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Title: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you, sponsored by Dimension Data
Post by: ram on May 15, 2012, 17:44
It's time to take the mind away from mediocrity, it's time to push for excellence. It's time to watch as the team grows from a handful of tiny beans to a behemoth beanstalk. The time has arrived to train your eyes and thoughts on this team that's ready to crush all competition that stands forth it, it's the time to look at MTN Qhubeka.

They went, they saw, and they conquered Bretagne. Now, the Fleche du Sud stands in front of this intrepid, yet mighty, lot as they get ready to cast the their flaming embers in European minds. Are they birds, are they planes? Nup, they're Reinardt and Russom flying up a hill as all others trail in their wake. Throw in the names, Niyonshuti, Jacques, Tewelde, Petrus and a plethora of Saffie talent coming through, they're definitely a bona fide super team.

You know you saw it, you know you recognised it, you know that time's coming for the cycling world to be called Qhubekaland (bar the Genesys lot, they're still ace).

The greatness of Reinardt-
1sr Ronde van Zeeland
1st Circuit de Wallonie
1st Ronde van Overijssel
1st Prologue, Ronde van Overijssel
1st Tour of Morocco
1st Stage 1,5,6,8 Tour of Morocco
1st Tour de Bretagne
1st Stage 4 Tour de Bretagne

The climing of Jacques
1st Stage 2 Tour of Eritrea
1st Tour of Eritrea

The brilliance of Russom-
2nd Tropicale Amissa Bongo

The stellar quality of Arran Brown's sprint-
1st Stage 3,4,9,10

Lotto Petrus-
Undisputed Namibian National champion, ITT and RR. How much better can a cyclist get?

Adrien Niyonshuti-
Rwandan Champion and 6th in the Tour of Rwanda.


The stats and results are there for all to see, it cannot be ignored any more, and it's time to get on the biggest bandwagon known to the world of cycling known as MTN Qhubeka.

Reinardt at the Circuite de Wallonie
(http://www.directvelo.com/file_upload/3800.JPG)
Some more to hammer in the greatness
(http://www.directvelo.com/file_upload/3804.jpg)

Say hello to Reinardt at the Mur de Bretagne-
(http://www.ouest-france.fr/photos/2012/04/28/120428164615047_77_000_apx_470_.jpg)

And in the sacrilegious case that you missed it, worry not, it's available for future worship-
Tour de Bretagne: page sépciale 5ème étape. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szeMfDYKQ6I#ws)

Russom striking a pose in Gabon-
(http://www.webaoo.net/trop2012/www/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Meron-Russom1.jpg)

Arran Brown in Morocco-
(http://www.bicycling.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Tour_du_Maroc.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 16, 2012, 00:36
Great team, started following them on twitter at the start of the year when John-Lee Augustyn (a rider i always had a soft spot for) was rumoured to be moving across to the team.

unfortunately a nasty injury and hip surgery put John-Lee out for the season so far and on his return he realised that he had not recovered well enough and decided to put his career on hold for now.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 16, 2012, 03:09
Now doing not much at utensilnord. Shame because Qhubeka could've been a perfect place for a resurrection of sorts.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 16, 2012, 03:15
Now doing not much at utensilnord. Shame because Qhubeka could've been a perfect place for a resurrection of sorts.

i thought he had gone to Qhubeka but you are right that was rumoured all year but he ended up at utensilnord. then retired.
have changed my post to make me look less of an arse
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 16, 2012, 03:38
Shieet, about the editing to look less of an arse.

That shall not stop this Qhubeka love in we're having now. Fleche du Sud, Andy Schleck won this in the before time. If he can win it, Qhubeka will crush it.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Jono L. on May 16, 2012, 12:54
I lived in the same building as Arran and a bunch of other South African cyclists in holland back in 2010.

Seemed like the south african set up at that stage was a complete dogs breakfast. Riders arriving out of nowhere, no one picking them up or taking them to races.

Must have gotten their sh*t sorted.

Funny story of the day goes to one of the south african lads rocking up to a young ladies room ( a local dutch girl, the building was a sort of hostel for people working or going to uni in Maastrichte), knocking on the door and hanging his business out in front of her.

Next night the girls boyfriend walks in and puts the south african bloke on his arse fair and square.

Once the south african coach got wind of what went on the young fella was on the next flight home.

Next
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 16, 2012, 12:56
Brilliant ;D
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Dim on May 16, 2012, 13:05
i thought he had gone to Qhubeka but you are right that was rumoured all year but he ended up at utensilnord. then retired.
have changed my post to make me look less of an arse

ah didnt realise he retired. Thought he went to utensilnord and just faded into the background.. poor old John Lee, had loads of promise but that hip really screwed him over.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 16, 2012, 13:11
ah didnt realise he retired. Thought he went to utensilnord and just faded into the background.. poor old John Lee, had loads of promise but that hip really screwed him over.

To be fair he did not say retired he said it was on hold indefinitely.

Seems like the hip surgery just did not work out

As for jonos story, makes you proud to be a saffa.  ;D

Always been good at subtly especially when it comes to women
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 16, 2012, 22:11
The winningest rider of the year gave others a chance to shine today, third in the first stage of the Fleche du Sud. Is there anything that can't be done? He's coming for the Ardennes, get the bricks ready to be shat Philippe, it's Reinardt all the way.

Martin Wesemann finished 11th with the same time as Reinardt, top effort.

Russom and van Niekerk finishing safely in the main pack, and no abandons for the team. That's grouseness all bundled into one, special.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 17, 2012, 07:34
Janse in french

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-interview-reinardt-janse-van-rensburg-laquo-comme-dans-un-reve-raquo-24586.html (http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-interview-reinardt-janse-van-rensburg-laquo-comme-dans-un-reve-raquo-24586.html)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 17, 2012, 07:34
Mentions 'Many training him already sweet eyes' think they mean you Ram
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 17, 2012, 07:37
Sweet, brilliant. Carn Reinardt.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 17, 2012, 07:37
although not surprising you like him as if you do an image search for him you get

(http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/media/1442/Karen_Janse_Van_Rensburg_001.jpg)

obviously looks different out of his bike gear
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 17, 2012, 07:44
Noice, could even qualify as one of Kallis' squeezes.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 18, 2012, 05:04
Even the women are winning

Karien van Jaarsveld and Theresa Ralph are winning the sani2c MTB endurance race

(http://cdn0.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net//2012/01/29/2/current_sa_marathon_champ_karien_van_jaarsveld_mtn_national_mtb_xcm_1_barberton_2012_0324_600.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3v4v-YZIccU/TE2nTGZwupI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/hL9mQcYoFzM/s1600/4.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 18, 2012, 05:13
Legends, the lot of them. Niyonshuti podiumming in the African continental MTBs too.

I enjoyed reading the report on the Mabalingwe leg of the National MTB Series.

Quote
MTN-Qhubeka rider Karien Alberts (van Jaarsveld) described the race as ‘adventurous’. “Apparently the night before the race, elephants pulled out the branding that had been set up,” she says. “Then on race day, a hippo chased some early starters from the parking area. But the highlight of the race was when two female lions charged me. Your brain processes things in slow motion, and I remember realising ‘this is a lion’, sort of stopping and being willing to trade my bike, then realizing I need to get out of here and finally the fence. There was a fence! What a privilege racing in Africa.”

Sourcage (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/wild-racing-at-mabalingwe/)

Reinardt at the Ronde van Overijssel
(http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Overijssel-Reinardt.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 18, 2012, 05:19
The moment with the lions

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/522781_313164128758128_266130916794783_757862_997629669_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 18, 2012, 05:24
Nice one, thank flip for the cage. I'd still sh*t bigger bricks if a hippo were around than a lion.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 18, 2012, 06:40
Couple of rider sites

Bradley Potgieter
http://bradleypotgieter.com/ (http://bradleypotgieter.com/)
the only one of the three that actually has a proper, updating, site

Arran Brown
http://www.cyclefit.co.za/ (http://www.cyclefit.co.za/)
The site is more for promoting his bike fit company. Has some results and photos

J.C. Nel
http://www.jcnel.blogspot.com.au/ (http://www.jcnel.blogspot.com.au/)

JC has been particularly prolific in his blog. started in September he called it a daily dose of JC, then admitted he would probably only update once or twice a week. then did one full post and nothing since
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 18, 2012, 06:47
Unbelievable, that's how to update a blog.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 18, 2012, 07:02
Currently Racing in Fleche Du Sud

Reinardt is currently 5th

Updates on the race can be found below

http://velorooms.com/mens-road-cycling/fleche-du-sud/ (http://velorooms.com/mens-road-cycling/fleche-du-sud/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 18, 2012, 07:06
Aye, it's on a countback of the results isn't it. Doesn't matter so much as yet, same time as third. I say that knowing full well how the Tour de Bretagne was won :D

Hopefully, he can gain those eleven seconds later on in the race.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 18, 2012, 07:14
Aye, it's on a countback of the results isn't it. Doesn't matter so much as yet, same time as third. I say that knowing full well how the Tour de Bretagne was won :D

Hopefully, he can gain those eleven seconds later on in the race.

Stage 3 looks to have some hills and stage 4 is a TT. should be able to find time there
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 18, 2012, 07:22
Stage 5 doesn't really seem too sharp, that said, he's good enough to win sprints and should get time there if on form. The TT's a good bet to gain time, and with that, I'm off to the Fleche du Sud thread again.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 18, 2012, 07:38
Qhubeka saying that Karien van Jaarsveld has crashed and is receiving help from Theresa Ralph to get back.

Bad luck.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 18, 2012, 08:50
ok seems like you were right Ram

According to Reinardt

Quote
Crunchday at Fleche du Sud. Finish is up a wall we do 3 times today.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 18, 2012, 08:55
Could be the day for him, hopefully. Carn Reinardt.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 20, 2012, 23:50
OK Rienardt could not quite manage to finish Fleche Du Sud with a win but he did take second place on the final stage (after crashing with 30km to go) and with it took the Points Jersey for the race.

MTN took third in the teams race overall.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 21, 2012, 09:49
van Niekerk didn't have a half bad race, did he?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 21, 2012, 09:56
van Niekerk didn't have a half bad race, did he?

well he has had 2 top 10's in Langkawi so must be a decent climber
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 21, 2012, 10:00
Aye, still not the worst race for him. Hasn't Jacques finished fifth in Langkawi once?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 25, 2012, 06:20
Great team, started following them on twitter at the start of the year when John-Lee Augustyn (a rider i always had a soft spot for) was rumoured to be moving across to the team.

unfortunately a nasty injury and hip surgery put John-Lee out for the season so far and on his return he realised that he had not recovered well enough and decided to put his career on hold for now.
Found an article about him. He's going to be managing a university team in South Africa now and is opening a shop. Bad luck, but good on him to still be involved. Crazy thing to be suffering from excess chrome and cobalt.
http://www.cyclingsa.com/Article.aspx?uid=859 (http://www.cyclingsa.com/Article.aspx?uid=859)


Tour de Free State men's race starting today.

Qhubeka-
Calvin Beneke
Loto Petrus
Meron Russom
Songezo Jim
Jacques Janse van Rensburg

Strong team that.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 25, 2012, 07:18
Found an article about him. He's going to be managing a university team in South Africa now and is opening a shop. Bad luck, but good on him to still be involved. Crazy thing to be suffering from excess chrome and cobalt.
http://www.cyclingsa.com/Article.aspx?uid=859 (http://www.cyclingsa.com/Article.aspx?uid=859)


Tour de Free State men's race starting today.

Qhubeka-
Calvin Beneke
Loto Petrus
Meron Russom
Songezo Jim
Jacques Janse van Rensburg

Strong team that.

yeah but reckon there is worse things in the world that running a bike shop in PE. in fact running a bike shop in PE would be very very close to the top of my list of things to do. Maybe do that and be a sports writer...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 26, 2012, 12:43
MTN racing in Europe and South africa today

Lotto has been active in Free state, couple of attacks and think he is off the front now. strong winds apparently and the field getting broken up as a result

in europe they are racing the Tour de Gironde. A group of 16 riders now with a 35" gap over the bunch. Arran Brown, Martin Wesemann, Tsgabu Grmay in the break. Reinardt trying to cross
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 26, 2012, 12:45
Start list for Gironde

http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/IMG/pdf/Liste_des_Partants.pdf (http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/IMG/pdf/Liste_des_Partants.pdf)

todays stage
(http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/IMG/jpg/BANDEAU_DIRECT_E1.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 26, 2012, 12:53
How far to go in Gironde? Could well make it Reinardt, wouldn't want to give him too much leeway.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 26, 2012, 13:11
How far to go in Gironde? Could well make it Reinardt, wouldn't want to give him too much leeway.

early days, stage barely started. Apparently was not Reinardt, was another MTN and did not make it across
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 26, 2012, 13:26
The break in free state

(https://p.twimg.com/At0jcz8CIAA7p2R.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 26, 2012, 13:28
Who's the Qhubeka in the break?

Not the best camera that.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 26, 2012, 13:53
Songezo Jim. now on his own with 25 to go
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 26, 2012, 14:00
Gap is still 1 minute
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 26, 2012, 14:42
Apparently

Rabie wins! Fouche second

no idea what that means
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 26, 2012, 15:07
1st Rabie, 2nd Fouche, 3rd Kachelhoffer all Team Bonitas. 4th Russom MTN-Qhubeka
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 26, 2012, 16:36
He said he was targeting stage wins, not a half bad start.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 27, 2012, 09:08
Tour de free state report here

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/tough-stage-two-tour-de-freee-state/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/tough-stage-two-tour-de-freee-state/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 27, 2012, 09:23
(http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/IMG/jpg/E1_636_WEB-2.jpg)

Bloody Rabo Bloody winning again.


1   174   VAN DER LIJKE Nicky           RB3   
2   173   OLIVIER Daan                   RB3   s.t.   
3   81   FRAISSIGNES Fabien   GSC   @15   
4   127   CANOUET Gilles           USM   @46   
5   95   JANSE VAN                    MTN   @50   
6   101   BLANQUEFORT Sylvain   TOP   @50   
7   132   CORBEL Erwan                   CAM   @56   
8   34   POLUS Piotr Tomasz           OCP   @1.00   
9   121   SZKOLNIK Mickaël           USM   @1.00
10   22   VAN DER WEIJST Geert   CJP   @1.00

13   93   VAN NIEKERK Dennis   MTN   @1.00
47   96   GRMAY Tsgabu                   MTN   @1.11
84   91   BROWN Arran                   MTN   @2.37
101   92   POTGIETER Bradley           MTN   @4.06
105   94   WESEMANN Martin           MTN   @4.34
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 27, 2012, 09:28
Free State is a race won on points, time doesn't really matter.

And Gironde, phurt. Rabo babies win before turning out to be sh*te when it matters at an older age.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 27, 2012, 09:34
well stage 3 has started now so time to start scoring some points
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 27, 2012, 09:36
Last stage too, and what happened in stage 1? If Rabie won that, he has already won the Tour de Free State.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 27, 2012, 09:40
Todays stage

(https://p.twimg.com/At45BLKCQAAAYdP.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 27, 2012, 09:43
Would've made for a half decent photograph with a decent camera no?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 27, 2012, 09:47
Just seen the Free state post in the small races page, Rabie and Bonitas looking good I'd think.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 27, 2012, 10:42
Latest update

Lille (Bonitas) leads from 4 chasers with the peloton of 8 riders 2min behind. Blesbok loop hurting a lot of legs

got to be hard when the peloton is 8 riders
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 27, 2012, 11:14
Good luck to them.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 27, 2012, 12:44
Bonitas winning again

Lille ahead of White and Seyffert.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 28, 2012, 00:40
Tour De Gironde stage 2

(http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/IMG/jpg/E2_2892_WEB.jpg)

Reinardt just beaten in the bunch sprint, Rabos maintain their lead overall.
Two drapac riders got in an early break, but were caught when MTN tried to break things up in the crosswinds. That resulted in a lead group of 50 fighting out for the win, but depsite pulling things back together Reinardt was not able to finish things off.

Selected results below, full results here
http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/spip.php?rubrique1364 (http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/spip.php?rubrique1364)

1   105   PANDELE Sylvain           TOP   
2   95   JANSE VAN                    MTN   @0   
3   46   ZAHNER Simon                   EKZ   @0   
4   22   VAN DER WEIJST Geert   CJP   @0   
5   43   DILLIER Silvan                   EKZ   @0   
6   156   DUTOUR Julien                   ERA   @0
7   2   ABERASTURI IZAGA            ORB   @0   
8   62   MALDONADO Anthony   MSC   @0   
9   34   POLUS Piotr Tomasz    OCP   @0   
10   121   SZKOLNIK Mickaël           USM   @0

32   93   VAN NIEKERK Dennis   MTN   @0
35   144   PHELAN Adam                   DPC   @0
40   147   SHAW Stuart                   DPC   @0
53   142   LAPTHORNE Darren           DPC   @0
61   96   GRMAY Tsgabu                   MTN   @0
65   92   POTGIETER Bradley           MTN   @8
71   91   BROWN Arran                   MTN   @12
78   94   WESEMANN Martin           MTN   @1.21
84   146   RUSLI Amir                   DPC   @5.30
101   145   RUDOLPH Malcom           DPC   @8.21
143   PALMER Thomas                   DPC   Abandon

GC

1   174   VAN DER LIJKE Nicky    RB3   
2   173   OLIVIER Daan                   RB3   @7   
3   81   FRAISSIGNES Fabien   GSC   @21   
4   95   JANSE VAN RENSBURG    MTN   @57   
5   127   CANOUET Gilles           USM   @59   
6   101   BLANQUEFORT Sylvain   TOP   @1.02   
7   132   CORBEL Erwan            CAM   @1.09   
8   46   ZAHNER Simon                   EKZ   @1.09   
9   43   DILLIER Silvan                   EKZ   @1.10   
10   144   PHELAN Adam                   DPC   @1.10

12   142   LAPTHORNE Darren           DPC   @1.11
20   93   VAN NIEKERK Dennis   MTN   @1.13
45   96   GRMAY Tsgabu                   MTN   @1.24
58   147   SHAW Stuart                   DPC   @2.31
62   91   BROWN Arran                   MTN   @2.56
70   92   POTGIETER Bradley           MTN   @4.27
77   94   WESEMANN Martin           MTN   @6.08
83   146   RUSLI Amir                   DPC   @7.38
95   145   RUDOLPH Malcom           DPC   @10.52
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 28, 2012, 00:41
report from stage 3 of tour of the free state

Sounds like a long break away from the Bonitas guy

do not understand the overall

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/mens-stage-three-tour-de-free-state/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/mens-stage-three-tour-de-free-state/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 28, 2012, 00:41
And for something completely different

Qhubeka also sponsor a few BMX riders

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/skizo-105-qualifies-for-olympics/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/skizo-105-qualifies-for-olympics/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 28, 2012, 03:42
Brilliant for them. South Africa get to take two riders for the Olympics MTB cross country. I think that's Niyonshuti's discipline too, he's in the Olympics too.

Just to populate the post, it's all well known, but defo worth it.
2009 Tour Of Ireland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHlvLWyodtY#)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 28, 2012, 07:44
just to confuse matter more, here is a report on Tour De Gironde from the drapac guys. Putting here as the rest of the race stuff is here

Quote
Stage 2 of the Tour de Gironde was a day out for Adam Phelan and Darren Lapthorne.

Both formed a breakaway of only 3 which was created after 60 kilometres and stayed away for over 100 kilometres. As a result they won nearly every sprint on the road with Darren opening his lead in the sprint classification to 14 points and Adam now holds the KOM jersey with a slim lead of 3 points.

Today is the final day stage from St-Pierre D'Aurillac to Villenave D'Ornon and 171.9 kilometres.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 28, 2012, 07:50
Got a ticker for the race to reduce the confusion.
http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/spip.php?rubrique1361 (http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/spip.php?rubrique1361)

The map
(http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/IMG/jpg/TGi_Global_2012_web.jpg)

The race starts at 1:10pm French time
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on May 28, 2012, 11:56
Reinardt just beaten in the bunch sprint, Rabos maintain their lead overall.
Two drapac riders got in an early break, but were caught when MTN tried to break things up in the crosswinds. That resulted in a lead group of 50 fighting out for the win, but depsite pulling things back together Reinardt was not able to finish things off.

Actually Reinardt won the sprint, but the last guy from the break survived with half a wheel...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 28, 2012, 12:01
Indeed the case, Pandele and Zahner, both in the breakaway, coming first and third, and sandwiching Reinardt.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 28, 2012, 12:06
Actually Reinardt won the sprint, but the last guy from the break survived with half a wheel...

Thanks for that, got lazy and gve up trying to get google translate to work on the ticker.

The mtn twitter has an annoying habit of going missing at the endof the race. Guess they get busy but often you end up wondering who won
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 28, 2012, 13:23
Break of the day has formed in Gironde.

Egorov from itera, Oerlemans of Soenens, Loubeau from Occitane, Martin from Aquitaine and Lana from blagnac
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 28, 2012, 13:30
Seems that nearly 50km have passed. Hope the team could curtail the breakaway and not let them stay away. It was 20" with 7km to go in stage 2.

1 minute gap for the breakaway.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 28, 2012, 17:06
Geert Van Der Weijst won stage 3.

Reinardt took the points classification, I'm imagining that he would've finished in the top 3 or so.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 29, 2012, 03:57
A bit about the Tour de Free State-
http://www.bicycling.co.za/race-news/local-racing-news/clean-sweep-for-bonitas-at-tour-de-free-state/ (http://www.bicycling.co.za/race-news/local-racing-news/clean-sweep-for-bonitas-at-tour-de-free-state/)

All too comfortable for Bonitas.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 29, 2012, 05:02
Stage 3 result and overall GC for Tour De Gironde

(http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/IMG/jpg/E3_3747_WEB.jpg)

full results here
http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/spip.php?rubrique1364 (http://assos.villenavedornon.fr/spip.php?rubrique1364)

1 22   VAN DER WEIJST Geert                 CJP   NED   
2 43     DILLIER Silvan                         EKZ   SUI   
3 95     JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt   MTN   RSA   
4 91     BROWN Arran                                 MTN   RSA   
5 174 VAN DER LIJKE Nicky                 RB3   NED   
6 112 TEMNENKO Sergey                         TIK   RUS
7 156 DUTOUR Julien                         ERA   FRA   
8 62     MALDONADO Anthony                 MSC   FRA   
9 181 GARCIN Steven                         VSH   FRA
10 63 VERINI Raphaël                         MSC   FRA   

26 93   VAN NIEKERK Dennis   MTN   RSA   
30 144 PHELAN Adam           DPC   AUS   
37 142 LAPTHORNE Darren   DPC   AUS   
38 147 SHAW Stuart           DPC   AUS
39 145 RUDOLPH Malcom           DPC   AUS   
68 96   GRMAY Tsgabu           MTN   ETH   
72 92   POTGIETER Bradley   MTN   RSA
83 94   WESEMANN Martin   MTN   RSA   

GC
1   174 VAN DER LIJKE Nicky                   RB3   NED   
2   173 OLIVIER Daan                           RB3   NED   
3   81   FRAISSIGNES Fabien                   GSC   FRA   
4   95   JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt   MTN   RSA
5   127 CANOUET Gilles                           USM   FRA   
6   101 BLANQUEFORT Sylvain                   TOP   FRA
7   22   VAN DER WEIJST Geert                   CJP   NED   
8   43   DILLIER Silvan                           EKZ   SUI   
9   83   LANA Guillermo                           GSC   ESP   
10 132 CORBEL Erwan                           CAM   FRA   

13   144   PHELAN Adam                           DPC   AUS   
15   142   LAPTHORNE Darren                   DPC   AUS   
21   93   VAN NIEKERK Dennis           MTN   RSA   
43   96   GRMAY Tsgabu                           MTN   ETH
55   147   SHAW Stuart                           DPC   AUS   
59   91   BROWN Arran                           MTN   RSA
66   92   POTGIETER Bradley                   MTN   RSA   
71   94   WESEMANN Martin                   MTN   RSA   
76   146   RUSLI Amir                           DPC   MAS   
84   145   RUDOLPH Malcom                   DPC   AUS   
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 29, 2012, 06:54
Was Arran leading out Reinardt? Wonder if it were the other way around.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 29, 2012, 10:55
Team for Eritrea

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/team-mtn-qhubeka-aims-to-take-top-honours-at-tour-of-eritrea/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/team-mtn-qhubeka-aims-to-take-top-honours-at-tour-of-eritrea/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 29, 2012, 11:10
Russom then Tewelde, surely. Interesting to see the role Jacques plays.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 30, 2012, 23:47
Going to cover the tour of eritrea here seeing as there is virtually no information on the race

Rwanda have a team going
http://allafrica.com/stories/201205300131.html (http://allafrica.com/stories/201205300131.html)

Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 30, 2012, 23:52
(http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Jani-Feature-Image.jpg)

 :win Tewelde takes the first stage for MTN  :win

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/mtn-qhubekas-jani-tewelde-wins-stage-1-of-tour-of-eritrea/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/mtn-qhubekas-jani-tewelde-wins-stage-1-of-tour-of-eritrea/)

Mekseb Debesay (Red Sea Camels), what a great name for a team, came in second and Yemane Bereket (Eritrean National Team) was third ahead of MTN's Tesfay Habtemariam.

illustrating the joys of african cycling, Meron Russom finished 51 seconds back after having to ride on a old bike when his MTN bike failed to arrive at the race.

Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 30, 2012, 23:58
Brief description of stages here
http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/team-mtn-qhubeka-aims-to-take-top-honours-at-tour-of-eritrea/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/team-mtn-qhubeka-aims-to-take-top-honours-at-tour-of-eritrea/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 31, 2012, 03:15
(http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Jani-Feature-Image.jpg)

 :win Tewelde takes the first stage for MTN  :win

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/mtn-qhubekas-jani-tewelde-wins-stage-1-of-tour-of-eritrea/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/mtn-qhubekas-jani-tewelde-wins-stage-1-of-tour-of-eritrea/)

Mekseb Debesay (Red Sea Camels), what a great name for a team, came in second and Yemane Bereket (Eritrean National Team) was third ahead of MTN's Tesfay Habtemariam.

illustrating the joys of african cycling, Meron Russom finished 51 seconds back after having to ride on a old bike when his MTN bike failed to arrive at the race.
Well played Meron
Tewelde :win

Tewelde for the GC now.
Is this Debesay related, in any way, to Ferqalsi Debesay?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 31, 2012, 10:57
Photo history from Tour of Eritrea

http://www.worldpressphoto.org/photo/2011chriskeulensps3-al (http://www.worldpressphoto.org/photo/2011chriskeulensps3-al)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 31, 2012, 11:07
where?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 31, 2012, 11:17
Update from MTN

 :win

Quote
Results from Tour of Eritrea Stage 2: 1st Jacques Janse van Rensburg. He now leads GC and points competition.

Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 31, 2012, 11:18
where?

there
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 31, 2012, 11:25
Now Jacques squashing the competition like mosquitoes.

www.jacquesjansevanrensburgtoruletheworld.com (http://www.jacquesjansevanrensburgtoruletheworld.com)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on May 31, 2012, 19:30
Photo history from Tour of Eritrea

http://www.worldpressphoto.org/photo/2011chriskeulensps3-al (http://www.worldpressphoto.org/photo/2011chriskeulensps3-al)
Loving some of the photographs, Russom in his Eritrean strip in particular.

Stage 2 report (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/mtn-qhubekas-janse-van-rensburg-wins-stage-2-of-tour-of-eritrea/)

60km :o

Tewelde 25 minutes behind, that prediction went well. Russom's not even visible.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on May 31, 2012, 22:41
Loving some of the photographs, Russom in his Eritrean strip in particular.

Stage 2 report (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/05/mtn-qhubekas-janse-van-rensburg-wins-stage-2-of-tour-of-eritrea/)

60km :o

Tewelde 25 minutes behind, that prediction went well. Russom's not even visible.

guess Russom may still be having bike issues

60 km that is south american style climbing, in massive heat as well. sounds like a nasty climb. is gutting that races like this get so little coverage. can only hope some video comes out as there has been highlights of other years
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 01, 2012, 03:30
It's only 4%, just the 2400 metres altitude that would've been a difference there.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 02, 2012, 04:01
video of the first three stages

http://blip.tv/asmarino5/video-2012-cycling-tour-of-eritrea-stage-1-3-6180233 (http://blip.tv/asmarino5/video-2012-cycling-tour-of-eritrea-stage-1-3-6180233)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 02, 2012, 05:16
Riding Ronde Van Zeeland Seaports in a weeks time

http://velorooms.com/mens-road-cycling/ronde-van-zeeland-seaports/msg35126/#msg35126 (http://velorooms.com/mens-road-cycling/ronde-van-zeeland-seaports/msg35126/#msg35126)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 03, 2012, 03:22
Stage 3 result

01.06. Stage 3: Asmara - Keren
1 Tesfom Okbamariam (Eri) 2:14:24
2 Mekseb Debesay (Eri)
3 Daniel Teklay (Eri) 0:00:07
4 Freqalsi Abrha (Eri) National Eritrea 0:00:08
5 Meron Amanuel (Eri) Eritrea national team   
6 Tesfay Abrhaha Habtemariam (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka   
7 Solomun Habte Abrha (Eri) National Eritrea   
8 Azzadine Lagab (Alg) Algeria National Team   
9 Jani Tewelde Weldegaber (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka   
10 Berlouet Yemane (Eri) National Eritrea   

12 Jacques Janse Van Rensburg (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka   
18 Meran Russan (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka 0:03:07
22 Calvin Beneke (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka   

GC

1 Jacques Janse Van Rensburg (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka 8:31:25
2 Azzadine Lagab (Alg) Algeria National Team 0:00:55
3 Freqalsi Abrha (Eri) National Eritrea 0:01:46
4 Tesfom Okbamariam (Eri) 0:03:36
5 Berlouet Yemane (Eri) National Eritrea 0:03:44
6 Dawit Araya (Eri) 0:03:52
7 Tesfay Abrhaha Habtemariam (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka 0:10:20
8 Knoshih Debesay (Eri) 0:10:22
9 Elias Afewerki (Eri) National Eritrea 12:15:14
10 Avith Gebremedhin (Eri) National Eritrea 0:18:10
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 03, 2012, 03:25
Stage 4 result

Another stage another MTN win. Tewelde gets his second stage

02.06. Stage 4: Keren - Asmara

1 Jani Tewelde Weldegaber Eri MTN - Qhubeka 2:44:57
2 Hichem Chaabane Alg Algeria National Team   
3 Dawit Araya Eri 0:00:03
4 Solomun Habte Abrha Eri Eritrea National Team   
5 Tesfay Abrhaha Habtemariam Eri MTN - Qhubeka 0:01:44
6 Freqalsi Abrha Eri Eritrea national team   
7 Meron Amanuel Eri National Eritrea   
8 Azzadine Lagab Alg Algeria National Team   
9 Avith Gebremedhin Eri National Eritrea   
10 Berlouet Yemane Eri Eritrea National Team   
11 Jacques Janse Van Rensburg RSA MTN - Qhubeka   
13 Meran Russan Eri MTN - Qhubeka 0:02:32
27 Calvin Beneke RSA MTN - Qhubeka

GC
1 Jacques Janse Van Rensburg RSA MTN - Qhubeka 11:18:06
2 Azzadine Lagab Alg Algeria National Team 0:00:55
3 Freqalsi Abrha Eri Eritrea National Team 0:01:46
4 Dawit Araya Eri 0:02:11
5 Tesfom Okbamariam Eri 0:03:36
6 Berlouet YemaneEri National Eritrea 0:03:44
7 Tesfay Abrhaha Habtemariam ErI MTN - Qhubeka 0:10:20
8 Solomun Habte Abrha Eri Eritrea National Team 0:16:52
9 Elias AfewerkiEri Eritrea National Team 0:17:26
10 Knoshih Debesay Eri 0:17:39
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 03, 2012, 03:26
MTN report for stage 4

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/06/2nd-stage-win-for-mtn-qhubekas-tewelde-at-tour-of-eritrea/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/06/2nd-stage-win-for-mtn-qhubekas-tewelde-at-tour-of-eritrea/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 03, 2012, 03:53
Tables man, that's hardly readable. Safe to assume that Eritreans riding for the unmentioned team be the Red Sea Camels?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 04, 2012, 00:29
Video from stage 4

http://blip.tv/asmarino5/cycling-tour-eritrea-pt4-6181615 (http://blip.tv/asmarino5/cycling-tour-eritrea-pt4-6181615)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 04, 2012, 00:38
Another stage not another MTN win. Despite the confusing names in the results sheet the Debesay brothers won the stage crossing the line together nearly 40 seconds ahead of the field. Mekseb got the stage win and Freqalsi gets the points jersey as a result of his second place.  Jacques Janse van Rensburg holds on to become the first non Eritrean to win the race. Freqalsi took second overall after mechanical issues for Algerian Lagab.

Video from the stage here
http://blip.tv/asmarino5/video-mekseb-and-frekalsi-debesay-win-stage-5-cycling-tour-of-eritrea-2012-6182878 (http://blip.tv/asmarino5/video-mekseb-and-frekalsi-debesay-win-stage-5-cycling-tour-of-eritrea-2012-6182878)

report from MTN Qhubeka here
http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/06/mtn-qhubekas-janse-van-rensburg-wins-tour-of-eritrea/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/06/mtn-qhubekas-janse-van-rensburg-wins-tour-of-eritrea/)

03.06. Stage 5: Asmara - Asmara (146.5 miles)

1 Mekseb Debesay (Eri) 3:18:44
2 Freqalsi Abrha (Eri) Eritrea national team   
3 Tesfay Abrhaha Habtemariam (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka 0:00:37
4 Tesfom Okbamariam ( Eri)
5 Elias Afewerki (Eri) Eritrea national team   
6 Meron Amanuel (Eri) Eritrea national team   
7 Berlouet Yemane (Eri) Eritrea National Team   
8 Ali Abdalla (Egy) Egypt National Team   
9 Jani Tewelde Weldegaber (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka   
10 Hailemichael Akale (Eri)
11 Jacques Janse Van Rensburg (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka   
16 Calvin Beneke (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka   
17 Meran Russan (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka 0:00:52

Final overall standings

1 Jacques Janse Van Rensburg (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka 14:37:27
2 Freqalsi Abrha(Eri) Eritrea National Team 0:01:09
3 Azzadine Lagab (Alg) Algeria National Team 0:02:32
4 Tesfom Okbamariam (Eri) 0:03:36
5 Berlouet Yemane (Eri) National Eritrea 0:03:44
6 Dawit Araya (Eri) 0:03:48
7 Tesfay Abrhaha Habtemariam ( Eri) MTN - Qhubeka 0:10:20
8 Solomun Habte Abrha (Eri) National Eritrea 0:16:52
9 Elias Afewerki (Eri) National Eritrea 0:17:26
10 Knoshih Debesay (Eri) 00:19:16
11 Avith Gebremedhin (Eri) Eritrea National Team 0:19:47
12 Meron Amanuel (Eri) Eritrea National Team 0:20:27
13 Mekseb Debesay (Eri) 0:21:26
14 Meran Russan (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka 0:22:12
15 Hailemichael Akale (Eri) 0:22:38
16 Jani Tewelde Weldegaber (Eri) MTN - Qhubeka 0:23:40
17 Abraham Ruhumuriza (Rwa) Rwanda National Team 0:38:17
18 Hichem Chaabane (Alg) Algeria National Team 12:38: 45
19 Daniel Teklay (Eri) 0:39:01
20 Nicodemus Habiyambere (Rwa) Rwanda National Team 0:45:48
21 Joseph Biziyaremye (Rwa) Rwanda National Team 0:49:41
22 Nathan Byukusenge (Rwa) Rwanda National 00:52: 17
23 Add Alla Mohamed Sherif Mohamed (Egy) Egypt National Team 0:52:28
24 Ali Abdalla (Egy) Egypt National Team 0:54:59
25 Calvin Beneke (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka 0:55:59
26 Hadjbouzit Karim (Alg) Algeria National Team 1:02:42
27 Bilal Saada (Alg) Algeria National Team 1:07:17
28 Amr Mahmoud Ahmed (Egy) Egypt National Team 1:07:23
29 Ahmed Aalaa (Egy) Egypt National Team 1:07:36
30 Emanuel Rudahunga (Rwa) Rwanda National Team 1:08:22
31 Janvier Hadi (Rwa) Rwanda National Team 1:18:14
32 Mahmoud Mohamed Ahmed Mohamed El Hady Tehemar (Egy) Egypt National Team 1:19:53
33 Lotto Petrus (Nam) MTN - Qhubeka 1:24:08
34 Walid Salah Ali (Alg) Algeria National Team 1:30:38
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 04, 2012, 03:38
Was about to post this yesterday, travelling back didn't help.

Decent win, but didn't they want one of the Eritreans to win?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 05, 2012, 04:21
Not quite Qhubeka, but the Kwita Izina tour later this week. Kwita Izina is the tradition of naming a new born gorilla apparently. Not much info about the cycling race apart from the fact that it's on the 9th and 10th, from Kigali to Musanze.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 05, 2012, 05:07
Not much info on it. surprisingly the UCI calendar has changed since i copied info off it yesterday

this is all i could find

http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15000&a=53887 (http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15000&a=53887)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 07, 2012, 07:29
Reinardt won a crit in Germany last night apparently
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Jono L. on June 07, 2012, 12:46
Reinardt won a crit in Germany last night apparently

From one of the Marco Polo managers who still races
Quote
night race in Gelsenkirchen, Formula 1 on bicycles, 47+ average, I could only attack once, the last 10 laps. Recovered but didn't get into the hectic sprint preparation. Towards the last corner I had a good jump, but got blocked by a scared rider. Then I sprinted behind the prices, around 25th.
Impressive victory by Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg!
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 07, 2012, 16:46
flipping hell. Well played Reinardt.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 09, 2012, 13:12
Riding Ronde van Zeeland

http://velorooms.com/mens-road-cycling/ronde-van-zeeland-seaports/ (http://velorooms.com/mens-road-cycling/ronde-van-zeeland-seaports/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 09, 2012, 15:51
flip yeah, Reinardt!
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 10, 2012, 10:20
Azzedine Lagab won the Kwita Izina tour ahead of Abraham Ruhumuriza.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 11, 2012, 12:14
Kwita Izina results
Stage 1a
Position Name Time
1 LAGAB Azzedine 3h02'36"
2 RUHUMURIZA Abraham
3 KAB Hicham 52"
4 BYUKUSENGE Nathan 01'32"
5 GEBREHANS Mulubrhan 01'32"
6 HABIYAMBERE Nicodem 02'56"
7 HADI Janvier 03'00"
8 HATEGEKA Gasore 03'00"
9 HATFU ROBEL Gebremariam 03'00"
10 RUDAHUNGA Emanuel 03'00"

Stage 1b
Position Name Time
1 RUHUMURIZA Abraham 1h33'00"
2 LAGAB Azzedine 03"
3 BIZIYAREMYE Joseph 03"
4 HADI Janvier 07"
5 CHABANE Hichem 07"
6 GEBRESLASSIE Yonas Zerabruk 07"
7 ATSBHA Getachew 07"
8 HABIYAMBERE Nicodem 07"
9 GEBREHANS Mulubrhan 07"

Stage 2

Position Name Time
1 BIZIYAREMYE Joseph 4h34'23"
2 ATSBHA Getachew 02'46"
3 HATFU ROBEL Gebremariam 02'46"
4 GEBREHANS Mulubrhan 02'48"
5 BYUKUSENGE Nathan 02'48"
6 LAGAB Azzedine 02'56"   
7 RUHUMURIZA Abraham 02'56"
8 RUDAHUNGA Emanuel 03'05"
9 KATHURIMA Ayub 03'05"
10 CHABANE Hichem 03'11"


Final GC
Position Name Time
1 RUHUMURIZA Abraham 9h12'55"
2 LAGAB Azzedine 03"
3 BIZIYAREMYE Josephz 07"
4 CHABANE Hichem 01'14"
5 GEBREHANS Mulubrhan 01'31"
6 BYUKUSENGE Nathan 01'31"
7 HATFU ROBEL Gebremariam 02'53"
8 RUDAHUNGA Emanuel 03'16"
9 HADI Janvier 03'34"
10 HATEGEKA Gasore 04'20"
11 GEBRESLASSIE Yonas Zerabruk 04'43"
12 ATSBHA Getachew 06'09"
13 RUKUNDO Hassan 07'45"
14 HABIYAMBERE Nicodem 14'54"
15 KIMELI Simon 16'39"
16 KATHURIMA Ayub 17'01"
17 ECHWA EKIRU Joseph 20'20"
18 YAHMI Abdenour 22'50"
19 BINTUNIMANA Emile 23'45"
20 LAIZER Richard Laningo 26'12"
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on June 14, 2012, 19:08
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/news.velonation.com/Men/Road/Ja_Jl/2011/original/Janse_van_Rensburg_Reinard_SunT11_st2-1.jpg)

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12118/Video-Reinardt-Janse-van-Rensburg-reflects-on-successful-season-thus-far.aspx (http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12118/Video-Reinardt-Janse-van-Rensburg-reflects-on-successful-season-thus-far.aspx)

Reinardt Janse van Rensburg interview about strong 2012 season (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74aMKQshRXU#)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 14, 2012, 19:16
Quote
“I was outnumbered by Rabobank but I still pulled off the win, beating Lars Boom. He was one of my heroes growing up,” Janse van Rensburg said with a grin on his face.
I hope it was a smirk rather than a smile. Boom's only 4 years older, otherwise the Dutch age slower than the South Africans.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Tuart on June 15, 2012, 03:37
Good to hear he's being courted by some WT teams!
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 15, 2012, 03:48
Could depend on them possibly getting Pro Conti next year, though I think that they're still a bit weak for that apart from Reinardt. I just hope he doesn't go to a team where he'll do sweet flip all apart from helper duties.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Tuart on June 15, 2012, 04:07
No, MTN going Pro-Conti would not really be reasonable, would have to change/upgrade their entire squad. Letting the riders develop and have experience in Europe the way they are doing now is great.

As for Reinardt what would you expect from a rider making the jump two divisions up? At least for the first season, being a domestique, learning to ride in stronger pelotons, free role occasionally to get in the break, would all the be necessarily a bad thing to start of with? And there's still the SSRs that WT teams go in, I'm sure he'd be motivated to ride well in those against his former competitors :D
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 15, 2012, 05:06
Which was my point really, Qhubeka going pro conti.

Rather seem him as leader than sh*tting away. Especially if he ends up as a leading out a Farrar like waste. Mind, it's only my preference.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 18, 2012, 17:42
PPC KREMETART report. One day, 4 stages, 175km in total

http://tasolgt.co.za/2012/06/11/solid-team-performance-at-ppc-kremetart-to-secure-a-win-for-maree/ (http://tasolgt.co.za/2012/06/11/solid-team-performance-at-ppc-kremetart-to-secure-a-win-for-maree/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 18, 2012, 18:37
Karnataka? Can't be arsed, it's all about Tamil Nadu.

There is a race in the next couple of days though 8)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 22, 2012, 06:58
Have always said i liked MTN

(http://www.cyclenation.co.za/images/stories/2012/events/lecoqtour/two/IMG_8038.JPG)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 22, 2012, 07:30
Indeed sir
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 27, 2012, 07:35
spanish interview with the main man

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=52837 (http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=52837)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on June 27, 2012, 19:53
Quote
The team MTN, South African continental set, is finishing the final details of the party that organized tonight in Johannesburg. The event, which have been invited major South African cycling authorities, will be held at the Monte Casino Ball from 19 hours of today.

MTN has been in recent years a benchmark for cycling in South Africa and today will make an important announcement for the development of cycling not only at home but throughout the continent. Also, do not forget that MTN has teams of mountain biking and females and that its staff have grown talent as Janse van Rensburg REINARDT, represented by VELOFUTUR corridor and one of the squad laurados cyclists worldwide.

MTN In 2012 the team has taken a leap in its internationalization. And despite remaining in the continental category has traveled to Europe to play a number of professional competitions in France, Belgium, Holland ... in the first period to be completed in August and September, among others, the Tour of Portugal.

going pro-conti next year ?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 27, 2012, 20:18
Not sure. It's a huge call is going pro conti, are they really strong enough? What will that mean for the team? They have a quota policy, which I'm not a fan of, to be honest, and will that be dropped if the compulsions of Pro Continental demand? Or will they be able to compete with the dodgy quota system in the Pro Continental level? I'd like to see Reinardt lead in major races than be a workhorse for someone else, but I don't think the team Qhubeka are quite ready for that quantum leap.

I'd much rather see Qhubeka develop cycling among the less privileged, which is the aim of Qhubeka (not the MTN part), than manufacture a team with quotas.

What about the next talent from the land, Meintjes. He's a fine TT prospect, but where will he end up?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 28, 2012, 00:10
Yep it was the move to pro conti

interestingly seems to have been news to some with Arran Brown tweeting wow at the news

some photos from the event from the MTN twitter

(http://c0014364.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_d24469f)

(http://c0014364.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_d2430ac)

big phil rambling as always
(http://c0014364.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_d2407bf)

UCI president
(http://c0014364.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_d24051f)

the team
(http://c0014364.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_d23d9f0)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 28, 2012, 01:06
Good for them. I'm guessing they'll be looking to be at most 2.HCs next year. What about the WT events? Will the Ardennes organisers ignore them?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Tuart on June 28, 2012, 01:16
Unless their squad gets a major overhaul I would.

Any link to details about this quota system ram?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 28, 2012, 01:20
Ah, can't seem to remember the link now, I read it a few months ago now.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 28, 2012, 03:15
Tuart, the closest I could find.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mtn-qhubeka-targets-2015-tour-de-france (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mtn-qhubeka-targets-2015-tour-de-france)

Quote
In accordance with UCI rules, the team is mainly composed of South African riders. Ryder has, however, a more demanding internal policy: "between 50 and 60% of the athletes must be black African riders." For this reason, he is investing money in the development of some of the raw talents from Sub-Saharan countries.

Quote
The 50% black African roster meant some of riders had to leave the team last year, like Dilan Girdlestone and James Tennent, respectively third overall and stage winner in the Tour of Rwanda, a very mountainous 2.2 race.

I remember reading about it somewhere else though.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Tuart on June 28, 2012, 03:22
Gee, wanting to develop black African talent is one thing but yeah you're right this is another. And what if he gets his wish for the TDF? People were complaining about Katusha before, imagine this...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 28, 2012, 03:26
Part of the point is meant to be to encourage and ensure there are chances for riders that would not have had chances in the past and may not have the same opportunities elsewhere

it is too easy to look at the policies in South African sport now and say it is not fair but you have consider them in the context of history
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on June 28, 2012, 03:29
Sure, and affirmative measures definitely need to be taken to develop South African talent, but why does it apply for all African nations? It's still a bit unfair for South Africans like Tennent.

Also, won't it be most effective for these measure to be at the domestic level?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 28, 2012, 03:32
I think they like to distinguish themselves as African rather than south african

partly due to other stuff they do but also so they can claim to be different from say Barloworld
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on June 28, 2012, 08:13
oh and another photo of their big night showing one of their qhubeka bikes

(https://p.twimg.com/AwdWh8uCAAI0OUh.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on July 06, 2012, 11:07
Their telly ad

Team MTN-Qhubeka TV Advert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmYVbW5yisc#)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on July 11, 2012, 15:23
Been a bit quiet round these parts-
http://tasolgt.co.za/2012/07/11/maree-makes-it-3-from-5-for-tasol/ (http://tasolgt.co.za/2012/07/11/maree-makes-it-3-from-5-for-tasol/)

Tasol having a mentalist time.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on July 19, 2012, 11:45
MTN doing what sounds like a pro am race this weekend. Bit of a warm up before they head back to Europe

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/07/jock-cycle-classic-lures-mtn-qhubeka/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/07/jock-cycle-classic-lures-mtn-qhubeka/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on July 19, 2012, 13:49
One of the bigger pro am races around in South Africa. Should have some coverage.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on July 25, 2012, 02:52
(http://i.imgur.com/sI7l1.jpg)

Lynette Burger won the overall Elite women’s title at the 2012 Jock Cycle Tour in Barberton on Saturday.



Lynette Burger continued her run of peak form when she won the overall Elite women’s title at the 2012 Best Med Jock Cycle Tour in Barberton on Saturday.

Widely considered South Africa’s toughest one-day race, ‘The Jock’, now run over three stages, totaling 153km, is a coveted race on the South African professional race calendar. And for Burger, who races for the Toyota CSA Academy team, it turned into a challenge both on and off the bike, but ultimately gave the 31-year-old her first ever win in the iconic race.

Once again, the women raced with the 50-plus veteran men. The first stage, a 48km leg from Barberton to Nelspruit, saw MTN Qhubeka’s An-Li Pretorius and Karien Alberts make a strong start, claiming first and second places respectively. Burger, who was dropped on the famous ‘Hilltop’ climb, just failed to reach the lead group by the finish, but managed to claim third place, a few seconds adrift.

The demanding second stage, a 58km haul from Nelspruit to Kaapmuiden over the testing ‘Boulders’ climb saw the field splinter dramatically. An eager Pretorius raced aggressively from the start and only Burger and Lee-Zaan Henrichsen (EOH) were able to stay in contact with her. Pretorius then moved clear over the top of Boulders and it required a hard effort for Burger to rejoin the leading group just before the start of the descent.
“None of the 50+ men wanted to help me get back, not making it easy at all but I managed to claw my way back to the front and got back on just before the descent. And I immediately attacked on the first corner of the descent,” explained Burger.

“I am very comfortable going downhill especially with loads of corners, so I managed to open a gap and stayed away till the finish, making up for the time I lost on the first stage and gaining a couple of seconds,” added Burger.

Pretorius finished the stage in second place and Henrichsen was third.

The final stage, a 53km leg from Kaapmuiden to Barberton, was started under a cloud of confusion. The race officials had Pretorius as the overall leader by five seconds over Burger on elapsed time. But according to Burger’s team manager, David Pieterse, it was Burger who should have been leading into the final stage.
Alberts won the final leg ahead of Burger with Pretorius in third, giving MTN Qhubeka their second stage win. But it was Burger who was declared the overall winner. Once the officials had examined the finish line camera footage of Stage 2 – at the request of Burger – they determined that Toyota CSA Academy rider had actually won the overall title from Pretorius by two seconds.

“I guess over three stages and 153km, two seconds is like a couple of metres, but a win is a win. I am so happy, I’ve always dreamed about winning The Jock but never thought that it was possible. I guess anything is possible as long as you set your mind to it,” smiled an elated Burger, who will now focus on winning a medal at the Masters World Championships in Pietermaritzburg next month in the 30-34 age category.



http://www.thehubsa.co.za/forum/topic/114958-jock-cycle-classic/page__st__64 (http://www.thehubsa.co.za/forum/topic/114958-jock-cycle-classic/page__st__64)
Pretty tough race for an amateur considering the heat and the climbing.


There was a fire too
Photo- http://www.thehubsa.co.za/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=130783 (http://www.thehubsa.co.za/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=130783)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on July 25, 2012, 12:17
Seems like the next race, the lowveld tour, is a long and toughish race despite a lack of mountains in the region.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Jono L. on July 27, 2012, 11:35
Qhubeka are going pro conti next year 'parently. Not sure if this is part of the rumour mill yet.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on July 27, 2012, 11:40
Aye, it was doing the rounds for a while, and I think they announced it somewhere in June, what with that gala then.

Should be interesting, how strong will they be? And will this move mean Reinardt stays and Arran Brown's the other really good prospect in that team.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on August 01, 2012, 10:14
Jacques won the Jock Cycle classic for men ahead of Debesai.

http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/07/mtn-qhubeka-cinches-double-podium-at-jock-cycle-classic/ (http://www.qhubeka.org/2012/2012/07/mtn-qhubeka-cinches-double-podium-at-jock-cycle-classic/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 01, 2012, 17:39
And also, they have qualified for the TTT Worlds in September. 8)
Now I have to go to Limburg...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on August 02, 2012, 00:10
And also, they have qualified for the TTT Worlds in September. 8)
Now I have to go to Limburg...

That's great hopefully we actually get to see them race
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on August 02, 2012, 02:08
Good stuff, explains all the TTT practice they've been putting in.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on August 02, 2012, 10:26
Just wondered idly about how the pronunciation police (espesh those who trash commentators over minute errors) will handle Qhubeka. I'm sure you'll be in a better spot, Dinzy, but I've heard Qh being pronounced as a click of the tongue and not Kh in Zulu.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on August 02, 2012, 12:24
Just wondered idly about how the pronunciation police (espesh those who trash commentators over minute errors) will handle Qhubeka. I'm sure you'll be in a better spot, Dinzy, but I've heard Qh being pronounced as a click of the tongue and not Kh in Zulu.

Yeah guess it depends on who is saying it. My understanding is it is a xhosa word and in xhosa qh would be click. I know there aredifferent clicks. Apparently both my sister and i could make / understand the clicks when very young but now have no idea.

It is alsoa zulu word, in their tv ad i think the kid at the end says qhubeka in zulu. It is the last word, when subtitle says move on. Cannot do link right now as on ipad

In the end though a saffer journo confirmed it is Q - beka as far as the team goes.

They are a cool group, similar work to thezambian bike charity i sponsor, so worth reading up, or watching one of their youtube videos to see there is more to team than just racing
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on August 02, 2012, 12:52
Cheers. The ad's on here somewhere btw.

Aye, pretty grouse group, and it's why I call them that rather than MTN usually.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 11, 2012, 08:39
They've signed their first European rider: Ignatas Konovalovas. 8)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on September 11, 2012, 17:23
Been going international with some of their staff signings, it was only a matter of time, and can't  bad either

Quote
Brent Copeland and Thomas Campana to the management team. Brent Copeland joins the team as General Manager. The South African spent ten years with the Lampre squad as a Directeur Sportif and more recently has worked with Moto GP rider Ben Spies. Thomas Campana was the manager for Cervélo Test Team and put the team together impressively in just a matter of months. He is an expert on the logistical side of professional cycling and is responsible for recruiting the European riders to MTN-Qhubeka. Jens Zemke has had a major impact on the team this season and will remain the Head Directeur Sportif.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on September 25, 2012, 18:06
Johann Van Zyl signs for MTN. Louis Meintjes has been confirmed.

Do we assume they'll be doing more European races? Wonder where they'll base their service course.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on September 25, 2012, 18:07
They'll be based in Italy.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 26, 2012, 07:36
They'll be based in Italy.
That's odd, considering they've always been based in Belgium for their European campaigns the last few years.

Van Zyl and Meintjes are logical signings, I hope they continue to develop.
Now we only need a proper South African UCI stage race again...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on September 26, 2012, 07:47
Here you are-
Quote
“It’s very exciting for us,” says Ryder. “It’s a big step for the team and for African cycling. We’ll be basing our team in Italy and we’re looking forward to taking on some of the sport’s bigger teams. African athletes have proved that they are the best middle-distance runners in the world and we’re looking forward to showing that African cyclists can compete at the highest levels of the sport very successfully too.”

http://www.roadtolondon2012.co.za/2012/09/19/sa-based-outfit-hold-their-own-at-uci-world-road-championships/ (http://www.roadtolondon2012.co.za/2012/09/19/sa-based-outfit-hold-their-own-at-uci-world-road-championships/)

Might be a few reasons, Brent Copeland's signing as European manager would be one of the main for mine.

70% African they say, so maybe space for another couple of Europeans.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on September 26, 2012, 10:11
Trailer of the doco about Niyonshuti, Jock Boyer and efforts in Rwanda cycling. Should be a good un. Do hope that they have a mention of Godfrey Gahemba.
Rising From Ashes on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/15464226)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on September 26, 2012, 14:58
Samsung sponsoring the team next year, and the team's budget is said to be 3 mill euros.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Anthony Moan on September 26, 2012, 15:23
Could I ask after 6 months what this thread is really about, thanks 8)?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on September 26, 2012, 15:27
Some water buffaloes, some zebras, and some bicycles in them.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Havetts on September 26, 2012, 19:52
That is great news! :tu
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on September 26, 2012, 19:58
That is great news! :tu

+1. Good sponsor to bring into cycling.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on September 27, 2012, 01:08
Ah, I thought he meant that water buffaloes were great news.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Anthony Moan on September 27, 2012, 08:29
Some water buffaloes, some zebras, and some bicycles in them.
Aha I see ;D
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on September 27, 2012, 13:28
seems another MTN team announcement due tonight
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Zam on October 01, 2012, 10:20
Spazio have something on him.

http://www.spaziociclismo.it/?action=read&idnotizia=22857 (http://www.spaziociclismo.it/?action=read&idnotizia=22857)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on October 10, 2012, 15:29
Cheers dude.

In 2013, he will be working with the expanded men’s team. “We will be running two racing squads, racing a dual programme,” Campbell explains, “So our riders will be split across two different continents at any given time. It’s going to be a busy racing year for us.”

Stating the obvious, but at least it's explicit. Campbell will work with the squad in Africa.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 02, 2012, 05:44
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/11/analysis/africas-mtn-qhubeka-pushing-into-europe-aims-to-race-the-vuelta-in-2014_263219 (http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/11/analysis/africas-mtn-qhubeka-pushing-into-europe-aims-to-race-the-vuelta-in-2014_263219)

MILAN (VN) — MTN-Qhubeka is moving towards becoming the first African team to race in a grand tour. If all goes well, the South African team will debut in a three-week race in 2014 — and perhaps sooner, as the Vuelta a España is showing interest for next season.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 02, 2012, 05:58
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/11/analysis/africas-mtn-qhubeka-pushing-into-europe-aims-to-race-the-vuelta-in-2014_263219 (http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/11/analysis/africas-mtn-qhubeka-pushing-into-europe-aims-to-race-the-vuelta-in-2014_263219)

MILAN (VN) — MTN-Qhubeka is moving towards becoming the first African team to race in a grand tour. If all goes well, the South African team will debut in a three-week race in 2014 — and perhaps sooner, as the Vuelta a España is showing interest for next season.

YAY!
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 02, 2012, 06:09
2013's too early. Could wait another year easily.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 02, 2012, 06:34
2013's too early. Could wait another year easily.

How so?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 02, 2012, 06:53
Don't see them doing too much. They'll send Pardilla, as leader most probably, Jay Thompson, Jacques and maybe Ciolek as the token sprinter, Konovalovas and maybe Russom, but not too much apart from that at all. Certainly don't want to be seeing them risk Meintjes for a 3 week race so early. Much rather it's taken step by step now.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 02, 2012, 06:57
I see, thanks.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 02, 2012, 14:50
Also posted this under Small Races 2012 - not sure where it belongs TBH..

and not sure if this has been posted already, didn't see it, but the app's a bit restrictive re overall view - but quite eezypeezy to use, though :-)

"@TeamMTNQhubeka: ready for the MTN OFM Classic on Sunday?
Our Men’s Line-up consists of:
Arran Brown Brad Potgieter.. http://t.co/KxdHn8Hp"
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 02, 2012, 15:12
Will keep it here. Taihu lake is a bit moe important atm.

Last race before the continentals, Im, guessing. Should be a stroll if MTN go full tilt, unless Bonitas or if lucky Tasol rain on some parades
(http://i.imgur.com/iQdQA.jpg)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 02, 2012, 15:15
Will keep it here. Taihu lake is a bit moe important atm. Should be a stroll if MTN go full tilt
(http://i.imgur.com/iQdQA.jpg)

Cool. Yeah, hope it will be :-)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 03, 2012, 23:16
It states "Central South Africa's biggest cycling race" on their site :-)

http://www.ofm.co.za/event/4/The-MTN-OFM-Classic

(PS The MTB leg of the event was held on the Saturday, and "@GrootLem: Cherise Stander @taylorchick1 winning women mtb race here in Bloem @MTNofmclassic")

I know @GrootLem personally, he's involved with these sort of events MC-ing etc - I will ask him if he gets time for some pics or perhaps a live tweet or two during the event, if anyone is interested, I could pass them on :-) I'm not aware of any streams??
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 03, 2012, 23:58
Looks like tweets could be on @mtnofmclassic - although am deffo not sure if actual live tweets, or rather just general event tweets - here is some more detail via Cycle Lab (former professional cyclist Andrew McLean's site - he commentates for Supersport)

http://www.cyclelab.com/OnLine%20Entries.aspx?type=Road%20Events

Can't believe Supersport's not airing it :-( Schande! Ok, peace out.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 04, 2012, 01:01
No telecast. no streams. It is a proper tiny race tbh. May get a splutter of a few photographs here and there.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 04:26
No telecast. no streams. It is a proper tiny race tbh. May get a splutter of a few photographs here and there.

Yeah, I gave a good laugh when I read "Central South Africa's biggest cycling race" on their site.

Haven't heard back from Hendrik either, left it a bit late to contact him, I randomly checked his tweets last night & saw he was there.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 04:55
"@MTNOFMClassic: Let's Ride! #cycling"

Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 04:58
"@GrootLem: HB Kruger and Bradley Potgieter with a minute after 40km #ofm"
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 05:02
“@GrootLem: Organized the MTN dancing girls to wake up @ReinardtvRnsbrg @TeamMTNQhubeka #ofm"

Bit random, but that's Hendrik's humour..
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:01
“@TeamMTNQhubeka: 82km done and the bunch in one long cutter line to try and bridge back the group of about 20rider. To confirm. Elite men”
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:02
“@TeamMTNQhubeka: The front group split into 2  groups now 13 leaders 2 chasers. The rest back in the bunch. 90km done. Ofm elite men”
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:04
Much ado about nothing, really, but it's kinda fun - was a time years back when I attended most of the SA road races - I can imagine the vibe in Bloem - nice.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:14
“@GrootLem: Leading riders expected to finish around 8h30, good racing as bunch trying to catch front split of around 20 #ofm”
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 04, 2012, 06:24
Seeing MTN, Europcar (SA) and Tasol in that photo
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:28
“@GrootLem: Brown, Day bonitas, Maree”

“@TeamMTNQhubeka: Arran Brown takes the win at MTN OFM Classic! Well done team”
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:35
“@GrootLem: Top 10, OFM Brown, T Day, D Maree, D Day, R jvRensburg, Hanco, Ihlenfeldt, Beneke, Bakke, Nahom, McLeod, Girdlestone #ofm”

Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:37
Seeing MTN, Europcar (SA) and Tasol in that photo

Clearer pic?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 04, 2012, 06:41
Still see Europcar, Tasol and MTN. And one Bonitas there.

Judging by the winner, sprint finish?
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:46
Yeah, early morning road races - I remember the feeling - you're only half awake but full of nerves & excitement - pretty awesome.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:50
Not sure, you'll know better, don't know them at all - I asked Hendrik, he might give feedback, will post if.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 04, 2012, 06:51
Yeah, early morning road races - I remember the feeling - you're only half awake but full of nerves & excitement - pretty awesome.
I'm not sh*tting around. Those really are the four teams visible there.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:54
I'm not sh*tting around. Those really are the four teams visible there.

Oh, no, that post was not in response to what you said :-) more a train of thought on my part - not really suitable for forumming?
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:55
I'm not sh*tting around. Those really are the four teams visible there.

Didn't mean you're fast asleep, it's already 12ish your side, right?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 04, 2012, 06:58
Ah, no worries. Yeah half past now.

Must've been a reward for Brown to be willing to stay in continentals instead of professional continental.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 06:59
Judging by the winner, sprint finish?

You'll know better, don't know them, Hendrik might give feedback.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 07:05
Must've been a reward for Brown to be willing to stay in continentals instead of professional continental.

You know what, Hendrik & I both live in Stellies, he has quite a bit of inside info, we hang out at the same local cafe too, I'm going to see when we're both back, I'm going to buy him a coffee & see what he has to say about the ins&outs - might not post it publicly but message or somesuch - will ask him, although he doesn't seem too bothered about being tactful.. Could be some interesting info there :-)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 07:16
And, so we don't neglect the ladies...

 “@GrootLem: Cherise attacks the 3 girl break and goes solo with 20 km to go, should put on her SA champ TT top now #ofm”

Over&out.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 04, 2012, 08:58
Judging by the winner, sprint finish?

"@ReinardtvRnsbrg: That one hurt a little:-) . Had to pull myself inside out to bring back @ianmcleod80 in the final kms yo set up a sprint for @BrownArran"
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 05, 2012, 12:44
I'm really happy I'm no pro rider. Finishing a 100+ km race at 8:30 in the morning... they'd have to get up and eat breakfast at 4 am. ???

About Qhubeka riding a GT, I have to agree with ram. 2013 may be a bit early for some of the African lads, and there's no point in "the first African pro cycling team" sending a mostly European squad to their first GT. Better wait for 2014 and have van Zyl and Meintjes actually being ready to take it on.
In the meantime, they should try to get into HC races for 2013. Most importantly the Tour of Denmark... ;D
kabloemski, pass the message on maybe?
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 05, 2012, 13:14
I'm really happy I'm no pro rider. Finishing a 100+ km race at 8:30 in the morning... they'd have to get up and eat breakfast at 4 am. ???

kabloemski, pass the message on maybe?

Yep, pretty much at 4 am, I used to attend loads of them, pretty much no social life, just bikebike cyclecycle :-)

As for passing it on... :-D been a while since I knew any prof cyclist personally but you never know, Stellenbosch is a sporting hot spot, guys like Conrad 'Xterra' Stolz etc all live here, let's see if I can find a couple of ears to bend, you guys will be the first to know ;-)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 05, 2012, 15:12
I once got a reply from the man running the team, Doug Ryder, to a question on Twitter.
So you never know - I'll just have to pester him and DCU, telling both how much we'd love to see the team up here... :win
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 05, 2012, 15:24
Doug Ryder

So you never know - I'll just have to pester him and DCU

I met Douglas Ryder, he was cycling at the same time as my ex, looking at 1998-2002, so a decade ago now :-)

Yeah, agreed, I say pester away! :-D

Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: froome19 on November 07, 2012, 23:06
Ciolek looks to pass on experience at Team MTN-Qhubeka
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ciolek-looks-to-pass-on-experience-at-team-mtn-qhubeka (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ciolek-looks-to-pass-on-experience-at-team-mtn-qhubeka)

Quote
"When I first heard about the team I didn't know much about it, but the more I found out about Team MTN-Qhubeka the more interested I became,” he said.

“On one hand there’s the possibility to perform with young motivated riders, which in turn will motivate me, and I can also pass on some of my experience.”

“The other thing that attracted me to the team was the whole project behind the team through Qhubeka and also the team’s goals, riders and the prospect to be Africa's first Pro Continental Team. This is something new to cycling, it's different.”

Asked what his ambitions were for 2013, Ciolek said: “Helping the team grow, best thing I can do in this process is winning races and therefore motivating my teammates. I’m looking forward to racing a mixture of smaller and bigger races. Not to say the smaller races are less hard but I am looking forward to the combination and to win so that I can help the team improve.”

“I just found out that at 26 I'm already over the average age of the team. Some of the riders don't have a lot of experience as they haven’t raced in Europe as much but I know all these races and can refer my experience to them.”
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 08, 2012, 11:51
Win :-)

"“@XylonVE: Handing up bikes today with @TeamMTNQhubeka and @qhubeka. Bikes changing lives http://t.co/5auqvToA”"

Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 13, 2012, 08:09
"@TeamMTNQhubeka: Welcome to all our new followers. Are you ready for Africa's first ever UCI Professional Continental team in 2013? http://t.co/DAYYv3zE"
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: mc_mountain on November 13, 2012, 11:40
Now as Pro-Conti have set their sights on Vuelta 2013 and Giro 14 - Also interesting to see the races they see being on the horizon and those they're not so keen on (although that might be lost in translation)

NB Google translate turns Giro => Tour in the headline.

link (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spaziociclismo.it%2F&act=url)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 13, 2012, 13:13
Been doing the rounds for a week or so, they're seriously not ready for a GT.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 13, 2012, 13:27
Been doing the rounds for a week or so, they're seriously not ready for a GT.

Yeah, you said that - maybe somebody should tweet Douglas Ryder...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on November 13, 2012, 13:43
Much rather avoid being shat on.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 13, 2012, 13:44
Much rather avoid being shat on.

:-D
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 15, 2012, 09:04
"@XylonVE: Cool article about @ReinardtvRnsbrg riding @momentum947 to honour his dad http://t.co/cDcTegXj"

"Van Rensburg, however, believed he would have a better chance if the 94.7 kilometres race was longer, with most races in Europe contested over 150km or more.

“It is pity that we race over such short distances in South Africa”, he said.

He was nonetheless eager to cap off his season with a victory at the race.

“Winning the 94.7 Cycle Challenge will really be special.

"I will consider it as one of the most important victories of my entire cycling career.”

http://mobi.supersport.com/cycling/sa-cycling/news/121114/Van_Rensburg_riding_for_his_father
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 17, 2012, 19:02
“@dougryd: "@ReinardtvRnsbrg: Thanks @OakleySA for 3 years sponsorship! #cool http://t.co/FJzuQha0" great picture”

:-)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 18, 2012, 05:57
"@michellecound: “@Bicycling_SA: And @ReinardtvRnsbrg wins the @momentum947 #CC2012. 16th win of the year, in honour of his dad.”
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 19, 2012, 12:34
"@TeamMTNQhubeka: Adrien Niyonshuti currently leads the best Rwandan competition in the Tour of Rwanda. He finished third in the prologue yesterday.”

Wasn't sure where to put this..
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 19, 2012, 13:05
Wasn't it TT1 who dominated last year? Kiel Reijnen and a couple others. Thankfully not as dominant so far in 2 days' racing

http://en.tourofrwanda.com/ (http://en.tourofrwanda.com/)

Intangiriro : KIGALI - KIGALI
Stage 1 KIGALI - NYAGATARE            
Stage 2 KIGALI- MUHANGA
Stage 3 MUHANGA - HUYE            
Stage 4 HUYE - KARONGI
Stage 5 MUHANGA - MUSANZE            
Stage 6 MUSANZE – RUBAVU
Stage 7 RUBAVU - KIGALI            
Stage 8 KIGALI - KIGALI

Should be some climbing in stage 3 and 4

Prologue
Remi Pelletier won it 4'03"
Langlois (was it Guadeloupe or Martinique that he was going very well?) 4'08"
Niyonshuti 4'09"
And the rest (http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/pdf/Classement_prologue.pdf)

Shaun Ward won today's stage. He's the overall leader, and leads the climbing classification.
South Africa the best team.
Dylan Girdlestone the combative rider
Kudus Merwahi is the best youth

The strips
Overall
(http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/arton103.png)

Stage winner
(http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/arton123.png)

(http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/arton120.png)

young uns
(http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/arton130.png)

Best African
(http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/arton124.png)

Best Rwandan
(http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/arton122.png)

Combativity
(http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/arton129.png)

team
(http://en.tourofrwanda.com/IMG/arton125.png)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 19, 2012, 13:22
Thanks for all the info! Don't know any of these really. Gonna check it out. Glad SA's best of course.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 19, 2012, 13:37
No worries, it's all on their website.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 19, 2012, 13:41
Ah cool.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 20, 2012, 13:59
Emmanuel Meron ahead of Darren LIll in a rainy second stage.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 20, 2012, 16:03
Lill wins stage 3

Podium from yesterday
(http://i.imgur.com/IbXPI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ygPmE.jpg)

Rwanda classification
(http://i.imgur.com/yWyv4.jpg)

Like these podium women more than the usual. Smashlist worthy.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 00:13
Ha! This newbie found another interesting thread.

Unfortunately my beloved Eritrea didn't sent a national team to TdR.

But UCI and club ASBECO will do ... :)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 02:59
Kudus won the first road stage, not Shaun Ward. So a win for Eritrea there.

Stage 3
http://www.supersport.com/cycling/sa-cycling/news/121120/Lill_wins_stage_takes_yellow_at_Tour_of_Rwanda (http://www.supersport.com/cycling/sa-cycling/news/121120/Lill_wins_stage_takes_yellow_at_Tour_of_Rwanda)

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/11/analysis/a-long-rainy-day-leads-to-discovery-in-rwanda_265787 (http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/11/analysis/a-long-rainy-day-leads-to-discovery-in-rwanda_265787)

Worked like a team should Adrien regained some time only 30" out of 1st new kid Bonaventure rocked it along with Nic, Gaso, and Hassan. Adrien 3rd in today's stage top 8 only 45 sec apart.

Prologue
Niyonshuti
(http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-c.ak/hphotos-ak-ash3/540154_10151111947306135_295194390_n.jpg)

Javier Hadi
(http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-e.ak/hphotos-ak-prn1/18191_10151111945311135_1380064185_n.jpg)

training ride with Garneau Quebecor
(http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-d.ak/hphotos-ak-snc7/579054_10151111936441135_1248539830_n.jpg)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 04:09
Lill wins stage 3

Cool
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 04:23
top 8 only 45 sec apart.

The top 8 overall, not just on the day? And SA top 3 overall?
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 07:45
"@TeamMTNQhubeka: #Movember has reached the team. Here's @dennisvaniekerk & @JacoJVenter
(Pic @lezanriv) http://t.co/Kmbvvxdr"

:-)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 21, 2012, 09:02
"@TeamMTNQhubeka: Adrien Niyonshuti currently leads the best Rwandan competition in the Tour of Rwanda. He finished third in the prologue yesterday.”

Wasn't sure where to put this..
Would be a shame if he didn't win that one. Apples and oranges, really (no disrespect at all to Team Rwanda).
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 09:31
Would be a shame if he didn't win that one. Apples and oranges, really (no disrespect at all to Team Rwanda).

I am still in the process of checking out the African cyclists, so unfamiliar, but opinions are always welcome :-)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 09:33
The only person that could remotely challenge him is Abraham Ruhumuriza and he's been working his bum off for Adrien's cause apparently.

The top 8 overall, not just on the day? And SA top 3 overall?
Dunno, will when the official results are published. Top 8 within 30 seconds in the GC. Lill, Ward and Girdlestone would be top 3 Saffas methinks.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 09:55
The only person that could remotely challenge him is Abraham Ruhumuriza and he's been working his bum off for Adrien's cause apparently.
Dunno, will when the official results are published. Top 8 within 30 seconds in the GC. Lill, Ward and Girdlestone would be top 3 Saffas methinks.

Ah, cool, thanks.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 09:56
The only person that could remotely challenge him is Abraham Ruhumuriza and he's been working his bum off for Adrien's cause apparently.

Great spirit.. I think.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 17:07

Will be interesting to see how club ASBECO (Asmara Beer Company) fairs by the end of the Tour.

Metkel Eyob won KoM in stage 4, although his chance of a stage win ended after his tire punctured.

Rooting for this kid of only 19 to get a stage win.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 17:38
Eyob finished in the main group. So too did Niyonshuti. Langlois winning the stage.

Langlois broke away from the pack with Eyob after 32km and the pair held on till the final climb together. Eyob cracked on the descent and Langlois went on to win by 40 seconds.

Stage four
(http://i.imgur.com/hkIA3.jpg)


GC
(http://i.imgur.com/zltTT.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 18:14

ASBECO made lots of waves in stage 4 then, good for them.

SA may have this tourney  locked, if things hold for them on the next stage; the toughest stage I am told --Shake and bake hopefully ASBECO.

There was news/rumor  Jonathan Bower, team Rwanda coach, in cooperation/competition with Q. MTN wants to take an African team of his own to the GTs. And yet there is possibly third project in the works...

"Eritrean Mussie Asehel to coach the Continental Cycling Team.The African Cycling Confederation (CAC) has elected an Eritrean, Mussie Asehel, to coach the African Cycling Team that would take part in the Tour of Sharjah First International C
ycling Tournament due to take place in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) from 21 to 24 November. Mussie Asehel is the coach of the National Eritrean Cycling Team, the gold winner at the recent African Cycling Championship in Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso.In its official letter to the National Cycling Federation, Dr. Wagih Azzam, President of the CAC, stated that the elected African team embraces 15 cyclists from 15 countries.The National Sports Commission disclosed that Tesfom Ogbamariam has been elected as the candidate to represent Eritrea, and that the country’s influence in the tournament attests to its growing potential in the sports domain.A number of experienced cyclists from Greece, Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Russia and Ukraine would take part in Tour of Sharjah, according to reports.
— with Natnael Berhane and 2 others. "





Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 18:30
Eyob finished in the main group. So too did Niyonshuti. Langlois winning the stage.

Langlois broke away from the pack with Eyob after 32km and the pair held on till the final climb together. Eyob cracked on the descent and Langlois went on to win by 40 seconds.

Cool, all the detail is awesome, and SA top 3 :-D
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 18:33
Shake and bake

What a classic, I LOVE that movie.

Wow, fascinating stuff, it's superinteresting to get to know all of this re African cycling.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 21, 2012, 18:44
There was news/rumor  Jonathan Bower, team Rwanda coach, in cooperation/competition with Q. MTN wants to take an African team of his own to the GTs. And yet there is possibly third project in the works.
Not out of the realms of possibility. Boyer's proper with regards to drawing in sponsors and fundraising for this team with relatively modest success. Hopefully not, Rwanda cycling is doing a decent job and it is largely down to Jock. GT teams are far fetched though.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 19:00
Think J. Boyer is serious.


"Boyer wants to continue to pool his resources with Ryder. He will eventually base his team in Lucca, Italy, where MTN is setting up this winter."

“We can build two or three teams here in Africa. It’s very important that Doug and I work together, and we do,” Boyer said. “[We can share] vehicles and expenses. It’s so expensive, and neither of us will have European type of budgets. If we don’t work together, it’s not going to work. We are definitely not enemies; we all have the same vision, and we all want African cycling to excel.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/11/analysis/in-rwanda-boyer-helps-africa-towards-tour-team_265671?utm_medium=whats-hot (http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/11/analysis/in-rwanda-boyer-helps-africa-towards-tour-team_265671?utm_medium=whats-hot)

http://www.capitaleritrea.com/african-cycling-confederation-names-eritrean-as-african-cycling-team-coach/ (http://www.capitaleritrea.com/african-cycling-confederation-names-eritrean-as-african-cycling-team-coach/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 19:26

What a classic, I LOVE that movie.

Wow, fascinating stuff, it's superinteresting to get to know all of this re African cycling.

Shake & Bake .... it's timeless; I wanna see it again  :wave

African cycling is on the rise, I think,  and nice to see Asmara cycling come out of it confines, way overdue considering the city as early as the 60s sent its cyclists to the Olympics.  I miss the Moroccans though, MIA at the African Championships, MIA in Rwanda... now wondering if they will be MIA as well in the Tour of Morocco :D

Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 20:50

Per the Italian paper, the award for the infectiously happy, happiness award at TdR goes to Merhawi Kudus. Described as a prodigy after his stage one win and thought of as a real gem by his coach:

"Kudus beats the yellow jersey group, the South African Daren Lill, and the best, showing off his gesture of triumph - a shoot - as if he had won. "He 's happy because he has fun - says Jean-Pierre Van Zyl, sports director of the team UCI Continental Center - and because every day he discovers something about himself."

And according to me speak, all his happiness is a premonition of something great. That's all written in the book when he was born: In G'eez and Tigryna Merhawi=Prosperity; Kudus=Anointed. Prosperity Anointed thats the full translation of his name and I hope he lives up to it  :win

http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/21-11-2012/ruanda-karongi-esulta-langlois-po-corridore-po-massaggiatore--913285624778.shtml (http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/21-11-2012/ruanda-karongi-esulta-langlois-po-corridore-po-massaggiatore--913285624778.shtml)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 21:06
... now wondering if they will be MIA as well in the Tour of Morocco :D

PMSL!
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 21:07
Asmara? What? Never heard of it, I must be living under a rock.

That is so fascinating - the 60's?!
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 21:10
Per the Italian paper   :win

Too awesome.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 21, 2012, 21:30
Stepbrothers is great too - I bought the DVD.
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Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 22:34
Asmara? What? Never heard of it, I must be living under a rock.

That is so fascinating - the 60's?!


Yea, our first Olympians are cyclists. Under Ethiopian flag, of course, first in Melbourne in 1952, all together  15 Asmarans participated in the Olympics until the 1980s. Tekle who is not an Asmaran... that's 16 for Asmara and Eritrea cyclist in the Olympics.

Asmara, without exaggeration, is the unsung capital city of African cycling. The city could possibly make a much more statement in the future. Of course, it's an Italian influence, however , Asmarans took the sport in the 1930s and established Africa Cycling Team to race alongside the Italians.
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Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 22:59

The best link I could find on the history of Cycling in Asmara.

http://conferenciadesportoemafrica.wordpress.com/comunicacoes/329-2/ (http://conferenciadesportoemafrica.wordpress.com/comunicacoes/329-2/)
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Post by: Futz on November 21, 2012, 23:48
And this link, in Italian, covers Asmara cycling better.

Two legend everyone in Asmara know by heart:

Selambini Carmelo (half Italian and Eritrean . Tokyo 1964 and Mexico 1968)
Zeregabir Ghebremichael (Moscow 1980)

http://www.scuoleasmara.it/liceo/noi/Noi-17-feb2012.pdf (http://www.scuoleasmara.it/liceo/noi/Noi-17-feb2012.pdf)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 01:28
Awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on November 22, 2012, 13:52
Kudus finishes second and is the new leader ahead of Lill. Meron Solomon won the stage.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 22, 2012, 18:06

Solomon HABTE was stage 5 winner.
His ASBECO team mate Eyob also keeps KoM. Their former team mate Kudus takes the lead--that's amazing.  ASBECO also produced Natnael Berhane.

Asmara beer on me, yo! ;)

Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 22, 2012, 18:11
Asmara beer on me, yo! ;)

Classic.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 23, 2012, 15:54
stage 6 Meron Amanuel UCI wins
His team mate Kudus keeps yellow jersey.

Seems team Qhuebaka has a superstar in the making in Kudus
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Post by: Futz on November 23, 2012, 17:30

Just noticed I'd graduated from Newbie to Sunday Rider  8)
Am known for skipping graduations, skipped my HS graduation for sure   :fp

And Merhawi Kudus has a nick name now: Merhawiglia

http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/22-11-2012/eritrei-scatenati-ruanda-tappa-habte-maglia-merhawi-913294564684.shtml (http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/22-11-2012/eritrei-scatenati-ruanda-tappa-habte-maglia-merhawi-913294564684.shtml)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 23, 2012, 17:39
stage 6 Meron Amanuel UCI wins
His team mate Kudus keeps yellow jersey.

Seems team Qhuebaka has a superstar in the making in Kudus

Cool :-)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 23, 2012, 17:40
Just noticed I'd graduated from Newbie to Sunday Rider  8)
Am known for skipping graduations, skipped my HS graduation for sure   :fp

And Merhawi Kudus has a nick name now: Merhawiglia

http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/22-11-2012/eritrei-scatenati-ruanda-tappa-habte-maglia-merhawi-913294564684.shtml (http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/22-11-2012/eritrei-scatenati-ruanda-tappa-habte-maglia-merhawi-913294564684.shtml)

High five, dude!
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Post by: Futz on November 23, 2012, 18:09

Thanks for the high five, friend!  :)

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Post by: Futz on November 23, 2012, 18:21
The classification of the 5th stage:

1. Meron (ERI UCI Continental Centre), the 60.5 km in 1h22'21''
2. Girdlestone (AFS National Team South Africa) Mt
3. Debretsion (ERI AS.BE.CO. Cycling Team) m.t.
4. Atsbha (ETH Ethiopia National Team), 3''
5. Mwangi (KEN, Kenya National Team), m.t.
6. Werner (CAN, Quebecor Garneau Team) 20''
7. Uwizeyimana (RWA Rwanda Akagera Team), 21''
8. Maree (AFS National Team South Africa), 23''
9. Yahmi (ALG, Algeria National Team), m.t.
10. Gebresillassie (ETH Ethiopia National Team), mt

The general classification:

1. Merhawi (ERY, UCI Continental Centre) 14h32'43''
2. Lill (AFS National Team South Africa), 25''
3. Ward (AFS National Team South Africa), 32''
4. Abebe (ETH Ethiopia National Team), 47''
5. Liponne (FRA, Team White Queen) at 1'47''
6. Atsbha (ETH Ethiopia National Team) at 1'58''
7. Girdlestone (AFS National Team South Africa) at 2'15''
8. Njoroge Muya (KEN, Kenya National Team) at 2'31''
9. Debretsion (ERI AS.BE.CO. Cycling Team) at 2'554 '
10. Niyonshuti (RWA Rwanda Karisimbi Team) to 3'2''
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 23, 2012, 18:37

The picture above: Asmara's Victory Parade in honor of the National team from the 8th African Cycling Championship. 
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 23, 2012, 19:25
Video video video clip from Tour of Rwanda  :tu

Tour du Rwanda 2012 : 21/11/2012 - Etape 4 : Huye / Karo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y4fL1WdlFw#ws)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 24, 2012, 00:06

Is it true?

No one willingly suffers and experiences more pain, suffering than a cyclist moving up the ranks. Not a lawyer, not a doctor ( via Gazzetta) .
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 00:11
Nice pic & vid, thanks.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 24, 2012, 00:23
Nice pic & vid, thanks.

Oh! Not a problem, just trying to represent Asmara -- Hoping cycling brings it glory :-)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 24, 2012, 01:12
It is awesome, Futz, and I hope so too :-D #GloryGlory
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: mc_mountain on November 24, 2012, 10:33
via @liveciclismo

the winner stage 7 Darren LILL who becomes the leader

so presumably 'Merhawiglia' lost some time...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 24, 2012, 11:39

Darren Lill shot down Merhawiglia, 6 min behind the leader.


Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 24, 2012, 14:43
Stage 7:

1 Darren Lill (SA) 20m09'31"
2 Getachew Atsbha (ET) 20m11'10"
3 Dylan Girdlestone (SA) 20m11'27"

Merhawiglia in 6th place and 6 min behind.
The kid is still a winner.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 24, 2012, 18:44

Le classement de la 7e étape :
1. Lill (AFS, Equipe nationale d'Afrique du Sud), 4h13'39''
2. Debretsion (ERI, AS.BE.CO. Cycling team), à 1''
3. Njoroge Muya (KEN, Equipe nationale du Kenya), à 3''
4. Girdlestone (AFS, Equipe nationale d'Afrique du Sud), à 6''
5. Atsbha (ETH, Equipe nationale d'Ethiopie), même temps
6. Langlois (CAN, Team Québécor-Garneau), à 29''
7. Yahmi (ALG, Equipe nationale d'Algérie), à 1'59''
8. Merhawi (ERY, Centre continental UCI), à 6'52''
9. Ruhumuriza (RWA, Team Rwanda Karisimbi), à 7'32''
10. Liponne (FRA, Team Reine Blanche), à 1'47''
Le classement général :
1. Lill (AFS, Equipe nationale d'Afrique du Sud), à 20h9'31''
2. Atsbha (ETH, Equipe nationale d'Ethiopie), à 1'39''
3. Girdlestone (AFS, Equipe nationale d'Afrique du Sud), à 2'15''
4. Njoroge Muya (KEN, Equipe nationale du Kenya), à 2'9''
5. Debretsion (ERI, AS.BE.CO. Cycling team), à 2'31''
6. Merhawi (ERY, Centre continental UCI), à 6'27''
7. Abebe (ETH, Equipe nationale d'Ethiopie), à 8'45''
8. Liponne (FRA, Team Reine Blanche), à 9'
9. Habte (ERI, AS.BE.CO Cycling Team), 10'30''
10. Niyonshuti (RWA, Team Rwanda Karisimbi), à 10'42''
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 25, 2012, 03:43
Glad to see SA doing well :-) did the tour finish yesterday or is the last stage today?
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 25, 2012, 03:43
The kid is still a winner.

That's the spirit :-)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 25, 2012, 04:50
Glad to see SA doing well :-) did the tour finish yesterday or is the last stage today?

One more stage left just to inconvenience Team SA and Lill-- nothing more. Don't know the details, but Team SA must have deployed one brilliant tactical game.
Congrats!

Glad too see the Ethiopians up their game as well.





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Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 25, 2012, 05:21
Stage 2 & 3 video

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=3Lq2yevx1HE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3Lq2yevx1HE (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=3Lq2yevx1HE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3Lq2yevx1HE)

And video of Merhawiglia at only 18 donned almost all of the maglia.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=lV_fRL0TOsY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DlV_fRL0TOsY (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=lV_fRL0TOsY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DlV_fRL0TOsY)

Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 25, 2012, 11:02
"@XylonVE: Well done @DarrenLill for winning the Tour of Rwanda. @AD_Niyonshuti wins best Rwandan jersey. Positive racing in Africa."
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Futz on November 25, 2012, 18:00
Again Congratulations to Darren Lill and team SA  :win

Beautiful Rwanda is proving to be the battle ground of African cyclists.
We will meet again!
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 25, 2012, 18:10
Beautiful Rwanda is proving to be the battle ground of African cyclists.
We will meet again!

Nicely said :-)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 27, 2012, 10:55
"@yolpret: Malcom Lange's book launch tonight and tomorrow afternoon I'm flying back to the mother city aka Cape Town!"

I know he's not MTN but kinda makes sense to keep all the African cycling stuff on the thread that Ram started :-)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 27, 2012, 13:06
"@TeamMTNQhubeka: Our training camp starts on Sunday in Johannesburg. New bikes, new kit, 21 of the best cyclists in the world...the dream is here."
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 06:11
"@UCI_cycling: Congrats to Colombia, MTN-Qhubeka and Team Type 1: they will be UCI Pro Continental in 2013. @Col_Coldeportes @TeamMTNQhubeka @TeamType1"
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 29, 2012, 06:13
"@TeamMTNQhubeka: The news is still true this morning. We are Africa's first UCI Pro Continental team. We ride for @Qhubeka."
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 14:39
"@TeamMTNQhubeka: Sneak a peak of our new team kit. We unveil the full kit on Monday. http://t.co/KO3vIfJO"
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 14:45
App's full of it won't let me upload pic again, sorry, link only
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on November 30, 2012, 14:45
Oh. Who would've guessed it :-) voila.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 30, 2012, 19:23
It better not be very much different from the 2012 kit. >:(
I've just bought that one (well, in September).
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 09:16
"@Cycling_SA: Cycling SA Vacancy: Chief Executive Officer. http://t.co/8pwaQyyo"

Any of you sending in your CVs :-D
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 09:19
"@MTNza: Ready for the @teamMTNQhubeka #team2013announcement the excitement is building here at #Maropeng"

Haven't spied any new kit pics yet BTW
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 10:07
"@MTNza: The official @teamMTNQhubeka jersey signed by the team #tour2013 http://t.co/v7CAWzoD"
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Post by: just some guy on December 03, 2012, 12:15
It better not be very much different from the 2012 kit. >:(
I've just bought that one (well, in September).

(http://tourdejose.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/20121203-125149.jpg?w=595)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on December 03, 2012, 12:24
Thanks JSG the app is app to sh*t wouldn't let me upload the pick.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on December 04, 2012, 20:39
That's an OK kit. A bit empty on the lower front maybe, otherwise I like it.
And it's not too far from the 2012 version. :tu
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on December 04, 2012, 20:57
And not too far from the 2012 version. :tu

Exactly, so yay :-D
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Post by: froome19 on December 24, 2012, 23:30
And here is the first step to greatness :fanfare

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/omloop-het-nieuwsblad-organisers-deliver-invitation-to-mtn-qhubeka (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/omloop-het-nieuwsblad-organisers-deliver-invitation-to-mtn-qhubeka)

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Africa’s first Professional Continental squad, MTN-Qhubeka has been granted an invitation to one of the opening races of the season, Omloop Het Nieuwsblad. MTN-Qhubeka’s Classics squad will hope to show themselves at the 200km semi-classic with the expectation that additional invitations will follow.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on December 26, 2012, 18:26
"@leguape: Interesting BBC radio documentary on this week on African cycling http://t.co/iG5mnnTA"

"Can Tsgabu Grmay win a first Tour de France for Africa?"

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/27/y7yzutes.jpg)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20842499
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on December 30, 2012, 11:27
"@ReinardtvRnsbrg: Lekker ride in Cape Town. Amazing place to ride a bike. View from Camps Bay today http://t.co/kdNogoma"

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/30/ysavygud.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on December 31, 2012, 11:33
Team MTN-Qhubeka powered by Samsung recently completed its training camp in South Africa. This was the first get-together with all riders and staff as the team prepares to be Africa's first ever Professional Continental team in 2013. Upon completing the camp, captain Gerald Ciolek had the following to say.

“I really enjoyed the first get together with the team. We had good training days in great summer conditions in Johannesburg. To me, the team is very professional and well organised. I never imagined the team management would care so much about the riders. I see great potential in this team; with an average age of 24 we can expect some good progress.”

“Our first focus of the year will be the spring races. We are very excited to receive an invitation to Omloop Het Nieuwsblad. We hope also to get invitations to Milan-San Remo and Tirreno-Adriatico which would be a big goal for me.”

Explains the sniffing up RCS. MTN Powered by Samsung, joiz, hope that's not how they'll be addressed.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: froome19 on January 01, 2013, 16:47
Proper jealous of those views..

 Ciolek banking on the big classics invitation (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ciolek-hopes-for-milan-san-remo-invitation?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0)

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“I really enjoyed the first get together with the team,” the German said.

“We had good training days in great summer conditions in Johannesburg. To me, the team is very professional and well organised. I never imagined the team management would care so much about the riders. I see great potential in this team; with an average age of 24 we can expect some good progress.”

“Our first focus of the year will be the spring races. We are very excited to receive an invitation to Omloop Het Nieuwsblad. We hope also to get invitations to Milan-San Remo and Tirreno-Adriatico which would be a big goal for me.”

Milan San Remo would be great for them but I am not sure how much impact they could make in those races.. breakaways etc should all be on the agenda though.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on January 01, 2013, 17:28
They are copy paste central indeed, that's the same as the post above, which was a pasteage of a FB post by MTN.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on January 01, 2013, 18:57
You still think it's too soon for them Ram? Or were you referring to GTs that time?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on January 02, 2013, 01:43
Same team as then. Yes, for GTs and still not perfectly sure for classics. Still, they could spring a surprise here, but not in GTs.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on January 02, 2013, 07:19
Cool, thanks.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on January 03, 2013, 14:52
Explains the sniffing up RCS. MTN Powered by Samsung, joiz, hope that's not how they'll be addressed.

Could be worse, coulda had Siemens as their co-sponsor.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on January 03, 2013, 15:23
I think it's great that they'll be doing the Omloop Het Nieuwsblad. Spidertech and Team Type 1 did it last year and the latter got their big young lad Vegard Stake Laengen right up there until the late stages.

It's a real baptism of fire for a team new to the cobbles because it's a cold and very hard race in comparison to something like Dwars Door Vlaanderen or Gent-Wevelgem. Ciolek in a road captain sort of role was a good buy for that reason.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: search on January 03, 2013, 15:28
who is their best rider for a race like this? Het Nieuwsblad should be a bit too hard for Ciolek I think, maybe Sbaragli?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on January 03, 2013, 17:25
who is their best rider for a race like this? Het Nieuwsblad should be a bit too hard for Ciolek I think, maybe Sbaragli?

A shamefully Euro-centric list of cobblers could include Ciolek (handy on rare cobbles appearances like Tour 2010), Stauff (ex-QuickStep dom has ridden these races before) and Konovalovas (heavier TTer, 22nd Paris-Roubaix last year). I can't really comment on Africans yet - ram would know more - but weightier guys like Van Rensburg will probably thrive here.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on January 03, 2013, 22:08
Jaco Venter has ridden in Belgium/Luxembourg for one-and-a-half seasons, he should have seen enough cobble race in that time to not be completely useless.
Jay Thomson is a machine (he single-handedly kept the break in check at the SA nationals 2012, riding at the front for hours), both in TT and on the road. No idea if he can convert that into excelling on cobbles, but why not try?
The rest has never done cobbles before as far as I'm aware, absolutely no inkling how to gauge them. They could surprise immensely, or fail completely.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: froome19 on January 04, 2013, 10:12
Yep also expect Yousef Rgeuigui to feature possible on the cobbles. He is more of a bunch sprinter but he is being put on the cobbles team to gain experience and is being mentored by Ciolek.

Also Adrian Niyonshuti possibly he is primarily a mountain biker, raced in the Olympics, but he excels as the race gets harder and longer so I think he could do well on the cobbles.

Asides from that yeh I think that Ciolek will be the leader, tbh any results on top of Ciolek's will surely be considered extra and I don't think they are expecting much from anyone else. Venter can also go well here I think.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Flo on January 04, 2013, 10:34
ram you know for what races they might get invited? :tu
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: froome19 on January 04, 2013, 11:28
They do not want invites to Giro or Tour, but are looking for a GT debut at the Vuelta. Also they want invites to races like TA, MSR etc and will surely look to featuring on the cobbles and of course they are already down for Omloop. They have actually met with Acquerone to discuss MSR and TA invites.

In short the manager stated the invites they are looking for as being: Tirreno, MSR, Oman and Qatar and Dauphine and possibly the Vuelta if they get lucky.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on January 06, 2013, 12:16
"@Ice_Pieter: Spotted Jacques out training in Lynnwood! All the best with the year ahead! @Jacques002 @TeamMTNQhubeka @qhubeka http://t.co/CHGbhY5A"

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/06/e9u9upat.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on January 07, 2013, 13:43
We've been receiving a lot of queries as to why our name is no longer on the list for eligible wildcard entries to the 2013 Giro d'Italia. We've been in close communication with the race organiser, RCS Sport. As much as we love the Giro and it is definitely our dream to take our riders to the race, we feel that it may come too early in our first year as a Professional Continental team.

Our early season hope is to be invited to RCS races, Tirreno-Adriatico and Milan-San Remo. This would suit us better as our experienced riders who've done these races before would mentor our younger riders. Our goal remains to steadily develop and progress with our riders as we have done the last four years. When we finally line up for the Corsa Rosa, we'd like to be as competitive as possible.

Thank you for supporting Africa's team.

Douglas Ryder
Team Principal
Team MTN-Qhubeka powered by Samsung
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on January 08, 2013, 09:56
Makes a bunch of sense.
A team manager who makes sensible decisions... :tu
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on January 20, 2013, 17:32
This morning, I thought "it never hurt to ask". So:
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@lukascph

@copelandbrent Is there any chance of @TeamMTNQhubeka riding the Tour of Denmark? I'm sure you'd love it - and your Danish fans would, too!

Only an hour later, I got this reply:
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Brent Copeland ‏@copelandbrent

@lukascph @TeamMTNQhubeka yes, there definitely is a good chance and we would be very pleased to race in Denmark
:cool:
Nothing confirmed yet of course, but Copeland is a man with connections. Along with all the "first African pro team" PR yabadoo (tacky as it may be, it's still true - and opens doors that might otherwise remain closed), this may just come to pass. :)


And now you know my twitter name as well. ;)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: ram on January 20, 2013, 17:43
Brilliant.... and cheers
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on February 19, 2013, 10:15
Team MTN-Qhubeka p/b Samsung Introduction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp0y1568zLI#ws)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on February 28, 2013, 10:26
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/niyonshuti-faces-lengthy-break-following-blood-clot (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/niyonshuti-faces-lengthy-break-following-blood-clot)

(http://inzulodge.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/adrien-niyonshuti.jpg?w=470)

Niyonshuti had two blood clots: an embolism in the lung and in his leg. DVT is the diagnosis and he will be out for an "indefinite period".

EDIT: I see this was already reported in the Man Down thread (http://velorooms.com/index.php/topic,1593.msg87111.html) but I guess it applies here too. Loss of a "star attraction" on the team.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on March 07, 2013, 08:47
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/741181598.jpg?key=7681024&Expires=1362647000&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=bdj2CMm0ZYXIiIyUi2397K3XiUSngWRRGd4~cSni7D~0NvDiOByczLHCW7yQuyfP~8vrbGp92hqCGvoFdbky22NuYtEjjyOpO3wCX0aILnNNf56kFOYtUr7wDmjpelDaTgVEGw4Rqh8XQSgtbPPsnvUUGO3701lWACB9i6NLo~M_)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 07, 2013, 09:02
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/741181598.jpg?key=7681024&Expires=1362647000&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=bdj2CMm0ZYXIiIyUi2397K3XiUSngWRRGd4~cSni7D~0NvDiOByczLHCW7yQuyfP~8vrbGp92hqCGvoFdbky22NuYtEjjyOpO3wCX0aILnNNf56kFOYtUr7wDmjpelDaTgVEGw4Rqh8XQSgtbPPsnvUUGO3701lWACB9i6NLo~M_)
Meh. :S
That looks like they were caught by surprise that a Qhubeka rider won the SA champs, and had to come up with a design and produce it within three days.
They could have expected this, and done something more like the awesome jersey Hunter had last year.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 11, 2013, 11:37
Stumbled across this article about South African cycling's history:
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-03-07-00-the-curious-tale-of-south-african-cycling-1 (http://mg.co.za/article/2013-03-07-00-the-curious-tale-of-south-african-cycling-1)

It doesn't have much to do with Qhubeka - in fact it doesn't have anything to do with Qhubeka at all.
But as it's about Saffa cycling, I figured I could put it here, as everybody interested in the subject would check this thread at some point.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on March 17, 2013, 20:33
Just woke up in NZ and seen who won Milan - San remo

my head nearly exploded

job done for the year now, they can just sit back and enjoy the rest of it
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: The Hitch on March 17, 2013, 20:34
Id love to see what the reaction was in the team car and in the bus lol.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: jobiwan on March 17, 2013, 21:08
Id love to see what the reaction was in the team car and in the bus lol.

Probably something along the lines of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxy6Ty2-epk), but more epic.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: search on March 17, 2013, 22:40
better than Matty White last year?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CHAKie2XiU0#t=149s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CHAKie2XiU0#t=149s)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: AG on March 18, 2013, 00:16
Huge congrats to ciolek and MTN ...  Major kudos.  :win
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on March 18, 2013, 01:55
Wow. I am at a loss for words. Well, any words that won't get blocked by the filter ;)
:rave
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on March 18, 2013, 14:45
(http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bettiniphoto_0136900_1_full-e1363615422471.jpg)

SONGEZO JIM BLOG: MY MILAN SANREMO (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=songezo-jim-blog-my-milan-sanremo)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 20, 2013, 11:10
Is Germany slowly warming up to cycling again?
Gerald Ciolek in ARD Morgenmagazin (http://www.ardmediathek.de/das-erste/morgenmagazin/im-gespraech-gerald-ciolek?documentId=13793404) (German)
Doesn't say anything that cycling fans wouldn't already know, but he does a good job of explaining the race and team to absolute outsiders.
And doping isn't mentioned once.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 20, 2013, 12:34
What other invites does MTN have????
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 20, 2013, 13:03
Nothing in WT terms, if that's what you're looking for.
Their program for the next few weeks can be seen on the website (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?page_id=64).

The "classics squad" will be doing Driedaagse De Panne, Volta Limburg Classic (aka Hel van het Mergelland), Scheldeprijs, GP Pino Cerami, Brabantse Pijl, Tour du Finistère and Tro-Bro Léon. Basically a "second-rate" spring classics program, but with good opportunities to make the races interesting and get results. Not to mention experience for the likes of Songezo Jim, Youcef Reguigui and Jani Tewelde.
Which is what their calendar should be about at this point.
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on March 22, 2013, 06:35
"@KevinMcCallum: RT @TeamMTNQhubeka: Tsgabu Grmay (MTN-Qhubeka) gets his first professional in stage 5 of Tour de Taiwan!!!!"

WOOOPDEDOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 22, 2013, 15:23
I remember seeing him in the 2011 U23 Worlds in Copenhagen. The only Ethiopian rider, all by himself, and dropped after a few laps.
Soldiered on for several laps - getting applause and encouragement from me every time he came past - after that before being pulled out.
He's showed gradual and steady improvement since then, great to hear he has now taken that first step. :)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on March 25, 2013, 10:51
GT retired

Ciolek very happy at Qhubeka

http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_80510.htm (http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_80510.htm)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: podgie on March 25, 2013, 11:53
I was privileged to go to a Qhubeka bike handover in one of the townships a few weeks ago.  If you would like to read about how much they are making a difference have a look at :  http://cyclingdirect.co.za/qhubeka-mobilising-kids-with-bikes/ (http://cyclingdirect.co.za/qhubeka-mobilising-kids-with-bikes/)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on March 25, 2013, 13:11
What, B-Bop, you're not falling for their charm? It's an African success story, everybody loves those!
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 25, 2013, 13:51
Why does everyone love this team? They've fluked a win in a semi-important race and everyone has gone mental for them :S.







any takers?
I've gone mental for this team two-three years ago already.
And it's getting pretty crowded on the Qhubeka bandwagon by now.
I hear there's this Velo Club Sovac in Algeria... ;)
there, I took it
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on March 25, 2013, 17:35
You mean Froome f*cked the WHOLE continent ??? Can't be!

And hey, I kinda like Froome :froomedog
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: AG on March 25, 2013, 23:37
well - for a pro conti team who had done nothing yet, they had 10 pages of posts before winning MSR ... and none of it was talking about Dark Side issues (amazingly for a cycling forum  :D )

so I am pretty sure it isnt just coz they won a big race.   
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on March 26, 2013, 05:46
Well said.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on March 26, 2013, 20:30
Why does everyone love this team? They've fluked a win in a semi-important race and everyone has gone mental for them :S.
any takers?

Pretty harsh BYOP, Ram, Fus and myself were discussing this team long before they went pro conti. Mainly because all three of us have an attachment to African racing one way or another. When we were following their progress in local South African races last year it had nothing to do with a German winning MSR and all to do with seeing a team that was encouraging young African talent.

I think on here people know we have a soft spot for the team (due to the number of discussions around the site last year) so were pleased when they won because they knew they are one of the Velorooms favorites.

and we seem to have picked up another saffer on the site as well, surely they are entitled to join the band wagon.

and no one flukes a classic win

when did you become so bitter. i always thought you were nice and fluffy like.




Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 26, 2013, 23:27
I also like the fact they still have alot of Africans on their roster and hope it stays that way
I think we can be sure it will.
Doug Ryder has stated time and again that his long-term goal is to have a team of 50%+ black Africans at the Tour. In 2012 he even went that far as to declare a policy of 50%+ black Africans in the team, which led to a couple of white South Africans getting "laid off" (of course other factors may and probably will have played in as well).

and hopefully due to M-SR they'll get more chances at the 'big' European races if not this year(not sure what remaining 'big' races have WC's left to hand out) then 2014.
I'm hoping for the Cyclassics - not really a "big" race, but the only WT in easy distance for me to watch at the roadside. Should be rather secure with Ciolek, Stauff, Reimer and Zemke as DS.
And I'm still holding a tiny hope for the Tour of Denmark. :D
Of really "big" races, they're trying to get into the Vuelta. I'd love to see what Jani Tewelde could do there, he's shown his talent (both sprinting and climbing) in Langkawi for two years now.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on March 26, 2013, 23:29
Dave, I was just being me and peeing about. I actually like them, not as much as you, Ram, Fus etc. I also like the fact they still have alot of Africans on their roster and hope it stays that way and hopefully due to M-SR they'll get more chances at the 'big' European races if not this year(not sure what remaining 'big' races have WC's left to hand out) then 2014.

Also unrelated, I bet if you bump into Matt(or is it Mark?) Prior you'd be buying him a few drinks in thanks to all the banter he saved you.

the banter he saved me was marginal. we still stuttered to a draw against NZ.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: search on March 26, 2013, 23:37
Of really "big" races, they're trying to get into the Vuelta. I'd love to see what Jani Tewelde could do there, he's shown his talent (both sprinting and climbing) in Langkawi for two years now.

I still think it's too early for a gt. With (most likely) just three wildcards and Caja Rural and Cofidis more or less having the guarantee to get one each it will be very difficult anyway.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 26, 2013, 23:47
I still think it's too early for a gt.
Honestly, so do I.
But the Vuelta is still almost half a year away - who knows how much the young Africans will learn and develop until then.
That said, I think they would have had good chances of getting into the Giro this year already if they had pursued it, and have very good chances of the Giro next year.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: podgie on March 27, 2013, 11:12
They have always said its too early for a GT.  What this team is doing different is actively bringing on local ie African talent, not only with the Pro-Conti team but with their young feeder team racing in Africa and working alongside the UCI WCC Africa development program. 

If you read Cioleks reasons for going to the team its very encouraging.

What else makes them so different and why I support them is the Qhubeka foundation and what it is doing to mobilise kids in Africa, so far 45,000 bicycles given out and a plan to give 200,000 out by 2020.   To see how these bikes are changing lives goes far beyond a racing team.  Even the riders donate a portion of their race winnings to the foundation. I dont like to repeat but take some time to read http://cyclingdirect.co.za/qhubeka-mobilising-kids-with-bikes/ (http://cyclingdirect.co.za/qhubeka-mobilising-kids-with-bikes/)

Last October I was doing a 3-day mountain bike stage race, coming off Spionkop (for those who like history, it is the Boar war battlefield) on a 16 km single track, halfway down was a kid with a Qhubeka bike, who had earnt  it growing trees in his village. How he actually got that 20kg beast up that trail is another story...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on April 10, 2013, 14:46
Team MTN Qhubeka: An African Bicycle Dream Episode 1 - Preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD9HyGEzq3M#ws)
Title: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: kabloemski on April 12, 2013, 06:51
Let's tweet & RT our asses off!

"@qhubeka: Every 10 tweets @KevinMcCallum gets with the hashtag #SlowMagMarathon takes 30s off his time to win R10k 4 @qhubeka. Thats 5 bikes. Let's RT"
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on April 12, 2013, 12:32
Team MTN Qhubeka: An African Cycling Dream Episode 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF5mv_bwYVI#ws)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on April 16, 2013, 20:29
The ZDF-Mittagsmagazin has aired a short segment on MTN-Qhubeka and Tsgabu Grmay:
Link (in German) (http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1882034/Gutes-tun-und-Stars-von-Morgen-finden#/beitrag/video/1882034/Gutes-tun-und-Stars-von-Morgen-finden)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on April 17, 2013, 14:51
Even CNN have taken to Songezo Jim's story now:
Human to Hero: Songezo Jim (http://edition.cnn.com/video/?iid=article_sidebar#/video/sports/2013/04/16/human-to-hero-songezo-jim-tour-de-france.cnn)
Songezo Jim: From the townships to the Tour (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/17/sport/songezo-jim-cycling-africa-tour/index.html?sr=sharebar_twitter)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on April 21, 2013, 12:19
Tour of Turkey: The African Dream continues (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=tour-of-turkey-the-african-dream-continues)

Squad for Turkey: Andreas Stauff (GER), Bradley Potgieter (RSA), Ignatas Konovalovas (LTU), Dennis van Niekerk (RSA), Gerald Ciolek (GER), Martin Wesemann (RSA), Jaco Venter (RSA), Kristian Sbaragli (ITA)

Ciolek (and Sbaragli) will go for the sprints. Curious to see how they fare against a truly world-class field of sprinters. And Ciolek's season is already great no matter what. :D
Venter, and possibly Wesemann and Konovalovas, should be in a breakaway or two. And look out for van Niekerk in the mountains, he should be able to get a decent GC result.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on April 29, 2013, 18:30
http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/sports/2013/04/16/human-to-hero-songezo-jim-tour-de-france.cnn#/video/sports/2013/04/10/human-to-hero-stephanie-gilmore-surfing.cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/sports/2013/04/16/human-to-hero-songezo-jim-tour-de-france.cnn#/video/sports/2013/04/10/human-to-hero-stephanie-gilmore-surfing.cnn)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on April 29, 2013, 21:43
Dude, that's already there. Two posts up. :rolleye
 ;)


Frankfurt Classic opens the German races in May (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=frankfurt-classic-opens-the-german-races-in-may)
Frankfurt on May 1st will be the first race in Germany for Ciolek, Stauff and DS Zemke, followed by Rund um Köln and the Bayern-Rundfahrt later the same month.
If it comes to a bunch sprint in Frankfurt I quite fancy Ciolek for a good placing, he's good at those after a hard course. Köln will possibly play even more to his strengths, as a bunch sprint is more likely there. And in Bayern I'd just go all out with the young guys, give them free reins to chase a result against a good, but not quite top-level field. They might just surprise a few - and even if not, it'll be a good learning experience.


And the South African champion has written a blog post (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=jay-thomson-blog-im-back) about himself and why he's largely been invisible so far. Explains a bit (though not in great detail) what went wrong, but it seems he's back on track now. Hopefully he can line up in Bayern, the ITT should be a good opportunity for him to test himself.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on May 02, 2013, 23:14
African cycling team takes on Europe (http://www.southafrica.info/news/sport/cycling-mtn-qhubeka-020513.htm#.UYLjDkpVanE)
A nice article about the team on a general website.
It seems that many South Africans haven't realized how big this team and its achievements are. But the trajectory is upwards, and once they're in a GT (Giro next year? Tour 2015?) I think it will hit home.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on May 27, 2013, 15:44
We can't have the thread of our favourite African cycling team be so far down the page. ;)

Therefore, here's a couple of articles by yours truly on their recent performances in Bayern:
Ciolek narrowly misses out on home soil (http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/ciolek_narrowly_misses_out_on_home_soil/)
Quote
"Tomorrow we will attack again."
And how right he was:
Sprint victory for Ciolek in 3rd stage (http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/sprint_victory_for_ciolek_in_third_stage_of_bayern-rundfahrt/)

MTN-Qhubeka spreads message in Bavaria (http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/mtn-qhubeka_spreads_message_in_bavaria/)

And a look behind the scenes from the team website:
Behind the scenes at Bayern-Rundfahrt (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=behind-the-scenes-at-bayern-rundfahrt)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on May 31, 2013, 11:50
Copeland leaves MTN-Qhubeka (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/copeland-leaves-mtn-qhubeka)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on June 02, 2013, 08:40
Hmm.
Remains to be seen whether it will now turn into a German team with a couple of African helpers, or whether Doug Ryder can remain "control" and ensure the influx of Africans, also as team leaders.

I obviously hope for the second.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on June 12, 2013, 09:52
(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/4ea750c8dd5c222433ae6091f/images/Luxembourg_01.jpg)
Tour of Luxembourg: Climbers and sprinters are asked for

MTN-Qhubeka p/b Samsung will take on the climbs and sprints of the Skoda Tour de Luxembourg (June 12-16 / UCI 2.HC) this week with its usual strong squad. Milan-San Remo winner Gerald Ciolek, who has shown his outstanding ability to come over the climbs and win the resulting sprint, and Spanish climber Sergio Pardilla will be the men in the spotlight.

“After we successfully rode the Fleche du Sud last year as a small African team, we are happy to be invited to the Tour de Luxembourg,” said sport director Jens Zemke. “We want to make a good impression and advertise for our project to get bikes to kids in Africa.”

Ciolek and Pardilla can look for support from Germans Andreas Stauff and Martin Reimer, Lithuanian time trial specialist Ignatas Konovalovas, and South Africans Jaco Venter, Jay Thomson and Jacques Janse van Rensburg.

The race opens Wednesday evening with a 2.5km prologue, with the speedy men expected to race around the city of Luxembourg in four minutes. The climbing starts the next day, as the 184 km from Luxembourg to Hautcharge includes six ranked climbs, including three category one. The climbers will be active again on stage two, with six climbs again. In both stages, however, the final climb is far enough away from the finish line that the peloton ought to have enough time to get back together.

That is just a warm-up for the third stage, 178.8 km from Eschweiler to Diekirch, with eight climbs, all of them ranked category one, and the last one less than 10 km from the finish line. The race ends up with six climbs on the fourth and final stage, but the final climb is followed by six laps of a 5.5km circuit course in Luxembourg City, with a mass sprint expected.

Tour de Luxembourg (Luxembourg) – (June 12 -16 / UCI 2.HC):   Andreas Stauff (GER), Gerald Ciolek (GER), Ignatas Konovalovas (LIT), Jaco Venter (RSA), Martin Reimer (GER), Jay Thomson (RSA), Jacques Janse van Rensburg (RSA) and Sergio Pardilla (ESP)

Staff: Jens Zemke (Directeur Sportif), Basti Büffel (Soigneur), Hagen Bernutz (Soigneur), Heiko Heinrici (Mechanic), Daniele Nieri (Mechanic), Francesco Bonnini (Bus Driver)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on June 12, 2013, 09:56
I like how they also list the supporting staff and not only the riders, as many other teams do. They're just as big a part of the effort.

And I certainly hope that over time, the line-ups at the big races won't always be the Europeans plus the "old" South Africans. I suppose Meintjes, Russom, van Zyl, Jim, Grmay, Reguigui etc. still need time to adapt to the highest level - but I just can't wait.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on June 27, 2013, 15:30
So, while our favourite African cycling team won't get to ride the Tour of Denmark after being majorly screwed by Jesper Worre, they do go to the Tour of Austria:
CyclingQuotes: Gerald Ciolek leads African team in the Alps (http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/gerald_ciolek_leads_african_team_in_the_alps/)

Ciolek, Reimer, Konovalovas, Pardilla, Wesemann, van Niekerk, van Zyl, Meintjes.
Interesting to read that the visas for Venter and Thomson expired.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on July 11, 2013, 11:41
Still winning:
http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=tsgabu-grmay-adds-national-title (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=tsgabu-grmay-adds-national-title)
Tsgabu Grmay is the first ever *et ITT champion, and is the big favourite for the RR on Sunday.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DinZ on July 12, 2013, 00:29
Nice. Not MTN but saw Bonitas are looking to add some young talent to the team and are trying to boost their profile. Couple of other teams also starting to develop talent as well.

Cannot tell if African cycling is on the rise on the back of MTN and teams starting to pick up talent or i have just started following a lot more African riders so it looks like they are on the rise. Guess we shall see in a few years
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on July 12, 2013, 09:34
Bonitas are looking to add some young talent to the team and are trying to boost their profile.
There are two sides to that story.
Team Abantu (former Tasol-GT) say that their junior rider Jevandre Pauls was approached and signed while under contract, and "dismissed him with immediate effect".
From their Facebook page:
Spoiler (hover to show)
But as someone commenting points out, when a team's main sponsor pulls out, all contracts are considered null and void:
Spoiler (hover to show)
I'm not sure who to believe in this case, I think they both have good arguments.


Anyway, from what I can see African cycling is definitely on the rise: It was basically South Africa, Namibia and Mauritius dividing the African championships between them until 8-10 years ago (and all of those riders were whites as well). Mauritius is nowhere now, that tells a lot about how much the other nations caught up. Burkina Faso has always been cycling-crazy (Fausto Coppi went there for a race, and got the malaria that killed him in the end), and they still are. It looks like they're not improving as much as other countries - and I think they aren't, the others just catch up.
Morocco have improved tremendously in the last 8-10 years (it help if the king of an authoritary monarchy is a big supporter of cycling), so have Algeria. Rwanda, Eritrea and Ethiopia have come almost from nowhere to being close to the best - or being the best, in Eritrea's case - within 5-6 years.

The situation in South Africa leaves something to be desired, in my opinion. At least they have an UCI race again with the Mzansi Tour, and it looks better-organized and much more sustainable than the short-lived Tour of SA. But the Giro del Capo is gone, as is the Rapport Toer (which had Telekom, Gerolsteiner, Lampre, FDJ and Saeco participating in the early 00s). In 2008, there was the World's View Challenge, the Giro del Capo, the Dome2Dome Cycling Spectacular, and the Amashovashova Classic, all UCI races. Last year, there was nothing. I hope that the Giro del Capo will come back, but I don't hold my breath.
#mtn2013 and #bonitas do stuff to develop talents and, most importantly, get them accustomed to European racing (Bonitas have teamed up with #pomme, and have got Herman Fouché into SC Martigues for some good old French amateur racing) - but you can never have enough teams, I think. Darren Lill turned from road cycling to mountainbiking this year because the races in SA don't suit him - most of them are too short and not mountainous enough - and he couldn't get a contract at a bigger team after the Pegasus debacle (I still haven't forgiven the people responsible for that).

However, Impey's two days in #tdf13yellow have apparently elicited a big response in SA already. I hope that if/when #mtn2013 get into their first GT next year (probably the Giro), and their African riders have success at the highest level, things will eventually start to roll. The Mzansi Tour becoming a genuine Giro preparation race, maybe even stepping up to 2.1 and attracting some WT teams (although that would limit the number of local teams unless they become Continental - or the UCI changes their rules), other European teams hiring African riders - not as a gimmick, or a way to earn UCI points, but because of the talent - and making them team leaders eventually, more races being organized all over the continent etc.
Africa is now where Australia and North America were in the mid-80s. But I'm optimistic that Africa can get to where these countries are now within much less than 25 years.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 08, 2013, 15:57
This makes me sad: :fp
http://twitter.com/XylonVE/status/364860312387731459

EDIT: What am I doing wrong? Why doesn't it embed? All solved now! :)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on August 08, 2013, 16:11
EDIT: What am I doing wrong? Why doesn't it embed?

Looks fine to me, Fus.

Yeah, that's like Eurosport mangling Argos' Thomas "Dammi-jow" Damuseau in the London Surrey Classic. C'est "da-moo-zoh", les gars!  :D
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 08, 2013, 17:42
Or Maarten Jungle-I. :rolleye

Yeah, it looks fine now. I posted it, and then refreshed the page - but it didn't work then. Apparently you have to leave the thread and then enter it again.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on August 11, 2013, 18:46
Qhubeka takes a win today with Sergio Pardilla on Stage 5 of the Volta a Portugal.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 12, 2013, 09:18
And as if that wasn't enough, Bonaventure Uwizeyimana won the final stage of the Clover Lowveld Tour, with two of his teammates taking 2nd and 3rd:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRX-WktCEAASgaq.jpg:large)

And Costa Seibeb won the Züri-Metzgete (only an amateur race these days):
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRcfN99CUAAjq2f.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 16, 2013, 14:26
http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=good-news-for-african-cycling-ahead-of-tour-de-lavenir (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=good-news-for-african-cycling-ahead-of-tour-de-lavenir)

The mixed UCI team at the Tour de l'Avenir will consist of six Africans:
*er Merhawi Kudus
*za Nic Dougall
*za JC Nel
*na Till Drobisch
*na Costa Seibeb
*ci Issiaka Cissé

Everyone will get an opportunity in the opening stages, and then Kudus will be the man to ride for in the mountains.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 20, 2013, 10:15
Not #mtn2013 as such, but Kevin Evans rode for the team in 2007-2008, so ...
http://www.sssenterprise.co.za/pletts-next-professional-cyclist-the-landbou-george-show-road-race/ (http://www.sssenterprise.co.za/pletts-next-professional-cyclist-the-landbou-george-show-road-race/)
Great to see an experienced pro taking a talent "under his wings" that way.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 28, 2013, 10:42
Good news about *rw Adrien Niyonshuti:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15349/Niyonshuti-en-route-to-full-recovery-from-deep-vein-thrombosis-likely-to-return-to-racing-in-early-2014.aspx (http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15349/Niyonshuti-en-route-to-full-recovery-from-deep-vein-thrombosis-likely-to-return-to-racing-in-early-2014.aspx)
Expected to start training on the roads in November, return to racing in early 2014.
Best of luck to him - the 2014 Giro will probably be a bit too early still, but who knows.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 02, 2013, 16:17
Strike One. The interview with *dz Youcef Reguigui:
CyclingQuotes.com: Reguigui: Paris-Roubaix is my dream (http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/reguigui_paris-roubaix_is_my_dream/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on September 03, 2013, 09:01
(http://news.velonation.com/Men/Road/Ga_Gl/2012/original/Gerdemann_Linus_Luxembourg12_st2-1.jpg)

Linus Gerdemann: “It’s a great opportunity to be back on the road. I am super motivated to win big races for MTN-Qhubeka.”


Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15386/Linus-Gerdemann-Its-a-great-opportunity-to-be-back-on-the-road-I-am-super-motivated-to-win-big-races-for-MTN-Qhubeka.aspx#ixzz2doZPeFfW
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on September 03, 2013, 09:52
(http://news.velonation.com/Men/Road/Ga_Gl/2012/original/Gerdemann_Linus_Luxembourg12_st2-1.jpg)

Linus Gerdemann: “It’s a great opportunity to be back on the road. I am super motivated to win big races for MTN-Qhubeka.”


Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15386/Linus-Gerdemann-Its-a-great-opportunity-to-be-back-on-the-road-I-am-super-motivated-to-win-big-races-for-MTN-Qhubeka.aspx#ixzz2doZPeFfW

It does seem like a good fit but I cannot bring myself to like the guy or his frankly monumental self-belief. :)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on September 03, 2013, 10:03
It does seem like a good fit but I cannot bring myself to like the guy or his frankly monumental self-belief. :)

all good sports people have it , they must to be good

some are just good at keeping it under raps better than others
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on September 03, 2013, 10:52
all good sports people have it , they must to be good

some are just good at keeping it under raps better than others

That must be why I didn't make it as a sportsperson, then.

i.e. the having it, not the keeping it under wraps. :D
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on September 03, 2013, 11:11
MTN Qhubeka and Castelli sign two year partnership agreement

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15374/MTN-Qhubeka-and-Castelli-sign-two-year-partnership-agreement.aspx#ixzz2dp63XRvA
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 03, 2013, 14:25
It does seem like a good fit but I cannot bring myself to like the guy or his frankly monumental self-belief. :)
I thought Ciolek's best days were a thing of the past last year, after 4 seasons of pretty much nothing. When he was announced as the big signing last autumn, I thought "oh dear". We all know how it turned out - and now I'm totally on his side.


I hope the same happens with Linus.
I choose to call him "blessed with a lot of confidence" for now, and wait what happens next year. Maybe going to SA, seeing some bike hand-outs, training with riders that come from nothing etc. will make him a bit more humble; and if the rumours of him saying "no thanks" to a #mtn2013 offer last year are true, that will certainly help as well. Finally, I think Zemke is just the right person to knock some sense into him, from what I've seen in Hamburg: Hands-on, fair, but strict.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on September 10, 2013, 12:25
the lovely Florry retweeted this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuV2yB5l8hU

Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on September 14, 2013, 04:59
If I could change the title of this topic, it'd be Qhubeka- the German team with African stowaways or Qhubeka- the last African Professional continental team.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on September 14, 2013, 09:46
If I could change the title of this topic, it'd be Qhubeka- the German team with African stowaways or Qhubeka- the last African Professional continental team.

There is not enough African riders with a high enough quality to get them invitations (barring they had Froome under contract) so they have to sign talent from elsewhere, most likely europe, as Colombia only has riders that are build for tours, not any really good classic guys, and American riders are over priced because of the amount of teams with an interest in the US market, Australia already has all its best talent going to Greenedge. Leaving only minor cycling nations and Europe as a place to seek talents. Why Germany then, simple Germany has no UCI World Tour team and only one Pro Continental, therefore almost no german riders are signed because of their geography thus a better talent is available then if they tried picking up Itallian riders who have a slew of teams with interest in Italy.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on September 14, 2013, 10:05
Then maybe it should just not be called the African this or that anymore, lose the tag and be any other team. Cos they certainly resemble just about any other team atm.

Ciolek, Pardilla, Gerdemann, Konovalovas all commanding leader roles while the African helpers do nowt? I don't even see the point of Gerdemann signing, they've got Meintjes and he can develop and not even a cock yet.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on September 14, 2013, 12:27
Then maybe it should just not be called the African this or that anymore, lose the tag and be any other team. Cos they certainly resemble just about any other team atm.

Ciolek, Pardilla, Gerdemann, Konovalovas all commanding leader roles while the African helpers do nowt? I don't even see the point of Gerdemann signing, they've got Meintjes and he can develop and not even a cock yet.

Well their goal is to develop riders from Africa, however when almost nobody on the roster from Africa is worthy of being a leader, what can they do? Saxo is a Danish team, but how many prominent danes do they have on their roster? Matti who has stopped to develop all together and Chris Anker Sørensen who is a good rider, but not good enough to be a GT leader.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on September 14, 2013, 13:20
Their ultimate goal was to send an African team to the TdF. Last year, that would've meant a predominantly African team. Now it's just a bigger budget Baku cycling project, which is hardly very identifiable with Azerbaijan. Maybe they should cut down on their chest thumping with the identity being diluted more every year.

I used to like them, used to be one of my favourites. Nowt special about them now, Terengganu are more of a draw.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on September 14, 2013, 13:26
Then maybe it should just not be called the African this or that anymore, lose the tag and be any other team. Cos they certainly resemble just about any other team atm.

Ciolek, Pardilla, Gerdemann, Konovalovas all commanding leader roles while the African helpers do nowt? I don't even see the point of Gerdemann signing, they've got Meintjes and he can develop and not even a cock yet.

At times, I've felt like this myself. I don't want to put words into Ram's mouth but when I think about that side of things, it's a chicken-and-egg situation. Sometimes you feel like ...

a) the team shouldn't have come to Europe before developing the requisite African depth and that cherrypicking the UCI youth development programme is not a long-term strategy

... but then ...

b) the complete food chain needs to be in place to give young Africans the racing they need at the highest level, which is historically in Europe and if that means recruiting Euros to get the points and the invitations and pass on experience then so be it.

So ...

I want to feel like b) wins in the end but we need to be seeing African race leadership and results and soon if that policy's going to justify itself in the long term.

This is only one season of top level cycling for a team that's well backed but still finding its feet. Let's see what happens next year with Gerdemann onboard.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on September 15, 2013, 03:49
They didn't need the points, they're not in the World tour. Their invites to the two Italian races were not because of the spellbinding successes of a solitary stage win at the 3 days of West Flanders, neither was it Ciolek's U23 WC win. It was because Ryder had rimmed the RCS dry and that African identity, which sells far more than a Surinamese identity. In the middle distance, they'll need results to sustain the charm factor, but without any African results, the team has as much charm as a 78 year old gigolo.

Heck even the English cricket team is more African than them.

ETA- that is not even considering crap like their "black reservation".
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on September 15, 2013, 07:58
They didn't need the points, they're not in the World tour. Their invites to the two Italian races were not because of the spellbinding successes of a solitary stage win at the 3 days of West Flanders, neither was it Ciolek's U23 WC win. It was because Ryder had rimmed the RCS dry and that African identity, which sells far more than a Surinamese identity. In the middle distance, they'll need results to sustain the charm factor, but without any African results, the team has as much charm as a 78 year old gigolo.

Heck even the English cricket team is more African than them.

ETA- that is not even considering crap like their "black reservation".

Most of their African riders are white South Africans, so I suppose you could say that it is not a very African team, but apart from Adrien Niyonshuti what African talent currently on the roster could lead them? and even though  Adrien Niyonshuti might have potential to lead a team there still is the issue that he is more of a GC potential than a classics rider and those invitations are harder to get.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Ram on September 15, 2013, 09:30
Actually, no. That's not what I am saying. An African is an African regardless of colour of skin. Black African reservation is one of their policies; used to be 50%, now been reduced. I've not heard them say it is now not a policy, so I will assume it is still. That is still my biggest reservation (see what I did there) about them. The England cricket team reference was a quip about their dependence on South Africa.

Last year, Ryder was saying that his team would sign 5-6 internationals to give credibility. With Gerdemann, they already have 7, all in lead roles, and there could be more.

It's not just about the flat classics and the GC, even in the hilly races, Meintjes has helped Pardilla to summat a 25th spot while he got 30+. Why not just let the Saffer lead?

Their top is very un-African, and in all important races, the leaders have also been very non African, despite there being African potential. If they take the pragmatic approach of best results, then it's back to square one, nowt special about them. Champion Systems are not very different. I don't mind them being just another team, but if they're something special, special enough to continue thumping their chest about being African, then let them lead some races of decent size in Europe. Can only remember one race where it did, Tour of Norway. One can't come to Korea or Langkawi and say they're special cos of their African leaders, all Asian teams are very Asian.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: search on September 15, 2013, 09:41
there is potential of course, but if they are not good enough yet there is no point to let them be the leaders in european races (if you have better riders on your roster)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on September 15, 2013, 10:36
Actually, no. That's not what I am saying. An African is an African regardless of colour of skin. Black African reservation is one of their policies; used to be 50%, now been reduced.

I agree that an African is an African regardless, but cycling is already somewhat established amongst white South Africans. If they are want to spread cycling to Africa, they need a team that represent Africa as broadly as possible, ultimately to spread cycling in Africa they need to win, nobody in Rwanda or Congo is going to start caring about cycling because one of their riders does a top 50 in Amstel Gold Race, they need to win. Ultimately I am not a big fan of the whole focus on nationalities in cycling, I'd rather just see the best riders race the best races. But when fans have a nationalist focus it is clear that it won't happen. As far as globalization of cycling, I'm all for it, but I'm not sure it can be forced like the UCI is doing in China or like what MTN Qhubeka is doing, ultimately I see it as eventually a bright African talent will shine through, and spread interest to the sport in the area which he is from, I would like to know what has happened after Chris Froome rose to prominence, are more young people getting into cycling in Kenya and South Africa?
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on October 02, 2013, 07:23
Linus Gerdemann video interview: German talent expecting big things after year out of cycling

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15555/Linus-Gerdemann-video-interview-German-talent-expecting-big-things-after-year-out-of-cycling.aspx#ixzz2gXjmv3Zn

(http://news.velonation.com/Men/Road/Ga_Gl/2013/original/Gerdemann_Linus_MTN_Qhubeka13-1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiYPgjH9C54
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: froome19 on October 10, 2013, 20:36
Posted in the transfers thread, but I also thought it appropriate here:

Teklehaimanot moves to MTN-Qhubeka
 (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/teklehaimanot-moves-to-mtn-qhubeka)

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The MTN-Qhubeka p/b Samsung team today announced the signing of Eritreans Daniel Teklehaimanot and 19-year-old talent Merhawi Kudus for the 2014 and 2015 seasons. The two join previously-announced signing Linus Gerdemann and all 21 riders from this year's squad who are being retained for 2014.

Teklehaimanot, a multi-time national and African road and time trial champion comes from the Orica-GreenEdge team after a season abbreviated by visa issues, while Kuduis will make his professional debut with the South African-registered team.


Great for MTN, especially as it means the recruitment of more fully blooded Africans to their team, rather than more Germans etc. There is a fine line between compromising being competitive for the values of the team and so it really is a great signing as Teklehaimanot has got the talent and origins to fulfill both.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 11, 2013, 09:12
Not to mention Kudus.
He's the real deal.

Looks to become a good squad for the 2014 Giro ...
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: killswitch on October 17, 2013, 10:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIAa6Amp9PU

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15651/Video-Inside-MTN-Qhubekas-service-course.aspx
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 18, 2013, 18:02
Meinkies! :cool
That is all.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 05, 2013, 21:29
Jacques Janse van Rensburg (not related to Reinardt in any way) on his 2013 season and next year:
http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=janse-van-rensburg-eyes-podium-results-in-2014 (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=janse-van-rensburg-eyes-podium-results-in-2014)
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 15, 2013, 15:30
(http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/files/2013/11/Douglas-Ryder-659x440.jpg)

MTN-Qhubeka inches closer to making grand tour debut (http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/11/news/mtn-qhubeka-closer-to-fielding-african-team-in-grand-tour_309349)

Followed By

(http://qhubeka.org/2013/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/bike2-560x275.jpg)

QHUBEKA AND RCS SPORT HANDOVER 58 BUFFALO BICYCLES (http://qhubeka.org/2013/?news=qhubeka-and-rcs-sport-handover-58-buffalo-bicycles)

Which is great

and also means  #mtn2013  = #pink start
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 15, 2013, 16:00
Yeah, I'd say their chances of a Giro wildcard is 100% by now.
Higher than Bardiani-CSF even (who will of course get one anyway).
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: Blackbandit222 on November 15, 2013, 16:03
Which is great

and also means  #mtn2013  = #pink start

Makes sense
2012 - Netapp
2013 - Columbia
2014 - Qhubeka;  Could be interesting if UHC lands a big name.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 20, 2013, 07:21
Gerald Ciolek: "My generation began with the success of Ullrich and the T-Mobile" (http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=67377)

His bet was amazing, spent the Omega Pharma-Quick Step to Team MTN-Qhubeka, the first African in the elite. A year after taking that decision, Gerald Ciolek (1986) is delighted with the experience and equipment with him. No one would expect for their extraordinary victory in the Milan-San Remo. The German recovered that shone that led him to win the German Championships in 2005 with only 18 and Under 23 World Championship in 2006.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on December 09, 2013, 17:42
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on December 10, 2013, 08:09
Spring classics! :cool

Gent-Wevelgem is a race Ciolek could win (or podium).
And of course Reguigui needs more experience before targeting Paris-Roubaix in a couple of years ... :D
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: 42x16ss on December 10, 2013, 08:36
Yeah, I'd say their chances of a Giro wildcard is 100% by now.
Higher than Bardiani-CSF even (who will of course get one anyway).

I'm liking their probable Giro lineup:

Linus Gerdemann
Gerald Ciolek
Daniel Teklehaymanot
Ignatas Konovalovas
Sergio Pardilla
John-Lee Augustyn
Jay Thomson

and two of either:

Venter, Meintjes, Niyonshuti or Kudus.

They won't be out of their depth IMO.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: mc_mountain on December 10, 2013, 09:16
I'm liking their probable Giro lineup:

Linus Gerdemann
Gerald Ciolek
Daniel Teklehaymanot
Ignatas Konovalovas
Sergio Pardilla
John-Lee Augustyn
Jay Thomson

and two of either:

Venter, Meintjes, Niyonshuti or Kudus.

They won't be out of their depth IMO.

they could definitely put up a good showing - Kudus I think would be too young to be considered for a Grand Tour and I reckon they would try to get Sbaragli in the line up, both for Ciolek and the PR
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on December 10, 2013, 09:36
I'm liking their probable Giro lineup:

Linus Gerdemann
Gerald Ciolek
Daniel Teklehaymanot
Ignatas Konovalovas
Sergio Pardilla
John-Lee Augustyn
Jay Thomson

and two of either:

Venter, Meintjes, Niyonshuti or Kudus.

They won't be out of their depth IMO.
The 7 you list are pretty much certain, yes. And it's a decent squad.
Venter will probably get the 8th spot, he's valuable as a domestique and for breakaways.

The last spot is between Sbaragli, Meintjes, Grmay and Niyonshuti in my opinion:
Kudus is still too young, they'll want to get him more experience before sending him to a GT.
mc_mountain makes a good point regarding Sbaragli, but I also think they shouldn't have more European than African riders - #GetAfricaToTheGiro loses its point if it's only #Get4AfricanRidersToTheGiroInOrderToSupportTheirEuropeanTeammates.
A year ago I would have said Niyonshuti was certain of a GT spot, but after his rather serious illness I think he's not on his old level yet. His performance in Rwanda showed that, he didn't go for a stage win once, while Thomson, van Zyl and Meintjes all won a stage.
That leaves Grmay and Meintjes. Meintjes has the silver medal from the U23 Worlds to show that he has the talent, but as far as I know, Zemke has a high opinion of Grmay. Either way, I think their chances are about equal at the moment, and the first months of the season will show who gets the nod.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: mc_mountain on December 10, 2013, 10:03
... I also think they shouldn't have more European than African riders - #GetAfricaToTheGiro loses its point if it's only #Get4AfricanRidersToTheGiroInOrderToSupportTheirEuropeanTeammates.


Well Gerdemann will have to have a decent start to the season to prove he is worth a place (for GC he's not likely to vastly outshine Pardilla, who is already a proven performer within the team). So perhaps it will be he that loses out, if the Fus quota is inacted.  JLA too will need to prove himself again.

Agree that both Meintjes and Grmay have shown enough to be strongly considered.
Title: Re: Qhubeka- winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on December 10, 2013, 21:05
Well Gerdemann will have to have a decent start to the season to prove he is worth a place (for GC he's not likely to vastly outshine Pardilla, who is already a proven performer within the team). So perhaps it will be he that loses out, if the Fus quota is inacted.  JLA too will need to prove himself again.
I think that unless Gerdemann is completely off the pace of the peloton, he's certain of a Giro spot.
When his signing was announced, Doug Ryder said this:
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“We are incredibly happy to have Linus join our team,” added Team Principal Douglas Ryder. “With 8 Grand Tours under his belt he will really strengthen our team in our Grand Tour aspirations for 2014 and 2015. We have shown that we are able to support and build talent from the African Continent as well as resurrect rider careers due to the teams high performance culture, management and sponsor support. Our focus of racing for the Qhubeka Project inspires our riders to do so much more on the bike and give back to the sport they love, their success makes a huge difference to so many other people. A GC rider like Linus will bring our team more opportunities as we aim to take African Cycling to the highest levels of World Cycling.”
Most importantly, Gerdemann knows what a GT is, has done them before, and knows what to expect. For a team like #mtn2013, this kind of experience is invaluable. Zemke has expressed confidence that they'll get Gerdemann up to speed in the time remaining; he's already been training under #mtn2013 staff guidance since his signing.
Augustyn, like Gerdemann, has GT experience, and therefore the inner lane in the race for the Giro spots. Like Gerdemann, he'll be in unless he's completely useless in the early races - which I don't think he'll be, after getting over his physical problems (hip injury if I remember correctly) he's been training extensively in South Africa and done MTB races.
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Post by: just some guy on December 11, 2013, 12:09
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Post by: just some guy on December 12, 2013, 15:52
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/12/news/healthy-augustyn-returns-to-the-peloton-with-mtn-qhubeka_311060 (http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/12/news/healthy-augustyn-returns-to-the-peloton-with-mtn-qhubeka_311060)
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Post by: LukasCPH on December 16, 2013, 19:09
After his silver medal at the U23 Worlds, Louis Meintjes has been voted African Cyclist Of The Year, narrowly beating Tour yellow jersey holder Daryl Impey:
http://cyclingquotes.com/news/meintjes_voted_african_cyclist_of_the_year/ (http://cyclingquotes.com/news/meintjes_voted_african_cyclist_of_the_year/)
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Post by: just some guy on December 18, 2013, 07:04
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Post by: just some guy on December 18, 2013, 07:52
Gerdemann to target 2014 Giro in comeback season with MTN-Qhubeka (http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/12/news/gerdemann-to-target-2014-giro-in-comeback-season-with-mtn-qhubeka_311363)
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Post by: LukasCPH on December 18, 2013, 08:14
Interesting last paragraph:
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“Maybe as a young guy you want to be in a WorldTour, with all the glamour stuff and having all the races in front of you,” Gerdemann explained. “In the first division, most of the time you are going to races where you don’t want to go. One of the benefits of the second division is that you can prepare much more specifically for certain races. This can be a good thing for me.”
Not the first time I've heard someone say this.
It's a bit like Cervélo TestTeam - why spend a lot of money on a WT license and participate in races you don't want to ride when you can get the same season highlights and a better, more targeted preparation?
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Post by: just some guy on December 18, 2013, 08:29
Interesting last paragraph:Not the first time I've heard someone say this.
It's a bit like Cervélo TestTeam - why spend a lot of money on a WT license and participate in races you don't want to ride when you can get the same season highlights and a better, more targeted preparation?

Will Walker said the same the other day.

Which makes the whole EE thing for the last3 years or so so stupid imo, they drop down save money do races they want probably win more etc etc.

IAM and Netapp are doing similar things
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Post by: LukasCPH on December 18, 2013, 11:34
World Bicycle Relief video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGwfQrTwRyM
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Post by: al_pacino on December 18, 2013, 13:40
Interesting last paragraph:Not the first time I've heard someone say this.
It's a bit like Cervélo TestTeam - why spend a lot of money on a WT license and participate in races you don't want to ride when you can get the same season highlights and a better, more targeted preparation?

If you don't get the invites you're knackered. Some teams thinking they have a GT invite coming will be disappointed.
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Post by: LukasCPH on December 18, 2013, 14:13
If you don't get the invites you're knackered. Some teams thinking they have a GT invite coming will be disappointed.
Yes, there's that.
But that's why Cervélo signed Sastre, Haussler, Hushovd etc. - they made sure they wouldn't be overlooked. IAM signed Chavanel for the same reason.
MTN-Qhubeka have been charming RCS for a year and a half now. If they get a Giro wildcard (I'm fairly sure they will, and the team seems to think so to - even though they may not tell the public that), it will be not because of one single rider they've signed, but because they have convinced the organisers of the concept behind the team.
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Post by: al_pacino on December 18, 2013, 17:00
Yes, there's that.
But that's why Cervélo signed Sastre, Haussler, Hushovd etc. - they made sure they wouldn't be overlooked. IAM signed Chavanel for the same reason.
MTN-Qhubeka have been charming RCS for a year and a half now. If they get a Giro wildcard (I'm fairly sure they will, and the team seems to think so to - even though they may not tell the public that), it will be not because of one single rider they've signed, but because they have convinced the organisers of the concept behind the team.

I quite agree. Chavanel will be riding the Tour and MTN-Qhubeka have really been working at the Giro invite, in the right way too. It's just you can never be 100% certain(how many brown envelopes changed hands etc), I'm sure Geox saw a Tour invite coming there way.
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Post by: LukasCPH on December 18, 2013, 17:05
It's just you can never be 100% certain(how many brown envelopes changed hands etc), I'm sure Geox saw a Tour invite coming there way.
Which is why you should never be too certain of yourself and play the game the right way.
Geox thought hiring Menchov & Sastre would be enough, but they were aging stars already, past their prime.
And Gianetti/Matxin weren't exactly best buddies with ASO.

If you're ProConti, you have to be humble (at least in public) and try to endear yourself with the big guys. Riding their smaller races, not taking things for granted etc.
IAM have learnt that lesson by now, MTN appear to have known it from the start. Of course some teams have to do less of this 'networking' than others - e.g. it helps immensely if you're a French ProConti team (as long as there aren't too many of those).
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Post by: DB-Coop on December 20, 2013, 21:48
Which is why you should never be too certain of yourself and play the game the right way.
Geox thought hiring Menchov & Sastre would be enough, but they were aging stars already, past their prime.
And Gianetti/Matxin weren't exactly best buddies with ASO.

There being 4 french pro-conti teams in 2011 also meant it was pretty impossible. It was not fair really to exclude last years number 3 and a former winner. Saur Sojasun should never have ridden that tour.
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 01, 2014, 21:47
Have you ever wondered what got a pro cyclist into taking up the sport in the first place? Sometimes, it's a naked woman! :D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc69yvlIgAA2_Vy.jpg:large)
(via James Louter)
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Post by: froome19 on January 01, 2014, 21:52
Yes I read that article...There were quite a few good puns in there as well.

Also everyone, for all of your diehard MTN fans out there, here is a chance to show your dedications:
Sign up to become an MTN superfan now!!
http://sot.ag/2d2Z5/

Spoiler (hover to show)
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 01, 2014, 21:57
And here's a close-up of Jay Thomson, showing that the hands have made it onto the champion's jerseys as well:
(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/988801_725453680807908_1306240771_n.jpg)
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Post by: August on January 01, 2014, 23:17
Like the white, shows off the hands better which is a cool design IMO.
Hate the tiny flag band across the chest.
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 09, 2014, 12:25
Youcef Reguigui takes the first win of the season in some small Algerian race I don't even know the name of:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdhmoJDIcAA229x.jpg:large)

And it's his 23rd birthday today. Joyeux anniversaire, Youcef!
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Post by: just some guy on January 10, 2014, 20:34
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 10, 2014, 20:42
Gabon won't be how a European rider would expect it to be.
It's not the usual (some would call it boring) Euro racing you see in *insert some random 2.1 race here*.
The Africans will attack everywhere, not just on a climb - maybe particularly not on a climb. And just because they're caught again, they don't give up.
It's old school racing.
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Post by: froome19 on January 16, 2014, 16:48
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MTN-Qhubeka received some measure of consolation by securing invitations to Tirreno-Adriatico and Milan-San Remo, which Gerald Ciolek won last year, but the South African squad will be disappointed to miss out on a grand tour debut.

But nevertheless I really believe that MTN were braced for a Giro spot this year and had the roster to manage it and even shine. Unfortunately it went the way of Yellow Fluo team instead, even though I don't like how they mention that all 4 teams are MPCC members. What does that matter, when Yellow team had two very high profile positives last year? However, unfortunately I fear nationality bias got in the way of the decision, not to say it is awful, but I do think MTN would have been a much better pick.

Especially as in commercial terms, a first African team going to the Giro would have made for some great marketing and MTN themselves were launching a big marketing campaign in their push to the Giro. Now however it is all for naught, nationality bias will certainly see them miss a wildcard for the Tour + IAM/Netapp and anyway it is probably too early, whilst a Vuelta wildcard is an outside chance but also unlikely imo.

 :ehjvil:
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 16, 2014, 17:17
I may just be overly optimistic here, but the #mtn team staff don't seem as disappointed as I would have thought. Maybe they're just better at hiding it, but:
https://twitter.com/XylonVE/status/423815440138113024
https://twitter.com/andystauff/status/423854028247007232
https://twitter.com/MartinRedReimer/status/423854914688020480
What if they know something we don't? :shh
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Post by: just some guy on January 16, 2014, 17:53
No way these guys should be getting a wild card for the Tour.

Agreed tbh

Vuelta outside chance, made harder if samu and Horner are in the #fluo team
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Post by: search on January 16, 2014, 19:13
RAI does not even cover the Vuelta as far as I know, I don't think #fluo will even approve for a wildcard, whether with Horner and/or Samu (and I think both signings are very unlikely) or not
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 17, 2014, 11:38
So, now that the frantic expectations of doom have blown over, and Horner's presentation at #lampre seems to be imminent, let's focus on something far more important: The fate of the MTN Qhubeka-WCC Africa team.

Social media once again come to the rescue in this short conversation with the WCC Africa director:
https://twitter.com/JP_VanZyl/status/424139149063761920
https://twitter.com/lukascph/status/424139887097294848
https://twitter.com/JP_VanZyl/status/424140655074758656
I take that to mean that an announcement of the team composition, race calendar etc. will come soon.
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 19, 2014, 10:48
Copeland leaves MTN-Qhubeka (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/copeland-leaves-mtn-qhubeka)
At the time I was very concerned this could amount to a German "takeover" of the team. As time showed, that was not the case.
And looking at a new article that has nothing to do with #mtn on the surface, I think the split-up might have been on entirely different grounds:
VeloNews: Lampre manager Copeland hopeful he can sign Horner (http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/01/news/lampre-manager-copeland-hopeful-he-can-sign-horner_313829)
We knew Copeland was back at Lampre, now he's pushing for Horner to become part of the team.
Draw your own conclusions.
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Post by: DB-Coop on January 19, 2014, 18:24
Draw your own conclusions.

That is a dangerous conclusion there.
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 19, 2014, 19:03
Yes, it is.
I'm not drawing it; I'm saying that it's a conclusion that could be drawn, not that people should indeed draw it. ;)
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Post by: froome19 on January 19, 2014, 19:18
At the time I was very concerned this could amount to a German "takeover" of the team. As time showed, that was not the case.
And looking at a new article that has nothing to do with #mtn on the surface, I think the split-up might have been on entirely different grounds:
VeloNews: Lampre manager Copeland hopeful he can sign Horner (http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/01/news/lampre-manager-copeland-hopeful-he-can-sign-horner_313829)
We knew Copeland was back at Lampre, now he's pushing for Horner to become part of the team.
Draw your own conclusions.

I won't sidetrack the thread, but most likely it is just an opportunistic case of why not? Who wouldn't want to sign Horner, if his wages are low enough, which they probably have been forced down.. for a one year contract and your reputation isn't really much anyways that signing a rider with a cloud hanging over him isn't that big a deal.
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 19, 2014, 19:55
You're completely right, signing Horner could simply be opportunistic. Lampre's reputation can't get much worse, after all. (And that's probably enough dark side hinting for here)

The facts are that Copeland has been at Lampre for most of the last decade. And that he had differences with the rest of the #mtn management.
I'm just reading stuff into it that may not be there at all. But it could be.
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 19, 2014, 22:39
Moving to more pleasant matters.
Louis Meintjes has been presented with the trophy for African Cyclist of the Year (2013). Here it is:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2aew7xk.jpg)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on January 21, 2014, 17:58
https://twitter.com/CyclingDirectSA/status/425665722975387648
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 22, 2014, 20:54
Interview with Mein-kies: :cool
http://www.cyclingupdates.com/interview-louis-meintjes/ (http://www.cyclingupdates.com/interview-louis-meintjes/)
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Post by: LukasCPH on January 28, 2014, 14:13
Look mum, there's a hand! The new #mtn helmets:
https://twitter.com/vanSnail/status/428082545654497280
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDazprIQAAFBf5.jpg:large)
Any excuse to post van Zyl stuff. :D
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Post by: just some guy on January 31, 2014, 07:04
https://twitter.com/LGerdemann/status/429019842696327168

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfQvRhMCAAI4zgX.jpg)


https://twitter.com/lacambramanel/status/428996340195262464

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfQZ5e-IYAAWbqD.jpg)
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Post by: just some guy on January 31, 2014, 16:41
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfUnposCcAA5FPI.jpg)

https://twitter.com/TeamMTNQhubeka/status/429292935889182720
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Post by: just some guy on February 07, 2014, 09:10
https://twitter.com/TeamMTNQhubeka/status/431716011134701568
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Post by: LukasCPH on February 15, 2014, 19:30
A piece on Louis Meintjes (in Spanish):
http://cobblesandhills.com/wordpress/2014/02/15/louis-meintjes-el-escalador-de-pretoria/ (http://cobblesandhills.com/wordpress/2014/02/15/louis-meintjes-el-escalador-de-pretoria/)
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Post by: just some guy on February 18, 2014, 16:37
https://twitter.com/TeamMTNQhubeka/status/435812993600069633
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on February 23, 2014, 09:23
An interview I did with Gerald Ciolek:
Ciolek: The spring classics are a goal for me (http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/ciolek_the_spring_classics_are_a_goal_for_me/)
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Post by: froome19 on February 27, 2014, 17:12
 Meintjes once again (http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/louis-meintjes-aiming-high-mtn-qhubeka-116249)

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South African Louis Meintjes, second in the Under 23 World Championship last year, wants to win – nothing else. Team MTN-Qhubeka will field him in a series of races this year to allow him to develop into a leader.

“I don’t want to just be a domestique, not that there’s anything wrong with it,” Meintjes told Cycling Weekly. “It’s nice to set goals and try to achieve things. That’s the fun in cycling for me. If it’s not there then I can go and do something else.”

At the 2013 Worlds in Florence, the 22-year-old made a group of favourites with two laps remaining and on the last lap, put in a solo attack to catch the lone leader. He failed to catch Matej Mohoric but finished three seconds back for a silver medal. GB’s Yates twins, Adam and Simon placed in the group behind at 13 seconds.

Nice goal, I really like Louis:

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“I don’t want to become just an average rider. I want to aim to be the best otherwise I’ll do something else where I can be the best.”

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Post by: froome19 on February 27, 2014, 18:40
Augustyn happy to be back on the bike
 (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/augustyn-happy-to-be-back-on-the-bike)

What strikes me about this is MTN are really providing a pathway back and into the world of professional cycling for many of their riders. It would really be an amazing success story if they excel and step up, even riding their first Grand Tour will be wonderful. Lets just hope that wish comes quickly.

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There may have been times when he considered throwing in the towel, and he almost did when he chose to take a break from the sport, but he says that forgetting about cycling was easier said than done. "Racing is in your blood, once you start. It's a hectic sport. Once you get used to it, it's almost addictive," Augustyn told Cyclingnews ahead of the Tour de Langkawi.

"The pain afterwards and that rush that you get in the peloton, you get used to it and that's what keeps you motivated and keeps on going. It was good to have a good rest and get my head sorted out. Everything is settled, but it's nice to be back."

The South African rode his first race for well over a year at La Tropicale Amissa Bongo in January. The Tour de Langkawi is his third race since coming back and he says that he felt nervous when he lined up in Gabon. "I did some amateur races back in my hometown so I sort of got the feel for racing. But when I started my first pro race, it was nerve wracking and exciting. I wasn't sure what to expect."

- He mentions the Giro and puts an optimistic spin on it, saying team still too young and he is right. Hoping for a Vuelta invite.
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Post by: DB-Coop on February 28, 2014, 21:55
http://www.dr.dk/tv/se/cykelloebet-tour-du-faso/cykelloebet-tour-du-faso#!/

Tour du Faso documentary.
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Post by: LukasCPH on March 22, 2014, 02:21
Ciolek proves the point made in this post (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=5215.msg147617#msg147617):
https://twitter.com/ubishaqve/status/446940117148897280
https://twitter.com/GeraldCiolek/status/447058597533736960
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Post by: DB-Coop on March 23, 2014, 07:04
https://twitter.com/ubishaqve/status/446940117148897280
https://twitter.com/GeraldCiolek/status/447058597533736960

This might be worth some further investigation, I noticed that many people with the same name have the same kind of job, I believe it is a case of different social classes naming their children after different things. As an example Charles is a great name for a lawyer, but a terrible name for a homeless person. In Denmark this also is apparent as the lower class in Denmark have typically picked names that are more English than Danish. Ronnie being the prime example. There have been some speculation to if this is people naming their children after PL players. Another good case is try to find an unemployed person named Mortimer, it won't happen. Seeing as I only now one other Gerald, I think, I can't really judge based on name, if anyone can tell me what the average Gerald does I would appreciate it. Anyway what I then thought of was why not judge on the pictures that appear on Google, without further ado, here is Gerald Ciolek's alternate careers.

Option #1: Member of German Boyband and pop sensation 'Die Fahrradfreunde' here seen at the Milram awards after going double platinum with their first single 'Focus':
(http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/files/2010/01/milram-embed.jpg)
Sidenotes:
Spoiler (hover to show)

Option #2: Studding to become a hairdresser in Copenhagen at the renowned celebrity hairdresser Tage Frandsen
(http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2012/01/02/2/ciolek_profile_600.jpg)(http://www.seoghoer.dk/~/media/Se%20og%20Hoer/Kendte%20Danmark/tage%20frandsen%20konkurs1%20jpg.ashx)
Sidenotes:
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Option#3: Actor in a prison movie.
(http://www.solestar.com/assets/images/de/athleten/Gerald_519x745_Hemd.jpg)
Spoiler (hover to show)

Option #4: Older brother and manager of Jakob Fuglsang
(http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/may08/henninger08/DSC_0032alt.jpg)(http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2011/01/06/2/presteamleopard014fuglsang_600.jpg)

Option #5: Yogurt salesmen for German dairy giant Zott, Ciolek is here seen very nervous before his big presentation at the Milram Dairy Convention in Bern, Switzerland.
(http://www.spox.com/de/sport/mehrsport/radsport/1002/Bilder/ciolek-gerald-514.jpg)
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Post by: Slow Rider on March 23, 2014, 08:38
Option #6: Appear as Gerald "The Duke" Ciolek in Larri's Marmalade Jam (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=5121.msg143477#msg143477), as an accomplished Hammond organ player.
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Post by: LukasCPH on April 23, 2014, 21:57
Merhawi Kudus is being talked up ahead of the Tour of Turkey.

As PezCycling News have copied the press release word for word (misspellings and all), they can hardly blame me for quoting them in turn:
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Merhawi Kudus, the other African sensation

Eritrea’s Merhawi Kudus (Team MTN-Qhubeka) is one of the favourites to take over from compatriot Natnael Berhane (Europcar) and claim victory in the Presidential of Turkey, celebrating its 50th anniversary this year.

Last year, the Presidential Tour of Turkey made headlines by crowning the first Black African rider in a HC race with a line-up worthy of a World Tour event.

At the top of Elmali, the finishing point of the TUR’s queen stage, Natnael Berhane caused a sensation by raising his arms in victory. The charming Europcar rider confirmed his talent since by winning the Tour of Gabon and should make his Grand Tour debut this season. His rise to the top last year on the Turkish roads was all the more emblematic as it crowned years of effort by the International Cycling Union (UCI) to detect and train promising young riders from a continent so far undervalued in cycling terms.

Berhane warned he was not an isolated case and that an Eritrean would soon feature into the very best in the world – now Merhawi Kudus, 20, will be at the start of the TUR to defend his country’s colours. The young Eritrean has been one of his continent’s brightest prospects since he joined the UCI’s African centre of Potchefstrom in South Africa, and later the world centre of Aigle, in Switzerland: “We had rarely seen a rider with so much class,” said trainer Jean-Jacques Henry, who looked after him as a trainee with Continental team Bretagne-Séché Environnement.

Kudus finally turned pro for African team MTN-Qhubeka and has kept earning honours since the start of the season – 2nd in the Tour of Langkawi in Malaysia and 3rd in the Mzansi Tour in South Africa. “He really is a great satisfaction for us,” said team manager Douglas Ryder.

“His climbing abilities are obvious. That is why, in spite of his young age, we made him our leader for the Tour of Turkey, a very important race in our programme and we’ll also pin hopes for stage wins on our two young sprinters, Youcef Reguigui and Kristian Sbaragli.”

For their second year as a Continental Pro team, the South African outfit went up a gear by gaining an invitation to the Spanish Vuelta: “It was a sign of recognition for the work we’re doing for young riders and especially African riders,” added Ryder, who sees the Tour of Turkey as a turning point of the season.
And for cycling lovers who are not yet aware of Merhawi Kudus, the TUR will be a great opportunity to discover his talent on the screen in a race now broadcast internationally.
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Post by: just some guy on May 07, 2014, 10:03
http://vimeo.com/93719127

Gerdemann names Vuelta as top season goal (http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/05/gerdemann-names-vuelta-as-top-season-goal/)
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Post by: just some guy on June 13, 2014, 10:57
Carlos Sastre Candil ‏@Carlos_Sastre  Jun 9
Three good friends before the battle, today Passo Fedaia ( Marmolada ) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BprHb15IIAABF3Q.jpg)
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Post by: LukasCPH on July 29, 2014, 07:33
Brian Smith will become interim General Manager for #mtn MTN-Qhubeka:
Link to website (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=team-mtn-qhubeka-welcomes-brian-smith-as-interim-general-manager)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on August 01, 2014, 09:40
i saw john lee agustyn hasn't had much by the way of results and hasn't raced for a while, is he still struggling with injury?

I know it'll take him time to get back to get up to speed, but he was great in the barloworld days (2nd only to soler probably) so i was really hoping he'd kick on.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on August 01, 2014, 09:43
he has retired again a couple of weeks ago, couldn't overcome his problems with health/injuries

http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=john-lee-augustyn-retires-professional-cycling
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 04, 2014, 20:35
Andy Stauff has been interviewed by PCM.daily (http://pcmdaily.com/news.php?readmore=930). Not really long or detailed, but still worth a read.

And the team is slowly, but surely churning up interest for the Vuelta:
https://twitter.com/TeamMTNQhubeka/status/496333507611070464
If you are interested in knowing the @TeamMTNQhubeka line-up for @lavuelta, please retweet this #MTNLaVuelta :)

Personally, I think those riders have the biggest chances:
100% *de Gerald Ciolek sprinter - probably best shot at a stage win
100% *de Linus Gerdemann GC leader
100% *es Sergio Pardilla GC co-leader
100% *za Louis Meintjes will go for whatever he can in the mountains (stage win?)
95% *za Jay Thomson experienced and not opposed to working all day
85% *za Jaco Venter see Thomson
80% *it Kristian Sbaragli leadout for Ciolek and second option for the sprint
75% *er Merhawi Kudus only in his first pro year - but a great talent who can learn a lot from a GT
60% *za Jacques Janse van Rensburg has had a good 2014 (won Mzansi Tour & 6th in Langkawi) - could get rewarded for that
50% *er Daniel Teklehaimanot one of the more experienced Africans with 2 years at #orica
30% *lt Ignatas Konovalovas could target the stage 10 ITT
10% *za Songezo Jim the human interest story - orphan from Cape Town township makes a better life through bike racing
5% *et Tsgabu Grmay another talent - but listed for Tour de Limousin (19/08-22/08) - Vuelta starts 23/08
5% *za Dennis van Niekerk decent climber - but listed for Tour de Limousin (19/08-22/08) - Vuelta starts 23/08
5% *rw Adrien Niyonshuti two years ago he would have been a shoo-in - but since then he's had a health scare that made him miss most of the 2013 season - also listed for Tour de Limousin (19/08-22/08) - Vuelta starts 23/08
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on August 04, 2014, 20:51
songezo jim and adrien niyonshuti have got to be in with a shout for an appearance
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 04, 2014, 20:54
songezo jim and adrien niyonshuti have got to be in with a shout for an appearance
You'd think so. Niyonshuti is down for the Tour du Limousin though, so I think it's very unlikely. As far as I know, he's also not quite recovered from his health scare that made him miss most of last season.
Jim is a bit more likely, with his whole "orphan from Cape Town township" background.
I've given them a percentage as well. ;)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on August 04, 2014, 22:20
Andy Stauff has been interviewed by PCM.daily (http://pcmdaily.com/news.php?readmore=930). Not really long or detailed, but still worth a read.

And the team is slowly, but surely churning up interest for the Vuelta:
https://twitter.com/TeamMTNQhubeka/status/496333507611070464
If you are interested in knowing the @TeamMTNQhubeka line-up for @lavuelta, please retweet this #MTNLaVuelta :)

Personally, I think those riders have the biggest chances:
100% *de Gerald Ciolek sprinter - probably best shot at a stage win
100% *de Linus Gerdemann GC leader
100% *es Sergio Pardilla GC co-leader
100% *za Louis Meintjes will go for whatever he can in the mountains (stage win?)
95% *za Jay Thomson experienced and not opposed to working all day
85% *za Jaco Venter see Thomson
80% *it Kristian Sbaragli leadout for Ciolek and second option for the sprint
75% *er Merhawi Kudus only in his first pro year - but a great talent who can learn a lot from a GT
60% *za Jacques Janse van Rensburg has had a good 2014 (won Mzansi Tour & 6th in Langkawi) - could get rewarded for that
50% *er Daniel Teklehaimanot one of the more experienced Africans with 2 years at #orica
30% *lt Ignatas Konovalovas could target the stage 10 ITT
10% *za Songezo Jim the human interest story - orphan from Cape Town township makes a better life through bike racing
5% *et Tsgabu Grmay another talent - but listed for Tour de Limousin (19/08-22/08) - Vuelta starts 23/08
5% *za Dennis van Niekerk decent climber - but listed for Tour de Limousin (19/08-22/08) - Vuelta starts 23/08
5% *rw Adrien Niyonshuti two years ago he would have been a shoo-in - but since then he's had a health scare that made him miss most of the 2013 season - also listed for Tour de Limousin (19/08-22/08) - Vuelta starts 23/08

I think maybe Kudus and the same 8 that they sent to Tour de Suisse. Maybe Konovalovas over Venter too. To have another rider that has completed a GT.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 04, 2014, 23:06
I think maybe Kudus and the same 8 that they sent to Tour de Suisse. Maybe Konovalovas over Venter too. To have another rider that has completed a GT.
It sounds logical. And I can see the point in picking Konovalovas over Venter - but Venter and Thomson have been a package deal since forever, I don't think they have ridden a single race apart from each other since the start of last year. They're dependable domestiques that can also be relied upon to take their own chance when the opportunity and/or need arises.

The reason I've ranked Sbaragli so high (apart from him being listed on PCS) is that he's currently participating in a team altitude camp in Livigno. He's a sprinter, there would be little need for that if he was to do a selection of short stage races and one-day races for the rest of the season. If he is expected to survive the climbs of the Vuelta, however, it makes perfect sense.

I'll try to find out who's in Livigno, and who's not - that might shine an even better light on the selection than my half-educated guesses. ;)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on August 04, 2014, 23:30
i don't know much, but would expect konolovas to be pretty much a cert based on having finished multiple GTs and having won a stage, also TTT first stage they'll be keen to stay in contention if  they can
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 04, 2014, 23:35
Normally I would agree.
However, with Gerdemann, Ciolek and Pardilla you already have three Europeans. Sbaragli would be the fourth, and I think the team will want to have a majority of African riders. Sbaragli and Konovalovas would make it 5/9 Europeans.
But maybe Konovalovas is a certainty, and Sbaragli is only getting some hard training for his autumn one-day races - what do I know ... :D
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 16, 2014, 16:50
https://twitter.com/TeamMTNQhubeka/status/500670043248934912
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvK8wAFIIAAJ9L0.jpg:large)
*it Sbaragli
*za Venter
*za Thomson
*de Ciolek
*es Pardilla
*za Meintjes
*er Kudus
*za Janse van Rensburg
*er Teklehaimanot

No Gerdemann, that's a bit of a surprise.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 17, 2014, 15:01
I had a talk with Jens Zemke: ;)
CyclingQuotes: The Tour is our goal for 2015 (http://cyclingquotes.com/news/zemke_the_tour_is_our_goal_for_2015/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: cj2002 on August 20, 2014, 14:05
Qhubeka - changing the world in a place nowhere near you.

Youth Olympics: Rwandan teenagers cycling out of poverty

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/28826059 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/28826059)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on August 22, 2014, 07:37
new kit being presented today
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on August 22, 2014, 09:38
Sneak preview of said kit:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvoROiXIUAAloqi.jpg:large)
Apart from the cuff being all red instead of yellow & red, this part looks like the regular jersey.

My personal guess is that the vertical yellow stripe on the jersey will get red stripes on both sides to resemble the *es Spanish flag.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on August 29, 2014, 11:16
Ok I need some help.

1st I can see some ofmthe reasons why, but I have issues.

So MTN have Ciolek goes alright onmhard finishes when weather is cold and sh*t.

Sign EBH and search has summend up the issues well, we will say hard finishes, classics and break away in tours

work is they will sign Bos , Farrar and Goss

They have the return of Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg

we have 2 riders EBH and Bos who need a lot of help in sprints to get set up, without Brownie I worry how many chances Bos might miss on, Farrar causes a lot if crashes, and Goss well I am not sure.

Maybe Farrar, Goss, Rensburg, Bos as a leadout combo might work, but I am not sure how this all fits together.

I understand the idea, the more places,  top 10 you get the better the team points,  look at Greenedge and how they built their team, similar idea but I have a hard time seeing it work with these guys, all of this excluding the whole Africa argument

 
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on August 29, 2014, 21:38
work is they will sign Bos , Farrar and Goss

All of them, I see signing Bos, probably a top 10 sprinter, and to be fair if you have Ciolek and EBH to help him in the flat sprints, and Ciolek and EBH for the classics, have to like the sound of that. Goss is a fine signing if he comes cheap, there is no knowing if you get the current or the 2011 Goss, but if you pay him 2014 production money what is not to love. However 5 sprinters (somewhat) and a couple other fast guys on the roster (Impey maybe too) The rider they really need is Impey, maybe Berhane if they can get him, in terms of African riders that can get you wins, I think it goes Froome, Impey, Berhane - CF is obviously out of the question, but no reason not to try and get the two others.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on September 02, 2014, 09:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJUoYxkW23A
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on September 22, 2014, 11:54
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/09/retirement-wasnt-an-option-what-the-move-to-mtn-qhubeka-means-for-matt-goss/
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 09, 2014, 15:49
https://twitter.com/ProTeamLPM13/status/520222080684789760
Konovalovas has signed with #pomme The Apples from Marseille.

12 of the current team have been re-signed (they said they'd keep 14). Several others have signed with other teams or announced that they will go elsewhere, leaving the following with an (officially) unclear future:
*er Frekalsi Debesay
*et Tsgabu Grmay
*za Bradley Potgieter
*dz Youcef Reguigui
*za Dennis van Niekerk
*za Martin Wesemann
Potgieter and Wesemann are almost certainly not getting a new contract.
So it's between Debesay, van Niekerk, Grmay and Reguigui. I would take the latter two, they're the youngest and most talented.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on October 09, 2014, 15:57
Ulli Jansch form German Eurosport did a long interview with Jens Zemke during the coverage on Sunday and as far as I can remember he said that 8 riders from the current team will not get a contract for next year.

I had to prepare lunch and wanted to watch it again later on to write down all the details, but for whatever reason the Tour l'Eurometropole is the only race from this week that's not available on Eurosport Player
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 09, 2014, 16:34
Aha, interesting.
Gerdemann, Konovalovas and Pardilla are known already. By the way, I forgot Reimer & Stauff in that list up there, they haven't been announced (one way or the other) either.

The two Germans plus those six Africans, five of which won't get a new contract ... Hmm, maybe Dougall isn't counted among the 14 as he only signed during the season?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on October 09, 2014, 16:51
they mentioned Stauff, Zemke was not 100% sure (because he is not involved in the contract negotiations) but he said he thought that Stauff will stay with the team
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 09, 2014, 18:34
they mentioned Stauff, Zemke was not 100% sure (because he is not involved in the contract negotiations) but he said he thought that Stauff will stay with the team
Yeah, he's from Köln, and training partner of Ciolek, so he will stay.
That "not 100% sure" ... :shh ;)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 13, 2014, 09:37
Meintjes, Thomson & Dougall look ahead to the 2015 season (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=4847)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 13, 2014, 14:25
https://twitter.com/ZemkeJens/status/521218029896859648
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzu9BF9CQAAR2_B.jpg:large)
Confirms what I already guessed: No new contract for Martin Wesemann (or Konovalovas, but that was known already).
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on October 13, 2014, 17:09
Still think they should have re-signed Konovalovas seems like a useful rider to have with all those sprinters they have gathered.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 13, 2014, 17:51
Still think they should have re-signed Konovalovas seems like a useful rider to have with all those sprinters they have gathered.
Yep, I definitely agree. He's a great workhorse to have around, and has valuable WT and GT experience as well.
Of course, there are always two sides that need to agree - but I can't imagine him preferring #pomme a Conti squad over #mtn an ambitious ProConti team with WT prospects.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 14, 2014, 13:48
Mein-kies blog (http://www.louismeintjes.com/), tells shortly about his end to the season.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on October 29, 2014, 07:53
With Thomas Campana and Manel Lacambra, two of the 2014 DS have now jumped ship to #bigla Bigla Cycling Team, leaving only Jens Zemke, Kevin Campbell and Michel Cornelisse from the 2014 line-up of sports directors.

Brian Smith is interim General Manager at the moment - there's a good chance he'll either become full-time GM or turn out as DS. Apart from that, they might have found one more. Who that is? No clue.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 05, 2014, 11:46
The question I asked above has been answered:
Sans Vega and Heynderickx join Team MTN Qhubeka (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=sanz-vega-and-heynderickx-join-team-mtn-qhubeka)

Two new DSs: *ch Alex Sans Vega (former #cervelo DS) and *be Jean-Pierre Heynderickx (pro in the 80s/90s, former DS for #topsport & #lotto). Doug Ryder reverts to Team Principal, Brian Smith continues as General Manager.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 15, 2014, 06:54
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/11/how-mtn-qhubeka-is-aiming-to-turn-around-careers-of-goss-boasson-hagen-and-farrar/

a lot of what Smith says makes sense re the pressure and letting riders not be the guy

I do think Goss, EBH and Tyler are those types, but Goss is or can be lazy, I do think EBH might just explode and be that guy again next year
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 17, 2014, 16:27
The 2015 squad for the WCC Africa feeder team has been announced:
2015 MTN-Qhubeka WCCA Feeder Team announcement (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?news=2015-mtn-qhubeka-wcca-feeder-team-announcement)

Quote
JP van Zyl – Director World Cycling Centre Satellite Africa
We will have a two tier approach next year: The Feeder Team will have the young talents from South Africa and Africa ages 18-21 and a more mature group of basically 4-5 riders that we have earmarked to possibly join the professional peloton or ride as stagiaire’s with a European Professional squad. We have concentrated on taking young talented riders, to ensure they are nurtured and trained following the best guidelines. We will expose them to high level racing and training but track their recovery, ensuring they follow good recovery protocols with nutrition being the key factor.

We want to give these young talented riders the tools to be self-sufficient and be able to adapt their training and mental approach as if they were already in the professional environment. We will also spend a period of 60-90 days in Europe and expose the Feeder Team as much as possible, to high level amateur and UCI category 2 races in 2015.

3 Eritreans, 7 South Africans:
*er Tesfom Okubamariam
*er Metkel Eyob
*er Meron Teshome
*za Oliver Stapleton-Cotton
*za Jayde Julius
*za Gustav Basson
*za Graeme Ockhuis
*za Clint Hendricks
*za Nicholas Dlamini
*za Stefan De Bod

Okubamariam, Eyob, Teshome, Hendricks and possibly Stapleton-Cotton & Julius would be the 'mature' riders, I guess.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 19, 2014, 18:35
https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/535138101262557184
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 28, 2014, 07:31
Smith making some good sense IMHO



http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/11/news/farrar-play-important-part-mtns-2015-ambitions_354380
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 29, 2014, 07:23
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/boasson-hagen-i-dont-think-many-teams-will-be-as-fast-as-us

It really looks like Highroad, it is not just one big GC rider so all different riders can win. I hope that we can have something similar to that.”

and the Key for EBH having success i think, look waht happened in that TDF which everyone called shocking in 2011 ( I think ) 2 stage wins
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on November 29, 2014, 16:53
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/boasson-hagen-i-dont-think-many-teams-will-be-as-fast-as-us

Quote
The majority of the signings have been sprinters, with Matt Goss, Tyler Farrar, Theo Bos and Reinardt Janse van Rensberg – who has previously raced for the team - coming into the fold. None of the sprinters have ever raced together but Boasson Hagen is confident that they can make it work.
It will be very interesting to see if they can make this team gel. I hope they blow the doors off some other teams in the sprints. Would be quite fun and exciting to watch.  :cool

Lots of firepower on paper. Curious to see if it will translate into success.
Perhaps they're hoping to confuse other lead out trains with their new team kits?  :D
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on November 29, 2014, 17:06
How are there not pics of the new kit in this thread yet?  :S

(http://cdn4.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net/2014/11/28/1/unnamed_150.jpg)

(http://cdn4.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net/2014/11/27/1/unnamed_150.jpg)


Btw, the official team website is horrid. Couldn't find one pic of the new kit on there, and the gallery link highlights the team launch...in 2013.  :S

http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?gallery_categories=all (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?gallery_categories=all)

Am I in the wrong thread?
Is this a different team?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on November 29, 2014, 18:09
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/farrar-invigorated-by-mtn-qhubeka-move (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/farrar-invigorated-by-mtn-qhubeka-move)

Quote
Invigoration is a prevalent theme when Tyler Farrar talks about his switch to the MTN-Qhubeka team.

“They did a really good job putting together our roster and not just looking at numbers and resumes but looking at personalities,” he explained. “I’ve never been in a team with this much classics and sprinting depth. I think we’re going to be able to play off each other. We each bring our own strengths and weaknesses to the table. It’s going to take a few races to work out the kinks and I’m sure that we’ll get it wrong a few times but once we get it sorted out I think that we will be a force to be reckoned with.”

Quote
Farrar knows that the early part of the year is the most important to ensure a great calendar for the remainder of the season. “The goal is to come out swinging from day one and to show what we’re capable of. If that happens then the invitations will flow.”
That sounds like fun.  :)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on December 04, 2014, 07:38
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cummings-i-feel-better-than-ever
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on January 15, 2015, 13:15
https://twitter.com/Kenny_Pryde/status/555707418882375680
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Ruudz0r on January 22, 2015, 18:42
I got to interview Merhawi Kudus, a rider with a very bright future in my opinion. I think he could be one of the surprises of the season, you can find the interview here: http://www.cyclingupdates.com/interview-merhawi-kudus/ . He aint a big talker though, good thing he will talk with his legs this season!
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on January 29, 2015, 06:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnAHkqfqzrc
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on February 04, 2015, 14:11
Boasson Hagen: The goal is to win more and more, including Roubaix (http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/02/boasson-hagen-the-goal-is-to-win-more-and-more-including-roubaix/)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: pastronef on February 12, 2015, 11:19
I always liked Thor  :cool

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hushovd-discouraged-boasson-hagen-from-signing-with-tinkoff-saxo
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: L'arri on February 12, 2015, 11:38
I always liked Thor  :cool

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hushovd-discouraged-boasson-hagen-from-signing-with-tinkoff-saxo

Belongs in the Dark Side, that story...  :P
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 16, 2015, 01:28
I hope this isn't a sign of things to come.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/crash-catches-farrar-out-in-almeria-finale (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/crash-catches-farrar-out-in-almeria-finale)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 01, 2015, 01:16
Results for Omloop Het Nieuwsblad 2015  :-x

27   Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) MTN - Qhubeka
50   Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka
51   Tyler Farrar (USA) MTN - Qhubeka
85   Matt Brammeier (Irl) MTN - Qhubeka       
86   Jaco Venter (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka
103   Gerald Ciolek (Ger) MTN - Qhubeka
DNF   Theo Bos (Ned) MTN - Qhubeka       
DNF   Jay Robert Thomson (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka

Quote
J.P. Heynderickx – Sports Director

We were in the race today and that was what asked of our guys in our meeting this morning. We needed to be in the break in the beginning and then present again in the final. In the break we had Matt, he was very strong there and made a very good move. Then in the final we were there with 4 riders but they all had flats at a bad moment. We were car 2 in the race and even still we had to take a wheel from the neutral service, which means we were at the very front of the race and is just bad luck. Tyler, Theo and Edvald all punctured at this bad moment. Jay was in very good shape and a key rider in our team but he crashed in the middle of the race. The good thing is we were there in the front and that is a good sign for the upcoming races. I believe in our team for these next races.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on March 01, 2015, 08:05
I struggle to believe this tbh, especially that Bos lost the race due to a punctute. What does "in front" mean anyway in this case? In the peloton with 80k to go!?

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Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on March 01, 2015, 10:18
Also all their 4 riders punctured, what is the chances of that happening?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 01, 2015, 10:48
Also all their 4 riders punctured, what is the chances of that happening?
Quote
Schwalbe for the 2015 season, Schwalbe will be the tires provider for MTN-Qhubeka p/b Samsung.

They have a product for all terrains which will serve MTN-Qhubeka well from the cobblestone roads in the classics to the smooth tarred bunch sprints in the Grand Tours.
:-x
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on March 01, 2015, 14:01
:-x

Hopefully Schwalpe doesn't produce condoms then, they should check their rubber quality.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on March 01, 2015, 15:54
it can happen of course -- but I will surely check my videos later on to see if this really happened when the selection wa smade :P

Sbaragli came 8th today, good result for him, who was probably supposed to be something like 5th leadout man, considering that EBH, Ciolek, Farrar and Bos all were around today
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on March 01, 2015, 22:38
it can happen of course -- but I will surely check my videos later on to see if this really happened when the selection was made :P

I did. Farrar was at the very back of the peloton when the selection was made, he might indeed have had a mechanical - EBH was sitting comfortably at the front though, just not strong enough to follow the initial attack (nor the counter attack from Vanmarcke et al, despite being in a even better position at that point of the race)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 02, 2015, 00:28
Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2015

8 - Kristian Sbaragli (Ita) MTN - Qhubeka
13 - Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) MTN - Qhubeka
65 - Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg (RSA) MTN - Qhubeka
66 - Tyler Farrar (USA) MTN - Qhubeka
68 - Gerald Ciolek (Ger) MTN - Qhubeka
70 - Youcef Reguigui (Alg) MTN - Qhubeka
DNF   Matt Brammeier (Irl) MTN - Qhubeka
DNF   Theo Bos (Ned) MTN - Qhubeka


A rather strained endorsement:
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J.P. Heynderickx – Sport Director

It was a good result for Kristian today but overall I expected a bit more from the team. We missed the break at a key point but after that we did a good job in the chase. Kristian was 8th which is okay but I think we could’ve done better.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 02, 2015, 00:59
GP Lugano 2015

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Jens Zemke – Head of Performance

We won the GPM competition today with Daniel Teklehaimanot. He was in the lead for just about the complete race after he was in the early break along with Nic Dougall and 15 or 16 others. He attacked near the end as well but was brought back. In the last lap 9 riders escaped with Natnael part of the move but they also got brought back around 20 riders. Unfortunately we had no riders in that group so no placing today but the boys rode pretty well and Daniel was on the podium so that is okay.

I'm assuming GPM=KOM?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 02, 2015, 11:32
I'm assuming GPM=KOM?
Sí=Yes. ;)

The classics team's opening weekend was underwhelming. Five new signings, four of which are classics sprinters, and the best result in KBK is Sbaragli's 8th place. In the Omloop they were nowhere when the race got real.

It's the early season, yes, and you can always have a mechanical at a bad moment; but if it continues like this ... #mtn is not a retirement home, they do want to compete with the others.
I've been thinking for a while that some of the Euro riders might have chosen the team exactly for its development project - get paid well to mentor the Africans and without pressure for results. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't go for results!
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 02, 2015, 21:55
I've been thinking for a while that some of the Euro riders might have chosen the team exactly for its development project - get paid well to mentor the Africans and without pressure for results. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't go for results!
I have to believe that, at their core, these guys are competitors first. Money aside, I would imagine that they very much want to win. But they had better show themselves, and soon. On paper, there's a lot of firepower there. Will it translate in the real world? That is the big question, and one that has me most intrigued.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on March 02, 2015, 23:40
On paper, there's a lot of firepower there.

I would say that on paper there is a lot of slightly wet fireworks there. Goss, Farrah etc. riders that seems to have been declining for seasons. I suppose the real question is, will it ignite?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 02, 2015, 23:46
I suppose the real question is, will it ignite?

Or...
Is the whole greater, or lesser, than the sum of the parts?  :slow
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on March 03, 2015, 09:09
Or...
Is the whole greater, or lesser, than the sum of the parts?  :slow


In some regards I think it is like trying to build a car, but instead of getting different parts you just get 10 carborators, disregarding engine, doors and wheels entirely :D
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 15, 2015, 18:59
This poor, lonely thread!   :(

I had this distant dream of following each race this team participated in (at least for the spring), and posting daily updates here. My timezone/daily schedule just didn't allow for that. :fp

Now granted, Langkawi wouldn't exactly qualify as a "place near me," but...but...but...

THEY FINALLY DID IT! :win

Two parts to this story.
Tour de Langkawi: Reguigui beats Henao on Fraser's Hill (http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/le-tour-de-langkawi-2015-2-hc/stage-7/results)

(http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2015/03/14/1/sptdw403_670.jpg)

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Youcef Reguigui (MTN-Qhubeka) claimed victory atop Fraser’s Hill on the penultimate stage of the Tour de Langkawi. The victory secured Reguigui the lead in the general classification, which he should hold come the race’s conclusion in Kuala Lumpur tomorrow.

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“This is my first victory this year and it is a victory for Messa, my one-month-old baby,” said a delighted Reguigui. “I was happy because I had good legs today and in the last 25 kilometres I was on the front with Jacques [Van Rensburg] and Natnael [Berhane]. Normally I work for Natnael but before 5km to go he told me he didn’t have the legs, so I made the decision to stay at the front and when I saw 1km I made the plan for the sprint.

Quote
The climb was incredibly hard for me to hold on but I managed to stay in the front group. Then 2 kilometers to go Jacques said to me, “you can win this!” I felt a bit stronger and managed to hold on a bit longer. When I saw the 500 meter banner I knew I could win. I started my sprint at 300 and I’m so happy to be able to win the stage for my team who have ridden so well this week. I hope this win will also motivate the people that believe in #BicyclesChangeLives.

(http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/BIN_1057.jpg)

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Victory at last.  :s

Youcef Reguigui wins Tour de Langkawi overall (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=7670)

(http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2015/03/15/1/sptdw4029_670.jpg)

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“I was happy to keep the jersey today after a very hard race. I am so happy to get this victory, it is my first professional GC win and I am really just so, so happy right now.


Rollercoaster week for MTN-Qhubeka at Tour de Langkawi (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rollercoaster-week-for-mtn-qhubeka-at-tour-de-langkawi)

(http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2015/03/14/1/sptdw402_670.jpg)

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The victory is a welcome boost as the team sets its sights on its big goal in July, when it will become the first African team to take part in the Tour de France.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on March 15, 2015, 19:10
it's also looking good in Tirreno Adriatico, Cummings is currently 9th in gc, only 24 seconds away from the podium, and probably the best timetrialist of all those riders still in touch.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 16, 2015, 17:32
 :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7u1wpAqNOk
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 16, 2015, 18:57
:o
Glad I'm just a hack and not a swanny! :lol
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Drummer Boy on March 29, 2015, 00:38
I hadn't realized that Eurosport's Brian Smith (Scotsman, former Olympian, and British National Road Race Champion) was the GM at #mtn

According to press reports, he was designated that role on an interim basis for the 2014 season, but he is still listed as such on the MTN-Qhubeka site (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=7514).

I also just noticed that his Wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Smith_(cyclist)) was recently edited, and I have a sneaking suspicion as to why.  ;)

I was also unaware of his previous involvement with the Cervélo Test Team, but that's mostly due to my own ignorance and not much else.

(http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Staff_BrianSmith-1024x640.jpg)

(http://www.dewielersite.net/db2/wielersite/beeldbank2011/1319524245_4616.jpg)

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Smith is the founder of the Braveheart Cycling Fund (http://www.braveheartfund.co.uk/About.asp?ShowPage=258), which was launched in 2003 to support young Scottish racing cyclists.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/23/article-0-00494D5E00000258-74_468x475.jpg)



I've always enjoyed his race commentary.  :)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on March 29, 2015, 10:34
According to press reports, he was designated that role on an interim basis for the 2014 season, but he is still listed as such on the MTN-Qhubeka site (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=7514).

He got the job on a permanent basis in the off-season. ;)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on April 21, 2015, 21:52
Oh, for flip's sake. :fp

Remember the cock-up by the British embassy in Rome last year that almost stopped a number of Colombians from starting the Giro?

The *uk authorities are at it again:
https://twitter.com/BriSmithy/status/590608290389827585
https://twitter.com/BriSmithy/status/590612155541643265
The #mtn roster for the Tour de Yorkshire includes Merhawi Kudus and Daniel Teklehaimanot.
Two of the most talented African cyclists, riding for a renowned international team due to debut in the Tour de France this year. Both have very good chances of making the Tour team.

And if that weren't enough, they're on pro contracts, earning at least 25,300 € (Kudus) and 30,250 € (Daniel T), respectively, per year. But no, they're from *er Eritrea - they must be benefit scroungers.

Fetch me a torch and a pitchfork. :angry
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Joelsim on April 21, 2015, 23:03
It'd be even worse if Ukip had their way.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on June 03, 2015, 10:54
http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=8941

mtn name their tour long list

Edvald Boasson Hagen [Norway – profile]
Natnael Berhane [Eritrea – profile]
Steve Cummings [Great Britain – profile]
Tyler Farrar [USA – profile]
Jacques Janse van Rensburg [South Africa – profile]
Reinart Janse van Rensburg [South Africa – profile]
Merhawi Kudus [Eritrea – profile]
Louis Meintjes [South Africa – profile]
Serge Pauwels [Belgium – profile]
Youcef Reguigui [Algeria – profile]
Daniel Teklehaimanot [Eritrea – profile]
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: 42x16ss on June 19, 2015, 06:31
http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=8941

mtn name their tour long list

Edvald Boasson Hagen [Norway – profile]
Natnael Berhane [Eritrea – profile]
Steve Cummings [Great Britain – profile]
Tyler Farrar [USA – profile]
Jacques Janse van Rensburg [South Africa – profile]
Reinart Janse van Rensburg [South Africa – profile]
Merhawi Kudus [Eritrea – profile]
Louis Meintjes [South Africa – profile]
Serge Pauwels [Belgium – profile]
Youcef Reguigui [Algeria – profile]
Daniel Teklehaimanot [Eritrea – profile]
On current form and experience I see Cummings and Jacques Janse van Rensburg missing out. That team should show well IMO. No real GC rider there but all other bases covered.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on June 19, 2015, 08:37
On current form and experience I see Cummings and Jacques Janse van Rensburg missing out. That team should show well IMO. No real GC rider there but all other bases covered.

EBH, Mentjes, teklehaminot, berhane and farrar and RJVR seem very very likely to go.

Pauwels maybe for an experienced guy, i thought cummings showed something at Dauphine, but maybe not enough
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Capt_Cavman on June 19, 2015, 09:23
EBH, Mentjes, teklehaminot, berhane and farrar and RJVR seem very very likely to go.

Pauwels maybe for an experienced guy, i thought cummings showed something at Dauphine, but maybe not enough
I expect the vast experience of Cummings will outweigh marginal differences in form in the minds of the team management.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Leadbelly on June 19, 2015, 09:28
I think Cummings has been one of MTN's top 4 or 5 performers this year. As long as he's over his knee problems and unless they think the Vuelta (with it's TT) suits him better, then he probably should be in the final nine for the Tour.

From those listed I'd send Kudus to the Vuelta, and the last one to miss out would be a bit of a lottery - Berhane done anything this year?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: neppe on June 19, 2015, 11:35
During ToNorway or TdFjords, MTN told the Norw. press EBH and JJvR ("the South-African RR champion") were certain for the TdF team.

EBH has said he wants RJvR to be part of the team.


Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: 42x16ss on June 21, 2015, 06:17
Reinhardt was a very likely inclusion IMO. He's been consistent since joining. I wasn't sure about Jacques but his form might be better than I realised. I said Cummings because I wasn't sure if he is over the knee injury. Agree that he can contribute as road captain and working for Boasson Hagen though.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: neppe on June 21, 2015, 14:27
Got the feeling it had more to do with him being SA champion than his form. He might have gotten early confirmation that he would be rinding TdF and been able to top his form for TdF. Just guessing. We'll see.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DJW on June 22, 2015, 00:10
Brian Smith said on Eurosport a couple of weeks ago that they had given Cummings the target of top 6 in Utrecht and to possibly take yellow on the Mur de Huy.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: 42x16ss on June 22, 2015, 00:59
Ambitious! I like it. I would have thought they would have a better chance with EBH though. He's done well in TDF TT's in the past.

It's going to be difficult to break into the top 5 or so with the likes of Dumoulin, Martin, Cancellara, Boom, Froome, Sagan, Spilak, Matthews etc.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on June 26, 2015, 23:02
Ambitious! I like it. I would have thought they would have a better chance with EBH though. He's done well in TDF TT's in the past.

Agree, he also is a possibility in terms of scraping bonus seconds in the sprints. Honestly I think EBH green jersey seems a good objective, Sagan might not be allowed to leave AC in the mountains to grab points, at least not if AC is leading GC. EBH seems a good pick to pull a Hushovd/Sagan and get points on more stages than the rest and win it that way. That would be my main goal. EBH for green, Meintjes to try on the hilly stages, Try to get in as many breaks as possible and test Kudus for GC. Still think Berhane should have went as well.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on July 09, 2015, 18:42
https://twitter.com/TeamMTNQhubeka/status/619197336187731969


Also:
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/07/mtn-qhubeka-talking-to-dimension-data-about-title-sponsorship-worldtour-a-target-for-2016/ (http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/07/mtn-qhubeka-talking-to-dimension-data-about-title-sponsorship-worldtour-a-target-for-2016/)

Dimension Data could become #mtn title sponsor for 2016, with a step up to the WorldTour possible in that case.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on July 09, 2015, 18:48
and someone won in Austria
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on July 09, 2015, 18:52
and someone won in Austria
That too! :win
https://twitter.com/TeamMTNQhubeka/status/619130251315159040
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on August 01, 2015, 21:38
https://twitter.com/RobbieHunter/status/627556993641914368
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 12, 2015, 16:59
Tomorrow the Tour of Britain ends in London.

I've long suspected that big news regarding the future of the team (in terms of both sponsors and riders) would be announced on the back of that particular race ... let's see if anything does happen.

Press conference on Monday? If anything regarding that is announced, we'll know that the rumours are true.
Title: MTN Qhubeka, the last African team?
Post by: Ram on September 15, 2015, 04:41
Well... pro tour/continental, anyway.

The early mission was African team in the Tour de France and a 50% black Africans .

The mission was diluted. Fair enough, would even say good. Then, well 5 Africans in the Tour…. About as African as the English cricket team was.

I’ve just seen that Meintjes has left the team to join Lampre.

Their new sponsor is likely to be Dimension data, a company far more global than MTN.

Each as a standalone may not mean too much, although it certainly can’t help to weaken one’s very identity, but added with the possible start of talent drain… where will they be in 5 years’ time? A standout African team or just a bog standard trade team?
Title: Re: MTN Qhubeka, the last African team?
Post by: DB-Coop on September 15, 2015, 08:41
I don't know ho important their identity is, sure it helped them get invites to GT's but when they have already been there does the narrative still sell. In the end what I think will happen is that it will be more of a normal trade team, but with a core of African riders, much like Lampre in that regard, they might take in some one from elsewhere, but still a strong national/continental core of riders.

I think MTN are going WT and as I see it the real problem is that the talent is not there, breaking it down I would say there are three categories.

African riders that can lead a team at WT level:
Chris Froome
Louis Meintjes

African riders with WT level, ie. they should be on a team even if no African team was there:
Daryl Impey
Daniel Teklehaimanot
Merhawi Kudus
Natnael Berhane
Jacques Janse Van Rendsburg
Reinhardt Janse Van Rendsburg
Tsgabu Grmay
Youcef Reguigui

African riders good enough to support a WT team, but better riders are readily available from somewhere else:
- The back end of the team minus a few youngsters who might just be developing pieces, also a few riders on Skydive Dubai fit this bill as well plus maybe more

In the end where I think they failed is in not landing Meintjes, they thought they had agreed on something, but why had they not signed him up, it seems so obvious, I mean there is not really anybody where you would from the team perspective say, lets hold it open because if we sign him we can't afford rider X. I mean if Froome had expressed interest and they knew they would not be able to have both sure hold out with Louis, but who was they waiting for? If it was someone great like Nibali, Valverde sure, but for who Cavendish? It makes no sense, the team was stupid by not handling the contract sooner, dumb move on their part. Even if Meintjes didn't want a deal because he thought his value might increase, throw some money extra in the deal offered, against having the rights to match offers for the rest of the year, something.

Title: Re: MTN Qhubeka, the last African team?
Post by: L'arri on September 15, 2015, 09:01
The approach seems now to be to promote Qhubeka which, having lost its novelty, the team can only now do loudly enough if it hires winners, moreso than promoting African riders.

That is a significant split but an inevitable one, I think: success must follow success. The rest is a matter of PR management and I think we are already seeing the shift in that narrative.
Title: Re: MTN Qhubeka, the last African team?
Post by: just some guy on September 15, 2015, 11:19
The approach seems now to be to promote Qhubeka which, having lost its novelty, the team can only now do loudly enough if it hires winners, moreso than promoting African riders.

That is a significant split but an inevitable one, I think: success must follow success. The rest is a matter of PR management and I think we are already seeing the shift in that narrative.

This

but too be honest I am ok with it as long as Qhubeka is promoted and young African riders have a pathway even if diluted.

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Title: Re: MTN Qhubeka, the last African team?
Post by: LukasCPH on September 15, 2015, 20:16
where will they be in 5 years’ time? A standout African team or just a bog standard trade team?
They'll always be a team with a large number of African riders. But the team has become more and more of a standard trade team, only with its 'base nations' being all of Africa instead of Spain/Italy/France/Belgium etc.


The approach seems now to be to promote Qhubeka which, having lost its novelty, the team can only now do loudly enough if it hires winners, moreso than promoting African riders.
In time, it'd be great if they could promote African winners. It's a long-term project, but I do hope that e.g. Merhawi Kudus or Reinardt Janse van Rensburg get more opportunities to lead the team in the future.


That is a significant split but an inevitable one, I think: success must follow success. The rest is a matter of PR management and I think we are already seeing the shift in that narrative.
Yes, that shift has happened already. Riding for 5000 bikes etc. - nothing wrong with that. Niyonshuti, Reguigui etc. hopefully get paid attention as to their development nonetheless; and the story of Songezo Jim is still a great one.


I am ok with it as long as Qhubeka is promoted and young African riders have a pathway even if diluted.
Yes and no. Yes in the sense that it's still an exciting team with a special message, and a pathway for African riders into the top echelons of the sport. No in the sense that, as more non-Africans make their way into the team, there'll be less room for African talents.

What African cycling needs at this point is not only a few riders making it to the top in the way of Meintjes, Teklehaimanot, Kudus etc. - it also (actually, even more) needs many riders to get European racing experience to later act as multiplicators in their local cycling scenes in Rwanda, Ethiopia, Algeria, Cameroon, Tanzania etc. Therefore I'd like to see e.g. the WCC Africa doing a European program with their riders, but also African (national) teams getting invited to European races (maybe with a bit of support to their travel costs if they're short of funds?[1]), so that riders, in larger numbers than now, get exposed to European racing.
 1. Moroccon or Algerian cycling surely has no financial problems[1], but many Sub-Saharan countries aren't exactly swimming in cash
 1. they do, instead, have other problems ...
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on September 24, 2015, 14:22
reports going around that Etihad the airline is the new sponsor.

not entirely at odds with the African theme, but not exactly on script either
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 24, 2015, 17:17
Interestingly, the team (and other African national teams) have so far flown Turkish Airlines who are also a sponsor of the Tour of Turkey.

But if Etihad come along and say "we'll sponsor Cav and his lot, and then some" they'll be happy to change their flight plans. ;)


What it would mean to the African theme ... There are big *za companies (MTN was already one of the largest, with Dimension Data even bigger), but why should e.g. De Beers, Gold Fields, Sasol or Pick 'n Pay enter a cycling sponsorship?

For the mining companies it simply doesn't make sense (although one could ask why Orica are doing it). And if Africa's biggest telecommunications provider announces an end to its team sponsorship just after having the team ride the Tour de France (after 9 years of sponsoring) I don't see other companies clambering to take over.

Dimension Data would make huge sense as they're now involved with ASO - but could it be that the 'smoke' about DD going into cycling was simply from the 'fire' of talks and arrangements with ASO (with Doug Ryder maybe having put them together in the start) than a 'fire' of team sponsorship talks?


In the end, as a cycling team you can't afford to be very picky: If a huge company wants to sponsor your team and bring in the funds needed to sign one of cycling's superstars, you're not going to say "no, thanks; you're from the UAE, not Africa".
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on September 25, 2015, 12:11
http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=10659

team dimension data it is.
(probably presented by Etihad or similar)

I guess that if it's failed for MTN, why would others want to sponsor it, but there are companies with business or brands that can cement their position as being reliable in a european type way while still having an african heart and soul.
Investec or ABSA/Barclays Africa, jump out as obvious candidates

Also it's possible that MTN see it as being a successful sponsorship but see diminishing returns going forward (next year cost more and almost inevitably get less coverage than this year).
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 25, 2015, 16:45
Also it's possible that MTN see it as being a successful sponsorship but see diminishing returns going forward (next year cost more and almost inevitably get less coverage than this year).
I think it's more this than a 'failed' sponsorship. They didn't think it worthwhile anymore from a cost-benefit point of view.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 30, 2015, 17:04
Core team renews as Nathan Haas and Omar Fraile will join Africa’s Team for 2016 (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=10640)
10 riders are listed as having re-signed; 8 Tour starters, Sbaragli, Berhane ... and then it says 'among others'.

Who are these 'others' that haven't been announced elsewhere, but aren't specifically named as staying on this team either?
*de Gerald Ciolek
*za Nick Dougall
*au Matt Goss
*za Songezo Jim
*rw Adrien Niyonshuti
*dz Youcef Reguigui
*de Andreas Stauff
*za Jay Thomson
*za Johann van Zyl
*za Jaco Venter

They already trimmed 6 Africans off the roster before this season - I don't think they'll cut even deeper into the African part of the team. So Reguigui, Niyonshuti and the 5 Saffers should be safe.
The same cannot be said for Ciolek, Stauff and Goss. You'd expect the rider who won the team's first major victory to be explicitly named if he'd been re-signed ... so I think his (and his lieutenant Stauff's) departure is more likely than not.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on September 30, 2015, 17:32
wonder what happen with Ciolek personality difference ?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: cj2002 on September 30, 2015, 17:37
Core team renews as Nathan Haas and Omar Fraile will join Africa’s Team for 2016 (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=10640)
10 riders are listed as having re-signed; 8 Tour starters, Sbaragli, Berhane ... and then it says 'among others'.

They already trimmed 6 Africans off the roster before this season - I don't think they'll cut even deeper into the African part of the team. So Reguigui, Niyonshuti and the 5 Saffers should be safe.
The same cannot be said for Ciolek, Stauff and Goss. You'd expect the rider who won the team's first major victory to be explicitly named if he'd been re-signed ... so I think his (and his lieutenant Stauff's) departure is more likely than not.

I tend to agree with you there. I also wonder whether the HighRoad connection might offer Matt Goss something of a stay of execution...
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Jamsque on September 30, 2015, 19:48
If this team is serious about moving to WT then they need to shed the African riders that are not able to ride at a WT level. Being a development team is all fine and good but if you are going to sign Cav and ride three grand tours a year you need a deep roster of riders with a certain level of experience and talent.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: lancasterke on October 02, 2015, 10:18
inevitable really, but it's sad to see the african element be sidelined.

losing Meintjes is the (unsurprising) nut of the problem.

being a WT team requires that 15 guys might be racing top races on the same day say (pais Vasco and the classics) and it's hard to make big sponsors happy and do this if a significant portion of your squad is inexperienced and young (and amongst the weakest on the startline)

Teklahaiminot is strong, Berhane and Kudos are v talented but much past that the squad seem to be mainly average domestiques and pack fodder. van zyl won a stage at austria against 2nd tier names and reguigi won langkawi, but the guys on display at the top races tended to be the same names

no offence inteded to the team, who've had a great season, but the signing of top level european pros is neccessary for the step up and correspondingly likely to make the team a less interesting proposition to follow.

I was delighted with Cummings Tour stage and Ciolek MSR win, despite them both being top Euro pros, but it felt like they were coming from the plucky underdog. much harder to feel that a team that could start the tour say with Cav Eisel Renshaw Boassan Hagen, farrar, cummings tekla, berhane, janse van rensburg as being the same.


assume ciolek is out. don't think he had a win all season, wasn't in the mix that much either. and the experienced euro classics/sprint guy role has been filled
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 02, 2015, 10:19
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSzFQM1XIAA1voX.png)
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 18, 2015, 14:32
https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/666982158750322688
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on November 18, 2015, 20:54
https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/667082367383805953
hmmm
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 18, 2015, 21:06
https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/667082367383805953
hmmm
So the rumours are true:
Team Dimension Data U23 to be set up in Europe, but the planning is on hold until the WT license is certain.

*za Jayde Julius should be one of those on the team, with *dz Adil Barbari another obvious name.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on November 25, 2015, 13:03
Africa’s Team goes World Tour with Dimension Data (http://www.teammtnqhubeka.com/?p=10997)

WorldTour license confirmed, but almost more importantly, the Conti team as well. :cool
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on January 26, 2016, 09:45
from the Tropicale thread...

It's a shame that, for the second year in a row, Africa's top cycling team #mtn MTN-Qhubeka/ #didata Dimension Data has chosen to pass over this race. They're not even sending the newly-set-up Continental team. :(

They seem to have been very late in setting up the devo team and there doesn't seem to be much/any info around about it. Other than Eyob and Gebrezgabiher do we even know who will be riding for them? Girdlestone we can guess as he tweeted about heading to SA the other day, but it all seems a bit ramshackle.

the riders of the "DIMENSION DATA FOR QHUBEKA" continental team are now confirmed on the website of the UCI:
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on January 26, 2016, 12:12
the riders of the "DIMENSION DATA FOR QHUBEKA" continental team are now confirmed on the website of the UCI:
And again the UCI jumps the gun ... :fp
As a rule, you always - always! - let the people who pay for the thing announce it first. At least give them some warning so that #didata (in this case) can prepare a press release.

Very poor communication.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: DB-Coop on January 27, 2016, 01:43
And again the UCI jumps the gun ... :fp

Ah the UCI, where every night is amateur night. :lol
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Leadbelly on February 04, 2016, 09:04
http://www.velo-club.net/route/continentales-interviews/les-interviews/109760-champions-de-demain-itw-keagan-girdlestone

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On your site, you have indicated a desire to change nationality, why this choice?
 
My request to obtain New Zealand citizenship is still in the race, but it takes quite some time. I made many friends in this country, and I feel now close to New Zealand. That said, I still have good relations in South Africa, and most of my family is still there. In my heart I will always be South African.

It's not new news, but I wonder if DDD know about this.  :-x
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on June 19, 2016, 11:00
https://twitter.com/Velorooms/status/744433561638428672
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on June 19, 2016, 11:58
https://twitter.com/Velorooms/status/744433561638428672

Has he actually been selected yet?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on June 19, 2016, 12:14
Has he actually been selected yet?
  no not yet but has been track focused that is for sure 
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on June 19, 2016, 12:30
  no not yet but has been track focused that is for sure

Yeah definitely the track focus but I wonder if it will all be for nothing on Cav's part. If I were the GB selectors I think I'd take a fifth genuine team pursuiter who could double up in the Omnium for the track endurance squad.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: just some guy on June 22, 2016, 10:31
https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/745547771755663361
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Leadbelly on November 06, 2016, 22:06
Got wonder if Dimension Data is happy with the Cav signing so far , clear Olympic focus, sure brought some media and money but ??

:-x  :D

Anyway, what are your thoughts Fus (or anyone for that matter) about how DDD got on this year?

Girdlestone's crash and injuries was a bit of a downer as they might have expected their best results from him. Not of a lot of UCI race days for most of the riders and neither Eyob or Gebreigzabhier got races days with DD as stagiaires - maybe both are work permit related, but going to be difficile to progress if you can't race.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Leadbelly on November 02, 2017, 20:07
http://www.ridemedia.com.au/features/into-the-final-10-from-a-global-zwift-sift/

Dimension Data Continental are joining Canyon SRAM this year in offering a potential place in their team via the Zwift Academy.

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There are numerous talented riders who have the potential to compete in WorldTour level races but simply have not had the pathway to do so.

The Zwift Academy has been created with those riders in mind, those who – for some reason or another – may have slipped through the cracks, or are perhaps new to the sport and bursting with talent.

Most of the youngsters do have some proper races in their legs. Harrison Bailey, who wrote the article, rode Gila and the Cascade Classic this year for example (however he was DNF in both).
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Leadbelly on November 21, 2017, 11:04
https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/932902814698926081

Ollie Jones gets the golden ticket.

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This isn’t a marketing gimmick

Well it is, but that and him potentially being a decent rider aren't mutually exclusive. He has ridden a few UCI races, so it's not as if they took the skates off him and put him on a bike for the first time a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Leadbelly on September 07, 2018, 20:56
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/dimension-data-reduce-number-african-riders-2019-pressure-retain-worldtour-status-393360

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Team Dimension Data – the squad which set out to have an African rider win the Tour de France by 2020 – will feature fewer riders from the continent in 2019 in a bid to maintain their WorldTour status.

“The investments we’re making now are about being sustainable. Ultimately we want to mobilise the African continent, with the success of this team. We want to create an African hero. We can’t do that if we don’t exist,” says manager Doug Ryder.

Currently 13 of 27 riders come from the African continent – and we will reduce that by a couple.

Riders with contracts that are up:

Kudus
Berhane
Debesay
Van Zyl
Dougall

Take your pick.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: M Gee on September 07, 2018, 23:08
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/dimension-data-reduce-number-african-riders-2019-pressure-retain-worldtour-status-393360

Riders with contracts that are up:

Kudus
Berhane
Debesay
Van Zyl
Dougall

Take your pick.

What with Cav's lack of wins, I'd have to wonder how well they are faring. There may be mitigating factors - like if DiData signed on because of Cav - which I know nothing about - but as far as wins go, Cav has just not been there. With good reason - he got in some pretty severe accidents - but still.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: LukasCPH on September 08, 2018, 05:19
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/dimension-data-reduce-number-african-riders-2019-pressure-retain-worldtour-status-393360

Riders with contracts that are up:

Kudus
Berhane
Debesay
Van Zyl
Dougall

Take your pick.
Let go:
*za Johan van Zyl - raced for the #cajarural amateur team in 2011-2012, will there be a spot for him there?
*er Mekseb Debesay - back to #bikeaid, or a tour on the Asian circuit?
*za Nic Dougall - back to *za domestic racing?

On the fence about *er Natnael Berhane. He definitely has the talent, but hasn't fulfilled it much in recent years. Then again, he may have been used as a domestique more than before. If they're ruthless and have to cut costs, he may get the sack - though it would be a bad decision.

*er Merhawi Kudus is the test case for how 'African' the team will stay. He's one of their best points scorers! Better than both Cavendish and Meintjes this year, and I suspect he's on a far lower salary.
And indeed, on CQranking he is listed on the 2019 roster. They usually know their stuff, so I'm pretty sure he'll stay.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: t-72 on February 07, 2019, 21:13
BMC merged with CCC but now #didata rides with BMC....expert commentary on Norwegian Eurosport today was quite clear that it was generally known in the peloton last year #didata was riding with inferior gear. Their previous bike supplier has a comepletely new set of top-of-the-line models for this year, so it does not necessarily carry over to whichever team is sponsored by that supplier now. However, if we are to believe what is said, we should be looking for better performances from #didata as a team this year as they are no longer held back by inferior equipment.

Edvald Boasson Hagen's surprising ITT win in Valenciana fits with this picture, he has had aerodynamic challenges for a long time on the ITT bike and he hardly won any races outside of Norway on his old TT bike. These problems appears to be a thing of the past now.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on February 07, 2019, 21:31
it's likely that BMC is one of the better bikes, yeah. Not sure if MTN/Dimension would have stayed with Cervelo for four years if the bikes really were that bad though. The S5 was introduced in 2016 or so.

On the other hand: it was probably about time for an update indeed then.

Edit: or are you referring to the ITT bikes only?
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: t-72 on February 07, 2019, 21:48
Edit: or are you referring to the ITT bikes only?

As I understood it, the BMC bikes are considered an improvement in all disciplines, but obviously the results to back up the claim with - so far - is only with the TT bikes. Some competitors (Kristoff!)  say this year's Edvald seems to be in better shape than last year's. Considering that EBH had a gall bladder problem and some surgery for that last year in the start of the season, which of course had an impact on his training and preparations, that is probably also true. In other words, it may not be all about the bike, and not all about how good things are looking this year. It might also be that last year wasn't very good with more or less all the captains enjoying too much time in the hospital.

(PS: can we change the thread title to include Dimension Data, at least in brackets behind the old title? I don't think they use Qhubeka in their name any more?) 
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on February 07, 2019, 22:02
BMC merged with CCC but now #didata rides with BMC....expert commentary on Norwegian Eurosport today was quite clear that it was generally known in the peloton last year #didata was riding with inferior gear. Their previous bike supplier has a comepletely new set of top-of-the-line models for this year, so it does not necessarily carry over to whichever team is sponsored by that supplier now. However, if we are to believe what is said, we should be looking for better performances from #didata as a team this year as they are no longer held back by inferior equipment.

Edvald Boasson Hagen's surprising ITT win in Valenciana fits with this picture, he has had aerodynamic challenges for a long time on the ITT bike and he hardly won any races outside of Norway on his old TT bike. These problems appears to be a thing of the past now.

It's interesting the equipment merry go round sometimes. DD were unhappy with Cervelo from what some have said and Cav made some comments about it aswell last year. So Cervelo are now at Sunweb who were rumoured to have been unhappy with Giant last year who have now ended up supplying CCC. Perhaps the winners in the change of manufacturer will be DD out of all of this
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on February 07, 2019, 22:03
yeah, it's also still early in the season, and guys like Dumoulin, Dennis or Roglic weren't in the race. But it looks like an improvement (probably on all levels) indeed.

The coming races will probably give a better idea what it's all about. It'll be also interesting to see how guys like Dumoulin or Kelderman will cope with the Cervelo bike in the time trials then.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: t-72 on February 07, 2019, 22:13
The coming races will probably give a better idea what it's all about. It'll be also interesting to see how guys like Dumoulin or Kelderman will cope with the Cervelo bike in the time trials then.

That's a good test indeed, but it will be a comparison between the old Giant bike and the new improved Cervelo. Cervelo have this mantra about building bikes for all cyclists and not (only) for the WT top performers, but if they pay to sponsor Tom Dumoulin, wouldn't it make sense to do everything possible to make sure that he remains one of the worlds best in the ITT? 

I wouldn't just tell him "go see if you can find one that fits you, over in that shed there!"  :)

 
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
Post by: search on February 07, 2019, 22:25
I haven't found anything about a new Cervelo time trial bike, and I'd guess they wouldn't want to miss the opportunity to do a bit of promotion for that, now having Dumoulin in their ranks. But who knows... maybe that's still to come.
Title: Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you, sponsored by Dimension Data
Post by: LukasCPH on February 08, 2019, 09:02
Their previous bike supplier has a comepletely new set of top-of-the-line models for this year, so it does not necessarily carry over to whichever team is sponsored by that supplier now.
That would be #sunweb who revealed all-new Cervélos at their Berlin launch. I was there. ;)

(PS: can we change the thread title to include Dimension Data, at least in brackets behind the old title? I don't think they use Qhubeka in their name any more?) 
Done.