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Title: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on January 12, 2015, 11:11
So which teams will be the last to get a win this year?

Last year Astana were the last WT squad to get onto the top step of the podium, and of course Novo Nordisk of the PCT teams didn't achieve that goal at all.

Nationals don't count.

WORLD TOUR

race and stage level team Jersey name
Tour Down Under st2 WT Movistar #movistar Juan Jose Lobato
Tour Down Under st3 WT BMC #bmc Rohan Dennis
Tour Down Under st5 WT Sky #sky Richie Porte
Tour de San Luis st7 2.1 Etixx - Quick Step #etixx Mark Cavendish
Trofeo Santanyi-Ses Salines-Campos 1.1 IAM #iam Matteo Pelucchi
GP Marseillaise 1.1 Lotto Soudal #lotto Pim Ligthart
Herald Sun Tour st1 2.1 Orica GreenEDGE #orica Cam Meyer
Dubai Tour st3 2.HC Giant - Alpecin #giant John Degenkolb
Etoile de Bessèges st5 2.1 Trek #trek Bob Jungels
Tour of Qatar st2 2.HC Katusha #katusha Alexander Kristoff
Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia 1.1 Astana #astana Rein Taaramäe
Trofeo Laigueglia 1.HC Lampre #lampre Davide Cimolai
Ruta Del Sol st3 2.1 Tinkoff #tinkoff Alberto Contador
Tour Du Haut-Var st1 2.1 AG2R #ag2r Ben Gastauer
Critérium International st1 2.HC Cannondale - Garmin #tcg Ben King
Circuit Cycliste Sarthe st2 2.1 FDJ #fdj Anthony Roux
Tour de Yorkshire st2 2.1 LottoNL-Jumbo #jumbo Moreno Hofland

PRO CONTINENTAL

race and stage level team Jersey name
Vuelta al Tachira st3 2.2 Southeast #southeast Jakub Mareczko
Vuelta al Tachira st5 2.2 Androni #androni Carlos Galviz
Tour Down Under st6 WT Drapac #drapac Wouter Wippert
Trofeo Andratx-Mirador d'Es Colomer 1.1 MTN #mtn Steve Cummings
Tour de Filipinas st2 2.2 Novo Nordisk #novonordisk Scott Ambrose
Etoile de Bessèges st2 2.1 Wanty #wanty Roy Jans
Etoile de Besseges st3 2.1 Europcar #europcar Bryan Coquard
Tour of Qatar st6 2.HC Bora-Argon #bora Sam Bennett
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo st3 2.1 Bretagne - Seche #bretagne Daniel McLay
Ronde van Drenthe 1.1 Topsport Vlaanderen #topsport Edward Theuns
GP Sochi Mayor 1.2 RusVelo #rusvelo Sergey Firsanov
Volta Ciclista a Catalunya st1 WT CCC Sprandi Polkowice #ccc Magic Paterski
Circuit Cycliste Sarthe st1 2.1 Cofidis #cofidis Nacer Bouhanni
Vuelta a Castilla y Leon st1 2.1 Caja Rural #cajarural Pello Bilbao
Joe Martin Stage Race st2 2.2 UnitedHealthcare #uhc John Murphy
Giro d'Italia st10 2.UWT Bardiani - CSF #bardiani Nicola Boem
Tour of Japan st3 2.1 Nippo - Vini Fantini #fantini Nicolas Marini
Tour de Luxembourg st2 2.HC Cult Energy #cult Linus Gerdemann
Tour du Limousin st4 2.1 Team Roompot #roompot Maurits Lammertink
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Flo on January 12, 2015, 11:20
going for novo nordisk again and lotto-jumbo
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: DJW on January 12, 2015, 13:08
I'm going with Katusha and Team Roompot
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: AlyKaptan on January 12, 2015, 13:15
I'll go with Trek for World Tour. And of course Novo Nordisk for PCT. I always wondered what's the story of this team. They are PCT but they have  no half decent cyclits. Why are they PCT anyways?
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: LukasCPH on January 12, 2015, 13:50
I always wondered what's the story of this team. They are PCT but they have  no half decent cyclits. Why are they PCT anyways?
When the team first became ProConti (2011), it had a combination of diabetic (Megias, Kerkhof, Verschoor etc.) and non-diabetic riders (Bodrogi, Efimkin, Kocjan, Reijnen etc.) - and actually won UCI races like that year's Tour of Rwanda (2.2) or Tour of Turkey (2.HC).

Starting in 2013 they (re-)introduced a "diabetics only" policy at the team. Interestingly coinciding with a sponsor change from Sanofi to Novo Nordisk; that may or may not have played a role, I don't know.
But the team continued as a ProConti team. Why? They registered in time, they paid the license fees - and unlike for the WorldTour, there is no requirement of any sporting standard to be ProConti. When team's applications are rejected (which happens rarely enough) it's always for financial reasons. If the 16+ riders you contract are actually able to win a race on the level they're going to ride at plays absolutely no role.

A discussion could be had if that is how it should be, or if teams should have to 'qualify' for ProConti. :shh ;)
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on January 12, 2015, 15:23
Could be a few PCT teams that struggle to get that first win I feel.

#fantini look a very slim squad.

#rusvelo might have to wait till the first races in Russia.

#colombia only had two wins last year if we discount Nats and have lost Swampy and Chalapud.

#roompot look weak, but surely will pick something up in a ssr.

#uhc made some nice signings, but I still don't see too many wins from Brajkovic and Ratto.

Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: DB-Coop on January 12, 2015, 19:13
They are PCT but they have  no half decent cyclits. Why are they PCT anyways?

Andrea Peron is half decent imo, not great no, but half decent yes. The rest of the team is more likely to win a participation medal than any other medal really though.

I think they are PCT so they can do the races they want, as far as moving from conti to pro conti I think the only requirement is that you give UCI more money.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: just some guy on January 21, 2015, 11:33
Tour Down Under st 2, WT, movistar, #movistar , Juan José Lobato
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on January 21, 2015, 13:48
Two stages of both TdU and TdSL done and only one WT / PCT winner so far from the four stages. Who'd have thunk it?
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: just some guy on January 22, 2015, 08:50
Tour Downunder st3, WT , BMC , #bmc , Rohan Dennis
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: L'arri on January 24, 2015, 10:10
Wow, no real changes beyond Porte-Sky with that Malori win. San Luis has really been owned by Latin America this year.

Thread deserves sticky. Is now sticky.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: L'arri on January 26, 2015, 07:56
The 2015 Cav-alcade stutters into life ...  :P
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: just some guy on January 30, 2015, 17:27
Stevo Cummings getting the #mtn win list started :win

#iam yesterday nice as well
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: just some guy on February 01, 2015, 16:18
Jeepers LB fast on the trigger finger nice work #lotto win and not Andre
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on February 02, 2015, 08:58
#novonordisk

O ye of little faith!  :shh
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Flo on February 02, 2015, 18:32
#novonordisk

O ye of little faith!  :shh

 :o :o
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: just some guy on February 05, 2015, 07:03
The Herald Sun tour st 1, 2.1, Orica - Greenedge, #greenedge,   Cameron Meyer
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: DB-Coop on February 05, 2015, 19:09
#novonordisk

O ye of little faith!  :shh

In case I wasn't the only one who had to see it with my own eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWboAlxV5WU
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on February 06, 2015, 20:50
WT Poll added.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: L'arri on February 07, 2015, 11:33
Has to be between Trek and LottoNL, I think. Low scoring Lampre usually picks up a little win here or there in the early Italian races like Laiguieglia.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Joelsim on February 07, 2015, 11:42
Where is Garmin-Cannondale's first win going to come from? They don't have a single pure sprinter. I can see them getting less than 10 wins all season but getting some decent stage race GC finishing. Just can't see many winners in that team at all. At least Lampre have Modolo, Ulissi and Costa, and maybe Oliveira for the TTs.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Capt_Cavman on February 07, 2015, 11:49
I voted for Tinkoff before I remembered Sagan.

Here's hoping I'm right anyway  :cool
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: DB-Coop on February 08, 2015, 08:32
I voted for Tinkoff before I remembered Sagan.

Here's hoping I'm right anyway  :cool

The funny thing is, so did I.  :D

I still think it is a good bid, after all they lack the small races nationally that other teams pick up early wins in, so might be a chance. We just need Sagan not to win any of his prep races for the classics. I'm sure that Lobato will snuff him at MSR by the way.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2015, 13:17
https://twitter.com/katushacycling/status/564774696722636800
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on February 20, 2015, 20:24
Down to the last four now.

The two French teams, Cannondale and Jumbo.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: L'arri on February 20, 2015, 20:31
Down to the last four now.

The two French teams, Cannondale and Jumbo.

Sounds about right. ;)
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: L'arri on February 21, 2015, 18:20
#ag2r :yuush :yuush :yuush :yuush :yuush

:P :P :P :cool :cool :cool
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on March 06, 2015, 17:06
Nearly two weeks since a new team got their first victory.  :zzz2

Still FDJ, Cannondale and (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/animals/dancing-pink-elephant.gif) left from the WT and 11 PCT teams.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on March 18, 2015, 14:41
Could be a few PCT teams that struggle to get that first win I feel.

#rusvelo might have to wait till the first races in Russia.


They had to wait till the second race in Russia.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: just some guy on March 28, 2015, 10:36
https://twitter.com/Ride_Argyle/status/581766573846843392
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on March 29, 2015, 10:51
.....and down to the final two WT teams without a win. FDJ vs Jumbo!

Good chance today for Pinot at CI or maybe Hofland can repeat at the Limburg Classic next Saturday?
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Flo on March 29, 2015, 10:54
My vote for my Dutch friends at Lotto-Jumbo looking good
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: search on April 08, 2015, 11:02
Circuit Cycliste Sarthe - Stage 2a: #fdj ROUX Anthony

...so we have a winner: #jumbo :win
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on April 08, 2015, 11:15
Poll changed to PCT teams. Can an admin unlock the voting please.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on April 25, 2015, 08:36
Down to five teams left with Caja and UHC picking up wins recently.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: search on April 25, 2015, 08:45
can we add Jumbo to the poll again though? :P
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: LukasCPH on April 27, 2015, 16:57
Down to five teams left with Caja and UHC picking up wins recently.
#bardiani Bardiani will win a Giro stage.
#fantini Nippo-Fantini may win a Giro stage or, in default of that, one in Japan.
#roompot The Oranjes would win something in May if they rode the Olympia's Tour ... but they're not.
#cult CULT should be able to snatch a win in the Norwegian races; if they don't, it's looking bleak.
#colombia Colombia ... when is the Vuelta a Colombia on this year? August? That's when they'll win a race. Maybe.

Voted for #roompot Roompot.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: DB-Coop on April 29, 2015, 22:57
#cult CULT should be able to snatch a win in the Norwegian races; if they don't, it's looking bleak.

Quaade might win a ITT for them
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on May 02, 2015, 22:05
WT done and dusted with Hofland's victory today.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Jamsque on May 03, 2015, 04:45
Long time coming for the custard crew
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on June 05, 2015, 21:43
(http://www.jacksontrophies.com/library/product_enlarge/a14/a1448.jpg)

Colombia vs Roompot for the wooden spoon.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: LukasCPH on June 05, 2015, 21:55
Colombia vs Roompot for the wooden spoon.

If only Marc de Maar were still registered in *cw Curaçao. ;)
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on August 21, 2015, 22:11
...... and we have a winner/loser!!! Team Colombia :fanfare

Roompot broke their duck in style with two victories in one day. I think Lammertink's victory was first so he gets the glory.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Leadbelly on October 01, 2015, 10:43
Seven races left (I think) for Colombia in the season to get that elusive victory. Can they do it?

Do they have any excuse or are they just that bad? Torres and Martinez seem to be the only ones coming out of the season with any credit, the less said about the rest the better.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: search on October 01, 2015, 11:00
Quintero did alright as well I think, joined a lot of moves, and also the ones staying clear sometimes. Not being good enough to take a win from it is a bit unfortunate, but hardly his fault. He did what he could I think.

Post Merge: October 01, 2015, 11:05
well, and on paper Duarte should be able to fight for the win in Milano-Torino, Lombardia and Giro dell'Emilia. Will it happen though? Probably not.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: M Gee on December 01, 2015, 03:38
O.M.F.G. Froome nominated for personality of the year. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-armitstead-nominated-for-bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-armitstead-nominated-for-bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year)

Sure, and he has the personality of my shoe just after I've stepped in sh*t. OMG, it stinks. Oh, but hey! If thats what they want, let them have it. It stinks to me.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Ram on December 01, 2015, 07:35
Personality also refers to a person of eminence, which, hazarding a guess, is what they're going for. Otherwise, Brian Close has this sewn up for the next decade, and he died earlier this year.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Not My Circus on December 01, 2015, 10:04
O.M.F.G. Froome nominated for personality of the year. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-armitstead-nominated-for-bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-armitstead-nominated-for-bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year)

Sure, and he has the personality of my shoe just after I've stepped in sh*t. OMG, it stinks. Oh, but hey! If thats what they want, let them have it. It stinks to me.

Heh, as one of the 'they' mentioned I felt I ought to comment  :P ... SPOTY is a law unto itself; I mean how how in the hell to chose between different sports in the first place  It's that weird thing where a panel of 'experts' draw the long list and then the great British Public get their say. So yes the candidates are there for 'sporting prowess and the GBP usually vote with their heart.  We love a good tryer, we love a bit of success, we like a personality... So I guess that like the last time Chris F was nominated (and it's right that he was), he probably won't win.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: M Gee on December 01, 2015, 19:49
I should have put a :fp  :lol in my post to let you guys know I was making a statement but with a little exaggeration for humor. 

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We love a good tryer, we love a bit of success, we like a personality...

I suppose I will have to grudgingly cede those points. I'll put on my best curmudgeonly act for that conversation. :)
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Not My Circus on December 01, 2015, 20:14
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I suppose I will have to grudgingly cede those points. I'll put on my best curmudgeonly act for that conversation. :)

  :lol I guess I should make it clear I don't think he'll win it this year. .. you were absolutely spot on - he doesn't gel with enough people, not in the same way as say Brad or Cav or Chris Hoy... and I'll admit right now he wouldn't get my vote. Lizzie though... a very diff matter  :cool
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: M Gee on December 02, 2015, 01:22
  :lol I guess I should make it clear I don't think he'll win it this year. .. you were absolutely spot on - he doesn't gel with enough people, not in the same way as say Brad or Cav or Chris Hoy... and I'll admit right now he wouldn't get my vote. Lizzie though... a very diff matter  :cool

Lizzie? Heck yeah! I'd vote for her too!

And isn't it odd that we can find a positive comparison with Brad Wiggins! Brad is certainly lacking in public speaking talent, but otherwise seems to be a straight-up kind of guy (honest, a tryer, and sometimes a winner). I like him.
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on December 02, 2015, 08:57
Sorry to go against the sport I enjoy so much.

But I would say that if the BBC SPOTY isn't rigged or influenced by block voting then Kevin Sinfield should win.

I don't see Froome ever winning it and Armistead will struggle to get enough votes outside of an Olympic year.

Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Not My Circus on December 02, 2015, 09:29
Sorry to go against the sport I enjoy so much.

But I would say that if the BBC SPOTY isn't rigged or influenced by block voting then Kevin Sinfield should win.

I don't see Froome ever winning it and Armistead will struggle to get enough votes outside of an Olympic year.



SPOTY is never to be taken seriously and best treated as such. I agree, Froome will never win it... it's what I was trying to say. Lizzie won't either - in or out of an Olympic year... there will always be some golfer or other.

OH just noticed your tag line... St Ives in Cornwall?? I grew up in Redruth
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Flo on December 02, 2015, 09:38
Dear lord, when will you Brits understand no one outside your isle cares about that stupid SPOTY competition. It's very tedious to read about it in every thread I open, on every website I enter and every time I open twitter. And this, EVERY year, for a few weeks. :S :angry Have mercy :cool
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on December 02, 2015, 09:48
OH just noticed your tag line... St Ives in Cornwall?? I grew up in Redruth

St Ives in Cambs for me :)

Did live in Dorset though so I am West Country hardened  :cool
Title: Re: The 2015 Winners and Not So Winners List
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on December 02, 2015, 18:35
Dear lord, when will you Brits understand no one outside your isle cares about that stupid SPOTY competition. It's very tedious to read about it in every thread I open, on every website I enter and every time I open twitter. And this, EVERY year, for a few weeks. :S :angry Have mercy :cool

The problem with it is that the BBC take it far to seriously now.

Back in the 80's and 90's it was fantastic. SPOTY was just a very small segment of of a show called "Sports Review of The Year" which was a proper review of the Sporting year with the occasional light hearted moment like Frank Bruno and Jeremy Corbett trying to recreate Jeremy Guscotts drop goal against South Africa in 1997. All the voting was done on blank postcards or a coupon cut out of the Radio Times and was done before the show took place. As it was an open vote you'd get "lesser" sports basically stuffing the ballot boxes which led to things like angler Bob Nudd getting the most votes in 1991 but the BBC disqualifying him because they said all of his votes had come from a campaign run by the Angling Times