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Title: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 18, 2018, 18:49
The ads are on TV, the team lists are gradually being posted: it's time to start this again.  Most of you are familiar with how it goes, just remember that we are down to teams of 8

Team of exactly eight riders   If you pick someone who is not riding, I'll replace him with the next cheapest of his team, or the next cheapest in the race if there is not one in his team.

Budget    Budget will be 3500 points.  If you are over budget, I'll take out the cheapest rider who can be replaced with a cheaper member of his team that will bring you into budget, or the next cheapest in the race if there is not one in his team  (first in alphabetical order if two or more meet that definition).

Price of riders
CQ score for 12 months to 19th August, for which the update file that CQ released on Monday 20th will be considered definitive. 
There is a dropbox spreadsheet (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ww7wwcqsefc972t/2018%20Vuelta%20CQ%20Game%20selector.xls?dl=0) of riders likely to participate and their prices for the game, and a facility for checking the team total.

Submitting your team
By personal message to me, either here or at CN.
Please send the team with names formatted as per CQ. (Surname[space]Forename and nothing else: Spanish/Portuguese names need particular care, as do accents or other diacritics) Please do not include riders' teams and prices.  It makes an enormous difference to the efficiency of adding teams.  If you use the dropbox spreadsheet it will be a simple copy and paste job.

I have lodged my team with Salvarani (the first person to submit a team).


Deadline
The start of the race, which I believe to be Saturday 25th August at 5:20 pm  (CEST, 15:20 UTC)

Scoring
Points issued according to the points tables of CQ (column GT2) (http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rules.asp).  Note there are no points issued for the young rider category.

Entries as of mid morning (UK time) Saturday, about 6 hours to go
Akuryo
AmisVelo
Armchair_Cyclist
Axl
BicycleBoy
BikeRacer33
BluesInTheBottle
Bminchow
Carlo_Algatrensig
Crevaison
Del1962
Gotland
GPBlanco
Hakkie2
Koronin
Leadbelly
LightBing
LosBrolin
Mellow_Velo
MidnightFright
Minessa
Nathanptz
NorthAmericanScum
Paniou
Rote_Laterne
Salvarani
Scrool07
Search
SemirS
Shalgo
TotalPackage
Vladimir
Yellow_Knight

All teams valid and within budget, except one which has 9 riders so will have its cheapest rider cut: the manager has been sent a message.

Good luck to all.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Leadbelly on August 18, 2018, 20:09
Deadline
The start of the race, which I believe to be Saturday 19th August at 5:20 pm  (CEST, 15:20 UTC)

 :o

You had me worried there for a bit. Thankfully it's the 25th August.

Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 18, 2018, 21:32
:o

You had me worried there for a bit. Thankfully it's the 25th August.


That's what happens when the arrangements are the same for each GT, so I copy and paste rather than trying to find an original way of saying the same thing again.

Thanks for pointing it out: now corrected.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 20, 2018, 22:26
The price list is published, the dropbox sheet is up and I should be able to update it regularly as the entry list approaches finalisation. Let the entries flood in.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: search on August 21, 2018, 08:16
here's the usual startlist including cq values. I will try to keep it updated:

#bahrain      BAHRAIN - MERIDA      :cool      #ag2r      AG2R LA MONDIALE      :cool   
1      NIBALI Vincenzo      1506      11      DUPONT Hubert      142   
2      GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      158      12      CHEREL Mikael      155   
3      IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka      876      13      DUVAL Julien      112   
4      IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion      813      14      GALLOPIN Tony      553   
5      PADUN Mark      141      15      GASTAUER Ben      65   
6      PELLIZOTTI Franco      117      16      GENIEZ Alexandre      579   
7      PERNSTEINER Hermann      369      17      GOUGEARD Alexis      256   
8      PIBERNIK Luka      127      18      PETERS Nans      133   
            4107                  1995   
#astana      ASTANA PRO TEAM      :cool      #bmc      BMC RACING TEAM      :cool   
21      LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      1441      31      PORTE Richie      847   
22      BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      632      32      BOOKWALTER Brent      215   
23      CATALDO Dario      224      33      DE MARCHI Alessandro      169   
24      FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar      405      34      DENNIS Rohan      738   
25      HIRT Jan      122      35      ROCHE Nicolas      561   
26      STALNOV Nikita      71      36      ROSSKOPF Joey      166   
27      VILLELLA Davide      250      37      TEUNS Dylan      578   
28      ZEITS Andrey      203      38      VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose      55   
            3348                  3329   
#bora      BORA-HANSGROHE      :cool      #fdj      GROUPAMA - FDJ      :cool   
41      SAGAN Peter      2683      51      PINOT Thibaut      916   
42      BURGHARDT Marcus      187      52      DELAGE Mickaël      5   
43      FORMOLO Davide      600      53      DUCHESNE Antoine      88   
44      MAJKA Rafal      652      54      MOLARD Rudy      451   
45      MCCARTHY Jay      431      55      PREIDLER Georg      288   
46      PÖSTLBERGER Lukas      192      56      SARREAU Marc      549   
47      SAGAN Peter      2683      57      THOMAS Benjamin      127   
48      SCHWARZMANN Michael      72      58      VINCENT Léo      62   
            7500                  2486   
#lotto      LOTTO - SOUDAL      :cool      #mitchelton      MITCHELTON - SCOTT      :cool   
61      BENOOT Tiesj      925      71      YATES Simon      1413   
62      ARMEE Sander      175      72      ALBASINI Michael      653   
63      CAMPENAERTS Victor      453      73      EDMONDSON Alexander      163   
64      DE GENDT Thomas      454      74      HAIG Jack      410   
65      LAMBRECHT Bjorg      337      75      HOWSON Damien      272   
66      MONFORT Maxime      75      76      MEZGEC Luka      296   
67      VAN DER SANDE Tosh      71      77      TRENTIN Matteo      1285   
68      WALLAYS Jelle      99      78      YATES Adam      936   
            2589                  5428   
#movistar      MOVISTAR TEAM      :cool      #quickstep      QUICK STEP FLOORS      :cool   
81      QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      994      91      VIVIANI Elia      2479   
82      AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey      262      92      ASGREEN Kasper      181   
83      ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew      92      93      DE PLUS Laurens      145   
84      BENNATI Daniele      96      94      DEVENYNS Dries      345   
85      CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      788      95      MAS NICOLAU Enric      458   
86      ERVITI OLLO Imanol      105      96      MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael      274   
87      OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes      241      97      SABATINI Fabio      64   
88      VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      1828      98      SERRY Pieter      443   
            4406                  4389   
#dimension      TEAM DIMENSION DATA      :cool      #ef      TEAM EF EDUCATION FIRST      :cool   
101      MEINTJES Louis      240      111      URAN URAN Rigoberto      663   
102      ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor      177      112      CLARKE Simon      172   
103      CUMMINGS Stephen      61      113      DOCKER Mitchell      116   
104      GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul      249      114      LANGEVELD Sebastian      128   
105      GIBBONS Ryan      77      115      MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel      182   
106      KING Benjamin      77      116      ROLLAND Pierre      197   
107      KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin      249      117      VAN Asbroeck Tom      134   
108      VAN ZYL Johann      37      118      WOODS Michael      615   
            1167                  2207   
#katusha      TEAM KATUSHA-ALPECIN      :cool      #jumbo      TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO      :cool   
121      ZAKARIN Ilnur      854      131      KRUIJSWIJK Steven      887   
122      BOSWELL Ian      66      132      BENNETT George      714   
123      GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel      226      133      BOOM Lars      299   
124      HOLLENSTEIN Reto      97      134      DE TIER Floris      160   
125      KOCHETKOV Pavel      90      135      KUSS Sepp      387   
126      LAMMERTINK Maurits      174      136      LEEZER Tom      84   
127      MACHADO Tiago Jose Pinto      157      137      LINDEMAN Bert-jan      55   
128      RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan      63      138      VAN POPPEL Danny      515   
            1727                  3101   
#sky      TEAM SKY      :cool      #sunweb      TEAM SUNWEB      :cool   
141      DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David      454      151      KELDERMAN Wilco      889   
142      CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan      520      152      FRÖHLINGER Johannes      55   
143      GEOGHEGAN HART Tao      317      153      GESCHKE Simon      169   
144      HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis      553      154      HINDLEY Jai      232   
145      KWIATKOWSKI Michal      1419      155      STORER Michael      164   
146      PUCCIO Salvatore      104      156      TEUNISSEN Mike      392   
147      SIVAKOV Pavel      190      157      TUSVELD Martijn      58   
148      VAN BAARLE Dylan      321      158      WALSCHEID Maximilian      264   
            3878                  2223   
#trek      TREK-SEGAFREDO      :cool      #uae      UAE - TEAMEMIRATES      :cool   
161      MOLLEMA Bauke      1030      171      ARU Fabio      613   
162      BRAMBILLA Gianluca      332      172      BYSTRØM Sven Erik      66   
163      BRÄNDLE Matthias      50      173      CONSONNI Simone      442   
164      CONCI Nicola      98      174      CONTI Valerio      252   
165      FELLINE Fabio      126      175      LAENGEN Vegard Stake      215   
166      IRIZAR ARANBURU Markel      49      176      MARTIN Daniel      870   
167      NIZZOLO Giacomo      331      177      PETILLI Simone      58   
168      REIJNEN Kiel      106      178      RAVASI Edward      146   
            2122                  2662   
#burgos      BURSGOS BH      :cool      #cajarural      CAJA RURAL-SEGUROS RGA      :cool   
181      MENDES Jose Joao Pimenta Costa      65      191      PARDILLA BELLON Sergio      289   
182      BOL Jetse      47      192      ARANBURU DEBA Alex      283   
183      CABEDO CARDA Oscar      29      193      LASTRA MARTINEZ Jonathan      197   
184      CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge      5      194      MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo      97   
185      EZQUERRA MUELA Jesus      90      195      MOLINA CANET Antonio      132   
186      SIMON CASULLERAS Jordi      91      196      RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian      26   
187      RUBIO HERNANDEZ Diego      159      197      SCHULTZ Nicholas      107   
188      TORRES MUIÑO Pablo      89      198      SOTO MARTINEZ Nelson Andres      47   
            575                  1178   
#cofidis      COFIDIS SOLUTIONS CRÉDITS      :cool      #euskadi      EUSKADI BASQUE COUNTRY      :cool   
201      BOUHANNI Nacer      641      211      PRADES REVERTER Eduard      734   
202      CHETOUT Loïc      15      212      ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon      279   
203      HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus      612      213      BAGÜES KALPARSORO Aritz      62   
204      HERRADA LOPEZ Jose      97      214      BIZKARRA ETXEGIBEL Mikel      220   
205      LE TURNIER Mathias      93      215      BRAVO OIARBIDE Garikoitz      145   
206      MATE MARDONES Luis Angel      128      216      ITURRIA SEGUROLA Mikel      66   
207      ROSSETTO Stéphane      85      217      RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar      14   
208      VANBILSEN Kenneth      73      218      SANZ UNZUE Enrique      114   
            1744                  1634   
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 22, 2018, 11:38
Now that Sky have confirmed, all the teams have been released, so nothing to keep you from sending in your teams.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 24, 2018, 11:28
With about 30 hours left before the start, and 22 teams in so far, some data.

56 riders have been selected, 27 of them unique picks.  The most popular pick is on 14 teams, 6 others are on 9-11 teams, but those most popular 7 would put a team over budget.

I have worked out a most popular (so far) team that is within budget: the team with the highest popularity score has 89% of that, the lowest is 31%.  Two teams have half their riders as unique picks.

17 of the selected riders cost less than 100 points, and are probably considered makeweights of whom little is expected.  But one of them has been chosen 7 times, and another 5, so there might be a little more hope invested there.

8 different riders have been selected as their team's biggest spend (and one rider more expensive than three of these has been chosen, but not as his team's "leader") 
If we take 700 points as the threshhold for an expensive pick (because it includes all of the top picks for each team, and there is a big jump in price between the 24th and 25th most expensive riders), then one team has managed to accommodate 3 such riders, 10 teams have 2, and half the entries so far have spent big just once.

Those who have not entered yet, don't forget.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 25, 2018, 23:17
Sorry: what I thought was going to be a short afternoon engagement ended up keeping me for hours later than I had wanted (or was interested in it...)

Teams
36 entries in the end, with a couple of new entrants to the games (I think: welcome).  Teams ordered alphabetically, riders by price. Asterisks, as ever, show unique picks.

Akuryo
   PORTE Richie   
   ARU Fabio   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   WALSCHEID Maximilian   
   CATALDO Dario   *
   HERRADA LOPEZ Jose   

Amis Velo
   YATES Simon   
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew   *
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   

Armchair Cyclist

   PINOT Thibaut   
   PORTE Richie   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   BRAMBILLA Gianluca   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   BOL Jetse   

Axl
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   MONFORT Maxime   
   PETILLI Simone   *

Bicycle Boy
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   YATES Simon   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   ROSSETTO Stéphane   *
   MONFORT Maxime   
   RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   
   CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge   
   DELAGE Mickaël   

BikeRacer33
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   BENNETT George   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   WALSCHEID Maximilian   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   SCHULTZ Nicholas   *

Blues in the Bottle
   PORTE Richie   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   CABEDO CARDA Oscar   

Bminchow
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   BENNETT George   
   ARU Fabio   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   SCHWARZMANN Michael   *

Carlo Algatrensig
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   ARU Fabio   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
   PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   

Crevaison
   PINOT Thibaut   
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   SIVAKOV Pavel   *
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan   *
   BOL Jetse   

Del1962
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   PORTE Richie   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   CUMMINGS Stephen   
   CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge   

Gotland
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
   HIRT Jan   *
   GIBBONS Ryan   

GPBlanco
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   BENNETT George   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   DE MARCHI Alessandro   
   STORER Michael   
   DE PLUS Laurens   
   FELLINE Fabio   

Hakkie
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   ARU Fabio   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   CUMMINGS Stephen   

Josedin
   IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   *
   BENNETT George   
   ARU Fabio   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   
   WALSCHEID Maximilian   
   PADUN Mark   
   GIBBONS Ryan   

Koronin
   VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   *
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   KUSS Sepp   *
   PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   DE MARCHI Alessandro   
   MENDES Jose Joao Pimenta Costa   
   SABATINI Fabio   *

Laarsland
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   PORTE Richie   
   ARU Fabio   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   STORER Michael   
   DE PLUS Laurens   
   CONCI Nicola   *
   GIBBONS Ryan   

Leadbelly
   PINOT Thibaut   
   PORTE Richie   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel   
   DE PLUS Laurens   
   PADUN Mark   
   MENDES Jose Joao Pimenta Costa   

LightBing
   TRENTIN Matteo   *
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   BOUHANNI Nacer   
   ARU Fabio   
   MONFORT Maxime   
   VAN DER SANDE Tosh   *
   MENDES Jose Joao Pimenta Costa   
   BRÄNDLE Matthias   

Los Brolin
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   
   DE PLUS Laurens   
   PELLIZOTTI Franco   *

Mellow Velo
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   WALSCHEID Maximilian   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   CABEDO CARDA Oscar   

Midnight Fright
   PORTE Richie   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   CAMPENAERTS Victor   *
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   WALSCHEID Maximilian   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   CUMMINGS Stephen   

Minessa
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   KELDERMAN Wilco   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   BRÄNDLE Matthias   
   BOL Jetse   

Nathanptz
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   TEUNS Dylan   *
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   DE PLUS Laurens   
   DUPONT Hubert   

North American Scum

   BENNETT George   
   BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   *
   GENIEZ Alexandre   *
   VAN POPPEL Danny   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   DE PLUS Laurens   

Paniou
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   PORTE Richie   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   CUMMINGS Stephen   
   CHETOUT Loïc   *

Rote Laterne

   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   BENNETT George   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   HERRADA LOPEZ Jose   
   RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   

Salvarani
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   PADUN Mark   
   TUSVELD Martijn   *

Scrool07
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   ARU Fabio   
   HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   *
   BRAMBILLA Gianluca   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   WALSCHEID Maximilian   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   MATE MARDONES Luis Angel   *

Search
   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
   BENNETT George   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel   
   MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   BOL Jetse   

SemirS
   YATES Simon   
   PORTE Richie   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   SAEZ BENITO Hector   *
   CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge   
   DELAGE Mickaël   

Shalgo
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   VAN POPPEL Danny   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   CUMMINGS Stephen   

Squire
   BENNETT George   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   MAS NICOLAU Enric   
   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   DUPONT Hubert   

Total Package
   PORTE Richie   
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   BOUHANNI Nacer   
   ARU Fabio   
   NIZZOLO Giacomo   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   

Vladimir
   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
   ZAKARIN Ilnur   
   ARU Fabio   
   GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
   MEINTJES Louis   
   ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   
   DE TIER Floris   *
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   

Yellow Knight
   MARTIN Daniel   *
   DENNIS Rohan   *
   URAN URAN Rigoberto   
   ARU Fabio   
   BUCHMANN Emanuel   
   BRÄNDLE Matthias   
   RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   
   DELAGE Mickaël   
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 25, 2018, 23:48
Riders

74 of the 176 riders were selected.  29 of them were unique picks: I hope there are 29 asterisks in the list above. Meintjes was always high in the popularity rankings, but Aru and Uran became more frequent appearances among the later entries, possibly as people turned away from considering Porte and his dodgy digestive system, and there was a steep drop of in the occurrence of his name in the final 24 hours or so of team submissions.  Only one manager changed their team to remove him, and he still appeared on one of the last entries received. 

Here are the remaining 45 selected riders, in order of their popularity.

20: ARU Fabio, MEINTJES Louis, URAN URAN Rigoberto
17: QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
15: DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
14: NIZZOLO Giacomo
11: GIBBONS Ryan
10: BUCHMANN Emanuel, MAS NICOLAU Enric, PORTE Richie
8: BENNETT George, GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
6: DE PLUS Laurens, WALSCHEID Maximilian
5: CUMMINGS Stephen
4: ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor, BOL Jetse, FELLINE Fabio
3: BRÄNDLE Matthias, CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge, DELAGE Mickaël, KELDERMAN Wilco, LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel, MENDES Jose Joao Pimenta Costa, MONFORT Maxime, MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel, PADUN Mark, PINOT Thibaut, RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar, YATES Simon, ZAKARIN Ilnur
2: ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon, BOUHANNI Nacer, BRAMBILLA Gianluca, CABEDO CARDA Oscar, DE MARCHI Alessandro, DUPONT Hubert, GARCIA CORTINA Ivan, GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel, HERRADA LOPEZ Jose, PARDILLA BELLON Sergio, RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian, STORER Michael, VAN ASBROECK Tom, VAN POPPEL Danny

The names in bold make up the Collective Wisdom team: I had to drop as low as Cummings after the top 7 to keep it in budget.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 26, 2018, 00:18
Popularity Rankings

For those who are new to this, Aru, Meintjes and Uran are worth 20 points each, as they were on 20 teams: if you had 8 unique picks, then your popularity score would be 8.  The Collective Wisdom team has a popularity score of 122.

1   Shalgo   109
2   Bminchow   106
2   Del1962   106
4   Salvarani   105
5   BluesInTheBottle   104
6   Hakkie2   101
7   Squire   99
8   LosBrolin   97
9   Axl   96
9   MidnightFright   96
11   Mellow_Velo   93
12   Gotland   92
12   TotalPackage   92
14   Paniou   86
15   Carlo_Algatrensig   81
15   Minessa   81
15   Scrool07   81
18   Nathanptz   80
19   Laarsland   77
20   AmisVelo   76
21   Vladimir   75
22   Akuryo   74
23   BikeRacer33   73
24   Armchair_Cyclist   71
25   Rote_Laterne   70
26   SemirS   66
27   Leadbelly   62
28   Josedin   61
28   Yellow_Knight   61
30   Search   60
31   GPBlanco   55
32   Crevaison   54
33   LightBing   53
34   Koronin   40
35   NorthAmericanScum   39
36   BicycleBoy   34


Major Picks
Those who have been purchased at 700 points or more: the headline selections for each team (but not necessarily the ones who make a difference)

Valverde: Koronin
   
Lopez and Yates S: Bicycle Boy
Lopez and Bennett: GPBlanco
Lopez: Search


Yates S and Quintana: Amis Velo
Yates S and Porte: SemirS
                  
Trentin: LightBing
                  
Quintana and Kelderman: Mellow Velo, Minessa
Quintana, Zakarin and Porte: Shalgo
Quintana and Zakarin: Vladimir
Quintana and Porte: Del1962, Laarsland, Paniou
Quintana and Bennett: BikeRacer33, Bminchow, Rote Laterne
Quintana: Axl, Hakkie, Los Brolin, Nathanptz, Salvarani, Scrool07
                  
Pinot and Zakarin: Crevaison
Pinot and Porte: Armchair Cyclist, Leadbelly
                  
Kelderman: Total Package
                  
Martin and Dennis: Yellow Knight
                  
Zakarin: Carlo Algatrensig
                  
Porte: Akuryo, Blues in the Bottle, Midnight Fright, Total Package   
                  
Izagirre I: Josedin   
                  
Bennett: North American Scum, Squire
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 26, 2018, 00:39
Four Seasons title

Whether through persistence, determination, loyalty, stubbornness or lack of anything else to do in the build-up to major cycling events, 18 managers have sent in teams not only to the Vuelta game, but also earlier in the year  for the Giro, the Tour de France, and the Spring Classics.

Team Spring Classics Giro Tour Vuelta
1      Armchair_Cyclist      2277      1004      1731      0      5012
2      Rote_Laterne      1966      1885      771      0      4622
3      LosBrolin      2023      1168      1168      0      4359
4      Nathanptz      2274      1132      812      0      4218
5      Hakkie2      2307      1081      800      0      4188
6      Laarsland      1993      1007      1027      0      4027
7      GPBlanco      1809      882      1010      0      3701
8      AmisVelo      2017      1154      504      0      3675
9      Vladimir      1462      1152      966      0      3580
10      Squire      1507      1005      1061      0      3573
11      SemirS      1028      908      1572      0      3508
12      Leadbelly      1695      725      1062      0      3482
13      Mellow_Velo      1673      1066      699      0      3438
14      Shalgo      1695      695      983      0      3373
15      BluesInTheBottle      1901      794      602      0      3297
16      Del1962      1349      954      708      0      3011
17      Search      1211      679      1025      0      2915
18      Salvarani      1087      637      922      0      2646
      Collective_Wisdom      2119      934      1000            4053
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 26, 2018, 12:57
Stage 1 Short time trial

Green points
For those who are new to these games, or who have short memories for such details, an explanation of how the points here are calculated.
For each stage, the top ten receive points in the distribution 70, 40, 25, 15, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1.  There are also 18 points to the man who will wear the winners jersey the next day.  Points won in this way cannot be lost, even if the rider doesn't finish the Vuelta.  In the initial GT games, run by CQManager, if I remember correctly, these were the only scores reported until we got to the end of the race, so I have kept the tradition of having these guaranteed points as a minor category.  Some team selections that are sprinter/puncheur heavy seem to be created with this as a specific goal (waves at LightBing)

So here is how that applies to the stage 1 results:
DENNIS Rohan   88   1 team  (That includes the 18 points for being top of GC)
KWIATKOWSKI Michal   40   0 team
CAMPENAERTS Victor   25   1 team
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes   15   0 team
VAN BAARLE Dylan   10   0 team
DE MARCHI Alessandro   7   2 teams
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan   5   0 team
GESCHKE Simon   3   0 team
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   2   1 team
KELDERMAN Wilco   1   3 teams

and not many of those riders gain points for the teams in this game, but at least we have an initial leaders table:

1   Yellow_Knight   88
2   MidnightFright   25
3=   GPBlanco, Koronin   7
5   Josedin   2
6=   Gotland, Mellow_Velo, Minessa   1
9=   Everyone else   0

Red points

CQ points are not only for the stages: far more of them are for the final GC standings.  The top 10 in GC get 500, 375, 315, 265, 240, 215, 190, 165, 150, 135 and so on, with declining points, down to 16 points for 50th place, and 15 for every finisher.
The top ten in the final points and mountains classifications also get points equivalent to a stage. 

Of course, riders only get those points upon completing the race, but tables here that ignore them would be ignoring the majority of points that will be given, and a false impression of the standings would be given.  So I give the points everyday to all the teams as though the current GC/points/mountains standings were final.  This is very unreliable at the beginning of the race, just as no-one looks at the current GC table and considers it a likely outcome in 3 weeks time.  But once we have had a couple of mountain shakedowns, then it becomes something that is changed mainly by the exploits or misfortunes of individual riders.

So, unreliable as it may be, here is the Red Jersey table (no mountain category points yet, after a flat timetrial) of the points your riders would get if the rest of the Vuelta were to be cancelled (well, the guys at CQ would probably downgrade the points if it were to happen, but...)

Rohan Dennis is on 658 points (70 for the stage win, 500 for leading GC, 70 for top of the points category, and 18 for a day in red), but even Oscar Cabedo, last on the stage and in the GC, gets 15 points for his two managers.

1   Yellow_Knight   819
2   MidnightFright   501
3   GPBlanco   484
4   Koronin   414
5   Minessa   343
6   Nathanptz   320
7   Hakkie2   319
8   Gotland   305
9   Josedin   303
10   Paniou   269
11   Mellow_Velo   267
12   AmisVelo   239
12   Rote_Laterne   239
14   Carlo_Algatrensig   237
15   Laarsland   219
15   Vladimir   219
17   TotalPackage   217
18   LosBrolin   215
19   Salvarani   196
20   Axl   191
21   Armchair_Cyclist   190
21   BluesInTheBottle   190
23   NorthAmericanScum   178
24   Del1962   176
24   Shalgo   176
26   Akuryo   170
27   BicycleBoy   156
27   Leadbelly   156
29   SemirS   153
30   BikeRacer33   152
30   Crevaison   152
32   Bminchow   145
33   Scrool07   141
34   LightBing   137
35   Search   131
35   Squire   131
   Collective_Wisdom   176

I would suggest that Yellow Knight's selection of Rohan Dennis was perhaps more aimed towards the transient glory of temporarily leading on day one rather than the likelihood of him featuring high in GC at the end of the race.  And if that is the case, mission accomplished.

A different set of riders to feature in the green points today, and at least some change in the GC standings, and a few points in the mountains category too, so at least some change to come.

All the numbers are in the spreadsheet, which is available for all at Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/firjvtq3htdbiaf/2018%20Vuelta%20CQ%20game.xlsx?dl=0): I won't bother posting the link every day, but it will stay at the same place, updated at about the time I do the post.
 
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 26, 2018, 19:24
Stage 2 Hilly finish at Caminito del Rey

Green Points

VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   70pts   1 team
KWIATKOWSKI Michal   58   0 team
DE PLUS Laurens   25   6 teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   15   3 teams
BENNETT George   10   8 teams
GALLOPIN Tony   7   0 team
BUCHMANN Emanuel   5   10 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto   3   20 teams
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   2   17 teams
PINOT Thibaut   1   3 teams

2 very popular riders among the scorers, almost everyone off the mark.  A clear winner on the day, especially as no-one has picked Kwiatkowski, but most of the De Plus teams moderate the gap by combining with others.
1   Koronin   70
2=   GPBlanco, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, NorthAmericanScum   35
6   Laarsland   32
7   Leadbelly   29
8=   Mellow_Velo,Minessa, Rote_Laterne   20
11   Gotland   18
12   Josedin   15
13   Squire   13
14=   BikeRacer33, Bminchow   12
16=   Axl, Search   10
18   Yellow_Knight   8
19   Hakkie2   7
20=   Akuryo, Carlo_Algatrensig, Del1962, Paniou, Salvarani, Shalgo   5
26   Crevaison   4
27=   BluesInTheBottle, LightBing, MidnightFright, SemirS, TotalPackage   3
32=   AmisVelo, Scrool07, Vladimir   2
35   Armchair_Cyclist   1
36   BicycleBoy   0 
   Collective_Wisdom   5

Standings
1   Yellow_Knight   96
2   Koronin   77
3   GPBlanco   42
4   LosBrolin   35
4   Nathanptz   35
4   NorthAmericanScum   35
7   Laarsland   32
8   Leadbelly   29
9   MidnightFright   28
10   Mellow_Velo   21
10   Minessa   21
(I usually only give the top ten for this: it is the minor classification)

Red points
Because riders can drop in the standings, their projected points can also fall, but not often as dramatically as Dennis does today.  I will only list riders who are selected in our teams here, and if there are a lot of large changes, like today, I won't list the minor ones.

VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   401   1 team
DE PLUS Laurens   257   6 teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   209   3 teams
BUCHMANN Emanuel   141   10 teams
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   116   17 teams
FELLINE Fabio   103   4 teams
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   88   1 team
MAS NICOLAU Enric   78   10 teams
BENNETT George   72   8 teams
PINOT Thibaut   70   3 teams
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel   70   1 team
YATES Simon   68   3 teams
ARU Fabio   55   20 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto   54   20 teams
...
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   -51   8 teams
TEUNS Dylan   -105   1 team
DE MARCHI Alessandro   -207   2 teams
CAMPENAERTS Victor   -255   1 team
DENNIS Rohan   -515   1 team

And if riders can get negative scores on the day, so can teams,  as two illustrate today, but most are moving in the right direction.

1   LosBrolin   650
2   Laarsland   565
3   Hakkie2   518
4   Nathanptz   487
5   Axl   445
6   Leadbelly   419
7   NorthAmericanScum   397
8   Mellow_Velo   392
9   Josedin   351
10   GPBlanco   350
11   Minessa   346
12   Rote_Laterne   332
13   Squire   322
14   Akuryo   313
15   Scrool07   310
16   BikeRacer33   305
17   Gotland   302
18   Bminchow   295
19   Koronin   289
20   Paniou   281
21   Salvarani   276
22   TotalPackage   229
23   Del1962   207
23   Shalgo   207
25   Carlo_Algatrensig   205
26   Crevaison   160
27   SemirS   157
28   BluesInTheBottle   153
29   AmisVelo   152
30   Search   147
31   BicycleBoy   146
32   Armchair_Cyclist   139
33   Vladimir   138
34   LightBing   92
35   MidnightFright   -160
36   Yellow_Knight   -276
   Collective_Wisdom   246

Standings

It is very early, but some of the damage (Hello, Porte teams) is probably already permanent.  Yesterdays positions were fairly irrelevant: 8 teams moved up by 10 or more, and new leader Los Brolin by more than anyone else (17 places)
1   LosBrolin   865
2   Hakkie2   837
3   GPBlanco   834
4   Nathanptz   807
5   Laarsland   784
6   Koronin   703
7   Minessa   689
8   Mellow_Velo   659
9   Josedin   654
10   Axl   636
11   Gotland   607
12   Leadbelly   575
12   NorthAmericanScum   575
14   Rote_Laterne   571
15   Paniou   550
16   Yellow_Knight   543
17   Akuryo   483
18   Salvarani   472
19   BikeRacer33   457
20   Squire   453
21   Scrool07   451
22   TotalPackage   446
23   Carlo_Algatrensig   442
24   Bminchow   440
25   AmisVelo   391
26   Del1962   383
26   Shalgo   383
28   Vladimir   357
29   BluesInTheBottle   343
30   MidnightFright   341
31   Armchair_Cyclist   329
32   Crevaison   312
33   SemirS   310
34   BicycleBoy   302
35   Search   278
36   LightBing   229
   Collective_Wisdom   422

Tomorrow, by contrast, is likely to be the type of day when there are few changes other than the green points manifesting themselves in the red table. 

Probably.

Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 27, 2018, 19:42
Stage 3 A sprint on the coast

Green points
Most of the sprinters that we have chosen appear here (Walscheid, on 6 teams, is the notable absentee), but with the limited number of suitable stages, the more expensive of the species are not selected much.

VIVIANI Elia   70pts   0
NIZZOLO Giacomo   40   14 teams
SAGAN Peter   25   0
KWIATKOWSKI Michal   18   0
BOUHANNI Nacer   15   2 teams
CONSONNI Simone   10   0
VAN POPPEL Danny   7   2 teams
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael   5   0
TRENTIN Matteo   3   1 team
GIBBONS Ryan   2   11 teams
VAN ASBROECK Tom   1   2 teams

1   TotalPackage   55 (Nizzolo and Bouhanni)
2   Shalgo   49 (Nizzolo, Van Poppel and Gibbons)
3   AmisVelo, Bminchow, Gotland, Mellow_Velo, Search   42 (Nizzolo and Gibbons
8   Armchair_Cyclist, BikeRacer33, BluesInTheBottle, MidnightFright, Paniou, Salvarani, Scrool07   40
15   LightBing   18
16   NorthAmericanScum   7
17   Del1962, Josedin, Laarsland, Minessa, SemirS   2
22   Crevaison, Vladimir   1

Standings
1   Yellow_Knight   96
2   Koronin   77
3   MidnightFright   68
4   Mellow_Velo   63
5   Gotland   61
6   TotalPackage   58
7   Bminchow   54
7   Shalgo   54
9   BikeRacer33   52
9   Search   52

Red points

Not much other than the daily points: Campanaerts drop was the most significant GC action, and Valverde rises to 2nd in the points competition.

NIZZOLO Giacomo   47pts   14 teams
BOUHANNI Nacer   15   2 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   10   1 team
...
DENNIS Rohan   -25   1 team
CAMPENAERTS Victor   -67   1 team


1   TotalPackage   76
2   Shalgo   68
3   BluesInTheBottle   61
4   AmisVelo   60
4   Bminchow   60
6   Salvarani   59
6   Scrool07   59
8   Gotland   56
8   Search   56
10   Armchair_Cyclist   55
11   Paniou   53
12   Mellow_Velo   52
13   BikeRacer33   50
14   LightBing   26
15   Carlo_Algatrensig   19
16   Squire   17
16   Vladimir   17
18   Koronin   15
19   Del1962   14
20   Crevaison   13
21   Axl   10
21   Hakkie2   10
23   SemirS   9
24   Josedin   7
24   Rote_Laterne   7
26   Akuryo   6
26   BicycleBoy   6
28   LosBrolin   5
28   Minessa   5
28   NorthAmericanScum   5
31   Nathanptz   1
32   GPBlanco   -2
33   Laarsland   -3
33   Leadbelly   -3
35   MidnightFright   -8
36   Yellow_Knight   -23
   Collective_Wisdom   63


Standings
A day of calm after yesterday, top 6 unchanged, Gotland the only new team in the top ten, and Total Package's 5 place jump the biggest.

1   LosBrolin   870
2   Hakkie2   847
3   GPBlanco   832
4   Nathanptz   808
5   Laarsland   781
6   Koronin   718
7   Mellow_Velo   711
8   Minessa   694
9   Gotland   663
10   Josedin   661
11   Axl   646
12   Paniou   603
13   NorthAmericanScum   580
14   Rote_Laterne   578
15   Leadbelly   572
16   Salvarani   531
17   TotalPackage   522
18   Yellow_Knight   520
19   Scrool07   510
20   BikeRacer33   507
21   Bminchow   500
22   Akuryo   489
23   Squire   470
24   Carlo_Algatrensig   461
25   AmisVelo   451
25   Shalgo   451
27   BluesInTheBottle   404
28   Del1962   397
29   Armchair_Cyclist   384
30   Vladimir   374
31   Search   334
32   MidnightFright   333
33   Crevaison   325
34   SemirS   319
35   BicycleBoy   308
36   LightBing   255
   Collective_Wisdom   485

Tomorrow should see a bit more of a shakedown, with mountain men passing those who could cope with yesterday's hill but not something much bigger.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 28, 2018, 18:12
Stage 4 The first mountain finish

Green points

Breakaway riders traditionally are fairly popular as low-mid price punts in these games, but we didn't do well, on today's evidence, of picking the right ones.  I'm willing to bet that the two teams picking Cabedo were not expecting him to be second best scorer on any stage.

KING Benjamin   70pts   0 team
STALNOV Nikita   40   0  team
ROLLAND Pierre   25   0 team
KWIATKOWSKI Michal   18   0 team
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel   15   1 team
GASTAUER Ben   10   0 team
WALLAYS Jelle   7   0 team
CABEDO CARDA Oscar   5   2 teams
YATES Simon   3   3 teams
BUCHMANN Emanuel   2   10 teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   1   3 teams

1   Scrool07   15
2   BluesInTheBottle, Mellow_Velo   5
4   BicycleBoy   4 (Yates and Lopez)
5   AmisVelo, SemirS   3
7   ten teams with Buchmann   2
17   two other Lopez teams   1

Standings

1   Yellow_Knight   98
2   Koronin   77
3   Mellow_Velo   68
3   MidnightFright   68
5   Gotland   61
6   TotalPackage   58
7   Scrool07   57
8   Bminchow   54
8   Shalgo   54
10   Search   53

Red points

As expected, the real contenders now are concentrated around the top, but there will surely be plenty more adjuustment of their order.  And as can be seen from Valverde's 3-figure point loss on the day, those in high positions can lose a lot without necessarily losing much time or many prospects in the race.

YATES Simon   206pts   3 teams
BUCHMANN Emanuel   187   10 teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   43   3 teams
MAS NICOLAU Enric   31   10 teams
PINOT Thibaut   28   3 teams
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   27   2 teams
BENNETT George   26   8 teams
DUPONT Hubert   25   2 teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   22   15 teams
MEINTJES Louis   20   20 teams
...
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -25   1 team
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   -47   1 team
KELDERMAN Wilco   -78   3 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -117   1 team
FELLINE Fabio   -200   4 teams
DE PLUS Laurens   -203   6  teams

1   Axl   296 (Buchmann, Mas, de la Cruz, Meintjes)
2   Akuryo   262 (Buchmann, de la Cruz, Meintjes)
3   BicycleBoy   260 (Yates, Lopez, de la Cruz)
4   AmisVelo   247
5   SemirS   241
6   Rote_Laterne   238
7   Carlo_Algatrensig   236
8   Yellow_Knight   212
9   Josedin   204
10   Squire   150
11   Bminchow   95
12   Salvarani   92
13   Hakkie2   91
14   BikeRacer33   90
15   Search   85
16   BluesInTheBottle   72
17   Del1962   65
18   Crevaison   62
19   Shalgo   61
20   Nathanptz   54
21   Armchair_Cyclist   49
22   LosBrolin   47
23   MidnightFright   43
24   Vladimir   41
25   LightBing   30
25   Scrool07   30
27   Laarsland   15
28   Mellow_Velo   -28
29   Minessa   -37
30   Gotland   -40
31   Koronin   -67
32   TotalPackage   -127
33   Leadbelly   -139
34   Paniou   -153
35   NorthAmericanScum   -206
36   GPBlanco   -283
   Collective_Wisdom   83

Standings

Out of this morning's top ten, Hakkie fared best today, but only came 13th on the day.  He and Los Brolin retain places on the podium, but are passed by Axl who wasn't even in the top ten at the beginning of the day.  The other podium place yesterday was held by someone who has dropped 19 places, but that wasn't even the biggest fall of the day.  There are 5 new teams in the top ten, including Amis Velo, who shares with Bicycle Boy the honour of biggest rise of the day (15 places): 4 others also went 10 or more places in the right direction.

1   Axl   942
2   Hakkie2   938
3   LosBrolin   917
4   Josedin   865
5   Nathanptz   862
6   Rote_Laterne   816
7   Laarsland   796
8   Akuryo   751
9   Yellow_Knight   732
10   AmisVelo   698
11   Carlo_Algatrensig   697
12   Mellow_Velo   683
13   Minessa   657
14   Koronin   651
15   Gotland   623
15   Salvarani   623
17   Squire   620
18   BikeRacer33   597
19   Bminchow   595
20   BicycleBoy   568
21   SemirS   560
22   GPBlanco   549
23   Scrool07   540
24   Shalgo   512
25   BluesInTheBottle   476
26   Del1962   462
27   Paniou   450
28   Armchair_Cyclist   433
28   Leadbelly   433
30   Search   419
31   Vladimir   415
32   TotalPackage   395
33   Crevaison   387
34   MidnightFright   376
35   NorthAmericanScum   374
36   LightBing   285
   Collective_Wisdom   568

Not expecting anything very dramatic in the table between now and Sunday, but something will happen.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 29, 2018, 22:34
Stage 5 Breakaway wins, and an unexpected red jersey

Green points
Another set of breakaway riders that we largely overlooked.

CLARKE Simon   70   0
MOLLEMA Bauke   40   0
DE MARCHI Alessandro   25   2
MOLARD Rudy   25   0
VILLELLA Davide   15   0
DE TIER Floris   10   1
MONFORT Maxime   5   3
LASTRA MARTINEZ Jonathan   3   0
PELLIZOTTI Franco   2   1
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   1   0

1   GPBlanco, Koronin   25
3   Vladimir   10
4   Axl, BicycleBoy, LightBing   5
7   Los Brolin   2
That's all!

Standings
Koronin now has a stage win and a third, and top place here.
1   Koronin   102
2   Yellow_Knight   98
3   GPBlanco   68
3   Mellow_Velo   68
3   MidnightFright   68
6   Gotland   61
7   TotalPackage   58
8   Scrool07   57
9   Bminchow   54
9   Shalgo   54

Red points
I said yesterday that something would happen, but didn't expect that.
If Molard is to gain lots of prospective GC points (he is +477 on the day, had anyone picked him), others must lose them, and the points distribution is such that the higher the rider is on GC, the more points he loses by being overtaken by Molard (or anyone else).  So:
DE MARCHI Alessandro   35   2   teams
DE TIER Floris   27   1   team
...
DUPONT Hubert   -12   2
MAS NICOLAU Enric   -15   10
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -15   17
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -25   1
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -26   1
KELDERMAN Wilco   -29   3
YATES Simon   -50   3
BUCHMANN Emanuel   -60   10

On that principle, those who have lost more points are those who have high scoring riders: the first shall be last and all that. (I like Maths challenges: Spearman's R for today's net changes against this mornings standings is -0.896)

1   LightBing   -7
2   GPBlanco   -8
3   Koronin   -12
3   Vladimir   -12
5   MidnightFright   -21
6   NorthAmericanScum   -23
7   Search   -25
8   Leadbelly   -26
9   Paniou   -28
10   Crevaison   -29
10   TotalPackage   -29
12   Armchair_Cyclist   -32
13   Del1962   -33
14   BluesInTheBottle   -36
14   Scrool07   -36
14   Shalgo   -36
17   Bminchow   -42
18   BikeRacer33   -45
19   Gotland   -48
20   Salvarani   -51
21   BicycleBoy   -54
21   Minessa   -54
23   Mellow_Velo   -59
24   SemirS   -60
24   Squire   -60
26   Yellow_Knight   -75
27   AmisVelo   -85
28   Akuryo   -88
29   Carlo_Algatrensig   -89
29   Laarsland   -89
31   Rote_Laterne   -92
32   Josedin   -99
33   LosBrolin   -103
34   Axl   -104
35   Hakkie2   -106
36   Nathanptz   -110
   Collective_Wisdom   -40


Standings

Compaction of the table rather than much positional change today: Koronin's jump of 4 places is simultaneously the highest placed change, the only entry into the top ten, and the biggest rise.

1   Axl   838
2   Hakkie2   832
3   LosBrolin   814
4   Josedin   766
5   Nathanptz   752
6   Rote_Laterne   724
7   Laarsland   707
8   Akuryo   663
9   Yellow_Knight   657
10   Koronin   639
11   Mellow_Velo   624
12   AmisVelo   613
13   Carlo_Algatrensig   608
14   Minessa   603
15   Gotland   575
16   Salvarani   572
17   Squire   560
18   Bminchow   553
19   BikeRacer33   552
20   GPBlanco   541
21   BicycleBoy   514
22   Scrool07   504
23   SemirS   500
24   Shalgo   476
25   BluesInTheBottle   440
26   Del1962   429
27   Paniou   422
28   Leadbelly   407
29   Vladimir   403
30   Armchair_Cyclist   401
31   Search   394
32   TotalPackage   366
33   Crevaison   358
34   MidnightFright   355
35   NorthAmericanScum   351
36   LightBing   278
   Collective_Wisdom   528

Tomorrow should see a day of green points only.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 30, 2018, 18:40
Stage 6  Echelons before a sprint

A rather different permutation of sprinters from that on stage 3 , and an unexpected little bonus for Lopez' teams.

BOUHANNI Nacer   70pts   2 teams
VAN POPPEL Danny   40   2 teams
VIVIANI Elia   25   0 team
MOLARD Rudy   18   0 team
CONSONNI Simone   15   0 team
TRENTIN Matteo   10   1 team
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   7   2 teams
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   5   0 team
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   3   3 teams
SAGAN Peter   2   0 team
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael   1   0 team

1   LightBing   80 (Bouhanni and Trentin)
2   TotalPackage   70
3   NorthAmericanScum, Shalgo   40
5   BikeRacer33, Rote_Laterne   7
7   BicycleBoy, GPBlanco, Search   3

Standings

1   TotalPackage   128
2   LightBing   106
3   Koronin   102
4   Yellow_Knight   98
5   Shalgo   94
6   NorthAmericanScum   82
7   GPBlanco   71
8   Mellow_Velo   68
8   MidnightFright   68
10   Gotland   61


Red points

BOUHANNI Nacer   70   2 teams
VAN POPPEL Danny   50   2 teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   25   3 teams
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   25   1 team
BENNETT George   24   8 teams
DE PLUS Laurens   22   6 teams
ARU Fabio   20   20 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto   18   20 teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   16   15 teams
MAS NICOLAU Enric   15   10 teams
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   15   17 teams
TRENTIN Matteo   10   1 team
...
DE TIER Floris   -13   1 team
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -16   1 team
PINOT Thibaut   -30   3 teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   -140   3 teams

LightBing is struggling in the table, but he has been top of the daily scores twice in a row.

1   LightBing   118 (Bouhanni, Aru, Uran and Trentin)
2   NorthAmericanScum   113 (Van Poppel, Bennett, De Plus, de la Cruz)
3   TotalPackage   111 (Bouhanni, Aru and Uran)
4   Shalgo   104
5   Squire   94
6   GPBlanco   81
7   LosBrolin   80
8   BikeRacer33   78
9   Bminchow   76
10   Search   71
11   Josedin   69
11   Salvarani   69
13   Axl   67
13   Rote_Laterne   67
15   Hakkie2   66
16   Laarsland   59
17   Akuryo   56
17   BluesInTheBottle   56
17   Nathanptz   56
20   Del1962   55
21   Paniou   52
22   Scrool07   50
23   MidnightFright   41
24   BicycleBoy   40
25   Carlo_Algatrensig   38
26   SemirS   36
27   Yellow_Knight   33
28   Leadbelly   28
29   Vladimir   20
30   AmisVelo   11
31   Crevaison   5
32   Armchair_Cyclist   -6
32   Koronin   -6
34   Gotland   -85
35   Minessa   -91
36   Mellow_Velo   -106
   Collective_Wisdom   70


Standings

Yesterday, the three things I note here (highest placed mover, new entries to the top ten, biggest positive jump) were all filled by the same team.  Same today, but today it is Squire who ticks all the boxes.
 
1   Axl   905
2   Hakkie2   898
3   LosBrolin   894
4   Josedin   835
5   Nathanptz   808
6   Rote_Laterne   791
7   Laarsland   766
8   Akuryo   719
9   Yellow_Knight   690
10   Squire   654
11   Carlo_Algatrensig   646
12   Salvarani   641
13   Koronin   633
14   BikeRacer33   630
15   Bminchow   629
16   AmisVelo   624
17   GPBlanco   622
18   Shalgo   580
19   BicycleBoy   554
19   Scrool07   554
21   SemirS   536
22   Mellow_Velo   518
23   Minessa   512
24   BluesInTheBottle   496
25   Gotland   490
26   Del1962   484
27   TotalPackage   477
28   Paniou   474
29   Search   465
30   NorthAmericanScum   464
31   Leadbelly   435
32   Vladimir   423
33   LightBing   396
33   MidnightFright   396
35   Armchair_Cyclist   395
36   Crevaison   363
   Collective_Wisdom   598
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 31, 2018, 17:37
Stage 7 Not just an uphill sprint

Green points

GALLOPIN Tony   70pts   0 team
SAGAN Peter   40   0 team
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   25   1 team
MOLARD Rudy   18   0 team
PRADES REVERTER Eduard   15   0 team
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   10   0 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto   7   20 teams
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   5   1 team
MAS NICOLAU Enric   3   10 teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   2   3 teams
KUSS Sepp   1   1 team

It's several days since we have had more than a handful of scorers:
1   Koronin   29 (Valverde, Mas and Kuss)
2   Axl   , BluesInTheBottle, Salvarani, Squire   10 (Uran and Mas)
6   Gotland,    Mellow_Velo, Minessa   9 (Uran and Kelderman)
9   Thirteen Uran teams   7
22   Josedin   5
23   Five Mas teams   3

Standings

1   TotalPackage   135
2   Koronin   131
3   LightBing   113
4   Yellow_Knight   105
5   Shalgo   101
6   NorthAmericanScum   82
7   Mellow_Velo   77
8   MidnightFright   75
9   GPBlanco   74
10   Gotland   70

Red points
Valverde and Gallopin move up in the GC top ten, resulting in Kwiatkowski (unpicked) and Ion Izagirre moving down.
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   204   1
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   16   2
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   16   3
ZAKARIN Ilnur   12   3
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   10   1
DUPONT Hubert   10   2
...
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -20   1

One undoubted winner of the day:
1   Koronin   213
2   Carlo_Algatrensig   32
3   Scrool07   29
4   LosBrolin   27
5   Armchair_Cyclist   21
5   Squire   21
7   Crevaison   19
8   Nathanptz   18
9   TotalPackage   17
10   Search   15
11   AmisVelo   13
11   Mellow_Velo   13
11   Salvarani   13
14   BluesInTheBottle   12
14   Rote_Laterne   12
16   Del1962   10
16   Minessa   10
18   Gotland   9
18   MidnightFright   9
18   Vladimir   9
21   Akuryo   7
21   Axl   7
21   Hakkie2   7
21   LightBing   7
25   Leadbelly   6
25   SemirS   6
27   Paniou   5
27   Shalgo   5
27   Yellow_Knight   5
30   GPBlanco   4
31   Bminchow   3
32   BikeRacer33   2
33   BicycleBoy   0
34   Laarsland   -1
35   NorthAmericanScum   -8
36   Josedin   -20
   Collective_Wisdom   10

Standings
That top three are so close that it only took Dani Moreno moving up through the 30s in GC to move from 3rd to first.  Koronin's super-day brings him to just off the podium, the rise of the day (9 places), and the only new team in the top ten.

1   LosBrolin   921
2   Axl   912
3   Hakkie2   905
4   Koronin   846
5   Nathanptz   826
6   Josedin   815
7   Rote_Laterne   803
8   Laarsland   765
9   Akuryo   726
10   Yellow_Knight   695
11   Carlo_Algatrensig   678
12   Squire   675
13   Salvarani   654
14   AmisVelo   637
15   BikeRacer33   632
15   Bminchow   632
17   GPBlanco   626
18   Shalgo   585
19   Scrool07   583
20   BicycleBoy   554
21   SemirS   542
22   Mellow_Velo   531
23   Minessa   522
24   BluesInTheBottle   508
25   Gotland   499
26   Del1962   494
26   TotalPackage   494
28   Search   480
29   Paniou   479
30   NorthAmericanScum   456
31   Leadbelly   441
32   Vladimir   432
33   Armchair_Cyclist   416
34   MidnightFright   405
35   LightBing   403
36   Crevaison   382
   Collective_Wisdom   608
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 02, 2018, 11:40
Stage 8 An eclectic top ten for a bunch finish

Green points (Why didn't I think of adding the colour years ago?)

VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   70pts   1 team
SAGAN Peter   40   0
VAN POPPEL Danny   25   2
MOLARD Rudy   18   0
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   15   1
NIZZOLO Giacomo   10   14
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   7   0
YATES Simon   5   3
LAMBRECHT Bjorg   3   0
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   2   2
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   1   0

1   Koronin   70
2   Shalgo   35 (Van Poppel and Nizzolo)
3   NorthAmericanScum   25
4   AmisVelo, Josedin   15(Nizzolo and Yates)
6   BikeRacer33   12 (Nizzolo and Garcia)
7   Eleven Nizzolo teams   10
18   BicycleBoy, SemirS   5
20   Rote_Laterne   2

Standings

Valverde has more than twice as many stage points as any other selected rider, so the lead of the only team to have him is almost inevitable, especially after three days out of 4 as top scorer.
1   Koronin   201
2   TotalPackage   145
3   Shalgo   136
4   LightBing   113
5   NorthAmericanScum   107
6   Yellow_Knight   105
7   Mellow_Velo   87
8   MidnightFright   85
9   Gotland   80
10   BikeRacer33   74
10   GPBlanco   74


Red points

No GC change in the top 30-odd places, and little in the mointains or points classifications (although van Poppel makes some progress in the latter), so the changes are basically those from the stage finish.

VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   70pts   1 team
VAN POPPEL Danny   35   2
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   18   1
NIZZOLO Giacomo   17   14
YATES Simon   5   3
...
KELDERMAN Wilco   -1   3
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew   -1   1
PORTE Richie   -1   10
DE MARCHI Alessandro   -2   2
HERRADA LOPEZ Jose   -3   2
ZAKARIN Ilnur   -6   3

1   Koronin   69
2   Shalgo   55
3   NorthAmericanScum   35
4   AmisVelo   24
5   Josedin   21
6   Bminchow   20
6   Search   20
8   BikeRacer33   19
8   Gotland   19
8   Mellow_Velo   19
11   Salvarani   17
11   Scrool07   17
13   Armchair_Cyclist   16
13   BluesInTheBottle   16
13   MidnightFright   16
13   Paniou   16
13   TotalPackage   16
18   SemirS   10
19   BicycleBoy   5
20   Del1962   2
20   Laarsland   2
20   Minessa   2
23   Axl   0
23   Hakkie2   0
23   LightBing   0
23   LosBrolin   0
23   Nathanptz   0
23   Squire   0
23   Yellow_Knight   0
30   Leadbelly   -1
30   Rote_Laterne   -1
32   GPBlanco   -2
33   Akuryo   -4
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   -6
34   Crevaison   -6
34   Vladimir   -6
   Collective_Wisdom   20

Standings

Sometimes a manager lets his heart dictate his pick.  Sometimes a manager decides to risk more than half his budget on one rider. Occasionally those coincide.  And very rarely, one or both of those tactics pays off. But even if it makes you top scorer on 3 days out of 4, it might leave you just short...

1   LosBrolin   921
2   Koronin   915
3   Axl   912
4   Hakkie2   905
5   Josedin   836
6   Nathanptz   826
7   Rote_Laterne   802
8   Laarsland   767
9   Akuryo   722
10   Yellow_Knight   695
11   Squire   675
12   Carlo_Algatrensig   672
13   Salvarani   671
14   AmisVelo   661
15   Bminchow   652
16   BikeRacer33   651
17   Shalgo   640
18   GPBlanco   624
19   Scrool07   600
20   BicycleBoy   559
21   SemirS   552
22   Mellow_Velo   550
23   BluesInTheBottle   524
23   Minessa   524
25   Gotland   518
26   TotalPackage   510
27   Search   500
28   Del1962   496
29   Paniou   495
30   NorthAmericanScum   491
31   Leadbelly   440
32   Armchair_Cyclist   432
33   Vladimir   426
34   MidnightFright   421
35   LightBing   403
36   Crevaison   376
   Collective_Wisdom   628

In an almost neutralised day in the game, Koronin's 2 place hop from 4th to 2nd is the biggest step forward of the day, and Josedin is the only other manager to move up in the top ten.

Sorry for the late update: stage 9, now underway, should let us know how realistic the standings at this stage are.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 02, 2018, 17:44
Stage 9  La Covatilla, the second MTF repeats the result of the first

Green points

KING Benjamin   70points   0 teams
MOLLEMA Bauke   40   0
TEUNS Dylan   25   1
YATES Simon   20   3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   15   3
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   10   17
KELDERMAN Wilco   7   3
URAN URAN Rigoberto   5   20
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   3   1
BENNETT George   1   8

1   Nathanptz   40 (Teuns, Quintana, Uran)
2   BicycleBoy   35 (Yates, Lopez)
3   AmisVelo   30 (Yates and Quintana)
4   SemirS   25 (Yates, Uran)
5   Mellow_Velo, Minessa   22
7   GPBlanco, Rote_Laterne, Search   16
10   Axl, Del1962, LosBrolin, Paniou, Salvarani, Shalgo   15
16   Gotland   12
17   BikeRacer33, Bminchow   11
19   Hakkie2, Laarsland, Scrool07, Vladimir   10
23   Squire   6
24   BluesInTheBottle, Crevaison, Leadbelly, LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight   5
31   Josedin   4
32   NorthAmericanScum   1
33   Akuryo, Armchair_Cyclist, Carlo_Algatrensig, Koronin   0
   Collective_Wisdom   15

Standings

1   Koronin   201
2   Shalgo   151
3   TotalPackage   150
4   LightBing   118
5   Yellow_Knight   110
6   Mellow_Velo   109
7   NorthAmericanScum   108
8   AmisVelo   92
8   Gotland   92
10   GPBlanco   90
10   MidnightFright   90

Red points

Lots of GC change: the green points almost irrelevant today.


YATES Simon   255   3 teams
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   160   17 teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   94   3 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto   74   20 teams
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   53   1 team
TEUNS Dylan   30   1 team
KELDERMAN Wilco   26   3 teams
BENNETT George   16   8 teams
ARU Fabio   16   20 teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   14   15 teams
PINOT Thibaut   10   3 teams
...
DE PLUS Laurens   -14   6 teams
MAS NICOLAU Enric   -23   10 teams
BUCHMANN Emanuel   -50   10 teams


Most of the points lost were held by the unchosen Kwiatkowski and Molard, so we nearly all end up in the black.

1   AmisVelo   414 (Yates and Quintana)
2   BicycleBoy   363 (Yates, Lopez and de la Cruz)
3   SemirS   339 (Yates, Uran and de la Cruz)
4   Minessa   271
5   Mellow_Velo   256
6   Del1962   253
7   Paniou   241
7   Shalgo   241
9   Salvarani   226
10   Nathanptz   209
11   Bminchow   202
12   Rote_Laterne   197
12   Vladimir   197
14   LosBrolin   190
15   Scrool07   183
16   Axl   181
17   BikeRacer33   160
18   Hakkie2   123
19   Gotland   120
20   Search   112
21   Laarsland   109
22   Crevaison   106
22   Squire   106
24   TotalPackage   93
25   LightBing   90
26   MidnightFright   89
27   Leadbelly   84
28   GPBlanco   79
29   BluesInTheBottle   66
30   Yellow_Knight   40
31   Josedin   32
32   NorthAmericanScum   14
33   Armchair_Cyclist   -8
34   Koronin   -9
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   -10
36   Akuryo   -46
   Collective_Wisdom   260

Standings
Los Brolin slightly extends his lead, and Axl regains the second place he lost yesterday, but lots of change behind those two, with the three Yates teams gatecrashing the top ten, led by Amis Velo in third place, although Bicycle Boy had a slightly bigger (13 place) jump.  Salvarani, courtesy of Quintana and Uran, also breaks into the top ten.

1   LosBrolin   1111
2   Axl   1093
3   AmisVelo   1075
4   Nathanptz   1035
5   Hakkie2   1028
6   Rote_Laterne   999
7   BicycleBoy   922
8   Koronin   906
9   Salvarani   897
10   SemirS   891
11   Shalgo   881
12   Laarsland   876
13   Josedin   868
14   Bminchow   854
15   BikeRacer33   811
16   Mellow_Velo   806
17   Minessa   795
18   Scrool07   783
19   Squire   781
20   Del1962   749
21   Paniou   736
22   Yellow_Knight   735
23   GPBlanco   703
24   Akuryo   676
25   Carlo_Algatrensig   662
26   Gotland   638
27   Vladimir   623
28   Search   612
29   TotalPackage   603
30   BluesInTheBottle   590
31   Leadbelly   524
32   MidnightFright   510
33   NorthAmericanScum   505
34   LightBing   493
35   Crevaison   482
36   Armchair_Cyclist   424
   Collective_Wisdom   888

After a blip in the Tour, I am back in my more accustomed place.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 03, 2018, 14:31
Rest Day 1
A focus on the scores of the riders, rather than the teams.

Green points

We have not done particularly well in selecting those getting good stage placings or red jersey wearers so far, and the scores in this category are rather low.

1   VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   165pts   1 team (Koronin, this one rider alone would put him top)
2   KING Benjamin   140   0 (would only have cost 77 points)
3   KWIATKOWSKI Michal   134   0
4   SAGAN Peter   107   0
5   VIVIANI Elia   95   0

6   DENNIS Rohan   88   1 (Yellow Knight)
7   BOUHANNI Nacer   85   2 (LightBing and Total Package)
8   MOLLEMA Bauke   80   0
9   MOLARD Rudy   79   0
10   GALLOPIN Tony   77   0

11   VAN POPPEL Danny   72   2 (NAS and Shalgo)
12   CLARKE Simon   70   0 (Other than Stalnov and King, only one who might have been a decent pick on %age return for green points alone so far)

13   NIZZOLO Giacomo   50   14 (including Total Package and Shalgo)
14   STALNOV Nikita   40   0 (Even cheaper than King)

15   DE MARCHI Alessandro   32   2 (Koronin and Gotland)
16   YATES Simon   28   3 (Amis Velo, Bicycle Boy and SemirS)

Red points

1   VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   610pts   1 team (His green points, and those in minor categories, more than make up for the point differential between first and second)
2   YATES Simon   528   3
3   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   327   17
4   GALLOPIN Tony   294   0
5   KING Benjamin   279   0

6   BUCHMANN Emanuel   272   10
7   IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   268   1
8   KWIATKOWSKI Michal   239   0

9   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   210   3
10   URAN URAN Rigoberto   180   20
11   SAGAN Peter   162   0
12   MOLLEMA Bauke   160   0
13   MOLARD Rudy   157   0
14   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   151   0

15   BENNETT George   146   8
16   KELDERMAN Wilco   122   3
17   ARU Fabio   120   20
18   VIVIANI Elia   117   0

19   MAS NICOLAU Enric   115   10
20   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   104   15
21   DENNIS Rohan   103   1
22   BOUHANNI Nacer   100   2
22   MATE MARDONES Luis Angel   100   1

Who among these do the top teams have?
1   LosBrolin   1111 Quintana, Buchmann, Uran, Aru
2   Axl   1093 Quintana, Buchmann, Uran, Mas, de la Cruz
3   AmisVelo   1075 Yates, Quintana
4   Nathanptz   1035 Quintana, Buchmann, Uran
5   Hakkie2   1028 Quintana, Buchmann, Aru, Mas, de la Cruz
6   Rote_Laterne   999  Quintana, Buchmann, Uran, Bennett
7   BicycleBoy   922 Yates, Lopez, de la Cruz
8   Koronin   906 Valverde, Mas
9   Salvarani   897 Quintana, Uran, Aru, Mas
10   SemirS   891 Yates, Uran, de la Cruz

Expensive picks not in that list of 100 point plus riders include Pinot (3 teams), Martin (1), Trentin (1), Zakarin (3), and Porte (10).  SemirS and Laarsland manage 10th and 12th despite having lost budget on Porte: no-one else with these expensive failures make the top 20.

I am honour bound to be the second person to have a team ready, but why did the other teams who had selected Porte not do as Shalgo did, and swap him out when he was too ill to attend the pre-race formalities?
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 04, 2018, 19:30
Stage 10  Across the plateau to a sprint

Green points

The popular pick among the sprinters is becoming decent value.

VIVIANI Elia   70   0
SAGAN Peter   40   0
NIZZOLO Giacomo   25   14
YATES Simon   18   3
SOTO MARTINEZ Nelson Andres   15   0
SARREAU Marc   10   0
VAN POPPEL Danny   7   2
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   5   2
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   3   2
CONSONNI Simone   2   0
TRENTIN Matteo   1   1

1   AmisVelo   43 (Nizzolo and Yates)
2   Shalgo   32 (Nizzolo and Van Poppel)
3   BikeRacer33   30 (Nizzolo and Garcia)
4   Eleven more Nizzolo teams   25
15   BicycleBoy, SemirS   18
17   NorthAmericanScum   10
18   Rote_Laterne   5
19   Josedin   3
20   LightBing   1

Standings
1   Koronin   201
2   Shalgo   183
3   TotalPackage   175
4   AmisVelo   135
5   Mellow_Velo   134
6   LightBing   119
7   NorthAmericanScum   118
8   Gotland   117
9   BikeRacer33   115
9   MidnightFright   115


Red points

Almost nothing at all happening in the GC, and while Valverde moves up in the mountains category, he loses the lead in the points.

There are so few selected riders with a change today, I'll give them all:
NIZZOLO Giacomo   32pts   14 teams
YATES Simon   18   3
VAN POPPEL Danny   7   2
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   5   2
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   3   2
TRENTIN Matteo   1   1
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   1   4
HERRADA LOPEZ Jose   1   2
...
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -1   3
KELDERMAN Wilco   -1   3
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -1   1
DE TIER Floris   -1   1
SAEZ BENITO Hector   -1   1
TEUNS Dylan   -2   1
MARTIN Daniel   -15   1
PETILLI Simone   -15   1
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -25   1


2 selected riders have dropped out of the race: they lose the 15 points they were on schedule for getting as finishers, but had no other points.  Of course, the loss of Petilli does less damage to a team's budget than that of Dan Martin.

1   AmisVelo   50
2   Shalgo   39
3   BikeRacer33   37
4   Armchair_Cyclist   32
4   BluesInTheBottle   32
4   Bminchow   32
4   MidnightFright   32
4   Paniou   32
4   Salvarani   32
4   Scrool07   32
4   TotalPackage   32
12   Gotland   31
12   Mellow_Velo   31
12   Search   31
15   BicycleBoy   17
15   SemirS   17
17   NorthAmericanScum   11
18   Rote_Laterne   6
19   Josedin   2
20   Akuryo   1
20   LightBing   1
20   Squire   1
23   Carlo_Algatrensig   0
23   Crevaison   0
23   Del1962   0
23   Hakkie2   0
23   Laarsland   0
23   Leadbelly   0
23   LosBrolin   0
23   Vladimir   0
31   GPBlanco   -1
31   Minessa   -1
31   Nathanptz   -1
34   Axl   -15
34   Yellow_Knight   -15
36   Koronin   -25
   Collective_Wisdom   32

Standings
 There weren't many points today, but there were enough to put Amis Velo top of the table, up from third. Shalgo is into the top ten, also on a 2 place rise, but they are outdone, just, by Bminchow.

1   AmisVelo   1125
2   LosBrolin   1111
3   Axl   1078
4   Nathanptz   1034
5   Hakkie2   1028
6   Rote_Laterne   1005
7   BicycleBoy   939
8   Salvarani   929
9   Shalgo   920
10   SemirS   908
11   Bminchow   886
12   Koronin   881
13   Laarsland   876
14   Josedin   870
15   BikeRacer33   848
16   Mellow_Velo   837
17   Scrool07   815
18   Minessa   794
19   Squire   782
20   Paniou   768
21   Del1962   749
22   Yellow_Knight   720
23   GPBlanco   702
24   Akuryo   677
25   Gotland   669
26   Carlo_Algatrensig   662
27   Search   643
28   TotalPackage   635
29   Vladimir   623
30   BluesInTheBottle   622
31   MidnightFright   542
32   Leadbelly   524
33   NorthAmericanScum   516
34   LightBing   494
35   Crevaison   482
36   Armchair_Cyclist   456
   Collective_Wisdom   920
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 05, 2018, 19:25
Stage 11  A break that could have broken the race lead

Green points

Some good value break away riders there

DE MARCHI Alessandro   70pts   2 teams
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan   40   1
PELLIZOTTI Franco   25   1
YATES Simon   18   3
PETERS Nans   15   0
TEUNS Dylan   10   1
BENOOT Tiesj   7   0
MAJKA Rafal   5   0
ROCHE Nicolas   3   0
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   2   1
PINOT Thibaut   1   3

1   GPBlanco, Koronin   70
3   Crevaison   41
4   LosBrolin   25
5   AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, SemirS   18
8   Nathanptz   10
9   Scrool07   2
10   Armchair_Cyclist, Leadbelly   1

Stabdings
1   Koronin   271
2   Shalgo   183
3   TotalPackage   175
4   GPBlanco   160
5   AmisVelo   153
6   Mellow_Velo   134
7   LightBing   119
8   NorthAmericanScum   118
9   Gotland   117
10   BikeRacer33   115
10   MidnightFright   115

Red points

We Pinot teams were getting optimistic 50km out, but there were some GC changes, mainly down to Buchmann and Aru not holding the main group.  Valverde regains the points lead.

DE MARCHI Alessandro   80   2
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan   40   1
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   30   1
PELLIZOTTI Franco   25   1
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   24   1
YATES Simon   18   3
TEUNS Dylan   11   1
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   10   1
...
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   -10   2
DE PLUS Laurens   -14   6
BOUHANNI Nacer   -15   2
ARU Fabio   -16   20
BUCHMANN Emanuel   -50   10

More bad news than good, mainly because of the popularity of Aru and Buchmann

1   Koronin   126
2   GPBlanco   80
3   BicycleBoy   26
4   SemirS   25
5   Crevaison   23
6   AmisVelo   20
7   BikeRacer33   14
8   Minessa   8
9   Paniou   6
9   Search   6
9   Squire   6
12   Mellow_Velo   4
13   Armchair_Cyclist   3
14   BluesInTheBottle   -4
14   Bminchow   -4
14   Salvarani   -4
17   Leadbelly   -5
18   NorthAmericanScum   -6
19   Del1962   -10
19   Gotland   -10
19   Vladimir   -10
22   MidnightFright   -12
22   Scrool07   -12
22   Shalgo   -12
25   Axl   -28
26   TotalPackage   -29
27   LightBing   -31
28   Josedin   -42
29   Hakkie2   -44
30   Nathanptz   -47
31   Akuryo   -48
31   Rote_Laterne   -48
33   LosBrolin   -49
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   -54
35   Yellow_Knight   -66
36   Laarsland   -80
   Collective_Wisdom   -4

Standings

Amis Velo extends his lead, mainly by dint of not having Buchmann.  Not for the first time, Koronin's rather eclectic team takes the daily headlines, up 8 places and just off the podium.

1   AmisVelo   1145
2   LosBrolin   1062
3   Axl   1050
4   Koronin   1007
5   Nathanptz   987
6   Hakkie2   984
7   BicycleBoy   965
8   Rote_Laterne   957
9   SemirS   933
10   Salvarani   925
11   Shalgo   908
12   Bminchow   882
13   BikeRacer33   862
14   Mellow_Velo   841
15   Josedin   828
16   Scrool07   803
17   Minessa   802
18   Laarsland   796
19   Squire   788
20   GPBlanco   782
21   Paniou   774
22   Del1962   739
23   Gotland   659
24   Yellow_Knight   654
25   Search   649
26   Akuryo   629
27   BluesInTheBottle   618
28   Vladimir   613
29   Carlo_Algatrensig   608
30   TotalPackage   606
31   MidnightFright   530
32   Leadbelly   519
33   NorthAmericanScum   510
34   Crevaison   505
35   LightBing   463
36   Armchair_Cyclist   459
   Collective_Wisdom   916
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 06, 2018, 18:12
Stage 12  Yet another breakaway to the lighthouse.

Green points

As so often, scorers are few and far between

GENIEZ Alexandre   70   1
VAN BAARLE Dylan   40   0
PADUN Mark   25   3
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   18   0
TEUNS Dylan   15   1
CAMPENAERTS Victor   10   1
FORMOLO Davide   7   0
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   5   2
DEVENYNS Dries   3   0
DE GENDT Thomas   2   0
CONTI Valerio   1   0

Leader's jersey points again cease to be an issue, for a few days at least.

1   NorthAmericanScum   70
2   Josedin, Leadbelly, Salvarani   25
5   Nathanptz   15
6   MidnightFright   10
7   Armchair_Cyclist, Scrool07   5

Standings
1   Koronin   271
2   NorthAmericanScum   188
3   Shalgo   183
4   TotalPackage   175
5   GPBlanco   160
6   AmisVelo   153
7   Mellow_Velo   134
8   Salvarani   130
9   MidnightFright   125
10   LightBing   119


Red points

I checked on the spreadsheet mid-stage, and was briefly excited to see that two teams have Herrada, but that was the rather cheaper option, José, so noone gets the 458 point bonus that would come from being a follower of Jesús.  But lots of points lost because he (and to a lesser extent Brambilla) displaced so many riders who were higher in GC this morning.

GENIEZ Alexandre   70   1
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   57   2
TEUNS Dylan   27   1
PADUN Mark   25   3
CAMPENAERTS Victor   10   1
...
PINOT Thibaut   -10   3
KELDERMAN Wilco   -12   3
ARU Fabio   -14   20
URAN URAN Rigoberto   -15   20
BENNETT George   -15   8
BUCHMANN Emanuel   -25   10
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -25   3
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -26   1
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -50   17
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -60   1
YATES Simon   -125   3

Only 2 teams in the black because of the non-chase of Herrada, and as when Molard took the GC lead, the teams that had most GC points lose most.  (Spearman's R only -0.829 this time though)

1   NorthAmericanScum   40
2   Armchair_Cyclist   31
3   Leadbelly   -16
4   Scrool07   -23
5   MidnightFright   -27
6   LightBing   -29
7   BluesInTheBottle   -45
7   TotalPackage   -45
9   Crevaison   -46
10   Gotland   -49
11   Search   -54
11   Yellow_Knight   -54
13   Josedin   -55
14   Akuryo   -60
15   GPBlanco   -64
16   Carlo_Algatrensig   -68
17   Salvarani   -70
18   Paniou   -73
18   Squire   -73
20   Koronin   -78
20   Vladimir   -78
22   BikeRacer33   -81
23   Nathanptz   -84
24   Mellow_Velo   -85
24   Minessa   -85
26   Del1962   -87
26   Shalgo   -87
28   Bminchow   -95
29   Laarsland   -97
30   Rote_Laterne   -110
31   Hakkie2   -113
32   Axl   -114
33   LosBrolin   -126
34   SemirS   -148
35   BicycleBoy   -158
36   AmisVelo   -191
   Collective_Wisdom   -95

Standings
With those who had most losing most, this was more a compaction than a change, but there is some significant movement, with Axl stepping up to joint 2nd, Shalgo appearing in the top ten, Salvarani having a 3 place rise within the top ten, but NAS beating him with a 4 place step up.


1   AmisVelo   954
2   Axl   936
2   LosBrolin   936
4   Koronin   929
5   Nathanptz   903
6   Hakkie2   871
7   Salvarani   855
8   Rote_Laterne   847
9   Shalgo   821
10   BicycleBoy   807
11   Bminchow   787
12   SemirS   785
13   BikeRacer33   781
14   Scrool07   780
15   Josedin   773
16   Mellow_Velo   756
17   GPBlanco   718
18   Minessa   717
19   Squire   715
20   Paniou   701
21   Laarsland   699
22   Del1962   652
23   Gotland   610
24   Yellow_Knight   600
25   Search   595
26   BluesInTheBottle   573
27   Akuryo   569
28   TotalPackage   561
29   NorthAmericanScum   550
30   Carlo_Algatrensig   540
31   Vladimir   535
32   Leadbelly   503
32   MidnightFright   503
34   Armchair_Cyclist   490
35   Crevaison   459
36   LightBing   434
   Collective_Wisdom   821

Still very difficult to know where this game (or the race itself) is going.

Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 07, 2018, 20:14
Stage 13  The break stays clear on the Camperona

Green points

Friday's 13th stage proves lucky for 3 teams who were in search of a cheap 8th rider

RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   70   3
MAJKA Rafal   40   0
TEUNS Dylan   25   1
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   18   0
LAMBRECHT Bjorg   15   0
DE PLUS Laurens   10   6
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   7   0
ZAKARIN Ilnur   5   3
SERRY Pieter   3   0
RAVASI Edward   2   0
KING Benjamin   1   0

1   BicycleBoy, Rote_Laterne, Yellow_Knight   70
4   Nathanptz   35
5   GPBlanco, Laarsland,Leadbelly, LosBrolin,NorthAmericanScum   10
10   Carlo_Algatrensig, Crevaison, Vladimir   5


Standings

1   Koronin   271
2   NorthAmericanScum   198
3   Shalgo   183
4   Yellow_Knight   180
5   TotalPackage   175
6   GPBlanco   170
7   BicycleBoy   158
8   AmisVelo   153
9   Nathanptz   144
10   Mellow_Velo   134

Red points
In GC, Quintana overtakes Valverde, and Lopez and Uran overtake Izagirre, Gallopin and Buchmann, and lots of other changes all the way down

RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   77   3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   75   3
URAN URAN Rigoberto   65   20
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   50   17
TEUNS Dylan   48   1
DE PLUS Laurens   22   6
KELDERMAN Wilco   20   3
ZAKARIN Ilnur   14   3
PINOT Thibaut   10   3
...
ARU Fabio   -12   20
GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel   -15   2
BENNETT George   -24   8
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   -30   2
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -50   1
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -54   1
BUCHMANN Emanuel   -55   10

1   BicycleBoy   163 (Rodriguez and Lopez)
2   Minessa   143 (Uran, Quintana, Kelderman)
3   Mellow_Velo   131 (Uran, Quintana, Kelderman)
4   Paniou   121 (Uran and Quintana)
5   Nathanptz   118 (Uran, Quintana, Teuns, De Plus, but Buchmann)
6   Rote_Laterne   115 (Rodriguez, Uran, Quintana, but Bennett and Buchmann)
7   Salvarani   107
8   Del1962   101
9   Shalgo   96
10   Leadbelly   90
11   Gotland   79
12   Axl   77
12   Crevaison   77
14   Yellow_Knight   75
15   GPBlanco   74
16   SemirS   73
17   LosBrolin   64
18   BluesInTheBottle   57
19   LightBing   56
20   TotalPackage   55
21   AmisVelo   52
22   MidnightFright   49
23   Vladimir   46
24   BikeRacer33   40
25   Search   38
26   Squire   33
27   Bminchow   18
28   Scrool07   10
29   Laarsland   5
30   NorthAmericanScum   -2
31   Hakkie2   -3
32   Armchair_Cyclist   -16
33   Akuryo   -49
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   -51
35   Koronin   -56
36   Josedin   -141
   Collective_Wisdom   107

Standings

Chaos on the mountain, and in our game.  Nathanptz moves from 4th to take the lead, and Axl holds his position while Amis Velo and Los Brolin both drop 2 places.  Further down the top ten, Rote Laterne, Salvarani and Shalgo all move up, but are all overtaken in BicycleBoy's 5 place leap. An even bigger, 7 place, jump brings Mellow Velo into the top ten.

1   Nathanptz   1021
2   Axl   1013
3   AmisVelo   1006
4   LosBrolin   1000
5   BicycleBoy   970
6   Rote_Laterne   962
6   Salvarani   962
8   Shalgo   917
9   Mellow_Velo   887
10   Koronin   873
11   Hakkie2   868
12   Minessa   860
13   SemirS   858
14   Paniou   822
15   BikeRacer33   821
16   Bminchow   805
17   GPBlanco   792
18   Scrool07   790
19   Del1962   753
20   Squire   748
21   Laarsland   704
22   Gotland   689
23   Yellow_Knight   675
24   Search   633
25   Josedin   632
26   BluesInTheBottle   630
27   TotalPackage   616
28   Leadbelly   593
29   Vladimir   581
30   MidnightFright   552
31   NorthAmericanScum   548
32   Crevaison   536
33   Akuryo   520
34   LightBing   490
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   489
36   Armchair_Cyclist   474
   Collective_Wisdom   928
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on September 08, 2018, 10:05
Friday's 13th stage proves lucky for 3 teams who were in search of a cheap 8th rider

Yes, very good pick. I'm Pretty sure none of us knew who he was and weren't even sure he'd finish a GT.
Geoghegan Hart was not a good pick so far, I hoped we would get his chances as  #sky didn't show up with a strong leader and he would finish Top 20.

Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 08, 2018, 20:10
Stage 14 Longer, but not as steep as yesterday, and the GC guys at the front for once, at Les Praeres

Green points
At last, the serious picks dominate the stage

YATES Simon   88   3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   40   3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   25   1
PINOT Thibaut   15   3
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   10   17
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   7   0
MAS NICOLAU Enric   5   10
URAN URAN Rigoberto   3   20
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   2   1
ARU Fabio   1   20

1   BicycleBoy   128 (Yates and Lopez)
2   AmisVelo   98 (Yates and Quintana)
3   SemirS   91 (Yates and Uran)
4   GPBlanco   45 (Lopez and Mas)
5   Search   40
6   Koronin   30
7   Armchair_Cyclist   20
8   Crevaison, Salvarani   19
10   Axl, Leadbelly   18
12   Hakkie2   16
13   BikeRacer33   15
14   Del1962, LosBrolin, Shalgo   14
17   Mellow_Velo, Minessa, Nathanptz, Paniou, Rote_Laterne   13
22   Bminchow, Laarsland, Scrool07, Vladimir   11
26   BluesInTheBottle, Squire   9
28   Akuryo   6
29   Gotland, LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight   4
34   Josedin   3
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   1
36   NorthAmericanScum   0
   Collective_Wisdom   14

Standings
Koronin reaches the 300 mark, but has close competition for the first time. Red jersey points will probably be a factor more consistently from here on in.

1   Koronin   301
2   BicycleBoy   286
3   AmisVelo   251
4   GPBlanco   215
5   NorthAmericanScum   198
6   Shalgo   197
7   Yellow_Knight   184
8   TotalPackage   179
9   SemirS   172
10   Nathanptz   157

Red points

Lots of points that Herrada had borrowed for two day returned, but not distributed in exactly the same way.

YATES Simon   218   3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   136   1
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   67   3
PINOT Thibaut   51   3
MAS NICOLAU Enric   50   10
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   30   2
ARU Fabio   27   20
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   10   17
...
TEUNS Dylan   -13   1
SIVAKOV Pavel   -15   1
MEINTJES Louis   -16   20
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -28   15
DE PLUS Laurens   -28   6
BENNETT George   -34   8

1   BicycleBoy   255 (Yates and Lopez, but de la Cruz)
2   AmisVelo   215 (Yates and Quintana, but Meintjes)
3   SemirS   193  (Yates but de la Cruz)
4   Koronin   173 (Valverde and Mas, but Meintjes)
5   Armchair_Cyclist   114 (Pinot, Mas and Brambilla, but Meintjes)
6   Salvarani   73
7   BluesInTheBottle   63
8   Crevaison   60
9   Akuryo   50
10   Scrool07   48
11   Hakkie2   43
12   GPBlanco   37
13   LightBing   32
14   Yellow_Knight   26
15   Del1962   24
16   Shalgo   23
17   Axl   21
18   TotalPackage   17
18   Vladimir   17
20   MidnightFright   13
21   Gotland   9
21   Laarsland   9
21   Squire   9
24   Mellow_Velo   4
25   Leadbelly   -2
25   Search   -2
27   BikeRacer33   -3
28   Josedin   -5
29   Minessa   -7
30   LosBrolin   -10
31   Paniou   -16
32   Rote_Laterne   -24
33   Carlo_Algatrensig   -26
34   Nathanptz   -37
35   Bminchow   -42
36   NorthAmericanScum   -90
   Collective_Wisdom   -5

Standings
Top scorer 2 days in a row, Bicycle Boy has moved in that time from 10th to top.  He is just 4 points clear of Amis Velo, up from 3rd yesterday, and the clean sweep of Yates teams on the podium is completed by Semir, who has made the biggest jump of the day, 10 places. 

1   BicycleBoy   1225
2   AmisVelo   1221
3   SemirS   1051
4   Koronin   1046
5   Salvarani   1035
6   Axl   1034
7   LosBrolin   990
8   Nathanptz   984
9   Shalgo   940
10   Rote_Laterne   938
11   Hakkie2   911
12   Mellow_Velo   891
13   Minessa   853
14   Scrool07   838
15   GPBlanco   829
16   BikeRacer33   818
17   Paniou   806
18   Del1962   777
19   Bminchow   763
20   Squire   757
21   Laarsland   713
22   Yellow_Knight   701
23   Gotland   698
24   BluesInTheBottle   693
25   TotalPackage   633
26   Search   631
27   Josedin   627
28   Vladimir   598
29   Crevaison   596
30   Leadbelly   591
31   Armchair_Cyclist   588
32   Akuryo   570
33   MidnightFright   565
34   LightBing   522
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   463
36   NorthAmericanScum   458
   Collective_Wisdom   923

This seems to be the most volatile of one of these games so far, and the next two stages are not likely to be much more settled.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 09, 2018, 20:19
Stage 15 Lagos de Cowabunga Covadonga

Green points

With one exception, the same bunch of riders as yesterday, but in a different order.

PINOT Thibaut   70   3
YATES Simon   43   3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   40   3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   15   1
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   10   0
MAS NICOLAU Enric   7   10
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   5   17
URAN URAN Rigoberto   3   20
BUCHMANN Emanuel   2   10
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   1   1


1   BicycleBoy   83 (Yates and Lopez)
2   Armchair_Cyclist   77 (Pinot and Mas)
3   Crevaison, Leadbelly   73 (Pinot and Uran)
5   AmisVelo   48 (Yates and Quintana)
6   GPBlanco   47(Lopez and Mas)
7   SemirS   46 (Yates and Uran)
8   Search   40 (Lopez)
9   Koronin   22
10   Axl   17
11   Salvarani   15
12   Hakkie2   14
13   BikeRacer33   12
14   BluesInTheBottle, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, Rote_Laterne, Squire   10
19   Akuryo   9
20   Del1962, Mellow_Velo, Minessa, Paniou, Shalgo   8
25   Laarsland   7
26   Bminchow, Scrool07, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight   5
30   Gotland, Josedin, LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage   3
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   2
36   NorthAmericanScum   0
   Collective_Wisdom   8

Standings

1   BicycleBoy   369
2   Koronin   323
3   AmisVelo   299
4   GPBlanco   262
5   SemirS   218
6   Shalgo   205
7   NorthAmericanScum   198
8   Yellow_Knight   189
9   Search   187
10   Armchair_Cyclist   182
10   TotalPackage   182

Red points

Pinot and Mas pass Uran and Izagirre  (and Pinot passes a couple more to boot), and Lopez and Pinot make progress in the points and mountains classifications.

PINOT Thibaut   148   3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   70   3
MAS NICOLAU Enric   57   10
YATES Simon   46   3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   14   1
DUPONT Hubert   14   2
ZAKARIN Ilnur   14   3
DE TIER Floris   11   1
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   10   1
...
KUSS Sepp   -12   1
MEINTJES Louis   -16   20
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -39   1
URAN URAN Rigoberto   -47   20


(blushes)
1   Armchair_Cyclist   195
2   BicycleBoy   115
3   Crevaison   107
4   GPBlanco   99
5   Leadbelly   88
6   BikeRacer33   52
6   Search   52
8   Akuryo   51
9   Koronin   37
10   Hakkie2   34
11   AmisVelo   25
12   Vladimir   6
13   Axl   3
14   Scrool07   -3
15   SemirS   -7
16   Laarsland   -8
16   Squire   -8
18   Salvarani   -11
19   NorthAmericanScum   -14
20   BluesInTheBottle   -16
21   Carlo_Algatrensig   -25
22   Bminchow   -29
23   Rote_Laterne   -39
24   Nathanptz   -46
25   Josedin   -47
25   LightBing   -47
27   Minessa   -48
28   Paniou   -50
29   Yellow_Knight   -56
30   Mellow_Velo   -60
31   Gotland   -63
32   Del1962   -66
33   MidnightFright   -73
33   Shalgo   -73
35   LosBrolin   -79
36   TotalPackage   -81
   Collective_Wisdom   -74

Standings

"Only" second place today, Bicycle Boy stretches the lead from just four points to nearly a hundred.  Koronin nudges Semir off the podium, And Hakkie and GPBlanco are in the top ten.  I am no longer bumping along near the bottom, after a 14 place, leap-of-the-day, move.

1   BicycleBoy   1340
2   AmisVelo   1246
3   Koronin   1083
4   SemirS   1044
5   Axl   1037
6   Salvarani   1024
7   Hakkie2   945
8   Nathanptz   938
9   GPBlanco   928
10   LosBrolin   911
11   Rote_Laterne   899
12   BikeRacer33   870
13   Shalgo   867
14   Scrool07   835
15   Mellow_Velo   831
16   Minessa   805
17   Armchair_Cyclist   783
18   Paniou   756
19   Squire   749
20   Bminchow   734
21   Del1962   711
22   Laarsland   705
23   Crevaison   703
24   Search   683
25   Leadbelly   679
26   BluesInTheBottle   677
27   Yellow_Knight   645
28   Gotland   635
29   Akuryo   621
30   Vladimir   604
31   Josedin   580
32   TotalPackage   552
33   MidnightFright   492
34   LightBing   475
35   NorthAmericanScum   444
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   438
   Collective_Wisdom   849
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 11, 2018, 19:09
Stage 16 Time Trial

Green points
Only one real TT specialist picked, but Quickstep's TT training widened the spread of points a bit.

DENNIS Rohan   70   1
ROSSKOPF Joey   40   0
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan   25   0
YATES Simon   18   3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   15   0
KWIATKOWSKI Michal   10   0
MAS NICOLAU Enric   7   10
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes   5   0
DE PLUS Laurens   3   6
GESCHKE Simon   2   0
ASGREEN Kasper   1   0

1   Yellow_Knight   70
2   AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, SemirS   18
5   GPBlanco   10
6   Akuryo, Armchair_Cyclist, Axl, BikeRacer33, BluesInTheBottle, Hakkie2, Koronin, Salvarani, Squire   7
15   Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, NorthAmericanScum   3

Standings
If you haven't seen your name among the top tens, here is the whole ranking in our minor classification
1   BicycleBoy   387
2   Koronin   330
3   AmisVelo   317
4   GPBlanco   272
5   Yellow_Knight   259
6   SemirS   236
7   Shalgo   205
8   NorthAmericanScum   201
9   Armchair_Cyclist   189
10   Search   187
11   TotalPackage   182
12   Leadbelly   171
12   Salvarani   171
14   Nathanptz   170
15   Crevaison   155
15   Mellow_Velo   155
17   Rote_Laterne   152
18   BikeRacer33   149
19   MidnightFright   132
20   LightBing   126
21   Scrool07   125
22   BluesInTheBottle   124
22   Gotland   124
24   LosBrolin   123
24   Paniou   123
26   Bminchow   116
27   Axl   84
28   Josedin   79
29   Laarsland   77
30   Minessa   75
31   Hakkie2   59
32   Squire   55
33   Del1962   51
34   Vladimir   44
35   Akuryo   32
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   15
   Collective_Wisdom   126

Red points

The less you went for Colombian riders, the better a day you had.

DENNIS Rohan   70   1
MAS NICOLAU Enric   32   10
YATES Simon   20   3
TEUNS Dylan   17   1
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   16   1
DE PLUS Laurens   6   6
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   6   15
...
BUCHMANN Emanuel   -15   10
CONCI Nicola   -15   1
URAN URAN Rigoberto   -15   20
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -50   17
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -60   3

Those who lost out were more picked than the riders who gained today, so most teams are in the red.

1   Yellow_Knight   40 (Dennis, but Buchmann and Uran)
2   Koronin   30 (Mas)
3   Armchair_Cyclist   29 (Mas)
4   Akuryo   21
5   Squire   19
6   BluesInTheBottle   15
7   SemirS   11
8   NorthAmericanScum   8
9   Josedin   -1
10   Leadbelly   -4
11   Gotland   -9
12   Carlo_Algatrensig   -11
13   BikeRacer33   -14
14   Crevaison   -16
14   LightBing   -16
16   MidnightFright   -17
16   TotalPackage   -17
18   GPBlanco   -26
19   Hakkie2   -29
20   AmisVelo   -32
21   BicycleBoy   -35
21   Salvarani   -35
23   Axl   -45
24   Bminchow   -48
25   Scrool07   -52
26   Vladimir   -54
27   Search   -56
28   Minessa   -59
28   Nathanptz   -59
28   Paniou   -59
31   Del1962   -67
31   Mellow_Velo   -67
33   Shalgo   -69
34   Laarsland   -74
35   LosBrolin   -76
36   Rote_Laterne   -84
   Collective_Wisdom   -61

Standings

Time trials are often more significant for the difference in time gaps than the changes in GC position.  Similarly, there was a fairly wide range of scoring in our table, but few changes.  GPBlanco is the highest placed team to have risen, although only by 1 place, and Bike Racer makes the top ten.  Blues in the Bottle has a 6 place jump.

1   BicycleBoy   1305
2   AmisVelo   1214
3   Koronin   1113
4   SemirS   1055
5   Axl   992
6   Salvarani   989
7   Hakkie2   916
8   GPBlanco   902
9   Nathanptz   879
10   BikeRacer33   856
11   LosBrolin   835
12   Rote_Laterne   815
13   Armchair_Cyclist   812
14   Shalgo   798
15   Scrool07   783
16   Squire   768
17   Mellow_Velo   764
18   Minessa   746
19   Paniou   697
20   BluesInTheBottle   692
21   Crevaison   687
22   Bminchow   686
23   Yellow_Knight   685
24   Leadbelly   675
25   Del1962   644
26   Akuryo   642
27   Laarsland   631
28   Search   627
29   Gotland   626
30   Josedin   579
31   Vladimir   550
32   TotalPackage   535
33   MidnightFright   475
34   LightBing   459
35   NorthAmericanScum   452
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   427
   Collective_Wisdom   788

So back to the battle against gravity for most of the rest of the week.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 12, 2018, 00:23
The current leader, Bicycle Boy, was bottom of the popularity ranking table (de la Cruz is the only member of his team on more than three teams), and the team in third was third from bottom in popularity (only Meintjes from Koronin's team is in the Collective Wisdom team).

Ironically, the team between those two in the popularity stakes, second from bottom there, is second from bottom here, so an idiosyncratic selection is no guarantee of success.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 12, 2018, 20:01
Stage 17 Balcón de Bizkaia

Green points

The break has it again, but not without some former GC hopefuls who had been picked.

WOODS Michael   70   0
TEUNS Dylan   40   1
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   25   15
YATES Simon   18   3
MAJKA Rafal   15   0
ZAKARIN Ilnur   10   3
DE MARCHI Alessandro   7   2
GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul   5   0
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   3   0
HINDLEY Jai   2   0
NIBALI Vincenzo   1   0

1   BicycleBoy, SemirS   43 (de la Cruz and Yates)
3   Nathanptz   40 (Teuns)
4   Carlo_Algatrensig   35 (de la Cruz and Zakarin)
5   twelve more de la Cruz teams   25
17   AmisVelo   18
18   Crevaison, Vladimir   10
20   GPBlanco, Koronin   7

Standings

1   BicycleBoy   430
2   Koronin   337
3   AmisVelo   335
4   GPBlanco   279
4   SemirS   279
6   Yellow_Knight   259
7   NorthAmericanScum   226
8   Search   212
9   Nathanptz   210
10   Shalgo   205

At the other end of the table, Carlo Algatrensig more than trippled the total green point haul he had from the preceding 16 stages.


Red points

The final hill brought about some significant top 6 changes, particularly good for Mas and Lopez teams, but a hit to those with Quintana, Aru or Pinot.

MAS NICOLAU Enric   75   10
TEUNS Dylan   61   1
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   50   3
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   45   15
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   24   1
ZAKARIN Ilnur   20   3
YATES Simon   18   3
URAN URAN Rigoberto   15   20
...
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   -14   2
DENNIS Rohan   -15   1
PADUN Mark   -15   3
ARU Fabio   -22   20
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel   -30   1
PINOT Thibaut   -41   3
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -50   17


1   GPBlanco   119 (Mas and Lopez)
2   BicycleBoy   108 (Lopez, de la Cruz and Yates)
3   Squire   101 (Mas, de la Cruz, Uran, but Aru)
4   Search   94
5   Akuryo   93
6   SemirS   78
7   Koronin   77
8   Axl   74
9   BikeRacer33   64
10   BluesInTheBottle   62
11   Carlo_Algatrensig   42
11   Hakkie2   42
13   NorthAmericanScum   39
14   Gotland   38
15   Nathanptz   17
16   Armchair_Cyclist   14
17   Minessa   10
17   Paniou   10
19   Leadbelly   1
20   Salvarani   -3
21   TotalPackage   -7
22   LightBing   -12
23   MidnightFright   -13
24   Josedin   -19
25   Yellow_Knight   -22
26   Crevaison   -28
27   AmisVelo   -32
28   Bminchow   -39
29   Mellow_Velo   -41
30   Rote_Laterne   -46
31   LosBrolin   -61
32   Del1962   -63
32   Shalgo   -63
34   Vladimir   -64
35   Laarsland   -75
36   Scrool07   -122
   Collective_Wisdom   -18

Standings
All three Yates teams had him combined with a different Colombian contender.  Now that Lopez is looking confidently the strongest of those, Bicycle Boy's lead is looking pretty secure.  Koronin is up to second, with the Spanish proportion of the GC podium. Akuryo pulls out a 9 place rise.
1   BicycleBoy   1413
2   Koronin   1190
3   AmisVelo   1182
4   SemirS   1133
5   Axl   1066
6   GPBlanco   1021
7   Salvarani   986
8   Hakkie2   958
9   BikeRacer33   920
10   Nathanptz   896
11   Squire   869
12   Armchair_Cyclist   826
13   LosBrolin   774
14   Rote_Laterne   769
15   Minessa   756
16   BluesInTheBottle   754
17   Akuryo   735
17   Shalgo   735
19   Mellow_Velo   723
20   Search   721
21   Paniou   707
22   Leadbelly   676
23   Gotland   664
24   Yellow_Knight   663
25   Scrool07   661
26   Crevaison   659
27   Bminchow   647
28   Del1962   581
29   Josedin   560
30   Laarsland   556
31   TotalPackage   528
32   NorthAmericanScum   491
33   Vladimir   486
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   469
35   MidnightFright   462
36   LightBing   447
   Collective_Wisdom   770

Tomorrow should be fairly neutral.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 13, 2018, 20:51
Stage 18  A thwarted sprint in Lleida

Green points

Our popular, not too expensive, sprinters made the points, but only just.

WALLAYS Jelle   70   0
BYSTRØM Sven Erik   40   0
SAGAN Peter   25   0
YATES Simon   18   3
VIVIANI Elia   15   0
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   10   2
VAN POPPEL Danny   7   2
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   5   2
VAN ASBROECK Tom   3   2
NIZZOLO Giacomo   2   14
GIBBONS Ryan   1   11

1   AmisVelo   21 (Yates, Nizzolo and Gibbons)
2   SemirS   19 (Yates and Gibbons)
3   BicycleBoy   18
4   BikeRacer33, NorthAmericanScum   12
6   Rote_Laterne, Shalgo   10
8   Josedin   6
9   Bminchow, Crevaison, Gotland, Mellow_Velo, Search, Vladimir   3
15   Armchair_Cyclist, BluesInTheBottle, MidnightFright, Paniou, Salvarani, Scrool07, TotalPackage   2
22   Del1962, Laarsland, Minessa   1

Standings

1   BicycleBoy   448
2   AmisVelo   356
3   Koronin   337
4   SemirS   298
5   GPBlanco   279
6   Yellow_Knight   259
7   NorthAmericanScum   238
8   Search   215
8   Shalgo   215
10   Nathanptz   210

Red points
Pernsteiner's non-start made more difference than any time on the road. A few changes in the sprints classification, but not much happening.

YATES Simon   16   3
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   10   2
VAN POPPEL Danny   9   2
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   5   2
VAN ASBROECK Tom   3   2
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   3   1
...
DUPONT Hubert   -2   2
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -5   3
TEUNS Dylan   -13   1


For what it's worth:
1   AmisVelo   22
2   NorthAmericanScum   17
2   SemirS   17
4   Shalgo   13
5   BicycleBoy   12
5   BikeRacer33   12
7   Rote_Laterne   9
8   Vladimir   8
9   Josedin   6
10   Scrool07   5
10   TotalPackage   5
12   Bminchow   4
12   Carlo_Algatrensig   4
12   Crevaison   4
12   Mellow_Velo   4
16   BluesInTheBottle   3
16   Gotland   3
16   LosBrolin   3
16   MidnightFright   3
16   Salvarani   3
21   Armchair_Cyclist   2
21   Axl   2
21   Del1962   2
21   Paniou   2
25   Hakkie2   1
25   Laarsland   1
25   LightBing   1
25   Minessa   1
29   Koronin   0
29   Yellow_Knight   0
31   Akuryo   -1
31   Leadbelly   -1
31   Search   -1
31   Squire   -1
35   GPBlanco   -5
36   Nathanptz   -14
   Collective_Wisdom   4


Standings

Despite the meagre sprinkling of points, five teams moved up a place, Blues in the Bottle, Crevaison, Scrool, Rote Laterne, and, moving back into 2nd place, Amis Velo.

1   BicycleBoy   1425
2   AmisVelo   1204
3   Koronin   1190
4   SemirS   1150
5   Axl   1068
6   GPBlanco   1016
7   Salvarani   989
8   Hakkie2   959
9   BikeRacer33   932
10   Nathanptz   882
11   Squire   868
12   Armchair_Cyclist   828
13   Rote_Laterne   778
14   LosBrolin   777
15   BluesInTheBottle   757
15   Minessa   757
17   Shalgo   748
18   Akuryo   734
19   Mellow_Velo   727
20   Search   720
21   Paniou   709
22   Leadbelly   675
23   Gotland   667
24   Scrool07   666
25   Crevaison   663
25   Yellow_Knight   663
27   Bminchow   651
28   Del1962   583
29   Josedin   566
30   Laarsland   557
31   TotalPackage   533
32   NorthAmericanScum   508
33   Vladimir   494
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   473
35   MidnightFright   465
36   LightBing   448
   Collective_Wisdom   774


Proper competition to resume tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 14, 2018, 18:25
Stage 19 Volta a Andorra stage 1, to Rabassa

Green points
If your expensive GC picks scored well today, they have probably done well overall.
If not, you probably stopped reading these updates by the end of week one.

PINOT Thibaut   70   3
YATES Simon   58   3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   25   0
URAN URAN Rigoberto   15   20
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   10   3
MAS NICOLAU Enric   7   10
KELDERMAN Wilco   5   3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   3   1
GALLOPIN Tony   2   0
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   1   17

1   Crevaison, Leadbelly   85 (Pinot and Uran)
3   Armchair_Cyclist   77 (Pinot and Mas)
4   SemirS   73 (Yates and Uran)
5   BicycleBoy   68 (Yates and Lopez)
6   AmisVelo   59 (Yates and Quintana)
7   Axl, Salvarani   23
9   BluesInTheBottle, Squire   22
11   Mellow_Velo, Minessa   21
13   Gotland   20
14   GPBlanco   17
15   Del1962, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, Paniou, Rote_Laterne, Shalgo   16
21   LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight   15
25   Koronin, Search   10
27   BikeRacer33, Hakkie2   8
29   Akuryo   7
30   Bminchow, Laarsland, Scrool07, Vladimir   1
34   Carlo_Algatrensig, Josedin, NorthAmericanScum   0
   Collective_Wisdom   16

Standings
The accumulation of red jersey points finally get the Yates teams to monopolise the podium.
1   BicycleBoy   516
2   AmisVelo   415
3   SemirS   371
4   Koronin   347
5   GPBlanco   296
6   Leadbelly   281
7   Yellow_Knight   274
8   Armchair_Cyclist   268
9   Crevaison   253
10   NorthAmericanScum   238



It might not be quite the final shakedown, but those two separate groups going up the final mountain make a difference today, with KoM and Points classification implications as well as GC.

PINOT Thibaut   122   3
YATES Simon   70   3
URAN URAN Rigoberto   15   20
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   13   1
ZAKARIN Ilnur   6   3
DE TIER Floris   6   1
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   6   3
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   6   2
KELDERMAN Wilco   5   3
...
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -19   3
DE PLUS Laurens   -25   6
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -26   15
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -40   1
MAS NICOLAU Enric   -43   10

1   Crevaison   139
2   Armchair_Cyclist   86
2   Leadbelly   86
4   AmisVelo   76
5   SemirS   59
6   BicycleBoy   23
7   Mellow_Velo   22
8   TotalPackage   16
9   Del1962   13
10   MidnightFright   12
10   Rote_Laterne   12
12   Shalgo   11
12   Yellow_Knight   11
14   Vladimir   10
15   LightBing   9
16   Scrool07   0
17   Nathanptz   -2
18   Minessa   -5
19   LosBrolin   -7
20   Gotland   -10
20   Paniou   -10
22   Carlo_Algatrensig   -16
23   Laarsland   -28
24   Salvarani   -30
25   BluesInTheBottle   -31
26   Bminchow   -32
27   Koronin   -38
28   Search   -43
29   NorthAmericanScum   -44
30   Josedin   -48
31   Axl   -54
32   Squire   -57
33   Hakkie2   -71
34   BikeRacer33   -72
35   Akuryo   -73
36   GPBlanco   -90
   Collective_Wisdom   -13

Standings

Koronin is bumped off the podium by Semir, as the Yates teams take control. Salvarani moves up one, and Armchair Cyclist makes a late entry into the top ten (I recall last place at the end of week one).  Crevaison has, by a large margin, the biggest jump of the day with 12 places.

1   BicycleBoy   1448
2   AmisVelo   1280
3   SemirS   1209
4   Koronin   1152
5   Axl   1014
6   Salvarani   959
7   GPBlanco   926
8   Armchair_Cyclist   914
9   Hakkie2   888
10   Nathanptz   880
11   BikeRacer33   860
12   Squire   811
13   Crevaison   802
14   Rote_Laterne   790
15   LosBrolin   770
16   Leadbelly   761
17   Shalgo   759
18   Minessa   752
19   Mellow_Velo   749
20   BluesInTheBottle   726
21   Paniou   699
22   Search   677
23   Yellow_Knight   674
24   Scrool07   666
25   Akuryo   661
26   Gotland   657
27   Bminchow   619
28   Del1962   596
29   TotalPackage   549
30   Laarsland   529
31   Josedin   518
32   Vladimir   504
33   MidnightFright   477
34   NorthAmericanScum   464
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   457
35   LightBing   457
   Collective_Wisdom   761

All or nothing tomorrow, but there was no evidence today that Uran or Quintana will take enough points relative to to Lopez for Amis Velo or Semir to catch Bicycle Boy.  Unless something really extraordinary happens.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 15, 2018, 23:11
Stage 20 Not much left to decide after the Collada de la Gallina

Green points

Nearly the same set of riders as yesterday, but in a slightly different order.
MAS NICOLAU Enric   70   10
YATES Simon   43   3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   40   3
PINOT Thibaut   15   3
URAN URAN Rigoberto   10   20
KELDERMAN Wilco   7   3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   5   0
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   3   15
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   2   17
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   1   1

1   GPBlanco   110 (Lopez and Mas)
2   BicycleBoy   86 (Yates, Lopez and de la Cruz)
3   Armchair_Cyclist, Axl   85 (Mas and Pinot/Uran, de la Cruz and Quintana)
5   Squire   83
6   Salvarani   82
7   BluesInTheBottle   80
8   BikeRacer33, Hakkie2   75
10   Akuryo   73
11   Koronin   71
12   SemirS   56
13   AmisVelo   45
14   Search   43
15   Leadbelly   28
16   Crevaison   25
17   Minessa   22
18   Gotland   20
19   Mellow_Velo   19
20   Paniou   15
21   Del1962, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, Rote_Laterne   12
21   Shalgo   12
26   LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight   10
30   Bminchow   5
31   Carlo_Algatrensig, NorthAmericanScum   3
33   Laarsland, Scrool07, Vladimir   2
36   Josedin   0
   Collective_Wisdom   15


Standings
1   BicycleBoy   602
2   AmisVelo   460
3   SemirS   427
4   Koronin   418
5   GPBlanco   406
6   Armchair_Cyclist   353
7   Leadbelly   309
8   Yellow_Knight   284
9   Crevaison   278
9   Salvarani   278

Well, if the top 4 tomorrow were to be Nizzolo, Gibbons, Meintjes and Geoghegan Hart, Amis Velo could snatch it, but...

Red points
All change on the podium, and not a day to have chosen Movistar riders.

MAS NICOLAU Enric   182   10
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   137   3
YATES Simon   70   3
PINOT Thibaut   38   3
URAN URAN Rigoberto   36   20
KELDERMAN Wilco   30   3
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   15   15
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   10   1
...
DE TIER Floris   -12   1
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   -12   2
ARU Fabio   -12   20
BENNETT George   -14   8
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel   -15   1
TEUNS Dylan   -26   1
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -48   17
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -134   1


1   GPBlanco   301 (Mas and Lopez, but Bennett)
2   BicycleBoy   224 (Lopez, Yates and de la Cruz)
3   Squire   213 (Mas, Uran and de la Cruz, but Bennett and Aru)
4   Armchair_Cyclist   205 (Mas and Pinot, but Brambilla)
5   BluesInTheBottle   203 (Mas and Uran, but Aru)
6   Axl   176
7   Akuryo   173
8   Salvarani   155
9   Search   138
10   BikeRacer33   135
11   Hakkie2   126
12   SemirS   121
13   Leadbelly   89
14   Gotland   69
15   Crevaison   66
16   Koronin   45
17   Minessa   33
18   LightBing   26
19   TotalPackage   23
20   AmisVelo   21
20   MidnightFright   21
22   NorthAmericanScum   18
23   Yellow_Knight   16
24   Mellow_Velo   15
25   Paniou   3
26   Carlo_Algatrensig   -3
27   Del1962   -27
27   Shalgo   -27
29   Josedin   -34
29   LosBrolin   -34
31   Rote_Laterne   -38
32   Nathanptz   -40
33   Bminchow   -62
34   Vladimir   -64
35   Laarsland   -68
36   Scrool07   -96
   Collective_Wisdom   -12

Standings
Quintana's accompaniment of Valverde's final limp to the line, and thereby being passed on the road and in GC by Uran, puts SemirS into second place, which is quite an achievement as he had wasted 1/4 of his budget on Porte.  GPBlanco has the two young guns on the podium, and the protagonists of today's stage, so gets the prime place behind the Yates teams. His 3 place jump is matched by Squire, getting into the top ten, but outdone by Search, Blues in the Bottle, and above all by Akuryo, whose 9 position improvement is the best of the day.
But our leader stretches out his lead yet again, and seems about as unlikely to yield as Simon Yates.

1   BicycleBoy   1672
2   SemirS   1330
3   AmisVelo   1301
4   GPBlanco   1227
5   Koronin   1197
6   Axl   1190
7   Armchair_Cyclist   1119
8   Salvarani   1114
9   Squire   1024
10   Hakkie2   1014
11   BikeRacer33   995
12   BluesInTheBottle   929
13   Crevaison   868
14   Leadbelly   850
15   Nathanptz   840
16   Akuryo   834
17   Search   815
18   Minessa   785
19   Mellow_Velo   764
20   Rote_Laterne   752
21   LosBrolin   736
22   Shalgo   732
23   Gotland   726
24   Paniou   702
25   Yellow_Knight   690
26   TotalPackage   572
27   Scrool07   570
28   Del1962   569
29   Bminchow   557
30   MidnightFright   498
31   Josedin   484
32   LightBing   483
33   NorthAmericanScum   482
34   Laarsland   461
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   454
36   Vladimir   440
   Collective_Wisdom   749

Tomorrow will probably see a few points lost in the points competition by teams with Yates, Lopez, Pinot and Teuns, plus a few sprinter points, although the favourites are unpicked.

But unless someone very significant fails to finish, or has a serious issue just before the 3km marker, there shouldn't be much change tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 16, 2018, 19:53
Stage 21 Los Campos Elisianos

Green points

Final contributions (no red jersey bonus today)

VIVIANI Elia   70   0
SAGAN Peter   40   0
NIZZOLO Giacomo   25   14
VAN POPPEL Danny   15   2
SARREAU Marc   10   0
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   7   2
CONSONNI Simone   5   0
TRENTIN Matteo   3   1
VAN ASBROECK Tom   2   2
GIBBONS Ryan   1   11

Final gains

1   Shalgo   41 (Nizzolo, Van Poppel and Gibbons)
2   AmisVelo, Bminchow, Gotland, Mellow_Velo, Search   26
7   Armchair_Cyclist, BikeRacer33, BluesInTheBottle, MidnightFright, Paniou, Salvarani, Scrool07, TotalPackage   25
15   NorthAmericanScum   22
16   Josedin   8
17   LightBing   3
18   Crevaison, Vladimir   2
20   Del1962,    Laarsland, Minessa, SemirS   1

Final standings

1   BicycleBoy   602
2   AmisVelo   486
3   SemirS   428
4   Koronin   418
5   GPBlanco   406
6   Armchair_Cyclist   378
7   Leadbelly   309
8   Salvarani   303
9   BikeRacer33   294
9   Search   294
11   Shalgo   284
11   Yellow_Knight   284
13   Crevaison   280
14   NorthAmericanScum   263
15   BluesInTheBottle   253
16   Nathanptz   238
17   TotalPackage   234
18   Mellow_Velo   224
19   Gotland   218
20   Axl   217
21   Paniou   206
22   Rote_Laterne   190
23   Squire   185
24   MidnightFright   184
25   Bminchow   176
26   Hakkie2   167
27   Scrool07   155
28   LightBing   154
29   LosBrolin   151
30   Minessa   145
31   Akuryo   137
32   Josedin   93
33   Laarsland   82
34   Del1962   81
35   Vladimir   62
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   53
   Collective_Wisdom   211

Even without the 180 red jersey points accumulated by Yates, Bicycle Boy would have held off Koronin, by just 4 points.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 16, 2018, 21:12
The final reckoning

Apart from the sprint points, there are tiny GC changes way down the list, and more significant sprint classification changes.

NIZZOLO Giacomo   26   14
VAN POPPEL Danny   17   2
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   7   2
TRENTIN Matteo   3   1
VAN ASBROECK Tom   2   2
GIBBONS Ryan   1   11
MONFORT Maxime   1   3
DE TIER Floris   1   1
...
URAN URAN Rigoberto   -1   20
MAS NICOLAU Enric   -2   10
TEUNS Dylan   -2   1
PINOT Thibaut   -3   3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -15   3
YATES Simon   -25   3

1   Shalgo   43
2   Bminchow   27
3   Gotland   26
3   Mellow_Velo   26
3   Scrool07   26
6   MidnightFright   25
6   Paniou   25
6   TotalPackage   25
9   BikeRacer33   24
9   NorthAmericanScum   24
11   BluesInTheBottle   23
11   Salvarani   23
13   Armchair_Cyclist   21
14   Search   12
15   Josedin   8
16   LightBing   3
16   Vladimir   3
18   AmisVelo   2
19   Laarsland   1
20   Carlo_Algatrensig   0
20   Del1962   0
20   Minessa   0
23   LosBrolin   -1
23   Rote_Laterne   -1
23   Yellow_Knight   -1
26   Akuryo   -2
26   Axl   -2
26   Crevaison   -2
26   Hakkie2   -2
26   Koronin   -2
31   Nathanptz   -3
31   Squire   -3
33   Leadbelly   -4
34   GPBlanco   -17
35   SemirS   -25
36   BicycleBoy   -39
   Collective_Wisdom   26

Final standings

Not many points, so not much change.  BikeRider gets a cheeky last gasp bump up into the top ten as the highest change in the table, and Shalgo, Gotland and NAS each manage to improve their final standings bu two points.

Despite being second worst scorer on the day, SemirS holds off Amis Velo's late attempt to gain second place, akin to Mas diving into that last corner in Andorra yesterday for 2nd place.

But it would have taken a lot worse than merely being last on the day to have deprived Bicycle Boy of the lead that he has held since stage 14, and I suspect 300 points plus as a winning margin may not have been done before.  A brave selection, as evidenced by his lowest position on the popularity table, but a very successful one.

1   BicycleBoy   1633
2   SemirS   1305
3   AmisVelo   1303
4   GPBlanco   1210
5   Koronin   1195
6   Axl   1188
7   Armchair_Cyclist   1140
8   Salvarani   1137
9   Squire   1021
10   BikeRacer33   1019
11   Hakkie2   1012
12   BluesInTheBottle   952
13   Crevaison   866
14   Leadbelly   846
15   Nathanptz   837
16   Akuryo   832
17   Search   827
18   Mellow_Velo   790
19   Minessa   785
20   Shalgo   775
21   Gotland   752
22   Rote_Laterne   751
23   LosBrolin   735
24   Paniou   727
25   Yellow_Knight   689
26   TotalPackage   597
27   Scrool07   596
28   Bminchow   584
29   Del1962   569
30   MidnightFright   523
31   NorthAmericanScum   506
32   Josedin   492
33   LightBing   486
34   Laarsland   462
35   Carlo_Algatrensig   454
36   Vladimir   443
   Collective_Wisdom   775


Well done to Bicycle Boy, congratulations also to Semir and Amis Velo for getting the key pick that put them on the odium, to GPBlanco for doing best of the non-Yates teams, and thanks to everyone for having a go.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: GP Blanco on September 16, 2018, 21:39
Great to finish fourth in this game.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 17, 2018, 07:59
 I'm happy with my top ten here, partly because I was dead last after stage 13, partly because it was achieved despite wasted points on Porte, and partly for reasons that will become clear when I put up a few more numbers from the spreadsheet tonight.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 17, 2018, 18:20
Top Green points

1   YATES Simon   350pts   3 teams (incl 180 red jersey pts)
2   VIVIANI Elia   250   0
3   SAGAN Peter   212   0
4   VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   209   1
5   PINOT Thibaut   172   3
6   DENNIS Rohan   158   1 (incl 18 red jersey)
7   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   149   3
8   KWIATKOWSKI Michal   144   0 (54 red jersey)
9   KING Benjamin   141   0
10   TEUNS Dylan   115   1
11   DE MARCHI Alessandro   109   2
12   NIZZOLO Giacomo   102   14
13   VAN POPPEL Danny   101   2
14   MAS NICOLAU Enric   99   10
15   BOUHANNI Nacer   85   2
16   MOLLEMA Bauke   80   0
17   GALLOPIN Tony   79   0
17   MOLARD Rudy   79   0 (72 red jersey)
19   WALLAYS Jelle   77   0
20   WOODS Michael   70   0
20   CLARKE Simon   70   0
20   GENIEZ Alexandre   70   1
20   RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   70   3

Red points earned

YATES Simon   872pts   3 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   519   1
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   484   3
MAS NICOLAU Enric   474   10
PINOT Thibaut   399   3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   331   0
VIVIANI Elia   290   0
SAGAN Peter   267   0
URAN URAN Rigoberto   236   20
KING Benjamin   212   0
GALLOPIN Tony   199   0
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   195   17
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   178   1
MOLARD Rudy   175   0
KELDERMAN Wilco   172   3
KWIATKOWSKI Michal   168   0
MOLLEMA Bauke   164   0
MAJKA Rafal   164   0
DENNIS Rohan   158   1
TEUNS Dylan   158   1
DE MARCHI Alessandro   124   2
BUCHMANN Emanuel   121   10
NIZZOLO Giacomo   118   14
VAN POPPEL Danny   118   2
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   118   15
WOODS Michael   108   0
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   108   0
WALLAYS Jelle   92   0
CLARKE Simon   90   0
BRAMBILLA Gianluca   89   2
DE GENDT Thomas   87   0
BOUHANNI Nacer   85   2
GENIEZ Alexandre   85   1
RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   85   3
ZAKARIN Ilnur   81   3
BIZKARRA ETXEGIBEL Mikel   78   0
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   74   0
HAIG Jack   70   0
FORMOLO Davide   67   0
ARU Fabio   59   20
BYSTRØM Sven Erik   55   0
ROSSKOPF Joey   55   0
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan   55   1
STALNOV Nikita   55   0
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel   55   1
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   54   2
DUPONT Hubert   52   2
VAN BAARLE Dylan   50   0
CAMPENAERTS Victor   50   1
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   50   0
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   50   1


Percentage return

RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   607%   3
CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge   300   3
DELAGE Mickaël   300   3
KING Benjamin   275   0
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   208   2
MAS NICOLAU Enric   103   10
CHETOUT Loïc   100   1
WALLAYS Jelle   93   0
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan   87   1
BYSTRØM Sven Erik   83   0
STALNOV Nikita   77   0
DE MARCHI Alessandro   73   2
CABEDO CARDA Oscar   69   2
GASTAUER Ben   65   0
SOTO MARTINEZ Nelson Andres   64   0
YATES Simon   62   3
CLARKE Simon   52   0


Impeccable picks
YATES Simon
MAS NICOLAU Enric
KING Benjamin
RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar
CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge/DELAGE Mickaël



Best possible team
(almost certainly to be improved upon by Hakkie)

rider/cost/points won
YATES Simon   1413   872
MAS NICOLAU Enric   458   474
URAN URAN Rigoberto   663   236
KING Benjamin   77   212
TEUNS Dylan   578   158
DE MARCHI Alessandro   169   124
WALLAYS Jelle   99   92
RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   14   85
Total 2253, for a cost of 3471


The expensive mistakes
TRENTIN Matteo   1 team, 1285 spent, 32 earned
MARTIN Daniel   1 team 870 spent, 0 earned
PORTE Richie   10 teams 847 spent, 15 earned  (but didn't stop Semir making 2nd place)


The winning selection

rider/cost/points won
YATES Simon   1413   872
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   1441   484
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   454   118
RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   14   85
MONFORT Maxime   75   29
ROSSETTO Stéphane   85   15
CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge   5   15
DELAGE Mickaël   5   15

The most popular picks

Those picked at least 10 times
MAS NICOLAU Enric   458   474
URAN URAN Rigoberto   663   236
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   994   195
BUCHMANN Emanuel   543   121
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   454   118
NIZZOLO Giacomo   331   118
ARU Fabio   613   59
GIBBONS Ryan   77   19
MEINTJES Louis   240   15
PORTE Richie   847   15

All the numbers you could want (https://www.dropbox.com/s/firjvtq3htdbiaf/2018%20Vuelta%20CQ%20game.xlsx?dl=0) on the spreadsheet that did all the work.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 17, 2018, 20:51
The Four Seasons Championship

The pizza for the top cumulative score in the 3 GTs and the Spring Classics

Spring Classics Giro Tour Vuelta TOTAL
1      Armchair_Cyclist      2277      1004      1731      1140      6152
2      Rote_Laterne      1966      1885      771      751      5373
3      Hakkie2      2307      1081      800      1012      5200
4      LosBrolin      2023      1168      1168      735      5094
5      Nathanptz      2274      1132      812      837      5055
6      AmisVelo      2017      1154      504      1303      4978
7      GPBlanco      1809      882      1010      1210      4911
8      SemirS      1028      908      1572      1305      4813
9      Squire      1507      1005      1061      1021      4594
10      Laarsland      1993      1007      1027      462      4489
11      Leadbelly      1695      725      1062      846      4328
12      BluesInTheBottle      1901      794      602      952      4249
13      Mellow_Velo      1673      1066      699      790      4228
14      Shalgo      1695      695      983      775      4148
15      Vladimir      1462      1152      966      443      4023
16      Salvarani      1087      637      922      1137      3783
17      Search      1211      679      1025      827      3742
18      Del1962      1349      954      708      569      3580
                                    
      Collective_Wisdom      2119      934      1000      775      4828

In the early stages of the Vuelta, Los Brolin, Nathanptz and Rote Laterne all headed this table at some point,  and I had thought that having Porte in my team would scupper my hopes.  But as Mas moved up the rankings, and Pinot started winning stages and getting higher on GC, I ended up stretching the lead I had before this fourth leg.

Thanks especially to this bunch who have been loyal entrants in all the games this year.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 17, 2018, 21:06
Yep, Hakkie found a better team than my thoughts as to what was best, and had it up at CN before I even posted mine. 

YATES Simon   1413   872
MAS NICOLAU Enric   458   474
PINOT Thibaut   916   399
KING Benjamin   77   212
DE MARCHI Alessandro   169   124
NIZZOLO Giacomo   331   118
WALLAYS Jelle   99   92
RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   14   85
(replacing Uran and Teuns, from my attempt, with Pinot and Nizzolo) for 2376, at a cost of 3477


This ritual humiliation four times a year is my reward for the games   :P
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 17, 2018, 21:20
I notice that Bicycle Boy picked the Vuelta winner last year too, one of only teams to do so, but ended up 5th, largely because everyone above him had Lopez.  This time he had the race winner and Lopez.
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: Leadbelly on September 18, 2018, 08:26
Congratulations to BicycleBoy and to you Armchair! :cool
Title: Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on September 23, 2018, 13:10
Congratulations to BicycleBoy and to you Armchair! :cool

I second that, looking forward to the 2019 games  :cool