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Professional Cycling => Road Races => Topic started by: search on January 27, 2017, 16:05

Title: The Italian Spring (Giro dell'Appennino)
Post by: search on January 27, 2017, 16:05
As part of the UCI Europe Tour & Coppa Italia, there are a number of Italian (yeah, Lugano is in Switzerland, Lukas, I know ;)) races to come over the coming months, so I guess it makes sense to bundle them together in one thread again:

DATE NAME
05.02.      1.1      G.P. Costa degli Etruschi
12.02.      1.HC      Trofeo Laigueglia
26.02.      1.HC      Gran Premio Città di Lugano
05.03.      1.1      GP Industria & Artigianato
23.03. - 26.03.      2.1      Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali
09.04.      1.1      Giro dell'Appennino
17.04. - 21.04.      2.HC      Tour of the Alps
02.06.      1.1      Nuovo Giro della Campania
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Costa degli Etruschi)
Post by: search on January 27, 2017, 16:08
the GP Etruschi was presented last week, and I read it will be "molto spettacolare" :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve1W1j0Z7gw

more details will be added later on I guess
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Costa degli Etruschi)
Post by: LukasCPH on January 27, 2017, 16:18
more details will be added later on I guess
For instance, unimportant details such as which teams will race ...? :lol
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Costa degli Etruschi)
Post by: search on January 27, 2017, 16:22
For instance, unimportant details such as which teams will race ...? :lol

#nippo Marco Canola said that he wants to win, so I guess Nippo will be around ;)

The only thing the organizers have published so far is this:

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PRESENTATO IL GRAN PREMIO COSTA DEGLI ETRUSCHI

It 'was the Teatro Roma of Castagneto Carducci to christen this afternoon, the twenty-second edition of the Gran Premio Costa degli Etruschi, classical early-season that will run from San Vincenzo and Donoratico arrival in the next 5 February.

The presentation of the race organized by Gruppo Sportivo Emilia with the collaboration of the municipalities of Castagneto Carducci and San Vincenzo and ASD Etruscan Coast was attended, among others, the multiple winner of the Tuscan race, Alessandro Petacchi, the Castagneto Carducci and administrators San Vincenzo with Sandra mayors and Scarpellini Alessandro Bandini, in addition to the presidents of the GS Emilia and ASD Etruscan Coast, Adriano Friends and Nicholas Mele and to the Head of Planning of the Cooperative Credit Bank of Castagneto Carducci, Stefano Belmonte and the representatives of 'You can Association, Riccardo Cavallini and Simone Spina.

As tradition dictates the race will see all the preparations, including the presentation of the team to sign the sheet, on the spectacular terrace overlooking the port of San Vincenzo.

After the start unofficially the caravan will move to the so-called zero kilometer was before the resort Riva degli Etruschi from where the race will officially start.

As always the initial stages of the race will take the caravan to face a flat stretch skirting some of the main centers of the coast and not only among them Fiorentino, Rio Torto, Bandinello and Venturina.

It is a kind of prelude to those which will be the first roughness of the day. Shortly after, in fact the riders will tackle the first climb, one that will lead them to Campiglia at the end of a 4 km asperity with averages of 5.6% gradient. After the descent it will reach San Vincenzo and then Donoratico for a first pass the finish line, at km 58.5, where the race will enter a very spectacular part characterized by three circuits.

The first, that of St. guido and Bolgheri, 24.3 km on a short stretch that athletes will face three times, then the second of 10.3 kilometers completely flat to be done twice which will be the prelude to the grand finale.
The last 40 kilometers it will develop along the two rounds with Segalari tower climb: 2km and 900 meters with an average gradient of 9% and maximum of 11.

The race, opening round of the Italian calendar, will also be valid for the award of the Grand Prix of the Cooperative Credit Bank of Castagneto Carducci.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Costa degli Etruschi)
Post by: LukasCPH on January 27, 2017, 16:53
The only thing the organizers have published so far is this:
And that doesn't even mention the total length of the race. :S
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Etruschi)
Post by: Leadbelly on January 31, 2017, 21:31
(http://i66.tinypic.com/25jk3gg.png)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Etruschi)
Post by: search on February 02, 2017, 18:12
GP Etruschi participating teams + key riders:
the definitive compositions of teams at the start may vary though, earlier on today the organizers were still waiting for the final confirmation from one team

Highlights will be broadcasted Sunday at 17:00 cet - and not only on Rai Sport, but also Bike Channel (UK!), cycling.tv and online on  www.pmgsport.it & www.repubblica.it
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Etruschi)
Post by: search on February 04, 2017, 16:58
final startlist:

~pdf Gp Costa degli Etruschi - Elenco Partenti (http://gsemilia.it/images/pdf/etruschi2017-partenti.pdf)

so we have the 18 teams listed above + #damico d'Amico Utensilnord as a late addition.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Etruschi)
Post by: LukasCPH on February 04, 2017, 17:42
#damico d'Amico Utensilnord as a late addition.
Ah, so they have made it through the UCI paperwork in time. :cool
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Etruschi)
Post by: search on February 05, 2017, 13:35
GP Etruschi today is the first race of the new "Ciclismo Cup", a series of 15 races:
not quite sure what it's about, or if there is some kind of overall classification (:win), but all those "Gold" races will be broadcasted live and PMG (www.pmgsport.it) has secured the rights for all the races, will distribute them worldwide (l’Equipe in Francia, TV2 in Danimarca, Bike Channel in UK, Eleven Sport Channel in Belgio, Polonia, Singapore, Taiwan e Ucraina ed Econet in Africa, oltre che Eurovisione per gli highlights delle gare live) and stream them on their website. So let's hope it's a step forward :)

Post Merge: February 05, 2017, 13:39
it's organized by the "Lega del Ciclismo Professionistico" and replaces the Coppa Italia, so there should be some kind of overall classification. I haven't found any details yet though.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Etruschi)
Post by: search on February 05, 2017, 21:27
(http://www.gsemilia.it/images/stories/ulissidonoratico-donoratico17.jpg) (http://www.gsemilia.it/images/stories/donoratico2017-podio.jpg)



full highlights coverage is available on PMG's facebook (https://www.facebook.com/PMGliveSport/videos/1220099634712495/) - I haven't had time to watch it yet though
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Etruschi)
Post by: Mellow Velo on February 05, 2017, 22:21
 Quite good highlights and not the usual outcome.
Wet, wet wet.

Big changeover day at Rai, too.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 06, 2017, 09:23
(https://trofeolaigueglia.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/pg-1.jpg)
Trofeo Laigueglia

Sunday / February 12th

Next Sunday already, there's the next race of the Ciclismo Cup, held in Liguria this time, and with more of a history than the GP Etruschi: the Trofeo Laigueglia. First taking place in 1964, this year will mark the 54th edition - and for the 3rd time now ranked as 1.HC on the UCI Europe Tour

The parcours is more or less as the same as in recent years, when we have seen all kinds of outcomes. In 2016 #southeast Andrea Fedi won solo after joining an an early escape group, the year before #lampre Cimolai won the race in a ~20 men sprint, and in 2014 it was super selective with #meridiana Patrik Sinkewitz coming 2nd to #lampre Serpa in his last ever race.

(https://trofeolaigueglia.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/planimetria-laigueglia-2017.png) (https://trofeolaigueglia.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/altimetria-laigueglia-2017.png)

~pdf Roadbook (http://www.sfogliami.it/sfogliabili/144495/54%C2%B0%20TROFEO%20LAIGUEGLIA%20-%202017.pdf)

@raffilpt has mapped the finishing circuit:



The participating teams are
Highlights will be broadcasted on the usual channels later in the afternoon I guess
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: just some guy on February 06, 2017, 09:38
Short Highlights/ News

Gran Premio Costa degli Etruschi 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7PVNKBK5Q8
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 06, 2017, 09:48
Short Highlights/ News

Gran Premio Costa degli Etruschi 2017

...and full highlights are now also available in HD (and unrestricted) on PMG's website:

http://www.pmgsport.it/video/g-p-costa-degli-etruschi/

:cool

If they keep doing that for all races, it's a massive improvement over Rai
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: Mellow Velo on February 06, 2017, 10:53
...and full highlights are now also available in HD (and unrestricted) on PMG's website:

http://www.pmgsport.it/video/g-p-costa-degli-etruschi/

:cool

If they keep doing that for all races, it's a massive improvement over Rai

Though I'd post the link elsewhere.
Great quality video, but no sound for me. :S
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 06, 2017, 10:55
Great quality video, but no sound for me. :S

mmh, no problems for me. Try this one maybe:

http://player.pulsemediatv.com/VideoManager/?vid=88f25949-fd7d-4f45-ae9d-4e6393763db4
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: Mellow Velo on February 06, 2017, 18:46
mmh, no problems for me. Try this one maybe:

http://player.pulsemediatv.com/VideoManager/?vid=88f25949-fd7d-4f45-ae9d-4e6393763db4

 Turned out my speakers had packed in, so the link was fine after all.
Some basic new speakers I had lying around and I now have sound.
Thanks for the help! ;)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2017, 09:29
https://twitter.com/Velorooms/status/829622621679583232
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 09, 2017, 10:51
the rules for the Ciclismo Cup have now been published by the Lega del Ciclismo Professionistico

Individual Ranking:

(only Italian riders or riders from Italian teams can score points, so they move up a place if there are any foreigners on points scoring places)

One day races + overall classifications of stage races:

Posizione Classe    2.HC Classe 2.1 Classe 1.HC Classe 1.1
1      100      70      60      40
2      80      56      50      32
3      70      49      44      28
4      60      42      38      24
5      51      36      32      21
6      45      31      28      18
7      39      27      24      15
8      32      22      20      13
9      28      20      18      11
10      24      17      15      10
11      20      14      8      5
12      18      13      8      5
13      16      11      8      5
14      14      10      8      5
15      12      8      8      5
16      10      7      2      1
17      8      6      2      1
18      6      4      2      1
19      4      3      1      1
20      2      2      1      1

(the Italian Road Championships count as 2.HC race, and for the time trial there are awarded 20-15-10 points for the Top 3)

Stages:

Posizione Tappa HC tappa 2.1
1      10      7
2      8      6
3      5      5
4      4      4
5      3      3
6      2      2
7      1      1


Team Ranking:

The team ranking is a bit more complicated, unfortunately, and impossible for me to understand. I have no idea how UAE ended up with 57 points for example - and that's after one race only. So I will just leave it to Lukas... :D

https://legaciclismoprof.org/coppa-italia-campionato-italiano-a-squadre-2/ciclismo-cup-2017-regolamento/
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2017, 10:56
Leave it to Lukas ....  :lol
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: LukasCPH on February 09, 2017, 12:17
Team Ranking:

The team ranking is a bit more complicated, unfortunately, and impossible for me to understand. I have no idea how UAE ended up with 57 points for example - and that's after one race only. So I will just leave it to Lukas... :D

https://legaciclismoprof.org/coppa-italia-campionato-italiano-a-squadre-2/ciclismo-cup-2017-regolamento/
:S :slow :(
I'm not understanding it either. Let's go through it step by step.

Here's the relevant part of the rules, and what I translate it to (with a little help from my GT friends):
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Classifica a squadre
- Per determinare la classifica a squadre sono attribuiti dei punti ai 3 primi corridori di ogni squadra secondo il criterio seguente: 1 punto al primo, 2 al secondo etc. Le squadre saranno classificate secondo l’ordine crescente dei punti ottenuti. I punteggi saranno assegnati sulla base della classifica assoluta. In caso di parità di punteggio in una corsa le squadre saranno classificate in funzione del piazzamento ottenuto dal loro miglior corridore.
Team classification
- To determine the team classification, points are given to the first three riders of each team according to the following criteria: 1 point for the winner, 2 for the runner-up etc. The teams are classified according to the rising order of points obtained. The points are assigned on the base of the final classification. In case of equality of points in one race the teams are classified by the placing obtained by their best rider.


So far, so good. Ulissi gets 1 point, Belletti 2, Gavazzi 3, and so on.

Quote
- Saranno considerati per la classifica a squadre solo i Gruppi Sportivi con almeno tre corridori classificati.
For the team classification only those teams with at least three classified riders are considered.

Also logical.

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- In base alla classifica definita all’articolo 5.1 e 6, alla fine di ogni prova, saranno assegnati i punteggi previsti dalla tabella.
Based on the final ranking defined by articles 5.1 and 6, at the end of each race, points will be assigned according to the table.

Huh. Well, the table immediately follows, so I guess they mean that table.

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- Dopo ogni corsa le squadre con pari punteggio saranno classificate in funzione del maggior numero di primi posti, secondi posti, ecc… In caso di ulteriore parità, sarà considerato il piazzamento della squadra nell’ultima corsa disputata.
After each race, the teams with equal points will be classified in order of the greater number of first places, second places, etc. In case of a further equality, the placement of the team in the most recent race is considered.

Tie-breaker for equal points in the overall ranking, also logical.

So ...
First a ranking for the race is made of all teams with at least 3 classified riders. Let's do that, then. First, all riders get a 'score' according to their placing:
Spoiler (hover to show)

Then the scores of the first three riders of each team are added together, and the teams are sorted by who has the least points:
Spoiler (hover to show)

The Italian teams (only the pro teams!) are awarded points according to this classification:
Team Points
#androni 20
#delko 19
#wilier 18
#uad 17
#sangemini 16
#nippo 15
#gazprom 14
#meridiana 13
#damico 12
#vorarlberg 11
#bardiani 10
#felbermayr 9
#tirol 8
#gm 7
#0711 6
#minsk 5
#unieuro 4

Only listing the Italian pro teams gives us this:
Team Points
#androni 20
#wilier 18
#uad 17
#nippo 15
#bardiani 10

So where do the extra 40 points for #uad come from?

Enter article 6:
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- In aggiunta ai punti previsti dalla presente tabella saranno assegnati alla squadra del vincitore della corsa il doppio dei punti della squadra vincitrice della classifica a squadre sulla base di quanto previsto all’articolo 5, indipendentemente dal numero di corridori classificati. Saranno inoltre assegnati 25 (venticinque) punti per ogni vittoria di tappa nelle gare di classe HC e 12 (dodici) punti per le vittorie di tappa nelle gare di classe 1, indipendentemente dal numero di corridori classificati all’arrivo. Inoltre, nelle gare a tappe, 7 (sette) punti alla squadra vincitrice della classifica finale a squadre, 5 (cinque) punti alla squadra del corridore che si è aggiudicato la classifica a punti, 3 (tre) punti alla squadra del corridore che si è aggiudicato la classifica giovani e a quella del corridore che si è aggiudicato la classifica del Gran Premio della montagna.
- Alla squadra del corridore che si aggiudica il Campionato Italiano strada professionisti saranno assegnati 40 (quaranta) punti, alla squadra del corridore che si aggiudica la crono open 20 (venti) punti.
- Sono escluse da tutti i conteggi delle classifiche a squadre secondo quanto previsto dall’art. 5.1 e 6 le squadre nazionali di qualunque categoria, in quanto formazioni miste non registrate all’UCI.
- In addition to the points set out in this table the team of the winner of the race will receive double the points given to the team winning the team classification based on article 5, independent of the number of classified riders. There are also awarded 25 points for each stage win in a 2.HC stage race and 12 points for stage wins in 2.1 stage races, independent of the number of riders classified at the finish. Also, in stage races, 7 points are given to the team winning the final team ranking, 5 points to the team of the rider who wins the points classification and 3 points each to the squad of the best young rider and the squad of the winner of the mountain classification.
- To the team of the rider who wins the national road race championships are awarded 40 points, to the team of the riders winning the national ITT championships 20 points.
- Excluded from all calculations of team classifications according to articles 5 & 6 are national teams of any category, as mixed teams aren't registered with the UCI.


Aha! :party
As the team of the winner, #uad get an extra 40 points (double of the 20 given to the winner of the team classification) - which brings them to 57. :yuush

Also, congratulations to the Lega Professionisti for inventing rules that are more complicated than anything the UCI has ever devised. :pray
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: just some guy on February 09, 2017, 12:21
some sort of updated race profile

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4ONSvhWQAA19UG.jpg)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 09, 2017, 20:55
- To determine the team classification, points are given to the first three riders of each team according to the following criteria: 1 point for the winner, 2 for the runner-up etc. The teams are classified according to the rising order of points obtained. The points are assigned on the base of the final classification. In case of equality of points in one race the teams are classified by the placing obtained by their best rider.[/i]

So far, so good. Ulissi gets 1 point, Belletti 2, Gavazzi 3, and so on.

I stopped there, as it didn't quite make sense to me that the rider placed 1st gets less points than the one in 2nd, even if it's only in one of the different criterias. But well...
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 12, 2017, 09:16
the startlist for Laigueglia today:

~pdf Elenco Partenti (http://gsemilia.it/images/pdf/trofeo%20laigueglia%202017%20-%20partenti.pdf)

good names on there... #wilier Busato/Pozzato, #ag2r Geniez/Gautier, #astana Grivko/Moser/Breschel, #fdj Vichot, #uae Ulissi, #teamit Felline/Trentin, #gazprom Rovny, #delko Finetto, #direct Chavanel/Voeckler/Hivert, #bardiani Wackermann, #gm Parrinello... should be an entertaining race :cool

Highlights coverage starts at 17:00 cet
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: LukasCPH on February 12, 2017, 10:09
the startlist for Laigueglia today
*bg Unieuro Trevigiani-Hemus 1896
*al Amore e Vita-Selle SMP
*at Tirol Cycling Team

Three foreign Conti teams at a 1.HC race - UCI participation rules (2.1.005) aren't worth the paper they're written on. :fp
If they put in a qualification "races can apply for dispensation from these rules" at least - but there isn't any notion of that.

I know that all three teams have an Italian DS, and that two of them are de facto Italian; but in my opinion, happily disregarding 'unimportant' rules sends a signal that other rules (I'm looking at you, Dark Side) aren't more than 'recommendations' either.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: LukasCPH on February 12, 2017, 15:28
This week it's Felline who wins solo: ;)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 12, 2017, 15:48
(http://i.imgur.com/rJBJvx2.jpg)

Post Merge: February 12, 2017, 16:52
just watched the highlights... not a bad race it was. Finetto, Polanc, Geniez and others attacked with ~two laps to go but where brought back on the flat, so that Felline gave it a try on the early slopes of the final ascent, never to be seen again. #delko Combaud (where does he come from?) tried to follow, but wasn't quite able to and then caught by Gavazzi, Vichot and Gautier near the summit. After the descent Gavazzi found some domestiques who (together with Finetto, Hardy, Trentin and Mohoric) managed to join the group on the flattish run-in to the finish and tried to bring back Felline, but weren't able to.

Hardy (who apparently is with Fortuneo now :S) narrowly managed to beat Finetto then in the sprint for 2nd, after a perfect leadout from Gautier :P
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 12, 2017, 18:52
48 minutes of Highlights in HD are already available (unrestricted) on PMG Sport's website

http://www.pmgsport.it/video/ciclismo-cup-2017-trofeo-laigueglia/
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Trofeo Laigueglia)
Post by: search on February 20, 2017, 12:38
Lugano was moved to May, so the next race is this one:

GP Industria & Artigianato

March 5th

In 2016 the race was moved to the day after Strade Bianche, and thereby the quality of the field has improved massively. That edition was won by MSR favorite #cannondale Simon Clarke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75MC5yPAEXc

the profile seems to be the same as last year:

(http://www.larcianeseciclismo.com/images/2017-PLANIMETRIA.jpg) (http://www.larcianeseciclismo.com/images/2017-ALTIMETRIA.jpg) (http://www.larcianeseciclismo.com/images/2017-altimetria_ultimi_6km.jpg)

A full list of participating teams is not available yet, but it's likely to be very good. And there is going to be live coverage :cool
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Industria & Artigianato)
Post by: Joelsim on February 20, 2017, 13:40
My guess is Si Clarke again, just pipping Reichenbach on the line.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Industria & Artigianato)
Post by: search on February 27, 2017, 15:22
G.P. Industria & Artigianato / Participating Teams
http://www.larcianeseciclismo.com/maglie-iscritti.html

I don't see any live coverage listed on Eurosport or Rai at the moment. Maybe it'll be streamed online only
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Industria & Artigianato)
Post by: search on February 28, 2017, 10:20
I don't see any live coverage listed on Eurosport or Rai at the moment. Maybe it'll be streamed online only

scheduled to be live on l'Équipe21, 14:50cet  :cool

http://www.lequipe.fr/programme-tv/agenda-2017-03-05.html

so most likely PMGSports will stream it online (and usually unrestricted) on their Facebook page as well
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Industria & Artigianato)
Post by: search on March 03, 2017, 13:21
provisional start list:

(http://www.larcianeseciclismo.com/images/iscritti.jpg)

not bad at all, with Vanmarcke, Clarke, Uran, Nibali, Visconti, Navardauskas, Yates, Goncalves, Restrepo, Firsanov, Pippo, Gavazzi, Amador, Betancur, Barbero, Harry Dondo, Santaromita and so on. And also Nairo Quintana was confirmed thiy morning (although not on the list yet)

so most likely PMGSports will stream it online (and usually unrestricted) on their Facebook page as well

and this is confirmed now:

Quote
(gt) Follow the live broadcast of Sunday from 14:25 on the Facebook page of PMG Sports and www.pmgsport.it! PMG Worldwide Rightsholder & Producer

http://www.pmgsport.it/ciclismo-cup-2017-a-larciano-va-in-scena-il-terzo-atto/
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Industria & Artigianato)
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 03, 2017, 22:17
Now to be shown live on the Bike Channel from 2-30pm cet.

Post Merge: March 05, 2017, 08:22
Just adding the parcour.

(http://www.larcianeseciclismo.com/images/2017-ALTIMETRIA.jpg)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Industria & Artigianato)
Post by: LukasCPH on March 05, 2017, 00:05
I'll add that the weather is said to be not much (if at all) better than today.

And the seven guys I'll be rooting for:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6FU9BqXEAAE3Ev.jpg)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Industria & Artigianato)
Post by: search on March 05, 2017, 09:48
today's finishing circuit, mapped by @raffilpt

Title: Re: The Italian Spring (GP Industria & Artigianato)
Post by: search on March 05, 2017, 16:31
it came down to the expected selective race, won by Adam Yates ahead of some Colombian from Movistar only Joel ever heard about before. The commentator was screaming "Betancur, Betancur", but unfortunately it wasn't him



Full Coverage in HD is already available on PMG Sports website :cool

http://www.pmgsport.it/video/ciclismo-cup-2017-g-p-industria-artigianato/
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 15, 2017, 09:16
(http://www.gsemilia.it/images/stories/cb2014.jpg)
Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali

March 23rd to 26th

The Settimana Internazionale di Coppi e Bartali – Trofeo Banca Interprovinciale 2017 was presented the other day. It s a bike race run over four days in the Emilia-Romagna region of Italy. Between 1999 and 2000 it was called Memorial Cecchi Gori while it was also previously held as Giro di Sardegna and Giro di Sicilia. The race is named after Italian cyclists Gino Bartali and Fausto Coppi. Since 2005, it has been organised as a 2.1 event on the UCI Europe Tour. It is considered one of the most important stage races in Italy and is organized by Gruppo Sportivo Emilia.

As usual, the race will follow the same pattern as usual, starting with a double stage on day 1, giving the sprinters a chance before heading into the 4 men TTT. The two hilly stages on day 2 and 4 are likely to decide the gc, with another chance for the sprinters in between.

1a tappa - 1a semitappa: Gatteo - Gatteo 97.8 km

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1a tappa - 2a semitappa: Gatteo a mare - Gatteo (cronosquadre) 13.3 km

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2a tappa: Riccione - Sogliano sul Rubicone 130 km

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3a tappa: Crevalcore - Crevalcore 171.4 km

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4a tappa: Fiorano modenese - Sassuolo 160 km

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The race usually attracts a good range of decent riders, so that we had some strong guys on the honor roll over the past years:

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjwH4T9CQAAVMk9.jpg)
1st 2nd 3rd
2016      *ru   FIRSANOV    *it   FINETTO    *it   MOSCON
2015      *za   MEINTJES    *gb   SWIFT    *hr   KVASINA
2014      *gb   KENNAUGH    *it   CATALDO    *it   RABOTTINI
2013      *it   ULISSI    *it   CUNEGO    *co   RUBIANO
2012      *cz   BARTA    *pl   HUZARSKI    *it   ULISSI

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBN-NsMWcAAsMa5.jpg:large)
Rumors say, it's due to the nice podium gifts, that this year the list of participators features even three World Tour teams - two more than in the past two editions - and also some other interesting names
#sky Geraint Thomas is likely to be the favorite, but Androni brings all the firepower they have, and are likely to be super motivated - same as Firsanov, trying to defend his title for Gazprom. You can never be sure if the same applies for the French teams, but both Direct Energie and Fortuneo look very good on paper as well.

A very interesting addition are the small Colombian mountain goats of #strongman Bicicletas Strongman, coming to Europe for the first time (I think). And no, Pierrick Fedrigo has not signed for Team Wiggins.

There will be no live coverage, but highlights should be available in the evening, probably also unrestricted on PMG Sports website now.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: just some guy on March 22, 2017, 09:56
https://twitter.com/Cyclingnewsfeed/status/844487493122752512
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 22, 2017, 16:40
the full start list is now available. Sky brings only 6 men, putting Kenny in the 2 men team for the TTT, so that doesn't look like they are too confident in his GC ambitions :lol

there are some interesting riders in the race though, among them #gazprom Firsanov & Foliforov, #cannondale Dombrowski & Slagter, #teamit Finetto, #androni Bernal & Cattaneo, #bardiani Pirazzi & Ciccone, #fortuneo Bouet & Sepulveda and #baku Pozdnyakov.

edit: ah, well, and #sky Viviani for the sprints of course, facing #androni Malucelli and #wilier Mareczko

Highlights will be available on Rai Sport, Bike Channel and PMG Sport (online) at 18:00 cet each evening
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: Not My Circus on March 22, 2017, 19:10
In #2043 of races I know nothing about  is THIS... But I am INTRIGUED.
First of many Qs...Why the 4man TTT?

and  :I can't stop smiling at the thought of feisty Kenny being towed around by Lopez


Thanks for this, it will brighten up my day no end :cheer
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: LukasCPH on March 22, 2017, 20:09
First of many Qs...Why the 4man TTT?
Excellent question. All I can come up with is: Why not? :dizzy

It gives the big teams or those strong at TTT less of an advantage (which, some would say, is an unfair advantage) over the smaller teams less accomplished in TTTing. In that way, it's actually a good idea.
And it means that spectators will have twice as many passes of riders!
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 22, 2017, 20:17
 This race is a long time fav of mine.
No silly big mountains where sod all happens.
Just lots nasty rampy stuff to splinter the race into pieces.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: just some guy on March 23, 2017, 08:55
Stage 1a is underway 27 km no break
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: Not My Circus on March 23, 2017, 08:58
Stage 1a is underway 27 km no break

Blimey, not even time for a leisurely breakfast... VAI VAI Kenny
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: Not My Circus on March 23, 2017, 09:04
Excellent question. All I can come up with is: Why not? :dizzy

It gives the big teams or those strong at TTT less of an advantage (which, some would say, is an unfair advantage) over the smaller teams less accomplished in TTTing. In that way, it's actually a good idea.
And it means that spectators will have twice as many passes of riders!

I think it's a great idea. I do like a TTT in it's proper place.  But overly long in shorter stage races unbalances the whole race. This is a good way to rectify that, though I can see it's not going to work everywhere.

This race is a long time fav of mine.
No silly big mountains where sod all happens.
Just lots nasty rampy stuff to splinter the race into pieces.

I am excited to follow it this year - and tending to agree about big set piece long haul drags \o/
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: just some guy on March 23, 2017, 09:05
https://twitter.com/CCCProTeam/status/844836660860743682
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: Not My Circus on March 23, 2017, 09:41
team Sky doing best impression of a Volta Catalunya stage profile  :lol

https://twitter.com/TeamSky/status/844830479098363904

I'm assuming Lopez is just going to put Kenny in his pocket for the TTT
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: just some guy on March 23, 2017, 11:21
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7mUJPBUwAEkhm3.jpg)

2 Frenchies broke away from the BOTD

Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: Not My Circus on March 23, 2017, 11:29

2 Frenchies broke away from the BOTD


Pichon of the Piglet on fire right now...  and I'll certainly not forget he's with FVC now ;p
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 23, 2017, 11:33
#fortuneo on fire! :cool
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: just some guy on March 23, 2017, 11:36
#fortuneo on fire! :cool

 :lol :lol T anyone seen T ?
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 23, 2017, 12:18
#nippo Harry Dondo DNS :fp. Dombrowski, Pirazzi, Pozdnyakov, Foliforov all lost time
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 23, 2017, 17:55
the second semi-stage was won by CCC, #direct Calmejane remained in the lead



53 minutes of highlights from day 1 are available on PMG Sport's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/PMGliveSport/videos/1262436990478759/)

edit: also in HD now on the website: http://www.pmgsport.it/video/coppi-e-bartali-23-marzo/
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: killswitch on March 23, 2017, 18:46
the second semi-stage was won by CCC, #direct Calmejane remained in the lead

...

53 minutes of highlights from day 1 are available on PMG Sport's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/PMGliveSport/videos/1262436990478759/)

edit: also in HD now on the website: http://www.pmgsport.it/video/coppi-e-bartali-23-marzo/
David Lopez only 47 seconds down.  :cool
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: LukasCPH on March 23, 2017, 19:42
David Lopez only 47 seconds down.  :cool
Quite impressive really!
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: DJW on March 23, 2017, 20:36
Geoghegan Hart well placed, as are Gibbons and Bernal.



Kenny and Lopez beat Gazprom's team with Foliforov  :S :S :o :o :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 23, 2017, 23:45
Kenny and Lopez beat Gazprom's team with Foliforov  :S :S :o :o :lol :lol

yeah 20th from 44 teams, and some not even that bad. That's quite impressive I'd say.

Interesting that Arredondo (according to PCS) came 35th in the TTT after not finishing the 1st stage btw :P
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: just some guy on March 24, 2017, 13:08
https://twitter.com/CCCProTeam/status/845251262933336067
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 24, 2017, 18:20
Skuijns took the stage and the lead in gc with the first win for Cannondale. It's still pretty close though, Calmejane and Bernal are not too far behind



Highlights in HD are already available online:

http://www.pmgsport.it/video/seconda-tappa-della-settimana-coppi-bartali-rivivi-la-gara/
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 26, 2017, 07:56
after already wearing the leader's jersey with Calmejane for one day, #direct Direct Energie added up and took the win on stage 3. Boudat won a sprint from a ~20 men select group which went clear early on, including 6 Direct Energie riders. But also #cannondale Skuijs, who thereby defended his lead in the gc.

(http://gsemilia.it/images/stories/crevalcore2017_small.jpg) (http://gsemilia.it/images/stories/crevalcore2017-maglie_small.jpg)



highlights (http://www.pmgsport.it/video/terza-giornata-coppi-e-bartali-ciclismo-cup-2017)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 26, 2017, 18:36
well, we all know... a real #cannondale Cannondale rider needs to lose a gc on the final day at least once in his career. Today it was Skuijns turn to do so. #direct Calmejane neutralized #androni Torres' solo attack with 10m to go, won the stage, and thereby also the GC.

(http://gsemilia.it/images/stories/sassuolo-arrivo_small.jpg)



(http://gsemilia.it/images/stories/sassuolo-podiogeneralefinale_small.jpg)



Highlights in HD (http://www.pmgsport.it/video/quarta-tappa-settimana-coppi-e-bartali/)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: LukasCPH on March 26, 2017, 19:43
well, we all know... a real #cannondale Cannondale rider needs to lose a gc on the final day at least once in his career. Today it was Skuijns turn to do so. #direct Calmejane neutralized #androni Torres' solo attack with 10m to go, won the stage, and thereby also the GC.
:lol

Great job by #direct Tarzan. He's getting there.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: t-72 on March 26, 2017, 22:09
well, we all know... a real #cannondale Cannondale rider needs to lose a gc on the final day at least once in his career. Today it was Skuijns turn to do so.

What happened to the rest of the team? All DNF? mass crash?
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: LukasCPH on March 27, 2017, 00:20
What happened to the rest of the team? All DNF? mass crash?
Yes, that's odd. Trouble at #cannondale after Skujins demanded full support? :shh

Or - more likely - they just had a bad fish for dinner yesterday. ;)
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 27, 2017, 07:46
mmh, it's a pretty tough circuit though, and once you're dropped there's nothing you can do anymore anyway

Skujins said

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“The way the team rode all day, they were giving it their all,” he added. “We were all tired. It was hard for everyone. The riders and the staff gave 100 percent every day in Italy. I’m disappointed personally, but I’m also disappointed I couldn’t do it for them.”

http://slipstreamsports.com/greenargyle-weekend-wrap-up/

sounds like they just did their job and then gave it a call
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 27, 2017, 17:09
Ciclismo Cup standings:

https://twitter.com/ACCPI1946/status/846392655235989505
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: Leadbelly on March 27, 2017, 17:32
Ciclismo Cup

As this is the replacement for the Coppa Italia presumably a Giro wildcard awaits the winner? Looks a shoe in for Androni going by their early season form. At the other end of the table, let's just say 2017 could be a fallow year for Bardiani.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Settimana Coppi e Bartali)
Post by: search on March 27, 2017, 17:56
As this is the replacement for the Coppa Italia presumably a Giro wildcard awaits the winner? Looks a shoe in for Androni going by their early season form.

yeah, exactly. Still plenty of races to come, but indeed, it's looking quite good for Androni
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Giro dell'Appennino)
Post by: search on April 04, 2017, 23:28
(http://www.uspontedecimo.it/images/stories/Giroappennino/2017/girodellappennino2017_cop-1.jpg)
78° Giro dell'Appennino

Sunday, April 9th

Racing in Italy continues with the Giro dell'Appennino on Sunday, coming up with some changes compared to last year. Two more climbs were added in the finale, with particularly the steep Monte Domenico as a big challenge for those who want to fight for the win in Chiavari.

(http://www.uspontedecimo.it/images/stories/Giroappennino/2017/gda_planimetria_2017.jpg) (http://www.uspontedecimo.it/images/stories/Giroappennino/2017/gda_altimetria_2017.jpg) (http://www.uspontedecimo.it/images/stories/Giroappennino/2017/gda_salite_2017.jpg)

~pdf Roadbook (http://www.uspontedecimo.it/images/stories/smallgirodellappennino2017.pdf)

The profile of the race was pretty climber-friendly already in the past two years, with #gazprom Firsanov and #cajarural Fraile on the top of the podium in 2016 and 2015, and I guess we can expect more of that.

There is no provisional start list available yet, but I guess #androni Savio will just send Bernal, Torres and Cattaneo to secure his 2018 Giro wildcard
Bardiani has been pretty underwhelming so far this year, same as Nippos climbers, and Wilier doesn't really have any of them on their roster anyway, so at the moment it's hard to see anyone challenging the potential Androni armada.

But still, although Firsanov has had a quite season so far - probably peaking for his win in the Giro - he can never be underestimated of course. Same as guys like #meridiana Rabottini or maybe young #sangemini Nicola Gaffurini, who may struggle to make it over the climbs though.

Nonetheless, the highlights should be worth a watch, available on PMG Sport online in the evening, probably just after Roubaix has finished.
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Giro dell'Appennino)
Post by: search on April 08, 2017, 18:22
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:win :win

apart from that, not much to report, about as expected. Androni bringt its A-Team indeed :cool

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Giro_dell%20Appennino_2017_Startlist
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Giro dell'Appennino)
Post by: LukasCPH on April 09, 2017, 17:55
Androni bringt its A-Team indeed :cool
#androni had 3 riders in the first group, won the sprint with Bernal ...
... but Danilo Celano (me neither) had already won 16" ahead:
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Giro dell'Appennino)
Post by: search on April 09, 2017, 18:04
me neither. Attacked on the final climb, dropped Torres and Senni, and three Androni couldn't bring him back  :S

Highlights: http://www.pmgsport.it/video/diretta-streaming-giro-dellappennino/
Title: Re: The Italian Spring (Giro dell'Appennino)
Post by: Leadbelly on April 09, 2017, 20:26
I've heard of him! :D

He cropped up a few times in the America Tour last year, but not doing anything to suggest he was capable of this. Did quite well in the Taiwan KOM Challenge if I remember correctly.