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Title: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 20, 2019, 15:35
Two sunny days in a row, so we must be getting near to the northern European spring, and closer to this game.

You need:-
* to name 12 riders (male) who had a total between them of not more than 3000 CQ points earned in 2018;
* to send me this list by PM, here or at CN, with the riders names in CQ format;
* to do this before the start of the Omloop Het Nieuwsblat Men's race on Saturday 2nd March;
* to hope that your selected dozen do well in the European one day races of category HC or above in March, April and the first weekend of May.


I need:-
* to put up a spreadsheet to check your team (done here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i2p96qeygw63y8a/2019%20classics%20cq%20game%20selector.xls?dl=0));
* to check your teams and tell you if there is a problem (unless you leave it to the last morning to submit it, in which case you might end up one man short, or worse);
* to send my team to the first manager to submit their team (by the end of Thursday, but I haven't started thinking about it yet);
* to keep the list of entries reasonably up to date so that you know your entry has been received.  If 48 hours pass without your name appearing here, nudge me;
* to collate  points as awarded by CQ (https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rules.asp) for those races, hopefully on the evening of the day on which they occur;
* to make up any other rules on the fly.

The races:
1      02/03/2019      Omloop Het Nieuwsblad      1.WT3
2      03/03/2019      Kuurne - Brussel - Kuurne      1.HC
3      09/03/2019      Strade Bianche      1.WT3
4      10/03/2019      GP Industria & Artigianato - Larciano      1.HC
5      17/03/2019      Ronde van Drenthe      1.HC
6      20/03/2019      Nokere Koerse      1.HC
7      22/03/2019      Bredene Koksijde Classic (formerly Handzame Classic)      1.HC
8      23/03/2019      Milano - Sanremo      1.WT1
9      24/03/2019      GP de Denain - Porte du Hainaut      1.HC
10      27/03/2019      Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde      1.WT3 (upgraded from last year)
11      29/03/2019      E3 Harelbeke      1.WT2
12      31/03/2019      Gent - Wevelgem      1.WT2
13      03/04/2019      Dwars door Vlaanderen      1.WT3
14      07/04/2019      Ronde van Vlaanderen      1.WT1
15      10/04/2019      Scheldeprijs      1.HC
16      14/04/2019      Paris - Roubaix      1.WT1
17      17/04/2019      Brabantse Pijl      1.HC
18      21/04/2019      Amstel Gold Race      1.WT2
19      24/04/2019      Flèche Wallonne      1.WT2
20      28/04/2019      Liège - Bastogne - Liège      1.WT1
21      01/05/2019      Rund um den Finanzplatz Eschborn - Frankfurt      1.WT3 New entry

Entries to Friday morning (about 13 hours to go)
AmisVelo
Armchair
BlackBandit222
Blues_in_the_Bottle
Bminchow
Chiron
Comodoro
Del1962
Flo
GPBlanco
JustSomeGuy
Kazistuta
Laarsland
Leadbelly
LightBing
LosBrolin
Madrazo
MellowVelo
NorthAmericanScum
Otoxiep87
PremierAndrew
RoteLaterne
Safebet
Salvarani
Scrool07
Search
SemirS
ThePirate81
Triley36
Vladimir
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 20, 2019, 15:52
You will notice that I have added Rund um den Finanzplatz Eschborn - Frankfurt, which becomes the last race of the series and might rebalance the selections a little, leaving something other than the Ardennes puncheurs for the final resolution.  It is in the spring, it is a WT race: I think I had only omitted it in the past because I had a notion of the spring races finishing with Liege. 

With this and the upgrading of De Panne, there are more points available than last year. I haven't included any 1.1s, much as I like Tro-Bro Leon and Le Samyn: they rarely have any WT teams other than those of the host nation, and the expected teams (per PCS) include no more than 3 WT teams in any of them (Ardeche and Drome had 5 last year, but weren't included)

Last year the competition was very close, and really only decided in the last couple of hundred metres of Ans: be part of it, and by all means mention it on other cycling forums if the readers there might be interested.

Later edit: If I had included Eschborn - Frankfurt last year, the final podium, instead of being Madrazo - The Asian - Hakkie, would have been The Asian - Armchair Cyclist - Nathanptz, due to Sean De Bie (already a very successful popular pick in that game) picking up what would have been 70 more points.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on February 23, 2019, 18:24
Thanks for organizing that game year after year. I just submitted my boring but hopefully successful team.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 25, 2019, 18:20
So that those at CN don't get an advantage over those here, there was a request over there for last year's rider scores in these races: they can be found (with the exception of Eschborn-Frankfurt) on the final spreadsheet of last year's edition of this game last year here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjso3rpoipt4y4w/classics%20game%202018.xls?dl=0): you will probably want to look at the Rider Scores page, or the sheet for each race at the end of the workbook.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 26, 2019, 22:48
The first 13 teams have thrown up 68 different riders, 39 of whom are unique picks, and 2 are on more than half of the teams.

11 of them scored 200 or more in these races last year, 30 of them got 20 or fewer.
14 cost 500 pts or more, 16 cost 50 or less.

about 3 1/2 days left to get your team in.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on February 27, 2019, 10:19
Will do a team tonight.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on February 28, 2019, 19:57
Will do a team tonight.

Still missing from the entries list  :( so I can keep dreaming ...  :lol
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 01, 2019, 21:58
Last call: race starts at 11:45 CET (about 13 hours from this post).

31 teams, 113 riders, 59 unique picks, and now a third rider on more than half of the teams.

Scores from last year's races range from 634 to 1654 (I believe 2123 was the best possible), and the popularity scores go from 52 to 148 (the 12 most popular riders come in at 165)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 01, 2019, 22:41
Forgot, sorry. And I’m working in the morning and then picking up my son, so I’m out this year.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: search on March 02, 2019, 07:25
Forgot, sorry. And I’m working in the morning and then picking up my son, so I’m out this year.

:o

that's not acceptable. I did a quick 5 minute team with all of your favorites.

GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
TRENTIN Matteo
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
KÜNG Stefan
MARTIN Tony
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
THEUNS Edward
ROWE Luke
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
BOOM Lars
STALLAERT Joeri
EVENEPOEL Remco

Take this one, if you like
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 10:29
:o

that's not acceptable. I did a quick 5 minute team with all of your favorites.

GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
TRENTIN Matteo
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
KÜNG Stefan
MARTIN Tony
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
THEUNS Edward
ROWE Luke
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
BOOM Lars
STALLAERT Joeri
EVENEPOEL Remco

Take this one, if you like

Good enough for me: you're in, whether you like it or not.  (PM me changes if you want to)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 02, 2019, 13:39
:o

that's not acceptable. I did a quick 5 minute team with all of your favorites.

GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
TRENTIN Matteo
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
KÜNG Stefan
MARTIN Tony
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
THEUNS Edward
ROWE Luke
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
BOOM Lars
STALLAERT Joeri
EVENEPOEL Remco

Take this one, if you like

Nearly! If I make a couple of changes AC - will do now, only just got home,
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: search on March 02, 2019, 13:44
don't dare to touch Ventoso!
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 02, 2019, 14:02
I’d like to swap out

Plackaert
Ventoso
Martin
Evenepoel

And replace with:

Bettiol
Stannard
Jasper P
Vakoc
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 02, 2019, 14:22
That’s one point over so remove Stannard and add MCLAY Daniel
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 14:51
So with the Search/Joelsim selection finalised, we seem to be ready.

35 real teams, and one mathematical calculation.

As usual, teams in alphabetical order, riders in price order, and asterisks for the unique picks

Amis Velo
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   DEVENYNS Dries   *
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   THEUNS Edward   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAKOC Petr
   
Armchair Cyclist
   LUTSENKO Alexey   
   KREUZIGER Roman   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   THEUNS Edward   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAKOC Petr   

BlackBandit222
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   *
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   Durbridge Luke   
   VERMOTE Julien   *
   VANDENBERGH Stijn   
   ROWE Luke   
   KEISSE Iljo   
   DE VREESE Laurens   *
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

Blues in the Bottle
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   VAN DER HOORN Taco   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   THEUNS Edward   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   HOFSTEDE Lennard   *
   SPENGLER Lukas   *
   SELLIER Simon   *
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Bminchow
   VAN AERT Wout   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   DEBUSSCHERE Jens   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   THEUNS Edward   
   STANNARD Ian   
   BARBIER Rudy   
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

Chiron
   VAN AERT WOUT   
   CORT NIELSEN MAGNUS   *
   TRENTIN MATTEO   
   VAN DER POEL MATHIEU   
   PHILIPSEN JASPER   
   HALVORSEN KRISTOFFER   
   WAEYTENS ZICO   
   BETTIOL ALBERTO   
   BOECKMANS KRIS   *
   BOOM LARS   
   EVENEPOEL REMCO   
   VAKOC PETR   

Comodoro
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VANENDERT Jelle   
   VAN DER HOORN Taco   
   HAIG Jack   *
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   GAUDU David   *
   THEUNS Edward   
   HOFLAND Moreno   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   ROWE Luke   
   BOOM Lars   
   DE KLEIJN Arvid   *

Del 1962
   BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   *
   LUTSENKO Alexey   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   THEUNS Edward   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   ROWE Luke   
   LIETAER Eliot   *
   BOOM Lars   
   STALLAERT Joeri   
   EISEL Bernhard   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Flo
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   TEUNISSEN Mike   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   AFFINI Edoardo   

GPBlanco
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem   *
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   OSS Daniel   *
   CAVENDISH Mark   
   STANNARD Ian   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   BOOM Lars   
   DEVOLDER Stijn   *

Joelsim
   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   THEUNS Edward   
   MCLAY Daniel   *
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   STALLAERT Joeri   
   VAKOC Petr   

Josedin
   VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   *
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER HOORN Taco   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   THEUNS Edward   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   KEISSE Iljo   
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

JustSomeGuy

   WELLENS Tim   *
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   PLANCKAERT Edward   *
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   ROWE Luke   
   CLARKE William   *
   BOOM Lars   
   DE CLERCQ Bart   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

Kazistuta
   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAN STAEYEN Michael   

Laarsland
   LAMPAERT Yves   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   DEBUSSCHERE Jens   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   ROWE Luke   
   NAESEN Lawrence   
   BETTIOL Alberto   

Leadbelly
   LAMPAERT Yves   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   SENECHAL Florian   
   TEUNISSEN Mike   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

LightBing
   BENOOT Tiesj   
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   BAKELANTS Jan   
   STANNARD Ian   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   STALLAERT Joeri   
   DE CLERCQ Bart   
   VAKOC Petr   

Los Brolin
   GILBERT Philippe   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   ROWE Luke   
   GESBERT Elie   *
   WAEYTENS Zico   
   FILOSI Iuri   *
   VAKOC Petr   

Madrazo
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   STANNARD Ian   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   

Mellow Velo
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   KREUZIGER Roman   
   GASPAROTTO Enrico   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   EDMONDSON Alexander   *
   ROWE Luke   
   EISEL Bernhard   
   FEDRIGO Leonardo   *
   MUÑOZ GIRALDO Daniel Felipe   *
   VAKOC Petr   

Nathanptz
   GILBERT Philippe   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   STANNARD Ian   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   BOOM Lars   
   ASSELMAN Jesper   *

North American Scum
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   *
   EENKHOORN Pascal   *
   THEUNS Edward   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   ROWE Luke   
   BOOM Lars   

Otoxiep87
   LAMPAERT Yves   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   GASPAROTTO Enrico   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   PETIT Adrien   *
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   BIERMANS Jenthe   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   ALLEGAERT Piet   *
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Postmanhat
   MOSCON Gianni   *
   VAN AERT Wout   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   DE BUYST Jasper   *
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   VANDENBERGH Stijn   
   STANNARD Ian   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   ROWE Luke   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Premier Andrew
   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   THEUNS Edward   
   BAKELANTS Jan   
   STANNARD Ian   
   SWIFT Ben   *
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Rote Laterne
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   STANNARD Ian   
   ROWE Luke   
   BOOM Lars   

Safebet
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   BONIFAZIO Niccolo   *
   COSNEFROY Benoit   *
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
   BARBIER Rudy   
   ROWE Luke   
   VAKOC Petr   

Salvarani
   LUTSENKO Alexey   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   DEBUSSCHERE Jens   
   SENECHAL Florian   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   HOFLAND Moreno   
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   AFFINI Edoardo   
   BOOM Lars   

Scrool07
   BENOOT Tiesj   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VANENDERT Jelle   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   THEUNS Edward   
   BACKAERT Frederik   *
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   BIERMANS Jenthe   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   VANHOUCKE Harm   *
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Search
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   POLITT Nils   *
   KEUKELEIRE Jens   *
   KITTEL Marcel   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   THEUNS Edward   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   ROWE Luke   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAN STAEYEN Michael   

SemirS
   NAESEN Oliver   *
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   HAYMAN Mathew   *
   DAVIS Cole   *
   DAVY Clément   *
   MORIN Emmanuel   *
   SCHREURS Hamish   *
   SHEEHAN Riley   *
   WAERENSKJOLD Soren   *

ThePirate81
   GILBERT Philippe   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAN STAEYEN Michael   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

Tobydawq
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   VANDENBERGH Stijn   
   STANNARD Ian   
   ROWE Luke   
   NAESEN Lawrence   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAKOC Petr   

Triley36
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   DUNBAR Eddie   *
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   CAVENDISH Mark   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   AERTS Toon   *
   BOOM Lars   

Vladimir
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   TEUNISSEN Mike   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   
   BAKELANTS Jan   
   HOFLAND Moreno   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   RUSSO Clément   *


And that mathematical set, calculated as the team with the highest possible score from performances in this set of races last year:
So Last Year
   TERPSTRA Niki   *
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   SISR Frantisek   *
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   DEMPSTER Zakkari   *
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   DUVAL Julien   *
   FENN Andrew   *
   LECROQ Jérémy   *
   DE BACKER Bert   *
   VAN RHEE Joey   *
I'll place this team at the bottom of the table, with the Collective Wisdom, but it's riders are included in the data to follow.  I think this is the highest scoring within budget: Hakkie, who normally corrects me on these things, hasn't entered this year, but if anyone can do better, please let me know.

Always interesting to see the teams coming in: Evenepoel's frequency of selection dropped off after news of his injury, but Rowe's didn't; Kittel was popular among the early teams, but his anonymity in UAE meant he was rare among later submissions, and the most expensive picks were all very rare.
A few team lists left me thinking "Damn, I should have thought of him," and a couple made me wonder "Why on Earth has he been selected?" (especially the rider who retired 6 weeks ago).

More later: I have some domestics to attend to, and the race is on hold on my TV.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 15:53
The Big Spends

The average budget per rider in 250 pts: to spend more than twice of that is an expression of some confidence in a rider, so who went for who?  19 of these riders were chosen; 5 teams found space for four of them, 8 teams combine three, 18 teams are two-headed, and 4 have a single leader.

Van Avermaet:      Blues in the Bottle   
         
Wellens   and Stybar:   Just Some Guy   
         
Terpstra   and Vanmarcke:   So Last Year   
         
Valgren   and Van Aert:   Josedin   
         
Moscon   and Van Aert:   Postmanhat   
         
Naesen   with Vanmarcke, Van Aert and Van der Poel:   SemirS   
         
Benoot   with Stybar and Vanmarcke:   LightBing   
   with Van Aert:   Scrool07   
         
Gilbert   with Vanmarcke:   LosBrolin   
   with Trentin and Van der Poel:   ThePirate81   
   with Trentin:   Nathanptz   
         
Lampaert   with Vanmarcke:   Laarsland and    Leadbelly
   with Trentin:   Otoxiep87   
         
Stybar   with Van Aert, Trentin and Van der Poel:   Tobydawq   
         
Boassen Hagen   with Lutsenko, Van Aert and Van der Poel:   Del1962   
         
Lutsenko   with Kreuziger and Van der Poel:   Armchair Cyclist   
   with Trentin:   Salvarani   
         
Gaviria   with Vanmarcke, Van Aert and Van der Poel:   PremierAndrew   
   with Vanmarcke and Trentin:   Kazistuta   
   with Trentin and Van der Poel:   Joelsim   
         
Vanmarcke   with Van Aert and Kreuziger:   MellowVelo   
   withVan Aert and Van der Poel:   Madrazo   
   with Van Aert:   GPBlanco   
   with Trentin:   RoteLaterne,  Safebet and Vladimir
   with Van der Poel:   Search   
   alone   NorthAmericanScum   
         
Van Aert   with Trentin, Cort and Van der Poel:   Chiron   
   with Trentin:   Bminchow   
   with Van der Poel:   AmisVelo, Blues in the Bottle and Triley36
         
Trentin:      Comodoro and   Flo
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 02, 2019, 15:55
1st and 3rd nice start
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 16:55
Rider Popularity

25: ROWE Luke
24: BOOM Lars
17: BETTIOL Alberto, THEUNS Edward
16: VANMARCKE Sep
15: TRENTIN Matteo, VAKOC Petr, VAN AERT Wout
13: DURBRIDGE Luke, EVENEPOEL Remco, VAN DER POEL Mathieu
11: ROELANDTS Jürgen
10: VAN BAARLE Dylan
Those in bold will be the Collective Wisdom team: I had to swap Van Baarle in to replace Van der Poel to keep it within budget.

9: PHILIPSEN Jasper, STANNARD Ian
8: CAPIOT Amaury, HAUSSLER Heinrich
7: KITTEL Marcel, PHINNEY Taylor, VAN ASBROECK Tom
6: FELLINE Fabio, LANGEVELD Sebastian, WISNIOWSKI Lukasz
5: HALVORSEN Kristoffer, KÜNG Stefan, VLIEGEN Loïc
4: PLANCKAERT Baptiste
3: BAKELANTS Jan, DEBUSSCHERE Jens, GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando, GIBBONS Ryan, GILBERT Philippe, HOFLAND Moreno, LAMPAERT Yves, LUTSENKO Alexey, STALLAERT Joeri, STYBAR Zdenek, TEUNISSEN Mike, VAN DER HOORN Taco, VAN STAEYEN Michael, VANDENBERGH Stijn
2: AFFINI Edoardo, BARBIER Rudy, BENOOT Tiesj, BIERMANS Jenthe, CAVENDISH Mark, DE CLERCQ Bart, EISEL Bernhard, GARCIA CORTINA Ivan, GASPAROTTO Enrico, KEISSE Iljo, KREUZIGER Roman, KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav, NAESEN Lawrence, PÖSTLBERGER Lukas, SENECHAL Florian, VANENDERT Jelle, WAEYTENS ZICO

The 60 unique picks are shown in the team lists.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 17:23
Team Popularity

Number in brackets is the number of unique picks in each team
1   Madrazo   172      (0)
2   RoteLaterne   161      (0)
3   PremierAndrew   156      (1)
4   AmisVelo   154      (1)
5   ThePirate81   151      (0)
6   Joelsim   147      (1)
6   Tobydawq   147      (0)
8   Armchair   145      (0)
8   Kazistuta   145      (0)
10   Leadbelly   141      (0)
11   Bminchow   140      (0)
12   Josedin   134      (1)
13   Chiron   130      (2)
13   NorthAmericanScum   130      (2)
15   Search   126      (2)
16   Del1962   120      (2)
16   Safebet   120      (2)
18   Salvarani   118      (0)
19   BlackBandit222   117      (3)
20   Nathanptz   116      (1)
21   JustSomeGuy   113      (3)
21   Laarsland   113      (0)
23   Scrool07   112      (2)
24   Comodoro   110      (3)
25   LightBing   108      (0)
26   GPBlanco   105      (3)
27   MellowVelo   104      (3)
27   Triley36   104      (2)
29   Flo   103      (0)
29   LosBrolin   103      (2)
31   Postmanhat   101      (2)
32   Vladimir   94      (1)
33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   91      (3)
34   Otoxiep87   81      (2)
35   SemirS   58      (8)
   CollectiveWisdom   191            
   SoLastYear   45      (8)

Scores from last year
Points earned in these races last year:
1   Laarsland   1654
2   LightBing   1643
3   MellowVelo   1468
4   Scrool07   1356
5   LosBrolin   1322
6   Leadbelly   1301
7   GPBlanco   1290
8   Josedin   1273
9   Vladimir   1244
10   Madrazo   1237
11   SemirS   1171
12   Bminchow   1168
13   Nathanptz   1135
14   Safebet   1122
15   RoteLaterne   1087
16   NorthAmericanScum   1033
17   Search   958
18   Tobydawq   916
19   BlackBandit222   895
20   PremierAndrew   880
21   Otoxiep87   857
22   Kazistuta   847
23   JustSomeGuy   845
24   Flo   839
25   Salvarani   828
26   Postmanhat   784
27   Chiron   779
28   ThePirate81   733
29   Armchair   718
30   Comodoro   714
31   Triley36   706
32   Blues_in_the_Bottle   693
33   Del1962   642
34   AmisVelo   634
35   Joelsim   448
   CollectiveWisdom   1252
   SoLastYear   2123

Previous performance is not necessarily an indicator of future performance, as they say on advertisements for financial products.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 02, 2019, 18:17
I think I have this one in the bag.

Like last year.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 19:36
Race 1/21: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad

A good start to the series with an entertaining race, and for the game with a few decent scorers: 4 of the 5 riders in the decisive group were chosen for the game, albeit all fairly rare picks.

Top scorers
STYBAR Zdenek 1st, 180pts for JustSomeGuy, LightBing and Tobydawq
VAN AVERMAET Greg 2nd, 108 pts for BlackBandit222
WELLENS Tim 3rd, 92 pts for JustSomeGuy
LUTSENKO Alexey 4th, 78 pts for Armchair Cyclist, Del 1962 and Salvarani
LAMPAERT Yves 7th, 54 pts for 3 teams
GILBERT Philippe 8th, 46 points for 3 teams
TRENTIN Matteo 9th, 40 for 15 teams
NAESEN Oliver 10th, 36 for 1 team
plus 12 more of the top 25, getting more than minimum points, and 28 other finishers with 5 points


Team scores and, therefore, standings after 1 event
1   JustSomeGuy   290  (Stybar, Wellens, Durbridge (8), one fiver)
2   Tobydawq   279 (Stybar, Trentin, Van Aert (24), Langeveld (20), 3 fivers)
3   LightBing   205 (Stybar and 5 fivers)
4   BlackBandit222   169 (Van Avermaet, Van Baarle(22), De Vreese(16), Durbridge and 3 fivers)
5   Nathanptz   146 (Gilbert, Trentin, Van Baarle, Durbridge and 6 fivers)
6   Salvarani   139
7   Del1962   117
8   Bminchow   116
8   RoteLaterne   116
10   Otoxiep87   109
11   LosBrolin   106
12   Leadbelly   100
13   Flo   97
14   ThePirate81   96
15   Armchair   93
16   Laarsland   87
16   GPBlanco   87
16   Search   87
16   Kazistuta   87
20   Safebet   86
21   SemirS   85
22   Triley36   82
23   Chiron   79
24   Comodoro   77
25   Vladimir   74
26   Joelsim   69
27   Madrazo   65
28   Blues_in_the_Bottle   63
28   AmisVelo   63
30   NorthAmericanScum   55
31   Josedin   54
32   Postmanhat   52
33   Scrool07   49
34   MellowVelo   48
35   PremierAndrew   44
   CollectiveWisdom   115
   SoLastYear   36
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2019, 06:53
AC did I miss points for Edward PLANCKAERT or BOOM  ?

I had 2 5 pointers
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Flo on March 03, 2019, 08:49
Decent start despite only Trentin in top-10.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 11:47
AC did I miss points for Edward PLANCKAERT or BOOM  ?

I had 2 5 pointers
Yeah, you have both of them, and they both contributed to your 290 points, I either glanced too quickly at your page, or I forgot a number while moving from Spreadsheet to web edit box.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 16:33
Points will be low: first, second and fourth unpicked, third only on non-competing team So Last Year: we are down to Lampaert in 5th place before we get any proper scorers.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Flo on March 03, 2019, 16:53
Who is the rider that retired 6 weeks ago?
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2019, 18:16
23 points unless I missed a 5 point rider :win
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 18:23
Who is the rider that retired 6 weeks ago?
SemirS has Matthew Hayman, who I believe rode the TDU as his farewell, alongside a number of young pointless riders from teams unlikely to be invited to any of these races.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 18:35
23 points unless I missed a 5 point rider :win

Who do you think is your 5 pointer?  The spreadsheet has you down for 18.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2019, 18:41
Who do you think is your 5 pointer?  The spreadsheet has you down for 18.

VAN ASBROECK Tom 18

STYBAR Zdenek 5

I think
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 18:46
Stybar came 33rd: only the top 30 get points in an HC race.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2019, 18:48
Ohh I thought we use CQ ranking points he has 5 on the website

Edit no he didn't sorry my old eyes are not what they were or I was hoping :lol
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 20:00
Race 2/21  Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne
or was it 2018 LBL?

Only about 1/4 of the points that were earned yesterday (expensive men at the top, apart from Doull who was unfancied, and a lower ranked race)

Riders in the game:
TERPSTRA Niki   3rd, 72pts for the So Last Year team
LAMPAERT Yves   5th, 54pts for Laarsland, Leadbelly and Otoxiep87
SENECHAL Florian   6th, 48 for Leadbelly and Salvarani
KEUKELEIRE Jens   7th, 42 for Search
DE BUYST Jasper   9th, 30 for Postmanhat

Also 5 more of the top 20, and 4 of the five point scorers (only the top 30 get anything in HC races, whereas all finishers get at least 5 in the WT races)

Points today
1   Leadbelly   107 (Lampaert, Senechal and a fiver)
2   Otoxiep87   85 (Lampaert, Van Asbroek (18), Petit (8) and a 5er)
3   Laarsland   65 (Lampaert and Debusschere (11))
4   Salvarani   64 (Senechal, Debusschere and a 5er)
5   Search   54 (Keukeleire and Theuns(12))
6   Nathanptz, NorthAmericanScum   45
8   Postmanhat   30
9   Flo   25
10   Bminchow, GPBlanco, Triley36   23
13   JustSomeGuy, ThePirate81   18
15   Blues_in_the_Bottle,    Joelsim, Kazistuta, Madrazo, RoteLaterne, Vladimir   17
21   AmisVelo, Armchair, Comodoro, Del1962, Josedin, PremierAndrew, Scrool07   12
28   MellowVelo, Safebet   5
30   BlackBandit222, Chiron, LightBing, LosBrolin, SemirS, Tobydawq   0
   SoLastYear   72
   CollectiveWisdom   17

Standings
1   JustSomeGuy   308
2   Tobydawq   279
3   Leadbelly   207
4   LightBing   205
5   Salvarani   203
6   Otoxiep87   194
7   Nathanptz   191
8   BlackBandit222   169
9   Laarsland   152
10   Search   141
11   Bminchow   139
12   RoteLaterne   133
13   Del1962   129
14   Flo   122
15   ThePirate81   114
16   GPBlanco   110
17   LosBrolin   106
18   Triley36   105
18   Armchair   105
20   Kazistuta   104
21   NorthAmericanScum   100
22   Vladimir   91
22   Safebet   91
24   Comodoro   89
25   Joelsim   86
26   SemirS   85
27   Postmanhat   82
27   Madrazo   82
29   Blues_in_the_Bottle   80
30   Chiron   79
31   AmisVelo   75
32   Josedin   66
33   Scrool07   61
34   PremierAndrew   56
35   MellowVelo   53
   SoLastYear   108
   CollectiveWisdom   132

Yesterday's points are more than 80% of the total, so no surprise that the top 2 remain as they were.  Leadbelly jumps 9 places (matched by NAS further down the table) into third, and  Laarsland and Search also move (just) into the early top ten.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 20:52
Green points

New this year, and if what I have done on the spreadsheet works, I'll incorporate it into the GT games as well.

Regardless of the status of the race, or how narrow or convincing the margin, managers are to be rewarded for their position in each race.  I will use the points scale that CQ give to the top ten finishers in a Tour de France stage (80, 50, 35, 25, 15, 10, 5, 3, 2, 1), and where two or more teams share a score, I will add the points and divide them, so the two teams that shared 6th today, I add 10 points for 6th to 5 for 7th, divide that total by 2, and award each manager 7.5 points in the Green Jersey contest.

The two daily winners share the lead:
1   JustSomeGuy   80
1   Leadbelly   80
3   Otoxiep87   51
4   Tobydawq   50
5   Laarsland   35
5   LightBing   35
5   Salvarani   35
8   BlackBandit222   25
9   Nathanptz   22.5
10   Search   15
11   NorthAmericanScum   7.5
12   Del1962   5
13   Postmanhat   3
14   Bminchow   2.83
15   RoteLaterne   2.5
16   Flo   2
17   GPBlanco   0.33
17   Triley36   0.33
19   All other teams   0

The spreadsheet is here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0): as ever, it will not move but I might not post the link in every update.  You will notice one other new feature in the spreadsheet although I haven't extracted anything from it in these opening posts: a page showing how many riders each team has in common with each other team (the most similar teams share 8 men). 

Maybe someone will check if they can find a better "So Last Year" combination than I could find: the data is on the 'Price' page.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 06, 2019, 00:50
ThePirate81 over at CN points out that Jasper Philipsen is now acknowledged as having finished 24th in Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne, having initially been omitted from the results.
So 5 points to teams with Philipsen (BlackBandit222, Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Chiron, Joelsim, Josedin, North American Scum, Otoxiep87, ThePirate81) : nobody picked the now 31st placed and therefore pointless Kasper Asgreen.

Changed scores marked*
1   JustSomeGuy   308
2   Tobydawq   279
3   Leadbelly   207
4   LightBing   205
5   Salvarani   203
6   Otoxiep87   199*
7   Nathanptz   191
8   BlackBandit222   174*
9   Laarsland   152
10   Bminchow   144* (up one place)
11   Search   141
12   RoteLaterne   133
13   Del1962   129
14   Flo   122
15   ThePirate81   119*
16   GPBlanco   110
17   LosBrolin   106
18   NorthAmericanScum   105* (up 3 places)
18   Triley36   105
18   Armchair   105
21   Kazistuta   104
22   Joelsim   91* (up 3 places)
22   Vladimir   91
22   Safebet   91
25   Comodoro   89
26   Blues_in_the_Bottle   85* (up 3 places)
26   SemirS   85
28   Chiron   84* (up 2 places)
29   Postmanhat   82
29   Madrazo   82
31   AmisVelo   75
32   Josedin   71*
33   Scrool07   61
34   PremierAndrew   56
35   MellowVelo   53
   SoLastYear   108
   CollectiveWisdom   132

It also changes the Green Jersey somewhat:
1   JustSomeGuy   80
1   Leadbelly   80
3   Otoxiep87   51
4   Tobydawq   50
5   LightBing   35
5   Salvarani   35
5   Laarsland   35
8   BlackBandit222   25
9   Nathanptz   20
10   Search   15
11   NorthAmericanScum   10*
12   Del1962   5
13   Bminchow   4.5*
14   Postmanhat   3
15   RoteLaterne   2.5
16   Flo   1

In an effort to not be too late with updates, I post as soon as I can after CQ put up the full finishers list
(I can't do much before that, which is usually quite a delay already), and I can't promise to always notice all subsequent alterations to the result sheet, so please do point it out if it happens on other races.  I will assume that CQ is (eventually) correct if results services vary, unless there is overwhelming evidence that they have made a mistake (although in my experience they are flexible and humble enough to acknowledge and change).  Maybe I should allow 24 hours or so after the final race before I declare a definite result.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 08, 2019, 22:24
1.) No LE SAMYN !?!?

2.) JSG might be kicking my as but atleast I’m ahead of Search for now.

3.) I was beginning to wonder if Philipsen was going to get me any results.

4.) Keisse deserves a result after being taken out in the KBK sprint, I guess no one feels sorry for him on International Women’s Day.

5.)This looks like a ton of work or some excellent Excel skills thank you ArmChair.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on March 08, 2019, 22:54
I knew I had a boring team!  :ohu

I do like Blackbandit22's approach and of course the Stybar teams.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 09, 2019, 12:48
I knew I had a boring team!  :ohu

I do like Blackbandit22's approach and of course the Stybar teams.

I like your choice of Trentin.  Not sure about Kittel & Haussler.

No pressure GVA ..... only the teams entire year relies on you!
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 09, 2019, 15:34
No-one picked the top 2, only Tobydawq has both Van Aert and Stybar, and only Scrool combines Van Aert and Benoot: one of them will probably be the top of this game.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 09, 2019, 19:44
Race 3/21 Strade Bianche

180 points won today, MSR as a stated goal, and the Ardennes to follow, maybe Alaphilippe will prove to be the key to success that nobody tried in this game.

Those in today's top ten that we did pick:
VAN AERT Wout   3rd, 92pts for 15 teams
STYBAR Zdenek   4th, 78 for JustSomeGuy, LightBing and Tobydawq
BENOOT Tiesj   5th, 70 for LightBing and Scrool
VAN AVERMAET Greg   6th, 62 for Black Bandit 222
LUTSENKO Alexey   7th, 54 for Armchair Cyclist, Del 1962 and Salvarani
WELLENS Tim   10th, 36 for JSG
also 4 more of the top 20, and 10 other 5 point finishers, were among our picks

Points today
1   Scrool07   181 (Van Aert, Benoot, Durbridge (14) and a fiver)
2   Tobydawq   180 (Van Aert, Stybar, 2 fivers)
3   LightBing   163 (Stybar, Benoot, 3 fivers)
4   Del1962   146 (Van Aert, Lutsenko)
5   JustSomeGuy   133 (Stybar, Wellens, Durbridge and a fiver)
6   MellowVelo   122
7   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Josedin   117
9   Postmanhat, Madrazo   111
11   AmisVelo   107
12   Chiron   102
13   Bminchow, PremierAndrew   97
15   GPBlanco, Triley36, SemirS   92
18   BlackBandit222   81
19   Armchair   75
20   Salvarani   59
21   Laarsland   54
22   Leadbelly   45
23   Kazistuta   39
24   Otoxiep87   35
25   Flo, Joelsim   30
27   NorthAmericanScum   25
28   Safebet   24
29   LosBrolin, Vladimir   19
31   Nathanptz, RoteLaterne   14
33   ThePirate81   10
34   Search,    Comodoro   5
   SoLastYear   5
   CollectiveWisdom   116

Green Jersey

Two second places beats any of the three winners in a race so far, even when paired with a fifth place.
1   Tobydawq   100
2   JustSomeGuy   95
3   Scrool07   80
3   Leadbelly   80
5   LightBing   70
6   Otoxiep87   51
7   Salvarani   35
7   Laarsland   35
9   Del1962   30
10   BlackBandit222   25

Standings
The three Stybar teams make up the podium, but Tobydawq becomes the top one of them. Del has a 9 place jump into the top ten, but that is as nothing compared with Scrool's 25 place leap from the bottom three to the top ten. 
1   Tobydawq   459
2   JustSomeGuy   441
3   LightBing   368
4   Del1962   275
5   Salvarani   262
6   BlackBandit222   255
7   Leadbelly   252
8   Scrool07   242
9   Bminchow   241
10   Otoxiep87   234
11   Laarsland   206
12   Nathanptz   205
13   Blues_in_the_Bottle   202
13   GPBlanco   202
15   Triley36   197
16   Postmanhat   193
16   Madrazo   193
18   Josedin   188
19   Chiron   186
20   AmisVelo   182
21   Armchair   180
22   SemirS   177
23   MellowVelo   175
24   PremierAndrew   153
25   Flo   152
26   RoteLaterne   147
27   Search   146
28   Kazistuta   143
29   NorthAmericanScum   130
30   ThePirate81   129
31   LosBrolin   125
32   Joelsim   121
33   Safebet   115
34   Vladimir   110
35   Comodoro   94
   SoLastYear   113
   CollectiveWisdom   248

I'm not expecting many points from the Industria e Artigeano (did that name from memory, almost certainly got it wrong) tomorrow, but there will be an update, and it is just as relevant to the Green Jersey competition as Paris-Roubaix.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 09, 2019, 20:04
Hmmm Tim verse some cx rider :lol

Nice gap on 3rd place for Dawg and myself
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on March 09, 2019, 20:51
I like your choice of Trentin.  Not sure about Kittel & Haussler.

No pressure GVA ..... only the teams entire year relies on you!

I did think of a GVA team too but wasn't too sure about his support from real life teammates. But in this game going top heavy almost always pays off.

Kittel has to win Scheldeprijs and Frankfurt then he's a good pick. It seems Haussler won't race that much so you are probably right.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 10, 2019, 15:04
Race 4/21: GP Industria & Artigianato (GP Larciano)
No selected rider in the top ten...

(An hour later)
still only the top ten available...

(bit later)
No chosen rider among the top 30 who get points

(later still)
No chosen rider among the 90 finishers.


I know I said that this would contribute just as much to the green jersey competition as any monument: it would if I averaged out the points and gave everyone 6.47, but if you don't mind, I don't think I'll bother.

Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 17, 2019, 18:00
Edward my man
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 17, 2019, 18:41
Edward my man

Not many managers with anything to celebrate today: your unique pick will take the spoils.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 17, 2019, 20:04
Race 5/21 Ronde van Drenthe

After the completely pointless GP Larciano last weekend, the Ronde van Drenthe didn't produce much more this week.  I guess that the WT teams have their eyes on Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico, so their riders, and our picks, are largely absent.

I guess with more races becoming WT, those that are still 1.HC get less attention.  We'll have some chat at the end of the game about how to select races for next year, but for now, I said it was in, so it is.

PLANCKAERT Edward   7th, 42 pts for Just Some Guy
DEMPSTER Zakkari    21st, 5 for Blues in the Bottle
SPENGLER Lukas    24th, 5 for So Last Year, and therefore not counted for Green Points
ALLEGAERT Piet   27th, 5 for Otoxiep87

Blues itB moves up 2 places to 11th, Otoxiep remains in 10th, and JSG retakes the lead, 24 ahead of Tobydawq rather than 18 down.

80 Green points to JSG, and 42.5 to the other two scorers. That means the points for positions 4-10 should be shared among the other 32 teams.  But rather than give them all 1.91 points, and on the same principle as I didn't give everyone 6.47 points last week, I'll take that amount off the three scores that were achieved. 
So that'll be 78.09 and 40.59.
1   JustSomeGuy   173.09
2   Tobydawq   100
3   Otoxiep87   91.59
4   Leadbelly   80
4   Scrool07   80
6   LightBing   70
7   Blues_in_the_Bottle   44.59
8   Salvarani   35
8   Laarsland   35
10   Del1962   30

Let's see whether Nokere Koerse on Wednesday is a bit more impactful on the scores.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 18, 2019, 05:51
I know you said after the game but it adds a dimension to the game trying to pick up points in lesser races as well.

I am biased at the moment ofc but that is why I picked my man Edward
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 20, 2019, 19:30
Man, I thought that was lining up to be a Matthieu Van Der Poel victory, now he’s probably out for the rest of the Classics!  The English commentator I had was unable to identity MVP for several minutes.  Every MTB and CX fan was probably slack jawed during this time as the most famous rider in the race in a National Championship kit no less lay unidentified in the fence.  Amazing how people can’t identify cross discipline cyclists.  (That said I’m unfamiliar with the winner)

Speaking of Cross Discipline riders I’m excited to see all the young Americans headed to Europe for the Classics over the next month including the US National team, Lux Jr squad, Arapahoe-Hincapie and Hagens Berman Axeon (in this race, recent alumnus finished 3rd).  But, recent winner of the Redlands final stage Quinn Simmons was a multi time mountain bike championship & International competitor at some sort of Telemark ski competition.  He transitioned to Road last year after contacting Roy Knickman and finished 3rd at Ghent Wevelgem and 7th at Roubaix as a first year Junior 17-18!  Wow the next Farrar or Hincapie ??!
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on March 20, 2019, 20:45
Man, I thought that was lining up to be a Matthieu Van Der Poel victory, now he’s probably out for the rest of the Classics!  The English commentator I had was unable to identity MVP for several minutes.  Every MTB and CX fan was probably slack jawed during this time as the most famous rider in the race in a National Championship kit no less lay unidentified in the fence.  Amazing how people can’t identify cross discipline cyclists.  (That said I’m unfamiliar with the winner)
MTB and CX notwithstanding, MvdP is the Dutch champion. A commentator should know who the various national champions are (definitely of the big nations, of which the Netherlands is one).
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 20, 2019, 21:03
Race 6/21 Nokere Koerse

This race might have had a much bigger effect on the game (and the classics season) than the points it has yielded, although more recent announcements suggest that Van Der Poel's  injuries are not as bad as feared (I thought Gerts' and Moschetti's falls looked even nastier) and his schedule might be unaffected.

PHILIPSEN Jasper   3rd, 72pts for 9 teams
DEBUSSCHERE Jens   9th, 30pts for Bminchow, Laarsland and Salvarani
NAESEN Lawrence   10th, 26 for Laarsland and Tobydawq
PLANCKAERT Baptiste   14th, 12 for 4 teams
ALLEGAERT Piet   18th, 8 for 1
DEMPSTER Zakkari   23rd, 5 for 1

1   Bminchow   102 (Philipsen & Debusschere) (80 Green Points)
2   Otoxiep87   80 (Philipsen and Allegaert) (50 GPts)
3   BlackBandit222, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Chiron, Joelsim, Josedin, NorthAmericanScum, ThePirate81   72 (13.57 G Pts each)
10   Laarsland   56 (Debusschere & Naesen) (1 GPt)
11   Salvarani   30
12   Tobydawq   26
13   AmisVelo, LosBrolin, Madrazo, Scrool07   12
17   All others   0
   SoLastYear   5
   CollectiveWisdom   0

Green Points
Otoxiep was 3rd, now 2nd, and Bminchow comes up from nowhere.

1   JustSomeGuy   173.09
2   Otoxiep87   141.59
3   Tobydawq   100
4   Bminchow   84.5
5   Leadbelly   80
5   Scrool07   80
7   LightBing   70
8   Blues_in_the_Bottle   58.16
9   BlackBandit222   38.57
10   Laarsland   36
11   Salvarani   35
12   Del1962   30
13   NorthAmericanScum   23.57
14   Nathanptz   20
15   Josedin   17.57
16   Search   15
17   Chiron   13.57
17   Joelsim   13.57
17   ThePirate81   13.57
20   MellowVelo   10
21   Postmanhat   4.5
22   RoteLaterne   2.5
23   Madrazo   1.5
24   Flo   1
25   Eleven other teams   0

Standings

The back and forth at the top of the table between Tobydawq and JSG continues: Toby's turn at the top, but only by 2 points.  Bminchow (5 places) and Ototxiep (4) have the most significant top ten rises, Blues in the Bottle and Laarsland enter the top ten, and further down, the biggest leaps are made by Joelsim (10 places), Pirate81 (11) and NAS(12).

1   Tobydawq   485
2   JustSomeGuy   483
3   LightBing   368
4   Bminchow   343
5   BlackBandit222   327
6   Otoxiep87   319
7   Salvarani   292
8   Blues_in_the_Bottle   279
9   Del1962   275
10   Laarsland   262
11   Josedin   260
12   Chiron   258
13   Scrool07   254
14   Leadbelly   252
15   Madrazo   205
15   Nathanptz   205
17   GPBlanco   202
17   NorthAmericanScum   202
19   ThePirate81   201
20   Triley36   197
21   AmisVelo   194
22   Joelsim   193
22   Postmanhat   193
24   Armchair   180
25   SemirS   177
26   MellowVelo   175
27   PremierAndrew   153
28   Flo   152
29   RoteLaterne   147
30   Search   146
31   Kazistuta   143
32   LosBrolin   137
33   Safebet   115
34   Vladimir   110
35   Comodoro   94
   SoLastYear   123
   CollectiveWisdom   248

A busy few days coming up: We're back here on Friday (Koksijde), Saturday (Milan-San Remo) and Sunday (Denain): one of those will be key.  I'd better treat the wife tomorrow...

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 22, 2019, 20:06
Race 7/21 Bredene Koksijde (but the spreadsheet still refers to Handzame)

Bit part players from our teams mainly, so not many teams taking anything here.

HALVORSEN KRISTOFFER    2nd, 84pts for 5 teams
NAESEN Lawrence   7th, 42 for 2 teams
BARBIER Rudy   10th, 26 for 2
BOECKMANS KRIS   16th, 10 for 1
FILOSI Iuri   17th, 9 for 1
KEISSE Iljo    29th, 5 for 2

1   Laarsland   126 (Halvorsen and Naesen, 80 Green Pts)
2   Safebet   110 (Halvorsen and Barbier, 50 Green Pts)
3   Chiron   94 (Halvorsen and Boeckmans, 35 Green Pts)
4   LosBrolin   93 (Halvorsen and Filosi, 25 Green Pts)
5   Postmanhat   84 (15 GPs)
6   Tobydawq   42 (10)
7   Bminchow   26 (5)
8   BlackBandit222, Josedin   5 (2.5 each)
10   All others   0 (0.04 G Pts each, so even I am off the mark)

Green Points
The top 2 didn't score today, but Laarsland is up from 10th to 3rd, and 2nd place on the day gives Safebet a top ten appearance with his first points.
1   JustSomeGuy   173.13
2   Otoxiep87   141.63
3   Laarsland   116
4   Tobydawq   110
5   Bminchow   89.5
6   Leadbelly   80.04
6   Scrool07   80.04
8   LightBing   70.04
9   Blues_in_the_Bottle   58.2
10   Safebet   50

Standings

For the first time, the lead is extended rather than swapped back, Tobydawq taking a lead into the first Monument.  Laarsland (op from 10th) and Bminchow finally break up the dominance of the Stybar teams. Chiron moves up 6 places to get into the top ten, and the rise of the day plaudits (16 places) are shared by Safebet and Los Brolin.
 
1   Tobydawq   527
2   JustSomeGuy   483
3   Laarsland   388
4   Bminchow   369
5   LightBing   368
6   Chiron   352
7   BlackBandit222   332
8   Otoxiep87   319
9   Salvarani   292
10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   279
11   Postmanhat   277
12   Del1962   275
13   Josedin   265
14   Scrool07   254
15   Leadbelly   252
16   LosBrolin   230
17   Safebet   225
18   Nathanptz   205
18   Madrazo   205
20   NorthAmericanScum   202
20   GPBlanco   202
22   ThePirate81   201
23   Triley36   197
24   AmisVelo   194
25   Joelsim   193
26   Armchair   180
27   SemirS   177
28   MellowVelo   175
29   PremierAndrew   153
30   Flo   152
31   RoteLaterne   147
32   Search   146
33   Kazistuta   143
34   Vladimir   110
35   Comodoro   94
   SoLastYear   123
   CollectiveWisdom   248


The biggest favourites for Milan-San Remo aren't picked for the game (with the exception of Gaviria), but the unpredictability of that race, and the higher number of points available, mean that we should expect considerable shake up in the table. 

Numbers on Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 22, 2019, 20:22
Just have to survive tomorrow and still looking ok
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 23, 2019, 16:25
Only the first 12 from MSR up so far, but SemirS has Naesen as a unique pick, and has Van Aert.  Three riders, including leader Tobydawq, combine Van Aert with the other popular pick in the top ten, Trentin.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 23, 2019, 16:51
Just have to survive tomorrow and still looking ok

Might get a bit ugly :(
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 23, 2019, 19:20
Race 7/21: Milan - San Remo

Most of us had at least one of the top ten, because of 2 popular picks, but the top 5 on the day eluded all but one manager.

NAESEN Oliver   2nd, 170pts for SemirS
VAN AERT Wout   6th, 100pts for 15 teams
TRENTIN Matteo   10th, 62 for 15
OSS Daniel   13th, 42 for GPBlanco
CORT NIELSEN MAGNUS   15th, 34   1
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   16th, 32 for 33
TEUNISSEN Mike   18th, 28 for 3
POLITT Nils   27th, 10 for 1
plus 28 other finishers (out of 138: only 7 failed to finish) for 5 points each.

1   SemirS   275
2   Chiron   211
3   Tobydawq   182
4   Bminchow   172
5   GPBlanco   152
6   PremierAndrew   147
7   Josedin   130
8   MellowVelo   125
8   Madrazo   125
10   Joelsim   124
11   Blues_in_the_Bottle   120
11   Flo   120
13   Scrool07   115
13   AmisVelo   115
13   Del1962   115
13   Triley36   115
17   Kazistuta   114
18   Vladimir   110
19   Postmanhat   105
20   Otoxiep87   87
20   Salvarani   87
20   ThePirate81   87
20   RoteLaterne   87
24   Safebet   82
24   Comodoro   82
26   LosBrolin   77
26   Nathanptz   77
28   Leadbelly   58
29   NorthAmericanScum   35
30   Search   30
31   Armchair   25
31   Laarsland   25
33   BlackBandit222   20
33   JustSomeGuy   20
35   LightBing   15
   SoLastYear   15
   CollectiveWisdom   182


1   SemirS   275 (Naesen, Van Aert, and a 5 pointer: 80 Green Points)
2   Chiron   211 (Van Aert, Trentin, Cort and 3 fivers: 50 points)
3   Tobydawq   182 (Van Aert, Trentin and 4 fivers: 35 points)
4   Bminchow   172 (Van Aert, Trentin and 2 fivers: 25 points)
5   GPBlanco   152 (15)
6   PremierAndrew   147 (10)
7   Josedin   130 (5)
8   MellowVelo, Madrazo   125 (2.5 each)
10   Joelsim   124 (1)
11   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Flo   120
13   AmisVelo, Del1962, Scrool07, Triley36   115
17   Kazistuta   114
18   Vladimir   110
19   Postmanhat   105
20   Otoxiep87, Salvarani, ThePirate81, RoteLaterne   87
24   Safebet, Comodoro   82
26   LosBrolin, Nathanptz   77
28   Leadbelly   58
29   NorthAmericanScum   35
30   Search   30
31   Armchair, Laarsland   25
33   BlackBandit222, JustSomeGuy   20
35   LightBing   15
   SoLastYear   15
   CollectiveWisdom   182

Green Points

Chiron and SemirS are the new entries in the top ten:

1   JustSomeGuy   173.13
2   Tobydawq   145
3   Otoxiep87   141.63
4   Laarsland   116
5   Bminchow   114.5
6   Chiron   98.57
7   SemirS   80.04
7   Scrool07   80.04
7   Leadbelly   80.04
10   LightBing   70.04

Standings

The close battle has turned into a dominant lead, with the closest contender this morning being second last on the day. It is now combining Van Aert and Trentin, (rather than having Stybar) that defines the podium, but having Stybar as well provides a large margin of lead. Josedin and Del1962 move into the top ten, but their rises are as nothing to that of Semir, who has jumped 22 places to 5th.

1   Tobydawq   709
2   Chiron   563
3   Bminchow   541
4   JustSomeGuy   503
5   SemirS   452
6   Laarsland   413
7   Otoxiep87   406
8   Blues_in_the_Bottle   399
9   Josedin   395
10   Del1962   390
11   LightBing   383
12   Postmanhat   382
13   Salvarani   379
14   Scrool07   369
15   GPBlanco   354
16   BlackBandit222   352
17   Madrazo   330
18   Joelsim   317
19   Triley36   312
20   Leadbelly   310
21   AmisVelo   309
22   LosBrolin   307
22   Safebet   307
24   MellowVelo   300
24   PremierAndrew   300
26   ThePirate81   288
27   Nathanptz   282
28   Flo   272
29   Kazistuta   257
30   NorthAmericanScum   237
31   RoteLaterne   234
32   Vladimir   220
33   Armchair   205
34   Comodoro   176
34   Search   176
   SoLastYear   138
   CollectiveWisdom   430

A few scraps of points, but I suspect not much more, to be picked up in GP Denain tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 24, 2019, 18:41
Race 8/21: GP de Denain

The fall at the bottom of the hill in Nokere last Wednesday was not as terminal to MvdP's spring season as first thought.

VAN DER POEL Mathieu  1st, 140 pts for 13 teams
BARBIER Rudy  17th, 9 points for 2 teams
DEMPSTER Zakkari  25th, 5 for the So Last Year group

The MvdP teams, getting 140 points and 17.38 Green points each, are:
Amis Velo
Armchair Cyclist
Blues in the Bottle
Chiron
Del 1962
Joelsim
Madrazo
Premier Andrew
Search
SemirS
ThePirate81
Tobydawq
Triley36

The teams with 9 points for Barbier are:
Bminchow
Safebet


Green points

Chiron moves up one place, SemirS moves away from the 3-way tie, and Blues in the Bottle appears in the top ten.

1   JustSomeGuy   173.13
2   Tobydawq   162.38
3   Otoxiep87   141.63
4   Laarsland   116
5   Chiron   115.95
6   Bminchow   114.5
7   SemirS   97.42
8   Leadbelly   80.04
8   Scrool07   80.04
10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   75.58


Standings

Of the top 13, all but Bminchow and JSG have Van Der Poel.  Madrazo, Joelsim and Triley36 are new in the top ten, all with 9 place rises, although three teams went one better, Premier Andrew managed a 12 spot jump, but Pirate81 tops the pile by jumping 13 spots.  SemirS gets onto the virtual podium, despite a team featuring one retired rider and I reckon 4 others who will not even start one of these races.

1   Tobydawq   849
2   Chiron   703
3   SemirS   592
4   Bminchow   550
5   Blues_in_the_Bottle   539
6   Del1962   530
7   JustSomeGuy   503
8   Madrazo   470
9   Joelsim   457
10   Triley36   452
11   AmisVelo   449
12   PremierAndrew   440
13   ThePirate81   428
14   Laarsland   413
15   Otoxiep87   406
16   Josedin   395
17   LightBing   383
18   Postmanhat   382
19   Salvarani   379
20   Scrool07   369
21   GPBlanco   354
22   BlackBandit222   352
23   Armchair   345
24   Safebet   316
24   Search   316
26   Leadbelly   310
27   LosBrolin   307
28   MellowVelo   300
29   Nathanptz   282
30   Flo   272
31   Kazistuta   257
32   NorthAmericanScum   237
33   RoteLaterne   234
34   Vladimir   220
35   Comodoro   176
   SoLastYear   143
   CollectiveWisdom   430

All off to De Panne on Wednesday, but remember it is only for one day.
Dropbox Ssheet (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 24, 2019, 19:28
More bad news :(
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 27, 2019, 19:09
Race 10/21: De Panne (the last two races have been misnumbered)

Lots of the big name (ie expensive) sprinters hoovering up the main points here, but some left for some of us

GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   2nd, 108pts for 3 teams
HALVORSEN KRISTOFFER   6th, 62pts for 5 teams
TEUNISSEN Mike   10th, 36pts 3 teams
NAESEN Lawrence   14th, 22pts 2 teams
VAN STAEYEN Michael   21st, 10pts 3 teams
BOECKMANS KRIS   22nd, 9pts 1 teams
and 29 different 5 points finishers

1   Kazistuta   128 (Gaviria, Van Staeyen and 2 5ers: 80 Green pts)
2   Joelsim, PremierAndrew   118 (Gaviria and 2 5ers: 42.5 Green pts each)
4   Laarsland   89 (Halvorsen, Naesen and 1 fiver, 25 G pts)
5   Chiron   76  (Halvorsen, Boeckmans and 1 fiver, 15 G pts)
6   LosBrolin, Postmanhat, Safebet   72 (Halvorsen and 2 fivers, 6 G pts)
9   Vladimir   61 (Teunissen and five fives: 2 pts)
10   Flo, Leadbelly   51 (Teunissen and three fives: 0.5 pts)
12   Tobydawq   32
13   NorthAmericanScum, Search   30
15   RoteLaterne, Salvarani   25
17   Bminchow, GPBlanco, Madrazo, Nathanptz, ThePirate81, Triley36   20
23   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Comodoro, Josedin   15
27   Armchair, BlackBandit222, Otoxiep87, Scrool07   10
31   Del1962, JustSomeGuy, LightBing, MellowVelo, SemirS   5
   SoLastYear   10
   CollectiveWisdom   10

Green Points
Kazistuta's victory on the day gets into the top ten, no change in the upper ranks.

1   JustSomeGuy   173.13
2   Tobydawq   162.38
3   Otoxiep87   141.63
4   Laarsland   141
5   Chiron   130.95
6   Bminchow   114.5
7   SemirS   97.42
8   Leadbelly   80.54
9   Kazistuta   80.04
9   Scrool07   80.04

Standings
SemirS in third place scored so low today that the top two now have a huge gap.  Joelsim (4th from 9th) and Premier Andrew (6th from 12th) stake a place among the challengers for the minor placings, Laarsland nudges into the top ten, and Kazistuta has a ten place leap of the day.
1   Tobydawq   881
2   Chiron   779
3   SemirS   597
4   Joelsim   575
5   Bminchow   570
6   PremierAndrew   558
7   Blues_in_the_Bottle   554
8   Del1962   535
9   JustSomeGuy   508
10   Laarsland   502
11   Madrazo   490
12   Triley36   472
13   AmisVelo   464
14   Postmanhat   454
15   ThePirate81   448
16   Otoxiep87   416
17   Josedin   410
18   Salvarani   404
19   LightBing   388
19   Safebet   388
21   Kazistuta   385
22   Scrool07   379
22   LosBrolin   379
24   GPBlanco   374
25   BlackBandit222   362
26   Leadbelly   361
27   Armchair   355
28   Search   346
29   Flo   323
30   MellowVelo   305
31   Nathanptz   302
32   Vladimir   281
33   NorthAmericanScum   267
34   RoteLaterne   259
35   Comodoro   191
   SoLastYear   153
   CollectiveWisdom   440

About halfway through: the remaining races are, on average, of a higher status than those already raced, and on those grounds, might be expected to yield more points, but we always see a big change in the selection of riders, and teams, that score after Paris-Roubaix. 

E3 on Friday, Gen-Wevelgem on Sunday: races coming thick and fast.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 27, 2019, 19:22
The Joel/search team :win
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on March 27, 2019, 21:51
My riders only collect points for finishing races, that's pretty disappointing especially for big name sprinters in a pan flat race.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 28, 2019, 08:01
Durbridge was not an expensive pick for his 13 teams, but they would have been confident in him getting more than the 22 points he accumulated prior to this collarbone injury.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Mellow Velo on March 29, 2019, 14:11
 First Durbridge and now Vanmarcke.
It's going to be another "Cancellara" disaster year for me. :(
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 29, 2019, 16:20
My hopes have issues now. Was hoping Durbo would have a solid season.

Stybar doing nicely though
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on March 29, 2019, 21:30
First Durbridge and now Vanmarcke.

Yes, both started the season well. What's Vanmarckes problem? He was always solid.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 29, 2019, 21:47
Race 11/21: E3 Harelbeke

STYBAR Zdenek   1st, 220pts for Just Some Guy, LightBing and Tobydawq
VAN AERT Wout   2nd, 132 for 15
VAN AVERMAET Greg   3rd, 112 for BlackBandit222
BETTIOL Alberto   4th, 96 for 17
POLITT Nils   6th, 76 for Search
TRENTIN Matteo   7th, 66 for 15
NAESEN Oliver   8th, 58 for SemirS

plus 11 riders placed 11th-30th, and 22 other finishers.

A huge winning margin for the team that is Sky-ing this game.

1   Tobydawq   574 (Stybar, Van Aert, Bettiol, Trentin, Langeveld (35) and 5 fivers; 80 Green pts)
2   LightBing   352 (Stybar, Bettiol, Benoot (21) and 3 fivers; 50)
3   Chiron   320 (Van Aert,Bettiol, Trentin, Cort (16) and 2 others; 35)
4   Scrool07   276 (Van Aert, Bettiol, Benoot, Plankaert (12) and 3 others; 25)
5   Madrazo   265 (15)
6   Josedin   263 (10)
7   AmisVelo   255 (5)
8   PremierAndrew   248 (3)
9   JustSomeGuy   243 (2)
10   SemirS   225 (1)
11   ThePirate81   220
12   Bminchow   213
13   Flo   195
14   Otoxiep87, Salvarani   188
16   Kazistuta   187
17   Joelsim   182
18   Triley36, Leadbelly   180
20   GPBlanco   155
21   Search   153
22   Postmanhat   152
23   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Del1962   147
25   BlackBandit222, Nathanptz   142
27   MellowVelo   137
28   Laarsland   134
29   LosBrolin   128
30   RoteLaterne   126
31   Armchair   116
32   Vladimir, Comodoro   91
34   Safebet   76
35   NorthAmericanScum   33
   SoLastYear   29
   CollectiveWisdom   309

Green Points

Toby's domination now extends to this one as well.  Chiron and Scrool also move up, and LightBing is in the top ten.

1   Tobydawq   242.38
2   JustSomeGuy   175.13
3   Chiron   165.95
4   Otoxiep87   141.63
5   Laarsland   141
6   LightBing   120.04
7   Bminchow   114.5
8   Scrool07   105.04
9   SemirS   98.42
10   Leadbelly   80.54


Standings
An already impressive lead is massively increased.  The podium is unchanged, but Premier Andrew adds 2 more steps forward to recent progress behind that, and Madrazo, Amis Velo and LightBing are new names in the top ten, the last of these on the back of a 10 point rise.

1   Tobydawq   1455
2   Chiron   1099
3   SemirS   822
4   PremierAndrew   806
5   Bminchow   783
6   Joelsim   757
7   Madrazo   755
8   JustSomeGuy   751
9   LightBing   740
10   AmisVelo   719
11   Blues_in_the_Bottle   701
12   Del1962   682
13   Josedin   673
14   ThePirate81   668
15   Scrool07   655
16   Triley36   652
17   Laarsland   636
18   Postmanhat   606
19   Otoxiep87   604
20   Salvarani   592
21   Kazistuta   572
22   Leadbelly   541
23   GPBlanco   529
24   Flo   518
25   LosBrolin   507
26   BlackBandit222   504
27   Search   499
28   Armchair   471
29   Safebet   464
30   Nathanptz   444
31   MellowVelo   442
32   RoteLaterne   385
33   Vladimir   372
34   NorthAmericanScum   300
35   Comodoro   282
   SoLastYear   182
   CollectiveWisdom   749

Gent-Wevelgem on Sunday: surely the game can't be decided already.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 29, 2019, 21:52
Wow last year winner was 1500 ish I think
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 30, 2019, 00:25
Wow last year winner was 1500 ish I think

It is not quite that scary a score he is racking up: final top 5 in 2018 was
1   Madrazo   2314
2   The_Asian   2308
3   Hakkie   2307
4   Armchair   2277
5   Nathanptz   2274


After E3 last year (11th race then, as now)
1   Laarsland   1048
2   Russell23   1037
3   Armchair   1030
4   Nathanptz   980
5   Hakkie   976

so Toby is way clear of that schedule, and while Chiron's score would have been top of this 12 months ago, Semir (now 3rd) would only have been 15th.

If he carries on at this rate, Toby will have the 4 seasons title sown up before the spring game is done.

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 31, 2019, 20:31
Race 12/21: Gent-Wevelgem

Managers need a good reason to spend 750 points + on a rider in this game, and no one thought that Kristoff, Degenkolb or Van Poppel provided sufficient reason.  If they don't follow up their results today with something else good, that might have been a fair judgement (although  I dare say there will be more expensive riders that were picked scoring less by the end of the game)  We certainly got some of the good scorers into our teams though.

NAESEN Oliver   3rd, 112pts for SemirS
VAN DER POEL Mathieu   4th, 96 pts for 13 teams
PETIT Adrien   6th, 76 pts for Otoxiep87
TRENTIN Matteo   7th, 66 for 15 teams
DEBUSSCHERE Jens   10th, 46 for 3

Between us, we also selected 11 more of the top 30, plus 16 lower, 5 point, finishers.



And look who is lurking in 3rd on the day, with no less than 9 of his riders adding to his ridiculously high total...

1   Joelsim   226 (Van der Poel, Trentin, Kung (21pts) Rowe (18), Gaviria (15) and 2 5s; 80 Green points)
2   SemirS   225 (Naesen, Van der Poel, Langeveld (10), Van Aert (7); 50 GPts)
3   Tobydawq   217 (Van der Poel, Trentin, Rowe, Langeveld, Van Aert, 4 fivers; 35 GPts)
4   ThePirate81   199 (Van der Poel, Trentin, Rowe, Gilbert, 1 fiver; 25)
5   Chiron   179 (15)
6   Search   163 (10)
7   Otoxiep87   152 (5)
8   PremierAndrew   151 (3)
9   Madrazo   146 (2)
10   Salvarani   145 (1)
11   AmisVelo, Del1962   136
13   Kazistuta   135
14   Bminchow   134
15   Flo   131
16   Blues_in_the_Bottle   129
17   Armchair   124
18   Triley36   123
19   RoteLaterne   114
20   LosBrolin   108
21   Nathanptz   95
22   Comodoro, Safebet   94
24   Vladimir   92
25   Laarsland   74
26   Scrool07   65
27   NorthAmericanScum   59
28   Leadbelly   54
29   BlackBandit222   49
30   LightBing, Postmanhat   45
32   Josedin   35
33   JustSomeGuy   33
34   MellowVelo   30
35   GPBlanco   22
   SoLastYear   13
   CollectiveWisdom   106

Green Points

Toby extends his lead, Chiron moves up to second, SemirS jumps 4, and Joelsim comes from just outside the top 10 to 4th.

1   Tobydawq   277.38
2   Chiron   180.95
3   JustSomeGuy   175.13
4   Joelsim   154.49
5   SemirS   148.42
6   Otoxiep87   146.63
7   Laarsland   141
8   LightBing   120.04
9   Bminchow   114.5
10   Scrool07   105.04



Standings

Toby's lead gets still bigger, in an unchanged podium. Joelsim in 4th is up 2 places, and The Pirate joins the top ten on the strength of a 6 place jump (matched by Search in a more modest position in the table)  Blues in the Bottle reappears in the top ten.

1   Tobydawq   1672
2   Chiron   1278
3   SemirS   1047
4   Joelsim   983
5   PremierAndrew   957
6   Bminchow   917
7   Madrazo   901
8   ThePirate81   867
9   AmisVelo   855
10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   830
11   Del1962   818
12   LightBing   785
13   JustSomeGuy   784
14   Triley36   775
15   Otoxiep87   756
16   Salvarani   737
17   Scrool07   720
18   Laarsland   710
19   Josedin   708
20   Kazistuta   707
21   Search   662
22   Postmanhat   651
23   Flo   649
24   LosBrolin   615
25   Armchair   595
25   Leadbelly   595
27   Safebet   558
28   BlackBandit222   553
29   GPBlanco   551
30   Nathanptz   539
31   RoteLaterne   499
32   MellowVelo   472
33   Vladimir   464
34   Comodoro   376
35   NorthAmericanScum   359
   SoLastYear   195
   CollectiveWisdom   855

Dwars door Vlaanderen on Wednesday, then his big brother Ronde van next Sunday. 
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on April 02, 2019, 21:13
I'm 31 in this game, in the youth game and the 2017 emerging game. I'd be glad if I could mention the CQ game too.  :S :D
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 07, 2019, 17:03
Someone should have told me this was missing: I composed it here, and copied it onto CN, on Wednesday evening, but somehow forgot to press 'post' here.

Race 13/21: Dwars door Vlaanderen

VAN DER POEL Mathieu   1st, 180pts   13 teams
PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   4th, 78pts for Kazistuta and Vladimir
BENOOT Tiesj   5th, 70 for LightBing and Scrool07
ROWE Luke   6th, 62 for 25 teams
LAMPAERT Yves   8th, 46 for 3 teams
HAUSSLER Heinrich   10th, 36 for 8 teams

and we also had between us 8 more of the top 25 and 31 five pointers


Probably largely due to the popularity of the winner, this race has been beaten in terms of points yielded only by the E3 Harelbeke (though should be passed on Sunday)

1   Madrazo   304 (Van der Poel, Rowe, Haussler, Roelandts and 3 fivers; 80 points for green jersey)
2   Search   302 (Van der Poel, Rowe, Keukeleire (30), Pollitt (10) and 4 fivers; 50 pts)
3   Armchair   293 (Van der Poel, Rowe, Haussler and 3 fivers; 35)
4   Joelsim   271 (25)
5   Tobydawq   267 (15)
6   PremierAndrew   266 (10)
7   AmisVelo, Del1962, ThePirate81   257 (3.33 each)
10   Triley36   206 (1)
11   Chiron   205
12   Blues_in_the_Bottle   200
13   SemirS   197
14   Kazistuta, Laarsland   169
16   Scrool07   152
17   Leadbelly   148
18   Vladimir   144
19   Salvarani   134
20   Flo   130
21   RoteLaterne   129
22   Comodoro   113
23   JustSomeGuy   103
24   Otoxiep87   100
25   NorthAmericanScum   98
26   BlackBandit222, Josedin   92
28   LightBing   85
29   Safebet   83
30   Postmanhat   82
31   MellowVelo   78
32   LosBrolin   72
33   Nathanptz   43
34   GPBlanco   36
35   Bminchow   30
   SoLastYear   20
   CollectiveWisdom   88

Green points

Madrazo gets into the top ten, and Joelsim moves up one place on what would be a very tight podium if it were not for Toby.

1   Tobydawq   292.38
2   Chiron   180.95
3   Joelsim   179.49
4   JustSomeGuy   175.13
5   SemirS   148.42
6   Otoxiep87   146.63
7   Laarsland   141
8   LightBing   120.04
9   Madrazo   118.42
10   Bminchow   114.5


Standings

This is about as close as races last year in the Junior category: Chiron in 2nd is closer to 10th place than first, but is nevertheless well clear of third.
That third spot has a new occupant, Joelsim moving up one place, and although there are no new entries in the top ten, 4 other members of it move up a bit.  Search moved up 9 places, but Armchair pips him with an 11 place jump.

1   Tobydawq   1939
2   Chiron   1483
3   Joelsim   1254
4   SemirS   1244
5   PremierAndrew   1223
6   Madrazo   1205
7   ThePirate81   1124
8   AmisVelo   1112
9   Del1962   1075
10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1030
11   Triley36   981
12   Search   964
13   Bminchow   947
14   Armchair   888
15   JustSomeGuy   887
16   Laarsland   879
17   Kazistuta   876
18   Scrool07   872
19   Salvarani   871
20   LightBing   870
21   Otoxiep87   856
22   Josedin   800
23   Flo   779
24   Leadbelly   743
25   Postmanhat   733
26   LosBrolin   687
27   BlackBandit222   645
28   Safebet   641
29   RoteLaterne   628
30   Vladimir   608
31   GPBlanco   587
32   Nathanptz   582
33   MellowVelo   550
34   Comodoro   489
35   NorthAmericanScum   457
   SoLastYear   215
   CollectiveWisdom   943
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 07, 2019, 18:51
Race 14/21: Ronde van Vlaanderen

A popular winner, but the rest of the podium went unselected, for very different reasons.

BETTIOL Alberto   1st, 280pts   17 teams
VAN DER POEL Mathieu   4th, 125   13 teams
POLITT Nils   5th, 112 for Search
NAESEN Oliver   7th, 90 for SemirS
BENOOT Tiesj   9th, 70 for LightBing and Scrool
VAN AVERMAET Greg   10th, 62 for BlackBandit
Plus 11 more of the top 30, and 31 five point finishers.


Toby didn't break the game record for one race, as he had hoped for, but still topped the table by a healthy margin...
1   Tobydawq   543 (Bettiol, Van der Poel, Van Aert (38), Langeveld (34), Vandenburgh (24), Trentin (22), Rowe (10) and 2 fivers) 80 Green pts
2   Madrazo   487 (Bettiol, Van der Poel, Van Aert, Vanmarcke (14), Rowe and 4 fivers) 50
3   AmisVelo   486 (Bettiol, Van der Poel, Van Aert, Van Baarle (28), Rowe and 1 fiver) 35
4   PremierAndrew   482  (Bettiol, Van der Poel, Van Aert, Vanmarcke, Rowe and 3 fivers) 25
5   Chiron   470 15 G pts
6   Joelsim   452    10
7   ThePirate81   437    5
8   Armchair   425   3
9   Scrool07   408    2
10   Leadbelly   383   1
11   Flo   381
12   LightBing   379
13   Otoxiep87   354
15   Kazistuta, Search   351
17   Laarsland   349
14   Josedin   353
18   Salvarani   332
19   SemirS   301
20   Triley36   230
21   Del1962   188
22   Blues_in_the_Bottle   178
23   BlackBandit222   139
24   RoteLaterne   128
25   Bminchow   103
26   GPBlanco   100
27   Safebet   84
28   Postmanhat   82
29   Nathanptz   76
30   Comodoro   75
31   MellowVelo   72
32   Vladimir   66
33   NorthAmericanScum   49
34   LosBrolin   46
35   JustSomeGuy   30
   SoLastYear   24
   CollectiveWisdom   402

Green Points
I introduced this thinking we might get some close competition, maybe featuring someone other than those in the hunt for the main game: little did I know...
Madrazo moves up 4 places

1   Tobydawq   372.38
2   Chiron   195.95
3   Joelsim   189.49
4   JustSomeGuy   175.13
5   Madrazo   168.42
6   SemirS   148.42
7   Otoxiep87   146.63
8   Laarsland   141
9   LightBing   120.04
10   Bminchow   114.5

Standings
If this were a boxing match...

The lead extends still further, now over 500 points.  Just off the podium, Premier Andrew, Madrazo and Amis Velo all make progress, and Search and Armchair Cyclist show up in the top 10.  Scrool and LightBing, both just outside the top ten, each rise 7 places.

1   Tobydawq   2482
2   Chiron   1953
3   Joelsim   1706
4   PremierAndrew   1705
5   Madrazo   1692
6   AmisVelo   1598
7   ThePirate81   1561
8   SemirS   1545
9   Search   1315
10   Armchair   1313
11   Scrool07   1280
12   Del1962   1263
13   LightBing   1249
14   Laarsland   1228
15   Kazistuta   1227
16   Triley36   1211
17   Otoxiep87   1210
18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1208
19   Salvarani   1203
20   Flo   1160
21   Josedin   1153
22   Leadbelly   1126
23   Bminchow   1050
24   JustSomeGuy   917
25   Postmanhat   815
26   BlackBandit222   784
27   RoteLaterne   756
28   LosBrolin   733
29   Safebet   725
30   GPBlanco   687
31   Vladimir   674
32   Nathanptz   658
33   MellowVelo   622
34   Comodoro   564
35   NorthAmericanScum   506
   SoLastYear   239
   CollectiveWisdom   1345

Scheldeprijs on Wednesday, Spreadsheet on Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 10, 2019, 17:37
Race 15/21: Scheldeprijs

No joy in "his" race for the 7 teams who have chosen Kittel, but some teams have gained something.
BOECKMANS KRIS   6th, 48pts for Chiron
PHILIPSEN Jasper   9th, 30 for 9 teams
CAPIOT Amaury   15th, 11 for 8 teams
NAESEN Lawrence    16th, 10 for Tobydawq and Laarsland
MCLAY Daniel   17th, 9 for Joelsim
PLANCKAERT Baptiste   18th, 8   4 teams
and 2 five pointers

1   Chiron   78 (Boeckmans & Philipsen) 80 Green Points
2   Bminchow   41 (Philipsen and Capiot)  50
3   Joelsim   39(Philipsen and McLay) 35
4   ThePirate81   35 (Philipsen and (Philipsen and Van Stayen) 25
5   Otoxiep87, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Josedin, BlackBandit222, NorthAmericanScum   30  7 each
10   Laarsland   21   1
11   Search   16
12   LightBing, Armchair, Nathanptz, GPBlanco   11
16   Tobydawq   10
17   Madrazo ,Scrool07, AmisVelo,    8
21   Kazistuta   5
22   The rest   0
   SoLastYear   16
   CollectiveWisdom   0


Green Points
Chiron narrows the gap, but it is still nearly 100 points.  In the lower part of the top ten, Otoxiep overtakes SemirS, but Bminchow overtakes both of those and 2 others. 

1   Tobydawq   372.38
2   Chiron   275.95
3   Joelsim   224.49
4   JustSomeGuy   175.13
5   Madrazo   168.42
6   Bminchow   164.5
7   Otoxiep87   153.63
8   SemirS   148.42
9   Laarsland   142
10   LightBing   120.04


Standings
Normally, is the team in secoond is top scorer, and the leader is way down the field, we would dwell on a narrowing of the gap.  This year is not normal.  Rather underwhelmingly, the highest placed riser, and joint biggest (2 place) jump of the day with BitB immediately behind him, is Otoxiep87 all the way down in 15th.

1   Tobydawq   2492
2   Chiron   2031
3   Joelsim   1745
4   PremierAndrew   1705
5   Madrazo   1700
6   AmisVelo   1606
7   ThePirate81   1596
8   SemirS   1545
9   Search   1331
10   Armchair   1324
11   Scrool07   1288
12   Del1962   1263
13   LightBing   1260
14   Laarsland   1249
15   Otoxiep87   1240
16   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1238
17   Kazistuta   1232
18   Triley36   1211
19   Salvarani   1203
20   Josedin   1183
21   Flo   1160
22   Leadbelly   1126
23   Bminchow   1091
24   JustSomeGuy   917
25   Postmanhat   815
26   BlackBandit222   814
27   RoteLaterne   756
28   LosBrolin   741
29   Safebet   725
30   GPBlanco   698
31   Vladimir   674
32   Nathanptz   669
33   MellowVelo   622
34   Comodoro   564
35   NorthAmericanScum   536
   SoLastYear   255
   CollectiveWisdom   1345

The last ride for many of the selected riders on Sunday in Paris-Roubaix.

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 14, 2019, 19:04
Race 16/21: Paris-Roubaix

GILBERT Philippe   1st, 280pts for Los Brolin, Nathanptz and ThePirate81
POLITT Nils   2nd, 170 for Search
LAMPAERT Yves   3rd, 145 for Laarsland, Leadbelly and Otoxiep87
VANMARCKE Sep   4th, 125 for 16 teams
SENECHAL Florian   6th, 100 for Leadbelly and Salvarani
TEUNISSEN Mike   7th, 90 for 3 teams
STYBAR Zdenek   8th, 80 for 3 teams
LANGEVELD Sebastian   10th, 62 for 6 teams
plus 12 more of the top 30 and 18 five pointers

5 of the top ten is a fine performance for Leadbelly:
1   Leadbelly   537 (Lampaert, Vanmarcke, Senechal, Teunissen, Langeveld and 3 fivers) 80 green points
2   LosBrolin   415 (Gilbert, Vanmarcke and 2 fivers) 50 G pts
3   Search   379 (Politt, Vanmarcke, Langeveld, Keukeleire (7) and 3 fivers) 35
4   Nathanptz   327   25
5   Laarsland   318    15
6   ThePirate81   295   10
7   RoteLaterne   272   5
8   Vladimir   268    3
9   SemirS   249    2
10   LightBing   220     1
11   NorthAmericanScum   204
12   Madrazo   203
13   Tobydawq   200
14   Kazistuta   199
15   Flo   186
16   Otoxiep87   184
17   GPBlanco   177
18   PremierAndrew   165
19   Safebet   162
20   Salvarani   158
21   MellowVelo   155
22   JustSomeGuy   128
23   BlackBandit222   115
24   Triley36   109
25   Comodoro   80
26   Blues_in_the_Bottle   79
27   Joelsim   74
28   Bminchow   62
29   AmisVelo   57
30   Armchair   53
30   Postmanhat   53
32   Del1962   45
33   Scrool07   42
34   Josedin   40
35   Chiron   35
   SoLastYear   164
   CollectiveWisdom   187

Green points

1   Tobydawq   372.38
2   Chiron   275.95
3   Joelsim   224.49
4   JustSomeGuy   175.13
5   Madrazo   168.42
6   Bminchow   164.5
7   Leadbelly   161.54
8   Laarsland   157
9   Otoxiep87   153.63
10   SemirS   150.42

Laarsland overtakes 2 teams, but is in turn overtaken by Leadbelly as he enters the top ten.

Standings

The lead gets bigger still, while the strength of Chiron's hold of second place is shown by still having a decent margin after being last on the day.  It is Madrazo's turn to sit in third (up 2 places) and Pirate81 has had a 3 place rise to 4th.  Leadbelly is the only new member of the top 10, and has the biggest jump of the day by some distance (13 places, 2nd best was 5) 

1   Tobydawq   2692
2   Chiron   2066
3   Madrazo   1903
4   ThePirate81   1891
5   PremierAndrew   1870
6   Joelsim   1819
7   SemirS   1794
8   Search   1710
9   Leadbelly   1663
9   AmisVelo   1663
11   Laarsland   1567
12   LightBing   1480
13   Kazistuta   1431
14   Otoxiep87   1424
15   Armchair   1377
16   Salvarani   1361
17   Flo   1346
18   Scrool07   1330
19   Triley36   1320
20   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1317
21   Del1962   1308
22   Josedin   1223
23   LosBrolin   1156
24   Bminchow   1153
25   JustSomeGuy   1045
26   RoteLaterne   1028
27   Nathanptz   996
28   Vladimir   942
29   BlackBandit222   929
30   Safebet   887
31   GPBlanco   875
32   Postmanhat   868
33   MellowVelo   777
34   NorthAmericanScum   740
35   Comodoro   644
   SoLastYear   419
   CollectiveWisdom   1532

So, who have we selected for the hillier races to come? 
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on April 15, 2019, 22:41
Good that at least my team finished the cobbled races as they began.

I have some guys racing: Boom, van Baarle and Trentin Amstel, Haussler de Brabantse Pijl. Unfortunately no Kittel in Frankfurt so he was a crap pick.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: search on April 16, 2019, 12:36
Haussler was also confirmed to to Frankfurt today. Some as Politt, who is my hope for the race (which I'd tend to say is too hard for Kittel now anyway).
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 17, 2019, 18:59
Race 17/21: Brabantse Pijl

Very enjoyable race, and not only because my riders were not hopeless.

VAN DER POEL Mathieu   1st, 140pts   13 teams
WELLENS Tim   3rd, 72pts for Just Some Guy
BETTIOL Alberto    6th, 48 for 17 teams
GASPAROTTO Enrico   7th, 42 for 2
KREUZIGER Roman   15th, 11 for 2
VAKOC Petr   27th 5 for 15

1   Armchair   204 (Van der Poel, Bettiol, Kreuziger, Vakoc)   80 Green pts
2   AmisVelo, Chiron, Joelsim, ThePirate81, Tobydawq   193 (Van der Poel, Bettiol, Vakoc)  27 green pts each
7   Madrazo, PremierAndrew   188 (Van der Poel, Bettiol)    4 each
9   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Del1962, Search, SemirS, Triley36   140     0.6 each
14   Otoxiep87   90
15   JustSomeGuy   77
16   MellowVelo   58
17   Josedin, Leadbelly, LightBing   53
20   Flo, Kazistuta, Laarsland, Salvarani, Scrool07   48
25   BlackBandit222, Bminchow, LosBrolin, Safebet   5
29   The rest   0
29   Collective Wisdom   53


Green jersey
The top three here were all among the 5 teams in joint second.  No changes in position for anyone in the top ten, so the big news is that I am up to 11th!

1   Tobydawq   399.38
2   Chiron   302.95
3   Joelsim   251.49
4   JustSomeGuy   175.13
5   Madrazo   172.42
6   Bminchow   164.5
7   Leadbelly   161.54
8   Laarsland   157
9   Otoxiep87   153.63
10   SemirS   151.02


Standings

The top six all scored within 5 points of each other today.  Amis Velo moving up one spot is the only positive movement in the top ten, and four teams have three place rises: Armchair, Triley, Blues in the Bottle and Del1962.

1   Tobydawq   2885
2   Chiron   2259
3   Madrazo   2091
4   ThePirate81   2084
5   PremierAndrew   2058
6   Joelsim   2012
7   SemirS   1934
8   AmisVelo   1856
9   Search   1850
10   Leadbelly   1716
11   Laarsland   1615
12   Armchair   1581
13   LightBing   1533
14   Otoxiep87   1514
15   Kazistuta   1479
16   Triley36   1460
17   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1457
18   Del1962   1448
19   Salvarani   1409
20   Flo   1394
21   Scrool07   1378
22   Josedin   1276
23   LosBrolin   1161
24   Bminchow   1158
25   JustSomeGuy   1122
26   RoteLaterne   1028
27   Nathanptz   996
28   Vladimir   942
29   BlackBandit222   934
30   Safebet   892
31   GPBlanco   875
32   Postmanhat   868
33   MellowVelo   835
34   NorthAmericanScum   740
35   Comodoro   644
   SoLastYear   419
   CollectiveWisdom   1585

Off to the Netherlands on Sunday.  Dropboxy McDropboxface (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)



Even with 4 races to go, that score of Tobydawq's puts previous winners in the shade, and although Chiron might feel that his second place is distant, it already bears comparison with previous winners.  There has been some score inflation as more races have been upgraded to WT status, but these are impressive scores.


2018
1   Madrazo   2314
2   The_Asian   2308
3   Hakkie   2307
4   Armchair   2277
5   Nathanptz   2274

2017
1   JustSomeGuy   2112
2   Kazistuta   1955
3   MellowVelo   1921
4   EvansIsTheBest   1904
5   AG   1783

2016
1   Vladimir   2378
2   Murrjt   2052
3   Kazistuta   2043
4   RoteLaterne   2007
5   Josedin   1926

2015
1 GeraintTooFast 1899
2 Search 1800
3 Asdfgh101 1732
4 DJW 1673
5 Karaev 1657

2014
1 Josedin 2197
2 Madrazo 2103
3  DJSprtsch 2075
4  JustSomeGuy 2060
5  asdfgh101 2030

2013
1   rmeloa   2186
2   mc_mountain   2099
3   Ruudz0r   1802
4   Fool on the Hill   1725
5   Hugo Koblet   1709

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 21, 2019, 19:59
Race 18/21: Amstel Gold

Wow: that was extraordinary.
And I don't only mean Tobydawq's moving into a positive score.

VAN DER POEL Mathieu   1st, 220 points for 13 teams
TRENTIN Matteo   10th, 40 for 15
VAN AVERMAET Greg   14th, 27 for 1
KREUZIGER Roman   18th, 18 for 2
also 2 more of the top 30, and 13 five pointers


1   ThePirate81   276 (Van der Poel, Trentin, Gilbert (6) and 2 fivers) 80 Green points
2   Chiron, Joelsim, Tobydawq   270 (Van der Poel, Trentin and 2 fivers) 36.67 green points each
5   Armchair   253 (Van der Poel, Kreuziger and 3 fivers) 15
6   AmisVelo   245 (Van der Poel and 5 fivers)  10
7   Triley36   240     5
8   Del1962, Madrazo, PremierAndrew   235   2 each
11   SemirS   233
12   Blues_in_the_Bottle   230
13   Search   225
14   Nathanptz   61
15   Bminchow, Otoxiep87   55
17   Comodoro, Flo, Kazistuta, RoteLaterne, Safebet, Salvarani   50
23   LosBrolin   46
24   Vladimir   45
25   BlackBandit222   37
26   MellowVelo   28
27   GPBlanco, Josedin   20
29   Scrool07   15
30   NorthAmericanScum   10
31   JustSomeGuy, Laarsland, Leadbelly, LightBing, Postmanhat   5
   SoLastYear   0
   CollectiveWisdom   60


Green points

Today's top four (those combining van der Poel and Trentin) are now the top 4 in this,  Pirate having jumped up from 13th.  Those are the only 4 teams with a chance of winning, and other than moving down to accommodate Pirate's rise, there were no other changes in the top ten.

1   Tobydawq   436.05
2   Chiron   339.62
3   Joelsim   288.16
4   ThePirate81   206.32
5   JustSomeGuy   175.13
6   Madrazo   174.42
7   Bminchow   164.5
8   Leadbelly   161.54
9   Laarsland   157
10   Otoxiep87   153.63

Standings

The Pirate81 moves up one place to the podium, and Armchair up 2 to get into the top ten, while Triley36, Blues in the Bottle and Del1962 share the biggest rise (4 places) honours for the second stage in a row (essentially by being the lowest placed MvdP teams).  Chiron is now the second highest scorer in the seven years of the game, and Tobydawq acheives a positive score, which no-one has come remotely near to before.

1   Tobydawq   3155
2   Chiron   2529
3   ThePirate81   2360
4   Madrazo   2326
5   PremierAndrew   2293
6   Joelsim   2282
7   SemirS   2167
8   AmisVelo   2101
9   Search   2075
10   Armchair   1834
11   Leadbelly   1721
12   Triley36   1700
13   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1687
14   Del1962   1683
15   Laarsland   1620
16   Otoxiep87   1569
17   LightBing   1538
18   Kazistuta   1529
19   Salvarani   1459
20   Flo   1444
21   Scrool07   1393
22   Josedin   1296
23   Bminchow   1213
24   LosBrolin   1207
25   JustSomeGuy   1127
26   RoteLaterne   1078
27   Nathanptz   1057
28   Vladimir   987
29   BlackBandit222   971
30   Safebet   942
31   GPBlanco   895
32   Postmanhat   873
33   MellowVelo   863
34   NorthAmericanScum   750
35   Comodoro   694
   SoLastYear   419
   CollectiveWisdom   1645
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on April 21, 2019, 21:18
Wow 1st team to be in profit as well.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 24, 2019, 17:50
Race 19/21: Fleche Wallonne

The best Ardennes riders tend to be very expensive for their returns within this game.  Having said that, Bjorn Lambrecht would have been a lot cheaper and yielded a lot more points than many of those that were selected by the managers here with these races in mind.

VANENDERT Jelle   9th, 52 pts for Comodoro and Scrool07
GASPAROTTO Enrico   10th, 46 for Mellow Velo and Otoxiep87
COSNEFROY Benoit   12th, 35 for Safebet
WELLENS Tim   17th, 19 for Just Some Guy
and 8 five pointers

Comodoro has been at the bottom of the table for some time, so good that he gets a moment in the sunlight.
1   Comodoro   62 (80 Green points)
2   Scrool07   52 (50)
3   MellowVelo   51 (35)
4   Otoxiep87   46 (25)
5   Safebet   45 (15)
6   JustSomeGuy   24 (10)
7   AmisVelo   15 (5)
8   Armchair, BlackBandit222, Bminchow, Del1962, Josedin, LightBing   10 (1 each)
14   Chiron, Flo, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, PremierAndrew, RoteLaterne, Salvarani, ThePirate81, Tobydawq, Triley36, Vladimir   5
28   The rest   0
   SoLastYear   0
   CollectiveWisdom   10

Green Points

Otoxiep is up  from 10th to 6th, and Scrool breaks into the top ten.

1   Tobydawq   436.05
2   Chiron   339.62
3   Joelsim   288.16
4   ThePirate81   206.32
5   JustSomeGuy   185.13
6   Otoxiep87   178.63
7   Madrazo   174.42
8   Bminchow   165.5
9   Leadbelly   161.54
10   Scrool07   157.04

Standings

Something of a stalemate, with no-one in the top 7 scoring more than 5 points.  Del1962 moving from 14th to 13th was the only change above the bottom 7 places: down there, Mellow Velo somehow finds a 2 place "leap".

1   Tobydawq   3160
2   Chiron   2534
3   ThePirate81   2365
4   Madrazo   2326
5   PremierAndrew   2298
6   Joelsim   2287
7   SemirS   2167
8   AmisVelo   2116
9   Search   2075
10   Armchair   1844
11   Leadbelly   1726
12   Triley36   1705
13   Del1962   1693
14   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1687
15   Laarsland   1620
16   Otoxiep87   1615
17   LightBing   1548
18   Kazistuta   1529
19   Salvarani   1464
20   Flo   1449
21   Scrool07   1445
22   Josedin   1306
23   Bminchow   1223
24   LosBrolin   1212
25   JustSomeGuy   1151
26   RoteLaterne   1083
27   Nathanptz   1062
28   Vladimir   992
29   Safebet   987
30   BlackBandit222   981
31   MellowVelo   914
32   GPBlanco   900
33   Postmanhat   873
34   Comodoro   756
35   NorthAmericanScum   750
   SoLastYear   419
   CollectiveWisdom   1655

It is very possible that the Liege and Frankfurt races are not much more influential in the game.

Dropbox Spreadsheet (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on April 27, 2019, 19:22
Lambrecht showed nothing at the beginning of the season but he was probably peaking for the Ardennes that nobody of us knew. But having him in my emerging 2017 game and the main game I'm obviously happy about his latest performances.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 28, 2019, 18:51
Race 20/21: Liege-Bastogne-Liege

This has been important for the game in the past, and there was some evidence of Ardennes friendly riders in some of the teams submitted, but none that have really featured when the racing got going.

GAUDU David   5th, 100 pts for Comodoro
WELLENS Tim   11th, 54 for Just Some Guy
BAKELANTS Jan   30th, 6 for LightBing, Premier Andrew and Vladimir
and just 8 of the 71 five pointers.

Comodoro, in the tradition of Kubler, Argentin, Rebellin, Valverde and Gilbert, does the Belgian Ardennes double..

1   Comodoro   100   80 Green points
2   JustSomeGuy   59   50 pts
3   LightBing   11    35 pts
4   Armchair, BlackBandit222, LosBrolin, MellowVelo, Safebet, ThePirate81   10    10 each
10   PremierAndrew, Vladimir   6    0.5 each
12   AmisVelo, Bminchow, Chiron, Del1962, Joelsim, Josedin, Leadbelly, Nathanptz, Search, Tobydawq, Triley36   5
23   The rest   0
   CollectiveWisdom   5

Green points

Early challenger JSG moves up one  to 4th, and Armchair Cyclist appears at the foot of the top ten.  Comodoro had 1/26th of a point last Sunday, and is only just outside the top ten now.

1   Tobydawq   436.05
2   Chiron   339.62
3   Joelsim   288.16
4   JustSomeGuy   235.13
5   ThePirate81   216.32
6   Otoxiep87   178.63
7   Madrazo   174.42
8   Bminchow   165.5
9   Leadbelly   161.54
10   Armchair   161.42

Standings

No changes in position at all.

1   Tobydawq   3165
2   Chiron   2539
3   ThePirate81   2375
4   Madrazo   2326
5   PremierAndrew   2304
6   Joelsim   2292
7   SemirS   2167
8   AmisVelo   2121
9   Search   2080
10   Armchair   1854
11   Leadbelly   1731
12   Triley36   1710
13   Del1962   1698
14   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1687
15   Laarsland   1620
16   Otoxiep87   1615
17   LightBing   1559
18   Kazistuta   1529
19   Salvarani   1464
20   Flo   1449
21   Scrool07   1445
22   Josedin   1311
23   Bminchow   1228
24   LosBrolin   1222
25   JustSomeGuy   1210
26   RoteLaterne   1083
27   Nathanptz   1067
28   Vladimir   998
29   Safebet   997
30   BlackBandit222   991
31   MellowVelo   924
32   GPBlanco   900
33   Postmanhat   873
34   Comodoro   856
35   NorthAmericanScum   750
   SoLastYear   419
   CollectiveWisdom   1660

It all ends on Wednesday in Frankfurt, although looking at the startlist, I am not expecting it to make much difference.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on May 01, 2019, 19:00
Race 21/21: Eschborn-Frankfurt  and the final stage of the game.

A few of our chosen riders still finding some points:

PLANCKAERT Baptiste   6th, 62pts for 4 teams
NAESEN Lawrence   8th, 46 for 2
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   14th, 22 for 1
NAESEN Oliver   16th, 18 for 1
CORT NIELSEN MAGNUS   18th, 14 for 1
plus 8 five pointers

1   LosBrolin, Madrazo   67 (Planckaert and a fiver, 65 Green points each)
3   AmisVelo, Scrool07   62 (Planckaert but no fiver, 30 Green points each)
5   Laarsland   56 (L Naesen and 2 fivers, 15 G pts)
6   Tobydawq   46 (10)
7   Del1962   32 (5)
8   SemirS   18 (3)
9   Chiron   14 (2)
10   Josedin, JustSomeGuy, LightBing, Vladimir   10 (0.25 each)
14   Armchair, Comodoro, GPBlanco, Leadbelly, Nathanptz, Otoxiep87, Postmanhat, PremierAndrew, RoteLaterne, Safebet, Salvarani, Search, ThePirate81, Triley36   5
29   Everyone else   0
   SoLastYear   5
   CollectiveWisdom   0

Green points

Madrazo makes a late jump to 4th in this category, and Laarsland and Scrool07 do enough to get into the top ten at the last.  The top two, as in the main game, have not really been in question for some time.


1   Tobydawq   446.05
2   Chiron   341.62
3   Joelsim   288.16
4   Madrazo   239.42
5   JustSomeGuy   235.38
6   ThePirate81   216.32
7   Scrool07   187.04
8   Otoxiep87   178.63
9   Laarsland   172
10   Bminchow   165.5
11   Leadbelly   161.54
12   Armchair   161.42
13   Comodoro   160.04
14   LightBing   157.29
15   LosBrolin   156
16   SemirS   154.02
17   AmisVelo   132.75
18   Search   128.02
19   PremierAndrew   117.42
20   Blues_in_the_Bottle   83.18
21   Safebet   81
22   Kazistuta   80.04
23   Del1962   59.35
24   BlackBandit222   59.07
25   MellowVelo   57.54
26   Nathanptz   45.04
27   Josedin   43.32
28   Salvarani   36.04
29   NorthAmericanScum   30.61
30   Postmanhat   25.5
31   Triley36   24.02
32   GPBlanco   15.04
33   RoteLaterne   7.54
34   Vladimir   5.79
35   Flo   1.54

Final standings

Only 4 teams moved up at all today, and while Scrool07 was the only one to manage a two place jump, far more significant was Madrazo's move to take the final step on the podium.

1   Tobydawq   3211
2   Chiron   2553
3   Madrazo   2393
4   ThePirate81   2380
5   PremierAndrew   2309
6   Joelsim   2292
7   SemirS   2185
8   AmisVelo   2183
9   Search   2085
10   Armchair   1859
11   Leadbelly   1736
12   Del1962   1730
13   Triley36   1715
14   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1687
15   Laarsland   1676
16   Otoxiep87   1620
17   LightBing   1569
18   Kazistuta   1529
19   Scrool07   1507
20   Salvarani   1469
21   Flo   1449
22   Josedin   1321
23   LosBrolin   1289
24   Bminchow   1228
25   JustSomeGuy   1220
26   RoteLaterne   1088
27   Nathanptz   1072
28   Vladimir   1008
29   Safebet   1002
30   BlackBandit222   991
31   MellowVelo   924
32   GPBlanco   905
33   Postmanhat   878
34   Comodoro   861
35   NorthAmericanScum   755
   SoLastYear   424
   CollectiveWisdom   1660

Congratulations to Tobydawq, who really has set a new standard for the game with a phenomenal score, to Chiron for what would, under other circumstances, have been a dominant and record breaking win, and to everyone who can claim to have had some sort of a victory, if only over their own expectations. 
Thanks to all who have taken part, and/or followed the updates.

I should manage some number crunching later this evening.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on May 01, 2019, 20:37
Tobydawq dominated the game like  #deceuninck. Congratulations for a undisputed win.  :cool
Thanks for putting up the game year after year and looking forward to the Giro.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on May 02, 2019, 00:12
564 different riders scored in at least one of these 21 races (although 26 of those among our selectionsfailed to do so).  The 18 highest scorers got more than 300:

VAN DER POEL Mathieu   901pts   13 teams
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   892   0
FUGLSANG Jakob   632   0
STYBAR Zdenek   573   3
NAESEN Oliver   546   1
KRISTOFF Alexander   542   0
BETTIOL Alberto   444   17
VAN AVERMAET Greg   443   1
ACKERMANN Pascal   428   0
VAN AERT Wout   418   15
POLITT Nils   400   1
GILBERT Philippe   396   3
LAMPAERT Yves   387   3
SCHACHMANN Maximilian   376   0
JUNGELS Bob   373   0
MATTHEWS Michael   319   0
SAGAN Peter   315   0
TRENTIN Matteo   301   15



28 of them yielded a profit (they got more points in these few weeks than in the whole of last year), although only a small number did so by more than a handful of points:

BETTIOL Alberto   394 points profit   17 teams
VAN DER POEL Mathieu   362   13
HALLER Marco   119   0
NAESEN Lawrence   105   2
DE GREEF Robbert (RIP)   57   0
LANGEVELD Sebastian   43   6
ROWE Luke   35   25
BOECKMANS KRIS   35   1
CLARKE Simon   29   0
SHALUNOV Evgeny   29   0

VAKOC Petr   20   15
VERGAERDE Otto   19   0

DE VREESE Laurens   17   1
SCHWARZMANN Michael   16   0
GABBURO Davide   13   0
CIMOLAI Davide   10   0

EISEL Bernhard   10   2
GAREL Adrien   10   0
MATHIS Marco   6   0
CARVALHO Andre Rodrigues   6   0
BAGIOLI Andrea   5   0
VERWILST Aaron   5   0
SIX Franklin   5   0
TIMMERMANS Justin   5   0
LEROUX Samuel   5   0
DE VRIES Hartthijs   5   0
SCHELLING Ide   2   0

PETIT Adrien   1   1

4 of these return an infinite percentage return, as their cost was 0 (Vakoc, Garel, Leroux, De Vries), but for the remainder of those in profit, their percentage return is:
VERGAERDE Otto   2000.0
BETTIOL Alberto   888.0
DE GREEF Robbert   311.1
NAESEN Lawrence   305.9
HALLER Marco   295.1
SHALUNOV Evgeny   261.1
CARVALHO Andre Rodrigues   220.0
EISEL Bernhard   200.0
VERWILST Aaron   200.0
SIX Franklin   200.0
TIMMERMANS Justin   200.0
BOECKMANS KRIS   183.3
VAN DER POEL Mathieu   167.2
MATHIS Marco   154.5
ROWE Luke   150.0
DE VREESE Laurens   139.5
LANGEVELD Sebastian   132.3
GABBURO Davide   125.5
SCHWARZMANN Michael   121.3
CLARKE Simon   112.0
CIMOLAI Davide   111.4
SCHELLING Ide   110.0
BAGIOLI Andrea   107.5
PETIT Adrien   100.6



The Impeccable Picks (you could not get more points from a cheaper rider) are:
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
BETTIOL Alberto
DE GREEF Robbert
SHALUNOV Evgeny
VAKOC Petr



The best possible team that I find on a brief shuffling of numbers is:

FUGLSANG Jakob   1045 cost   632 points earned
STYBAR Zdenek   724   573
VAN DER POEL Mathieu   539   901
CLARKE Simon   242   271
LANGEVELD Sebastian   133   176
ROWE Luke   70   105
HALLER Marco   61   180
NAESEN Lawrence   51   156
BETTIOL Alberto   50   444
BOECKMANS KRIS   42   77
DE GREEF Robbert   27   84
VAKOC Petr   0   20
for a total of 3619, but my first attempt at calculating this is nearly always surpassed when others turn their attention to it: please let me know if you find better.



Embarrassing errors could be defined in a number of ways: these are those who cost at least the average budget per rider, and were selected (with the number of teams that selected him) but scored less than 10% of their cost.
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   1
DUNBAR Eddie   1
FELLINE Fabio   6
HAIG Jack   1
KITTEL Marcel   7
KREUZIGER Roman   2
MOSCON Gianni   1
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   1
VAN DER HOORN Taco   3
VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem   1         (I had three of them!)



Tobydawq's winning team: (name/cost/score)
STYBAR Zdenek   724   573
VAN AERT Wout   597   418
TRENTIN Matteo   581   301
VAN DER POEL Mathieu   539   901
LANGEVELD Sebastian   133   176
VANDENBERGH Stijn   105   62
STANNARD Ian   103   35
ROWE Luke   70   105
NAESEN Lawrence   51   156
BETTIOL Alberto   50   444
BOOM Lars   37   20
VAKOC Petr   0   20
      
   2990   3211


The 13 teams who chose Van Der Poel are all in the top 14 places: Leadbelly in 11th is the only impostor in that group of Mathieuphiles.  Selecting Bettiol kept his teams out of the bottom third at least, and SemirS in 7th was the highest placed without him.



Some races, inevitably, contributed more to the game than others:

Ronde van Vlaanderen   9370 points granted to teams   16.8% of the total scored
E3   6724   12.1
Paris-Roubaix   6245   11.2
Dwars    5564   10.0
Gent-Wevelegem   3959   7.1
Amstel   3934   7.1
Omloop   3571   6.4
Milan-San Remo   3566   6.4
Brabantse Pijl    2889   5.2
Strade Bianche   2643   4.7
Denain   1838   3.3
De Panne   1295   2.3
KBK   866   1.6
Nokere   846   1.5
Handzame   585   1.1
Frankfurt   539   1.0
Scheldeprijs   471   0.8
Fleche   425   0.8
LBL   297   0.5
Drenthe   52   0.1
GP Industria   0   0.0
 

Here  (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)is the spreadsheet: please do share any other interesting findings.

And keep an eye out for the Giro game: I hope to do an initial launch posting tomorrow, but entries should really be held back until prices for that one are set on Monday.


Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Leadbelly on May 02, 2019, 09:14
Cheers Armchair for your work as always.

Let's hope that Toby forgets to enter one of the GTs and then we might stand a chance of catching him up in the combined end of year league. Maybe.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on May 02, 2019, 17:00
Aye thanks AC.

Top to no where for team JSG :)