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Title: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 13, 2017, 10:50
PostNord Danmark Rundt
12th to 16th Sept

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I didn't think I'd have the time or the energy to post on this most beloved of races. It was my plan to just recuperate after a gruelling Vuelta  :lol

But then I watched on the first stage and I remembered why I love the racing in Denmark. I couldn't resist, and  so here we are.

Route

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The eagle-eyed among you will spot that not only does the race appear later in the calendar, it's also does not finish along the beautiful Frederiksberg Allé in Copenhagen. This year the capital hosts the start and the race will finish in the Jylland capital Aarhus to celebrate it's status as European City of Culture. Instead of a traditional sprint to wrap up the jersey, much more will come into play with a hillier parcours and the  hill on Oddervej.

Other than these changes, the race itself follows the format from last year. 5 stages over 5 days: two sprints, the queen stage in Vejle with the usual lung-busting 21% Kiddesveij on the finishing circuits, a TT,  and then goodness knows what to expect on the last stage. Plus there's ALWAYS the chance of wind and echelons to add a n extra frisson. Judging by yesterday I'd say EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED  ;)

I'm not going to do a full run down of the stages, you can find all you need on Feltet  (http://www.feltet.dk/nyheder/optakt_postnord_danmark_rundt_2017/), the  race website (http://www.postnorddanmarkrundt.dk/), and especially their new live web application (http://live.postnorddanmarkrundt.dk/). Below are the routes, with the overly funky profiles  :o

Stage 1: Frederiksberg to Kalundborg, 176.6km          Stage 2: Svendborg to Odense, 183.8km
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Stage 3: Otterup to Vejle, 183.6km                           Stage 4: Randers to Randers, ITT, 17.8km
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Stage 5: Ebeltoft to Aarhus, 198km
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Jerseys
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Start List
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 #trek have brought an amazing lineup and my money goes to Mads Pedersen for the race win, although I have no doubt  #astana Astana and Michael Valgren will push hard. Cofidis bring Bouhanni to spice up the sprints along with  #sunweb Bauhaus  #trek Degenkolb (though not sure of his form) and  #astana Breschel (please please please let him take win #10). And NEVER discount the Danish Conti teams. They'll mix it up on home roads they know well.

Social media and live feeds
Twitter (https://twitter.com/PostNordDKRundt) #PNDKR2017
I have terrible trouble with the hashtag, it just seems really clumsy to me  :slow

It's not on Eurosport BOOOOOO.

BUT DR.dk are running a liveticker and a live feed for whole race - each stage from start to finish. It worked fantastically well yesterday. The feed commentary is in Danish obviously (you'll get the hang of it), the picture quality was tip top, the person running the live ticker has a wonderfully lyrical turn of phrase.

HERE'S YOUR LINK (http://www.dr.dk/live/nyheder/sporten/Post-nord-dk-rundt-2017-live)

It's a great race, fiercely contested and with the added weather to cause chaos.  I'll try and post results and videos etc...but DO give it a whirl.
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 13, 2017, 11:23
overly funky profiles  :o
Man, those are incredible.
Whoever thought that was a good idea should have their head checked.
:fp :fp :fp
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 13, 2017, 11:39
Man, those are incredible.
Whoever thought that was a good idea should have their head checked.
:fp :fp :fp

Not only that Lukas, but they're buried away in a section called publicity caravan and not with the stage descriptions.
Title: Re: Postnord Danemark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 13, 2017, 11:42
Stage 1



https://twitter.com/PostNordDKRundt/status/907665893110542337

Well THAT turned out to be as crazy as remember this race  :cool

First we had the whole circus of the break being led the wrong way and the race neutralised while they sorted it out. Mistakes of course happen, but ones like this really, really shouldn't, especially when one is gunning for a TDF start. Hopefully lessons are learned.

The 6 man break consisted of 5 Danes and 1 lone #direct Frenchman.  With the break picked up at 40km, the final 30km or so were highly entertaining. Riders attacking off the front like firecrackers on Chinese New Year.  #trek strung them out in the crosswinds at 26km to go with Mads Pedersen and Jasper Stuyven joined by  #sunweb Ramon Sinkeldam and #direct Fabian Grellier (Direct Energy) off the front. Grellier was still there with #wanty Kevin Van Melsen and  #roskilde Giant-Castelli's Casper Pedersen as they hit the local laps (3 x 5km). More attacks happened until finally again and after several attacks again, the team was in the field, but Casper Pedersen  attacked again and this time got a gap. With 5km to go he held 9secs, he was still there with 3km to go and the rampaging sprint teams were panicking but not denting his lead. Just as he did at the Euro's to win his U23 title, he drove hard, held his advantage and brought home stage victory and the race lead. It was some effort and his beam on the podium was joy to see.  #cofidis Nacer Bouhani won the sprint for second, with #sunweb Bauhaus in third. and #specialbreschel made 6th #thankgoodness.

The look on Bouhanni's face was priceless...welcome to Denmark BouBou :cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB4St-LGxMk

This morning rumours abound that Casper Pedersen  already signed for  #aquablue Aqua Blue. I like this.
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 13, 2017, 11:49
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
from Dr.dk this morning

Quote

The field will be sent out on a beautiful trip around Sydfyn, where there will be plenty of opportunity for the riders to visit the many beautiful estates on the area before the tour through the beautiful scenery ends in the area of ​​the Funen Village in Odense.
 
However, the potentially wonderful trip can be spoiled by weather gods that not only dictate rain over Funen Wednesday but also extremely windy winds.
 
Heavy gusts will bother the riders all day, when bullies (15 to 20 m / s) are reported most of the day before it really seems to catch up late in the afternoon.
 
Here we report storm gusts (25 to 30 m / s). It places great demands on the riders.
 
- You must pay close attention to the violent wind. It can really be a hectic day with many crashes where the field can be blown to atoms. If it gets too violent, we'll have to judge whether it's safe to ride, says Riwal Platform Cycling Team rider Chris Anker Sørensen.

They do. Never mind echelons, I just hope they stay safe

https://twitter.com/PostNordDKRundt/status/907913679689207809

https://twitter.com/PostNordDKRundt/status/907838053628215297
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 13, 2017, 15:46
Story of stage 2

The riders set off in horrible conditions.

1 . The race was shortened by 15km cutting out a potentially dangerous bridge crossing
https://twitter.com/PostNordDKRundt/status/907950375881375746


2. The conditions worsened and the race was neutralised at Rantzausminde. The plan wa sfor the  riders would continue to the feed zone at Faaborg at 40km/hr where the race would be resumed - a distance of 30km.
https://twitter.com/PostNordDKRundt/status/907952344368926720

3. During this neutralised part you could sense the riders were not happy, many at their own cars or the race directors. The conditions worsened and suddenly, under shelter of the trees. the peloton stopped and within seconds the race was cancelled.
https://twitter.com/PostNordDKRundt/status/907959511759052800

The following is from Jesper Worre from the DR live ticker

Quote
Jesper Worre reports that Morten Bennekou, sports director of Team Sunweb and representative of sports directors in the field, call him up. Bennekou has a proposal that he has discussed with the other sports directors. Jesper Worre also explains that the weather was not for cycling. It was very windy and a necessary decision to neutralize the race at Rantzausminde.
 
He presents the proposal for Jesper Worre, who assumes that the race will be neutralized to the feeding zone in Faaborg. Here the riders should keep a speed of 40 km / h, so the riders should not get cold. According to Jesper Worre, Morten Bennekou spoke to the chief commissioner about this. Therefore, this is reported on the Radio Tour. This starts, according to Worre, a discussion club among the riders.
 
The rider's man [I assume he means representative] today was Michael Valgren, who according to Worre is exposed to a lot of pressure by some riders in the field. Then the riders stop and the chief commissioner tells Jesper Worre that he and Jesper Worre can not force the riders to drive.

At one point it is the riders, according to race director Jesper Worre, who do not want to continue.  " My hope was what I continued to say on the radio that we could fight the riders for catering in Faaborg, where we would drive more with the wind from behind. 

That was also Morten Bennekous's conclusion." Let's look at it again and if we can, then we cycle race from there to Odense ""

Can't have been an easy decision. It was horrible weather that worsened on route, but the wind direction was due to change also. From a race director's point of view you are damned if you do, damned if you don't. To me the issue was the was the long neutralisation period, though I can't see a way they could have avoided that on the fly. No doubt there will be more said on the subject.

Here's some  #direct Thomas Boudat in the wind

https://twitter.com/TeamDEN_fr/status/907969357103366144

One other issue of note.  #cofidis Nacer Bouhanni abandoned due to illness early in the stage - could he be allowed back in?

http://www.postnorddanmarkrundt.dk/opfoelgning-paa-aflysningen-af-2-etape/ official report
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 13, 2017, 17:48
Can't have been an easy decision. It was horrible weather that worsened on route, but the wind direction was due to change also. From a race director's point of view you are damned if you do, damned if you don't. To me the issue was the was the long neutralisation period, though I can't see a way they could have avoided that on the fly. No doubt there will be more said on the subject.
It was the right decision to cancel.
What could have been done better: Cancel the stage at Rantzausminde instead of forcing the riders through a long and pointless neutralisation that they understandably enough weren't happy about. Bennekou talked to the sports directors who agreed to the neutralisation - but apparently nobody asked the riders.

I understand why they were reluctant to cancel the stage and wanted to give it another try from Faaborg - cutting one stage from a 5-day race is a big deal. But it would have been better if they had communicated with the riders (Valgren as representative plus a few other big names - Degenkolb, Reihs, Napolitano, Mortensen) before making the decision to neutralise the race for almost 30 km. They'd have told them right away that once you stop a race in these conditions, the riders won't be starting again.

But overall, this is a small thing: They did all the big things right.
Cancelling the loop on Tåsinge (which included crossing a high bridge twice in storm conditions), neutralising the race when they sensed it became unsafe, and in the end listening to the riders' wishes for a total cancellation.

Not only that Lukas, but they're buried away in a section called publicity caravan and not with the stage descriptions.
I can't find them on the website even now that I know where to look ... :slow
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 13, 2017, 17:50
One other issue of note.  #cofidis Nacer Bouhanni abandoned due to illness early in the stage - could he be allowed back in?

http://www.postnorddanmarkrundt.dk/opfoelgning-paa-aflysningen-af-2-etape/ official report
Mentioned at the bottom of the report - Bouhanni is out of the race.
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 14, 2017, 18:10
Stage 3

I have no words, watch the video. Kiddesvej is leg breaking the first time, and only gets worse. Last time up,  #trek Jasper Stuyven put in a huge dig with teammate Mads Pedersen on his wheel and the  #champdk Danish Champion finished it off in some style to take the stage and race lead.

"To win on Kiddesvej is like it is for a french rider to win on Alpe d’Huez"
DANISH DYNAMITE

(http://i67.tinypic.com/mju9t3.jpg)




https://youtu.be/REox_Gwn02Y

Only one thing to blight my happiness today and that was seeing #astana Matti Breschel hit the deck in a freak but ugly looking crash. He was sat on the verge with someone supporting his head and I thought he was out of the race, but he got back on the bike and finished - I'm not sure how, or even if he ought to have. Waiting to hear stage report. Damn but he has no luck  :TT :TT :TT


https://twitter.com/Procyclingeu/status/908371369880117248




Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 15, 2017, 09:36
On the morning of the ITT, #roskilde Team Giant-Castelli woke up to having had their van broken into, and all the team's ITT bikes were stolen.
:angry

However, they will still start today, as #sunweb (who also ride Giant) and #colocult (Cannondale) will loan the team their bikes.
:cool

I hope that this after the initial shock, this will give the riders some extra motivation for the ITT, riding with anger in their bellies - so that Quaade wins the stage and Casper P gets on the GC podium.
 :shh
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 15, 2017, 10:03
On the morning of the ITT, #roskilde Team Giant-Castelli woke up to having had their van broken into, and all the team's ITT bikes were stolen.
:angry

However, they will still start today, as #sunweb (who also ride Giant) and #colocult (Cannondale) will loan the team their bikes.
:cool

I hope that this after the initial shock, this will give the riders some extra motivation for the ITT, riding with anger in their bellies - so that Quaade wins the stage and Casper P gets on the GC podium.
 :shh

I just read this Lukas. What a horrible thing to happen, I think the thieves had tried other teams too. It's happening far too often. So pleased other teams have stepped up to help and they can ride. Though it's always difficult to ride a strange bike I guess. A Quaade performance and Casper being feisty would be wonderful for the team - they've really stepped up here and enlivened the racing. Even yesterday they gave it everything and Casper fought his way back like a tiger.
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 15, 2017, 10:19
I just read this Lukas. What a horrible thing to happen, I think the thieves had tried other teams too. It's happening far too often.
Let's call it what it is: Organised crime.
This isn't something that your local burglar does on a whim; you need channels to get the bikes sold, information about where the teams stay ... at the very least you need to check the UCI calendar to find out when there's a bike race on and where.

Races should seriously consider hiring security for race hotels. At the very least, ensure that parking lots etc. are well-lit throughout the night, and make the night staff aware of the risk, so that they have an eye on it.
And I also feel that the police should step in, form a European special commission to investigate these crimes and hopefully catch the perpetrators.
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 15, 2017, 10:42
Let's call it what it is: Organised crime.
This isn't something that your local burglar does on a whim; you need channels to get the bikes sold, information about where the teams stay ... at the very least you need to check the UCI calendar to find out when there's a bike race on and where.

Races should seriously consider hiring security for race hotels. At the very least, ensure that parking lots etc. are well-lit throughout the night, and make the night staff aware of the risk, so that they have an eye on it.
And I also feel that the police should step in, form a European special commission to investigate these crimes and hopefully catch the perpetrators.

Yep you're right, it's organised crime not just some local chancer. Those bikes and wheels and helmets are already out of the country. It's Europe wide with incidents in Italy, France and now Denmark.  iirc Virtu Concept had equipment stolen at GP Viborg too. With the value of such equipment tempting, it seems easy for the gangs to target to smaller races. I hope TGC have the insurance to cover this, but that's not going to help solve the problem. I've seen some comments along the lines of 'why don't teams learn'. But what else are they to do? The bikes  and all that goes with them must be stored somewhere. As I understand it the van was locked, but that means nothing to a determined gang with all the know how. Secure parking at the very least.
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 15, 2017, 11:24
Virtu Concept
VéloCONCEPT. That was the old name. Virtu is the new name. ;)
But Virtu was also part of the team's name for a few months last year, as "Virtu Pro-VéloCONCEPT".
Talk about confusing! :S
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: Not My Circus on September 15, 2017, 11:46
VéloCONCEPT. That was the old name. Virtu is the new name. ;)
But Virtu was also part of the team's name for a few months last year, as "Virtu Pro-VéloCONCEPT".
Talk about confusing! :S

hahahah given I STILL call Orica Orica Greenedge... this is hardly surprising ;p
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 15, 2017, 13:28
The ITT start order can be found here (http://live.postnorddanmarkrundt.dk/event/4873/participants)

During the ITT (starts 14:58, so in half an hour) live times should show up here (http://live.postnorddanmarkrundt.dk/event/4873/results)
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 15, 2017, 13:48
Taking a page from search's book, here are the start times of the more interesting riders (good timetrialists, and GC guys):
Time Team Name Nat.
15:06:00 #colocult Mathias Krigbaum *dk
15:09:00 #roskilde Jakob Egholm *dk
15:15:00 #trek Matthias Brändle *at
15:25:00 #colocult Martin Mortensen *dk
15:30:00 #sunweb Ramon Sinkeldam *nl
15:35:00 #novonordisk Joonas Henttala *fi
15:44:00 #riwal #kom Andreas Stokbro *dk
15:53:00 #roskilde Casper Folsach *dk
15:56:00 #virtu Andreas Hyldgaard *dk
16:06:00 #bornholm #champdk Martin Toft *dk
16:08:00 #virtu Michael Carbel *dk
16:11:00 #virtu Niklas Larsen *dk
16:13:00 #sunweb Max Kanter *de
16:22:00 #colocult Rasmus Bøgh Wallin *dk
16:24:00 #astana Truls Korsæth *no
16:34:00 #roompot Elmar Reinders *nl
16:39:00 #teamdk Asbjørn Kragh *dk
16:44:00 #riwal #white Jonas Gregaard *dk
16:46:00 #vlaanderen Dries van Gestel *be
16:48:00 #virtu Alexander Kamp *dk
16:50:00 #wanty Marco Minnaard *nl
16:52:00 #direct Fabien Grellier *fr
16:54:00 #roompot Pieter Weening *nl
16:56:00 #roskilde #green Casper Pedersen *dk
16:58:00 #virtu Rasmus Guldhammer *dk
17:00:00 #sunweb Lennard Hofstede *nl
17:02:00 #astana Michael Valgren *dk
17:04:00 #trek #lblue Mads Pedersen *dk
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 15, 2017, 14:22
During the ITT (starts 14:58, so in half an hour) live times should show up here (http://live.postnorddanmarkrundt.dk/event/4873/results)
You know what would be nice?
If this live-timing auto-updated so that one wouldn't have to hit F5 every 30 seconds ... :S

Anyhow, #colocult Krigbaum with the best split time (after 11.9 km) by far until now. Egholm doesn't look like a challenger, probably because of the unfamiliar bike - he's way behind at the first time check.

Post Merge: September 15, 2017, 14:49
#colocult Krigbaum did set a first benchmark with 21'50" ...
... only to have it smashed by #trek Matthias Brändle who finished in 20'57"!

And now the rain has started in Randers, so it's entirely possible that Brändle's time will not be bested.
Title: Re: PostNord Danmark Rundt
Post by: LukasCPH on September 15, 2017, 16:47
#trek Brändle stays in the hotseat for 150 minutes, then he can celebrate his stage win. Nobody comes even close - partly because of the rain that fell during the middle part and that slowed e.g. #champdk Martin Toft down.
The rain stopped for the GC top-10, though they may still have had wet or damp roads. Mads Pedersen, Michael Valgren, and Casper Pedersen gave it everything they had, and all placed in the stage top-10. Valgren challenged Mads P, but the young #trek rider held up and finished in the same time as his #astana compatriot. #roskilde Casper P leapfrogged Guldhammer and Hofstede, and is now on the new GC podium ahead of tomorrow's final stage to Aarhus.


And Mads P will have to do without one valuable team member tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/veloropa/status/908717157328007168
Remember that the circuit in Aarhus isn't as easy as the one in Frederiksberg, and a sprint is far from a certainty. With possible bonus seconds at the finish (and intermediate sprints), a gap of just a few seconds would be enough for Valgren to still defend his 2016 victory.

Of course, there'll still be Stuyven, Degenkolb, Rast etc. left to support Mads P. But:
This race isn't over yet!