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Title: Formula 1
Post by: cj2002 on February 05, 2013, 16:21
For it has started...

Today saw the first pre-season testing of 2013 in Jerez.

All 11 teams ran (no HRT this year, of course), although not everyone has launched their new car (Williams, I believe, are running a development chassis with some 2012 parts and some 2013).

Fastest Lap Times
DriverTeamFastest LapLaps Completed
1Jenson ButtonMcLaren *gb 1m18.861s37
2Mark WebberRed Bull *au 1m19.709s73
3Romain GrosjeanLotus *fr 1m19.796s54
4Paul di RestaForce India *gb 1m20.343s89
5Daniel RicciardoToro Rosso *au 1m20.401s70
6Felipe MassaFerrari *it 1m20.536s64
7Nico HulkenbergSauber *de 1m20.699s79
8Nico RosbergMercedes *de 1m20.846s11
9Pastor MaldonadoWilliams *ve 1m20.864s84
10Giedo van der GardeCaterham *nl 1m21.915s64
11Max ChiltonMarussia *gb 1m24.176s29

McLaren, Mercedes and Marussia had problems (fuel pump, electrical fire and suspension respectively) which limited their running. Which makes JB's time all the more impressive. Not that we can read too much into one day's testing.

It will be mostly the same drivers tomorrow, before their partners switch in for Thursday and Friday. The exception being those teams (e.g. Force India) who haven't yet announced their full line up.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: cj2002 on February 05, 2013, 16:50
Car and Driver Line-Up 2013

Red Bull *at
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQINH4rwMXfZ8LPp9BTKWjgS9KMeepOCBbax28_vkLlql5VTMpNuA)
1Sebastien Vettel *de
2Mark Webber *au
RSebastien Buemi *ch

Ferrari *it
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMCZA3UdUWQ-VgibPB1ACqdmGoyw_vzD4bJFfmUU_VOPSLxtoj)
3Fernando Alonso *es
4Felipe Massa *br
RMarc Gene *be
RPedro de la Rosa *es

McLaren *gb
(http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/MG_5165-470x313.jpg)
5Jenson Button *gb
6Sergio Perez *mx
RGary Paffett *gb
ROliver Turvey *gb

Lotus *gb / *lu
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT8qaiTgKDKBoRZ4NixBApUGPaw7JXisfsRKPRRDsEnpPXz6s4zVA)
7Kimi Raikkonen *fi
8Romain Grosjean *fr
RJerome d'Ambrosio *be
RNicolas Prost *fr

Mercedes *de
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/2/4/1359997638381/Lewis-Hamilton-and-Nico-R-011.jpg)
9Nico Rosberg *de
10Lewis Hamilton *gb

Sauber *ch / *mx
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSyAOEj2g-VZq87Xm0_JA8bgZraAN3ix3Wfcs-VvS-PPMoyvW-6Ng)
11Nico Hulkenberg *de
12Esteban Gutierrez *mx
RRobin Frijns *nl

Force India *gb
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65648000/jpg/_65648467_thenewforceindiavjm06car.jpg)
14Paul di Resta *gb
15??

Williams *gb
Williams will launch their 2013 car at the Barcelona test on February 19th.
16Pastor Maldonado *ve
17Valteri Bottas *fi

Toro Rosso *it
(http://adamcooperf1.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/adam-cooper-str8-a-2013.jpg)
18Daniel Ricciardo *au
19Jean-Eric Vergne *fr

Caterham *my
(http://e1.365dm.com/13/02/660x350/Caterham-CT03-launch-2013_2895993.jpg)
20Charles Pic *fr
21Giedo van der Garde *nl

Marussia *ru
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyHDoLWNWSFKZ4zKIZFIEDui2DhGHyi7H1_eqNGmhLPvkKZ0Is)
22Luiz Razia *br
23Max Chilton *gb
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: cj2002 on February 06, 2013, 16:20
Testing Day 2

Highlight of the day was Lewis Hamilton trashing his new Mercedes early into the session. After Rosberg suffered with an electrical problem yesterday, the Silver Arrows have not been having a great start to pre-season. As for Lewis, well, there's one sure-fire way of peeing off your mechanics in your first day on the job..! :fp

Luis Razia was thrown right into the deep end; he was announced as Marussia's second driver this morning, and took his seat immediately to prop up the timesheets for the day.

Fastest Lap Times
1Romain GrosjeanLotus *fr1m18.218s
2Paul di RestaForce India *gb 1m19.003s
3Daniel RicciardoToro Rosso *au1m19.134s
4Mark WebberRed Bull *au1m19.338s
5Nico HulkenbergSauber *de1m19.502s
6Lewis HamiltonMercedes *gb1m19.519s
7Sergio PerezMcLaren *mx1m19.572s
8Felipe MassaFerrari *br1m19.914s
9Pastor MaldonadoWilliams *ve1m20.693s
10James RossiterForce India *gb1m21.273s
11Giedo van der GardeCaterham *nl1m21.311s
12Luiz RaziaMarussia *br1m23.537s
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: cj2002 on February 08, 2013, 09:25
Testing Day 3

"Ferrari's Felipe Massa fastest"

Well, 12 months ago we would never have imagined that...

In other news... Mercedes managed not to have an embarrassing failure, with Nico Rosberg clocking up 140 laps to add to Hamilton's, um... 15 yesterday. And defending champion Sebastien Vettel and former champion Kimi Raikkonen took their bows for the 2013 season.

Speaking of Kimi, Lotus are currently winning the humourous F1 tweet competition. Their official hashtag seems to be #ImSexyAndIKnowIt, and their feed from yesterday included these gems.

Quote
...usual first day with a driver in a new car. Got to relocate the cup holders to preference and change the carpet pile density

As everyone keeps asking for him, we've interrupted our tea and banter to send Kimi out again #ImSexyAndIKnowIt #Jerez

Back to the track Kimi, Ayao needs something to watch on the monitors #ImSexyAndIKnowIt #Jerez
and moments later...
Or maybe not. Push back, Kimi forgot his shopping list #ImSexyAndIKnowIt #Jerez pic.twitter.com/tdnwLJox

All of which comes after they released this picture of Kimi's steering wheel for the new car...

(http://bbcfastanddangerousau.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/kimis-new-steering-wheel.jpg?w=1600)

Anyway... some numbers:

Fastest Lap Times
1.Felipe Massa *br Ferrari1:17.879
2.Nico Rosberg *de Mercedes1:18.766
3.Sebastian Vetttel *deRed Bull-Renault1.19.052
4.Kimi Raikkonen *fiLotus-Renault1:19.200
5.Jean-Eric Vergne *frToro Rosso-Ferrari1:19.247
6.James Rossiter *gbForce India-Mercedes1.19.303
7.Jenson Button *gbMcLaren-Mercedes1:19.603
8.Esteban Gutierrez *mxSauber-Ferrari1:19.934
9.Max Chilton *gbMarussia-Cosworth1:21.454
10.Valtteri Bottas *fiWilliams-Renault1:21.5785
11.Charles Pic *frCaterham-Renault1:22.352
12.Paul di Resta *gbForce India-Mercedes1:23.729
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on February 10, 2013, 13:04
Condolences to DC and all his family; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-21395171 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-21395171)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on February 28, 2013, 20:10
Sutil confirmed to get the 2nd seat at Force India  :cheesy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/21618551 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/21618551)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on March 01, 2013, 19:04
...and the sponsors of Luis Razia are not as well funded as they were expected to be -> no money, no race seat. Bianchi takes the 2nd seat at Marussia

Jules Bianchi to replace Luiz Razia in Marussia Formula 1 team (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105789)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 14, 2013, 19:42
Really interesting look at how aerodynamics work on the car: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/21766930 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/21766930)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 15, 2013, 21:49
Two practice sessions into the new season and based on what's happened so far, anyone willing to bet against another year of Red Bull dominance?   :'(
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on March 15, 2013, 21:52
yeah, it looks like, but with relatively few changes in regulations and less room for innovations this was always the way it was expected to be

there is supposed to be rain tomorrow for the qualifying thought and the new (much softer) tyres will play a big role, especially for the first races of the season, so we should still see a couple of surprise winners over and generally interesting (though maybe confusing) races the coming weeks
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on March 15, 2013, 22:02
by the way, the best german motorsports commentator suddenly has retired and my favorite F1 show The Flying Lap has been cancelled for a lack of money (what a joke, the costs for that show must be peanuts for everyone involved in F1 funding) - so that's not exactly a good start...
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 16, 2013, 19:19
Formula 1 thread rocking, awesome, guys.

Search, we always had a popular show before F1 as build-up & they'd chat and recap and discuss stuff between qualy laps - that's been cancelled suddenly too! Also the City of Cape Town said no to a GP "too much noise"

BOOOO!
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Archieboy on March 16, 2013, 21:30
Also the City of Cape Town said no to a GP "too much noise"

BOOOO!


This in the country that spoilt a World Cup with the bl**dy vuvuzela, them things were to much noise ;) ;)

Hope the newbie has a good race, Max Chilton, lets see him be safe and not be a problem to anyone else..
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on March 17, 2013, 09:11
Kimi won, good race today. Great comeback for Sutil with 7th place. Don't know what happened to Grosjean though, one lap down while his teammate won the race...
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 17, 2013, 09:17
It was a cracker of a race - Jenson's still my first love but you can also gimme Kimi any day of the week!
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 17, 2013, 09:19
This in the country that spoilt a World Cup with the bl**dy vuvuzela, them things were to much noise ;) ;)

Zegactly!
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 20, 2013, 18:28
So Kimi was quoted as saying it wasn't particularly hard for him to win in Melbourne - I LOVE IT - fun times in F1!

On to Malaysia next, another F1 this coming Sunday, love back-to-back F1 weekends.
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 24, 2013, 10:21
What. a. race.

Started liking Webber last year-ish. Now I like him even more.

Can't help thinking that if it was Schumi in Webbo's shoes somebody would've gotten a man slap or shove on the podium today :-D

PS Whathaf*ck was Alonso thinking? He should've pitted right after the 1st lap, that wing was hanging by a thread.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: sublimit on March 24, 2013, 11:34
It was a cracker of a race - Jenson's still my first love but you can also gimme Kimi any day of the week!

A personality over looks enthusiast I see.   :rolleye     :lol
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on March 24, 2013, 12:31
Can't help thinking that if it was Schumi in Webbo's shoes somebody would've gotten a man slap or shove on the podium today :-D

yeah, that was really poor sportsmanship by Vettel, at first requesting the team to get Webber out of the way and later on overtaking him while knowing that they got told to reduce engine power and cruise to the win.

generally I prefer the drivers, also teammates, to fight out their positions on track and I was disgusted to see Rosberg not being allowed to overtake Hamilton - but Vettel making use of your teammate's honesty (who believed in what the team said and did cut back engine power) in that way was really really poor.
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 24, 2013, 13:12
I agree, Search.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: FreeWheelin on March 24, 2013, 23:30
How funny was it when Lewis went to the wrong pit! 
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 25, 2013, 03:33
Totally, I was howling with laughter. And later on the podium he said 'I pulled a Jenson' cos apparently JB used to get lost too..
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 25, 2013, 07:03
JB did a few years ago - I think when he had just moved to McLaren. 

As for the race itself, wow...  Not a fan of Vettel, and today only confirmed that opinion.  Drove like a selfish pr*ck - Horner said at the end that sometimes drivers put their own needs above that of the team, and this seemed like a classic case of that.  Although he's a good driver, he's had virtually everything handed to him on a plate, and has previous of when things don't quite go his way.  Am really hoping that Ferrari, Mercedes and Lotus sort it out and push Red Bull really hard this year - I want to see Vettel implode...  :)

The Mercedes issue seemed different to me - Hamilton was having to go so slowly, and Rosberg could have passed him very easily using DRS (so not 'dangerously' like Vettel/Webber), so what was their issue?  They would still have got 3rd and 4th, so the order mattered that much?  Sucks for Rosberg if that is the case, but think Hamilton showed a bit of class at the end.

Finally, the footage from the room they sit in before going on the podium was awesome - toe curling-ly awkward, but couldn't take my eyes off the screen!
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 25, 2013, 08:24
Ditto!
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 25, 2013, 15:27
Saw this on Twitter and couldn't resist..
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Kvinto on March 25, 2013, 19:36
I love this one:

(http://i.imgur.com/q9FVq9z.png)
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on March 25, 2013, 19:54
Oh, and I was disappointed about Jenson's pit though, WTF McLaren? And sorry that Kimi was lower down, makes it more interesting. Mercedes also got two strong contenders? 2013 could be wild.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: lancasterke on March 25, 2013, 19:59
i'm not really an F1 aficienado, but i think it damages the sport that drivers aren't allowed to race their team mate. it improved the spectacle that webber and vettel were fighting, and perfectly contrasted with rosberg, not being allowed to overtake his team mate.
the sport should try to avoid processions, and on sunday, only the red bulls could compete with each other. the sport gets quite dull if the top 4 follow each other round for the last 15 laps because they're not allowed to overtake.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on March 25, 2013, 20:47
Oh, and I was disappointed about Jenson's pit though, WTF McLaren?

Happened at Silverstone (I think) last year as well.  Got as far as the pit lane exit on that occasion though before the wheel fell off (luckily before he got up to speed).  Been a bad habit of McLaren's in the last few years - silly errors that constantly undermine them.  Similar with Alonso - why did he stay out?  For all the handbags at dawn between their drivers, Red Bull seem to not make any mistakes at all...ever.  Seriously impressive when you think about it.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 10, 2013, 18:53
my favorite F1 show The Flying Lap has been cancelled for a lack of money (what a joke, the costs for that show must be peanuts for everyone involved in F1 funding) - so that's not exactly a good start...

there's a new online show with Peter Windsor, The racer's edge, if anyone is interested, it will be live on youtube in 10 minutes. This week's guest is Craig Scarborough, who's technical knowledge is jsut incredible. I do not understand most of the stuff he is talking (and writing about) but it's still fascinating

http://www.youtube.com/peterwindsor (http://www.youtube.com/peterwindsor)
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 12, 2013, 05:16
"@JollyBagman: Sebastian Vettel backflips on apology to Webber.....
http://t.co/93rxvUMfFL"

Quote
Sebastian Vettel says Mark Webber didn't deserve to win Malaysian Grand Prix

SEBASTIAN Vettel has admitted his decision to defy team orders and overtake Mark Webber to win the Malaysian Grand Prix was motivated by revenge.

In an astonishing interview before Sunday's Chinese Grand Prix, Vettel said his decision to snatch the victory from Webber in Malaysia amounted to payback.

Vettel said: "Being completely honest, I've never had support from his side. There has been more than one occasion when he could have helped the team, but didn't."

Yikes!

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/motor-sport/sebastian-vettel-says-mark-webber-didnt-deserve-to-win-malaysian-grand-prix/story-fnec578q-1226619053063
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 12, 2013, 07:51
yeah, finally it's race weekend again, so back to business - I don't mind that. But he has to prove it now and destroy Webber on the track this weekend if he does not want to make a fool out of himself
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 12, 2013, 08:43
I hear you! Exciting stuff :)
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 12, 2013, 08:48
Just saw this

"@andrewbensonf1: Must-read stuff from @LewisHamilton in his latest BBC column, on team orders and his first two races with Mercedes http://t.co/Vb2wvrOVIF"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22115827
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 13, 2013, 06:10
Quali this morning, woohoo.
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 13, 2013, 20:43
Webber out again! Ran out of fuel? Um.
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 14, 2013, 12:36
Happy for Alo, and even Jenson's 5th was a highlight. Regarding all the DRS issues:

"@f1zone: News filtering in that no further action has been taken on the DRS infringements #f1 #ChineseGP"
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Kvinto on April 14, 2013, 13:12
This was an excellent race. Any race that sees Christian Horner's 'favourite child' out of podium is a win in my book.

Poor Webber was given a three-pace grid penalty for Bahrain for the incedent with Jean-Eric Vergne. Ironically all the sh*t that happened to Mark this racing weekend took place at the moment when he was just ahead of his obnoxious teammate  :angry
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dim on April 14, 2013, 17:31
Watched a bit of this this afternoon, first time in a long long time, and can see why its losing popularity..

How confusing?? What the hell happened to good old fashioned graphics with

Driver 1/Team -----------------gap--------------- Driver 2/Team

and then

Driver 2/team ----------------- gap -------------- Driver 3/team

I watched for about ten minutes.. after ten minutes of trying to decipher the 3 letter driver names, work out what team they were driving for, and try and figure out the time gaps, I gave up.. non the wiser.. Alonso was leading but beyond that I was totally clueless.

How the hell new viewers are supposed to cope I dont know..
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 16, 2013, 06:53
"@f1enigma: Bahrain Grand Prix: Hackers Anonymous threaten Bernie Ecclestone with online anarchy unless he... http://t.co/jG6jHeIEE3 via @MailOnline"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2309459/Bahrain-Grand-Prix-Hackers-Anonymous-threaten-Bernie-Ecclestone-online-anarchy-unless-calls-race.html

I have to say I have heard loads of what is happening in Bahrain, and I would prefer the race not to take place there.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 16, 2013, 06:56
Ditto.  But as far as Bernie is concerned, money talks, and everything else can take a hike. 

Force India were attacked in some way last year to/from the Bahrain track, so can't imagine they are looking forward to it too much. 
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 16, 2013, 07:44
"@andrewbensonf1: Bernie Ecclestone says he understands Bahrain protestors' grievances and is willing to meet opposition figures http://t.co/7lY65PGXQH"

Quote
If some of his past comments have made light of the unrest, he made clear this time that he understood both sides of the argument and was not insensitive to the opposition.

"We are extremely sympathetic to them," he said. "Don't forget, I was the one, when we had the apartheid in South Africa, who pulled the race."

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKL3N0D378320130416?irpc=401

International man of mystery?
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 16, 2013, 09:36
Watched a bit of this this afternoon, first time in a long long time, and can see why its losing popularity..

How confusing?? What the hell happened to good old fashioned graphics with

Driver 1/Team -----------------gap--------------- Driver 2/Team

and then

Driver 2/team ----------------- gap -------------- Driver 3/team

Dave, this just makes you sound like a grumpy old man ;)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Kvinto on April 16, 2013, 13:26
Yep, I'd say f1 saw much worse times in terms of watchability and current graphs is quite OK. There's been a lot of bs seasons in noughties, that pushed me to give up watching f1 at some point to only come back last year and what I saw appeared more watchable to me. It's more like they're on the upwards trend, regaining the popularity they've lost, than vice versa, though that's only my personal impression which I cannot back up with numbers.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dim on April 16, 2013, 13:36
Dave, this just makes you sound like a grumpy old man ;)

Not grumpy.. just didnt get it.. Having not watched for a while I dont know which team everyone is racing for, and there was no indication onscreen of what team they raced for.. And all those three letter code names..

If youve been watching F1 a while you know what all the three letter codes are, you know what teams everyone is racing for, but as a newbie or someone like me who hasnt watch in years it was confusing as hell.. i gave up..
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 16, 2013, 14:16
If youve been watching F1 a while you know what all the three letter codes are, you know what teams everyone is racing for, but as a newbie or someone like me who hasnt watch in years it was confusing as hell.. i gave up..

yeah, I believe it may be confusing at the start but it's a matter of 5 minutes to figure that out and the current information level is way better suited to regular viewers. I mean, you look at a startlist before you watch a cycling race (where are 200 starters), it's not so much of a problem to look up 22 F1 drivers.

And it's not like the three letter code for Lewis Hamilton is XYZ, it's HAM

F1 is way better than a couple of years ago, more entertaining and diversified
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on April 16, 2013, 14:23
If youve been watching F1 a while you know what all the three letter codes are, you know what teams everyone is racing for, but as a newbie or someone like me who hasnt watch in years it was confusing as hell.. i gave up..

...compared to a certain sport where you mainly see everyone from a helicopter or the front and where you cannot see anyone's numbers...  without the commentators calling the names you wouldn't have a clue who the torsos passing the camera actually are....    :D
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: LukasCPH on April 16, 2013, 14:34
...compared to a certain sport where you mainly see everyone from a helicopter or the front and where you cannot see anyone's numbers...  without the commentators calling the names you wouldn't have a clue who the torsos passing the camera actually are....    :D
The difference is that these competitors move forward on their own power, while the others push pedals and turn a wheel to control an engine that moves them around.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 16, 2013, 14:42
nah, that's a totally different matter
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 16, 2013, 17:04
Fyi Dim.  As Search said, it's just the first 3 letters of their surnames.  Only exception was Schumacher who for some reason was MSC, rather than SCH.  Anywho...

Red Bull: Vettel = VET, Webber = WEB
Ferrari: Alonso = ALO, Massa = MAS
McLaren: Button = BUT, Perez = PER
Mercedes: Hamilton = HAM, Rosberg = ROS
Lotus: Raikkonen = RAI, Grosjean = GRO
Force India: Di Resta = DIR, Sutil = SUT
Toro Rosso: Riccardo = RIC, Vergne = VER
Sauber: Hulkenberg = HUL, Gutierrez = GUT
Williams: Maldonado = MAL, Bottas = BOT
Marussia: Bianchi = BIA, Chilton = CHI
Caterham: Van Der Garde = VDG, Pic = PIC

And Sir Stirling... Discuss  :rolleye
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22083547 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22083547)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 16, 2013, 17:08
Only exception was Schumacher who for some reason was MSC, rather than SCH.

it's because there were two of them, Michael and Ralf.

and btw, Ralf has left F1 a couple of years ago, so we might have these three letter codes since 10 years or something like that
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 16, 2013, 17:11
it's because there were two of them, Michael and Ralf.

and btw, Ralf has left F1 a couple of years ago, so we might have these three letter codes since 10 years or something like that

Knew it was something like that, but could never work out why (during his comeback at least...) seeing as Ralf wasn't around any more
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 16, 2013, 22:10
Following on from Stirling Moss's comments, documentary on BBC about Suzie Wolff - really interesting.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01rk3bv/Driven_The_Fastest_Woman_in_the_World/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01rk3bv/Driven_The_Fastest_Woman_in_the_World/)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dim on April 16, 2013, 22:46
and of that list I have heard of 8 of them.. (i wac
Fyi Dim.  As Search said, it's just the first 3 letters of their surnames.  Only exception was Schumacher who for some reason was MSC, rather than SCH.  Anywho...

Red Bull: Vettel = VET, Webber = WEB
Ferrari: Alonso = ALO, Massa = MAS
McLaren: Button = BUT, Perez = PER
Mercedes: Hamilton = HAM, Rosberg = ROS
Lotus: Raikkonen = RAI, Grosjean = GRO
Force India: Di Resta = DIR, Sutil = SUT
Toro Rosso: Riccardo = RIC, Vergne = VER
Sauber: Hulkenberg = HUL, Gutierrez = GUT
Williams: Maldonado = MAL, Bottas = BOT
Marussia: Bianchi = BIA, Chilton = CHI
Caterham: Van Der Garde = VDG, Pic = PIC

And Sir Stirling... Discuss  :rolleye
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22083547 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22083547)
and having been away from F1 i have heard of a grand total of 8 of those..
and the only ones i could tell you which team they were on was alonso and massa..
hence my complete and utter confusion.. sure it used to be simpler.

it was definately easier when they had full names with their team name next to them..
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 16, 2013, 22:49
sorry Dim, but that's like switching on cycling and wondering why it's not Mario Cipollini who is wearing the rainbow jersey  :D
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 17, 2013, 08:37
"@f1zone: Kovalainen rejoining Caterham means Rossi moves to GP2. Ma still part of the team, but no longer a reserve driver #f1"

What the?
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 19, 2013, 07:01
It's da weekend and F1 time. I'm not happy with the location but I'm going to watch. I did consider not watching because of it, but in some way the F1 does highlight what is happening in Bahrain, so in that sense some good comes of it? A lot of people probably wouldn't even have a clue about what's going on there otherwise?
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 20, 2013, 08:18
"@fieldproducer: First picture of #F1's Bernie Ecclestone in #Bahrain shows why he thinks everything is absolutely fine... http://t.co/BI8YHloL"

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/20/u6e7atas.jpg)
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 20, 2013, 08:37
Quote
haven't seen any of the people here wanting to go to Syria or Saudi Arabia," Ecclestone said with a shrug. "There are lots of places they could go – Iran, if they wanted. But they seem happy to stay."

Ecclestone, asked whether he still felt that the arrival here of his glamorous circus brought benefits to the country, said: "Absolutely. Think about it. Had you ever heard of Bahrain before this race? Nobody had. They thought it was somewhere south of Florida."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/ecclestone-defiant-as-bahrain-protests-rage-29209287.html

Paragraph 1 - Bernie 'Why-don't-they-eat-cake' you c*nt :nuts

Paragraph 2 - I think he's got a point.
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 20, 2013, 09:44
"@FakeTomita: Stars' tribute to Mark Webber on his 200th GP this Sunday! #f1 #webber  http://t.co/J7ehn7NhmB"

http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/f1/posts/1331586910204/i-m-proud-to-have-made-the-200-club
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 20, 2013, 11:32
"@fieldproducer: First picture of #F1's Bernie Ecclestone in #Bahrain shows why he thinks everything is absolutely fine... http://t.co/BI8YHloL (http://t.co/BI8YHloL)"

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/20/u6e7atas.jpg)

But in Bahrain there is soooooooooooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch mooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnney!  And Bernie likes that  ;)


Plus he's a total tool
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 20, 2013, 11:38
But in Bahrain there is soooooooooooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch mooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnney!  And Bernie likes that  ;)


Plus he's a total tool

:lol Too true!
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 20, 2013, 11:42
qualifying should be a cracker, Kimi is well within reach to get pole I think
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 20, 2013, 11:48
qualifying should be a cracker, Kimi is well within reach to get pole I think

Agreed, I can't wait.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on April 20, 2013, 21:17
Wait, hang on.  It's not Bernie's fault after all, it's that silly Bahranian government.  How silly of us to think otherwise...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22231448 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22231448)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dim on April 20, 2013, 22:09
Simply put, this race should not be taking place, not in this country. The same as we should not be giving countries like China who continue to murder 10's oif hundreds of people each year for minor crimes, olympic games, or bike races.

We are quick enough to impose sanctions on smaller countries, or places like SA during apartheid, but places with money, get a free pass whatever human rights laws they break.. Mosques destroyed, human rights activists imprisoned without trial, systematic discrimination against the Shia population, described as "apartheid" by multiple scholars and writers, medical workers imprisoned.. Disgraceful country.

but this is for the politics thread..
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 21, 2013, 20:37
H O L Y   S H I T!  W H A T   A   R A C E!

And Vettel *might* just get a taste of what Sagan did just a few weeks ago..

http://chrisonf1.com/2013/04/21/vettel-puts-his-foot-in-his-mouth/
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 21, 2013, 21:39
You gotta give it to Fernando Alonso

"@SomersF1: The DRS top flap of @alo_oficial was actually wide open for laps 5,6 and 7. Exceptionally skillful driving!"

and then he managed to hang in there with the big boys with no DRS for the rest of it.

Wow.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 21, 2013, 21:47
Simply put, this race should not be taking place, not in this country. The same as we should not be giving countries like China who continue to murder 10's oif hundreds of people each year for minor crimes, olympic games, or bike races.

I think the positive thing about having this grand prix in Bahrain is that it comes together with some kind of coverage about the problems and injustices over there which is not covert by mass media at all, apart from that.  Although the GP itself gives the government to exploit themselves in a positive way and they are certainly supported by Ecclestone, so it propably should not take place, yes.

today's race itself was still good though. Too bad Alonso couldn't find for the win due to his mechanical problem but apart from Vettel cruising to the victory there was a lot of very good race action
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 21, 2013, 21:49
and then he managed to hang in there with the big boys with no DRS for the rest of it.

Wow.

yeah, but Ferrari screwed it up big time by not telling him not to use it anymore at first. If they did he would not have had to stop a 2nd time in 2 laps and propably could have even fighted for the podium, despite his problem

btw, it's a pity that Sutil lost more than a minute due to his contact with Massa in the 1st lap, from that point on he was matching Vettel's pace for the whole race but could not even score a point with that ~1 minute deficit.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dim on April 21, 2013, 22:24
I think the positive thing about having this grand prix in Bahrain is that it comes together with some kind of coverage about the problems and injustices over there which is not covert by mass media at all, apart from that.  Although the GP itself gives the government to exploit themselves in a positive way and they are certainly supported by Ecclestone, so it propably should not take place, yes.

today's race itself was still good though. Too bad Alonso couldn't find for the win due to his mechanical problem but apart from Vettel cruising to the victory there was a lot of very good race action
Yeh, give them a sporting event so we can all discover what aholes they are :( Sorry, nothing ever convinces me that certain places should have the privalege of hosting sports events.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 21, 2013, 22:29
Yeh, give them a sporting event so we can all discover what aholes they are

I'm not talking about the event itself obviously. But did you read/hear anything about the situation in Qatar since the last grand prix?! I didn't
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dim on April 21, 2013, 22:34
I'm not talking about the event itself obviously. But did you read/hear anything about the situation in Qatar since the last grand prix?! I didn't

Well i did, but then i follow anonymousops and various other reactionary groups on twitter. :D
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 22, 2013, 06:50
"@f1enigma: Lloyds Banking Group has sold its 25.3pc stake in the MarussiaF1 after it made huge losses and failed to perform on track. @FormulaMoney"
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 22, 2013, 12:01
Simply put, this race should not be taking place, not in this country. The same as we should not be giving countries like China who continue to murder 10's oif hundreds of people each year for minor crimes, olympic games, or bike races.

We are quick enough to impose sanctions on smaller countries, or places like SA during apartheid, but places with money, get a free pass whatever human rights laws they break.. Mosques destroyed, human rights activists imprisoned without trial, systematic discrimination against the Shia population, described as "apartheid" by multiple scholars and writers, medical workers imprisoned.. Disgraceful country.

but this is for the politics thread..

Dave, you and I are in agreement re all of the above. Just remember these countries are not the only states guilty of crimes against humanity. West is best and east is evil?
Title: Re: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dim on April 23, 2013, 12:36
Dave, you and I are in agreement re all of the above. Just remember these countries are not the only states guilty of crimes against humanity. West is best and east is evil?

When have I ever said that? I think USA having the death penalty is disgusting, and both Bush and Blair should be charged with war crimes.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on April 23, 2013, 12:44
Valid observation that I had been thinking of making...  nice one.

The race shouldn't have happened in either of the last two years.  But people need to be very careful to not overly generalize the observations.  I am pretty sure that it would be possible for someone who was willing to go to the effort to come up with a reason to attack the hosting of a GP in all existing host countries.

eg ( a LASZY eg though): 
US - I thought they were in fiscal distress and fighting loudly about how to deal with deficit
Australia - Treatment of Aborigines is ongoing, not to mention behaviour towards valid refugees who arrive by boat (whilst having a completely different attitude towards white refugees such as Tanzanians)
Japan - Shouldn't they put the money towards the Tsunami relief effort?
Britain - Contributor to dodgy (lets call it illegal for the sake of it) war in Iraq... with others above obviously
Eurozone - so many countries that are close to fiscal collapse and many of those are running GPs....

Anyway, the above is tongue in cheek but you get the idea.  Comparative discussions open argument pathways that are the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot
Title: Re: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on April 23, 2013, 12:45
When have I ever said that? I think USA having the death penalty is disgusting, and both Bush and Blair should be charged with war crimes.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

What I said.
AFTER you
using many more words....

LOL
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dim on April 23, 2013, 13:16
What I said.
AFTER you
using many more words....

LOL

I tend to reserve, my biggest hatred for those countries that commit crimes against their own people.. To an extent crimes of one country on another the international community is there to sort out.. Crimes against your own people seem to go largely unpunished.
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 24, 2013, 20:10
When have I ever said that? I think USA having the death penalty is disgusting, and both Bush and Blair should be charged with war crimes.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

Dave, if I was quoting you I would've
Quote
quoted
you - the question was there to make us look at the situation from another perspective - thought that was the point of a forum?
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on April 30, 2013, 11:40
12 May in Barcelona. McLaren us due a big update, and have intimated that if this does not make the car competitive, there championship hopes will be transferred to 2014.

BOOOOOO!

Jenson did semi-okay, even with that car, I'm ever hopeful & optimistic. And how was Perez? Jensie is my first love, but McLaren is my team - I'll take it if Checo's got it.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on May 01, 2013, 12:51
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIYBp6pCEAAvth9.jpg)

19 years today
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on May 01, 2013, 16:18
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIYBp6pCEAAvth9.jpg)

19 years today

Yeah, can't beleive it's nearly 2 decades since.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: S-Works on May 08, 2013, 05:30
I've been a fan of Fernando Alonso since 2004...
if Ferrari gave him a better car, right now he'd have 2 more titles to his name, I'm damn sure of this.
Best driver in F1 right now, not only my opinion, but that of most of his colleagues.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on May 09, 2013, 22:41
if anyone is interested, the new episode of The Racer's Edge has been released today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPSl3cbFgo

there's a long interview with Jarno Trulli which is awesome, he is so passionate, great guy
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on May 09, 2013, 22:45
....and while talking about Jarno, his pole lap in Monaco was propably one of the most perfect laps ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTS0qM7BJ6s
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: S-Works on May 10, 2013, 04:43
My cousin in Italy lives across the street from his parents...
I also met him here in Toronto a couple of years ago, he was promoting his wines, very down-to-earth guy.
Title: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on May 18, 2013, 13:56
Quote
@f1fanatic_co_uk: Comment: Bungling the tyre row will give F1 a tainted title fight: http://t.co/HIQhYAjOxG #F1

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/05/18/f1-bungled-call-tyres/
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on June 20, 2013, 23:40
not exactly F1 related, but there was an excellent interview with Allan McNish in today's show of The Racer's Edge, about his career and the 24 Hours of Le Mans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsM7ijIcwWQ
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: LukasCPH on June 21, 2013, 08:34
Le Mans is the only motorsport I watch.
It compares to F1 as Paris-Roubaix does to a parking lot criterium. :D
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on June 21, 2013, 19:42
Le Mans is the only motorsport I watch.
It compares to F1 as Paris-Roubaix does to a parking lot criterium. :D

I've been watching loads Le Mans lately Fus :-)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on June 21, 2013, 19:57
Le Mans thread? Or is there not enough to say...
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on June 21, 2013, 19:58
not exactly F1 related, but there was an excellent interview with Allan McNish in today's show of The Racer's Edge, about his career and the 24 Hours of Le Mans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsM7ijIcwWQ

Thanks Search.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: LukasCPH on June 21, 2013, 21:16
I've been watching loads Le Mans lately Fus :-)
I guess you're talking about the Le Mans Series (which I know next to nothing about)?
Not the real thing. It's like saying GP Herning is Paris-Roubaix. It's a great race in itself, but it's not the real thing.

Anyway, that's splitting hairs.
Le Mans (the real thing) will be just what I need tomorrow to either celebrate how awesome everything went, or to forget how absolutely horrible it was. :D
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on June 21, 2013, 21:27
I'm not around for the weekend unfortunately, always love to watch a couple of hours during nighttime when half the paddock is chilling at eurosport, analyzing the race

unfortunately it looks like Toyota is not fast enough, they just lack power. They have an advantage on fuel efficiency but most likely it will not be enough to fight for the win. But anyway, who knows, it's still a 24 hours race, won by consistency, and also the weather could play its part
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: kabloemski on June 21, 2013, 22:40
Ha ha the series yes, but watched the highlights from this week in prep for tomorrow's real race :-)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on July 17, 2013, 12:28
Go Susie!  Hope she goes well

http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12476/8825245/Susie-Wolff-and-Daniel-Juncadella-will-join-Pastor-Maldonado-at-this-week-s-Young-Driver-Test (http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12476/8825245/Susie-Wolff-and-Daniel-Juncadella-will-join-Pastor-Maldonado-at-this-week-s-Young-Driver-Test)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on August 24, 2013, 11:49
great footage of the 1955 belgian grand prix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAiKovUL8FM&feature=player_embedded#t=0
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on August 27, 2013, 02:12
No recent comments on F1?

What about:

Who will actually get Webber's seat?  Is it a done deal or is there something on in the back room?

Will Michelin really step in for next year (Decision has to happen before October)

Where will Raikkonen end up?

Was Grosjean's penalty in Hungary for the Massa overtake fair?

What is going on with Ross Brawn at Mercedes?
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on August 27, 2013, 07:54
nope, the penalty for Grosjean was a joke I think. same for the penalty for Maldonado this weekend btw, these guys get penalized because of their past, not because of what happened during the race

and Jordan said Ricciardo would get Webber's seat, usually he knows what he is talking about
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on August 28, 2013, 10:59
Not sure about Maldonado ...

I heard the "hopped to right " comment but can't help thinking he was instinctively diving for the pit entry....
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on September 06, 2013, 00:04
another great episode of The Racer's Edge, a must-watch for those who like Ferrari and are interested in motor racing history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpoJklOcImU&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on September 22, 2013, 18:45
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUx0vQxCUAARZyR.jpg:large)

...following a reprimand for Webber because he "went onto the track without the permission of marshals" - it's his third this year, and therefor he will get a 10 place grid penalty for the next race in Korea :fp
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on September 23, 2013, 00:25
Its a shame because it was a brilliant image.  A reminder of Senna and Mansell half a lifetime ago.m  Pretty funny how Alonso couldn't possibly see to his left though due to the leg...

Felt sorry for Webber given how he was doing before his engine started to let go.  Pushing up through the field and starting to distance the two Mercedes and then he gets the radio calls and becomes a rolling chicane.  To top it off he gets toasted instead of making it to the finish line.  I only saw a moment of the engine fire before coverage cut to Seb crossing the line.  Looked like it was going to be nasty though.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on September 23, 2013, 05:49
Yeesh  I have since seen the footage of Fernando stopping on the racing line to pick up Mark.  From Lewis' viewpoint that was a bit scary.  I know he was only doing around 100kph but still he had to go over the outside ripple strip to avoid the back of the unexpected Ferrari.

That said - I still think it is a sucky response to give Mark a 10 place penalty next weekend.  It was a great image for F1 to see Mark riding the outside of the car to get home.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on September 23, 2013, 05:51
oh and Hulkenberg was pretty much robbed having to give up his position (note that I didn't say "give the position back").  he was ahead and driving at the limit and got baulked out of the outside of the corner and had to give up the position.  Not great.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on September 28, 2013, 18:40
Went to see Rush last night - the film about the Hunt vs Lauda rivalry.  Highly recommended - both the missus and I really enjoyed it.  Not knowing a huge amount about the rivalry beforehand, I thought it was excellent.  Found myself really rooting for Lauda - efficient and rationally brilliant, where as my better half (helped no doubt by Chris Hemsworth getting his kit off on more than one occasion) preferred Hunt.  Anywho, go see it :)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on September 28, 2013, 19:14
thanks, I was surprised to see all the good critics, I was a bit sceptical as there basically weren't any good motorsport movies since Grand Prix and Le Mans like ~40 or 50 years ago, but I guess I have to give this one a try then
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Dancing on the Pedals on October 05, 2013, 10:37
Vettel on pole .  Spoiler alert, Vettel wins tomorrow after opening up an unassailable gap in the first 2 laps.

In other news, apparently night follows day.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on October 05, 2013, 11:20
it's difficult to maintain the 1st position at the start in Korea because of the long straight into a headwind afterwards - and there is some rain forecasted. So there is still some hope for an interesting race

edit: that forecast was from yesterday though, looks like rain is unlikely now
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Ram on October 12, 2013, 03:01
RIP Maria di Villota
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on October 12, 2013, 08:48
RIP Maria di Villota

Agreed.
Utterly shocked to see the news overnight.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: sublimit on October 12, 2013, 14:51
I feel sad about that,      seems she died due to the injuries she sustained.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24505702
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Ram on October 16, 2013, 19:48
How weird and sad is this? Sean Edwards was killed in a racing accident yesterday. Apparently having a strong Porsche Supercup this season. He also played his father, Guy, in some scenes of the film Rush (nice film). Guy pulled Lauda out of his car.

RIP
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Martin318is on October 16, 2013, 21:22
Not racing,  he was teaching a 20yr old racer from the passenger seat.  Quite a tragic way for a race driver to lose his life.  Can only imagine how the surviving driver will feel when he recovers....
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Ram on October 17, 2013, 06:28
Not racing,  he was teaching a 20yr old racer from the passenger seat.  Quite a tragic way for a race driver to lose his life.  Can only imagine how the surviving driver will feel when he recovers....
Cheers...  I can think of one similar instance involving a promising sportsman, Collie Smith's death with Sobers on the wheel. He lived with that and recollects playing for him after that. Took him a long time though.

It was an accident, hope it's not an albatross around the driver's neck.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on October 24, 2013, 18:56
Formula 1 drivers follow Lincolnshire man's circuit lines on Grand Prix track (http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/Formula-1-drivers-follow-Lincolnshire-man-s/story-19983738-detail/story.html)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on October 24, 2013, 22:24
http://escapeartistdesign.net/f1-old-liveries.html

"What would it look like if the team liveries from years gone by were still in use today… pretty nice we think!"

(http://escapeartistdesign.net/img/projects/f1/f1-old-williams.jpg)
(http://escapeartistdesign.net/img/projects/f1/f1-old-mclaren.jpg)
(http://escapeartistdesign.net/img/projects/f1/f1-old-tyrrell.jpg)
(http://escapeartistdesign.net/img/projects/f1/f1-old-hesketh.jpg)
(http://escapeartistdesign.net/img/projects/f1/f1-old-benetton.jpg)
(http://escapeartistdesign.net/img/projects/f1/f1-old-jordan.jpg)
(http://escapeartistdesign.net/img/projects/f1/f1-old-lotus.jpg)
(http://escapeartistdesign.net/img/projects/f1/f1-old-brabham.jpg)

Williams and Tyrrell, just awesome designs
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Ram on November 04, 2013, 04:54
So the Indian GP will continue in 2015 and six years hence IF the govt recognises F1 as a sport and docks the entertainment tax. This is one race I won't really give a crap if it were cancelled. All reports in the papers have it as a riders' favourite, but from a personal POV, it's led to some rather one track and crap racing (from the 2012 and 13 Indian GPs, forgetting what happened in '11). Red Bull really took the mickey last year on the long corner mid circuit being a second faster than everyone.
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on March 15, 2014, 23:08
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiqvcvOIgAAvnIO.jpg)
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on March 20, 2014, 21:57
great interview, looking forward to the other parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lo-fI99xkk
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: search on April 30, 2014, 08:54
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmc14rLIIAATDOx.jpg:large)

April 30th, 20 years after, by his team mate David Brabham

http://www.brabham.co.uk/news/david-brabham-blog-imola-1994/


in light of tomorrow's day Sky Sports F1 has released a feature too. Haven't seen it yet, but apparently it's brilliant as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFUZuMBPq9o

can't really believe this happened 20 years ago, I remember that whole weekend as if it was yesterday
Title: Re: Formula 1 - 2013
Post by: Leadbelly on April 30, 2014, 09:22
Here's something you might be interested in then search - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01y3p2j

Radio programme next Monday (but presumably on the iplayer after that for a week).

Quote
The Boy From Brazil - Ayrton Senna in Norfolk
Duration: 1 hour
First broadcast: Monday 05 May 2014
Marking the 20th anniversary of his death at the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix, Rob Bonnet presents a look back at Ayrton Senna's early career in Norfolk, and the years before his world championships with McLaren and his infamous rivalry with Alain Prost.

The Boy From Brazil tells the story of Senna's first years as a racing driver, arriving to live in Norfolk in 1981 and moving up through the ranks from Formula Ford, to his tooth-and-nail battle with King's Lynn's Martin Brundle for the British Formula Three championship, and making his name in Formula One with the last ever victories won by Ketteringham Hall-based Team Lotus. Featuring new interviews with his Formula Ford team bosses, Martin Brundle, and former Lotus mechanics, along with rarely-heard archive commentary from Senna's pre-Formula One days.

Can't vouch for it being any good or saying anything new, but there it is.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on June 05, 2014, 19:51
Montréal this weekend, too bad it's not in October anymore

(http://k41.kn3.net/taringa/9/9/3/3/9/5/9/river_stone/ECE.jpg?6345)
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: labratty on August 05, 2014, 13:32
So, did Bernie E just bribe the courts with 100 million to drop the bribery charges against him?  :lol  :shh
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on August 05, 2014, 13:36
yes, a very good year for the state of Bavaria, first 40 Million Euro from Hoeness, now ~75 from Ecclestone...
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Archieboy on September 30, 2014, 13:19
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29408212

Gonna beat the previous youngest by over two years, hope he can be safe..
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on September 30, 2014, 13:25
yeh, not sure its a good move. The usual Toro Rosso policy is to give the young drivers ~two years to convince them of their abilities - so if he needs some time to acclimatize his career could be over at the age of 19
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on October 02, 2014, 10:16
it's not looking too good for Caterham F1

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/future-of-caterham-f1-in-doubt-after-bailiffs-move-in/

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‘By order of The Sheriffs Office, authorised High Court Enforcement Officers, we hereby announce the impending sale of goods seized and removed from a Formula One team.

The goods include but are not limited to:
Caterham F1 test car (2013)
Caterham F1 car parts (due for Japan 2014)
Full size 6 DOF motion platform F1 simulator
Caterham F1 steering wheels
F1 wheels with tyres
High quality drilling & machining equipment
Caterham & Lotus F1 memorabilia
Various pit lane equipment including jacks, pumps and starters
TVs, monitors and other goods and equipment

The goods are to be sold by public auction to the highest bidder.

if anyone goes there, get me a wheel please ;)

Ericsson has already found a new simulator though :P

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By6d3h2IgAIBiVo.jpg)
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Archieboy on November 09, 2014, 10:23
Not long now till the penultimate race in Brazil where we expect a Mercedes one two with Lewis winning. Then of to the double points race in Abu Dabih where Lewis develops a mysterious electrical or braking problem and DNF and the second best driver wins the race and the championship.
Bernie I hope you havet flipped this right up..
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on November 09, 2014, 10:24
that sounds about perfect, Archie  :D
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Archieboy on November 09, 2014, 10:30
If Lewis is going to DNF let it be today then win the last race.
Double points could turn the season into a farce, but will Bernie worry, NO
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: al_pacino on November 09, 2014, 16:44
Bernie will worry all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on November 11, 2014, 20:50
Murray Walker will present the best title deciders from his 1000 years of commentating formula 1 in the BBC tomorrow evening

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29936546
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on November 13, 2014, 11:23
Caterham's crowdfunding attempt to make it to the grid for the Abu Dhabi grand prix is stuck at ~50% for a while now, doesn't look like they will reach those ~2.3 million gpb

https://www.crowdcube.com/caterham/
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: LukasCPH on November 13, 2014, 12:33
~2.3 million gpb
That much money only to have a no-hoper team start 1 (ONE!!!) race?! :o

You could fund a whole ProConti team with that!
The world is crazy. :fp
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on December 02, 2014, 13:28
https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/539761621191909376

 :dizzy
Title: Formula 1
Post by: Gelka on March 02, 2015, 10:42
Decided to start Formula 1 Racing thread, as my family are quite interested in it. Coulthard had been doing well this race until he had a problem and had to stop, sometimes can be annoying.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Leadbelly on July 04, 2015, 11:32
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03360/Flashback_Murray_W_3360849b.jpg)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/11711352/Murray-Walker-Anything-Piquet-could-do-to-unsettle-Mansell-he-would.html
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: cj2002 on September 15, 2015, 09:39
This link caught my eye as I was flicking through my Twitter newsfeed yesterday, only because it was written by a certain Paul Kimmage.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/motor-sport/paul-kimmage-formula-one-still-sells-its-just-that-were-not-buying-it-like-we-used-to-31522457.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/motor-sport/paul-kimmage-formula-one-still-sells-its-just-that-were-not-buying-it-like-we-used-to-31522457.html)

Also because I think Eddie Jordan is awesome - and this article confirms it.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Archieboy on October 25, 2015, 21:43
Nice, Lewis triple world champion.

Nice, Button gets a 6th place that must feel like a win.

Not so nice, Rosberg looked really peeed on the podium

And Sir Elton wants to stop eating all the pies
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Slapshot on October 26, 2015, 02:44
Nico looked like a petulant spoilt brat on that podium... time he grew up a wee bitty and realised its a tough guys game, if he can't hack it, it's his own fault..... anyway, Chapeau Lewis, pretty awesome season
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: cj2002 on October 26, 2015, 09:06
And Sir Elton wants to stop eating all the pies

I met Elton John about 15 years ago, and I can confirm that his pie intake appears to have been consistent between then and now.

Nico Rosberg I've never met, but it's been clear from watching F1 over the last few years that he is missing that edge that would allow him to be a champion. Listening to radio messages from various races, for example, where something is not going his way, and he just sounds like he's whining. Lewis, meanwhile - much like Vettel, Alonso[1] and Raikkonen - just refocusses and gets the job done. Yesterday's race must have been one of the most mentally challenging with the conditions on track continually evolving and the number of other incidents and subsequent changes to strategy.

Added to all that was the emotion of Hamilton's championship win - decided, let's not forget - in what was essentially a 10-lap sprint race after the final safety car period. So it's no wonder he looked exhausted in the cool-down room afterwards. And he had the good grace to embrace Rosberg. And then he threw over the hat ready for the podium presentation. Why Rosberg felt the need to throw it back - with force, directly at Hamilton - only he can answer. Embarrassing for him and the team that the following video was broadcast to the whole track on the big screens!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaYzlWAqwFc

Also - this tweet made me laugh this morning... As Archieboy said, Button must have felt like a winner yesterday. A pity that Alonso had a technical issue that denied the team their best finish of the season, but Button finished 6th in a race where the Hondas were able to hold station because of their own pace. They even did some overtaking!

https://twitter.com/AussieGrit/status/658451403300601856
 1. His public airing of frustration with his engine  notwithstanding
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on October 26, 2015, 10:20
yeah, it was a decent race , but lets hope Rosberg can up his game next year again. The way he lost the last chance to win the championship (well, it was lost anyway, but you know what I mean) yesterday fitted just too well into his level of performances this season...

for the real drama yesterday you had to watch MotoGP by the way :win

(http://giant.gfycat.com/BabyishMeanBarasingha.gif)

Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Servais Knavendish on October 26, 2015, 10:50
Easy to criticise other sports I suppose, but I can't get the love for Hamilton, he is so bland, so PR coached, so completely uninteresting and unremarkable in every interview, and has triumphed in a sport where it could only be him or his team mate this season. Pah!
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Ram on May 22, 2017, 06:06
Got to love a bit of Alonso. Seriously impressive in Indy.

Also good to finally have a real good battle for the f1 world championship. The closeness, and the difficulty of overtaking have made this season really good to watch. Now just to address DRS.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on May 22, 2017, 22:38
yeah, it's really good do see him giving it a go. One week earlier and I would have thought the announcement was an April's fool joke...

and totally unrelated, but as there's no right moment to find for this anyway...: Rest in peace, Nicky :(

(https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/static/img/amp/200000/230000/237000/237800/237828/s6_4372/nicky-hayden-the-worker-champion.jpg)
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Ram on May 23, 2017, 07:29
Desperately disappointing news. RIP.

He will always be the person who snapped Rossi's streak. That was no mean feat.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Archieboy on May 23, 2017, 09:48
RIP Nicky
Terrible news, spent his life racing at high speed and then gets wiped out enjoying his hobby.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Ram on May 29, 2017, 05:56
Alonso and Honda, a match made in heaven. Or an Aldi version of it. Loved how he embraced the race, and how the American fans embraced him. Definitely hope to see him there again.

Well done Sato, and quite surprised by Chilton too. Scott Dixon's crash was horrifying live. Castroneves might have shat himself too when he went under Dixon's flying car. Thankfully Dixon walked away uninjured.

Meanwhile, Monaco.... Well, to be fair, it was always going to be impossible to overtake with the wider cars. At least the start of race radio exchange between Alonso and button was decent fun. vandoorne has been very disappointing so far this season. Thought he'd do better.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on May 29, 2017, 07:23
yeah, Monaco was a bit meh, especially with the Ferrari team order.

But Indy 500 was great indeed. Alonso was strong, but obviously struggling a bit in traffic and with adopting to changing conditions in the second half - but he definitely has a chance to win this in the future. Well, and Sato is a really cool winner of course, happy to see him finally taking a big one, aged 40. He went for a risky move again to take the win - last time against Franchitti he ended up in the wall, this time it worked out :cool
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Ram on May 29, 2017, 14:08
Good lord. Never realised he's already hit 40! Would have him in a heartbeat over Stroll and Palmer, even with his crash happiness and erratic nature.

As for the Motorsport triple crown, I'm guessing Hulkenberg has the best shot. Think Renault will pull out a top car sooner or later, and he's shown with A1 and Le Mans that he's good in different classifications. Just a matter of whether he'll give Indy a right go.

Also, have you any idea whether Ferrari are rotating engine components through the season or be taking a grid penalty later on?
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on May 29, 2017, 14:28
Also, have you any idea whether Ferrari are rotating engine components through the season or be taking a grid penalty later on?

rotating I think, all of them can still be used as far as I know. But I guess they may still face a penalty later on in the season.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Ram on June 01, 2017, 09:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyrfUdSBE0M

Forward to around 7:10. Kanaan with a zinger
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Archieboy on June 26, 2017, 06:39
How did Vettel not get chucked out for that ?
Exciting finish though.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: search on June 26, 2017, 08:46
that was probably the strangest race since... dunno, Canada, when Button won from last?

but yeah, I agree, black flag for Vettel would have been okay as well. He is on the edge now with the penalty points though, so he can't afford another offense of any kind in Austria, otherwise he'll get a one race ban
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Ram on June 26, 2017, 08:50
Crazy race. Great fun after the multiple safety car stoppages. Agree that Vettel should've been black flagged. My initial opinion was that Hamilton brake tested Vettel. Apparently, he didn't.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Archieboy on July 03, 2017, 19:25
Not even a slap on the wrist for Vettel, crazy.
Title: Re: Formula 1
Post by: Archieboy on February 19, 2018, 16:43
Very good bit of marketing from Red Bull today. Launch the new car, the RB14 in stealth black then launch again next week in new race livery.
It looks good in black just hope it goes well.