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Professional Cycling => Men's Road Cycling => Topic started by: Leadbelly on September 19, 2016, 12:07

Title: Number of Team Race Days
Post by: Leadbelly on September 19, 2016, 12:07
I was doing a bit of early CQ research for 2017, as you do, and I came across this page on PCS.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/statistics.php?stat_id=111

Must be a fairly recent addition as I remember looking for something like that a year or two ago for use in the UCI Reform thread. Couldn't find it then and had to use this (http://www.velofacts.com/2014/11/10/number-of-races-of-the-cycling-teams-2014/) instead.

It's not surprising that AG2R and FDJ lead the way with their commitments to both WT and SSFRs. That is mirrored in PCT with Cofidis, Fortuneo and Direct Energie leading the pack there.

Bit surprised that Cannondale are so high. I have it in my head that they under race their guys, but maybe they are just better at spreading the race days around the whole team.

Giant's position must be slightly false as they had to DNS a few races earlier on in the season after the multi-rider moto incident.

Looking a bit further down (and I mean further down) you'll see Funvic on 52 race days. That's the same number as Tusnad! It's a bit of a head scratcher to be honest. They have non-UCI races in Brazil they must be racing, but why make the leap to PCT if you're not going to make a fist of it. Money/travel must play a part in it.

Anything else of interest? or what about comparisons to the 2014 stats in the other link?
Title: Re: Number of Team Race Days
Post by: Joelsim on September 19, 2016, 12:14
Cannondale certainly under-win their guys.

Title: Re: Number of Team Race Days
Post by: LukasCPH on September 19, 2016, 13:12
Looking a bit further down (and I mean further down) you'll see Funvic on 52 race days. That's the same number as Tusnad! It's a bit of a head scratcher to be honest. They have non-UCI races in Brazil they must be racing, but why make the leap to PCT if you're not going to make a fist of it. Money/travel must play a part in it.
There are hardly any races in Brazil, with UCI status or without.
Why they went for a PCT license ... absolutely no idea. It got them into a couple of races (Europe, Langkawi, Tropicale) that probably wouldn't have invited a Brazilian Conti team - but their calendar is a far cry from any other ProConti team's.

It's possible they were hoping for more race invites to be forthcoming, or that money dried up at some point - remember that Carrefour withdrew as sponsor early in the year. But looking at it from the outside, it has been a rather disappointing year for them.
Title: Re: Number of Team Race Days
Post by: Leadbelly on October 24, 2021, 10:51
https://twitter.com/raulbanqueri/status/1452192704566333445

Some interesting stats from Raul. This is for total number of races, not total race days.

 #arkea #iwg and #cofidis all really love those one-day races. Arkea as a PCT team will also be riding some 1.2 events, so their total will actually be even higher.

At the other end of the spectrum, the difference is striking. All them riders must be sat twiddling their thumbs.
Title: Re: Number of Team Race Days
Post by: LukasCPH on October 26, 2021, 09:48
Some interesting stats from Raul. This is for total number of races, not total race days.
Nice stats, but not so very meaningful in my opinion.
After all, a GT (21 stages, 8 riders) has as many race days as 24 one-day races (with 7 riders).

It is interesting to see the differences between WorldTour teams, though: Movistar used to be a team that did the WT and things in Spain and not much else - but here we see that five WT teams race even less!
Title: Re: Number of Team Race Days
Post by: Leadbelly on October 26, 2021, 14:41
Nice stats, but not so very meaningful in my opinion.
After all, a GT (21 stages, 8 riders) has as many race days as 24 one-day races (with 7 riders).

That is true for a comparison between Arkea and the WT teams down at the bottom (the French team were the ones twiddling thumbs in May and August), but Cofidis and Intermarche have done all three GTs this year in addition to the plethora of one-day races.

Intermarche 63 non-WT 1 day races
Cofidis 55
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I-SUN 31
Qhubeka 29
Lotto 26
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Bike Exchange 10
Jumbo 10
Bahrain 10

The top two are obviously chasing UCI points. So are the middle three, but maybe Lotto and Qhubeka need to target these one day races a bit more in 2022.