being 400 miles away. Just hope that there's a miracle in the seas. What a leveller.

sadly - no miracle  :( 
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Ram on March 27, 2018, 14:16
Yeah, been following it. Horrible news. And there was a warning shot when they had a man overboard (Alex Gough) in the leg to Hong Kong as well. Turn around time of 7 minutes to save the man overboard then; unfortunately, the Southern Ocean....

Absolutely gutting. To think that they had a turn around and a half since drafting in Libby Greenhalgh
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on April 12, 2018, 20:03
Essex win the County Championship  :cool :cool :cool :s :s ;)

And the 2018 Championship begins tomorrow,  first game Yorkshire away, weather wants to warm up and brighten up it's bloody cold still.
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Archieboy on August 25, 2019, 17:55
What an innings that was from Ben Stokes, not seen anything like that since Botham in 1981.
Take that Aussies.
Wheres my mate Ram, he will have enjoyed that
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: Servais Knavendish on August 25, 2019, 21:19
Incredible match in a stunning summer of cricket - from down and out to all to play for

Yes stokes nailed on for SPOTY now!
Title: Re: Cricket- RIP CMJ, Greigy and Neil Adcock
Post by: AG on August 26, 2019, 09:27
amazing game indeed