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Title: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on January 03, 2017, 08:25
https://twitter.com/BayCyclingClass/status/816151925074763776

Gibson, also from JLT-Condor, was second in the GC too.
 
:-x

Stage wins went to Bibby, Hepburn and Ewan.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on February 02, 2017, 20:41
Les Challenges de la Marche Verte

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3pYBeCWQAEa7aI.jpg)

Three one-day races over the next few days.

• GP Sakia El Hamr
• GP Oued Eddahab
• GP Al Massira

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3pYC_sWAAANX0e.jpg)

Galdoune to pick up a win or two.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on February 03, 2017, 18:18
http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&tp=n&cod=97748

Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on February 05, 2017, 17:12
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C36oMqAWcAAe2_x.jpg)

Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: LukasCPH on February 05, 2017, 18:00
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C36oMqAWcAAe2_x.jpg)
An Italian-born Russian winning a race in Morocco for a Turkish team ... :D
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on February 06, 2017, 18:20
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2017, 14:19
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on February 11, 2017, 20:14


https://twitter.com/NiceCyclingTeam/status/830427149509259264

9 degrees sounds quite warm to be honest. Including windchill it must have been minus figures when I cycled into work this morning.

:=B
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on February 13, 2017, 20:53
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on February 26, 2017, 15:49
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on March 10, 2017, 16:40
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on March 26, 2017, 07:26
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on March 27, 2017, 08:40
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on March 27, 2017, 10:32
That's some start to the season for JLT.

2016

3 wins
~38 top tens (including GCs)

2017 (not even at the end of March)

6 wins
~43 top 10s (including GCs)
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on March 28, 2017, 10:37
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on March 28, 2017, 18:53
They should have more races that finish at 5:25am. That or after 20:00

Bit of a strange finale anyway. MTF finish with some descent at the end?

https://youtu.be/Tk0K4fTdtaU

3h02m50s for the finish. It didn't look the safest last turn in the world for a high speed sprint and the inevitable crash happened. Pujol going down hard with Mirsamad (?) to blame.

https://twitter.com/oscarpujol/status/846717069995388928

No injuries he says, but because of the so called MTF finish he lost a lot of time and splits were given amongst the other riders.



Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on March 29, 2017, 07:14
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on March 30, 2017, 08:39


Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on April 05, 2017, 17:39


huge crash 4 km to go

Kittel wins
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 06, 2017, 10:40
Circuit des Ardennes International 7th - 9th April

(http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/1/49/24/77/20170304/ob_b1ee9a_affiche-circuit-des-ardennes-2017.jpg)

Stage 1  »  ACY-ROMANCE / ACY-ROMANCE (184.5km)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/30kzk07.png)

Stage 2  »  ROCHEHAUT / ROCHEHAUT (181.1km)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2h3pm2v.png)

Stage 3  »  NOUVION-SUR-MEUSE / FLOING (76.1km)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/osqufa.png)

Stage 4  »  CHARLEVILLE-MEZIERES / CHARLEVILLE-MEZIERES (103km)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2rg2rlz.png)


List of competing teams:

WB VERANCLASSIC AQUALITY-PROTECT

ADRIA MOBIL
AGO AQUASERVICE
ARMEE DE TERRE
AXEON HAGENS BERMAN
HP BTP AUBER 93
LEOPARD PRO CYCLING
ROTH AKROS
ROUBAIX LILLE METROPOLE
SEG RACING ACADEMY
TEAM FELBERMAYR SIMPLON WELS
TEAM JOKER ICOPAL
TEAM VELOCONCEPT
TEAM WIGGINS
WIBATECH 7R FUJI

CC ETUPES
CC NOGENT SUR OISE
CC VILLENEUVE-SAINT-GERMAIN
VC ROUEN 76

EQUIPE NATIONALE U23 ALLEMAGNE

CAJA RURAL SEGUROS RGA
ISRAËL CYCLING ACADEMY DEVELOPMENT
LOTTO SOUDAL
TEAM COLPACK

Start list:

(http://i65.tinypic.com/sy7drd.png)(http://i68.tinypic.com/j7t55k.png)

Lots of up and coming riders plus a few older heads. Direct Velo will have a ticker.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 07, 2017, 12:49
Break: Fabien CANAL (Armée de Terre), Domenic WEINSTEIN (Allemagne), Jon BOZIC (Adria Mobil) et Quentin SIMON (CC Etupes)

Peloton : à 3'10''

WB Veranclassic unsurprisingly doing much of the work in the peloton.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 07, 2017, 13:47
Quick question.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/10hn6tk.png)

I though WT riders couldn't ride .2 races even as part of a National squad. However after a quick perusal of the UCI regulations I couldn't see anything. Have they changed the rule?
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: search on April 07, 2017, 14:33
Quick question.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/10hn6tk.png)

I though WT riders couldn't ride .2 races even as part of a National squad. However after a quick perusal of the UCI regulations I couldn't see anything. Have they changed the rule?

not recently, no. The 2014 version of the "National calendars" rules say "[...] in national events. Only national teams may include riders from a UCI ProTeam or a UCI professional continental team.", with only the "Pro Tour" replaced by "World Tour" in the current rules: "[...] in national events. Only national teams may include riders from a UCI WorldTeam or a UCI professional continental team".

Before 2014... no idea.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 07, 2017, 16:08


Won from an attack in the last couple of km.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: LukasCPH on April 07, 2017, 20:16
Quick question.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/10hn6tk.png)

I though WT riders couldn't ride .2 races even as part of a National squad. However after a quick perusal of the UCI regulations I couldn't see anything. Have they changed the rule?
National teams can pick more or less whoever they like, also for .2 races.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 07, 2017, 20:29
Won from an attack in the last couple of km.

...but only with some help.

https://twitter.com/roliveira57/status/850388752778375172

Can't be entirely the moto's fault though Rui, you should have checked the road book too!

https://twitter.com/AuAvigliano/status/850359300291796992

Small gap, but all given the same time.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 07, 2017, 20:31
National teams can pick more or less whoever they like, also for .2 races.

Doesn't seem very fair or good for competition. Next time I'm UCI president that'll be on my list of things to change.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: search on April 07, 2017, 20:46
...but only with some help.

https://twitter.com/roliveira57/status/850388752778375172

Can't be entirely the moto's fault though Rui, you should have checked the road book too!

on the official website it says the first 3/4th of the field was sent in the wrong direction though, so don't be too harsh with young Oliveira ;)
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: LukasCPH on April 07, 2017, 20:50
Doesn't seem very fair or good for competition. Next time I'm UCI president that'll be on my list of things to change.
Well ... no.
But it's not as if a French national team rocked up to the Circuit des Ardennes with Démare, Alaphilippe and Gallopin. ;)

This is the Tour du Maroc startlist, yes?
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: t-72 on April 07, 2017, 21:45
...but only with some help.

https://twitter.com/roliveira57/status/850388752778375172

Can't be entirely the moto's fault though Rui, you should have checked the road book too!

https://twitter.com/AuAvigliano/status/850359300291796992

Small gap, but all given the same time.

Right...I need to post one more skiing related video then, because the skills lacking in the peloton (finding your way through a critical sequence of turns) is one of the core aspects of alpine skiing.

Learn to visualize and memorize the course from the best :) In this video, Kjetil Jansrud tells you how to race the Kvitfjell downhill. (at about 1 min) As the world cup winner in Super G several years he is probably the best in the world to visualize and memorize how to race a course. In the Super G there are no training runs, but you get to take a look at the course before you start.
https://youtu.be/vYTb-hejiI4

Not only can he recall the sequence, he gets the timing too (2 secs of his own finish time, ~2mins). This is a skill is transferable to cycling and especially sprinters would do well to practice some alpine skiing.  I don't know if #joker Hoelgaard has (I do know that the third Hoelgaard brother, Stian,  is a skier at national level, but he does cross country.

Chapeu #joker!

(note somewhere there is a better video focusing only on this but I cannot find it on the web)
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 08, 2017, 18:33
Anyway I bet everybody had a close inspection of the road book today (including the moto drivers!).

I guess one extra thing in Rui's defence is that unless you're really at the absolute front of the peloton it's going to nigh on impossible (and probably exceedingly dangerous) to go right when the rest of the riders want to go left.

Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 08, 2017, 21:31

https://twitter.com/AuAvigliano/status/850359300291796992

Small gap, but all given the same time.

That must be about 5 seconds between 1st and 2nd: how on earth did they give that as same time
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: t-72 on April 08, 2017, 21:36
That's likely a compensation for everybody but #joker Hoelgaard not memorizing the course...
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: search on April 08, 2017, 23:18
yep, jury decision, everyone in the peloton got the same time as it wasn't (mainly) the riders' fault
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 11, 2017, 08:21
Doesn't seem very fair or good for competition.

After four stages he's now 6m04 ahead of the second placed rider.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 11, 2017, 08:37




55km solo from Zoidl to win the stage.



Narvaez had one worrying moment on the final stage when he and Costa got caught up in a crash, but the team played it cool even though they were a fair bit behind the peloton.

Should be fun to see how the Ecuadorian gets on at the Baby Giro later in the year.
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on April 19, 2017, 07:33


Young Lucas Hype train is picking up spreed
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 23, 2017, 20:55
https://twitter.com/CiCLEClassic/status/856157484360376320

https://twitter.com/Scottie_Brown/status/856158419811807232

https://twitter.com/dean0downing/status/856168873195962369

Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: search on April 23, 2017, 21:27
well...  :D

not exactly a first class move by Fleeman, but maybe also a bit naive by young Hayden to believe that anyone wouldn't contest the sprint for the win in a one day race
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: Leadbelly on April 23, 2017, 21:37
Yes more than a bit naive.

Vino is probably thinking "Why the hell did I pay those (alleged) thousands to Kolobnev and Uran, when I could have just told them this?!"
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: LukasCPH on April 24, 2017, 00:41
Apparently McCormick asked "are you going to sprint?" (which is a silly question, of course he will sprint!), and Fleeman heard "can you sprint?":
http://www.granfondoguide.com/Contents/Index/2656/one-finger-salute-from-one-pro-cycling (http://www.granfondoguide.com/Contents/Index/2656/one-finger-salute-from-one-pro-cycling)
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: t-72 on April 28, 2017, 11:45
GP Himmerland Rundt (Danish 1.2 race) is actually livestreamed on Norwegian TV2 "sumo" internet service. Did not know it featured long gravel sections! Bunch splitting quite early, racing is hard :cool

(http://i.imgur.com/zS8u0Lu.png)
#fixit Ken-Levi Eikeland and some 4 others in the break!
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on April 29, 2017, 06:46


Race started with a TTT which *au won by 25 sec with my man Lucas get on the hype train now Hamilton reported as crossing the line 1st in the TTT, but race info is slow to come in
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on April 29, 2017, 06:47
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Post by: just some guy on April 29, 2017, 19:21
Title: Re: Smaller Race Results and Discussion 2017
Post by: just some guy on April 29, 2017, 19:21