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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: mew on January 29, 2012, 17:03

Title: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on January 29, 2012, 17:03
Well, I have used a general complaint thread before, but if we need a place to VENT  >:( 
it might be handy to have this....OR maybe before we feel like posting a 'not- so -nice' response in the heat of the moment or--- if some post or comment is close to making us crack----just take a deep breath and swing on over here for a 'vent'!

Spoiler (hover to show)
  :-X   THere I feel better already!  :-*
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Training Wheels on January 29, 2012, 17:27
Just any random vent?

Is this the equivalnt of standing under a railway or transit line and screaming your head off as the train goes over head? Because that sounds awesome - I have been struggling to find a suitable tunnel!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dekker_Tifosi on January 29, 2012, 18:15
crap day or maybe even weekend with the boring Belgian dominated CX worlds... Ajax losing to Feyenoord, VVV losing to RKC and me losing all my table tennis matches yesterday (horrible start of the season for me).
Oh well. Can only get better
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on January 29, 2012, 18:15
Just any random vent?

Is this the equivalnt of standing under a railway or transit line and screaming your head off as the train goes over head? Because that sounds awesome - I have been struggling to find a suitable tunnel!

This just about sums it up.  ;D


btw I like the av   :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Thoughtforfood on January 29, 2012, 21:10
I'm a little annoyed that ChrisE is over at CN forums disparaging me.  Last week he sent me a PM and acted all buddy buddy, and now he seems to pretend to relish my ban.  Some people.

Anyway, that is the other place, but it was a bit annoying to me.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Amsterhammer on January 29, 2012, 21:26
crap day or maybe even weekend with the boring Belgian dominated CX worlds... Ajax losing to Feyenoord, VVV losing to RKC and me losing all my table tennis matches yesterday (horrible start of the season for me).
Oh well. Can only get better

I used to play, mainly 4th class, occasionally 3rd. What level do you play?

I'll join you in venting about Ajax, I was seriously p!ssed off, not because of the loss, but because of how bad they were and because the same favored players (Janssen) failied miserably yet again.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Training Wheels on January 29, 2012, 21:41
I'm a little annoyed that ChrisE is over at CN forums disparaging me.  Last week he sent me a PM and acted all buddy buddy, and now he seems to pretend to relish my ban.  Some people.

Anyway, that is the other place, but it was a bit annoying to me.

You are in good comapny - he just called all the CN Mods clowns. He seems to want to have it both ways!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on January 29, 2012, 21:58
You are in good comapny - he just called all the CN Mods clowns. He seems to want to have it both ways!

yes, he is just angry ....
can't help but lash or look for conflict. some do that...
don't be bothered TFF....rise above!

It has been SO WINDY here for DAYS on end that cycling is a chore...running is doable but I think the wind drives people insane. 

hmmm...I don't see a wild enough-looking emoticon
 :P :P :'(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on January 29, 2012, 22:06
you really dont want me to  ::)

Old people, disabled people, students, flip me, where to start.. :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on January 29, 2012, 22:36
you really dont want me to  ::)

Old people, disabled people, students, fornicate me, where to start.. :D

Whats wrong with us Dim!? ;)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Amsterhammer on January 29, 2012, 22:43
you really dont want me to  ::)

Old people, disabled people, students, fornicate me, where to start.. :D

Yeah, what's wrong with us Dim? ???
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ram on January 30, 2012, 03:07
The sook thread :D
My sook, I took a full zinger beamer from a quick bowler on my nipple and crocked my left knee while fielding yesterday. I blame Jonathan Trott's trots. Score the runs, don't get the runs.
the ball was not too dissimilar to this
(http://www.solarnavigator.net/sport/sport_images/cricket_ball.jpg)

you really dont want me to  ::)

Old people, disabled people, students, fornicate me, where to start.. :D
What's wrong with you Dim? ;D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: timmy on January 30, 2012, 06:15
crap day or maybe even weekend with the boring Belgian dominated CX worlds... Ajax losing to Feyenoord, VVV losing to RKC and me losing all my table tennis matches yesterday (horrible start of the season for me).
Oh well. Can only get better

gotta love tt.
my girlfriend is ridicuiosly good at it  :-\
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ryaguas on January 30, 2012, 23:33
Boring weekend... well not that boring but not what I expected...
Everyday looking for job... every job demanding a minimun of 5years of experience... damn you Oil Companies!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on January 30, 2012, 23:39
Boring weekend... well not that boring but not what I expected...
Everyday looking for job... every job demanding a minimun of 5years of experience... damn you Oil Companies!

Hope it gets better R.
In the US I think they will be ramping up some projects...like oil shale etc....is there a chance you could do something out of your country for a bit of experience?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ryaguas on January 30, 2012, 23:47
Hope it gets better R.
In the US I think they will be ramping up some projects...like oil shale etc....is there a chance you could do something out of your country for a bit of experience?

I've been applying systematically in Halliburton, Exxon, BP, etc... but always get rejected... US has an strong policy for foreign workers...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on January 31, 2012, 10:13
I've been applying systematically in Halliburton, Exxon, BP, etc... but always get rejected... US has an strong policy for foreign workers...

yeah, it's sometimes really weird for foreign workers in many countries, you need a workers permit before you can apply to jobs and you can't get a workers permit bfore you have a job
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gravel Rash on February 01, 2012, 13:50
My Whine session- I have just taken the roof off my pergola, cleaned it , sanded it back ,bought a new roof to put on and want to repaint it but it just wont stop raining on my days off = A big FU to mother nature
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Jraama on February 01, 2012, 19:12
Had my water heater blow out on Sunday evening. Bought a replacement, took out the old one and started to install the new one only to discover the gas inlet on the new one was 1 inch lower than the old one. WHY ARE THEY NOT STANDARDIZED?!
Of course by this time all of the stores had closed. Spent an hour trying to piece together a gas line extension from old spare parts I had, but could not get it to line up right. As midnight approached, I had to resort to jacking up the water heater that 1 inch to connect the lines so we could have hot water on Monday. That was a seriously crappy 4 hours of work.
Now that I have the right length pipe, I have to undo everything this weekend to fix it right.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on February 01, 2012, 20:41
I've been applying systematically in Halliburton, Exxon, BP, etc... but always get rejected... US has an strong policy for foreign workers...

Wow, that's like a who's who of institutionalised evil!  ;D Just kidding - best of luck finding something soon!  8)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: MacRoadie on February 01, 2012, 22:30
You are in good comapny - he just called all the CN Mods clowns. He seems to want to have it both ways!

That place is spiraling downwards rapidly. I won't say anything disparaging about the moderation over there as some of the mods are posting over here too, but most of the clinic threads have devolved into mindless arguments over semantics and posts meant to elicit argumentation from both sides. Posts deliberately filled with innuendo or double entendres, posts attacking posters and not the post, you name it.

Lots of free speach though... ::)

After wasting my time reading ten or so pages in the Armstrong thread, I am now convinced that I have a very good idea what a brain anneurism feels like.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: MacRoadie on February 01, 2012, 22:42
Popped on to Twitter to find my account had been hacked and I had gone from following 48 people to 948. Any idea how laborious it is to delete 900 people one at a time?

It's either Dave or that SOB Juan Pelota (Lance already blocked me on his "regular" account even though I never once tweeted him).
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on February 01, 2012, 23:00
 :-X
yes, I tried to read the Armstrong thread 'over there' and I can't believe how toxic and a what a huge wasteland it has turned into.
Too much rehashing of everything.
Too many bad feelings and sniping, even when I think most of the folks there are decent people in 'real life'...it's just the persona that evolves in a cesspool like that.

wow MacRoadie I guess I had better go check my own twitter account. That sounds grim....900 deletes. ugh.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 02, 2012, 01:04
Just found out my company is making redundancies, first one went in US over night. Likely to be some in Europe and Aus as well

means a crap few weeks of worrying about having a job.

everyone in office is miserable and stressed.

great.


 
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gravel Rash on February 02, 2012, 03:04
I am the opposite of you Dave , I put in for a redundancy but it got rejected because I am currently on restricted duties due to a back injury.

I was the only bloke at the station who wanted a redundancy that didn't get it.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ram on February 02, 2012, 03:09
That's farked up Dave, hope you're fine.

I am the opposite of you Dave , I put in for a redundancy but it got rejected because I am currently on restricted duties due to a back injury.

I was the only bloke at the station who wanted a redundancy that didn't get it.
Gravel rash on your back?



I'll be off.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gravel Rash on February 02, 2012, 03:16
That's farked up Dave, hope you're fine.
Gravel rash on your back?

Nah nothin like that lol



I'll be off.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 02, 2012, 05:04
I am the opposite of you Dave , I put in for a redundancy but it got rejected because I am currently on restricted duties due to a back injury.

I was the only bloke at the station who wanted a redundancy that didn't get it.

they always find a way to F%&k you either way. I am slightly torn as lots of stuff in the media about the areas i work in being hit hard and making redundancies in Aus so chances of a new job are reduced, but that is countered by the fact i have been here for 11 years so should get a fairly good payout if i do go.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gravel Rash on February 02, 2012, 05:13
they always find a way to F%&k you either way. I am slightly torn as lots of stuff in the media about the areas i work in being hit hard and making redundancies in Aus so chances of a new job are reduced, but that is countered by the fact i have been here for 11 years so should get a fairly good payout if i do go.

I was also torn . The place I worked use to be such a fun place to be but it's gone spiraling downhill in such a short space of time due to unnecesary changes that I wanted to leave.

On the otherhand I am in a Govt job so it's secure and great super benefits for the future, It's like they have got you by the balls and wont let go. For now I have accepted a Transfer to another station beginning the end of March.

I hope all goes well with your situation and you are not one of the unlucky ones.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on February 02, 2012, 09:43
they always find a way to F%&k you either way. I am slightly torn as lots of stuff in the media about the areas i work in being hit hard and making redundancies in Aus so chances of a new job are reduced, but that is countered by the fact i have been here for 11 years so should get a fairly good payout if i do go.

True that. But to my mind, the media are doing a great job of spreading fear around those of us who are now supposed to feel lucky still to be employed. Annoys the hell out of me.

We got an email yesterday morning from Barroso telling us how they'd all agreed on a great plan to create jobs when everyone knows they spent the entire meeting finding ways to shed themselves of Greece. Why do these people even bother to pretend they're in control anymore? Nobody believes a word of it. That guy couldn't even get a job at Costa Cruises.

Guy I know who works in Big Tobacco (and still sleeps at night), he's been there his whole working life and recently they had everyone "re-apply for their jobs". You know, submit a CV and a covering letter detailing why you are necessary. Demeaning doesn't even begin to describe it...  >:(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 02, 2012, 10:02
True that. But to my mind, the media are doing a great job of spreading fear around those of us who are now supposed to feel lucky still to be employed. Annoys the hell out of me.

We got an email yesterday morning from Barroso telling us how they'd all agreed on a great plan to create jobs when everyone knows they spent the entire meeting finding ways to shed themselves of Greece. Why do these people even bother to pretend they're in control anymore? Nobody believes a word of it. That guy couldn't even get a job at Costa Cruises.

Guy I know who works in Big Tobacco (and still sleeps at night), he's been there his whole working life and recently they had everyone "re-apply for their jobs". You know, submit a CV and a covering letter detailing why you are necessary. Demeaning doesn't even begin to describe it...  >:(

Oh god do not start me on the media selling fear. that pretty much sums up most of what is wrong in the world.

Unfortunately the stories about the big banks does not appear to be just the media, have heard from people that work there that there are restructures going ahead. At one insurer the senior management were forced to reapply for jobs, including steps they would rake to successfully reduce the rest of the headcount.

while i do not work for the banks directly jobs lost there will mean reduced project opportunities which is likely to reduce my chances of finding another job.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on February 02, 2012, 10:11
Oh god do not start me on the media selling fear. that pretty much sums up most of what is wrong in the world.

Unfortunately the stories about the big banks does not appear to be just the media, have heard from people that work there that there are restructures going ahead. At one insurer the senior management were forced to reapply for jobs, including steps they would rake to successfully reduce the rest of the headcount.

while i do not work for the banks directly jobs lost there will mean reduced project opportunities which is likely to reduce my chances of finding another job.

Yeah, this latter thing is where my head is at right now. Finding another job and just how much goes along with that. We only have one life - notwithstanding reincarnation - and I feel like the Man is telling me "whoa there, slooooooow down".

It's like: Better not look above the parapet. Might get shot at.
It's like: Better not look at the greener grass. Bridge might fall through.
It's like: Better not take any risks. Might not work out and there's no way back.

People around me, they're cancelling stuff. Putting things off. Life choices. Selling houses. Buying houses. Stocking up on tinned beef and beans and papering their cellars with tin foil. OK, so not the last one, but you get the point.

I'm resisting this. I'm trying to stay open. But I feel like I'm increasingly in the minority.

Damned if I'm putting my life on hold because of the profligacy of a few people.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 02, 2012, 10:16
Yeah, this latter thing is where my head is at right now. Finding another job and just how much goes along with that. We only have one life - notwithstanding reincarnation - and I feel like the Man is telling me "whoa there, slooooooow down".

It's like: Better not look above the parapet. Might get shot at.
It's like: Better not look at the greener grass. Bridge might fall through.
It's like: Better not take any risks. Might not work out and there's no way back.

People around me, they're cancelling stuff. Putting things off. Life choices. Selling houses. Buying houses. Stocking up on tinned beef and beans and papering their cellars with tin foil. OK, so not the last one, but you get the point.

I'm resisting this. I'm trying to stay open. But I feel like I'm increasingly in the minority.

Damned if I'm putting my life on hold because of the profligacy of a few people.

i have had intentions of putting my life on hold. Moving house for a start. turns out i am not that disciplined.

with the job, you kind of do not want to be the new guy anywhere, in case things go south. Also do not want to quit only to find there could have been a large redundancy payment a month down the road
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on February 02, 2012, 10:22
i have had intentions of putting my life on hold. Moving house for a start. turns out i am not that disciplined.

with the job, you kind of do not want to be the new guy anywhere, in case things go south. Also do not want to quit only to find there could have been a large redundancy payment a month down the road

That's exactly it. So you feel like you need to tread water. :) This is what bothers me at the moment.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Damiano Machiavelli on February 02, 2012, 20:44
(http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_oly_experts__11/ept_sports_oly_experts-669697041-1274300145.jpg?ymyrdKDDJZ2HkrHS)

WTF!  How many pints did the dudes in London drink before coming up these mascots?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: StraßenRennen on February 02, 2012, 20:53
They employed the same idiot the 2010 Winter Olympics did, or it looks that way. >:(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Damiano Machiavelli on February 02, 2012, 21:28
They employed the same idiot the 2010 Winter Olympics did, or it looks that way. >:(

These mascots look like they could show up in Japanese tentacle porn.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on February 03, 2012, 20:59
They employed the same idiot the 2010 Winter Olympics did, or it looks that way. >:(

that exactly. Remember the other blue,  I think, amoeba-like thing.
What is going on with the mascot design black hole??
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on February 06, 2012, 01:29
Cycling Torrents.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Operation_Upshot-Knothole_-_Badger_001.jpg/250px-Operation_Upshot-Knothole_-_Badger_001.jpg)

(http://stressreducer.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/bang-head-on-wall.jpg)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Training Wheels on February 06, 2012, 04:54
(http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_oly_experts__11/ept_sports_oly_experts-669697041-1274300145.jpg?ymyrdKDDJZ2HkrHS)

WTF!  How many pints did the dudes in London drink before coming up these mascots?

It's funny people said the same thing about the 2010 ones in Vancouver but in the end kids loved them. I suspect even though they look ridiculous that the same will happen here. All the 6 year olds will love 'me.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ram on February 06, 2012, 09:08
Spam.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: GreasyMonkey on February 06, 2012, 10:56
Ran out of heating oil this morning, cannot get a re-fill until tomorrow AM, so looks like a cold night ahead, living at 1100 metres in the Madrid Sierra.....

My employer has announced reductions of 25% of the total Co (17,000 out of 74,000) late last year, but then they keep the same clowns in the Executive Management team as they have had for the past 5 years.... seems that I will not be one of the lucky ones getting a DCM (Don't Come Monday). All I want is out with a decent cheque, then I can get back to enjoying life and get my own business up & running properly.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ryaguas on February 06, 2012, 15:05
CAS going nuts... cycling and the life of one of the most talented riders that ever rode a bike suffering...
a little bit of music for cheering me up working a bit...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 06, 2012, 21:52
Contador headlines has provided people at work with more ammo to slag off the sport i love

what's worse is i cannot help but bite.

not only do i have to listen to why cyclists should not be on the road but now that they are all dirty cheats and how come footballers never get caught.

and it is raining. miserable

oh and liverpool failed to score in football, which has cost me 2 places in fantasy football league. no Tottenham defenders.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on February 07, 2012, 00:49
Yeah Dave I feel the same. Those that don't mention cyclist suddenly have an opinion on it. Twitter is worse. Follow any other sport and you have people retweeting dropkick bogans with opinions...well you know who you can cull off your twitter feed.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: The Hitch on February 07, 2012, 01:48
Contador headlines has provided people at work with more ammo to slag off the sport i love

what's worse is i cannot help but bite.

not only do i have to listen to why cyclists should not be on the road but now that they are all dirty cheats and how come footballers never get caught.

and it is raining. miserable

oh and liverpool failed to score in football, which has cost me 2 places in fantasy football league. no Tottenham defenders.

Yeah Dave I feel the same. Those that don't mention cyclist suddenly have an opinion on it. Twitter is worse. Follow any other sport and you have people retweeting dropkick bogans with opinions...well you know who you can cull off your twitter feed.

Im with you guys.

Im a patient man, but if one day, be it tomorrow or in half a century, i could see the rest of world sport be taken down by doping it would be a life well lived for me.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: timmy on February 07, 2012, 01:54
pretty annoying.
ignorance is bliss.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on February 07, 2012, 02:22
WHAT a weekend!
Phil Liggett sent me over the edge.....

it's got to get better....

On the other hand...hope you are staying warm ok GreasyMonkey and all the rest over there in the freezer. ???
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: GreasyMonkey on February 07, 2012, 05:11
Thanks :-)

No too bad, it actually warmed up for the past 24 hours, and have plenty of firewood for burning, but no hot water...... Will be getting colder again tonight and for the next few days.

LIGGETT.... I saw the headline, andcould not bring myself to read the article:-( and of course the Spanish press is all up in arms at the Contador decision, people being interviewed in the street, etc, nobody is happy here!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on February 07, 2012, 07:48
I read the Liggett article   >:(

I am not sure how I am going to manage watching the Tour and listening to that ...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: pedaling squares on February 07, 2012, 23:17
None of the guys from the CN Hockey thread are here.  :(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on February 08, 2012, 17:59
The only jobs out there are jobs I don't want, but I will need to take because all the jobs I want have instituted a policy that you need at least 5 years of experience in legal positions, or a Phd  >:( SO this means I'll need to do a sh*t job for 5 years before I can even start to do something I actually want to do, or at least something in the area in which I want to work  >:(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 15, 2012, 21:47
At an ATM and the schmo infront of you decides to check every card they own and then don't take any cash out  >:( Surely it should be one card, then fuvk off to the back of the queue or check your bank account on the internet before you leave the house!

always wonder about people that get a statement. read it. get cash. get the receipt

why do you have no idea how much money you have?
why do you not use internet banking?

cash machine it says, not internet banking machine.

hate it when people do that and you are in a real hurry as in middle of doing something and realised you do not have cash

god i have issues.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 17, 2012, 01:46
When did it become acceptable for people to talk with their mouths full.

I admit i have an unreasonable issue with this (i have never understood why but i also unreasonably hate the sound of someone eating nosily) but really to hate it. For some reason that nasal voice people get when they talk while eating grates on my brain.

every day the women in my office get together over lunch and chat. full on for an hour. it is a very small office so they are basically sat loudly chatting at a table 10 feet from 3 or 4 other people that are still working. Normally it is bad enough but right at the moment one lady cannot wait to finish chewing to get here next exciting observation about her child out and is talking through every mouthful. I am slowly dying inside.

like i said above. i have issues.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on February 17, 2012, 02:40
wow! byop88 and dave...
NO you do not have issues!  :D :D  I thought maybe I was the only one that went crazy in movies/ tv when the actors work so hard at 'acting' casual and eat with their mouths open and smack!!!!
Makes me NUTS  :P

That is why I rarely go to new movies these days...there are no good actors anymore just 'celebrities'.  ;)  Can you imagine Bogie or Cary Grant eating with their mouths open?? 8)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ryaguas on February 17, 2012, 03:31
Uran and Rolland and Coppel taken in the Draft...

LSAFKJAOPKDFAÑOSDKFJÑOASKDFJALÑKSDJFALÑSKDFJALSKFDJALÑSKFJASÑLKDFJAÑLSDFKJAALÑDFKJALÑFDKJ >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on February 18, 2012, 11:53
hehehehe my head hurts :D :D :D :(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on February 21, 2012, 08:10
Well despite not using it since this morning I've somehow broken the laptop screen. Rather peeed to be honest, it was sitting in one place all day, not sure how I managed it. Crappy picture taken off my mobile for the schadenfreude among us:

 (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9141/pic0221042.jpg)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 21, 2012, 08:14
Well despite not using it since this morning I've somehow broken the laptop screen. Rather peeed to be honest, it was sitting in one place all day, not sure how I managed it. Crappy picture taken off my mobile for the schadenfreude among us:

 (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9141/pic0221042.jpg)

weird. no one else in the house?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on February 21, 2012, 10:15
Yeah there's someone else but only me who's handled it. Looking at seeing how much to replace now and whether or not to risk trying to do it myself. :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 21, 2012, 11:13
Yeah there's someone else but only me who's handled it. Looking at seeing how much to replace now and whether or not to risk trying to do it myself. :D

i am fascinated by how your day goes where you have managed to break the screen but have no recollection of how you did it

drinking?
random game of indoor cricket?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on February 21, 2012, 11:33
Those would be excuse I could attribute it too. :(

Used it in the morning it was fine, put it down, went to use it again in the afternoon and it was broken.

My only guess is I handled incorrectly when I put it down. Either that or the cat jumped on it when I wasn't looking,  :-\
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 21, 2012, 11:36
Those would be excuse I could attribute it too. :(

Used it in the morning it was fine, put it down, went to use it again in the afternoon and it was broken.

My only guess is I handled incorrectly when I put it down. Either that or the cat jumped on it when I wasn't looking,  :-\

Cat be using the pellet gun again
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: GreasyMonkey on February 21, 2012, 12:47
Piece of replacment equipment needed urgently for a job in Madrid was shipped from Germany on Friday PM by express courier, tech arrived from Germany last night, now find out that equipment is STILL IN GERMANY.... WTF???
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 22, 2012, 07:19
Working late as meeting the wife for an anniversary date at 7

got bored, reading the web and discussing with people at work

after discussing topics such as politics, new taxes, cr@p journalism, Kevin Rudd, inane facebook updates and more have now worked myself into an angry frenzy where almost any topic is setting me off in an angry rant

now have 30 mins to calm down before seeing the wife.

Managed to work myself up into an angry frenzy
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gravel Rash on February 24, 2012, 02:03
Was suppose to finish my pergola today but just had a call saying the material was not in.
 Not freaking happy was going to set up my new Barbe tonight , I guess the meat all has to go  in the freezer which sucks cause it never tastes as good once frozen
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 24, 2012, 02:11
Was suppose to finish my pergola today but just had a call saying the material was not in.
 Not freaking happy was going to set up my new Barbe tonight , I guess the meat all has to go  in the freezer which sucks cause it never tastes as good once frozen

Are you in Sydney as well (think i saw a comment about Swans)
if so that really sucks as first really nice weekend in ages. Would love a Braai tonight, but have no outdoor area.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gravel Rash on February 24, 2012, 02:19
Are you in Sydney as well (think i saw a comment about Swans)
if so that really sucks as first really nice weekend in ages. Would love a Braai tonight, but have no outdoor area.

Yeah I am in South West Sydney , I am spewing cause it is my only free weekend for about a month , got engagement parties , Birthdays parties and christenings taking up my weekends till the end of march.

I will just look on the bright side , I can still have some brewskies.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on February 24, 2012, 02:33
Yeah I am in South West Sydney , I am spewing cause it is my only free weekend for about a month , got engagement parties , Birthdays parties and christenings taking up my weekends till the end of march.

I will just look on the bright side , I can still have some brewskies.

Does not help you, but entirely based on reading your post have now convinced my Saffer friends to have a BBQ tomorrow at their place

Sorted
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gravel Rash on February 24, 2012, 02:36
Does not help you, but entirely based on reading your post have now convinced my Saffer friends to have a BBQ tomorrow at their place

Sorted

Good Work , Well played Sir.
 I have one of my good mates engagement parties tomorrow so free beer and free food is always good
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on February 24, 2012, 03:14
Well despite not using it since this morning I've somehow broken the laptop screen. Rather peeed to be honest, it was sitting in one place all day, not sure how I managed it. Crappy picture taken off my mobile for the schadenfreude among us:

 (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9141/pic0221042.jpg)

a very interesting and sad-looking glimpse of high tech frustration.... ???
how the heck? 
good luck
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: pedaling squares on February 25, 2012, 01:15
My phone is dead. Mort. TU.
Considering it is a work phone that keeps throwing work at me around the clock in the forms of email, calls, and texts, perhaps this should go in a celebration thread.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Zam on February 29, 2012, 21:08
I want to move to a nice english village in oxfordshire or cambridgeshire or i dont mind a small town in belgium. lol
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Anthony Moan on February 29, 2012, 22:01
I want to move to a nice english village in oxfordshire or cambridgeshire or i dont mind a small town in belgium. lol
Are you crazy or what, it is freezing out there.
Came here, I can always find you some desert island for you ::)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Amsterhammer on March 01, 2012, 11:23
Yesterday, on Feb. 29, the two faces of the cycle of life smacked me in the teeth. One friend became a grandfather, another lost his adult son.

The one who lost his son is one of those rare human beings whom you never forget, because he's so special, such a 'mensch'. I was in tears when I heard his news yesterday, and couldn't get to sleep till after 4 am. Re-reading the forum topic with condolences posted by his (and my) friends just now has thrown me straight back into last night's sadness.

To honor him, and his son's memory, my signature now shows the words with which he ends everything he writes.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ram on March 01, 2012, 11:34
That's sh*t. Unfortunate loss. Thoughts are with the family.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on March 01, 2012, 22:40
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Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Amsterhammer on March 02, 2012, 12:40
That's sh*t. Unfortunate loss. Thoughts are with the family.

Thank you, Ram.

This explains why so many friends of this family have been so shocked and distressed since we heard the news, and why I haven't been posting.....

http://www.desertdispatch.com/news/death-12510-fell-identifed.html (http://www.desertdispatch.com/news/death-12510-fell-identifed.html)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Zam on March 05, 2012, 15:11
Monumental fick up by someone/something made me lose some money today.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on March 06, 2012, 02:52
Very sorry for your sadness and your friend's loss Amsterhammer.  :(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Amsterhammer on March 06, 2012, 15:25
Very sorry for your sadness and your friend's loss Amsterhammer.  :(

Thank you mew, much appreciated. Life goes on.......
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on March 11, 2012, 13:59
Annoying ISP's cutting into Cycling time. (http://forums.superherohype.com/images/smilies/blowup.gif)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Zam on March 11, 2012, 16:19
Cancer, my best female friend is fighting for her life. flip cancer.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on April 12, 2012, 00:09
Boy Band.
Sydney.
Media Noise.
Media Silence.
The distorted reality of a swarm of over privileged kids.

tired.
disappointed.
Frustrated.
bye bye Kony, Hello one direction
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ram on April 12, 2012, 04:15
Now that's a rant, so good that I didn't understand a word of it.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on April 12, 2012, 04:36
Now that's a rant, so good that I didn't understand a word of it.

may have made more sense is you were around when i started rant on shoutbox and was gently pushed in the direction of this thread

general anger and not being able to find real news because if you try to find any news about sydney today the only thing the world seems to be interested in is a crappy boy band that is here.

then made mistake of reading some of the stuff being written and depressed me very quickly.

looking at the anger directed at people making a harmless joke about the band.

concern about the similarities in volume and media between a boy band and Joseph Kony. as a PR rep now do you start your day thinking today i am going to make my band as big as a serial child killing psychopath
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ram on April 12, 2012, 04:45
read through the archives, more words and makes a bit more sense there.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Auscyclefan on April 12, 2012, 08:50
Boy Band.
Sydney.
Media Noise.
Media Silence.
The distorted reality of a swarm of over privileged kids.

tired.
disappointed.
Frustrated.
bye bye Kony, Hello one direction

I understand, teenagers move onto and off trends very quickly. The amount of kids getting involved in Kony campaign made me laugh considering they they feel they are making an impact by retweeting a message about it to people and/or buying one of those bands that 'raises awareness'. ::)

may have made more sense is you were around when i started rant on shoutbox and was gently pushed in the direction of this thread

general anger and not being able to find real news because if you try to find any news about sydney today the only thing the world seems to be interested in is a crappy boy band that is here.

then made mistake of reading some of the stuff being written and depressed me very quickly.

looking at the anger directed at people making a harmless joke about the band.

concern about the similarities in volume and media between a boy band and Joseph Kony. as a PR rep now do you start your day thinking today i am going to make my band as big as a serial child killing psychopath


I feel you are being a bit unreasonable and naive. The story that has an affect on a wide range of people especially when it is close to home will always get more attention than someone who is a serial killer, killing kids nobody knows or will care about after the Kony fad has passed. The second story is obviously more shocking and important but the news doesn't work that way. Your last line was rather ridiculous so I hope you were being sarcastic.

News stories which affect a larger number of people will always gain more attention than an incident that affects less people but is more serious/important. That's the way it is and in a way is still fair.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Anthony Moan on May 16, 2012, 20:42
Just payed bills, and I am angry. It always astonish me how bigger and bigger they become, flip just flip.
I say stop paying our flipping bills!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on May 16, 2012, 22:00
hehehehe my head hurts :D :D :D :(

I had no idea I had posted this.. lol

:grumble
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on May 17, 2012, 19:01
Cleaned the ventilators in the toilet earlier today, the purest form of venting around.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Anthony Moan on May 17, 2012, 21:20
Cleaned the ventilators in the toilet earlier today, the purest form of venting around.
So when the sh*t hits the fan you really experienced :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on May 18, 2012, 04:47
Exactly Tony O0 Turn the fan the other way, the sh*t will fly outside.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Auscyclefan on May 18, 2012, 13:43
Just read this: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/academic-conference-seeks-to-normalize-pedophilia (http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/academic-conference-seeks-to-normalize-pedophilia)

Disgusting!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Zam on May 18, 2012, 13:56
I wish frank schleck, andy schleck and contador would retire from cycling.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on May 21, 2012, 04:14
I wish frank schleck, andy schleck and contador would retire from cycling.

I wish RSNT would sort their dirty laundry out and get on with racing....

AND while I am venting for god's sake PHILIPPE would you please get on a winning streak and FABIAN where are you?? :fp
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on May 21, 2012, 06:57
Just read this: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/academic-conference-seeks-to-normalize-pedophilia (http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/academic-conference-seeks-to-normalize-pedophilia)

Disgusting!!!!! >:(

Maybe, but what do they mean by 'normalise' and what does the conference have to say for itself? You have to look beyond a few lines of reporting before deciding how you will react, otherwise the press will jerk you along on a string.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on May 21, 2012, 07:01
Got into a huge fight with my dad so now he wants me to leave the house at 1 September 2012 because I am "leeching" him, "doing nothing useful with my life", "dont deserve being in this house".. ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on May 21, 2012, 07:11
Maybe, but what do they mean by 'normalise' and what does the conference have to say for itself? You have to look beyond a few lines of reporting before deciding how you will react, otherwise the press will jerk you along on a string.

always going to be a difficult topic but if you read the groups website then it explains what they are trying ton do in much better terms

basically it seems their aim is to ensure that people who are attracted to minors (not necessarily child molesters) can get correct, thought out psychiatric help and treatment that will prevent them from acting on their attraction and allow them to live normal lives.

they are in no way saying that people should be allowed to molest children
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on May 21, 2012, 07:15
Got into a huge fight with my dad so now he wants me to leave the house at 1 September 2012 because I am "leeching" him, "doing nothing useful with my life", "dont deserve being in this house".. ??? ??? ??? ???

nice  :(, surely there must have been something building up to it.

are you a student still?
has he been nagging you to get a job?
or did he just get a big bill.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on May 21, 2012, 07:24
Still studying and he wants to me to get a job other than the paper round I am currently delivering. Didnt apply yet cause I was busy for uni most of the time yesterday. So when I was still working on that at 1 am this night he woke up and got completely mad at me.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on May 21, 2012, 07:27
Still studying and he wants to me to get a job other than the paper round I am currently delivering. Didnt apply yet cause I was busy for uni most of the time yesterday. So when I was still working on that at 1 am this night he woke up and got completely mad at me.

he will calm down. if you are genuinely trying to find a job and are going to put the effort i am sure you can get him to change his mind

we all say things we do not mean when we are angry. especially when it comes to family

our kids continually drive us crazy. starts when they will not sleep when new borns and continues until they will not listen to your advice about their own kids
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on May 21, 2012, 07:39
He will calm down Havy.  All you can do is concentrate on your studies, and do the best you can do. 

Perhaps when you have both calmed down a bit, you can sit down and have an actual conversation (ie not yelling or getting angry) about exactly what he expects and what is realistic for you.

Its hard.   :hug
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on May 21, 2012, 08:55
Nice,

Havetts

I wold take a step away come back with positive ways of sorting this out

-  getting a job over summer might be good start

- Explaining to your Dad that being on here is your way of switching off after study

- ask how you can contribute  to the house , cooking cleaning yard work it does not always have to be rent

sometime we say stuff in the heat of the moment that comes out wrong, but that does not mean that it can not be positive in the future. work yor way through this and it may mean a closer bond with your old man Havy

Remember also that each generation has different ways of doing stuff, so yo Dad may see cycling forums as a waste of time but if yo were out kicking a football as ok - it is important for you to explain that these places are positive for you.

Good luck
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on May 21, 2012, 10:25
Havy, first of all: don't panic. Lots of people have been through this same thing already.

Me included, and in my case it even came to blows because in my family among the many unwritten, hypocritical rules was one which dictated that you did not share your feelings. So it all came out in the most unfortunate way. And I left and I never went back. ;D Initially, I thought it was about proving a point but in the end it was about learning to be myself.

That said, you obviously have a good family because you're still there today, so things will cool down. I'm guessing your Dad didn't go to university, so he probably doesn't understand how it works. A big brain effort may to untrained eyes look like you're just sitting around.

Your Dad may also be under some kind of pressure of his own at the moment and he almost certainly feels bad about what's happened now. Only, being first a man of a certain age and second a Dad, he will probably be dealing with this alone and inside his head. And being inside his head, as I'm sure you'll agree, is probably a pretty uncool place to be even when things are fine.  ;D I still have very bad relationships with my parents. If yours are normally OK, really try hard to look after them: it's worth it.

If you have friends who are interested in making the jump, getting a shared house is a life-changing experience. Otherwise, remember that you're studying business so it would be really good for you to get some valid business experience in a small, commercial-related job. You have nothing to prove to your Dad, just to yourself, and that may indeed be that you have to pay some of your own way in the future. So you can turn this whole thing into a big positive. ;)

I did a heavy-study law degree. I did summers working with lawyers, the police and the public prosecution service for zero pay. But I worked the whole way through it - summers and term time just the same - as a cocktail barman, a DJ, a sardonic hotel receptionist (I once told a famous mountaineer that, although the hotel had no elevator, his room on the third floor was "probably not a big climb for one such as yourself") and a fibreoptic cable installer amongst other things.

Not really legal experience - and it was complete exploitation - but on the plus side it paid enough to get by and I have some great stories with which to bore people now. Especially about the cocktail bar scene.  ;D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on May 21, 2012, 10:30
I did not work during term time at uni but did work all of my holidays

Supermarkets, fruit picking, farms and even at a nuclear power station as a tour guide
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on May 21, 2012, 10:33
Venting thread to implode into old-timer student job reminiscences in 3...2...1...

Cool jobs, DinZ. The nuclear one represents massive kudos to you though.  :win
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on May 21, 2012, 10:34
I worked through mine

sold shoes and sport equipment, worked in a bar paid rent and food and not much over for a long time - always found work made study easier some how.

But I have know to over do the work thing sometimes.

Havy make sure you talk to your old man though soonish ( as soon as the heat has gone down a bit) if you bring up - I think we should have a chat dad it will already help as your dad will think - he really has grown up
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on May 21, 2012, 10:47
I worked through mine

sold shoes and sport equipment, worked in a bar paid rent and food and not much over for a long time - always found work made study easier some how.

But I have know to over do the work thing sometimes.

Havy make sure you talk to your old man though soonish ( as soon as the heat has gone down a bit) if you bring up - I think we should have a chat dad it will already help as your dad will think - he really has grown up

Gold. Absolute gold. That is wisdom right there. I totally forgot about that until reading it here.  :tu
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Anthony Moan on May 21, 2012, 21:42
Nah, Havy Havetts finish uni first and get those papers delivered, join the paratroopers second. You can not be fired coz there is always job to be done ;D
in the army now - status quo (live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6J4kFC7hrg#)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Sizzle on May 22, 2012, 02:19
Oh Havy :hug

Such comments would come as a devastating and painful blow. Gosh, you have had some excellent advice here, though.  Velorooms life wisdom in action!

FWIW, I also worked throughout my degree. I was a 'mature age' student who had to pay the bills, keep a roof over my head and food in the belly. I was a secretary initially, and then later worked both in a video store and shelving books at the university library. Loved having the mix of things to do. Loved having the shelving and video store jobs as both required low level physical activity, which was such a pleasant change to all the sitting required by study.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on May 22, 2012, 16:48
sat through the whole of todays Giro stage 16 only to miss the last section of the climb for work -  :'(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on May 22, 2012, 23:54
Wow Havey.
From what I can tell you are one cool human and a nice fellow.  Larri really said some great stuff that echoes what I was thinking....parents have weird pressures that come out in awkward ways sometimes....like yelling at your kids.  I'm sure he is sad and embarrassed that he did that.  :-[

Great advice from all here ....
 Hope you are feeling a bit better about it all now.   :-*

Please don't feel guilty or mad at yourself.
good luck  :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Martin318is on May 23, 2012, 00:28
sat through the whole of todays Giro stage 16 only to miss the last section of the climb for work -  :'(

Its okay - nothing happened
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: pedaling squares on May 23, 2012, 18:21
Someone sent me a subscription to Bicycling magazine.  >:(
That's a pretty good one, actually. Kind of like when I sent a 'bill me later' subscription to some really awful porn mag addressed to my arsehole boss at the worksite.
Which one of you did this? Martin, you're suspect #1.

Havetts, we've all been there brother. JSG sure gave some good advice, there are plenty of ways to take the pressure off Dad in the house that will show him what an asset you can be while allowing you to focus on your studies.

Old summer jobs... I worked for a farmer once who loved sending me into the fields with a scythe and turning on the old electric fence that was hidden by the grass I was cutting. Shocking. He also liked to spook the cows if I was stupid enough to stand behind them on the concrete milking alley. A real sh*t storm ensued. I got him back though...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on June 04, 2012, 05:12
Having to miss my sons first performance with Junior band at school because someone else fliped something up at work then went home sick

was going to surprise him by turning up as did not think i could make it originally and just when i was thinking how excited he would be by me turning up unexpectedly this happens. now i feel miserable
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Martin318is on June 04, 2012, 05:46
That sort of thing always sucks.  Its the one good thing about maintaining the element of surprise when it comes to kids though.  At least he had no idea that you were likely to be there so wasnt even looking.  How much worse would it be to say you would be there and then not make it....

Its not exactly a positive but its pulling a bit of a neutral out of a potential major negative... I guess.   :-[
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on June 04, 2012, 05:47
Yeah, and the wife just sent me a video of the performance
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on June 09, 2012, 06:24
My Vent for today .... Medicare!!!!

In Aus, we have a pharmaceutical benefits system, where the government pays for expensive drugs.   Which is fantastic. I am grateful for it, I truly am.

BUT ... they are SUCH a pain in the ass to get scripts from     >:(

Because my drugs are really expensive, I have to send the results of my blood tests and stuff through to medicare every 3 months, to prove that I am actually taking them (not selling them  ;D) and that I am responding to them.  Once they get the results from my specialist, they will then send me a new script for the next 3 months.

Which is all fine.   I understand the fact that they need to do this.

BUT ... in trying to go overseas, I will run out of drugs towards the end of my trip.  Normally the new script only arrives about 2-3 weeks before I need it, so they wont usually send it out until after I go ...

So I am trying (without success at this stage) to explain that they need to approve my new script early, so that I can fill it before I go.

Oh - and I am only allowed to fill one script every 21 days, so getting enough together to have enough for 7 weeks away is difficult too   :(

I will get it sorted, its just incredibly annoying and frustrating !!!!

 >:(   >:(   >:(   >:(   >:(   >:(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on June 09, 2012, 06:54
Dentist visit yesterday - been having a bit of pain. Saw a different one who had an unnerving sense of humour.

"Good thing you came," he says. "You have shattered a tooth and it has decayed very deeply. Did you eat something quite brittle say about six months ago?"

Like a fool I actually try to cast my mind back. When I draw a blank, I try to tell him so. "Mwah mwah mwah," I begin to say before remembering that I have an air tube, a dental tool and a dentist's fingers in my wide-open mouth.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: krabkakes on June 09, 2012, 14:29
I shouldn't lift 5 gallon water bottles. I lifted one yesterday. I shouldn't have :'(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on June 12, 2012, 13:47
Round 2 at the dentist. Seems I avoided a root canal by the tiniest of margins. However, contact with another tooth means that decay has damaged the other one too. So one more visit to go. €210 so far... ???
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: pedaling squares on June 22, 2012, 14:54
I'm set to do one of those Tough Mudder races tomorrow and a knee injury that has kept me from doing any training (can't run, bike, or do much with weights) isn't getting any better. This is supposed to be a fun cold, wet, and muddy run but the knee could take all the fun out of it. Injuries suck. Here's to ibuprofen.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on June 22, 2012, 14:58
Be sure not to fail the dope test :D

sh*t form though.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: pedaling squares on June 25, 2012, 04:35
Turns out I had no reason to vent. The knee hurt but nothing more than that came of it so I could continue. And the course was fun, even sliding down a snow hill into a frozen lake. So now I'm venting about my inability to find my testicles. Last seen heading up somewhere towards my armpits...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on June 25, 2012, 05:17
Just realised that the av pic is a stanley cup photograph/image. THought it was a random cartoon bird, unfortunately not the Jessica Rabbit kind but the tweety bird kind, for so long.

Testicle in the armpits are surely much safer than where they usually are. That's a positive. Evolution screwing us males up.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on June 25, 2012, 05:31
I was confused, I thought it was the Stanley Cup and an Italia shirt. I was right :D

http://www.artizans.com/image/KRI1859/ryder-hesjedals-victory-is-unlikely-as-italy-winning-stanley-cup-color/ (http://www.artizans.com/image/KRI1859/ryder-hesjedals-victory-is-unlikely-as-italy-winning-stanley-cup-color/)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on June 25, 2012, 06:05
Take it out of here, it's the venting section, not the gloating section  ;)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on June 25, 2012, 06:38
Oh sorry. Why can't I have ram's avatar :>:( Why can't I have the girl in Ram's avatar? :>:( What's wrong with my freezer anyway? >:( (that better?)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on June 25, 2012, 08:52
Tis an improvement.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on July 11, 2012, 11:32
heard a heart breaking story this weekend which made me sad at life

was staying with my friends family in Melbourne and when looking at photos saw there was a second sister who i had not met and asked about her. the mum explained that she had died for a heart defect years ago. to make it worst she said that when her daughter was sick they were really poor immigrants and could not afford surgery to fix it. then they were referred to a doctor who would do the surgery for free. it was Victor Chang and she was due to have the surgery the week after he was murdered and she died 2 weeks later.

life can be so sh*tty sometimes

for those not in Aus Victor Chang was a pioneering heart surgeon who was murdered as part of a blackmail attempt against him.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on February 05, 2013, 13:23
RIP Aunty.

And to miss out on being pall bearer when both my dad and brother were
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on February 05, 2013, 13:26
RIP Aunty.

And to miss out on being pall bearer when both my dad and brother were

feel for you mate

remember the good times when you can
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on February 05, 2013, 13:44
Cheers JSG.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on February 05, 2013, 13:57
:hug

so sorry for your loss ram
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on February 05, 2013, 14:03
Cheers AG, you've been great help today.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on February 05, 2013, 15:47
Sorry for that, ram.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on February 05, 2013, 16:11
Thanks Fus
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: FreeWheelin on March 09, 2013, 04:44
I want to vent about the whole elitist thing about 'real' cycling fans hate the Tour.  Like 'real' basket ball fans know that Jordan was overrated.  I get that it is not everyone's fav race, and there are lots of fantastic races that many people know about... but it is not just ignorant fans that rate it so highly... it is most of the pro peloton too.       

Can someone tell me is this anti/pro Tour thing something that tends to be affected by nationality?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 09, 2013, 05:19
yeah I dont know FW.

I am a classics kind of girl - but I do love the Tour.  It just has that special magic.  (It does come decidedly after all of the monuments, the worlds and the Giro though :D )

I do think people focus on the Tour because of its media coverage as well - certainly its what got me watching cycling ... its only once I started that I explored more and discovered the greater treasures.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 09, 2013, 07:37
I am a classics kind of girl - but I do love the Tour.  It just has that special magic.  (It does come decidedly after all of the monuments, the worlds and the Giro though :D )
Replace "girl" with "guy", and this answer is valid for me as well. ;)
I feel exactly the same.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Capt_Cavman on March 09, 2013, 09:32
Vive le Tour!

Yeah I agree, people who go on about how second rate the Tour is, are just striking a rather ineffectual pose. Yes the Giro is usually a more difficult parcours but it has just a fraction of the prestige of the Tour and usually the field reflects this.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Echoes on March 09, 2013, 10:10
Talking about Bore in June is normal. Talking about Bore from August till May, is ludicrous and one of the degrading effects of mass media. The classic season is approaching and all you're interested in is how the new Yellow Jersey looks like. Come on !!!!

Tour of France obsessed people should realize that every year a dozen of pro races disappear due to financial reasons, while ASO is at an all-time high and these so-called cycling fans are certainly partly responsible for it.

And than you'd think I'm a high hat but come on, I can talk with many friends who might be football fans first and foremost, about Het Nieuwsblad, about Paris-Nice, about Paris-Brussels, etc. It's just the way it is ...

Ever since I'm a kid of 7/8, I've always watched live coverage of any kind of races, whether they be the classics, semi-classics, one week stage races, Worlds, even some cyclocross + Bore (though I've stopped watching it since 2006) and always have heard through magazines and TV news about Giro, Vuelta, Ruta del Sol, Catalan Week, etc. And guess what, I was not an avid cycling fan back then, it was just like any other sports, but I did watch those races ... Hence Bore obsession is beyond comprehension for me.

Edit: also before registering on CN, I visited a French forum called Velo-Club.net. I left it in 2009 because CN was much less Bore obsessed at that time (and because I needed English practice). Today, CN is Bore-obsessed and VCN much less. The Times They-re a-changing ...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 09, 2013, 11:13
I for one am burned out on the Tour by the end of the first week most years.  Maybe it's all the pre race hype or the predicability after following it for 20+ yrs.  Also, it's a good month to get outside and ride yourself or go on vacation.  For someone who follows the sport daily the season has lost a lot of it's initial excitement by July.  The Northern Classics get to that buzz but even that might wane as races start in early Jan. now.  You no longer get that Christmas in July feeling that a newer or part time fan enjoys.  We can enjoy a GC battle in Tirreno in a few hrs.  Without, having to wait for July.

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Ever since I'm a kid of 7/8, I've always watched live coverage of any kind of races, whether they be the classics, semi-classics, one week stage races, Worlds, even some cyclocross + Bore (though I've stopped watching it since 2006) and always have heard through magazines and TV news about Giro, Vuelta, Ruta del Sol, Catalan Week, etc.

US fans are accustom to minimum TV coverage (it has improved a lot over the yrs).  A race that Velonews would ignore and Cyclingnews would provide a paragraph w/ one photo and a top 10, we can now view online so it's somewhat of a Renaissance.  Hearing someone other then Phil Ligget n Paul Sherman is earth shattering too.

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Edit: also before registering on CN, I visited a French forum called Velo-Club.net. I left it in 2009 because CN was much less Bore obsessed at that time (and because I needed English practice). Today, CN is Bore-obsessed and VCN much less. The Times They-re a-changing ...
Let's keep Velorooms from becoming Bore obsessed too.  :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 09, 2013, 11:16
The thing is echoes that in many English speaking countries we simply have not had the coverage of anything other than the tour.

Until about 3 years ago we only got the tour ... Highlights of other things and a weekly 1 hr highlights package of anything else

 Which does heavily influence what races people are interested in

Not only that but in the last 2 years, the winner of the tour has been Evans and wiggins - something which will no doubt impact on its popularity on English speaking web sites.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Slow Rider on March 09, 2013, 11:29
Talking about Bore in June is normal. Talking about Bore from August till May, is ludicrous and one of the degrading effects of mass media. The classic season is approaching and all you're interested in is how the new Yellow Jersey looks like. Come on !!!!
So people discuss what the yellow jersey looks like in the middle of the classics season. If a change in the Tour of Flanders parcours was announced in the middle of July, it would be discussed as well. In July. Ridiculous? Oh, and have you seen the 2013 Giro thread? 145 replies over the off-season, more than the Tour. What Tour obsession? ;)

Being interested in the Tour doesn't exclude being interested in other races. At the same time we're discussing the yellow jersey, we compile lists of riders competing for the Giro, discuss the classics, watch P-N and T-A, and even look ahead to the worlds which are even further away than the Tour. To be honest, I think you're just a bit over-sensitive about the Tour. It is, of course, fine not to care for it and not to watch it. But I do like the Tour, especially because it is so big and overblown. Every fan knows it is not even close to the best or most exciting race of the year, but it's still a great event.

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Tour of France obsessed people should realize that every year a dozen of pro races disappear due to financial reasons, while ASO is at an all-time high and these so-called cycling fans are certainly partly responsible for it.
Most fans are just that: casual fans. They watch the biggest event simply because it is the biggest event. Not everyone cares enough for cycling to watch everything, for the large public the Tour is just miles above anything else. Which is still a relatively good thing since it means cycling gets attention every year, unlike a lot of other sports which are only watched by the big public around the Olympics. Does that mean some smaller races will disappear? Sure, it might, and that's a shame. But blaming casual cycling fans who only watch the sports biggest event doesn't make sense imo. Would you blame a Manchester United fan who only watches Champions League and short recaps of league games if some fourth league football team gets into financial trouble?

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And than you'd think I'm a high hat but come on, I can talk with many friends who might be football fans first and foremost, about Het Nieuwsblad, about Paris-Nice, about Paris-Brussels, etc. It's just the way it is ...

Ever since I'm a kid of 7/8, I've always watched live coverage of any kind of races, whether they be the classics, semi-classics, one week stage races, Worlds, even some cyclocross + Bore (though I've stopped watching it since 2006) and always have heard through magazines and TV news about Giro, Vuelta, Ruta del Sol, Catalan Week, etc. And guess what, I was not an avid cycling fan back then, it was just like any other sports, but I did watch those races ... Hence Bore obsession is beyond comprehension for me.

Edit: also before registering on CN, I visited a French forum called Velo-Club.net. I left it in 2009 because CN was much less Bore obsessed at that time (and because I needed English practice). Today, CN is Bore-obsessed and VCN much less. The Times They-re a-changing ...
OK, don't really see what your point is here to be honest. Not everyone is enough of a cycling fan to want to watch all races. Not everyone lives in Belgium, where cycling coverage is the best in the world. And not everyone has the time to watch everything.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Capt_Cavman on March 09, 2013, 11:34
The Tour de France is the most important event in the calendar for the biggest teams (except OPQS maybe) and the biggest riders. Whether riders are planning to mount a challenge in July dictates the rest of their season and as such dictates what other riders can challenge for. Yes we all follow and often prefer other races, Classics and stage races, but that doesn't mean you have to be totally blinkered about how overwhelmingly important the Tour is.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: search on March 09, 2013, 11:43
Talking about Bore in June is normal. Talking about Bore from August till May, is ludicrous and one of the degrading effects of mass media. The classic season is approaching and all you're interested in is how the new Yellow Jersey looks like. Come on !!!!

sorry, but you don't have a point there at all, there are various topics to talk about at this point of the season, and that's what we do - the Tour de France is one of them, of course, it's still the "biggest" race in the world.

Is it me or this [Tour de France 2013] thread has had 102 replies across the winter season?  :rolleye

Really Velorooms cannot be a good alternative to CN ...

...yeah, and 145 replies to the Giro d'Italia thread, several replies for every other race, so it's not like this is a major topic at the moment. If you are not interested in the Tour at all it's no problem, but that's not what you can expect from everyone else of course. You are judging cycling fans by their interest in the Tour de France, I can't give you any repect for that, on the contrary, that's a very poor and bitter statement.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Flo on March 09, 2013, 12:07
I hope Echoes realizes that with constantly whining about people's obsession with "Bore the France" he actually draws more attention to that race
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 09, 2013, 12:07
Huh, we used to have no coverage and now Germany has none.  STARS drive the Tours popularity along Nationality lines.  Yes, Australia n England just won their first Tours.  If Germany had a guy for the overall it would be back on Tv there. 

I remember when got back into bike racing in the 2003.  I was informed at my first race that the field was full 120 riders and had been for weeks.  I was accustom to 20-40 riders and day of registration!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on March 09, 2013, 13:27
Sick of having nice weather all week and then the only two crap days are Sat and Sun. Today was foul, so I skipped it in favour of indoor activities. I'll go out tomorrow no matter what, but this winter should be over already. Every year the European winter seems to go on longer than the last one.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: sublimit on March 09, 2013, 13:55
I hope Echoes realizes that with constantly whining about people's obsession with "Bore the France" he actually draws more attention to that race

Bore De France sounds like the tunnel under the English channel but without the fires and rubbish food.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: sublimit on March 09, 2013, 14:02
Is it too obvious to slag the Eurosport weekend cycling coverage?  flipping inundated with Winter sports all of a sudden and no live Tirreno.   
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 09, 2013, 14:13
so crappy.

queen stage of TA and no eurosport!!    :hb
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on March 09, 2013, 18:02
so crappy.

queen stage of TA and no eurosport!!    :hb

i missed it too  :(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on March 09, 2013, 19:10
My guess is it will be available on You tube before dinner time.

Just in time for when I get south, fire up the AppleTV and stream it to the big screen!!

This fellow has been getting lots of TA posted up ..

http://www.youtube.com/user/tommanning91 (http://www.youtube.com/user/tommanning91)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: jobiwan on March 09, 2013, 19:43
We can vent about ANYTHING? Well...

I don't like Sky and I don't like the fact that Dombrowski signed with them.

I also don't like the fact that Arsenal are no good at SOCCAH anymore.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on March 09, 2013, 19:48
i'm out of beer and the shops are closed.. :( :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on March 09, 2013, 19:51
i'm out of beer and the shops are closed.. :( :D

Well, who is responsible for that (obviously pee poor) planning faux-pas??
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on March 09, 2013, 19:54
i'm out of beer and the shops are closed.. :( :D

That's just stupid you should never be out of alcohol :fp.

But the real solution is to either bother one of your neighbours our go out drinking
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on March 09, 2013, 20:04
My dad took the remaining beer to a party hosted by his colleges without letting me know before. So the pooooor me is now stuck with Rum + Cola. But I just wanted a beer. :(

#FIRSTWORLDPROBLEMS
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on March 09, 2013, 20:07
My dad took the remaining beer to a party hosted by his colleges without letting me know before. So the pooooor me is now stuck with Rum + Cola. But I just wanted a beer. :(

#FIRSTWORLDPROBLEMS

Damn that is a first world problem if I ever heard one being sad because you don't have sh*tty beer, but have nice liquor  :lol
Title: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on March 09, 2013, 20:41
Damn that is a first world problem if I ever heard one being sad because you don't have sh*tty beer, but have nice liquor  :lol

To be fair, he never said he had nice liquor.  Just that he had liquor.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on March 09, 2013, 20:50
To be fair, he never said he had nice liquor.  Just that he had liquor.

Well this rum is amazing. So I guess that counts as nice liquor ;)!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on March 09, 2013, 20:55
To be fair, he never said he had nice liquor.  Just that he had liquor.

Almsot any liquor is better than beer :P

@ havey why would you ruin it with coke then?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 10, 2013, 01:56
got a flat tyre and had to learn how to change it myself   :rolleye
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on March 10, 2013, 12:49
got a flat tyre and had to learn how to change it myself   :rolleye

Well done, AG! It gets easier after the first time!

Did you have the requisite tyre levers or was it a case of the old bent spoons?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 10, 2013, 13:12
:fp

first I had to youtube how to change it .... then go buy a pump and some tyre levers and a new tube ...

THEN I learned how to do it  :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on March 10, 2013, 13:28
:fp

first I had to youtube how to change it .... then go buy a pump and some tyre levers and a new tube ...

THEN I learned how to do it  :D

Well done anyway! It's a pain in the botticelli when you flat whilst on a ride, especially if it's cold and rainy. Hasn't happened to me in years though, touch wood. I imagine it's a whole lot less painful in an Australian summer. Good on you though, AG, you've undergone a bit of a rite of passage there!  :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: sublimit on March 10, 2013, 14:55
Well done, AG! It gets easier after the first time!

Did you have the requisite tyre levers or was it a case of the old bent spoons?

The bike turned upside down and resting on bars and saddle is the best for changing the wheel,  heavy duty spoons as levers and fairy liquid for lubrication. 

:cheesy

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on March 10, 2013, 15:46
The bike turned upside down and resting on bars and saddle is the best for changing the wheel,  heavy duty spoons as levers and fairy liquid for lubrication. 

:cheesy

And no quick releases on the skewers because that's cheating.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: sublimit on March 11, 2013, 12:12
And no quick releases on the skewers because that's cheating.

Nut and bolt fastening skewers are the best for sure, I wouldn't ride a racing tricycle with those newfangled quick release devices.       

 
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on March 11, 2013, 13:07
every year I try and get 1 otside ride in before my bday

Minus 20 this morning a only a few days to go not got to happen

 :'(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on March 11, 2013, 15:41
every year I try and get 1 otside ride in before my bday

Minus 20 this morning a only a few days to go not got to happen

 :'(

I have long had the policy that I have to have a ride outside on New Year's Day.  There are some years where that ride is MUCH shorter than other years.

Some years I have gone around the block and said " I rode outside"

You can get it done, just adjust your parameters. 

And where on earth is it -20 in March??

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on March 11, 2013, 15:44
IT WAS GETTING SO BLOODY CLOSE TO 'SKIRTDAY' IN THE NETHERLANDS AND NOW ITS BLOODY SNOWING AGAIN, WHY GOD WHY!?

:(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on March 11, 2013, 15:49
I have long had the policy that I have to have a ride outside on New Year's Day.  There are some years where that ride is MUCH shorter than other years.

Some years I have gone around the block and said " I rode outside"

You can get it done, just adjust your parameters. 

And where on earth is it -20 in March??

Sweden , record cold

I live in the country on a hill, If I go out best I preorder an ambulance  :D

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Echoes on March 11, 2013, 18:10
The thing is echoes that in many English speaking countries we simply have not had the coverage of anything other than the tour.

Why should TV be the only way to get interest in something. Before TV existed, people were already interested in cycling, through newspapers, radio, Cinema news or visiting races and they were equally as passionate, if not more. A friend of mine still listen to live coverage on the radio, in the 21st century. I find it very nice.

TV is a mass-media and hence favours rich race organizations that get richer and richer. In the 50's small races could gather crowds of 50,000 people. I have pictures in books. It's very impressive. Hence what I said, we are all - tv viewers - accomplices (including myself). Visiting races is the way to go.

But now, we have the Internet with live streams for many races and articles, profiles, start lists, etc. for almost any races. There's no excuse for Tour obsession.


Not only that but in the last 2 years, the winner of the tour has been Evans and wiggins - something which will no doubt impact on its popularity on English speaking web sites.

Evans is a former World Champion and the last two Milan-Sanremo wins are Aussie !


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If a change in the Tour of Flanders parcours was announced in the middle of July, it would be discussed as well. In July. Ridiculous?

Really? Well if you do that, you're my hero !  :D

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To be honest, I think you're just a bit over-sensitive about the Tour.

I admit it. But sometimes, there's overdose. Too much is too much. There are much better things to do in winter than ... waiting for the Tour of France. Really, I can't understand that.

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Not everyone is enough of a cycling fan to want to watch all races. Not everyone lives in Belgium, where cycling coverage is the best in the world. And not everyone has the time to watch everything. 

I'm from the French-speaking part. Most races covered by RTBF when I was a kid also were by France TV or French Eurosport. Not everyone has the time to watch everything? That's true. I usually don't have time to watch cycling in July. However on Sundays of April, I'm always free.

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Yes we all follow and often prefer other races, Classics and stage races, but that doesn't mean you have to be totally blinkered about how overwhelmingly important the Tour is.


Judging by their historical prestige, I can consider the classics overwhelmingly important ...

 
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Flo on March 11, 2013, 18:37
My post deleted from the venting thread.... :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on March 11, 2013, 18:47
My post deleted from the venting thread.... :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry

It was removed as its not really within the forum rules to call another forum member names.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Flo on March 11, 2013, 18:50
It was removed as its not really within the forum rules to call another forum member names.

Ah right she's a forum member :fp not like she's ever on here :rolleye Planning to create a new twitter account just to call her names.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on March 11, 2013, 18:51
stop now please.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 12, 2013, 00:55
Why should TV be the only way to get interest in something. Before TV existed, people were already interested in cycling, through newspapers, radio, Cinema news or visiting races and they were equally as passionate, if not more. A friend of mine still listen to live coverage on the radio, in the 21st century. I find it very nice.

TV is a mass-media and hence favours rich race organizations that get richer and richer. In the 50's small races could gather crowds of 50,000 people. I have pictures in books. It's very impressive. Hence what I said, we are all - tv viewers - accomplices (including myself). Visiting races is the way to go.

But now, we have the Internet with live streams for many races and articles, profiles, start lists, etc. for almost any races. There's no excuse for Tour obsession.

:snip

Evans is a former World Champion and the last two Milan-Sanremo wins are Aussie !


yes - our access has grown exponentially over the last few years - and support for cycling all over is growing in Australia as a result.  But that is relatively new.

Until a few years ago, we didnt have radio or newspaper coverage, or tv.  Nothing.  Cycling may as well not have existed as a sport outside the olympics - and even that focussed on track.

As for going to a race ... you are talking to people on an english speaking website here.  Predominately people in US, UK and Aus (though we have some lucky ones in countries where they do actually race - but not that many)    Most of us dont get to go to races where they have great quality athletes ...

support for the classics, and for other races outside the Tour is building. 

But you have to be realistic - that doesnt mean that people will not talk about the Tour.  Its seen as the grandfinal, the epitomy of the season - and people will refer to that and look forward to it ...  especially when the riders themselves see it as all-important.


Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Slow Rider on March 12, 2013, 08:46
Really? Well if you do that, you're my hero !  :D

I admit it. But sometimes, there's overdose. Too much is too much. There are much better things to do in winter than ... waiting for the Tour of France. Really, I can't understand that.
If there is big news regarding the classics, it will be discussed on a forum like this, no matter how far away the start of those classics actually is.

I can only speak for this forum, since I barely read CN, but I don't see the Tour obsession. Sure, it is the biggest race in the sport (sorry, bigger than the classics - though definitely not more fun) so it's going to be discussed. However, as mentioned, there was more discussion on the Giro than on the Tour during the off-season, and there have been multiple topics on the classics and other races as well.

But most importantly, there is little to no Tour-talk in other topics not related to the Tour. That means that if you want to ignore the 'Tour obsession', all you have to ignore is those topics, while you can be nice and active in all other topics.

Because ironically, your posts have caused a long discussion about the Tour in this otherwise unrelated thread, and most of your recent posts on this forum are about the Tour. All that while the rest of us have been enjoying discussions on Tirreno, Milano-Sanremo, doping, and Richie Porte's future to name some things. Now who's obsessed? :P
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on March 12, 2013, 08:48
Vive le Tour















 :lol
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Echoes on March 12, 2013, 18:09
Until a few years ago, we didnt have radio or newspaper coverage, or tv.  Nothing.  Cycling may as well not have existed as a sport outside the olympics - and even that focussed on track.

Track is part of cycling and you have a long history of track racing in Oz. When I register on CN, the track section was very active.

And did you know that Hincapie got to cycling watching CBS report on Paris-Roubaix (OK it's still ASO but an exciting race):    1985 Paris Roubaix - Arenberg Forest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3-g7uWQ4Y#) . So how can interest so suddenly get lost?

As for going to a race ... you are talking to people on an english speaking website here.  Predominately people in US, UK and Aus (though we have some lucky ones in countries where they do actually race - but not that many)    Most of us dont get to go to races where they have great quality athletes ...

But why not? I don't know if there are races around where you live but there are enough road races in Oz, aren't there?

Besides, I thought these boards were rather international, with many posters from several countries of Continental Europe.

But you have to be realistic - that doesnt mean that people will not talk about the Tour.  Its seen as the grandfinal, the epitomy of the season - and people will refer to that and look forward to it ...  especially when the riders themselves see it as all-important.

Makes me think of a quote by singer Pete Seeger, that I really love: "Normally, I don't believe in big things, you know. I believe the world will be saved by millions of small things." Just think about it.  ;)

Quote from: Slow Rider
(sorry, bigger than the classics - though definitely not more fun)

What I don't understand is that you all seem to think it's boring and still watch it. Personally, I wouldn't be able to hold this sadomasochism for years. In 2007, I wasn't able to watch it at all because I had to write my dissertation in July and surprised myself not missing it at all, so I decided not to watch it again, and still not miss it for a million.

Quote from: Slow Rider
However, as mentioned, there was more discussion on the Giro than on the Tour during the off-season

Yes, when another race is discussed, that would be the Giro, which in my opinion is equally as boring (a pale copy of the Tour of France). But the other races rarely get a mention except the day they take place.

Quote from: Slow Rider
Because ironically, your posts have caused a long discussion about the Tour in this otherwise unrelated thread, and most of your recent posts on this forum are about the Tour. All that while the rest of us have been enjoying discussions on Tirreno, Milano-Sanremo, doping, and Richie Porte's future to name some things. Now who's obsessed?

I'm not online 24h/day. I've posted on many different things since registering here and you know it but most of the time, that's talking on empty while it's just my third post on this debate, so it's not my fault if it's long.

Oh by the way, I should've said it earlier but don't take all my posts personally, you're a very interesting poster.   ;)

On CN, I would start threads about all the races that I feel strongly about: Tro Bro Léon, 4 Days of Dunkirk, the late U23 Paris-Roubaix and the most important cyclocross events. I even started a general debate on Flandrian cycling which seemed to interest a lot of posters back then but ultimately, these threads were silenced by all this stupid verbal jousting between Contadortards and Schlecktards. And you'd say it's my fault?

I'm not saying this out of megalomania. It's just sad for all these smaller races, most of which have financial problems, races that build up this sport. Cycling is less and less popular overall and when I see some of its fans, I think perhaps it deserves what it gets.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on March 12, 2013, 18:34
1st echoes what happened or happens on other forums has no place here, it is our policy which we try to stick to.

Why not try and make threads on these races, or make comments on existing ones.

We are trying to get discussions going but being smallish and new it takes time, what I am saying is be part of the solution, not bitch about GT's.

In my way of looking at things try and make a positive contribution it goes further, plus I am sure people would love more people opening race threads .

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Slow Rider on March 12, 2013, 19:19
What I don't understand is that you all seem to think it's boring and still watch it. Personally, I wouldn't be able to hold this sadomasochism for years. In 2007, I wasn't able to watch it at all because I had to write my dissertation in July and surprised myself not missing it at all, so I decided not to watch it again, and still not miss it for a million.
Oh, I'm not bored by the Tour, not at all. It's incredibly entertaining, just because it is so overhyped, chaotic and crazy. It's just that nothing in cycling even comes close to the spring classics, not even a Giro d'Italia.

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I'm not online 24h/day. I've posted on many different things since registering here and you know it but most of the time, that's talking on empty while it's just my third post on this debate, so it's not my fault if it's long.
Hehe, that was more of a joke than a serious comment, hence the :P

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Oh by the way, I should've said it earlier but don't take all my posts personally, you're a very interesting poster.   ;)
Oh don't worry, I never take anything personal. And none of my posts were meant as a personal attack either, I always appreciate a good discussion like this. Although, when you say things like this

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Yes, when another race is discussed, that would be the Giro, which in my opinion is equally as boring (a pale copy of the Tour of France).
.. it does gets eerily close to personal ;)

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On CN, I would start threads about all the races that I feel strongly about: Tro Bro Léon, 4 Days of Dunkirk, the late U23 Paris-Roubaix and the most important cyclocross events. I even started a general debate on Flandrian cycling which seemed to interest a lot of posters back then but ultimately, these threads were silenced by all this stupid verbal jousting between Contadortards and Schlecktards. And you'd say it's my fault?

I'm not saying this out of megalomania. It's just sad for all these smaller races, most of which have financial problems, races that build up this sport. Cycling is less and less popular overall and when I see some of its fans, I think perhaps it deserves what it gets.
Agreed there. But then let's fix this the right way: by starting threads and discussion on those smaller races. This forum often has excellent threads on many smaller races outside the traditional cycling countries, courtesy of Ram and DinZ (who, btw, I hope will continue doing that this year). Last year the Sibiu Tour was one of the most discussed races of all. And JSG and Dim (and others) create a thread on every other race they feel deserves discussion too.

I'd love more discussion on smaller and U23 races, though I have to admit I'm not the most knowledgable on races like that. So if you'd like to start threads on those races, please do, I'm always happy to get to know those races better.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 12, 2013, 23:44
between Ram, Dinz and Jono L and a few others we have a pretty good coverage of small races (relative to our forum size) ...

I would love to have your contributions to those.  Some of the smaller races are fantastic - and we have been exposed to an amazing array of them since VR started.

Ram (our resident expert on these) is busy with study and work right now, so the new threads have been a little lax, but trust me - we will get them going again   :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on March 13, 2013, 00:19
between Ram, Dinz and Jono L and a few others we have a pretty good coverage of small races (relative to our forum size) ...

I would love to have your contributions to those.  Some of the smaller races are fantastic - and we have been exposed to an amazing array of them since VR started.

Ram (our resident expert on these) is busy with study and work right now, so the new threads have been a little lax, but trust me - we will get them going again   :D

Strangely there was a point last year where i would say velorooms was one of , if not the, best sites for getting information on smaller races and and having a place to discuss riders and races outside of the world tour. Unfortunately last year the site lost some impetus in this area as a number of contributors became disillusioned by what seemed a movement of the site in general towards a focus on doping and away from racing.

it is possible that the focus may return this year but i have to say people should not underestimate the amount of effort that went into getting information on some of those races. Even if the combination of doping here, and just plain annoying critical bashers on CN had not stopped me working on those races the volume would have dropped off as changes in work meant i was no longer able to keep up work on the race blog i started. when i started that blog and was updating races during the season it was easily taking 3 or 4 hours a day, including contacting race organisers, teams and riders for information. For some races the only way to gain info would be through contacts made on earlier races, like photographers and soigneurs.

with enough people willing to contribute (search and Fus are also good sources of info) then it is possible that the smaller races focus can return without putting too high a demand on one or two users.

 
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 13, 2013, 00:23
I put you in as I didnt want to forget you again  :D    But that was not with an expectation that you would do that amount of work again.

I know that your 'real' work is pretty full on at the moment ... as well as the other stuff about the disillusionment. 

We do appreciate the effort that you and ram especially put in though, and it was a joy to read and experience the variety of races that you guys showed us.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on March 13, 2013, 00:29
Strangely there was a point last year where i would say velorooms was one of , if not the, best sites for getting information on smaller races and and having a place to discuss riders and races outside of the world tour. Unfortunately last year the site lost some impetus in this area as a number of contributors became disillusioned by what seemed a movement of the site in general towards a focus on doping and away from racing.

it is possible that the focus may return this year but i have to say people should not underestimate the amount of effort that went into getting information on some of those races. Even if the combination of doping here, and just plain annoying critical bashers on CN had not stopped me working on those races the volume would have dropped off as changes in work meant i was no longer able to keep up work on the race blog i started. when i started that blog and was updating races during the season it was easily taking 3 or 4 hours a day, including contacting race organisers, teams and riders for information. For some races the only way to gain info would be through contacts made on earlier races, like photographers and soigneurs.

with enough people willing to contribute (search and Fus are also good sources of info) then it is possible that the smaller races focus can return without putting too high a demand on one or two users.

 

Agree with all of the above.

I think above all what we have to remember is we are a very young site, and most of the other sites etc have been around a long time, and have a lot of history and it takes us some time to get across our ethos and way of things, so during the tour there was always going to be a bit of historyonics going on.

Yes, race threads take a huge amount of time and research which is why I appreciate so much how much effort people put into them, and why one of the focus'es of something that is being worked on is really enhancing the way we publicise the lesser races, and the excellent work the members put in.

you only have to google some of the smaller races from last year and we are top of google, that says a lot.

last year we were very much finding our feet, mistakes were made, we learnt some things, good and bad, and theres a lot of work going on to really learn from that and develop. Just need a bit of time..
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on March 13, 2013, 00:32
And Sibiu tour was the highlight of my cycling year, it was flipping amazing :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on March 13, 2013, 00:58
Yeah was not attempting to Martyr myself or want congrats i guess my point is it does take a fair amount of investment to get the smaller races stuff running and needs continual input as that way you get more like minded people coming in. Just wanted to warn people it can be painful.

seems as if i am on some sort of mailing list for Azerbaijan this year. started getting emails and they linked to me on LinkedIn

oh and was not wanted to have a go or dredge up old discussions was just making the point that it faded as the three people that contributed most to those threads left the site. well one half left, then came back, then left again, without really leaving, then flounced back, flounced out, and shook it all about.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 13, 2013, 03:46
well - since this is the vent thread

my vent for the day is that 3 people I really liked a lot dont post much here - and when they are here they play stupid arcade games.  They should each get their asses back in here just to talk to me!!!   I am important you know - and I just dont do twitter      :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: jobiwan on March 13, 2013, 03:49
well - since this is the vent thread

my vent for the day is that 3 people I really liked a lot dont post much here - and when they are here they play stupid arcade games.  They should each get their asses back in here just to talk to me!!!   I am important you know - and I just dont do twitter      :D

There are arcade games here?!?!?!?!

Thanks Dim, now I won't get anything done!!!  :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on March 13, 2013, 06:31
Well then, a week and look what's happened here..

No, I'll not be making new race threads. Work, study, cricket, golf, rugby being telecast properly for the first time in nearly a decade and cycling. Something had to give, and the one with pee weakest coverage got flicked. Can't waste an hour or more on finding info, Dave's were usually comprehensive (and Iranian) and not balls so understandably he took more time. Would rather sit back and watch even McAulay Culkin boffing Megan Fox, which is really much easier with non streaming of races. Maybe in June, but by then Tour fever would be peaking, and definitely not Tour of Qinghai Lake. But again, as Dave alluded to, if nobody else posts, t he thread isn't really worth it. Anyway, others could do it just as well. If I could, anyone can. I do still troll when balls comes to me though, but won't be going out of my way to find said balls.

As it is, the Asian tour coverage had taken a massive hit with Cyclingiq Cam moving to Europe.

There's the Asian Continentals going on which is being telecast here with the Indian junior girls also riding with appreciable success, the Oceania continentals start tomorrow (good luck to Jono if you're riding it) I think.

As for the Tour, it's the only European race live on the telly all year here. It's definitely easier to follow, far more than the Giro and Vuelta which just become irritating to follow searching for streams, and I've never seen the winner ride into the Roubaix velodrome live as bandwidth Nazis get to me by then. And might I add, that's also really down to Armstrong being such a larger than life figure or we'd have zero live coverage of European cycling. But the Tour de France in March, it really doesn't get me excited enough to flick my boogers into the dustbin, but that's just me and the same goes to the classics in May or October.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 13, 2013, 07:48
Strangely there was a point last year where i would say velorooms was one of , if not the, best sites for getting information on smaller races and and having a place to discuss riders and races outside of the world tour. Unfortunately last year the site lost some impetus in this area as a number of contributors became disillusioned by what seemed a movement of the site in general towards a focus on doping and away from racing.

it is possible that the focus may return this year but i have to say people should not underestimate the amount of effort that went into getting information on some of those races. Even if the combination of doping here, and just plain annoying critical bashers on CN had not stopped me working on those races the volume would have dropped off as changes in work meant i was no longer able to keep up work on the race blog i started. when i started that blog and was updating races during the season it was easily taking 3 or 4 hours a day, including contacting race organisers, teams and riders for information. For some races the only way to gain info would be through contacts made on earlier races, like photographers and soigneurs.

with enough people willing to contribute (search and Fus are also good sources of info) then it is possible that the smaller races focus can return without putting too high a demand on one or two users.
I agree totally, finding all this info takes much time. And I only do it if I really care about the race - and even then not always. So I can totally understand DinZ and ram.
If I have the time and motivation to gather information on obscure races and follow them I may do that. But I will not promise anything.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on March 13, 2013, 10:46
It would be cool if the races got some threads

with 4-5 people doing them it makes less work, but I agree I know how much time goes into threads and for me the info is easier to find, but some times it is on PDF form talk about a nightmare.

But re Ram point on only 3 people reading the thread and posting I think 100s of people read them just not post or even give thanks which can seem like you are talking to yourself.

Same as in the womens side of things, but I try and keep going just if a new member thinks cool they give a sh*t about it and get involved.Having less members does mean than sometimes you think you are talking to yourself , but just because no one writes anything does not mean there is not the views
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Capt_Cavman on March 13, 2013, 12:11
It's not just that it takes so long and that only ram and DinZ and bicing post, it's also trying to keep it fresh and interesting when you have no feed. You can do it once or twice but then...

Otherwise it becomes an area of cliques and in-jokes which don't encourage existing members let alone new ones. The bigger the race, the better the coverage, the more there is to engage with.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: ram on March 13, 2013, 13:18
While some races had next to no coverage- some Malaysian, which did the year before, and the Indonesian lot- others had very good highlights packages. Vietnam was as extensive as Oman's (just that daily half hour 20-30 min highlights were on their website and 100 journalists were not sharing it), Tour of Japan had live streams too (not Fuji, but the stage with 3000 or 4000 m climbing) and Southland streamed an hour each delayed telecast of the stages and even saved it. Yet the latter petered out after Landis pulled out.

To be fair it's as much to do with personalities, quite logical too and I've got no issues with it. But if it's blog like with nobody else.... I'd not, but main thing is, not got enough time.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Echoes on March 13, 2013, 18:09
Agreed there. But then let's fix this the right way: by starting threads and discussion on those smaller races. This forum often has excellent threads on many smaller races outside the traditional cycling countries, courtesy of Ram and DinZ (who, btw, I hope will continue doing that this year). Last year the Sibiu Tour was one of the most discussed races of all. And JSG and Dim (and others) create a thread on every other race they feel deserves discussion too.

I'd love more discussion on smaller and U23 races, though I have to admit I'm not the most knowledgable on races like that. So if you'd like to start threads on those races, please do, I'm always happy to get to know those races better.

I usually follow some U23 races because I love to watch cyclocrossers results in summer, like those of your former avy (shame you changed :'() and the other Rabo Giant's.

I also closely followed the Tour of Sibiu because the Fidea were there. I even remember that Rob Peeters was disqualified for hanging to his team car.  :D

Quote from: AG
I would love to have your contributions to those.  Some of the smaller races are fantastic - and we have been exposed to an amazing array of them since VR started.

Ram (our resident expert on these) is busy with study and work right now, so the new threads have been a little lax, but trust me - we will get them going again

If so, be sure I'll make my contribution on the races I like best and those I would discover.  ;)

Edit: Oh and the problem is, I hate gathering all of these races in a "smaller race thread". I find it degrading. Lol, I'm fussy but if I have to make a contribution of the kind, the race in question deserves a thread of its own.  :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on March 13, 2013, 18:37
Echoes, previously we would have the made te effort to do individual threads, it usually depended on the level of info available. If you just had results would stick in smaller races.

Should reiterate than the main issue is time. The site used to have two lazy bums with not much to do. Now said lazy bums are actually working and that means no coverage. For start i will be continuing in my current role, and therefore spending 15 hours a week on planes and in airports, till at least september. So nothing is happning till then.

And cavman is right about content. I tried trting a blog and along with time one reason i stopped was there i only so many ways you can describe a bike race....
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on March 14, 2013, 01:44
Echoes, previously we would have the made te effort to do individual threads, it usually depended on the level of info available. If you just had results would stick in smaller races.

Should reiterate than the main issue is time. The site used to have two lazy bums with not much to do. Now said lazy bums are actually working and that means no coverage. For start i will be continuing in my current role, and therefore spending 15 hours a week on planes and in airports, till at least september. So nothing is happning till then.

And cavman is right about content. I tried trting a blog and along with time one reason i stopped was there i only so many ways you can describe a bike race....

 :D   now there is a change  :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on March 23, 2013, 21:29
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





 :D


I feel much better
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on March 23, 2013, 21:53
Every time I scroll down past AG's post above, I see this...

1985 Paris Roubaix - Arenberg Forest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3-g7uWQ4Y#)

... and all I keep seeing is a dirty old man hiding in the trees and vigorously ransacking his dignity.  :rolleye
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on March 23, 2013, 22:16
lol!
exactly my first thought L'arri !
 :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Shawn Gossman on April 03, 2013, 19:14
My random vents are the drama going on in the USA. Citizens are against citizens even in a time when nuclear threats are being made against us. No one trusts one and other and everyone wants to change each other. It is a sad time to live in a country that was founded for completely opposite reasons. Why can't people just embrace one and other and accept each other's marriage choices, self-defense choices, political opinions, religious opinions and so on... I am more worried about citizens destroying one and other than a nuke reaching mainland...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on April 03, 2013, 23:18
My random vents are the drama going on in the USA. Citizens are against citizens even in a time when nuclear threats are being made against us. No one trusts one and other and everyone wants to change each other. It is a sad time to live in a country that was founded for completely opposite reasons. Why can't people just embrace one and other and accept each other's marriage choices, self-defense choices, political opinions, religious opinions and so on... I am more worried about citizens destroying one and other than a nuke reaching mainland...

it is interesting can never tell if my impressions of the US are based on stereotypical media impressions we get outside or if it really is that bad. been giving serious thought to moving to the US as my company has a fair amount of work there and just not sure i want to move my kid there. He has grown up in Sydney in an inner city area which i think provides him with a balanced outlook on life. I wonder if the US would unbalance that at all.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Shawn Gossman on April 04, 2013, 02:23
Well I will say this, if you move to a burb or out of the city in America, its a bit better and a bit more peaceful... No disrespect to the city folks though.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on April 04, 2013, 02:34
it is interesting can never tell if my impressions of the US are based on stereotypical media impressions we get outside or if it really is that bad. been giving serious thought to moving to the US as my company has a fair amount of work there and just not sure i want to move my kid there. He has grown up in Sydney in an inner city area which i think provides him with a balanced outlook on life. I wonder if the US would unbalance that at all.

Dinzy we are all unbalanced.
honestly though it would depend on where you raised him..just like anywhere.  :cheesy
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on April 04, 2013, 02:49
flip lance..

That is all.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on April 04, 2013, 02:51
And flip the flipping word censor too.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on April 04, 2013, 03:55
Dinzy we are all unbalanced.
honestly though it would depend on where you raised him..just like anywhere.  :cheesy

Most likely destination right now would be LA. am hoping the relative cost of living would mean we could afford to live somewhere nice
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on April 04, 2013, 09:22
I think the US is one of the few countries in the world where you can still choose to to live how you want.

While American society appears to vomit up the furball perception of a sort of gross cultural template that many foreigners find distasteful, Americans themselves can still diversify and create something different within the tableau of a vast and diverse landscape, something which is increasingly difficult to do here in Europe.

The Consumer Channel is not the only show on TV, right? Do touch that dial, folks.

It's a question of the will to explore, but I think all the Americans I've met in person in recent years - and many of those I with whom I associate online - they all seem to bear this out.

Head to one of the famous drop-out hang-outs and you'll see what I mean. If I was going to settle in the US (mere conjecture, of course, thanks to post '90s immigration policy, unless you want to learn to dance the El Paso Rumba), I would make a beeline for one.

Centres of Excellence for Studies of the Alternative.

I could map them easily, stick a pin in wherever these crazy kids live: Boulder, Key West, Black Rock, Portland, San Francisco, Santa Fe... That's the America I love. Gay mayors, self-sustaining house projects and cyclo-cross. Different.

I think of the folks I know there and the Mews and Krebskis and Drummer Boys of this world and I don't worry about the future of the US at all. :)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Capt_Cavman on April 04, 2013, 10:04
I worry.

It seems to me, as a complete outsider, that the founding fathers were an astute bunch who set up a relatively simple set of rules for a dynamic, growing, fair society to live by, as equals. 

It also seems to me that there has been a relentless and ever increasing erosion of those rules in order that some may be more equal than others.

I have my doubts as to whether this situation is sustainable.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on April 04, 2013, 11:17
I worry.

It seems to me, as a complete outsider, that the founding fathers were an astute bunch who set up a relatively simple set of rules for a dynamic, growing, fair society to live by, as equals. 

It also seems to me that there has been a relentless and ever increasing erosion of those rules in order that some may be more equal than others.

I have my doubts as to whether this situation is sustainable.

Reaganomics + Delaware = Not a patch on the City of London. ;)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on April 05, 2013, 23:47
And flip the flipping word censor too.

feck

 :D

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on April 05, 2013, 23:49
Aw L'arri....sweet and touching words up there...

:wave
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Martin318is on April 06, 2013, 06:52
The bit that depresses me is that people in the US are happy to fudge the original ideals of the founding fathers when it suits them but if it comes to something like reducing the availability of serious automatic weapons then suddenly its against the Constitution and therefore an un-American idea.

Its difficult to keep reminding myself that you cannot judge anything based upon a loose steroptype when you see some of the responses to the latest masacre - lets arm the teachers!  WTF!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on April 10, 2013, 09:18
Otherwise it becomes an area of cliques and in-jokes which don't encourage existing members let alone new ones.

The bigger the race, the better the coverage, the more there is to engage with.

I hear you, and I went away and thought about this. When guys are investing as much time and effort on these smaller races, it is understandable that a clique forms, same as it does between peers who all work hard to become specialists, for lack of a better word. It does seem a massive labour of love. If this is good for VR - something that is not on all other forums (no clue, this is my only forum, but if Twitter is any indication..) - even though not as much to engage with yet, it's not the same old? Makes sense that more members take the plunge and be involved? Nice to be the Go To forum for something, didn't some cycling dude used to read all these posts? Slightly hypocritical of me, since I'm not about to do it.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on April 10, 2013, 21:46
I hear you, and I went away and thought about this. When guys are investing as much time and effort on these smaller races, it is understandable that a clique forms, same as it does between peers who all work hard to become specialists, for lack of a better word. It does seem a massive labour of love. If this is good for VR - something that is not on all other forums (no clue, this is my only forum, but if Twitter is any indication..) - even though not as much to engage with yet, it's not the same old? Makes sense that more members take the plunge and be involved? Nice to be the Go To forum for something, didn't some cycling dude used to read all these posts? Slightly hypocritical of me, since I'm not about to do it.

it is a chicken and egg situation. partly down to numbers and partly down to time zones. when it is the third race in a row that ends up with just Ram and me talking then it is always going to get a bit like that. not helped by the fact that both of us are slightly strange and also tried to put our own spin on the commentary. basically there is only so many ways you can say a guy broke away and someone chased him down. you start to understand why commentators talk such crap (not paul and phil there is nothing to justify the sh*t they say)

it was also not helped by the fact that the three people that most contributed in the early days were on this side of the world and focusing on Asian races. that was always a quiet time for the site and meant most people came in in the morning to pages of crap. If anyone else did join in we would jump on them like over enthusiastic Labradors (frankly i am amazed Jono ever stuck around) 

we shall see. i have moments when i am keen to start up again and then life gets in the way. work is busy and i have the small matter of 15 kilos to lose
Title: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on April 11, 2013, 06:42
not helped by the fact that both of us are slightly strange

If anyone else did join in we would jump on them like over enthusiastic Labradors

Classic :)

Well, I guess what I'm saying in a nutshell is that I understand that people felt a bit left out, but not to let it put them off from posting re smaller races, if that (and not the actual research) is the only thing hindering them.

As for the 15 kilos.. good luck!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 28, 2013, 18:02
Something I saw a few days ago whilst driving.  Someone cycling along wearing a Sky WC replica jersey (like Cav's from last year).  Replica jerseys I have no issue with, but a WC jersey?  Really?  Not my cup of tea at all.  Struck me as a bit ridiculous frankly...  Vent over  :)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on April 28, 2013, 19:38
\My opinion has always been, you shouldnt be able to even buy replica WC or National champions jerseys.. should be banned outright..

Polka dot jerseys are fine, because its fun spotting one and sitting behind them and then dumping them the first time the road goes up..

Only thing more ridiculous than a KOM jersey on a sunday rider, is a KOM jersey on a belgian (or any other flatlands) rider..
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on May 01, 2013, 20:23
Had a football match today. During the warm-up, I twisted my ankle. :(
Now it's swollen, and I'm sitting here with an ice pack on it.
Stupid artifical grass.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: l29205 on June 14, 2013, 07:27
why don't people understand time zones.  It is 1:30 AM and I am still working.   But someone is complaining that is 5:00 PM and it is the end of his shift. :yuush
 

Post Merge: June 14, 2013, 09:20
why don't people understand time zones.  It is 1:30 AM and I am still working.   But someone is complaining that is 5:00 PM and it is the end of his shift. :yuush
 

Crap, moved from India to Belgium at least I can deal with an Indian accent.  But those people from Belgium are evil. :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 22, 2013, 10:46
I can see why some members don't want to post anymore - nothing to do with the moderators, I feel for the guys, they're just trying to keep order.

I guess if mentioning others' tone is not allowed, I will have to find another way to respond. Ridicule seems to work well for some, I might just take it up as a part time hobby too.

Of course, I could also just not bother being on this forum anymore - probably the healthier choice for me.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 22, 2013, 11:13
This temperamental side,
The one you say that you can't hide.
D' you ever see yourself -
The way it looks to someone else?
This temperamental trick,
The one you say you can't predict.
You're like an empty cup.
Forgive me if I don't wait up.
I don't get where you're coming from -
What is real and what's put on,
What has stayed and what has gone.
How long will this thing go on and on?

#EBTG

http://www.metrolyrics.com/temperamental-lyrics-everything-but-the-girl.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Rddkpa0Uc
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: chmod_775 on July 22, 2013, 22:06
Just an FYI on L.A. if there is an overwhelming positive reason for you to move then consider it. Otherwise, not much there you can't get anywhere else.

Also keep in mind immigration/work visas are tough.  Should your work end, the U.S. more or less gives you a few days to leave.  Some less scrupulous employers use their power to keep you in-country to keep the worker at below market wages depending on the visa you have.  I'm not an expert on immigration visas, but I've seen first-hand what an employer can do entirely within the law to immigrants working under visa.

Market wages for most professions outside senior management is heading downward and have been for quite some time.  If it's a senior management, then good times are here and even more money is coming your way.

American media is not a good proxy for the zietgeist.  Just like most places in the world, it depends on who you talk to. 

Just an FYI, the founding fathers of the U.S. are dead.  They weren't that great a bunch of guys themselves either.  Most of the modern discussion that passes for what founding fathers claimed to want is propaganda.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on July 22, 2013, 22:15
I can see why some members don't want to post anymore - nothing to do with the moderators, I feel for the guys, they're just trying to keep order.


It is scientifically known as July fever.. It comes, It goes.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on July 23, 2013, 00:10
I can see why some members don't want to post anymore - nothing to do with the moderators, I feel for the guys, they're just trying to keep order.

I guess if mentioning others' tone is not allowed, I will have to find another way to respond. Ridicule seems to work well for some, I might just take it up as a part time hobby too.

Of course, I could also just not bother being on this forum anymore - probably the healthier choice for me.

that is the choice others have taken before you. it used to be that you could just block the whole of the dark side and talk cycling but unfortunately the amount of discussion of cycling this time of year is so little may as well stick to twitter.

now if you feel like reviewing any races i know a great little cycling blog with two very lazy authors.....

but i also agree with the fact that in certain cases it is hard to respond as you are not allowed to address the elephant in the room because it is considered attacking the poster. Some people here and in clinic are clearly sat with tin foil hats to stop the sky bus satellite dish from reading their minds and see a conspiracy every where. some of them i do not mind. Others clearly have other agendas and it has been that that drove other people away
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 23, 2013, 07:34
It is scientifically known as July fever.. It comes, It goes.

Not everybody suffers from the same malaise. If people have got a fever they should kindly put themselves on a couple days bed rest until it's passed, and let the rest of us enjoy this time without having to listen to others' sniffles and sneezes. But no. That, as they say, is too much to ask. All good. Frees me of the need to feel like I should really consider what I'm writing. And also makes me not care if I end up crossing the line either. Mutual respect? Guess that only exists in fairy tales.  Anyway, it's not like I'll be missed, the screaming mob will always drown out the rest, you won't even notice I'm gone.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 23, 2013, 07:47
that is the choice others have taken before you. it used to be that you could just block the whole of the dark side and talk cycling but unfortunately the amount of discussion of cycling this time of year is so little may as well stick to twitter.

now if you feel like reviewing any races i know a great little cycling blog with two very lazy authors.....

but i also agree with the fact that in certain cases it is hard to respond as you are not allowed to address the elephant in the room because it is considered attacking the poster. Some people here and in clinic are clearly sat with tin foil hats to stop the sky bus satellite dish from reading their minds and see a conspiracy every where. some of them i do not mind. Others clearly have other agendas and it has been that that drove other people away

That just about sums it up perfectly. It's a shame.

Ha! Taking advantage while I'm in a vulnerable state :brzzzz I've seen that blog, it's lovely, I'd just stuff it up :slow

Yeah, it is hard. Ugly begets ugly. I can feel it seeping in. Better to just walk away.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: taiwan on July 24, 2013, 01:32
PO'd that CN saw fit to take the entire body of knowledge that was their forum, and effectively scrumfle it up and bin it. PO'd is an understatement. Hope I'm wrong.

This will be relevant to many posters on here.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DinZ on July 24, 2013, 02:03
yes i know we should not mention the unmentionable - but have they said anything about it yet?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on July 24, 2013, 02:07
Technically they are updating. It started as a simple update that just seems to have dragged on.
Originally I thought maybe a server update because of the reason crashes, the more it goes on the more I wonder if they are updating the software.

For their sake I hope not. They used the last version of VBulletin 3, so theres no more patches for that. VBulletin 4 is buggy as flip, and if they update to that they would actually be updating to something older than the latest version of VB3. If they are updating to VBulletin 5 then you may as well wheel out the Hearse. The Last patch for it issued in June had 440, YES, Four hundred and Forty bugfixes, and they arent even close to fixing all the bugs. It looks pretty, but its slower than sh*t off a spoon, and is lacking some of the most basic forum functionality (like, images in posts ffs), I hope for their sake, (AND OURS) that they arent upgrading the software.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 24, 2013, 14:14
Gosh I still remember those days as a first year law student so well. The way class mates and professors used to laugh and point at those who would make a statement in class without having any evidence, previous court decisions, etc to back it up with. Eventually they got so tired of being laughed at in front of their peers that they either quit law, or stopped making emphatic statements without having backup for it #ThoseWereTheDays
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 25, 2013, 12:43
A love like ours is love that's hard to find
How could we let it slip away
We've come too far to leave it all behind
How could we end it all this way
When tomorrow comes and we'll both regret
The things we said today

*Awww*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ykMNtzMT8
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 25, 2013, 14:35
Your own Personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who cares
Your own Personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who's there

Feeling's unknown and you're all alone
Flesh and bone by the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you believer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXEWjgmexdk
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: l29205 on July 26, 2013, 16:27
Technically they are updating. It started as a simple update that just seems to have dragged on.
Originally I thought maybe a server update because of the reason crashes, the more it goes on the more I wonder if they are updating the software.

For their sake I hope not. They used the last version of VBulletin 3, so theres no more patches for that. VBulletin 4 is buggy as flip, and if they update to that they would actually be updating to something older than the latest version of VB3. If they are updating to VBulletin 5 then you may as well wheel out the Hearse. The Last patch for it issued in June had 440, YES, Four hundred and Forty bugfixes, and they arent even close to fixing all the bugs. It looks pretty, but its slower than sh*t off a spoon, and is lacking some of the most basic forum functionality (like, images in posts ffs), I hope for their sake, (AND OURS) that they arent upgrading the software.


Why in the H*ll would you update at this time of year?  If you have blown off maintenance this long wait until the dead period after the Veulta.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 26, 2013, 16:58
"@TheGoldenMirror: Your assumptions about someone may not be right. Always check your thoughts with reality. Talk to that person and your view will change"
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: chmod_775 on July 26, 2013, 17:02

Why in the H*ll would you update at this time of year?  If you have blown off maintenance this long wait until the dead period after the Veulta.

At this point, I seriously doubt it's a technical problem.  Judging by the comments on some of the stories there, it's 2004 all over again this time with British Cycling. 

Lots of effort to shut down the dissent then too.

The editorial side did okay, certainly better than other publications, but I sense that's changed too.  Get on board or be run out of business.  Pretty simple.

Disappointed.  But, that's business.

Edit: It turns out I was wrong.  Shocker!
http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=3143.0;topicseen
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: taiwan on July 27, 2013, 09:22
Edit: It turns out I was wrong.  Shocker!
http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=3143.0;topicseen
Apparently I was wrong too. Sue me, I don't twitter or read pcgamer, and the timing was very coincidential.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on July 27, 2013, 14:14
They (finally) put it on their own site too. The explanation is now there when you click 'Forums' on CN. Crazy it took so long to do that.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on July 27, 2013, 14:18
They (finally) put it on their own site too. The explanation is now there when you click 'Forums' on CN. Crazy it took so long to do that.

Even poorer that I knew before their staff did :D BUt anyway, conspiracy theory's over. Back to venting. :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 27, 2013, 14:37
Even poorer that I knew before their staff did :D BUt anyway, conspiracy theory's over. Back to venting. :D

Dave's da BOSS.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on July 27, 2013, 16:17
I don't feel the loss of it has really been that big a loss anyway.  Was becoming very "close" in there.

Mebbe I'll take it as a hint to get off my duff and spend less time trolling Internet forums and more moving my bones.  (Except for here of course).
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 27, 2013, 21:23
*Sigh*
Title: Carlton Kirby
Post by: taiwan on July 28, 2013, 09:16
The guy is just not good enough to be a commentator. That's being as objective as possible.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Eric on July 28, 2013, 13:29
Gah. Cut myself shaving this morning.   :pizzedoff:
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 28, 2013, 18:46
I could be wrong, I could be right
I could be black, I could be white
I could be right, I could be wrong
I could be white, I could be black
Your time has come, your second skin
The cost so high the gain so low

Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN-GGeNPQEg

#JohnnyLydon #PIL
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on July 29, 2013, 04:57
Gah. Cut myself shaving this morning.   :pizzedoff:

That sucks.  I try not to do that, I use a straight razor.  Mornings with shaky hands scare me.

It only hurts if the blade isn't sharp enough.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Eric on July 29, 2013, 05:17
That sucks.  I try not to do that, I use a straight razor.  Mornings with shaky hands scare me.

It only hurts if the blade isn't sharp enough.

I don't know how some people are brave enough to shave, ahem, down there. The idea terrifies me!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on July 29, 2013, 05:24
I don't know how some people are brave enough to shave, ahem, down there. The idea terrifies me!

I have much better things to do in life.  Besides, I don't get it.

But I'm old.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: pedaling squares on July 29, 2013, 05:26
Lac-Mégantic, Santiago de Compostela, Avellino.

Enough with the mass-casualty tragedies. May the deceased RIP.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Eric on July 29, 2013, 06:44
I have much better things to do in life.  Besides, I don't get it.

But I'm old.

It's what the cool kids do :(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on July 29, 2013, 07:02
Lac-Mégantic, Santiago de Compostela, Avellino.

Enough with the mass-casualty tragedies. May the deceased RIP.

Amen.

The pictures coming out of Lac Mégantic are just beyond belief.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: oitallefotua on July 29, 2013, 14:43
I have much better things to do in life.  Besides, I don't get it.

But I'm old.

When you go down on a woman, what do you prefer to meet?

(http://blog.venturocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Desert-Tracks.jpg)
(http://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/green/images/issue-6/lawn.jpg)
(http://classbb.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/rainforest1.jpg)

The point is not necessarily to do it for your own sake, but for your partner(s)'s ;-)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 29, 2013, 16:46
Ha ha Oitalle!

And Dave Bruyneel

Who cares about all this.

Froomes transformation from pack fodder to Bjarne Riis is what this thread should be about.

Obviously the people posting the stuff care about that, or they wouldn't have bothered. The thread pertains to all things Chris Froome, not just what you refer to above. Knock yourself out, feel free to open a new thread with that exact title to limit the scope of discussion to what you want to talk about.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on July 29, 2013, 19:08
We had a teengae girl, an exchange student, for two summers.  Part of a program to give kids from rural Quebec a chance to see the rets of the country.

She was from Lac Megantic.  Her parents ran a Sugar Shack so I guess the good nes is that they will have lived out of town.

The images coming out of Lac Megantic are horrific.  I don't know how a town recovers from that.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/sadness-stress-linger-as-lac-megantic-survivors-try-to-move-on-1.1387864

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on July 29, 2013, 19:44
have to admit, I didn't know about this until reading your post and then checking the news. it's a terrible thing to have happened. a whole town. it reminds me of Lockerbie in the 80s.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 29, 2013, 20:19
We had a teengae girl, an exchange student, for two summers.  Part of a program to give kids from rural Quebec a chance to see the rets of the country.

She was from Lac Megantic.  Her parents ran a Sugar Shack so I guess the good nes is that they will have lived out of town.

The images coming out of Lac Megantic are horrific.  I don't know how a town recovers from that.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/sadness-stress-linger-as-lac-megantic-survivors-try-to-move-on-1.1387864

Ican'teven imagine. Hope those folks are ok.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Zam on July 29, 2013, 20:29
I think there is a video of it on youtube.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 29, 2013, 21:08
I think there is a video of it on youtube.

Hi Zam, have you seen it? Is it bad? I'm quite sensitive.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on July 29, 2013, 23:00
I have to admit that this one hit me in particular because I recognized the name of the town from the Tour de Beauce - they always have a stage finishing on Mont-Mégantic (which I assume is a mountain overlooking the lake).

Haven't really seen any pictures from the damage so far, but even only from reading and hearing news reports it's horrible.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on July 30, 2013, 01:19
The company that owns the railway hired a bunch of reclamation contractors, right away, to start working at clean up and recovery.

Then when the contractors, hired by the railway company, wanted to be paid.  They were referred to the Town of Lac Mégantic and told that the town would be paying them.  Which of course, was news to the town.

Classy.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on July 30, 2013, 01:23
No-holds-barred-capitalism at its very finest.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on July 30, 2013, 01:41
And yes, Mont Mégantic is right outside town.  Generally considered to be the toughest climb in the Canadian Shield.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 30, 2013, 02:12
The company that owns the railway hired a bunch of reclamation contractors, right away, to start working at clean up and recovery.

Then when the contractors, hired by the railway company, wanted to be paid.  They were referred to the Town of Lac Mégantic and told that the town would be paying them.  Which of course, was news to the town.

Classy.

That's disgusting  :-(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 30, 2013, 11:41
Whoever showed my daughter 'Peppa Pig' has alot to answer for. It's the biggest pile of turd going.

I like your new signature, dialect and all, it's cool. I speak a slight Austrian Deutsch w. a bit of Swiss and Hochdeutsch mixed in :lol
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: The Hitch on July 31, 2013, 00:38
Riding my bike today to some business for once rather than take the tube, light turned red, i took a different route, got lost, took my phone out (£400) to check map, for some reason phone wont give me location, need to rush it back in, earphones get caught on pocket, phone tumbles out opens up lands right under my bike infront of back wheel, i ride over, poof Screen cracked into a million different pieces.

Thats me -70kg + my bike -13kg + my rucksack with water, food, 2 locks - 10kg= 95 kg give or take packed into a very thin bicycle wheel goes over the phone, and yet the camera still works fine, the rest of the phone seems to work. ( I suppose the cheap but nonetheless soft phone cover i bought that protected the bottom of the phone may be a big reason for that.)

 Bought a £35 replacement screen off ebay which my friend who owes me £700 will "help" (do every thing himself) me replace on saturday, god willing, providing the ebay screen  isn't an absolute piece of crap

Spoilt first world child that I am, ive been in a state of shock all day and doubt ill be able to catch any sleep
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on July 31, 2013, 00:47
You need one of these bad boys
http://www.case-mate.com/tank/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_08-eVA5WEE

And a phone with Gorilla Glass.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Dim on July 31, 2013, 00:51
Or this baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phUqRJdHmm8
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: The Hitch on July 31, 2013, 00:53
You need one of these bad boys
http://www.case-mate.com/tank/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_08-eVA5WEE

And a phone with Gorilla Glass.

I did have Gorilla glass. But its not going to resist 96kg riding over.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on July 31, 2013, 01:43
:hug Hitch.

I feel so lost without my phone.   

Hopefully the new screen works out fine ...

my daughter has a cover like that case-mate one for her ipod and it is almost indestructible.  Its super hard plastic with a silicon cover over the top.  that would withstand a bike (not that you are intending to try that again anyway :D  )
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on July 31, 2013, 03:04
that sucks hitchey  :ohno:
I hate it when something that you use all the time gets mucked up...it's unsettling..stupid I know but that doesn't change what bugs you...

I like the feel and thin size of my iPhone..so have a small thin Belkin rubber cover on the back & edges...I hope I dont smash the glass or drop it :(
but I didn't get the damn thing just to put some giant truk box size thingie on it...defeats the purpose and feel

good luck with the replacement screen
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: mew on July 31, 2013, 03:08
The reason I came here to vent....

I really don't care if the stupid Clinic doesn't come back ...but it just occurred to me in the middle of the night last night..all the pics that were on the 'Pics of you" thread there ..or whatever it was called...there were a million terrific pics of Craig on there...
FGS I hope they still have them saved, stored in some cloud somewhere...it makes me really sad to think that they may have vanished from our lives

damn I sure feel sad when I think about Craig...:(  sniff
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: pedaling squares on July 31, 2013, 04:40
Hi Zam, have you seen it? Is it bad? I'm quite sensitive.
This video gives you an idea of the scale of the blasts, which literally wiped out several buildings in the downtown core and 30 homes. I watched the first six minutes and there was nothing sensitive in it, although you get a good idea of the emotion this man is feeling as he witnesses his town being destroyed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVRRgAtL4A

I'd better vent to keep this thread on track, although it seems petty after discussing a tragedy. I'm going to ask Mother Nature to remember all things in moderation. Endless rain in June, endless sun in July... the tourists are happy, the grapes are getting nice and fat, but some of us have to work and would appreciate a nice cool shower!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Icebreaker on July 31, 2013, 05:13
This video gives you an idea of the scale of the blasts, which literally wiped out several buildings in the downtown core and 30 homes. I watched the first six minutes and there was nothing sensitive in it, although you get a good idea of the emotion this man is feeling as he witnesses his town being destroyed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVRRgAtL4A

I'd better vent to keep this thread on track, although it seems petty after discussing a tragedy. I'm going to ask Mother Nature to remember all things in moderation. Endless rain in June, endless sun in July... the tourists are happy, the grapes are getting nice and fat, but some of us have to work and would appreciate a nice cool shower!

My life got much easier after writing that $13K cheque to put in a new air conditioner, air handler and furnace.

The women in my home are MUCH happier.  Which of course means, I am happier.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on July 31, 2013, 11:09
Detailed reasons for the closure have been given elsewhere (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=3143.0) and the Cycling News forum is by no means the only Future Publishing property to be affected.

I daresay few PC Gamer users even know who Chris Froome or Brian Cookson are.

And since it's a private business, Future Publishing has no responsibility to protect anyone's speech, free or otherwise.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Sizzle on July 31, 2013, 13:47
When you go down on a woman, what do you prefer to meet?

(http://blog.venturocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Desert-Tracks.jpg)
(http://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/green/images/issue-6/lawn.jpg)
(http://classbb.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/rainforest1.jpg)

The point is not necessarily to do it for your own sake, but for your partner(s)'s ;-)



Nah, you gotta do only the things you're comfortable with. The 'back-to-pre-pubescence' thing was a mindflip for me. (Looks like I'm a little girl again. WTF?)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Flo on October 27, 2013, 10:35
Barrus tried to kill me!! :o he told me it was safe to ride with this wind and then I almost got blown into a ditch!!!! :o :angry
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DB-Coop on October 27, 2013, 11:20
Barrus tried to kill me!! :o he told me it was safe to ride with this wind and then I almost got blown into a ditch!!!! :o :angry

Taking advise from the internet is always dangerous.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on October 27, 2013, 12:27
taking advice from Barrus is always dangerous  :P
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gotland on October 27, 2013, 13:01
Barrus tried to kill me!! :o he told me it was safe to ride with this wind and then I almost got blown into a ditch!!!! :o :angry

No, that is not the proper way to thank someone who is concerned about your physical development on the bike.  Rules #5 and #6 comes to mind. A gustof wind here and there won't kill you only make you stronger  :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 03, 2014, 15:43
Pet hate of mine ...

https://twitter.com/Juan_Guti/status/419129519962722304

Marion Rousse is a rising star of French cycling. She rides for the French national team on the road and track and was 2012 National RR champion at only 20 years old.

But yeah, the most important thing for the Spanish cycling press to tweet is that she's Tony Gallopin's girlfriend.

:angry
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on January 03, 2014, 16:01
Isn't that similar to Garner on Argos last year?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 03, 2014, 16:02
Isn't that similar to Garner on Argos last year?

I don't know ... you mean being World Champion versus Lars van der Haar's gf? Did it happen with her too? Wouldn't be surprised ...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on January 03, 2014, 16:07
Sure it was her. Couldn't remember the guys name.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gotland on February 01, 2014, 00:39
Oh bugger! I think I just bricked my phone. Why should I play hacker and try to update my OS? If it ain't broke don't fix it you stupid git!

Edit: Just some mild panic and self battering, phone is working so far :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gotland on February 22, 2014, 20:56
Why oh why does the olympic final in hockey collide with GVA Trofee Oostmalle? Especially when Emma Johansson is going to race in the Swedish championship jersey. *ARGH*
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Flo on February 23, 2014, 18:25
When I search kitty on google images I get only hello kitty pics :angry :o :S :shh
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on February 23, 2014, 18:34
FEYENOORD GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

#frustration
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on February 23, 2014, 18:34
Oh bugger! I think I just bricked my phone. Why should I play hacker and try to update my OS? If it ain't broke don't fix it you stupid git!

Edit: Just some mild panic and self battering, phone is working so far :D

Gotland, you're sooooo coooool :lol
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gotland on February 23, 2014, 19:12
When I search kitty on google images I get only hello kitty pics :angry :o :S :shh

Try start page as search engine. It sends you request anonymously to google.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Flo on February 23, 2014, 19:23
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gotland on February 23, 2014, 20:47
Gotland, you're sooooo coooool :lol

Thanks I'm really working hard to embrace my coolness (not so much tbh).
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: froome19 on February 23, 2014, 20:52
Thanks I'm really working hard to embrace my coolness (not so much tbh).
I genuinely do feel bad for you.
It must be hard being that cool.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on February 23, 2014, 21:10
He's cool, let's call a spade a spade shall we  ;)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Ram on February 24, 2014, 01:59
When I search kitty on google images I get only hello kitty pics :angry :o :S :shh
Have you tried pussy?

Looks worriedly around for pysh_ling
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gotland on February 24, 2014, 11:21
I genuinely do feel bad for you.
It must be hard being that cool.

Yes, sometimes I feel really lonely and cold at the top. It does not matter at all – coz I'm cool, innit ;)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on March 07, 2014, 21:26
When I search kitty on google images I get only hello kitty pics :angry :o :S :shh
I may be two weeks late to the party, but try to search for "kitty -hello" (without the quotation marks).
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DB-Coop on March 23, 2014, 00:05
It's one o'clock at night in Denmark now, and someone where I live is playing Techno, Techno  :o First of all, how can anybody be that stuck in the nineties, and why listen to a genre of music that is made for people on MDMA, unless one actually is on MDMA, in which case why be that at home? Techno for me is the lowest form of music, is it music? If it is music it seems clear that it is not culture, and music without culture is basically just a product for people that wouldn't realize culture to abuse to make it seems as if they have culture.

Edit: Turns out what I thought was Techno was at least assisted by terrible danish Regae about nothing what so ever.

Also for anybody wondering there is no point behind the above font change, just wanted to see what it actually edited.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: FatBoy on May 01, 2014, 18:26
I got refused entry. to Canada. i thought they were nice to everyone

I mean they did have a valid point that i may need a work permit to go work in Canada for 2 weeks and even if i did not i had no documentation with me to prove that i did not need one.

but Canada of all places.

One of my friends helpfully pointed out that Canada now relies on immigrants to avoid depopulation but obviously the pretty lady immigration agent did not view me as a potential solution to their population growth issues.

did not want to go there anyway. and now when ever i go anywhere and they ask have you ever been refused entry into a country, i have to say yes.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on May 02, 2014, 00:58
:rofl:


*points and laughs*
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DB-Coop on May 12, 2014, 18:22
did not want to go there anyway. and now when ever i go anywhere and they ask have you ever been refused entry into a country, i have to say yes.

Good news is they likely won't ask - Bad news is it is because they share that information among each other.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Capt_Cavman on May 13, 2014, 21:46
I bought a new pair of cycling shoes - bit over budget. But when I came to take the cleats off the old pair, the bolts had completely fused to the cleat. You can't see the join with the naked eye at all and I destroyed one hex key before giving up.

So new cleats on order now and budget well and truly blown.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Eric on May 24, 2014, 12:13
My dad cooked goat biryani for dinner today

(http://cdn.sailusfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/pressure-cooker-biryani.jpg)

But my stupid sore throat means I can't eat even a morsel of it :(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on May 27, 2014, 05:24
18 months. I've waited for today's Giro stage the last 18 months.
And now, I'm at work until 16:00 and won't be able to see my absolute favourite climb, bar none (Stelvio), live. :angry

Oh well. Let's that one is for the break and #blue mountain points anyway, with the favourites waiting until Val Martello - which I will be able to watch.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Zam on May 27, 2014, 19:26
My post was deleted?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Gotland on May 27, 2014, 19:33
18 months. I've waited for today's Giro stage the last 18 months.
And now, I'm at work until 16:00 and won't be able to see my absolute favourite climb, bar none (Stelvio), live. :angry

Oh well. Let's that one is for the break and #blue mountain points anyway, with the favourites waiting until Val Martello - which I will be able to watch.

I feel your pain brah. Working life just sucks. Missing out on all those awesome mountain stages.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on May 28, 2014, 01:04
My post was deleted?

not that I know of .... but looking into it ...
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Zam on May 28, 2014, 01:42
not that I know of .... but looking into it ...




pretty sure it was as Eric replied..it was about my vent on teenagers.















Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on May 28, 2014, 01:44
right -

nope, not deleted.   You posted it here

http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=5010.msg157896#msg157896

 :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Drummer Boy on May 28, 2014, 02:36
I got refused entry. to Canada. i thought they were nice to everyone
As a kid, we went there once or twice every year to visit relatives. No passports or any of that nonsense at the time. Just drive up to the border crossing, a few dumb questions...and off you go.

One year, when me and my sister were very young, the border agent (if such a title was even worthy back then) asked my Dad, "Are you transporting any jewelry?"

To which, he of course, said, "No."

Not to be outdone, my sister, who had a very fake, plastic necklace with plastic diamonds that she was very proud of, announced from the back seat of the car, "What about the diamonds?!"  :lol

Dad was none too happy...

----------------
Many years later I flew into Toronto to meet up with my sister who was living there at the time. I just showed up, no passport or anything because it hadn't occurred to me that anything would have change over the years in terms of protocol. When the customs agent asked for my passport I just stared at her blankly. Didn't she know who I was? That same little boy who had crossed the Rainbow Bridge at Niagara Falls countless times over the years! Not to mention several trips to Quebec? No paper work required!  :P

Luckily, I did at least have my drivers license with me. That, apparently, was enough.  :shh


Then 9/11 happened...



Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Zam on May 28, 2014, 12:10
right -

nope, not deleted.   You posted it here

http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=5010.msg157896#msg157896

 :D

Yea, just realised and about to post   ..major brain fart  ..sorry.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on May 28, 2014, 12:20
all good.  was thinking I was going insane there for a while coz I couldnt find anything  :lol
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2014, 08:00
No one knows my struggle
They dont know my troubles

Oh sh*t that rhymes
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Flo on June 18, 2014, 09:12
No it doesn't.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2014, 09:32
Anyway that was my vent
I feel very isolated
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on June 18, 2014, 15:26
:hug :karen

Do more of what makes you happy. And when you're feeling happier, take a look around. :)
It worked for me. ;)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: DB-Coop on July 02, 2014, 21:44
I'm a big question mark on what to do RE: Post Danmark Rundt this year, on one side I really want to see the race support the riders etc. On the other I really want to see Jesper (Danish equivalent of Pat) Worre lose his job, and as such is considering not watching the race all together :( . I am considering writing an E-mail to the Danish Postal service that sponsor the race to complain about this. Not sure what to do about it really. Quite peeed off about DCU leaving a man who is on a personal vendetta in charge :angry

Any advise is welcome
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on July 02, 2014, 23:00
I'm a big question mark on what to do RE: Post Danmark Rundt this year, on one side I really want to see the race support the riders etc. On the other I really want to see Jesper (Danish equivalent of Pat) Worre lose his job, and as such is considering not watching the race all together :( . I am considering writing an E-mail to the Danish Postal service that sponsor the race to complain about this. Not sure what to do about it really. Quite peeed off about DCU leaving a man who is on a personal vendetta in charge :angry

Any advise is welcome

Tell them Worre got busted too when he was a rider. Not on the same level but what he is doing is still hypocritical. ;)

Then take a break. These issues are not important enough to get upset about yourself. :hug
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on July 02, 2014, 23:10
Support the riders that do get to race:
#cult Magnus Cort, Troels Vinther, Michael Reihs, Martin Mortensen, Michael Carbel, Lasse Bøchman, Rasmus Sterobo
#concordia Morten Øllegaard, Jonas Aaen, Nikola Aistrup, Kasper Klostergaard, Mikkel Mortensen, Alex Rasmussen, Kasper Schjønnemann
#trefor Søren Kragh, Patrick Clausen, Rasmus Guldhammer, Rasmus Mygind, Frederik Plesner, Rasmus Quaade, Thomas Nybo Riis, Aske Vorre
#teamdk Lasse Norman, Nicolai Brøchner, Kristian Haugaard, Casper Folsach, Christoffer Lisson, Mathias Dam Westergaard
Plenty of guys who will be happy for each and every word of encouragement and support.

Worre is a moron, and Danish cycling would be in a better place without him. But similar things could be said about Hembo.
Have you seen the comment section on the latest articles on Feltet.dk? Good grief, the amount of unprofessionalism that's shown there is beyond belief.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: johnmarquez on July 03, 2014, 20:29
I can't stand cheap people either. I am always at the short end of the stick when the bill comes.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on July 07, 2014, 09:42
I might have not passed one of my exams for my finals, which if I have failed, means I wont graduate this year.. but next year. I sat down at the table at the finals and my mind just went blank, and speaking to other people who took the exam i can conclude that it doesnt look that great.. :S :S

I dont really know how to feel, this is probably the first real, real setback in my life.. I know I spent enough time on it, but I just couldnt recall.. And now I still have to do a re-sit for Spanish in 5 hours and I just feel sh*t.

:S
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on July 07, 2014, 10:08
I might have not passed one of my exams for my finals, which if I have failed, means I wont graduate this year.. but next year. I sat down at the table at the finals and my mind just went blank, and speaking to other people who took the exam i can conclude that it doesnt look that great.. :S :S

I dont really know how to feel, this is probably the first real, real setback in my life.. I know I spent enough time on it, but I just couldnt recall.. And now I still have to do a re-sit for Spanish in 5 hours and I just feel sh*t.

:S

these things happen, butclear the mind and focus

ps the like was a support like rather than a like of the info in the post :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on July 07, 2014, 10:12
oh Havy :hugs

Exams can be stressful and that isnt an uncommon reaction.

Can you do a resit? 

Do you think its possible you passed?   

I so remember that feeling.  Walking out of one of my final exams - last semester of last year - knowing that I had not answered enough questions to pass.  Spending an awful 3 weeks wondering how on earth to tell my parents that I needed another semester as I would not get my degree     :(

I ended up passing (albeit with 53%) .. they must have scaled everyone up as I was pretty certain I had failed.


Its not over till you get the results.   Keeping fingers crossed for you
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on July 07, 2014, 10:22
Well.. this was the resit, I failed the first time with 54%. With 55% being the requirement to pass. It might be possible to pass, but I honestly doubt it. The test was compromised of 6 questions, with a total of 100 points.

One question of 10 points, two of 15, and 3 of 20 points. I know I have the 10 points question for sure. One of the 15 points and I have around 80% of one of the 20 points questions. The rest Im not certain of. So that leaves me at a max of 41 points, should I have those correct and he gives me all the points I think I have..

I didnt have one of the 15% questions, I just couldtn remember that one, and when I walked out, I knew it again. So that leaves me needing around 15 to 20 points from the last two 20 points questions, which im not certain of I have them correctly answered.




The most frustrating part was that the prof deducted points from my first test because I wrote bulletpoints. Which, if he wasnt such a flipping asshole, I wouldve passed if he didnt do that.. Just makes me sad.. :S
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Eric on July 14, 2014, 11:05
This flipping job man

I put in 2 hours of work today and earned $5. Two hours of assessing 400 different websites in the space of a few seconds and then rating them. It's so mentally draining, since I started work today, I swear I've lost about 30 IQ points. sh*t is turning my brain into mush and paying a quarter of what my old Pizza Hut job (which was actually an illegal job - I was paid below minimum wage by the corrupt :censored of an owner). I should quit, work like this unless it's very heavily rewarding (last year this sh*t paid by the hour, $25 for an hour on the internet!) is not fit for humans to do.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: kabloemski on July 14, 2014, 15:41
Sorry to hear that, Eric! Keep looking! Something's gotta give  :S
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Sizzle on July 25, 2014, 04:04
Our cat went missing on Monday. This is more a wail than a vent.  :we all gonna die:

We moved house recently so we're worried about unknown hazards and that she won't find her way home.  :we all gonna die:

Many people have told us about their cat going missing for a week or more and then turning up on the doorstep hungry and dirty and a bit thinner. So we're hopeful our Tottie will do the same.

And we're heartened by the fact that we haven't had any "bad news" phone calls from Council or the microchipping people.

We miss her terribly.  :we all gonna die:

Come home little Tottie !!!!!
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Caruut on July 25, 2014, 04:37
I might have not passed one of my exams for my finals, which if I have failed, means I wont graduate this year.. but next year. I sat down at the table at the finals and my mind just went blank, and speaking to other people who took the exam i can conclude that it doesnt look that great.. :S :S

I dont really know how to feel, this is probably the first real, real setback in my life.. I know I spent enough time on it, but I just couldnt recall.. And now I still have to do a re-sit for Spanish in 5 hours and I just feel sh*t.

:S

I failed my second year exams at uni two years ago and had to leave and start elsewhere. The bolded is pretty much exactly what was in my head at the time. One of my teachers, who I had been very close to, said something to me which helped me somewhat. She told me that it might be a blessing in disguise to have experienced a true setback at this time. She said that it if it went on much longer, I might never learn how to handle them, before telling me the rather morbid story of a friend of hers who had been enormously successful up until he was about 40, when, he got divorced. Nothing had really gone that badly wrong for him up until then, so he didn't know how to deal with it and hit the bottle.

For me, that process of getting back to my feet and rebuilding my life after two years was basically wiped out is part of who I am now.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Tuart on July 25, 2014, 05:10
Our cat went missing on Monday. This is more a wail than a vent.  :we all gonna die:

We moved house recently so we're worried about unknown hazards and that she won't find her way home.  :we all gonna die:

Many people have told us about their cat going missing for a week or more and then turning up on the doorstep hungry and dirty and a bit thinner. So we're hopeful our Tottie will do the same.

And we're heartened by the fact that we haven't had any "bad news" phone calls from Council or the microchipping people.

We miss her terribly.  :we all gonna die:

Come home little Tottie !!!!!

Aww Siz! :hug

You must be so worried. Out cat went missing for a few days once. It got "trapped" in a neighbours shed by their little girl. No idea how he survived, was very feral afterwards taking him home though.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on July 25, 2014, 06:23
aww Siz

Hope she comes home soon   
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on July 25, 2014, 13:02
Best wishes for Tottie, and the Sizzle family! :hug
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on October 29, 2014, 13:21
Monday night I had dinner and then went down to the street to wash my bike. It's time for the biannual bike swap, which means the Look comes upstairs and the Wilier goes downstairs.

Got the bike clean then came back up and started out on a five-hour BBC documentary called The Death of Yugoslavia. I read the book some months ago and, now that I've been to Bosnia, I wanted to see the show itself. Anyways, I wondered if it was due to the intricacies of Balkan geopolitics, but I started to feel a bit rough.

So I went to bed early then woke up yesterday morning and spent half the day with my head in the toilet. Couldn't even keep down a few sips of water. I returned to bed and felt seasick just laying there. It was horrible.

Well, you know what happens when you're sick, delirious and alone. You tend to get a bit paranoid.

I was thinking: I've been through an airport or three lately, went to a gig last Friday attended by a whole lot of Africans, started with a sudden sickness ten days after getting home. So I checked out the Ebola symptoms, many of which I had. That said, these symptoms are common - vomiting, heavy and painful limbs, headaches, weakness, lack of appetite - plus, I didn't (yet) have any bruising or bleeding out of the eyes.

Anyway, today I feel a lot better. Still crap, generally, but able to lube my bike and put it on the stand in my living room before having a coffee and some cake, both of which have stayed down. So, no sign of Ebola just yet then... ;)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on November 06, 2014, 10:07
In Belgium, when you move to a new gemeente / commune / locality you have to register with the local administrative office. There's a process which includes a visit from the cops and ends with you being fully registered as a resident.

Where I live now, this simple process has become ridiculously long. What shouldn't take much longer than a couple of weeks has been more than a couple of months. I've been here since the end of August, the cops have been and gone and I am still not properly registered.

So much for Belgian administration but one corollary is that I now have an unanticipated problem. My driving licence has expired.

Issued in the UK many moons ago, the plastic card has a fixed date of expiry and if you're resident outside the UK when it expires, you have to renew it wherever you are. Effectively, I have to apply for a Belgian driving licence.

Except I can't, because I don't exist. I am no longer on my previous locality's register but I am (still) not on the register my new locality. So until the idiots get their act together in small town Flanders, I can't drive.

I went to see Mrs Dopey Parochial Mini-Hitler at the local admin office and she told me that I would have to apply to the UK to get a temporary licence extension but that could take a while, of course. And then when they (finally) process my registration here, I can do it through the proper channel.

I told her, I wouldn't be in this position if you people didn't take three months to process a couple of forms.

She just shrugged her shoulders and rolled her eyes.

Grrrrr.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: krabkakes on November 06, 2014, 14:04
Bureaucracy seems to function the same everywhere regardless of type of government   :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on November 28, 2014, 08:01
1st off I think Thanksgiving is a great tradition,  for Americans and those living there, same as Canadian Thanksgiving was great when I lived there, and I think of my friends from those years around that time brilliant.

In the states they have Black Friday sales which I guess seems tombe the start of Christmas madness, and 1 or 2 walmart shootings over some item that in 79% off, which is they way it is if you are American, or living in the states

Thanksgiving and Black Friday sales



why the flip is Sweden having black Friday sales then, the over commercialisation of society is going to be the death of us. Christmas suff will start coming out in july soon  :angry

but black Friday sales jesus weep
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on November 28, 2014, 09:22
(long story)
... I've been here since the end of August, the cops have been and gone and I am still not properly registered.

On the cusp of December and this is still the case. Wrote to the cops and their response (after a week) was "it is still being processed".
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on November 28, 2014, 09:32

Thanksgiving and Black Friday sales

why the flip is Sweden having black Friday sales then, the over commercialisation of society is going to be the death of us. Christmas suff will start coming out in july soon  :angry

but black Friday sales jesus weep

Apparently it's been happening in the UK (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30241459) too. Rowdy jostling and police called. Money, money, money.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on December 15, 2014, 22:05
I'm not venting today but someone else is:

A general strike today here in Belgium, where this naïve form of social extortion still thrives among the unions, the difference between which seems only to be in their choice of brightly coloured flags, much like the Byzantine chariot mobs that torched Constantinopolis in the sixth century.

Hopefully you'll see a(n unrestricted) little video by which I was rather captivated today. The lady in the video, who is Secretary-General of the union that carries an Orange flag and wears matching Orange raincoats, was incensed to discover a clothing store in the Walloon town of Namur ignoring the strike / disobeying the strike / exercising free will and this was her response.

"I don't care!" she shouts, presumably as a response to all the jaws that have dropped around her, but clearly she does.

"This isn't the sort of thing I normally do," she declares when confronted, "I don't like to do this", but clearly she does.



Note the young child behind her who is in the process of being schooled in the fine and long-established art of fruitless civil disobedience, in which this fine nation specialises, although we are told that the shop later closed for a time. Also, off to the side, are representatives of the Green union, who wear Green coats, but are either too modest, scared or underfunded either to carry flags or to step inside non-striking clothing stores.

I myself stood for twenty minutes at a tram stop this afternoon before realising I'd become probably one of the last fools in the country today to fail to remember that there was a strike in force. I gave up any attempt to go about my business and repaired home forthwith to plan my next move which was, as it transpired, to prepare a ratatouille.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: search on December 15, 2014, 22:14
sometimes the people in Germany would like to strike as well - but most often they fall short of time to do so as they've got to go to work unfortunately :P
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: froome19 on December 15, 2014, 22:18
There were a number of NUT strikes over the last couple of years which does not mean I was hit by a hard shell on the head, but rather that school ended up closed after the Teachers Unions decided enough was enough...

Definitely a series of strikes I for one did not complain about..
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on December 15, 2014, 22:30
sometimes the people in Germany would like to strike as well - but most often they fall short of time to do so as they've got to go to work unfortunately :P

There were a number of NUT strikes over the last couple of years which does not mean I was hit by a hard shell on the head, but rather that school ended up closed after the Teachers Unions decided enough was enough...

Definitely a series of strikes I for one did not complain about..

The Occupy movement is the only socioeconomic protest that actually had the right target. These Orange, Red and Green people kill the public transport and picket small businesses, thereby affecting ordinary people, but they have zero to catcall about the financial sh*theels whose gross concrete piles are just a few streets away.

The idea, they would argue, is that pressure needs to be applied to the government and awareness generated in the general public.

Well, I think the public is aware and the rest of us are being squeezed too. Meanwhile governments have shown themselves unwilling to do anything serious about financial markets, which is why free pass moneyscum like Juncker and Hill are running Europe.

For the multi-billionth time: if corporations paid fair taxes and speculators didn't walk away with taxpayers' money and impunity to shore up the consequences of their own rampant greed, then pressure on the government would be the least of our problems.

The money for education, social welfare, health and so on was there, folks. They just stole it from you and, as a generation or two of society, you let them do it. So now, late to the party, you behave like ignorant reactionaries, only waking up out of your self-satisfied stupor and getting irate a decade too late and hitting the very people whose grassroots support you seek.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on December 16, 2014, 23:38
Hopefully you'll see a(n unrestricted) little video by which I was rather captivated today. The lady in the video, who is Secretary-General of the union that carries an Orange flag and wears matching Orange raincoats, was incensed to discover a clothing store in the Walloon town of Namur ignoring the strike / disobeying the strike / exercising free will and this was her response.

"I don't care!" she shouts, presumably as a response to all the jaws that have dropped around her, but clearly she does.

"This isn't the sort of thing I normally do," she declares when confronted, "I don't like to do this", but clearly she does.



Note the young child behind her who is in the process of being schooled in the fine and long-established art of fruitless civil disobedience, in which this fine nation specialises, although we are told that the shop later closed for a time. Also, off to the side, are representatives of the Green union, who wear Green coats, but are either too modest, scared or underfunded either to carry flags or to step inside non-striking clothing stores.

The politicised drayhorse in this video, or union leader Raymonde Le Lepvrier as she was named at birth, has certainly stirred a uniontastic hornet's nest with her anarchic dispatch of saleable clothing during Belgium's yesterday's general total strike yesterday.

In a twist of lemon-flavoured and -shaped fate or irony or something, the offended shop manager happens to be a union member herself. "There's no way I'm going to keep paying this woman's salary," she complained, "The rights of everyone have to be respected. We're not going to bring about change by stopping people working."

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2ephx78.jpg)

Over seventeen thousand signatures have been signed by users typing on over seventeen thousand keyboards, demanding that Mme Le Lepvrier be sanctioned. "We are not looking for her to be fired," claims the author of the petition, "we think that the union's image has been tarnished and this is not good for our future activities. She has committed acts in her own name and must assume the consequences."

With some general notions of the truth from http://www.lesoir.be/736105/article/actualite/belgique/2014-12-16/gerante-du-commerce-menacee-par-setca-namur-je-vais-changer-syndicat (FR)
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 05, 2015, 14:29
Not a vent as such but a philosophical moment.

Yours truly returned to work today for the first time in 14 months. I had thought originally that I wouldn't go back, but I had a change of plan rather than a change of heart.

I could have probably lived on my own money for another two years but I decided to save the remainder for a future project and go back to the grindstone while moonlighting on some personal projects.

It is a long story how I ended up back home again by 13:00 today but suffice it to say that my employer wasn't ready for me. :D
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on January 06, 2015, 00:09
lol

but are you ready for them?

going back to work must be a bit of a shock to the system
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 06, 2015, 00:11
lol

but are you ready for them?

going back to work must be a bit of a shock to the system

Not really, AG, but thanks for asking. :) I have been getting ready for this in my head since November and I have different goals this time around. My extra-curricular activities are likely to be the main focus of my interests in the future.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Drummer Boy on January 06, 2015, 01:32
Yours truly returned to work today for the first time in 14 months. I had thought originally that I wouldn't go back...

Ever?  :S

Or to that specific job?
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 06, 2015, 09:38
Ever?  :S

Or to that specific job?

Somewhere in between, I guess. Unfortunately, I couldn't afford not to go back at some point. The job itself is immaterial now though, as long as it pays the bills.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on January 18, 2015, 07:32
FFS    I am over it.    :hb



If you dont like the way I am doing something - DO something about it.

I am the person who is prepared to liaise with people to organise this, prepared to give MY name and address to a random company, receive goods and post them to others so that YOU the members might get a free jersey - so critizising and whingeing that you arent being consulted over the design of said free jersey is fairly peeing me off.


Personally, I havent been prepared to spend hours of my time designing and consulting with lots of members, negotiating a design that everyone likes ... because a) I actually dont mind the plain jersey, and mostly b) I dont have the time to spend on something that might not happen when getting a consensus on a design is damn near impossible.   If someone else does - go for your life.


Whatever - its time to Put Up or Shut Up.



If you arent prepared to ACTUALLY do something - STFU and stop criticizing me


If you are - fantastic  (but please do it in a way that wont F@#$ me off even more ;) )


_______________________________________________________

If you want to actually do something .... here is what to do


1 - send me a friendly pm

"hey AG, some people dont really like the jersey you have proposed much, so do you mind if we try and come up with a consensus for something else?"

2 - design some alternatives (Flo has made a good start on that)

3 - set up a poll and direct the discussion to get people to agree on something else

4 - if you come up with a majority of members who agree with a design ... send me another pm

"Hey AG, in this thread (link) most of the members really like this design much better that the plain one.  If it hasnt been settled already, can we propose to use that one instead?"


Remember that the people doing this appear to be looking to move forward with this, so we dont have a LOT of time to argue between everyone and get a consensus  ....  (which is why I only consulted a minimum of members to get a decision in the first place) ... so if you want something different, best get on with it.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on January 18, 2015, 07:40
Wrong thread, buti would like to thank AG for taking the lead on this, with laz helping.

others are AWOL, we might get a free jeresy with our logo on it. Which is cool. We can still design our own and argue about but free stuff which is custom for us. I wouldn't complain
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 18, 2015, 11:03
I don't want to draw this out even longer but let me just say that we should be ashamed of ourselves for peeing off AG enough to write the above post.

The Team Velorooms thread was fun because it was ridiculous, nobody was going to reach an agreement on a jersey that way, and for me that was the whole point. It's been the same with the Velorooms Meetup, albeit for different reasons. Likewise, I took care of the thankless task of Bingo last year and handled the prizes myself and I got a lot of sh*t for that, not all of which was entirely good-natured I should add.

It was always going to be the case that, if a jersey was going to happen, one or two people would have to make a unilateral decision to organise it, so y'all quit moaning now. If you don't want one, that's cool.

So this jersey is going to happen: straight blue without the horizontal stripes and it will be timeless because of its simplicity. It will be super good just because it will finally exist. That will be an achievement unto itself.

I've volunteered to be post boy if required, and we'll have a further discussion, not about the jersey itself, but about the logistics of how many, who, when and where.

:hug
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Flo on January 18, 2015, 11:09
Fair enough. Will have to save money for a Tinkoff-Saxo kit then.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on January 18, 2015, 23:42
I think its pretty clear I was having a pretty crappy day yesterday   :lol


anyway - I am over my little 8 yr old temper tantrum now :fp
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on January 19, 2015, 08:32
So here goes

Daughter sick so we had 8 days of even less sleep

Get to Cabin of Friday - I go to clean a little and orgainise while the family hangs out with G-Mother

find water on the bathroom floor, think hmm weird, it looks like it is coming from the toilet so take a look, lift off the top to find the plastic is broken in their, but not the issue but now we need a new toilet and it is friday night I then clean a little thinking where the hell is the water coming from and walk back in with new eyes, to look up to see water coming in a roof vent.

So I take it down  the roof insulation is a little wet

Ring to the wife she is sent to buy a new toilet, G-Mother gets a 4 year old and a 4 week old to look after, G-Mother man comes down to help, we remove the broken sh*tter, I climb the snow covered roof in the dark to clear the snow to see the issue - we have a leak through the metal around the vent pipe  :angry

Wife arrives -  new toilet in, I fixed the issue with the roof I hope over the next 2 days when the paster and wood in the roof is dry and replace the insulation -  will look further in summer

Last night whole family sleep great except me up until 2 am feeling sh*t, no sleep, pain in my back and Daughter snooring  :lol. anyways 3 rd feed at 5.30 so I gt up anyway

feel like a truck ran over me
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 19, 2015, 08:46
... we have a leak through the metal around the vent pipe  :angry

After reading through this litany of small disasters and the self-flagellating tragedy to which it amounts and for which JSG deserves praise, sympathy, affection, not to mention a hot cup of tea spiked with whiskey and a day in bed, all I can think is ... how extraordinary it is that this has become quite literally a thread about venting.
:P :lol :cool :hug
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Havetts on January 19, 2015, 21:30
Over the last few days my mother and dad have had lots of falling outs over the smallest things, and all that pressure has been boiling up since the day that I didnt pass a test and my internship to graduate wasnt the good one in the end. Basically every day has been frustrating since that day  and finding an internship after that has been extremely hard. Me failing my test means that I will have to start my final subject in am onth.

I've been applying to internships almost every single day but I either hear nothing back or the position has been taken or the company isnt interested in an internee, I've even applied to the most pointless things just for the 0.00001% chance they'd accept me as an internship. My parents are extremely frustrated at me sitting at home and not earning any money or doing else than "vegetating in your bedroom" (dad's words, not mine :-x). I've been able to live off my own savings for a really long time, and am almost at the end of my savings, which makes this whole sitiuation even more frustrating.

But I'm sitting here being frustrated. When we visited my uncle & aunt and my cousins a few weeks ago I saw my cousin, Kevin. And he and I always get along very well and we have the same exact mindset, we do the same kind of things and have almost the same hobbies. Eventhough he was born in Australia and not from my uncle. Brother from another mother from another family I'd almost say. But he is/was in the same situation as I am/was. He didnt graduate until his 6th year because he took a one year break from school.

But his parents put a lot of pressure onto him and when he finally graduated he only got a job after a long time and recently hes been fired from that job because of the cuts made to the sector he worked in. And now he has been sitting at home, applying every day to jobs he doesnt even have a chance at but applying solely for that desperate chance.

And he has slipped into a depression heavily, a few months ago it started and he looked really "terrible" when we saw him, huge bags underneath his eyes, everytime we spoke to him he had to snap into the conversation. And that really frightened me, and now the last few days I started to kind of feel hopeless too.. When ive never in my life felt like that before, I always looked at the positive side of things. But lately that has been somewhat hard.

Anyways, to snap back to the start, lots of frustrations tonight again between my mom and me because she was still peeed at my dad and still peeed off at me.

Whoever read it until here, you are awesome I guess :). Im not typing this because I want pity, i just want to voice my frustrations and I want a goddamn job/internship so I can flipping finish this horrible university degree and be done with this sh*t and work full time. Now going to find something to hit until I feel better.

:-x

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Drummer Boy on January 19, 2015, 21:48
Now going to find something to hit until I feel better.

Just keep hitting that Enter key, Havy. Writing down your thoughts can be helpful and healing, and sharing them even more so, at times.

These last few years for me have been both dark and difficult. By far the most trying of my entire life. On top of all that, I had my heart broken into a thousand tiny pieces more than a year ago, and I'm still in the process of trying to reclaim my inner-self from all that pain.

But life can change so quickly—in an instant. One phone call, email, or chance encounter, and suddenly opportunities can appear.

I'm the last person that any one should probably ever take advice from, but maybe try to take advantage of the time available to you right now to do things that won't be as readily accessible once you do find that job.

Just look at L'arri. No more horse riding for him now that he's stationed behind a desk!  :P
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 19, 2015, 22:02
Hehehe, but you know, the desk is my horse and the office is my desert, because I went out there and did it. I've got that now. It's like Steinbeck said: the best thing in life is commission and the worst thing is omission.

Hav, I know it doesn't help much, but lots of us have been there, where you are. Families under pressure. And you are going to make it through.

It's like that diagram, the geological one they showed you at school, with all the layers of sand and soil and dinosaur bones.

With each new period in your life, the earlier ones compress a little bit more and what seemed huge and insurmountable becomes smaller and more compact with the perspective of time. But much better than that, the meaning and value of those periods gets squeezed out for you to make use of later.

In the meantime, as DB says, just keep talking it out, whenever that works for you, because right now this is just another of those things that will make a Superhav out of you in the longer term. And nobody is going to suggest you should shut up. Everything you're feeling is just as valid as your parents' or anyone else's feelings.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: AG on January 19, 2015, 23:27
:hug Havy

I hope you find something soon
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on January 21, 2015, 18:16
flip, just realized I mixed up two terms in my exam last week, due to the fact that the exam was in Dutch, while I know these terms better in English, and due to this I know I made quite a few mistakes, I probably failed that course. I am actually almost certain I failed it, I suck  :(
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 21, 2015, 19:08
flip, just realized I mixed up two terms in my exam last week, due to the fact that the exam was in Dutch, while I know these terms better in English, and due to this I know I made quite a few mistakes, I probably failed that course. I am actually almost certain I failed it, I suck  :(

Dude, this is a mere blip. I forgot to attend the last exam of my law degree. :P

As Fate would have it, there was a bunch of visiting Malaysians who had a diary clash so they got to sit this same exam a week later and after a lot of bowing and scraping, I blagged a seat at the back of that room.

Amazingly, this 'private session' wasn't even monitored and in the absence of any staff the Malaysians made unlimited use of their lecture notes. Being a "Brits don't dope" kind of kid who just assumed cheating wouldn't be tolerated, I hadn't even bothered to bring my lecture notes.

I passed anyway, and with a high grade at that.

So the moral of the story is contained somewhere in a thought that just stepped out for a cigarette, but I guess in the scheme of your whole life, I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on January 21, 2015, 19:49
Dude, this is a mere blip. I forgot to attend the last exam of my law degree. :P

As Fate would have it, there was a bunch of visiting Malaysians who had a diary clash so they got to sit this same exam a week later and after a lot of bowing and scraping, I blagged a seat at the back of that room.

Amazingly, this 'private session' wasn't even monitored and in the absence of any staff the Malaysians made unlimited use of their lecture notes. Being a "Brits don't dope" kind of kid who just assumed cheating wouldn't be tolerated, I hadn't even bothered to bring my lecture notes.

I passed anyway, and with a high grade at that.

So the moral of the story is contained somewhere in a thought that just stepped out for a cigarette, but I guess in the scheme of your whole life, I wouldn't worry about it.

Oh I know, but I tend to enlarge every problem I have :P
But really I am trying to get my stuff together for my exam of tomorrow and I just realized how many things I did wrong, simply due to the fact that I suck at Dutch, which tomorrow will again be a problem. I know it's probably not as bad, nor is there anything I can do about it, but I can't help but feel absolutely terrible about it, even though as you say it's just a blip and nothing really to worry about. But I just hate these oral exams where you can get tripped up quite easily because the Belgian education style sucks
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on January 23, 2015, 13:23
And now for something completely else:
Why are so many Blegians I come across, even the higher educated ones, just openly racists, the amount of 'jokes' I've heard about black people, muslims and a lot of other ethnicities over the last few months is shocking. And no-one mentions it, no-one seems amazed.

And it's not like I'm too sensitive to this thing, far from it, but it really is amazing
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 23, 2015, 15:50
And now for something completely else:
Why are so many Blegians I come across, even the higher educated ones, just openly racists, the amount of 'jokes' I've heard about black people, muslims and a lot of other ethnicities over the last few months is shocking. And no-one mentions it, no-one seems amazed.

And it's not like I'm too sensitive to this thing, far from it, but it really is amazing

I think the attitude toward ethnic minorities here is, in my opinion, pretty much the same as in many other Western European countries, it's just that Belgians see no reason to censure themselves over it. In a twisted sort of way, you have to admire them for that.

I was as surprised about the open expressions of racism as I was about the appalling standard of driving, but in both cases it is just a bit of mild culture shock. Indeed you get used to it, even while I am not saying it is right, nor do I share such views myself. It just gets less and less shocking to hear it.

What I think is fascinating is that you can come to a new country and hear this sort of bile which perfectly resembles the bile you'd hear (albeit in private) back in the old country and yet, due to the different histories of empire, it will be directed at minorities of which you the foreigner have not a scrap of knowledge or experience.

This 'same argument, different target' phenomenon proves what specious rubbish it is to blame minorities for European society's problems.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: barrus on January 23, 2015, 19:44
I think the attitude toward ethnic minorities here is, in my opinion, pretty much the same as in many other Western European countries, it's just that Belgians see no reason to censure themselves over it. In a twisted sort of way, you have to admire them for that.

I was as surprised about the open expressions of racism as I was about the appalling standard of driving, but in both cases it is just a bit of mild culture shock. Indeed you get used to it, even while I am not saying it is right, nor do I share such views myself. It just gets less and less shocking to hear it.

What I think is fascinating is that you can come to a new country and hear this sort of bile which perfectly resembles the bile you'd hear (albeit in private) back in the old country and yet, due to the different histories of empire, it will be directed at minorities of which you the foreigner have not a scrap of knowledge or experience.

This 'same argument, different target' phenomenon proves what specious rubbish it is to blame minorities for European society's problems.

To be honest, to me it isn't the same. It's not like you can say Dutch people don't speak their minds or are subtle about what they say. And sure in private more is said, more jokes are made. But still, it just goes so much further than I am used to back home, even what is said in private back home.

The amount of times I have heard people refer to black people as monkeys for example, it's shocking. I don't know almost anyone back in the Netherlands who would even think of doing that. And here again, it's not like there aren't jokes made about black people in the Netherlands, but referring to them as monkeys is absolutely appalling.

Of course I can't talk about the whole of the Netherlands, but the people i know and where I am from would certainly be shocked about the utterances made here.

Sure jokes are made about muslims back home as well. But the bile and the mean spiritness about the comments here is shocking
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Drummer Boy on January 27, 2015, 17:19
People are dumb. They are really f'cking dumb.

We've been absolutely INUNDATED with news of this approaching Blizzard. Hyperbolic warnings and predictions showed no restraint.

And then...and then...it snowed. A bit. In New England. In the winter.

That's all it did. If not for all the hysteria, I would've woken to just another day with a bit of snow to shovel. But I can't go anywhere because the roads are closed. I could receive a fine for simply driving right now. Everything is closed. Except there's no reason for that. It's FINE outside. No wind, no more snow, no nothing.

I could go on and on, but the whole circus was summed up beautifully by one local news "reporter." There she was, braving the elements, reiterating to all her viewers just how dangerous it was to be out doors. The temperatures! The wind chill! The poor visibility!

And then she offered this timeless bit of wisdom, "And if you don't believe me, just download our weather App — blah, blah, blah..."

Yes, why bother with any of that pesky empirical evidence? Don't bother to step outside yourself! No, no, no! Just download the App from the appointed news channel, and allow your smartphone to then tell you just how f'cking dumb you are.
 :S

People are morons. One guy on the local news was having the time of his life overseeing the station's social networking—Facebook, Twitter, etc. He said the most common question people were asking was, "Can I go outside and start shoveling?"

Of course it would be impossible to determine such things on one's own. If not through social networking, how could one ever arrive at an answer to such elusive questions?

Oh, but there was a power outage! Yes indeed! The sure sign that an apocalyptic moment had arrived! NO POWER!

However, it was only in one small part, of one small town. The culprit? A snowplow had run into a power line pole. :fp

People are dumb. So much so, that I'm amazed we are able to operate a functioning society at all.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on January 27, 2015, 20:18
Massive huff

Can I say that I deeply approved of that post? That was a fundamentally sound bit of prose there.  :P

You should really watch the British anthology series Black Mirror, DB, I think you would love it.

It is a sometimes terrifying look at how society might become just a few years from now if we continue to sell out to all this stupid technology. No two episodes share the same characters or storylines, so you can just jump in and watch any of them.

If you can stand burned in Spanish subbies, there's one sneaking around now. See it while it's there. Personally recommended by your old pal L'arri...  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tMXKQdc5ZM
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: froome19 on January 28, 2015, 17:08
As some of you may have noticed I haven't been on here much past week and a half..

The reasons is as my Laptop has been broken..broken DC Power Jack for those that know much about this stuff.
I phoned a repair company up two Sundays ago and they told me they'd have it fixed by the end of the week at the very latest, they would get back with full details by Monday. Come Monday and I haven't heard from them, same on Tuesday despite constant phone calls and emails. I get through on Wednesday and they tell me they'll send someone on Saturday. Come the appointed time and I am left waiting, only to contact them on Sunday and find out they were unable to make it. We will send you a list of times for rescheduling now, they send the list on Monday and there is a slot on Tuesday which I take, at 6:30 Tuesday evening I am left waiting and no one arrives. At this point I didn't really want to hear the excuse... All this after I cancelled appointments with other repair companies due to this particular companies commitments.


And all this whilst I have had a hugely important Coursework assignment to complete, every waking moment in which a computer becomes available I've had to work on the Coursework leaving me no time for Velorooms..

And having said all that they still have not come and my laptop remains broken.

And the cycling season has just started


 :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: just some guy on February 20, 2015, 07:15
Take away Shane and Cycling Tips is the same turd it was before

that is all
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on February 24, 2016, 10:35
Gets up earlier than usual to be ready for meeting at 10.

Learns of massive traffic problem on the usual route to the office.

Successfully avoids all issues by leaving earlier, taking longer route and reaches office at 9:50.

Waits in empty office.

Sends a few texts.

Waits.

And waits.

Leaves still empty office at 10:45.

Drives home and dumps car far away due to parking restrictions.

Receives email at 11:30.

"Am in a meeting. Can you come in at 13:00?"

:angry

Thinks: "it's a dry day. I want to ride my bike"

Replies: "Not before 15h"

 :s
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Joelsim on February 24, 2016, 10:39
Gets up earlier than usual to be ready for meeting at 10.

Learns of massive traffic problem on the usual route to the office.

Successfully avoids all issues by leaving earlier, taking longer route and reaches office at 9:50.

Waits in empty office.

Sends a few texts.

Waits.

And waits.

Leaves still empty office at 10:45.

Drives home and dumps car far away due to parking restrictions.

Receives email at 11:30.

"Am in a meeting. Can you come in at 13:00?"

:angry

Thinks: "it's a dry day. I want to ride my bike"

Replies: "Not before 15h"

 :s

That's just plain rude.

Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on February 24, 2016, 10:59
Story of getting to office in time for a then-unattended meeting
Dickheads.
Think they're God's gift to the earth, and that everybody will wait for them. :-x
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: l29205 on April 15, 2016, 21:26
Well after five months of being employed, fighting the fact that my 30 years of IT experience kills me in two ways.  First, I can't get a senior level position because I don't have a degree (which didn't exist in the late 80s).  Second, I can't get a junior level position because they think I will just job hop to a more senior position (they would not be wrong).

So after 30 years, I have finally decided that my best option is to return to college and complete my engineering degree.  It will only cost me $500K in lost wages over 4 years (not that I am making any money now) and a bit of tuition.  My life sucks right now.   
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on February 17, 2018, 07:43
At first, I thought this story was appalling and then I actually tried to imagine it for comedic value beyond the obvious ugliness and eventually found it hilarious.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/17/cruise-ship-on-which-big-brawl-broke-out-to-dock-in-melbourne

First world problems and all that but for the last few weeks my new neighbour has been consistently breaking the law with his home improvement activities. Since he took possession he has gutted the place but because he works and he doesn't want to pay for professionals, he has to do this in his own time, which is of course the time when everyone else is also at home.

The other day I decided I had enough. I had just got into bed at around 22:00 (or 10pm for y'all in the States) on a schoolnight with a library copy of Lord Jim when he started picking off tiles with a hammer, a task he has turned into a multi-day stage race.

Full of steam, I went out there and told him that he had waded deep into a swamp of illegality and neighbourly disrespect and I warned him to extricate himself forthwith, or words to that effect. To my amazement, he shut his door, double locked it and shouted these words: "Go ahead and call the police!"

The hammering stopped mercifully but in the tranquil silence that followed, I found that I could not join Conrad on the high seas because I was still shorebound pondering this rather strange reaction from my neighbour.

The conundrum was eventually resolved the next day by a chance encounter between the errant neighbour and another acquaintance of mine. He explained that he had thought I might be the associate of another neighbour from downstairs.

You see, the other week, when he had embarked on his own voyage into the unknown, namely DIY plumbing, our timid neighbour promptly caused a massive leak that made one room of the apartment downstairs "rather damp".

Now the apartment downstairs is currently occupied by a vulnerable single mother in possession of what could be described as a plethora of highly protective male relatives, one of whom decided to pay a visit to our hapless plumber.

I am not, I must say, in the regular habit of wearing beanie hats indoors as is common with a certain section of the public here but that was a particularly cold evening when I was prevented from casting off with Conrad and I needed all the warmth I could obtain, unshaven and angry out in the corridor.

So I suppose the unfortunate neighbour feared that he was about to receive another blow to the nose and in his state of funk he did not think it strange that an archetypal hoodlum might weigh less than 80kg, speak English and spout a lot of nonsense about the articles of federal law pertaining to nuisance.
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: L'arri on March 14, 2018, 08:59
This is somewhat OT inasmuch as my vent here does relate to pro cycling. Having just mentioned one of our sport's most boring tropes (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=4843.msg2238540#msg2238540), I thought I would mention a couple of others. Feel free to add your own.

The easy one is that Tejay Van Garderen could still win a GT. I think even CN realises that it's become a silly joke but we still get stories of this sort. TJVG hype is like a zombie that will not die.

The one that really bugs me right now though is the idea of fairness and rectitude in measuring the quality of a win, where the gold standard is any win by Peter Sagan.

Now fanboys (and presumably fangirls) are often the bane of any messageboard facility but the stench of fervent fandom is the sports equivalent of nationalistic sentiment in general society. It is ugly, ignorant, fed by the media and it's happening whether or not you like it.

Take this bit of self-serving, dog-whistle journalism for example:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/peter-sagan-and-kwiatkowski-in-a-war-of-words-before-milan-san-remo/

We'd already bobbed about on a similar ripple of silliness last week but because the protagonists were "only" Jérôme Cousin and Nils Politt in a cartoonish complot, we were spared the worst of the hysteria from the great unhosed.

Happily we no longer live in a time when pointing out that Cousin and Politt were respectively French and German would have started a digital riot but swap out these also-rans with two of the sport's vedettes and you have the raw materials of a hypetastic grudge match for the current age.

Cue a bunch of cretins who have unfortunately learned to type or thumb a screen unleashed on a non-topic that generates endless nonsense around a basic fact, namely that, barring a finish line controversy of the sort usually involving Mark Cavendish, the final result is what counts and only that.

For if it were up to some of these individuals, you would have to think that every race in our sport should be decided on how many metres a rider had spent on the front or, since that would bring a lot of logistical complexity, whether Sagan was on the start line.

Most of us, and I appeal to VR members here, we inhabit a time and place where and when we appreciate the unpredictable. We like the mix, the tactics and, to a lesser extent, we cautiously support the current obsession for revising parcours because only the prestige of the event matters, not the precise combination of roads on which it is run.

But you would think with some fans that they had staked their entire livelihoods on a particular formula of racing, where the sport is painted in comic book colours, that the riders are entirely good or bad and their behaviour reflects the profile these people have projected onto their heroes and villains.

Let's complete this waffly exercise with the experiment of reproducing a few quotes from the BTL comments on that article linked above. Taking them out of context should hopefully demonstrate how rabid they sound:

"Peter Sagan is the Donald Trump of cycling"

"You are just a bitter person refusing to accept your local hero Kwiatkowski will never achieve 3 WCRR titles in a row"

"Some people just race like losers."

"Sagan just admitted Little K is living in his head rent free."

"It's a matter of glory not playing by the rules."
Title: Re: The Venting Thread
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 24, 2018, 23:13
You should really watch the British anthology series Black Mirror, DB, I think you would love it.

Ya' know, at the time, this post didn't hold any meaning for me, other than piquing my curiosity a bit. The series wasn't available to a U.S. audience (as far as I know). But since some time last year the show has been gaining quite a bit of traction over here through Netflix, and I had totally forgotten about your suggestion until I stumbled across this post while searching for something else entirely.

I've now seen several episodes, and they are something to behold. It's definitely not "American television," and that's part of what makes it so intriguing. My favorite one so far, would have to be:
 Season 1, Episode 3 The Entire History of You.
It's a future that's not hard to imagine at all—alarming as that may be.

Great stuff.  :cool