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Professional Cycling => Road Races => Topic started by: LukasCPH on February 17, 2017, 08:16

Title: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: LukasCPH on February 17, 2017, 08:16
Here's the course for the Tokyo RR. Followed by 12 flat kilometres to the finish:
https://twitter.com/hendriksmj/status/832492449071321088
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: Leadbelly on February 17, 2017, 08:35
http://nos.nl/artikel/2158520-olympische-wegwedstrijd-in-tokio-over-twee-klimmetjes.html

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The first climb is 1.7 kilometers long, with an average increase of 3.2 percent. After a short descent follows a climb of 2.3 kilometers long. Which brings the riders to the highest point of the trail (134 meters above sea level). The rate of increase of that climb is 3.7.

The course in Tokyo therefore seems less written on the body of the climbers than the track in Rio during the last summer Games.

You don't say. :P
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: just some guy on February 17, 2017, 10:36
https://twitter.com/LasterketaBurua/status/832538553146101760
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: Leadbelly on November 18, 2019, 15:37
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/official-documents/tokyo-2020---olympic-games/liste-des-noc-qualifi-s-me-2020.pdf?sfvrsn=3bc0989c_10

Olympic Quotas:

(RR/TT)

Belgium (5/2)
Colombia (5/1)
Spain (5/1)
France (5/1)
Italy (5/2)
Netherlands (5/1)

Australia (4/2)
Denmark (4/1)
Great Britain (4/2)
Germany (4/2)
Norway (4/1)
Slovenia (4/1)
Switzerland (4/2)

Austria (3/1)
Canada (3/1)
Czech Republic (3/1)
Ireland (3/1)
Kazakhstan (3/1)
Poland (3/1)
South Africa (3/1)
Russia (3/1)

Algeria (2/0)
Ecuador (2/1)
Eritrea (2/1)
Estonia (2/2)
Japan (2/0)
Latvia (2/0)
Luxembourg (2/0)
New Zealand (2/2)
Portugal (2/2)
Slovakia (2/1)
Turkey (2/0)
United States (2/2)

Argentina (1/0)
Azerbaijan (1/0)
Burkina Faso (1/0)
China (1/0)
Chinese Taipei (1/0)
Costa Rica (1/0)
Greece (1/0)
Guatemala (1/0) )
Hong Kong (1/0)
Hungary (1/0)
Iran (1/1)
Lithuania (1/0)
Morocco (1/0)
Mexico (1/0)
Namibia (1/0)
Panama (1/0)
Peru (1/0)
Romania (1/0)
Rwanda (1/0)
Ukraine (1/0)
Uzbekistan (1/0)
Venezuela (1/0)
Belarus (1/0)
Sweden (1/0)
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: Leadbelly on November 28, 2019, 14:09
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1200035976216825861

No Olympics for Tony at all. Concentrating on the Worlds TT instead.
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: search on December 17, 2019, 10:28
https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/zakarin-considers-changing-nationality-after-wada-ban-on-russia/

I guess as a former doper he won't be allowed to compete under the neutral flag or as "OAR". And even if he is able to become a Cypriot citizen before the Olympics: they didn't qualify anyway.
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: LukasCPH on December 18, 2019, 12:34
https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/zakarin-considers-changing-nationality-after-wada-ban-on-russia/

I guess as a former doper he won't be allowed to compete under the neutral flag or as "OAR". And even if he is able to become a Cypriot citizen before the Olympics: they didn't qualify anyway.
Yeah, but, you know, he's too busy riding bikes to consider all this? :shh

To have any chance of competing under a different flag, he'd have had to 'do an Olga'[1] and change nationality at least at the beginning of 2019, in order to score enough points to qualify.
This is a re-run of the "Rebellin becoming Argentinian" in 2004 story - that didn't actually happen either.

Ironically, *ru -> *uz Olga Zabelinskaya, who did the nationality switch early enough, failed to qualify for the Olympics too.  :lol
 1. Olga Zabelinskaya, triple Olympic medalist and once suspended for doping, changed nationality from *ru to *uz in August 2018
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: AG on January 03, 2020, 07:25
https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/zakarin-considers-changing-nationality-after-wada-ban-on-russia/

I guess as a former doper he won't be allowed to compete under the neutral flag or as "OAR". And even if he is able to become a Cypriot citizen before the Olympics: they didn't qualify anyway.

I thought I had read somewhere that he was going to be allowed to ride under the neutral flag.  Because he was under the cycling testing regime, and not under the Russian ADA testing ... or something.

It does strike me as something that he would be able to appeal if they prevented it.  He has served his time once, was kept out of the last olympics also because of a previous offence and now (according to him) they want to punish him a third time for the same offense.

Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: search on January 03, 2020, 08:00
It does strike me as something that he would be able to appeal if they prevented it.  He has served his time once, was kept out of the last olympics also because of a previous offence and now (according to him) they want to punish him a third time for the same offense.

from my understanding of the rules (at least those applied for the 2018 Winter Olympics (https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-suspends-russian-noc-and-creates-a-path-for-clean-individual-athletes-to-compete-in-pyeongchang-2018-under-the-olympic-flag)) he'll be punished for that forever, yes

To invite individual Russian athletes to the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018 [...] Athletes must be considered clean to the satisfaction of this panel:
2016 was a but of a different story as Russia was still taking part as a nation back then. For this "OAR" thing the IOC is basically free to invite whoever they want anyway, I think.
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 04, 2020, 23:11
from my understanding of the rules (at least those applied for the 2018 Winter Olympics (https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-suspends-russian-noc-and-creates-a-path-for-clean-individual-athletes-to-compete-in-pyeongchang-2018-under-the-olympic-flag)) he'll be punished for that forever, yes
Am I right that these restrictions wouldn't apply if Zakarin were starting under a different flag?
Not that it matters since *cy isn't qualified for the Olympics anyway ...
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 18, 2020, 01:52
Was just reading this article (https://www.eurosport.co.uk/cycling/redefining-impossible-chris-froome-and-a-daring-dream-of-double-glory_sto7662314/story.shtml) about Chris Froome and his Tour/Olympics ambitions for 2020. 
:S


However, there's an interesting description of the road surface and final climb of the Tokyo Road Race course, from a recon ride that included Froome, Michal Kwiatkowski, Jakob Fuglsang and Romain Bardet.

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The last climb with 30km to go is very demanding,” says Bardet of the Mikuni Pass. “It’s the kind of climb you can’t find anywhere in Europe. The Fuji climb is the iconic one, but it reminds me of some of the climbs you can find in the Alps for example.”

With gradients of 20%, the Mikuni Pass is as steep as many of Europe’s most challenging ascents. But that isn’t what Bardet means when he says it’s different and demanding. It is the road surface itself that will take the European riders out of their comfort zone. Huge storm drains on either side narrow the racing area, while the grippy surface is covered in grooves designed to drain away the typhoon rainfall. It makes for leg-sapping climbing conditions, that will likely suit only the strongest climbing legs.

(https://i.eurosport.com/2020/02/13/2774251.jpg)

Could be interesting.  :)
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: Joelsim on February 18, 2020, 11:02
That looks easy. Even I could do a couple of kms at 12% downhill.
Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 18, 2020, 14:48
That looks easy. Even I could do a couple of kms at 12% downhill.

You forget that Japan, like China, is the other side of the world. Up is down, down is up.