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Title: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on December 20, 2012, 13:09
(http://d4nuk0dd6nrma.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/secretpro.jpg)


http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/12/the-secret-pro/ (http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/12/the-secret-pro/)

(http://d4nuk0dd6nrma.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/1309_CT_SecretPro_530x800_A-small.jpeg)

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/12/the-secret-pro-the-off-season/ (http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/12/the-secret-pro-the-off-season/)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 20, 2012, 13:17
Is this the same Secret Pro who writes in Cyclesport? If so his articles are generally very informative and well written..

Though if I looked through all the editions I could piece together who he is..
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on December 20, 2012, 13:20
Is this the same Secret Pro who writes in Cyclesport? If so his articles are generally very informative and well written..

Though if I looked through all the editions I could piece together who he is..

No idea tbh 
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 20, 2012, 13:28
Really like this  :D

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It’s disappointing too that people get on Twitter and speak their mind when they just don’t know. I use to room with a high profile rider and we were messing around one day by Googling his name. The first thing that came up with “*name of rider* doping”.  That’s absolutely horrible for him because he’s never ever had anything against him, and he’s a top guy, but that’s just how it is.
Good to see another someone from the peloton asides from JV at least make an effort, though difference from being an anonymous blogger and actually interacting on twitter..


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That’s not really fair on this generation of Pro’s, and I really think some of the journalists in the sport just don’t get it. They’re embarrassed by how they performed by the Lance Armstrong days and now they’ve just decided they’ll do a good job. It’s gonna take them a while to live that one down.

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On the topic of the UCI points structure, Katusha is obviously pretty upset that they didn’t get their World Tour license approved. I don’t know any more than anyone else, but honestly, how the hell did they ever expect get a license? A lot of their riders are under investigation and the peloton talk is that they’re not exactly the most trustworthy team. They’re not the only team that has the finger pointed at them either.  In cycling, where there’s smoke there’s fire.

Interesting to see this.

Seems to be supporting UCI which I respect..

Also he has already 1,600 twitter folllowers in just over a week I believe..
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Arb on December 20, 2012, 15:56
I go Farrar.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on December 20, 2012, 16:20
That said, this whole secret thing. I find it ironic that the outspoken fans get critisised or its said their opinion doesnt count because they hide behind anonymity. And yet a pro who could write an interesting blog (and theres nothing in that blog apart from the katyusha thing that couldnt be written publicly), writes under the condition of anonymity.

its a sad sign that the Omerta still clearly exists.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: cj2002 on December 20, 2012, 16:37
Dim, I see your point re: Omerta, but let me throw this link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/series/the-secret-footballer) out there for comparison.

The Secret Footballer was an extremely popular column in the Guardian for two or three years, and managed to keep his identity under wraps despite a number of people (http://www.whoisthesecretfootballer.co.uk) (as you have done) running down every column for clues.

I think it adds an air of mystique to the column, because you never know for sure whether you're reading the words of a world champion or bottle boy!

And following someone on Twitter doesn't stop it being them... it could be a red herring

(http://www.emotionalbuzz.com/img/redherrings.jpg)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: The Hitch on December 21, 2012, 23:11
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5875/secretpro.png)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on December 21, 2012, 23:24
I know who it is, and you'll never get it. Have a feeling it will be pretty obvious after two or three blogs.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on December 22, 2012, 00:28
grunt
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on December 22, 2012, 00:48
because nobody would read a blog by Christian Knees?!
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 22, 2012, 22:13
I know who it is, and you'll never get it. Have a feeling it will be pretty obvious after two or three blogs.
Really jealous  :P

Did you work it out.. or inside info?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Psych_ling on December 22, 2012, 22:38
Adam Hanson or Simon Clarke
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 22, 2012, 22:42
My first thought was Hansen but I am not so sure if he is Australian, as has been noted the grammar does possibly imply someone who's first language is not necessarily English

He seems to be a bit too experienced imo to be Clarke..

Though I would be really annoyed if he starts dropping false hints in order to maintain his anonymity :D

And also a big welcome  :wave Psychling hope you enjoy the forum..

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Psych_ling on December 22, 2012, 22:57
froome19 we all know about deception in cycling so it wouldn't surprise me if the language was a little 'skewed' to protect anonymity. Ok the guy is a domestique and young, although experienced, and with seemingly nothing to hide. My gut feeling is that is an Aussie rider....
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on December 22, 2012, 23:00
I dont think there are any false hints at all in the article, or his profile
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Psych_ling on December 22, 2012, 23:08
Dim, fair enough so assuming the article is to be taken on face value...that would make a change. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 22, 2012, 23:17
I agree indeed that it could all be deception especially as the whole idea is to protect the identity and as Dim has said after a couple of blogs we would probably be able to work it out easily enough.

If it is an Aussie then it is pretty easy to find as there are only around 30 Aussies in the WT (this must be a WT rider). Hansen would fit the mold, more so than Clarke though as a "grunt" rider..

Yet problem is that Hansen does not truly fit in with this:
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I can tell you a few things, but I won’t divulge any more. He is a Pro within the ranks of the top teams in world cycling. He has raced multiple Grand Tours, Classics and World Championships, and finished highly in some.
I believe that part is genuine at least.

Also the rider says he did not race in October and Hansen did.. though that could be a red herring tbh..

I have a very detailed interview I recently read with Hansen and hopefully tomorow I will go comparing.

Assuming the writer is Australian then it could be possibly (though they do not all fit into all criteria such as high placings)

Timothy Roe
Mathew Lloyd (though it would be bizzare and totally against anything I have ever read from him)
Henderson
Baden Cook
Mitchell Docker
Lancaster
Sulzberger
Brown
Cantwell
Roberts
Tanner
Hayman
Sutton

In truth I would doubt it is from Greenedge, but putting them down anyways..
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on December 22, 2012, 23:20
Also the rider says he did not race in October

I would say that part isnt entirely true.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 22, 2012, 23:22
So taking what Dim said and considering that:

Lancaster
Brown
Hayman

If it is to be an Aussie

Edit: Ah flip Dim now says the October part is not "necessarily true" that throws us of course again  :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 22, 2012, 23:28
Well thinking about it, would say that leaves us with..

Baden Cook
Lancaster
Brown
Cantwell
Roberts
Hayman

For the Aussies I think  :-[

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Psych_ling on December 22, 2012, 23:28
 froome19 thanks for that clarification..have to say am pretty impressed with my first visit here. Getting responses from the admin is very enlightening. It is the first forum I have visited where you get a sense of objectivity and a genuine feel that people are interested in straight talking rather than satire and nuance (which increasingly am getting sick of). So well done, I look forward to further discussions... :)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Psych_ling on December 22, 2012, 23:31
PS have to say I thought the October thing was clearly a red herring
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 22, 2012, 23:34
Great to hear Psychling.. to be honest I have always had an obsession with uncovering anonymous people's identities :-[ so I have no choice here but to dig up all the facts  :D

PS have to say I thought the October thing was clearly a red herring
I believe so, but I still think it rules anyone out who raced the Tour of Beijing. Though not Paris Tours or anyother races early on in that month.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on December 22, 2012, 23:39
I think you need to bear in mind some things might be lost in translation a little bit (one assumes its translated hence the ghost writer). Took October off, only raced Paris Tours where I was taking it easy, Ended the season in October, all pretty much the same tbh.

And welcome Physch_ling, good to have you on board.. somewhere to spill over our twitter convos. And my admin tag means very little, just means I get the server bill and fix stuff when it goes wrong :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Psych_ling on December 22, 2012, 23:47
 :) thanks guys, why didn't I know about velorooms long ago...and to realise I have been trying to get blood out of a stone from Dim, haha, great site and congrats, feel like I have come home....
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Psych_ling on December 22, 2012, 23:50
Need I remind you Dim that English speakers also use ghost writers (the list is long) so that may well be another red herring :)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on December 22, 2012, 23:57
Its not :P, or maybe it is :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Psych_ling on December 23, 2012, 00:35
 ::) you are so cruel..
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on December 23, 2012, 02:26
been on a plane but I think the rider is Steve Cummings

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on December 23, 2012, 04:05
been on a plane but I think the rider is Steve Cummings

but he did not ride paris-tours I do not think but did 2 GT and had an up and down year, hates doping etc do not why everyone thinks he must be an OZ plus has knowledge of Sky and BMC

 :-\
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 23, 2012, 11:20
Well you would think it is an Aussie cause its an Aussie website.. also he follows a couple of pros with the greatest quantity from any country being those of them coming from Aussieland..Also he is doing the TDU, not that means anything but more likely to be Aussie.

Oh and if it was Cummings then he follows himself which would be rather amusing  :D
Also Cummings is not racing TDU so I believe we can rule him out..

Only team he follows is BMC...
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 23, 2012, 13:49
Going on the logic that he raced Paris Tours that leaves us with:

Frederik Willems
Blel Kadri
Jerome Pineau
Gerald Ciolek
Gert Steegmans
Koen De Kort
Frohlinger
Geschke

Gone through everybody and discounted them all for one reason or another..
So not much to see there.. Btw Dim you are welcome to tell me if I have missed someone out somewhere in these posts :D

Oh and if Paris Tours was a red herring then :spank

Also when it says he has ridden world championships could that be reffering to the U23 WCs, because if so that would screw everything up? (I doubt it though)


So in conclusion I am very much confused.. :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: ram on December 23, 2012, 14:46
Of those three, it'd be a very simple choice.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 23, 2012, 14:49
Of those three, it'd be a very simple choice.
There is something bugging me about it.. but who do you think it is?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: ram on December 23, 2012, 14:53
Only one of them's in Australia at the moment, even raced today.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 23, 2012, 14:55
Indeed Koen I know. He was my first choice as well certainly, but as I said there is something bugging me about him (something I read over on CN, just can not remember what). Wanted to know what you thought first though. His website though, his views and his experiences and amount of GTs raced etc make him a likely candidate if you ask me though. He also depreciated doping as it made him miss out on the Tour with Astana and he generally is pretty vocal with opinions it seems.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 23, 2012, 15:06
Yep I knew I had read a post about De Kort on CN  :)

Here it is:

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Koen de Kort (the Dutch Argos-Shimano rider mentioned earlier) has an Aussie girlfriend, spends his summers in Melbourne, and has announced that he will write a series of "Q&A" type posts for the same blog under his real name. I very much doubt that he is the Secret Pro, as his friendship with Wade Wallace is well known and he'd be far too obvious a candidate.

For what it's worth my guess is that it's not an Aussie, and it may well not be a native English speaker at all.

As to his sentiments on doping, while I disagree with him (the fact is that riders have been doping since bike racing was invented, so if they're not doping much now that would be historically unprecedented) I'd still like to hear what he really thinks rather than get the PR-filtered version.

So here is his first article: http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/12/ask-koen-de-kort/ (http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/12/ask-koen-de-kort/)

He just started a couple of days before the secret pro, it would be ridiculously funny.. but I do not see it being true
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on December 23, 2012, 22:56
been on a plane but I think the rider is Steve Cummings
Read Cyclesport today and was thinking after all this who the anonymous rider who writes in it could be.. Now I am pretty convinced the anon rider there is Cummings. In my mind it certainly fits. Reading it you see the glaring contrast between the "secret pro" which is decent but the anon rider is considerably better and more interesting..

Actually just checked it up and it can't be Cummings  :fp
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on February 05, 2013, 09:57
(http://d4nuk0dd6nrma.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/1309_CT_SecretPro_530x800_V03c-copy.jpg)

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2013/02/let-the-season-begin/ (http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2013/02/let-the-season-begin/)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Arb on February 05, 2013, 10:09
Maybe he could call out the rest of Ferrari's clients?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on February 05, 2013, 10:57
Quote from: froomeborough, ages ago
...
Quote from: Secret Pro
It’s disappointing too that people get on Twitter and speak their mind when they just don’t know. I use to room with a high profile rider and we were messing around one day by Googling his name. The first thing that came up with “*name of rider* doping”.  That’s absolutely horrible for him because he’s never ever had anything against him, and he’s a top guy, but that’s just how it is.
...

On doping matters, Twitter brings far more pros than it does cons. And those pros aren't secret. ;)

I must have been in a cave (or in India) when the buzz happened on this Secret Pro thing. It's the first I've heard of it today.

Cummings strikes me as a bit of an omertakeeper whereas De Kort is from Argos and Argonauts are encouraged to talk openly. I suppose that 'openly' need not be antonymous with 'anonymously'.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on February 05, 2013, 11:03
to be honest this blog is plain boring. if it wasn't tagged as "secret" I doubt anyone would read it at all.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: AG on February 05, 2013, 13:11
I agree.  He is more interested in protecting who the hell he is than imparting information.

Jono's blog is much, much better
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: sublimit on February 05, 2013, 13:48
I just read that and it cant be a spoof because it was so dull.  Thats not Cummings... I hope.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on April 03, 2013, 11:22
to be honest this blog is plain boring. if it wasn't tagged as "secret" I doubt anyone would read it at all.

it gets worse
(http://d4nuk0dd6nrma.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/1309_CT_SecretPro_530x800_V03c.gif)

THE SECRET PRO: THE SPRING CLASSICS (http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2013/04/the-secret-pro-the-spring-classics/)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Arb on April 03, 2013, 11:43
lol, I accidentally clicked it earlier but hopefully closed before it registered as a visit.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on May 07, 2013, 12:58
THE SECRET PRO
Let the Grand Tours begin! (http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/05/the-secret-pro-2/)

This worth a read - who would have thought 
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: AG on May 07, 2013, 13:05
wow - interesting.

can we speculate on the GT winner who is going to be taken down by the Bio Passport?

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on May 07, 2013, 13:18
It's almost like they read all the comments people had about how banal it was and decided to go with this.  :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: killswitch on May 07, 2013, 13:19
THE SECRET PRO
Let the Grand Tours begin! (http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/05/the-secret-pro-2/)

This worth a read - who would have thought
Yep, best entry so far. Wonder who is the rider - Cobo? Or Basso?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: S-Works on May 10, 2013, 04:58
For those who are skeptical...
latest installment:

The Secret Pro: hoax or not?
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/05/the-secret-pro-hoax-or-not/
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: S-Works on May 10, 2013, 14:13
I'm starting to think it's Cobo...

and, I'm not sure about his sched this year so far (correct me if I'm wrong), but I'm thinking the Secret Pro could be Michael Rogers.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on May 10, 2013, 15:02
I'm starting to think it's Cobo...

and, I'm not sure about his sched this year so far (correct me if I'm wrong), but I'm thinking the Secret Pro could be Michael Rogers.
I don't think Rogers schedule fits with the Pro's schedule

I am still pretty sure it is KDK.
I had already come to that same conclusion after I went away after posting earlier in the thread and the race schedule (bar that KDK is doing the Giro) fits in exactly with that of the Secret Pro and so considering that Dim has confirmed he has insider info that it could be Koen and that I came up with similar conclusion prior to his subsequent blogs which detailed a race schedule which fits with the KDK it seems to fit.

Yet someone on Cyclingnews came up with the suggestion that it could be 3 people jointly writing it. Some how I doubt Cyclingtips would have landed three Pros like that, but it is another suggestion to throw into the pot.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on May 10, 2013, 17:08
Nobody who keeps the omerta / generally avoids talking about doping is going to be behind this blog, anonymous as it might be.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: S-Works on May 10, 2013, 21:28
I simply reasoned this way:

Rogers is at the Tour of California;
(http://i40.tinypic.com/awyzxf.jpg)

He speaks of Specialized helmets (Saxo-Tinkoff are Specialized equipped);
He is Australian;
He has a thing for Degenkolb and Freire
(http://i40.tinypic.com/1znpg04.jpg)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: AG on May 11, 2013, 01:08
but with Rogers history, he isnt likely to be writing a column with that kind of stuff in it.

I actually agree that it is likely to be a collaberation of more than 1 rider.  This would throw people off nicely, and they have gone to pains to admit it is ghost-written so easy enough for more than 1 rider to talk to the writer.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on May 11, 2013, 07:25
Agreed no way that Mick is the guy

he is of the Omerta
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Zam on May 11, 2013, 10:06
Agreed no way that Mick is the guy

he is of the Omerta

And he will never stoop this low.  :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: sublimit on May 11, 2013, 11:51
Also the blog is too polite to be written by an Australian..Unless the ghost writer took out all the swear words.    :cheesy


Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: S-Works on May 11, 2013, 19:15
Also the blog is too polite to be written by an Australian..Unless the ghost writer took out all the swear words.    :cheesy

Yes, it is all edited... says so clearly in one of the entries.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: ram on May 13, 2013, 02:37
wow - interesting.

can we speculate on the GT winner who is going to be taken down by the Bio Passport?
BS is ahead of the pack by at least ten minutes.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: lancasterke on May 15, 2013, 10:10
saddleblaze had a piece about this where he said that jj cobo was the gc guy getting popped because you just have to look at his gc results for one of the to stick out.

i just looked at ryder hesjedal. much worse, also, wiggins doesn't exactly have normal progression. i think this is a very bad way to work out who's doping.
not many guys are always at a similar competitive level (cadel, contador, gesink, sastre, rodriguez...from recent years)
basically it's self evident that the best result of someones life is likely to stick out from the other events in their life.

still think cobo is a doper but listing gc gt positions isn't the way to go about this sort of thing.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on May 15, 2013, 12:36
saddleblaze had a piece about this where he said that jj cobo was the gc guy getting popped because you just have to look at his gc results for one of the to stick out.

i just looked at ryder hesjedal. much worse, also, wiggins doesn't exactly have normal progression. i think this is a very bad way to work out who's doping.
not many guys are always at a similar competitive level (cadel, contador, gesink, sastre, rodriguez...from recent years)
basically it's self evident that the best result of someones life is likely to stick out from the other events in their life.

still think cobo is a doper but listing gc gt positions isn't the way to go about this sort of thing.

I would agree, and I think that since the rider and team will already know it is likely to be somebody that is not racing, best bid is Basso or Menchov. I actually have some belief that Basso stopped doping, I think he has regressed to what he was like in his early career. Menchov could be the reason for the UCI decisions on his team as well, if they knew he would get suspended I can see why they would want to relegate his team.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on June 07, 2013, 09:22
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/06/the-secret-pro-3/

Some interesting things actually mixed in with all the rest.

Nice to see he likes Nibs and he doesn't seem to have any suspicion of him and dispels any talk about Nibali testing positive.
And he also asks the obvious questions about Menchov, but it doesn't take no pro to figure that one out.
Also he defends Sky a bit and doesn't accuse them of doping, which is  unusual for him.

Seems to think he is riding the Dauphine, which KDK is not riding but then again I don't know what to say about his identity. After Cyclingtips denied it was KDK last time I think they are either leaving a false trail or its a combo.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on June 07, 2013, 09:37
I'm beginning to think that it was only KDK at first, and now he's contacted a few other pros and combines their comments and experiences.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on June 07, 2013, 10:13
yeah, propably, in the new blog, speaking about Cavendish that way, it actually doesn't sound like he was a teammate of Kittel (or Greipel)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: KeithJamesMc on June 07, 2013, 10:43
My vote is for Matty Hayman being TheSecretPro
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on June 07, 2013, 20:47
Hmmm, ok, I was told by someone that it was Koen.. Im now thinking the person who told me is in fact the secret pro but they arent riding the dauphine..

but i dont think the SP is riding the dauphine either.. i think far too many red herrings are being put in his articles now

(http://tipsofdivorce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/redherring.jpg)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: The Hitch on June 07, 2013, 21:26
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/06/the-secret-pro-3/

Some interesting things actually mixed in with all the rest.

Nice to see he likes Nibs and he doesn't seem to have any suspicion of him and dispels any talk about Nibali testing positive.

You don't seem to quite understand what being fingered working with ferrari means.

Quote
Also he defends Sky a bit and doesn't accuse them of doping, which is  unusual for him.

Has he accused them before :wut
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Slow Rider on June 07, 2013, 22:18
You don't seem to quite understand what being fingered working with ferrari means.

Do I want to know what it means? It sounds really dirty, way dirtier then I expected doping to be..
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: The Hitch on June 07, 2013, 22:34
Do I want to know what it means? It sounds really dirty, way dirtier then I expected doping to be..

Its binary. Either there is doping or there isnt.

Mr secret pro says he trusts Nibali, Froome19 says this is good news.

Im not trying to paint Nibali as dirtier than anyone else. Maybe he is the cleanest of the dopers. This isnt even about Nibali, really, its about pointing out a flaw in mr sp's comment. the evidence overwhelmingly points to the fact that mr secret pro is wrong on this issue. Thereby casting doubt on other contributions he makes.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on June 07, 2013, 22:39
Its binary. Either there is doping or there isnt.

Mr secret pro says he trusts Nibali, Froome19 says this is good news.

Im not trying to paint Nibali as dirtier than anyone else. Maybe he is the cleanest of the dopers. This isnt even about Nibali, really, its about pointing out a flaw in mr sp's comment. the evidence overwhelmingly points to the fact that mr secret pro is wrong on this issue. Thereby casting doubt on other contributions he makes.

Maybe the secret pro rides with Astana?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Slow Rider on June 07, 2013, 22:39
Its binary. Either there is doping or there isnt.

Mr secret pro says he trusts Nibali, Froome19 says this is good news.

Im not trying to paint Nibali as dirtier than anyone else. Maybe he is the cleanest of the dopers. This isnt even about Nibali, really, its about pointing out a flaw in mr sp's comment. the evidence overwhelmingly points to the fact that mr secret pro is wrong on this issue. Thereby casting doubt on other contributions he makes.

I was referring more to your wording: being fingered working with Ferrari.

Bad attempt at a joke, just ignore me.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on June 07, 2013, 22:48
Hmmm, ok, I was told by someone that it was Koen.. Im now thinking the person who told me is in fact the secret pro but they arent riding the dauphine..
Don't leave us hanging like that. Who told you it was Koen? :evil:
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on July 25, 2013, 14:01
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/07/the-secret-pro-post-tour-de-france-edition/
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: August on July 25, 2013, 15:09
I found this interesting.

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his performances certainly haven’t come from nowhere.

They haven't? Then what did he do results-wise or performance-wise before the 2011 Vuelta that would hint at him winning the Tour in the future?   :S
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on July 25, 2013, 15:16
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SP: I don’t defend dopers, but I think you need to think about the times these guys were riding in before passing judgement. Is there any difference between [O'Grady] and Santambrogio? In a word, yes. Doing stuff like that nowadays is just not acceptable.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it was acceptable then either.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: The Hitch on July 25, 2013, 15:21
I found this interesting.

They haven't? Then what did he do results-wise or performance-wise before the 2011 Vuelta that would hint at him winning the Tour in the future?   :S

New rule, if you can podium your first race as a superstar rather than win it, that is normal progression. 100th -100th -100th -100th - 2nd -1st, =steady progression.  100th -100th -100th -100th - 1st,= performance from nowhere.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Havetts on July 25, 2013, 15:56
It feels like the Secret Pro has some double standards. Santambrogio, came from mid level peloton, was obvious, peloton suspected it. Froome came from below mid level in the peloton, level grupetto, isnt obvious AND seems to be a nice guy. Welp, we've never seen nice guys dope before, seemingly being nice gives you a pass.

Tsk tsk, O'Grady gets a pass cause it was '98, but others who now use drugs and cheat are assholes. Pfff, double standards.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on September 06, 2013, 08:33
Probably the best one so far imo

worth a read - some great little bits

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/09/the-secret-pro-the-late-season-lull/ (http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/09/the-secret-pro-the-late-season-lull/)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: KeithJamesMc on September 06, 2013, 09:32
Very interesting episode.

Adding a lot of fuel to the Riis/Contador/Tinkov fire.

Something went very wrong for Saxo on the Aple D'Huez stage - the attack on the descent, the bike change in the valley sacrificing a hard fought lead, arguments with UCI officials at the bike weigh-in and now arguments with Riis over supper.

There was no significant attacks by Saxo after that stage - was this when Contador gave up?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on September 06, 2013, 10:03
It is strange how the Secret Pro seems to always trash a few dopers, and then love others. How Santa is any more guilty of doping than Klöden I can't wrap my head around. If Santa's B clears then IMO he is less likely to have doped during his carreer than Klöden who paid off a suit without accepting guilt. Both are well above the 99% certainty level IMO though.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Gotland on September 30, 2013, 13:45
Did it become clear who the unnamed rider with alleged  blood passport problem was, or is that a red herring from the  Secret Pro?  Whereas the JTL blood passport problem is possibly  a 'Good bye and thanks for the fish' from Fat?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on September 30, 2013, 14:09
Did it become clear who the unnamed rider with alleged  blood passport problem was, or is that a red herring from the  Secret Pro?  Whereas the JTL blood passport problem is possibly  a 'Good bye and thanks for the fish' from Fat?

Whoever it was must have had a good explanation, or be currently cooperating with some ADA already. My guess would be Menchov just based off the fact that he is one of the well known riders of the EPO era that kept his preformance up post 2008 and then dropped off later, if he stopped sometime after 2008 it would be very likely that he would get in trouble.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on April 01, 2014, 20:48
https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/451083021437784064

not read it FWIW  :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Gotland on April 01, 2014, 21:14
The story about the rider that went out for a pee on the rest day is very similar to David Millars' story in 2010 edition of the tour.  It starts @ 23:35' https://audioboo.fm/boos/1826068-david-millar-special#t=23m7s
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on April 01, 2014, 21:53
The story about the rider that went out for a pee on the rest day is very similar to David Millars' story in 2010 edition of the tour.  It starts @ 23:35' https://audioboo.fm/boos/1826068-david-millar-special#t=23m7s

Made me wonder, Andy? Cance to be secret pro?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on April 01, 2014, 23:03
The story about the rider that went out for a pee on the rest day is very similar to David Millars' story in 2010 edition of the tour.  It starts @ 23:35' https://audioboo.fm/boos/1826068-david-millar-special#t=23m7s

not exactly an "easy" stage though

(http://06.live-radsport.ch/thumb_uc_17320_506_Hoehenprofil_Tour_de_France_2010_-_Etappe_9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: froome19 on April 01, 2014, 23:13
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Not convinced,

I've spoken to a few riders, many people were tucking into meat whilst in china.

The awareness that this issue has raised in the media, moreso in hindsight, it just didn't reach the same fever pitch in the pro peloton.

It has now though.

This is what Jono said on the meat eating issue.

Secret pro has slightly different, though not irreconcilable view:

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Nobody who was at the Tour of Beijing would have wanted to win the Japan Cup. Everyone was worried about testing positive for clenbuterol and any win would obviously be tested. If it is true about clenbuterol not being tested in China, it seems that the Japanese anti-doping authorities didn’t get the message.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Arb on April 02, 2014, 01:42
https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/451083021437784064

not read it FWIW  :D

I'd rather limit my pageviews to this thread.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 02, 2014, 03:58
Oh yippee, yippee, yippee...the Secret Pro is back!  :ohu

(Not a dig on JSG)


So this "pro" announces his return as if he held some lofty position to begin with?  Please. He's going to have to do much better than...

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You’ll be hearing an announcement on the decision on Mick’s B-sample very soon

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People I’ve spoken to that have been around for a while says they haven’t heard of anyone taking clenbuterol in the past 20 years.
:slow

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let’s talk about the Flemish Classics coming up. My tip? Cancellara
:x_x
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Gotland on April 02, 2014, 09:20
not exactly an "easy" stage though

(http://06.live-radsport.ch/thumb_uc_17320_506_Hoehenprofil_Tour_de_France_2010_-_Etappe_9.jpg)

Correct, but are you reading the secret pro's story at face value?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on April 02, 2014, 09:27
mmh, no, not really. And Hushovd was in green back then, so with Garmin having some kind of leader's jerseys around, that part would fit

no one from Garmin's 2010 Tour de France team did Beijing in 2013 though. But those parts about the race programs are made up anyway, or this secret pro thing really is just a conglomeration of various half-baked sources and rumours
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Gotland on April 02, 2014, 11:37
A good way to find out is to single out narratives that isn't known, or couldn't be known publicly. The Millar story is a known story and has been out there for a few months.

Maybe there is a 'pro' but his narrative could be spiced up to make it more interesting. It is interesting that he speaks on behalf on the peloton. It must be some differences between let's say English speaking riders and Spanish speaking riders. The peloton should be separated in to different, cultural, language, social, team fractions like any social group would be divided in society.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on April 02, 2014, 11:39
yeh, but actually it does not have to be Millar, things like that propably happen dozens of times a year
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on April 02, 2014, 13:14
The story is Millar, but it's straight from his book. From memory he gave the police motorcyclist the jersey next day.

Apart from that, the secret pro continues to just be click bait.

"The Secret Pro - Telling us what we already knew since 2013"
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on April 02, 2014, 16:23
yeh, but actually it does not have to be Millar, things like that propably happen dozens of times a year

I think that is likely the case as well, a few come to mind -
Andy and O'Grady at the '10 Vuelta http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/updated-andy-schleck-ogrady-removed-from-vuelta
Also MR mentioned in his book that the Rabo team was celebrating their Tour result before the stage 20 ITT on the 2005 TdF. Apparently MR's mechanic was still drunk and cost MR a few placings in the GC.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Dim on April 02, 2014, 21:04
I think the specific mention of the motorbike and the jersey gives it away.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on February 23, 2015, 08:08
https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/569769924861624320

not read it yet FWIW
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on February 23, 2015, 10:21
https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/569769924861624320

not read it yet FWIW

It's bland. As always.

Includes another of those "I'm not an apologist for Lance but ..." viewpoints.

The rest consists of disc brakes, moaning about Pro Conti and Conti riders and what a sh*t Bouhanni is.

Not setting the world on fire, this fellow. Thank goodness most pros let their legs do the talking, because they're a dull lot.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on February 23, 2015, 10:22
It's bland. As always.

Includes another of those "I'm not an apologist for Lance but ..." viewpoints.

The rest consists of disc brakes, moaning about Pro Conti and Conti riders and what a sh*t Bouhanni is.

Not setting the world on fire, this fellow.

nope read it now Crap again
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on February 23, 2015, 10:34
I actually still quite like it.

However, it could be written by someone outside the peloton, considering the amount of actual insight contained.

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on February 23, 2015, 10:53
To be clear, I wouldn't mind that much even if the content wasn't particularly detailed. I do not expect the spice of innuendo and scandal in every column (although the episodes are so infrequent, you might think there would be more).

No, it's the quality of the writing that's poor. There's just nothing to get enthused about.

Even apparently dull days in the desert could be written in such a way as to render them engaging and lively.  The pros have that experience of riding high-pressure, with the highs and the lows, we do not have that experience. Surely someone can be found to communicate that on a consistent, meaningful basis.

All that needs to be done is to find a way to distill some of that experience before it evaporates in the blur of hotel rooms, tiredness and rationalisation.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on February 23, 2015, 15:50
Some people on Twitter saying that dissing Bouhanni while remaining anonymous isn't on.

Shane Stoke's reply, FWIW:
https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/569867186422095872
https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/569867298498080768
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: cj2002 on February 23, 2015, 16:40
I kind of want to know, just so I can never pick them in a Road.cc or CQ team ever again.

But I would be disappointed if it turned out to be someone I like.

Presumably he's a native anglophone? I've never read the blog in enough detail to narrow it down any further than that.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on February 23, 2015, 16:43
Presumably he's a native anglophone? I've never read the blog in enough detail to narrow it down any further than that.

there are a lot of false trails in there, it's not possible to track it down by the race schedule and so on.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: cj2002 on February 23, 2015, 16:51
I've just read a couple of posts on other sites:

http://journalvelo.com/opinion/new-update-who-is-the-secret-pro/

http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/the-secret-pro-stirs-the-pot-but-is-it-all-a-hoax/

It's a mark of how bored I am at the end of a working day that I am looking into something I am fundamentally not interested in. But anyway.

there are a lot of false trails in there, it's not possible to track it down by the race schedule and so on.

Which makes you question the whole point of it... if there are false trails then it can't come from only one rider's experiences (as in, some of it must be adapted from other cyclists). Which makes it no more authentic than me cobbling together an "insider's view" based on tweets of riders at any given race.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on February 23, 2015, 18:12
Which makes you question the whole point of it... if there are false trails then it can't come from only one rider's experiences (as in, some of it must be adapted from other cyclists). Which makes it no more authentic than me cobbling together an "insider's view" based on tweets of riders at any given race.
It is Dim's suspicion that this is indeed the case: Snippets from conversation with several cyclists put in a blender by the CT guys, and presented as 'The Secret Pro'.
Perhaps another reason Shane doesn't want to know who it is - if he doesn't explicitly know he can pretend it doesn't go against his journalistic standards. ;)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on February 23, 2015, 18:31
It is Dim's suspicion that this is indeed the case: Snippets from conversation with several cyclists put in a blender by the CT guys, and presented as 'The Secret Pro'.
Perhaps another reason Shane doesn't want to know who it is - if he doesn't explicitly know he can pretend it doesn't go against his journalistic standards. ;)

Why would they not just be open about that then, could just add an s and they would be fine, 'the secret pros' why not? seems better imo anyway.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on February 23, 2015, 19:16
Why would they not just be open about that then, could just add an s and they would be fine, 'the secret pros' why not? seems better imo anyway.
Why indeed? :S

My own personal theory:
At the beginning it was just one 'secret pro'. When the installment became more well-known, people started to dig deeper and were close to exposing who it was - that's when they started putting in false trails by drawing on multiple sources. But as the personality had been built up and trumpeted as an 'unique insight', they couldn't go back from that and say "we're just mixing stuff from 3-12 riders now".

Well, they could, but it would severely hurt their pride - and who would read it then? There are several non-anonymous pro diaries with just as much 'insider' info, if not more.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 23, 2015, 19:47
I haven't read anyone else's response yet, but here's mine.

Another embarrassing offering. I really wish they would just stop this nonsense.

The article starts with the usual painfully obvious observations and “insights.”
Ooh, it’s hot and sandy in the desert; there are no roadside fans; the riders don’t typical like the conditions; without the wind and bad weather the races become mundane and predictable sprints.

No kidding.

Then, he has the audacity to call out a rider by name (Bouhani) all while remainng anonymous himself. Yeah, don’t expect that to last very long. As soon as someone gets wind of who’s behind these sophomoric ramblings, his real name will be the toast of Twitterati coast-to-coast.


The Hour
Wow. Wiggins to set the likely standard. Brilliant. Never would’ve thought of that myself. I should probably join a cycling forum or something.


Disc brakes
Ah, taking a swipe at Conti and Pro-Conti riders. Remember, “Mr. Secret,” nobody likes a dick. Nobody. Don’t be a dick. More brilliant observations: “the only place I can see [disc brakes] being an advantage is on the really wet days.” Well yeah, Sherlock, that’s kind of one of the main talking points in favor of them.

Armstrong
Oh, poor, poor Lance.
Seriously, dude? STFU. Just shut it.
Then he suggests that it be David Millar to the rescue? If all this sympathy for Lance and cheerleading for Millar is a reflection of the pro peloton, then f’ck them. They have the corrupt and ridiculous sport they deserve.

Fireworks from Tinkoff-Saxo this year? Ya’ don’t say.
Oh, and Oleg is an unstable pr*ck? Imagine that. Suggesting that anyone should then follow Oleg’s ego-driven Twitter drivel is laughable.

This column is the biggest joke since UCI_Overlord.

Jesus Christ. :fp
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on February 23, 2015, 19:54
Ah, taking a swipe at Conti and Pro-Conti riders. Remember, “Mr. Secret,” nobody likes a dick. Nobody. Don’t be a dick

if he would call out Tyler Farrar at least... :P
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on May 19, 2015, 10:41
https://twitter.com/cyclingtips/status/600596794603479040
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on May 19, 2015, 10:52
https://twitter.com/cyclingtips/status/600596794603479040

Complains about sh*t hotels and then questions why Porte is in a motorhome. The bit he was probably right about though, it was that Porte didn't have much of a choice in the matter.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Joelsim on May 19, 2015, 10:58
Damning!
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: cj2002 on May 19, 2015, 11:56
I don't know why I read bullsh*t like this, it just winds me up.

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Though the blame can’t always be put on crazy fans — sometimes it’s the fault of the riders too. In many cases there are guys in the front of the peloton in the final kilometres at the Grand Tours who just shouldn’t be there. Smaller guys like the climbers may be trying to stay out of trouble or trying to look after their team leader but end up not knowing how to handle the situation up front in a sprint. These guys, with their limited sprinting skills, cause the crashes. They need to know where their place is.

Seriously? The Giro crashes were completely the fault of the fans. Sprints are difficult - 200 riders on a very small piece of tarmac, with different reasons for being there... the races within the races are what makes cycling so compelling to watch.

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Getting through a Grand Tour is a case of picking and choosing your stages, doing what you can on these days and then, on the days where you don’t have an aim, just trying to take it as easy as is possible. If that means rolling in five, 10 or 15 minutes behind then so be it. Just making sure you get in within the time cut is the goal on those days.

Sure - but if your aim is to make sure that Contador/Porte/Aru make it to the end of Stage 21 in the maglia rosa, just being inside the time cut isn't enough. You need to deliver them safely to the 3km mark. This is basic stuff. Secret "Pro" is taking out of his saddle-sore-ridden arse.

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Richie is a great guy, but if I were on his team I’d be out every night banging on the door!

If you did that, Secret Pro, you'd pretty soon find yourself out of a contract.

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That’s it for this time round, next time it’ll be closer to the big event in July and the stress that comes with it.

Oh, goodie! I can't wait...
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Claudio Cappuccino on May 19, 2015, 16:53
Great read, so much information  :cool

Watching grass growing etc etc...

addition:

Perhaps this blog is written for the casual cycling fans, not for diehard hardcore cyclingnutters. If thats the case, well, it is still shyte.

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on May 19, 2015, 18:41
Great read, so much information  :cool
:lol :lol :lol :lol


I don't know why I read bullsh*t like this, it just winds me up.
That's why you read it.  :P


So much nothingness. Just so, so much of it.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on May 24, 2015, 11:57
Whether I am just a naturally patient guy, but I still enjoy it !
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on June 09, 2015, 09:31
https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/608100046349828096

very Oz centric with praise

much of what he says I guess makes sense  :o :o as a rider

as a fan best GT in ages  :D :D

I have said before there is something to be said for full retard
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Flo on June 09, 2015, 09:37
lol
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Contador did a good job of taking the pink home; his team was solid with a few scrappy exclusions. But he rode well, showed class on a few stages and then showed he couldn’t do it day after day.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on June 09, 2015, 09:42
"fireworks-infused"  :secretlol
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Havetts on June 09, 2015, 12:06
Ahh the tri-annual sh*t on team x, praise rider y eventhough his record / improvements have been extremely dodgy, praise rider z eventhough everyone realistic knows he aint paniagua either and finally some remarks on why the UCI are useless.



So lets fill it in;


sh*t on Astana.
Praise Wiggo.
Praise Berto.
UCI are useless.



YAY. Thanks Secret Pro for saying what a remotely cynical fan has already thought of but then not daring to go all the way so just say halfassed things! :woohoo
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Joelsim on June 09, 2015, 12:25
Ahh the tri-annual sh*t on team x, praise rider y eventhough his record / improvements have been extremely dodgy, praise rider z eventhough everyone realistic knows he aint paniagua either and finally some remarks on why the UCI are useless.



So lets fill it in;


sh*t on Astana.
Praise Wiggo.
Praise Berto.
UCI are useless.



YAY. Thanks Secret Pro for saying what a remotely cynical fan has already thought of but then not daring to go all the way so just say halfassed things! :woohoo

To be fair to Wiggo, he has never been linked to anything illegal.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: AG on June 10, 2015, 01:47
to be fair to some of the Astana riders, they have never been linked to anything illegal either.

The point is Joel, that he arbitrarily sh*ts on some while praising others in similar situations or with similar improvements depending basically on who he likes or on PR.

Havy wasnt making accusations against Wiggo - he was accusing the 'secret pro' moron of random halfassed bullsh*t
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on June 10, 2015, 03:40
to be fair to some of the Astana riders, they have never been linked to anything illegal either.
Besides Astana.  :D


Where to begin with the most useless cycling column ever written...:slow

FFS, there is not one, single word from that joker that makes me think, "Oh yeah, this dude is really on the inside!"

Give. Me. A Break.

The Secret Doosh reads like little more than some kid in his bedroom after perusing the pages of his Velonews subscription (they still make those things out of paper and send them in the mail, right?). I call BS on the whole thing. He behaves as if the reader has no clue as to what the most worn out stories of the month were.

Oh, Astana drilled it at the Giro?! No kidding. But he tires to be coy about it, "Certain teams just took the race by the horns. Yah, "certain" teams. WOW! Juicy gossip!!!!

On Contador:
"He rode well."
Yes, I suppose he did.  :lol


His mundane retelling of these already-thoroughly-hashed-out events is not only unbecoming of a website dedicate to cycling, it's just plain boring, dull and dumb.

Nothing about it sounds the least bit believable to me. None of it.

And each installment becomes more and more of an embarrassment to himself and CyclingTips. :fp


Ooh, a clue!
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Tour of California...it’s a perfect platform for our team’s title sponsor.
Nobody cares. flip off.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Claudio Cappuccino on June 10, 2015, 04:42
Quote
Look at poor Richie Porte and the saga of him taking a wheel from Simon Clarke and getting a two-minute penalty. You have to wonder if the same thing would have happened if it had been two Italian riders. Keep it consistent, please.
Thanks to the Secret Pro I just spit my coffee on my labtop  :o

He better call himself the Secret Racist next time.

Again: great read  :cool
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on June 10, 2015, 06:28
Where to begin with the most useless cycling column ever written...:slow
If a person has either lived under a rock for the past month, and/or hasn't followed cycling at all until just now, it's a quick way to get up to speed.

We know all these things already - but you can be sure that for the overwhelming majority of the general population does not.
As a short, poor summary of the past few weeks' events, it has its place.

However, that's not what an 'insider's' column should be about.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: lancasterke on June 10, 2015, 08:22
I don't really care, but there must be enough columns now and enough clues to categorically say who it is, or that no one meets those criteria.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Jamsque on June 10, 2015, 18:42
People have analyzed this in the past and determined that they are either aggregating columns from different riders to form the 'secret pro' persona or they are changing things to obfuscate the identity of the rider.

Also it's Mick Rodgers.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on June 10, 2015, 18:49
I haven't looked at it in detail, but if what he says in only this one column is all taken to be true, it would be a rider born in 1979-1981 (rode vs. Wiggins as junior) who participated in the Giro, is going to ride the Tour, and whose team regularly does the Tour of California.

I don't think anybody fits that.
So it's either a) made up from several riders' accounts or b) edited to obscure the identity - like Jamsque says.


And honestly - would we want to know which pro cyclist gives off that stuff? My respect for him would fall a lot. Better to be blissfully unaware. :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Flaco on June 10, 2015, 20:14
The secret pro is Greg Henderson
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Flaco on June 10, 2015, 20:16
Adam Hansen is part of them too, it's a wave of riders the write for cycling tips, not one person.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on June 10, 2015, 23:51
If a person has either lived under a rock for the past month, and/or hasn't followed cycling at all until just now, it's a quick way to get up to speed.

We know all these things already - but you can be sure that for the overwhelming majority of the general population does not.
As a short, poor summary of the past few weeks' events, it has its place.
No. No it does not. It has no place.

And here's why:
I don't think there's a chance in hell that anyone who doesn't follow the weekly events in cycling would ever come across this fictional accounting of events in the first place. Why would they?

The only people reading the Secret Doosh, would already have to be reading CyclingTips and/or be hip to Shane's Twitter feed. No one else would ever be aware that that abomination of writing evens exists in the first place.

So how could those same people not already know the most basic gossip and innuendo being spread around?
It's inconceivable to me.

And if—as Flaco and others have stated/implied—the column itself is actually an aggregation of various sources, then who ever edits it should resign. It's a joke. And a bad one.

I have enormous admiration for Shane Stoke's based on years of reading his excellent contributions. I would hope that he would see the futility of continuing this farce, and urge whoever-the-hell is behind it to cease and desist immediately.

How dumb do they think we are?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Joelsim on June 11, 2015, 00:13
I get the impression that the writer(s) just know that cycling is disappearing back into the abyss after some steps in the right direction. They know the UCI will be aware of it. Given the paucity of information from the peloton for the CIRC Report, I feel this is just a warning shot over the bows.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on June 11, 2015, 07:15
I don't think anybody fits that.

My thought was Ryder, when I read this blog.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Race Radio on June 11, 2015, 09:24

The Secret Doosh reads like little more than some kid in his bedroom after perusing the pages of his Velonews subscription (they still make those things out of paper and send them in the mail, right?). I call BS on the whole thing. He behaves as if the reader has no clue as to what the most worn out stories of the month were.


It sure would be funny if The Secret Pro is actually one of the "Bone Idle w***ers" Wiggins rants about
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on June 11, 2015, 10:24
FWIW really am sure Hansen is not part of it, he is quiet anti normal cycling and can't see him be fliped with this BS
Pretty sure of 2  of the group

Hendo #lotto
De Kort #giant
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Flo on June 11, 2015, 11:48
My thought was Ryder, when I read this blog.
"Riders who were in your group a few months ago now pushing 40 watts more" doesn't seem to fit Ryder imo
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on June 11, 2015, 13:35
"Riders who were in your group a few months ago now pushing 40 watts more" doesn't seem to fit Ryder imo

True, the part about talking to DS about going to California instead sort of means it would have to be a star or something, if that is true. I mean all respect to Koen de Kort but why would it matter sending him to an important race for the sponsors over Chad Haga or whoever?

Since we are in darkside there is another thing I noticed in the Giro, a certain part of the peloton had a hard time following pace early on in the Giro and sort of came from behind later on. Sort of made me think of Santa who was a few hours of glow time from coming in doped. I wonder if that is a thing.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Race Radio on June 11, 2015, 15:04
De Kort #giant

Always thought that as well.....but he didn't ride the Giro. Wade has said that he intentionally changes some of the key facts to obscure his identity and he also has plenty of reasons to not like Astana
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on June 11, 2015, 15:21
Always thought that as well.....but he didn't ride the Giro.

the race schedules have never fitted for one rider only, right from the start
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Claudio Cappuccino on June 11, 2015, 17:04
The 'who is the secret racist' is just more interesting than what he writes, I agree. And, that, is pretty sad.

But it is Haussler  :-x
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Joelsim on June 11, 2015, 17:17
and he also has plenty of reasons to not like Astana

That doesn't narrow it down very much.

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Joelsim on June 11, 2015, 17:18
Maybe TSP is an amalgam of every rider in the peloton bar Astana?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on June 11, 2015, 17:43
The 'who is the secret racist' is just more interesting than what he writes, I agree. And, that, is pretty sad.

But it is Haussler  :-x

doubt that again

just not that way I think,not sure he cares tbh
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Claudio Cappuccino on June 11, 2015, 18:10
doubt that again

just not that way I think,not sure he cares tbh
Agreed, I also dont care who he is to be frank.

Could it be an agent...
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on June 11, 2015, 19:56
I think the most recent blog was probably Brett Lancaster. Would fit with racing Wiggins as a Junior (on the track) and having ridden the Giro multiple times. Not sure how riding the Tour of California next year fits with the title sponsor bit though.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on June 11, 2015, 20:06
I think the most recent blog was probably Brett Lancaster. Would fit with racing Wiggins as a Junior (on the track) and having ridden the Giro multiple times. Not sure how riding the Tour of California next year fits with the title sponsor bit though.
No but Brett and Koen works
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on June 11, 2015, 20:48
It sure would be funny if The Secret Pro is actually one of the "Bone Idle w***ers" Wiggins rants about
I think I've found him.

(http://kevinandtammy.net/images/gilmore3/kevin_gilmore.jpg)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on August 17, 2015, 13:22
sorry 

(http://images.cyclingtips.com.au/content/uploads/2015/08/1410_LeTour_illustration-02-copy.jpg)

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/08/the-secret-pro-post-tour-crits-worlds-and-the-farce-that-is-the-iaaf/
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on October 29, 2015, 09:50
ok the new 1 is out am not even going to link it

Was polite etc and suggested to Cycling tips they look at the target audience etc

They have said many issues with liable etc which I understand , but they may not bother with it next year

https://twitter.com/cyclingtips/status/659666856920256513

https://twitter.com/cyclingtips/status/659667017310408704
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on October 30, 2015, 08:22
wait, wait it gets worse...

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/10/the-secret-pro-the-best-and-worst-of-season-2015/
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Flo on October 30, 2015, 10:02
Never read such a big load of crap, Scret pro is clearly some  huge ass w***er who thinks he is the king of the world

And what the heck is this
WORST RACE OF THE YEAR

Easy. Any in France. No, I jest. Il Lombardia is up there along with the Giro, and especially this year’s edition.

Is that just because astana did well in them because those races were pretty cool. What a total dickhead idiot w***er.
I can't stand this guy, why do I even bother to read his sh*t piles he calls blogs  :S

Edit: swear censor turns wanker into w***er :cool
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: AG on October 30, 2015, 13:37
this one is the one you want Flo

:winker
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Claudio Cappuccino on October 30, 2015, 17:31
Somehow I love the secret dik.

I just have to click on that link that brings me to 1500 - or so - words about - supposedly - cycling and I am always happy I can say with my knowledge of the sport: 'he is pretty bad at it'.

Giro, Lombardia worst races of the season, I lolled.

What is the correct spelling of hypocrite again?

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Kiwirider on October 30, 2015, 19:01
this one is the one you want Flo

:winker

Can we belatedly add this to the contenders for post of the year???    :cool :cool ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: pastronef on October 30, 2015, 19:12
this one is the one you want Flo

:winker

THIS is the post of the year, not the 2 other in the poll

 :lol
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on October 30, 2015, 21:17
THIS is the post of the year, not the 2 other in the poll
We can include it as a (very) early nomination for next year's awards. :)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: M Gee on October 31, 2015, 01:21
Never read such a big load of crap, Scret pro is clearly some  huge ass w***er who thinks he is the king of the world

And what the heck is this
WORST RACE OF THE YEAR

Easy. Any in France. No, I jest. Il Lombardia is up there along with the Giro, and especially this year’s edition.

Is that just because astana did well in them because those races were pretty cool. What a total dickhead idiot w***er.
I can't stand this guy, why do I even bother to read his sh*t piles he calls blogs  :S

Edit: swear censor turns wanker into w***er :cool

Oh, lordy, Flo! You went on at such length that I had to go read the past 3 SP blog posts just to see what the brouhaha was about. He doesn't make any bones about implying that Astana is doping. And is considered by at least some others in the peloton as doping. Which, I think, has a lot to do with why he called it a crap race. Me? I, like you, thought it was a great race this year. But he's saying all the excitement was because he thinks somebody was doping.

Interesting. At least, this time, ppl like us and SP are talking about it.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 12, 2016, 03:28
It's 2016

That can only mean one thing! :cool

https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/697812291715137536


I'd say the perfect response would be for a Veloroom collective to pre-write the article in that inimitable style, with all the yawn-inducing content that can easily be ripped from the pages of CN.

Shall we?  :D

I'll gladly go first, but I need some sleep at the moment. But just to throw out a basic outline off the top of my head...

The TDU
-It's always a good way to start the season, reunite with some old mates, test out the legs for the upcoming season.
-Caleb Ewan is super fast! He's an up-and-coming rider to watch!

Mechanical doping:
-There have been rumors about it for years, (but that's a "secret"  :shh)
-Lifetime bans should be handed out to some but perhaps not to young Femke.
-It's probably already occurred on some level within the men's pro ranks.
-The UCI needs to do more.
-Most pros aren't too worried about it currently.
-There's talk that a certain rider may have used it in a certain race...but that really is a "secret."  :shh

Dubai and Qatar:
-It's hot in the desert
-No roadside fans

Disc brakes are coming:
-Some riders like them, some don't.

The Spring Classics are coming:
-Cancellara's last season. He may have another big win in his legs if he stays healthy.
-Cavendish is riding with a new team. He may win some races as well, or he may not. He's getting older, not younger, but is still motivated and his new surroundings may or may not help him succeed.

Chris Froome has shown good form early season.
Richie Porte has shown good form early season.
It's too early to say who's early season good form is the best.


I don't want to giveaway too much of the upcoming column, because it's a secret!  :shh

Anyone else?   :P
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Tuart on February 12, 2016, 06:58
It's 2016

That can only mean one thing! :cool

https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/697812291715137536

Anyone else?   :P

We are best buddies!  :cool He's going to talk about me in his column. His editors better not cut that out!

https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/697816145726820352
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on February 12, 2016, 09:56
It's 2016

That can only mean one thing! :cool

Gold.

Plus ...

Giant-Alpecin: the incident was sad. Dege trained so hard but now no Spring Classics. Drivers need to be more careful.

Paolini: everyone knew something was up. It's a harder life than people think, being a pro cyclist.

Cavendish: is he past his best? Some people think so, others don't. Rumour was he wanted to stay at #etixx. He's still fast.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 16, 2016, 03:01
It's reached a new low. :fp

How can the overlords at CyclingTips possible think this is a worthwhile contribution to their website?

http://cyclingtips.com/2016/02/the-secret-pro-mechanical-doping-sketchy-finishes-and-katusha-dodges-another-bullet/ (http://cyclingtips.com/2016/02/the-secret-pro-mechanical-doping-sketchy-finishes-and-katusha-dodges-another-bullet/)

This installment is so incredibly weak overall that I can barely be bothered to deconstruct it. Bad writing with less insight than usual. It's really appalling. Calling out Kennaugh? Pretty funny coming from an anonymous blogger. Just like the reference upthread to "twitter trolls." Big-mouthed tough guy who won't use his real name. It's laughable.

So where were we?

TDU - √
Caleb Ewan - √
Mechanical doping - √
Spring Classics are coming - √
Giant-Alpecin crash - √


Honestly, who the hell does this guy think he is? You have to love his mocking of "the skinny dudes all comparing their watts per kilo against each other." This, coming from a pro cyclist? OK.

If the closing paragraphs were ever posted on a forum, they'd be rightly lambasted for their juvenile overview of the blatantly obvious.

Such tremendous insight!  :cool

Quote
So, what’s next? The Spring Classics are coming — racing in the wind and rain over narrow cobblestone roads and across fields of manure. The opening weekend — Omloop and Kuurne — is the first chance to show who’s going well, and who’s nearly ready. If someone has a good showing there, you know he’s ready for Classics. Then you go off and do your stage race, Paris-Nice or Tirreno, and then everyone knows who’s ready for the Flemish Classics.

For Belgian riders and teams it’s bigger than the Tour de France; it’s written up in the newspaper every single day. It’s madness. Races like Flanders and Roubaix are just 250km of madness.


After just a couple of hours of publishing that sorry excuse for a column, we have this:
Quote
Comments for this thread are now closed.
  :-x
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: AG on February 16, 2016, 03:30
hmmm   ...  that is 5 minutes I will never get back
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on February 16, 2016, 08:44
If the closing paragraphs were ever posted on a forum, they'd be rightly lambasted for their juvenile overview of the blatantly obvious.
Professional athletes are often hardly known for their insight or eloquence.
In fact, if they're able to string a couple of proper sentences together, that's sometimes cause for jubilation! ;)

So ... yeah.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: L'arri on February 16, 2016, 10:43
The language was notably, shall we say, looser than previous editions but underneath that, nothing more was said than usual, which was basically nothing. Heavily edited by the publishers or a work of fiction. Or both.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on February 16, 2016, 10:59
The language was notably, shall we say, looser than previous editions but underneath that, nothing more was said than usual, which was basically nothing. Heavily edited by the publishers or a work of fiction. Or both.

They claim heavy edited, but I guess they would

Very predictable
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: stereojet on February 16, 2016, 19:54
I quite liked the Kennaugh bit.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 16, 2016, 21:29
I quite liked the Kennaugh bit.
I just think it's pretty weak of him to call out other riders by name, while remaining anonymous himself.

The immaturity of this most recent offering is really embarrassing for CyclingTips. I've no idea what they think they're accomplishing with this. The author comes off as a total pr*ck, and I hope he gets exposed.

I still call BS on much of it, despite the feeble claims from Wade (is that his name?) or whoeverthehell runs that site. Having some supposed pro who is cocky and arrogant, delivering a poorly written, divisive blog that offers nothing of substance and no details that aren't' readily available elsewhere, is not only counterproductive, but insulting to anyone with even half a functioning brain.

It represents everything that I hate about the sport, and nothing that I like.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Joelsim on February 16, 2016, 21:38
Funnily enough I said much of that to Neal Rogers on twitter today.

Simply mudslinging and debate we've all read plenty about instead of pro cyclist insight. Rogers view was that a pro gives more weight.

Pretty amateur tbh.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 16, 2016, 22:20
Rogers view was that a pro gives more weight.
To the mud?

He can't be serious. As a journalist himself, I would hope that he sees the futility of these imbecilic attempts.

I would challenge Neal to point to one, single thing in this last installment that offers any sort of a unique insight. If repeating what's already been written about and known, but simply reframing it under the guise of a "pro" is supposed to hold some sort of value, then they should all be ashamed of themselves.

If they're not, I'm ashamed for them.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: stereojet on February 17, 2016, 08:40
I'd suggest that the Secret Pro is an amalgam of sources in the peloton and 'his' posts are simply compiled from gossip the journos hear on the road, some of it off the record, some of it not quite on the record, if you see what I mean, from some of their sources. I very much doubt it'd be one person. And yes it's puerile and reports stuff that most serious fans already know but I'd imagine that it's aimed at the casual readers of the site rather than the hardcore. The veiled suggestion at the end of the Kennaugh bit was the most interesting thing. Again, not exactly an exclusive bit of breaking news but it suggests that Sky's methods are causing even more resentment in the peloton to the extent that somebody might go public. (I'm probably reading too much into it, but hey ho, this is what I do before the real racing begins.)
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on March 30, 2016, 08:31
https://twitter.com/IamtheSecretPro/status/714847374321930240

Not the worst 1 ever, not too bad I guess very pro anglo though, the #sky line was funny
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 08:50
The first section of this one was good imo. The rest you can probably skip if you followed cycling with half an eye since Omloop.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: vitihv on March 30, 2016, 09:04
This gets worst and worst every time... :-x
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Flo on March 30, 2016, 09:14
The stuff about Demare is just stupid, "Strava shows he was freewheeling at 50kph" no his max speed was 50kph, average 35 or so, Yates said his max speed was above 50 too.

So he finished Paris Nice apparently, which eliminates a few.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 10:12
So he finished Paris Nice apparently, which eliminates a few.

Should we just get this over with and play secret pro bingo?

Basically start with those that finished PN and go back to find statements and scratch names?

Paris Nice finishers:

THOMAS Geraint
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
PORTE Richie
ZAKARIN Ilnur
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
YATES Simon
GALLOPIN Tony
BARDET Romain
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria
JEANNESSON Arnold
DUMOULIN Tom
KELDERMAN Wilco
WELLENS Tim
WESTRA Lieuwe
CRADDOCK Lawson
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
ROLLAND Pierre
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
MAJKA Rafal
MEINTJES Louis
GESCHKE Simon
CALMEJANE Lilian
SERRY Pieter
KANGERT Tanel
CHEREL Mikael
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel
FERNANDEZ CRUZ Delio
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
SPILAK Simon
CHAVANEL Sylvain
SLAGTER Tom-Jelte
SWIFT Ben
SØRENSEN Chris Anker
ROSA Diego
HERRADA LOPEZ Jose
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
GAUTIER Cyril
DEVENYNS Dries
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus
NAESEN Oliver
POLJANSKI Pawel
FELLINE Fabio
BENNETT George
WYSS Danilo
PACHER Quentin
PAUWELS Serge
TROFIMOV Yury
DUCHESNE Antoine
IMPEY Daryl
ROCHE Nicolas
MATTHEWS Michael
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel
MOINARD Amaël
KOCHETKOV Pavel
VAN BAARLE Dylan
KISERLOVSKI Robert
HERMANS Ben
STANNARD Ian
LAGUTIN Sergey
VACHON Florian
PREIDLER Georg
BURGHARDT Marcus
REYNES MIMO Vicente
DOMONT Axel
VOECKLER Thomas
DUQUE Leonardo Fabio
ERVITI OLLO Imanol
BOSWELL Ian
LUTSENKO Alexey
DE GENDT Thomas
SCHÄR Michael
TULIK Angelo
VELITS Peter
LATOUR Pierre
TANKINK Bram
GASTAUER Ben
GEBREMARIAM GRMAY Tsgabu
TERPSTRA Niki
REZA Kévin
DIDIER Laurent
EIKING Odd Christian
LUDVIGSSON Tobias
GRUZDEV Dmitriy
BONO Matteo
LOUBET Julien
VANENDERT Jelle
BRESCHEL Matti
DI GREGORIO Rémy
RAST Gregory
ROWE Luke
QUEMENEUR Perrig
KONOVALOVAS Ignatas
BONIFAZIO Niccolo
VANMARCKE Sep
HOELGAARD Daniel
DELAPLACE Anthony
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael
CURVERS Roy
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets
ALBASINI Michael
COURTEILLE Arnaud
PIBERNIK Luka
COMBAUD Romain
THEUNS Edward
MARTENS Paul
HUPOND Thierry
SIMON Julien
VAN EMDEN Jos
DELAGE Mickaël
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
CAMPENAERTS Victor
SISKEVICIUS Evaldas
PICHOT Alexandre
HANSEN Adam
PETIT Adrien
COSTA Mario Jorge Faria
SABATINI Fabio
BEPPU Fumiyuki
BAK Lars Ytting
TEN DAM Laurens
TRONET Steven
DIAZ Daniel Ricardo
THOMSON Jay Robert
FARRAR Tyler
VAN GENECHTEN Jonas
DOCKER Mitchell
BRAMMEIER Matthew
BEWLEY Sam
BRÄNDLE Matthias
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on March 30, 2016, 10:36
scratch all non english speakers or those without a strong connection to Australia
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 10:37
In his last installment he said[1]

Quote
I had a great time at the Tour Down Under again this year.

Of the riders listed above 33 started the Tour Down Under

THOMAS Geraint
PORTE Richie
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
WESTRA Lieuwe
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
MEINTJES Louis
GESCHKE Simon
SERRY Pieter
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
SWIFT Ben
GAUTIER Cyril
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus
BENNETT George
WYSS Danilo
IMPEY Daryl
STANNARD Ian
LAGUTIN Sergey
PREIDLER Georg
BURGHARDT Marcus
DE GENDT Thomas
VELITS Peter
TANKINK Bram
GEBREMARIAM GRMAY Tsgabu
LUDVIGSSON Tobias
GRUZDEV Dmitriy
ROWE Luke
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael
ALBASINI Michael
PIBERNIK Luka
HANSEN Adam
BAK Lars Ytting
FARRAR Tyler

 1. http://cyclingtips.com/2016/02/the-secret-pro-mechanical-doping-sketchy-finishes-and-katusha-dodges-another-bullet/
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 10:53
Last years Giro[1]

Quote
I can’t think of any race in my career where I’ve come away from it and sworn never to go back. But I did just that after this year’s Giro.

Comparing the 33 from above with riders that started stage 1 of the Giro last year yields a list of 13 riders.

Richie Porte, LL Sanchez, David De La Cruz, Simon Geschke, Ruben Fernandez, Jesus Herrada, Sergey Lagutin, Marcus Burghardt, Tsgabu Grmay, Tobias Ludvigson, Adam Hansen and Lars Bak 
 1. http://cyclingtips.com/2015/06/the-secret-pro-on-the-giro-there-were-days-when-youd-just-despair/
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 10:58
Looking like Hansen thus far I think.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Not My Circus on March 30, 2016, 11:04
In the past I have clicked the link, read, sometimes (not very often tbh) laughed, rolled eyes and moved on...   This one, well let's just say whatever low motivation I had for reading it has well and truly evaporated.  I don't care what the SP thinks and care even less to read it. I can get more or less the same on any given day on twitter. Plus it's infinitely funnier more engaging to do so over here. Why Cycling Tips persist to pedal this tripe is beyond me.

That said, the need to find out who the idiot is still persists  :o



Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 11:15
2013 Beijing[1]

Quote
At the Tour of Beijing there were rumours going around the peloton — and let me stress that these were rumours — that clenbuterol was off the testing list for that race. (ed: the UCI maintains that they were testing though) We didn’t see an official UCI communique on this, but people seemed pretty confident in this unofficial decision. The organisers apparently went through a lot of effort to get uncontaminated food, but the rumour was that even the testers were coming back positive for clenbuterol when they tested themselves. All food was provided by the race organisers (buffet style) at the hotel, but food contamination was on everyone’s mind. Lots of riders just stuck to the fried rice the whole time as it seemed to be the safest thing, but even that had pork, egg and who knows what else in it. On the last evening in Beijing many of the riders wanted to get out for a night on the town and Mick was one of them.

Crossing the thirteen above with the 2013 ToB stage one nets five riders lieft - Richie Porte, Jesus Herrada, Marcus Burghardt, Tobias Ludvigson and Adam Hansen.
 1. http://cyclingtips.com/2014/04/the-secret-pro-4/
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on March 30, 2016, 11:15
we have decided Idiots though it is a group

Hansen has been named before as being part of the group, the test sounded very much like Rogers fwiw

and of course they will change races to try and keep us guessing

Hansen, Rogers and de Kort ??
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: LukasCPH on March 30, 2016, 11:28
we have decided Idiots though it is a group

Hansen has been named before as being part of the group, the test sounded very much like Rogers fwiw

and of course they will change races to try and keep us guessing

Hansen, Rogers and de Kort ??
De Kort is definitely part of the 'source group'. Hansen and Rogers are very likely to be part of it, too.

Ultimately though, I don't really care (anymore).
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 11:36
we have decided Idiots though it is a group

Hansen has been named before as being part of the group, the test sounded very much like Rogers fwiw

and of course they will change races to try and keep us guessing

Hansen, Rogers and de Kort ??

Personally I don't think it is a group, and here is why, for it to be a group you would either have to have suggested the idea to all at the start, which I see unlikely, the first blog is probably just one rider as mentioned, else it why not make it clear that it is not "a secret pro" if you then have a secret pro how do you invite others, surely you can not just ask "Hi mate I write a secret blog, care to join me" at that point you might be outed to the rest of the peloton. I reckon Nibali and Astana are not fans of said blog if this thing blew up.

I don't see Rogers, I mean Sky let him go for some reason... and some reason most people probably have an idea what is... To have him bring secret inside, I don't see it.

I think it is one person, and Hansen would be my guess, probably adding in a few words heard in the peloton here and there about races he did not do.

Quote
On to a lighter note: Adam Hansen did it again, adding yet another Grand Tour to his ever-growing tally of back-to-back attempts. He’s a guy that clearly loves racing his bike, and he’s an absolute nut-job for attempting such a feat.

Who’d want to do ride 11 Grand Tours in a row?! Massive respect to him though. He’s smart enough to not have to turn a pedal too — the guy could earn a lot more money than he is as a rider but clearly he races because he wants to. Pure class. I wonder when he’ll say enough is enough?

Stuff like that really makes me wonder...
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on March 30, 2016, 11:45
I think it is one person, and Hansen would be my guess, probably adding in a few words heard in the peloton here and there about races he did not do.

the races mentioned in there don't fit for one single rider though, we've had a look at it in the beginning already. So either half of it is made up and hearsay, it's completely fake, or it's a group of riders.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Not My Circus on March 30, 2016, 11:47
Looking like Hansen thus far I think.

enjoying the detective work. It would make my day however if it turned out to be Lars Bak. Can you imagine ... the quiet Dane with a secret ;p
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 11:55
the races mentioned in there don't fit for one single rider though, we've had a look at it in the beginning already. So either half of it is made up and hearsay, it's completely fake, or it's a group of riders.

My thought is that a lot of the mentions are just made up, like he will mention that he did some race and then not talk a whole lot about it. I think it is in the details, the 2015 Giro I am sure whoever wrote it actually rode from what was said. However some of the other references you kind of think well I could have given you a more detailed summary of that and I barely even watched the race. P-N this year certainly one they could have made up, I mean I re-watched De Gendt's win and missed the rest of the race, yet I knew everything he said already. Not saying he wasn't there, but that one could've been a lie.

Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 11:59
enjoying the detective work. It would make my day however if it turned out to be Lars Bak. Can you imagine ... the quiet Dane with a secret ;p

No way it is Bak, however if it was, I bet you would scour back trough those articles again. Also Bak is not that quiet is he, to me he has always seemed pretty witty in interviews. Cort/Hansen seems more quiet if I had to pick a quiet Dane.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Not My Circus on March 30, 2016, 13:35
No way it is Bak, however if it was, I bet you would scour back trough those articles again. Also Bak is not that quiet is he, to me he has always seemed pretty witty in interviews. Cort/Hansen seems more quiet if I had to pick a quiet Dane.

I was only joking ;p... and no I wouldn't... he just seemed the most unlikely on one of your lists... I'll take your word about his humour, though I meant quiet in the sense he doesn't need to get on social media ... refreshing in this day and age
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 13:57
I was only joking

Me too, sorry for the lack of emoji, here is one as a compensation though :cool
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Claudio Cappuccino on March 30, 2016, 16:57
I must say I like the rider Hansen more than the columnist.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Flo on March 30, 2016, 17:00
P-N this year... De Gendt's win
:?
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: DB-Coop on March 30, 2016, 20:33
:?

Okay that may have been Cataluna, I stand corrected. Also I now remember I watched the prologue of P-N (I really hope that was the prologue I watched at least)

But my point still stands I knew every thing he said, despite watching very little WT stage racing thus far.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on July 13, 2016, 13:46
http://cyclingtips.com/2016/07/the-secret-pro-at-the-2016-tour-de-france-sky-is-conserving-cav-is-back-and-squabbles-in-the-gruppetto/

Not the worst one ever Matti Special  :lol
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Drummer Boy on August 05, 2016, 02:41
I've only just discovered the fact that there's now a Women's Secret Pro. Two installments thus far. :fp

Not only is it another waste of pixels, but they really, really enjoy overusing the exclamation mark!
Even when nothing exciting is being said!
It's incredibly annoying and sophomoric!
As are all the effusive comments that follow both installments!  :cool

FFS, those readers are morons. The column has the same snarky tone of its male counterpart, while employing the equally lame method of calling out specific riders from a safe, anonymous distance. It's both pathetic and uninformative.

A reasoned and insightful look behind-the-scences of women's cycling might be worth reading. The teenaged rantings of someone better suited to tweeting about the last pool party they attended, I could do without.

Excellent work, Wade!  :secretlol
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: just some guy on October 04, 2016, 07:27
https://twitter.com/cyclingtips/status/783161229086908417

for Drummer  :lol
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: search on October 04, 2016, 08:53
well, the "you wouldn’t want to turn up to team camp [of the Bahrain team] in poor condition, would you?", referring to the Prince torturing people, made me chuckle a bit to be honest  :D
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Slow Rider on October 04, 2016, 10:06
OMG OMG OMG! He said TUEsday! Because it's about TUEs! And today is Tuesday! Get it? TUEsday! That's hilarious! And he even repeated it at the end, because it's so funny!

FFS.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Ram on November 13, 2017, 02:25
Is Phil Gaimon judging by the sh*t he spouts.

<stolen from another forum>
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Archieboy on November 15, 2017, 07:40
Is Phil Gaimon judging by the sh*t he spouts.

<stolen from another forum>

And still the sh*t spouting goes on, but now he gets gobby with the lawyers. mug.
Title: Re: The Secret Pro Blog
Post by: Ram on November 15, 2017, 17:29
Put a gun to his head, and it's likely to clear out his plumbing....