Post by: skidmark on December 11, 2013, 06:19
The first year, 2011, saw 87 participants and was won in dominant fashion by ingsve, who had declared boldly in his signature that he would win from the start. The second year, 2012, saw increased interest, and out of 129 participants, yours truly had the perfect combination of good choices and luck and won in similarly dominant fashion (there was no signature, but I can assure you I thought I’d win at the start of the year, but I have every year, so 1/3 ain’t bad). The third year, 2013, was more wide open than ever, with conventional/popular picks underperforming and more opportunity for a variety of teams to take top place. There were ties for the lead, back-and-forths etc, but in the end, out of 132 teams, SteelyDan came out slightly on top of GeraintTooFast after the pre-ordained end of the season, the Tour of Taihu Lake (the last 2.1-or-above ranked race of the season). A 20 point difference on 13094 points is only a 0.15% difference. In fact, the top 4 were separated by only 270 points, or 2%.
The fact that the second-place finisher pulled out enough extra points after the official end of the game to overtake the winner has led to some rethinking of a few rules, which we’ll get to below.
Just a note, for those who aren’t aware, Hugo is increasingly busy and stated he wouldn’t have time to run the game this year, and so a few of us volunteered to put it together. I just want to acknowledge the great contributions of poster mc_mountain; the two of us have discussed every detail of putting this together, and he has done a ton of work on the excel files etc; he is running the CQ Youth game which is his brainchild, and so for simplicity’s sake we decided I would ‘run’ this one. I certainly can’t let his legwork go unacknowledged.
Anyway, that’s enough preamble. Let’s go through the more comprehensive set of rules:
Basics
The game is based on the point system developed by the website www.cqranking.com (http://"http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/start.asp"). Based on this system you will have to select a team of between 25 and 33 riders whose combined value doesn’t exceed 7500 points. 7500 points is a little bit under the average for the ProTour teams whose average for 2013 is 8014. 7500 is roughly equivalent to the amount of points AG2R made this season, the 11th ranked of the 19 WT teams.
Your aim then is to select a team of riders who will increase their 2013 score the most during the 2014 season. The winner of the game is the one who has selected the team with the highest combined value when the game ends.
1. How the game works
1.1. Duration
The season starts when the first race is held (which I believe is the Aussie National TT Championships on January 8th) and ends when the last major race (.1 or higher) is held. The winner will be crowned when the next update after the last major race is out. **New rule: any of the top 15 teams have the right to submit for an extension to the season before the end of the last major race. If no teams do so by that time, the season will end at the time stated above.** This rule will hopefully allow us to preserve suspense while ending the season at a time before the outcome becomes an anticlimax.
1.2. Updates
Each week we will publish an update with a top 10 and a list of the high scorers and high jumpers. This will sometimes be by me, and sometimes by others - we have set a tentative schedule based on volunteers.
2. On doping
2.1. On ex-dopers
All riders are available to choose; however, riders who have been suspended for doping and had that affect their 2013 score will not be available simply for their 2013 score. Instead, a rider’s value will be equivalent to that of his last full season; or, if he has more recently had a (not full, due to suspension) season in which he has earned more points, that season represents his value.
Therefore, you can pick any rider you like, but if you want to take Danilo Di Luca, he won’t cost the 40 points he earned in 2013 (after his points were taken away once his suspension was confirmed), he’ll cost the 666 points he earned in 2012.
Of course, you probably won’t pick a rider suspended for life. A more realistic example would be Giovanni Visconti. He was suspended for his links to Ferrari in the offseason of 2012, until January 7th 2013. This nullifies both his 2012 and 2013 scores from being eligible for this game. So instead of costing 430 or 687 points, he costs his 2011 score of 1282 points.
There are no obvious examples of riders who earned more in a recent season affected by doping suspension (like Pozzato last year or Costa the year before) who would therefore have the second part of the doping rule enacted, but I will let you know if any of your submissions fall into this category.
2.2. Riders getting caught during the season
If you include a rider in your team who gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar, nothing happens right away. Your rider keeps his points unless the cqranking.com deletes his results before the end of the game.
Basically, the value of a rider on cqranking.com always stands.
3. Submitting your team
3.1. How do I?
You pick between 25 and 33 riders whose combined value doesn’t exceed 7500 points and send the list to me.
As I will manually have to include the teams into the Microsoft Excel file which keeps track of the scores, please be careful that you send your team to me based on the correct formula. I don’t take any responsibility for any error you might make. If I spot an error I will do my best to contact you but I can’t guarantee anything. Of course, if you have any questions feel free to ask either here in this thread or by sending a personal message.
The layout you need to use is this:
DI LUCA Danilo
VISCONTI Giovanni
Etc.
Nothing else. No points after the name. Also, be careful that there is no “space” after the name, because I will have to delete it manually.
To make things easier for both you and me I will link to a file for you to download in which you can type in your team and it will automatically show you the value of each rider as well as the aggregated value of your team. Then you will just have to copy your team (names only) directly from this file and send it to me.
Hopefully this clears any misunderstandings of a rider’s value as well as reduces the number of errors made in a team sent to me.
3.2. When do I?
The first race of the season will start January 8, so I want to have your team in hand on January 6 at the latest. The deadline is 12AM (CET) January 6th, so a little later in the day for Aussies and sometime on January 5th for North Americans. ***note: you can make changes to your team up to the deadline, even if you submit it now; however, from a data entry perspective, I'd prefer if you submitted a team that was finalized unless something drastic (injury, suspension, etc) happens. So keep that in mind when submitting - don't just submit a 'rough draft' and then make tons of changes, please.***
Please note that even though it feels as though the season is over, it’s actually not. There are still racing to be done and CQ points to be handed out that could affect the value of a rider you have picked. In the last week before this post, there have been the African championships and the recalculating of some Giro stages to account for Di Luca’s suspension. Be mindful of these changes.
cqranking.com usually uploads the final update of the season on December 31, and the values in this update are the ones we’re using. However, the changes are usually very small so there’s no reason why you can’t start selecting your team already today!
3.3 When Do You, skidmark, Submit Your Team?
After some discussion on the 2013 thread, it was decided that I would submit a provisional team of 20 'for sure' riders, with a longer list of potential riders to fill out my team. This is due to my strong preference to work on my team until the last minute; my record in this game as well as my word should hopefully suffice to quell worries that I will get some kind of advantage from processing others' teams. **note: I've already sent my provisional team in; thanks to JSG.**
Create Your Team
Hugo created a very helpful file last year, referred to above, that helps avoid any errors in calculation and helps ensure you are formatting your rider names correctly. I would encourage everyone to use this option, especially if you are not confident in your spreadsheet creating skills. Click on the following link to create your team, then copy and paste the rider names to send to me by PM once you have it correct. Thank you.
Here's the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/er4jvbzlr5pc33y/Create%20Your%20Team.xls
I think that about covers everything. If you have any questions or if I forgot to add or explain anything, please let me know.
Have fun and remember to visit www.cqranking.com (http://www.cqranking.com)! Without their great work it wouldn’t be possible to have this game.
**note: this game is also being run through cyclingnews.com forums, and you can submit a team to me through either here or there. Updates will also be posted to both places.**
Post by: skidmark on December 11, 2013, 06:20
If you have submitted a team recently and don't see it appear within 24 hours, please message me to see what is up.
The following 149 teams are the full lineup of participants for this game:
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*Falze*
18-Valve. (pithy)
Açordas_Team
adamski101
Afrank
al_pacino
ansimi
archieboy
Armchair cyclist
asdfgh101
auto de fé
badbrainaj
Bellsax
Ben1376
bicing
Bicycle_Boy
Blues in the bottle
cj2002
coinneach
comodoro
CQmanager
CraZyCaLL
Crevaison
Cyivel
Cykeltyven
del1962
derrudi
DJ Sprtsch
EvansIsTheBest
Eyeballs Out
fauniera
Ferminal
fraserhughes
freshman
Froome19
Fus87
Geraint Too Fast
GP Blanco
greenedge
Grimm
gustienordic
Handbrake
HelgeBlendet
highoctane
hilltopfinisher
Hugo Koblet
Hugo87
IlPirata92
ingsve
ironsscally
ironted
ItalianGigolo
Jakob747
Jancouver
jeroenk
Josedin
Jpettersen
jsem94
just some guy
karaev
karlboss
Kazistuta
keithjamesmc
kiilike
King Of The Worlds
knallertjeblaf
LaFlorecita
Lamme_Frans
Leadbelly
lenissart
LightBing
Londonpat
Lortnoc
Ludwigzgz
Maaaaaaaarten
MADRAZO
Manafana
Martin
martinaagard
mc_mountain
MCardinalR
Mellow Velo
merengues
Milanello
minessa
mutschi
NairoQ
Netserk
Nicosix
nunomelo
Object
olafjt
Oliveira
olopaine
Panda Claws
Pentacycle
petaldo
PeterB
Popchu
R_O_Shipman
ray200
Reno
riaroadtrip
Roderick
Ruudz0r
Ruvu75
rywann
SamJourno
search
shalgo
Side_Shadow
simple
Skibby the bush kangaroo
skidmark
Slow_Rider
Sneekes
Somar13
SteelyDan
sublimit
tanja
Team_Roubaix
TeoSheva
The Amateur
the asian
The Hitch
the_fool_on_the_hill
the_sceptic
theyoungest
Tigerion
tomazo
Total Package
trotters aotearoa
Trudgin
Tuarts
uspostal
VeloRooms
vladimir
waleweter
Wallenquist
will10
wizard_of_oz
WonderLance
Yellow Knight
yoyokt
Zam_Olyas
zlev11
Zuremelk
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 07:15
you might notice the CQ discussions for 2014 have been on going a few months here so your inbox should get a workout.
let me know if you need any admin type help
if fact will send in a team now I think ;)
Post by: search on December 11, 2013, 07:32
the link to the dropbox is not working btw, skidmark
Edit: this one (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gr1yy1rvo2phv4/Create%20Your%20Team.xls)
edit: flipping hell, I was working with a 32 rider sheet all the time, off to find #33 now... :fp
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 08:00
me too, stupid cq, don't want to think about this anymore :angry
the link to the dropbox is not working btw, skidmark
Edit: this one (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gr1yy1rvo2phv4/Create%20Your%20Team.xls)
edit: flipping hell, I was working with a 32 rider sheet all the time, off to find #33 now... :fp
fixed the link in Skidmarks post fwiw
Post by: Arb on December 11, 2013, 08:02
Now I just have to remember who I liked.
Post by: search on December 11, 2013, 08:22
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 09:22
Di Luca points are gone now so some riders will have more points, cq ranking is updated but the download is not upto date
I went from 7497 to 7500 , well I hope so
Post by: 18-Valve on December 11, 2013, 09:48
As Search and Arbs have pointed out in the chat
Di Luca points are gone now so some riders will have more points, cq ranking is updated but the download is not upto date
I went from 7497 to 7500 , well I hope so
Ryder and Juanjo wil set you back 3 points, yes.
Post by: Flo on December 11, 2013, 09:49
Ryder and Juanjo wil set you back 3 points, yes.
:welcome
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 09:51
Ryder and Juanjo wil set you back 3 points, yes.
hi 18 Valve :welcome
Ryder is 1 point more expensive Juanjo not sure
Post by: Leadbelly on December 11, 2013, 10:48
Post by: 18-Valve on December 11, 2013, 11:39
hi 18 Valve :welcome
Ryder is 1 point more expensive Juanjo not sure
Serves me right ...and thanks for the welcome. LaFlo, as well.
You're right, both riders are only one point more expensive. I'm not sold on Cobo yet, either. Not because I think that he won't make a decent profit, but because I'm not sure yet on how my team will turn out. Mid-price, top heavy or somewhere in between. If I go the top heavy route, which seems to have worked for the top teams last year, with Sagan, Cav and others (Gilbert not so much....) I probably won't pick him.
Post by: Arb on December 11, 2013, 11:47
My random Kazakh may have to go.
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 12:01
Serves me right ...and thanks for the welcome. LaFlo, as well.
You're right, both riders are only one point more expensive. I'm not sold on Cobo yet, either. Not because I think that he won't make a decent profit, but because I'm not sure yet on how my team will turn out. Mid-price, top heavy or somewhere in between. If I go the top heavy route, which seems to have worked for the top teams last year, with Sagan, Cav and others (Gilbert not so much....) I probably won't pick him.
I have gone a different route mostly fanboy picks with a few fill ins
ie Andy and TB
have ended up with a lot of *au and *co riders though :D
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 12:27
Post by: 18-Valve on December 11, 2013, 12:32
I have gone a different route mostly fanboy picks with a few fill ins
ie Andy and TB
have ended up with a lot of *au and *co riders though :D
Yeah, my current favorite team is almost entirely made up of Aussies, Colombians, Italians and Brits. Plus a few all too obvious picks. Not sold on some of the cheaper riders, though. I could ditch Anacona, for instance. One slightly controversial rider I am still considering is Sir Wiggins. I'm waiting for his schedule to be announced, pretty much.
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 12:38
Post by: skidmark on December 11, 2013, 18:01
Post by: Tanja on December 11, 2013, 21:02
I have my team almost complete, but should I wait until the deadline before sending it if I want to make changes on my team?
Post by: mc_mountain on December 11, 2013, 21:10
Hi, thanks for this!
I have my team almost complete, but should I wait until the deadline before sending it if I want to make changes on my team?
you can submit now, and make changes later - but if you know already you might make changes its probably worth waiting til you are sure of your team.
Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 21:11
Hi, thanks for this!
I have my team almost complete, but should I wait until the deadline before sending it if I want to make changes on my team?
yep I sent mine into today as I keep making changes and then re thinking be done with it I thought then DiLuca lost his points :angry
Post by: Tanja on December 11, 2013, 21:27
I'm thinking more if someone gets injured etc. , don't want to make unnecessary work for the people doing this, I'll send it after New Year then, should've made my mind up too by then
Post by: skidmark on December 11, 2013, 21:30
Hi, thanks for this!
I have my team almost complete, but should I wait until the deadline before sending it if I want to make changes on my team?
Pretty much what MC said. While people are certainly allowed to make changes up until the deadline, from a data entry perspective I'd like to encourage people to only submit a team when they're sure they're confident in it going forward, and reserve changes for events like new information on injury, suspension, dramatic changes in team role/schedule, etc. If you simply have a rough draft, I'd encourage you to keep it to yourself until it is more certain.
Post by: Tanja on December 11, 2013, 21:37
Pretty much what MC said. While people are certainly allowed to make changes up until the deadline, from a data entry perspective I'd like to encourage people to only submit a team when they're sure they're confident in it going forward, and reserve changes for events like new information on injury, suspension, dramatic changes in team role/schedule, etc. If you simply have a rough draft, I'd encourage you to keep it to yourself until it is more certain.
Thanks, thought so too.
Will wait 'til I send mine, thanks so much for doing this! :)
Post by: The Hitch on December 12, 2013, 02:54
Thanks, thought so too.
Will wait 'til I send mine, thanks so much for doing this! :)
and spread the word.
This is easily the most knowledge based cycling game out there, (except for some of the subversions eg youth). Pretenders need not apply
Post by: Arb on December 12, 2013, 07:57
Though I could easily swap DUARTE for WURF or SICARD...
Something tells me I will be changing again.
Especially considering Ballan is still there... Well if he's out it's another Colombian.
Post by: just some guy on December 12, 2013, 08:24
due to the killer change one of my *it riders got swapped for another *co and if santa causes mayhem the *co will go for *au rider :fp
watching the will walker vid yesterday I almost wanted to put him in, but as search said I also need to stop cq thinking and tinkering. Unless coni and cq force my hand.
nice to see 1st 4 teams are from VR I think we have 4 or 5 twitter people getting teams in, wonder if we get to 200 teams , I will be proud of coming 96th
Post by: skidmark on December 12, 2013, 22:05
and spread the word.
This is easily the most knowledge based cycling game out there, (except for some of the subversions eg youth). Pretenders need not apply
No no, pretenders please apply! The field is getting smarter every year, and those of us with 3 years experience need to feel good by bettering someone, at least!
On a separate note, first 5 teams now from velorooms. And I love that whenever I've come by here in the last 2 days, all I see on the chat scrollbar is talk of CQ picks. Cyclingnews may get more traffic, but people feel like fans here.
Post by: 18-Valve on December 13, 2013, 09:59
No no, pretenders please apply! The field is getting smarter every year, and those of us with 3 years experience need to feel good by bettering someone, at least!
On a separate note, first 5 teams now from velorooms. And I love that whenever I've come by here in the last 2 days, all I see on the chat scrollbar is talk of CQ picks. Cyclingnews may get more traffic, but people feel like fans here.
Is there any evidence that 2013 had the smartest field? I'm genuinely curious, as it didn't look like it to me. There were probably too many picks that turned out to be weak or mediocre, also in the de-facto top teams. When you compare that to what was possible with unpopular picks such as Chris "tailwind" Froome and Richie Porte, I don't know.
I'd certainly welcome having a much bigger field, though, especially if (more) people from within pro cycling join. What do you all think are the best (least intrusive) ways to get more people to join?
Post by: mc_mountain on December 13, 2013, 10:49
Is there any evidence that 2013 had the smartest field? I'm genuinely curious, as it didn't look like it to me. There were probably too many picks that turned out to be weak or mediocre, also in the de-facto top teams. When you compare that to what was possible with unpopular picks such as Chris "tailwind" Froome and Richie Porte, I don't know.
I'd certainly welcome having a much bigger field, though, especially if (more) people from within pro cycling join. What do you all think are the best (least intrusive) ways to get more people to join?
i think 2013 was probably more of a reliance on getting a few of the perfect picks (expensive but big return) Sagan, Quintana, the two you mention and perhaps to a lesser extend Cav and Cancellara than having a really well 'balanced' team that brought major points throughout. In 2012 there were a few amazingly cheap but productive picks Quintana and Moser for example and lots of people tried to find those (most got Coquard of course) and a lot of us picked the same duds.
I sent a 'press release' for the game to CN and few other anglo journalists and followed it up with a tweet or two. Daniel Benson retweeted but unfortunately not the one from the CN feed twitter that has 100,000+. He did say he would try and get a team together. Inner Ring has also said he might play. The point of the press release wasnt really to get a story written but just as way to approach journos with it. If you fancy doing the same for any dutch journos, at some point I'll attach it here (or you could just as easily cut and paste the preamble that skidmark wrote in the first post into google translate and just check the translation over). I know jsg tweeted a link to the thread to a few people and got some interest.
I'm also looking for a bigger field for the youth game, which I hope you will join and there is also Armchair's games to consider too.
Post by: mc_mountain on December 13, 2013, 11:01
CQ Ranking Game Preparations Underway for 2014.
When 'Hugo Koblet' (a poster on a cycling website's forum) conceived the much loved CQ Ranking Manager game in the latter months of 2010, a game he thought might have 25 or so players. This expectation was far exceeded in the first year, and now at the conclusion of its third year, in 2013 over 130 teams were entered, with SteelyDan emerging on top by a mere 20 points (or a single stage victory in a 2.1 race) from Geraint Too Fast with a total of 13094.
Utilising the CQ Ranking website's points system the game challenges the player to select a team totalling no more than 7500 CQ points from the most recent season (a rough average from the World Tour teams in 2010), and generate the biggest increase in points, from young riders making a break through as they develop into the pro ranks, or more established members of the peloton returning from injury/poor form or perhaps even from moving into more of a leadership role in new team.
The inaugural champion, fellow poster ingsve managed to make a profit of 6,421 points, after bravely asserting he would be victorious in the early days of the season. 'The game is a great way for a cycling fan to enhance the experience of following the sport of cycling. It makes you care about the results in many more races throughout the year and makes you more invested in how riders develop.'
Of his prediction he told us 'It's fun to see how the game has developed over the years. The first year many people didn't understand the fundamentals of the game and created fundamentally flawed teams to the point where I realized I would have a fair shot at winning the game, which I did. The following years people had caught on to what the crucial mechanics are in building a good team and the competition has become very fierce which only adds to the excitement of the game.'
Having successfully established the game, that has also spawned several sub games, Hugo is taking a back seat in 2014 with his time limited due to work commitments. Several other forum members look set to take up the challenge of maintaining the game. These include 2012 champion skidmark and podium finisher in the 2011 edition mc_mountain, who also established a young riders version of the game. He told us 'It looks like the YouthCQ game in 2013 has been somewhat of an apprenticeship for helping to take up the reigns of the main game. I'm glad I've had the chance to do something like it on a smaller scale, before following in Hugo's footsteps'.
An innovation for the 2014 season will see the weekly updates provided by a variety of posters rather than just one game organiser, one of whom 'search' gave us his insight into the game 'When I won the Tour de France version of the game in 2012 it was only the second time I had participated in any version of the CQ Manager games, and back then I did not think too long and hard about it to be honest – I was surprised, but very happy when I saw that I won.
He went on to say 'but that's probably also the most interesting part of the game; you can use a variety of thought processes to come to a successful team. A new participant choosing the riders mostly by gut feeling to a large degree has the same chance of winning as someone who is using a very analytical perspective. In the end the winner's team will most likely have to find a mix of both approaches, but also have luck on their side. However it will unfold, I am sure the 2014 edition of the game will again be very captivating and definitely one I am looking forward to participating in.
Of all the updates perhaps the most anticipated will be provided by the Game's creator Hugo himself who will declare the winner at the end of the season.
Look out for details on how to sign up and play in the Games and Fantasy Forum in the coming weeks.
Notes
In its three years on the Cycling News forum the main game has generated 9,351 posts and 570,112 page views. Combining subgames, evaluation and speculation threads that rises to 10,777 and 671,758 over half the posts on the sub forum, formed to accommodate the popularity of the game.
Notable Riders – suitable for photo to accompany article.
Peter Sagan has increased his CQ score in each of the 3 seasons of the game. His average increase in CQ points is 581.67. His increase in 2013 from 1963 to 2673 (710 points) was vital for game winner SteelyDan's total of 13094
Post by: Tuart on December 13, 2013, 11:19
Post by: mc_mountain on December 13, 2013, 11:25
Is it an actual press release? I understand drumming up support but never heard of a game sending out PRs.
Well what makes something a press release other than calling it a press release and sending it to the press. basically it came out of me wanting to get CN to acknowledge the game, that potentially drives quite a bit of traffic to their site. at the time I wrote it I thought I might be running the game, so would have used the content as part of the OP.
Post by: Tuart on December 13, 2013, 11:28
Post by: just some guy on December 13, 2013, 11:34
so a little more chat and it might snowball
I would challenge Conde mc , he says he knows cycling lets see ;) :lol
Post by: mc_mountain on December 13, 2013, 11:54
There 5 or 6 non forum people from my tweet have done teams now.
so a little more chat and it might snowball
I would challenge Conde mc , he says he knows cycling lets see ;) :lol
you'll see I just have (no email address on his blog so just the tweet). maybe we should try and use a hashtag #CQRankingManagerGame when tweeting about it.
Post by: Tuart on December 13, 2013, 11:55
Post by: just some guy on December 13, 2013, 11:57
you'll see I just have (no email address on his blog so just the tweet). maybe we should try and use a hashtag #CQRankingManagerGame when tweeting about it.
maybe something smaller CQmanager14 ???
Post by: LukasCPH on December 13, 2013, 12:00
maybe something smaller CQmanager14 ???I like that better than the other hashtag - that one's far too easy to get it wrong when typing, even more so on a mobile device.
Post by: mc_mountain on December 13, 2013, 12:04
Post by: Trudgin on December 13, 2013, 12:04
Help please.... :o
Post by: just some guy on December 13, 2013, 12:08
Ok - looking at this i cant see anything to say if i can change my team later? I ask because you select 25 to 33, why a range? do i select 33 riders and then pick 25 from that for certain races? Or are the riders I pick and sumbit the riders i am stuck with for the whole year?
Help please.... :o
to give a minimum and maximum riders more riders equals less average spend, but more riders who might score.
once the team is in and the season starts no changes
Post by: LukasCPH on December 13, 2013, 12:13
Ok - looking at this i cant see anything to say if i can change my team later? I ask because you select 25 to 33, why a range? do i select 33 riders and then pick 25 from that for certain races? Or are the riders I pick and sumbit the riders i am stuck with for the whole year?You pick once, before the first race of the 2014 season, and are 'stuck' with that selection for the whole year.
Help please.... :o
Within the 7500 point budget, you have to choose at least 25 riders, and you may choose no more than 33.
Meaning that if you want to select riders with more points on average (reasoning that they're more certain to score), you still have to select 25 riders - you can't just pick Froome, Purito and Valverde and be done. And if you want to select riders with less points on average (reasoning that they're bargains and could prove important if they have a standout year), you have to stop with 33 riders.
Post by: Trudgin on December 13, 2013, 12:17
Post by: 18-Valve on December 13, 2013, 13:22
I guess it could be convenient to those who don't have much time to send in a team, but want to join, anyway?
Post by: skidmark on December 13, 2013, 21:50
Is there any evidence that 2013 had the smartest field? I'm genuinely curious, as it didn't look like it to me. There were probably too many picks that turned out to be weak or mediocre, also in the de-facto top teams. When you compare that to what was possible with unpopular picks such as Chris "tailwind" Froome and Richie Porte, I don't know.
I'd certainly welcome having a much bigger field, though, especially if (more) people from within pro cycling join. What do you all think are the best (least intrusive) ways to get more people to join?
Well, it's hard to use any kind of metric to determine whether the field is 'smarter', I meant more generally that after playing the game for a year, you sort of 'get it' a bit better and have a better idea of what works, what doesn't. And after 3 years, a lot of people have played at least once and 'get it' a bit better. The 'conventional wisdom' team underperformed this year, which was exciting to watch (although too bad as someone who tends to take picks that many people think will do well), but I don't think that was because people were less game intelligent, it's just that the less 'risky' type of game intelligence didn't pay off as well as in the first two years.
With regards to promotion, I'm not a tweeter, but it definitely sounds like there is a cycling twitter community of sorts. So yeah, the hashtag and all that are good ideas. For myself, at cyclingnews at least, I've put a 'join the cq manager game by January 6th' link in my signature, so people will see it on whatever board. That's not super intrusive. If other people want to do that to promote the game, all the better. I'm sure if I had never wandered into the games section and all of a sudden saw 5 regular posters in the PRR section with links to the game in their signatures, I'd check it out. Whatever works for word of mouth, that's great.
Post by: skidmark on December 13, 2013, 21:59
There 5 or 6 non forum people from my tweet have done teams now.
so a little more chat and it might snowball
I would challenge Conde mc , he says he knows cycling lets see ;) :lol
That's really cool. So everyone's aware, one thing that has come up is that there is the possibility of getting an email address for people to send their teams. My preference is to keep it on the forums, so that participants in the game are encouraged to discuss the game here, where updates are posted etc. But those of you out in the broader twitterverse promoting this game, please let me know if you think there's a large group of people that want to play but for some reason aren't willing to sign up for the forum. I may reconsider if that's the case.
Of course, another option is if you're tweeting and get someone interested in playing, you can submit their team for them to me by pm. Then the hope would maybe be that as the game wore on they'd be interested in joining the forum and contributing to discussion. I'm easy, more the merrier and all that, it's just that it seems weird to have someone playing that doesn't have the chance to share their thoughts on the thread where the game is contained.
Post by: skidmark on December 13, 2013, 22:02
Ok - looking at this i cant see anything to say if i can change my team later? I ask because you select 25 to 33, why a range? do i select 33 riders and then pick 25 from that for certain races? Or are the riders I pick and sumbit the riders i am stuck with for the whole year?
Help please.... :o
Hey Trudgin,
Others seem to have answered your questions just fine, but you raised a good point that I overlooked; I added a section in bold in the main post on changing teams. Thanks for calling attention to it.
Post by: Trudgin on December 13, 2013, 22:05
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Post by: Trudgin on December 13, 2013, 22:50
Post by: mc_mountain on December 13, 2013, 23:58
ok how do i actually post my entry...
send it to skidmark by PM - you can do this directly from a post of his, using the the icon in the left hand panel or you should be able to access PM/inbox in the top right hand corner where the alerts for the quotes/likes etc
just cut your team from the excel file if you've been using it and paste (just the riders names)
Post by: skidmark on December 14, 2013, 22:53
Post by: Trudgin on December 17, 2013, 15:00
Im really struggling to download this spreadsheet that the rankings are calculated on... ive used CQ ranking and Sub-ranking and still coming out different to this spreadsheet.
Is it possible for someone to email me the spreadsheet (Hugo's) It would hopefully help me get the scores right
Post by: mc_mountain on December 17, 2013, 15:19
Hi,
Im really struggling to download this spreadsheet that the rankings are calculated on... ive used CQ ranking and Sub-ranking and still coming out different to this spreadsheet.
Is it possible for someone to email me the spreadsheet (Hugo's) It would hopefully help me get the scores right
I'm not sure I have understood what you're after but the spreadsheet for the 2014 game wont be ready until all the teams are in - if you want the spreadsheet for the 2013 scores you can do get them from the downloads at CQ (select year ranking on the spreadsheet - although it wont make a difference at the moment)
(http://i.imgur.com/EpBVxc3.png) (http://i.imgur.com/QCrKhNn.png)
but there is the create your team file here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ulzxxgnxeinwjq/Create%20Your%20Team.xls) which includes the alterations for doping.
edit i've PM'd you with the list of riders whose scores will be different from the CQ website.
Post by: just some guy on December 18, 2013, 09:52
Quote
Blazin' Saddles retweeted you
14h: @saddleblaze year long Fantasy Cycling game based on CQ points, you game? http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=4893.0 … #CQManager14
that´s 10 000 followers hopefull a few new teams to the fun
Post by: skidmark on December 18, 2013, 15:56
that´s 10 000 followers hopefull a few new teams to the fun
Wowsers. Maybe I didn't know what I signed up for here!
Gotta say, so far I'm super stoked. 4 of the 8 teams submitted are from folks who've never played before (or at least have different handles). And 7 of the 8 have come through velorooms! Less than 3 weeks to go, so keep poring over those shortlists!
edit: correction, just logged onto cn and there's now 9 teams, 5 of which are new.
Post by: cj2002 on December 18, 2013, 18:52
Watch this space --------------->
Post by: cj2002 on December 21, 2013, 18:57
PS - I realise I'd said I'd do it yesterday, but had a Wiggins-sized hangover to contend with so thought it better to wait 24 hours for the pain to subside. Fighting fit again now!
Post by: mc_mountain on December 22, 2013, 14:00
Thank you all for watching my space so attentively. I now have a 33-man team, coming in at 7435 points. Now we enter the phase where I stare at the list for 3 or 4 days in a mixture of doubt and confusion.
PS - I realise I'd said I'd do it yesterday, but had a Wiggins-sized hangover to contend with so thought it better to wait 24 hours for the pain to subside. Fighting fit again now!
Plenty of time to consider your #CQYouth team!
Post by: cj2002 on December 22, 2013, 14:16
Plenty of time to consider your #CQYouth team!
I reckon a large proportion of my big boy CQ team could qualify for the youth game... I'll give it some thought.
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Post by: skidmark on December 29, 2013, 16:52
Post by: Arb on December 31, 2013, 02:22
Post by: skidmark on December 31, 2013, 02:29
Post by: 18-Valve on December 31, 2013, 08:39
Had a couple people register an account thus far, but I see they haven't submitted their teams (yet?). Maybe one of them will eventually... In the mean time I'll advertise the game on a dutch forum if my account is approved in time. :-x
I see they already have a CQ game of their own, where you can bid on riders, and a (any) rider can only be picked by one team. Seems like a fun game also, that could be organized months before the main game(s), as a bidding war determines the prices of the riders, as opposed to the rider values on December 31st or January 1, or whatever.
Post by: Flo on December 31, 2013, 09:32
Yeah, I think it will be the biggest one to date, by some margin.
Had a couple people register an account thus far, but I see they haven't submitted their teams (yet?). Maybe one of them will eventually... In the mean time I'll advertise the game on a dutch forum if my account is approved in time. :-x
I see they already have a CQ game of their own, where you can bid on riders, and a (any) rider can only be picked by one team. Seems like a fun game also, that could be organized months before the main game(s), as a bidding war determines the prices of the riders, as opposed to the rider values on December 31st or January 1, or whatever.
Wielerflits?
Post by: 18-Valve on December 31, 2013, 09:54
Wielerflits?
yeah, I saw your posts on that site sometime this year. You were everywhere back then. :o
How long did it take for them to approve your account? Damn holiday season. :(
Post by: Flo on December 31, 2013, 10:00
yeah, I saw your posts on that site sometime this year. You were everywhere back then. :o
How long did it take for them to approve your account? Damn holiday season. :(
It took a few days
WF is a nationalistic sh*thole :D I've given up on arguing with the posters over there. It's too frustrating.
Post by: 18-Valve on December 31, 2013, 10:44
It took a few days
WF is a nationalistic sh*thole :D I've given up on arguing with the posters over there. It's too frustrating.
Yeah, not big on the thinly-veiled racism that I sometimes encounter there, either, but the blind nationalism is the main reason why I lurk there occasionally. Some topics are pure comedic gold.
Post by: Flo on December 31, 2013, 10:48
Post by: mc_mountain on December 31, 2013, 18:01
Yeah, I think it will be the biggest one to date, by some margin.
Had a couple people register an account thus far, but I see they haven't submitted their teams (yet?). Maybe one of them will eventually... In the mean time I'll advertise the game on a dutch forum if my account is approved in time. :-x
I see they already have a CQ game of their own, where you can bid on riders, and a (any) rider can only be picked by one team. Seems like a fun game also, that could be organized months before the main game(s), as a bidding war determines the prices of the riders, as opposed to the rider values on December 31st or January 1, or whatever.
thanks for doing this, (its a shame they're so touchy about it!) if it helps feel free to lay the blame on me as a non-dutch speaker who asked for a favour.
as for an auction game if there is interest (and perhaps more importantly someone who wants to run it) I could look at building a spreadsheet for it (working out rules and running auctions would be too much for me to take on). would probably need to be a limit on number of teams I guess, perhaps some more thought on another day!
Post by: LukasCPH on January 01, 2014, 08:04
as for an auction game if there is interest (and perhaps more importantly someone who wants to run it) I could look at building a spreadsheet for it (working out rules and running auctions would be too much for me to take on). would probably need to be a limit on number of teams I guess, perhaps some more thought on another day!I was part of an auction game for the last two seasons. It's far more work (for everyone involved) than this simple, "classic" game, and it isn't really worth it in terms of extra enjoyment.
Of course, people shouldn't let that stop themselves if they're keen. It's just my personal experience.
Post by: 18-Valve on January 01, 2014, 08:23
thanks for doing this, (its a shame they're so touchy about it!) if it helps feel free to lay the blame on me as a non-dutch speaker who asked for a favour.
Yeah, I just posted a reply that it wasn't about promoting the websites CN and/or VR, but it's no use, as the the resident e- "alpha male" (one of the most vocal players of their CQ game, anyhow) was the first one to respond and shout down the "intruder," LOL. I didn't think it would be too intrusive to promote the game on their dedicated cycling games sub forum, but then again maybe it was. Ah well.
Post by: Flo on January 01, 2014, 09:00
^ Yeah, I just thought I'd mention it. It's probably too much of a hassle.
Yeah, I just posted a reply that it wasn't about promoting the websites CN and/or VR, but it's no use, as the the resident e- "alpha male" (one of the most vocal players of their CQ game, anyhow) was the first one to respond and shout down the "intruder," LOL. I didn't think it would be too intrusive to promote the game on their dedicated cycling games sub forum, but then again maybe it was. Ah well.
Gheezus so touchy. NOT NORMAL.
:S
Post by: Arb on January 01, 2014, 09:34
Post by: mc_mountain on January 01, 2014, 09:45
skidmark/mc, would it be easier for me to send you a spreadsheet rather than PM list?
its easier to cut and paste from a PM (just the riders, no points).
Post by: skidmark on January 02, 2014, 07:36
its easier to cut and paste from a PM (just the riders, no points).
Yes, it is indeed. And I want to send out a reminder to stick to the format outlined in the opening post - I have been getting some entries with typos, lower case last names, points, and the most insidious of errors, spaces before or after the name. Any of these will cause it not to read in the spreadsheet.
Post by: skidmark on January 02, 2014, 21:08
Post by: Arb on January 03, 2014, 01:56
Appears I missed a random Beijing 5 points from none other than Nick Nuyens, he may just have to flip off.
Post by: Arb on January 03, 2014, 02:06
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 03, 2014, 02:45
All but 2 points of budget used. One rider drafted in at last minute who hadn't been shortlisted (but who I had considered, but rejected, for the emerging riders game).
6 riders between 500 and 800 pts
4 between 300 and 500 pts
8 between 100 and 300
7 between 50 and 100
7 between 1 and 50
1 freebie.
10 aged 30+
10 aged 25-29
5 aged 23-24
8 aged 20-22
11 from BeNeLux
7 from other traditional powerhouse nations
2 eastern European
2 Scandanavian
9 non-European
9 Anglophone
5 non-World Tour
and 11 members of the Velorooms team
Post by: skidmark on January 03, 2014, 03:43
Post by: Flo on January 03, 2014, 19:43
1000+: 1
500-999: 2
400-499: 0
300-399: 5
200-299: 4
100-199: 11
1-99: 8
0: 2
Post by: AG on January 04, 2014, 05:11
as for an auction game if there is interest (and perhaps more importantly someone who wants to run it) I could look at building a spreadsheet for it (working out rules and running auctions would be too much for me to take on). would probably need to be a limit on number of teams I guess, perhaps some more thought on another day!
If you wanted to do a spreadsheet for it that was easier to update/maintain, the prediction game was really fun ... but it was a lot of effort to do the updates/scores as I was doing it manually ... (and truth be told have still not finalised it :lol though Hitch won in a landslide)
Post by: cj2002 on January 04, 2014, 12:47
To little avail.
The wine was good, though :D
Post by: LukasCPH on January 04, 2014, 23:43
1000+: 0
500-999: 3
400-499: 1
300-399: 4
200-299: 6
100-199: 9
1-99: 7
0: 3
Post by: skidmark on January 05, 2014, 00:12
One issue - I am on vacation and our plans tomorrow involve going to a remote island off the coast of British Columbia overnight. That means that I might not have internet access. Practically, this means I'll only be able to release the full list of teams on the 6th sometime. But it also means that it's possible if I get enough last minute entries that my inbox might be full (I'm keeping it clear but it can only hold 50). I'll suss it out tomorrow, but I might ask for someone to volunteer as a proxy in the remote case that there are too many entries for my inbox. Between cyclingnews and here, I don't see 100 new people entering in a day, but you never know.
Post by: mc_mountain on January 05, 2014, 00:24
Just over 24 hours to go, and including unprocessed teams, we have 115 participants. Assuming many people have been saving for the last day, we should blow past the 132 high of last year.
One issue - I am on vacation and our plans tomorrow involve going to a remote island off the coast of British Columbia overnight. That means that I might not have internet access. Practically, this means I'll only be able to release the full list of teams on the 6th sometime. But it also means that it's possible if I get enough last minute entries that my inbox might be full (I'm keeping it clear but it can only hold 50). I'll suss it out tomorrow, but I might ask for someone to volunteer as a proxy in the remote case that there are too many entries for my inbox. Between cyclingnews and here, I don't see 100 new people entering in a day, but you never know.
| think Dim has given you unlimited PMs here so if people that are on both send to you here, that should take some of the pressure away.
Post by: Arb on January 05, 2014, 06:06
Post by: cj2002 on January 05, 2014, 13:40
1000+: 0
500-999: 3
300-499: 8
150-299: 5
100-149: 5
50-99: 3
1-49: 4
0: 5
23 World Tour, 10 non-WT (of whom a risky 3 are only Continental).
8 native English speakers, although only 2 from my home country. 3 from my adopted home country and 12 from countries I have never even visited.
And I am predicting either total domination or utter failure. Place your bets ;)
Post by: al_pacino on January 05, 2014, 15:29
1000+: 0
500-999: 4
300-499: 6
150-299: 6
100-149: 4
50-99: 5
1-49: 6
0: 2
17 nationalities(I think).
Not overly confident.
Post by: Arb on January 05, 2014, 15:52
Post by: just some guy on January 05, 2014, 15:57
maybe only teams with Evans :D
Post by: Flo on January 05, 2014, 16:02
Post by: 18-Valve on January 05, 2014, 16:06
12 or 13 the same arbs
maybe only teams with Evans :D
15+ I'm guessing. Plenty of Aussies and other Evans fans around. And really, is it that unlikely that he'll do much better this year? Okay, he probably can't defend his Giro points, unless BMC has really stepped it up...
Post by: Arb on January 05, 2014, 16:10
Post by: LukasCPH on January 05, 2014, 16:17
12 or 13 the same arbsMe too. :D
Post by: 18-Valve on January 05, 2014, 16:19
It's pretty much Evans or Phil, and more people will pick Phil so I go for the low popularity score :P Plus it's hard to not chase losses in this game...
Yeah. Kind of surprised that you picked Voeckler in favor of Gerrans, also. Though Voeckler could be a key pick with many believing he's past it, physically or otherwise. I don't really know what to think about Europcar being a PRT team all of a sudden. Looking forward to it, though...
Post by: Arb on January 05, 2014, 16:19
Post by: Arb on January 05, 2014, 16:23
Yeah. Kind of surprised that you picked Voeckler in favor of Gerrans, also. Though Voeckler could be a key pick with many believing he's past it, physically or otherwise. I don't really know what to think about Europcar being a PRT team all of a sudden. Looking forward to it, though...
That is surprising isn't it. I tried to fit Gerrans in but never really thought about ditching Voeckler for it! It's mainly a risk play on Europcar ramping up the marginal gains with a lot of big talk coming out with the WT spot and everything. Voeckler's ITT at the end of the season was ridiculous so that was enough of a glimmer for me. I like Malacarne and JEROME too but couldn't really work them in, plus had a random zero pointer neopro lined up but he didn't actually sign with them.
Post by: Trudgin on January 05, 2014, 16:33
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Post by: froome19 on January 05, 2014, 17:06
Post by: search on January 05, 2014, 17:36
No MM, nor RH..
yeh, Maaskant is the kind of rider you'd expect arbs to have in his team - Reto Hollenstein, not so sure :P
Post by: Flo on January 05, 2014, 18:43
Looking at the team here and folks comments on of having between 12 & 15 of the same riders.. I'm like, scratching my head.. I have 1 maybe 2 the same - I'm last or I'm winning
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Most likely last Trudg ;)
Post by: Trudgin on January 05, 2014, 19:44
Most likely last Trudg ;)
Oi you...
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Post by: KeithJamesMc on January 05, 2014, 20:42
Post by: Slow Rider on January 05, 2014, 20:47
500-999: 2
300-499: 10
150-299: 5
100-149: 5
50-99: 6
1-49: 5
0: 1
Total of 27 western Europeans (7 of which are Italians, 5 Dutch and 5 Belgian). Only three non-WT riders.
I am predicting a lower mid-table finish. Unlikely to be in danger of direct relegation, but definitely not going to be in contention for qualification for Europe.
Post by: Flo on January 05, 2014, 20:47
Post by: KeithJamesMc on January 05, 2014, 20:51
17 matches with Big Keith
Betcha, Wiggo wasn't one of them :Smug:
Post by: Dim on January 05, 2014, 20:52
Oi you...
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Dont worry, i will be most definately holding up the table.
Post by: just some guy on January 05, 2014, 20:54
Post by: Dim on January 05, 2014, 21:01
CAVENDISH Mark - will do better than last year. word.
URAN URAN Rigoberto - hopefully let off the leash a bit at opqs, should score more points.
STYBAR Zdenek - settled in, classics monster
WIGGINS Bradley - did naff all last year, will do naff all this year, but maybe do less naff all this year than last year
GERRANS Simon - thought he was quiet last year, will do more this year.
HAYMAN Mathew - another one let off the leash, will have a good spring
PETACCHI Alessandro - will get lots of top tens purely from leading out cav
SWIFT Ben - might actually get a chance this year, and sky back at ATOC and the like, lots of 2nd places behind sagan to pick up
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose - gimme
STANNARD Ian - one year he will do better than the previous year
DENNIS Rohan - ditto
KOLOBNEV Alexandr - i have faith :D
BASSO Ivan - I have a lot of faith :D
VAN POPPEL Danny - meh
RENSHAW Mark - See Petacchi
BAUER Jack - Dunno why i picked him
AS for the rest, mostly Euskadi riders. Had a warped logic that with no more Euskaltel, the feeder team might get some race invites to the spanish races, if there are actually any spanish races left?
CARLSEN Kirk
KARATZIOS Georgios
FLAKSIS Andzs
SCHNAIDT Fabian
MERINO CORTAZAR Igor
ORBE URRUTIA Haritz
LARRINAGA MUGURUZA Jon
ITURRIA SEGUROLA Mikel
MERINO CORTAZAR Igor
BERNAUDEAU Giovanni
Post by: Trudgin on January 05, 2014, 21:02
Post by: Trudgin on January 05, 2014, 21:04
Post by: skidmark on January 05, 2014, 22:37
Post by: search on January 05, 2014, 23:00
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
GALLOPIN Tony
PHINNEY Taylor
BOS Theo
CUNEGO Damiano
KISERLOVSKI Robert
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
HESJEDAL Ryder
VANDENBERGH Stijn
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey
GOSS Matthew
BATTAGLIN Enrico
LÖFKVIST Thomas
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BELLETTI Manuel
DE GENDT Thomas
BOONEN Tom
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
THURAU Björn
SCHLECK Andy
VANENDERT Jelle
BRENES OBANDO Gregory Juel
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose
COLLI Daniele
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
DI GREGORIO Rémy
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto
BISOLTI Alessandro
GERDEMANN Linus
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
Post by: froome19 on January 05, 2014, 23:02
Hesjedal Ryder
Boonen Tom
Schleck Andy
Moser Moreno
Dombrowski Joseph Lloyd
Aru Fabio
Kessiakoff Fredrik
Vanendert Jelle
Goss Matthew
COPPEL Jérôme
Phinney Taylor
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
Zordan Andrea
Durbridge Luke
Gerdemann Linus
Chaves Estebean
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew
Morton Lachlan
Howson Damien
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
Cattaneo Mattia
DI GREGORIO Rémy
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
Hoogerland Johnny
Yates Simon
De Gendt Thomas
Swift Ben
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
POELS Wout
Ewan Caleb
Stybar Zdenek
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 05, 2014, 23:14
URAN URAN Rigoberto 742
KELDERMAN Wilco 696
PINOT Thibaut 682
STYBAR Zdenek 645
WIGGINS Bradley 623
DENNIS Rohan 394
JUNGELS Bob 372
MOSER Moreno 353
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 341
LÖFKVIST Thomas 193
CRADDOCK Lawson 175
MORTON Lachlan 159
DE GENDT Thomas 154
TAARAMÄE Rein 143
BOONEN Tom 139
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 125
EWAN Caleb 110
SCHLECK Andy 99
VANENDERT Jelle 96
VANSUMMEREN Johan 79
DEKKER Thomas 73
HEPBURN Michael 71
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 61
YATES Adam 55
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 47
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
WACKERMANN Luca 28
STAMSNIJDER Tom 25
KERN Christophe 14
WATSON Calvin 6
HENAO MARIN Sebastian 1
GERDEMANN Linus 0
Post by: Trudgin on January 05, 2014, 23:30
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Post by: AG on January 05, 2014, 23:46
GILBERT Philippe 949
URAN URAN Rigoberto 742
HUSHOVD Thor 690
STYBAR Zdenek 645
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 341
ALBASINI Michael 312
HESJEDAL Ryder 294
EISEL Bernhard 291
OFFREDO Yoann 231
BAK Lars Ytting 230
CLARKE Simon 227
GOSS Matthew 217
MEINTJES Louis 199
DOWSETT Alex 180
HAYMAN Mathew 178
YATES Simon 164
SWIFT Ben 158
DE GENDT Thomas 154
TAARAMÄE Rein 143
BOONEN Tom 139
HOWSON Damien 132
SUTTON Christopher 129
MOHORIC Matej 126
SCHLECK Andy 99
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 97
VANENDERT Jelle 96
SZMYD Sylwester 82
VANSUMMEREN Johan 79
HEPBURN Michael 71
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
BOSWELL Ian 27
KERN Christophe 14
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 0
Post by: Arb on January 05, 2014, 23:55
Post by: LukasCPH on January 06, 2014, 06:29
HENAO MARIN Sebastian
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
GERDEMANN Linus
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
FIRSANOV Sergey
POLJANSKI Pawel
STYBAR Zdenek
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
BOONEN Tom
URAN URAN Rigoberto
SCHLECK Andy
VILLELLA Davide
ARU Fabio
ROSA Diego
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
KENNAUGH Peter
APPOLLONIO Davide
NIZZOLO Giacomo
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose
LÖFKVIST Thomas
BAK Lars Ytting
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
WALLAYS Jelle
GOSS Matthew
YATES Simon
BENNETT Sam
LAPTHORNE Darren
VANDENBERGH Stijn
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BATTAGLIN Enrico
RUFFONI Nicola
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 06:33
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 06, 2014, 06:44
That's what happens if you don't sort your team by points. :fp
I hope skidmark will allow a correction.
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 06:46
Post by: LukasCPH on January 06, 2014, 06:48
It's the first time I play this. Obviously. :S
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 06:49
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Post by: Flo on January 06, 2014, 07:15
I haven't seen anyone yet with Sagan? I have Sagan
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Oh Trudg.... last year one of the few with Sagan won, but then again he was 700 points cheaper then ;)
Post by: Flo on January 06, 2014, 07:16
URAN URAN Rigoberto 742
STYBAR Zdenek 645
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 380
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 362
MOSER Moreno 353
MARCATO Marco 327
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt 302
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 274
ARU Fabio 262
VILLELLA Davide 219
GOSS Matthew 217
RABOTTINI Matteo 189
ROSA Diego 181
CRADDOCK Lawson 175
YATES Simon 164
MORTON Lachlan 159
BOONEN Tom 139
BOARO Manuele 137
WELLENS Tim 132
MOHORIC Matej 126
EWAN Caleb 110
STUYVEN Jasper 108
SCHLECK Andy 99
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 97
KENNAUGH Peter 93
ZORDAN Andrea 91
HEPBURN Michael 71
SÜTTERLIN Jasha 43
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew 20
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 0
GERDEMANN Linus 0
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 07:17
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 07:18
Post by: Leadbelly on January 06, 2014, 09:26
25 riders I like (to varying degrees)
7 cheap Hail Marys
1 to make up the numbers
Will Skids be doing all the stats too, does anyone know?
Post by: just some guy on January 06, 2014, 09:40
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 10:34
1000+ 2
500-999 2
300-499 3
100-299 5
50-99. 2
1-49. 14
0. 5
Post by: mc_mountain on January 06, 2014, 13:05
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto 1228
URAN URAN Rigoberto 742
STYBAR Zdenek 645
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 380
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 362
MOSER Moreno 353
MARCATO Marco 327
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt 302
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 274
ARU Fabio 262
VILLELLA Davide 219
GOSS Matthew 217
RABOTTINI Matteo 189
ROSA Diego 181
CRADDOCK Lawson 175
YATES Simon 164
MORTON Lachlan 159
BOONEN Tom 139
BOARO Manuele 137
WELLENS Tim 132
MOHORIC Matej 126
EWAN Caleb 110
STUYVEN Jasper 108
SCHLECK Andy 99
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 97
KENNAUGH Peter 93
ZORDAN Andrea 91
HEPBURN Michael 71
SÜTTERLIN Jasha 43
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew 20
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 0
GERDEMANN Linus 0
you've got some riders I really wanted to include, Rosa, Wellens and to an extent Morton and i'll probably regret leaving out the 90 point sky boys. No EBH, i guess you picked Stybar over him, and that could be the making or breaking of the team. but i dont think its possible to win this game playing it safe...
Post by: mc_mountain on January 06, 2014, 13:14
My team for what it's worth.
25 riders I like (to varying degrees)
7 cheap Hail Marys
1 to make up the numbers
Will Skids be doing all the stats too, does anyone know?
give him a chance! yeah will be similar stats (no age related stuff).
picks i like but omitted Cattaneo, Bennett, Wellens, Madrazo, Rosa, Navardauskas. Barguil and Dennis along with Jungels who I did pick, will be great to follow i think.
No tommeke?
Post by: Leadbelly on January 06, 2014, 13:50
give him a chance! yeah will be similar stats (no age related stuff).
No tommeke?
I wasn't hassling him .... honest guv'nor. Just wanting to know if he was going to be as in-depth stats wise. :P
I dunno why, but I've never been that much of a fan of Boonen. He was part of my very different team when I first was picking some riders, but decided to go mainly with guys I liked - treating this main game as more of a bit of fun, whereas I've thought a bit more about the youth game and would like to do well in it.
Anyway give us a gander at your full team mc if you have it handy.
Post by: mc_mountain on January 06, 2014, 14:20
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
TALANSKY Andrew
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
URAN URAN Rigoberto
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
JUNGELS Bob
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
HESJEDAL Ryder
ARU Fabio
GOSS Matthew
MARKUS Barry
GUARDINI Andrea
YATES Simon
DE GENDT Thomas
TAARAMÄE Rein
BOONEN Tom
SENECHAL Florian
EWAN Caleb
STUYVEN Jasper
SCHLECK Andy
ZORDAN Andrea
LUTSENKO Alexey
EDMONDSON Joshua
YATES Adam
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
NUYENS Nick
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew
WATSON Calvin
HENAO MARIN Sebastian
GERDEMANN Linus
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
hadnt found Colli or Bisolti, so they might nag away at me, but pretty happy with the team. looking for Senechal to prove the better of the 126 point neos. oh yeah snap on Edmondson.
Post by: just some guy on January 06, 2014, 16:03
EVANS Cadel
GERRANS Simon
VANMARCKE Sep
PHINNEY Taylor
KÖNIG Leopold
ROLLAND Pierre
BASSO Ivan
KISERLOVSKI Robert
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
ARU Fabio
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas
OFFREDO Yoann
CLARKE Simon
MARKUS Barry
LÖFKVIST Thomas
HAYMAN Mathew
MORTON Lachlan
BOONEN Tom
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
BENNETT Sam
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
EWAN Caleb
SCHLECK Andy
DOCKER Mitchell
CLARKE William
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew
GERDEMANN Linus
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
AUGUSTYN John-Lee
JOHNSON Benjamin
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 17:11
No no, pretenders please apply! The field is getting smarter every year, and those of us with 3 years experience need to feel good by bettering someone, at least!
On a separate note, first 5 teams now from velorooms. And I love that whenever I've come by here in the last 2 days, all I see on the chat scrollbar is talk of CQ picks. Cyclingnews may get more traffic, but people feel like fans here.
Old misery Hitch... "spread the word, but pretenders dont apply" - he's running scared already... :flustered
Post by: Flo on January 06, 2014, 17:48
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 17:51
Post Merge: January 23, 2014, 21:11
Och ok.....
This is the big boys :lol I'll post the youth team over there.... :angel
As they say - Do your worst.. :(
Post by: Leadbelly on January 06, 2014, 18:31
HAEDO Lucas Sebastian
Good pick (hopefully). Just needs Skydive Dubai to be invited to the right races on the Asian Tour and he could be scoring big(ish). :)
Post by: skidmark on January 06, 2014, 19:36
Post by: LukasCPH on January 06, 2014, 19:43
Lulu on twiceAs long as I'll get Kiš instead of one of my two Luisle Sanchez'es, all is well. :lol
Post by: Flo on January 06, 2014, 19:44
Och ok.....
SAGAN Peter
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
BENNATI Daniele
PAOLINI Luca
GATTO Oscar
HANSEN Adam
HENAO MARIN Sebastian
URAN URAN Rigoberto
MOSER Moreno
BARGUIL Warren
AGNOLI Valerio
IGLINSKIY Valentin
WIESIAK Mariusz
CATTANEO Mattia
LE GAC Olivier
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
TIRALONGO Paolo
BOONEN Tom
VELITS Martin
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
POLJANSKI Pawel
HAEDO Lucas Sebastian
DAVIS Allan
GIORDANI Leonardo
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
DEBRSAY ABRHA Frekalsi
ANTONOV Mikhail
RUDOLPH Malcolm
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
QUINZIATO Manuel
TXOPERENA MATXIKOTE Beñat
KOWALSKI Rudy
This is the big boys :lol I'll post the youth team over there.... :angel
As they say - Do your worst.. :(
There are some good picks in there... however next year remember! 2000+ point riders are most of time not good value ;)
Post by: Trudgin on January 06, 2014, 20:00
Post by: mc_mountain on January 07, 2014, 10:43
He appreciates your patience, and no he isnt deliberately delaying to build up the suspense, its just a very long winded task, but we'll get there soon enough.
well we actually have some cycling to look forward to tomorrow/tonight. THE FIRST CQ POINTS OF THE SEASON!
Post by: just some guy on January 07, 2014, 10:45
Post by: Trudgin on January 07, 2014, 11:47
Post by: 18-Valve on January 07, 2014, 12:13
See if I can take some of arbs early season action :s
If Porte underperforms anything is possible. That's a big if, however...
Post by: Arb on January 07, 2014, 12:33
Post by: 18-Valve on January 07, 2014, 13:49
Not having Gerrans may hurt me in that department, my charge for early leader could lie with Tommy. Evans even if just ok could top5 and maybe some points in a couple of the sprints. Porte for the all his talk should really be top3. Dennis should certainly top10. Many seem to have Ewan so not a whole lot to be gained there. Perhaps TM is the one I'm most interested in though, if the Sun lineup isn't so great he could do "ok".
Porte should at least be second and even that would be a disappointment. I don't know who the cockiest Aussie rider was (Gerrans, I guess?), but Porte's smack talk and mutant-like performances since last season have left no doubt on who to back for this race, IMO. Also has one of the best troll faces in the peloton, along with Rujano and Gilbert. A legend in the making.
Not too sure he can bring it in a GT, but this should be an attainable goal. lol
And LOL @ Tommy V. starting the season with a bang. I really hope he bosses this one. I'm guessing Europar needs them points.
Post by: just some guy on January 07, 2014, 13:53
Post by: Arb on January 07, 2014, 13:53
Post by: mc_mountain on January 07, 2014, 14:00
1. he is going to TDU on a mission to get WT Points - this focus so early will flip up his season.
2. or he's just gonna roll around in the sun and get 5 points.
Post by: just some guy on January 07, 2014, 14:48
i thought about tommy v a lot, but having decided not to pick him, i then saw he was doing TDU so came up with a retroactive rationale.
1. he is going to TDU on a mission to get WT Points - this focus so early will flip up his season.
2. or he's just gonna roll around in the sun and get 5 points.
he also just had a plate removed from his collarbone fwiw.
Rolland for the win from the ET #europcar boys
Post by: 18-Valve on January 07, 2014, 16:40
DENNIS Rohan
MONFORT Maxime
CUNEGO Damiano
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
JUNGELS Bob
KISERLOVSKI Robert
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
BARGUIL Warren
LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose
HESJEDAL Ryder
VAN POPPEL Danny
ARU Fabio
BRAJKOVIC Janez
VILLELLA Davide
GOSS Matthew
LÖFKVIST Thomas
CRADDOCK Lawson
COPPEL Jérôme
DE GENDT Thomas
TAARAMÄE Rein
BOONEN Tom
MOHORIC Matej
BENNETT Sam
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
TEKLEHAIMANOT GIRMAZION Daniel
EWAN Caleb
ZABEL Rick
SCHLECK Andy
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
GERDEMANN Linus
Post by: mc_mountain on January 07, 2014, 16:50
interesting approach. gotta to think that someone in the 1-95 point range is gonna have a good year - i've got 7 but, but if I only strike gold with one or two, that doesnt necessarily give me an advantage of 18's tactic. will see how it plays out. might be the riders more expensive the Gerrans, that make the difference (good or bad).
Post by: 18-Valve on January 07, 2014, 17:26
interesting approach. gotta to think that someone in the 1-95 point range is gonna have a good year - i've got 7 but, but if I only strike gold with one or two, that doesnt necessarily give me an advantage of 18's tactic. will see how it plays out. might be the riders more expensive the Gerrans, that make the difference (good or bad).
Yeah, conventional wisdom says that there aren't enough "promising" picks in the 97-400 points range to do well. And I have 30 of them. :o
I probably still have too many (almost) neo pros as well. Ewan would've maybe sufficed, as most of them don't do much in their first pro year.
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 01:55
BOONEN Tom 135
SCHLECK Andy 123
MOSER Moreno 103
GOSS Matthew 102
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 93
DE GENDT Thomas 88
GERDEMANN Linus 87
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 87
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 86
ARU Fabio 84
HESJEDAL Ryder 78
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 75
URAN URAN Rigoberto 69
VANENDERT Jelle 65
TAARAMÄE Rein 62
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 61
EWAN Caleb 56
PHINNEY Taylor 56
COPPEL Jérôme 55
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew 50
YATES Simon 50
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 48
GUARDINI Andrea 44
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto 43
MOHORIC Matej 43
NUYENS Nick 43
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 42
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney 42
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 41
KENNAUGH Peter 39
VILLELLA Davide 39
DENNIS Rohan 38
HENAO MARIN Sebastian 37
BARGUIL Warren 36
STYBAR Zdenek 35
BRAJKOVIC Janez 33
JUNGELS Bob 32
VAN POPPEL Danny 32
HOOGERLAND Johnny 30
LUTSENKO Alexey 30
GILBERT Philippe 29
ZABEL Rick 28
BALLAN Alessandro 26
BASSO Ivan 26
MORTON Lachlan 26
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 25
WIGGINS Bradley 25
YATES Adam 24
BOBRIDGE Jack 23
SWIFT Ben 23
BENNETT Sam 22
DI GREGORIO Rémy 22
KISERLOVSKI Robert 22
STUYVEN Jasper 22
ALAPHILIPPE Julian 21
CATTANEO Mattia 21
FEILLU Romain 21
MONFORT Maxime 21
OLIVIER Daan 21
BOSWELL Ian 20
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 19
GERRANS Simon 19
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 18
BATTAGLIN Enrico 17
CRADDOCK Lawson 17
EDMONDSON Joshua 17
MARKUS Barry 17
ACEVEDO CALLE Janier Alexis 16
AUGUSTYN JOHN-LEE 16
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 16
CUNEGO Damiano 16
HEPBURN Michael 16
HOWSON Damien 16
POELS Wout 16
ELISSONDE Kenny 15
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 15
NIZZOLO Giacomo 15
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 15
ZORDAN Andrea 15
CAPECCHI Eros 14
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri 14
LÖFKVIST Thomas 14
PINOT Thibaut 14
SÜTTERLIN Jasha 14
COLLI Daniele 13
DURBRIDGE Luke 13
HANSEN Lasse Norman 13
KÖNIG Leopold 13
PARRA BUSTAMENTE Heiner Rodrigo 13
VOECKLER Thomas 13
FELLINE Fabio 12
MARCATO Marco 12
NORDHAUG Lars Petter 12
ROSA Diego 12
TALANSKY Andrew 12
BENNATI Daniele 11
BOS Theo 11
HAEDO Juan Jose 11
POLANC Jan 11
PORTE RICHIE 11
ROLLAND Pierre 11
TEKLEHAIMANOT GIRMAZION Daniel 11
WATSON Calvin 11
WELLENS Tim 11
BELTRAN SUAREZ Eduard Alexander 10
CLARKE Simon 10
ENGOULVENT Jimmy 10
EVANS Cadel 10
KERN Christophe 10
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel 10
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 01:56
CHAVANEL Sébastien 9
DANIEL Maxime 9
GALLOPIN Tony 9
KEUKELEIRE Jens 9
MONDORY Lloyd 9
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas 9
SICARD Romain 9
DOWSETT Alex 8
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt 8
KOCJAN Jure 8
LANDER Sebastian 8
PIRAZZI Stefano 8
STANNARD Ian 8
VAN BAARLE Dylan 8
VANMARCKE Sep 8
VOROBYEV Anton 8
VRECER Robert 8
BAK Lars Ytting 7
FEILLU Brice 7
FENN Andrew 7
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben 7
FORMOLO Davide 7
KELDERMAN Wilco 7
LE MEVEL Christophe 7
MAJKA Rafal 7
PETACCHI Alessandro 7
RUFFONI Nicola 7
ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar 7
ALBASINI Michael 6
BELLETTI Manuel 6
BISOLTI Alessandro 6
BOIVIN Guillaume 6
BROWN Nathan 6
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 6
CATALDO Dario 6
DEGENKOLB John 6
DEVENYNS Dries 6
DOCKER Mitchell 6
HAYMAN Mathew 6
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi 6
LANGEVELD Sebastian 6
LE GAC Olivier 6
MATTHEWS Michael 6
OFFREDO Yoann 6
SELLA Emanuele 6
STEEGMANS Gert 6
TRENTIN Matteo 6
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael 6
VAN WINDEN Dennis 6
VANSUMMEREN Johan 6
ZILIOLI Gianfranco 6
BERHANE TEWELDEMEDHIN Natnael 5
BOECKMANS Kris 5
DAVIS Allan 5
DE BIE Sean 5
DUMOULIN Tom 5
GESINK Robert 5
GUARNIERI Jacopo 5
IGLINSKIY Valentin 5
KING Benjamin 5
LE BON Johan 5
MEYER Cameron 5
MILLAR David 5
MODOLO Sacha 5
POLJANSKI Pawel 5
SAGAN Peter 5
SCHNAIDT Fabian 5
SERRY Pieter 5
STALLAERT Joeri 5
STETINA Peter 5
THURAU Björn 5
VAN DER HAAR Lars 5
VELITS Martin 5
VELITS Peter 5
VON HOFF Steele 5
WACKERMANN Luca 5
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 4
ARNDT Nikias 4
ARREDONDO MORENO Julian David 4
BENNETT George 4
BLYTHE Adam 4
BOARO Manuele 4
BOL Jetse 4
BONIFAZIO Niccolo 4
BRENES OBANDO Gregory Juel 4
DE KORT Koen 4
GATTO Oscar 4
ISTA Kevyn 4
JARAMILLO DIEZ Daniel Alexander 4
KUMP Marko 4
LOCATELLI Stefano 4
MAASKANT Martijn 4
MALORI Adriano 4
MEYER Travis 4
NERZ Dominik 4
PINEAU Jérôme 4
RATTO Daniele 4
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 4
SILVESTRE Fabio Andre Tomas 4
VAN DER SANDE Tosh 4
VANDENBERGH Stijn 4
WESTRA Lieuwe 4
AHLSTRAND Jonas 3
BARBIN Enrico 3
BETTIOL Alberto 3
CANTWELL Jonathan 3
CHEVRIER Clément 3
CLARKE William 3
COLBRELLI Sonny 3
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David 3
DEKKER Thomas 3
DILLIER Silvan 3
GAUDIN Damien 3
GOOS Marc 3
GOUGEARD Alexis 3
HERMANS Ben 3
HULSMANS Kevin 3
HUSHOVD Thor 3
HUZARSKI Bartosz 3
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 3
KANGERT Tanel 3
KRISTOFF Alexander 3
LIETAER Eliot 3
LLOYD Matthew 3
LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose 3
LOVELOCK-FAY Mitchell 3
MANFREDI Andrea 3
MANSILLA ALMONACID Luis Miguel 3
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz 3
MCCARTHY Jay 3
MCEVOY JONATHAN 3
OLIVEIRA Nelson Felipe Santos Simoes 3
PALINI Andrea 3
PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson 3
PATERSKI Maciej 3
PEDERSEN Mads 3
PETIT Adrien 3
PIECHELE Andrea 3
PUCCIO Salvatore 3
RABOTTINI Matteo 3
SCHORN Daniel 3
SENECHAL Florian 3
SERGENT Jesse 3
SERPA PEREZ Jose Rodolfo 3
SOUPE Geoffrey 3
TABORRE Fabio 3
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets 3
VAN POPPEL Boy 3
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos 3
VOIGT Jens 3
ZAUGG Oliver 3
ALAFACI Eugenio 2
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 2
AVILA VANEGAS Edwin Alcibiades 2
BARDET Romain 2
BAUER Jack 2
BEPPU Fumiyuki 2
BOLIVAR HERNANDEZ Isaac 2
BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel 2
BRAMBILLA Giorgio 2
BRESCHEL Matti 2
CHAMORRO CHITAN Juan Ernesto 2
CHERNETSKIY Sergey 2
COQUARD Bryan 2
DASSONVILLE Flavien 2
DE CLERCQ Bart 2
DE TROYER Tim 2
DEMARE Arnaud 2
DEMPSTER Zakkari 2
DIAZ CARDENAS Edward Fabian 2
DIDIER Laurent 2
DOMONT AXEL 2
EIKING Odd Christian 2
FEDI Andrea 2
FINETTO Mauro 2
FIRSANOV Sergey 2
FORTIN Filippo 2
FRANK Mathias 2
GAIMON Phillip 2
GENIEZ Alexandre 2
HAAS Nathan 2
HAEDO Lucas Sebastian 2
HAGA Chad 2
HALLER Marco 2
HANSEN Adam 2
HANSEN Jesper 2
HARDY Romain 2
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis 2
HOWES Alex 2
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka 2
JARRIER Benoît 2
JEANNESSON Arnold 2
JUUL JENSEN Christopher 2
KITTEL Marcel 2
KOLOBNEV Alexandr 2
KONOVALOVAS Ignatas 2
KONRAD Patrick 2
KOREN Kristjan 2
KREDER Michel 2
KRITSKIY Timofey 2
KRUOPIS Aidis 2
LAPTHORNE Darren 2
LARGO QUINTERO Luis Alberto 2
LASTRAS GARCIA Pablo 2
LATOUR Pierre-Roger 2
LIGTHART Pim 2
LODEWYCK Klaas 2
LOVELOCK Jonathan 2
LUDVIGSSON Tobias 2
MACHADO Tiago Jose Pinto 2
MARTIN Daniel 2
MEINTJES Louis 2
MERINO CORTAZAR Igor 2
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael 2
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 2
NORRIS Lachlan 2
O'BRIEN Mark 2
PAILLOT Yoann 2
PELUCCHI Matteo 2
PERAUD Jean-Christophe 2
PLIUSCHIN Alexandre 2
POZZOVIVO Domenico 2
PREIDLER Georg 2
QUAADE Rasmus Christian 2
QUINZIATO Manuel 2
REICHENBACH Sébastien 2
RENSHAW Mark 2
REYNES MIMO Vicente 2
REZA Kévin 2
RICKAERT Jonas 2
ROELANDTS Jürgen 2
ROSSELER Sébastien 2
ROWE Luke 2
RUIJGH Rob 2
RUSSOM ALEM Meron 2
SABIDO Hugo Manuel Madeira 2
SAGAN Juraj 2
SPRENGERS Thomas 2
SUAREZ SUAREZ JUAN PABLO 2
SVENDSEN Oskar 2
SZMYD Sylwester 2
TARAMARCAZ Julien 2
THEUNS Edward 2
THOMAS Geraint 2
TIERNAN-LOCKE Jonathan 2
TIRALONGO Paolo 2
TROFIMOV Yury 2
TURGOT Sébastien 2
VAKOC Petr 2
VAN GARDEREN Tejay 2
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume 2
VEILLEUX David 2
WALLAYS Jelle 2
WARBASSE Larry 2
ZOIDL Riccardo 2
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 01:57
AGNOLI Valerio 1
ANTONOV Mikhail 1
ARASHIRO Yukiya 1
ARCHBOLD Shane 1
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KARATZIOS Georgios 1
KARPETS Vladimir 1
KASHECHKIN Andrey 1
KEIZER Martijn 1
KEOUGH Jake 1
KEOUGH Luke 1
KERF Jérôme 1
KIRSCH Alex 1
KLEMME Dominic 1
KLUGE Roger 1
KOLAR Michael 1
KONING Peter 1
KOSHEVOY Ilia 1
KOWALSKI Rudy 1
KÜNG Stefan 1
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav 1
LAGUTIN Sergey 1
LANDA MEANA Mikel 1
LARRINAGA MUGURUZA Jon 1
LASCA Francesco 1
LEMARCHAND Romain 1
LEMUS DAVILA Luis Enrique 1
LOH Sea Keong 1
MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo 1
MASNADA Fausto 1
MEERSMAN Gianni 1
MEIER Christian 1
MESTRE Daniel Jose Pereira 1
MESTRE Ricardo Jorge Correia 1
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel 1
MORENO HERNANDEZ Salvador 1
MUCELLI Davide 1
NAPOLITANO Danilo 1
NOCENTINI Rinaldo 1
OCHOA CAMARGO Diego Antonio 1
OCHOA Carlos Jose 1
ORBE URRUTIA Haritz 1
PANTOJA TOVAR Darwin Ferney 1
PAOLINI Luca 1
PATE Danny 1
PAUWELS Kevin 1
PAUWELS Serge 1
PEETERS Kevin 1
PER David 1
PESTIAUX Loïc 1
PETERSON Thomas 1
PHELAN Adam 1
PINOTTI Marco 1
PLÖTNER Nils 1
POMOSHNIKOV Sergei 1
POPOVYCH Yaroslav 1
POZZATO Filippo 1
POZZO Mattia 1
RASK JEPPESEN Mathias 1
RASMUSSEN Alex 1
RAST Gregory 1
RATHE Jacob 1
REGUIGUI Youcef 1
REIJNEN Kiel 1
REIMER Martin 1
ROGERS Michael 1
ROHREGGER Thomas 1
ROSSI Enrico 1
ROULSTON Hayden 1
ROUX Anthony 1
ROWSELL Erick 1
ROY Jérémy 1
RUDOLPH Malcolm 1
SALERNO Cristiano 1
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel 1
SANZ UNZUE Enrique 1
SCHELLING PATRICK 1
SEELDRAEYERS Kevin 1
SELVAGGI Mirko 1
SEPULVEDA Eduardo 1
SHALUNOV Evgeny 1
SIEBERG Marcel 1
SIMON CASULLERAS Jordi 1
SINKELDAM Ramon 1
SKUJINS Toms 1
SLIK IVAR 1
SOHRABI Mahdi 1
SPOKES Sam 1
STAMSNIJDER Tom 1
STEENSEN André 1
SUTTON Christopher 1
TANKINK Bram 1
TANNER David 1
TEN DAM Laurens 1
TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres 1
TRATNIK Jan 1
TSATEVICH Alexei 1
TXOPERENA MATXIKOTE Beñat 1
VAITKUS Tomas 1
VAKOC Michael 1
VALLEE Boris 1
VALLS FERRI Rafael 1
VAN ASBROECK Tom 1
VAN AVERMAET Greg 1
VAN DER LIJKE Nick 1
VAN DER POEL Mathieu 1
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan 1
VAN MELSEN Kevin 1
VAN ZYL Johann 1
VANDEWALLE Kristof 1
VANDOUSSELAERE Sven 1
VENTURINI Clément 1
VERMEERSCH Gianni 1
VERMOTE Julien 1
VIENNET Emilien 1
VIGANO Davide 1
VIVIANI ELIA 1
VLIEGEN Loïc 1
VUILLERMOZ Alexis 1
WALKER William 1
WESEMANN Martin 1
WIESIAK Mariusz 1
WIPPERT Wouter 1
WURF Cameron 1
XING Yandong 1
XU Gang 1
ZARDINI Edoardo 1
ZEITS Andrey 1
ZURLO Federico 1
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 02:03
In alphabetical order
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 02:20
1 Cykeltyven 1964
2 Wallenquist 1915
3 The Hitch 1904
4 Froome19 1900
5 mc_mountain 1854
6 shalgo 1842
7 theyoungest 1834
8 the_sceptic 1823
9 CraZyCaLL 1820
10 Object 1812
Post by: Arb on January 08, 2014, 02:41
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 03:43
olafjt 13
Trudgin 10
wizard_of_oz 9
---Dim--- 8
badbrainaj 8
comodoro 7
Side_Shadow 7
Somar13 6
uspostal 6
Hugo87 5
Josedin 5
Nicosix 5
ray200 5
Team_Roubaix 5
Post by: the asian on January 08, 2014, 06:39
Surprised nobody else selected him.
Post by: just some guy on January 08, 2014, 06:57
Post by: 18-Valve on January 08, 2014, 07:09
Post by: just some guy on January 08, 2014, 07:10
Post by: Flo on January 08, 2014, 08:06
Gavazzi is my unique pick.
Surprised nobody else selected him.
Zam was going to pick him until some changes on Cq ranking made him overbudget so someone had to go :D
Post by: 18-Valve on January 08, 2014, 08:07
just went by MC's stats - probably a couple mistakes, as I didn't double check
1. Froome 2766 (1)
2. Nibali 2760
3. Sagan 2673 (5)
4. Valverde 2402
5. Rodriguez 2336
6. Cavendish 1843 (1)
7. Costa 1820
8. Quintana 1634 (15)
9. Greipel 1593 (1)
10. Porte 1486 (11)
11. Cancellara 1461 (1)
12. Chavanel 1376
13. Mollema 1357
14. Martin, Tony 1320
15. Van Avermaet 1311 (1)
16. Martin, Dan 1275 (2)
17. Moreno 1261 (1)
18. Contador 1228 (43)
19. Kristoff 1192 (3)
20. Degenkolb 1166 (6)
21. Kittel 1134 (2)
22. Ulissi 1132
23. Horner 1122
24. Demare 1056 (2)
25. Henao 1050 (2)
26. Van Garderen 1043 (2)
27. Bouhanni 1043 (1)
28. Kreuziger 1008
29. Scarponi 996
30. Kwiatkowski 995 (15)
31. Gilbert 949 (29)
32. Betancur 935 (18)
33. Bakelants 905
34. Spilak 900
35. Viviani 834 (1)
36. Dumoulin 826 (5)
37. Santambrogio 822
38. Terpstra 821
39. Pozzovivo 807 (2)
40. Ciolek 798
41. Gesink 782 (5)
42. Roche 776
43. Majka 773 (7)
44. Weening 772
45. Evans 758 (10)
46. Rebellin 755
47. Talansky 755 (12)
48. Fuglsang 753
49. Boom 744
50. Boasson Hagen 743 (61)
51. Uran 742 (69)
52. Coquard 742 (2)
53. Intxausti 735
Post by: just some guy on January 08, 2014, 08:20
Zam was going to pick him until some changes on Cq ranking made him overbudget so someone had to go :D
ha ha
Post by: just some guy on January 08, 2014, 08:25
Gavazzi is my unique pick.
Surprised nobody else selected him.
seems you team might have 32 riders this year
http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=4911.msg137514#msg137514
Post by: the asian on January 08, 2014, 08:36
seems you team might have 32 riders this year
http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=4911.msg137514#msg137514
Oh Dear.... Off to a terrible start :angry
Is he involved in some doping scandal yet again?
Post by: skidmark on January 08, 2014, 08:56
Big thanks to MC who took my crude data entry and got the interesting popularity info out of it. Just waiting on 3-4 teams who are still over budget to make adjustments before we're good to go.
In the meantime, here's my team - I'm excited to start participating as a fan again:
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
PHINNEY Taylor
DENNIS Rohan
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
LE BON Johan
HESJEDAL Ryder
VAN POPPEL Danny
ARU Fabio
BRAJKOVIC Janez
GOSS Matthew
BATTAGLIN Enrico
VAN BAARLE Dylan
CRADDOCK Lawson
COPPEL Jérôme
DE GENDT Thomas
BOONEN Tom
HOWSON Damien
BENNETT Sam
EWAN Caleb
TEKLEHAIMANOT GIRMAZION Daniel
SCHLECK Andy
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
VANENDERT Jelle
LUTSENKO Alexey
FORMOLO Davide
COLLI Daniele
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew
OLIVIER Daan
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
GERDEMANN Linus
Post by: LukasCPH on January 08, 2014, 08:58
teams with unique riders (subject to change)Reguigui! :win
VeloRooms 1
Oh, and skidmark: At the danger of sounding like a broken record, has my Luisle Sanchez problem been taken care of?
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 10:07
2013 CQ ranking expensive riders, points and # of picks
just went by MC's stats - probably a couple mistakes, as I didn't double check
that's cool, very nice stat. must be an all time low for Gesink.
good to see a couple have faith in Coquard
Post by: 18-Valve on January 08, 2014, 10:26
that's cool, very nice stat. must be an all time low for Gesink.
good to see a couple have faith in Coquard
Yeah, I thought theyoungest would have a unique pick there. Of course, he could do better than last season. He'll most likely score plenty of points at first. Probably needs to podium everything he rides before the Tour, though, to be a good pick.
Yeah, I'm surprised some picked Coquard. High category races, a new leadout man and not much else in terms of support. Would be great if he still delivered.
Post by: search on January 08, 2014, 10:27
that's cool, very nice stat. must be an all time low for Gesink.
yeh, some people even prefered to pick Samuel Dumoulin instead :D
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 12:14
1798 The Hitch
1751 MADRAZO
1721 Afrank
1717 LaFlorecita
1664 Duartista
1663 FF'Wilco
1659 shalgo
1659 VeloRooms
1639 the asian
1627 skidmark
1413 SteelyDan :win
so the impact of uncommon picks, Sagan, Froome, Ciolek, Quintana, Cancellara and Cav mean popularity wasnt a good guide to eventual placings. top 10 teams in bold.
2012
117 bicing 1329
118 MADRAZO 1344
119 minessa 1347
120 shalgo 1352
121 FF'Wilco 1404
122 Ruudz0r 1405
123 The Hitch 1405
124 Froome19 1413
125 skidmark 1434 :win
126 Kvinto 1480
maybe some can look at from the other angle - ie what is the lowest finishing position for someone that was in the top 10 of the popularity rankings. placing 5th on this year's table that would be very much of interest.
Post by: 18-Valve on January 08, 2014, 13:02
Post by: Arb on January 08, 2014, 13:12
Eh but there are more players this year... Gone from top20% in 2012, medianish in 2013, to bottom third this year.
Post by: Flo on January 08, 2014, 13:42
Post by: Leadbelly on January 08, 2014, 15:16
I'm happy with Arashiro and fifties throwback Marc De Maar being two of my unique riders.
Not got many of my picks riding Amissa Bongo, San Luis or TDU - so it could be a quiet January.
Post by: 18-Valve on January 08, 2014, 15:18
popularity scores 2013 ( link to armchair's post (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1105351&postcount=457) ) and 2012 ( link to skibby's post (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=756759&postcount=978) tallied from 'uniqueness' 1st perspective)
maybe some can look at from the other angle - ie what is the lowest finishing position for someone that was in the top 10 of the popularity rankings. placing 5th on this year's table that would be very much of interest.
That was last year's 5th most popular team, Duartista, who finished 87th. Note that there were only 119 teams.
2013 popularity points and placing (top-31 most popular teams)
1798 The Hitch (21)
1751 MADRAZO (67)
1721 Afrank (22)
1717 LaFlorecita (44)
1664 Duartista (87)
1663 FF'Wilco (45)
1659 shalgo (39)
1659 VeloRooms (33)
1639 the asian(43)
1627 skidmark (50)
1614 Mellow Velo (14)
1606 jsem94 (74)
1593 Netserk (111)
1590 Kvinto (109)
1588 Total Package (82)
1585 Tuarts (34)
1585 will10 (3)
1579 18-Valve (83)
1577 the_fool_on_the_hill (26)
1567 Ruudz0r (25)
1563 minessa (71)
1554 Housoe (19)
1554 Karbonkel (17)
1552 search (35)
1549 Armchair cyclist (94)
1547 EvansIsTheBest (47)
1554 squire (12)
1543 mc_mountain (56)
1524 Object (107)
1521 TeoSheva (11)
1503 asdfgh101 (67)
Post by: mc_mountain on January 08, 2014, 15:52
So the range in my score over three years is about 70, interesting. Even though this year I thought I tried harder to pick unique riders.
Eh but there are more players this year... Gone from top20% in 2012, medianish in 2013, to bottom third this year.
the significance of the total number of points is different each year though depending on the number of teams - with breschel on 105 of 120 odd teams in 2012 overshadowing 74 of 87 teams for Haussler in year one. you could have the same total in 3 years and it mean different things in terms of how popular you team was,
That was last year's 5th most popular team, Duartista, who finished 87th. Note that there were only 119 teams.
2013 popularity points and placing (top-31 most popular teams)
1798 The Hitch (21)
1751 MADRAZO (67)
1721 Afrank (22)
1717 LaFlorecita (44)
1664 Duartista (87)
1663 FF'Wilco (45)
1659 shalgo (39)
1659 VeloRooms (33)
1639 the asian(43)
1627 skidmark (50)
1614 Mellow Velo (14)
1606 jsem94 (74)
1593 Netserk (111)
1590 Kvinto (109)
1588 Total Package (82)
1585 Tuarts (34)
1585 will10 (3)
1579 18-Valve (83)
1577 the_fool_on_the_hill (26)
1567 Ruudz0r (25)
1563 minessa (71)
1554 Housoe (19)
1554 Karbonkel (17)
1552 search (35)
1549 Armchair cyclist (94)
1547 EvansIsTheBest (47)
1554 squire (12)
1543 mc_mountain (56)
1524 Object (107)
1521 TeoSheva (11)
1503 asdfgh101 (67)
the question is was 2013 an aberration, i hope so, would be great to be challenging hitch and :froomedog for the the win like kvinto and skidmark in 2012
Post by: skidmark on January 08, 2014, 17:52
Reguigui! :win
Oh, and skidmark: At the danger of sounding like a broken record, has my Luisle Sanchez problem been taken care of?
Post by: Flo on January 08, 2014, 21:56
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo (2.1) *ga
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
GERDEMANN Linus
Tour de San Luis (2.1) *ar
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ATAPUMA John Darwin
MOSER Moreno
MARCATO Marco
ANACONA Winner
AMADOR Andrey
BOONEN Tom
Tour Down Under (2.WT) *au
MOHORIC Matej
MORTON Lachlan
EWAN Caleb
Post by: skidmark on January 09, 2014, 02:49
Post by: skidmark on January 09, 2014, 03:51
To make things a little more fun, even though the official update is coming out after the Aussie Nats RR, I manually programmed the results from the TT so there are some teams with some points.
My effusive thanks to mc_mountain who basically walked me through every aspect of adding teams. I copy/pasted them and then he did the mammoth work of setting up the popularity tab, copying everything into that, as well as erasing tabs from former players who weren't playing, and correcting formulas etc.
Here we go!!!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b09yxt6ejqbmu1j/CQ%20Spreadsheet%20149%20teams%20complete%20Update%200.xls
Post by: just some guy on January 09, 2014, 04:49
Hey guys, over in the CN thread there's been some grumbling about allowing changes to teams after the deadline (which I did in a few rare cases where the spreadsheet had screwed up and I had told people they were under and they were not, only discovered after the deadline). As a result, I told people if they thought this put them at an unfair disadvantage, they could feel free to make a similar change in the next 24 hours. I feel like most people here understand these exceptions, but if you have a big problem with it I at least wanted to extend the offer. See the CN thread for more details, I'm going to avoid that thread for a bit because it's bumming me out.
really , people are odd.
thanks skidmark for all the effort and work, can not have been fun.
well done
great to see the game going on 2014 after Hugo was unable to continue
Post by: just some guy on January 09, 2014, 05:03
I am the last of the point scorers with 17 from the beast :win
1 unique thought it might be 2
Benny J #drapac
89th most popular team higher than I expected tbh
Post by: Flo on January 09, 2014, 07:53
I am 9th :P
Post by: Trudgin on January 09, 2014, 07:54
Post by: mc_mountain on January 09, 2014, 09:15
Okay, so remember that fun game we're playing? It's just getting started, and here is all the info on all the teams! Peruse all 149 teams as you like, talk about your faves, who you think will do well, who won't, what riders you're surprised about. Also, please tell me if you notice any spelling errors or mistakes that should be dealt with as soon as possible.
To make things a little more fun, even though the official update is coming out after the Aussie Nats RR, I manually programmed the results from the TT so there are some teams with some points.
My effusive thanks to mc_mountain who basically walked me through every aspect of adding teams. I copy/pasted them and then he did the mammoth work of setting up the popularity tab, copying everything into that, as well as erasing tabs from former players who weren't playing, and correcting formulas etc.
Here we go!!!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b09yxt6ejqbmu1j/CQ%20Spreadsheet%20149%20teams%20complete%20Update%200.xls
I would also like to take the opportunity to express just how grateful I am that skidmark came onboard and his efforts since, as before he did so there was a strong possibility I would try to run both games. not only did he come onboard to help but so that I could continue my association with the youth game, he dived straight into the much bigger task of the main game and has done an absolutely fantastic job with it.
three cheers for skidmark hip hip :win hip hip :win hip hip :win
Post by: cj2002 on January 09, 2014, 09:41
I have to say, my unique/nearly unique picks aren't entirely surprising, and I'm not convinced any of them will score big enough to make a difference.
All of these riders are shared with 3 or fewer other teams:
ARCHBOLD Shane
KEOUGH Luke
IRVINE Martyn
- those three are my unique picks for a total of 10 points. No great surprise that they're unique, if I'm honest.
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor
- really? Only one other pick? Did you all miss the part where he signed for last year's WT-winning team? With two GT podiums?
SABIDO Hugo Manuel Madeira
- what can I say? I have a soft spot for Hugo. And he massively underscored last season compared with 2012, so here's hoping he can rekindle that form.
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets
- but? but? Amets?! I thought everyone liked him!
OLIVEIRA Nelson Felipe Santos Simoes
- Here's where I start to get a bit hopeful... Nelson was a bit of a nothing man at RadioLeopardNissanTrekShack, but has moved to Lampre to be Costa's wingman. This could work for me or against me, but we'll see.
WESTRA Lieuwe
- Major surprise number 1: only 4 teams with Westra? As we discussed earlier this week in the shoutbox, he is probably Astana's big hope for the classics and simultaneously able to perform there. A bargain, I thought.
ARNDT Nikias
- A bit of a risk, but I figured Kittel wouldn't score more than last year, so why not go for the rider who is following close in his compatriot's footsteps.
BOARO Manuele
- Major surprise number 2. It's about time for Manuele to start winning big. Fingers crossed, eh Flo?
SILVESTRE Fabio Andre Tomas
- Making the step up to WT with the new Trek team after a couple of successful seasons on Becca's baby squad. Probably the most talented young Portuguese rider since our reigning world champion. HIgh hopes!
Post by: Flo on January 09, 2014, 10:56
119th in the popularity ranking. I haven't been this unpopular since school! :party
Lol. My reaction when I found out I was second in the popularity ranking for the youth game was "Popular for once in my life" :P
Quote
BOARO Manuele
- Major surprise number 2. It's about time for Manuele to start winning big. Fingers crossed, eh Flo?
SILVESTRE Fabio Andre Tomas
- Making the step up to WT with the new Trek team after a couple of successful seasons on Becca's baby squad. Probably the most talented young Portuguese rider since our reigning world champion. HIgh hopes!
Manuele :win he wants to win this year he said ;) see saxo thread :win
Silvestre is in my emerging riders team.
Post by: AG on January 09, 2014, 11:47
I would have made room for him.
Post by: LukasCPH on January 09, 2014, 20:05
Got a lot of guys racing in January :winMe too.
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo (2.1) *ga
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
GERDEMANN Linus
Tour de San Luis (2.1) *ar
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
VANDENBERGH Stijn
BOONEN Tom
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
APPOLLONIO Davide
Tour Down Under (2.WT) *au
GOSS Matthew
LAPTHORNE Darren
San Luis is really getting a lot of high-profile riders this year.
Post by: search on January 09, 2014, 20:19
RUJANO Jose
Tropicale
GERDEMANN Linus
San Luis :yum
BETANCUR Carlos Alberto
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
PHINNEY Taylor
MOSER Moreno
CUNEGO Damiano
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
VANENDERT Jelle
AMADOR Andrey
BOONEN Tom
VANDENBERGH Stijn
BELLETTI Manuel
DUARTE Fabio Andres
BRENES Gregory
TDU
GOSS Matthew
THURAU Bjorn
Post by: Flo on January 09, 2014, 20:23
Post by: Leadbelly on January 09, 2014, 20:27
Post by: Flo on January 09, 2014, 20:30
Post by: search on January 09, 2014, 20:32
Post by: just some guy on January 09, 2014, 21:13
EVANS Cadel
WURF Cameron
MORTON Lachlan
HAYMAN Mathew
CLARKE Simon
GERRANS Simon
EWAN Caleb
CLARKE William
San Luis *ar
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
PHINNEY Taylor
ATAPUMA John Darwin
MOSER Moreno
ANACONA Winner
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
BOONEN Tom
DUARTE Fabio Andres
Bongo
GERDEMANN Linus
AUGUSTYN John Lee
think that is all ;)
Post by: skidmark on January 10, 2014, 03:41
Calm down Florrie... Week 1
haha, it's actually week 0.5... I'd wait 'til Sunday, flo, before pulling out any trophy emoticons...
Post by: skidmark on January 10, 2014, 03:42
Post by: Trudgin on January 10, 2014, 11:25
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo
DEBRSAY ABRHA Frekalsi
Tour San Luis
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
QUINZIATO Manuel
SAGAN Peter
MOSER Moreno
GATTO Oscar
PAOLINI Luca
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney (U23)
BOONEN Tom
Tour Down Under
AGNOLI Valerio
ZABEL Rick (U23)
MOHORIC Matej (U23)
BETTIOL Alberto (U23)
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
HANSEN Adam
Read em and weep ;)
Post by: KeithJamesMc on January 10, 2014, 11:30
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo
GERDEMANN Linus
AUGUSTYN John-Lee
Tour San Luis
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
MOSER Moreno
BOONEN Tom
VANENDERT Jelle
YATES Adam
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
Tour Down Under
ELISSONDE Kenny
BENNETT George
HAYMAN Mathew
VAN POPPEL Boy
MORTON Lachlan
MOHORIC Matej
EWAN Caleb
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
:Party:
Post by: froome19 on January 10, 2014, 11:47
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
GERDEMANN Linus
Tour de San Luis
BETANCUR Carlos Alberto
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
PHINNEY Taylor
ANACONA Winner
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
VANENDERT Jelle
BOONEN Tom
DUARTE Fabio Andres
Tour Down Under
MORTON Lachlan
DURBRIDGE Luke
GOSS Matthew
EWAN Caleb
Post by: cj2002 on January 10, 2014, 11:57
Tropicale
GERDEMANN Linus
Tour San Luis
MOSER Moreno
HAEDO Juan Jose
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
BOONEN Tom
SILVESTRE Fabio Andre Tomas
KEOUGH Luke
Tour Down Under
DANIEL Maxime
ARNDT Nikias
WESTRA Lieuwe
DENNIS Rohan
STANNARD Ian
Post by: mc_mountain on January 10, 2014, 12:21
Ok everyone else is doing it........ so here is my January riders
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo
DEBRSAY ABRHA Frekalsi
Tour San Luis
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
QUINZIATO Manuel
SAGAN Peter
MOSER Moreno
GATTO Oscar
PAOLINI Luca
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney (U23)
BOONEN Tom
Tour Down Under
AGNOLI Valerio
ZABEL Rick (U23)
MOHORIC Matej (U23)
BETTIOL Alberto (U23)
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
HANSEN Adam
Read em and weep ;)
nice i like it, can you just clarify your code, am i right in thinking if bold then in your u23 team, if the u23 is bolded in both teams, u23 not bold just in u23? or something similar?
Post by: Trudgin on January 10, 2014, 12:25
Yes U23 whether bold or not means my youth team
On the pernikitiness - are you a Virgo
Post by: mc_mountain on January 10, 2014, 13:06
Haha just means I added U23 after I bolded God yous are pernickety
Yes U23 whether bold or not means my youth team
On the pernikitiness - are you a Virgo
i completely dont believe in Astrology but yes I am a virgo (wonders if birthday is available on line somewhere - reinforcing the traits of a virgo).
anyway I really liked that you added your youth team riders as well.
Post by: Trudgin on January 10, 2014, 14:09
not a believer in Astrology either but Virgos are always the same & I say that as one. Although I'm pernikety about what I'm pernikety about. ;0))
Post by: Arb on January 12, 2014, 06:08
Post by: just some guy on January 12, 2014, 07:01
Gerro mate 100
Evans 60
W clarke 7
S Clarke 5
if they use last years scoring
Post by: Flo on January 12, 2014, 07:59
Post by: LukasCPH on January 12, 2014, 08:02
He's only 50 points from breakeven now. And he's an almost unique pick.
Post by: Flo on January 12, 2014, 08:10
Post by: mc_mountain on January 12, 2014, 10:30
Something like 172 points from OZ nats RR
Gerro mate 100
Evans 60
W clarke 7
S Clarke 5
if they use last years scoring
I anticipate you'll be 3rd in the rankings...
Post by: just some guy on January 12, 2014, 10:48
I anticipate you'll be 3rd in the rankings...
3rd dam thought 2nd
Wizard of OZ then who ?
Post by: mc_mountain on January 12, 2014, 10:52
3rd dam thought 2nd
Wizard of OZ then who ?
greenedge had Hepburn/Howson from TT, and has Von Hoff and Gerro'mate in RR -> 195
Post by: mc_mountain on January 12, 2014, 15:47
Senechal (126 points, 3 teams) - strong, talented rider - should get some good chances on Cofidis in tough one day races, and maybe even stage races with short prologue and/or tough but not too hilly queen stages. My hope is he'll do better than Mohoric at the same price and Alaphilippe in the same mold - both of whom will be lower down the pecking order at Cannondale and OPQS). Will ride at La Tropicale Amissa Bongo.
Watson - (6 points, 11 teams) - been following him since he punctured in the finale of one of the big u23 races 2 years ago, was on my youth team last year (and was a flop). Shouldnt be too hard from him to get 50-60 profit just from finishing WT races and the odd top 15 in a 1.1. In addition 1 or 2 really decent results in the kind of races I outlined for Senechal and he'll be a great pick. Last year he won the Herald Sun Tour for no CQ points and didnt get many chances with his italian amateur team or the national team. Will ride at Tour Down Under.
Talansky - (755 points, 12 teams). One of the rare riders that would have been a decent pick in every year in the game's history (cost year 1 = 76 > 229 > 683 > 755). wanted him the first year but couldn't fit him in, very pleased to have him in year two. Could easily have been at about 1000 points for 2013 if not for illness at Romandie, so I'm hoping that's the minimum full race season score for him in 2014. Could podium 2 or 3 one week WT races, plus top 10 at the Tour, might take on the Vuelta too, or do well in the Canadian WT races in support of Ryder - to be edging in on 1500 points.
Edmondson - (60 points, 17 teams). decent year one at pro level, enough hints he can do well in hilly stages, short tours and one day races.
Markus - (209 points, 17 teams). really wanted him in the team last year, and would have been if not to rearrange the team without Anacona after that injury came to light. Shown he has the speed and strength to complete with the top sprinters and now with a team known for taking teams to SSR and beating up on the opposition. Would have done better in 2013 if not for a broken wrist. Last time I picked a rider the year after a broken scaphoid he scored a pretty decent return.
Next most uncommon riders are Stuyven (108, 22) and Adam Yates (55, 24), both of whom should go well.
riders not in my team...
Missed
Colli
Bisolti
Riders yet to be determinted
Not given enough consideration/omitted on potentially flawed reasoning
Gerrans
Coppel
Duarte
Kennaugh
Popular Riders not selected
Phinney - should do well, but could easily be little or no improvement points wise.
Dombrowski - even though I had him at ~200 last year can't see him getting more than 250 this time round
Vanendert - dont really rate him, suspicious his first good year was the same as Gilbert's epic year, may need to be moved to the section above
Mohoric - will a be a tough year (by many accounts he was having a tough year last year before the World Champs) on a Cannondale team with a lot of riders that'll be stronger/favoured by the team. I have Senechal at the same price.
Villella - could easily do very well, but expensive.
Riders I'd have loved to find a place for
Reza
Wellens
Dennis
Latour
Swift
Bennett, Sam
Relative failures from my team last year that could have easily returned
Evans
Dowsett
Millar
Howes
Boswell
Cattaneo
Bobridge
Post by: mc_mountain on January 12, 2014, 15:49
Taking a hit and miss approach the most matches I can find is 22.
Cykeltyven
CraZyCaLL
Wallenquist
Wallenquist
Cykeltyven
CraZyCaLL
Cykeltyven
The Hitch
Netserk
RiaRoadTrip
Netserk
The Hitch
RiaRoadTrip
The Hitch
If you want to know how many riders you have in common with other teams - cut and paste your team and insert it into Column E of 2014 results tab (over the riders already inserted by skidmark) and put 100 into Column I for all your riders. Go to rankings and re order the rankings - you should be at the top with 3300 (assuming you have 33 riders). teams directly below in the order are the most common with you (divide the score by 100 for number of riders matched). Please post if you find any other 22 matches or if I've missed any higher ones.
Post by: August on January 12, 2014, 16:20
Post by: mc_mountain on January 12, 2014, 16:39
How do I re order the rankings?
in the cell where you would want No 1 to be (under Rank) press the button with the a-z and an arrow down (sort ascending) might be slightly different depending on which programme you are using the spreadsheet in.
hope that helps.
Post by: August on January 12, 2014, 16:46
Post by: mc_mountain on January 12, 2014, 16:55
Don't have a arrow down in the rank column on mine, probably have an older version of Excel. Looks like I can see the teams alike to me in the rank this week column though.
sorry, the A-Z will be in the one of the tool bars at the top rather than in the column... (i'm in openoffice as it happens)
Post by: Flo on January 12, 2014, 17:26
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto, 1228 points, 44 picks
I am just hoping last year was a bad year for him and that he'll bounce back this year. I am not sure he'll be a good pick this year but I can't not pick him for such a low cost. I think he should be able to score at least 1800 points as he's scheduled to race La Vuelta.
URAN URAN Rigoberto, 742 points, 73 picks
It was him or EBH and since Uran will be OPQS's leader in the stage races I picked him but it was a close call. I hope he'll score 1250 points or more.
STYBAR Zdenek, 645 points, 35 picks
I think he'll do better in the classics this year, he would've podiumed, perhaps even won Paris-Roubaix last year if not for the supporter taking him out. He is a bit of a fangirl pick though but I am certain he will improve this year and I'm hoping for 1000 points.
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon, 380 points, 48 picks
At first I wasn't sure if I'd pick him even after he signed with Caja Rural but he will be the undisputed leader in many races and I don't want to risk losing out on 1000 points. I think he'll score at least 700 points.
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin, 362 points, 19 picks
I must say I am quite surprised only 18 others picked him. He's a great climber who could potentially score loads of points. I am hoping for 600 points.
MOSER Moreno, 353 points, 105 picks
A must-have, really. He may have been a bit lucky last year but he still has the potential to score many points. I predict 750 points for him.
MARCATO Marco, 327 points, 13 picks
In his last 5 seasons he scored more than this year each time. He is not very old yet, so I've got hope he'll score a lot of points with his new team. I think 700 points is definitely possible considering his average score for 2010-2012 is over 900.
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt, 302 points, 9 picks
A late addition who I hadn't really considered before. I'm not sure about him at all but I can hope. It can go both ways, but I'm hoping for 500 points.
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey, 274 points, 4 picks
I wanted to pick him last year but didn't in the end, and I almost started regretting it when I saw him in the classics, but then he broke his collarbone. He showed he can climb, TT and also did well in the classics so I couldn't leave him out again for even less points than last year. It depends on how many chances he gets to ride for himself but I'm gonna predict 400-500 points for him.
ARU Fabio, 262 points, 86 picks
I think Aru was great last year but it didn't really show in his points. I am hoping for a Majka-like season, he cost 260 points and scored 773 in 2013. 600 points for Aru is definitely possible I believe.
VILLELLA Davide, 219 points, 40 picks
219 points is expensive for a neo-pro, but Villella could score really well. I actually decided I'd pick him when he'd scored just 40-something points :P I think he could score over 400 points if all goes well.
GOSS Matthew, 217 points, 106 picks
Couldn't leave him out in case he'd start scoring big again, I don't expect it though, I am thinking around 400 points for Goss.
RABOTTINI Matteo, 189 points, 3 picks
My most unique pick. He's a late addition but I think he could do well. 300 points I think.
ROSA Diego, 181 points, 12 picks
I am really curious to see how he'll do this year, it'll be very interesting to follow him. I'm going to predict around 250 points for him.
CRADDOCK Lawson, 175 points, 17 picks
Last year I underestimated Argos's potential to develop talented climbers when I left out Barguil. I don't want to make the same mistake this year :P I think he'll be able to score a decent amount of points, somewhere in the 300-400 points range.
YATES Simon, 164 points, 51 picks
A big talent, I hope it will translate into points. I think he could score well but I'm not sure. I am hoping for at least 300 points.
MORTON Lachlan, 159 points, 27 picks
He did well in some American stage races last year, I hope he can do the same in Europe this year. I think 350 points is possible.
BOONEN Tom, 139 points, 138 picks
Tom Boonen for 139 points? A no-brainer, at least 1000 points for him.
BOARO Manuele, 137 points, 4 picks
This is the 3rd year in a row he's in my team, in 2012 he was a good pick, last year not so much but I'm confident he'll at least equal his 2012 score, so over 300 points. Plus, I like him.
WELLENS Tim, 132 points, 11 picks
I seriously considered him last year and in hindsight it's a good thing I didn't pick him. He's another late addition and I'm looking forward to seeing how he performs this year. I think 200 points is possible for him.
MOHORIC Matej, 126 points, 44 picks
He may be a bit too young to step up to WT level but I don't want to miss out in case he does really well. I am hoping for him to double his points.
EWAN Caleb, 110 points, 58 picks
With some "big" races on his schedule he should be able to score quite a few points on top of the points he'll score in U23 races. As I said before I think he'll be able to score 300-400 points.
STUYVEN Jasper, 108 points, 22 picks
I think he'll score a good number of points this year, nothing amazing but enough to make him a solid pick, 250-350 or something like that.
SCHLECK Andy, 99 points, 127 picks
If he underperforms again this year I'm done with him, but I think he'll do okay this year, he won't be as good as before 2012 but I think he'll score at least 400 points.
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd, 97 points, 76 picks
He didn't live up to my expectations last year but he deserves another chance especially because he is one of the few Sky riders I actually like. 250 points is doable I think.
KENNAUGH Peter, 93 points, 40 picks
I think he'll be Team Sky's next GC contender, at least 400 points for him.
ZORDAN Andrea, 91 points, 15 picks
Fermi suggested him, if Zordan fails I will blame him :P But I think he'll do well, 200 points at least.
HEPBURN Michael, 71 points, 17 picks
He was in my team last year but he didn't perform as I expected him to. This year I have high hopes for him again. The season has started well for him, I hope he will continue to win. I predict 300 points for him.
SÜTTERLIN Jasha, 43 points, 14 picks
I have to say I don't know much about him but he seems talented to me, looking at his results. If he can double his points I'm happy.
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik, 42 points, 90 picks
Another must-have. I'm not sure he'll reach his 2012 level but he should at least reach 150 points which is a great return whichever way you look at it.
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew, 20 points, 51 picks
He was injured last year, 300% return is guaranteed but I think he could even score around 300 points.
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban, 0 points, 89 picks
Must-have, at least 250 points for him but I'm hoping for him.
GERDEMANN Linus, 0 points, 89 picks
Another must-have, I think he can score over 200 points.
Riders I seriously considered:
Zilioli, Howson, Poels, Bennati, Jungels, Navardauskas, Coppel
Fail of the day :hb :
Realizing I didn't pick Edmondson even though I was sure I did :S
Post by: skidmark on January 12, 2014, 18:18
Don't have a arrow down in the rank column on mine, probably have an older version of Excel. Looks like I can see the teams alike to me in the rank this week column though.
I'm in openoffice too, but I think it's the same as excel... I click the column heading (like 'A', 'B', etc) to highlight the whole column, then from the top bar I select Data>Sort and click 'expand current selection' on the prompt (otherwise it will just sort the column and the other columns of associated data will be out of whack)... should allow you to choose to sort in ascending or descending order.
Post by: Trudgin on January 12, 2014, 18:31
Post by: Flo on January 12, 2014, 18:48
Where do I find the spreadsheet with the 2014 results tab?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b09yxt6ejqbmu1j/CQ%20Spreadsheet%20149%20teams%20complete%20Update%200.xls
one of the last tabs
Post by: Flo on January 12, 2014, 18:57
Least matches is zero with Nicosix, 1 with olafjt's (almost) all belgian team (match is Gerdemann) and 2 with Dim (Uran and Stybar).
Post by: Flo on January 12, 2014, 19:03
Where do I find the spreadsheet with the 2014 results tab?
You have 9 matches with Bicycle_Boy and The Amateur and 8 with Hugo Koblet and Yellow Knight
0 matches with wizard_of_oz, Nicosix and olafjt
Post by: Trudgin on January 12, 2014, 19:08
Post by: skidmark on January 12, 2014, 21:21
Most matches for me is Afrank and Wallenquist with 18 matches, 17 matches with Keith and 16 with Froomie, GP_Blanco, tomazo and mc
Least matches is zero with Nicosix, 1 with olafjt's (almost) all belgian team (match is Gerdemann) and 2 with Dim (Uran and Stybar).
Nicosix's zero matches seems to be due to a formula glitch (they definitely have some obvious picks, it showed up as zero for me but there were several matches when I looked), not sure how that happened but I'll try to fix it in time for update 1 right away.
Post by: skidmark on January 12, 2014, 21:27
I always love the 'rider debate' part of the start of the season for this. Lotsa talk about Contador and Ewan, I figure it's a good time to detail my reasoning for picking my team, highest to lowest:
Contador - listen, I don't expect pre-ban Contador levels of dominance, now or ever. I'd be pleasantly surprised, but that's not the point. The point is that he's a fantastic stage race rider, he still won the Vuelta post-ban so he's got lots of potential, just not a slam-dunk, and he was on the back foot last year for the first time in his career since really emerging in 2007. His approach this year can only be better, tactically and training-wise, now that he knows he can't waltz in and win all year long. Add the fact that he's doing 2 GTs and his points should go up to 1800-2200, making him more than worthwhile.
Boasson Hagen - underachiever or not, he's still one of the most talented riders in the peloton, and Sky's got nobody who can do what he can do, in terms of top-level speed, getting over hills, and good TT ability (Thomas is okay but just not as good). One result in a long classic would be great, but if not I expect him to win stuff like the Hamburg race or GP Plouay or Montreal, if nothing else. Doubling of points is reasonable.
Phinney - more of a 'safety' pick than a game-breaker. He'll do just fine if he performs year-round, is healthy for a GT, and shouldn't really get lower than 4th in the Worlds TT. His result in MSR last year was promising for races of length and the first time he's showed staying power on any kind of hill. MSR is harder this year, but if that transfers over to Flanders or E3, that's great; if not, there's still Roubaix and G-W. Shouldn't do worse than 6-700, I wouldn't be shocked (but pleasantly surprised) if he cracked 1000.
Dennis - had a bit of bad luck last year (which has also carried over to this year it seems) but is too talented to leave off. His TT skills and good climbing should make him a threat, if not yet for stuff like P-N and Dauphine (although maybe), at least the American races and that thing coming up in Oz next week. 800 not unlikely.
LL Sanchez - no-brainer, leader at Caja means he'll make the most of his opportunities. 1000 points.
Moser - He's definitely better than last year showed. He had a really lucky first season, he might get back to that level of results, but even if not he's a solid pick.
Van Den Broeck - not as great a pick as his obviousness suggests. Some riders are obvious because they were injured dramatically; he is one. But someone like Monfort, switching teams to become GT leader for 2 GTs while being a solid all-rounder, is about as lucrative a pick. If Monfort's points fit on my team I would have picked him instead. VdB is just fine, but I don't see him getting much more than 750 points, really.
Hesjedal - had a horrible year, and even though his Giro results are somewhat mysterious in terms of why, I don't think it's a sign that 2012 was a flash in the pan. Could be solid (5-600), could be spectacular (2012 level).
Le Bon - pleased to see he's my most unique pick as 5 people only picked him. I dunno, he's got good TT skills and looks real promising in the classics (2nd at Tro Bo Leon and 26th in his debut P-R). Plus he missed 3 months with injury. Certainly you can't just imagine 3 months worth of replaced points and expect them, along with age-related improvement, but I think there's enough there that he could be a great contributor and as much as triple. He'll have plenty of opportunities at least.
Danny Van Poppel - I only didn't pick him last year because I thought he was too young. He proved me wrong, so I'm backing him this year, especially with Trek's dearth of top-level speed. Glad to read today that he's not riding a GT, he's good enough to place highly in a ton of smaller races and pull out the odd stage on a WT race. Don't know what to expect, but 5-700 wouldn't be crazy.
Aru - if you need an explanation, just pay attention to him this year, because it means that you haven't been up until now. His results will speak for themselves.
Brajkovic - I dunno if he'll have enough chances to really recoup with such a stacked lineup at Astana, but all it needs is something like a win at the Tour of Austria (I know, he won't do it if he does the Tour, but you know what I mean), and his record of seasons at more than double his cost make me hesitate to leave him out. One of the last additions, though.
Goss - he can't do worse than last year. He can't.
Battaglin - this is the third year in a row I've got him, so he's gotta produce sometime, right? Pre-crash Giro performance last year showed he's got the flash he was supposed to - with Modolo leaving, I'm crossing my fingers he gets more chances.
Van Baarle - one of the last additions, I'm worried he may go the way of many dutch youngsters and underperform relative to the U23 ranks for a bit. That said, a solid TT and all-round resume should fit nicely with Garmin. I'm thinking more success in 2.1 North American races than ripping up the European scene. 500 points max, and could swing anywhere to below his price, but I'm hopeful.
Craddock - another late addition, what got me was the fact that he'll have a good set of chances at the developing GiantShimano team. His 5th in the U23 TT was the last pleasant surprise last year, after the American races.
Coppel - his inexplicable drop in results is worrisome, but it can't be worse, right? Although the curse of Cofidis kept me from picking both him and Taaramae, because that team just has too much incompetence that would break my heart if I had 2 of them.
De Gendt - I don't actually know how well he'll do, he's pretty mercurial and he might be buried a bit at OPQS. The last addition to my team, if he shows up he can get 500.
Boonen - no explanation necessary. Third time I've had this guy in 4 years.
Howson - Great TTers always get some chances; I don't expect a first year as successful as Durbridge's, but there's gotta be some 3-day race or a few where he pulls out a top 5 based on good TT results.
Sam Bennett - a late addition but I'm happy I included him, especially since he's relatively unique. What really got me was him beating Viviani (and only losing to Cav) in a stage of the ToB last year - even if that was the top of his ability, if he can pull that out a couple of times (and win a few of the smaller races he's sure to get a chance at with NetApp), he'll be more than worth it.
Teklehaimanot - with more opportunities at MTN than Greenedge (plus hopefully no Visa problems this year), his much-vaunted 'engine' should carry him up the ladder of results. I went back and forth on him for awhile, but I decided in the end to throw my lot in with him.
Ewan - yes there's a ceiling, but it's high enough to make it worthwhile, and the floor is high enough to make it a no-brainer. I can't see him doing worse in U23 races, and I could see him doing considerably better. The guy is money, he's been beating WT riders since he was 17, making him the most obvious sprint prospect I've ever seen. He finished 4th on an incredibly hard Worlds RR; on an easier course with a bigger sprint, he could easily win which would give him 36 extra points from that race alone. Throw in another Ncup win of 30 points, plus 50-100 points from the early Aussie races, plus the same from late-season stagaire races, and I see 300 as an easy bar for him to clear. Maybe not, but the lowest he can get makes him a non-gamble.
Schleck - Turn his top 20 into a top 10 and give him a couple of other results for the year and it's hard to turn him down.
Dombrowski - he's too good for last year's level to be where he's at again.
Vanendert - meh, I threw him in at the end because he has enough opportunity to get 400 points, which is a fine return.
Lutsenko - I didn't pick him last year because I thought he'd need a year to adjust; now he has it. No way Astana doesn't give a rider of his calibre from Kazakhstan a bunch of chances.
Formolo - coming as an amateur without a team and getting top spots in Aosta and Avenir, combined with being on a Cannondale squad that has few overall contenders and a good amount of small Italian races, and he's worth the investment.
Colli - see Vanendert, change to 350 points.
Anacona - I shook my head at him last year. Why did Lampre not use him earlier (even after recovery from the broken ankle) with such an impressive showing at the Vuelta as a neo, especially with their lack of depth? Why did he do so poorly at the Vuelta? Tempted to not even take him until I saw he was starting at San Luis, which at least gave me hopes he might ride a full season.
Chaves - of course.
Gerdemann - of course.
Thoughts? Disagreements?
Post by: froome19 on January 12, 2014, 21:34
Well my riders...
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto: I have given my reasoning a number of times. But simply, a very promising rider with amazing potential who can excel in the Ardennes, week long races and in GTs. He didn't pitch up after the Giro last year and so if he can race an entire season this year he should definitely improve his points. He is also doing the Tour this year and so hopefully that will result in a more balanced season. I hoe he has learn how to TT as he would have finished 2nd in the Giro if not for his howler of a TT.
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald: Look at his points scoring potential and he is a no-brainer. He had to abandon the Tour last year and he won't be doing it this year most likely, freeing up a good chunk of the year for points scoring. He has also scrapped the classics buildup recommended by Kerrison and hopefully the more conventional method will allow him to build up well for the classics. His classics results certainly can't get any worse and going on his Cq graph there is only one direction his scores will be heading.
Stybar Zdenek: Not really, my favourite pick. I am a definiely a fanboy, but logically I think he is a tad too expensive. However, I found myself with 600 spare at the end and so in he went, as I cba to change around my team. He has got amazing potential and can definitely have a better classics season that last year. I am not sure if he will be able to challenge in races like Amstel and the Canadian races, but the potential is definitely there.
Phinney Taylor: Also written about him above. So will keep it brief. Exceptionally talented 'apparently'. Also only 23, a lot more to come from him imo.
Durbridge Luke: Also a very talented rider. After a brief dip in his 2nd year as a pro. I see this year as his time to step up to the big time, especially considering his first year Pro cq score. I hope he gets a good race program, but he definitely could be one of my more disappointing picks if he doesn't find ihs rhythm this year.
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon: Briefly hesitated, when I noted him back in the peloton, but not for long. So much points scoring ability and CR will give him a very good racing schedule.
Moser Moreno: Also 2nd year teething problems, but undoubted ability and I and many others, seem to think he is now ready to step up.
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen: Never liked him as a rider, but I never really had a choice of picking him or leaving him out. You can't leave out a rider of his calibre.
POELS Wout: He has had his fair share of problems and there won't be that many opportunities on the OPQS team, but he is a class rider who will hopefully rediscover his way after his horror Tour crash of 2012.
Hesjedal Ryder: Too much pedigree to leave out. More of an insurance rider, he could very definitely score big and I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. He obviously had a mare at the Giro, but his ride in Liege for Dan Martin was one of the best domestique performances of the year and I don't think he has lost his touch just yet.
Aru Fabio: A terrific talent. I liked what one poster said above, if you don't believe it, just watch him this year. On a climber laden Astana team, but talent like this can't be left out.
Goss Matthew: Obviously regressing. But I find it hard to see him getting worse that last year and he does it have it in him to score a hefty amount, if can go back to his 2011 ways. And best of all, you can't really ignore a sprinter at that price, when he is the leader of a team packed with rouleurs and sprinters.
Hoogerland Johnny: He had a hard time last year and should be back with aplomb. The Italian calendar should suit him and there is the potential there for a tonne of points. And the Androni vibe should suit him, I almost feel like it was a homecoming for him.
Yates Simon: Very talented rider. I am not sure just how talented, but I didn't want to risk it. His track performances early in February where he became Points WC convinced me and if not for one or two poor days in Avenir he could have finished higher than 10th.
COPPEL Jérôme: I found it hard to get much info about him, but I went onto his website, and it seemed like he had a real tough time last season and should be back this year. Of course his crash in the Tour was a big factor, it was the climax of his season. He can do well as leader of Cofidis and is still young and improving.
Morton Lachlan: Vaughters propaganda seems to have worked. From all I hear he is immensely talented and his performances in Colorado and other hints makes me very excited for this year.
Swift Ben: A bit of an underwhelming pick, but a craft one imo. He had a horrid year this year with injury, and whilst he won't be anywhere near the top of Sky's priority list. He will be their primary sprinter in most stage races and if he stays fit he should double if not triple his score.
De Gendt Thomas: A rider who is a bit of a conundrum. Claims he had a knee injury, and whatever the reason for his dismal year, he is definitely better than his 2013 results suggested. He won't get many chances to lead at OPQS, but he won't need many to make a good enough return.
Boonen Tom: Obviously
Howson Damien: Should be a golden rule, always pick the U23 ITT WC. Nevermind he posted some terrific results all the way through the year and will be racing on a perfect team for him in OGRE.
KRUIJSWIJK Steven: I so very nearly missed him. On the last day before the deadline, I saw him in another poster's team. Checked him up and realised he had some serious problems this year. He should be back this year and from previous year, can give a good return.
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres: Didn't have a great year, but is the leader of Coldeportes and is also immensely talented. Not to mention his Giro performances were very heartening. He just needs a bit more discipline and consistency, but lets home that comes with age.
Ewan Caleb: Lots been said about him, too much talent to leave out.
Schleck Andy: Could score big, probably won't, but still will make a profit.
Dombrowski Joseph Lloyd: He should have had a storming year last year, it took him a year to adjust to life in the pro ranks, but he should be raring to go this year and he could score big, especially if Sky keep him on a similar schedule to this year where he could get quite a few opportunities to ride for himself.
Vanendert Jelle: A very good rider potentially. Has had serious health problems, lets hope they are a thing of the past.
Zordan Andrea: Indeed, a cut price version of Villella, lots of talent and a good sprint and climbing abilities.
Kessiakoff Fredrik: Was unlucky last year, won't have many opportunities riding in support of Nibali, and I don't think he will make much of a profit. But he is too good not to take for that price.
DI GREGORIO Rémy: Will race a full season on the French circuit and when I went looking for how much he could score, I found that there is a wealth of points available from the races LPM will be doing.
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew: Search doesn't see much in him, but he was impressive in his first GT at the Vuelta and I like taking riders from Lampre as they don't tend to have much leadership clashes. Definitely could turn out to be a climbing sensation, not sure if he will though.
Cattaneo Mattia: I stuck with him again this year. Had awful injuries, hopefully he will finally show his talent.
Gerdemann Linus: No brainer, harsh luck that he was forced out of the peloton for a year.
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban: I don't think he will score much this year as he will take a while to get back from his injury, but who wouldn't take a past Avenir winner for 0 points? (from 2 years ago.)
Guys who just missed out:
Dylan Van Baarle, Diego Rosa, Elissonde, Norman Hansen, Stuyven, D Van Poppel, Atapuma
Post by: August on January 13, 2014, 01:36
sorry, the A-Z will be in the one of the tool bars at the top rather than in the column... (i'm in openoffice as it happens)
I'm in openoffice too, but I think it's the same as excel... I click the column heading (like 'A', 'B', etc) to highlight the whole column, then from the top bar I select Data>Sort and click 'expand current selection' on the prompt (otherwise it will just sort the column and the other columns of associated data will be out of whack)... should allow you to choose to sort in ascending or descending order.
Thanks to both, got it working now.
For me, most matches with mc_mountain (20), Then Flo and Wallenquist (18), then Froome19, tomazo, olopaine, riaroadtrip, Hitch, the_sceptic (17).
Least with Side_Shadow at 1.
Post by: Trudgin on January 13, 2014, 09:05
Post by: cj2002 on January 13, 2014, 09:30
Meanwhile - my season is off to a flyer with a massive 0 points from the Nationals down under. I'm hoping for something special from Linus this week, that's for sure!
Post by: Trudgin on January 13, 2014, 09:46
Post by: just some guy on January 13, 2014, 09:52
Folks, Is there a way to access the spreadsheet without using the dropbox... i cannot access this at work due to firewalls :angry :(
tried to up load direct file too big, will ask dim to load to server
Post by: Trudgin on January 13, 2014, 09:58
Post by: Trudgin on January 13, 2014, 10:01
Post by: just some guy on January 13, 2014, 11:27
best look at the teams race programs they are not riding turkey
Post by: search on January 13, 2014, 11:31
Post by: cj2002 on January 13, 2014, 11:33
For those who went Cobo ---- > #torku ------- > tour of turkey------ > profit.
best look at the teams race programs they are not riding turkey
Apparently Tour of Turkey aren't accepting any teams without a Biopassport. Which means no Conti teams at all?
https://twitter.com/TourDeJose/status/422674300152582144
Post by: just some guy on January 13, 2014, 11:46
Apparently Tour of Turkey aren't accepting any teams without a Biopassport. Which means no Conti teams at all?
https://twitter.com/TourDeJose/status/422674300152582144
Correct
Post by: search on January 13, 2014, 11:47
Apparently Tour of Turkey aren't accepting any teams without a Biopassport. Which means no Conti teams at all?
propably not, but in 2013 they did not invite any other continental teams anyway
Post by: mc_mountain on January 13, 2014, 11:51
tried to up load direct file too big, will ask dim to load to server
if needed in future use something like WinRAR and you can compress the file to under the size limit for attachments here. Long term, maybe trudgin you can find a work related reason to receive something by Dropbox, and see if your IT bods will make a exception for it?
Post by: LukasCPH on January 13, 2014, 13:39
propably not, but in 2013 they did not invite any other continental teams anywayThey couldn't even if they wanted to - as a Turkish HC race, they can only invite Turkish Conti teams.
Until the rules are changed, of course.
Post by: mc_mountain on January 13, 2014, 13:42
Apparently due to problems with his papers, will ride Mallorca instead...
link (http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=68533)
Post by: just some guy on January 13, 2014, 13:43
#mtn *de
linus Gerdemann
cope that wizard of oz ;)
Post by: Flo on January 13, 2014, 14:06
Post by: just some guy on January 13, 2014, 14:09
Nice, also 26 points for Lulu, 79 points total for me now ;)193 I think for me.
lulu is going to bite me on the ass I think.
will do my team run down tonight
Post by: sublimit on January 13, 2014, 14:37
But thats about it I think
Post by: Flo on January 13, 2014, 16:11
Nice, also 26 points for Lulu, 79 points total for me now ;)
Lulu not leading the GC so only 20 points for him and only 73 total for me
Post by: just some guy on January 13, 2014, 16:16
EVANS Cadel when I heard TDU - thought maybe the old dog has 1 more year in him, already 60 1 race, expect 1000-1200
GERRANS Simon was messing around with my team Arbs/Fermi and I were talking oz summer, Arbs brought up Gerro mate, thought him and Evans would give me a good start, Gerro maybe close to profit after the Hearld sun tour
VANMARCKE Sep Fanboy pick I hope wins a big one this year
PHINNEY Taylor Fanboy pick think he will learn from last year, will go hard at spring and then be back for the TDF and WC ITT
KÖNIG Leopold Wanted a NetAPP rider who would get constant points, think they will get a great calender this year
ROLLAND Pierre should go full retard this year again, Europcar need him to score big
BASSO Ivan Robo 1 more proper prep then retire
KISERLOVSKI Robert Fanboy pick and a obvious CQ game pick
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin Will ride a lot for TJVG but should be a good pick for Climbing stage points and GC at san luis and Cali
MOSER Moreno Obvious CQ game pick
VAN DEN BROECK JurgenObvious CQ game pick
ARU Fabio the next Forum Hype train after Quinn all aboard, plus should score well at the Giro
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas Fanboy pick , Could be the Kristoff of the spring
OFFREDO Yoann not sure I need to write anything here ;) Fanboy
CLARKE Simon will be a solid ardennes and break rider , I expect hime to score well
MARKUS Barry Fanboy and needed another fast guy
LÖFKVIST Thomas Götland needs to show, but cheap will have a good program with #iam
HAYMAN Mathew will be the Spring of his career, let off the chain
MORTON Lachlan Fanboy expect him to make a loss
BOONEN Tom Obvious CQ game pick
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 2nd time I have had Steven, more hope than anything
BENNETT Sam Looked a bit of a good sort, expect him to go well just by giving it all
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres Fanboy and going to asia should aid a profit
EWAN Caleb in all 3 of my team ie main , youth and emerging, Will be close to profit by Hearld-Sun tour
SCHLECK AndyObvious CQ game pick
DOCKER Mitchell Fanboy , plus most may not be aware Greenedge will have him as a leader quite a bit 2014
CLARKE William :lol Fanboy should be profit TDU already on 26 points #thebeast
KESSIAKOFF FredrikObvious CQ game pick
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew 20 points who is to say no
GERDEMANN Linus Obvious CQ game pick and in profit
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan EstebanObvious CQ game pick
AUGUSTYN John-Lee old school fanboy pick never thought he would ride again at this level tbh
JOHNSON Benjamin 0 points hardman and wanted a Unique pick
I might lead for a week maybe not mid table here I come but have a team I like
Post by: skidmark on January 13, 2014, 23:14
Well, all the long lists, short lists, innuendo and veiled references to riders we might pick are now a distant memory, and the season has begun. The weekly and overall rankings are, of course, the same this week, and with the major races being the Australian TT and RR championships (as well as those of New Zealand and a couple of stages of the 2.2 Vuelta al Tachira), naturally the leaderboard is peppered with teams that have a good number of Australians. Here is the top 10, with points totals next to them:
1 wizard_of_oz 482
2 greenedge 195
3 just some guy 189
4 WonderLance 155
5 riaroadtrip 150
5 Side_Shadow 150
7 ItalianGigolo 140
8 Tigerion 139
9 hilltopfinisher 135
10 mutschi 130
The mammoth points lead of wizard_of_oz is due to the fact that he/she has put forth an entirely Australian team, as the name might suggest. Points from Gerrans, Evans, Porte, Hepburn, Cam and Travis Meyer, Bobridge, Durbridge, Howson, O'Brien, Will and Simon Clarke, Dempster and Tanner mean that the wiz has 14 of the 50 riders that have scored ANY CQ points at all. So it's not a surprise that the team is in the lead.
Sadly, like his namesake, time might pull the curtain back to reveal the wizard's success as being massively amplified by the early season skew towards Australian riders accumulating CQ points. Recalling from memory, poster microdose had a massive lead from an all-Aussie team the first year of this game, but ended up somewhere around the bottom. Time will tell how well this antipodean fetish pays off. It's safe to say that if you want a shot at at least passing fame in the CQ game, you can probably achieve that by picking a bunch of Aussies.
Going further down the leader board, we find the in-no-way-does-my-name-suggest-Australian-leanings greenedge in second place with Gerrans, Howson, Hepburn and Von Hoff giving 195 points. Just Some Guy rounds out in third with Gerrans, Evans and both Clarkes. Honorable mention goes to game debutante WonderLance in fourth place with a team rife with riders who are, to paraphrase his description from his PM entering his team, 'anglo riders with names that are easier to pronounce'.
This week's top scorers and high movers obviously mimic the overall top 10, although you'll see on the spreadsheet that everyone but the wiz has moved down places, as we were all tied for first with zero points to start this thing. The 2.1 Tropicale Amissa Bongo is underway this week, as well as the continuing 2.2 Vuelta al Tachira, so teams with international riders should be able to play some catch-up.
Here is the link to the spreadsheet: https://www.dropbox.com/s/07v52z5oeb3zfmg/CQ%202014%20update%201.xls
Post by: Flo on January 14, 2014, 06:37
Post by: just some guy on January 14, 2014, 06:45
Jsg third :D
Hopefully 2nd next update.
greenedge does not have lulu or linus :)
lulu will be an issue for me getting top spot, but I have a great squad at tdu and san Luis, so might still go ok
Post by: just some guy on January 14, 2014, 07:18
So I went not lulu, my reasoning was ......
I know he will score well, probably very well, but I am thinking the UCI might or another darkside issue put a stop to his season.
it was a gamble and as I said probably will bite me on the ass, but one I was willing to take. The funny thing is I assumed 90% of team would have him, seems only 48 out of 150 have lulu.
I do wonder if it will be something like, and the 1st non lulu team placed 39th is ..... :lol
Post by: Trudgin on January 14, 2014, 09:40
Post by: Trudgin on January 14, 2014, 09:41
it was a gamble and as I said probably will bite me on the ass, but one I was willing to take. The funny thing is I assumed 90% of team would have him, seems only 48 out of 150 have lulu.
I do wonder if it will be something like, and the 1st non lulu team placed 39th is ..... :lol
Is LuLu not verging on a possible ban?
Post by: Arb on January 14, 2014, 12:51
Post by: Trudgin on January 14, 2014, 13:26
Post by: Flo on January 14, 2014, 16:28
Post by: KeithJamesMc on January 14, 2014, 16:51
Lulu 36 points already :)
Don't count your chickens before the DC results are in ;-)
Post by: Flo on January 14, 2014, 16:56
Post by: KeithJamesMc on January 14, 2014, 16:59
What are DC results? :SDoping Control
Post by: Flo on January 14, 2014, 17:01
Doping Control
:P okay
Post by: Flo on January 19, 2014, 15:57
Post by: just some guy on January 20, 2014, 07:36
Will overtake Greenedge but JTL let the team down and riaroadtrip has lulu and Linus so should move into 2nd. Skids with the update
will have to wait and see as all eyes turn to San Luis to see if the no OZ people do enough to overtake wizard of OZ
Post by: Arb on January 20, 2014, 07:49
Doping Control
I'm sure Berhane has a TUE.
Post by: just some guy on January 20, 2014, 08:27
Dam Guess I stay in 3rd
Will overtake Greenedge but JTL let the team down and riaroadtrip has lulu and Linus so should move into 2nd. Skids with the update
will have to wait and see as all eyes turn to San Luis to see if the no OZ people do enough to overtake wizard of OZ
or maybe not.
might get done by the linus lulu folks who had points from oz or nz nats.
ahh the fall starts earlier every year :lol
Post by: skidmark on January 20, 2014, 19:11
The early-season staple on the African Calendar, the Tropicale Amissa Bongo, is usually an opportunity for some top-level French teams to stretch their legs as they start their seasons, and the chance for emerging domestic African talents to get a chance to shine in one of the continent's biggest races. Despite being relatively isolated on the early-season calendar, it hasn't had much attention or impact on the CQ game in the last few years.
Not so this edition. Right from the start, the hardest stage, the best riders broke away and settled the hierarchy, with the rest of the week being a race of tactics and bonus seconds. Two strong riders who spent 2013 being mostly unwanted, Luis Leon Sanchez and Linus Gerdemann, clearly had something to prove. Gerdemann, in his first race since 2012 with his new team MTN-Qhubeka, got 4th on the first stage and ended 5th on the overall, good for 53 points. Sanchez was more notably aggressive, winning first on the first stage, second on the second stage, and getting the leader's jersey for most of the race before being beaten by an astute Natnael Berhane by bonus seconds on the final stage. Sanchez scored an impressive 143 points this week, making him temporarily the CQ leader for 2014.
At any rate, Gerdemann is among the game's most popular picks (89 teams have him) and Sanchez is up there too (48 teams). At this early stage, that's sufficient to turn the rankings upside down.
This Week's Top Scorers:
1: Ludwigzgz and Zuremelk - 263 (Berhane and Sanchez)
3. mc_mountain and EvansIsTheBest - 231 (Sanchez, Gerdemann, Seneschal)
5. 28 teams with Gerdemann and Sanchez - 196
The rare combo of Berhane and Sanchez (top 2 riders so far in 2014) nets Ludwigzgz and Zuremelk joint top spot, but as they scored no points in the previous week it's not quite enough to get them in the top 10, as they are both tied for 12th overall. The highest ranked team (the only one in the top 10 last week) with both Sanchez and Gerdemann was riaroadtrip, who is among the pile tied for 5th highest scorer of the week.
This Week's Top Movers:
1. Ludwigzgz and Zuremelk - +78
3. mc_mountain - +68
4. ten teams (Afrank, ansimi, Cyivel, karlboss, Maaaaaaaarten, Oliveira, Pentacycle, rywann, Team Roubaix, the Hitch) at +59
Not surprisingly, all the high movers are teams that scored no points in the Aussie and NZ nationals last week, so they're going from being tied for 90th to being near the top of the heap. Speaking of said heap:
Top 10:
Rank Team Points
1 wizard_of_oz 482
2 riaroadtrip 346
3 Ferminal 316
4 Geraint Too Fast 301
5 WonderLance 298
6 18-Valve. (pithy) 296
6 Kazistuta 296
6 Ruudz0r 296
6 Ruvu75 296
10 EvansIsTheBest 281
10 the_sceptic 281
Despite scoring zero points, Wizard of Oz maintains top spot on the strength of a whole whack of points from the Aussie nationals. With the Tour Down Under this week often being targeted by Aussies, but with a World Tour field, as well as the 2.1 Tour de San Luis going on with alot of WT teams and big picks, it should be a very interesting week to watch.
download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lrm9kokz14rp218/CQ%202014%20update%202.xls
Post by: skidmark on January 20, 2014, 19:12
or maybe not.
might get done by the linus lulu folks who had points from oz or nz nats.
ahh the fall starts earlier every year :lol
Indeed, you got unceremoniously turfed to 21st place. But, good news is, it's pretty close up there, so you've got a decent chance at redemption should you have a good week at TDU and San Luis.
Post by: Flo on January 20, 2014, 19:47
Post by: Leadbelly on January 20, 2014, 21:15
Post by: sublimit on January 21, 2014, 14:02
Post by: just some guy on January 22, 2014, 08:06
so Evans Atapuma and W Clarke are my guys to get high into the top 10
but of course my predicitions are usually wrong :)
Post by: Flo on January 24, 2014, 21:31
Atapuma way down now because of the tt :( this is gonna be a problem in other races :(
And Amador 5th so no points for him :we all gonna die:
Post by: just some guy on January 25, 2014, 07:03
Phinney you muppet. TDU looking very good
any ways looking ahead
New Zealand Cycle Classic
Johnson Ben
Grand Prix Cycliste la Marseillaise
0 riders
G.P. Costa degli Etruschi
teams still to come But
Basso Ivan
Etoile de Bessèges
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
so not much until 5th of Feb races
Post by: Flo on January 26, 2014, 16:44
Post by: just some guy on January 26, 2014, 17:01
somewhere arounf 600 I guess
and good news Gerro wants to win the Hearld Sun tour , sniper ;)
Post by: mc_mountain on January 26, 2014, 18:05
:shh
somewhere arounf 600 I guess
and good news Gerro wants to win the Hearld Sun tour , sniper ;)
i've got you at over 700 and in top 5 scorers!
As for the TDU being over rated, that's a discussion that needs to happen without the blinkers of CQ. We all knew there would be tonnes of points available from the race, and could have picked accordingly - making Gerrans scarcity all the more staggering.
Post by: 18-Valve on January 26, 2014, 19:11
As for the TDU being over rated, that's a discussion that needs to happen without the blinkers of CQ. We all knew there would be tonnes of points available from the race, and could have picked accordingly - making Gerrans scarcity all the more staggering.
And doing so can backfire, also. See: Rohan Dennis. I expected at least 150 points from him at the Aussie championships and the TDU. I only picked him because of that and the ToC, thinking he might double his points this year...
Anyway, at this point I think it's more likely that Gilbert will turn out to be a must pick, rather than Gerrans. Gerro may not do much post-San Remo. A top-15 in Liege isn't much to get excited about, though I guess the world's road race does suit him.
Post by: LukasCPH on January 26, 2014, 19:54
The TDU appears to have a huge influence right now, as 75% (or something like that) of all points come from this one race.
But over the course of the year, the Tour de Pologne, ENECO Tour, Tour de Romandie etc. will offer just as many points, not to mention the many, many HC races that take place all the time - there's one almost every week.
In 2013 Riblon won the Tour de Pologne; did that turn him into a must-pick?
Post by: Flo on January 26, 2014, 20:27
i've got you at over 700 and in top 5 scorers!
As for the TDU being over rated, that's a discussion that needs to happen without the blinkers of CQ. We all knew there would be tonnes of points available from the race, and could have picked accordingly - making Gerrans scarcity all the more staggering.
TJ Slagter was in the top 10 of the World Tour ranking for a long while all because of that one race. To me a race without a TT or a proper mountain stage should not be worth 220 points. Look at Gerrans, scoring 369 points because he won 1 meaningless stage.
I am happy they split up the WT category but imo CQ should not categorize races based on their UCI status but based on common sense.
And of course there are still plenty of points left to score, but I am now over 700 points behind JSG and plenty of others, which is a lot.
I realize I am being extremely childish but that's just because I'll still be at 300 frigging points mid February. :angry
Post by: search on January 26, 2014, 20:45
Post by: froome19 on January 26, 2014, 21:27
Post by: 18-Valve on January 27, 2014, 07:51
TJ Slagter was in the top 10 of the World Tour ranking for a long while all because of that one race. To me a race without a TT or a proper mountain stage should not be worth 220 points. Look at Gerrans, scoring 369 points because he won 1 meaningless stage.
I am happy they split up the WT category but imo CQ should not categorize races based on their UCI status but based on common sense.
And of course there are still plenty of points left to score, but I am now over 700 points behind JSG and plenty of others, which is a lot.
I realize I am being extremely childish but that's just because I'll still be at 300 frigging points mid February. :angry
I'm cool with it being WT, regardless of the outcome. IMO it's good for Australian cycling. Gerrans, Ulissi, Evans, Porte... all great riders, IMO, who showed up with some pretty good form. Plus Gesink always peaks for his first race of the season and yet didn't even manage to land a top-5. That's pretty telling in itself. :P
In the other race it was only Quintana who only had to put in a big effort because of Gaimon's head start. Otherwise he would've got 150+ points almost for free.
Post by: Trudgin on January 27, 2014, 10:30
Post by: just some guy on January 27, 2014, 10:41
Will there be an update of the spreadsheets?
yep , once cq update the downloads section I think.
also skidmark in north american somewhere so he gets to monday later than us.
Post by: al_pacino on January 27, 2014, 10:44
Post by: Trudgin on January 27, 2014, 11:15
yep , once cq update the downloads section I think.
also skidmark in north american somewhere so he gets to monday later than us.
Its those pesky time zones again..... :angry
Post by: mc_mountain on January 27, 2014, 12:04
Its those pesky time zones again..... :angry
timezones wont really be an issue, will be more down to when CQ release the download.
Edit - what a waste of post 1000! no offence to you trudgin of course.
Post by: LukasCPH on January 27, 2014, 12:14
Edit - what a waste of post 1000! no offence to you trudgin of course.Remember, it's only a number. ;)
Post by: Trudgin on January 27, 2014, 12:23
timezones wont really be an issue, will be more down to when CQ release the download.
Edit - what a waste of post 1000! no offence to you trudgin of course.
It was 1001......
Post by: mc_mountain on January 27, 2014, 12:24
It was 1001......
I have posted in another thread since...
Post by: Trudgin on January 27, 2014, 12:31
Post by: Trudgin on January 27, 2014, 15:36
Big boys
1st Dubai
URAN URAN Rigoberto
VELITS Martin
SAGAN Peter
MOSER Moreno
GP la marseillaise
BARGUIL Warren
KOWALSKI Rudy
GP Etruschi
CATTANEO Mattia
Besseges
KOWALSKI Rudy
CATTANEO Mattia
Tour of Qatar
IGLINSKIY Valentin
BOONEN Tom
HAEDO Lucas Sebastian
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
AGNOLI Valerio
GATTO Oscar
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
BENNATI Daniele
Tour of Oman
SAGAN Peter
MOSER Moreno
AGNOLI Valerio
GATTO Oscar
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
BENNATI Daniele
thoughts please :o
Post by: Flo on January 27, 2014, 15:45
Post by: Trudgin on January 27, 2014, 15:54
And Uran and Barguil... I've got bucket loads of faith in Barguil
Post by: Flo on January 27, 2014, 16:04
:S
Gran Premio Costa degli Etruschi - Alta Maremma (2.1)
ZORDAN Andrea :win
ROSA Diego :win
Herald Sun Tour (2.1)
GOSS Matthew :win
MOHORIC Matej :win
Etoile de Bessèges (2.1)
:S
Dubai Tour (2.1)
MOSER Moreno :win
URAN Rigoberto :win
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt :win
No fancy start lists for the Trofeos yet
More than I originally thought, still I don't expect more than a handful of points
Hoping the win smilies bring then luck :beaten
Post by: Flo on January 27, 2014, 16:08
BOONEN Tom
HEPBURN Michael
BOARO Manuele
VILLELLA Davide
STUYVEN Jasper
Tour of Oman (2.HC)
HEPBURN Michael
BOARO Manuele
MOSER Moreno
BOONEN Tom
STYBAR Zdenek
URAN Rigoberto
SCHLECK Andy
Tour Méditerranéen Cycliste Professionel (2.1)
ROSA Diego
ZORDAN Andrea
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Post by: cj2002 on January 27, 2014, 16:22
Herald Sun Tour (2.1)
GOSS Matthew :win
:fp
GP Marseille
Thibaut Pinot #fdj
Etruschi
HOOGS! #champnl
Besseges
Jerome Coppel #cofidis
Chavanel Minor #fdj
Dubai
Moreno Moser #cannondale
Fabio Silvestre #trek
Nelson Oliveira #lampre
Alex Dowsett #movistar #champgb
Rigo Uran #opqs
Qatar
Tom Boonen #opqs
Lieuwe Westra #astana
Yogi #sky
Sam Bennett #netappendura
Manuele Boaro #tinkoff
Oman
Moreno Moser #cannondale
Rigo Uran #opqs
Chavanel Minor #fdj
Pinot Gris #fdj
Andy "2 Grand Tours" Schleck #trek #yellow #pink
Tom Boonen #opqs
Lieuwe Westra #astana
Sam Bennett #netappendura
I was feeling pretty good about that list until I saw that Trudgin has Peto Sagan :fp
Post by: Trudgin on January 27, 2014, 17:23
Post by: just some guy on January 27, 2014, 18:59
Post by: skidmark on January 28, 2014, 02:27
As the famous Shakespearean quote goes, 'what's past is prologue'. Carrying that out as a cycling metaphor to this week's rankings, one would have to agree that if the first two weeks were a prologue, this was the first (mayyybe cat 2) mountaintop finish. The mammoth amount of points available this week dwarf the previous two, creating some serious head starts and some serious gaps (the top 6 scorers this week outscored the highest score of the first two weeks). Our season is longer than the 3 weeks of a grand tour, of course, and many key riders for this game haven't even turned a pedal in anger yet, so we can only carry the comparison so far - the old 'you can't win on the first mountain stage but you can definitely lose' is perhaps a tad too dramatic.
The Tour Down Under, although I'll admit was more exciting than I thought it would be, ended up fairly predictable in terms of CQ points. As places 1,2 and 4 were taken by the podium of the Aussie national RR, it's no surprise that our top scorers this week were among the same names that were already at the top in week 1. San Luis also provided some exciting racing, as we got to see what big stars were already in form (or perhaps in Quintana's case just so good that they destroy everyone even when not in top shape) and which were out for a nice summery training ride. As far as this game goes, some of the more popular picks seemed to be in the latter category and so did not collect the points bonanza of popular picks Gerdemann and Sanchez last week.
The top ten is quite the mixed bag between teams who were already there (6 of the top ten shift less than 3 spots) and those that have leapt quite dramatically up the standings this week. As probably could have been predicted, the all-Australian Wizard of Oz, already our number one, takes top honours with Gerrans, Evans, Porte, Haas and some dribs and drabs from other riders. With 1500 points already (500 ahead of second place), the only question is 'how long will it take the other teams to catch up'? With a relatively tame week coming up (two 1.1 races to kick off the European calendar) and some 2.1 races the week after - including another Australian race - it could very well be until Paris-Nice and the classics that the gap starts to close.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Wizard of Oz - 1021
2. riaroadtrip - 728
3. just some guy - 710
4. mutschi - 577
5. Geraint Too Fast - 568
The top 2 overall from last week extend their lead by being the top 2 scorers this week. We've already talked about the Wiz, but riaroadtrip continues a hot streak and mixes it up by having Gerrans, Porte, and Quintana. Just some guy, on the strength of Evans/Gerrans combining for over 600 points, gets a few others here and there from Atapuma and others for third place.
This Week's High Movers
1. uspostal (+72)
2. Ben1376 (+70)
3. highoctane (+68)
4. fraserhughes (+59)
5. minessa (+58)
Here we see some new names, as big points + early season = lower teams moving up a ton. Uspostal got 231 of 281 total points this week (Arredondo and a good few 15-30 pointers), Ben 331 of 384 total points, and so on.
Top ten overall:
rank / (+/-) / Team name / Points
1 (-) Wizard of Oz 1503
2 (-) Riaroadtrip 1074
3 (+18) Just Some Guy 952
4 (-) Geraint Too Fast 869
5 (+41) Mutschi 760
5 (-2) Ferminal 760
7 (+36) ItalianGigolo 749
8 (-2) Ruvu75 726
9 (-3) 18-Valve 717
10 (+8) lenissart 713
I was thinking of doing a feature called 'best unique pick of the week', as I figured it'd be easy since I remembered reading in the CN thread about Jancouver picking Gaimon, and for some reason I remembered that being the only team with it (even though it says in the thread otherwise). Of course, simple also has Gaimon, so although it's a great pick, there are 2 reaping the benefit. Perhaps 'best rare pick' would work. Definitely Gaimon is good, and definitely Haas (Oz, mutschi, Tigerion and Ben1376) has a few people feeling very satisfied. 20 teams had Gerrans and 17 had Quintana, so that's a leg up for a small portion of the teams, but obviously not enough to qualify as 'rare' (I'd say less than 5 would be rare). Perhaps we can do this in the future.
Finally, at the bottom of things, the good news is every team has scored points as of this week! The bad news is that the bottom 20 teams haven't yet cracked 100 points overall. But like I said at the top, it's a long season - you know that when Phillip Gaimon or Adam Hansen is outscoring your team that a) it's not going great yet, but more importantly b) it's still really early going.
Link to update: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l3jkp4nvmx1dweg/CQ%202014%20update%203.xls
Post by: skidmark on January 28, 2014, 02:32
Its those pesky time zones again..... :angry
Yeah, that was a bit frustrating this week. I had set aside time in the morning (for me in CST) to do the update since it's usually out by the time I wake up, but come 11:30 (which is, what, 4:30pm CET? 5:30?), it still wasn't there. Piecing together from a post in the CN thread, the update came out less than an hour after that, but I had already moved on with my daytime commitments (which involved not being at a computer at all) and couldn't get to it until after dinner (now). And, of course, I'm a bit detailed, so it took a bit of time...
Either way, pardon the delay. I hope you guys like the update.
Post by: Trudgin on January 28, 2014, 06:10
Believe me I'm grateful that someone, somewhere is working this out.. My lack of available technology means I could never do it myself.. ;0))
Post by: Flo on January 28, 2014, 06:55
:fp
GP Marseille
Thibaut Pinot #fdj
Etruschi
HOOGS! #champnl
Besseges
Jerome Coppel #cofidis
Chavanel Minor #fdj
Dubai
Moreno Moser #cannondale
Fabio Silvestre #trek
Nelson Oliveira #lampre
Alex Dowsett #movistar #champgb
Rigo Uran #opqs
Qatar
Tom Boonen #opqs
Lieuwe Westra #astana
Yogi #sky
Sam Bennett #netappendura
Manuele Boaro #tinkoff
Oman
Moreno Moser #cannondale
Rigo Uran #opqs
Chavanel Minor #fdj
Pinot Gris #fdj
Andy "2 Grand Tours" Schleck #trek #yellow #pink
Tom Boonen #opqs
Lieuwe Westra #astana
Sam Bennett #netappendura
I was feeling pretty good about that list until I saw that Trudgin has Peto Sagan :fp
You missed Manuele :win on the Oman startlist :o :fp
Post by: skidmark on January 28, 2014, 18:04
The time zones comment was meant to be humorous i haven't seen any cycling yet because of timezones & I'd just listened to a podcast regarding timezones, but as 2 people have now picked up on the comment, I'm now explaining it here.
Believe me I'm grateful that someone, somewhere is working this out.. My lack of available technology means I could never do it myself.. ;0))
Oh yeah, I didn't take it seriously, I was just trying to explain why it took so long, just unfortunate timing!
Post by: Flo on January 28, 2014, 19:50
| WELLENS Tim |  |
| STYBAR Zdenek |  |
| URAN Rigoberto | |
| ARU Fabio |  |
| DOMBROWSKI Joe |  |
| KENNAUGH Peter | |
| YATES Simon |  |
| CHAVES Johan Esteban | |
| AMADOR Andrey |  |
| SÜTTERLIN Jasha | |
| SANCHEZ Luis Leon |  |
| GERDEMANN Linus |  |
Not bad :o Now I just have to score points :-x :o ;)
Post by: Trudgin on January 30, 2014, 18:57
Post by: oliveira on January 31, 2014, 00:17
About my team, January was a month to mitigate losses. Anyway, some points were delivered courtesy of the Bongo popular duo Linu/Lulu, and Nizzolo (whose success is vital to the team) got a stage win that is a nice 2014 prologue, what makes it an OK kinda month.
My roosters for February's 1st week races:
Grand Prix Cycliste la Marseillaise
FEILLU Romain
PATERSKI Maciej
KREDER Michel
Gran Premio Costa degli Etruschi
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BELLETTI Manuel
BATTAGLIN Enrico
Etoile de Bessèges
FEILLU Romain
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
KREDER Michel
PATERSKI Maciej
0% World Tour by now :cool
Herald Sun Tour
GOSS Matthew
Dubai Tour
BRAJKOVIč Janez
GUARDINI Andrea
HESJEDAL Ryder
NUYENS Nick
Post by: LukasCPH on January 31, 2014, 08:42
For me, the TDU/San Luis wasn't that successful. A couple of points here and there, but not much.
I haven't looked into who of my riders is lined up for the early February races, although I know that Lappers had better lap up some points in the Herald Sun Tour. :D
Post by: cj2002 on January 31, 2014, 10:49
January Update
As we have no more racing this month, and a busy February ahead of us, I thought I would do a quick count-up of this January's winners, and the VR CQ teams who get the bragging rights as we await the start of the European season.
The success of Simon Gerrans #champau in his homeland have put those teams with him selected out in front. 18 Valve, JSG and Dim all benefit. 18 Valve's selection of Lulu #cajarural, and JSG's of Cadel Evans #bmc keep them a point clear of our beloved leader, while August and Arbs can also hold their head up high after a successful first month of the season.
The popularity of Michael Hepburn #champau and Luis Leon Sanchez #cajarural mean that 18 of the teams on the current list of 30 have chalked up wins already. Bonus points to Trudgin (Debesay #mtn), Zam (Modolo #lampre) and Arbs (Porteborg #sky) who have unique winners so far.
Bicing will be weeping after popular consensus robbed Marcel Kittel #giant of his win in the People's Thingy Crit, but we can all expect to see the German featuring high up this list as the season progresses. Meanwhile I sit in esteemed company with the Velorooms collective team and 10 others who have so far failed to find the top step of the podium.
The season is still young - let's see what February brings.
Post by: search on January 31, 2014, 19:41
Grand Prix Cycliste la Marseillaise
GALLOPIN Tony
MADRAZO Ángel
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
Gran Premio Costa degli Etruschi
COLLI Daniele
DUARTE Fabio Andres
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BELLETTI Manuel
BATTAGLIN Enrico
Herald Sun Tour
GOSS Matthew
Etoile de Bessèges
GALLOPIN Tony
MADRAZO Ángel
DUARTE Fabio Andres
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
Dubai Tour
PHINNEY Taylor
HESJEDAL Ryder
Tour Méditerranéen
PHINNEY Taylor
HOOGERLAND Johnny
DUARTE Fabio Andres
MADRAZO Ángel
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
BETANCUR Carlos Alberto
Mallorca Challange
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
DE GENDT Thomas
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
CHAVES Johan Esteban
CUNEGO Damiano
THURAU Bjorn
AMADOR Andrey
GERDEMANN Linus
LöFKVIST Thomas
HOOGERLAND Johnny
Tour of Qatar
BOONEN Tom
VANDENBERGH Stijn
BATTAGLIN Enrico
BOS Theo
MOSER Moreno
Vuelta a Andalucia
VANENDERT Jelle
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
Tour of Oman
LöFKVIST Thomas
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
GALLOPIN Tony
BOONEN Tom
VANDENBERGH Stijn
SCHLECK Andy
MOSER Moreno
BATTAGLIN Enrico
Post by: Josedin on February 02, 2014, 01:57
Etruscan Coast GP 2014 (1.1): Davide Villella
Grand Prix Cycliste la Marseillaise 2014:
For the start of the coming race will more
Post by: just some guy on February 02, 2014, 16:41
Post by: Flo on February 02, 2014, 16:44
Post by: Flo on February 02, 2014, 16:51
Post by: mc_mountain on February 03, 2014, 18:01
If skidmark has posted the updates covering the 'prologue' to the season, I am taking on these next two transitional/transfer stages. I'll be followed by Geraint Too Fast as he carries us through into March, then search takes over until the Ronde.
Hugo Koblet will post the updates for Pais Vasco, P-R, the Ardennes and Romandie. 2011 champion insgve will be at the helm for the Giro and Scandinavian races in May and TeoSheva in June for the Dauphine and Suisse (from where he hopes to be able to report from the roadside).
EvanIsTheBest hopes to be available for the Tour. Geraint comes back and this time gets some WT action in a three week stint before the Vuelta. The Spanish GT will be covered by shalgo, with The Hitch stepping in for the World Champs and Giro di Lombardia. The final updates will be done by Hugo, skidmark and perhaps myself with Hugo to crown the 2014 Champion.
As may have been anticipated not many points scored this week and indeed no rider selected more the 7 times in the game scored over 10 points this week. Kazisuta makes a move into the top 10 with a combined 53 points from Finetto (48) and R. Feillu (5). ironsscally also with Finetto, this time paired with 5 points from Bongiorno and 6 from Polanc to be this week's top scorer and in doing so moves off the bottom of the table.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. ironsscally -59
2. Kazistuta - 53
3. LaFlorecita - 52
4. EvansIsTheBest - 48
4. ray200 - 48
36 points from Degenkolb's first outing is enough to lift Lamme_Frans up 20 places, while the first race of the Italian calendar sees the all italian selection of Zam_Olyas jump 18 spots.
This Week's High Movers
1. Lamme_Frans (+20)
2. Zam_Olyas (+18)
3. ray200 (+17)
4. bicing (+14)
5. Açordas_Team (+10)
5. LightBing (+10)
5. ingsve (+10)
Only movement in the top 10 is Kazistuta coming in, with 18-Valve. (pithy) making way
Top ten overall:
1. (-) wizard_of_oz 1522
2. (-) riaroadtrip 1081
3. (-) just some guy 952
4. (-) Geraint Too Fast 874
5. (-) mutschi 767
6. (+5) Kazistuta 765
7. (-2) Ferminal 760
8. (-1) ItalianGigolo 749
9. (-1) Ruvu75 733
10. (-) lenissart 727
Also worthy of note this week was the Cyclo-Cross World Championships, but the performance of Van der Haar gave little indication of his likely point scoring for his 5 teams, as he looks to do a full(ish) road season for Giant Shimano development team. However there are 36 teams that will be feeling reassured that they have a very special talent on their team.
The spreadsheet at Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nunmqiwn58pgr97/CQ%202014%20update%204.xls)
Post by: Flo on February 03, 2014, 18:42
Post by: just some guy on February 03, 2014, 18:53
So TeamJSG is still behind TeamBYOP?
Unless you are in 1st or 2nd not in this game my man as I am 3rd at this stage :P
Youth Game is different of Course :angry
Post by: Josedin on February 05, 2014, 03:20
Dubai Información: Guardini - Zubeldia
Jayco Herald Sun Tour: Mohoric - Von Hoff - Rohan Dennis
We continue with the poor participation in this beginning of the month
Post by: just some guy on February 05, 2014, 07:04
Gerro and Phinney wins would be nice :D
plus some handy points from other riders would make for a good week, not sure if possible but some points from *za nats would be cool
if the slide is to be pushed back a few weeks , this week needs to be good.
Wonder if Gerro can win P -N ;)
not even sure if he is riding tbh
Post by: just some guy on February 05, 2014, 09:31
Post by: Trudgin on February 05, 2014, 20:53
Post by: just some guy on February 06, 2014, 07:29
I do wonder if he might be the greenedge rider for HST
Post by: just some guy on February 07, 2014, 05:06
Genius 1,2 and 4th on the stage and at the moment 1,2 on gc
nice week for me so far
Post by: Flo on February 07, 2014, 07:42
Whoever decided the hearld sun tour should be uci again
Genius 1,2 and 4th on the stage and at the moment 1,2 on gc
nice week for me so far
:shh
Post by: just some guy on February 08, 2014, 12:17
better hope for a 1,2 GC and stage win in the Hearld Sun Tour then :s
Post by: Flo on February 08, 2014, 14:12
Post by: just some guy on February 08, 2014, 17:18
BOONEN Tom
MARKUS Barry
OFFREDO Yoann
BENNETT Sam
Trofeo Palma
CHAVES Johan Esteban
LöFKVIST Thomas
GERDEMANN Linus
Tour Méd
ROLLAND Pierre
EVANS Cadel
PHINNEY Taylor
DUARTE Fabio Andres
the other challenge Mallorca races start lists still to come
Looks alright on paper
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2014, 08:17
W Clarke also
C Wurf , S Clarke and M Docker well on the way
Hopefully a couple fo points from today and another week away from the slide, maybe a Jump ?
Post by: Flo on February 09, 2014, 08:54
But I don't care, I will go for best team without Gerrans, I really don't like him so didn't include him, same for JVDB.
Post by: 18-Valve on February 09, 2014, 11:13
Hmmm I think no chance for people without Gerrans.
I doubt that very much. Let's see how his form evolves from this point on. He's not exactly a Sagan or a Purito.
Post by: Flo on February 09, 2014, 11:39
I doubt that very much. Let's see how his form evolves from this point on. He's not exactly a Sagan or a Purito.
Hmmmm perhaps you're right. I hope so, at least.
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2014, 11:55
I doubt that very much. Let's see how his form evolves from this point on. He's not exactly a Sagan or a Purito.
No but MSR Amstel L-B-L should be good point scores even P-N if he rides and then there is Worlds
Post by: Arb on February 09, 2014, 12:13
Post by: Flo on February 09, 2014, 16:01
Post by: froome19 on February 09, 2014, 17:27
Post by: Flo on February 09, 2014, 17:52
Actually quite relieved, things could have turned out much worse with Gerrans this week as he had the form to win the overall and events turned against him. Anyways points for Coppell and Phinney make this week not all that bad, but Mallorca is where the free points are, and so far I haven't been able to capitalise.
Mallorca is pretty much a stage race with 80 point stages and no GC :P
Post by: oliveira on February 09, 2014, 19:17
13th Tour of Qatar
BOONEN Tom
FENN Andrew
GUARDINI Andrea
KEUKELEIRE Jens
BATTAGLIN Enrico
Trofeo Palma de Mallorca
QUINTANA Dayer
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
KENNAUGH Peter
SWIFT Ben
URAN Rigoberto
CHAVES Johan Esteban
NUYENS Nick
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
GERDEMANN Linus
Tour Méditerranéen Cycliste Professionnel
PATERSKI Maciej
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BELLETTI Manuel
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
KREDER Michel
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2014, 19:18
Post by: oliveira on February 09, 2014, 19:28
CQ wise, Enrico should win MSR 2014 to prove Cassani's right!
Post by: mc_mountain on February 09, 2014, 23:05
The wizard of oz again, but perhaps for the last time, takes full advantage of his all Australian team. Gaining points for riders even less common in the game than Gerrans, ensures he pads his lead even further. Rare gems such as Simon Clarke (139 points this week, on 10 teams), Wurf (90 pts, unique), and Haas (82 pts, 4 teams), making the difference. Gerrans' (43) start to the season perhaps hampered by the cancellation of the queen stage of the Herald Sun Tour, but he sits at 1 point in profit before he even sets foot in Europe.
Also waiting for his first chance to score points in an European race, is Taylor Phinney (153 pts, 56 teams), winning the inaugural Tour of Dubai, with fine display in the ITT and with enough hints in the following stages to suggest he can score points in more than just the races against the clock, will he be able to defend/improve upon the points haul of last spring (3rd GC in Qatar, 9th in MSR)? Another popular choice Coppel (90 pts, 56 teams), took full advantage of a race that could have been designed for him, but does being eclipsed by young Ludvigsson (130 pts, 2 teams) suggest he will find points harder to come as the season progresses?
As well as Wurf there were other unique riders scoring well this week Cummings (90 points - Manafana), Haig - (71 points - Geraint Too Fast), as well as some other rarer picks as already mentioned Ludviggson and Haas, there are also Kittel (105 pts, 2 teams), Degenkolb (91 pts, 6 teams), Modolo (80 pts, 5 teams). Young riders too are well represented in the top points scorers of the week, Meintjes (75 pts, 2 teams), Hansen (71 pts, 13 teams) and Haig (71 pts, unique).
Shalgo puts together points from Phinney, S Clarke, Coppel and Taarame for second behind the wizard, *Falze* (Phinney, Coppel and Hansen), just some guy (Phinney, Clarke x2 and Gerrans) and WonderLance (Phinney, Ludviggson and Hansen) make up the top 5 scorers this week
This Week's Top Scorers
1. wizard_of_oz 520
2. shalgo 450
3. *Falze* 393
4. just some guy 392
5. WonderLance 381
Those points are enough for shalgo to jump 70 places to 33rd
This Week's High Movers
1. shalgo (+70)
2. Manafana (+65)
3. sublimit (+59)
3. Tuarts (+59)
5. bicing (+52)
In the top 10 just some guy, moves over riaroadtrip into 2nd, lenissart moves up 5 to 5th, WonderLance and greenedge also make their way back in to the top 10, with Ferminal and Ruvu75 making way.
Top ten overall:
1. (-) wizard_of_oz 2042
2. (+1) just some guy 1344
3. (-1) riaroadtrip 1259
4. (-) Geraint Too Fast 1113
5. (+5) lenissart 1063
6. (-1) mutschi 1060
7. (+9) WonderLance 1039
7. (+1) ItalianGigolo 1039
9. (-3) Kazistuta 980
10. (+4) greenedge 974
The Spreadsheet at Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3ipj0vvwavz2m9/CQ%202014%20update%205.xls)
Post by: mc_mountain on February 10, 2014, 00:37
Post by: Josedin on February 10, 2014, 01:01
Boonem
Van Keirsbulck
Stuyven
Bos
Guardini
Villella
Turgot
TROFEO PALMA DE MALLORCA
Gerdemann
Sutterlin
Ben Swift
Kwiatkowski
De Gendt
Chaves
Lofkvist
Mas Bonet
De la Cruz
Konig
Post by: just some guy on February 10, 2014, 04:54
Post by: just some guy on February 10, 2014, 13:25
hear those foot steps ?
we coming at you now ;)
Post by: Flo on February 10, 2014, 13:27
Post by: mc_mountain on February 10, 2014, 13:33
sh*t when did I drop Wurf :fp
Probably when I made a convincing case for dropping him in favour Ewan for the Velorooms team.
My man Andrew Talanksy took a tumble in Mallorca!
Post by: just some guy on February 10, 2014, 13:34
Probably when I made a convincing case for dropping him in favour Ewan for the Velorooms team.
Nope Ewan was in early I think Sam Bennett so should be ok I hope
aye saw the BullDog went down , looked saw in that photo
Post by: mc_mountain on February 10, 2014, 13:37
Nope Ewan was in early I think Sam Bennett so should be ok I hope
aye saw the BullDog went down , looked saw in that photo
was talking about when you decided to take him out rather than who the replacement was, but that's by the by anyway.
OPQS now ripping it up in Mallorca too!
Post by: cj2002 on February 10, 2014, 13:41
Excuse me while I go and have a little cry...
EDIT: I wrote that before the result of Qatar was known. I'm crying a little less now...
Post by: mc_mountain on February 10, 2014, 15:20
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_aGZhjG33nWk46IGEDzM2RjPP9Hl3xSgWuQZe7F6_AnBZoPjN)
hear those foot steps ?
we coming at you now ;)
he raises you 28 points from Matthews...
Post by: just some guy on February 10, 2014, 15:37
he raises you 28 points from Matthews...
FFS :lol
Post by: LukasCPH on February 10, 2014, 22:37
Post by: just some guy on February 11, 2014, 15:40
Post by: Flo on February 11, 2014, 15:41
in 3 years of this game I have never scored any real points in Mallorca, looking the same again
Last year some points for Farrar but that's it
Post by: just some guy on February 11, 2014, 15:44
so at least 20 from today for the lulu teams
Post by: mc_mountain on February 11, 2014, 15:46
in 3 years of this game I have never scored any real points in Mallorca, looking the same again2012 I had Fenn who won two of them, last year Howard who won two of them... not so good this year, although EBH for the win tomorrow would be nice.
Seems Uran has no form yet despite OPQS dominating the race.
Post by: Flo on February 11, 2014, 15:47
Post by: Flo on February 11, 2014, 15:48
Seems Uran has no form yet despite OPQS dominating the race.
Yep kinda disappointed
Post by: just some guy on February 11, 2014, 15:49
2012 I had Fenn who won two of them, last year Howard who won two of them... not so good this year, although EBH for the win tomorrow would be nice.
Seems Uran has no form yet despite OPQS dominating the race.
seems a great little early season points grab if it works for your team.
These are good times when a lot of points mean high jumps etc
Uran will be interesting this year
Post by: KeithJamesMc on February 11, 2014, 15:58
2012 I had Fenn who won two of them, last year Howard who won two of them... not so good this year, although EBH for the win tomorrow would be nice.Uran finished 14th with same times time as 2nd - so just didn't compete in the sprint for places.
Seems Uran has no form yet despite OPQS dominating the race.
Post by: Flo on February 11, 2014, 16:00
you have lulu right ?
so at least 20 from today for the lulu teams
Nice also 8 for Yates and 7 for Uran, 35 in Mallorca and 25 in Qatar, good day. :)
I'm not complaining :-x
Post by: just some guy on February 11, 2014, 16:33
Nice also 8 for Yates and 7 for Uran, 35 in Mallorca and 25 in Qatar, good day. :)
I'm not complaining :-x
5 Points for me in *es
:carrot
Post by: al_pacino on February 11, 2014, 16:40
Post by: KeithJamesMc on February 11, 2014, 17:18
He needs to get his finger out, it will be tragic if JSG&Phinney score more points
Post by: oliveira on February 11, 2014, 18:49
EBH, Uran and Yates give me a few but not quite the heady days of Andy Fenn.
Fenn still in 10th at GC though. As it is an HC race, he still can get something around 40 points tomorrow.
Post by: just some guy on February 12, 2014, 12:51
Post by: Flo on February 12, 2014, 13:01
Post by: KeithJamesMc on February 12, 2014, 14:19
I hope this continues (especially with lead outs from EBH)
Tom Boonen also looking good brings a smile to my face, but I guess that everyone has him :-(
Post by: just some guy on February 12, 2014, 14:30
Post by: Flo on February 13, 2014, 06:45
ROSA Diego
ZORDAN Andrea
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Not a whole lot. Lulu should get nice points.
Post by: just some guy on February 13, 2014, 08:18
Tour Méditerranéen Cycliste Professionel (2.1)
ROSA Diego
ZORDAN Andrea
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Not a whole lot. Lulu should get nice points.
When I did the race thread I had Gotland, Evans, Phinney and Rolland
I though should be a nice race for team JSG
now I have Phinney and Rolland hmmm could go ok, but it might be slide time :(
Everyone has TB but the rest of the team has not really scored much this week
Post by: KeithJamesMc on February 13, 2014, 08:35
Post by: just some guy on February 13, 2014, 08:39
I don't think I'll get a lot of points at Tour Med with just Boy Van Poppel and Warren Barguil ;-(
Barguil and Pinot 2 riders I want to have great years in 2014 but cqwise want them to suck soI can have them next year.
CQ does strange things to you sometimes.
Like hoping Andy wins ;)
Post by: LukasCPH on February 13, 2014, 08:49
Betancur
Luisle Sanchez
Hoogerland
Rosa
Duarte
A healthy mix, and all of them are decent enough uphill. I'm quietly hopeful.
Post by: just some guy on February 13, 2014, 08:58
Post by: mc_mountain on February 13, 2014, 10:18
When I did the race thread I had Gotland, Evans, Phinney and Rolland
I though should be a nice race for team JSG
now I have Phinney and Rolland hmmm could go ok, but it might be slide time :(
Everyone has TB but the rest of the team has not really scored much this week
I project you will probably drop one place to Geraint Too Fast (he has Kwiatkowski, EBH, Swift), maybe a couple more spots if LLS does well at Tour Med - but still looking pretty solid there JSG.
Post by: just some guy on February 13, 2014, 10:21
I project you will probably drop one place to Geraint Too Fast (he has Kwiatkowski, EBH, Swift), maybe a couple more spots if LLS does well at Tour Med - but still looking pretty solid there JSG.
aye very happy so far and still looking good for the spring, Giro
After not so sure tbh
Post by: Arb on February 15, 2014, 01:36
Post by: Leadbelly on February 15, 2014, 09:59
Better than 0,0,0,0,0,0 I guess. :P
Post by: Flo on February 15, 2014, 10:07
HEPBURN Michael
BOARO Manuele
MOSER Moreno
BOONEN Tom
STYBAR Zdenek
URAN Rigoberto
Hmmm maybe some GC points for Uran
Volta ao Algarve/the return of The Great One (2.1)
CONTADOR Alberto
And that is it gotta love it :win
2.1 so not many points available :( I hope 60 points for Berto
Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol (2.1)
WELLENS Tim
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
KENNAUGH Peter
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
GERDEMANN Linus
Could be good could be nothing hmmm
Not looking too good for me, I hope 150 combined but could be much less :(
Post by: just some guy on February 16, 2014, 07:58
hopefully Rolland wins today
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 07:52
Post by: Flo on February 17, 2014, 08:21
Very disappointing week with the riders other than Boonen
Same for me
Lulu only 3 points in Tour Med WTF.
Seems Lulu is now more of a sprinter than climber or TTer :S
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 08:24
Same for me
Lulu only 3 points in Tour Med WTF.
Seems Lulu is now more of a sprinter than climber or TTer :S
and still not a must have which is nice for some :-x
Post by: Flo on February 17, 2014, 08:26
and still not a must have which is nice for some :-x
Plenty of races still, it is only February ;)
At this point I am worried about.......... uhmmm uhmmm 28 of my riders or so :D
Post by: Flo on February 17, 2014, 08:27
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 08:32
Apparently Chaves is riding Langkawi, free points if he doesn't crash, but over 80 people have him :P
yep and Duarte , KRUIJSWIJK Steven, AUGUSTYN John Lee and Drapac and maybe Patrick Lane can get some points for my youth
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 09:37
Tour of Oman
KöNIG Leopold
BENNETT Sam
LöFKVIST Thomas
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
MOSER Moreno
BOONEN Tom
MARKUS Barry
SCHLECK Andy
Volta ao Algarve
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
OFFREDO Yoann
Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
GERDEMANN Linus
Plus Oceania
Tour Cycliste International du Haut Var-matin
OFFREDO Yoann
EVANS Cadel
ROLLAND Pierre
think that´s it
Post by: 18-Valve on February 17, 2014, 11:01
Apparently Chaves is riding Langkawi, free points if he doesn't crash, but over 80 people have him :P
Not sure if he has the legs TBH. I haven't read anything about him in a long while, but until I do I don't expect anything at all, until he posts a decent result somewhere.
Post by: oliveira on February 17, 2014, 18:24
Next week we'll have:
5th Tour of Oman (2.HC)
SWIFT Ben
SCHLECK Andy
MOSER Moreno
BOONEN Tom
URAN Rigoberto
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
KEUKELEIRE Jens
BATTAGLIN Enrico
40th Volta ao Algarve (2.1)
CONTADOR Alberto
60th Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol (2.1)
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
KENNAUGH Peter
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
PATERSKI Maciej
GERDEMANN Linus
51st Trofeo Laigueglia (1.1)
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BELLETTI Manuel
FEILLU Romain
46th Tour Cycliste International du Haut Var-matin (2.1)
QUINTANA Dayer
DOMBROWSKI Joe
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
KREDER Michel
?? PATERSKI Maciej
?? HOOGERLAND Johnny
?? BELLETTI Manuel
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 18:48
team JSG this week
Tour of Oman
KöNIG Leopold
BENNETT Sam
LöFKVIST Thomas
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
MOSER Moreno
BOONEN Tom
MARKUS Barry
SCHLECK Andy
Volta ao Algarve
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
OFFREDO Yoann
Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
GERDEMANN Linus
Plus Oceania
Tour Cycliste International du Haut Var-matin
OFFREDO Yoann
EVANS Cadel
ROLLAND Pierre
think that´s it
Nope
Trofeo Laigueglia
BASSO Ivan
DUARTE Fabio Andres
Post by: mc_mountain on February 17, 2014, 19:15
Biggest points scoring of the week in the game go to the most popular rider Tom Boonen (175pts, 138 teams) and a rider on only one team Stephen Cummings (139 pts - unique to Manafana - total for the week 388). Although his team is performing well, moving into 2nd place, unfortunately Geraint Too Fast has lost his internet with a fallen tree knocking his connection offline, so its another update from me. He moves up two spots and is the 6th best team this week, from Mallorca he scored points with Kwiatkowski, Swift and EBH, and points from Boonen and a few minor points. Intriguingly Lachlan Norris losses him 2 points, with a rearrangement of the GC from the Herald Sun Tour, of riders on the same time.
The week's best score came from PeterB - Boonen, Modolo, Peraud, Swift and EBH, plus Vakoc and a few minor points giving a total of 644, and lifts him 87th places to equal 33rd. In both the top 5 scores and movers are josedin, rywann and Skibby the bush kangeroo. Although not in both Pentacycle makes the top scores combining points from among others Roelandts (108pts, 2 teams) and Sepulveda (66pts - unique), for 3rd best this week.
Other unique riders scoring well this week are Greipel (84pts josedin), Sieberg (68pts badbrainaj) and Degand (45pts, olafjt).
This Week's Top Scorers
1. PeterB 644
2. Josedin 550
3. Pentacycle 544
4. Skibby the bush kangaroo 515
5. rywann 509
This Week's High Movers
1. PeterB (+87)
2. Josedin (+65)
3. rywann (+50)
4. Oliveira (+44)
5. Skibby the bush kangaroo (+36)
Popchu goes into the top 10 at the expense of greenedge by a single point.
Top ten overall:
1. (-) wizard_of_oz 2099
2. (+2) Geraint Too Fast 1606
3. (-1) just some guy 1562
4. (+1) lenissart 1500
5. (-2) riaroadtrip 1469
6. (+1) ItalianGigolo 1369
7. (-) WonderLance 1330
8. (-2) mutschi 1304
9. (-) Kazistuta 1284
10. (+2) Popchu 1242
The Spreadsheet at Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/97v6x0gbwkuicwt/CQ%202014%20update%206.xls)
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 19:54
Minus 1 this week next looking solid hope I can at least have 1 week on top since I have had such a start .
Post by: mc_mountain on February 17, 2014, 20:04
Quote from: Pentacycle from CN
Wizard_of_oz 150th out of 150 this week, and still comfortably leading :eek:
I really should have spotted that, definitely worthy of mention in the update!
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 20:07
I really should have spotted that, definitely worthy of mention in the update!
Oceania champs might be another big grab for OZ could be I guess we all hope not ;)
Post by: mc_mountain on February 17, 2014, 20:10
Oceania champs might be another big grab for OZ could be I guess we all hope not ;)
Well its only 40 points for the win in the RR and 20 in the ITT, so it shouldnt be too dramatic, grabwise.
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2014, 20:11
Well its only 40 points for the win in the RR and 20 in the ITT, so it shouldnt be too dramatic, grabwise.
I should have looked I thought they were 100´s good good
Post by: KeithJamesMc on February 18, 2014, 17:11
Post by: cj2002 on February 18, 2014, 17:27
The comeback is starting, people! :lol
But now I don't know whether to support Kwiat or Rui in the Algarve :S
Post by: Flo on February 19, 2014, 11:12
Post by: just some guy on February 21, 2014, 07:53
Nice 12 from W Clarke today reduces the ground a little
Post by: just some guy on February 21, 2014, 15:48
Geraint too fast should be the 1st team other that OZ to be leader after this week.
things about to get ugly I feel for Team JSG :(
Post by: Flo on February 21, 2014, 15:50
Post by: mc_mountain on February 21, 2014, 16:17
My team taking hits will need things to fall in my favour to stay in the top 10 soon is think
Geraint too fast should be the 1st team other that OZ to be leader after this week.
things about to get ugly I feel for Team JSG :(
Well Oz has some points coming from Howard and Porte will get 80 from GC, so GTF will have to clear 500 points to take over in first. He'll pull in plenty from Kwiatkowski and LLS, but he'll need some points from JVDB and maybe Moser in Oman to take the lead.
Post by: Flo on February 21, 2014, 16:27
Post by: just some guy on February 21, 2014, 16:32
Well Oz has some points coming from Howard and Porte will get 80 from GC, so GTF will have to clear 500 points to take over in first. He'll pull in plenty from Kwiatkowski and LLS, but he'll need some points from JVDB and maybe Moser in Oman to take the lead.
just had a look I have 3 GC types on 18 sec in Oman so might pull something for the week, Evans hopefully plus Oceania, might scape something.
GTF should 500 but yep OZ might hold on for another week
Post by: Flo on February 21, 2014, 17:08
Seems a solid week for me, 28 for Villella and 20 for Marcato, and Uran, Lulu and Berto looking good :cool don't jinx it :-x
+ 16 for Rabottini :) 52 points now, 27% after 2 race days :P
Post by: Flo on February 22, 2014, 09:50
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
CRADDOCK Lawson
AMADOR Andrey
SÜTTERLIN Jasha
Not expecting many points :-x
Post by: just some guy on February 23, 2014, 05:24
Post by: Flo on February 23, 2014, 16:57
125 for Uran
108 for Contador
76 for Lulu
28 for Villella
25 for Amador
20 for Marcato
13 for Boonen
5 for Stybar
5 for Moser
3 for Reinardt
Not bad not great either
Post by: search on February 23, 2014, 16:59
My time near the top has been fun ------ it is done now
there's another chance next week, come on JSG, you just have to go all in for Lugano and Omloop in the classics game ;)
Post by: just some guy on February 23, 2014, 19:58
there's another chance next week, come on JSG, you just have to go all in for Lugano and Omloop in the classics game ;)
he he
been a fun month or 2
My team should be around the mark until after the Giro I think
Post by: froome19 on February 23, 2014, 20:40
He went to the Oceania Championships to pick up 60 freebies, but then punctured in the ITT with 3km to go wiping out 17 of those points. Oh well, 43 points for just turning up is better than nothing I guess
;)
Post by: Trudgin on February 24, 2014, 10:32
Will there be an update due this week before this weekend kicks off again?
I must have improved this week.... i must have... :(
Post by: just some guy on February 24, 2014, 10:39
Will there be an update due this week before this weekend kicks off again?
I must have improved this week.... i must have... :(
every week when CQ ranking update
Post by: Flo on February 24, 2014, 21:25
Firstly, thanks to mc_mountain for standing in for me last week. I'm now ready for my first (hopefully mistake free) update.
Update #7: Another good week for rywann
With four different stage races taking place last week there were plenty of points up for grabs, and with popular riders such as Rigoberto Uran, Luis Leon Sanchez and Alberto Contador performing well, it was a good week for many teams.
Top of the pile this week is the 5th best team from last week, rywann. He collected points from Contador, Uran and Sanchez, but it was the less popular Michal Kwiatkowski who was the main contributor to his 553 points. Second placed GP Blanco also has the Contador/Uran/Sanchez combo with Betancur adding the extra flavour, and whilst 520 points wasn't quite enough for top spot, it is good enough for the consolation prize of this weeks highest mover.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. rywann 553
2. GP Blanco 520
3. Fus87 499
4. freshman 496
5. del1962 489
This Week's High Movers
1. GP Blanco (+66)
2. Fus87 (+60)
3. Milanello (+60)
4. ironted (+59)
5. Martin (+46)
5. LaFlorecita (+46)
A decent amount of points from Porte, Evans, Durbridge & Howard means that wizard_of_oz still has a very healthy overall lead.
Top 10 Overall
1. (-) wizard_of_oz 2333
2. (-) Geraint Too Fast 1920
3. (-) just some guy 1713
4. (+4) mutschi 1706
5. (-) riaroadtrip 1697
6. (-2) lenissart 1669
7. (+5) Ruvu75 1614
8. (-1) WonderLance 1548
9. (+1) Popchu 1520
10. (-4) ItalianGigolo 1517
I'm struggling with bandwidth issues at the moment, so this weeks spreadsheet is brought to you via the always helpful mc_mountain -
The Spreadsheet at Dropbox (http://www.dropbox.com/s/q0f86yp6n2gh883/CQ%202014%20update%207.xls)
Edit: with working link :shh
Post by: Flo on February 24, 2014, 21:27
Down 18 places, that makes 71 in 2 weeks :D now I gotta hope Berto scores well
+46 now :wave
Jsg still 3rd :P
Post by: froome19 on February 24, 2014, 21:29
This one should work better :angel
http://www.dropbox.com/s/q0f86yp6n2gh883/CQ%202014%20update%207.xls
Post by: Flo on February 24, 2014, 21:33
I believe the link isn't working..
This one should work better :angel
http://www.dropbox.com/s/q0f86yp6n2gh883/CQ%202014%20update%207.xls
:shh I did that on purpose
Post by: oliveira on February 24, 2014, 23:59
Belletti and Paterski are such skilled riders, they will be in several events in the same day. No wonder they're not grabbing big points by now. :angry Anyway, shoul be something like this:
19th Le Tour de Langkawi (2.HC)
GUARDINI Andrea
CHAVES Johan Esteban
14th Classic Sud Ardèche (1.1)
FEILLU Romain
HOOGERLAND Johnny
KREDER Michel
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
69th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad Elite (1.HC)
NUYENS Nick
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
BELLETTI Manuel
BOONEN Tom
34th Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia (1.1)
PATERSKI Maciej
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
2nd La Drôme Classic (1.1)
HOOGERLAND Johnny
FEILLU Romain
KREDER Michel
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
67th Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne (1.1)
BOONEN Tom
FENN Andrew
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
NUYENS Nick
BELLETTI Manuel
68th G.P. Città di Lugano (1.1)
BATTAGLIN Enrico
GERDEMANN Linus
29th Clasica de Almeria (1.HC)
PATERSKI Maciej
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Post by: just some guy on February 25, 2014, 10:49
see how we go this week a lot of weekend racing
Duarte not going to asia not great though
Post by: Flo on February 25, 2014, 11:43
CHAVES Jhoan Esteban
Omloop Het Nieuwsblad (1.HC)
STYBAR Zdenek
BOONEN Tom
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
ZORDAN Andrea
Classic Sud Ardèche (1.1)
CRADDOCK Lawson
STUYVEN Jasper
ROSA Diego
Vuelta a Murcia (1.1)
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Clasica de Almeria (1.HC)
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
GP Città di Lugano (1.1)
MOHORIC Matej
VILLELLA Davide
YATES Simon
RABOTTINI Matteo
GERDEMANN Linus
Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne (1.1)
BOONEN Tom
STYBAR Zdenek
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
ZORDAN Andrea
La Drôme Classic (1.1)
STUYVEN Jasper
ROSA Diego
Post by: search on February 25, 2014, 12:27
- Tour de Langkawi
- BOS Theo
- CHAVES Johan Esteban
- Classic Sud Ardèche
- HOOGERLAND Johnny
- MADRAZO Ángel
- DI GRéGORIO Rémy
- Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
- VANDENBERGH Stijn
- BOONEN Tom
- PHINNEY Taylor
- THURAU Björn
- BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
- BELLETTI Manuel
- La Drôme Classic
- HOOGERLAND Johnny
- MADRAZO Ángel
- DI GRéGORIO Rémy
- Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne
- BOONEN Tom
- VANDENBERGH Stijn
- BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
- THURAU Björn
- BELLETTI Manuel
- G.P. Città di Lugano
- CUNEGO Damiano
- BATTAGLIN Enrico
- BISOLTI Alessandro
- GERDEMANN Linus
Duarte might do Lugano now I think, but we will see
Post by: Trudgin on February 27, 2014, 12:09
So........... does anyone object (is it against an unwritten rule) to post my riders for all competitions by race in the one place, ie: here. Just to show who I have in each race?
whats your thoughts :slow
Post by: just some guy on February 27, 2014, 13:28
My riders are all mixed up and as I'm doing this in work :angry to separate them again im going to get shot...... :boom
So........... does anyone object (is it against an unwritten rule) to post my riders for all competitions by race in the one place, ie: here. Just to show who I have in each race?
whats your thoughts :slow
I am sure that will be fine
Post by: Trudgin on February 27, 2014, 14:32
for the week - and a wee bit more. Not all of the races have a full startlist yet sothis is what I can see at the moment on pro cycling stts
Langkawi
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
Paris - Nice
BARGUIL Warren
BOONEN Tom
ISAYCHEV Vladimir :evil:
MOHORIC Matej
RAST Gregory
VILLELLA Davide
Tirreno - Adriatico
BENNATI Daniele <3
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto <3 <3
GATTO Oscar
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MOSER Moreno :playlist
RATTO Daniele
SAGAN Peter :dizzy :Heart:
URAN URAN Rigoberto
Milan - Sanremo
AGNOLI Valerio <3
BENNATI Daniele <3
BOONEN Tom
MODOLO Sacha
MOSER Moreno :playlist
SAGAN Peter :dizzy <3
Omloop
BOONEN Tom
DILLIER Silvan
ENGOULVENT Jimmy
ISAYCHEV Vladimir :evil:
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
PAILLOT Yoann
PAOLINI Luca :dizzy <3
QUINZIATO Manuel :Sweating:
Murcia
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
TXOPERENA MATXIKOTE Beñat
Ardeche
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel <3 <3 <3
Kuurne
BOONEN Tom
DILLIER Silvan
ENGOULVENT Jimmy
ISAYCHEV Vladimir :evil:
KOWALSKI Rudy
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
PAOLINI Luca :dizzy <3
QUINZIATO Manuel :Sweating:
VELITS Martin
ZABEL Rick
Lugano
FORMOLO Davide
GOUGEARD Alexis
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
MOHORIC Matej :Rainbow:
RATTO Daniele
VILLELLA Davide
Camaio
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
SAGAN Peter :dizzy <3
Strada Bianche
BARGUIL Warren
BENNATI Daniele
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MOSER Moreno :playlist
SAGAN Peter :dizzy <3
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel <3 <3 <3
URAN URAN Rigoberto
Roma Maxima
BARGUIL Warren
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel <3 <3 <3
I'll update as we go along... good luck folks but I'm having some bloody points this month...
PS you can tell by the amount of love in my teams that i pick with my heart... and a wee bit of logic... dont be trying to work out my classics picks - thats just cheating.... ;)
Post by: Flo on March 01, 2014, 16:05
Post by: froome19 on March 01, 2014, 21:28
Stannard's win could spell the start of something big, but I don't really believe that is necessarily true. After all Stannard was in superb form for much of last year's early season and was one of/if not the strongest in MSR. But when push came to shove in PR and Flanders he faultered, so the jury is still out on him. Omloop is anyways too early in the season to do more than hint and suggestions for later on. Anyways maybe my sceptism is solely because I don't have him.
What is heartening is EBH's performance. I know he has it in him to excel on the cobbles, just the form hasn't been there. If he can time his peak right.. fingers crossed. Then he could turn out to be the do or die pick of this year. Or maybe my optimism is solely because I Do have him.
Post by: Flo on March 02, 2014, 07:55
Post by: Arb on March 02, 2014, 08:55
*May or may not be throwing the toys out due to yesterday's results being a nightmare for me.
Post by: just some guy on March 02, 2014, 09:24
Post by: froome19 on March 02, 2014, 12:30
Post by: Flo on March 02, 2014, 12:31
Remi into profit. He could prove to be a very, very good pick at this rate.
Yep :angry
Post by: Leadbelly on March 02, 2014, 13:23
Remy into profit. He could prove to be a very, very good pick at this rate.
More importantly it also means that if the VR collective wisdom team bombs, I can't be blamed. :D
Post by: mc_mountain on March 02, 2014, 13:41
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2014, 04:59
see how GTF goes and the folks below.
OZ will have had a bad week.
plus Chaves sits 4th GC and Steven 7th in langkowi after Genting so that will be an ok race for me as well.
Hope Phinney is ok got some stitches
Post by: froome19 on March 03, 2014, 20:53
Quote
FROM GTF:Update #8: Who needs Boonen?
As the classics season got under way it was probably expected that the 16 teams without Tom Boonen would struggle this week... but try telling that to Londonpat. Ian Stannard, Sep Vanmarcke, Taylor Phinney and Sebastian Langeveld's exploits in Belgium along with Ruben Fernandez and Sam Bennett's in Spain all contributed to a good score, but Londonpat must be equally grateful for the 5 points gained by Esteban Chaves and Heiner Parra in Malaysia and France respectively as he just edges out Mellow Velo for the weekly honours.
And whilst one Boonen-less team was flying, another was crashing. A 12th place from Heinrich Haussler in Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne gave wizard_of_oz his only points of the week, so for the second time this year our leader is also the weeks lowest scorer.
We have joint high movers this week with ingsve and King Of The Worlds both moving up 43 places, and the two are virtually inseparable in the overall table as well - 60th and 61st place respectively - with just 5 points between them.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Londonpat 420
2. Mellow Velo 419
3. ingsve 395
4. King Of The Worlds 392
5. olafjt 374
This Week's High Movers
1. King Of The Worlds (+43)
1. ingsve (+43)
3. Mellow Velo (+38)
4. Eyeballs Out (+30)
5. trotters aotearoa (+27)
The best scoring team of the month goes to *Falze*, and Mellow Velo claims top spot in the high movers chart to complete a great update for himself.
This Month's Top Scorers
1. *Falze* 1422
2. rywann 1377
3. Pentacycle 1325
4. shalgo 1286
5. Mellow Velo 1282
This Month's High Movers
1. Mellow Velo (+78)
2. Leadbelly (+75)
3. search (+71)
4. shalgo (+70)
5. cj2002 (+64)
5. ingsve (+64)
A no-show by the Aussies this week, coupled with a good scores from just some guy, lenissart & Ruvu75 means the overall ranking is looking a bit closer than it was last week. How much longer can the wizard hang on?
Top 10 Overall[/u]
1. (-) wizard_of_oz 2342
2. (-) Geraint Too Fast 2149
3. (-) just some guy 2036
4. (+2) lenissart 1992
5. (+2) Ruvu75 1902
6. (-2) mutschi 1864
7. (+3) ItalianGigolo 1842
8. (-3) riaroadtrip 1836
9. (+2) knallertjeblaf 1804
10. (+6) Kazistuta 1773
Spreadsheet at dropbox (http://www.dropbox.com/s/03oq74p1lf6ktmp/CQ%202014%20update%208.xls)
Post by: Flo on March 03, 2014, 20:56
Post by: Flo on March 03, 2014, 20:57
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 03, 2014, 21:02
Post by: just some guy on March 04, 2014, 04:50
who will be 1st leader after oz.
seems I am in the hunt :rasmussen
Post by: cj2002 on March 04, 2014, 09:58
sh*t just got real :D
who will be 1st leader after oz.
seems I am in the hunt :rasmussen
I'm up 64 places this month :o
I told you - the comeback is starting!
Post by: oliveira on March 04, 2014, 15:50
46th Le Samyn
FEILLU Romain
PATERSKI, Maciej
FENN Andrew
65th G.P. Camaiore
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ANACONA Winner
KEUKELEIRE Jens
DOMBROWSKI Joe
SWIFT Ben
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BELLETTI Manuel
BATTAGLIN Enrico
GERDEMANN Linus
KREDER Michel
Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen
FENN Andrew
KREDER Michel
8th Strade Bianche
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MOSER Moreno
ANACONA Winner
URAN Rigoberto
HOOGERLAND Johnny
GERDEMANN Linus
BELLETTI Manuel
Post by: Flo on March 04, 2014, 17:47
Le Samyn (1.1)
STUYVEN Jasper
hmmmmmm ;)
GP Camaiore (1.1)
MARCATO Marco
VILLELLA Davide
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ANACONA Winner
AMADOR Andrey
SüTTERLIN Jasha
YATES Simon
DOMBROWSKI Joe
ROSA Diego
RABOTTINI Matteo
GERDEMANN Linus
points pls :P
Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen (2.1)
STUYVEN Jasper
CRADDOCK Lawson
:D :D :D :D :D
Strade Bianche (1.1)
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MOSER Moreno
ANACONA Winner
AMADOR Andrey
SüTTERLIN Jasha
URAN Rigoberto
GERDEMANN Linus
No full startlist yet, hopefully some more guys
Paris-Nice (2.WT)
MARCATO Marco
VILLELLA Davide
WELLENS Tim
BOONEN Tom
STYBAR Zdenek
YATES Simon
GOSS Matthew
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
SCHLECK Andy
Hoping for good points from Reinardt and Styby, apparently Styby is going for GC, fingers crossed
Goss to score me 2 points in the sprints :D :D
Would have preferred to see Villella in Tirreno
Roma Maxima (1.1)
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ANACONA Winner
SüTTERLIN Jasha
DOMBROWSKI Joe
GERDEMANN Linus
No full startlist either grrr
Tirreno-Adriatico (2.WT)
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ATAPUMA John Darwin
MOSER Moreno
AMADOR Andrey
URAN Rigoberto
HEPBURN Michael
CONTADOR Alberto <3
Nice 260 points for Berto :) :) hopefully also some nice GC points from el Puma and Uran
Post by: search on March 04, 2014, 23:14
- Vuelta Mexico
- BRENES OBANDO Gregory Juel
- Trofej Umag - Umag Trophy
- BISOLTI Alessandro
- Le Samyn
- DE GENDT Thomas
- 65th G.P. Camaiore
- KISERLOVSKI Robert
- KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
- CUNEGO Damiano
- AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey
- HOOGERLAND Johnny
- BELLETTI Manuel
- BATTAGLIN Enrico
- DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
- COLLI Daniele
- GERDEMANN Linus
- Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen
- DE GENDT Thomas
- 8th Strade Bianche
- KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
- MOSER Moreno
- AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey
- HOOGERLAND Johnny
- DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
- LöFKVIST Thomas
- GERDEMANN Linus
- Roma Maxima
- KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
- HOOGERLAND Johnny
- BATTAGLIN Enrico
- DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
- GERDEMANN Linus
- Porec Trophy - Trofej Porec
- BISOLTI Alessandro
Post by: just some guy on March 05, 2014, 05:47
Le Tour de Langkawi
CHAVES RUBIO Johan Esteban
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
AUGUSTYN John Lee
races
Trofej Umag - Umag Trophy
0
Le Samyn
0
G.P. Camaiore
KISERLOVSKI Robert
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ANACONA Winner
GERRANS Simon
CLARKE Simon
DUARTE Fabio
GERDEMANN Linus
Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen
0
Strade Bianche move to come I guess
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
EVANS Cadel
MOSER Moreno
ANACONA Winner
DUARTE Fabio
LöFKVIST Thomas
GERDEMANN Linus
Roma Maxima more to come
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
BASSO Ivan
ANACONA Winner
GERDEMANN Linus
Tour de Taiwan
Ben Johnson
Paris - Nice bit light on T-A could be very full
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas
GERRANS Simon
SCHLECK Andy
Post by: just some guy on March 05, 2014, 07:08
https://twitter.com/myltdl/status/441107921930166272
Post by: Flo on March 05, 2014, 08:56
Post by: Trudgin on March 05, 2014, 13:21
Catch up with fuller team lists for this week...
I may go apoplectic on Sunday.....all of my lovely boys are out this weekend.... except Berto... and he's out next week...
Its all tooooooo much.. :flustered
Le Samyn 5th
GOUGEARD Alexis
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
Camaiore 6th
AGNOLI Valerio
BETTIOL Alberto
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
RATTO Daniele
VILLELLA Davide
Driedaagse 7th to 9th
DILLIER Silvan
GOUGEARD Alexis
KOWALSKI Rudy
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
VELITS Martin
ZABEL Rick
Strada Bianche 8th
BARGUIL Warren
BENNATI Daniele
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MOSER Moreno
SAGAN Peter
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
Paris - Nice 9th to 16th
BOONEN Tom
CATTANEO Mattia
ENGOULVENT Jimmy
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
RAST Gregory
VILLELLA Davide
Roma Maxima 9th
BARGUIL Warren
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MODOLO Sacha
PAOLINI Luca
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel
Oh when I say all of my boys, some are not in any teams as i couldnt afford them all.... but believe me they are all astride saddles in the coming week...
Excited does not cover it..... I love you eurosport (this week and please do not have carlton)
Post by: Flo on March 06, 2014, 14:32
GP Camaiore (1.1)
MARCATO Marco
VILLELLA Davide
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ANACONA Winner
AMADOR Andrey
SüTTERLIN Jasha
YATES Simon
DOMBROWSKI Joe
ROSA Diego
RABOTTINI Matteo
GERDEMANN Linus
points pls :P
:fp :fp
Post by: Flo on March 06, 2014, 15:43
Not very encouraging that Marcato finishes 7th in a sprint :S but he probably didn't go all out :shh
Post by: Flo on March 07, 2014, 08:10
Right I need some poiints
Strade Bianche (1.1)
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MOSER Moreno
ANACONA Winner
AMADOR Andrey
SüTTERLIN Jasha
URAN Rigoberto
GERDEMANN Linus
No full startlist yet, hopefully some more guys
MOSER Moreno
ROSA Diego
ZORDAN Andrea
ARU Fabio
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ATAPUMA John Darwin
AMADOR Andrey
SÜTTERLIN Jasha
GERDEMANN Linus
URAN Rigoberto
BOARO Manuele
RABOTTINI Matteo
Points :angry :D a lot of climbers though
Post by: Trudgin on March 07, 2014, 09:34
AGNOLI Valerio
BARGUIL Warren
BENNATI Daniele
BETTIOL Alberto
BODNAR Maciej
GATTO Oscar
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MOSER Moreno
PAOLINI Luca
QUINZIATO Manuel
SAGAN Peter
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel
TIRALONGO Paolo
URAN URAN Rigoberto
Post by: Trudgin on March 07, 2014, 09:36
Post by: just some guy on March 08, 2014, 05:51
if Chaves and Steven hold on to their CG spots in Langkowi I should be 69 points above GTF before SB starts.
Not sure if I have been passed or not :shh
also another 146 points caught up on OZ
Post by: just some guy on March 08, 2014, 15:03
Post by: mc_mountain on March 08, 2014, 15:53
with 1st for GTF and only 7th for me I think I am 13 points up still but lesser points will be important
(Gee has Bolivar btw)
Post by: just some guy on March 08, 2014, 17:12
(Gee has Bolivar btw)
my Roma Maxima team is pretty light weight, so close not cigar I think
Post by: Flo on March 08, 2014, 17:17
Post by: search on March 08, 2014, 17:52
Post by: just some guy on March 09, 2014, 16:40
Post by: Flo on March 09, 2014, 16:53
Post by: just some guy on March 09, 2014, 16:54
Meh. 107 points for me :(
today or for the weekend ?
I think I got 0 Today and Gerrans messed up GC wise in P-N :angry
Post by: Flo on March 09, 2014, 17:07
today or for the weekend ?
I think I got 0 Today and Gerrans messed up GC wise in P-N :angry
107 for this week, 84 Chaves, 10 Marcato, 9 Villella and 5 Amador.
I have checked all the updates and I went
45
16
44
38
91
109
63
97
:angel
Post by: oliveira on March 09, 2014, 21:18
72nd Paris - Nice
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
GOSS Matthew
KEUKELEIRE Jens
BOONEN Tom
SCHLECK Andy
FEILLU Romain
Tour de Taiwan
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
Grand Tour d'Algérie
Will COBO and Torku go to any of this races? Dunno. No startlist at PCS.
Tirreno-Adriatico
BRAJKOVIč Janez (Giro leader status operation starts here :P)
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MOSER Moreno
NUYENS Nick
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
URAN Rigoberto
KENNAUGH Peter
CONTADOR Alberto
BATTAGLIN Enrico
Dwars door Drenthe
??
Post by: froome19 on March 10, 2014, 21:30
Josedin took advantage of Omega Pharma Quick-Step's early season dominance and the points bonanza that is Tour de Langkawi to claim a comfortable weekly victory. Guillaume van Keirsbulck was the teams highest scorer, closely followed by Esteban Chaves, Michal Kwiatkowsi, Theo Bos, and Andrea Guardini in that order.
There is a tie for 2nd place between two very different teams. Nicosix's collected points from 9 different races - Tour de Langkawi, GP Camaiore, Le Samyn, Strade Bianche, Roma Maxima, Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen, Paris-Nice, GP Ville de Lillers, and because CQ Ranking has included points from today's (Monday) races in this update, Tour de Taiwan. While 90% of Ruudz0r's points came from just Langkawi (Kudus, Chaves, Kruijswijk & Zilioli), with Cunego contributing the remaining 10% at Strade Bianche.
The 4th & 5th best teams of the week - Eric8_A and Grimm - are the two highest movers.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Josedin 412
2. Ruudz0r 358
2. Nicosix 358
4. Eric8_A 352
5. Grimm 331
This Week's High Movers
1. Eric8_A (+37)
2. Grimm (+34)
3. Zuremelk (+28)
3. Cyivel (+28)
5. bicing (+27)
It couldn't be much closer at the top of the overall ranking, but wizard_of_oz is still hanging on up there. We'll see if he can make it 10 out of 10 next week when search takes over the updates.
Top 10 Overall
1. (-) wizard_of_oz 2402
2. (-) Geraint Too Fast 2399
3. (+1) lenissart 2253
4. (-1) just some guy 2242
5. (+2) ItalianGigolo 2154
6. (+3) knallertjeblaf 2128
7. (-2) Ruvu75 2106
8. (-) riaroadtrip 2079
9. (+1) Kazistuta 1999
10. (+11) Ruudz0r 1940
Spreadsheet at Dropbox (http://www.dropbox.com/s/v6q9avrazujmr0t/CQ%202014%20update%209.xls)
Shame, Geraint couldn't take the lead in time for his last update. But safe to say that the Wizard has woven his lack piece of magic. I think he is all out of tricks.
Post by: Flo on March 10, 2014, 21:37
Post by: just some guy on March 11, 2014, 07:51
Van Marcke
Evans
Basso
Moser
Offredo
JVDB
S Clarke
Rolland
Kiserlovski
Löfkvist
Bennett
Albert Achtertes....
Barry Markus
see how we go
Post by: Trudgin on March 11, 2014, 08:41
Tirreno - Adriatico 12th to 18th
BENNATI Daniele
BODNAR Maciej
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
GATTO Oscar
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
MODOLO Sacha
MOSER Moreno
PAOLINI Luca
QUINZIATO Manuel
SAGAN Peter
URAN URAN Rigoberto
Post by: search on March 11, 2014, 18:00
- Tour de Taiwan
- DI GRéGORIO Rémy
- Paris - Nice
- BOONEN Tom
- BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
- BETANCUR Carlos
- PHINNEY Taylor
- GOSS Matthew
- GALLOPIN Tony
- VANENDERT Jelle
- VANDENBERGH Stijn
- Tirreno-Adriatico
- BATTAGLIN Enrico
- MOSER Moreno
- CUNEGO Damiano
- VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
- AMADOR Andrey
- THURAU Bjorn
- KISERLOVSKI Robert
- LÖFKVIST Thomas
- Albert Achterhes Pet Ronde van Drenthe
- BOS Theo
- COLLI Daniele
- Energiewacht Dwars door Drenthe
- BOS Theo
- COLLI Daniele
Post by: just some guy on March 11, 2014, 18:29
Tirreno Adriatico
Van Marcke
Evans
Basso
Moser
Offredo
JVDB
S Clarke
Rolland
Kiserlovski
Löfkvist
Bennett
Albert Achtertes....
Barry Markus
see how we go
plus :fp
Energiewacht Dwars door Drenthe
MARKUS Barry
AUGUSTYN John Lee
Post by: Flo on March 11, 2014, 20:37
And that for 35 points while he should have cost 200
Post by: Trudgin on March 13, 2014, 18:14
Updated team for Tirreno Adriatico
Tirreno - Adriatico 12th to 18th
BENNATI Daniele
BODNAR Maciej
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
GATTO Oscar
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
MODOLO Sacha
MOSER Moreno
PAOLINI Luca
QUINZIATO Manuel
SAGAN Peter
URAN URAN Rigoberto
An update for all those races Ive never heard of.. and some i obviously have..
Nokere Koerse 19th
DILLIER Silvan
KOWALSKI Rudy
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
ZABEL Rick
Cholet - Pays De Loire 23rd
ENGOULVENT Jimmy
KOWALSKI Rudy
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
PAILLOT Yoann
VENTURINI Clément
Milan - Sanremo 23rd
AGNOLI Valerio
BARGUIL Warren
BENNATI Daniele
BOONEN Tom
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
GATTO Oscar
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MODOLO Sacha
MOSER Moreno
RATTO Daniele
SAGAN Peter
URAN URAN Rigoberto
Dwars door Vlaanderenn 24th
BODNAR Maciej
DILLIER Silvan
GATTO Oscar
GOUGEARD Alexis
IGLINSKIY Valentin
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
ZABEL Rick
Are there Wombles at Cholet.... wouldnt it be wonderful if we could find a tifosi in a womble outfit :Sleepy:
has anyone else noticed i appear to have Cannondale! just the team....
Post by: Trudgin on March 13, 2014, 18:17
108th :shh
I'M SURE IF I COULD OPEN IT I'D BE WAAAAY BELOW YOU..
PS DONT MEAN TO BE SHOUTING BUT IT'S TOO LATE TO TAKE THE CAPS LOCK OFF... I KNOW THIS AS THE LIGHTS HAVE JUST GONE OFF IN THE OFFICE!!!!!
Post by: Flo on March 13, 2014, 18:22
Post by: Flo on March 13, 2014, 18:24
I'M SURE IF I COULD OPEN IT I'D BE WAAAAY BELOW YOU..
PS DONT MEAN TO BE SHOUTING BUT IT'S TOO LATE TO TAKE THE CAPS LOCK OFF... I KNOW THIS AS THE LIGHTS HAVE JUST GONE OFF IN THE OFFICE!!!!!
You're 141 but with only 250 points less than me
Post by: Trudgin on March 13, 2014, 18:25
My boys will come good
Post by: froome19 on March 13, 2014, 18:30
Post by: Flo on March 13, 2014, 19:03
Post by: just some guy on March 13, 2014, 19:09
I know I have said this before.
taking the evans press route ;)
Post by: Josedin on March 14, 2014, 07:01
Thomas Lofkvist
Jurgen Van DEn Broeck
Andre Greipel
Michal Kwiatkowski
Romain Sicard
Nikias Arndt
David De La Cruz
Albert Achterhes Pet Ronde van Drenthe
Theo Bos
Nick Van Der Lijke
Mas Bonet
De Weiert Dwars door Drenthe
Theo Bos
Nick Van Der Lijke
Mas Bonet
Post by: Trudgin on March 14, 2014, 11:29
Trudg I don't think our boy is riding San Remo :shh he is on the PCS startlist but I don't think he's riding
do you mean Sagan? Why wouldnt he, unless he's feeling really bad?
Ive so many boys, im not sure which you are referring to ;)
Post by: Flo on March 14, 2014, 12:36
do you mean Sagan? Why wouldnt he, unless he's feeling really bad?
Ive so many boys, im not sure which you are referring to ;)
:fp
Sagan is your boy not ours :shh Berto :shh
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 14, 2014, 12:47
With Remi banking around 140 freebie points in Taiwan this week could good for me, especially if Betancur wins in Paris Nice.. :cool
Likewise.
I hadn't even been following Taiwan.
Imagine my surprise to see that "Cheap as Chips" Rémy had bagged me all those lovely CQ points with the win!
Come on Carlos.
Post by: Trudgin on March 14, 2014, 14:43
:fp
Sagan is your boy not ours :shh Berto :shh
Ooops i missed that that was an 'our'... seems i read like i type!!
No Berto... :( :o
Post by: Flo on March 16, 2014, 16:40
On the bright side, Bertie is scoring major points.
Post by: froome19 on March 16, 2014, 20:24
Especially as he didn't deserve it.. hopefully he will make it up inthe classics.
Contador could be a must pick, but so may Betancur... pretty intriguing actually and a lot riding on those two.
Post by: Vamos Colombia! (-: on March 16, 2014, 21:43
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 16, 2014, 21:58
what is this game is it too late for me to join
It's been too late for one of the Clinic's "Not So Magnificent Seven", for some time. ;)
Styby dropped from 3rd to 15th overall in PN :(Gutted.
On the bright side, Bertie is scoring major points.Also gutted. :D (has Moreno Moser finished yet? :we all gonna die:)
Post by: Flo on March 16, 2014, 22:00
what is this game is it too late for me to join
Yes unfortunately it's too late :( but there will be games for the GTs too so stay tuned.
Post by: Vamos Colombia! (-: on March 16, 2014, 22:00
It's been too late for one of the Clinic's "Not So Magnificent Seven", for some time. ;)what do you mean with that who are those seven
Post by: oliveira on March 16, 2014, 23:53
Will be great for my team, but only after next week. By now things dont look good as my PN lads didn´t grab points (as expected). Keukeleire is probably the best at GC...
Next week there's some 1 day races, and Nizzolo's return from his collarbone fracture. Finally everyone are ready to go!
Post by: Flo on March 17, 2014, 07:19
Although - I just checked and with a win in Pais Vasco and 2 second places he'd score 620 from GC alone :D which should bring him very close to 1200... Then some stage points..... :D
:win
Post by: oliveira on March 17, 2014, 15:35
Post by: Flo on March 17, 2014, 15:45
Also, this year is the Liège 100th edition. Excelent year to give it a big try!
well let's not get too excited :D
Post by: search on March 17, 2014, 18:55
After 9 week of ozzie dominance at the top, leadership has changed for the first time in this year's cq game. Geraint Too Fast took over the lead, the Wizard of Oz dropped two places and is down to 3rd.
Geraint too Fast took advantage of Rémy di Gregorio's win and the surprisingly strong performance of Markus Eibegger in the Tour of Taiwan which made him able to grap the lead ahead of the strongly upcoming team of SteelyDan. This week's highscorer moved up from 22nd to 2nd - and if Richie Porte hadn't been swapped from Paris Nice to Tirreno Adriato as a last minute call, who knows if it might have even been the lead.
Generally there has been a lot of movement and mainly because of Betancur winning Paris Nice the teams of Yellow Night, Froome19 and Mellow Velo all were able to step up massively and conquer the Top 10 without having even been in striking distance before.
Behind Steelyban's enomous 796 points - the 2nd best scoring so far this year - the Velorooms collective team came 2nd in the list of this week's top scorers - followed by Froome19, search and Mello Velo.
Despite the fact of starting the game eight riders down, fraserhughes' remaining players were able to earn him an impressive move of 60 places, whereby he is also this week's highest mover, closely followed by olopaine, highoctane, al_pacino, ironsscally.
This Week's Top Scorers
- SteelyDan 796
- VeloRooms 686
- Froome19 685
- Mellow Velo 679
- search 677
This Week's High Movers
- fraserhughes (+60)
- olopaine (+57)
- highoctane (+56)
- al_pacino (+56)
- ironsscally (+55)
Top 10 Overall
- (+1) Geraint Too Fast 2699
- (+20) SteelyDan 2545
- (-2) wizard_of_oz 2503
- (+15) Yellow Knight 2423
- (+23) Froome19 2396
- (-) knallertjeblaf 2392
- (-4) lenissart 2367
- (+29) Mellow Velo 2322
- (-5) just some guy 2320
- (-3) Ruvu75 2300
With Tirreno-Adriatico still running and Milan Sanremo coming up, massive points are available this week again. Ruvu75, currently 10th, is the highest placed team includining Tirreno Adriatico's likely winner Alberto COntador, while Geraint Too Fast will try to defend his position in the lead with a good result from Nairo Quintana. Or will another surprise winner in Sanremo turn the standings upside down!? We will see, stay tuned...
Download the Spreadsheet (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8zmprlsyajs701v/CQ%202014%20update%2010.xls)
Post by: Flo on March 17, 2014, 19:00
oh - apparently Contador scored 103 points already :P that explains things
Though next week's score will be lower than expected if part of his points count for this week :(
Post by: just some guy on March 17, 2014, 19:08
MV :angry I am looking at you :lol
well done to GTF taking over from OZ and ripper effort from the all OZ team to be doing so well late into the year. It remains to be seen how long the fall is But Gerrans, Evans and Porte may keep the team going.
As for me TA was very important but I needed Evans to score well and the next 2 stage races to be around the 700 points the time the Giro starts, The crash at P-N put Gerrans outside Podium chance in the bin, be he is in profit already so all good.
Phinney concerns me crashing ever 30 min, Moser as well he was 6th on GC after a couple of really hard stages only to disappear.
Hopefully good MSR for me and then keep around the top 10, I was hoping to be 1st for one week but not sure that is even possible as I thin GTF will sail off into the sunset with this one
Post by: just some guy on March 17, 2014, 19:14
Post by: froome19 on March 17, 2014, 19:50
Only thing left to rue is Stybar's demise without that it could have been even better. Still the Contador hunters will be hot on the heels soon and I have no one for GC at Tirreno.. My classics contingent isn't very impressive either, so...
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 17, 2014, 20:01
Some of the heavy hitters come now
MV :angry I am looking at you :lol
Hehehe. 2 points.
A few weeks ago I was in the relegation zone. :D
Not too bad, considering Stybar and Moser imploded.
TA now rests on just Kiserlovski.
I share your concerns over Phinney. Always a bit of a flaky risk.
Post by: oliveira on March 17, 2014, 22:40
Post by: search on March 17, 2014, 22:42
Post by: Flo on March 18, 2014, 06:55
Just noticed Betancur in 2013 by the end of Paris Nice had 0 points. And still got around 1000... Gonna be a great pick. Congrats for the ones who saw that coming!
But we have Contador :wave
Post by: 18-Valve on March 18, 2014, 07:28
But we have Contador :wave
GP_Blanco has both
Post by: al_pacino on March 18, 2014, 12:31
I'm still waiting for a few to start their season.
Post by: Flo on March 18, 2014, 16:20
430 points for Contador from T-A :) total 538 points this year already after just 2 races :D
87 points more than after 3 races in 2013 :o
Post by: Trudgin on March 18, 2014, 16:28
:(
Post by: search on March 18, 2014, 16:32
Post by: Trudgin on March 18, 2014, 17:30
Volta Catalunya 24th to 20th
AGNOLI Valerio
BARGUIL Warren
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
POLJANSKI Pawel
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel
TIRALONGO Paolo
URAN URAN Rigoberto
E3 Harelbeke 28th
BENNATI Daniele
BODNAR Maciej
BOONEN Tom
DILLIER Silvan
GATTO Oscar
IGLINSKIY Valentin
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
MODOLO Sacha
PAOLINI Luca
QUINZIATO Manuel
RAST Gregory
SAGAN Peter
VELITS Martin
gent-wevelgem 30th
BENNATI Daniele
BODNAR Maciej
ENGOULVENT Jimmy
GATTO Oscar
IGLINSKIY Valentin
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
MODOLO Sacha
PAOLINI Luca
QUINZIATO Manuel
RAST Gregory
SAGAN Peter
VELITS Martin
ZABEL Rick
As it stands on PCS at the moment Vai Il Gerva.... get a move on. :luv
Post by: just some guy on March 18, 2014, 17:41
Post by: Trudgin on March 18, 2014, 17:50
mmh, usually you should be able to open it. Don't you have Excel (or anything similar)?
Got in at home, on ipad! At work its blocked :shh
Cheers, its not as good as i hoped, but Berto's points to total & more for Sags getting jersey?? Does that work.
Anyway thanks
Post by: search on March 18, 2014, 17:54
137 for TA GC :angry
about the same for me, 124 I think, and that's way more than I expected, Kiserlovski moving up from 10th to 7th due to the time trial was kind of a surprise.
need to hope for Theo Bos to win Handzame Classic this week, not much more to expect I think. Maybe some points from Amador or Belletti in GP Nobili, but I wouldn't rely on that. Same for Sanremo, EBH, Phinney, Cunego...strong on paper, but that's it.
Post by: oliveira on March 18, 2014, 17:56
yep, +more or less nothing after the Giro. He basically scored all his points in 8 weeks time
I wonder if his 2014 early race program is too full. Already has 22 days of racing and he's supposed to ride Catalunya, Vasco, Ardennes and Romandie. Probably the Ardennes contender with most racing in his legs by late April. If he's already quite in top form, will be hard to deal with fatigue, if he isn't, he's gonna crack the cq rank.
Post by: search on March 18, 2014, 18:02
last year he did ride the Ardennes classics as preperation for the Giro, for the first time, without any ambitions at all, and still was close to win the Fleche and Liege. The pressure will be higher this year, but if he continues to improve that way it'll be hard to beat him there
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 18, 2014, 18:17
137 for TA GC :angry
A few more than me, though. ;)
Kiser plus a few 5 pointers.
I have decided that picking Moreno Moser was right, but
it should have been for the career in decline game. :lol
Post by: oliveira on March 18, 2014, 18:23
FENN Andrew
SWIFT Ben
KREDER Michel
Handzame Classic
FENN Andrew
SWIFT Ben
Expecting some points some points from this, as the bigger teams are intrested in the sprint, and both Swift and Fenn can deliver some good results at it in this sprinting field.
GP Nobili Rubinetterie
NIZZOLO Giacomo
BELLETTI Manuel
Belletti needs a result here, but Nizzolo who would be the biggest contender in the startlist is just coming from a brocken collarbone. Anyway, let's hope for a sprint.
Classic Loire Atlantique
FEILLU Romain
KREDER Michel
Good to see how Kreder is. In a good day he can win it.
Milano-Sanremo
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
BRAJKOVIč Janez
ARU Fabio
MOSER Moreno
NUYENS Nick
BOONEN Tom
URAN Rigoberto
KEUKELEIRE Jens
GOSS Matthew
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BATTAGLIN, Enrico
BELLETTI, Manuel ?
Just a pity Nizzolo isn't here. With nice weather, should be some kind of sprint. Let's hope Goss and EBH to be there. Hardly a win, but can limitate losses.
Post by: Flo on March 18, 2014, 18:29
ZORDAN Andrea
CRADDOCK Lawson
GP Nobili Rubinetterie-Coppa Papà Carlo-Coppa Città di Stresa (1.1)
HEPBURN Michael
AMADOR Andrey
ROSA Diego
Handzame Classic (1.1)
CRADDOCK Lawson
ZORDAN Andrea
Milano-Sanremo (1.WT)
ARU Fabio
ATAPUMA John Darwin*
MOSER Moreno
WELLENS Tim
AMADOR Andrey
BOONEN Tom
URAN Rigoberto
GOSS Matthew
HEPBURN Michael
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
Volta Ciclista a Catalunya (2.WT)
ATAPUMA John Darwin*
URAN Rigoberto
CHAVES Johan Esteban
CONTADOR Alberto
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
meh. :P
Post by: just some guy on March 18, 2014, 19:05
MARKUS Barry
GP Nobili Rubinetterie-Coppa Papà Carlo-Coppa Città di Stresa
AUGUSTYN John Lee
DUARTE Fabio
Handzame Classic
MARKUS Barry
Classic Loire Atlantique
0
Milano-Sanremo
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ARU Fabio
PHINNEY Taylor
ATAPUMA John Darwin
MOSER Moreno
OFFREDO Yoann
BOONEN Tom
CLARKE Simon
GERRANS Simon
KISERLOVSKI Robert
LöFKVIST Thomas
Cholet - Pays De Loire
0
give and take a few as riders get confirmed JVDB is listed as part of lotto not sure that will happen
Post by: Trudgin on March 19, 2014, 21:15
An update for all those races Ive never heard of.. and some i obviously have..
Nokere Koerse 19th
DILLIER Silvan
KOWALSKI Rudy
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
ZABEL Rick
Cholet - Pays De Loire 23rd
ENGOULVENT Jimmy
KOWALSKI Rudy
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
PAILLOT Yoann
VENTURINI Clément
Milan - Sanremo 23rd
AGNOLI Valerio
BENNATI Daniele
BODNAR Maciej
GATTO Oscar
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MODOLO Sacha
MOSER Moreno
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer
RAST Gregory
SAGAN Peter
URAN URAN Rigoberto
Dwars door Vlaanderenn 24th
BODNAR Maciej
DILLIER Silvan
GATTO Oscar
GOUGEARD Alexis
IGLINSKIY Valentin
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
ZABEL Rick
Are there Wombles at Cholet.... wouldnt it be wonderful if we could find a tifosi in a womble outfit :Sleepy:
has anyone else noticed i appear to have Cannondale! just the team....
Milan - Sanremo 23rd
AGNOLI Valerio
BENNATI Daniele
BODNAR Maciej
GATTO Oscar
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
MODOLO Sacha
MOSER Moreno
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer
RAST Gregory
SAGAN Peter
URAN URAN Rigoberto
Updated MSR, no Berto or Tomekke
Post by: just some guy on March 20, 2014, 08:50
Barry Markus 12 points :win
Post by: cj2002 on March 20, 2014, 09:59
http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=5029.msg147401 (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=5029.msg147401)
Well done Mellow Velo and Search - joint second behind the collective team!
Post by: oliveira on March 21, 2014, 01:44
Good to see Swift and Guardini in a Monument.
BELLETTI Manuel
HOOGERLAND Johnny
GUARDINI Andrea
BATTAGLIN Enrico
MOSER Moreno
QUINTANA Dayer
KEUKELEIRE Jens
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
SWIFT Ben
Dayer needs to end this race to get on profit.
And as he only shows himself at the big races, Battaglin ftw! :D
Post by: Josedin on March 23, 2014, 01:25
Very weak team:
- Guardini
- Lofkvist
- Greipel
- Sutterlin
- Kwiatkowski
- De la Cruz
- Ben Swift
Post by: Flo on March 23, 2014, 18:31
Volta Ciclista a Catalunya (2.WT)
ATAPUMA John Darwin
URAN Rigoberto
CHAVES Johan Esteban
CONTADOR Alberto
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
ARU Fabio
KESSIAKOFF Frederik
ANACONA Winner
Aiming for 200 points
Post by: KeithJamesMc on March 24, 2014, 11:07
Contador
Uran
Atapuma
Elissonde
Howson
Kessiakoff
Yates, Adam
Chaves
De Gendt
forgot
Barguil
Aiming for 255+ points
Post by: Flo on March 24, 2014, 11:44
Post by: just some guy on March 24, 2014, 14:33
ARU Fabio
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
ATAPUMA John Darwin
BASSO Ivan
ANACONA Winner
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
CLARKE Simon
CHAVES Johan Esteban
ROLLAND Pierre
KISERLOVSKI Robert
69th Dwars door Vlaanderen
PHINNEY Taylor
BOONEN Tom
DOCKER Mitchell
HAYMAN Mathew
MARKUS Barry
GERDEMANN Linus
BENNETT Sam
57th E3 Harelbeke
PHINNEY Taylor
VANMARCKE Sep
OFFREDO Yoann
BOONEN Tom
DOCKER Mitchell
HAYMAN Mathew
GERDEMANN Linus
few other race will look at later as start lists are not upto to date
Post by: oliveira on March 24, 2014, 16:54
This one coming, with almost all the big guns at Catalunya we'll have a bunch of points from Criterium and Coppi and Bartali ending in someone's lap.
Volta a Catalunya
HESJEDAL Ryder
CONTADOR Alberto
URAN Rigoberto
ARU Fabio
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ANACONA Winner
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
CHAVES Johan Esteban
NIZZOLO Giacomo
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
PATERSKI Maciej
KREDER Michel
Dwars door Vlaanderen
NUYENS Nick
FENN Andrew
BOONEN Tom
KEUKELEIRE Jens
GERDEMANN Linus
E3 Harelbeke
NUYENS Nick
BOONEN Tom
KEUKELEIRE Jens
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
GERDEMANN Linus
Gent-Wevelgem
NUYENS Nick
GOSS Matthew
KEUKELEIRE Jens
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
Post by: search on March 24, 2014, 18:16
A solid week for Geraint Too Fast was enough to manifest his newly gained lead, but with Alberto Contador stepping up and winning Tirreno Adriatico, there is some new competition he has to face over the coming weeks. Pentacycle, the best placed team including COntador, managed to move up 15 places, but while 9-week-leader wizard of oz dropped from 3rd to 10th, it was still not enough to step up on the podium, as Steely Dan only just managed to defend his 2nd place - and the last podium spot was taken over by Yellow Knight - one of the very few to have Milano - Sanremo winner Alexander Kristoff in his team.
This week's top scorer is MCardinalR, scoring a massive amount of 867 points, mainly from Contador, Quintana and the big surprise of the weekend: Ben Swift. Not too surprisingly, all the remaining placed in the Top 5 were taken by teams that include Contador as well.
The same picture is to be seen in regard of this week's high movers: 4 out of 5 mentioned team include Contador, earning keithjamesmc a massive move of 58 places. The only mentioned team without Contador is Bicycle_Boy, one of the only three participants to have chosen Alexander Kristoff.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 MCardinalR 867
2 Pentacycle 678
3 keithjamesmc 675
4 del1962 639
5 minessa 636
This Week's High Movers
1 keithjamesmc (+58)
2 MCardinalR (+54)
2 Bicycle_Boy (+54)
4 minessa (+53)
5 gustienordic (+49)
Top 10 Overall
1 (-) Geraint Too Fast 3104
2 (-) SteelyDan 2816
3 (+1) Yellow Knight 2805
4 (+15) Pentacycle 2794
5 (+9) freshman 2764
6 (+1) lenissart 2693
7 (-2) Froome19 2673
8 (+2) Ruvu75 2659
9 (+13) Martin 2644
10 (-7) wizard_of_oz 2607
No doubt this is just an introduction of what will happen in the following weeks. With the Volta a Catalunya, the Criterium International, Coppi e Bartali and the great belgian classics, loads of points are on the table again to mix up the standings.
Spreadsheet / CQ Update #11 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/u4kifyl1vzmb5zw/CQ%202014%20update%2011.xls)
Post by: Flo on March 24, 2014, 18:32
Post by: Leadbelly on March 24, 2014, 18:34
First rider into profit as well - go go Sonny!
Now all I need is some of my slow starters to get weaving - I'm looking at you Konig and Dennis. (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/whipping-someone-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)
Post by: just some guy on March 24, 2014, 18:36
apart from that I am ok dropped out the top 10 forthe 2nd time :angry
Velorooms team is doing well though.
Above MV though, so that´s something :lol
Post by: froome19 on March 24, 2014, 18:41
Post by: search on March 24, 2014, 18:48
Post by: KeithJamesMc on March 24, 2014, 19:00
+27 :) but Keith is one place above me :angry :angry
:party
Post by: Flo on March 24, 2014, 19:05
Already into profit:
| BOONEN Tom | 283 | 203.60% |
| HEPBURN Michael | 87 | 122.54% |
| CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban | 89 | - |
| GERDEMANN Linus | 53 | - |
Going well (in other words these guys will end up being okay):
| CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto | 538 | 43.81% |
| STYBAR Zdenek | 164 | 25.43% |
| SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon | 242 | 63.68% |
Not too bad but not great either (these guys could still end up okay):
| URAN URAN Rigoberto | 153 | 20.62% |
| VILLELLA Davide | 49 | 22.37% |
| GOSS Matthew | 46 | 21.20% |
| RABOTTINI Matteo | 52 | 27.51% |
| KENNAUGH Peter | 23 | 24.73% |
| ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew | 10 | 50.00% |
Meh... (will most likely not be good picks but could avoid being disastrous still) :
| ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin | 38 | 10.50% |
| MARCATO Marco | 40 | 12.23% |
| JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt | 24 | 7.95% |
| AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey | 39 | 14.23% |
| ROSA Diego | 19 | 10.50% |
Fail (these guys need a miracle to become good picks) aka what was I thinking :
| MOSER Moreno | 6 | 1.70% |
| YATES Simon | 13 | 7.93% |
| ARU Fabio | 0 | 0.00% |
| CRADDOCK Lawson | 0 | 0.00% |
| MORTON Lachlan | 0 | 0.00% |
| BOARO Manuele | 7 | 5.11% |
| WELLENS Tim | 0 | 0.00% |
| MOHORIC Matej | 5 | 3.97% |
| EWAN Caleb | 5 | 4.55% |
| STUYVEN Jasper | 0 | 0.00% |
| SCHLECK Andy | 5 | 5.05% |
| DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd | 0 | 0.00% |
| ZORDAN Andrea | 0 | 0.00% |
| SÜTTERLIN Jasha | 0 | 0.00% |
| KESSIAKOFF Fredrik | 0 | 0.00% |
Post by: oliveira on March 24, 2014, 19:39
For me this was a very nice week, as I moved from 49th to 21st! :D
Post by: Flo on March 24, 2014, 19:53
In your "fails", I share the likes of Moser, Aru, Schleck, Dombrowski and Kessiakoff. I'm not worried at all with Aru and Dombrowski... Hopefully Dombrowski will get his "double 2013 score" in USA stage races, and Aru is only now starting his season. By Trentino (Aru's gonna win it) we'll be happy with him.
For me this was a very nice week, as I moved from 49th to 21st! :D
I was a bit reluctant to put Aru, Craddock, Dombrowski and Wellens in the fail category.... but then again they have scored zero points until now so I couldn't fit them into any other category :D
Post by: Flo on March 26, 2014, 17:06
Post by: oliveira on March 26, 2014, 19:12
Anyway for the smaller stage races:
Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali
DOMBROWSKI Joe
KENNAUGH Peter
SWIFT Ben
BELLETTI Manuel
Swift and Belleti can win st 1, as Dombrowski and Kennaugh can go to a GC, dunno who's Sky leader here though. Kennaugh or Kyryenka?
Critérium International
BRAJKOVIč Janez
SCHLECK Andy
DI GRéGORIO Rémy
Rémy FTW !!
Post by: Flo on March 27, 2014, 16:20
22 points for Berto :)
Another 14 :)
Post by: Flo on March 27, 2014, 16:42
Post by: just some guy on March 27, 2014, 16:57
Post by: Flo on March 27, 2014, 17:00
Post by: Flo on March 28, 2014, 12:08
Jasper STUYVEN
Andrey AMADOR
Jasha SÜTTERLIN
Tom BOONEN
Zdenek STYBAR
Michael HEPBURN
Reinardt JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Manuele BOARO
Andrea ZORDAN
Post by: Flo on March 28, 2014, 15:08
Post by: Flo on March 28, 2014, 15:42
22 points for Berto :)
Another 14 :)
Another 3 :D
Post by: Flo on March 28, 2014, 16:11
Post by: just some guy on March 28, 2014, 16:37
SO 124 MORE THAN 2 :rasmussen
Post by: Trudgin on March 28, 2014, 17:45
:P :lol
Post by: Flo on March 28, 2014, 18:22
Ahem... Sorry how many have Sagan... Flo? JSG? No? Oh dear....
:P :lol
:angry
Post by: Flo on March 30, 2014, 16:09
Classics fail
Post by: Flo on March 30, 2014, 19:05
Rabottini 81 points, only 3 picks so yay
Contador 214
Kennaugh 147
Stybar a bit disappointing
Damn if only Amador could have stayed ahead today at GW
Also - Contador now 752 vs Fat Cat Betancur 586 :D
300 points ahead of last year
476 points to go for Berto to break even, can he get that in Pais Vasco and Dauphiné? not sure
238 in each which is 2nd place in GC and a stage win or 1 2nd and 1 3rd place
Would be cool because Tour and Vuelta would be all profit :D :shh
Post by: just some guy on March 30, 2014, 19:46
Post by: Flo on March 30, 2014, 20:09
I reckon the best score will be over 1000, but I am happy with my score, best this year for me :)
Post by: just some guy on March 30, 2014, 20:23
Jsg :D
I reckon the best score will be over 1000, but I am happy with my score, best this year for me :)
really ?? :angry
I pulled a few points for various places no where near 1000 half that I think
thank god Sep likes a sprint to beat Boonen :D
Post by: Flo on March 30, 2014, 20:40
really ?? :angry
I pulled a few points for various places no where near 1000 half that I think
thank god Sep likes a sprint to beat Boonen :D
Well 2 WT one day races, 1 WT stage race, HC one day race and stage race and 1.1 stage race. A lot of points I can imagine.
Post by: search on March 31, 2014, 19:22
As expected, week #12 of the 2014 cq ranking game ended in an overflow of points, nearly 100 participants scored 500 or more - but was this enough for anyone to overthrow the leader Geraint Too Fast? The answer is "no - it wasn't", another solid week for him was enough to maintain the top of the ranking, with upcoming Pentacycle and SteelyDan following closely.
With the overload of cycling races the points came from various sources, some gained them in Spain, where Contador could increase his score again, others in Italy from young Kennaugh or in Belgium and France, where John Degenkolb, Peter Sagan and Jicé Peraud gained glory
So did anyone have all of them? No, of course not, but EvansIsTheBest came close, Contador, Degenkolb and Kennaugh made him score 964 points which was enough to become this week's top point scorer. Also Somar13, despite having a pool of only 29 riders, and Trudgin scored more than 900 points. This weeks Top are rounded out by The_Hitch and Team_Roubaix.
It also were Somar13 and Trudgin who thereby became this week's high movers, followed by kiilike, Netserk and Team Roubaix.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 EvansIsTheBest 964
2 Somar13 931
3 Trudgin 907
4 The Hitch 866
5 Team_Roubaix 846
This Week's High Movers
1 Somar13 (+51)
2 Trudgin (+48)
3 kiilike (+36)
4 Netserk (+30)
4 Team_Roubaix (+30)
This Month's Top Scorers
1 SteelyDan 2034
2 MCardinalR 2026
3 EvansIsTheBest 1947
4 Pentacycle 1927
5 Yellow Knight 1912
This Month's High Movers
1 minessa (+85)
2 Trudgin (+82)
3 Netserk (+78)
4 R_O_Shipman (+77)
4 Grimm (+77)
Top 10 Overall
1 (-) Geraint Too Fast 3612
2 (+2) Pentacycle 3581
3 (-1) SteelyDan 3555
4 (-1) Yellow Knight 3415
5 (+21) EvansIsTheBest 3361
6 (+12) del1962 3289
7 (-2) freshman 3272
8 (+9) MCardinalR 3260
9 (-1) Ruvu75 3254
10 (+11) Oliveira 3251
Point wise week #13 of the cq ranking game is likely to be much calmer, but with the Driedaagse de Panne and especially the Ronde van Vlaanderen coming up this cannot be said about the kind of racing we can expect - and those with the cobbles classics contenders in their teams will keep their fingers crossed for their guys to deliver.
Spreadsheet / CQ Update #12 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/57trt6rbzznev73/CQ%202014%20update%2012.xls)
Post by: oliveira on March 31, 2014, 19:40
Post by: Flo on March 31, 2014, 19:57
Post by: Flo on March 31, 2014, 19:59
Post by: just some guy on March 31, 2014, 20:20
Post by: Trudgin on April 01, 2014, 09:39
lost a few more spots made the +500 points though
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+907 :o
Post by: cj2002 on April 01, 2014, 09:52
Not a good time for team CJ.
BUT: among my low scorers are... Westra and Nordhaug, Pinot and Rohan Dennis, Amets, Pierre Rolland and Thomas de Gendt. Uranuran isn't exactly having a stellar season.
Perhaps I'm too far behind now, but I'm optimistically hoping for a late-season surge.
Post by: Leadbelly on April 01, 2014, 10:34
Annoying question time, but is there any way to work out how far we are through the season? Not in terms of time, but in terms of points.
Post by: oliveira on April 01, 2014, 10:46
FENN Andrew
GUARDINI Andrea
HOOGERLAND Johnny
Tour du Maroc
COBO, Juan Jose ? (They say a turkish team will be present)
Route Adélie de Vitré
FEILLU Romain
BELLETTI, Manuel ??
Gran Premio Miguel Indurain
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
QUINTANA Dayer
Volta Limburg Classic
PATERSKI Maciej
Vuelta Ciclista a La Rioja
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
QUINTANA Dayer
Ronde van Vlaanderen
BOONEN Tom
NUYENS Nick
KEUKELEIRE Jens
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
HOOGERLAND Johnny
GERDEMANN Linus
Very unpredictable week. Probably my team's best shot is Lulu @ Miguel Indurain.
Post by: al_pacino on April 01, 2014, 12:48
Annoying question time, but is there any way to work out how far we are through the season? Not in terms of time, but in terms of points.
2013 total points scored 249292
2014 to date 51159
So in theory we are only just over 20% there. Subject to someone correcting my numbers.
Post by: Leadbelly on April 01, 2014, 12:55
:party
Thanks Al
Post by: cj2002 on April 01, 2014, 13:19
2013 total points scored 249292
2014 to date 51159
So in theory we are only just over 20% there. Subject to someone correcting my numbers.
Maybe it's my scientist brain/OCD, but 249292 is annoyingly not a round number. Couldn't they find an arbitrary 708 points somewhere to make it a total quarter-million? Most 27th place finishes, maybe??
Post by: Flo on April 01, 2014, 15:34
HEPBURN Michael
ZORDAN Andrea
GP Miguel Indurain (1.1)
MORTON Lachlan
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Volta Limburg Classic (1.1)
CRADDOCK Lawson
ZORDAN Andrea
Ronde van Vlaanderen (1.WT)
STUYVEN Jasper
BOONEN Tom
STYBAR Zdenek
AMADOR Andrey
SüTTERLIN Jasha
HEPBURN Michael
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
ZORDAN Andrea
GERDEMANN Linus
Post by: Trudgin on April 01, 2014, 20:54
BODNAR Maciej
DEBRSAY ABRHA, Frekalski
GATTO Oscar
IGLINSKIY Valentin
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
MODOLO Sacha
PAOLINI Luca :shh
SAGAN Peter ;)
VELITS Martin
RVV
BENNATI Daniele
BODNAR Maciej
BOONEN Tom
DILLIER Silvan
GATTO Oscar
IGLINSKIY Valentin
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
MODOLO Sacha
PAOLINI Luca :shh
QUINZIATO Manuel
RAST Gregory
SAGAN Peter ;)
Well that was incredibly awkward trying to do that at home
A few I missed :
GP Indurain 5th
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
TXOPERENA MATXIKOTE Beñat
Volta Limburg 5th
DEBRSAY ABRHA Frekalsi
Vuelta ciclista a La Rioja 6th
TXOPERENA MATXIKOTE Beñat
Post by: just some guy on April 02, 2014, 06:36
HAYMAN Mathew
Route Adélie de Vitré
0
Gran Premio Miguel Indurain
MAYBE MORTON Lachlan
Volta Limburg Classic
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
RvV
BOONEN Tom
VANMARCKE Sep
PHINNEY Taylor
OFFREDO Yoann
DOCKER Mitchell
HAYMAN Mathew
GERDEMANN Linus
Post by: oliveira on April 06, 2014, 22:50
Next week:
Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco
CONTADOR Alberto
CHAVES Johan Esteban
KENNAUGH Peter
SWIFT Ben
SCHLECK Andy
HESJEDAL Ryder
BRAJKOVIč Janez
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
I expect Contador to top 3. Hope Hesjedal, Lulu and VdB to be better here than in Catalunya, and Kessiakoff to took off. All in all, a solid bunch I believe.
Circuit Cycliste Sarthe - Pays de la Loire
NIZZOLO Giacomo
BELLETTI Manuel
FEILLU Romain
KREDER Michel
Hoping for Nizzolo to show some better legs.
Scheldeprijs
FENN Andrew
GUARDINI Andrea
NUYENS Nick
HOOGERLAND Johnny
Guardini to podium would be nice!
Grand Prix Cerami
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BATTAGLIN Enrico
Colbrelli's 1st win of the season ;) massive TEAM ATTACK by Bardiani with Battaglin 2nd!
Klasika Primavera de Amorebieta
QUINTANA Dayer
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Hoping Valverde to do not start, so Lulu can get some motivation ftw!
Paris - Roubaix
BOONEN Tom
KEUKELEIRE Jens
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
Eddy Boss/Wiggins to do a Hushovd/Vansummeren on Spartacus? :s
Post by: search on April 07, 2014, 18:36
Update #13: Dutch lead on the Pavé
The first part of the big pavé classics season ended with a surprise and Pentacycle at the top after week #13 of the CQ Ranking game 2014. A score of 276 points was enough to take the lead from Geraint Too Fast.
Contador's 56 points from today's first stage of the Vuelta al Pais Vasco were included in this update, but even without that, it had just been enough to keep up the momentum from the last weeks, when he moved up 17 spots in just 14 days.
This week's Top Scorer is Tanja, the only team with Fabian Cancellara, whereby she also became this week's highest mover.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 tanja 552
2 Grimm 477
3 CQmanager 463
4 search 398
5 lenissart 371
This Week's High Movers
1 tanja (+40)
2 CQmanager (+33)
3 zlev11 (+17)
3 Panda Claws (+17)
3 coinneach (+17)
Top 10 Overall
1 (+1) Pentacycle 3857
2 (-1) Geraint Too Fast 3793
3 (+1) Yellow Knight 3731
4 (-1) SteelyDan 3730
5 (-) EvansIsTheBest 3599
6 (+2) MCardinalR 3559
7 (+2) Ruvu75 3548
8 (+2) Oliveira 3546
9 (-2) freshman 3480
10 (-4) del1962 3478
With Contador currently leading the Vuelta al Pais Vasco Pentacycle can hope to retain the lead in week #14. Or will a suprise winner at Paris Roubaix give us a new leader again?! We will see next week, when the grand cq game founder Hugo Koblet takes over to bring back some style to this ;)
Spreadsheet / CQ Update #13 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pn6q6rx2g5qwje7/CQ%202014%20update%2013.xls)
(the points for Beltran have been adjusted, so 5 more for everyone with him)
Post by: KeithJamesMc on April 07, 2014, 18:44
Should be an excellent week coming though.
Wiggo for PR ;)
Post by: Trudgin on April 08, 2014, 22:14
Scheldeprijs
DEBRSAY ABRHA Frekalsi
DILLIER Silvan
IGLINSKIY Valentin
ISAYCHEV Vladimir
LECUISINIER Pierre-Henri
PAOLINI Luca
QUINZIATO Manuel
SAGAN Peter
VELITS Martin
Post by: just some guy on April 09, 2014, 20:38
BOONEN Tom
MARKUS Barry
VANMARCKE Sep
OFFREDO Yoann
BENNETT Sam
Paris - Roubaix
VANMARCKE Sep
PHINNEY Taylor
OFFREDO Yoann
BOONEN Tom
DOCKER Mitchell
HAYMAN Mathew
ENNETT Sam
Post by: search on April 09, 2014, 20:40
Post by: just some guy on April 10, 2014, 08:16
Post by: just some guy on April 10, 2014, 16:23
I frogot to add I have Honey Badger - who knew that might be important :D
Post by: just some guy on April 12, 2014, 18:15
Post by: mc_mountain on April 14, 2014, 17:22
As teased by search last week Hugo was due to take over the updates this week, but Hugo is on a few days vacation so has asked me to cover for him. Contador and Kwiatkowski were both big scorers this week at Pais Vasco, with other notable contributions from Peraud, Pinot, Poels, Evans, Cunego, Yates, Swift and Villella. Elsewhere during the week, Scheldeprijs pulled in points for Danny Van Poppel, Sam Bennett and Andrea Guardini. Over in South America Winner Anacona was second in the Colombia Nationals Road Race. Paris Roubaix wasnt perhaps the points bonanza it could have been but Degenkolb, Stybar, Sagan and Wiggins all scored well.
It was a good week for some of the big names in CQ games, former winner Skidmark rose several places and perpetual high finisher The Hitch also made a push, as did Will10, with 3rd best score of the week and the most places moved up. First and second on the weekly scoring are now third and second respectively on the overall ranking. Rywann has the glorious combination of Contador and Kwiatkowski, but also has Yates, Villella and Colli. Although without Anacona he does have the 3rd rider from the Nats in Juan Suarez. A weekly score of 1010 is enough for him to jump 10 places to 3rd. Freshman now in second place (up 7 places) also paired the 1st and 2nd from Pais Vasco, and got 100+ scores from Evans and Stybar. The other 2 teams with both the Spaniard and the Pole - Martin and Milanello also understandable had good weeks and are 6th and 12th in the overall.
At the top Pentacycle had another solid week, and stretches his lead still further - does he have the team to keep him there while Contador takes a break?
This Week's Top Scorers
1. rywann 1010
2. freshman 986
3. will10 926
4. Martin 919
5. keithjamesmc 861
This Week's High Movers
1. will10 (+34)
2. Leadbelly (+30)
3. Zuremelk (+29)
4. bicing (+27)
5. Crevaison (+25)
Top 10 Overall
1. (-) Pentacycle 4653
2. (+7) freshman 4466
3. (+10) rywann 4458
4. (+1) EvansIsTheBest 4445
5. (-3) Geraint Too Fast 4391
6. (+6) Martin 4370
7. (-3) SteelyDan 4300
8. (-) Oliveira 4240
9. (-3) MCardinalR 4237
10. (-3) Ruvu75 4226
Dropbox link to Spreadsheet (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mm3om13cqod8nq8/CQ%202014%20update%2014.xls)
Ranking in Full
With the Ardennes to come the teams with Gerrans (from the current top 10 - Geraint too Fast, Ruvu75) on their books will hope to return to the ascendancy as will the Betacurists (SteelyDan) , the Gilbertenites (Pentacycle, Freshman and Martin) will hope their man will make his mark. Will Kwiatkowski (Freshman, rymann, Geraint Too Fast, Martin and SteelyDan) further emerge as a force in one day races as well as stages races. Will Moser repay the faith many of us showed by selecting him or will another rider break out to become a key rider in the 2014 game.
Post by: just some guy on April 14, 2014, 18:48
| just some guy | 2013 Results | 2014 Results | Profit | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EVANS Cadel | 758 | 486 | -272 | |
| GERRANS Simon | 511 | 512 | 1 | |
| VANMARCKE Sep | 491 | 559 | 68 | |
| PHINNEY Taylor | 475 | 230 | -245 | |
| KÖNIG Leopold | 411 | 17 | -394 | |
| ROLLAND Pierre | 403 | 22 | -381 | |
| BASSO Ivan | 380 | 21 | -359 | |
| KISERLOVSKI Robert | 371 | 194 | -177 | |
| ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin | 362 | 43 | -319 | |
| MOSER Moreno | 353 | 6 | -347 | |
| VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen | 341 | 42 | -299 | |
| OFFREDO Yoann | 295 | 90 | -205 | |
| ARU Fabio | 262 | 18 | -244 | |
| NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas | 242 | 206 | -36 | |
| CLARKE Simon | 227 | 220 | -7 | |
| MARKUS Barry | 209 | 41 | -168 | |
| LÖFKVIST Thomas | 193 | 22 | -171 | |
| HAYMAN Mathew | 178 | 27 | -151 | |
| MORTON Lachlan | 159 | 0 | -159 | |
| BOONEN Tom | 139 | 573 | 434 | |
| KRUIJSWIJK Steven | 125 | 62 | -63 | |
| BENNETT Sam | 121 | 202 | 81 | |
| DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres | 119 | 48 | -71 | |
| EWAN Caleb | 110 | 10 | -100 | |
| SCHLECK Andy | 99 | 10 | -89 | |
| DOCKER Mitchell | 54 | 48 | -6 | |
| CLARKE William | 46 | 79 | 33 | |
| KESSIAKOFF Fredrik | 42 | 5 | -37 | |
| ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew | 20 | 75 | 55 | |
| GERDEMANN Linus | 0 | 53 | 53 | |
| CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban | 0 | 99 | 99 | |
| AUGUSTYN John-Lee | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| JOHNSON Benjamin | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total 7496 | 4020 | -3476 |
so if any one care thought I would have a look at my fan boy based team again
even though I have scored 4000 points I have a lot of dead weight
Phinny will have to have a brilliant tour and WC to break even
Moser where to start hopefully this next 2 weeks
Rolland better go full retard for the Giro
JVDB still could go ok but not holding my breath
König I think will be ok as his year starts soonish
Basso ummm see Rolland
KISERLOVSKI I guess will lead trek at the tour will the brothers so should be ok
Offredo ummmm 90 points only so will be a good pick next year :lol
Markus can not see him breaking even at this stage which is disappointing
Morton will be back at bargin price for team jsg 2015
Ewan still holding out for a good win or 2 after August
Sad Haymen did not sneak a top 10 at P-R will be hard for him to break even now
Evans is looking solid for the 1000 I said
Gerro better have the sniper aim on next weeks
Happy Nava won last week
Postman Sam Guru
still a lot of people who need to do well but sitting 16th only 400 points off a top 10 and a lot of my GC guys are Giro bound so all in all still happy
Post by: oliveira on April 15, 2014, 16:13
I think Ben Swift is making a big difference in my favour, without him aboard I would probably never been mentioned on an update.
Anyway, some tough weeks ahead as my best Ardennes guy is probably Moser. I hope to get points in minor races to keep afloat until Giro.
De Brabantse Pijl - La Flèche Brabançonne
NUYENS Nick
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
FENN Andrew
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BELLETTI Manuel
PATERSKI Maciej
GERDEMANN Linus
KREDER Michel
GP de Denain Porte du Hainaut
BATTAGLIN Enrico
HOOGERLAND Johnny ?
BELLETTI Manuel ?
Post by: oliveira on April 18, 2014, 16:47
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
SWIFT Ben
SCHLECK Andy
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BELLETTI Manuel
PATERSKI Maciej
KREDER Michel
BATTAGLIN Enrico
I'm more positive about EBH chances here than in cobbled stuff. Actually I'm praying he goes to Giro and skips the Tour. There's a whole big bunch of points in August-October for him to score. His kind of stuff like Wallonie, Eneco, Plouay, Vattenfall, Canada's, Paris - Tours, WC... For the others in my team here they are underdogs but who knows one of them could do well. Swift and Kreder the most likely imo. Not sure about Battaglin's hand...
Tro-Bro Léon
FEILLU Romain
One more Top 20 Romain! Let's go for 5 more points!!!
Post by: Flo on April 18, 2014, 20:08
Marcato
Villella
Mohoric
Wellens
Stybar
Janse Van Rensburg
Zordan
Andy :lol
Post by: search on April 18, 2014, 20:23
- BETANCUR Carlos
- CUNEGO Damiano
- GALLOPIN Tony
- VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
- VANENDERT Jelle
- BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
- SCHLECK Andy
- HOOGERLAND Johnny
- BELLETTI Manuel
- LöFKVIST Thomas
- BATTAGLIN Enrico
Post by: Flo on April 20, 2014, 19:36
Post by: search on April 20, 2014, 19:38
Post by: Arb on April 21, 2014, 06:20
Post by: Flo on April 21, 2014, 11:54
25 points this week :cool :betting
-23 :we all gonna die:
Post by: just some guy on April 21, 2014, 17:31
Post by: Flo on April 21, 2014, 17:47
Quote from: Hugo Koblet
Update #15: Skibby gets out of the bush
The cobbled classics have been left behind and the Ardennes classics are upon us and it's time for a new group of riders to shine. Does that mean that it's time for a new group of teams to dominate the CQ Rankings Manager Game as well?
If this week's update is to tell us anything, it's that we can't tell at all yet!
At the top of This Week's Top Scorers list, we find Skibby the bush kangaroo, who earns 648 points, mainly from Gilbert, Matthews and Vanendert. That's only 5 points more than second placed Reno who has the same three riders and only needed one more finisher in Amstel Gold Race to tie Skibby for first place.
Our leader, Pentacycle, finds a way into the top 5 as well, mainly because of points from Gilbert and Vanendert.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Skibby the bush kangaroo - 648
2. Reno - 643
3. DJ Sprtsch - 627
4. HelgeBlendet - 589
5. Pentacycle - 560
This Week's High Jumpers list is dominated by some of the same names we found on This Week's Top Scorers list. Moving up 39 places, HelgeBlendet edges out Skibby the bush kangaroo, who jumps 37 places, for first place, while DJ Sprtsch has to settle for third, jumping 35 places. In fourth place we find a former winner. ingsve moves up 34 places, but there's still some work to do if he wants to become the first two time winner, as he's still only in 87th place overall.
This Week's High Jumpers
1. HelgeBlendet +39
2. Skibby the bush kangaroo +37
3. DJ Sprtsch + 35
4. ingsve +34
5. ----AG---- +31
5. Panda Claws +31
In the overall top 10, Pentacycle still leads the pack as he extends his lead over freshman by 77 points and now has a 264 points advantage. Martin jumps into third place, while EvansIsTheBest loses a little ground, dropping two places down to 6th. That's nothing, however, compared to Oliveira who collapses completely this week, scoring only 40 points and in the proces drops from 8th to 15th.
The only new team in the top 10 this week is Grimm who jumps from 13th to 7th, but beware, because just outside the top 10, three teams are pushing hard. Reno jumps from 40th to 11th, lenissart from 17th to 12th and knallertjeblaf from 31st to 13th.
Top 10
1. (-) Pentacycle - 5213
2. (-) freshman - 4949
3. (+3) Martin - 4857
4. (-1) rywann - 4744
5. (-) Geraint Too Fast - 4617
6. (-2) EvansIsTheBest - 4607
7. (+6) Grimm - 4554
8. (+2) Ruvu75 - 4502
9. (-2) SteelyDan - 4446
10. (-1) MCardinalR - 4431
Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/1ytlnw3bcf802wi/CQ+2014+update+15.xls (http://www.mediafire.com/download/1ytlnw3bcf802wi/CQ+2014+update+15.xls)
Post by: Trudgin on April 21, 2014, 19:07
Post by: oliveira on April 21, 2014, 19:24
Giro del Trentino
ARU Fabio
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
QUINTANA Dayer
ANACONA Winner
MOSER Moreno
BATTAGLIN Enrico
PATERSKI Maciej
La Flèche Wallonne
KENNAUGH Peter
SWIFT Ben
HESJEDAL Ryder
SCHLECK Andy
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
KREDER Michel
GERDEMANN Linus
Presidential Cycling Tour of Turkey
GUARDINI Andrea
COBO Juan Jose
GERDEMANN Linus
Liège - Bastogne - Liège
MOSER Moreno
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
KENNAUGH Peter
SCHLECK Andy
Post by: just some guy on April 22, 2014, 12:35
Fabio ARU
Fredrik KESSIAKOFF
Winner ANACONA
Ivan BASSO
Moreno MOSER
Cadel EVANS
Fabio DUARTE
Leopold KÖNIG
LFW
John Darwin ATAPUMA
Simon CLARKE
Thomas LÖFKVIST
Jurgen VAN DEN BROECK
Pierre ROLLAND
Linus GERDEMANN
solid so far rest to come when startlists updated
Post by: Trudgin on April 22, 2014, 18:21
My tiny team for Fleche Wallone
ARGUIL Warren
BETTIOL Alberto
CATTANEO Mattia
MOHORIC Matej
RATTO Daniele
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel
VILLELLA Davide
Post by: just some guy on April 23, 2014, 06:10
Post by: mc_mountain on April 23, 2014, 10:33
28 points from the TTT so more than last week already :D
(sorry only 6 for Evans, CQ have updated the rider score but not the score on the stage result)
Post by: just some guy on April 23, 2014, 13:42
(sorry only 6 for Evans, CQ have updated the rider score but not the score on the stage result)
crap :lol
made it all back today
Evans Duarte and Aru high on GC now see how we go
Post by: Arb on April 23, 2014, 13:52
Post by: just some guy on April 24, 2014, 16:26
ye old dog and the Aru and Duarte setting things up well circa 250 so far for the week
lbl will be a make or break for a very good or solid I guess
Post by: just some guy on April 25, 2014, 14:59
GC 1st , 4th and 7th plus bits a peices
Post by: Flo on April 25, 2014, 15:59
Post by: just some guy on April 26, 2014, 10:56
ATAPUMA John Darwin
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
CLARKE Simon
GERRANS Simon
ROLLAND Pierre
SCHLECK Andy
LöFKVIST Thomas
Not looking super strong
Post by: Trudgin on April 26, 2014, 23:21
BARGUIL Warren
BETTIOL Alberto
CATTANEO Mattia
MOHORIC Matej
RATTO Daniel
SANCHEZ Samu
VILLELLA Davide
Tour of turkey
HANSEN Adam
IGLKNSKY Valentin
DEBRSAY Frekalsi
FORMOLO Davide
And PAOLINI Luca.... He snuck in there.... Cheeky wee bugger
And snuck back out again!!!
Post by: just some guy on April 27, 2014, 05:45
MARKUS Barry
DOCKER Mitchell
GERDEMANN Linus
not much there
Tour de Romandie
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
ATAPUMA John Darwin
BASSO Ivan
MOSER Moreno
MORTON Lachlan
SCHLECK Andy
or there :D
Post by: Leadbelly on April 27, 2014, 17:04
Still, he's got Romandie (though he says he's winding down now) this week and then presumably the Dauphine, Polish Nats, TdF and TdP (which he's said he wants to ride) with who knows what after that - Quebec, Montreal and the Worlds?
1800+ would be a good score.
Post by: froome19 on April 27, 2014, 20:10
Kwiatkowski into profit, though his Ardennes campaign hasn't quite lived up to my hopes. 5th, 3rd and 3rd doesn't look too bad, but you really need a first to get those big points.You are getting greedy Leadbelly.. us paupers are stuck wondering if Betancur will actually choose to start a race in the near future :(
Still, he's got Romandie (though he says he's winding down now) this week and then presumably the Dauphine, Polish Nats, TdF and TdP (which he's said he wants to ride) with who knows what after that - Quebec, Montreal and the Worlds?
1800+ would be a good score.
In other news, all those with Gerrans (me excluded) should be pretty satisfied. :fp
Post by: Trudgin on April 27, 2014, 22:42
Romandie
KESSIAKOFF Frederik
MOSER Moreno
LECUISINIER Pierre Henri
URAN Rigoberto
POLJANSKI Pawel
DILLIER Silvain
Moser? Hopefully on form.... Or Uran
Post by: mc_mountain on April 28, 2014, 18:54
Liège - Bastogne - Liège
ATAPUMA John Darwin
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
CLARKE Simon
GERRANS Simon
ROLLAND Pierre
SCHLECK Andy
LöFKVIST Thomas
Not looking super strong
pretty good update for jsg coming up
Post by: just some guy on April 29, 2014, 08:43
baby bath water time soon , I want the update :lol
Post by: mc_mountain on April 29, 2014, 11:11
Quote from: Hugo Koblet
Update #16: (not) just some guy on the move!
The Ardennes are over. Finally some might say, as it was quite a boring edition this year. Boring was the impact it had on the game this week not, though.
His name might be "just some guy", but beware because he might not be just some guy this game, as he's this week's top scorer, assembling a wooping 888 points mainly thanks to Evans and Gerrans but with some help from Aru, Bennett and Duarte among others as well.
knallertjeblaf continues his Ardennes run, ranking fourth this week. Another team to watch out for is last year's second place finisher, Geraint Too Fast, who top 3's this week.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. just some guy - 888
2. Jakob747 - 781
3. Geraint Too Fast - 770
4. knallertjeblaf - 763
5. MADRAZO - 759
Two teams are to be found in both weekly lists, MADRAZO and Jakob747, but it's jeroenk who takes the honor of being this week's high jumper, as he moves up 36 places to 33rd place overall. None of the high jumpers this week are among our leaders with MADRAZO placed highest in 25th place.
This Week's High Jumpers
1. jeroenk +36
2. MADRAZO +35
3. Jakob747 +31
4. archieboy +28
5. 18-Valve. (pithy) +25
In the top 10, Pentacycle defends his first place but loses almost 200 points to freshman who's closing in on the prestigous placing. Geraint Too Fast has really turned on his engine as he enters top 3 while just some guy takes a big jump from 20th to 8th. knallertjeblaf continues his rise, this week jumping 6 places into 7th. Out of the top 10 goes EvansIsTheBest and last year's winner, SteelyDan.
Top 10
1. (-) Pentacycle - 5651
2. (-) freshman - 5583
3. (+2) Geraint Too Fast - 5387
4. (-) rywann - 5348
5. (-2) Martin - 5260
6. (+2) Ruvu75 - 5163
7. (+6) knallertjeblaf - 5063
8. (+12) just some guy - 5048
9. (-2) Grimm - 4996
10. (+1) Reno - 4962
Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvw3ciom6700c5i/CQ+2014+update+16.xls (http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvw3ciom6700c5i/CQ+2014+update+16.xls)
Post by: just some guy on April 29, 2014, 11:47
Post by: Leadbelly on May 02, 2014, 10:23
Post by: just some guy on May 02, 2014, 10:47
Post by: just some guy on May 06, 2014, 13:23
4 Jours de Dunkerque
Yoann OFFREDO
Sam BENNETT
Tour d\'Azerbaïdjan
Linus GERDEMANN
William CLARKE
Benjamin JOHNSON
Giro
Fabio ARU
Steven KRUIJSWIJK
Cadel EVANS
Ivan BASSO
Moreno MOSER
Fabio DUARTE
Winner ANACONA
Mitchell DOCKER
Pierre ROLLAND
Robert KISERLOVSKI
Tour of Cali
Taylor PHINNEY
Lachlan MORTON
Johan Esteban CHAVES
Mathew HAYMAN
Post by: oliveira on May 06, 2014, 18:33
ARU Fabio
BRAJKOVIč Janez
BELLETTI Manuel
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BATTAGLIN Enrico
MOSER Moreno
HESJEDAL Ryder
ANACONA Winner
URAN Rigoberto
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
SWIFT Ben
NIZZOLO Giacomo
Strong team on paper, let's see what happens.
Post by: Trudgin on May 06, 2014, 23:07
AGNOLI Valerio
GATTO Oscar
HANSEN Adam
TIRALONGO Paolo
QUINZIATO Manuel
MOSER Moreno
PAOLINI Luca
CATTANEO Mattia
URAN URAN Rigaberto
HENAO MARIN Sebastian
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
POLJANSKI Pawel
4 days of Dunkirk
DEBRSAY ABRHA Frekalsi
KOWALSKI Rudy
ATOC
SAGAN Peter
BOONEN Tom
VELITS Martin
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
That is all
'Mon the beards
Post by: mc_mountain on May 08, 2014, 17:59
Quote from: Hugo Koblet
Update #17: We've got a new sheriff in town!
Better late than never they say, right? Well, I was quite busy this week and completely forgot about the update, so here it is - a few days late.
Armchair cyclist is this week's top scorer with a lot of points from the Tour of Turkey thanks to Taaramäe and Yates. The Hitch and mc_mountain share second place, while Lightbing and bicing rounds of the top 5.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Armchair cyclist - 679
2. The Hitch - 596
2. mc_mountain - 596
4. LightBing - 576
5. bicing - 568
Lightbing and bicing are also both to be found on this week's high jumpers list, moving up 26 and 21 places, but it's Manafana who takes the honor this week, just edging out Lightbing. Yours truly and tomazo round off the top 5.
This Week's High Jumpers
1. Manafana (+27)
2. LightBing (+26)
3. bicing (+21)
4. Hugo Koblet (+19)
4. tomazo (+19)
And now to this new sheriff stuff. freshman overtakes Pentacycle for the prestigious leader spot, as he leads by 63 points. EvansIsTheBest makes his way back into the top 10 while Ferminal takes a big jump from 18th to 10th, while just some guy and Reno makes way.
Top 10
1. (+1) freshman - 5885
2. (-1) Pentacycle - 5822
3. (-) Geraint Too Fast - 5584
4. (-) rywann - 5527
5. (+2) knallertjeblaf - 5468
6. (-1) Martin - 5420
7. (+4) EvansIsTheBest - 5373
7. (-1) Ruvu75 - 5373
9. (-) Grimm - 5238
10. (+8) Ferminal - 5147
And let's take a look at the monthly figues. April was a month of many points. If you have any doubts, just ask our leader freshman, who's the top scorer this month, earning an enormous 2613 points. knallertjeblaf, rywann and Grimm are also among the top 5 earnes this month and they are all to be found in the overall top 10. The only one from this month's top scorers list who's not among the 10 best teams overall is will10 who's currently in 26th place.
This Month's Top scorers
1. freshman - 2613
2. knallertjeblaf - 2542
3. rywann - 2371
4. will10 - 2318
5. Grimm - 2300
will10 is, however, making his way towards the top, as he's also among the top 5 jumpers in April, moving up from 79th to 26th place. Handbrake has released the handbrake, moving up 60 spots, but he still has a long way to go, currently sitting in 56th place.
This Month's High Jumpers
1. Handbrake (+60)
2. Crevaison (+56)
3. will10 (+53)
4. HelgeBlendet (+51)
5. WonderLance (+48)
Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/2h0nqrun96kh9gh/CQ+2014+update+17.xls (http://www.mediafire.com/download/2h0nqrun96kh9gh/CQ+2014+update+17.xls)
Post by: KeithJamesMc on May 09, 2014, 12:40
https://twitter.com/inrng/statuses/464730459269001216
...hope he has a good retirement and life
Post by: mc_mountain on May 15, 2014, 18:50
(insgve was due to do the next few updates but seems he hasnt seen my reminders)
None of the top 5 scoring riders this week where selected more than 6 times, and of the top 20 only Swift (23 picks, 43 points) and Di Gregorio (23 picks, 30 points) were in double figures for times picked. Demare defends all but 25 of his points from 4 Days of Dunkirk scoring 245, and with his better showing in the Spring this year looks set for a profitable year for Nicosix and Somar13. These two teams head the weekly scores, Somar13 with 42 points from unique choice Bole, not enough to compete with Nicosix's haul from several riders Evansisthebest matches two young riders Herklotz (66 points, unique) and Senchal (73 points, 3 picks) and a few others for 3rd. The two teams with Kittel make up 4th and 5th on the weekly scoring.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Nicosix 349
2. Somar13 303
3. EvansIsTheBest 216
4. coinneach 201
5. bicing 196
4 of the same names appear in the jumpers list, with martinaagard, one of only 6 teams with Michael Valgren Anderson who scored 115 points from his fine showing in 4 Days of Dunkirk, amking up the top 5.
This Week's High Jumpers
1. Nicosix (+22)
2. bicing (+15)
3. coinneach (+13)
3. Somar13 (+13)
5. martinaagard (+12)
Evansisthebest's absence from the high jumpers list is understandable considering his proximity to the top of the table, he does move up 2 spots into 5th though with lenissart jumping 3 places to take over from Ferminal in 10th place.
Top 10 Overall
1. (-) freshman 5993
2. (-) Pentacycle 5912
3. (-) Geraint Too Fast 5692
4. (-) rywann 5616
5. (+2) EvansIsTheBest 5589
6. (-1) knallertjeblaf 5534
7. (-1) Martin 5474
8. (-1) Ruvu75 5436
9. (-) Grimm 5313
10. (+3) lenissart 5210
Spreadsheet at Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/fg3lb9x3kujppne/CQ%202014%20update%2018.xls)
(Hopefully will be back on track with insgve from Monday/Tuesday.)
Rankings in Full
Post by: LukasCPH on May 15, 2014, 19:01
Post by: Leadbelly on May 15, 2014, 19:04
California's looking a bit better though and hopefully Capt. Uranium will be able to hold onto his good GC position in Italy to give some big points in two and a half weeks time.
Post by: Flo on May 15, 2014, 19:09
Down another two places. Can I go up maybe perhaps please? :(
Post by: mc_mountain on May 15, 2014, 19:15
Well I'm glad I wasn't the only one who had a quiet week.
California's looking a bit better though and hopefully Capt. Uranium will be able to hold onto his good GC position in Italy to give some big points in two and a half weeks time.
Uran also needs to get some stage points too, will be difficult to replicate his stage win last year, but some 2nds and 3rds and I reckon he probably has a shot at the uphill TT.
Post by: just some guy on May 18, 2014, 07:07
Moser :hb :fp
but another good week with Evans, Will Clarke , Chaves, Phinney plus a few other podium places
Post by: Flo on May 18, 2014, 20:19
Post by: just some guy on May 21, 2014, 05:42
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Update #19: Wiggins pays off
First of all I want to point out that the updates during my weeks in charge here might be a bit unreliable in time. When I agreed to help out with the updates back in November it was impossible to know how other things might interfere with the updates. Last week I was away on business until friday which is why mc_mountain steppen in to do the update. This week I have had some problem with the spreadsheet since I don't have Office and Libreoffice for some reason doesn't like the spreadsheet when you try to do the updates.
As for this weeks results it seems that Wiggins and the Tour of California results are the main factor for changes.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Hilltopfinisher 685
2. Armchair cyclist 665
3. GP Blanco 661
4. Bellsax 649
5. Manafana 631
This Week's High Jumpers
1. Armchair Cyclist (+30)
1. GP Blanco (+30)
3. hilltopfinisher (+25)
3. Bellsax (+25)
5. Jakob747 (+23)
Both the top scorers and top movers are mostly the same teams and the common denominator is Bradley Wiggins who is starting to pay off a little for those who still believed in the guy. Rohan Dennis is also among the top scorers of the week and a combo a Wiggins and Dennis was good this week and some even added Evans or Craddock to the mix.
Top 10 Overall
1, (-) freshman 6255
2, (-) Pentacycle 6180
3, (+3) knallertjeblaf 5822
4, (-) rywann 5801
5, (-2) Geraint Too Fast 5777
6, (+2) Ruvu75 5694
7, (-2) EvansIsTheBest 5687
8, (+3) Ferminal 5668
9, (-2) Martin 5655
10, (-) lenissart 5649
In the top 10 knallertjeblaf moves up to the top 3 by being one of only two teams in the top 10 to have Evans. Ferminal is the other and having Evans along with Dennis moves the team into the top 10 this week.
drop box (https://www.dropbox.com/s/jy994vatn5gywam/CQ%202014%20update%2019.xls)
Post by: Leadbelly on May 22, 2014, 17:38
First for Rigo (okay lots of people have him too) and the pink jersey points, then another first in Norway for De Maar and a second for Magic.
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/banana-riding-llama-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)
Post by: just some guy on May 24, 2014, 21:48
does that not score points ?
Post by: Leadbelly on May 24, 2014, 22:10
Post by: just some guy on May 25, 2014, 07:17
It does score points. 50 for the winner.
saw that it just popped in ;)
50 for team JSG and still 5 in the top 11 at the Giro GC :D
Post by: oliveira on May 25, 2014, 18:02
Lot of points next week with Giro's GC, Bayern, Belgium Tour, Fjords and Estonia.
Baloise Belgium Tour
GUARDINI Andrea
Bayern Rundfahrt
GERDEMANN Linus
DOMBROWSKI Joe
KENNAUGH Peter
SANCHEZ Luis Leon
Tour des Fjords
KREDER Michel
Tour of Estonia
PATERSKI Maciej
Post by: mc_mountain on May 25, 2014, 18:08
Should be a satisfying update in the Youth game for you too.
Post by: oliveira on May 25, 2014, 18:37
Should be a satisfying update in the Youth game for you too.
Was tracking Bonifazio exploits in Japan but overlooking Foliforov at Isard!
Post by: Leadbelly on May 27, 2014, 09:11
Quote from: ingsve
Update #20: Giro dominating the week
We're in the middle of the Giro with just a few smaller side events so it's natural that the Giro is the main predictor of points this week. Uran is looking better and better for people who have him and he of course influenced this weeks scores. Outside the Giro Maciej Paterskis win in Norway gives good fortune to karlboss, Leadbelly and Oliveira who are the one ones to pick him. Marc de Maar, Grega Bole and Ramon Sinkeldam are high scoring unique picks for the week.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Oliveira 599
2. Leadbelly 527
3. asdfgh101 512
4. Ludwigzgz 501
5. Slow_Rider 442
This Week's High Jumpers
1. Oliveira (+24)
2. Leadbelly (+20)
3. Ludwigzgz (+18)
4. asdfgh101 (+17)
5. Fus87 (+16)
Getting in the top scorers this week comes off of the combination of Uran, Paterski and Battaglin. Well done. A longer list would have also found yours truly on 16th place and 9th top mover. A decent week in a bad year for me.
Top 10 Overall
1, (-) freshman 6488
2, (-) Pentacycle 6325
3, (+1) rywann 6144
4, (+1) Geraint Too Fast 5988
5, (-2) knallertjeblaf 5978
5, (+5) lenissart 5978
7, (-1) Ruvu75 5912
8, (-) Ferminal 5882
9, (+3) Cykeltyven 5879
10, (+1) just some guy 5850
In the top 10 the big mover is lenissart who gains 5 places with a week led by Battaglin with Fabio Aru helping out a bit which might be a sign of things to come when the Giro is summarized next week. Another mover is Cykeltyven who enters the top 10 while EvansIsTheBest drops 6 places to fall out of the top 10.
Spreadsheet at Mediafire (https://www.mediafire.com/?cxau2z11zcbmg62)
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!
:omg :ohno: :-e :we all gonna die:
Post by: just some guy on May 27, 2014, 09:17
Arbs :angry haha
anyways if Uran could do the right thing and get a DNF at the Giro and I should be movin on up.
Post by: Arb on May 27, 2014, 09:19
Post by: Trudgin on May 30, 2014, 09:57
Post by: Arb on May 30, 2014, 10:22
Post by: Flo on May 30, 2014, 10:50
Post by: LukasCPH on May 30, 2014, 19:21
I did for the emerging rider game :coolI didn't. :fp :hb
And I've actually met him, and seen what he can do, and everything. Major fail on my behalf, that. :angry
Post by: just some guy on June 01, 2014, 20:53
might be average of course but show me the points
Post by: oliveira on June 01, 2014, 22:11
For the Giro!
ARU Fabio
BRAJKOVIč Janez
BELLETTI Manuel
HOOGERLAND Johnny
BATTAGLIN Enrico
MOSER Moreno
HESJEDAL Ryder
ANACONA Winner
URAN Rigoberto
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
SWIFT Ben
NIZZOLO Giacomo
Strong team on paper, let's see what happens.
1766 points so it was a good Giro. :cool
Post by: mc_mountain on June 01, 2014, 22:25
1766 points so it was a good Giro. :cool
I think you'll be in or on the very edge of the top 10 in the rankings.
Post by: oliveira on June 01, 2014, 23:01
Post by: Flo on June 02, 2014, 08:45
Post Merge: June 02, 2014, 08:46
I need Bertie back in competition to score big points again :cool
Post by: just some guy on June 02, 2014, 08:50
ie flo 1137 is that for this week or the whole 3 weeks?
Post by: Flo on June 02, 2014, 10:34
Can I ask a stupid question do points from a GT get added at the end of the 3 weeks or each week.
ie flo 1137 is that for this week or the whole 3 weeks?
This week.
I think they get added each week, I got 70 points for Aru and a 100 something for Uran last week.
Post by: mc_mountain on June 02, 2014, 10:40
Can I ask a stupid question do points from a GT get added at the end of the 3 weeks or each week.
ie flo 1137 is that for this week or the whole 3 weeks?
Flo's tally is for the week, ie the stages this week and the GC etc (plus other races this week).
i've got you up to about 6th, will be a couple of teams close to 2000 points in the update, and a couple of teams into profit.
Post by: just some guy on June 02, 2014, 10:43
close to 2000 points wow.
I knew I had a good week, but 2000 points for some wowsers must be a single week record
Post by: mc_mountain on June 02, 2014, 10:46
Uth on the leaders or 6th for the week :D
close to 2000 points wow.
I knew I had a good week, but 2000 points for some wowsers must be a single week record
6th in the overall - very provisionally though.
Post by: Arb on June 02, 2014, 12:56
Lots of teams up front have Velasco so Richie better deliver next week.
Post by: oliveira on June 02, 2014, 14:05
Can I ask a stupid question do points from a GT get added at the end of the 3 weeks or each week.
ie flo 1137 is that for this week or the whole 3 weeks?
Mine 1766 are for the whole Giro, so a big chunk of them were already counted in.
Post by: just some guy on June 02, 2014, 14:28
hoping Evans rides Suisse ftw and all Giro ridr the Veulta
Post by: mc_mountain on June 02, 2014, 22:56
Quote from: ingsve
Update #21: Big swings
So what's there to say other than the Giro being a big watershed race. Either you had it or you didn't pretty much sums this up. Some huge leaps this week in both directions. fauniera gaining 71 places in a single week and Skippy the bush Kangaroo drops 54 places.
Without going back to check the history of the game my guess is that this might have been one of the highest scoring weeks of the entire history of the game. Ben1376, fauniera and Milanello all managed to get the entire Giro podium but more importantly LOTS of teams managed to get two out of three of the Giro podium and very few didn't have a single one.
We also have our first teams to make it into a profit for the year. Geraint Too Fast and Milanello are the ones to first surpass their teams cost this year. he way this game has developed since the first year when I won it is staggering. Now it's a rule rather than an exception that most teams probably will reach the breakeven point at least. There will always be some exceptions but by an large people have picked up very well on how the fundamentals of this game play out. That certainly wasn't the case in the first year of this game. Back then you could tell just by looking at a team that it wouldn't stand a chance. Now it's much harder to predict how a team will fair overall.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Ben1376 2146
2. fauniera 2101
3. Milanello 1930
4. highoctane 1885
5. Slow_Rider 1875
This Week's High Jumpers
1. fauniera (+71)
2. Ben1376 (+66)
3. Slow_Rider (+61)
4. highoctane (+53)
5. Tuarts (+51)
This Month's Top Scorers
1. fauniera 2927
2. Ben1376 2632
3. Milanello 2569
4. Tuarts 2551
5. asdfgh101 2540
5. PeterB 2540
This Month's High Jumpers
1. fauniera (+84)
2. asdfgh101 (+59)
3. Tuarts (+58)
3. Slow_Rider (+58)
5. CraZyCaLL (+53)
5. Ben1376 (+53)
Top of the week and top of the month. The clear winner of the month is fauniera who climbs 84 places moving from 119th to 34th place. Uran and Aru were popular picks but some people also believed in Quintana and that certainly payed off this week. I'm still not convinced that Quintana is a good pick overall but I guess he's better than having picked an expensive riders that are struggling to earn back their cost.
Top 10 Overall
1. (+3) Geraint Too Fast 7788
2. (+10) Milanello 7677
3. (-2) freshman 7412
4. (+18) MCardinalR 7380
5. (-2) rywann 7374
6. (+4) just some guy 7280
7. (+2) Cykeltyven 7124
8. (+8) Oliveira 7015
9. (-1) Ferminal 7003
10. (+11) *Falze* 6978
Lots of things happening in the top 10 of course after a week like this. Milanello, MCardinalR, Oliveira and *Falze* are new to the top 10 which sees Geraint Too Fast grab the lead at this point. Let's see if the team can stick at it and give us just as an exciting race for the win as last year.
And that's all for my weeks doing the updates. Good luck to each and every one of you for the rest of the year.
Spreadsheet at Mediafire (https://www.mediafire.com/?2b3r7bxrv888cy2)
Post by: Leadbelly on June 03, 2014, 11:30
Nine riders into profit which is nice. The only downside is that the chances of me being able to afford them in next year's competition are now slim to none (and Slim just left town). So no De Maar, Kwiatek, Sonny or The Postman next time I'm guessing. :we all gonna die:
On the other hand I have fifteen riders who are below 50% of what they cost. Most of them didn't cost much and one decent race might get them close to profit, so I'm not too bothered about them, but there are three main offenders.
EBH - Not looking good for Eddy. Probably will get more point scoring opportunities if he avoids the TdF and has a good run at Eneco, GP Plouay, Montreal and Quebec. Fingers crossed.
Konig - Should be okay for Leopold as long as he stays injury/niggle free. Top tens at Dauphine and TdF hopefully, and some bits and bobs elsewhere should see him home.
Chernetskiy - My "make up the total points to 7500" pick. I'm hoping Purito decides to do the TdF and Sergei is the one to miss out otherwise I could be taking a big hit here. Much better chance of points to be made in Austria and Poland.
Post by: KeithJamesMc on June 03, 2014, 11:58
Mind you, still beating Flo, Search, AG, Froome and the Velorooms collective so life is not completely over ;)
However, it looks like Hitch is out of sight ;-(
Post by: Flo on June 03, 2014, 12:22
994 points and still dropped 9 places ;)
Mind you, still beating Flo, Search, AG, Froome and the Velorooms collective so life is not completely over ;)
However, it looks like Hitch is out of sight ;-(
+11 for me :)
Post by: Leadbelly on June 03, 2014, 13:02
Post by: Flo on June 03, 2014, 13:03
Yeah, what happened to the VR collective team. I'm sure it was top-10 a while back and now it's even below me. :o
We did not pick Alberto ;) ;) ;)
I think the problem is that our two top picks aren't performing.
PS: Uran already into profit :o
Post by: Leadbelly on June 03, 2014, 13:08
Post by: Flo on June 03, 2014, 13:13
..and Phinney and Stannard possibly out for the season. Things not looking too rosy for the team.
Good point(s). Forgot about those two.
Post by: just some guy on June 04, 2014, 08:26
| just some guy | 2013 Results | 2014 Results | Profit |
|---|---|---|---|
| EVANS Cadel | 758 | 1055 | 297 |
| GERRANS Simon | 511 | 904 | 393 |
| VANMARCKE Sep | 491 | 606 | 115 |
| PHINNEY Taylor | 475 | 320 | -155 |
| KÖNIG Leopold | 411 | 119 | -292 |
| ROLLAND Pierre | 403 | 368 | -35 |
| BASSO Ivan | 380 | 128 | -252 |
| KISERLOVSKI Robert | 371 | 369 | -2 |
| ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin | 362 | 76 | -286 |
| MOSER Moreno | 353 | 34 | -319 |
| VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen | 341 | 66 | -275 |
| OFFREDO Yoann | 295 | 100 | -195 |
| ARU Fabio | 262 | 522 | 260 |
| NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas | 242 | 238 | -4 |
| CLARKE Simon | 227 | 251 | 24 |
| MARKUS Barry | 209 | 89 | -120 |
| LÖFKVIST Thomas | 193 | 32 | -161 |
| HAYMAN Mathew | 178 | 27 | -151 |
| MORTON Lachlan | 159 | 0 | -159 |
| BOONEN Tom | 139 | 639 | 500 |
| KRUIJSWIJK Steven | 125 | 62 | -63 |
| BENNETT Sam | 121 | 373 | 252 |
| DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres | 119 | 279 | 160 |
| EWAN Caleb | 110 | 22 | -88 |
| SCHLECK Andy | 99 | 10 | -89 |
| DOCKER Mitchell | 54 | 48 | -6 |
| CLARKE William | 46 | 151 | 105 |
| KESSIAKOFF Fredrik | 42 | 10 | -32 |
| ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew | 20 | 100 | 80 |
| GERDEMANN Linus | 0 | 96 | 96 |
| CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban | 0 | 186 | 186 |
| AUGUSTYN John-Lee | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| JOHNSON Benjamin | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Total 7496 7280 -216 |
ok thought I would have a look after the Giro, espeically as I think the JSG slide is about to start. But week 21 update got to be happy with where I am
I like all teams have some major issues
Phinney I guess rides the Vuelta and WC ITT so might break even
König needs a top 10 at the TDF and a good lead up race to be a good solid pick , hope the knees are up for it
El Puma -might be a good pick for next year at this stage after a good start to the year see how we go
Moser at 34 points - bad very abd year will be a good pick for the 2015 game
JVDB his year has always been and will always be the next 2 months see how we go
Offredo - reups for team JSG at a lower score again :lol
Basso - Glue factory
Lövquist next 2 months are important
Barry - sad to see should be a reup
Haymen- not what Ie expected but it was always spring and luck
Morton still on 0 and one of 3 riders on my team still yet to score
Steven K - I hope he rides some summer races and the Vuelta could still do well this year
Andy scored 10 points where did they come from
Evans already over the 1000 points I expected talk of the Vuelta and worlds could be a very good pick
Gerro - a stage win and maybe a few days in #yellow and a great pick for the game
Sep - plus 116 and will pick up points all year
Rolland will end up a solid pick after a great Giro
Kiseralovski -no idea what the race program is but will a goodpick I think
Aru -gold and going to the Vuelta
Honey and Badger and S Clarke -should get a couple of hundred more I wonder if Simon gets a GC go at the TDF ?
Boonen - solid but lots had him
Chaves - gold
Linus- looks very good and the Vuelta as target
and postman Sam - why I do not have him in all teams no idea -
still with a lot of Meh picks but team wise very happy
Post by: Arb on June 04, 2014, 12:51
Post by: search on June 04, 2014, 12:53
Post by: just some guy on June 04, 2014, 15:22
Yeh sorry to break it to you jsg but these two weeks are the last you will be ahead of me this season. Need Jurgs to get a random 5th in July, Gerro to win the Worlds and Steven K to win the Vuelta.
I think so too Arbs :D
Post by: Flo on June 08, 2014, 18:30
Post by: just some guy on June 10, 2014, 10:56
Yeh sorry to break it to you jsg but these two weeks are the last you will be ahead of me this season. Need Jurgs to get a random 5th in July, Gerro to win the Worlds and Steven K to win the Vuelta.when you wrote this the most unlikely was JVDB random top 5
funny what a few days does :lol
Post by: Trudgin on June 11, 2014, 06:03
Tour de Suisse
AGNOLI
KESSIAKOFF
TIRALONGO
SAGAN
BARGUIL
ISAYCHEV
CATTANEO
BOONEN
CHAVES RUBIO
BENNATI
YOUNG GUNS
DILLIER
BETTIOL
FORMOLO
Post by: mc_mountain on June 11, 2014, 10:41
Quote from: TeoSheva
Update #22: Minor changes
After so many changes happened the last week, we are in a relaxing week with few points distributed. The big name of the week is Breschel that, thanks to the win at the tour of Luxembourg, has allowed the only two teams that have bet on him to get the first and the second place of the week: martinaagard and tanja. Somar13, Nicosix and Team_Roubaix are completing the top 5 of the week.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 martinaagard 398
2 tanja 331
3 Somar13 219
4 Nicosix 200
5 Team_Roubaix 199
This Week's High Jumpers
1 tanja (+13)
2 EvansIsTheBest (+9)
3 TeoSheva (+8)
3 vladimir (+8)
5 skidmark (+7)
5 martinaagard (+7)
5 Eric8_A (+7)
5 Somar13 (+7)
5 VeloRooms (+7)
Tanja is also the higher jumper of the week with a +13, followed by EvansIsTheBest, Teosheva and Vladimir.
Top 10 Overall
1 (-) Geraint Too Fast 7798
2 (-) Milanello 7755
3 (-) freshman 7496
4 (-) MCardinalR 7454
5 (-) rywann 7429
6 (-) just some guy 7290
7 (-) Cykeltyven 7185
8 (+1) Ferminal 7086
9 (+4) knallertjeblaf 7078
10 (-2) Oliveira 7058
In the top 10 Overall, there are no changes in the firsts seven position, but Feminal has gained one position till the eighth, while Oliveira has lost two position and now is the 10th. A new entry in the top ten: knallertjeblaf with is +4 reaches the 9th position, while Falze greets the top10.
Spreadsheet at Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/elvjptsovwkpsth/CQ+2014+update+22.xls)
Post by: Flo on June 15, 2014, 19:02
Post by: just some guy on June 15, 2014, 19:09
JVDB go you good thing :lol
Post by: Flo on June 19, 2014, 07:54
We are at the week of the Delfinato and the weekly rank is dominated by mc_mountain that has the whole podium (Talansky, Contador and Van Den Broeck) plus the 6th (A. Yates). At the second place there is Armchair Cyclist with the same riders but Keelderman for Contador. The top 5 is completed by teams that have three of these four riders.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 mc_mountain 920
2 Armchair cyclist 870
3 Object 852
4 greenedge 781
5 Team_Roubaix 776
This Week's High Jumpers
1 Object (+33) 33
2 Armchair cyclist (+31) 16
3 greenedge (+30) 26
3 mc_mountain (+30) 79
5 Team_Roubaix (+27) 52
The top 5 of the week has the same teams of the top 5 high jumpers, but in different order.
Top 10 Overall
1 (-) Geraint Too Fast 8158
2 (-) Milanello 8041
3 (+1) MCardinalR 8015
4 (-1) freshman 7853
5 (+2) Cykeltyven 7838
6 (-1) rywann 7738
7 (+8) Pentacycle 7618
8 (+4) The Hitch 7597
9 (-3) just some guy 7574
10 (-) Oliveira 7567
Quite a lot of changes in the overall top 10. Geraint too fast has gained something on Milanello, that now is under the gun of MCardinalR. -1 position for freshman and ryann, -3 for just some guy, and two new entries: Pentacycle and The Hitch. Out of the top 10 Feminal and, again, knallertjeblaf.
Spreadsheet at Mediafire (https://www.mediafire.com/?5jdhiwmzkjjs8rz)
Post by: just some guy on June 19, 2014, 08:18
got to be happy with that Suisse and JVDB are the keys to a sucess at the end of the year, ie top 10
not sure it will happen but there you go
Post by: Flo on June 19, 2014, 08:20
Post by: Trudgin on June 19, 2014, 20:05
Paolini
Mohoric
Villella
Route du Sud
Juul-Jensen
Venturini
Paillot
Post by: Arb on June 22, 2014, 09:20
Post by: Flo on June 22, 2014, 15:44
S Yates 40 points :)
Post by: Flo on June 22, 2014, 16:20
Wellens 80 points :)
S Yates 40 points :)
And Rabottini 66 points :o :)
Happy camper :win
Post by: Flo on June 25, 2014, 21:54
Quote from: TeoSheva
Update #24: Few points from the Tour de Suisse
The main race of the week has been the Tour de Suisse, but not so many points were assigned thanks to that race. Wonderlance wins the week but thanks to the popular Gilbert and the rare Tom Doumulin. At the second place we have HelgeBlendet that has a really good pick like Formolo. At the lowest place of the podium there is Grimm that has Sagan which scores always good point in Switzerland.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 WonderLance 566
2 HelgeBlendet 487
3 Grimm 486
4 Yellow Knight 446
5 tomazo 435
This Week's High Jumpers
1 WonderLance (+24)
2 Grimm (+17)
3 the_fool_on_the_hill (+15)
4 vladimir (+13)
5 HelgeBlendet (+12)
Wonderlance is even at the top of the high jumpers and as well we find Grimm and HelgeBlendet, plus the_fool_on_the_hill and vladimir.
Top 10 Overall
1 (-) Geraint Too Fast 8215 57
2 (+2) freshman 8197 344
3 (-) MCardinalR 8164 149
4 (-2) Milanello 8144 103
5 (+2) Pentacycle 7998 380
6 (-1) Cykeltyven 7960 122
7 (-1) rywann 7927 189
8 (+3) minessa 7806 279
9 (-) just some guy 7800 226
10 (-2) The Hitch 7765 168
The top10 is really short so we have often a lot of changes. Freshman is really close to the leader Geraint Too Fast. Milanello has lost two positions, like The Hitch. A new entry this week: minessa that make a +3, while Oliveira is out of the top 10.
Spreadsheet at Mediafire (https://www.mediafire.com/?5qmxlj5ogwb3z98)
Post by: Flo on June 25, 2014, 21:54
Post by: LukasCPH on June 25, 2014, 22:08
34th out of 150, that's quite alright for a CQ Game neo-pro. ;)
Post by: just some guy on June 26, 2014, 09:41
anyone seen Arbs trolololtroloo
Post by: Leadbelly on June 26, 2014, 10:49
Thought I'd do some post-Giro thoughts about my team.
EBH - Not looking good for Eddy. Probably will get more point scoring opportunities if he avoids the TdF and has a good run at Eneco, GP Plouay, Montreal and Quebec. Fingers crossed.
Chernetskiy - My "make up the total points to 7500" pick. I'm hoping Purito decides to do the TdF and Sergei is the one to miss out otherwise I could be taking a big hit here. Much better chance of points to be made in Austria and Poland.
Looks like I get my wish about Chernetskiy not going to the TdF. :cool
Eddy however could be a lost cause. He'll have to make a speedy recovery from this achilles injury and then hit those races I mentioned above. Fingers and now toes crossed.
Post by: Flo on June 28, 2014, 17:34
Now at 400 points, more than double his 2013 score ;) he is my most unique rider, only 2 others have him in their team :o
Post by: just some guy on June 28, 2014, 17:35
Nava won the ITT and that is about it :(
Post by: Arb on June 29, 2014, 03:26
Sweet still in the top 10,
anyone seen Arbs trolololtroloo
Formololololol
Post by: Flo on June 29, 2014, 13:20
Post by: Flo on June 29, 2014, 17:44
Rabottini 72 points
Boaro 27 points
Kennaugh 100 points
Lulu 62 points
Sütterlin 36 + 21 points
Simon Yates 50 points
Boonen 50 points
Stybar 60 points
:betting
Post by: LaVelocipede on June 29, 2014, 23:28
Post by: froome19 on June 29, 2014, 23:44
Only joined recently; can I enter for the Tour?Hi LaVelocipede :welcome
Hope you enjoy your time on Velorooms.
This game is unfortunately a year round game which requires one submission right at the beginning of the year...
However, the good news is that there is a version of this game which is purely based around the Tour. Details are here: http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=5858.0
Post by: mc_mountain on July 01, 2014, 12:56
Nice weekend
Rabottini 72 points
Boaro 27 points
Kennaugh 100 points
Lulu 62 points
Sütterlin 36 + 21 points
Simon Yates 50 points
Boonen 50 points
Stybar 60 points
:betting
Very good chance you will top the weekly ranking in this and the youth game :cool
Post by: Flo on July 01, 2014, 13:02
Very good chance you will top the weekly ranking in this and the youth game :cool
:o :)
Post by: just some guy on July 06, 2014, 07:08
With TeoSheva busy at the moment, I will do the update this week. Better get used to it since I will cover the Tour de France too. The week during which are held most national championships is probably the week when the most races awarding CQ points are ridden. This mean that many team scored through a number of different riders, while no one rider really stood out. Somar13 is this week top scorer, relying mainly on Démare, Kennaugh, Bole and Keizer for the point scoring. Nicosix main point scorer was also Démare while Londonpat and Slow_rider's main man was Langeveld. Izaguirre was a rare pick that pushed Afrank up to 5th on the list.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 Somar13 684
2 Slow_Rider 627
3 Nicosix 616
4 Londonpat 581
5 Afrank 559
As it so often is the case, the week high jumpers list is dominated by the week's top scorer. Somar13 leads both lists, improving by no less than 24 places. In fact, 4 of the 5 high jumpers already featured on the week's top scorer list. The only 'intruder' is LaFlorecita, which was actually the 7th best scorer this week. She scored 545 points from a variety of riders, Kennaugh being her best rider of the week with a big round 100 points.
This Week's High Jumpers
1 Somar13 (+24)
2 Slow_Rider (+17)
3 Londonpat (+14)
4 Afrank (+13)
5 LaFlorecita (+13)
The top 10 teams were pretty quiet this week, not scoring much. Enough was scored for one major change though. freshman wrestles the lead from Geraint Too Fast for a mere 4 points. With MCardinalR and Milanello hovering very close, the game is delicately balance before this small bike race in France you may or may not have heard about. minessa and just some guy leave the top 10 making way to Oliveira and Ferminal.
Top 10 Overall
1 freshman 8484
2 Geraint Too Fast 8480
3 MCardinalR 8403
4 Milanello 8402
5 Pentacycle 8298
6 Cykeltyven 8263
7 rywann 8242
8 The Hitch 8069
9 Oliveira 8054
10 Ferminal 8031
download (http://www.mediafire.com/download/e6ho6a6oa3jomql/CQ+2014+update+25.xls)
Evansisthebest on CN
Can not believe I cop this as my free fall starts :D
Post by: just some guy on July 09, 2014, 05:17
With the Tour de France having just gotten underway and the Tour of Austria in its early stages too, it has been a pretty low key week for most. However with popular picks (Dayer Quintana, Peter Kennaugh) going strong in Austria, the next update promises to be more exciting. The two teams with Kittel unsurprisingly top the best scorers list, with coinneach barely edging out bicing. The fact of that the week's topscorer managed only 224 points is probably the best evidence that this update is hardly decisive. The teams having placed their faith in Sagan : Grimm, Trudgin, Hugo87 in that order round up the top five.
1 coinneach 224
2 bicing 221
3 Grimm 180
4 Trudgin 150
5 Hugo87 140
Grimm jumps eleven places to become the week's highest jumper. Bicing also appears on both lists, while R_O_Shipman and Londonpat gain 8 and 7 places respectively. Last year champion, SteelyDan, is fifth courtesy of points from Kwiatkowski and Kennaugh.
1 Grimm (+11)
2 bicing (+8)
3 R_O_Shipman (+8)
4 Londonpat (+7)
5 SteelyDan (+5)
The top 10 remains unchanged this week. Freshman and Geraint Too Fast have scored the exact same amount of points (35) , therefore freshman retains his slim four points advantage. Milanello is closing the gap though. With so little happening this week, it's as good a time as any to look at the progress of the collective wisdom team. It is actually going rather well, since it would rank in 14th position with 7957 points. That results has to be tempered by the fact that at a cost of 7551 points it would have been slightly overbudget.
1 freshman 8519
2 Geraint Too Fast 8515
3 Milanello 8478
4 MCardinalR 8405
5 Pentacycle 8348
6 rywann 8277
7 Cykeltyven 8263
8 The Hitch 8110
9 Oliveira 8097
10 Ferminal 8072
dowload, hopefully
http://www.mediafire.com/?x4dj5k508emixz8
Post by: Flo on July 16, 2014, 14:43
Post by: oliveira on July 18, 2014, 23:56
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
FROOME Chris
TALANSKY Andrew
CAVENDISH Mark
3290 pips by the end of July :o
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2014, 19:25
Quote from: EvansIsTheBest
Update #29 : The Tour doesn't climb to the Giro's height
The Giro, this year proved very successful with many popular picks performing extremely well. However, with many GC favorites crashing out of contention in France, everybody struggled to repeat the success of the Giro. auto de fé is the highest scorer this week. Despite Contador not finishing the race, with Pinot, König and Trofimov also featuring on his team he manages to score an impressive 1013 points, but that's not even half of what the top scorer managed in the Giro update. Eyeballs Out is the only other person to break the thousand points barrier thanks mainly to Majka and Pinot. Yoyokt, fourth highest scorer this week, also relies mainly on Pinot. Meanwhile, the two Péraud teams : *Falze* and PeterB complete the top five.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 auto de fé 1013
2 Eyeballs Out 1009
3 *Falze* 935
4 yoyokt 888
5 PeterB 881
Eyeballs Out edges out auto de fé for highest jumper of the week. With respectively 39 and 37 places gained, they both have reasons to be excited. Crevaison, Armchair Cyclist and yoyokt are all tied for third with a 28 place jump and can also be pleased with their week. More significantly, all five of theses teams feature Pinot and they are all in the top eight highest scorers, so once again both lists are pretty similar.
This Week's High Jumpers
1 Eyeballs Out (+39)
2 auto de fé (+37)
3 yoyokt (+28)
3 Crevaison (+28)
3 Armchair cyclist (+28)
Unsurprisingly, the top ten is completely different to the top ten of the previous update. Pentacycle rises back to the top spot thanks to some inspired picks such as Navardauskas and Bardet alongside the more popular Kruijswijk and Van den Broeck. The Hitch, a perennial presence near the top of the table year after year, is now second. Thibaut Pinot was the main architect of his rise but Adam Yates, the gift that keeps on giving, and Jurgen Van den Broeck were also key. Despite, Contador's withdrawal, MCardinalR clinches the last spot on the podium due to König's insprired performances in France (and also Van den Broeck). *Falze* is one of only two people to have Péraud. With Zubeldia eigth and Van den Broeck also high up in the GC, it's therefore no surprise that Falze jumps from 21st to 4th. freshman and Geraint Too Fast are both down three places to 5th and 6th respectively. König, Rolland, Navardauskas, Van den Broeck and Kruijswijk to help just some guy come back into the top ten, in seventh place to be exact. Milanello, the former leader plummets down to eigth, while Cykeltyven somehow manages to stay in the same spot. PeterB, the other team with Péraud, rouns up this new top ten.
Top 10 Overall
1 Pentacycle 9297
2 The Hitch 9273
3 MCardinalR 8977
4 *Falze* 8968
5 freshman 8921
6 Geraint Too Fast 8894
7 just some guy 8872
8 Milanello 8856
9 Cykeltyven 8830
10 PeterB 8829
Spreadsheet at Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/h2ia3m0g7hrw429/CQ+2014+update+29.xls)
With this week being by far the most important of the month, the monthly highscorers and highjumpers lists are, as expected, fairly similar to this week's so I won't bore you with the details.
This Month's Top Scorers
1 yoyokt 1477
2 Eyeballs Out 1335
3 Grimm 1327
4 Manafana 1303
5 auto de fé 1294
This Month's High Jumpers
1 Grimm (+43)
1 Eyeballs Out (+43)
3 yoyokt (+38)
3 Manafana (+38)
5 Zuremelk (+36)
...and on a personal level I'm nearly into profit. :)
Post by: just some guy on August 01, 2014, 08:08
anyone seen Arbs :lol
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2014, 11:38
Despite the fact I'm nearly at the 7500 mark, my number of riders in profit has only increased from nine to thirteen since the Giro. On the other hand the number of slackers (riders with % below the % of season completed) has dropped from fifteen to thirteen.
EBH (33%) and Chernetskiy (46%) remain high cost problem cases, but Konig delivered when he needed to and is now in profit.
Riders in need of a real slap include Dombrowski (10%), Madrazo (30%) and Rosa (35%).
Post by: al_pacino on August 01, 2014, 14:24
Post by: just some guy on August 08, 2014, 06:37
Quote
Update #30: Not a flat week for Crevaison
With most teams suffering a bit of a post-TDF hangover, Crevaison took advantage to top the High Scorer & High Mover charts this week. Lotto-Belisol teammates Gallopin and Vanendert's exploits in San Sebastian account for the majority of his points, but there were also significant contributions from Mondory, Turgot, and unique pick Duchesne. Gianni Meersman single-handedly scored more than most teams in this update, and one of only two people who picked him, olafjt, is the closest challenger to Crevasion this week.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. Crevaison 336
2. olafjt 312
3. Blues in the bottle 311
4. MADRAZO 251
5. Maaaaaaaarten 249
This Week's High Movers
1. Crevaison (+13)
2. Blues in the bottle (+10)
2. MADRAZO (+10)
4. Maaaaaaaarten (+9)
5. Froome19 (+7)
No new names in the Top 10 this week, just a bit of reshuffling. Pentacycle still leads, while PeterB is the biggest beneficiary of CQ's decision to include the points from Stage 2 of Tour de Pologne in this update.
Top 10 Overall
1. (-) Pentacycle 9452
2. (-) The Hitch 9381
3. (+1) *Falze* 9133
4. (-1) MCardinalR 9099
5. (-) freshman 9060
6. (+4) PeterB 8967
7. (+2) Cykeltyven 8946
8. (-2) Geraint Too Fast 8942
9. (-2) just some guy 8904
10. (-2) Milanello 8881
link to full update spreed sheet (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nisouhishh2x0q/CQ%202014%20update%2030.xlsx)
Post by: Leadbelly on August 12, 2014, 13:25
Quote from: Geraint Too Fast
Update #31: Danish Domination from martinaagard
There is quite a strong Danish feel to martinaagard's team so he was probably expecting to do well in the update after Post Danmark Rundt, but maybe not quite this well? His team features the race winner (Michael Valgren), 3rd and 4th overall (Boaro and Lutsenko - who both won stages as well), along with as Breschel, Quaade & Jørgensen for some minor stage/GC placings. And to top it all off, his team also contains Rafal Majka - the double stage winner and overall victor of Tour de Pologne. So it's no surprise that martinaagard leaves everybody trailing in his wake this week.
Leading the pack behind him is gustienordic, who's scoring was a bit more diverse. Along with good results in Poland and Denmark (and the Netherlands, because Guardini's points from stage 1 of the Eneco Tour are included in this update), gustienordic also benifited from Anacona's strong showing in Utah and a great RideLondon Classic where he picked up 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, thanks too Swift, Alaphillipe, and Gilbert respectively.
Martinaagard and gustienordic both feature strongly in the high movers chart as well, with only Eyeballs Out (the 3rd highest scoring team this week) able to seperate them.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. martinaagard 861
2. gustienordic 648
3. Eyeballs Out 595
4. ironted 557
5. knallertjeblaf 545
This Week's High Movers
1. martinaagard (+25)
2. Eyeballs Out (+24)
3. gustienordic (+18)
4. Handbrake (+17)
5. Skibby the bush kangaroo (+16)
5. adamski101 (+16)
The overall top 3 is unchanged this week. PeterB continues his upward momentum of recent weeks by climbing to 4th, and there are two new/re-entries in the top 10 - minessa and Slow_Rider replace just some guy and Milanello.
Top 10 Overall[/u]
1. (-) Pentacycle 9691
2. (-) The Hitch 9623
3. (-) *Falze* 9469
4. (+2) PeterB 9409
5. (-) freshman 9393
6. (+1) Cykeltyven 9337
7. (+7) minessa 9255
8. (-4) MCardinalR 9248
9. (-1) Geraint Too Fast 9235
10. (+5) Slow_Rider 9173
The Spreadsheet at Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3xdtq2gk7rnik5l/CQ%202014%20update%2031.xlsx?dl=0)
Into profit in both the main and youth games in exactly the same week. :woooo
Post by: just some guy on August 12, 2014, 13:41
my Giro was good, so hooe for Vuelta and Worlds revival.
But Slow Rider come on, :lol
Post by: Slow Rider on August 14, 2014, 10:09
But Slow Rider come on, :lol
Just seen this, how the hell am I top 10? I suppose 618% profit on Kennaugh helps, but still..
Now need to consolidate and make sure I stay ahead of JSG :D
Post by: froome19 on August 14, 2014, 11:04
:hitch
:hitch
:hitch
Post by: LukasCPH on August 14, 2014, 13:50
Beware the resurgence of Bikini Carlos..4 Vuelta stage wins & KOM jersey (sorry, even a believer like me can't believe in his GC chances), then Worlds, then Lombardia, finally Beijing - everything is still possible! :D
Post by: search on August 14, 2014, 14:02
Post by: just some guy on August 19, 2014, 05:30
Update #32: Pentacycle breaks away
When I signed up to do this set of updates I was expecting them to be fairly quiet, with the big late season moves waiting until the Vuelta. How wrong I was! Before I get to the overall rankings, I should give some credit to asdfgh101 for being the weeks top scorer and highest mover. There were a few riders who scored triple figures this week and asdfgh101 had four of them - Wellens, Thomas, Kruijswijk, & Brajkovic, who all helped to make up the only 800+ score of this update. The 2nd best team this week is vladimir, but in 3rd and 4th we have two of the overall contenders, Pentacycle & minessa.
This Week's Top Scorers
1. asdfgh101 862
2. vladimir 776
3. Pentacycle 727
4. minessa 654
5. Jakob747 612
This Week's High Movers
1. asdfgh101 (+32)
2. vladimir (+27)
3. the asian (+19)
3. LaFlorecita (+19)
3. DJ Sprtsch (+19)
It was an average week for many in the overall top 10, and the high scorers have really taken advantage of this. Minessa jumps five places to 2nd, but it is Pentacycle who steals the show this week - he is the first team to pass 10000 points for the year, and in the process increases his lead to over 500 points! It's also interesting to note that the points difference between 1st and 2nd is now bigger than the difference between 2nd and 11th.
Despite the action at the top of the rankings, there are no new names in the top 10 this week.
Top 10 Overall
1. (-) Pentacycle 10418
2. (+5) minessa 9909
3. (+3) Cykeltyven 9885
4. (-2) The Hitch 9802
5. (-2) *Falze* 9800
6. (-2) PeterB 9755
7. (-2) freshman 9700
8. (+1) Geraint Too Fast 9579
9. (-1) MCardinalR 9574
10. (-) Slow_Rider 9570
Down load spread sheet
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dl59mx9rvqk0bn0/CQ%202014%20update%2032.xlsx?dl=0
Post by: just some guy on August 19, 2014, 05:35
need to go deep at the vuelta starting to drop and the 3rd group on the road catching up
Post by: just some guy on August 26, 2014, 21:07
Update #33: Going Postal
Most teams did not get very many points this week, but that cannot be said for the week's top scorer, uspostal. Starting the week in 146th place out of 150, uspostal was the top scorer by a whopping 160 points, thanks to TJVG, Busche, and Howes in Colorado, as well as Nizzolo in Germany. This impressive haul did not bring him into the list of the week's high movers, however (moving him up only to 136th overall). Instead, it was greenedge who moved up 17 places overall, in large part (not surprisingly) to the Orica Greenedge riders Gerrans and Matthews.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 uspostal 670
2 Yellow Knight 510
3 Bicycle_Boy 463
4 greenedge 462
5 Blues in the bottle 437
This Week's High Movers
1 greenedge (+17)
2 Bicycle_Boy (+14)
2 Kazistuta (+14)
4 ironsscally (+13)
5 CraZyCaLL (+11)
In the overall competition, Pentacycle extended his lead to 654 points. 2nd through 10th are separated by less than 200 points! The main change in the top ten this week was Oliveira's return after an absence of several weeks, and Slow_Rider's departure. Looking ahead to the Vuelta, the key factors in determining the victor may be the performances of Quintana, Contador, and Uran: of the top ten, three have Contador, one has Quintana, two have Uran, one has Quintana and Contador, and three have Contador and Uran.
Top Ten Overall:
1 (-) Pentacycle 10655
2 (+1) Cykeltyven 10001
3 (-1) minessa 9948
4 (-) The Hitch 9932
5 (-) *Falze* 9882
6 (-) PeterB 9847
7 (+4) Oliveira 9846
8 (-1) freshman 9826
9 (-1) Geraint Too Fast 9811
10 (-1) MCardinalR 9806
The Spreadsheet at Dropbox - here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ey5sq4w55vkr3g/CQ%202014%20update%2033.xlsx?dl=0)
Post by: just some guy on August 27, 2014, 06:11
Post by: just some guy on September 02, 2014, 05:35
Update #34: Hugo on Top
Another low-scoring week. The top scorer this week was our game's esteemed founder, Hugo Koblet, and even he had no rider with more than 86 points. the_fool_on_the_hill was the top mover, gaining nine places.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 Hugo Koblet 364
2 vladimir 348
3 gustienordic 329
4 ray200 318
5 the_fool_on_the_hill 316
This Week's High Movers
1the_fool_on_the_hill (+9)
2 vladimir (+8)
2 ray200 (+8)
4 Hugo Koblet (+7)
4 R_O_Shipman (+7)
4 archieboy (+7)
Just minor changes in the top ten overall. The top three are unchanged, with Pentacycle maintaining a lead of more than 600 points. PeterB and Oliveira moved up two, while The Hitch and *Falze* slipped by two. Yellow Knight is a new arrival in the top ten.
Top Ten Overall
1 Pentacycle 10928 (-)
2 Cykeltyven 10296 (-)
3 minessa 10231 (-)
4 PeterB 10100 (+2)
5 Oliveira 10089 (+2)
6 The Hitch 10087 (-2)
7 *Falze* 10078 (-2)
8 freshman 10040 (-)
9 MCardinalR 9975 (+1)
10 Yellow Knight 9930 (+2)
For the month of August, vladimir was both the top scorer and top mover, going from 80th to 32nd over the course of the month.
This Month's Top Scorers
1 vladimir 1907
2 Eyeballs Out 1708
3 Pentacycle 1631
4 Skibby the bush kangaroo 1627
5 Yellow Knight 1608
This Month's High Movers
1 vladimir (+48)
2 Skibby the bush kangaroo (+33)
3 Eyeballs Out (+32)
3 asdfgh101 (+32)
5 Jakob747 (+31)
Download here https://www.dropbox.com/s/a43y72cv1dqbe9f/CQ%202014%20update%2034.xlsx?dl=0
Post by: oliveira on September 04, 2014, 14:12
edit: it took a better look to the stats to end my optimism.... :-x 900p difference is too much...
Post by: just some guy on September 15, 2014, 07:45
But then *ca happened and I should be solid :D
Post by: just some guy on September 15, 2014, 21:18
I scored 1234 and dropped 2 places :o
Slow rider dropped 21 so thereis that :lol
shalgo update
Update #36: Into the Homestretch
As could be expected with the large number of points on offer at the Vuelta, Tour of Britain, Quebec City, and Montreal (along with many other races), many teams had significant point hauls and there were large jumps and falls in the standings. Our overall leader, Pentacycle, remains the same. He also still has a lead of more than 400 points, though it did shrink this week. The rest of the top 10 saw many changes, including the entrances of rywann, EvansIsTheBest, and tomazo. tomazo jumped 11 places, from 21st to 10th.
Freshman, *Falze*, and PeterB fell out of the top ten, the latter slipping all the way from 8th to 28th. In the end, whether one has Contador or not is proving decisive.
TheHitch was perhaps particularly eager to see this week's update as he moves into third place overall.
will10 was our top scorer this week, with 1780 points, led by Contador, Aru, and Navardauskas. This was enough to move him from 9th to 5th overall.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 will10 1780
2 skidmark 1732
3 merengues 1730
4 tomazo 1686
5 The Hitch 1645
As mentioned above, there were many significant moves in the standings this week. Our high mover, merengues, jumped an astonishing 45 places--from 112th to 67th, with points from (among many others) Contador, Aru, Van Baarle, and Barguil. There were so many large moves this week that skidmark, who jumped from 44th to 24th, does not even make the high movers list. It is also worth noting that greenedge has made this list 3 out of the last 4 weeks, in the process moving from 110th to 56th overall.
This Week's High Movers
1 merengues +45
2 Lortnoc +37
3 marthaagard +35
4 mutschi +26
5 greenedge +21
Top Ten Overall
1 Pentacycle 12800 (-)
2 Cykeltyven 12376 (-)
3 The Hitch 12186 (+2)
4 Oliveira 12167 (-1)
5 will10 12162 (+4)
6 minessa 12078 (-2)
7 MCardinalR 11945 (-1)
8 rywann 11798 (+3)
9 EvansIsTheBest 11706 (+4)
10 tomazo 11679 (+11)
link direct to excelsheet for those that normally have dropbox issues (https://www.dropbox.com/s/f7qsohjmuaaugql/CQ%202014%20update%2036.xls?dl=0)
Post by: Slow Rider on September 21, 2014, 12:36
Slow rider dropped 21 so thereis that :lol
I hate the Vuelta :(
Post by: Flo on September 21, 2014, 12:43
Crazy update
I scored 1234 and dropped 2 places :o
Slow rider dropped 21 so thereis that :lol
shalgo update
Update #36: Into the Homestretch
As could be expected with the large number of points on offer at the Vuelta, Tour of Britain, Quebec City, and Montreal (along with many other races), many teams had significant point hauls and there were large jumps and falls in the standings. Our overall leader, Pentacycle, remains the same. He also still has a lead of more than 400 points, though it did shrink this week. The rest of the top 10 saw many changes, including the entrances of rywann, EvansIsTheBest, and tomazo. tomazo jumped 11 places, from 21st to 10th.
Freshman, *Falze*, and PeterB fell out of the top ten, the latter slipping all the way from 8th to 28th. In the end, whether one has Contador or not is proving decisive.
TheHitch was perhaps particularly eager to see this week's update as he moves into third place overall.
will10 was our top scorer this week, with 1780 points, led by Contador, Aru, and Navardauskas. This was enough to move him from 9th to 5th overall.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 will10 1780
2 skidmark 1732
3 merengues 1730
4 tomazo 1686
5 The Hitch 1645
As mentioned above, there were many significant moves in the standings this week. Our high mover, merengues, jumped an astonishing 45 places--from 112th to 67th, with points from (among many others) Contador, Aru, Van Baarle, and Barguil. There were so many large moves this week that skidmark, who jumped from 44th to 24th, does not even make the high movers list. It is also worth noting that greenedge has made this list 3 out of the last 4 weeks, in the process moving from 110th to 56th overall.
This Week's High Movers
1 merengues +45
2 Lortnoc +37
3 marthaagard +35
4 mutschi +26
5 greenedge +21
Top Ten Overall
1 Pentacycle 12800 (-)
2 Cykeltyven 12376 (-)
3 The Hitch 12186 (+2)
4 Oliveira 12167 (-1)
5 will10 12162 (+4)
6 minessa 12078 (-2)
7 MCardinalR 11945 (-1)
8 rywann 11798 (+3)
9 EvansIsTheBest 11706 (+4)
10 tomazo 11679 (+11)
link direct to excelsheet for those that normally have dropbox issues (https://www.dropbox.com/s/f7qsohjmuaaugql/CQ%202014%20update%2036.xls?dl=0)
my first ever 1000+ score? :o
Post by: just some guy on September 23, 2014, 08:35
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mzoujfvd4dqx2kq/CQ%202014%20update%2037.ods?dl=0
also the above is the drop box, but I can not open it, anyone able to do some magic and post the results, some said it is open office fwiw
Hitch update
Update #37: The first leaves of autumn.
The imminent arrival of the offseason begins to be felt with as quiet and uneventful week as there has been since March. The 2014 cycling season prepares for one final song, with a monument and a couple of world championship titles for its encore, so it is not over just yet. The same however cannot be said for the overall competition. Pentacycle has a lead so big, it would be internet fantasy sporting history for someone to catch him now.
On the other hand the battle for the other spots is far from over. Cycletyven, who sees his lead over 3rd place decrease slightly, remains in pole position, though at just over 100 to 3rd and 200 to 5th it is far from comfortable. Oliveria leaps above me and now takes the coveted 3rd podium spot, as does will10 who continues on the late season form shown in his truimphant stage win last week by jumping into 4th. Only 70 points however seperate us 3.
Behind us by a small margin of 200, there is a 3rd group on the road working together, all well within reach of the podium in the next few weeks, before the main peloton begins.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 Leadbelly 469
2 Zam_Olyas 434
3 Nicosix 421
4 trotters aotearoa 382
5 tanja 381
AS far as the stage goes, Leadbelly takes the glory in both catergories as both highest scorer and mover. Well done to you leadbelly, making it a succesful campaign. Tanja trotters aotearoa and Nicosix join him in enjoying success in both catergories while Zam continues his great late season form with a 2nd place on points putting him in good position I think to challenge for the monthly crown maybe in 2 weeks.
This Week's High Movers
1 Leadbelly (+13)
2 Nicosix (+11)
3 tanja (+9)
4 lenissart (+8)
5 trotters aotearoa (+7)
Top Ten Overall
1 Pentacycle 12938
2 Cykeltyven 12487
3 Oliveira 12351
4 will10 12329
5 The Hitch 12288
6 minessa 12191
7 MCardinalR 12045
8 rywann 12039
9 tomazo 11895
10 EvansIsTheBest 11847
Thanks to mcmountain for offering advice and an easy guide on how to do this.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mzoujfvd4dqx2kq/CQ%202014%20update%2037.ods?dl=0
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2014, 08:48
All down mainly to the unlikely trio of Sonny Boy Colbrelli, Rohan Dennis and Magic Paterski.
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/banana-riding-llama-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)
Post by: LukasCPH on September 23, 2014, 09:10
also the above is the drop box, but I can not open it, anyone able to do some magic and post the results, some said it is open office fwiwDid some magic: Download an XLSX file of update 37 here! (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cp23jghomzehoyr/CQ%202014%20update%2037.xlsx?dl=0)
Post by: just some guy on September 23, 2014, 09:16
Post by: The Hitch on September 30, 2014, 03:49
It was an eventful week as world championship weeks brought a lot of points to the table but not a lot of point scoring places (unlike stage races where points are more evenly distributed). As a result some people scored bucketloads while others recorded next to nothing.
The biggest profiteer is Cj2002 who scored a whopping 835 points, making him the weeks highest mover as well.
He was pushed close though as he, Grimm, DJ Sprtsch and GTF all scored higher than the week's bottom 11 scorers put together.
Also noteworthy are Leadbelly who features at the top of "highest movers" for the second week in a row making it 27 places in 2 weeks, and cq2014's early leader Gerrainttoofast who's third place and 781 bring him back into the top 10.
At the top,after dominating for pretty much the entire season, Pentacycle's lead is down to the lowest its been since I can't remember when as Cycletyven puts daylight between himself and the rest of the top 10 with a strong 430 point week and is now under 300 points behind the leader. Competition? The gap is actually, finally manageable, with a few Italian classics one big one and a stage race or 2 still to come. Pentacycle does however remain a heavy favourite. Even on this down week he still outscored 7 of the 9 names that made up last week's top 10.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 cj2002 835
2 Grimm 799
3 DJ Sprtsch 790
4 Geraint Too Fast 781
5 petaldo 733
This Week's High Movers
1 cj2002 17
2 petaldo 14
2 Leadbelly 14
2 yoyokt 14
5 Crevaison 13
Top Ten Overall
1 Pentacycle 13226
2 Cykeltyven 12948
3 will10 12581
4 Oliveira 12539
5 rywann 12514
6 The Hitch 12504
7 minessa 12384
8 Ruudz0r 12305
9 Geraint Too Fast 12275
10 freshman 12263
Dropbox- https://www.dropbox.com/s/esy0egmhndiss43/CQ%202014%20update%2038.xls?dl=0
I don't have microsoft excel so that link might not work, as I see it didn't last time.
Post by: just some guy on September 30, 2014, 08:25
and what I did wrong ;) ?
Post by: Leadbelly on September 30, 2014, 08:55
Can someone tell me how bad my week was and what place I am at
and what I did wrong ;) ?
373 points and you dropped two spots to 31st. You've extended your lead over Arb by a couple of hundred.
Post by: Flo on September 30, 2014, 09:51
Post by: cykeltyven on October 01, 2014, 12:14
Post by: just some guy on October 07, 2014, 08:22
I have wondered if the points need to be looked at
7500 has been the mark, but that was for an average team, say 9th WT, now the 9th team is at about 8500 , 7400ish is FDJ at 14th spot.
I suggest 8500 for 2015.
1 cause I think maybe it might be good to look at the scores every say 5 years
2 cause it might make my strategy easier ;)
Post by: Leadbelly on October 07, 2014, 11:05
The only way I could see that an increase of points would be necessary would be if CQ re-jigged their point scoring or if there was a universal increase (10%+) across pro cyclists of days raced. Neither of which has happened I believe.
On the negative side increasing the total points would increase homogenization between teams by the simple fact that there's less riders available at higher scores than at lower ones, and you could argue that the higher the cost the less likely people are to take risks with their picks.
So I say no. You have to cut your cloth according to your means.
Post by: mc_mountain on October 07, 2014, 15:05
Reassess every 5 years is sensible but the reality is its gets reassessed every year and the status quo gets reaffirmed.
if WT teams are scoring more than previously (they are it appears) then that likely means less points to riders on Pro Conti teams. but these riders are still part of the game.
It looks like asdfgh101's new game for 2015 as proposed in CN will have more points available to allow picking higher priced riders.
Post by: The Hitch on October 07, 2014, 15:11
Ok, as last year showed things can still change in the final few months of the season, with 1 wt race and a bunch of smaller ones to go. But really, that is only true for tightly contested spots. The GTS have all finished, the worlds have all finished, the monuments have all finished, the WT has pretty much finished and all the big scoring races are over. Pentacycle with over a 300 point lead is very safe as this year's champion, and with an even greater lead over 3rd, Cykleteven even more safe in his podium spot.
Unfortunately I cannot say the same for myself sitting in the very volotile 3rd spot that has changed every week. Less than 100 points seperate me Will, Oliveria, Minessa and rywann in a 5 way battle royal for the final podium which will take the place of last years battle for first.
In the weekly rankings, vladimir continues a very high scoring finale to the season with another stage win, and by quite some margin. A greater margin seperates vladimir and 2nd place Nicosix than covers the entire next 50 scorers for the week.:eek:
Consolation though for Nicosix comes in the high movers list, which he tops with 11.
This Week's Top Scorers1 vladimir 651
2 Nicosix 478
3 Jakob747 456
4 Londonpat 456
5 the_fool_on_the_hill 440
This Week's High Movers
1 Nicosix (+11)
2 the_fool_on_the_hill (+10)
3 Londonpat (+9)
4 TeoSheva (+8)
5 Jakob747 (+7)
Top Ten Overall
1 Pentacycle 13625
2 Cykeltyven 13290
3 The Hitch 12911
4 will10 12853
5 Oliveira 12819
6 minessa 12816
7 rywann 12813
8 Ruudz0r 12639
9 Kazistuta 12519
10 freshman 12475
Month
With the worlds, Vuelta and Lombardia I think this was the highest scoring month. No surprise then to see the 2nd and 4th place overall feature, as well as a former winner. Rywann wins the month while vladimir amazingly follows up 1st place last month with 2nd this. Interestingly none of the top scorers feature in the top movers list, won by knallertjeblaf, testament of all of them having high positions to begin with.
This month's top scorers
1 rywann 3125
2 vladimir 3119
3 will10 3075
4 skidmark 3046
5 Cykeltyven 2994
This month's high jumpers
1 knallertjeblaf (+45)
2 greenedge (+44)
3 Blues in the bottle (+32)
4 wizard_of_oz (+31)
5 GP Blanco (+28)
Congrats to all
Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4wdlb2w7plp3kb/CQ%202014%20update%2039.xls?dl=0)
Post by: cykeltyven on October 07, 2014, 15:16
But I'm sure my first draft will cost me +8000 so I can understand you JSG.
Post by: skidmark on October 14, 2014, 18:21
In the meantime, I'm thinking about an end plan for the rest of the season. Here is what the rules say, copied from the opening post:
The season starts when the first race is held (which I believe is the Aussie National TT Championships on January 8th) and ends when the last major race (.1 or higher) is held. The winner will be crowned when the next update after the last major race is out. **New rule: any of the top 15 teams have the right to submit for an extension to the season before the end of the last major race. If no teams do so by that time, the season will end at the time stated above.**
Now, I realize the last major race is, I think, Tour of Taihu Lake, which is November 1st-9th. For all intents and purposes, I think the Japan Cup is a pretty last gasp for most of the riders represented in this game, and it would be nice to have a timely wrap-up, especially given that the final result for 1st place seems at least to be sewn up. I was thinking that maybe we could have a wrap-up summary after this weekend (which will include the GC of Beijing and Japan Cup) and unofficially crown a winner, and then for those who are still invested in placings I can offer a couple of updates until the 'official' end of the season. Does that sound good?
I'd love to hear people's thoughts, especially those in the above-mentioned top 15.
Post by: just some guy on October 14, 2014, 18:44
Post by: Leadbelly on October 14, 2014, 18:57
The season should end though on 31st Dec even without any of the top-15 asking for an extension. I must have forgotten/not seen that bolded rule before, but I don't really like it.
Your suggestion in the penultimate paragraph seems the best one. If Pentacycle is still leading by a country mile after Japan or Hainan or wherever then declare them the winner and since there are few races after that, only do an update or two more (end of Nov and end of Dec?) to show people what their true final score/position is.
Post by: skidmark on October 15, 2014, 16:08
If last week's update had the rather titular title 'The End', I would certainly not fault it for the feel of the game; in actuality, there is still a WT stage event to process and a few other little things. But indeed, post-Vuelta, post-Worlds, post-Lombardia, we are fully into the period of denouement for the CQ Ranking Game 2014. It has been a lovely ride, and we will be ceremonially entering Paris shortly, some of us happily in a victory lap, some of us happy to make it to the end and thinking already of next year.
This Week's Top Scorers
1 Fus87 436
2 ray200 282
3 freshman 281
4 Zam_Olyas 278
5 lenissart 276
Fus87 had it all come together this week - not only is their team the only one out of 150 teams to have Jelle Wallays*, winner of Paris-Tours (you would have made a whopping amount on that bet even the day of the race), they also have Stybar who won a 1.1 race, and a gaggle of riders (Nizzolo, Villella, Battaglin, Ruffoni, Firsanov, Rosa) who picked up handy results (between 30 and 45 points) this week. In keeping with the 'usernames with numbers' theme, ray200 gets 2nd with a completely different team (Degenkolb and Madrazo and Formolo doing the scoring). Zam's all-Italian team fittingly places in the closing weekend of Italian racing.
*for some reason on the spreadsheet Jelle Wallays shows up as being on Froome19's team in the popularity tab, but is not on the team actually. I don't know if it was a glitch in data entry or a change in riders before the start of the game that wasn't reflected on that tab, but it seems like Wallays is only on Fus' team for real.
This Week's High Movers
1 Fus87 (+14)
2 ray200 (+8)
3 LaFlorecita (+5)
3 ----AG---- (+5)
5 olopaine (+4)
5 LightBing (+4)
5 Sneekes (+4)
5 Hugo Koblet (+4)
5 comodoro (+4)
The top 2 scorers are the top 2 movers, but LaFlo, despite only finishing 17th this week with less than 200 points, maximized those points in a tight area of the rankings and leaps 5 places. AG does this despite finishing 30th on the week on points. Nice work, guys!
Top 10
1 (-) Pentacycle 13754
2 (-) Cykeltyven 13341
3 (+2) Oliveira 13000
4 (-1) The Hitch 12967
5 (+3) Ruudz0r 12906
6 (-2) will10 12894
7 (-) rywann 12891
8 (-2) minessa 12870
9 (+1) freshman 12756
10 (-1) Kazistuta 12651
Top spot aside, there is some tight racing still going on. Most of this has been resolved by the outcome of the Tour of Beijing (GC not reflected in this update), and the dust will be settling after the Japan Cup this weekend. But the final podium place is a see-saw battle, with spots 3-8 separated by 130 points. Besides that, 4 other teams are within 100 points of the top 10. Top spot seems locked up, but beyond that it's anybody's game.
Update at Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4h2j4kn96vfzafr/CQ%202014%20update%2040.xls?dl=0
Full listings:
Post by: LukasCPH on October 15, 2014, 16:19
This Week's Top Scorers:woohoo
1 Fus87 436
This Week's High Movers
Fus87 (+14)
Mentioned in another weekly update, as top scorer AND high mover. I almost can't believe I'm the only one with Wallays.
Broken into the top half at last. :) :win
Post by: Leadbelly on October 21, 2014, 20:57
Quote from: Hugo Koblet
Update 41: Are we there yet?
Not quite. But almost.
Even though we're approaching the end of season, a lot of points are handed out in this week's update. The winner of the first edition of the game, ingsve, finishes the season in style as he collects 868 points from Gilbert, Hagen, Barguil and Chaves among others and can call himself this week's top scorer. Yours truly takes 2nd place while some of the games regulars completes the top 5.
This week's top scorers:
1. ingsve - 868
2. Hugo Koblet - 748
3. HelgeBlendet - 728
4. the asian - 669
5. Skibby the bush kangaroo - 633
the asian, 4th on the top scorer list, is our highest mover this week, jumping from 109th to 92nd, while ingsve, jumping 16 places, is very close to completing the double.
This week's high jumpers:
1. the asian +17
2. ingsve +16
3. jsem94 +12
4. hilltopfinisher +10
5. ----AG---- +9
5. Roderick +9
5. Total Package +9
In the top 10, it's time to finally crown our winner. With a 600 points lead, it's almost impossible for Cykeltyven to overtake Pentacycle in 1st place, and we can safely congratulate Pentacycle - whose goal was to finish in the top 100 - with the victory. Well done! Pentacycle has made some very good and rare picks in Bardet (163% profit), Navardauskas (333% profit), Wellens (567% profit), Sepulveda (371% profit), Benoot (713% profit) and Theuns (908% profit) and that combined with some high scoring riders like Contador and Gilbert has been enough to set the winning team.
Cykeltyven looks set for 2nd place, while the last podium spot is still up for grabs as only 80 points separate 3rd from 7th place.
Two new teams enter the top 10 this week. Hugo Koblet jumps from 12th into 6th, while tomazo moves from 13th to 10th. will10 and Kazistuta makes way.
Top 10:
1. (-) Pentacycle - 14289
2. (-) Cykeltyven - 13693
3. (-) Oliveira - 13421
4. (+4) minessa - 13380
5. (-) Ruudz0r - 13358
6. (+6) Hugo Koblet - 13347
7. (-) rywann - 13341
8. (-4) The Hitch - 13298
9. (-) freshman - 13266
10. (+3) tomazo - 13215
For most of the teams, their place in the game is almost settled, and this week we were able to safely crown our winner. However, a few things can still happen in the top 10 - and the battle for 3rd is still wide open - so stay tuned for next week's update as well!
Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/de8kpzfrfdbud2a/CQ+2014+update+41.xls (http://www.mediafire.com/download/de8kpzfrfdbud2a/CQ+2014+update+41.xls)
Post by: Leadbelly on October 23, 2014, 15:55
Top of the Class
Kwiatkowski
Barguil
Colbrelli
Navardauskas
Zubeldia
Wellens
Paterski
Bennett
De Maar
Lutsenko
Simon
Managed to fluke quite a few of the less popular big scorers/big percentage returners. Been fun cheering them on this season.
On the Naughty Step
Boasson Hagen
Jungels
Rosa
Craddock
Dombrowski
Brenes
Pomoshnikov
Avila
Mansilla
Interesting to note that from my three most popular picks, two of them are in this list. Eddy with the biggest point loss and Dombrowski with the worst % return. Uran, the other popular pick, had a small profit.
Memo to self - don't pick the obvious choices next year.
Thanks to skids and everyone else who did updates through the year. :cool
Post by: skidmark on November 04, 2014, 00:30
(note: there was no update 42; I got the CQ download when it finally showed up mid-week, but it hadn't even accounted for the end of Hainan, so I decided to hold off until this week since barely anyone scored)
By far the biggest revelation (if it can be called that for an almost post-season race with little competition) of the 2.HC Tour of Hainan was Nicolo Bonifazio of Lampre. The young Italian captured 251 points from the event, which made his 5 CQ Game owners very happy indeed. And, as 3 of those owners were in the top 20 of the standings, it caused some shakeup at the top, including the podium of the game.
This week's high scorers
1. fauniera 251
1. Ruudz0r 251
1. Bellsax 251
1. Reno 251
1. Milanello 251
Remember how I said 5 teams had Bonifazio, and how he scored 251 points? I hope you can connect the dots to understand the above list.
This week's top movers
1. fauniera (+9)
2. Bellsax (+5)
3. Milanello (+4)
4. NairoQ (+3)
5. Ruudz0r (+2)
That's 4 of 5 repeats, with Ruudz0r's +2 being pretty significant (see below). NairoQ, with Palini and Kamyshev, is the interloper on this list (also the highest non-Bonifazio scorer). fauniera's leap of 9 spots lands their team in the top 100, in the nice round 100th place.
Top 10
1. Pentacycle (-)
2. Cykeltyven (-)
3. Ruudz0r (+2)
4. Oliveira (-1)
5. minessa (-1)
6. Hugo Koblet (-)
6. rywann (+1)
8. The Hitch (-)
9. freshman (-)
10. tomazo (-)
Some interesting jockeying going on, despite the fact that only 3 teams in the top 10 scored any points this week (Pentacycle scored 78 from Wippert and Markus, because of course he did). But Ruudz0r leaps onto the podium by virtue of having Bonifazio, Oliveira falls off. And rywann's meagre 6 points from Juan Pablo Suarez gets him into a tie with game founder Hugo for 6th place. I can't say I remember having a tie in the top 10 at season's end in the previous incarnations of this game, but someone correct me if I'm wrong. Milanello, a Bonifazo owner, made an agonizingly close run to the top 10, moving up 4 spots to 11th but ending up 63 points short.
The season is officially over after this week's Taihu Lake; I haven't combed through teams to see who has riders (although I see already at least one team has Jesse Kerrison), but I'm expecting next week's update to simply finalize things. I will provide it when it's available and then we can look ahead to next year!
Spreadsheet: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qky8qvu8fcuw1ec/CQ%202014%20update%2043.xls?dl=0
Overall rankings:
Post by: just some guy on November 04, 2014, 05:18
Keith beat me , he would have told me too :( :D
Not sure I will do so well next year, but you never know I guess
Post by: Flo on November 04, 2014, 07:09
Post by: LukasCPH on November 04, 2014, 08:10
And I'm first![1] :D
| 1. | of the second half |
Post by: Joelsim on November 06, 2014, 17:28
Post by: Flo on November 07, 2014, 10:33
Looking forward to joining this next season. Have picked my team already. No doubt that will only change about 100 times before Oz.
:welcome to the forum Joelsim :hi :wave
you can introduce yourself here (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=26.0) if you want
Post by: Joelsim on November 07, 2014, 11:01
Nice to do a different format.
Post by: Leadbelly on November 07, 2014, 11:34
You can take part in the collective team (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=6658.0) effort for next year as well Joel if you fancy it. Last year's one caused much gnashing of teeth (and it puts in the time I guess until the real racing starts).
Post by: Joelsim on November 07, 2014, 11:54
Post by: LukasCPH on November 07, 2014, 11:58
How does it work LEADBELLY, is there a rules link?As always, we make up the rules as we go. :D
Post by: Joelsim on November 07, 2014, 11:59
Post by: mc_mountain on November 07, 2014, 14:50
Count me in then!
The collective game is a good way to protect yourself from making any rookie errors.
Also look out for my youth cq game - this year's rules (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=4845.msg132280#msg132280)
and there are some great cq games run by Armchair cyclist - Emerging Riders (which tracks young riders over 3 years) and short term games for the cobbles/classics season, and the 3 grand tours.
and :welcome
Post by: Joelsim on November 07, 2014, 16:09
Got ProFSL starting next Friday, when that is done and dusted in the gap before road.cc starts I could also pick my youth cq team.
Not that I don't have a life.
Post by: skidmark on November 10, 2014, 19:26
So, as predicted last week, the Tour of Taihu Lake (last race ranked .1 or higher) had very few participants and very few points on offer. In fact, the asian was this week's high scorer with 5 points from Gavazzi; however, everyone else in the game pretty much tied for 3rd with zero points, as archieboy got the week's only other points from Jesse Kerrison (3 points). So congratulations, if you didn't finish in the top 5 any other week this year, you technically have this week!
Perhaps unsurprisingly, this windfall of points did not lead to any place shuffling, and so our top 10 as highlighted last week is also the final top 10. Congrats to Pentacycle for officially winning the year! For those who don't want to pick through the spreadsheet, I have to highlight a particularly impressive aspect of Pentacycle's team this year, which was the combination of popular and unique picks. Of course he had Contador, who was a game-changer this year for all involved, and the inevitable sort of Boonen-Vanendert-Chaves picks (and also popular ones that didn't work out like VDB, Andy, Goss), but also a good number of high-profit, fairly unique picks. I'll highlight a few:
Philippe Gilbert - 1696 points, profit of 747, picked by 29 (not that unique, but not that popular)
Romain Bardet - 1149 points, profit of 446, picked by 2 (!)
Ramunas Navardauskas - 806 points, profit of 564, picked by 9
Ben Swift - 745 points, profit of 587, picked by 23
Tim Wellens - 748 points, profit of 616, picked by 11
And then young guns like Sepulveda (unique pick), Theuns (2 teams) and Benoot (unique pick) who picked up handy profits of around 200 points for low investment. It takes luck to win this game, but it takes some serious skill to pick riders that can put you in a place where you can win if they mostly do well.
With that, we bring the year to a close. I want to thank all 150 teams that participated, and look forward to starting discussions about next year really soon. Congrats to our podium of Pentacycle, Cykeltyven and Ruudz0r!
Spreadsheet link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jg28oa64aywr4tx/CQ%202014%20final.xls?dl=0
(didn't include spoiler of full results since they are effectively the same as last week; I figured if you wanted to click around the spreadsheet would be useful, though, for completeness' sake)
Post by: Flo on November 10, 2014, 20:16
Excellent :woohoo
| Name | 2013 score | 2014 score | Profit | Return | Popularity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto | 1228 | 2543 | 1315 | 207.08% | 44 |
| ARU Fabio | 262 | 1092 | 830 | 416.79% | 86 |
| RABOTTINI Matteo | 189 | 503 | 314 | 266.14% | 3 |
| BOONEN Tom | 139 | 783 | 644 | 563.31% | 138 |
| WELLENS Tim | 132 | 748 | 616 | 566.67% | 11 |
| KENNAUGH Peter | 93 | 600 | 507 | 645.16% | 40 |
| ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew | 20 | 308 | 288 | 1540.00% | 51 |
| CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban | 0 | 476 | 476 | - | 90 |
Good :cool
| Name | 2013 score | 2014 score | Profit | Return | Popularity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon | 380 | 543 | 163 | 142.89% | 48 |
| BOARO Manuele | 137 | 270 | 133 | 197.08% | 4 |
| STUYVEN Jasper | 108 | 158 | 50 | 146.30% | 22 |
| HEPBURN Michael | 71 | 168 | 97 | 236.62% | 17 |
| SÜTTERLIN Jasha | 43 | 126 | 83 | 293.02% | 14 |
| GERDEMANN Linus | 0 | 111 | 111 | - | 89 |
So so :?
| Name | 2013 score | 2014 score | Profit | Return | Popularity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| URAN URAN Rigoberto | 742 | 938 | 196 | 126.42% | 73 |
| STYBAR Zdenek | 645 | 646 | 1 | 100.16% | 35 |
| AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey | 274 | 260 | -14 | 94.89% | 4 |
| VILLELLA Davide | 219 | 292 | 73 | 133.33% | 40 |
| YATES Simon | 164 | 207 | 43 | 126.22% | 51 |
| EWAN Caleb | 110 | 95 | -15 | 86.36% | 58 |
Not good picks :(
| Name | 2013 score | 2014 score | Profit | Return | Popularity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MARCATO Marco | 327 | 236 | -91 | 72.17% | 13 |
| JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt | 302 | 200 | -102 | 66.23% | 9 |
| ROSA Diego | 181 | 127 | -54 | 70.17% | 12 |
| CRADDOCK Lawson | 175 | 134 | -41 | 76.57% | 17 |
Grrr :angry :S
| Name | 2013 score | 2014 score | Profit | Return | Popularity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin | 362 | 102 | -260 | 28.18% | 19 |
| MOSER Moreno | 353 | 87 | -266 | 24.65% | 105 |
| GOSS Matthew | 217 | 66 | -151 | 30.41% | 106 |
| MORTON Lachlan | 159 | 0 | -159 | 0.00% | 27 |
| MOHORIC Matej | 126 | 55 | -71 | 43.65% | 44 |
| SCHLECK Andy | 99 | 37 | -62 | 37.37% | 127 |
| DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd | 97 | 10 | -87 | 10.31% | 76 |
| ZORDAN Andrea | 91 | 5 | -86 | 5.49% | 15 |
| KESSIAKOFF Fredrik | 42 | 25 | -17 | 59.52% | 90 |
Post by: Leadbelly on November 10, 2014, 20:25
Post by: Flo on November 10, 2014, 20:29
..and how many of the Grrrs will you pick again in 2015? :P
maybe Dombrowski, Matej, Puma, Moser
Post by: just some guy on November 10, 2014, 21:14
Post by: JeroenK on November 11, 2014, 07:21
Post by: skidmark on November 14, 2014, 19:52
That said, if there's one thing I would consider changing, it might be the total points for teams. MC provided me with some info on how CQ points have changed since the game has started:
total points scored by all teams
2010 217683
2011 229067
2012 239226
2013 234051
2014 238259
average of the top 18 teams (not always the WT)
2010 7154
2011 7802
2012 8401
2013 8156
2014 8369
So, if the initial goal was for 7500 to be an 'average' team, it might be worthwhile considering an increase in team value. Then again, who knows what will happen if WT rosters are reduced as they are supposed to be, the total might go down. And I have zero interest in reducing rosters, I love the fact that you have to pick as many riders as you do, it's fun to follow more riders.
I've talked to MC and Hugo about this over PM and we're all kind of ambivalent about such an idea. Regardless, it's late enough in the year that people have probably been picking their teams, so I'm not really inclined to make any changes for next year, but this is more just to see what people think. So yeah, opinions are welcome, maybe somewhere indicating which option you're closest to of a) keep it the same, b) change it now! or c) change it maybe, but next year.
Thanks!
Post by: Flo on November 14, 2014, 19:55
Just some guy is in favor at least ;)
Post by: Leadbelly on November 14, 2014, 20:19
Certainly changing it for 2015 would require a lot of team re-jigging. :P
Maybe it can be considered for 2016 or 2017, but I'd like to see what the UCI reforms are.
Post by: Flo on November 14, 2014, 20:20
I'd keep it the same.
Certainly changing it for 2015 would require a lot of team re-jigging. :P
Maybe it can be considered for 2016 or 2017, but I'd like to see what the UCI reforms are.
let's hope the UCI reforms don't happen at all :)
Post by: LukasCPH on November 14, 2014, 20:34
c) change it maybe, but next year.This.
Post by: Joelsim on November 14, 2014, 22:29
Post by: just some guy on November 15, 2014, 06:01
and I think the game will have to change for 2017 anyway
I suggest no rise this year and we discuss 2016 in the middle of next year and before the last WT race it is set.
With the whole race calender being changed in 2017 if Cookson can convince the ASO 2017 will be a big chage for the game anyway, and if the game is as strong as it is now, it will take a lot of planning
Post by: just some guy on November 15, 2014, 07:05
in 2017 we will at last call have WT teams of 16 and 24 riders, they will have a 8 rider Devo team ( there maybe room if a rider is injuried for a devo rider to ride in the senor team )
So the average of those 16 will be higher I think but less riders, also the rider numbers racing will be less, ie teams of 6 and 8
I can see 2 ways of going about this in 2017
1. Teams of 24 riders at whatever the average is, might be close to 8000 points, but the races will change and therefore points will as well, some will drop from being WT etc etc , basically same set up as now
2. and this is the one I like We have a combine of what we know as the main and Youth game , ie we have 24 riders @ x , where x = the average WT team points and 8 youth riders @ somewhere around 1000 points
It then become much more complex, but it combines the games, I would then like a womens CQ game to take place of the youth, I am excel stupid but I could get the players ;) if people want to set it up
ps Skids or MC if you want tocopy and paste these over at the Pit go for it
Post by: mc_mountain on November 15, 2014, 14:51
I'm not sure potential UCI race calender/team size changes means the game HAS to change. there will still be races and there will still be CQ points awarded - that's all we need.
As it is our 33 man roster breaks the current regs.
As for splitting the points between main teams and devo/youth riders - there is already a cross over between the main and youth game for young riders being picked in both. so I dont see that the youth game has to disappear. I would avoid being prescriptive about the number of points and riders being split between the two sets of riders. Lots of times it could be arbitrary where a rider ends up, two riders with the same age/characteristics one of which is in an UCI team and the other is still in a devo team.
There is already an incentive to select young riders, as they can make big returns, but point and rider limits means there a two more factors that can make a team invalid - so more difficult to select a team in budget and fitting the rules and also increases the chances that skidmark will have to tell people to resubmit teams. It also means we lose the simplicity that can make new players interested and eager to play.
AC is keen on a womens game, but there was something stopping him - maybe it was that CQ dont do a regular download (edit - they only did 6 this year).
Post by: just some guy on November 15, 2014, 15:12
it really would not be hard to have 2 points available 24 at X points and 8 riders in devo Teams or under x age worth y points, not really that complex.
in certain years due to the way the races are raced a certain formula wins, many old heads work close to the same formula, this year was not, but my idea may make the formula hard to find.
remember it is just a suggestion
Post by: mc_mountain on November 15, 2014, 15:30
Not saying it HAS to change suggesting 2017 if there is a change in team make up.
it really would not be hard to have 2 points available 24 at X points and 8 riders in devo Teams or under x age worth y points, not really that complex.
in certain years due to the way the races are raced a certain formula wins, many old heads work close to the same formula, this year was not, but my idea may make the formula hard to find.
remember it is just a suggestion
Well it doubles the complexity. we all know how difficult it is to get the team we want in the budget, that would be doubled.
Post by: Leadbelly on November 15, 2014, 18:31
So I say decrease the budget in these recessionary times!! 7000 here we come. :P
Post by: LukasCPH on November 16, 2014, 10:30
The thing is with increased points, at no point during team selections have I thought "I wish I had an extra 500/1000 points to get Rider X". If anything it's been the opposite. I get more fun out of searching out the cheap gambles, so sometimes I've had to pick expensive guys I'm not that keen on to use up the budget (Villella for the youth game would be an example).First I hit 'like', then I read the last sentence:
So I say decrease the budget in these recessionary times!! 7000 here we come. :PThat's taking it a bit too far ...
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on November 16, 2014, 15:49
so to go into things further .. I would then like a womens CQ game to take place of the youth, I am excel stupid but I could get the players ;) if people want to set it up
I have thought about a women's game, but the guys at CQ only publish a downloadable spreadsheet about 5 or 6 times a year. I did e-mail them to ask if a more regular update might be made available, but no response.
Post by: just some guy on November 16, 2014, 15:53
I have thought about a women's game, but the guys at CQ only publish a downloadable spreadsheet about 5 or 6 times a year. I did e-mail them to ask if a more regular update might be made available, but no response.
let me know if it happens and I will get some players
Post by: Leadbelly on November 16, 2014, 20:39
Post by: JeroenK on November 24, 2014, 14:54
I have thought about a women's game, but the guys at CQ only publish a downloadable spreadsheet about 5 or 6 times a year. I did e-mail them to ask if a more regular update might be made available, but no response.
I'll ask what the're planning to do in 2015 this saturday. Meeting a couple of them.
Post by: mc_mountain on November 24, 2014, 15:16
I'll ask what the're planning to do in 2015 this saturday. Meeting a couple of them.
:cool
Be sure to invite them to submit teams!
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on November 24, 2014, 18:34
:cool
Be sure to invite them to submit teams!
That would be great, but we might need to check that they are not massaging the figures for their unique picks ;)
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on November 24, 2014, 18:36
I'll ask what the're planning to do in 2015 this saturday. Meeting a couple of them.
Assure them of our gratitude for their amazing resource.
Post by: JeroenK on November 25, 2014, 07:28
Assure them of our gratitude for their amazing resource.
I will, and you're welcome ;)
Post by: skidmark on November 27, 2014, 22:44
I'm on board with JSG - any changes will be discussed next year and any announcement would be mid-year so people have plenty of time to prepare. I'm of the mindset that maybe there should be a separate thread once the season is up and running next year, and once any reform plan has been announced, to see what people feel like. This game is only loosely based on the requirements of a WT team, so we don't necessarily have to react to a reformed schedule, and in fact CQ will probably adjust their rankings to reflect any changes, so we don't necessarily have to adjust at all as that would be a double-adjustment. Either way, let's talk about it next year!
With regards to next season, the new thread will be up about a month before the Aussie Nationals, giving people plenty of time to submit a team. I just have to get my ducks in a row - my goal is to get it up by December 10th. Keep your eyes on this forum.
Post by: LukasCPH on November 27, 2014, 22:50
I'm on board with JSG - any changes will be discussed next year and any announcement would be mid-year so people have plenty of time to prepare. I'm of the mindset that maybe there should be a separate thread once the season is up and running next year, and once any reform plan has been announced, to see what people feel like. This game is only loosely based on the requirements of a WT team, so we don't necessarily have to react to a reformed schedule, and in fact CQ will probably adjust their rankings to reflect any changes, so we don't necessarily have to adjust at all as that would be a double-adjustment. Either way, let's talk about it next year!Sounds like a much better plan than what the UCI has. :D
Post by: skidmark on December 10, 2014, 23:01
Post by: Joelsim on December 10, 2014, 23:34
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