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Title: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 12, 2017, 00:39
Here are the details, no major changes from what we have had before (and in fact this post is largely a copy.paste and edit job)

I will be away from the Thursday before the start until the following Tuesday, so will probably only have very brief opportunities, if any, to check teams submitted in the last two days or process early results.  I may not be able to warn you if you select riders who are not in the race or if your team is overbudget if it is after Thursday morning.


Team of exactly nine riders   If you pick someone who is not riding, I'll replace him with the next cheapest of his team, or the next cheapest in the race if there is not one in his team.

Budget    Budget will be 3500 points.  If you are over budget, I'll take out the cheapest rider who can be replaced with a cheaper member of his team that will bring you into budget, or the next cheapest in the race if there is not one in his team (first in alphabetical order if two or more meet that definition).

Price of riders
CQ score for 12 months to 13th August, for which the update file that CQ released on Monday 14th will be considered definitive. 
There is a dropbox spreadsheet of riders likely to participate and their prices for the game (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nnvananw3htroln/vuelta%202017%20team%20selector.xls?dl=0), and a facility for checking the team total.

Submitting your team
By personal message to me, either here or at CN.
Please wait until the accurate prices are available.
Please send the team with names formatted as per CQ. (Surname[space]Forename and nothing else: Spanish/Portuguese names need particular care, as do accents or other diacritics) Please do not riders' teams and prices.  It makes an enormous difference to the efficiency of adding teams.  If you use the dropbox spreadsheet it will be a simple copy and paste job.


I have lodged my team with the first person to submit a team (Hayabusa).


Deadline
The start of the race, which I believe to be Saturday 19th August at 5:30 pm  (CEST, 15:30 UTC)

Scoring
Points issued according to the points tables of CQ (column GT2) (http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rules.asp).  Note there are no points issued for the young rider category.

Entries will be listed here, when and as I get a chance.  If you are on another forum, by all means plug the game there.

Good luck to all.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: just some guy on August 12, 2017, 12:55
A sunday job I think  :cool
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Leadbelly on August 12, 2017, 17:47
A sunday job I think  :cool

After Monday might be better. ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: just some guy on August 12, 2017, 17:50
After Monday might be better. ;)

maybe ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Joelsim on August 14, 2017, 12:10
I think I have this in the bag.

Although, need to pick my team now.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 14, 2017, 22:02
15 of the teams are (according to PCS) finalised, the prices are fixed, the dropbox team selector file is updated (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nnvananw3htroln/Vuelta%202017%20team%20selector.xls?dl=0), my team is lodged with Hatabusa: the game is fully open.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Trudgin on August 14, 2017, 22:33

Can i do 2 teams? please? pretty please?
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: search on August 15, 2017, 08:38
here's the startlist including cq values (:cool = confirmed) as well... I'll try to keep it updated

#trek      TREK-SEGAFREDO      :cool      #bora      BORA-HANSGROHE      :cool   
      CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto      1462            MAJKA Rafal      850   
      DEGENKOLB John      1348            BUCHMANN Emanuel      544   
      THEUNS Edward      440            KONRAD Patrick      409   
      PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson      280            PFINGSTEN Christoph      163   
      STETINA Peter      147            SCHWARZMANN Michael      98   
      DE KORT Koen      120            BENEDETTI Cesare      91   
      BERNARD Julien      76            KOLAR Michael      72   
      HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus      60            POLJANSKI Pawel      61   
      IRIZAR ARANBURU Markel      46            SCHILLINGER Andreas      35   
            3979                  2323   
                                 
#astana      ASTANA PRO TEAM      :cool      #bmc      BMC RACING TEAM      :cool   
      ARU Fabio      1242            DENNIS Rohan      1048   
      LUTSENKO Alexey      516            CARUSO Damiano      730   
      SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon      467            VAN GARDEREN Tejay      461   
      LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      354            ROCHE Nicolas      317   
      BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      317            OSS Daniel      175   
      DE VREESE Laurens      173            DE MARCHI Alessandro      155   
      STALNOV Nikita      158            VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose      93   
      CHERNETSKIY Sergey      147            VLIEGEN Loïc      192   
      HANSEN Jesper      116            FRANKINY Kilian      67   
            3490                  3238   
                                 
#movistar      MOVISTAR TEAM      :cool      #bahrain      BAHRAIN - MERIDA      :cool   
      MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel      471            NIBALI Vincenzo      751   
      SOLER GIMENEZ Marc      407            VISCONTI Giovanni      568   
      CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      322            PELLIZOTTI Franco      179   
      ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin      230            GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      127   
      FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben      221            MORENO BAZAN Javier      112   
      OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes      203            BOARO Manuele      94   
      BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto      159            NOVAK Domen      56   
      ARCAS PEÑA Jorge      74            AGNOLI Valerio      25   
      PEDRERO LOPEZ Antonio      58            NIBALI Antonio      20   
            2145                  1932   
                                 
#sky      TEAM SKY      :cool      #quickstep      QUICK STEP FLOORS      :cool   
      FROOME Chris      1967            DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David      788   
      MOSCON Gianni      559            JUNGELS Bob      773   
      POELS Wout      411            TRENTIN Matteo      637   
      ROSA Diego      349            ALAPHILIPPE Julian      610   
      NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel      279            LAMPAERT Yves      546   
      STANNARD Ian      142            TERPSTRA Niki      462   
      LOPEZ GARCIA David      97            MAS NICOLAU Enric      245   
      PUCCIO Salvatore      80            DECLERCQ Tim      100   
      KNEES Christian      65            CAPECCHI Eros      45   
            3949                  4206   
                                 
#ag2r      AG2R LA MONDIALE            #katusha            :cool   
      BARDET Romain      1320            ZAKARIN Ilnur      805   
      POZZOVIVO Domenico      973            GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel      480   
      DOMONT Axel      185            BYSTRØM Sven Erik      211   
      GENIEZ Alexandre      329            MAMYKIN Matvey      161   
      HOULE Hugo      184            HALLER Marco      87   
      GOUGEARD Alexis      147            MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael      80   
      DUVAL Julien      97            TAARAMÄE Rein      79   
      CHEVRIER Clément      80            BELKOV Maxim      74   
      DENZ Nico      39            LOSADA ALGUACIL Alberto      55   
            3354                  2032   
                                 
#cannondale      CANNONDALE-DRAPAC PRO CYCLING TEAM      :cool      #dimension      DIMENSION DATA      :cool   
      WOODS Michael      434            FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar      323   
      VILLELLA Davide      380            KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin      316   
      VAN ASBROECK Tom      235            PAUWELS Serge      274   
      SKUJINS Toms      202            MORTON Lachlan      181   
      CLARKE Simon      143            ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor      165   
      SCULLY Tom      77            JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques      99   
      CANTY Brendan      75            KING Benjamin      83   
      CLARKE William      65            REGUIGUI Youcef      69   
      DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd      58            DOUGALL Nicolas      64   
            1669                  1574   
                                 
#sunweb      TEAM SUNWEB      :cool      #jumbo      TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO      :cool   
      BARGUIL Warren      866            BENNETT George      602   
      KELDERMAN Wilco      529            KRUIJSWIJK Steven      386   
      OOMEN Sam      349            LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose      268   
      ANDERSEN Søren Kragh      236            CLEMENT Stef      187   
      KÄMNA Lennard      138            BOUWMAN Koen      160   
      HOFSTEDE Lennard      92            LINDEMAN Bert-Jan      104   
      FRÖHLINGER Johannes      80            TOLHOEK Antwan      78   
      HAGA Chad      70            DE TIER Floris      65   
      HAMILTON Chris      46            OLIVIER Daan      28   
            2406                  1878   
                                 
#orica      ORICA - SCOTT      :cool      #lotto      LOTTO - SOUDAL      :cool   
      YATES Simon      1149            DEBUSSCHERE Jens      431   
      CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban      1082            ARMEE Sander      337   
      CORT NIELSEN Magnus      783            DE GENDT Thomas      304   
      YATES Adam      722            MONFORT Maxime      268   
      JUUL JENSEN Christopher      305            HANSEN Adam      144   
      HAIG Jack      271            MARCZYNSKI Tomasz      100   
      VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos      194            DE CLERCQ Bart      98   
      TUFT Svein      122            WALLAYS Jelle      88   
      BEWLEY Sam      41            MERTZ Rémy      20   
            4669                  1790   
                                 
#uae      UAE - TEAMEMIRATES      :cool      #fdj      FDJ      :cool   
      COSTA Rui Alberto Faria      999            ROUX Anthony      410   
      MODOLO Sacha      685            LE BON Johan      276   
      MEINTJES Louis      530            EIKING Odd Christian      226   
      ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin      445            MANZIN Lorrenzo      119   
      POLANC Jan      339            HOELGAARD Daniel      110   
      MOHORIC Matej      301            LUDVIGSSON Tobias      103   
      NIEMIEC Przemyslaw      229            MAISON Jérémy      38   
      AIT EL ABDIA Anass      74            COURTEILLE Arnaud      35   
      ZURLO Federico      55            FOURNIER Marc      25   
            3657                  1342   
                                 
#cajarural      CAJA RURAL - SEGUROS RGA      :cool      #aquablue      AQUA BLUE SPORT      :cool   
      ROSON GARCIA Jaime      536            BLYTHE Adam      291   
      PARDILLA BELLON Sergio      310            KREDER Michel      275   
      ARROYO DURAN David      201            WARBASSE Larry      244   
      MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo      116            HANSEN Lasse Norman      178   
      SCHULTZ Nicholas      112            DENIFL Stefan      159   
      RUBIO HERNANDEZ Diego      108            CHRISTIAN Mark      133   
      FERRARI BARCELO Fabricio      102            KONING Peter      102   
      REIS Rafael Ferreira      70            GATE Aaron      61   
      SAEZ BENITO Hector      40            DUNNE Conor      45   
            1595                  1488   
                                 
#manzana      MANZANA POSTOBON      :cool      #cofidis            :cool   
      VILELA Ricardo Augusto Afonso      216            VAN GENECHTEN Jonas      364   
      BOL Jetse      151            MATE MARDONES Luis Angel      239   
      MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian      132            PEREZ Anthony      170   
      REYES ORTEGA Aldemar      104            NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel      150   
      AGUIRRE CALPA Hernan Ricardo      87            ROSSETTO Stéphane      94   
      ORJUELA GUTIERREZ Fernando      44            VANBILSEN Kenneth      62   
      SUAZA ARANGO Bernardo Albeiro      44            TURGIS Anthony      57   
      BOHORQUEZ SANCHEZ Hernando      25            BONNAFOND Guillaume      33   
      OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe      15            TURGIS Jimmy      15   
            818                  1184   
                           
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 17, 2017, 00:38
Eight teams in so far: a reminder that you have until Saturday late afternoon, but only until about 12 hours from the date stamp on this message if you want me to check your team.  I suspect I will have very little on-line time after that until Tuesday: normal updates should be available after that.   

Good luck, all.

Teams so far:
AmisVelo
ArchieBoy
Armchair_Cyclist
BluesInTheBottle
Emma
Hayabusa
McLongan *
Trudgin

*: team needs adjustment, manager aware.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 19, 2017, 09:00
I haven't been able to keep the list of entries updated, but I see that they have been arriving, and getting updated resume Sanchez.

Last reminder if you have not yet entered, the race starts, and the game closes, in just under 9 hours.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 22, 2017, 18:44
My absence in the last couple of days before the race started didn't seem to make too much difference to the number of entries, and apart from one manager trying to sneak in a tenth rider, all teams were legal and within budget.

42 teams, here they are (asterisks indicate unique picks, there are 40 of them):

Amis Velo
   CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   ROCHE Nicolas   
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   DE MARCHI Alessandro   
   TAARAMÄE Rein   
   HAGA Chad   *

ArchieBoy
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo   
   REYES ORTEGA Aldemar   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   

Armchair Cyclist
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   POELS Wout   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   ARROYO DURAN David   *
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   

Bicycle Boy
   FROOME Chris   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   
   VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose   
   PUCCIO Salvatore   *
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   
   CAPECCHI Eros   *
   OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe   

BikeRacer33
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   GENIEZ Alexandre   *
   NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   DE MARCHI Alessandro   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   

Blues in the Bottle
   MAJKA Rafal   
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   YATES Adam   
   SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   
   NIBALI Antonio   
   OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe   

Carlo Algatrensig
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   BOARO Manuele   
   VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose   
   WALLAYS Jelle   *
   MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael   *
   TAARAMÄE Rein   

Comodoro
   JUNGELS Bob   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   
   NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   
   HALLER Marco   

Contadoome
   CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   ROSA Diego   *
   PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson   
   NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   
   ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   
   DE KORT Koen   *
   BOARO Manuele   
   BELKOV Maxim   *

Crevaison
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   BOL Jetse   *
   BONNAFOND Guillaume   *

Del 1962
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   POELS Wout   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   TAARAMÄE Rein   

DJW
   YATES Adam   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   BENNETT George   *
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   

Emma
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   VISCONTI Giovanni   *
   SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo   
   BENEDETTI Cesare   

Evans is the Best
   BARDET Romain   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   FOURNIER Marc   *
   MERTZ Rémy   *
   TURGIS Jimmy   

Fauniera
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   HAIG Jack   *
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian   
   MANZIN Lorrenzo   
   AGUIRRE CALPA Hernan Ricardo   *

Geraint Too Fast

   FROOME Chris   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   POELS Wout   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   OLIVIER Daan   
   NIBALI Antonio   
   OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe   
   TURGIS Jimmy   

GodChild

   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   
   HOFSTEDE Lennard   *
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   

GPBlanco
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ROSON GARCIA Jaime   *
   SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   BOARO Manuele   
   HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus   
   OLIVIER Daan   

Hakkie2
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   
   POELS Wout   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   DE MARCHI Alessandro   
   DE CLERCQ Bart   

Hayabusa
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   JUNGELS Bob   
   POELS Wout   
   POLANC Jan   *
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   BLYTHE Adam   
   ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   
   KÄMNA Lennard   *
   SCULLY Tom   *

Hugo87
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
   VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   

Joelsim
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   
   NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   

Josedin
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian   
   REYES ORTEGA Aldemar   

Just Some Guy
   BARDET Romain   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
   OOMEN Sam   *
   LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   POLJANSKI Pawel   *
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   
   SAEZ BENITO Hector   

Kabete
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   *
   POELS Wout   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   ROCHE Nicolas   
   LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   
   ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   
   TAARAMÄE Rein   

Kazistuta
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   POELS Wout   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   BLYTHE Adam   
   LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   

Laarsland
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   WOODS Michael   *
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   ROCHE Nicolas   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   

Leadbelly
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   POELS Wout   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   
   SAEZ BENITO Hector   

LightBing
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   
   JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques   *
   VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose   
   TAARAMÄE Rein   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   

Los Brolin
   MAJKA Rafal   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   POELS Wout   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   
   TURGIS Anthony   *

McLongan
   MAJKA Rafal   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   BLYTHE Adam   
   FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   
   NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
   DE CLERCQ Bart   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   

Minessa
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   POELS Wout   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   TAARAMÄE Rein   
   OLIVIER Daan   

Ratta Kuningas
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   
   SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   *
   SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
   CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   *
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   RUBIO HERNANDEZ Diego   

Rote Laterne
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   HALLER Marco   
   TAARAMÄE Rein   

Scrool07

   CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
   COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   *
   SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
   LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   
   ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
   RUBIO HERNANDEZ Diego   
   HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus   

Search
   CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson   
   MORTON Lachlan   *
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   
   AGNOLI Valerio   

Shalgo
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   THEUNS Edward   *
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   *
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   MANZIN Lorrenzo   

Squire
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   YATES Adam   
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   TAARAMÄE Rein   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   
   OLIVIER Daan   

ThePirate81
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
   LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   

Trudgin
   CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose   
   BENEDETTI Cesare   
   TAARAMÄE Rein   
   TOLHOEK Antwan   *
   ARCAS PEÑA Jorge   *
   ZURLO Federico   *

Vladimir
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   
   FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   
   KONING Peter   *
   NOVAK Domen   *

Yellow Knight
   MAJKA Rafal   
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   NIBALI Vincenzo   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   
   VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose   
   DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   
   AGNOLI Valerio   
   NIBALI Antonio   

All the teams, results and number crunching is in this spreadsheet, (https://www.dropbox.com/s/jn78yrqa8371l4m/vuelta%202017%20cq%20game.xlsx?dl=0) and that is where things are updated each day.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 22, 2017, 21:59
Major picks  Riders costing over 700pts

Froome: Geraint Too Fast                              
   with Nibali: Bicycle Boy      
                        
Contador: Contadoome                              
   with Zakarin and Nibali: Trudgin      
                        
Bardet with Nibali   : Evans is the Best, Just Some Guy         
                  
Chavez with Costa : Scrool07                              
   with Nibali : Search                              
   with Nibali and A Yates: Amis Velo            
                  
Majka with Zakarin and De La Cruz and Nibali: Yellow Knight                              
   with Zakarin and A Yates: Blues in the Bottle                              
   with Nibali and A Yates: McLongan                              
   with Nibali: Los Brolin            
                  
Zakarin with De La Cruz and Nibali and A Yates: Carlo Algatrensig                              
   with Jungels: Hayabusa                              
   with Nibali   : ArchieBoy, Crevaison, Emma, GodChild, GPBlanco, Leadbelly, Lightbing, Minessa, Shalgo, ThePirate83, Vladimir
   with Nibali and A Yates: Fauniera, Joelsim, Squire   
                     
De La Cruz: Josedin   Ratta Kuningas
   with Nibali: BikeRacer33                              
                                    
Jungels with Nibali: Comodoro         
                     
Nibali: Del1962, Hakkie2, Kabete, Kazistuta, Laarsland                     
   with Yates A: Armchair Cyclist, Hugo87, Rote Laterne      
                  
A Yates: DJW                              
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 22, 2017, 22:21
Frequency of picks

The nine riders in bold are the Collective Wisdom team: I had to swap in Taaramae in place of Yates to keep it in budget.

34: NIBALI Vincenzo (on 81% of teams)
31: LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
19: BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto, ZAKARIN Ilnur
18:ALAPHILIPPE Julian
15: KRUIJSWIJK Steven
14:DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
11: MAS NICOLAU Enric, YATES Adam
10: POELS Wout
9: FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar, KELDERMAN Wilco, TAARAMÄE Rein
8: SCHWARZMANN Michael, SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
7: LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose
6: MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel, VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
5: ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor, DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David, FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben, NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
4: MAJKA Rafal, OLIVIER Daan, PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson
3: ANDERSEN Søren Kragh, BLYTHE Adam, BOARO Manuele, CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban, DE MARCHI Alessandro, MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian, NIBALI Antonio, OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe, ROCHE Nicolas, ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
2:AGNOLI Valerio,  BARDET Romain, BENEDETTI Cesare, CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto, DE CLERCQ Bart, FROOME Chris, HALLER Marco, HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus, JUNGELS Bob, MANZIN Lorrenzo, MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo, NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel, REYES ORTEGA Aldemar, RUBIO HERNANDEZ Diego, SAEZ BENITO Hector, TURGIS Jimmy

Unique picks indicated above.

Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 22, 2017, 22:24
Team Popularity

1   ThePirate81   156
2   Leadbelly   153
3   Del1962   150
4   Crevaison   149
5   Kazistuta   148
5   Minessa   148
7   Hugo87   143
8   Rote_Laterne   141
9   Joelsim   138
10   Laarsland   135
11   Squire   133
12   GodChild   132
13   Armchair_Cyclist   130
13   Hakkie2   130
15   ArchieBoy   129
16   Emma   127
16   Shalgo   127
18   LosBrolin   126
18   Search   126
20   Vladimir   122
21   Comodoro   120
22   EvansistheBest   119
23   GPBlanco   117
24   Kabete   116
24   LightBing   116
26   Fauniera   113
27   BikeRacer33   112
28   McLongan   109
29   DJW   106
30   BluesInTheBottle   100
31   Josedin   96
32   Yellow_Knight   95
33   Carlo_Algatrensig   89
34   AmisVelo   88
35   BicycleBoy   84
36   GeraintTooFast   83
37   JustSomeGuy   80
38   Trudgin   75
39   RattaKuningas   65
40   Scrool07   50
41   Hayabusa   49
42   Contadoome   35
   Collective_Wisdom   170
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 23, 2017, 02:33
Green Points 

The guaranteed points from stage finishes and leader bonuses that cannot be lost, even if the rider does not finish.

Stage 1

DENNIS Rohan   35   0   teams
CARUSO Damiano   17   0   teams
DE MARCHI Alessandro   17   3   teams
OSS Daniel   17   0   teams
ROCHE Nicolas   17   3   teams
VAN GARDEREN Tejay   17   0   teams
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   10   18   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   10   5   teams
JUNGELS Bob   10   2   teams
LAMPAERT Yves   10   0   teams
TRENTIN Matteo   10   0   teams
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   6   3   teams
BARGUIL Warren   6   0   teams
KÄMNA Lennard   6   1   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   6   9   teams
OOMEN Sam   6   1   teams
FROOME Chris   3   2   teams
MOSCON Gianni   3   0   teams
POELS Wout   3   10   teams
PUCCIO Salvatore   3   1   teams
STANNARD Ian   3   0   teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   2   3   teams
CORT NIELSEN Magnus   2   0   teams
HAIG Jack   2   1   teams
YATES Adam   2   11   teams
YATES Simon   2   0   teams
BENEDETTI Cesare   1   2   teams
BUCHMANN Emanuel   1   0   teams
DE CLERCQ Bart   1   2   teams
DEBUSSCHERE Jens   1   0   teams
KONRAD Patrick   1   0   teams
MAJKA Rafal   1   4   teams
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   1   0   teams
MONFORT Maxime   1   0   teams
POLJANSKI Pawel   1   1   teams
WALLAYS Jelle   1   1   teams

1   AmisVelo   38
2   Kabete   36
3   BikeRacer33   33
3   Laarsland   33
5   Hakkie2   31
6   Josedin   26
7   Comodoro   20
7   RattaKuningas   20
9   Del1962   19
9   Hayabusa   19
11   LightBing   16
12   Carlo_Algatrensig   13
12   Kazistuta   13
12   Minessa   13
15   DJW   12
15   GeraintTooFast   12
15   Hugo87   12
15   Rote_Laterne   12
15   Search   12
20   Yellow_Knight   11
21   Contadoome   10
21   Crevaison   10
21   EvansistheBest   10
21   LosBrolin   10
21   ThePirate81   10
26   Leadbelly   9
27   JustSomeGuy   7
28   ArchieBoy   6
28   BicycleBoy   6
28   GodChild   6
28   Vladimir   6
32   Armchair_Cyclist   5
33   Fauniera   4
33   McLongan   4
33   BluesInTheBottle   3
36   Joelsim   2
36   Scrool07   2
36   Squire   2
39   Emma   1
39   Trudgin   1
41   GPBlanco   0
41   Shalgo   0
   Collective_Wisdom   10

Stage 2

LAMPAERT Yves   88   0   teams
TRENTIN Matteo   40   0   teams
BLYTHE Adam   25   3   teams
THEUNS Edward   15   1   teams
MODOLO Sacha   10   0   teams
SCHWARZMANN Michael   7   8   teams
VAN ASBROECK Tom   5   0   teams
OSS Daniel   3   0   teams
KONRAD Patrick   2   0   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   1   34   teams


1   Kazistuta   26
1   McLongan   26
3   Hayabusa   25
4   Shalgo   16
5   ArchieBoy   8
5   BicycleBoy   8
5   BikeRacer33   8
5   Comodoro   8
5   Joelsim   8
5   LosBrolin   8
5   Yellow_Knight   8
12   DJW   7
13   24 Nibali teams   1

Stage 3

NIBALI Vincenzo   70   34   teams
FROOME Chris   43   2   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   40   5   teams
BARDET Romain   15   2   teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   10   3   teams
ARU Fabio   7   0   teams
ROCHE Nicolas   5   3   teams
VAN GARDEREN Tejay   3   0   teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico   2   0   teams
WOODS Michael   1   1   teams

1   BicycleBoy   113 (Nibali & Froome)
2   BikeRacer33, Carlo_Algatrensig, Yellow_Knight   110 (Nibali & De La Cruz)
5   AmisVelo   85 (Nibali, Chaves & Roche)
5   EvansistheBest, JustSomeGuy   85 (Nibali & Bardet)
8   Search   80 (Nibali & Chaves)
9   Laarsland   76 (Nibali, Roche & Woods)
10   Kabete   75 (Nibali & Roche)
11   24 more Nibali teams   70
35   GeraintTooFast   43
36   Josedin   40
36   RattaKuningas   40
38   Scrool07   10
39   BluesInTheBottle   0
39   Contadoome   0
39   DJW   0
39   Hayabusa   0

Stage 4

TRENTIN Matteo   70   0   teams
LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   40   7   teams
VAN ASBROECK Tom   25   0   teams
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
THEUNS Edward   15   1   teams
DEBUSSCHERE Jens   10   0   teams
MODOLO Sacha   7   0   teams
MANZIN Lorrenzo   5   2   teams
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   3   3   teams
REGUIGUI Youcef   2   0   teams
BOL Jetse   1   1   teams


1   Kabete   43 (Lobato & Andersen)
2   BluesInTheBottle, JustSomeGuy, Kazistuta, Scrool07, ThePirate81, Vladimir   40
8   Shalgo   20 (Theuns, Manzin)
9   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
13   Fauniera   5
11   GodChild, Laarsland   3
14   Crevaison   1
15   Everyone else   0

Standings in Green points after 4 stages
1   Kabete   155
2   BikeRacer33   151
3   Kazistuta   149
4   BicycleBoy   145
5   JustSomeGuy   133
6   Yellow_Knight   129
7   AmisVelo   124
7   Carlo_Algatrensig   124
9   ThePirate81   121
10   Vladimir   117
11   Laarsland   113
12   Shalgo   106
13   Hakkie2   102
14   McLongan   100
15   Comodoro   98
16   EvansistheBest   96
17   Search   93
18   Del1962   90
19   LosBrolin   88
20   LightBing   87
21   ArchieBoy   84
21   Minessa   84
23   Hugo87   83
23   Rote_Laterne   83
25   Crevaison   82
26   Fauniera   80
26   GodChild   80
26   Joelsim   80
26   Leadbelly   80
30   Armchair_Cyclist   76
31   GeraintTooFast   73
31   Squire   73
33   Emma   72
33   Trudgin   72
35   GPBlanco   71
36   Josedin   66
37   RattaKuningas   60
38   Scrool07   52
39   Hayabusa   44
40   BluesInTheBottle   43
41   DJW   19
42   Contadoome   10
   Collective_Wisdom   81

Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 23, 2017, 03:03
Red points

This is the main category: it is made up of the guaranteed points, plus the point for GC, points and KoM competitions as though the race was finishing with the most recent stage.  Large swings can happen, and negative points on the day are possible.

After 4 stages:
1   AmisVelo   1314 (Nibali, Roche, Chaves, Yates A)
2   BikeRacer33   1192 (De La Cruz, Nibali, Kelderman)
3   Carlo_Algatrensig   1120 (De La Cruz, Nibali, Yates A)
4   BicycleBoy   1092 (Froome, Nibali)
5   Laarsland   1080 (Nibali, Roche, Woods)
6   Yellow_Knight   987
7   Kabete   982
8   GeraintTooFast   974
9   Leadbelly   870
10   Squire   845
11   Shalgo   834
12   Search   824
13   Fauniera   802
14   Del1962   799
15   Armchair_Cyclist   793
16   Vladimir   786
17   ThePirate81   780
18   RattaKuningas   778
19   Kazistuta   764
20   Joelsim   754
21   ArchieBoy   750
22   JustSomeGuy   746
23   Rote_Laterne   745
24   Crevaison   739
25   LosBrolin   736
26   Minessa   732
27   EvansistheBest   728
28   Hugo87   721
29   McLongan   716
30   Josedin   706
31   LightBing   700
32   Hakkie2   695
33   GodChild   684
34   GPBlanco   677
35   Emma   665
36   Comodoro   593
37   Trudgin   586
38   Scrool07   504
39   BluesInTheBottle   463
40   DJW   451
41   Hayabusa   351
42   Contadoome   210
   Collective_Wisdom   719

Riders with 100 pts + from first 4 stages
1   FROOME Chris   581   2   teams
2   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   430   5   teams
3   NIBALI Vincenzo   351   34   teams
4   ROCHE Nicolas   342   3   teams
5   VAN GARDEREN Tejay   285   0   teams
6   CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   230   3   teams
7   TRENTIN Matteo   205   0   teams
8   ARU Fabio   197   0   teams
9   YATES Adam   167   11   teams
10   BARDET Romain   165   2   teams
11   YATES Simon   137   0   teams
12   LAMPAERT Yves   128   0   teams
13   WOODS Michael   121   1   teams
14   KELDERMAN Wilco   118   9   teams
15   BARGUIL Warren   110   0   teams

To give an idea of how points can be accumulated, Froome's score is made up of 500pts for 1st in GC, 36 for 2 days of leader's bonus, 28 from top ten placings on stages, 15 for 4th place in KoM standings, and 2 for 9th place in the points ranking.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 23, 2017, 21:34
Stage 5

Green points

There are a lot of breakaway riders named in squads for the game, but not many of them in the break...
LUTSENKO Alexey   70 pts but no team
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   40pts for    Shalgo
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   25   8 teams
FROOME Chris   18   2 teams
MOHORIC Matej   15   0 team
GOUGEARD Alexis   10   0 team
HALLER Marco   7   2 teams
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   5   18 teams
BOL Jetse   3   1 team
MAMYKIN Matvey   2   0 team
MAISON Jérémy   1   0 team


1   Shalgo   40
2   Rote_Laterne   37 (Soler, Haller and Alaphilippe)
3=   Josedin, RattaKuningas   30 (Soler and Allaphilippe)
5   BluesInTheBottle, Emma, GPBlanco, JustSomeGuy, Scrool07   25
10=   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
12   Comodoro   12
13   Crevaison   8
14=   Remaining Alaphilippe teams   5
14   The rest   0

Standings
1   BicycleBoy   163
2   Kabete   160
3   JustSomeGuy   158
4   Kazistuta   154
5   BikeRacer33   151
6   Shalgo   146
7   Yellow_Knight   129
8   ThePirate81   126
9   AmisVelo   124
9   Carlo_Algatrensig   124

Red Points

On the day
(For those new to these games, I'll list the bigger gains and losses of riders only if they have been selected: it includes the day's green points, but also accounts for rises and falls in the race-long classifications)

CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   97   3   teams
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   64   1   team
MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo   40   2   teams
BOL Jetse   35   1   team
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   28   8   teams
HAIG Jack   20   1   team
WOODS Michael   15   1   team
FROOME Chris   11   2   teams
...
THEUNS Edward   -10   1   team
GENIEZ Alexandre   -15   1   team
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   -18   1   team
NIBALI Vincenzo   -25   34   teams
BARDET Romain   -38   2   teams
ROCHE Nicolas   -53   3   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -138   5   teams


1   Scrool07   127
2   Search   76
3   Emma   47
4   Shalgo   31
5   ArchieBoy   25
6   BluesInTheBottle   21
7   AmisVelo   19
8   Crevaison   17
9   GeraintTooFast   15
10   Rote_Laterne   11
11   Contadoome   6
12   Hayabusa   4
13   GPBlanco   3
14   Fauniera   -2
15   DJW   -5
16   LightBing   -10
17   Trudgin   -13
18   Leadbelly   -15
19   BicycleBoy   -16
19   Minessa   -16
21   Del1962   -18
21   Vladimir   -18
23   ThePirate81   -19
24   Comodoro   -21
24   Joelsim   -21
26   Hugo87   -26
27   Squire   -27
28   Armchair_Cyclist   -29
28   GodChild   -29
28   Kazistuta   -29
31   LosBrolin   -31
32   Hakkie2   -37
33   JustSomeGuy   -38
34   McLongan   -42
35   EvansistheBest   -62
36   Laarsland   -64
37   Kabete   -83
38   Josedin   -101
39   RattaKuningas   -129
40   Carlo_Algatrensig   -155
40   Yellow_Knight   -155
42   BikeRacer33   -178
   Collective_Wisdom   -18


Standings

2 of the three teams with Chaves move into the top ten (Shalgo and Search), the other, Amis Velo, enjoys an extended lead.  His closest challengers yesterday, BikeRacer333 and Carlos Algatrensig, suffered De La Cruz's losses, so Bicycle Boy moves up to second.  Bicycle Boy and Geraint Too Fast, the two teams with Froome, are well positioned given the possible (likely?) 270 points to come from leader's bonuses.  Emma has the biggest rise of the day: 11 places.

1   AmisVelo   1333
2   BicycleBoy   1076
3   Laarsland   1016
4   BikeRacer33   1014
5   GeraintTooFast   989
6   Carlo_Algatrensig   965
7   Search   900
8   Kabete   899
9   Shalgo   865
10   Leadbelly   855
11   Yellow_Knight   832
12   Squire   818
13   Fauniera   800
14   Del1962   781
15   ArchieBoy   775
16   Vladimir   768
17   Armchair_Cyclist   764
18   ThePirate81   761
19   Crevaison   756
19   Rote_Laterne   756
21   Kazistuta   735
22   Joelsim   733
23   Minessa   716
24   Emma   712
25   JustSomeGuy   708
26   LosBrolin   705
27   Hugo87   695
28   LightBing   690
29   GPBlanco   680
30   McLongan   674
31   EvansistheBest   666
32   Hakkie2   658
33   GodChild   655
34   RattaKuningas   649
35   Scrool07   631
36   Josedin   605
37   Trudgin   573
38   Comodoro   572
39   BluesInTheBottle   484
40   DJW   446
41   Hayabusa   355
42   Contadoome   216
   Collective_Wisdom   701

Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 24, 2017, 18:25
Stage 6

Green points

Enric Mas is part of the Collective Wisdom team: the rest of the day's scorers are not widely picked.
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   70pts   0   team
POLJANSKI Pawel   40   1   team
MAS NICOLAU Enric   25   11   teams
FROOME Chris   21   2   teams
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   15   1   team
POLANC Jan   10   1   team
BARGUIL Warren   7   0   team
VISCONTI Giovanni   5   1   team
ARU Fabio   2   0   team
HAIG Jack   1   1   team

1   JustSomeGuy   65 (Poljanski and Mas)
2   Emma   30 (Mas and Visconti)
3   Fauniera   26 (Mas and Haig)
4=   Armchair_Cyclist, Crevaison, EvansistheBest, Hakkie2, Joelsim, Josedin, Kazistuta, Laarsland   25
12=   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   21
14   RattaKuningas   15
15   Hayabusa   10

1   JustSomeGuy   223
2   BicycleBoy   184
3   Kazistuta   179
4   Kabete   160
5   BikeRacer33   151
6   Shalgo   146
7   Laarsland   143
8   Hakkie2   132
9   Yellow_Knight   129
10   Emma   127


Red points

On the Day:
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   60   3   teams
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   51   1   team
ROCHE Nicolas   49   3   teams
POLJANSKI Pawel   42   1   team
FROOME Chris   31   2   teams
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   27   1   team
MAS NICOLAU Enric   25   11   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   25   34   teams
POLANC Jan   20   1   team
HAIG Jack   17   1   team
ROSA Diego   17   1   team
WOODS Michael   15   1   team
POELS Wout   14   10   teams
MAJKA Rafal   13   4   teams
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   12   1   team
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   12   2   teams
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   11   3   teams
VISCONTI Giovanni   10   1   team
...
GENIEZ Alexandre   -10   1   team
AGNOLI Valerio   -12   2   teams
MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo   -15   2   teams
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   -18   1   team
BOL Jetse   -26   1   team
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -27   5   teams
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   -59   19   teams
BARDET Romain   -70   2   teams


1   Kabete   141
2   AmisVelo   75
3   Fauniera   69
4   Laarsland   65
5   BicycleBoy   64
6   LosBrolin   62
7   Joelsim   61
8   Hakkie2   58
9   Contadoome   53
10   Hayabusa   48
11   GPBlanco   44
12   Vladimir   43
13   Trudgin   39
14   Hugo87   36
15   GodChild   35
16   McLongan   33
17   Comodoro   31
18   ArchieBoy   28
19   Squire   27
20   JustSomeGuy   25
20   LightBing   25
22   Scrool07   22
23   BluesInTheBottle   20
24   Search   16
25   Kazistuta   15
26   Armchair_Cyclist   14
27   Yellow_Knight   7
28   Carlo_Algatrensig   6
29   Leadbelly   -2
30   Josedin   -3
30   Minessa   -3
32   Emma   -7
33   Del1962   -10
34   GeraintTooFast   -12
35   Crevaison   -17
36   ThePirate81   -24
37   Rote_Laterne   -35
38   Shalgo   -39
39   BikeRacer33   -57
40   DJW   -65
41   RattaKuningas   -70
42   EvansistheBest   -77
   Collective_Wisdom   9


Standings

The top three all scored well today and retain their positions, but behind them Kabete has a strong 4 place rise, while a similar jump brings Fauniera into the top ten.  Los Brolin has a 7 place hike, the best of the day.

1   AmisVelo   1408
2   BicycleBoy   1140
3   Laarsland   1081
4   Kabete   1040
5   GeraintTooFast   977
6   Carlo_Algatrensig   971
7   BikeRacer33   957
8   Search   916
9   Fauniera   869
10   Leadbelly   853
11   Squire   845
12   Yellow_Knight   839
13   Shalgo   826
14   Vladimir   811
15   ArchieBoy   803
16   Joelsim   794
17   Armchair_Cyclist   778
18   Del1962   771
19   LosBrolin   767
20   Kazistuta   750
21   Crevaison   739
22   ThePirate81   737
23   JustSomeGuy   733
24   Hugo87   731
25   GPBlanco   724
26   Rote_Laterne   721
27   Hakkie2   716
28   LightBing   715
29   Minessa   713
30   McLongan   707
31   Emma   705
32   GodChild   690
33   Scrool07   653
34   Trudgin   612
35   Comodoro   603
36   Josedin   602
37   EvansistheBest   589
38   RattaKuningas   579
39   BluesInTheBottle   504
40   Hayabusa   403
41   DJW   381
42   Contadoome   269
   Collective_Wisdom   710
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 25, 2017, 16:55
Stage 7

Green points

Another day for the rare picks

MOHORIC Matej   70   0   team
POLJANSKI Pawel   40   1   team
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   25   3   teams
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
DE GENDT Thomas   15   0   team
DE MARCHI Alessandro   10   3   teams
DE TIER Floris   7   0   team
BOL Jetse   5   1   team
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel   3   0   team
PEREZ Anthony   2   0   team
COURTEILLE Arnaud   1   0   team


1   JustSomeGuy   40 (2nd day in a row, top courtesy of Poljanski)
2=   Contadoome, Hayabusa, Scrool07   25
5=   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
7=   AmisVelo, BikeRacer33, Hakkie2   10
10   Crevaison   5

1   JustSomeGuy   263
2   BicycleBoy   202
3   Kazistuta   179
4   BikeRacer33   161
5   Kabete   160
6   Shalgo   146
7   Laarsland   143
8   Hakkie2   142
9   AmisVelo   134
10   GeraintTooFast   130

Red points

Bol overtook 25 riders today, so 25 men lose points to accommodate his rise.

BOL Jetse   155   1   teams (Crevaison)
POLJANSKI Pawel   87   1   team
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   45   3   teams
DE MARCHI Alessandro   10   3   teams
...
MAJKA Rafal   -10   4   teams
MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo   -10   2   teams
ROSA Diego   -12   1   team
YATES Adam   -15   11   teams
WOODS Michael   -15   1   team
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   -23   1   team
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   -23   1   team
KELDERMAN Wilco   -24   9   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   -25   34   teams
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   -25   19   teams

In the 9 withdrawals before today, we only had one rider picked, and him just once as a cheap pick: Betancur's withdrawal hts 19 teams, and will have been seen as a hope for a decent yield.

1   Crevaison   99
2   JustSomeGuy   54
3   Hayabusa   39
4   Contadoome   22
5   Scrool07   15
6   Josedin   -20
7   BicycleBoy   -21
8   RattaKuningas   -26
9   BluesInTheBottle   -27
9   Trudgin   -27
11   Comodoro   -30
12   Hakkie2   -31
13   GodChild   -33
13   GPBlanco   -33
15   Yellow_Knight   -34
16   Carlo_Algatrensig   -40
17   Joelsim   -43
18   DJW   -44
19   Hugo87   -47
20   Fauniera   -48
20   Squire   -48
22   GeraintTooFast   -49
23   LightBing   -51
24   EvansistheBest   -54
25   McLongan   -55
25   Vladimir   -55
27   ThePirate81   -56
28   Kabete   -57
29   Search   -58
30   ArchieBoy   -59
30   Emma   -59
32   AmisVelo   -60
33   Kazistuta   -62
34   Minessa   -65
35   Rote_Laterne   -67
36   LosBrolin   -71
37   Laarsland   -72
38   BikeRacer33   -73
39   Armchair_Cyclist   -80
40   Del1962   -86
40   Leadbelly   -86
40   Shalgo   -86
   Collective_Wisdom   -56

Standings
Carlos Algatrensig is the highest place mover, but not far behind him, and soaring into the top ten as highest (12 spot) riser of the day is Crevaison.

1   AmisVelo   1348
2   BicycleBoy   1119
3   Laarsland   1009
4   Kabete   983
5   Carlo_Algatrensig   931
6   GeraintTooFast   928
7   BikeRacer33   884
8   Search   858
9   Crevaison   838
10   Fauniera   821
11   Yellow_Knight   805
12   Squire   797
13   JustSomeGuy   787
14   Leadbelly   767
15   Vladimir   756
16   Joelsim   751
17   ArchieBoy   744
18   Shalgo   740
19   Armchair_Cyclist   698
20   LosBrolin   696
21   GPBlanco   691
22   Kazistuta   688
23   Del1962   685
23   Hakkie2   685
25   Hugo87   684
26   ThePirate81   681
27   Scrool07   668
28   LightBing   664
29   GodChild   657
30   Rote_Laterne   654
31   McLongan   652
32   Minessa   648
33   Emma   646
34   Trudgin   585
35   Josedin   582
36   Comodoro   573
37   RattaKuningas   553
38   EvansistheBest   535
39   BluesInTheBottle   477
40   Hayabusa   442
41   DJW   337
42   Contadoome   291
   Collective_Wisdom   654

Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 26, 2017, 20:44
Stage 8

Green points
First time since stage 3 that anyone has the stage winner in their team, and he was a popular one

ALAPHILIPPE Julian   70   18   teams
POLANC Jan   40   1   team
MAJKA Rafal   25   4   teams
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
PAUWELS Serge   15   0   team
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes   10   0   team
KREDER Michel   7   0   team
MONFORT Maxime   5   0   team
DE CLERCQ Bart   3   2   teams
LOSADA ALGUACIL Alberto   2   0   team
BUCHMANN Emanuel   1   0   team

1   Hakkie2   73 (Alaphilippe and De Clercq)
2=   Seventeen Alaphilippe teams   70
19   Hayabusa   40
20   McLongan   28
21=   BluesInTheBottle, LosBrolin, Yellow_Knight   25
24=   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18

1   JustSomeGuy   263
2   Kazistuta   249
3   Kabete   230
4   BicycleBoy   220
5   Hakkie2   215
6   Laarsland   213
7   EvansistheBest   196
7   ThePirate81   196
9   Josedin   191
10   Crevaison   190

Red points

POLANC Jan   104   1   team
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   88   18   teams
MAJKA Rafal   49   4   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   23   19   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   22   2   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   17   34   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   16   9   teams
FROOME Chris   15   2   teams
YATES Adam   15   11   teams
WOODS Michael   15   1   team
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   12   31   teams
POELS Wout   12   10   teams...
...
ROSA Diego   -11   1   team
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   -12   1   team
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   -14   5   teams
BENEDETTI Cesare   -15   2   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -25   5   teams
HAIG Jack   -48   1   team
BOL Jetse   -116   1   team



1   Minessa   159
2   LightBing   150
3   Del1962   145
4   Hakkie2   144
5   Hayabusa   139
6   Kabete   135
7   Hugo87   132
7   Laarsland   132
7   Rote_Laterne   132
10   Kazistuta   129
11   Search   127
12   ThePirate81   126
13   EvansistheBest   125
14   DJW   121
15   Comodoro   117
16   Contadoome   112
17   LosBrolin   106
18   McLongan   102
19   BluesInTheBottle   99
20   Josedin   86
21   Leadbelly   80
22   Vladimir   68
23   Joelsim   67
23   Yellow_Knight   67
25   ArchieBoy   63
25   Armchair_Cyclist   63
27   Squire   59
28   GodChild   58
29   GPBlanco   56
30   GeraintTooFast   55
31   Trudgin   47
32   RattaKuningas   40
33   Shalgo   33
34   BicycleBoy   32
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   30
36   Emma   29
37   Crevaison   24
38   BikeRacer33   23
39   Fauniera   19
40   AmisVelo   18
41   JustSomeGuy   13
42   Scrool07   -12
   Collective_Wisdom   140

Standings

The only team in yesterday's top ten to have moved up at all is Search (from 8th to 5th), but Yellow Knight moves up a couple of places into the top ten.  Farther down the table, big rises for Del (9 places) and Hakkie (8), are overshadowed by the 11 place rise of the day's top scorer, Minessa.

1   AmisVelo   1366
2   BicycleBoy   1151
3   Laarsland   1141
4   Kabete   1118
5   Search   985
6   GeraintTooFast   983
7   Carlo_Algatrensig   961
8   BikeRacer33   907
9   Yellow_Knight   872
10   Crevaison   862
11   Squire   856
12   Leadbelly   847
13   Fauniera   840
14   Del1962   830
15   Hakkie2   829
16   Vladimir   824
17   Joelsim   818
18   Kazistuta   817
19   Hugo87   816
20   LightBing   814
21   ArchieBoy   807
21   Minessa   807
21   ThePirate81   807
24   LosBrolin   802
25   JustSomeGuy   800
26   Rote_Laterne   786
27   Shalgo   773
28   Armchair_Cyclist   761
29   McLongan   754
30   GPBlanco   747
31   GodChild   715
32   Comodoro   690
33   Emma   675
34   Josedin   668
35   EvansistheBest   660
36   Scrool07   656
37   Trudgin   632
38   RattaKuningas   593
39   Hayabusa   581
40   BluesInTheBottle   576
41   DJW   458
42   Contadoome   403
   Collective_Wisdom   794
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 27, 2017, 21:57
Stage 9

Green points
In the Giro and the Tour, the overall winners were not widely chosen, and the teams that had eventual winners did not win the game.  It is now looking likely that teams with the overall winner will win the game, but then my record of predictions isn't great.

FROOME Chris   88   2   teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   40   3   teams
WOODS Michael   25   1   team
KELDERMAN Wilco   15   9   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   10   19   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   7   2   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   5   5   teams
OOMEN Sam   3   1   team
ROCHE Nicolas   2   3   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   1   34   teams

1   GeraintTooFast   103
2   BicycleBoy   89
3   AmisVelo   43
4   Search   41
5   Scrool07   40
6   Laarsland   28
7=   ArchieBoy, Leadbelly, LightBing, Vladimir   26
11   BikeRacer33   21
12   Josedin   20
13   Trudgin   18
14=   Carlo_Algatrensig, Del1962, LosBrolin, Yellow_Knight   16
18=   Crevaison, Emma, Fauniera, GodChild, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Minessa, Shalgo, Squire, ThePirate81   11
28   BluesInTheBottle, Hayabusa   10
30   Contadoome   7
31   RattaKuningas   5
32   JustSomeGuy   4
33   Kabete   3
34=   Armchair_Cyclist, Comodoro, EvansistheBest, Hakkie2, Hugo87, Kazistuta, McLongan, Rote_Laterne   1
42   DJW   0
   Collective_Wisdom   11

And because it's a rest day tomorrow and nearly everybody got Green points today, here is the full standings rather than ust the top ten.

1   BicycleBoy   309
2   JustSomeGuy   267
3   GeraintTooFast   251
4   Kazistuta   250
5   Laarsland   241
6   Kabete   233
7   Hakkie2   216
8   Josedin   211
9   Search   209
10   ThePirate81   207
11   Crevaison   201
12   EvansistheBest   197
13   Rote_Laterne   191
14   LightBing   188
15   BikeRacer33   182
16   Comodoro   181
16   Del1962   181
18   RattaKuningas   180
19   AmisVelo   177
20   Minessa   170
20   Yellow_Knight   170
22   Hugo87   159
23   Shalgo   157
24   Vladimir   143
25   Scrool07   142
26   Carlo_Algatrensig   140
27   Emma   138
28   Hayabusa   129
28   LosBrolin   129
28   McLongan   129
31   Contadoome   117
31   Fauniera   117
33   Joelsim   116
34   ArchieBoy   110
35   GPBlanco   107
36   Leadbelly   106
37   BluesInTheBottle   103
38   Armchair_Cyclist   102
39   DJW   94
40   GodChild   91
41   Trudgin   90
42   Squire   84
   Collective_Wisdom   192

Red points

Although it was a stage for the GC men, there was not much change in those high GC positions, but Froome moves up a lot in the points and climber rankings.

On the day
FROOME Chris   176   2   teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   53   3   teams
WOODS Michael   40   1   team
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   33   2   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   31   5   teams
OOMEN Sam   31   1   team
KELDERMAN Wilco   23   9   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   18   31   teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   12   15   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   10   19   teams
...
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   -13   18   teams
POLJANSKI Pawel   -13   1   team
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   -14   1   team
YATES Adam   -15   11   teams
POLANC Jan   -21   1   team

1   GeraintTooFast   223
2   BicycleBoy   189
3   BikeRacer33   75
4   Leadbelly   70
5   Vladimir   64
6   Josedin   60
6   Laarsland   60
8   Scrool07   59
8   Search   59
10   ArchieBoy   58
11   LosBrolin   57
12   Del1962   47
13   Trudgin   46
14   AmisVelo   43
15   Shalgo   41
16   GodChild   39
16   GPBlanco   39
18   Yellow_Knight   35
19   Contadoome   30
20   Carlo_Algatrensig   27
20   JustSomeGuy   27
22   Emma   26
22   Minessa   26
24   Hakkie2   24
24   Kazistuta   24
26   Comodoro   20
26   Crevaison   20
26   Fauniera   20
29   LightBing   19
30   ThePirate81   18
31   Armchair_Cyclist   14
31   Joelsim   14
31   Squire   14
34   BluesInTheBottle   12
34   EvansistheBest   12
36   RattaKuningas   9
37   Kabete   6
38   Hugo87   3
38   McLongan   3
40   Hayabusa   -1
41   Rote_Laterne   -7
42   DJW   -12
   Collective_Wisdom   28

Standings

The two Proome teams are now on the podium steps after Geraint's 3 place rise.  A similar jump brings Leadbelly into the top ten, but it is Los Brolin who has the biggest step forward (7 places) today. 

1   AmisVelo   1409
2   BicycleBoy   1340
3   GeraintTooFast   1206
4   Laarsland   1201
5   Kabete   1124
6   Search   1044
7   Carlo_Algatrensig   988
8   BikeRacer33   982
9   Leadbelly   917
10   Yellow_Knight   907
11   Vladimir   888
12   Crevaison   882
13   Del1962   877
14   Squire   870
15   ArchieBoy   865
16   Fauniera   860
17   LosBrolin   859
18   Hakkie2   853
19   Kazistuta   841
20   LightBing   833
20   Minessa   833
22   Joelsim   832
23   JustSomeGuy   827
24   ThePirate81   825
25   Hugo87   819
26   Shalgo   814
27   GPBlanco   786
28   Rote_Laterne   779
29   Armchair_Cyclist   775
30   McLongan   757
31   GodChild   754
32   Josedin   728
33   Scrool07   715
34   Comodoro   710
35   Emma   701
36   Trudgin   678
37   EvansistheBest   672
38   RattaKuningas   602
39   BluesInTheBottle   588
40   Hayabusa   580
41   DJW   446
42   Contadoome   433
   Collective_Wisdom   822
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 30, 2017, 12:40
Stage 10 Sorry it is late

Green points

We really haven't been very successful in breakaway picks for this race...

TRENTIN Matteo   70   0   team
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   40   3   teams
ROSON GARCIA Jaime   25   1   team
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques   15   1   team
GENIEZ Alexandre   10   1   team
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   7   8   teams
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   5   1   team
DE MARCHI Alessandro   3   3   teams
COURTEILLE Arnaud   2   0   team
REIS Rafael Ferreira   1   0   team

1   Scrool07   47
2=   Contadoome, Hayabusa   40
4   GPBlanco   32
5=   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
7   LightBing   15
8   BikeRacer33   13
9   RattaKuningas   12
10   BluesInTheBottle, Emma, Josedin, JustSomeGuy, Rote_Laterne   7
15   AmisVelo, Hakkie2   3

Standings
1   BicycleBoy   327
2   JustSomeGuy   274
3   GeraintTooFast   269
4   Kazistuta   250
5   Laarsland   241
6   Kabete   233
7   Hakkie2   219
8   Josedin   218
9   Search   209
10   ThePirate81   207


Red points
Despite Roche's best efforts, little difference in the main rankings, although Froome drops in the points rankings as Trentin takes green jersey by right.

ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   77   3   teams
ROSON GARCIA Jaime   39   1   team
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   25   1   team
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques   15   1   team
GENIEZ Alexandre   12   1   team
HAIG Jack   12   1   team
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   12   2   teams
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   12   5   teams
...
MAJKA Rafal   -11   4   teams
FROOME Chris   -12   2   teams
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   -12   1   team
BARDET Romain   -16   2   teams
BOL Jetse   -20   1   team
POLANC Jan   -33   1   team

1   Contadoome   94
2   Scrool07   67
3   GPBlanco   60
4   RattaKuningas   43
5   Hayabusa   42
6   BikeRacer33   30
7   Squire   29
8   Shalgo   20
9   Josedin   18
10   LightBing   17
11   Fauniera   16
12   GodChild   14
12   ThePirate81   14
14   ArchieBoy   12
15   Minessa   11
16   DJW   10
16   Hakkie2   10
18   AmisVelo   9
19   Leadbelly   8
19   Rote_Laterne   8
19   Vladimir   8
22   Armchair_Cyclist   6
22   Del1962   6
22   Hugo87   6
22   Kazistuta   6
22   Laarsland   6
27   Emma   5
28   Comodoro   4
28   Joelsim   4
28   Trudgin   4
31   Kabete   3
32   BluesInTheBottle   1
32   GeraintTooFast   1
34   Search   0
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   -3
35   LosBrolin   -3
37   BicycleBoy   -10
38   McLongan   -12
39   Crevaison   -14
39   EvansistheBest   -14
39   Yellow_Knight   -14
42   JustSomeGuy   -17
   Collective_Wisdom   6

Standings
Relatively modest gains and losses today, but still some movement: Laarsland gets Geraint to shuffle along and share his podium spot, Squire has a 4 place jump into the top ten, GPBlanco is riser of the day with 6 spots, and top scorer of the day, Contadoome, gets off the bottom.

1   AmisVelo   1418
2   BicycleBoy   1330
3   GeraintTooFast   1207
3   Laarsland   1207
5   Kabete   1127
6   Search   1044
7   BikeRacer33   1012
8   Carlo_Algatrensig   985
9   Leadbelly   925
10   Squire   899
11   Vladimir   896
12   Yellow_Knight   893
13   Del1962   883
14   ArchieBoy   877
15   Fauniera   876
16   Crevaison   868
17   Hakkie2   863
18   LosBrolin   856
19   LightBing   850
20   Kazistuta   847
21   GPBlanco   846
22   Minessa   844
23   ThePirate81   839
24   Joelsim   836
25   Shalgo   834
26   Hugo87   825
27   JustSomeGuy   810
28   Rote_Laterne   787
29   Scrool07   782
30   Armchair_Cyclist   781
31   GodChild   768
32   Josedin   746
33   McLongan   745
34   Comodoro   714
35   Emma   706
36   Trudgin   682
37   EvansistheBest   658
38   RattaKuningas   645
39   Hayabusa   622
40   BluesInTheBottle   589
41   Contadoome   527
42   DJW   456
   Collective_Wisdom   828

Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 30, 2017, 18:07
Stage 11

Green points
Not often that all of the top ten have made it onto at least one team in the game.

LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   70   31   teams
FROOME Chris   58   2   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   25   34   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   15   9   teams
BARDET Romain   10   2   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   7   2   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   5   19   teams
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   3   2   teams
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   2   1   team
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   1   5   teams

1   GeraintTooFast   143 (Lopez, Froome and Kelderman)
2=   ArchieBoy, Leadbelly, Vladimir   115
5   BikeRacer33   114
6=   Del1962, LosBrolin   110
8   EvansistheBest   105
9=   Crevaison, Emma, Fauniera, GodChild, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Minessa, Shalgo, Squire, ThePirate81   100
19   Kabete   97
20=   Armchair_Cyclist, Comodoro, Hakkie2, Hugo87, Kazistuta, Laarsland, McLongan, Rote_Laterne, Search   95
29   Josedin   86
30   BicycleBoy   83
31   BluesInTheBottle   75
32   DJW   70
33   LightBing   45
34   Trudgin   37
35   JustSomeGuy   35
36   Carlo_Algatrensig, Yellow_Knight   31
38   AmisVelo   25
39   Contadoome   10
40   Hayabusa   5
41   RattaKuningas   1
42   Scrool07   0
   Collective_Wisdom   100

1   GeraintTooFast   412
2   BicycleBoy   410
3   Kazistuta   345
4   Laarsland   336
5   Kabete   330
6   Hakkie2   314
7   BikeRacer33   309
7   JustSomeGuy   309
9   ThePirate81   307
10   Josedin   304
10   Search   304


Red points

Mayhem

NIBALI Vincenzo   155   34   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   135   9   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   117   31   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   85   19   teams
FROOME Chris   73   2   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   54   5   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   53   2   teams
BARDET Romain   35   2   teams
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   29   1   team
...
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   -20   3   teams
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   -20   1   team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -64   3   teams
YATES Adam   -84   11   teams
ROCHE Nicolas   -195   3   teams


Carnage

1   Leadbelly   512
2   Vladimir   504
3   ArchieBoy   501
4   BikeRacer33   470
5   Del1962   426
6   LosBrolin   418
7   LightBing   388
8   GodChild   383
9   Minessa   370
10   Shalgo   369
11   GPBlanco   363
12   Emma   359
13   ThePirate81   356
14   Crevaison   349
15   GeraintTooFast   337
16   Josedin   308
17   EvansistheBest   306
18   Hakkie2   302
19   Kazistuta   291
19   Squire   291
21   Fauniera   289
21   Trudgin   289
23   Yellow_Knight   285
24   Comodoro   283
25   Joelsim   273
26   BicycleBoy   240
27   Carlo_Algatrensig   210
28   Search   209
29   Hugo87   199
30   Armchair_Cyclist   198
31   Rote_Laterne   191
32   McLongan   176
33   JustSomeGuy   163
34   BluesInTheBottle   113
34   Kabete   113
36   Laarsland   88
37   RattaKuningas   66
38   Hayabusa   54
39   DJW   46
40   Contadoome   40
41   Scrool07   -100
42   AmisVelo   -188
   Collective_Wisdom   368


Standings
This morning's leader, Amis Velo, suffered the triple whammy of Roche, Yates and Chaves, came last on the day, and falls down to 13th.  The two Froome teams are now first and second, and if he remains in red, it is hard to see them being caught.  Bikeracer is best of the rest on the back of a 4 place rise, but the other teams on the rise in the top ten (Leadbelly, Vladimir, Archieboy, Del and Los Brolim) all had bigger rises, with Los Brolin having the biggest of all (9 places).

1   BicycleBoy   1570
2   GeraintTooFast   1544
3   BikeRacer33   1482
4   Leadbelly   1437
5   Vladimir   1400
6   ArchieBoy   1378
7   Del1962   1309
8   Laarsland   1295
9   LosBrolin   1274
10   Search   1253
11   Kabete   1240
12   LightBing   1238
13   AmisVelo   1230
14   Crevaison   1217
15   Minessa   1214
16   GPBlanco   1209
17   Shalgo   1203
18   Carlo_Algatrensig   1195
18   ThePirate81   1195
20   Squire   1190
21   Yellow_Knight   1178
22   Fauniera   1165
22   Hakkie2   1165
24   GodChild   1151
25   Kazistuta   1138
26   Joelsim   1109
27   Emma   1065
28   Josedin   1054
29   Hugo87   1024
30   Comodoro   997
31   Armchair_Cyclist   979
32   Rote_Laterne   978
33   JustSomeGuy   973
34   Trudgin   971
35   EvansistheBest   964
36   McLongan   921
37   RattaKuningas   711
38   BluesInTheBottle   702
39   Scrool07   682
40   Hayabusa   676
41   Contadoome   567
42   DJW   502
   Collective_Wisdom   1196
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 31, 2017, 23:21
Stage 12

Green points

We are living in strange times: Rojas beats Fraile to breakaway mountain points, and Fraile outsprints him in return.

MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   70   0   team
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   40   9   teams
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   25   3   teams
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
POLJANSKI Pawel   15   1   team
CLEMENT Stef   10   0   teams
CANTY Brendan   7   0   team
PEREZ Anthony   5   0   team
POLANC Jan   3   1   team
SCHILLINGER Andreas   2   0   team
ARROYO DURAN David   1   1   team

1   Hayabusa   68
2   Armchair_Cyclist   41
3=   ArchieBoy, DJW, GodChild, Hugo87, Josedin, Rote_Laterne, ThePirate81   40
10=   Contadoome, Scrool07   25
12=   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
14   JustSomeGuy   15

1   GeraintTooFast   430
2   BicycleBoy   428
3   ThePirate81   347
4   Kazistuta   345
5   Josedin   344
6   Laarsland   336
7   Rote_Laterne   333
8   Kabete   330
9   JustSomeGuy   324
10   Hakkie2   314

Red points
In contrast to yesterday, very little happening...

ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   77   3   teams
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   40   9   teams
POLJANSKI Pawel   30   1   team
POLANC Jan   17   1   team
...
HAIG Jack   -10   1   team
ARCAS PEÑA Jorge   -15   1   team
BENNETT George   -15   1   team
HOFSTEDE Lennard   -15   1   team
NIBALI Vincenzo   -18   34   teams


1   Hayabusa   125
2   Contadoome   73
2   Scrool07   73
4   Josedin   34
5   ArchieBoy   24
6   DJW   16
7   ThePirate81   15
8   JustSomeGuy   13
9   Hugo87   11
10   GodChild   8
11   Rote_Laterne   6
12   Armchair_Cyclist   4
13   GeraintTooFast   -8
14   BluesInTheBottle   -12
15   BicycleBoy   -15
16   LightBing   -18
16   Yellow_Knight   -18
18   RattaKuningas   -19
18   Vladimir   -19
20   Laarsland   -21
21   Comodoro   -22
21   GPBlanco   -22
23   BikeRacer33   -23
23   EvansistheBest   -23
23   McLongan   -23
23   Shalgo   -23
27   Crevaison   -25
27   Emma   -25
27   Hakkie2   -25
27   LosBrolin   -25
31   Search   -26
32   Joelsim   -27
32   Leadbelly   -27
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   -28
35   Del1962   -29
35   Kazistuta   -29
37   Squire   -31
38   Trudgin   -32
39   AmisVelo   -33
39   Minessa   -33
41   Kabete   -35
42   Fauniera   -36


Standings

The only move in the top ten is Archie passing Vladimir.  Despite the very modest scores, The Pirate somehow manages a 6 place jump.
1   BicycleBoy   1555
2   GeraintTooFast   1536
3   BikeRacer33   1459
4   Leadbelly   1410
5   ArchieBoy   1402
6   Vladimir   1381
7   Del1962   1280
8   Laarsland   1274
9   LosBrolin   1249
10   Search   1227
11   LightBing   1220
12   ThePirate81   1210
13   Kabete   1205
14   AmisVelo   1197
15   Crevaison   1192
16   GPBlanco   1187
17   Minessa   1181
18   Shalgo   1180
19   Carlo_Algatrensig   1167
20   Yellow_Knight   1160
21   GodChild   1159
21   Squire   1159
23   Hakkie2   1140
24   Fauniera   1129
25   Kazistuta   1109
26   Josedin   1088
27   Joelsim   1082
28   Emma   1040
29   Hugo87   1035
30   JustSomeGuy   986
31   Rote_Laterne   984
32   Armchair_Cyclist   983
33   Comodoro   975
34   EvansistheBest   941
35   Trudgin   939
36   McLongan   898
37   Hayabusa   801
38   Scrool07   755
39   RattaKuningas   692
40   BluesInTheBottle   690
41   Contadoome   640
42   DJW   518
   Collective_Wisdom   1175
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 01, 2017, 22:38
Stage 13

Green points

The GC guys got in among the sprinters, which increased the points yield from the stage:
TRENTIN Matteo   70   0   teams
MOSCON Gianni   40   0   teams
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   25   3   teams
FROOME Chris   23   2   teams
SCHWARZMANN Michael   15   8   teams
VAN ASBROECK Tom   10   0   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   7   34   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   3   9   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   2   2   teams
ROCHE Nicolas   1   3   teams

1   BicycleBoy   45 (Froome, Schwartzman and Nibali)
2=   Kabete, Laarsland   33 (Kragh Andersen, Nibali and Roche)
4   GodChild   32
5   GeraintTooFast   26
6=   ArchieBoy, BikeRacer33, LosBrolin   25
9=   Comodoro, Joelsim, Yellow_Knight   22
12   DJW   15
13=   Del1962, Leadbelly, LightBing, Vladimir   10
17   Trudgin   9
18   AmisVelo   8
19=   Nibalists   7
37   Josedin   3
38   Contadoome   2

BB is back on top
1   BicycleBoy   473
2   GeraintTooFast   456
3   Laarsland   369
4   Kabete   363
5   ThePirate81   354
6   Kazistuta   352
7   Josedin   347
8   Rote_Laterne   340
9   BikeRacer33   334
10   JustSomeGuy   331


Red points

KELDERMAN Wilco   28   9   teams
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   25   3   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   25   34   teams
FROOME Chris   23   2   teams
SCHWARZMANN Michael   15   8   teams
...
POLJANSKI Pawel   -10   1   teams
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   -15   9   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -26   5   teams


1   LosBrolin   65
2   BicycleBoy   63
3   ArchieBoy   53
3   Del1962   53
3   GeraintTooFast   53
3   Leadbelly   53
3   LightBing   53
3   Vladimir   53
9   Laarsland   51
10   Kabete   46
11   Comodoro   40
11   Joelsim   40
13   BikeRacer33   38
14   GodChild   35
15   Trudgin   29
16   AmisVelo   27
16   GPBlanco   27
16   Minessa   27
16   Squire   27
20   Search   26
21   Emma   25
21   EvansistheBest   25
21   Hakkie2   25
21   Kazistuta   25
21   Shalgo   25
26   Crevaison   23
27   Fauniera   22
27   McLongan   22
29   JustSomeGuy   15
30   Yellow_Knight   11
31   Armchair_Cyclist   10
31   Hugo87   10
31   Rote_Laterne   10
31   ThePirate81   10
35   DJW   0
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   -1
37   BluesInTheBottle   -3
38   Scrool07   -4
39   Contadoome   -7
40   Josedin   -13
41   Hayabusa   -21
42   RattaKuningas   -22
   Collective_Wisdom   25


Standings

Very little movement today: Lightbing overtaking Search is the highest movement, and the only top ten entry: Comodoro finally found enough points difference to rise three places.

1   BicycleBoy   1618
2   GeraintTooFast   1589
3   BikeRacer33   1497
4   Leadbelly   1463
5   ArchieBoy   1455
6   Vladimir   1434
7   Del1962   1333
8   Laarsland   1325
9   LosBrolin   1314
10   LightBing   1273
11   Search   1253
12   Kabete   1251
13   AmisVelo   1224
14   ThePirate81   1220
15   Crevaison   1215
16   GPBlanco   1214
17   Minessa   1208
18   Shalgo   1205
19   GodChild   1194
20   Squire   1186
21   Yellow_Knight   1171
22   Carlo_Algatrensig   1166
23   Hakkie2   1165
24   Fauniera   1151
25   Kazistuta   1134
26   Joelsim   1122
27   Josedin   1075
28   Emma   1065
29   Hugo87   1045
30   Comodoro   1015
31   JustSomeGuy   1001
32   Rote_Laterne   994
33   Armchair_Cyclist   993
34   Trudgin   968
35   EvansistheBest   966
36   McLongan   920
37   Hayabusa   780
38   Scrool07   751
39   BluesInTheBottle   687
40   RattaKuningas   670
41   Contadoome   633
42   DJW   518
   Collective_Wisdom   1200

Tomorrow is more likely to have something to justify the update.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 02, 2017, 18:31
Stage 14

Green points

Nearly all of these were chosen, nearly every team scored

MAJKA Rafal   70   4   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   40   31   teams
FROOME Chris   33   2   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   25   34   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   10   19   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   7   9   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   5   2   teams
POELS Wout   3   10   teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   2   3   teams
ARU Fabio   1   0   team

1   LosBrolin   145 Majka, Lopez, Nibali, Keldermanand Poels)
2   McLongan   135
3   BluesInTheBottle   120
4   Yellow_Knight   105
5   Leadbelly   85
6   GeraintTooFast   83
7   ArchieBoy, Vladimir   82
9   Minessa   78
10   Crevaison, Del1962, Emma, Fauniera, GodChild, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Shalgo, Squire, ThePirate81   75
20   BikeRacer33   72
21   Armchair_Cyclist, Hakkie2, Kabete, Kazistuta   68
25   Search   67
26   Comodoro, EvansistheBest, Hugo87, Laarsland, Rote_Laterne   65
31   BicycleBoy   58
32   Josedin   47
33   LightBing   42
34   DJW, Trudgin   40
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   35
37   AmisVelo   27
38   JustSomeGuy   25
39   Hayabusa   13
40   Contadoome   5
41   Scrool07   2
42   RattaKuningas   0
   Collective_Wisdom   75

1   GeraintTooFast   539
2   BicycleBoy   531
3   Laarsland   434
4   Kabete   431
5   ThePirate81   429
6   Kazistuta   420
7   LosBrolin   409
8   BikeRacer33   406
9   Rote_Laterne   405
10   Josedin   394


Red points

MAJKA Rafal   120   4   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   60   19   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   58   9   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   54   31   teams
POELS Wout   27   10   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   25   34   teams
FROOME Chris   23   2   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   20   2   teams
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   10   6   teams
...
WOODS Michael   -15   1   team
ROCHE Nicolas   -16   3   teams
YATES Adam   -18   11   teams
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   -21   3   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -50   5   teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -74   3   teams
OOMEN Sam   -104   1   team


1   LosBrolin   290
2   Leadbelly   230
3   BluesInTheBottle   216
4   Vladimir   203
5   ArchieBoy   195
6   McLongan   190
7   Del1962   170
8   Minessa   162
9   GeraintTooFast   156
10   GodChild   155
10   Yellow_Knight   155
12   LightBing   153
13   Shalgo   149
14   ThePirate81   143
15   GPBlanco   141
16   Crevaison   139
17   Emma   137
18   Hakkie2   131
19   Squire   129
20   Joelsim   121
21   Fauniera   115
22   Kazistuta   112
23   Trudgin   107
24   Comodoro   91
25   Armchair_Cyclist   90
26   BikeRacer33   89
27   EvansistheBest   87
28   Kabete   81
29   Hayabusa   68
30   Hugo87   67
31   Rote_Laterne   61
32   Josedin   56
33   BicycleBoy   54
33   Laarsland   54
35   DJW   46
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   17
37   Search   7
38   Contadoome   5
39   RattaKuningas   -27
40   JustSomeGuy   -71
41   AmisVelo   -79
42   Scrool07   -91
   Collective_Wisdom   145

Standings
You would have to go down as far as 29th to find a team in the same position as this morning.  Geraint takes over 100 points out of his fellow Froomian BicycleBoy, and Leadbelly gets onto the podium and in between them.  No new entries to the top ten, but Los Brolin moves up 3 places within it.  Minessa had a 6 place rise to just outside the top ten: McLongan equals his leap, but in more modest parts of the table.

1   GeraintTooFast   1745
2   Leadbelly   1693
3   BicycleBoy   1672
4   ArchieBoy   1650
5   Vladimir   1637
6   LosBrolin   1604
7   BikeRacer33   1586
8   Del1962   1503
9   LightBing   1426
10   Laarsland   1379
11   Minessa   1370
12   ThePirate81   1363
13   GPBlanco   1355
14   Crevaison   1354
14   Shalgo   1354
16   GodChild   1349
17   Kabete   1332
18   Yellow_Knight   1326
19   Squire   1315
20   Hakkie2   1296
21   Fauniera   1266
22   Search   1260
23   Kazistuta   1246
24   Joelsim   1243
25   Emma   1202
26   Carlo_Algatrensig   1183
27   AmisVelo   1145
28   Josedin   1131
29   Hugo87   1112
30   McLongan   1110
31   Comodoro   1106
32   Armchair_Cyclist   1083
33   Trudgin   1075
34   Rote_Laterne   1055
35   EvansistheBest   1053
36   JustSomeGuy   930
37   BluesInTheBottle   903
38   Hayabusa   848
39   Scrool07   660
40   RattaKuningas   643
41   Contadoome   638
42   DJW   564
   Collective_Wisdom   1345
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 03, 2017, 22:35
Stage 15

Green points
Again, a mountain stage with no break makes for big points:

LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   70   31   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   40   19   teams
FROOME Chris   28   2   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   25   9   teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   15   3   teams
WOODS Michael   7   1   team
NIBALI Vincenzo   5   34   teams
POELS Wout   3   10   teams
MEINTJES Louis   2   0   team
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   1   0   team

1   Leadbelly   143
2   ArchieBo, Vladimir   140
4   GeraintTooFast   126
5   Minessa   118
6   Crevaison, Emma, Fauniera, GodChild, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Shalgo, Squire, ThePirate81   115
15   BluesInTheBottle   110
16   Del1962, LosBrolin   103
18   BikeRacer33   100
19   Josedin   95
20   Search   90
21   Laarsland   82
22   Armchair_Cyclist, Hakkie2, Kabete, Kazistuta   78
26   Comodoro, EvansistheBest, Hugo87, McLongan, Rote_Laterne   75
31   DJW, LightBing   70
33   Carlo_Algatrensig, Trudgin, Yellow_Knight   45
36   Hayabusa   43
37   BicycleBoy   33
38   AmisVelo   20
39   Scrool07   15
40   JustSomeGuy   5
41   Contadoome, RattaKuningas   0
   Collective_Wisdom   115

1   GeraintTooFast   665
2   BicycleBoy   564
3   ThePirate81   544
4   Laarsland   516
5   ArchieBoy   512
5   LosBrolin   512
7   Kabete   509
8   BikeRacer33   506
9   Crevaison   498
9   Kazistuta   498


1   GeraintTooFast   665
2   BicycleBoy   564
3   ThePirate81   544
4   Laarsland   516
5   ArchieBoy   512
5   LosBrolin   512
7   Kabete   509
8   BikeRacer33   506
9   Crevaison   498
9   Kazistuta   498


Red points

LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   190   31   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   93   19   teams
FROOME Chris   68   2   teams
WOODS Michael   22   1   team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   21   3   teams
POELS Wout   18   10   teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   16   15   teams
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   12   2   teams
HAIG Jack   10   1   team
YATES Adam   10   11   teams
...
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   -10   1   team
POLJANSKI Pawel   -10   1   team
POLANC Jan   -12   1   team
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   -14   5   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   -15   2   teams
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   -15   5   teams
TURGIS Jimmy   -15   2   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   -16   9   teams
MAJKA Rafal   -26   4   teams
ROCHE Nicolas   -26   3   teams
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   -34   3   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -70   5   teams


The top 14 are the 14 who double up on Lopez and Zakarin, the next 17 are the remaining Lopez teams. 
1   Fauniera   312
2   GodChild   308
3   Leadbelly   306
4   Minessa   305
5   Crevaison   304
6   GPBlanco   295
7   Shalgo   290
8   Emma   288
9   ArchieBoy   285
9   Squire   285
11   Joelsim   283
12   ThePirate81   274
13   Vladimir   273
14   BluesInTheBottle   267
15   GeraintTooFast   242
16   Hakkie2   231
17   Kazistuta   229
18   Armchair_Cyclist   225
19   Hugo87   221
20   Search   218
21   Laarsland   207
22   Rote_Laterne   205
23   DJW   204
24   Del1962   198
25   Comodoro   195
26   Kabete   189
27   EvansistheBest   188
28   LosBrolin   187
29   McLongan   162
30   BikeRacer33   120
31   Josedin   101
32   BicycleBoy   89
33   LightBing   86
34   Trudgin   84
35   Hayabusa   64
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   38
37   JustSomeGuy   3
38   Yellow_Knight   2
39   AmisVelo   -4
40   Scrool07   -23
41   Contadoome   -35
42   RattaKuningas   -73
   Collective_Wisdom   304

Standings
I might have a chance to look tomorrow, but I don't think I remember scores around 2000 in GT games previously.
The apparent 2 man battle between the Froome teams is thoroughly breached, as Leadbelly (Nibali, Lopez, Zakarin, Kelderman, Poels and Kruijswijk) takes top spot, Archie (onto the podium) Vladimir and Los Brolin all overtake Bicycle Boy; Minessa and Crevaison are into the top ten; and GodChild, Joelsim and yours truly share the high riser plaudits (5 places).

1   Leadbelly   1999
2   GeraintTooFast   1987
3   ArchieBoy   1935
4   Vladimir   1910
5   LosBrolin   1791
6   BicycleBoy   1761
7   BikeRacer33   1706
8   Del1962   1701
9   Minessa   1675
10   Crevaison   1658
11   GodChild   1657
12   GPBlanco   1650
13   Shalgo   1644
14   ThePirate81   1637
15   Squire   1600
16   Laarsland   1586
17   Fauniera   1578
18   Hakkie2   1527
19   Joelsim   1526
20   Kabete   1521
21   LightBing   1512
22   Emma   1490
23   Search   1478
24   Kazistuta   1475
25   Hugo87   1333
26   Yellow_Knight   1328
27   Armchair_Cyclist   1308
28   Comodoro   1301
29   McLongan   1272
30   Rote_Laterne   1260
31   EvansistheBest   1241
32   Josedin   1232
33   Carlo_Algatrensig   1221
34   BluesInTheBottle   1170
35   Trudgin   1159
36   AmisVelo   1141
37   JustSomeGuy   933
38   Hayabusa   912
39   DJW   768
40   Scrool07   637
41   Contadoome   603
42   RattaKuningas   570
   Collective_Wisdom   1649
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 05, 2017, 22:41
Rest day roundup  I know it was yesterday, but if only to draw attention to one numerical quirk...

Green points
FROOME Chris   405   2   teams (incl 234 bonus points for wearing red)
TRENTIN Matteo   260   0   team
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   180   31   teams
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   141   0   team
NIBALI Vincenzo   134   34   teams
LAMPAERT Yves   98   0   team (incl 18 leader's bonus)
POLJANSKI Pawel   96   1   team
MAJKA Rafal   96   4   teams
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   90   3   teams
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   85   18   teams
MOHORIC Matej   85   0   team
KELDERMAN Wilco   71   9   teams
LUTSENKO Alexey   70   0   team

Red points
FROOME Chris   1000   2   teams  Yep, exactly 1000.  171 for stage top ten finishes, 234 for 13 days in red, 500 for top of GC, 70 for top of points classification, and 25 for his 3rd place standing in the KoM category
NIBALI Vincenzo   534   34   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   450   31   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   383   19   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   346   9   teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   317   3   teams
TRENTIN Matteo   315   0   team
ARU Fabio   200   0   team
WOODS Michael   198   1   team
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   176   5   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   171   2   teams
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   163   0   team
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   147   3   teams
POELS Wout   144   10   teams
MAJKA Rafal   138   4   teams
VAN GARDEREN Tejay   124   0   team
POLJANSKI Pawel   116   1   team
LAMPAERT Yves   113   0   team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   112   15   teams
MOHORIC Matej   107   0   team
ROCHE Nicolas   103   3   teams
BARDET Romain   102   2   teams
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   100   18   teams

%age return on investment
POLJANSKI Pawel   190.2   1   team
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   163.0   0   team
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   127.1   31   teams
OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe   100.0   3   teams
MERTZ Rémy   75.0   1   team
NIBALI Antonio   75.0   3   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   71.1   34   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   65.4   9   teams
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   63.9   3   teams
OLIVIER Daan   60.7   4   teams
BOHORQUEZ SANCHEZ Hernando   60.0   0   team
AGNOLI Valerio   60.0   2   teams
COURTEILLE Arnaud   51.4   0   team
FROOME Chris   50.8   2   teams

Non-finishers only those selected by at least one team shown
BENNETT George   cost 602   1   team
OOMEN Sam   349   1   team (9 points earned)
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   323   9   teams (40 points earned)
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   316   1   team (40 points earned)
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   221   5   teams
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   159   19   teams
HOFSTEDE Lennard   92   1   team
BENEDETTI Cesare   91   2   teams (1 point earned)
ARCAS PEÑA Jorge   74   1   team
FOURNIER Marc   25   1   team
TURGIS Jimmy   15   2   teams
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 06, 2017, 00:59
Stage 16

Hardly anyone went for the TT specialists, but it really didn't matter.

FROOME Chris   88   2   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   40   9   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   25   34   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   15   19   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   10   2   teams
LUDVIGSSON Tobias   7   0   team
POELS Wout   5   10   teams
KÄMNA Lennard   3   1   team
OSS Daniel   2   0   team
GOUGEARD Alexis   1   0   team

1   GeraintTooFast   133
2   BicycleBoy   113
3   Leadbelly   85
4   ArchieBoy, LightBing, Vladimir   80
7   Del1962, LosBrolin   70
9   BikeRacer33   65
10   Trudgin   50
11   Minessa   45
12   Carlo_Algatrensig, Crevaison, Emma, Fauniera, GodChild, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Josedin, Shalgo, Squire, ThePirate81, Yellow_Knight   40
24   Armchair_Cyclist, Hakkie2, Kabete, Kazistuta   30
28   AmisVelo, Comodoro, EvansistheBest, Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Laarsland, McLongan, Rote_Laterne, Search   25
37   Hayabusa   23
38   BluesInTheBottle   15
39   Contadoome   10
40   DJW, RattaKuningas, Scrool07   0
   Collective_Wisdom   40

1   GeraintTooFast   798
2   BicycleBoy   677
3   ArchieBoy   592
4   ThePirate81   584
5   LosBrolin   582
6   BikeRacer33   571
7   Vladimir   570
8   Del1962   549
9   Leadbelly   544
10   Laarsland   541


Red points
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   103   2   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   95   9   teams
FROOME Chris   88   2   teams
POELS Wout   35   10   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   25   34   teams
...
GENIEZ Alexandre   -15   1   team
ZAKARIN Ilnur   -29   19   teams
WOODS Michael   -30   1   team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -92   3   teams


1   GeraintTooFast   214
2   Del1962   142
3   LosBrolin   141
4   Leadbelly   113
5   BicycleBoy   105
6   Trudgin   98
7   Contadoome   97
8   BikeRacer33   92
9   LightBing   91
10   Josedin   81
11   Vladimir   78
12   ArchieBoy   77
13   Armchair_Cyclist   55
13   Kabete   55
15   Kazistuta   47
16   Hakkie2   46
17   Minessa   25
18   JustSomeGuy   22
18   Rote_Laterne   22
20   EvansistheBest   20
20   McLongan   20
22   Comodoro   16
23   Hugo87   14
24   Hayabusa   9
25   DJW   -3
26   RattaKuningas   -6
27   Fauniera   -7
27   Joelsim   -7
29   Squire   -8
30   Emma   -9
31   Carlo_Algatrensig   -10
32   ThePirate81   -11
33   Yellow_Knight   -13
34   Crevaison   -17
34   GodChild   -17
36   GPBlanco   -18
36   Laarsland   -18
38   Shalgo   -19
39   BluesInTheBottle   -33
40   AmisVelo   -67
41   Search   -74
42   Scrool07   -95
   Collective_Wisdom   -17


Standings

Almost echoing the real life stage, the top five on the day are now all in the top 7 overall.  Geraint regains the lead, having topped the daily points earnings by a healthy margin, while the only other swap in positions in the top ten sees Del and BikeRacer exchange places.  LightBing takes a daily best 6 place rise.

1   GeraintTooFast   2201
2   Leadbelly   2112
3   ArchieBoy   2012
4   Vladimir   1988
5   LosBrolin   1932
6   BicycleBoy   1866
7   Del1962   1843
8   BikeRacer33   1798
9   Minessa   1700
10   Crevaison   1641
11   GodChild   1640
12   GPBlanco   1632
13   ThePirate81   1626
14   Shalgo   1625
15   LightBing   1603
16   Squire   1592
17   Kabete   1576
18   Hakkie2   1573
19   Fauniera   1571
20   Laarsland   1568
21   Kazistuta   1522
22   Joelsim   1519
23   Emma   1481
24   Search   1404
25   Armchair_Cyclist   1363
26   Hugo87   1347
27   Comodoro   1317
28   Yellow_Knight   1315
29   Josedin   1313
30   McLongan   1292
31   Rote_Laterne   1282
32   EvansistheBest   1261
33   Trudgin   1257
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   1211
35   BluesInTheBottle   1137
36   AmisVelo   1074
37   JustSomeGuy   955
38   Hayabusa   921
39   DJW   765
40   Contadoome   700
41   RattaKuningas   564
42   Scrool07   542
   Collective_Wisdom   1632
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Leadbelly on September 06, 2017, 17:38
This is going to be close ........ just like the real thing.

Geraint (Froome) vs Me (Zakarin, Nibali, Kruijswijk)

 :=B
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 06, 2017, 23:36
Stage 17

Green points

One breakaway survivor, one rider not chosen.

DENIFL Stefan   70   0   team
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   40   2   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   25   31   teams
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   15   34   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   10   19   teams
MAJKA Rafal   7   4   teams
WOODS Michael   5   1   team
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   3   6   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   2   9   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   1   5   teams

1   Trudgin   65 (Contador & Lopez)
2=   GodChild, Squire   53
4=   ArchieBoy, Leadbelly, Vladimir   52
7=   Crevaison, Emma, Fauniera, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Minessa, Shalgo, ThePirate81   50
15   LosBrolin   49
16   McLongan   47
17=   GeraintTooFast, Laarsland   45
19=   BikeRacer33, Hakkie2   43
21=   BluesInTheBottle, Del1962   42
23=   Lopez & Zakarin combo   40
32=   BicycleBoy, Yellow_Knight   33
34   LightBing   30
35=   DJW, Josedin   28
37   Carlo_Algatrensig   26
38=   AmisVelo, JustSomeGuy   15
40   Hayabusa   10
41   RattaKuningas   4
42   Scrool07   0
   Collective_Wisdom   50

1   GeraintTooFast   843
2   BicycleBoy   710
3   ArchieBoy   644
4   ThePirate81   634
5   LosBrolin   631
6   Vladimir   622
7   BikeRacer33   614
8   Leadbelly   596
9   Del1962   591
10   Crevaison   588


Red points

WOODS Michael   60   1   team
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   44   2   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   30   31   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   30   34   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   24   5   teams
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   16   15   teams
MAJKA Rafal   13   4   teams
...
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   -14   5   teams
KÄMNA Lennard   -15   1   team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -41   3   teams


Only one team with Woods, so Laarsland reaps the benefit of him being top scorer today.

1   Laarsland   136
2   GodChild   88
3   Trudgin   87
4   LosBrolin   86
5   ArchieBoy   85
5   Crevaison   85
7   GPBlanco   83
7   Hakkie2   83
9   Leadbelly   82
9   Vladimir   82
11   BikeRacer33   81
12   McLongan   79
13   Hugo87   78
14   Kazistuta   76
14   Yellow_Knight   76
16   Fauniera   75
17   Del1962   73
18   Comodoro   72
19   Joelsim   71
19   Minessa   71
19   Shalgo   71
22   Emma   69
23   Armchair_Cyclist   66
24   Carlo_Algatrensig   65
25   BicycleBoy   64
26   Rote_Laterne   62
27   EvansistheBest   58
27   Kabete   58
27   Squire   58
30   ThePirate81   55
31   BluesInTheBottle   54
31   Josedin   54
33   Contadoome   46
34   GeraintTooFast   43
35   LightBing   39
36   DJW   35
37   JustSomeGuy   28
38   Search   23
39   RattaKuningas   15
40   Hayabusa   -20
41   AmisVelo   -23
42   Scrool07   -44
   Collective_Wisdom   85


Standings

Interesting racing not really reflected in action in the table: GodChild slipping into the top ten is the highest place any difference is found, and on a day when noone else moves up by more than 2 places, Laarslands moves up 7.

1   GeraintTooFast   2244
2   Leadbelly   2194
3   ArchieBoy   2097
4   Vladimir   2070
5   LosBrolin   2018
6   BicycleBoy   1930
7   Del1962   1916
8   BikeRacer33   1879
9   Minessa   1771
10   GodChild   1728
11   Crevaison   1726
12   GPBlanco   1715
13   Laarsland   1704
14   Shalgo   1696
15   ThePirate81   1681
16   Hakkie2   1656
17   Squire   1650
18   Fauniera   1646
19   LightBing   1642
20   Kabete   1634
21   Kazistuta   1598
22   Joelsim   1590
23   Emma   1550
24   Armchair_Cyclist   1429
25   Search   1427
26   Hugo87   1425
27   Yellow_Knight   1391
28   Comodoro   1389
29   McLongan   1371
30   Josedin   1367
31   Rote_Laterne   1344
31   Trudgin   1344
33   EvansistheBest   1319
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   1276
35   BluesInTheBottle   1191
36   AmisVelo   1051
37   JustSomeGuy   983
38   Hayabusa   901
39   DJW   800
40   Contadoome   746
41   RattaKuningas   579
42   Scrool07   498
   Collective_Wisdom   1717

If Froome's apparent vulnerability tpday leads to him falling out of the lead, then Geraint will inevitably fall some distance, but even if he does not, and gets 54 more leader points, Nibali and Zakarin (and to a lesser extent Kruijswijk) are maybe looking capable of outscoring him on stage finishes, and while Froome can only lose points for the "sprints" ranking, Leadbelly has riders who could improve there, and improve more easily in the KoM ranking.

Key riders:  Geraint: Froome  vs LB: Nibali, Zakarin and Kruijswijk
Irrelevant because on both teams: Lopez, Kelderman, Poels (and the no longer riding Betancur)
Also no longer riding: Geraint: Turgis
Could gain a few GC points (or lose 1): Geraint: Olivier
Can't really do anything other than retain their 15 finisher points: Geraint: Osorio and A Nibali; LB: Dombrowski and Saez.

Unless someone key has an absolute collapse, I can't really see anyone other than these two challenging for the title, as the next two teams (Archie and Vladimir) have 5 of Leadbelly's 6 big scorers, but both lack Poels or anyone likely to win a breakaway stage; the next team, Los Brolin, is essentially Leadbelly's team with Majka instead of Zakarin, and even his breakaway capacity is not going to give him the two stage wins that would be needed to really put Los Brolin into the equation.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 07, 2017, 22:22
Stage 18


Green points

The more of the break that survives, the less our game has to report.

ARMEE Sander   70   0   team
LUTSENKO Alexey   40   0   team
VISCONTI Giovanni   25   1   team
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
GOUGEARD Alexis   15   0   team
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   10   3   teams
DE MARCHI Alessandro   7   3   teams
TRENTIN Matteo   5   0   team
PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   3   0   team
TOLHOEK Antwan   2   1   team
ROUX Anthony   1   0   team

1   Emma   25
2   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
4   Contadoome, Hayabusa, Scrool07   10
7   AmisVelo, BikeRacer33, Hakkie2   7
10   Trudgin   2

1   GeraintTooFast   861
2   BicycleBoy   728
3   ArchieBoy   644
4   ThePirate81   634
5   LosBrolin   631
6   Vladimir   622
7   BikeRacer33   621
8   Leadbelly   596
9   Del1962   591
10   Crevaison   588


Red points

Very quiet today

ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   37   3   teams
VISCONTI Giovanni   29   1   team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   15   15   teams
TOLHOEK Antwan   14   1   team
...
MAJKA Rafal   -10   4   teams
YATES Adam   -12   11   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   -15   34   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -15   5   teams
POELS Wout   -15   10   teams


1   Scrool07   34
2   Contadoome   29
3   Hayabusa   19
4   Emma   15
5   BicycleBoy   8
6   ArchieBoy   5
7   GPBlanco   2
8   Comodoro   1
9   Crevaison   0
9   GodChild   0
9   Laarsland   0
9   Vladimir   0
13   Trudgin   -1
14   Shalgo   -6
15   GeraintTooFast   -8
16   Josedin   -9
17   Hakkie2   -11
18   DJW   -12
18   Hugo87   -12
20   Del1962   -15
20   EvansistheBest   -15
20   JustSomeGuy   -15
20   Kazistuta   -15
20   Leadbelly   -15
20   LightBing   -15
26   Search   -18
27   BluesInTheBottle   -21
27   ThePirate81   -21
29   LosBrolin   -25
30   Fauniera   -26
30   Rote_Laterne   -26
32   AmisVelo   -27
32   Joelsim   -27
34   RattaKuningas   -28
35   BikeRacer33   -29
36   Kabete   -31
37   Minessa   -33
38   Squire   -34
39   McLongan   -40
39   Yellow_Knight   -40
41   Carlo_Algatrensig   -42
42   Armchair_Cyclist   -44
   Collective_Wisdom   0


Nibali loses a place on points classification: Geraint's position seems slightly more secure than last night.
You have to look all the way down to 17th to find the first change in positions: LightBing in that position is one of three teams with a 2 place improvement, Hugo87 and Josedin being the others.

1   GeraintTooFast   2236
2   Leadbelly   2179
3   ArchieBoy   2102
4   Vladimir   2070
5   LosBrolin   1993
6   BicycleBoy   1938
7   Del1962   1901
8   BikeRacer33   1850
9   Minessa   1738
10   GodChild   1728
11   Crevaison   1726
12   GPBlanco   1717
13   Laarsland   1704
14   Shalgo   1690
15   ThePirate81   1660
16   Hakkie2   1645
17   LightBing   1627
18   Fauniera   1620
19   Squire   1616
20   Kabete   1603
21   Kazistuta   1583
22   Emma   1565
23   Joelsim   1563
24   Hugo87   1413
25   Search   1409
26   Comodoro   1390
27   Armchair_Cyclist   1385
28   Josedin   1358
29   Yellow_Knight   1351
30   Trudgin   1343
31   McLongan   1331
32   Rote_Laterne   1318
33   EvansistheBest   1304
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   1234
35   BluesInTheBottle   1170
36   AmisVelo   1024
37   JustSomeGuy   968
38   Hayabusa   920
39   DJW   788
40   Contadoome   775
41   RattaKuningas   551
42   Scrool07   532
   Collective_Wisdom   1717
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 09, 2017, 01:05
Stage 19

Sort of what I said yesterday...

Green points

DE GENDT Thomas   70   0   team
PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson   40   4   teams
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   25   0   team
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   15   1   team
DE TIER Floris   10   0   team
JUNGELS Bob   7   2   teams
BARDET Romain   5   2   teams
ROCHE Nicolas   3   3   teams
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   2   5   teams
BOUWMAN Koen   1   0   team

1=   Armchair_Cyclist, Contadoome, Minessa, Search   40
5   =BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
7   Scrool07   17
8   Comodoro   9
9   Hayabusa   7
10=   EvansistheBest, JustSomeGuy   5
12=   AmisVelo, Kabete, Laarsland   3
15=   Hugo87, Joelsim, McLongan   2

1   GeraintTooFast   879
2   BicycleBoy   746
3   ArchieBoy   644
4   ThePirate81   634
5   LosBrolin   631
6   Vladimir   622
7   BikeRacer33   621
8   Minessa   608
9   Leadbelly   596
10   Del1962   591


Red points

PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson   48   4   teams
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   22   1   team
ROCHE Nicolas   15   3   teams
FROOME Chris   13   2   teams
JUNGELS Bob   12   2   teams
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   8   3   teams
...
MAJKA Rafal   -7   4   teams
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   -8   1   team
YATES Adam   -10   11   teams

1   Contadoome   50
2   Search   48
3   Minessa   47
4   Armchair_Cyclist   38
5   Scrool07   31
6   Hayabusa   17
7   Laarsland   15
8   Comodoro   14
9   BicycleBoy   13
9   GeraintTooFast   13
11   Kabete   11
12   EvansistheBest   7
13   JustSomeGuy   6
14   Trudgin   5
15   AmisVelo   3
16   Del1962   0
16   Kazistuta   0
18   Crevaison   -1
18   Emma   -1
18   Leadbelly   -1
18   Vladimir   -1
22   GPBlanco   -2
23   Hakkie2   -3
23   Shalgo   -3
23   ThePirate81   -3
26   ArchieBoy   -4
26   Josedin   -4
28   GodChild   -5
28   LightBing   -5
30   BikeRacer33   -6
31   LosBrolin   -7
32   Hugo87   -8
32   Yellow_Knight   -8
34   Fauniera   -9
34   Joelsim   -9
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   -11
36   Rote_Laterne   -11
38   DJW   -14
38   McLongan   -14
40   Squire   -17
41   BluesInTheBottle   -19
41   RattaKuningas   -19
   Collective_Wisdom   -1

Standings

Only 9 teams moved up at all: of them, the highest sees Crevaison  reverse the swap with GodChild of a couple of days ago, and he reenters the top ten, and only Kabete and Armchair move up by more than the one place.

1   GeraintTooFast   2249
2   Leadbelly   2178
3   ArchieBoy   2098
4   Vladimir   2069
5   LosBrolin   1986
6   BicycleBoy   1951
7   Del1962   1901
8   BikeRacer33   1844
9   Minessa   1785
10   Crevaison   1725
11   GodChild   1723
12   Laarsland   1719
13   GPBlanco   1715
14   Shalgo   1687
15   ThePirate81   1657
16   Hakkie2   1642
17   LightBing   1622
18   Kabete   1614
19   Fauniera   1611
20   Squire   1599
21   Kazistuta   1583
22   Emma   1564
23   Joelsim   1554
24   Search   1457
25   Armchair_Cyclist   1423
26   Hugo87   1405
27   Comodoro   1404
28   Josedin   1354
29   Trudgin   1348
30   Yellow_Knight   1343
31   McLongan   1317
32   EvansistheBest   1311
33   Rote_Laterne   1307
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   1223
35   BluesInTheBottle   1151
36   AmisVelo   1027
37   JustSomeGuy   974
38   Hayabusa   937
39   Contadoome   825
40   DJW   774
41   Scrool07   563
42   RattaKuningas   532
   Collective_Wisdom   1716

Another small increase in Geraint's lead.  Tomorrow is the Angliru: will it really shake everything up?  Will Froome get enough green jersey points to be certain that Trentin will not deprive him of 25 points in this game by taking that classification on Sunday? Will Nibali/Zakarin/Kruijswijk take enough stage points for LeadBelly tomorrow for that to be an issue?

Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Leadbelly on September 09, 2017, 08:26
At the very least I need Zakarin to overtake Kelderman in the GC. It won't give me any points, but Geraint will lose 60.

Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Leadbelly on September 09, 2017, 17:47
Will Trentin and Villella be OTL-ed? This is what the competition could come down to! Even if Trentin isn't out they might still take points away from him!
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 09, 2017, 20:42
Stage 20 Angliru

A last bullet in the pistol, and Froome not weak after all.

Green points

CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   70   2   teams
FROOME Chris   43   2   teams
POELS Wout   40   10   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   15   19   teams
PELLIZOTTI Franco   10   0   team
NIBALI Vincenzo   7   34   teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   5   15   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   3   9   teams
BARDET Romain   2   2   teams
WOODS Michael   1   1   team

1   Trudgin   92
2   GeraintTooFast   86
3=   Contadoome, Leadbelly   70
5=   Minessa   62
6=   BicycleBoy, Del1962, Hayabusa, LosBrolin   55
10=   Hakkie2, Kazistuta   52
12=   Armchair_Cyclist, Kabete   47
14=   ArchieBoy, Vladimir   30
16=   Crevaison, GodChild, GPBlanco, Shalgo   27
20   LightBing   25
21=   Carlo_Algatrensig, Emma, Fauniera, Joelsim, Squire, ThePirate81, Yellow_Knight   22
28   BluesInTheBottle   15
29   Laarsland   13
30=   Comodoro, Hugo87   12
32   BikeRacer33   10
33=   EvansistheBes, JustSomeGuy   9
35=   AmisVelo, McLongan, Rote_Laterne, Search   7
39   Josedin   3
40=   DJW, RattaKuningas, Scrool07   0
   Collective_Wisdom   27

1   GeraintTooFast   965
2   BicycleBoy   801
3   LosBrolin   686
4   ArchieBoy   674
5   Minessa   670
6   Leadbelly   666
7   ThePirate81   656
8   Vladimir   652
9   Del1962   646
10   BikeRacer33   631

Red points

CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   105   2   teams
POELS Wout   105   10   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   65   19   teams
FROOME Chris   58   2   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   22   34   teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   20   15   teams
...
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -60   31   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   -72   9   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -120   5   teams

1   Trudgin   194
2   Hayabusa   162
3   Minessa   130
4   Contadoome   101
5   BicycleBoy   100
6   Hakkie2   92
7   Kazistuta   87
8   Leadbelly   80
9   Kabete   77
10   Armchair_Cyclist   69
11   GodChild   51
12   GPBlanco   49
13   Crevaison   47
14   Shalgo   45
15   AmisVelo   37
16   Fauniera   35
17   Squire   33
18   GeraintTooFast   31
18   Joelsim   31
20   Emma   29
21   JustSomeGuy   27
22   ThePirate81   25
23   LightBing   19
24   LosBrolin   17
25   Del1962   15
26   BluesInTheBottle   13
27   Scrool07   -5
28   Laarsland   -9
29   Hugo87   -14
30   Comodoro   -22
31   Vladimir   -25
32   ArchieBoy   -26
33   Carlo_Algatrensig   -29
34   McLongan   -31
34   Yellow_Knight   -31
36   Rote_Laterne   -32
37   Search   -33
38   EvansistheBest   -34
39   DJW   -52
40   RattaKuningas   -108
41   BikeRacer33   -224
42   Josedin   -251
   Collective_Wisdom   47

Standings

A downward movement was more more dramatic than any upward ones in this evening's table: BikeRacer has the triple whammy of Lopez, Kelderman and De La Cruz, and falls not only out of the top ten, but also the top twenty.

Foremost among the risers was Bicycle Boy, the other Froome team (Nibali and Kruijswijk have been a less successful supporting cast than Lopez, Kelderman and Poels), and the biggest step forward was Trudgin. 

1   GeraintTooFast   2280
2   Leadbelly   2258
3   ArchieBoy   2072
4   BicycleBoy   2051
5   Vladimir   2044
6   LosBrolin   2003
7   Del1962   1916
8   Minessa   1915
9   GodChild   1774
10   Crevaison   1772
11   GPBlanco   1764
12   Hakkie2   1734
13   Shalgo   1732
14   Laarsland   1710
15   Kabete   1691
16   ThePirate81   1682
17   Kazistuta   1670
18   Fauniera   1646
19   LightBing   1641
20   Squire   1632
21   BikeRacer33   1620
22   Emma   1593
23   Joelsim   1585
24   Trudgin   1542
25   Armchair_Cyclist   1492
26   Search   1424
27   Hugo87   1391
28   Comodoro   1382
29   Yellow_Knight   1312
30   McLongan   1286
31   EvansistheBest   1277
32   Rote_Laterne   1275
33   Carlo_Algatrensig   1194
34   BluesInTheBottle   1164
35   Josedin   1103
36   Hayabusa   1099
37   AmisVelo   1064
38   JustSomeGuy   1001
39   Contadoome   926
40   DJW   722
41   Scrool07   558
42   RattaKuningas   424
   Collective_Wisdom   1763

The gap is closed, but tomorrow doesn't seem to have enough to offer Leadbelly to finally close the gap.  Neither of our top teams has anyone likely to gain stage points, so Trentin's possible recovery of the Green jersey is the element most likely to change the game.  That would see Froome (an therefore Geraint) lose 30 points.  But Trentin would also be overhauling Nibali in that category (Nibali having moved into second today), so Leadbelly would lose the game by just seven points (the same as the margin in the Tour game if I remember correctly).

As to the third podium place, the four teams in contention have 1 sprinter each: Vladimir has Lobato, the other three have Schwartzmann.  So Brolin and Bicycle Boy seem effectively blocked from the podium by Archie, and Vladimir would need at least a repeat of his second place on stage 4 from Lobato to reach third.


Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: just some guy on September 10, 2017, 06:49
Another really close thing
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 10, 2017, 22:11
Stage 21 The final analysis

(Took a while, as having been thankfully consistent with the names they used for the riders for three weeks, lavuelta.com had new names for about 2 dozen of them today)

Green points

Not much doing today, it was never a game full of sprinter spends

TRENTIN Matteo   70   0   team
MANZIN Lorrenzo   40   2   teams
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   25   3   teams
VAN ASBROECK Tom   15   0   team
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   10   0   team
CORT NIELSEN Magnus   7   0   team
VANBILSEN Kenneth   5   0   team
MODOLO Sacha   3   0   team
SCHWARZMANN Michael   2   8   teams
HOELGAARD Daniel   1   0   team

1   Fauniera, Shalgo   40
3   GodChild, Kabete, Laarsland   25
6   ArchieBoy, BicycleBoy, BikeRacer33, Comodoro, DJW, Joelsim, LosBrolin, Yellow_Knight   2

Final Green points

So in the end, the domination of the Green points by the two Froome teams was vindicated.  You can work out for yourselves how strong the effect of 18 red jersey wearer points (324 in total) are.

1   GeraintTooFast   965
2   BicycleBoy   803
3   LosBrolin   688
4   ArchieBoy   676
5   Minessa   670
6   Leadbelly   666
7   ThePirate81   656
8   Kabete   654
9   Vladimir   652
10   Del1962   646
11   BikeRacer33   633
12   Laarsland   627
13   Kazistuta   620
14   Crevaison   615
15   Shalgo   611
16   Hakkie2   599
17   GodChild   598
18   Search   580
19   Emma   579
20   Fauniera   566
21   Josedin   560
22   GPBlanco   553
23   Rote_Laterne   552
24   Armchair_Cyclist   548
25   Joelsim   544
26   EvansistheBest   528
27   Comodoro   526
28   McLongan   522
29   Hugo87   520
30   LightBing   505
31   Squire   496
32   BluesInTheBottle   487
33   Yellow_Knight   470
34   Trudgin   430
35   JustSomeGuy   415
36   Hayabusa   403
37   Contadoome   369
38   DJW   359
39   Carlo_Algatrensig   346
40   AmisVelo   317
41   Scrool07   258
42   RattaKuningas   197
   Collective_Wisdom   606

Red points

We expected points loss for Froome and Nibali from the green jersey: only Nibali suffered, and while we thought the main GC positions were fixed, Contador's waving to the crowds resulted in an unexpected bonus for the Kelderman teams.

MANZIN Lorrenzo   40   2   teams
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   25   3   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   25   9   teams
...
NIBALI Vincenzo   -15   34   teams
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   -25   2   teams

As is traditional for final days, small differences here

1   Josedin   26
2   Fauniera   25
2   GeraintTooFast   25
2   Shalgo   25
5   ArchieBoy   12
5   BikeRacer33   12
5   LosBrolin   12
8   Del1962   10
8   GodChild   10
8   Kabete   10
8   Laarsland   10
8   Leadbelly   10
8   LightBing   10
8   Vladimir   10
15   DJW   2
16   BluesInTheBottle   1
16   Hayabusa   1
16   RattaKuningas   1
19   Scrool07   0
20   Comodoro   -12
21   BicycleBoy   -13
21   Joelsim   -13
21   Yellow_Knight   -13
24   Emma   -14
24   GPBlanco   -14
24   JustSomeGuy   -14
24   Rote_Laterne   -14
28   AmisVelo   -15
28   Armchair_Cyclist   -15
28   Carlo_Algatrensig   -15
28   Crevaison   -15
28   EvansistheBest   -15
28   Hakkie2   -15
28   Hugo87   -15
28   Kazistuta   -15
28   McLongan   -15
28   Minessa   -15
28   Search   -15
28   Squire   -15
28   ThePirate81   -15
41   Contadoome   -25
42   Trudgin   -40
   Collective_Wisdom   -15

And so we arrive at:
Final standings

1   GeraintTooFast   2305
2   Leadbelly   2268
3   ArchieBoy   2084
4   Vladimir   2054
5   BicycleBoy   2038
6   LosBrolin   2015
7   Del1962   1926
8   Minessa   1900
9   GodChild   1784
10   Crevaison   1757
10   Shalgo   1757
12   GPBlanco   1750
13   Laarsland   1720
14   Hakkie2   1719
15   Kabete   1701
16   Fauniera   1671
17   ThePirate81   1667
18   Kazistuta   1655
19   LightBing   1651
20   BikeRacer33   1632
21   Squire   1617
22   Emma   1579
23   Joelsim   1572
24   Trudgin   1502
25   Armchair_Cyclist   1477
26   Search   1409
27   Hugo87   1376
28   Comodoro   1370
29   Yellow_Knight   1299
30   McLongan   1271
31   EvansistheBest   1262
32   Rote_Laterne   1261
33   Carlo_Algatrensig   1179
34   BluesInTheBottle   1165
35   Josedin   1129
36   Hayabusa   1100
37   AmisVelo   1049
38   JustSomeGuy   987
39   Contadoome   901
40   DJW   724
41   Scrool07   558
42   RattaKuningas   425
   Collective_Wisdom   1748

Geraint did indeed hold onto his lead, by an increased margin.  Vladimir, by virtue of having Kelderman, mimics his exploit in moving upto fourth at the last, but Archie retains the third podium spot.  On a day of very few positional changes, Shalgo moves up three places, and if he does not quite make it into the top ten, he at least forces us to acknowledge a top eleven instead.

Congratulations to Geraint, to Leadbelly and Archie for filling the podium, and thanks to all for your entries.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 10, 2017, 22:23
I will do some number analysis tomorrow, but for those who have taken part in all 4 of my games this year, thanks for your loyalty, and your loyalty reward is entry into the Four Seasons Championship

      Spring Classics   +   Giro   +   Tour   +   Vuelta   =   
1   Squire   1246   +   1528   +   1923   +   1617   =   6314
2   Laarsland   1484   +   1380   +   1692   +   1720   =   6276
3   Kazistuta   1955   +   1391   +   1120   +   1655   =   6121
4   Vladimir   1301   +   1200   +   1484   +   2054   =   6039
5   GPBlanco   1275   +   1663   +   1308   +   1750   =   5996
6   LosBrolin   1582   +   1361   +   990   +   2015   =   5948
7   ThePirate81   1484   +   1327   +   1461   +   1667   =   5939
8   Leadbelly   1079   +   1545   +   1014   +   2268   =   5906
9   Del1962   1782   +   1531   +   605   +   1926   =   5844
9   Shalgo   1776   +   1223   +   1088   +   1757   =   5844
11   Armchair_Cyclist   1319   +   1435   +   1547   +   1477   =   5778
12   Hakkie2   1483   +   1548   +   963   +   1719   =   5713
13   AmisVelo   1242   +   1436   +   1949   +   1049   =   5676
13   GeraintTooFast   1250   +   1219   +   902   +   2305   =   5676
15   JustSomeGuy   2112   +   1246   +   1109   +   987   =   5454
16   Search   1163   +   1415   +   1302   +   1409   =   5289
17   Comodoro   1205   +   1117   +   976   +   1370   =   4668
18   LightBing   1163   +   1142   +   608   +   1651   =   4564
19   Rote_Laterne   1266   +   1147   +   726   +   1261   =   4400
20   DJW   1364   +   1080   +   995   +   724   =   4163
21   Trudgin   622   +   1448   +   379   +   1502   =   3951
22   Scrool07   965   +   1355   +   889   +   558   =   3767
23   Josedin   601   +   1355   +   328   +   1129   =   3413
24   Carlo_Algatrensig   516   +   516   +   898   +   1179   =   3109
   Collective_Wisdom   1418   +   1355   +   1326   +   1748   =   5847
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on September 11, 2017, 18:16
Many thanks to AC for organising these games throughout the year.
Title: Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 12, 2017, 00:30
So where did it all go wrong (or right) for your team

Top scoring riders
1   FROOME Chris   1185   2   teams
2   NIBALI Vincenzo   581   34   teams
3   ZAKARIN Ilnur   427   19   teams
4   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   415   31   teams
5   CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   398   2   teams
6   KELDERMAN Wilco   391   9   teams
7   TRENTIN Matteo   390   0   team
8   POELS Wout   269   10   teams
9   WOODS Michael   231   1   team
10   CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   190   3   teams
11   ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   178   3   teams
12   MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   163   0   team
13   VAN GARDEREN Tejay   155   0   team
13   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   155   15   teams
15   ARMEE Sander   140   0   team
16   MAJKA Rafal   135   4   teams
17   MOHORIC Matej   129   0   team
18   LUTSENKO Alexey   125   0   team
19   ROCHE Nicolas   124   3   teams
20   MEINTJES Louis   114   0   team
20   ARU Fabio   114   0   team
22   LAMPAERT Yves   113   0   team
23   BARDET Romain   111   2   teams
23   POLJANSKI Pawel   111   1   team
25   DE GENDT Thomas   110   0   team
26   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   100   18   teams
27   MOSCON Gianni   93   0   team
27   PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   93   0   team
29   DENIFL Stefan   88   0   team
30   NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   87   2   teams
31   VILLELLA Davide   85   0   team
32   POLANC Jan   81   1   team


Best %age return
1   POLJANSKI Pawel   182%   1   team
2   MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   163%   0   team
3   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   117%   31   teams
4   OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe   100%   3   teams
5   ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   77%   3   teams
6   NIBALI Vincenzo   77%   34   teams
7   NIBALI Antonio   75%   3   teams
7   MERTZ Rémy   75%   1   team
9   KELDERMAN Wilco   74%   9   teams
10   POELS Wout   65%   10   teams
11   TOLHOEK Antwan   64%   1   team
12   TRENTIN Matteo   61%   0   team
13   FROOME Chris   60%   2   teams
14   BOHORQUEZ SANCHEZ Hernando   60%   0   team
14   AGNOLI Valerio   60%   2   teams
16   DENIFL Stefan   55%   0   team
17   OLIVIER Daan   54%   4   teams
18   WOODS Michael   53%   1   team
19   ZAKARIN Ilnur   53%   19   teams
20   COURTEILLE Arnaud   51%   0   team
21   MANZIN Lorrenzo   50%   2   teams

Best possible team (with thanks to Hakkie for calculation)

NIBALI Vincenzo   581   34   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   427   19   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   415   31   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   391   9   teams
TRENTIN Matteo   390   0   teams
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   178   3   teams
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   163   0   teams
POLJANSKI Pawel   111   1   teams
OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe   15   3   teams
for a total of 2671

Instead of Osorio, the ideal team could equally have had any of:
BONNAFOND Guillaume
NIBALI Antonio
MERTZ Rémy
BOHORQUEZ SANCHEZ Hernando
AGNOLI Valerio
OLIVIER Daan
who were also available within budget and got 15 points, and between them were picked by 11 teams.

Impeccable picks
FROOME Chris
NIBALI Vincenzo
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz
POLJANSKI Pawel
COURTEILLE Arnaud
OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe


All the numbers here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/jn78yrqa8371l4m/Vuelta%202017%20CQ%20game.xlsx?dl=0)