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Title: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 20, 2019, 15:35
Two sunny days in a row, so we must be getting near to the northern European spring, and closer to this game.

You need:-
* to name 12 riders (male) who had a total between them of not more than 3000 CQ points earned in 2018;
* to send me this list by PM, here or at CN, with the riders names in CQ format;
* to do this before the start of the Omloop Het Nieuwsblat Men's race on Saturday 2nd March;
* to hope that your selected dozen do well in the European one day races of category HC or above in March, April and the first weekend of May.


I need:-
* to put up a spreadsheet to check your team (done here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i2p96qeygw63y8a/2019%20classics%20cq%20game%20selector.xls?dl=0));
* to check your teams and tell you if there is a problem (unless you leave it to the last morning to submit it, in which case you might end up one man short, or worse);
* to send my team to the first manager to submit their team (by the end of Thursday, but I haven't started thinking about it yet);
* to keep the list of entries reasonably up to date so that you know your entry has been received.  If 48 hours pass without your name appearing here, nudge me;
* to collate  points as awarded by CQ (https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rules.asp) for those races, hopefully on the evening of the day on which they occur;
* to make up any other rules on the fly.

The races:
1      02/03/2019      Omloop Het Nieuwsblad      1.WT3
2      03/03/2019      Kuurne - Brussel - Kuurne      1.HC
3      09/03/2019      Strade Bianche      1.WT3
4      10/03/2019      GP Industria & Artigianato - Larciano      1.HC
5      17/03/2019      Ronde van Drenthe      1.HC
6      20/03/2019      Nokere Koerse      1.HC
7      22/03/2019      Bredene Koksijde Classic (formerly Handzame Classic)      1.HC
8      23/03/2019      Milano - Sanremo      1.WT1
9      24/03/2019      GP de Denain - Porte du Hainaut      1.HC
10      27/03/2019      Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde      1.WT3 (upgraded from last year)
11      29/03/2019      E3 Harelbeke      1.WT2
12      31/03/2019      Gent - Wevelgem      1.WT2
13      03/04/2019      Dwars door Vlaanderen      1.WT3
14      07/04/2019      Ronde van Vlaanderen      1.WT1
15      10/04/2019      Scheldeprijs      1.HC
16      14/04/2019      Paris - Roubaix      1.WT1
17      17/04/2019      Brabantse Pijl      1.HC
18      21/04/2019      Amstel Gold Race      1.WT2
19      24/04/2019      Flèche Wallonne      1.WT2
20      28/04/2019      Liège - Bastogne - Liège      1.WT1
21      01/05/2019      Rund um den Finanzplatz Eschborn - Frankfurt      1.WT3 New entry

Entries to Friday morning (about 13 hours to go)
AmisVelo
Armchair
BlackBandit222
Blues_in_the_Bottle
Bminchow
Chiron
Comodoro
Del1962
Flo
GPBlanco
JustSomeGuy
Kazistuta
Laarsland
Leadbelly
LightBing
LosBrolin
Madrazo
MellowVelo
NorthAmericanScum
Otoxiep87
PremierAndrew
RoteLaterne
Safebet
Salvarani
Scrool07
Search
SemirS
ThePirate81
Triley36
Vladimir
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 20, 2019, 15:52
You will notice that I have added Rund um den Finanzplatz Eschborn - Frankfurt, which becomes the last race of the series and might rebalance the selections a little, leaving something other than the Ardennes puncheurs for the final resolution.  It is in the spring, it is a WT race: I think I had only omitted it in the past because I had a notion of the spring races finishing with Liege. 

With this and the upgrading of De Panne, there are more points available than last year. I haven't included any 1.1s, much as I like Tro-Bro Leon and Le Samyn: they rarely have any WT teams other than those of the host nation, and the expected teams (per PCS) include no more than 3 WT teams in any of them (Ardeche and Drome had 5 last year, but weren't included)

Last year the competition was very close, and really only decided in the last couple of hundred metres of Ans: be part of it, and by all means mention it on other cycling forums if the readers there might be interested.

Later edit: If I had included Eschborn - Frankfurt last year, the final podium, instead of being Madrazo - The Asian - Hakkie, would have been The Asian - Armchair Cyclist - Nathanptz, due to Sean De Bie (already a very successful popular pick in that game) picking up what would have been 70 more points.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on February 23, 2019, 18:24
Thanks for organizing that game year after year. I just submitted my boring but hopefully successful team.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 25, 2019, 18:20
So that those at CN don't get an advantage over those here, there was a request over there for last year's rider scores in these races: they can be found (with the exception of Eschborn-Frankfurt) on the final spreadsheet of last year's edition of this game last year here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjso3rpoipt4y4w/classics%20game%202018.xls?dl=0): you will probably want to look at the Rider Scores page, or the sheet for each race at the end of the workbook.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 26, 2019, 22:48
The first 13 teams have thrown up 68 different riders, 39 of whom are unique picks, and 2 are on more than half of the teams.

11 of them scored 200 or more in these races last year, 30 of them got 20 or fewer.
14 cost 500 pts or more, 16 cost 50 or less.

about 3 1/2 days left to get your team in.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on February 27, 2019, 10:19
Will do a team tonight.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on February 28, 2019, 19:57
Will do a team tonight.

Still missing from the entries list  :( so I can keep dreaming ...  :lol
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 01, 2019, 21:58
Last call: race starts at 11:45 CET (about 13 hours from this post).

31 teams, 113 riders, 59 unique picks, and now a third rider on more than half of the teams.

Scores from last year's races range from 634 to 1654 (I believe 2123 was the best possible), and the popularity scores go from 52 to 148 (the 12 most popular riders come in at 165)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 01, 2019, 22:41
Forgot, sorry. And I’m working in the morning and then picking up my son, so I’m out this year.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: search on March 02, 2019, 07:25
Forgot, sorry. And I’m working in the morning and then picking up my son, so I’m out this year.

:o

that's not acceptable. I did a quick 5 minute team with all of your favorites.

GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
TRENTIN Matteo
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
KÜNG Stefan
MARTIN Tony
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
THEUNS Edward
ROWE Luke
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
BOOM Lars
STALLAERT Joeri
EVENEPOEL Remco

Take this one, if you like
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 10:29
:o

that's not acceptable. I did a quick 5 minute team with all of your favorites.

GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
TRENTIN Matteo
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
KÜNG Stefan
MARTIN Tony
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
THEUNS Edward
ROWE Luke
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
BOOM Lars
STALLAERT Joeri
EVENEPOEL Remco

Take this one, if you like

Good enough for me: you're in, whether you like it or not.  (PM me changes if you want to)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 02, 2019, 13:39
:o

that's not acceptable. I did a quick 5 minute team with all of your favorites.

GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
TRENTIN Matteo
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
KÜNG Stefan
MARTIN Tony
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
THEUNS Edward
ROWE Luke
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
BOOM Lars
STALLAERT Joeri
EVENEPOEL Remco

Take this one, if you like

Nearly! If I make a couple of changes AC - will do now, only just got home,
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: search on March 02, 2019, 13:44
don't dare to touch Ventoso!
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 02, 2019, 14:02
I’d like to swap out

Plackaert
Ventoso
Martin
Evenepoel

And replace with:

Bettiol
Stannard
Jasper P
Vakoc
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 02, 2019, 14:22
That’s one point over so remove Stannard and add MCLAY Daniel
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 14:51
So with the Search/Joelsim selection finalised, we seem to be ready.

35 real teams, and one mathematical calculation.

As usual, teams in alphabetical order, riders in price order, and asterisks for the unique picks

Amis Velo
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   DEVENYNS Dries   *
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   THEUNS Edward   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAKOC Petr
   
Armchair Cyclist
   LUTSENKO Alexey   
   KREUZIGER Roman   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   THEUNS Edward   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAKOC Petr   

BlackBandit222
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   *
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   Durbridge Luke   
   VERMOTE Julien   *
   VANDENBERGH Stijn   
   ROWE Luke   
   KEISSE Iljo   
   DE VREESE Laurens   *
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

Blues in the Bottle
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   VAN DER HOORN Taco   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   THEUNS Edward   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   HOFSTEDE Lennard   *
   SPENGLER Lukas   *
   SELLIER Simon   *
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Bminchow
   VAN AERT Wout   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   DEBUSSCHERE Jens   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   THEUNS Edward   
   STANNARD Ian   
   BARBIER Rudy   
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

Chiron
   VAN AERT WOUT   
   CORT NIELSEN MAGNUS   *
   TRENTIN MATTEO   
   VAN DER POEL MATHIEU   
   PHILIPSEN JASPER   
   HALVORSEN KRISTOFFER   
   WAEYTENS ZICO   
   BETTIOL ALBERTO   
   BOECKMANS KRIS   *
   BOOM LARS   
   EVENEPOEL REMCO   
   VAKOC PETR   

Comodoro
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VANENDERT Jelle   
   VAN DER HOORN Taco   
   HAIG Jack   *
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   GAUDU David   *
   THEUNS Edward   
   HOFLAND Moreno   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   ROWE Luke   
   BOOM Lars   
   DE KLEIJN Arvid   *

Del 1962
   BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   *
   LUTSENKO Alexey   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   THEUNS Edward   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   ROWE Luke   
   LIETAER Eliot   *
   BOOM Lars   
   STALLAERT Joeri   
   EISEL Bernhard   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Flo
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   TEUNISSEN Mike   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   AFFINI Edoardo   

GPBlanco
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem   *
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   OSS Daniel   *
   CAVENDISH Mark   
   STANNARD Ian   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   BOOM Lars   
   DEVOLDER Stijn   *

Joelsim
   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   THEUNS Edward   
   MCLAY Daniel   *
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   STALLAERT Joeri   
   VAKOC Petr   

Josedin
   VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   *
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER HOORN Taco   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   THEUNS Edward   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   KEISSE Iljo   
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

JustSomeGuy

   WELLENS Tim   *
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   PLANCKAERT Edward   *
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   ROWE Luke   
   CLARKE William   *
   BOOM Lars   
   DE CLERCQ Bart   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

Kazistuta
   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAN STAEYEN Michael   

Laarsland
   LAMPAERT Yves   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   DEBUSSCHERE Jens   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   ROWE Luke   
   NAESEN Lawrence   
   BETTIOL Alberto   

Leadbelly
   LAMPAERT Yves   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   SENECHAL Florian   
   TEUNISSEN Mike   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

LightBing
   BENOOT Tiesj   
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   BAKELANTS Jan   
   STANNARD Ian   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   STALLAERT Joeri   
   DE CLERCQ Bart   
   VAKOC Petr   

Los Brolin
   GILBERT Philippe   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   ROWE Luke   
   GESBERT Elie   *
   WAEYTENS Zico   
   FILOSI Iuri   *
   VAKOC Petr   

Madrazo
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   STANNARD Ian   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   

Mellow Velo
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   KREUZIGER Roman   
   GASPAROTTO Enrico   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   EDMONDSON Alexander   *
   ROWE Luke   
   EISEL Bernhard   
   FEDRIGO Leonardo   *
   MUÑOZ GIRALDO Daniel Felipe   *
   VAKOC Petr   

Nathanptz
   GILBERT Philippe   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   STANNARD Ian   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   BOOM Lars   
   ASSELMAN Jesper   *

North American Scum
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   KÜNG Stefan   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   *
   EENKHOORN Pascal   *
   THEUNS Edward   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   ROWE Luke   
   BOOM Lars   

Otoxiep87
   LAMPAERT Yves   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   GASPAROTTO Enrico   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   PETIT Adrien   *
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   BIERMANS Jenthe   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   ALLEGAERT Piet   *
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Postmanhat
   MOSCON Gianni   *
   VAN AERT Wout   
   FELLINE Fabio   
   DE BUYST Jasper   *
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   VANDENBERGH Stijn   
   STANNARD Ian   
   GIBBONS Ryan   
   ROWE Luke   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Premier Andrew
   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   THEUNS Edward   
   BAKELANTS Jan   
   STANNARD Ian   
   SWIFT Ben   *
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Rote Laterne
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   STANNARD Ian   
   ROWE Luke   
   BOOM Lars   

Safebet
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   BONIFAZIO Niccolo   *
   COSNEFROY Benoit   *
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
   BARBIER Rudy   
   ROWE Luke   
   VAKOC Petr   

Salvarani
   LUTSENKO Alexey   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   DEBUSSCHERE Jens   
   SENECHAL Florian   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   HOFLAND Moreno   
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   AFFINI Edoardo   
   BOOM Lars   

Scrool07
   BENOOT Tiesj   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VANENDERT Jelle   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   THEUNS Edward   
   BACKAERT Frederik   *
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   BIERMANS Jenthe   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   VANHOUCKE Harm   *
   EVENEPOEL Remco   

Search
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   POLITT Nils   *
   KEUKELEIRE Jens   *
   KITTEL Marcel   
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   THEUNS Edward   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   VLIEGEN Loïc   
   ROWE Luke   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAN STAEYEN Michael   

SemirS
   NAESEN Oliver   *
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   HAYMAN Mathew   *
   DAVIS Cole   *
   DAVY Clément   *
   MORIN Emmanuel   *
   SCHREURS Hamish   *
   SHEEHAN Riley   *
   WAERENSKJOLD Soren   *

ThePirate81
   GILBERT Philippe   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   PHILIPSEN Jasper   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   ROWE Luke   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAN STAEYEN Michael   
   EVENEPOEL Remco   
   VAKOC Petr   

Tobydawq
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   VAN AERT Wout   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   VANDENBERGH Stijn   
   STANNARD Ian   
   ROWE Luke   
   NAESEN Lawrence   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   BOOM Lars   
   VAKOC Petr   

Triley36
   VAN AERT Wout   
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   VAN BAARLE Dylan   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   KITTEL Marcel   
   DUNBAR Eddie   *
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   
   CAVENDISH Mark   
   VAN ASBROECK Tom   
   AERTS Toon   *
   BOOM Lars   

Vladimir
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   TEUNISSEN Mike   
   ROELANDTS Jürgen   
   KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DURBRIDGE Luke   
   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   
   BAKELANTS Jan   
   HOFLAND Moreno   
   HAUSSLER Heinrich   
   RUSSO Clément   *


And that mathematical set, calculated as the team with the highest possible score from performances in this set of races last year:
So Last Year
   TERPSTRA Niki   *
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   SISR Frantisek   *
   CAPIOT Amaury   
   WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   
   DEMPSTER Zakkari   *
   PHINNEY Taylor   
   DUVAL Julien   *
   FENN Andrew   *
   LECROQ Jérémy   *
   DE BACKER Bert   *
   VAN RHEE Joey   *
I'll place this team at the bottom of the table, with the Collective Wisdom, but it's riders are included in the data to follow.  I think this is the highest scoring within budget: Hakkie, who normally corrects me on these things, hasn't entered this year, but if anyone can do better, please let me know.

Always interesting to see the teams coming in: Evenepoel's frequency of selection dropped off after news of his injury, but Rowe's didn't; Kittel was popular among the early teams, but his anonymity in UAE meant he was rare among later submissions, and the most expensive picks were all very rare.
A few team lists left me thinking "Damn, I should have thought of him," and a couple made me wonder "Why on Earth has he been selected?" (especially the rider who retired 6 weeks ago).

More later: I have some domestics to attend to, and the race is on hold on my TV.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 15:53
The Big Spends

The average budget per rider in 250 pts: to spend more than twice of that is an expression of some confidence in a rider, so who went for who?  19 of these riders were chosen; 5 teams found space for four of them, 8 teams combine three, 18 teams are two-headed, and 4 have a single leader.

Van Avermaet:      Blues in the Bottle   
         
Wellens   and Stybar:   Just Some Guy   
         
Terpstra   and Vanmarcke:   So Last Year   
         
Valgren   and Van Aert:   Josedin   
         
Moscon   and Van Aert:   Postmanhat   
         
Naesen   with Vanmarcke, Van Aert and Van der Poel:   SemirS   
         
Benoot   with Stybar and Vanmarcke:   LightBing   
   with Van Aert:   Scrool07   
         
Gilbert   with Vanmarcke:   LosBrolin   
   with Trentin and Van der Poel:   ThePirate81   
   with Trentin:   Nathanptz   
         
Lampaert   with Vanmarcke:   Laarsland and    Leadbelly
   with Trentin:   Otoxiep87   
         
Stybar   with Van Aert, Trentin and Van der Poel:   Tobydawq   
         
Boassen Hagen   with Lutsenko, Van Aert and Van der Poel:   Del1962   
         
Lutsenko   with Kreuziger and Van der Poel:   Armchair Cyclist   
   with Trentin:   Salvarani   
         
Gaviria   with Vanmarcke, Van Aert and Van der Poel:   PremierAndrew   
   with Vanmarcke and Trentin:   Kazistuta   
   with Trentin and Van der Poel:   Joelsim   
         
Vanmarcke   with Van Aert and Kreuziger:   MellowVelo   
   withVan Aert and Van der Poel:   Madrazo   
   with Van Aert:   GPBlanco   
   with Trentin:   RoteLaterne,  Safebet and Vladimir
   with Van der Poel:   Search   
   alone   NorthAmericanScum   
         
Van Aert   with Trentin, Cort and Van der Poel:   Chiron   
   with Trentin:   Bminchow   
   with Van der Poel:   AmisVelo, Blues in the Bottle and Triley36
         
Trentin:      Comodoro and   Flo
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 02, 2019, 15:55
1st and 3rd nice start
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 16:55
Rider Popularity

25: ROWE Luke
24: BOOM Lars
17: BETTIOL Alberto, THEUNS Edward
16: VANMARCKE Sep
15: TRENTIN Matteo, VAKOC Petr, VAN AERT Wout
13: DURBRIDGE Luke, EVENEPOEL Remco, VAN DER POEL Mathieu
11: ROELANDTS Jürgen
10: VAN BAARLE Dylan
Those in bold will be the Collective Wisdom team: I had to swap Van Baarle in to replace Van der Poel to keep it within budget.

9: PHILIPSEN Jasper, STANNARD Ian
8: CAPIOT Amaury, HAUSSLER Heinrich
7: KITTEL Marcel, PHINNEY Taylor, VAN ASBROECK Tom
6: FELLINE Fabio, LANGEVELD Sebastian, WISNIOWSKI Lukasz
5: HALVORSEN Kristoffer, KÜNG Stefan, VLIEGEN Loïc
4: PLANCKAERT Baptiste
3: BAKELANTS Jan, DEBUSSCHERE Jens, GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando, GIBBONS Ryan, GILBERT Philippe, HOFLAND Moreno, LAMPAERT Yves, LUTSENKO Alexey, STALLAERT Joeri, STYBAR Zdenek, TEUNISSEN Mike, VAN DER HOORN Taco, VAN STAEYEN Michael, VANDENBERGH Stijn
2: AFFINI Edoardo, BARBIER Rudy, BENOOT Tiesj, BIERMANS Jenthe, CAVENDISH Mark, DE CLERCQ Bart, EISEL Bernhard, GARCIA CORTINA Ivan, GASPAROTTO Enrico, KEISSE Iljo, KREUZIGER Roman, KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav, NAESEN Lawrence, PÖSTLBERGER Lukas, SENECHAL Florian, VANENDERT Jelle, WAEYTENS ZICO

The 60 unique picks are shown in the team lists.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 17:23
Team Popularity

Number in brackets is the number of unique picks in each team
1   Madrazo   172      (0)
2   RoteLaterne   161      (0)
3   PremierAndrew   156      (1)
4   AmisVelo   154      (1)
5   ThePirate81   151      (0)
6   Joelsim   147      (1)
6   Tobydawq   147      (0)
8   Armchair   145      (0)
8   Kazistuta   145      (0)
10   Leadbelly   141      (0)
11   Bminchow   140      (0)
12   Josedin   134      (1)
13   Chiron   130      (2)
13   NorthAmericanScum   130      (2)
15   Search   126      (2)
16   Del1962   120      (2)
16   Safebet   120      (2)
18   Salvarani   118      (0)
19   BlackBandit222   117      (3)
20   Nathanptz   116      (1)
21   JustSomeGuy   113      (3)
21   Laarsland   113      (0)
23   Scrool07   112      (2)
24   Comodoro   110      (3)
25   LightBing   108      (0)
26   GPBlanco   105      (3)
27   MellowVelo   104      (3)
27   Triley36   104      (2)
29   Flo   103      (0)
29   LosBrolin   103      (2)
31   Postmanhat   101      (2)
32   Vladimir   94      (1)
33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   91      (3)
34   Otoxiep87   81      (2)
35   SemirS   58      (8)
   CollectiveWisdom   191            
   SoLastYear   45      (8)

Scores from last year
Points earned in these races last year:
1   Laarsland   1654
2   LightBing   1643
3   MellowVelo   1468
4   Scrool07   1356
5   LosBrolin   1322
6   Leadbelly   1301
7   GPBlanco   1290
8   Josedin   1273
9   Vladimir   1244
10   Madrazo   1237
11   SemirS   1171
12   Bminchow   1168
13   Nathanptz   1135
14   Safebet   1122
15   RoteLaterne   1087
16   NorthAmericanScum   1033
17   Search   958
18   Tobydawq   916
19   BlackBandit222   895
20   PremierAndrew   880
21   Otoxiep87   857
22   Kazistuta   847
23   JustSomeGuy   845
24   Flo   839
25   Salvarani   828
26   Postmanhat   784
27   Chiron   779
28   ThePirate81   733
29   Armchair   718
30   Comodoro   714
31   Triley36   706
32   Blues_in_the_Bottle   693
33   Del1962   642
34   AmisVelo   634
35   Joelsim   448
   CollectiveWisdom   1252
   SoLastYear   2123

Previous performance is not necessarily an indicator of future performance, as they say on advertisements for financial products.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on March 02, 2019, 18:17
I think I have this one in the bag.

Like last year.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 02, 2019, 19:36
Race 1/21: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad

A good start to the series with an entertaining race, and for the game with a few decent scorers: 4 of the 5 riders in the decisive group were chosen for the game, albeit all fairly rare picks.

Top scorers
STYBAR Zdenek 1st, 180pts for JustSomeGuy, LightBing and Tobydawq
VAN AVERMAET Greg 2nd, 108 pts for BlackBandit222
WELLENS Tim 3rd, 92 pts for JustSomeGuy
LUTSENKO Alexey 4th, 78 pts for Armchair Cyclist, Del 1962 and Salvarani
LAMPAERT Yves 7th, 54 pts for 3 teams
GILBERT Philippe 8th, 46 points for 3 teams
TRENTIN Matteo 9th, 40 for 15 teams
NAESEN Oliver 10th, 36 for 1 team
plus 12 more of the top 25, getting more than minimum points, and 28 other finishers with 5 points


Team scores and, therefore, standings after 1 event
1   JustSomeGuy   290  (Stybar, Wellens, Durbridge (8), one fiver)
2   Tobydawq   279 (Stybar, Trentin, Van Aert (24), Langeveld (20), 3 fivers)
3   LightBing   205 (Stybar and 5 fivers)
4   BlackBandit222   169 (Van Avermaet, Van Baarle(22), De Vreese(16), Durbridge and 3 fivers)
5   Nathanptz   146 (Gilbert, Trentin, Van Baarle, Durbridge and 6 fivers)
6   Salvarani   139
7   Del1962   117
8   Bminchow   116
8   RoteLaterne   116
10   Otoxiep87   109
11   LosBrolin   106
12   Leadbelly   100
13   Flo   97
14   ThePirate81   96
15   Armchair   93
16   Laarsland   87
16   GPBlanco   87
16   Search   87
16   Kazistuta   87
20   Safebet   86
21   SemirS   85
22   Triley36   82
23   Chiron   79
24   Comodoro   77
25   Vladimir   74
26   Joelsim   69
27   Madrazo   65
28   Blues_in_the_Bottle   63
28   AmisVelo   63
30   NorthAmericanScum   55
31   Josedin   54
32   Postmanhat   52
33   Scrool07   49
34   MellowVelo   48
35   PremierAndrew   44
   CollectiveWisdom   115
   SoLastYear   36
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2019, 06:53
AC did I miss points for Edward PLANCKAERT or BOOM  ?

I had 2 5 pointers
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Flo on March 03, 2019, 08:49
Decent start despite only Trentin in top-10.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 11:47
AC did I miss points for Edward PLANCKAERT or BOOM  ?

I had 2 5 pointers
Yeah, you have both of them, and they both contributed to your 290 points, I either glanced too quickly at your page, or I forgot a number while moving from Spreadsheet to web edit box.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 16:33
Points will be low: first, second and fourth unpicked, third only on non-competing team So Last Year: we are down to Lampaert in 5th place before we get any proper scorers.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Flo on March 03, 2019, 16:53
Who is the rider that retired 6 weeks ago?
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2019, 18:16
23 points unless I missed a 5 point rider :win
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 18:23
Who is the rider that retired 6 weeks ago?
SemirS has Matthew Hayman, who I believe rode the TDU as his farewell, alongside a number of young pointless riders from teams unlikely to be invited to any of these races.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 18:35
23 points unless I missed a 5 point rider :win

Who do you think is your 5 pointer?  The spreadsheet has you down for 18.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2019, 18:41
Who do you think is your 5 pointer?  The spreadsheet has you down for 18.

VAN ASBROECK Tom 18

STYBAR Zdenek 5

I think
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 18:46
Stybar came 33rd: only the top 30 get points in an HC race.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 03, 2019, 18:48
Ohh I thought we use CQ ranking points he has 5 on the website

Edit no he didn't sorry my old eyes are not what they were or I was hoping :lol
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 20:00
Race 2/21  Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne
or was it 2018 LBL?

Only about 1/4 of the points that were earned yesterday (expensive men at the top, apart from Doull who was unfancied, and a lower ranked race)

Riders in the game:
TERPSTRA Niki   3rd, 72pts for the So Last Year team
LAMPAERT Yves   5th, 54pts for Laarsland, Leadbelly and Otoxiep87
SENECHAL Florian   6th, 48 for Leadbelly and Salvarani
KEUKELEIRE Jens   7th, 42 for Search
DE BUYST Jasper   9th, 30 for Postmanhat

Also 5 more of the top 20, and 4 of the five point scorers (only the top 30 get anything in HC races, whereas all finishers get at least 5 in the WT races)

Points today
1   Leadbelly   107 (Lampaert, Senechal and a fiver)
2   Otoxiep87   85 (Lampaert, Van Asbroek (18), Petit (8) and a 5er)
3   Laarsland   65 (Lampaert and Debusschere (11))
4   Salvarani   64 (Senechal, Debusschere and a 5er)
5   Search   54 (Keukeleire and Theuns(12))
6   Nathanptz, NorthAmericanScum   45
8   Postmanhat   30
9   Flo   25
10   Bminchow, GPBlanco, Triley36   23
13   JustSomeGuy, ThePirate81   18
15   Blues_in_the_Bottle,    Joelsim, Kazistuta, Madrazo, RoteLaterne, Vladimir   17
21   AmisVelo, Armchair, Comodoro, Del1962, Josedin, PremierAndrew, Scrool07   12
28   MellowVelo, Safebet   5
30   BlackBandit222, Chiron, LightBing, LosBrolin, SemirS, Tobydawq   0
   SoLastYear   72
   CollectiveWisdom   17

Standings
1   JustSomeGuy   308
2   Tobydawq   279
3   Leadbelly   207
4   LightBing   205
5   Salvarani   203
6   Otoxiep87   194
7   Nathanptz   191
8   BlackBandit222   169
9   Laarsland   152
10   Search   141
11   Bminchow   139
12   RoteLaterne   133
13   Del1962   129
14   Flo   122
15   ThePirate81   114
16   GPBlanco   110
17   LosBrolin   106
18   Triley36   105
18   Armchair   105
20   Kazistuta   104
21   NorthAmericanScum   100
22   Vladimir   91
22   Safebet   91
24   Comodoro   89
25   Joelsim   86
26   SemirS   85
27   Postmanhat   82
27   Madrazo   82
29   Blues_in_the_Bottle   80
30   Chiron   79
31   AmisVelo   75
32   Josedin   66
33   Scrool07   61
34   PremierAndrew   56
35   MellowVelo   53
   SoLastYear   108
   CollectiveWisdom   132

Yesterday's points are more than 80% of the total, so no surprise that the top 2 remain as they were.  Leadbelly jumps 9 places (matched by NAS further down the table) into third, and  Laarsland and Search also move (just) into the early top ten.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2019, 20:52
Green points

New this year, and if what I have done on the spreadsheet works, I'll incorporate it into the GT games as well.

Regardless of the status of the race, or how narrow or convincing the margin, managers are to be rewarded for their position in each race.  I will use the points scale that CQ give to the top ten finishers in a Tour de France stage (80, 50, 35, 25, 15, 10, 5, 3, 2, 1), and where two or more teams share a score, I will add the points and divide them, so the two teams that shared 6th today, I add 10 points for 6th to 5 for 7th, divide that total by 2, and award each manager 7.5 points in the Green Jersey contest.

The two daily winners share the lead:
1   JustSomeGuy   80
1   Leadbelly   80
3   Otoxiep87   51
4   Tobydawq   50
5   Laarsland   35
5   LightBing   35
5   Salvarani   35
8   BlackBandit222   25
9   Nathanptz   22.5
10   Search   15
11   NorthAmericanScum   7.5
12   Del1962   5
13   Postmanhat   3
14   Bminchow   2.83
15   RoteLaterne   2.5
16   Flo   2
17   GPBlanco   0.33
17   Triley36   0.33
19   All other teams   0

The spreadsheet is here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0): as ever, it will not move but I might not post the link in every update.  You will notice one other new feature in the spreadsheet although I haven't extracted anything from it in these opening posts: a page showing how many riders each team has in common with each other team (the most similar teams share 8 men). 

Maybe someone will check if they can find a better "So Last Year" combination than I could find: the data is on the 'Price' page.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 06, 2019, 00:50
ThePirate81 over at CN points out that Jasper Philipsen is now acknowledged as having finished 24th in Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne, having initially been omitted from the results.
So 5 points to teams with Philipsen (BlackBandit222, Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Chiron, Joelsim, Josedin, North American Scum, Otoxiep87, ThePirate81) : nobody picked the now 31st placed and therefore pointless Kasper Asgreen.

Changed scores marked*
1   JustSomeGuy   308
2   Tobydawq   279
3   Leadbelly   207
4   LightBing   205
5   Salvarani   203
6   Otoxiep87   199*
7   Nathanptz   191
8   BlackBandit222   174*
9   Laarsland   152
10   Bminchow   144* (up one place)
11   Search   141
12   RoteLaterne   133
13   Del1962   129
14   Flo   122
15   ThePirate81   119*
16   GPBlanco   110
17   LosBrolin   106
18   NorthAmericanScum   105* (up 3 places)
18   Triley36   105
18   Armchair   105
21   Kazistuta   104
22   Joelsim   91* (up 3 places)
22   Vladimir   91
22   Safebet   91
25   Comodoro   89
26   Blues_in_the_Bottle   85* (up 3 places)
26   SemirS   85
28   Chiron   84* (up 2 places)
29   Postmanhat   82
29   Madrazo   82
31   AmisVelo   75
32   Josedin   71*
33   Scrool07   61
34   PremierAndrew   56
35   MellowVelo   53
   SoLastYear   108
   CollectiveWisdom   132

It also changes the Green Jersey somewhat:
1   JustSomeGuy   80
1   Leadbelly   80
3   Otoxiep87   51
4   Tobydawq   50
5   LightBing   35
5   Salvarani   35
5   Laarsland   35
8   BlackBandit222   25
9   Nathanptz   20
10   Search   15
11   NorthAmericanScum   10*
12   Del1962   5
13   Bminchow   4.5*
14   Postmanhat   3
15   RoteLaterne   2.5
16   Flo   1

In an effort to not be too late with updates, I post as soon as I can after CQ put up the full finishers list
(I can't do much before that, which is usually quite a delay already), and I can't promise to always notice all subsequent alterations to the result sheet, so please do point it out if it happens on other races.  I will assume that CQ is (eventually) correct if results services vary, unless there is overwhelming evidence that they have made a mistake (although in my experience they are flexible and humble enough to acknowledge and change).  Maybe I should allow 24 hours or so after the final race before I declare a definite result.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 08, 2019, 22:24
1.) No LE SAMYN !?!?

2.) JSG might be kicking my as but atleast I’m ahead of Search for now.

3.) I was beginning to wonder if Philipsen was going to get me any results.

4.) Keisse deserves a result after being taken out in the KBK sprint, I guess no one feels sorry for him on International Women’s Day.

5.)This looks like a ton of work or some excellent Excel skills thank you ArmChair.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on March 08, 2019, 22:54
I knew I had a boring team!  :ohu

I do like Blackbandit22's approach and of course the Stybar teams.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 09, 2019, 12:48
I knew I had a boring team!  :ohu

I do like Blackbandit22's approach and of course the Stybar teams.

I like your choice of Trentin.  Not sure about Kittel & Haussler.

No pressure GVA ..... only the teams entire year relies on you!
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 09, 2019, 15:34
No-one picked the top 2, only Tobydawq has both Van Aert and Stybar, and only Scrool combines Van Aert and Benoot: one of them will probably be the top of this game.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 09, 2019, 19:44
Race 3/21 Strade Bianche

180 points won today, MSR as a stated goal, and the Ardennes to follow, maybe Alaphilippe will prove to be the key to success that nobody tried in this game.

Those in today's top ten that we did pick:
VAN AERT Wout   3rd, 92pts for 15 teams
STYBAR Zdenek   4th, 78 for JustSomeGuy, LightBing and Tobydawq
BENOOT Tiesj   5th, 70 for LightBing and Scrool
VAN AVERMAET Greg   6th, 62 for Black Bandit 222
LUTSENKO Alexey   7th, 54 for Armchair Cyclist, Del 1962 and Salvarani
WELLENS Tim   10th, 36 for JSG
also 4 more of the top 20, and 10 other 5 point finishers, were among our picks

Points today
1   Scrool07   181 (Van Aert, Benoot, Durbridge (14) and a fiver)
2   Tobydawq   180 (Van Aert, Stybar, 2 fivers)
3   LightBing   163 (Stybar, Benoot, 3 fivers)
4   Del1962   146 (Van Aert, Lutsenko)
5   JustSomeGuy   133 (Stybar, Wellens, Durbridge and a fiver)
6   MellowVelo   122
7   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Josedin   117
9   Postmanhat, Madrazo   111
11   AmisVelo   107
12   Chiron   102
13   Bminchow, PremierAndrew   97
15   GPBlanco, Triley36, SemirS   92
18   BlackBandit222   81
19   Armchair   75
20   Salvarani   59
21   Laarsland   54
22   Leadbelly   45
23   Kazistuta   39
24   Otoxiep87   35
25   Flo, Joelsim   30
27   NorthAmericanScum   25
28   Safebet   24
29   LosBrolin, Vladimir   19
31   Nathanptz, RoteLaterne   14
33   ThePirate81   10
34   Search,    Comodoro   5
   SoLastYear   5
   CollectiveWisdom   116

Green Jersey

Two second places beats any of the three winners in a race so far, even when paired with a fifth place.
1   Tobydawq   100
2   JustSomeGuy   95
3   Scrool07   80
3   Leadbelly   80
5   LightBing   70
6   Otoxiep87   51
7   Salvarani   35
7   Laarsland   35
9   Del1962   30
10   BlackBandit222   25

Standings
The three Stybar teams make up the podium, but Tobydawq becomes the top one of them. Del has a 9 place jump into the top ten, but that is as nothing compared with Scrool's 25 place leap from the bottom three to the top ten. 
1   Tobydawq   459
2   JustSomeGuy   441
3   LightBing   368
4   Del1962   275
5   Salvarani   262
6   BlackBandit222   255
7   Leadbelly   252
8   Scrool07   242
9   Bminchow   241
10   Otoxiep87   234
11   Laarsland   206
12   Nathanptz   205
13   Blues_in_the_Bottle   202
13   GPBlanco   202
15   Triley36   197
16   Postmanhat   193
16   Madrazo   193
18   Josedin   188
19   Chiron   186
20   AmisVelo   182
21   Armchair   180
22   SemirS   177
23   MellowVelo   175
24   PremierAndrew   153
25   Flo   152
26   RoteLaterne   147
27   Search   146
28   Kazistuta   143
29   NorthAmericanScum   130
30   ThePirate81   129
31   LosBrolin   125
32   Joelsim   121
33   Safebet   115
34   Vladimir   110
35   Comodoro   94
   SoLastYear   113
   CollectiveWisdom   248

I'm not expecting many points from the Industria e Artigeano (did that name from memory, almost certainly got it wrong) tomorrow, but there will be an update, and it is just as relevant to the Green Jersey competition as Paris-Roubaix.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 09, 2019, 20:04
Hmmm Tim verse some cx rider :lol

Nice gap on 3rd place for Dawg and myself
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on March 09, 2019, 20:51
I like your choice of Trentin.  Not sure about Kittel & Haussler.

No pressure GVA ..... only the teams entire year relies on you!

I did think of a GVA team too but wasn't too sure about his support from real life teammates. But in this game going top heavy almost always pays off.

Kittel has to win Scheldeprijs and Frankfurt then he's a good pick. It seems Haussler won't race that much so you are probably right.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 10, 2019, 15:04
Race 4/21: GP Industria & Artigianato (GP Larciano)
No selected rider in the top ten...

(An hour later)
still only the top ten available...

(bit later)
No chosen rider among the top 30 who get points

(later still)
No chosen rider among the 90 finishers.


I know I said that this would contribute just as much to the green jersey competition as any monument: it would if I averaged out the points and gave everyone 6.47, but if you don't mind, I don't think I'll bother.

Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 17, 2019, 18:00
Edward my man
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 17, 2019, 18:41
Edward my man

Not many managers with anything to celebrate today: your unique pick will take the spoils.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 17, 2019, 20:04
Race 5/21 Ronde van Drenthe

After the completely pointless GP Larciano last weekend, the Ronde van Drenthe didn't produce much more this week.  I guess that the WT teams have their eyes on Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico, so their riders, and our picks, are largely absent.

I guess with more races becoming WT, those that are still 1.HC get less attention.  We'll have some chat at the end of the game about how to select races for next year, but for now, I said it was in, so it is.

PLANCKAERT Edward   7th, 42 pts for Just Some Guy
DEMPSTER Zakkari    21st, 5 for Blues in the Bottle
SPENGLER Lukas    24th, 5 for So Last Year, and therefore not counted for Green Points
ALLEGAERT Piet   27th, 5 for Otoxiep87

Blues itB moves up 2 places to 11th, Otoxiep remains in 10th, and JSG retakes the lead, 24 ahead of Tobydawq rather than 18 down.

80 Green points to JSG, and 42.5 to the other two scorers. That means the points for positions 4-10 should be shared among the other 32 teams.  But rather than give them all 1.91 points, and on the same principle as I didn't give everyone 6.47 points last week, I'll take that amount off the three scores that were achieved. 
So that'll be 78.09 and 40.59.
1   JustSomeGuy   173.09
2   Tobydawq   100
3   Otoxiep87   91.59
4   Leadbelly   80
4   Scrool07   80
6   LightBing   70
7   Blues_in_the_Bottle   44.59
8   Salvarani   35
8   Laarsland   35
10   Del1962   30

Let's see whether Nokere Koerse on Wednesday is a bit more impactful on the scores.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 18, 2019, 05:51
I know you said after the game but it adds a dimension to the game trying to pick up points in lesser races as well.

I am biased at the moment ofc but that is why I picked my man Edward
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Blackbandit222 on March 20, 2019, 19:30
Man, I thought that was lining up to be a Matthieu Van Der Poel victory, now he’s probably out for the rest of the Classics!  The English commentator I had was unable to identity MVP for several minutes.  Every MTB and CX fan was probably slack jawed during this time as the most famous rider in the race in a National Championship kit no less lay unidentified in the fence.  Amazing how people can’t identify cross discipline cyclists.  (That said I’m unfamiliar with the winner)

Speaking of Cross Discipline riders I’m excited to see all the young Americans headed to Europe for the Classics over the next month including the US National team, Lux Jr squad, Arapahoe-Hincapie and Hagens Berman Axeon (in this race, recent alumnus finished 3rd).  But, recent winner of the Redlands final stage Quinn Simmons was a multi time mountain bike championship & International competitor at some sort of Telemark ski competition.  He transitioned to Road last year after contacting Roy Knickman and finished 3rd at Ghent Wevelgem and 7th at Roubaix as a first year Junior 17-18!  Wow the next Farrar or Hincapie ??!
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on March 20, 2019, 20:45
Man, I thought that was lining up to be a Matthieu Van Der Poel victory, now he’s probably out for the rest of the Classics!  The English commentator I had was unable to identity MVP for several minutes.  Every MTB and CX fan was probably slack jawed during this time as the most famous rider in the race in a National Championship kit no less lay unidentified in the fence.  Amazing how people can’t identify cross discipline cyclists.  (That said I’m unfamiliar with the winner)
MTB and CX notwithstanding, MvdP is the Dutch champion. A commentator should know who the various national champions are (definitely of the big nations, of which the Netherlands is one).
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 20, 2019, 21:03
Race 6/21 Nokere Koerse

This race might have had a much bigger effect on the game (and the classics season) than the points it has yielded, although more recent announcements suggest that Van Der Poel's  injuries are not as bad as feared (I thought Gerts' and Moschetti's falls looked even nastier) and his schedule might be unaffected.

PHILIPSEN Jasper   3rd, 72pts for 9 teams
DEBUSSCHERE Jens   9th, 30pts for Bminchow, Laarsland and Salvarani
NAESEN Lawrence   10th, 26 for Laarsland and Tobydawq
PLANCKAERT Baptiste   14th, 12 for 4 teams
ALLEGAERT Piet   18th, 8 for 1
DEMPSTER Zakkari   23rd, 5 for 1

1   Bminchow   102 (Philipsen & Debusschere) (80 Green Points)
2   Otoxiep87   80 (Philipsen and Allegaert) (50 GPts)
3   BlackBandit222, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Chiron, Joelsim, Josedin, NorthAmericanScum, ThePirate81   72 (13.57 G Pts each)
10   Laarsland   56 (Debusschere & Naesen) (1 GPt)
11   Salvarani   30
12   Tobydawq   26
13   AmisVelo, LosBrolin, Madrazo, Scrool07   12
17   All others   0
   SoLastYear   5
   CollectiveWisdom   0

Green Points
Otoxiep was 3rd, now 2nd, and Bminchow comes up from nowhere.

1   JustSomeGuy   173.09
2   Otoxiep87   141.59
3   Tobydawq   100
4   Bminchow   84.5
5   Leadbelly   80
5   Scrool07   80
7   LightBing   70
8   Blues_in_the_Bottle   58.16
9   BlackBandit222   38.57
10   Laarsland   36
11   Salvarani   35
12   Del1962   30
13   NorthAmericanScum   23.57
14   Nathanptz   20
15   Josedin   17.57
16   Search   15
17   Chiron   13.57
17   Joelsim   13.57
17   ThePirate81   13.57
20   MellowVelo   10
21   Postmanhat   4.5
22   RoteLaterne   2.5
23   Madrazo   1.5
24   Flo   1
25   Eleven other teams   0

Standings

The back and forth at the top of the table between Tobydawq and JSG continues: Toby's turn at the top, but only by 2 points.  Bminchow (5 places) and Ototxiep (4) have the most significant top ten rises, Blues in the Bottle and Laarsland enter the top ten, and further down, the biggest leaps are made by Joelsim (10 places), Pirate81 (11) and NAS(12).

1   Tobydawq   485
2   JustSomeGuy   483
3   LightBing   368
4   Bminchow   343
5   BlackBandit222   327
6   Otoxiep87   319
7   Salvarani   292
8   Blues_in_the_Bottle   279
9   Del1962   275
10   Laarsland   262
11   Josedin   260
12   Chiron   258
13   Scrool07   254
14   Leadbelly   252
15   Madrazo   205
15   Nathanptz   205
17   GPBlanco   202
17   NorthAmericanScum   202
19   ThePirate81   201
20   Triley36   197
21   AmisVelo   194
22   Joelsim   193
22   Postmanhat   193
24   Armchair   180
25   SemirS   177
26   MellowVelo   175
27   PremierAndrew   153
28   Flo   152
29   RoteLaterne   147
30   Search   146
31   Kazistuta   143
32   LosBrolin   137
33   Safebet   115
34   Vladimir   110
35   Comodoro   94
   SoLastYear   123
   CollectiveWisdom   248

A busy few days coming up: We're back here on Friday (Koksijde), Saturday (Milan-San Remo) and Sunday (Denain): one of those will be key.  I'd better treat the wife tomorrow...

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 22, 2019, 20:06
Race 7/21 Bredene Koksijde (but the spreadsheet still refers to Handzame)

Bit part players from our teams mainly, so not many teams taking anything here.

HALVORSEN KRISTOFFER    2nd, 84pts for 5 teams
NAESEN Lawrence   7th, 42 for 2 teams
BARBIER Rudy   10th, 26 for 2
BOECKMANS KRIS   16th, 10 for 1
FILOSI Iuri   17th, 9 for 1
KEISSE Iljo    29th, 5 for 2

1   Laarsland   126 (Halvorsen and Naesen, 80 Green Pts)
2   Safebet   110 (Halvorsen and Barbier, 50 Green Pts)
3   Chiron   94 (Halvorsen and Boeckmans, 35 Green Pts)
4   LosBrolin   93 (Halvorsen and Filosi, 25 Green Pts)
5   Postmanhat   84 (15 GPs)
6   Tobydawq   42 (10)
7   Bminchow   26 (5)
8   BlackBandit222, Josedin   5 (2.5 each)
10   All others   0 (0.04 G Pts each, so even I am off the mark)

Green Points
The top 2 didn't score today, but Laarsland is up from 10th to 3rd, and 2nd place on the day gives Safebet a top ten appearance with his first points.
1   JustSomeGuy   173.13
2   Otoxiep87   141.63
3   Laarsland   116
4   Tobydawq   110
5   Bminchow   89.5
6   Leadbelly   80.04
6   Scrool07   80.04
8   LightBing   70.04
9   Blues_in_the_Bottle   58.2
10   Safebet   50

Standings

For the first time, the lead is extended rather than swapped back, Tobydawq taking a lead into the first Monument.  Laarsland (op from 10th) and Bminchow finally break up the dominance of the Stybar teams. Chiron moves up 6 places to get into the top ten, and the rise of the day plaudits (16 places) are shared by Safebet and Los Brolin.
 
1   Tobydawq   527
2   JustSomeGuy   483
3   Laarsland   388
4   Bminchow   369
5   LightBing   368
6   Chiron   352
7   BlackBandit222   332
8   Otoxiep87   319
9   Salvarani   292
10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   279
11   Postmanhat   277
12   Del1962   275
13   Josedin   265
14   Scrool07   254
15   Leadbelly   252
16   LosBrolin   230
17   Safebet   225
18   Nathanptz   205
18   Madrazo   205
20   NorthAmericanScum   202
20   GPBlanco   202
22   ThePirate81   201
23   Triley36   197
24   AmisVelo   194
25   Joelsim   193
26   Armchair   180
27   SemirS   177
28   MellowVelo   175
29   PremierAndrew   153
30   Flo   152
31   RoteLaterne   147
32   Search   146
33   Kazistuta   143
34   Vladimir   110
35   Comodoro   94
   SoLastYear   123
   CollectiveWisdom   248


The biggest favourites for Milan-San Remo aren't picked for the game (with the exception of Gaviria), but the unpredictability of that race, and the higher number of points available, mean that we should expect considerable shake up in the table. 

Numbers on Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1daiq19hm81ieo/classics%20game%202019.xls?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 22, 2019, 20:22
Just have to survive tomorrow and still looking ok
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 23, 2019, 16:25
Only the first 12 from MSR up so far, but SemirS has Naesen as a unique pick, and has Van Aert.  Three riders, including leader Tobydawq, combine Van Aert with the other popular pick in the top ten, Trentin.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on March 23, 2019, 16:51
Just have to survive tomorrow and still looking ok

Might get a bit ugly :(
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 23, 2019, 19:20
Race 7/21: Milan - San Remo

Most of us had at least one of the top ten, because of 2 popular picks, but the top 5 on the day eluded all but one manager.

NAESEN Oliver   2nd, 170pts for SemirS
VAN AERT Wout   6th, 100pts for 15 teams
TRENTIN Matteo   10th, 62 for 15
OSS Daniel   13th, 42 for GPBlanco
CORT NIELSEN MAGNUS   15th, 34   1
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   16th, 32 for 33
TEUNISSEN Mike   18th, 28 for 3
POLITT Nils   27th, 10 for 1
plus 28 other finishers (out of 138: only 7 failed to finish) for 5 points each.

1   SemirS   275
2   Chiron   211
3   Tobydawq   182
4   Bminchow   172
5   GPBlanco   152
6   PremierAndrew   147
7   Josedin   130
8   MellowVelo   125
8   Madrazo   125
10   Joelsim   124
11   Blues_in_the_Bottle   120
11   Flo   120
13   Scrool07   115
13   AmisVelo   115
13   Del1962   115
13   Triley36   115
17   Kazistuta   114
18   Vladimir   110
19   Postmanhat   105
20   Otoxiep87   87
20   Salvarani   87
20   ThePirate81   87
20   RoteLaterne   87
24   Safebet   82
24   Comodoro   82
26   LosBrolin   77
26   Nathanptz   77
28   Leadbelly   58
29   NorthAmericanScum   35
30   Search   30
31   Armchair   25
31   Laarsland   25
33   BlackBandit222   20
33   JustSomeGuy   20
35   LightBing   15
   SoLastYear   15
   CollectiveWisdom   182


1   SemirS   275 (Naesen, Van Aert, and a 5 pointer: 80 Green Points)
2   Chiron   211 (Van Aert, Trentin, Cort and 3 fivers: 50 points)
3   Tobydawq   182 (Van Aert, Trentin and 4 fivers: 35 points)
4   Bminchow   172 (Van Aert, Trentin and 2 fivers: 25 points)
5   GPBlanco   152 (15)
6   PremierAndrew   147 (10)
7   Josedin   130 (5)
8   MellowVelo, Madrazo   125 (2.5 each)
10   Joelsim   124 (1)
11   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Flo   120
13   AmisVelo, Del1962, Scrool07, Triley36   115
17   Kazistuta   114
18   Vladimir   110
19   Postmanhat   105
20   Otoxiep87, Salvarani, ThePirate81, RoteLaterne   87
24   Safebet, Comodoro   82
26   LosBrolin, Nathanptz   77
28   Leadbelly   58
29   NorthAmericanScum   35
30   Search   30
31   Armchair, Laarsland   25
33   BlackBandit222, JustSomeGuy   20
35   LightBing   15
   SoLastYear   15
   CollectiveWisdom   182

Green Points

Chiron and SemirS are the new entries in the top ten:

1   JustSomeGuy   173.13
2   Tobydawq   145
3   Otoxiep87   141.63
4   Laarsland   116
5   Bminchow   114.5
6   Chiron   98.57
7   SemirS   80.04
7   Scrool07   80.04
7   Leadbelly   80.04
10   LightBing   70.04

Standings

The close battle has turned into a dominant lead, with the closest contender this morning being second last on the day. It is now combining Van Aert and Trentin, (rather than having Stybar) that defines the podium, but having Stybar as well provides a large margin of lead. Josedin and Del1962 move into the top ten, but their rises are as nothing to that of Semir, who has jumped 22 places to 5th.

1   Tobydawq   709
2   Chiron   563
3   Bminchow   541
4   JustSomeGuy   503
5   SemirS   452
6   Laarsland   413
7   Otoxiep87   406
8   Blues_in_the_Bottle   399
9   Josedin   395
10   Del1962   390
11   LightBing   383
12   Postmanhat   382
13   Salvarani   379
14   Scrool07   369
15   GPBlanco   354
16   BlackBandit222   352
17   Madrazo   330
18   Joelsim   317
19   Triley36   312
20   Leadbelly   310
21   AmisVelo   309
22   LosBrolin   307
22   Safebet   307
24   MellowVelo   300
24   PremierAndrew   300
26   ThePirate81   288
27   Nathanptz   282
28   Flo   272
29   Kazistuta   257
30   NorthAmericanScum   237
31   RoteLaterne   234
32   Vladimir   220
33   Armchair   205
34   Comodoro   176
34   Search   176
   SoLastYear   138
   CollectiveWisdom   430

A few scraps of points, but I suspect not much more, to be picked up in GP Denain tomorrow.