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Title: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 17, 2017, 20:42
Hi all, and welcome to the 2018 CQ Ranking Manager Game! This is the eighth edition of the game. Please see below for some history, basics, and more specific rules related to dates, dopers, etc.

History

The game was launched on December 8th 2010 (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=13361) by cyclingnews forum poster Hugo Koblet. His idea was to have a game where you build a cycling team from the website cqranking.com (http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/start.asp) and its comprehensive numerical rankings of riders. What was originally meant to be a 25-team max competition that Hugo reserved the right to cancel if there was lack of interest became the most successful game in cyclingnews forum history, and has expanded to velorooms forums as well.

Hugo successfully ran the game for 3 years, and it bred various offshoots, such as a youth game, seasonal games (classics and GTs), emerging riders and riders in decline games. I took over organizing the main game for 2014 when Hugo got too busy, and have done so for the past four years.

Some statistics:

2011 – 87 participants
1. ingsve – 13897 points
2. Waterloo Sunrise – 13450
3. mc_mountain – 12670

2012 – 129 participants
1. skidmark – 19345 points
2. Kvinto – 18087
3. Nyssinator – 17761

2013 – 132 participants
1. SteelyDan – 13094 points
2. Geraint Too Fast – 13074
3. will10 – 12986

2014 – 150 participants
1. Pentacycle – 14367 points
2. Cykeltyven – 13693
3. Ruudz0r - 13609

2015 – 155 participants
1. Cykeltyven – 16209 points
2. skidmark - 15616
3. snccdcno - 15412

2016 – 144 participants
1. skidmark – 15392 points
2. jeroenk - 14707
3. abbulf - 14448

2017 – 131 participants
1. fauniera – 15867 points
2. the asian - 15698
3. GP Blanco - 15217

That is it for preamble. Let’s go through the more comprehensive set of rules:

Basics

The game is based on the point system developed by the website www.cqranking.com (http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/start.asp). Based on this system you will have to select a team of between 25 and 33 riders whose combined value doesn’t exceed 7500 points. 7500 points is a fair bit under the mean for the ProTour teams whose mean for 2016 is 8891. 7500 was closest to the amount of points UAE Team Emirates made during the 2016 season, the 13th ranked of the 18 WT teams. At the end of the 2017 season it was generally accepted that the simplicity of having a 'round' 7500 to spend worked well, so it will be kept at 7500 points for the 2018 CQ Game too. 

Your aim then is to select a team of riders who will increase their 2017 score the most during the 2018 season. The winner of the game is the one who has selected the team with the highest combined value when the game ends.


1. How the game works

1.1. Start & Finish
The season starts when the first race giving CQ points is held (which is the Aussie National TT Championships on January 5th) and ends when the last major race (.1 or higher) is held. The winner will be crowned when the next update after the last major race is out.*

*An extension will be granted to the end of season if it is very close at the top. If any teams are within 100 points of the leader after the last major race, the season will be automatically extended until the final race of the year unless all teams within 100 points explicitly concede. As well, anyone in the top 10 can extend the season by PMing me a request to do so before the last major race starts.

(The reason for this rule is that although minor races go through December, it is rare to have a rider in the game participate in these races, so it is sensible to end the season when people are still generally watching cycling. But if it's a very close race, it's important to crown the person who picked the best team for the year.)

1.2 Updates
Each week we will publish an update with a top 10 and a list of the high scorers and high jumpers. This will sometimes be by me, and sometimes by others – I will be setting a tentative schedule based on volunteers.

2. On doping

2.1. On ex-dopers
All riders are available to choose, except for riders who are provisionally suspended by the UCI, as of their most recent list:

~pdf http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/CleanSport/17/63/88/20171214ProvisionalsuspensionsEN_English.PDF

Riders who have been suspended for doping and had that affect their 2016 score will not be available simply for their 2016 score. Instead, a rider’s value will be equivalent to that of his last full season; or, if he has more recently had a (not full, due to suspension) season in which he has earned more points, that season represents his value. Riders who have been suspended by the UCI (ie. Not merely provisionally suspended) are on this list:

~pdf http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/CleanSport/17/32/52/20171215SanctionADRVENG2.0_English.pdf

Therefore, you can pick any rider you like, but if you want to take Michael Bresciani, for example, his positive result and suspension came from 2017, meaning his last 'full' season was 2016, in which he scored 5 points. However, since he scored more in his 'partial' 2017 season, his cost is instead the 8 points he scored in that season.

Hopefully the lists I've provided and the rules are clear enough, but if you make an error I will try to let you know if any of your submissions fall into this category.

2.2. Riders getting caught during the season
If you include a rider in your team who gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar, nothing happens right away. Your rider keeps his points unless the cqranking.com deletes his results before the end of the game.

Basically, the value of a rider on cqranking.com always stands.

3. Submitting your team
(see next post)
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 17, 2017, 20:44
3. Submitting your team

3.1. How do I?

You pick between 25 and 33 riders whose combined value doesn’t exceed 7500 points and send the list to me.

As I will manually have to include the teams into the Microsoft Excel file which keeps track of the scores, please be careful that you send your team to me based on the correct formula. I don’t take any responsibility for any error you might make. If I spot an error I will do my best to contact you but I can’t guarantee anything. Of course, if you have any questions feel free to ask either here in this thread or by sending a personal message.

The layout you need to use is this:

VAN AVERMAET Greg
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
Etc.

Nothing else. No points after the name. Also, be careful that there is no “space” after the name, because I will have to delete it manually, but can't always detect these things in time for the game. If there is an error that isn't discovered until after the game starts, the rider will simply be deleted from the team without replacement.

To make things easier for both you and me I will link to a file for you to download in which you can type in your team and it will automatically show you the value of each rider as well as the aggregated value of your team. Then you will just have to copy your team (names only) directly from this file and send it to me.

Hopefully this clears any misunderstandings of a rider’s value as well as reduces the number of errors made in a team sent to me.

3.2. When do I?
The first race of the season will start January 5, so I want to have your team in hand on January 3 at the latest.

There are two deadlines: a submission deadline and a revision/publication deadline, spaced 24 hours apart. This is to address the issue brought up in recent years about whether it is 'fair' to allow changes after teams have seen the teams of other players, and for 'late' submissions. I would like to make this a game that is accessible to as many people as possible, yet preserve that element of fairness. So, the submission deadline will be when I want to have received all the teams. The revision and publication deadline is to allow a 24-hour period for me to look over the teams and allow a chance to people to change their team in case of error, before having access to a list of riders that other teams picked. If you get mixed up with the time zone or unexpectedly don't have internet access around the submission deadline, I will accept teams up to the revision deadline at my discretion, but if allowed those teams will not have the chance to revise in case of error.

The submission deadline is 23:59 (CET) January 2nd, so early January 3rd for Aussies and sometime earlier on January 2nd for North Americans. The revision and publication deadline is 24 hours later; I would ask that people refrain from posting the riders on their team until after that, so midnight CET on the start of January 4th.

Please note that even though it feels as though the season is over, it’s actually not. There are still racing to be done and CQ points to be handed out that could affect the value of a rider you have picked. It is always possible that an obscure rider may score points in a small race at the end of season, or that CQ will adjust points for an earlier season race for whatever reason (eg. readjusting points for suspended dopers) Be mindful of these changes.

cqranking.com usually uploads the final update of the season on December 31, and the values in this update are the ones we’re using. However, the changes are usually very small so there’s no reason why you can’t start selecting your team already today!

**Disclaimer: ensuring your team is full of eligible riders and is on budget is your responsibility. If I notice you are over budget or have an ineligible rider I will send you a message, but if you don't get back to me in time, or I don't catch it before the deadline, I will simply remove one rider to make your budget work. Obviously it is to your advantage to be able to choose all your riders, so please be diligent.**

Create Your Team

Hugo created a very helpful file in 2012, referred to above, that helps avoid any errors in calculation and helps ensure you are formatting your rider names correctly. I would encourage everyone to use this option, especially if you are not confident in your spreadsheet creating skills. Please use the file attached here (http://www.dropbox.com/s/o7nkmykout3ltm0/Create%20Your%20Team%202018.xls?dl=0) to create your team, then copy and paste the rider names to send to me by PM once you have it correct. Thank you.

**note: the 'create your team' file has not yet been manually updated to include different scores for dopers as per rule 2.1, so it is currently wholly your responsibility to account for this.**

I think that about covers everything. If you have any questions or if I forgot to add or explain anything, please let me know.

Have fun and remember to visit www.cqranking.com! Without their great work it wouldn’t be possible to have this game.

This game is also being run through cyclingnews.com forums, and you can submit a team to me through either here or there. Updates will also be posted to both places.

Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 17, 2017, 20:58
This post is reserved for updates of teams as they come in. If you've submitted a team and it doesn't show up here within 24 hours, please contact me. If your team is up and has an asterisk beside it, it means it was received but you have to make changes before it's finalized (you will have been sent a PM by me specifying what needs to be changed).

Here are the 128 participating teams in the 2018 edition:

18.valve(pithy)
abbulf
adamski101
Akuryo
AlyKaptan
Amis Velo
ansimi
Archieboy
Armchair Cyclist
armchairclimber
AupaPyama
barmaher
Bicycle Boy
Blues in the bottle
bminchow
bort
Brullnux
Carlo Algatrensig
ChrisDK
comodoro
CQManager
Crevaison
del1962
derrudi
DFA123
DJ Sprtsch
DJW
drebelo
escartin
EvansIsTheBest
Eyeballs Out
fauniera
Ferminal
flashke
freshman
Geraint Too Fast
Giallo
Gigs_98
Googolplex
Gotland
GP Blanco
greenedge
Guilherme Ribero
Guybrush
Hakkie2
HelgeBlendet
Hugo Koblet
Jakob 747
Jancouver
Joelsim
Jon_Ezeitza
Josedin
Jpettersen
jsem94
Jspear
kabete
karaev
Kazistuta
kiilike
kiszol
Kjellus
Koronin
Krokro
Kryvo
laarsland
LaFlorecita
Leadbelly
LightBing
Londonpat
LosBrolin
l'velo
Maaaaaarten
MADRAZO
manafana
Martin
Mellow Velo
minessa
monsieur_hulot
NairoQ
Nathanptz
Nicosix
NorthAmericanScum
nuvolablu
Object
oliveira
Pantani1
PeterB
Poles & Co.
Popchu
postmanhat
PremierAndrew
repre
Riverside
rote_laterne
Roubaix
ruvu75
SafeBet
Salvarani
scrooll07
search
shalgo
Shawnm4747
simple
skidmark
Slapshot
Sneekes
sodak_za
Squire
the asian
TheArt
Tigerion
tom-jelte
torcia_86
Total Package
trackstand
triley36
Trudgin
Valv.Piti
VeloRooms
Vesica
vladimir
Wallenquist
will10
WKA311
Yellow Knight
yoyokt
zaka_fan
zlev11
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on December 17, 2017, 23:37
Hey all, I'm having some trouble with the forum - when I tried to post the whole first post it kept kicking me out of the forum entirely. [snip]
Cleanup on aisle five! Can I have a techie, please!? :D

I have no idea what's going on, or how to fix it.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Francois the Postman on December 18, 2017, 02:57
Ailse five crew arrived with bucket. Reported Skidmarks being coned off.





[edit] ... should all be ok now.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on December 18, 2017, 10:52
My team is in.

I think I have this in the bag.

 :P
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on December 18, 2017, 11:30
3rd January, 16 days!!!!

 :o :( :(

What's happening with youth and 2018 to 2020?? although I may be dead by 2020.... to big a milestone

Just noticed its my 1000th post... another milestone  :cool
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on December 18, 2017, 16:44
My team is in.

I think I have this in the bag.

 :P

Ingsve said that in the first edition, and was right.
Are you equally confident?
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on December 18, 2017, 16:48
3rd January, 16 days!!!!

 :o :( :(

What's happening with youth and 2018 to 2020?? although I may be dead by 2020.... to big a milestone

Just noticed its my 1000th post... another milestone  :cool

Congratulations on the megapost.

2018-20 Emerging riders game will be formally launched around New Year, but by all means you can start thinking about it.  It'll be the same as previously: 18 riders, maximum lifetime CQ total to 31/12/17 of 199.  If he would be on 200+ but for points deducted due to sanctions, he is not allowed.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on December 18, 2017, 17:10
3rd January, 16 days!!!!

 :o :( :(

What's happening with youth and 2018 to 2020?? although I may be dead by 2020.... to big a milestone

Just noticed its my 1000th post... another milestone  :cool
youth later this week
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 18, 2017, 17:21
Ailse five crew arrived with bucket. Reported Skidmarks being coned off.

<img src="http://i68.tinypic.com/2f07nza.jpg" style = "width:100%;">




[edit] ... should all be ok now.

Thanks for the help Francois! I could only get back to this now so your help is much appreciated.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on December 19, 2017, 16:29
Yeah enough tinkering from me.

Might as well get the team in early in case VR blows up over Xmas again! :P

Fingers crossed for no injuries/failed tests/reallocated points before the Aussie Nats.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on December 24, 2017, 15:54
Team Leadbelly

WT - 7
PCT - 15
CT - 10
Club - 1

Pretty similar to last year. A couple more PCT-ers in place of WT riders.

Spain and Colombia lead the way with four riders each, but the number of escarabajos is an outlier to a fairly Euro-centric team - no Laotians this time!

How about everyone else?
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on December 24, 2017, 18:52
sorry, does the team go to Skidmark of Armchair Cyclist?
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on December 24, 2017, 20:02
Skidmark of Armchair Cyclist?

Eh?! :D

It's skids you send it to.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on December 24, 2017, 20:06
hahahaha he ability to type makes such a difference
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on December 24, 2017, 20:48
Okay my team is in - already had to change original..  the breakdown surprises my a bit.  :o


7 - CT
14 PCT
11 WT


Nationalities  :o :o :o :o

*co  6
*es - 12
*fr - 7
*ie - 1
*ru - 1
*sk - 1
*it - 4  :( :(

I think i've picked 12 Spanish in an attempt to find the next Alberto

Ok teams

1 #adria  #ag2r #amore  #androni  #astana  #bahrain  #bardiani  #cajarural  #cofidis  #coldeportes  #direct  #jlt #katusha #manzana #nippo #roubaix  #sky #trek #wanty #porto

2  #movistar  #quickstep #wilier

4 #murias

and a Polartec - cant find a kit for it.

 :lol :lol




Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 25, 2017, 20:13
Just a note - Flo found a few riders with different scores while putting together the youth game. Please remember to double check the current 2017 scores as displayed on the CQ site, rather than just going off the last (November 26th) spreadsheet.

However, I am manually entering the correct scores of relevant riders into the 'create your team' spreadsheet as well as the game spreadsheet I am using to enter the teams, so if you notice someone with a score discrepancy who might be relevant to the game, please let me know and I'll try to update it so people won't be confused. Thanks!
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on December 28, 2017, 00:02
My team :cool

Points
500+:      3
400-500:  4
300-400:  3
200-300:  6
100-200:  6
>100:      11

Teams
5 #trek  :o
4 #astana #quickstep
3 #bora
2 #bardiani #sky :o :o
1 #ag2r #burgos #bahrain #bmc #cofidis #didata #efd #fdj #israel #orica #sunweb #vlaanderen #vitalconcept

Nationalities
11 *it :o
5 *fr
4 *co
3 *nl
2 *uk *no
1 *be *cz *es *ee *lt *ru

Age
>30:     2
28-30:  9
25-27:  5
22-24:  11
20-21:  6
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on December 28, 2017, 14:15
My team :cool

Points
500+:      3
400-500:  4
300-400:  3
200-300:  6
100-200:  6
>100:      11

Teams
5 #trek  :o
4 #astana #quickstep
3 #bora
2 #bardiani #sky :o :o
1 #ag2r #burgos #bahrain #bmc #cofidis #didata #efd #fdj #israel #orica #sunweb #vlaanderen #vitalconcept

Nationalities
11 *it :o
5 *fr
4 *co
3 *nl
2 *uk *no
1 *be *cz *es *ee *lt *ru

Age
>30:     2
28-30:  9
25-27:  5
22-24:  11
20-21:  6

I have passed my Italians to Floof - 1 Spanish Flo whats that all about

I will do my teams  :o
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 31, 2017, 00:36
Okay, I was off grid for a couple of days but have caught up on the submissions. As of the end of the day (in Canada) on December 30th, there are 39 teams - the exact number of submissions that we had last year at the end of this day. Keep em coming, tell your friends!

Thanks to all who have participated so far. Just a note - when submitting names, please make sure to include the proper spelling, which includes accents and umlauts and the like over letters in the name. The best resource is the CQ spreadsheet - you can copy/paste a name from there if you're not sure about how to make the accents etc.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: jon ezeitza on December 31, 2017, 15:34
¿A qué dirección o e-mail debo enviar mi equipo?
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Francois the Postman on December 31, 2017, 17:41
¿A qué dirección o e-mail debo enviar mi equipo?

I have sent your list to Skidmark.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: jon ezeitza on December 31, 2017, 18:31
Thank you very much.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 31, 2017, 22:17
Alright, new years update! There are 53 teams received so far, exactly how many there were at the end of December 31st last year (and the deadline was the same day as this year). If we have an influx of teams in the last two days like last year we will end up with similar numbers.

The CQ December 31st update came out as well, so I've programmed that into the Create Your Team spreadsheet - that means if you click on the link in the original post, you can check your team officially to make sure the score matches up.

I'm on a trip this week so I'll try to keep on top of the entries, but there may be a bit of a delay in getting the spreadsheet out after the deadline. I will do my best to respond to the entries as they come in, though.

Happy New Year all!
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 02, 2018, 01:26
Hey everyone, just a note that the submission deadline is a little less than 24 hours away! But after that, there is a buffer period for revisions of teams that need changes (I receive so many in the last day of entry that I can't confirm them all right away). So I'd ask folks to refrain from posting their teams until 23:59pm CET on the 3rd (basically, midnight on the 4th) when all of the entries and revisions have come in. Thanks, keep the entries coming!
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: ansimi on January 02, 2018, 01:32
Making my CQ team has become my New Year's Day tradition!

It seems hard this year. None of the expensive riders are looking like great deals to me. When in doubt, I pick riders I like :D

Pretty sure it will be my youngest team ever. I think a lot of my picks will be riders who got more points in 2017 than in 2016. I'd be interested to hear the 2016 totals for players' 2018 teams.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 02, 2018, 09:04
I have spent 90% of today searching for zero pointers...... :=B :=B :=B

And then checking for 2018 :flustered

just in case anyone missed it... (as I did): there's a Zero Pointers CQ Game on CN:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=33799

if you want to participate, just pick 10 zero pointers and send them to "rote_laterne" over there
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Arb on January 02, 2018, 09:29
I only worked out this time around that it seems the zero point list is sorted by something relevant (can't work it out exactly as it's not points, maybe days raced or time since first race) so you don't need to go too deep.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 02, 2018, 10:10
just in case anyone missed it... (as I did): there's a Zero Pointers CQ Game on CN

I have a feeling we're going to see some very similar teams. Nevertheless I have thrown a quick team together.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 02, 2018, 10:56
I have a feeling we're going to see some very similar teams. Nevertheless I have thrown a quick team together.

yeah, I was think a same but sent in a quick team. My main team is off to Skidmark as well:

Points
500+: 4
400-500: 0
300-400: 0
200-300: 5
100-200: 8
<100: 16

Teams:
#worldtour 19
#proconti 8
#conti 6

Nationalities
*it *it *it *it *it *it *it
*es *es *es *es
*co *co *co
*gb *gb *gb
*be *be
*fr *fr
*au
*cr
*cz
*dk
*ee
*lt
*md
*nl
*no
*pt
*ch
*usa

Age
>30: 9
28-30: 14
25-27: 5
22-24: 2
<=21: 3
-> Average: 29
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Arb on January 02, 2018, 11:11
Pliuschin got a team?
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 02, 2018, 11:13
no idea. Even if, not sure I'd even consider him for the zero pointers game
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on January 02, 2018, 16:50
Harsh
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 02, 2018, 17:09
The winning team.

 *co  *co  *co  *co  *co
 *nl  *nl  *nl  *nl  *nl
 *be  *be  *be
 *fr  *fr  *fr
 *gb  *gb
 *it  *it  *it  *it
 *usa  *usa  *usa  *usa
 *cz
 *es  *es
 *no
 *au
 *ru
 *ee

500+: 5
400-500: 2
300-400: 2
200-300: 5
100-200: 8
<100: 11

 
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 02, 2018, 17:44
The winning team

thanks for giving us a bit of a chance by using only 30 or 31 of your available spots though :P
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 02, 2018, 17:47
thanks for giving us a bit of a chance by using only 30 or 31 of your available spots though :P


Bah humbug.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 02, 2018, 17:51

Bah humbug.

still two more flags you need to add, even after the edit  :shh
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 02, 2018, 17:58
still two more flags you need to add, even after the edit  :shh

Sorted. Have you and Lukas ever been seen together in the same room?
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 02, 2018, 18:13
ay
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 02, 2018, 22:04
*md
:cool

Pliuschin got a team?
Pliuschin is so 2012.
Raileanu is the new hot sh*t!
Maybe I should dig out the photo I got with him at the Giro del Friuli-Venezia Giulia in ... 2012. :o

Have you and Lukas ever been seen together in the same room?
No comment. :-x :P

Having prioritised Christmas family time over scrunching CQ lists, I'm sitting this one out. It's not as if I'd won anyway.
Have fun, everyone! :hi
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 03, 2018, 00:11
1000+ : 1
500+ : 2
250 + : 4
125 +: 9
62+: 9
31+: 3
0+: 5


30+: 8  (that doesn't look such a good idea now I look at it)
27+: 8
24+: 9
21+: 8


 *be 6
 *co  *gb  *it 4
 *nl  *ru 2
 *by  *cz  *dk  *es  *ee  *fr  *no  *si  *sk   *ch  *usa 1

WT:
 #bora   #sky  4
#bmc #quickstep  3
 #efd   #lotto  #trek  #katusha 2
#ag2r #astana  #bahrain #didata  #movistar   #orica  #sunweb  #uae 1

PCT:
 #aquablue   #gazprom  #vital 1

I suspect I have too many sprinters who will take points off each other.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 03, 2018, 01:59
Hey guys, so I got swamped with CN messages today, but I cleared up all of VRs. If you aren't on this list, please bug me again (I decided to update in the thread instead of in the earlier post I was editing).

As of 8:00pm CST January 2nd, the following 99 teams have been submitted:

LaFlorecita
Martin
comodoro
Joelsim
Slapshot
Leadbelly
armchairclimber
oliveira
PremierAndrew
Trudgin
ChrisDK
Guilherme Ribero
EvansIsTheBest
scrooll07
bminchow
jsem94
Sneekes
laarsland
Nathanptz
Archieboy
will10
bort
Shawnm4747
Hakkie2
Total Package
vladimir
LosBrolin
escartin
fauniera
Guybrush
Blues in the bottle
Crevaison
Akuryo
rote_laterne
derrudi
Nicosix
Poles & Co.
Object
nuvolablu
Jon_Ezeitza
Armchair Cyclist
Koronin
GP Blanco
Jpettersen
Salvarani
DJ Sprtsch
PeterB
Ferminal
Gigs_98
monsieur_hulot
AupaPyama
Roubaix
del1962
VeloRooms
Giallo
DJW
Popchu
Squire
Wallenquist
Jancouver
Kryvo
Carlo Algatrensig
tom-jelte
abbulf
simple
manafana
Jakob 747
Kazistuta
MADRAZO
Vesica
Riverside
search
trackstand
shalgo
freshman
zlev11
NairoQ
Mellow Velo
Jspear
Hugo Koblet
Kjellus
DFA123
kiilike
Amis Velo
Maaaaaarten
adamski101
flashke
ansimi
NorthAmericanScum
Valv.Piti
l'velo
Tigerion
triley36
SafeBet
LightBing
kabete
CQManager
Geraint Too Fast
sodak_za

also note that there are a bunch of CN teams I haven't processed yet and it should be closer to 125-130 final number.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Arb on January 03, 2018, 07:27
Pliuschin is so 2012.
Raileanu is the new hot sh*t!
Maybe I should dig out the photo I got with him at the Giro del Friuli-Venezia Giulia in ... 2012. :o
No comment. :-x :P

Nice, I did briefly consider him (because Torku)
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 03, 2018, 22:56
Hey everyone. We are minutes from the publication deadline! Just an update - I am catching up on the last handful of entries from yesterday and changes from today. There are 3-4 teams that need changes that I haven't heard from, if I don't in the next ten minutes I'm just going to drop the rider that brings them under 7500, as is the usual rule.

Unfortunately I won't be able to post the full spreadsheet with popularity etc for some time; it's taken all my free time just to copy names into the spreadsheet on each team's sheet. This deadline comes in the middle of a driving trip for me, and I have to take free time for this when I can get it. Just a heads up, I'll try to do what I can, but it might be up to 24 hours before the whole spreadsheet is done, so you might have to satisfy yourselves with the teams that are revealed here until then. Sorry, doing my best here!

I also haven't had time to look at any posts on this thread, just the PMs, so if anyone has addressed me here, I'll get back to it once the compilation is done.

Good luck all, have fun discussing! I'll join you when I can.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 04, 2018, 00:08
Hey everyone. We are minutes from the publication deadline! Just an update - I am catching up on the last handful of entries from yesterday and changes from today. There are 3-4 teams that need changes that I haven't heard from, if I don't in the next ten minutes I'm just going to drop the rider that brings them under 7500, as is the usual rule.

Unfortunately I won't be able to post the full spreadsheet with popularity etc for some time; it's taken all my free time just to copy names into the spreadsheet on each team's sheet. This deadline comes in the middle of a driving trip for me, and I have to take free time for this when I can get it. Just a heads up, I'll try to do what I can, but it might be up to 24 hours before the whole spreadsheet is done, so you might have to satisfy yourselves with the teams that are revealed here until then. Sorry, doing my best here!

I also haven't had time to look at any posts on this thread, just the PMs, so if anyone has addressed me here, I'll get back to it once the compilation is done.

Good luck all, have fun discussing! I'll join you when I can.

Can’t you just work through the night to get it finished? This is vitally important to all entrants don’t you know. I personally won’t sleep until I know how many people have picked Joe Dombrowski.

 :lol
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 04, 2018, 00:13
My team


FELLINE Fabio
THEUNS Edward
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
OOMEN Sam
LATOUR Pierre
CONSONNI Simone
GAUDU David
VAN POPPEL Danny
CAVENDISH Mark
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan
COQUARD Bryan
BOSWELL Ian
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
RIVERA SERRANO Kevin
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
KENNAUGH Peter
JAKOBSEN Fabio
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
POWER Robert
PHILIPSEN Jasper
OWEN Logan
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
MAMYKIN Matvey
NIZZOLO Giacomo
KANGERT Tanel
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
CAPIOT Amaury
ALBANESE Vincenzo
COSTA Adrien
KÖNIG Leopold
PIDCOCK Thomas
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on January 04, 2018, 01:12
Team Flo  :cool :flo :cheer

FELLINE Fabio
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
OOMEN Sam
LATOUR Pierre
PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson
TERPSTRA Niki
BETTIOL Alberto
GAUDU David
SENECHAL Florian
MAS NICOLAU Enric
CAVENDISH Mark
COQUARD Bryan
FORMOLO Davide
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
ROSA Diego
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
MINALI Riccardo
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
KENNAUGH Peter
TURGIS Anthony
JAKOBSEN Fabio
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas
MAMYKIN Matvey
NIZZOLO Giacomo
CONCI Nicola
KANGERT Tanel
GUARDINI Andrea
CAPIOT Amaury
ALBANESE Vincenzo
MOSER Moreno
KÖNIG Leopold
ENGER Sondre Holst
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Jancouver on January 04, 2018, 04:11
Once again, a little bit of creativity plus many fan/heart picks.

SAGAN Peter   2296
Obvious fan pick but he had some bad luck last year during the classics and was kicked out of the TDF. He is very consistent and while still risky, he was at one point close to 4000 rolling points.

JUNGELS Bob   784
I picked Jungels over Angel Lopez as he was just a slightly more expensive and IMO has a better upside due to his TT and GC ambitions. Should be somewhat unique and I will keep watching his points vs Lopez

CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   505
Obvious Pick

MCLAY Daniel   304
He got some speed but I was not sure about him because Cannondale riders are usually underperforming but at the end, I picked him too just because he may be a not so common pick
 
VAN POPPEL Danny   287
Same as above, he got some speed and doubling his points should be doable

BONIFAZIO Niccolo   276
Not sure why, but I keep adding this guy year after year and I'm hoping that even a broken clock can be right once in a while.

CAVENDISH Mark   257
Obvious Pick

RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan   236
I was really impressed by his last year performance during the Australian season and also thought that he may be somewhat unique

COQUARD Bryan   220
Obvious Pick

KÄMNA Lennard   220
He can TT so he got a big German engine. Should be somewhat unique.

FORMOLO Davide   217
Obvious Pick

MORTON Lachlan   217
He can climb and had some bad luck. My dark horse for one week GC races. Should have half of his points back after the TDU?

ROSA Diego   209
Obvious Pick

VLIEGEN Loïc   179
Still young and should be able to double his points

WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads   160
Junior TT champ, classic guy. Now that Kristoff is gone, he should get more opportunities at Katusha

HALVORSEN Kristoffer   151
Young guy with some speed. No wonder SKY picked him up. Should be popular, perhaps even an obvious Pick

SCHLEGEL Michal   147
He can climb, still young. Now that Jan Hirt is gone, he should be the GC leader for CCC. Hopefully, somewhat unique pick and I picked him over that infamous fat Colombian climber.

STANNARD Ian   135
Obvious Pick

JAKOBSEN Fabio   118
A young sprinter on QuickStep team. They know how to win and will back him up even in those smaller races that Gaviria and Viviani are not riding.

NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas   77
Obvious Pick

NIZZOLO Giacomo   66
Obvious Pick

HAUSSLER Heinrich   60
Obvious Pick

KANGERT Tanel   58
Obvious Pick

DE BIE Sean   57
Obvious Pick

DANIEL Gregory   46
Had some bad luck last year. I like his aggressive style and should be somewhat unique

BARTA William   37
Local boy - heck, he was pushing 6kw/kg per hour since he was 15. Go BYRDS. Go Axeon!

PHINNEY Taylor   36
Obvious Pick

MCNULTY Brandon   35
Local boy and Junior TT champ who had some bad luck last year. No brainer.

FABBRO Matteo   30
He is young and he can climb. If he can keep the bike upright, he should be able to score some points.

MOSER Moreno   25
Obvious Pick

COSTA Adrien   27
Took some time off last year but still an obvious pick with too much upside not to have him. Gee, I even had him on my team last year at much higher cost so I would stupid not to put him back.

KÖNIG Leopold   10
Obvious Pick

INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat   0
Obvious Pick
   
Total:   7482
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 04, 2018, 08:01
I'll post my full team later, but going by the posts on here and on CN my most popular picks will be Lopez, Mas, Capiot and Enger. Funnily enough the max number of similarities with other teams is in that 4-5 rider range.

I'm sitting this one out. It's not as if I'd won anyway.

I'm disappointed in you Fus.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 04, 2018, 08:15
I'm disappointed in you Fus.
Starting the new year how the old one ended! :win
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 04, 2018, 08:32
my 33 new friends for 2018:

VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      1828
PORTE Richie      1228
ALAPHILIPPE Julian      1011
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban      505
CAVENDISH Mark      257
REICHENBACH Sébastien      234
COQUARD Bryan      220
ROSA Diego      209
REBELLIN Davide      200
BRAMBILLA Gianluca      195
CELANO Danilo      170
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto      159
RIVERA SERRANO Kevin      155
KENNAUGH Peter      137
STANNARD Ian      135
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben      115
RAILEANU Cristian      107
GASPAROTTO Enrico      93
SCHULTING Peter      81
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas      77
NIZZOLO Giacomo      66
KANGERT Tanel      58
DE BIE Sean      57
VANDENBERGH Stijn      40
GUARDINI Andrea      39
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      32
COSTA Adrien      27
MANCEBO PEREZ Francisco      27
BRANDAO Joni Silva      17
KÖNIG Leopold      10
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres      9
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat      0
ENGER Sondre Holst      0
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Arb on January 04, 2018, 08:45
PORTE Richie   1228
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   1011
MOSCON Gianni   864
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   629
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   505
TERPSTRA Niki   417
PETIT Adrien   328
VAN POPPEL Danny   287
CAVENDISH Mark   257
DE PLUS Laurens   239
ROELANDTS Jürgen   228
COQUARD Bryan   220
REBELLIN Davide   200
POZZATO Filippo   175
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   159
KENNAUGH Peter   137
GASPAROTTO Enrico   93
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas   77
SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   72
NIZZOLO Giacomo   66
HAUSSLER Heinrich   60
KANGERT Tanel   58
GUARDINI Andrea   39
MANCEBO PEREZ Francisco   27
COSTA Adrien   27
MOSER Moreno   25
BOECKMANS Kris   19
FEILLU Romain   17
CRADDOCK Lawson   15
KÖNIG Leopold   10
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres   9
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat   0
HADDI Soufiane   0

Going to be my most "popular" team by far... definitely no uniques either.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 04, 2018, 10:21
my 33 new friends for 2018:

VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      1828
PORTE Richie      1228
ALAPHILIPPE Julian      1011
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban      505
CAVENDISH Mark      257
REICHENBACH Sébastien      234
COQUARD Bryan      220
ROSA Diego      209
REBELLIN Davide      200
BRAMBILLA Gianluca      195
CELANO Danilo      170
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto      159
RIVERA SERRANO Kevin      155
KENNAUGH Peter      137
STANNARD Ian      135
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben      115
RAILEANU Cristian      107
GASPAROTTO Enrico      93
SCHULTING Peter      81
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas      77
NIZZOLO Giacomo      66
KANGERT Tanel      58
DE BIE Sean      57
VANDENBERGH Stijn      40
GUARDINI Andrea      39
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      32
COSTA Adrien      27
MANCEBO PEREZ Francisco      27
BRANDAO Joni Silva      17
KÖNIG Leopold      10
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres      9
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat      0
ENGER Sondre Holst      0

No Superman  :o
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Arb on January 04, 2018, 10:24
I'm pretty cold on him after being let down in 2017 which was a guilt pick for consciously leaving him out in 2016.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 04, 2018, 10:25
I'm pretty cold on him after being let down in 2017 which was a guilt pick for consciously leaving him out in 2016.

It was an injury caused by a driver.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Arb on January 04, 2018, 11:04
I am aware of his season.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 04, 2018, 14:56
yeah, I don't really think it's going to hurt too much. I would be surprised if he scores >1000pt. But let's wait and see
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 04, 2018, 16:00
yeah, I don't really think it's going to hurt too much. I would be surprised if he scores >1000pt. But let's wait and see

How many do you get for winning the Giro and Vuelta, plus a few of the spring stage races? Oh, and a one day race or two too.

https://youtu.be/TDhQaUme_S0

 :P
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Mellow Velo on January 04, 2018, 17:07
 I must be the only person who managed to miss Bryan Coquard, yet pick somebody else on 220 points. :fp
The price of the last minute, post Christmas rush.
So much so, I thought at one point I'd be sitting it out with Lukas. :(
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 04, 2018, 19:03
I was considering to write a breakdown of my team but I can't really be bothered tbh. Most picks are more or less obvious anyway + two or three guys to potentially cheer for in Sibiu. Schulting could even be unique I guess

Of course, there are are other potential good picks as well (Lopez, Terpstra, Haussler, Craddock, Pippo and so on), but well, that's how it is. I really didn't want to pick Intxausti initially and I'm also not too confident about Reichenbach, but those are just too tough to leave out.

Celano will obviously score 1000+ :P
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on January 04, 2018, 19:12
Of course, there are are other potential good picks as well (Lopez, Terpstra, Haussler, Craddock, Pippo and so on), but well, that's how it is. I really didn't want to pick Intxausti initially and I'm also not too confident about Reichenbach, but those are just too tough to leave out.

Celano will obviously score 1000+ :P
Pippo is always a good pick

I didn't pick either Intxausti or Craddock. I had Craddock twice before and like someone else said, I've lost faith. Maybe he'll improve on his score; maybe he won't. Just not confident at all so I passed. Strongly considered Intxausti until I saw an interview a few weeks ago from which it sounded like he didn't really feel there was an end in sight. Of course he's 0 points so can't go wrong, but he does take up a spot.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 04, 2018, 19:25
yeah, Craddock will probably improve but with no real reason why he sucked so hard in 2017 I found it difficult to pick him
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on January 04, 2018, 19:37
I must be the only person who managed to miss Bryan Coquard, yet pick somebody else on 220 points. :fp
The price of the last minute, post Christmas rush.
So much so, I thought at one point I'd be sitting it out with Lukas. :(

I picked mine in a bit of a rush so I'm a bit worried I might have ended up doing something stupid like including a rider who is currently suspended or out long term with an injury.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on January 04, 2018, 19:40
Here they are.

The Algatrensig All Stars

KÖNIG Leopold
GUARNIERI Jacopo
CRADDOCK Lawson
COSTA Adrien
ALBANESE Vincenzo
CAPIOT Amaury
DECLERCQ Tim
PHINNEY Taylor
GUARDINI Andrea
DE BIE Sean
KANGERT Tanel
HAUSSLER Heinrich
NIZZOLO Giacomo
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas
MARTINELLI Davide
WALLAYS Jelle
PHILIPSEN Jasper
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian
TURGIS Anthony
STANNARD Ian
KENNAUGH Peter
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
ROSA Diego
COQUARD Bryan
CAVENDISH Mark
PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
BARGUIL Warren
THOMAS Geraint
YATES Adam
YATES Simon
KELDERMAN Wilco
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 04, 2018, 19:56
Okay, I spent a few hours on the spreadsheet and the popularity tab should be finished, as well as all the individual pages for teams. Here is the link (https://www.dropbox.com/s/y77xwfzq8ig4dlc/CQ%202018%20final.xlsx?dl=0).

The spreadsheet isn't finished yet, but it has the basics to look at all the teams and popularity of riders. Note that the "Popularity Table" tab doesn't have a current summary - there is an example table there from a couple of years ago (I use a template every year to collect teams) but fiddled around with the pivot table and couldn't get it to work in the few minutes I had. If someone is interested in doing that work and posting the updated spreadsheet here, feel free, otherwise I'll do it after the weekend.

Also note that all the links in the first Rankings page go to the current teams, but if you just tab through the team tabs there will be some empty teams - again, this is because I used a template which has tabs for past teams in case they come back (it's handy to have it already there). I'll clean that up before the updates come out, but didn't have time now and just wanna get this info out because I know it's fun to peruse.

It looks like we have 129 teams this year - I have 128 on my list, so I must have missed one when I was keeping track as they came in. That's great, right on par with last year. We had 28 teams leave this year, which is a pretty good retention rate, although some of the names that left have been with us for a long time. We had 19 new teams, and a handful of returnees who have played before but not last year. There were 32 teams signed up through VeloRooms and 97 through cyclingnews.

That's it for me today - good luck everyone! It's lovely to see that this game continues to have robust participation and appreciation. Thanks for playing all.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 04, 2018, 20:10
Schulting could even be unique I guess

.....or not. :angel
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 04, 2018, 20:36
yeah, yeah, well, Celano is though, even better
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 04, 2018, 21:40
In homage to the Collective Team (kinda).

The Zero Point Rider(s)

ADAMIETZ Johannes
ENGER Sondre Holst
NIV Guy
SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio

Adamietz is the youthful Deutscher Bergmeister off to join Tirol where he should get a good calendar. Samitier should get plenty of freedom at Murias.

Who?

OTRUBA Jakub

I deliberately went out of my way to get a literal "who?" rider. It wasn't a complete eyes shut pick as I narrowed it down to a handful of teams first (lots of race days for the team in 2017), but despite riding l'Avenir I'd never heard of him before......and we may never hear of him again. Who knows?

The African(s)

EYOB Metkel
KIPKEMBOI Salim

Eyob is off to Asia and I think it's the right move for him - lots of races and hopefully visas will be less of an issue. Kipkemboi has only just turned 19, but has some nice results.

The Injured One(s)

CAPIOT Amaury
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas

Vingegaard has been named as the best U23 Danish rider by no less an authority than Fus. Broke his leg in 2017.

The Random Eastern European(s)

KUMP Marko
RAILEANU Cristian

Kump is Goldilocks. WT is too hot and CT is too cold. Let's hope PCT is just right.

GC rider(s)

VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
PORTE Richie
HERMANS Ben
ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo

My overall position will probably depend on the performance of the first two.

The Colombian Climber(s)

LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro
MONTOYA MONTOYA Javier Ignacio

Sosa trumps Rivera imo in the Androni face-off. Cheaper and, ignoring points scored, more impressive performances. As for Montoya, I wanted someone from Trevigiani, but couldn't decide between him and Robinson Lopez. A drugs bust removed the conundrum.

The CX-er

RUSSO Clément

Impressed me at Beauce. Not as quick as Carbel or Welten (probably), but a better all rounder.

Sprinter

SBARAGLI Kristian

Will hopefully stop getting his bikes nicked.

Young Sprinter(s)

SOTO MARTINEZ Nelson Andres
EINHORN Itmar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH3VszD6F4M

2m29 for Soto's long sprint with Avila unable to do anything.

The Continental Dominator

SCHULTING Peter

Two of us think so anyway.

Young ITT specialist(s)

SCHACHMANN Maximilian
PORZNER Manuel

A bit more than just TT-ers. Schach-attack can climb and Porzner can sprint.

Young GC rider(s)

MARTIN Guillaume
MAS NICOLAU Enric
DUNBAR Eddie

The categories are starting to get a bit more stretched as the reason I opted for Martin were his one day performances.

The Domestique(s)

HAIG Jack
BETTIOL Alberto
MÜLLER Patrick

I'm obviously hoping this isn't the case for this trio and they get plenty of chances of their own, but they could end up working a lot for Coquard/GVA/Yates/Chaves.

The Pretty Boy

SIMON CASULLERAS Jordi

The Next Big Thing™

IDJOUADIENE Pierre

Well he has a big surname.

------------------------------------------------------------

The one area my team is lacking in is cobbles riders, but hey ho, you can only pick what is available. Maybe Bettiol can get some freedom in the smaller Northern Classics to give me some interest there.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 04, 2018, 22:17
ah, I didn't have a detailed look at who exactly denied me from having more unique picks...  :angry
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 05, 2018, 10:24
I missed Brambilla.  :o
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Guilherme Ribeiro on January 05, 2018, 14:23
My picks :



ARU Fabio
TEUNS Dylan
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
HAIG Jack
GAUDU David
ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo
HIRT Jan
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
CONTI Valerio
POWLESS Neilson
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
CARTHY Hugh 
NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel
RAVASI Edward
RIABUSHENKO Aliaksandr
VAN HOECKE Gijs
SILVA Joaquim Ricardo Soares
WHITEHOUSE Daniel
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
BICO Nuno Miguel Alves Matos
HIRSCHI Marc
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves
MAGNUSSON Kim
PHINNEY Taylor
HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Slapshot on January 05, 2018, 15:12
My attempt at finishing last this year comprises  :D :D :D

LANDA MEANA Mikel
COQUARD Bryan
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
THEUNS Edward
CALMEJANE Lilian
GOGL Michael
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
COSNEFROY Benoit
WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads
JOHANSEN Julius
RASTELLI Luca
KÄMNA Lennard
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
CARBEL SVENDGAARD Michael
DE PLUS Laurens
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques
DOWNEY Mark
SKAARSETH Anders
ROVNY Ivan
BAKKER Dennis
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
STORK Florian
BONNAFOND Guillaume
VEREECKEN Thomas
BALLERINI Davide
ALBANESE Vincenzo
CONTI Valerio
PEETERS Rob

Only went for 28 riders...try something different! Good Luck everyone
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: jon ezeitza on January 05, 2018, 19:39
 I made a list without big figures. I have looked for hard workers. Let's see how my first year in this game turns out:

ARNDT Nikias
BAUHAUS Phil
CAVAGNA Rémi
DIBBEN Jonathan
DLAMINI Nicholas
EDMONDSON Alexander
EIKING Odd Christian
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
GAUDU David
GIBBONS Ryan
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
GUERREIRO Ruben Almeida
HAIG Jack
HAUSSLER Heinrich
HIRT Jan
KUDUS Merhawi
MANZIN Lorrenzo
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel
MAS NICOLAU Enric
MCCARTHY Jay
MINALI Riccardo
MÜHLBERGER Gregor
MULLEN Ryan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
PLAZA MOLINA Ruben
RESTREPO Jhonatan
REYES ORTEGA Aldemar
SBARAGLI Kristian
SCOTSON Miles
SÜTTERLIN Jasha
TXOPERENA Beñat
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
VAN DER SANDE Tosh
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on January 05, 2018, 20:55
OK you want it, here it is


LANDA MEANA Mikel  :D FREEEeeeEEE Mikel Landa
ZAKARIN Ilnur  :luv
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion  :ninja
CALMEJANE Lilian  :confident
FELLINE Fabio  <3 sigh
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel  :cool bandages boy, wrap yourself up
SENECHAL Florian  :D with me forever
MAS NICOLAU Enric  :cool The Boy
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe  :cool
GOUGEARD Alexis :P
OFFREDO Yoann :P love this guy
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 🥞
TXOPERENA MATXIKOTE Beñat  :hi
BALLERINI Davide  *it
BENITO DIEZ Miguel Angel  :D :D :D :D My other Boy
INSAUSTI IRASTORZA Jon Ander  *es
TURGIS Jimmy baby boy  *fr
COUANON Jonathan
MOSCHETTI Matteo
CAMACHO BERNAL Julio Alexis
YUSTRE RODRIGUEZ Kristian Javier
LEROUX Samuel
BOZIC Jon
FLOREZ LOPEZ Miguel Eduardo
AMADOR CASTANO Juan Jose
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat  :hi The Prisoner of Sky
SANZ Enrique old favourite  *es
SANCHEZ REBOLLIDO Angel Lorenzo
BARRENETXEA URIARTE Ander
BOU COMPANY joan
MCCARTHY Robert-Jon
ORSINI Umberto

many unknown entities
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: rote_laterne on January 07, 2018, 19:15
I'm glad I missed no obvious picks, those I did not chose I did for one reason or another. I somewhat regret that I overlooked Haddi Soufiane and Bol Cees, but they are not popular.

A few words about my team:

ALAPHILIPPE Julian   1011   59   
If he stays healthy and uninjured and rides a full season he might double his points. Can also be a contender at the Worlds and I like him.

MOSCON Gianni   864 21
Massive talent, with Froome hopefully gone he should get more freedom in stage races and I guess he will lead Sky at the Classics with Van Baarle. Being at Sky he might even finish high at the Worlds.

THEUNS Edward   645   8
I like him, he might double his points. I'm not really convinced though, I chose him over Cort as the latter was injured and Theuns will probably better fit in at Sunweb than Cort at Astana.

LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   629   101   
No brainer.

CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   505   107   
Can score high in 2 GTs and the Worlds.

ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   478   33   
After a very good season this can be his breakout year. Bit risky though.

GAUDU David   352   61
Massive talent, can double his points or stagnate this season.

CAVENDISH Mark   257   115
Even on a downward slope he should at least double his points.

DE PLUS Laurens   239   17
Chose him over Mas, probably not the best choice but he's got talent and should improve his score.

COQUARD Bryan   220   110   
No brainer, I hope he's motivated for the french races.

VLIEGEN Loïc   179   7   
I believed in him last year, I believe in him this year even more.

WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads   160   7
After a good first year at WT I expect a better second year.

RIVERA SERRANO Kevin   155   10
I hope he continues where Bernal left.

HALVORSEN Kristoffer   151   60
Should get his chances as Skys No. 1 sprinter.

SIVAKOV Pavel   142   23   
He's talented, I hope he gets a similar race program than Hart last year. Might probably also ride le Tour de l'Avenir.

PLANCKAERT Edward   121   3
Chose him over Capiot as I didn't know if the latter is healthy again. Should improve his scores but I fear a healthy Capiot has a higher ceiling this year.

NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel   120   12
Talented climber in a team with few climbers but not sure if he's a great pick.

JAKOBSEN Fabio   118   28
Quickstep knows how to develop a sprinter, should get his chances in smaller races.

FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   115   42
After a bad year he can only be better and he is at Movistar so there's always the chance to score 400+ now that the Herrada brothers and Gorke are gone. Was my last pick as I'm not really convinced in him but he should do well in the TDU.

RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   106   6 ARANBURU DEBA Alex   76   1
They should do well at Caja.

NIZZOLO Giacomo   66   111
No brainer.

PADUN Mark   73   9
Talented and he might get his chances.

KANGERT Tanel   58   86
He's solid and good for 300-500 points.

DE BIE Sean   57   49
Plenty of points in smaller Belgium races.

MCNULTY Brandon   35   13
Talented rider who missed the beginning of last years season. Might also score in the Tour de l'Avenir.

BILLE Gaëtan   35   10   
Should do well at Conti level.

COSTA Adrien   27   38
If he's motivated he should be the man to beat at the Tour de l'Avenir. Too great a talent to miss for his cost.

MOSER Moreno   25   57   
He's cheap, in a contract year he might score.

KÖNIG Leopold   10   99
He's young enough for a solid comeback.

LEKNESSUND Andreas   0   1   
More exciting to cheer for a youngster than hoping for Intxausti to finish a WT race.

ENGER Sondre Holst   0   64
Hoping for 100 points.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 07, 2018, 20:22
DE BIE Sean   57   49
Plenty of points in smaller Belgium races.

I had De Bie in my team for a long while, but the brouhaha at Verandas about bikes etc just put me off enough to swap him for Capiot. I think they have changed bike manufacturers anyway, however Nuyens is obviously still there and there seemed to be trouble brewing between him and a few of the riders.

Some of the other riders who just missed out on selection for me were Mancebo (last minute swap for Eyob), Brandao (will probably turn a decent profit, but not enough race days to keep me interested), Van Schip (talked up on some other forums), Haddi (will regret it probably, but wanted another Bike Geeeeeeeeeeeeeks rider in) and Woods (replaced him with MLA when it was announced he was riding TdF in support of Uran , Giro news came too late).
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 07, 2018, 20:53
OK given everyone has written a little about their picks, here is my analysis and commentary.

FELLINE Fabio
No brainer

THEUNS Edward
No brainer

LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
No brainer

KRUIJSWIJK Steven
No brainer

CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
No brainer

OOMEN Sam
No brainer

LATOUR Pierre
No brainer

CONSONNI Simone
No brainer

GAUDU David
No brainer

VAN POPPEL Danny
No brainer

CAVENDISH Mark
No brainer

RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan
No brainer

COQUARD Bryan
No brainer

BOSWELL Ian
No brainer

BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
WTF is he doing in there?

RIVERA SERRANO Kevin
No brainer

HALVORSEN Kristoffer
No brainer

KENNAUGH Peter
No brainer

JAKOBSEN Fabio
No brainer

FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
No brainer

POWER Robert
No brainer

PHILIPSEN Jasper
No brainer

OWEN Logan
No brainer

VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
No brainer

MAMYKIN Matvey
No brainer

NIZZOLO Giacomo
No brainer

KANGERT Tanel
No brainer

DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
No brainer

CAPIOT Amaury
No brainer

ALBANESE Vincenzo
No brainer

COSTA Adrien
No brainer

KÖNIG Leopold
No brainer

PIDCOCK Thomas
No brainer
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: rote_laterne on January 07, 2018, 21:12
Celano will obviously score 1000+ :P

Who is Celano?

I didn't pick either Intxausti or Craddock. I had Craddock twice before and like someone else said, I've lost faith. Maybe he'll improve on his score; maybe he won't. Just not confident at all so I passed. Strongly considered Intxausti until I saw an interview a few weeks ago from which it sounded like he didn't really feel there was an end in sight. Of course he's 0 points so can't go wrong, but he does take up a spot.

Exactly my thoughts.

My picks :

WHITEHOUSE Daniel

I like that you again went for a more unique team. Especially like your Whitehouse pick.

I had De Bie in my team for a long while, but the brouhaha at Verandas about bikes etc just put me off enough to swap him for Capiot. I think they have changed bike manufacturers anyway, however Nuyens is obviously still there and there seemed to be trouble brewing between him and a few of the riders.

I had no idea there's still trouble in the team. I still think he's a good pick. Missing Capiot most likely will hurt though.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 09, 2018, 06:45
Update #1: Newcomer takes early lead in Australian Summer

CQ Manager Christmas has come and passed, everyone has showed off their presents and looked at everyone else's. Now it's time to get down to CQ Manager New Year, when the points are thin and the possibilities are high! With only the Aussie and New Zealand national TT and RR results, the first week is always a question of 'who picked the most guys that were actually racing and scored points'? This year, the winners were Hamish Bond (TT) and Jason Christie (RR) in New Zealand, both of whom were on zero teams; Rohan Dennis (Aussie TT) was on 4 teams, and Alex Edmonson (Aussie RR) was on 6 teams. So - not a ton of scoring. There were 8 teams that scored at least 100 points (ie. two non-Edmondson teams), and 50 teams that scored at least something.

Top 10 (of the week and overall, obviously)

Rank   Team   Points
1   Jon_Ezeitza   180
2   l'velo   140
3   sodak_za   132
4   Blues in the bottle   120
5   Jakob747   116
6   Maaaaaaaarten   112
7   Eric10   100
7   the asian   100
9   CQmanager   90
10   Poles & Co.   72

It's a newcomer to the game, velorooms applicant Jon Ezeitza (interesting fact - the only application I've ever received written in Spanish) who takes the first lead of the year! On top of Edmondson, their team had unique pick (and 2nd place finisher) Jay McCarthy, and 20 points from Miles Scotson for good measure. Second place l'velo rode on the backs of Edmondson and Ewan, and third place sodak_za was the top team without Edmondson, spreading the scoring around with Dennis, Ewan, Durbridge and Bennett.

As you may guess, Green Jersey points are in the same order, so the overall update is really the only necessary one this week. Next week, unless there are some players in the game who score points in Tachira, there won't be an update, although I certainly will provide one if anyone scores. Then, the floodgates will start opening with Bongo, TdU, San Juan, rolling into the European season, the Middle East races, the February warmup races in southern Europe, Het Volk, Paris-Nice, etc etc. Time to discuss our teams some more and pore over provisional start lists, my favourite time of year.

Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/l67l8tdz572m4lh/CQ%202018%20update%201.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 09, 2018, 09:16
It's a newcomer to the game, velorooms applicant Jon Ezeitza (interesting fact - the only application I've ever received written in Spanish) who takes the first lead of the year!

:rave

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Next week, unless there are some players in the game who score points in Tachira, there won't be an update, although I certainly will provide one if anyone scores.

Androni are riding with Rivera, Sosa, Malucelli and Bonusi so an update might be needed. A small number of us hope so anyway.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: jon ezeitza on January 09, 2018, 15:02
The rookie has started as champion plan. My Australian team has responded well. I hope that in Down Under the good run continues.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: DJW on January 09, 2018, 19:42
The rookie has started as champion plan. My Australian team has responded well. I hope that in Down Under the good run continues.

Felicidades!
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: jon ezeitza on January 09, 2018, 21:01
Gracias, DJW. Espero felicitarte en una próxima victoria tuya.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on January 13, 2018, 10:39
My team for TDU :)

GC men: Kennaugh, Oomen, Latour, Mas
Designated sprinters: Halvorsen, Minali
Wildcards: Senechal, Navardauskas
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: DJW on January 13, 2018, 11:53
Just Oomen and Soler for me.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 15, 2018, 08:36
here is hope for a decent start...
Vuelta al Tachira   
RIVERA SERRANO Kevin   
   
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo   
BRANDAO Joni Silva   
   
Tour Down Under   
PORTE Richie   
KENNAUGH Peter   
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas   
VANDENBERGH Stijn   

Seeing Haddi in the Tropicale lineups makes me regret my choice to pick Intxausti again already though...
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: rote_laterne on January 15, 2018, 22:43
Vuelta a San Juan Internacional (2.1)
NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel
NIZZOLO Giacomo
PADUN Mark

Santos Tour Down Under (2.UWT)
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
OOMEN Sam
WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads

Don't know the profile of San Juan, but Narvaez and Nizzolo could score. Fernandez and Oomen top ten in TDU. ,

Vuelta al Tachira en Bicicleta (2.2)
RIVERA SERRANO Kevin

He's out of the GC but did score on stage 3  :cool
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Arb on January 16, 2018, 01:26
here is hope for a decent start...
Vuelta al Tachira   
RIVERA SERRANO Kevin   
   
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo   
BRANDAO Joni Silva   
   
Tour Down Under   
PORTE Richie   
KENNAUGH Peter   
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben   
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas   
VANDENBERGH Stijn   

Seeing Haddi in the Tropicale lineups makes me regret my choice to pick Intxausti again already though...

Sosa 1 Rivera 0

Looks like Haddi got some bonus seconds too.
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 16, 2018, 05:43
Looks like CQ made the decision not to have an update spreadsheet that only included the results from 2 stages of a 2.2 race; makes sense. Update #2 to come next week after the TdU!
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on January 16, 2018, 17:14
im 2 down before we kick a ball
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Trudgin on January 16, 2018, 18:31



TDU

IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
MAS NICOLAU Enric
SENECHAL Florian

Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: DJW on January 16, 2018, 19:46
5 points from Vuelta al Tachira  :win:
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Arb on January 16, 2018, 22:27
Haddi crash? Waaaa
Title: Re: 2018 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 21, 2018, 20:22
A decent haul from Porte this week, but it was Kipkemboi who held my attention in Amissa Bongo. Into profit after one race!

Sosa 1 Rivera 0

...... and that's how it finished. Will be fun to watch the "battle" between them this year.