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Title: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 28, 2012, 09:18
track related news
Title: Re: General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 28, 2012, 09:19
South Australia broke the national all-comers' record for the 4000-metre men's team pursuit with a world-class time of three minutes 56.834 seconds at the Adelaide Superdrome.

(http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/resize/file/8693_bobridge-640-gunter.jpg/id/26191/w/640/h/360)

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/south-australian-cyclists-break-records-20120128-1qm7u.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/south-australian-cyclists-break-records-20120128-1qm7u.html)
Title: Re: General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 28, 2012, 09:28
WA women target record in pursuit

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8410240 (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8410240)

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Melissa Hoskins, Sarah Kent and Josie Tomic qualified fastest in three minutes 22.519 seconds, just shy of the Australian record 3:21.417 they set at last year's nationals.

The USA set the world record of 3:19.569 two years ago and Tomic expects new marks to be set repeatedly ahead of the London Olympics.
Title: Re: General news thread
Post by: GreasyMonkey on January 28, 2012, 15:10
It's incredible to see a state team ride such a fast time - sheesh, it was only 12 years ago that the 4 minute barrier was broken by Great Britain (I think it was them...)

Mind you, having Jack Borbridge & Rohan Dennis on the team always helps, although both are not in top form at present due to crashes and heavy schedule on the road.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Arb on January 28, 2012, 15:59
The WA girls did a 3:21.618.

Bobridge won the Men's scratch, although there was a nasty crash.

Edmonson won the Women's points, continuing her good run.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 28, 2012, 16:21
(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/01/29/2923178/cycle_al1-200x0.jpg)

22nd national title, when she won the sprint final

Alex Bird won the mens

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/meares-wins-sprint-as-bird-soars-20120128-1qnj9.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/meares-wins-sprint-as-bird-soars-20120128-1qnj9.html)

Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 30, 2012, 07:39
amazing turn around from 4 years ago

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/meares-on-a-much-clearer-path-to-london-20120130-1qphv.html (http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/meares-on-a-much-clearer-path-to-london-20120130-1qphv.html)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 30, 2012, 07:42
Jacky Boy wins points race 3rd gold at Oz Titles

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/34547/Bobridge-wins-points-race (http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/34547/Bobridge-wins-points-race)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Arb on January 30, 2012, 09:43
Should really be Australia's man for the Omnium (him or Meyer) in London. Doubt it will happen though as he's leader of the TP, will want complete focus on those 4km.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 30, 2012, 09:45
Should really be Australia's man for the Omnium (him or Meyer) in London. Doubt it will happen though as he's leader of the TP, will want complete focus on those 4km.

Agreed,  they want that Gold  and Anna to win the rest gravy
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Arb on January 31, 2012, 05:31
Australian team for London WC

http://www.cycling.org.au/?Page=45504 (http://www.cycling.org.au/?Page=45504)

New fast track? WR under threat.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 31, 2012, 13:47
Team GB

Riders:

Sprint
Matt Crampton (representing Sky Track Cycling)
Ross Edgar
Sir Chris Hoy
Jason Kenny
Victoria Pendleton
Jess Varnish

Men's Endurance
Steven Burke
Ed Clancy
Pete Kennaugh
Ben Swift
Andy Tennant
Geraint Thomas

Women's Endurance
Wendy Houvenaghel
Dani King
Joanna Rowsell
Laura Trott
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Arb on February 01, 2012, 01:12
Meyer and Howard won Berlin Six Day. Not bad in just their 2nd go.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 01, 2012, 11:34
Meyer and Howard won Berlin Six Day. Not bad in just their 2nd go.

http://news.velonation.com/Men/Track/M/original/Meyer_Cam_Howard_Lei_Berlin12-1.JPG (http://news.velonation.com/Men/Track/M/original/Meyer_Cam_Howard_Lei_Berlin12-1.JPG)

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/11031/GreenEdges-Meyer-and-Howard-win-Berlin-Six-Day.aspx (http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/11031/GreenEdges-Meyer-and-Howard-win-Berlin-Six-Day.aspx)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on February 11, 2012, 05:36
Malaysian cyclists Azizul Hasni Awang and Fatehah Mustapa sooking about missed gold at Asian Cycling Championships
http://www.nst.com.my/sports/racing/cycling-only-second-best-1.44914 (http://www.nst.com.my/sports/racing/cycling-only-second-best-1.44914)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on February 13, 2012, 05:56
Hepburn remains critical of Olympic track program reshuffle
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hepburn-remains-critical-of-olympic-track-program-reshuffle?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0 (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hepburn-remains-critical-of-olympic-track-program-reshuffle?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 14, 2012, 08:16
"I'm a little bit miffed, if I'm honest, if I'm really, really honest," Brailsford told the BBC.

with trial event open to all

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/34811/London-at-last (http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/34811/London-at-last)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on February 14, 2012, 09:12
"I'm a little bit miffed, if I'm honest, if I'm really, really honest," Brailsford told the BBC.

with trial event open to all

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/34811/London-at-last (http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/34811/London-at-last)

come one viviani.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on February 14, 2012, 09:13
"I'm a little bit miffed, if I'm honest, if I'm really, really honest," Brailsford told the BBC.

with trial event open to all

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/34811/London-at-last (http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/34811/London-at-last)

He's not the only one a bit miffed. We were going, but circumstances have changed.
Cost was £900 for tickets for the family for all sessions. Last year it was more like £250.
Luckily, they were coming straight from "source", so we were able to offload them, with ease.

Anyhow, Eurosport 2 are showing the Astana, Kali and Beijing World Cup track meets over 3 nights, starting tonight.

BBC 2 have the final 3 hours of the OTE scheduled for Sunday.
The rest, I believe, is on the "red" button.
 

Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Tuart on February 14, 2012, 09:25
What is Brailsford's problem? I don't quite get it  ???
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Sizzle on February 14, 2012, 10:35
What is Brailsford's problem? I don't quite get it  ???

Loss of home ground advantage? That's the best I can come up with.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 14, 2012, 10:37
Loss of home ground advantage? That's the best I can come up with.

I think it is that but more of the mental aspect - minds games
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Tuart on February 14, 2012, 10:46
So nothing but spitting the dummy remarks?
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Arb on February 14, 2012, 10:58
lol Dave, cries when an event is on the other side of the planet and cries again when one is at home.

At least he's consistent.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 14, 2012, 18:51
Hoy v´s Kenny this weekend could help decide Olympics berth

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hoy-and-kenny-set-for-crucial-showdown (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hoy-and-kenny-set-for-crucial-showdown)

Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on February 14, 2012, 22:45
Cycling fans may see fast times at Olympic Velodrome during London Games
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/cycling-fans-set-to-be-treated-to-fast-times-at-olympic-velodrome-during-london-games/2012/02/14/gIQAwsFnDR_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/cycling-fans-set-to-be-treated-to-fast-times-at-olympic-velodrome-during-london-games/2012/02/14/gIQAwsFnDR_story.html)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Jamsque on February 15, 2012, 12:42
Makes me a little sad to see Super G on the track so close to classics season. I know he has a long career ahead of him but I am impatient...
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on February 15, 2012, 16:45

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/british-women-raring-to-go-ahead-of-track-world-cup?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0 (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/british-women-raring-to-go-ahead-of-track-world-cup?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on February 15, 2012, 19:55
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/british-women-raring-to-go-ahead-of-track-world-cup?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0 (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/british-women-raring-to-go-ahead-of-track-world-cup?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0)

 So says the 37 year old about one event for their 5 strong team.
 No reserve for either discipline, (due to injury and form) so both slots go to the men.
 Time for a full Sky trade team, methinks.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 16, 2012, 09:37
Swifty bits not so happy at the moment

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/swift-misses-out-as-the-ashes-loom (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/swift-misses-out-as-the-ashes-loom)

I do also wonder if he will leave SKY road team for the same type of issues
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 16, 2012, 10:33
G - Train interview http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/302438/Cycling-Geraint-Thomas-off-road-in-hot-pursuit (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/302438/Cycling-Geraint-Thomas-off-road-in-hot-pursuit)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on February 16, 2012, 14:33
schedule
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on February 16, 2012, 17:38
schedule

I've downloaded mine, seeing as I'm now going to be in front of the tv, instead of on the finish line. :(

Live timings can be opened here, for all events:
http://www.tissottiming.com/ (http://www.tissottiming.com/)

Click on live timing 1etc and open with Java or whatever. Quite safe.

Wendy H's words are ringing slightly hollow, as GB qualify behind Canada, but make the final at the expense of Oz.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: brassyn on February 16, 2012, 22:09
http://tinyurl.com/6ss9h22 (http://tinyurl.com/6ss9h22) The German sprint guys somehow manage to pose completely terribly for a picture  ;D
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2012, 08:34
UCI present Kenny with WC jersey now Baugé suspended

Cool at the London UCI event yep

in a media room with 6000 people above, and then gives him the Junior jersey for the media to takes picture off

Muppets

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-scores-own-goal-with-kenny-presentation (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-scores-own-goal-with-kenny-presentation)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on February 20, 2012, 21:25
Brailsford nurtures shoots of growth as Great Britain march towards London Olympics

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-nurtures-shoots-of-growth-as-great-britain-march-towards-london-olympics (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-nurtures-shoots-of-growth-as-great-britain-march-towards-london-olympics)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 21, 2012, 08:55
Not so much velodrome news, more a question...

Watching the track world cup over the weekend, I was struck by how the sprinters invariably sprint sitting down, rather than getting out of the saddle (although they do get out of the saddle for the initial acceleration).  Does this give more power?  Why is velodrome sprinting technique so different to that on the road?

And also, have the UCI given any reasons why have the world cup leaders have had to wear those terrible grey jerseys rather than the white with red and blue stripes that world cup leaders normally wear?
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on March 02, 2012, 14:05
Belarus to hold World Cycle Track Championship in 2013 on highest level.
http://www.tvr.by/eng/president.asp?id=63594 (http://www.tvr.by/eng/president.asp?id=63594)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on March 05, 2012, 06:31
Turbo Durbo retired from the track.

Will not ride track olympics.

Greenedge neo now - training camp in the states then 3 days of pain to start.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Tuart on March 05, 2012, 12:43
Wow. I wonder about the backroom politics relating to this decision. Huge call and now makes not picking him in CQ even worse. :D
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on March 08, 2012, 08:32
oz track selection

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/australian-selections-still-on-the-line-for-uci-track-world-championships (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/australian-selections-still-on-the-line-for-uci-track-world-championships)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on March 08, 2012, 08:51
oz track selection

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/australian-selections-still-on-the-line-for-uci-track-world-championships (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/australian-selections-still-on-the-line-for-uci-track-world-championships)
North Korean propaganda have been known to be more transparent than that press release. Cycling Australia have revealed sweet fark all.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Arb on March 09, 2012, 13:55
North Korean propaganda have been known to be more transparent than that press release. Cycling Australia have revealed sweet fark all.

Yeh, here I was thinking it might actually contain some news we didn't already know, or a decent analysis of the situation, who should be picked and why.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on March 12, 2012, 12:40
Super up to date news,
Spoiler (hover to show)
Decent Panamerican track championships for T&T. 2 golds, Quincy Alexander (18 year old in his first international event) in the kilo time trial and Njisane Phillip in the sprint. The kilometre time trial was cancelled the day earlier and second place Mansker was leading.

Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on March 14, 2012, 11:15
Cyclones selection for the 2012 UCI Track World Championships:

Sprint Group

The eight sprint events are team sprint, sprint, keirin and time trial for both men and women.

Kaarle MCCULLOCH (Gymea Bay, NSW 20.01.1988) 2011 team sprint world champion
Anna MEARES (West Richmond, SA [formerly QLD] 21.09.1983) 2011 team sprint, sprint and keirin world champion

Matthew GLAETZER (Paradise, SA, 24.08.1992)
James GLASSPOOL (Fairview Park, SA 08.06.1991)
Shane PERKINS (Clayton South, VIC 30.12.1986) 2011 keirin world champion
Scott SUNDERLAND (Waneroo, WA 16.03.1988)

Endurance Group

The eleven endurance events are men's and women's team pursuit, individual pursuit, scratch race, points race and omnium plus the Madison for men.

Ashlee ANKUDINOFF (Menai, NSW, 20.08.1990)
Amy CURE (Penguin, TAS 31.12.1992)
Annette EDMONDSON (Stirling, SA, 12.12.1991)
Melissa HOSKINS (Lesmurdie, WA, 24.02.1991)
Josephine TOMIC (Perth, WA, 09.06.1989)

Jack BOBRIDGE (Evanston Park, SA, 13.07.1989) * 2011 individual and team pursuit world champion
Rohan DENNIS (Vale Park, SA 28.05.1990) * 2011 team pursuit world champion
Alexander EDMONDSON (Stirling, SA 22.12.1993) *
Michael HEPBURN (Brookfield, QLD 17.08.1991) * 2011 team pursuit world champion
Leigh HOWARD (Waurn Ponds, VIC, 18.10.1989) 2011 Madison world champion
Cameron MEYER (Helena Valley, WA 11.01.1988) 2011 Madison world champion
Mitchell MULHERN (Carseldine, QLD 22.01.1991) *
Glenn O'SHEA (Ridleyton, SA [formerly VIC] 14.06.1989)


Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/11363/Impressive-Australian-lineup-named-for-world-track-championshps.aspx#ixzz1p5ZTOHJp (http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/11363/Impressive-Australian-lineup-named-for-world-track-championshps.aspx#ixzz1p5ZTOHJp)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on March 17, 2012, 05:05
Australian National Junior track championships coming to an end today. Travis Smedley and Courtney Field (Victoria) have had decent nationals. Smedley won the Time Trial (500m) in the U17 age group, the individual sprint gold and was also part of the winning NSW team sprint. Courtney Field won the women's TT in the U17 group and the Individual sprint.

Full results
http://www.cycling.org.au/?ID=45239 (http://www.cycling.org.au/?ID=45239)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on March 20, 2012, 22:18
Banned NZ cyclist Adam Stewart ponders return

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-newspapers/central-north-island/sport/sport-region-6459/6608630/Banned-NZ-cyclist-Adam-Stewart-ponders-return (http://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-newspapers/central-north-island/sport/sport-region-6459/6608630/Banned-NZ-cyclist-Adam-Stewart-ponders-return)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on March 26, 2012, 08:21
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/35463/Sutton-backs-Olympic-team-pursuit-champions (http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/35463/Sutton-backs-Olympic-team-pursuit-champions)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on March 27, 2012, 12:26
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/35473/Arch-rivals-prepare-for-track-worlds (http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/35473/Arch-rivals-prepare-for-track-worlds)

Anna V´s Victoria heating up
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on March 28, 2012, 05:22
http://eurosport.yahoo.com/27032012/58/pendleton-stokes-meares-rivalry-melbourne.html (http://eurosport.yahoo.com/27032012/58/pendleton-stokes-meares-rivalry-melbourne.html)

Not really stoking the rivalry, but not exactly rosy
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on March 30, 2012, 10:44
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kovalev-likely-to-ride-in-track-world-championships (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kovalev-likely-to-ride-in-track-world-championships)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on March 30, 2012, 18:42
Dave Brailsford: Track championships will set marker for Olympics
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/mar/30/dave-brailsford-track-championships-olympics?newsfeed=true (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/mar/30/dave-brailsford-track-championships-olympics?newsfeed=true)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on April 04, 2012, 13:38
World Track Championships: World Records and Controversy dominate day one


 http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/11538/World-Track-Championships-World-Records-and-Controversy-dominate-day-one.aspx#ixzz1r4hD2RDG (http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/11538/World-Track-Championships-World-Records-and-Controversy-dominate-day-one.aspx#ixzz1r4hD2RDG)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on April 05, 2012, 01:15
Chris Hoy motivated by 'different challenge' of London 2012
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/17606711 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/17606711)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Zam on April 10, 2012, 11:51
Track Cycling World Championships 2012: five things we learnt from Melbourne

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/picturegalleries/9194945/Track-Cycling-World-Championships-2012-five-things-we-learnt-from-Melbourne.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/picturegalleries/9194945/Track-Cycling-World-Championships-2012-five-things-we-learnt-from-Melbourne.html)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on April 12, 2012, 11:50
(http://cdn3.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net//2012/04/07/2/2012twc7_01_220.jpg)

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/geraint-thomas-not-flustered-by-sutton-comments (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/geraint-thomas-not-flustered-by-sutton-comments)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 12, 2012, 12:26
Think he's got a point.  For an organisation that  are so 'good' on marginal gains etc. it seems odds that they didn't insist that the test event be exclusively for British riders.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/17688871 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/17688871)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on June 11, 2012, 17:04
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/olympians-fullblown-pursuit-of-a-winning-edge-20120611-20666.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/olympians-fullblown-pursuit-of-a-winning-edge-20120611-20666.html)

cool video

not sure if it is all smoke and mirrors  :D
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on July 18, 2012, 22:17
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01l1yl4/Victoria_Pendleton_Cyclings_Golden_Girl/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01l1yl4/Victoria_Pendleton_Cyclings_Golden_Girl/)

Really good documentary on Vicky P.  Covers her 'journey' from 2003 through to the present day.  Lots on her relationship with British Cycling - who I think come across as complete control freaks, particularly regarding her personal life, and her rivalry with Meares.  Oh, and lots of tears.  8)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: froome19 on July 18, 2012, 22:21
Indeed I find her a very unstable figure and one who has quite a big mouth even though originally she doesnt come across that way.

In terms of he medal chances it is obvious that Meares is slightly faster but as she showed recently in London it is not all about the speed in track sprinting. Yet I am afraid her and many of the public may be disappointed especially as she seems to be the female match to Hoy when it comes to being the UK team poster lass.

Also there now seems to be Guo and Krupekaite coming through who also may give here a run for her money.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on July 18, 2012, 22:37
Certainly agree regarding her mental fragility - and she is the first to credit Steve Peters with all the work that he has done with her over the years.  She's spoken in the past about struggling with motivation after Beijing, and obviously her fiancee leaving the BC set up and her being isolated wouldn't have helped.  As she intimated as well, she's often felt the pressure to succeed just to be accepted within BC.  She is seen as the female Hoy - and at a slight tangent, I think part of the reason behind the restructuring of the Olympic track programme was due  to the fact that she could only win 1 gold in Beijing whereas Hoy got 3, and Chris Hoy is Chris Hoy - a Velodrome legend, so quite an imposing individual to be compared to!

On the track, you're right; Meares has the brute power, Pendleton - when on top form, has that X factor I think.  Either way, fingers crossed that they meet in the final, and it should be one of the top races in the Velodrome. 
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Archieboy on October 30, 2012, 19:48
Revolutin Series, round 1 highlights will be on ITV4 wed 31 Oct, 8- 9 pm..
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on November 20, 2012, 08:18
(http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/resize/file/3959_brailsford-640-getty.jpg/id/32196/w/640/h/360)

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/track/news/40895/Brailsford%20commits%20to%202016%20Rio%20Olympics (http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/track/news/40895/Brailsford%20commits%20to%202016%20Rio%20Olympics)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on November 20, 2012, 17:27
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lasse-norman-hansen-named-danish-cyclist-of-the-year (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lasse-norman-hansen-named-danish-cyclist-of-the-year)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Sauna in Duvel on November 22, 2012, 15:19
From the Twitterz..

@mrendell Quite a lot of people hurt during the making of this video: http://www.trackworldcup.co.uk/News/Article/1561/1 (http://www.trackworldcup.co.uk/News/Article/1561/1)

Crashes from Glasgow compilation. Ouch.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Archieboy on December 03, 2012, 07:22
The latest round of the Revolution Series highlights, ITV4 Wed 5/12 from 8pm
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: esafosfina on December 21, 2012, 10:05
Ross Edgar to take to the road. Small article in todays Telegraph.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: froome19 on December 21, 2012, 10:16
Good for him his place in the Team Sprint was increasingly becoming more non existent.. what with them trying Clancy there before him and all that.

There is a niche there but I do not think it is for him especially as there are some talented youngsters coming through..
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on January 04, 2013, 16:40
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20911244 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20911244)

Whatever it is that Hoy is wearing, I like it  :)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: froome19 on January 06, 2013, 18:56
Yep they are going well. And good to see our friend Iljo Keisse flourishing once again alongside one of my favourite riders.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/news/keisse-terpstra-take-control-in-rotterdam-hoy-leads-sprinters_270580 (http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/news/keisse-terpstra-take-control-in-rotterdam-hoy-leads-sprinters_270580)

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Iljo Keisse and Niki Terpstra are the new leaders in the Rotterdam Six after the third night. The Omega Pharma-Quick Step duo had their best day so far, winning the elimination race and the long Madison, where Keisse outsprinted the competition on both occasions by millimeters.

“This is good,” Keisse said, “but it’s still a long way to go. [Peter] Schep and [Wim] Stroetinga picked up a lot of points. No, we have only just begun.”

Quote
Chris Hoy took the lead in the sprint tournament. The six-time Olympic champion won the match sprint, the 200-meter time trial and the team sprint on Saturday.

Great to see Sir Chris doing well. Apparently he was the first one back training after the Olympics :pray
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Archieboy on January 07, 2013, 11:51
The latest round of Revolution highlights ITV4 Wed 9/1 from 20.00...
Title: Anitpodean Nationals
Post by: ram on February 01, 2013, 11:14
http://www.bikenz.org.nz/Story?Action=View&Story_id=124 (http://www.bikenz.org.nz/Story?Action=View&Story_id=124)

http://www.bikenz.org.nz/Story?Action=View&Story_id=127 (http://www.bikenz.org.nz/Story?Action=View&Story_id=127)
(http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-b.ak/hphotos-ak-ash4/484796_10151288531807989_566740499_n.jpg)
Steph McKenzie

Australia results
http://metarace.com.au/catn/program.text_page?include_jump_separator=y#program (http://metarace.com.au/catn/program.text_page?include_jump_separator=y#program)

(http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-f.ak/hphotos-ak-ash4/391840_595794693779355_205479684_n.jpg)
Mitch Bullen, Sprint champion
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: search on February 01, 2013, 11:24
there are some nice pictures from the Australian Championship on Ride's Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.476669099064499.111616.149819558416123&type=1)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537225_476669492397793_1848733915_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/22118_476669362397806_2070027043_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/540107_476669155731160_1836744745_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295495_476669285731147_288468163_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: mc_mountain on February 06, 2013, 01:04
Clancey 'abandons' team sprint in favour of pursuit.

Guardian Article :link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/05/ed-clancy-team-sprint-world-championships?CMP=twt_gu)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Jamsque on February 06, 2013, 03:47
No more Hoy = many many fewer team sprint medals for GB.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: froome19 on February 06, 2013, 22:11
Clancey 'abandons' team sprint in favour of pursuit.

Guardian Article :link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/05/ed-clancy-team-sprint-world-championships?CMP=twt_gu)
Wonder how long that took him to figure out  :rolleye
Also a lot more dependancy on Kenny. Hoy is a real engine but Kenny does have speed. They need to really get the combination right though.
You would never have thought prior to the Olympics that they had got it right for the TS, but in the end they got it bang on. Hindes is also talented and there are now two spaces up for grabs really as Kenny is assured of a place you would think, I really like the looks of Daniels.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 12, 2013, 10:20
(http://e0.365dm.com/12/08/660x350/WigginsCavendish_2814652.jpg)

Bradley Wiggins and Mark Cavendish warned over track cycling return (http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/15264/8494769/Bradley-Wiggins-and-Mark-Cavendish-warned-over-track-cycling-return)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: froome19 on February 12, 2013, 21:12
That is a bit random. I can't imagine they are that, that interested and I don't think Cav has ever properly ridden the TP.

Though on that note there have been noises made about changes to the track allotment for the Olympics. Possibly the Omnium out and Chris Hoy's Kilo in and maybe one or two more to bolster the ranks of disciplines after the reduction for 2012.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on April 11, 2013, 11:51
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on April 15, 2013, 16:18
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14377/Six-time-Olympic-champion-Hoy-expected-to-announce-his-retirement-this-week.aspx (http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14377/Six-time-Olympic-champion-Hoy-expected-to-announce-his-retirement-this-week.aspx)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Jamsque on April 15, 2013, 16:29
A bit sad that he won't make it to the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow next year but understandable.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on April 18, 2013, 12:20
As expected...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22198392 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22198392)

Quote
"I didn't realise quite how much London took out of me. To go on for another year would be one year too far. I don't want to turn up to wave to fans and get a tracksuit. I wanted to get a medal for Scotland and because I didn't think I could do that, I wanted someone else to take my place. Now it's time for younger riders to experience what it is like to compete in front of a home crowd. I will be there to open it and soak up the experience."

11 world titles, 6 Olympic golds and 2 Commonwealth golds. I reckon he's earned his retirement, don't you!?
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on April 18, 2013, 12:29
Absolutely.
Respect to him for making this decision. Commonwealth Games in your home country, in a velodrome named after you, must have been hard to give up on as a final farewell, hats off that he lets the younger riders take the stage.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Jamsque on April 18, 2013, 13:31
End of an era. Arguably the greatest kilo rider of his generation, and to go from that to being the dominant force in men's Kierin for half a decade as well as a champion match sprinter sets him on another level from most track riders.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Francois the Postman on April 18, 2013, 13:42
Yup, must have been a heartbreaker of call to make. But I am sure they'll squeeze in a way to solute him and his career over in Glasgow.

I suspect that without Hoy cycling wouldn't quite be the headline grabber that it currently is, in the UK. His success opened (and kept open) quite a few doors for others to pile through.

It's befitting he's making room for those that followed, who earned their place to ride too. And who will have to carry the torch from this point out. A home crowd introduction without having to ride in his 'last ride' shadow will benefit them too.

The buzz in Edinburgh when he brought his medals back 'home' was great. More folk who trotted out to see the open bus tour(s) than we get to the city centre crits they have been staging (since).

Alex Salmond will have to shelf a dream pre-independence photo opp though. In the run up to that, he'd love to have had another big blip on the Scottish-pride radar.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: AG on April 18, 2013, 14:43
to me, that is just class. 

To be able to say "I dont think I am the best choice for my country" and let someone else do it is just selfless.

Kudos to you Sir.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 18, 2013, 18:47
A great rider, a great champion, and a great ambassador for both his sport and cycling in the UK in general.  Chapeau, and thanks for the memories Chris.

Chris Hoy, Keirin World Champion 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_keqBnfKY7I#ws) 
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on August 22, 2013, 21:31
So, it looks like Sir Bradley is not the only one with one eye on Rio 2016 already...

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/540034/mark-cavendish-to-make-return-to-track-competition.html (http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/540034/mark-cavendish-to-make-return-to-track-competition.html)

Cav will team up with Owain Doull, the reigning British IP champion who took bronze in the 2012 British Madison Championships, at the International Belgian Open on September 6th. He'll take to the boards for the Scratch race, as well.

This is all because of the stupid interesting new rules governing qualification for the UCI World Cups and World Championships. Cycling Weekly say Olympic selection is affected, too, but I think they're wrong. The BOC will pick Team GB for Rio, with little or no regard for the men at Aigle (even if it's Brian Cookson at the time...)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Froome's Thoughts on September 25, 2013, 17:33
The London velodrome which hosted cycling at the 2012 Olympics is to stage the 2016 Track World Championships
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 29, 2014, 11:18
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfJKOMXCEAAINsD.jpg)

https://twitter.com/AnnaMeares/status/428486522375913472

Legend
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 29, 2014, 17:55
Which reminds me:
The Copenhagen (well, Ballerup) Sixdays start tomorrow!
I probably won't have go and watch this year - no time before Monday, and the prices for the final two days are over the moon.
But looking forward to follow it from afar; and maybe I'll decide to just go for cheapest ticket for Monday and/or Tuesday.

Preview (in *dk):
Feltet.dk: Optakt til 6-dagesløbet (http://feltet.dk/nyheder/optakt_6-dagesloebet_4/)

Post Merge: January 29, 2014, 19:20
Found a preview in English as well:
Ballerup Sixdays preview on UIV website (http://www.uiv.dk/commingup.html)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 09, 2014, 09:19
 What on Earth is going on?
Just announced that the venue for the 2015 World championships is.......................
.................................Mexico. :angry
So, they once again host 2 of the 4 major events for the second year running.

Looks like I'll get to go to just a solitary WC again, next season. :(
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 09, 2014, 09:27
Looks like I'll get to go to just a solitary WC again, next season. :(
At least you get that. Here in Denmark, we haven't had a Worlds or WC since 2010; and the Sixdays are overpriced and often not that action-packed as a multi-discipline event (unless you go on the final day, which is even more overpriced).
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 09, 2014, 09:55
At least you get that. Here in Denmark, we haven't had a Worlds or WC since 2010; and the Sixdays are overpriced and often not that action-packed as a multi-discipline event (unless you go on the final day, which is even more overpriced).

 Well, I just found out that I might have jumped the gun.
This info is from a pretty reliable source, so we sent it to contacts in Japan........
....who sent back an article stating that the new Paris velodrome had next year's WCs.......
(the only thing about Paris is that it's only held a small "test" event, so far)


God, I hope we are wrong and it's Paris.......
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: froome19 on March 10, 2014, 11:40
Well some is confirmed:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/aguascalientes-to-host-world-track-championships-in-2015

Quote
The 2015 track World Championships will be held in Aguascalientes, the Mexican government commission for sports announced. It is the first time that Mexico will play host to the World Championships. The Mexican city Guadelajara will organize one of the World Cup races in 2014, as it did this season.

Aguascalientes hosted a World Cup race this season and it proved to be a very fast track. Located 1,800 metres above sea level, no fewer than seven official world records were set during the World Cup meeting last December. François Pervis rode two and a half seconds faster than the previous, 12-year-old world record in the kilometre, and four other riders also broke finished inside the 2001 world record time of Arnaud Tournant.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 10, 2014, 19:12
 Crap, my info was right.

That's 4 major events in just 2 velodromes in 2 years for one "lesser" nation.
The UCI's globalization of the sport, looks more like polarization.
(might as well be at the Pole, if you live in Europe.)

Then there's the ongoing issue with clen.
Hope they stock up on plenty of tuna.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 11, 2014, 08:51
Hang on:
Quote
10.03.2014

The UCI notes the press reports that the 2015 Track World Championships have been awarded to Aguascalientes, Mexico. These reports are incorrect. Other bids are under consideration and a formal decision has yet to be taken by the UCI Management Committee.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 15, 2014, 11:27
For those wanting a last fix of track cycling, the final round of the Revolution series will be streamed live:
Afternoon session (from 14:00 CET, 13:00 GMT) (http://www.sixdayracing.com/video/Live-stream/live-stream-revolution-saturday-march-14th-afternoon)
Evening session (from 20:00 CET; 19:00 GMT) (http://www.sixdayracing.com/video/Live-stream/live-stream-revolution-saturday-march-14th-evening)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 15, 2014, 11:43
Also, the first Danish Sixdays star, Kay Werner, the founder of "pair no. 7" at the Copenhagen Sixdays, passed away Thursday night at the age of 92.

An obituary by Henrik Elmgreen:
http://feltet.dk/nyheder/kay_werner_manden_der_skabte_par_nummer_7_er_doed/ (http://feltet.dk/nyheder/kay_werner_manden_der_skabte_par_nummer_7_er_doed/)

A shorter version in English:
Quote
Kay Werner Nielsen in memoriam

Thursday 13th of March died in Copenhagen the former professional top-rider Kay Werner Nielsen at the age of 92.
Nielsen was the first real Danish Sixday-Star. He won in 1951 in Copenhagen the first of his 14 6-Days wins and achieved the last ten years later in 1961. He was the man, who created the legend of the famous Danish “Team No. 7”, always in the Danish colors. His first partner was Evan Klamer, but in 1958 he teamed with Palle Lykke, with whom he won 8 6-Days. Later on teams like Frank – Ørsted, Veggerby – Madsen and in recent years Mørkøv – Rasmussen have carried on the great traditions.
Nielsen was also an endurance-rider of high international standard. 13 times in a row, from 1948 to 1960, he won the Danish pro Championship in 5 Km indiv. Pursuit and three times he was on the podium in the World Championships in the same discipline with silver in Zurich 1953 (beaten by the legendary Sid Patterson in the finale) and two times bronze in Milano 1951 and in Copenhagen 1956. In 1956 he was beaten by Jacques Anquetil in the ½ finale. Anquetil lost the finale to Italian Messina, but afterwards Anquetil said to L’Equipe, that is was in fact Nielsen and not Messina who defeated him in Copenhagen…
In September 1956, at the age of 35, Nielsen made an attempt on the hour-record in Vigorelli/Milan. With 45,306 Km he didn’t beat the World Record, but his result was among the very best achieved so far, and it was for many years a Danish Record.
After his career Nielsen was for some years President of the Danish Pro Cycling Federation and from 1977 until 1983 sport director at the 6-Days in Forum/Copenhagen.

Henrik Elmgreen
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: KeithJamesMc on March 15, 2014, 18:38
The Revoluion series in the Olympic velodrome is live on youtube from 7pm/uk/8pm cet

http://m.youtube.com/user/FACECycling
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Leadbelly on March 25, 2014, 16:10
Track at the Winter Olympics?  :S

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/26734781
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on March 25, 2014, 16:24
The Revoluion series in the Olympic velodrome is live on youtube from 7pm/uk/8pm cet

http://m.youtube.com/user/FACECycling

I was there - bonus points if you spot me...
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Jamsque on March 25, 2014, 16:29
Track at the Winter Olympics?  :S

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/26734781

Weird! Cyclocross at the Winter Olympics makes more sense but I see where Cookson is coming from here. Most (non WC) track events are scheduled in the road off-season anyway, and the chance to re-gain some lost events like the kilo would be wonderful.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 25, 2014, 18:35
 What? I'm supposed to be going to Rio, not Pyeong flipping chang.
The track season takes place during the European winter, so it kind
of makes sense.
 How do they make the change though: will it be a 2 year, or a 6 year gap?
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: froome19 on March 25, 2014, 18:52
It is an interesting idea, but I personally consider a Winter Olympic medal less significant than a Summer Olympics one (possibly due to my sports orientation and country of residence). Therefore I am not so convinced about riders going off and winning medals which may of less significance...Additionally, the summer Olympics come at a time where it is summer (duh) here in England and it develops an interest in the Olympics of huge proportions (even if not in England). But I am not so sure about the timing of the Winter Olympics, I for one wouldn't be able to watch most of it, whilst in the Summer I could follow every second.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 11, 2014, 23:37
 
  Aguascalientes:#rainbow wearer number 2. :D .

BBC report video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/disability-sport/27000405
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on October 14, 2014, 15:09
It's time for the Sixdays again.

The field for the Amsterdam Sixdays has been announced:
1. Niki Terpstra / Yoeri Havik
2. Alex Rasmussen / Marc Hester
3. Leif Lampater / Nick Stöpler
4. Jasper De Buyst / Pim Ligthart
5. Melvin Boskamp / Jesper Asselman
6. Luke Roberts / Tim Veldt
7. Dylan Groenewegen / Nolan Hoffmann
8. Denis Rugovac / Sebastian Wotschke
9. Guy East / Daniel Holloway
10. Didier Caspers / Melvin van Zijl
11. Marco Zanotti / Mitchell Huenders
12. Christian Kos / Patrick Kos
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: batchuba on October 21, 2014, 22:16
Eurosport were providing relatively lavish coverage of the Amsterdam Six-Day, but a Derney driver got badly hurt and the whole second night was cancelled. :(

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/10/news/racing-halted-six-days-amsterdam-serious-injury-derny-driver_350139
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: L'arri on November 24, 2014, 10:49
Gent Six in review...

I love Six Day racing, which is actually in complete contrast to my only experience of it trackside, at this same event a few years ago. It was inexplicably dull, perhaps because the overall had been sewn up with a couple of days to go and the biggest other draw was that famous bricktop Erik Zabel, and the boozehounds in the centre were particularly rowdy.

I tuned in to Sporza's coverage of the last day of the Gent Six Day yesterday and it was thrilling with the final overall decided in the last fifteen minutes of the whole event. One could almost feel the pressure lifting off the shoulders of the winners De Ketele-De Buyst.

The crowd got a home win but what I think it really wanted was a Keisse-Cavendish victory, given the roaring reception the glitterball pairing got whenever it milked the applause or took a hard-fought win in one of the rounds.

(http://www.sport.be/media/photos/2014/november/keissecav.jpg)

Keisse, known to road fans as a humble OPQS dom, for that infamous stage win in Turkey a couple of years ago and to the population at large for his legal wrangles over doping, is a big star on the track and remains the darling of Gent as a multiple past winner. Keisse's pairing with road teammate Cavendish, who finished second here back in 2007, was a big success, regardless of what their perennial pee-on-chips boss thought of it.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: L'arri on November 24, 2014, 13:58
(https://alexraphael.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/columbo-main-pic.jpg)

Just one more thing ...

What I meant to say about Pi ss On Your Chips Lefevere's moans about paying out a subsidy on the kit representation was that his sponsors must have easily gotten fifteen grand's worth of exposure with this golden pairing.

Never in the Blinkered History Of Six Day Racing According To L'arri has there been a team that got to ride in their full trade team kit and, in this country at least, the week's action has generated a whole lot of press, especially with Cavendish and Peta and Delilah Grace acting as a cut-price, photogenic stand-in for William, Kate and whatever their kid is called.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on November 24, 2014, 14:23
Never in the Blinkered History Of Six Day Racing According To L'arri has there been a team that got to ride in their full trade team kit

Without wanting to pee on your chips, Laz, the 3M rider in the pic of Iljo and Mark looks to be in full trade team kit to me...  :shh
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: L'arri on November 24, 2014, 14:55
Without wanting to pee on your chips, Laz, the 3M rider in the pic of Iljo and Mark looks to be in full trade team kit to me...  :shh

A slightly awkward case that but I suppose you're right.

3M's pair consisted of Michael Vingerling and Yoeri Havik. Vingerling (in the picture) is a regular Team 3M (UCI Continental) rider whilst Havik is not (he was at CT De Rijke in 2014). Curiously enough, Team 3M's Melvin Van Zijl was also performing in Gent, albeit for "Eurotyre-JDK".
;)

Presumably that fifteen grand per head is the standard cost for sponsors to enter a pairing but usually it's the same (typically Belgian) firms like John Saey sponsoring every time. I still despise John Saey - which sponsored Madison World Champs Torres and Muntaner this year - for the horrendous, peasantlike advertising campaign it had on the wall of its warehouse which used to assault my eyes every time I drove to and from Gent or the coast.

OPQS being a solid road trade team entering a Six pair is highly unusual but I should have said that they didn't wear their standard kit anyway, because race numbers have to be printed on the jersey itself, so the design was actually different on the back:

(http://cdn0.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net/2014/11/24/1/sptdw532_670.jpg)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: neppe on November 24, 2014, 15:31
Weird! Cyclocross at the Winter Olympics makes more sense but I see where Cookson is coming from here. Most (non WC) track events are scheduled in the road off-season anyway, and the chance to re-gain some lost events like the kilo would be wonderful.

Both seems highly unlikely. Adding cyclocross to the winter olympics would limit the number of potential host cities even more. It wouldn't be a problem in Sochi or Vancouver, but for places like Lake Placid or Lillehammer it would potentially mean cyclocrossing at 20 C minus, or have half a meter of snow falling during the race.

IOC already have problems with getting host cities. Only Beijing and Almaty are still in the running for the 2022 winter games. A big problem is the high cost. Sochi scared even IOC. Another venue, a velodrome, will only add to the costs. So will a lot more athlets. And then there is the problem of what to do with a velodrome at a winter destination after the games are over.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on November 24, 2014, 15:33
Also interesting that although the Zipp wheels are obvious, there are no markings on the frames. Is that a 6-day thing?

Eurosport had coverage of the Amsterdam 6-day a while ago, and all the riders had brightly-coloured jerseys with each sponsor, but usually wore trade team shorts. Yoeri Havik was with Niki Terpstra on that occasion.

Kirby's favourite team was Kip & Snack, sponsoring Hester and Rasmussen. He couldn't stop saying the name... :fp
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: L'arri on November 24, 2014, 16:12
Also interesting that although the Zipp wheels are obvious, there are no markings on the frames. Is that a 6-day thing?

Eurosport had coverage of the Amsterdam 6-day a while ago, and all the riders had brightly-coloured jerseys with each sponsor, but usually wore trade team shorts. Yoeri Havik was with Niki Terpstra on that occasion.

Kirby's favourite team was Kip & Snack, sponsoring Hester and Rasmussen. He couldn't stop saying the name... :fp

Correct re kit. I think you can wear everything but jerseys, pretty much, as if you were leading a jersey competition in a stage race.

As for the bikes, no, it isn't a Six Day thing. Specialized S-Works obviously doesn't make the sort of frames these guys need. Everyone else was on clearly branded Look, Dolan, Time, ... etc and not to forget those mysterious German FES beasts.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 28, 2015, 12:01
a lot of track and OZ centered but cool vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgI9Nxuv2Ss
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on January 30, 2015, 10:32
https://twitter.com/BudgetForklifts/status/561109310734757888
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on January 31, 2015, 12:28
Para cycling will be on the program at Tokyo 2020, reports the BBC.

Quote
... para-cycling was included despite "serious reservations".

Para-cycling faced losing out after cycling's governing body the International Cycling Union (UCI) missed the original deadline to submit its application for inclusion.

However Sir Philip said the IPC's main concern around the sport was the lack of "high-performance track cyclists and the number of opportunities for them to compete at an international level".

"Although the IPC governing board approved the inclusion of cycling, it did express serious reservations regarding the sustainability of the track cycling discipline," he added.

He has urged the UCI to do more before the decision on how many medals will be open to each sport is made in 2017.

More questions to be asked of Brian and the motley crew over in Aigle
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on February 06, 2015, 11:21
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/gbcyclingteam/article/20150206-gb-cyclingteam-news-British-Cycling-announces-team-for-2015-UCI-Track-Cycling-World-Championships-0 (http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/gbcyclingteam/article/20150206-gb-cyclingteam-news-British-Cycling-announces-team-for-2015-UCI-Track-Cycling-World-Championships-0)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: DJW on February 06, 2015, 14:10
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/gbcyclingteam/article/20150206-gb-cyclingteam-news-British-Cycling-announces-team-for-2015-UCI-Track-Cycling-World-Championships-0 (http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/gbcyclingteam/article/20150206-gb-cyclingteam-news-British-Cycling-announces-team-for-2015-UCI-Track-Cycling-World-Championships-0)

Endurance squads look a lot lot stronger at this stage.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 14, 2015, 06:55
https://twitter.com/CyclingCentral/status/566433257009319936
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Jamsque on February 15, 2015, 02:18
flip yeah, that will be great!
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: DJW on February 16, 2015, 21:52
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/31430559

 :(
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on October 06, 2015, 10:53
 Just a quick head's up to let folks know that Eurosport have a heck of a lot of live track coverage coming up.
From next Wednesday, they have wall to wall coverage of the 5 day European champs, (both am and pm sessions) followed on Monday week by the London 6 days.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 28, 2016, 12:44
From tonight, yours truly will be at the Berlin Sixdays! :D

Looking forward to good racing, great atmosphere and all the rest of it.
I will post some results and impressions (and possibly photos) in the Track Cycling Results thread (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=6050.msg209689#new) ... and I hope to do some live-updates on Twitter (https://twitter.com/lukascph).
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on February 18, 2016, 09:04
 Details of the BBC's coverage of the London World track championships, March 2nd-6th.
Since they are the host broadcaster, it should give a rough pointer to worldwide coverage.
Imo, not great. Nothing at all of the qualifying sessions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/35542039

Our Becky returns! :) (but still some way off 2013)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on February 18, 2016, 09:29
From tonight, yours truly will be at the Berlin Sixdays! :D

Looking forward to good racing, great atmosphere and all the rest of it.
Here's my look back (in *de):
Sechs Tage Action - Eindrücke vom 105. Berliner Sechstagerennen (http://velomotion.de/2016/02/sechs-tage-action-eindruecke-vom-105-berliner-sechstagerennen/)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on March 09, 2016, 21:00
Well then... I promised to have the Olympic track quotas before the UCI released them. And - with much appreciated help and support from Lukas - I have them. I think.

Because the qualification system is one of the most impenetrable documents I have ever read in my life... and I spend quite a lot of time reading European legislation, so that's saying something! So with suitable disclaimers for accuracy, and of course the possibility that one or more NOC/Federation might choose not to take up all their allocation, here they are:

MEN
TotalNationTeam SprintInd. SprintKeirinTPOmnium
8AUSTRALIA *au341
8GERMANY *de341
8GREAT BRITAIN *gb341
8NETHERLANDS *nl341
8NEW ZEALAND *nz341
7RUSSIA *ru214
6CHINA *cn141
5DENMARK *dk41
5SWITZERLAND *ch41
4FRANCE *fr31
4KOREA *kr31
3COLOMBIA *co111
3CZECH REP *cz21
3JAPAN *jp111
3POLAND *pl3
3VENEZUELA *ve3
2ITALY *it11
2USA *usa11
1AZERBAIJAN *az1
1BELGIUM *be1
1BRAZIL *br1
1GREECE *gr1
1HONG KONG *hk1
1MALAYSIA *my1
1MEXICO *mx1
1SPAIN *es1
1TRINIDAD & TOBAGO *tr1

WOMEN
TotalNationTeam SprintInd. SprintKeirinTPOmnium
7AUSTRALIA *au241
7CANADA *ca241
7CHINA *cn241
7GERMANY *de241
7GREAT BRITAIN *gb1141
7NEW ZEALAND *nz241
5POLAND *pl41
5USA *usa41
4ITALY *it4
3CUBA *cu111
3FRANCE *fr21
3HONG KONG *hk111
3NETHERLANDS *nl21
2AZERBAIJAN *az11
2COLOMBIA *co11
2LITHUANIA *lt11
2RUSSIA *ru2
2SPAIN *es2
2UKRAINE *ua11
1BELARUS *by1
1BELGIUM *be1
1CHINESE TAIPEI *tw1
1DENMARK *dk1
1IRELAND *ie1
1JAPAN *jp1
1KOREA *kr1
1MALAYSIA *my1
1VENEZUELA *ve1
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 09, 2016, 21:27
WOMEN
TotalNationTeam SprintInd. SprintKeirinTPOmnium
7GREAT BRITAIN *gb1141
The *gb women will have two sprint spots, but one of them will also have to ride the keirin. ;)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on March 09, 2016, 21:32
I thought countries only got one entry in each event now but you have some countries as having 2 riders in the individual sprint.

Have the rules changed back or is it a case of 2 riders can be selected of which only one will be able to ride.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on March 09, 2016, 21:39
I thought countries only got one entry in each event now but you have some countries as having 2 riders in the individual sprint.

Have the rules changed back or is it a case of 2 riders can be selected of which only one will be able to ride.

I can't speak to whether or not it's a change, but the qualification system for Rio is definitely 2 riders/NOC/individual event. Those nations that qualify through the Team Sprint are allowed to enter their riders into the individual events as well.

Are you thinking about how Team GB had to choose between Kenny and Hoy for the Keirin in London? Because if so, I can understand your confusion. I mean - I read the qualification rules and I'm still confused!
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 09, 2016, 21:46
I can't speak to whether or not it's a change, but the qualification system for Rio is definitely 2 riders/NOC/individual event. Those nations that qualify through the Team Sprint are allowed to enter their riders into the individual events as well.

Are you thinking about how Team GB had to choose between Kenny and Hoy for the Keirin in London? Because if so, I can understand your confusion. I mean - I read the qualification rules and I'm still confused!
They changed the rules (back): Each country can have up to two entries in each sprint event.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on March 09, 2016, 21:47
They changed the rules (back): Each country can have up to two entries in each sprint event.

 :angry <--- This is latent anger at the 2012 rules...
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 09, 2016, 21:49
:angry <--- This is latent anger at the 2012 rules...
Yeah, they were pretty stupid.
Imagine *jm Jamaica and *usa the USA only being allowed to start one 100m sprinter in athletics ...
... or *ke Kenya and *et Ethiopia only one marathon runner! :fp
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on March 09, 2016, 21:52
Yeah, they were pretty stupid.
Imagine *jm Jamaica and *usa the USA only being allowed to start one 100m sprinter in athletics ...
... or *ke Kenya and *et Ethiopia only one marathon runner! :fp

It's one more than Kenya are likely to have in Rio...  :shh :-x
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on March 09, 2016, 21:55
I can't speak to whether or not it's a change, but the qualification system for Rio is definitely 2 riders/NOC/individual event. Those nations that qualify through the Team Sprint are allowed to enter their riders into the individual events as well.

Are you thinking about how Team GB had to choose between Kenny and Hoy for the Keirin in London? Because if so, I can understand your confusion. I mean - I read the qualification rules and I'm still confused!

I get it now (I think). So if you qualify for the team sprint you can have 2 riders in each of the other events but they must come from your 3 riders for the team sprint. and if you don't qualify for the team sprint you get riders for the individual events based on the relevant qualifying criteria.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on March 09, 2016, 22:12
I get it now (I think). So if you qualify for the team sprint you can have 2 riders in each of the other events but they must come from your 3 riders for the team sprint. and if you don't qualify for the team sprint you get riders for the individual events based on the relevant qualifying criteria.

Yes, that's my reading of it. We'll see in the summer how it works in practice.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 09, 2016, 22:15
Yes, that's my reading of it. We'll see in the summer how it works in practice.
It's my reading of it as well - which means it's true. :P ;)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 09, 2016, 22:21
And now to one of my pet peeves when it comes to Worlds/Olympics qualifications: The limitations imposed upon non-European countries.

The UCI has set maximum quotas of qualified countries per continent for the various events:
MEN Team Sprint Sprint Keirin Team Pursuit Omnium
Europe 5 5 5 6 8
America 2 2 3 2 6
Asia 2 2 2 2 5
Oceania 2 1 1 2 2
Africa 1 1 1 1 1
WOMEN Team Sprint Sprint Keirin Team Pursuit Omnium
Europe 5 5 5 6 8
America 2 2 2 2 6
Asia 2 2 2 2 5
Oceania 2 1 1 2 2
Africa 1 1 1 1 1

In the Olympic, I have no objection to limiting the number of European countries and thereby opening up for non-European participation. This time, the most high-profile victim of this is the *gb women's team sprint who missed out on qualifying by 3 points - 964 vs. France's 967.
I also don't have a problem with maximum numbers for other continents in some (not all) disciplines, like the omnium: The limits for America or Asia could well be reached in those. Limiting Oceania (essentially *au & *nz) to only one country qualified for the sprint & keirin if not qualified for the team sprint is alright, too - even if it's academical since both countries can be expected to qualify for the team sprint every time. I guess Guam or Fiji will be happy if and when they get a world-class track sprinter ... :D

But the limits for America, Asia and Africa in the sprint disciplines and the pursuit are not only superfluous, they're actually hampering the internationality of the field.

Here are the examples from this year's qualifying:
- *my Azizulhasni Awang doesn't qualify for the men's ind. sprint despite scoring 95 points more and ranking 14 places higher than *cz Adam Ptacnik (the second Czech sprinter as *cz Pavel Kelemen is even higher in the rankings). *ca Hugo Barrette, *sr Jair Tjon En Fa, *co Anderson Parra, and *jp Tomoyuki Kawabata also rank above Ptacnik.

- *mx Daniela Gaxiola doesn't qualify for the women's ind. sprint despite scoring 86 points more and ranking 10 places higher than *ua Liubov Basova. *jp Kayono Maeda, *eg Ebtissam Zayed Ahmed Mohamed, and *jp Takako Ishii also rank above Basova.

- *ca Hugo Barrette doesn't qualify for the men's keirin despite scoring 148 points more and ranking 8 places higher than *az Sergey Omelchenko. *jp Kazunari Watanabe and *cn Chao Xu also rank above Omelchenko.

- *my Fatehah Mustapa doesn't qualify for the women's keirin despite scoring 378 points more and ranking 19 places higher than *az Olga Ismayilova. *usa Melissa Erickson, *jp Kanako Kase, *mx Daniela Gaxiola, and *jp Kayono Maeda also rank above Ismayilova.

Effectively, *my lose two possible Olympic spots by virtue of being from Asia, a continent where *cn *jp (for the men's sprint) and *hk *kr (for the women's sprint) have higher-ranked riders - despite being far higher-ranked than the last-qualified nation themselves. At least, though, Awang and Mustapa will both get to go to Rio and ride the other sprint event that they have qualified for.

But imagine how *ca Hugo Barrette and *mx Daniela Gaxiola must feel, being robbed of a Olympics participation purely because their country is on the wrong continent! :(
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 14, 2016, 20:33
The UCI has graciously deigned to inform us of the track qualification quotas:
UCI Olympics Track Quotas (http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/News/17/54/00/Rio2016_OlympicQuotas_Neutral.pdf)

I won't go through them with a fine-tooth comb and compare the UCI list to the one CJ and I got to (or not tonight, rather).
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 15, 2016, 19:35
And here it is - you've all been waiting for it since yesterday: The comparison of CJ's and my quotas with the UCI quotas! :lol
I've marked the differences between our calculations[1] with red so that they're easier to find.


First, the men:
Nation TS IS Ke TP Om Nation TS IS Ke TP Om
8 AUSTRALIA OC 3 4 1 AUSTRALIA OC 3 4 1
8 GERMANY EU 3 4 1 GERMANY EU 3 4 1
8 GREAT BRITAIN EU 3 4 1 GREAT BRITAIN EU 3 4 1
8 NETHERLANDS EU 3 4 1 NETHERLANDS EU 3 4 1
8 NEW ZEALAND OC 3 4 1 NEW ZEALAND OC 3 4 1
7 RUSSIA EU 2 1 4 RUSSIA EU 2 1 4
6 CHINA AS 1 4 1 CHINA AS 0 1 4 0
5 DENMARK EU 4 1 DENMARK EU 4 1
5 SWITZERLAND EU 4 1 SWITZERLAND EU 4 1
4 FRANCE EU 3 1 FRANCE EU 3 1
4 KOREA AS 3 1 KOREA AS 3 1
3 COLOMBIA AM 1 1 1 COLOMBIA AM 2 1 0 1
3 CZECH REP EU 2 1 CZECH REP EU 1 1
3 JAPAN AS 1 1 1 JAPAN AS 1 2 1
3 POLAND EU 3 POLAND EU 3
3 VENEZUELA AM 3 VENEZUELA AM 3
2 ITALY EU 1 1 ITALY EU 0 1
2 USA AM 1 1 USA AM 1 1
1 BELGIUM EU 1 BELGIUM EU 1
1 BRAZIL AM 1 BRAZIL AM 1
1 CANADA AM CANADA AM 1
1 GREECE EU 1 GREECE EU 1
1 HONG KONG, CHINA AS 1 HONG KONG, CHINA AS 1
1 KAZAKHSTAN AS KAZAKHSTAN AS 1
1 MALAYSIA AS 1 MALAYSIA AS 1
1 MEXICO AM 1 MEXICO AM 1
1 SPAIN EU 1 SPAIN EU 1
1 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO AM 1 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO AM 1
0 AZERBAIJAN EU 1 AZERBAIJAN EU
TOTALS 9 9 9 9 18 TOTALS 9 9 9 9 18
EU 5 4 5 6 8 EU 5 4 3 6 8
AM 1 3 2 0 4 AM 1 3 3 0 4
AS 1 2 2 1 4 AS 1 2 3 1 4
OC 2 0 0 2 2 OC 2 0 0 2 2
AF 0 0 0 0 0 AF 0 0 0 0 0

Now, the women:
Nation TS IS Ke TP Om Nation TS IS Ke TP Om
7 AUSTRALIA OC 2 4 1 AUSTRALIA OC 2 4 1
7 CANADA AM 2 4 1 CANADA EU 2 4 1
7 CHINA AS 2 4 1 CHINA EU 2 4 1
7 GERMANY EU 2 4 1 GERMANY EU 2 4 1
7 GREAT BRITAIN EU 2 1 4 1 GREAT BRITAIN OC 2 1 4 1
7 NEW ZEALAND OC 2 4 1 NEW ZEALAND EU 2 4 1
5 POLAND EU 4 1 POLAND AS 4 1
5 USA AM 4 1 USA EU 4 1
4 ITALY EU 4 ITALY EU 4
3 CUBA AM 1 1 1 CUBA EU 1 1 1
3 FRANCE EU 2 1 FRANCE AS 2 1
3 HONG KONG, CHINA AS 1 1 1 HONG KONG, CHINA AM 1 1 1
3 NETHERLANDS EU 2 1 NETHERLANDS EU 2 1
2 AZERBAIJAN EU 1 1 AZERBAIJAN AS 1 1
2 COLOMBIA AM 1 1 COLOMBIA EU 0 1 1
2 LITHUANIA EU 1 1 LITHUANIA AM 1 1
2 RUSSIA EU 2 RUSSIA EU 2 0
2 SPAIN EU 2 SPAIN AM 2
2 UKRAINE EU 1 1 UKRAINE EU 0 1
1 BELARUS EU 1 BELARUS AM 1
1 BELGIUM EU 1 BELGIUM AM 1
1 CHINESE TAIPEI AS 1 CHINESE TAIPEI AU 1
1 DENMARK EU 1 DENMARK AS 1
1 EGYPT AF EGYPT AF 1
1 IRELAND EU 1 IRELAND AS 1
1 JAPAN AS 1 JAPAN AM 1
1 KOREA AS 1 KOREA EU 1
1 MALAYSIA AS 1 MALAYSIA AM 1 0
1 VENEZUELA AM 1 VENEZUELA EU 1
TOTALS 9 9 9 9 18 TOTALS 9 9 9 9 18
EU 5 5 5 4 8 EU 5 4 5 4 8
AM 1 2 2 2 4 AM 1 2 2 2 4
AS 1 2 2 1 4 AS 1 2 2 1 4
OC 2 0 0 2 2 OC 2 0 0 2 2
AF 0 0 0 0 0 AF 0 1 0 0 0

Analysis to follow.
 1. get off me, Sean Kelly!
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 15, 2016, 19:49
CJ & I aren't flawless.[1] We did make some mistakes:
- Kazakhstan is an Asian nation, and we had put it in Europe, depriving them of a Men's Omnium spot.
- Also, the quotas for the American continent for the Men's Keirin is 3, not 2 - giving *ca Hugo Barrette his well-deserved ticket to Rio.
- And we had somehow missed Egypt's qualification in the Women's Individual Sprint - *eg Ebtissam Zayed Ahmed Mohamed goes to Rio as well.

But the biggest error source was the quota per continent. This isn't calculated per rider, but per nation, leading to some, frankly, absurd results.
You'll notice that *co Colombia qualifies two riders for the Men's Individual Sprint. The first one is beyond reproach, as Fabian Puerta is ranked 3rd in the individual sprint ranking. But the other one comes through Anderson Parra. You may remember this name from earlier; he's one of the riders ranked higher than Ptacnik.
All good then - the higher-ranked rider gets the ticket to Rio? Well, if only it were that easy. For, you see, the highest-ranked rider not qualified already is *my Azizulhasni Awang. Fair enough, the Asian quota has been filled already, so he loses out. But[2] *ca Hugo Barrette and *sr Jair Tjon En Fa are also ranked above *ca Parra - and they're from the same continent!
Two American nations qualify a total of three riders for the Men's Individual Sprint ... but these three riders are not three highest-ranked sprinters from America!
This doesn't make sense to my in any way.
 1. Not that we ever said so, but, you know ... :P
 2. and now it gets really absurd
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 20, 2016, 08:22
 Part of the news I've been sitting on since just after the London worlds has now broken.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2016/04/19/british-cycling-drops-jess-varnish-from-olympic-programme-on-per/
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Yellow Peril on April 20, 2016, 09:00
Part of the news I've been sitting on since just after the London worlds has now broken.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2016/04/19/british-cycling-drops-jess-varnish-from-olympic-programme-on-per/

Do you think her axing was justified or is there any traction in the payback for speaking out rumour?
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on April 20, 2016, 10:15
All about medals for Team GB apparently.
"Chances of medaling slim to none", "no point wasting[1] UK Sport's money", "participated in 7-8 of 10 qualification events, beaten by the French in 4 of 5 head-to-heads" ...

Give over, Shane Sutton.
Varnish hit a point with you, and you don't want to have anyone who's using their head for anything else than putting a helmet on in your team.
You've thrown them to the wolves, and now you're washing your hands of them because they 'just weren't good enough to outrun the wolves".

This 'make-or-break' attitude is the same throughout Team GB and Team Sky, and it's despicable.
Not much (if at all) better than what Astana did with Kessiakoff.

But hey, they're the saviours of the free world, so that's alright, I guess? :barf
 1. emphasis mine
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 20, 2016, 13:35
Do you think her axing was justified or is there any traction in the payback for speaking out rumour?

 I wish I could comment, especially in the light of Lukas's "comment", but I can't.
Obviously things aren't as simple or straight forward as to allow conclusions to be drawn from today's piece or "that interview" at the Worlds.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Capt_Cavman on April 20, 2016, 14:27
I wish I could comment, especially in the light of Lukas's "comment", but I can't.
Obviously things aren't as simple or straight forward as to allow conclusions to be drawn from today's piece or "that interview" at the Worlds.
I'd hope these things are not as straightforward as they appear.

But even so, going from world record holder when just 21 to being a no-hoper in what should be her prime? Team GB have to take some responsibility for that surely?
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on April 20, 2016, 15:47
Team GB have to take some responsibility for that surely?
Always absolve yourself of as much responsibility as you can. Management 101. ;)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Capt_Cavman on April 27, 2016, 10:30
History is littered with successful managerial partnerships with one urbane, diplomatic, perhaps even kindly; whereas the other is 'as cuddly as sack of cobbles' as Jimmy Greaves described the '66 coaching staff.

We all know the sort of person Sutton is, and we all know that he's not suddenly changed, he's always been like this. And if we're honest, we all know that he's been incredibly successful in partnership with Sir Dave B.

So what's changed? He's now the boss and doesn't seem able to say, "....deep regrets...wonderful rider and human being...lots of incredible talent deserving a chance...limited resources...something's got to give...door's always open...internal investigation...manage qualification better in future...heartfelt best wishes..."

Nothing would change for Jess Varniss; but BC wouldn't have a ton of sh*te dropped on its head.



Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Servais Knavendish on April 27, 2016, 14:27
One rider dropped for demonstrable under performance

Where is the killer blow in what Sutton is alleged to have said - is the ref to babies really enough to can the guy... I think not

Now we have the 4 years out of touch Pendleton, only to happy to kick BC at the best of times, and the not involved in track Pooley wading in...

& now BC suspend Sutton 100 days from Rio, what a ridiculous press and media fueled crisis
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 27, 2016, 16:01
 SS has now resigned.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/36153485

Andy Harrison appointed to do what he can to hold things together.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/21773877

A huge blow to GB's collective medal chances, imo
JV will be ecstatic, but still with no ticket to ride.
Hell hath no fury....
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Caruut on April 27, 2016, 16:44
SS has now resigned.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/36153485

Andy Harrison appointed to do what he can to hold things together.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/21773877

A huge blow to GB's collective medal chances, imo
JV will be ecstatic, but still with no ticket to ride.
Hell hath no fury....

Will she be ecstatic? More likely just less disappointed. Correct me if I'm wrong but your post seems to imply that she should have kept silent in order to protect BC. Why? BC didn't protect her when they employed someone like Sutton. To me they've kinda made their bed, and now they have to lie in it. You hire a "confrontational" (read: unpleasant) manager then you take the performance increases while the going is good and accept that their ugly behaviour might blow it all up in your face at an inopportune time.

Unless she's made it all up, and got Cooke and Pendleton to join her campaign of libelous bitterness, and enlisted Darren Kenny to make similar accusations. That, to me, seems pretty unlikely. I mean, Sutton has barely even denied it: "I have made clear that I reject the specific claims that have been made against me in recent days". Just the specific claims mind, not the general ones of a sexist environment.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: kwikki on April 27, 2016, 17:36
Sutton had clearly made some enemies during his time, and it is pretty telling that one of them might be Pendleton.

It is the demeaning remarks about the disabled that did for him.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Yellow Peril on April 27, 2016, 21:38
Sutton had clearly made some enemies during his time, and it is pretty telling that one of them might be Pendleton.

It is the demeaning remarks about the disabled that did for him.

Yes that would seem to be the case. Looks like he stepped well over the line between being tough and a twit. As many have said he was marmite some loved him others obviously hated him. It's difficult to dismiss the amount of allegations that have been made in such a short space of time
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on April 28, 2016, 05:08
SS has now resigned.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/36153485
How have the others reacted? I realise there's some mention in the article, but in terms of their preparation for the Olympics...

All about medals for Team GB apparently.
"Chances of medaling slim to none", "no point wasting[1] UK Sport's money", "participated in 7-8 of 10 qualification events, beaten by the French in 4 of 5 head-to-heads" ...

Give over, Shane Sutton.
Varnish hit a point with you, and you don't want to have anyone who's using their head for anything else than putting a helmet on in your team.
You've thrown them to the wolves, and now you're washing your hands of them because they 'just weren't good enough to outrun the wolves".

This 'make-or-break' attitude is the same throughout Team GB and Team Sky, and it's despicable.
Not much (if at all) better than what Astana did with Kessiakoff.

But hey, they're the saviours of the free world, so that's alright, I guess? :barf
 1. emphasis mine
Hang on a minute... Varnish isn't Nicole Cooke. She's been a well supported athlete for a top track cycling nation where medals are an expectation. She failed to even qualify for the Olympics in the team sprint. Added to that the unprofessional interview post the failure to qualify... There's certainly a well justified case to be made for her dropping.

As for Sutton, I'd say the nature of the allegations are serious (and unsurprising). Much like Malky Mckay, made his position untenable.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 28, 2016, 09:00
How have the others reacted? I realise there's some mention in the article, but in terms of their preparation for the Olympics...

BC have kept press contact down to the bare minimum. They were prepped for the kit launch in London, yesterday, but as events unfolded, it became photographs only for the girls.
Laura T did manage to get a message of support for Shane out, but that's it.
Maybe this might help, from an old boy.
Geraint Thomas ...

Quote
OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM ME:
With regards to recent events I'd like to say that there is absolutely no place for inequality in sport, and the recent accusations made against British cycling need to be looked at and treated seriously.
However, I would like to talk about my personal experience and say that Shane is one of the main reasons I am where I am today. He has always wanted the best for British riders, and gone the extra mile for us. He's done more than most for British Cycling.
The inequity issues won't finish with Shane's resignation/investigation, there is a problem with inequality in cycling as a whole that needs to be addressed.

Hang on a minute... Varnish isn't Nicole Cooke. She's been a well supported athlete for a top track cycling nation where medals are an expectation. She failed to even qualify for the Olympics in the team sprint. Added to that the unprofessional interview post the failure to qualify... There's certainly a well justified case to be made for her dropping.

As for Sutton, I'd say the nature of the allegations are serious (and unsurprising). Much like Malky Mckay, made his position untenable.

 I have a lovely anecdote about money and financing, that took place between Jess and one, Miriam Welte, from the back of our hire car, but that's not going to appear here any time soon! :D
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on April 28, 2016, 09:52
That's a tease
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 28, 2016, 21:18
https://twitter.com/gallagherbren/status/725755095221161984?lang=en-gb

Quote
Following the resignation yesterday of British Cycling’s Technical Director Shane Sutton, I wanted to make the following statement.

A lot has been written about Shane Sutton and British Cycling in the media in recent days.  Given the seriousness of the allegations of discrimination, I welcome the independent investigation to be conducted by UK Sport and look forward to contributing if asked to do so.  I encourage everyone with an interest in the future of British Cycling to do the same.

I’ve no intention of providing my opinion on the allegations through the media.  With our best cyclists less than 100 days away from competing in the most important event of their careers, all those with something to say need to do so in the right environment and allow our fabulous riders to finish their Olympic and Paralympic preparations without this distraction.  I think Andy Harrison will do a great job taking over the technical director role and leading the team in Rio.

I do want to pay tribute to Shane for what he’s achieved for British Cycling and for me personally over the years.  I have never met anyone who gave so much to their role within any team and who cared so much for the performance of the riders. Shane expected 100% commitment from every member of the team regardless of their role and he led by example in that respect. As a coach, his uncompromising approach yielded unparalleled results for the GB team and his contribution to my career and the entire British Cycling success story was outstanding. For this, I would like to sincerely thank him.

Back in 2009 I wrote a short article in The Guardian on Shane as my mentor, which I thought appropriate to share today: The Guardian

It’s important to recognise that all of British Cycling’s success is due to the combined effort of a huge number of people.  There is a magnificent support team of coaches and other personnel who provide their expertise and passion to allow the riders to get the best out of themselves. That team remains, and I for one can’t wait to proudly watch our Olympic and Paralympic riders representing Great Britain in Rio.  Let’s all get behind them.
Sir Chris Hoy.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: DJW on April 28, 2016, 22:42
To be honest, I have no interest in what Sir Chris and G have to say on this, although I am happy to hear their opinions on a number of any other issues.

The attitude of Sutton has no places within British society, let alone government funded sports institutions. I'm glad he's gone.

If a proper investigation is to take place we need to hear from Pendleton, Cooke, Kenny and Varnish as well as others. Quite frankly, the opinions of Hoy and G are irrelevant as they are the ones most likely to be protected from any macho culture in BC.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: DJW on April 28, 2016, 23:33
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/28/shane-sutton-british-cycling-dirty-terrorist-alleged-remark
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 29, 2016, 08:35
To be honest, I have no interest in what Sir Chris and G have to say on this, although I am happy to hear their opinions on a number of any other issues.

The attitude of Sutton has no places within British society, let alone government funded sports institutions. I'm glad he's gone.

If a proper investigation is to take place we need to hear from Pendleton, Cooke, Kenny and Varnish as well as others. Quite frankly, the opinions of Hoy and G are irrelevant as they are the ones most likely to be protected from any macho culture in BC.

 
You will be hearing more from others, but it won't be for a while.
Hopefully, folks will readily accept what is said then, too.
 
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: cj2002 on May 11, 2016, 10:36
The attitude of Sutton has no places within British society, let alone government funded sports institutions. I'm glad he's gone.

There are aspects of British Cycling governance and the attitudes of Team GB - largely related to their Olympic obsession and disregard/disrespect for any non-Olympic championship - that I detest. And I have expressed my frustration at that on these very pages before, and no doubt I will do so again.

It was this Olympic obsession that, in many ways, boiled over into this whole Varnish vs. Sutton situation. And that was deeply regrettable for the image of British Cycling. I'm sure what has become public is only part of the story, but it seems that because certain things that Shane Sutton was alleged to have said have been reported, he has faced trial by media and fallen on his sword. DJW's point - which I don't disagree with - sums that up rather nicely.

And then I read the following piece. And it made me rethink. The central point is this - most of us are not world class, so to judge the goings on by our "normal" frames of reference might miss some of the context. I'm not sure this excuses Sutton's (alleged) behaviour. But it is an interesting think piece. The writer is Will Carling, former England rugby player who won 72 caps and as captain led England to 3 Five Nations Grand Slams in five years, as well as the 1991 World Cup final. Although he is a keen cyclist, I don't believe that he has any personal connection to the institution of British Cycling, so this is a pretty objective piece.

Quote from: Will Carling
I have been thinking over the Shane Sutton resignation and furore, and some other sporting issues, for a while now, and just had to make a few points, which no doubt will land me in 'normal' hot water............

My frustration and slight bemusement comes from what I think is a glaringly obvious mistake in this whole debate, which seems to have been missed by most. In all the articles that I have read, we seem to judge the likes of Sutton and other sportsmen and women, and the environment that they operate in, with the same measurements as 'normal' life.

I do not use the word 'normal' in a condescending manner, just in an honest assessment that most of us are not attempting to be the best in the world, hence our 'normal' day to day environments do not match those that are.......

So when looking at Shane Sutton - and I am not talking about sexism in sport here, as I do not understand how one man can be blamed for the obvious discrepancy in cycling, when the governance of the sport as a whole is surely to blame. I am looking at Sutton as a coach, and one that many of the current stars have still said is the one person they would turn to when the going got really tough.......

Yes I have met Shane a number of times, and he struck me as a hugely passionate man, that is obsessed by his sport, the athletes he coaches and the world he operated in. Passionate and no doubt infuriating, never allowing standards to drop........ever!

I have no doubt that he has said things that in the middle of an office would be totally unacceptable, but in the heat of a training session are part and parcel of that world. Elite sport is about pushing people to the limit, physically, emotionally and mentally, and that does not happen through 'normal' behaviour. If I looked back on what has been said to me and by me in the heat of games, training or team meetings, I would have been strung up by any HR department in the country.

World Class performance is not elicited by 'normal' behaviour. Such an obvious fact. Shane Sutton might well have over-stepped the mark in scathing remarks, trying to provoke a reaction, a performance, a great training session, but the man quite obviously over-stepped the mark too in the care, devotion and time he gave to his athletes too - so many stories of his being there for his charges at the toughest times.

I detest bullying, make no mistake, but I also detest the sanitising of a world by people who have no comprehension of what it takes to be successful in it......

World Champions, great sports champions, elite Special Forces, world class operators in music, theatre and business do not get there by 'normal' behaviour. So why still judge them by 'normal' standards.........

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/world-class-normal-will-carling
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 17, 2016, 13:05
 Comes as no surprise to me.
 Was the reason to make the allegations in the first place: the bottom line.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/36309473

 I guess that she doesn't think the GB track set up is quite the awful, sexist place it was, last week. :s
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on May 20, 2016, 18:04
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/left-side-drive-felt-fa-trd-team-usas-secret-olympic-weapon-for-rio-unveiled/

(http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2016/05/20/2/ta_frd_02side_670.jpg)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on May 24, 2016, 09:19
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/left-side-drive-felt-fa-trd-team-usas-secret-olympic-weapon-for-rio-unveiled/

(http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2016/05/20/2/ta_frd_02side_670.jpg)
Is that allowed under UCI rules? Just curious.

In any case, it's a departure from a century of bike-building. They better have some damn good reasons for it.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Archieboy on May 25, 2016, 07:31
https://twitter.com/sixdaycycling/status/735012519299944448

Nice, Wiggins & Cav pairing up at London 6 day.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Echoes on August 03, 2016, 14:53
Sport Foot Magazine / Sport Voetbalmagazine rated Jolien D'Hoore's chances for a Gold Medal in Rio at 10% and her chances for a medal at 25%



(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/898235JOLIENDHOORE.png)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/595489JOLIENDHOORE2.png)

In London she was hardly 22 but finished 5th at the Omnium event. Since then she became one of the best roadies but never could podium on the track (4th at the 2014 Worlds, 6th in 2016, ...). This year she somewhat disappointed in her specialities (scratch, elimination and point races) but seems to have worked a lot on her liabilities (pursuit, 500m, track lap ...). IN order to get a medal in Rio, the Flandrian is gonna have to set a personal record in the three ITT events and be in the top3 or 4 before the Point race since the women's race is very defensive and it'shard to overtake. If D'Hoore fails, it won' be a material issue since she's done 45 tests in the new wind tunnel in Paal in order to find the ideal helmet-equipment-position possible combo. Given the dominance of the Brit Laura Trott, it's not gonna be easy to get a medal. Besides, the top of the hierarchy has broadened compared to previous years wih among others the Frenchwoman Laurie Breton, the American Sarah Hammer, the Australian Annette Edmondson, the Canadian Allison Beveridge and the Dutchie Kirsten Wild.

She's the only cyclist they give reasonable chance to get one (road, track, MTB combined)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on August 17, 2016, 05:38
Congratulations, Mellow. Brilliant last few months for Becky.

Sutton's absence now a thing of the past, surely.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on August 17, 2016, 08:12
Congratulations, Mellow. Brilliant last few months for Becky.

Sutton's absence now a thing of the past, surely.

Thanks.
The most stressful day of my life, yesterday.
The most stressful 18 months for Becky, ends in double Olympic silver.
Looking forward to the celebration party when everybody gets home.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: AG on August 17, 2016, 08:20
:win

how awesome for her

:woohoo
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Echoes on August 17, 2016, 12:29
Jolien D'Hoore was front page of De Morgen, Het Belang van Limburg and Gazet van Antwerpen among others. I'll share the articles with you later on but just the front pages.  :)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/855765JOLIENDHOOREBELANG20160817.png)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/124589JOLIENDHOOREMORGEN20160817.png)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/348097JOLIENDHOOREGvA20160817.png)


Yesterday Gazet van Anwerpen raed her chance for success at 50% after the ITT, the flying sar and the point race.

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/375222JOLIENDHOOREGvA20160816.png)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9re90HG2dw


 ;)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: pastronef on August 17, 2016, 14:41
Peter Cossins ‏@petercossins
Jacques apparently looking for a Shane Sutton-type figure as link between him and track coaches


Peter Cossins ‏@petercossins
French coaching dir Jacquet admits to "problem of leadership, of management" in @lequipe . Says team sprint trio were a team in name only
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: stereojet on August 17, 2016, 14:56
Jolien D'Hoore was front page of De Morgen, Het Belang van Limburg and Gazet van Antwerpen among others. I'll share the articles with you later on but just the front pages.  :)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/855765JOLIENDHOOREBELANG20160817.png)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/124589JOLIENDHOOREMORGEN20160817.png)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/348097JOLIENDHOOREGvA20160817.png)


Yesterday Gazet van Anwerpen raed her chance for success at 50% after the ITT, the flying sar and the point race.

 ;)

I suspect I am the only person who was hoping she'd win in order to lead to the following headline:

D'Hoore Ace




I'll get me coat.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Echoes on August 17, 2016, 21:58
An article from De Morgen about Jolien

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/215824JOLIENDHOOREMORGEN201608172.png)

Her father Luc saw how she did an all or nothing for a medal.

Jolien's preparation for Rio was maniacal

Her father said that in London she was just 22 and now in Rio, 'she knew that the stress, the fierce competition and the greatness of the event would be there."

The months before she had slept three times a week in a low pressure tent in their garden (of her parents, that is). That is what his highlighted inside the article. On 9pm she went sleeping, which surprised the father. They would then have fun with the family because she was away.


Jolien is one of the few of the 18 participants to combine a road calendar with the track. But in 2016 she chose for a limited calendar on the road. She had to say 'no' to several races which seemed hard to do. The father thinks that this is her best performance ever, though she was World Champion in 2014.

Jolien lost weight but won muscle mass. She had other eating habit and the whole family seemed to have adapted.

 :)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on August 18, 2016, 00:59
D'Hoore Ace
I don't get it.


Am I thick?[1]
 1. Do NOT take this as an opportunity to comment on my weight!
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Joelsim on August 18, 2016, 10:22
I don't get it.


Am I thick?

Do you really want an answer to this Lukas?

 :lol

Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on August 18, 2016, 10:37
Do you really want an answer to this Lukas?
I know that I want an explanation of the "D'Hoore Ace" pun.

Answers to my own question are purely optional. :P
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: stereojet on August 18, 2016, 17:16
The U.K. Commentary invariably pronounced her surname 'durr-rur' as in dura ace. Admittedly it's a terrible pun.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Echoes on August 18, 2016, 20:35
Other article from De Morgen (it's today's)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/431575JOLIENDHOOREMORGEN20160818.png)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/485878JOLIENDHOOREMORGEN201608182.png)

Jolien explains to the readers that she isolated herself from all Internet and social media and her smartphone was off for two weeks, which means that she got a lot of sms's all at once, even from Belgian celeb's.

Belgian athletes were a real group who were having dinner together. Different from London with everybody apart. She saw Nafissatou Thiam with her gold medal and it inspired her, even though she couldn't have the same metal but she's glad with bronze.

She had told Ghita Michiels (MTB) and Elke Vanhoof (BMX) that she wasn't too emotional and that she never really cries but then all of a sudden came the tears and so Ghita and Elke smsed her, she was trapped.  :D

She confirmed having slept in an altitude tent as her father said, next to her chickens and goats.  :) She is maniacal and hyper perfectionist. Doesn't seem to complain about being constantly busy with her job, from morning to evening. But she concedes that it's typical for top athletes.

So she works with dietician Stephanie Scheirlynck. [I have other articles about Scheirlynck being not only Jolien's dietician but also Nafi Thiam AND Greg Van Avermaet !!]

Every calory that I swallowed is counted, every gramme is weighed. 

She's four years older than in London, so wiser and stronger. She knows how to approach each contest of the omnium. With national coach Peter Pieters, they've watched and studied dozens of video footage.

In theory it's a farewell to omnium. It's now Lotte Kopecky's turn. Very young but what a strong bear. She still must improve her sprint. Also there come several young talents with whom we can build a pursuit quartet.

She wants to focus on the road by now. To win the Tour of Flanders and the Worlds. But she's also doing a Master in rehabitation science and kinesitherapy.

The Belgian federation's policy re: track has been heavily criticized which she found unfair. She never could complain. A lot has been invested for her: wind tunnel testing, training sessions, special track suits, experts to follow her Everything was there in order to mix it up with the World's best.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on August 19, 2016, 09:54
Sutton's absence now a thing of the past, surely.
Or maybe not
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on August 19, 2016, 19:10
Havent seen this posted anywhere on the site yet so apologies if it has already been brought up.

Victoria Pendleton has interviewed Anna Meares and it will be broadcast tonight on BBC Five Live at 10.30pm UK time.

Hopefully some interesting question and answers might be produced from it.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on August 19, 2016, 20:24
Havent seen this posted anywhere on the site yet so apologies if it has already been brought up.

Victoria Pendleton has interviewed Anna Meares and it will be broadcast tonight on BBC Five Live at 10.30pm UK time.

Hopefully some interesting question and answers might be produced from it.

 My God.
Must be poor, straight talking Anna's worst nightmare.
I'll have to listen, but with the sick bucket to hand.

Now live, that might have been interesting.....
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: search on August 25, 2016, 09:04
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rio-medallists-want-sutton-back-w2fznbjfs

I can't access the whole article, but the headline says it all I guess
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on August 25, 2016, 09:22
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rio-medallists-want-sutton-back-w2fznbjfs

I can't access the whole article, but the headline says it all I guess

I can. ;)

I've left out the background stuff which is well documented.

Quote
Two of Britain’s Olympic gold-medal heroes have joined the chorus calling for the return of Shane Sutton, the coach who faces accusations of sexism and making derogatory remarks about Paralympic cyclists.

Ed Clancy and Owain Doull, two of the four-man team pursuit squad that included Sir Bradley Wiggins and Steven Burke, said that the Team GB cycling squad’s results from the Rio de Janeiro Games vindicated Sutton’s controversial methods.

However, Clancy, the unsung heart of the team pursuit squad and now a three-times gold medallist in the event, saw the other side of Sutton when he suffered a back injury that could have left him with a permanently paralysed leg.

Sutton’s return to the world’s most successful Olympic cycling squad cannot come soon enough for the team returning from Rio with their haul of 11 medals, including six golds. Wiggins had led the call for Sutton to return and he was backed up by his team pursuit colleagues, who recognised Sutton’s abrasive manner but said that the results in Rio spoke volumes for his ability as technical director.

“Shane laid the foundations for what happened in Rio,” Clancy said. “Should Shane be recognised for what happened in Rio? For sure, yes. It is right that this inquiry into sexism and other claims are sorted out. I have had my own issues with Shane and I suppose you love him or you hate him.”

Clancy suffered a prolapsed disc last November picking up a heavy bag and found himself facing serious surgery and the end of a distinguished career. “I couldn’t bend so I was bolt upright,” Clancy said. “I went out one night with the boys but couldn’t sit at a restaurant table so I had to kneel.”

The first text after his operation came from Sutton and then the technical director rallied an army of physios and doctors for Clancy’s rehabilitation. After three months’ recovery, Sutton put Clancy in the team pursuit at the World Championships, keeping faith in a rider who was still working on his fitness. “Maybe it was too soon but Shane wanted me to be part of it to be ready for the Olympics,” Clancy added.


Becky's already said her piece to the press, too:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2016/08/18/gb-olympic-cycling-star-becky-james-backs-shane-sutton---ive-nev/



Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on October 25, 2016, 13:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBwATHKNY2o
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Echoes on November 07, 2016, 20:34
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/143355MATHIEUVANDERPOELHLN20161107.png)

Great results for Belgians in the Glasgow World Cup event.

Robbe Ghys won the scratch, as U23#1 at age 19. He's also a good roadie, if I'm not mistaken. Kenny de Ketele was 5th in the Point Race and 3rd in the Madison with Moreno De Pauw. Also the Belgian team pursuit was 5th and very close to third place.

Lotte Kopecky was second at the omnium to Emily Kay. She won the elimination race and was 2nd in the Point race, by one point.


Nice to see Sylvain Chavanel won the pursuit !! 

(Het Laatste Nieuws)
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on December 08, 2016, 08:27
8 out of 9 claims made by Jess Varnish rejected by the independent review.
Only the use of the term bitches, upheld:-

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/806591270147788800

I am aware of a scenario, at the time of the World cups prior to Rio, whereby the collective term "bitches" could, and imo, should have been used.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on December 08, 2016, 08:42
Sheilas is offensive ?

Quote
‘Sheila’ was a common female name in Ireland, used alongside the name ‘Paddy’ to represent the archetypal Irish couple. From this early usage (dating from the 1820s in Britain) ‘Sheila’ came to mean any female, whether Irish or not.  This British use of ‘sheila’ was then transported to the colonies

http://andc.anu.edu.au/ozwords/December%202001/Sheila.html

8 out of 9 claims made by Jess Varnish rejected by the independent review.
Only the use of the term bitches, upheld:-

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/806591270147788800

I am aware of a scenario, at the time of the World cups prior to Rio, whereby the collective term "bitches" could, and imo, should have been used.

I seems to me that BC have tried to please both sides JV wins but SS doesn´t really get any damage to rep and will be hired probably by Cycling Australia

fwiw I recon SS is a sexist twit, but JV got screwed
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on December 08, 2016, 11:53
I'm not going to say that Sutton isn't a bogan. However, I don't see how Varnish got screwed. From the outside, it seems her results merited what happened. And that isn't even taking into consideration her "it's everyone else's fault" interview.

A situation with similarities to Pietersen, except not that good.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Tuart on December 08, 2016, 12:40
I'm not going to say that Sutton isn't a bogan. However, I don't see how Varnish got screwed. From the outside, it seems her results merited what happened. And that isn't even taking into consideration her "it's everyone else's fault" interview.

A situation with similarities to Pietersen, except not that good.
BA: "We regret all this happened and are sacking Sutton" but also: "Actually Varnish, we don't think 8/9 things you said really happened" aka what we actually mean by everything is: "Oh dear, this happened on our watch let's do what we can for PR and hope it blows over whilst not really realising we need to make serious changes".

flip the flipping flipers and if I still had my CA cycling license it'd be in microwave the day they signed the prehistoric flipwit. flip them too.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Tuart on December 08, 2016, 12:44
Sheilas is offensive ?

http://andc.anu.edu.au/ozwords/December%202001/Sheila.html

I seems to me that BC have tried to please both sides JV wins but SS doesn´t really get any damage to rep and will be hired probably by Cycling Australia

fwiw I recon SS is a sexist twit, but JV got screwed

"Sheilas" may be the least offensive (not non-offensive) term used if you look at them just on their own but in the context and the intent of the situations that SS was saying everything in then clearly, it was all wrong.

8 out of 9 claims made by Jess Varnish rejected by the independent review.
Only the use of the term bitches, upheld:-

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/806591270147788800

I am aware of a scenario, at the time of the World cups prior to Rio, whereby the collective term "bitches" could, and imo, should have been used.

I can think of exactly 0 scenarios where any male in any position of power, should be using any sexist language towards women at all, especially those under their care and employ.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on December 08, 2016, 13:04
I can think of exactly 0 scenarios where any male in any position of power, should be using any sexist language towards women at all, especially those under their care and employ.
This exactly. :cool
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2017, 13:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o2meHRmy0k
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 15, 2017, 06:42
https://twitter.com/Velorooms/status/831755099902971910
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Leadbelly on February 15, 2017, 21:01
https://twitter.com/Velorooms/status/831755099902971910

Some questions.

Does he have a Russian granny or summat that is enabling this switch? or is he going to change via "residency"?

Does cycling in general have rules on switching nationality? I just hope this isn't the start of what we see in Rugby (in particular) and some other sports.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on February 15, 2017, 23:45
Does he have a Russian granny or summat that is enabling this switch?
Hardly.

or is he going to change via "residency"?
Most likely.

Does cycling in general have rules on switching nationality? I just hope this isn't the start of what we see in Rugby (in particular) and some other sports.
The only rule I can remember is that your switch is only valid from the next 1st January. When de Maar became Dutch Antillean & won their national championships, he was first awarded UCI points for that - and later they were taken away again as he hadn't been racing on a Dutch Antillean license from the start of the year.

Davide Rebellin thought about racing the Worlds for Argentina in 2004 when it was clear he wasn't going to get picked for Italy ... but the UCI stopped that, saying he'd have needed to have been on an Argentine license from the start of the year.

Other examples would be Roy Sentjens who went from Dutch to Belgian between two seasons after having lived in Belgium for years. Leonardo Duque and Laszlo Bodrogi became French citizens and raced under the French flag from then on.

So, basically, as long as you fulfil your new country's requirements for citizenship (and for elite athletes these requirements are often bent or even waived), and do the switch in the off-season, you can do what you want.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 16, 2017, 11:23
yes he is becoming a Russian citizen but keeping his Australian will have 2 passports - all seems a bit crap
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: just some guy on February 23, 2017, 09:24
https://twitter.com/reecehomfray/status/834690901997785089
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Ram on August 18, 2017, 06:33
So, Becky James has decided to retire from track cycling and is setting up a baking business. Good luck to her on her retirement, but definitely would've expected her to be a favourite in Tokyo given a proper buildup (unlike her Rio games).

And mellow- which of the James' are coming through? Heard a bit about Ffion. Is Megan related as well? Saw a Megan James win at Fort William in the age group category. If so... You're the Bracewells of cycling. Quality players just popping out of every burrow.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on October 13, 2017, 14:29
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/british-cycling-reportedly-sack-influential-mens-endurance-coach-354952 (http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/british-cycling-reportedly-sack-influential-mens-endurance-coach-354952)
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/salzwedel-lost-job-due-to-ties-with-wiggins-and-sutton-claims-source/ (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/salzwedel-lost-job-due-to-ties-with-wiggins-and-sutton-claims-source/)

*uk track endurance coach Heiko Salzwedel was unceremoniously fired, apparently with little to no prior warning; and allegedly due to his ties to Shane Sutton and Bradley Wiggins.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on January 16, 2019, 18:41
 Finally, a conclusion is reached and it's not a good one for Varnish.
She has lost her tribunal case on all claims.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/46890146
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Servais Knavendish on November 09, 2019, 09:04
Watching Glasgow World Cup last night - really poorly attended by nations - lots of trade teams to bolster numbers; plus para sport needs to consider the bigger picture - watched a para event with three participants being given medals and then a single participant getting a gold in a medal ceremony!!! This demeans the value of para medals, I know it has gone on for years, any analysis of ms grey thomson's medals show a gap in competitors and competition depth going way back; but giving a World Cup gold to the only person to turn up is pointless, and damaging.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: LukasCPH on November 09, 2019, 10:43
Watching Glasgow World Cup last night - really poorly attended by nations - lots of trade teams to bolster numbers; plus para sport needs to consider the bigger picture - watched a para event with three participants being given medals and then a single participant getting a gold in a medal ceremony!!! This demeans the value of para medals, I know it has gone on for years, any analysis of ms grey thomson's medals show a gap in competitors and competition depth going way back; but giving a World Cup gold to the only person to turn up is pointless, and damaging.
I see your point.
But: You can only beat those who turn up. I was at the (road) Worlds in September, and in some classes there were only a handful of competitors. In one class, there was only one starter who logically won /gm & #rainbow.

I don't know what the solution should be: Running classes together if they're not large enough on their own? That would mean that (random example) the C1s would have a very hard time against the C2s; there's a reason they're classified as they are. Only awarding medals if you have more than X starters? It's hardly the fault of those athletes that do line up when they have little competition.
I agree that it doesn't look great, and is a problem. But I don't have a ready answer for it.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on November 09, 2019, 12:37
Watching Glasgow World Cup last night - really poorly attended by nations - lots of trade teams to bolster numbers; plus para sport needs to consider the bigger picture - watched a para event with three participants being given medals and then a single participant getting a gold in a medal ceremony!!! This demeans the value of para medals, I know it has gone on for years, any analysis of ms grey thomson's medals show a gap in competitors and competition depth going way back; but giving a World Cup gold to the only person to turn up is pointless, and damaging.

 I saw it too and have to agree. Quite embarrassing all round.
Things are only set to get worse as under the new UCI rules, with trade teams being barred from competing in the three remaining World Cup events left on the new calendar.
 Still, the good news is at least it's not just track cycling that is getting royally screwed over by the UCI, but also cyclocross.
Title: Re: Track - General news thread
Post by: Servais Knavendish on November 10, 2019, 11:06
I see your point.
But: You can only beat those who turn up. I was at the (road) Worlds in September, and in some classes there were only a handful of competitors. In one class, there was only one starter who logically won /gm & #rainbow.

I don't know what the solution should be: Running classes together if they're not large enough on their own? That would mean that (random example) the C1s would have a very hard time against the C2s; there's a reason they're classified as they are. Only awarding medals if you have more than X starters? It's hardly the fault of those athletes that do line up when they have little competition.
I agree that it doesn't look great, and is a problem. But I don't have a ready answer for it.

Yes that's where I guess we disagree

Giving medals where no actual sport has been involved (single competitor run) demeans para sport.  As administrators push for equality in the minds of public and organisers they cannot offer World Cup golds in walk overs - no matter how dispiriting for the few athletes turning up.  The public have to believe that a para gold was earned / is worth as much as other golds and three medals for three competitors or gold for soloists won't cut it.

I think other sports get round this by awarding one less medal than competitors entered - ie you have to have beaten someone to get on the podium, and if that leads to partial podiums or scratched events then so be it.