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Title: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: Not My Circus on January 30, 2017, 15:57
*fr 2017 Coupe de France de cyclisme sur route *fr

With the running of GP La Marseilles yesterday, it is time for the annual post on that bedrock of French cycling. Ah oui mesdames et messieurs, je vous présente La Coupe de France 2017.

Usually the phrase 'season long narrative' makes me very cross, especially when it is being shoe-horned into somewhere where it makes no sense whatsoever. However, this is not the case for the Coupe de France. A national competition to find the best individual, best young rider and best team over a series of one day races throughout the season works extremely well and makes absolute sense.


https://youtu.be/R3IvXo0W1YI

Scoring
Individual and Young Rider
2016 was the first edition where ALL riders in the race were eligible to score points for the individual best rider and best young rider competition, and as far as I am aware this will be the same for 2017.

Points are awarded as follows:
Position123456789101112131415
Points503525201816141210865333

Team Competition
The team competition remains an entirely French affair. It's a little more complicated and so this is from Wikipedia...
Quote
Each race, the positions of the first three riders of each French team are added to give the team position. The team with the lowest team position is the winner of the team competition for that race. E.g.: a team having their first three riders all on the podium will have a team position score of 1+2+3=6 and since no other team will have a lower team position, this team will win 12 points for the team standings. Note that only French teams can score points.

Points are awarded as follows:
Position12345678910
Points12987654321

Quick recap from 2016
The series turned out to be a close fight between two times winner Ag2r's Samuel Dumoulin and Belgian sprinter Baptiste Planckaert (Wallonie-Bruxelles), with both riders separated by just one point before the final race at  Tour de Vendée. Dumoulin finished ahead of Planckaert in the to secure his third overall win. Best young rider was Bryan Coquard, and best team went to HP BTP–Auber93. All the results and final standings can be found here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_French_Road_Cycling_Cup).

Here's a super little visual roundup. Come on! Who doesn't enjoy a bit of Timberlake with their French cycling[1]?

https://youtu.be/Acehmk3l2Cc

And of course there is the traditional PMU awards night at the hippodrome, where for once Samuel Dumoulin is not the shortest man in the room  :lol
https://youtu.be/1cTsJIPlXaQ

Coupe de France calendar 2017
Round Date Race Won by Leader Best team
#1 29 Jan GP La Marseillaise #fdj *fr Arthur Vichot #fdj *fr Vichot #ag2r AG2R La Mondiale
#2 18 Mar Classic Loire Atlantique #fortuneo *fr Laurent Pichon #fortuneo Pichon #fortuneo Fortuneo Vital Concept
#3 31 Mar Route Adélie
#4 2 Apr Roue Tourangelle
#5 11 Apr Paris-Camembert
#6 13 Apr GP de Denain
#7 15 Apr Tour du Finistère
#8 17 April Tro Bro Leon
#9 27 May GP de Plumelec-Morbihan
#10 28 May Boucles de l'Aulne
#11 30 Jul Polynormande
#12 3 Sep GP de Fourmies
#13 10 Sep Tour du Doubs
#14 17 Sep GP d'Isbergues
#1 1 Oct Tour de Vendée

I'll try and keep this table updated as the season gets going.

LNC Coupe de France webpage is HERE (http://www.lncpro.fr/(gtpdoomffcgrpz55ivne4z45)/Default6_57.aspx?HeaderID=3&TopID=9&SubtitleID=Courses%20%3E%20Classement&MatsportUrlID=cf/2017)
 1. answers on a postcard please
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: LukasCPH on January 31, 2017, 12:33
I'll try and keep this table updated as the season gets going.
Fixed the non-appearing *fr & #fdj for you. :)
Those smileys don't like to directly follow a comma, so make sure to leave a space in front of them. ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: jimmythecuckoo on February 07, 2017, 10:41
The higlights show was presented by Marion Rousse so all good as far as I am concerned.


That football invading the sprint was a little un-nerving though.
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France: Round Two Classic Loire Atlantique
Post by: Not My Circus on March 16, 2017, 12:40
Classic Loire Atlantique
La Haye-Fouassière  to La Haye-Fouassière, 182.8km
Round Two Coupe De France
Sat 18th March
(http://i63.tinypic.com/33wlb7k.jpg)

It's been a long time since #1 of the Coupe de France way back on 29th Jan hasn't it? So much racing under our belts that's it's hard to recall the day #fdj Arthur Vichot cocked a snook at curses and took the win GP La Marseillaise.

However, #2 is upon us AT LAST. I know we'll all be in La Primevera mode, but let's not forsake the French altogether[1] because the hilly circuits that make up the Classic Loire Atlantique always provide some exciting racing.

It's your typical Coupe de France race. A tough, hilly parcours that will be aggressively raced, hard to control and therefore completely unpredictable. Since it's inclusion in the competition in 2012 it has never come down to a bunch sprint finish. Florian Vachon (Bretagne-Seche) won from a two-up sprint in 2012, but since then Cammaerts, Gougeard (twice) and Turgis all took victory from a solo move.

Previous Winners
2016 | TURGIS Anthony
2015 | GOUGEARD Alexis
2014 | GOUGEARD Alexis
2013 | CAMMAERTS Edwig
2012 | VACHON Florian
2011 | WESTRA Lieuwe
2010 | MANGEL Laurent
2009 | BESSY Cyril
2008 | GAZTANAGA Mikel
2007 | JALABERT Nicolas

2016 Edition



2016 saw  #cofidis Cofidis take the race apart. They put 5 riders in the decisive 8 man break and finished with 4 in the top 5. Anthony Turgis went solo on the final lap and with 4 team mates in the 7 man chase group, stayed away to take victory by over a minute.

https://twitter.com/m_chaillot/status/711297003033124864

2016 was a particularly brutal edition, with only 49 finishing from the 168 on the start line. This wasn't due to bad weather, it was the sheer speed and aggression of the racing, with many saying it was a harder race than #MSR

https://twitter.com/PDiegner/status/711641506839453696
https://twitter.com/PDiegner/status/711598250227310593

https://youtu.be/hyQP36ca34E


Parcours
Map
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2a4pv04.jpg)

Profile
(http://i68.tinypic.com/abtqv9.jpg)

182.8km sees the peloton cover 11 laps of a lumpy 16.8km circuit in the hills south of La Haye Fouassiére.  The hilly circuit is really an invitation to attacks and that makes the race very unpredictable.

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/14750436.jpg)

There are two main climbs. Chateau-Thebaud is tackled at 7.5km and the St-Fiacre-sur-Main at 9.8km. After the St Fiacre the remaining 7km is rolling all the way to the finish. The last 3km is fairly straightforward, with a slight uphill drag to the line.

Little YouTube preview of the course here...with a slideshow of the climbs
https://youtu.be/Qvh0AnFsSlI

2017 Start List
Teams. As below PLUS a French National team
(http://i66.tinypic.com/6i78lv.jpg)

Confirmed start list
 (http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Classic_Loire_Atlantique_2017_Startlist)
Who'll stand atop the podium?
As I said, it's unpredictable and much will depend on how the bigger teams ride the race. You're looking for in-form riders, those who can sniff the winning move and have the strength to stay with it. Start looking for your needle in the giant haystack now. Me? I'm going with the brown shorted Vuillermoz :cheer

[b]Live Streams[/b]
Not sure yet. It's not listed on either Cycling Fans (http://www.cyclingfans.com/) or Pro Cycling Live (https://www.procyclinglive.com/livestream/)
Eurosport seem to have it listed, and I'm certain there will be a French stream. I'll update with any I find.

Direct Velo will have a liveticker (http://www.directvelo.com/direct/3126/classic-loire-atlantique-2017)

Social Media
Website (http://www.classic-loire-atlantique.com/classic-loire-atlantique.asp?page=presentation&categorie=L%27organisation%202009)
Race Twitter @ClassicLoire44 (https://twitter.com/ClassicLoire44) Hashtag #Classic44
Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/LoireAtlantiqueClassic/)
 1. *cough* ALLEZ Demare and Bouhanni
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: Not My Circus on March 18, 2017, 08:16
Start List HERE (http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Classic_Loire_Atlantique_2017_Startlist)
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: Not My Circus on March 18, 2017, 17:09


What was I saying about bunch sprints at the Classic Loire Atlantique??? But wait all is NOT what it appears from the table.

Going into the final lap, we had a group holding 18secs or so on the peloton -  (Boudat, Voeckler (Direct Energie), Dumoulin (AG2R-La Mondiale), Fournier, Eiking (FDJ), Cunff, Maldonado, Oien (Caja Rujal), Lietaer , Van Gestel, Van Lerberghe, Sprengers (Sport Vlaanderen-Baloise), Cousin, Hofstetter (Cofidis), Offredo, Vanspeybroucke (Wanty-Groupe Gobert), Cosnefroy (France) Vachon, Perchon, Feillu, Bonnamour, Vital Concept). The eagle eyed amongst you will see that  #fortuneo FVC (best kit in the PC peloton) had four in there.

In last 10km Franck Bonnamour attacked. He was brought back, and almost immediately Laurent Pichon (yep had to remind myself he is not with  #fdj #dokeepupmidge) zipped off the front. To be joined by a resurgent Bonnamour. With 2km to go the Breton pair were holding 8secs. Under the flamme rouge, Bonnamour gave one last pull for his teammate. Pichon must have felt the hot breath of the rampaging pelton, but he BELIEVED and was REWARDED :cheer  First over the line by a few metres, certainly not enough to get a time gap.

 #direct Boudat got up for second, with  #cofidis Hofstetter (he of the cool hair) rounding out the podium. At least that's how I think it went down from the liveticker... I'm away to find a video. ...

https://youtu.be/0qUXThxGo48

So really it was a solo break win... JUST...on a technicality  :lol

https://twitter.com/directvelo/status/843146513463296002
 
OT... but this made me laugh. I 3> Daniel Mangeas
https://twitter.com/blaisou85/status/843145371408830464
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: search on March 18, 2017, 17:13
take that, T-72  :D
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: DJW on March 18, 2017, 23:03
PCS and CQ can't appear to agree between them whether it was Boudat or Hofstetter who finished 2nd
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: search on March 18, 2017, 23:17
Boudat is correct, as far as I can see

http://matsport.fr/resultat/2017/CLA/pdf/Resultats/01_Resultats_Complet.pdf

maybe it was different in the provisional result?
Title: Re: 2017 Coupe de France
Post by: Not My Circus on March 19, 2017, 07:34
Boudat is correct, as far as I can see

http://matsport.fr/resultat/2017/CLA/pdf/Resultats/01_Resultats_Complet.pdf

maybe it was different in the provisional result?

It was close (see below). I did see a couple of tweets saying Boudat third at the time, but it was corrected pretty quickly - at least on direct velo

https://youtu.be/hyQP36ca34E