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Title: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 12, 2019, 11:27
 Paris - Roubaix 2019, April 14th.
(https://www.procyclingstats.com/images/logo/bn/ct/paris-roubaix-2017.jpg)


The Hell of the North, A Sunday in Hell, L'enfer du Nord, Paris-Roubaix: a race with many names, but a race like no other; a race known for one thing. For that, I turn to tv and France 3's promo.

https://youtu.be/aLXCFGKJDaw

 There are older races, there are longer races and there are hillier races, but none more legendary. ‘The Hell of the North’ tag comes from the war ravaged countryside which the parcours traversed during the years after The Great War. And the race is, of course, a throwback to those days a century and more ago when horses, carts and boot leather traversed the tracks and cobbles.

(https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/ultimate-roubaix-920.jpg)

The upcoming edition amounts to 257 kilometres with 54.5 kilometres on pavé.  It generally heads in a Northerly direct, which, this year means that the riders will also be faced with a mostly nagging ( and cold) headwind from the North East. However, as can be seen from the map, a few key secteurs pavé will likely have a cross-tailwind.

(https://img.aso.fr/core_app/img-cycling-prx-jpg/prx19-carte-web/0922/0:0,1200:1650-2400-0-70/a75e7)


(https://img.aso.fr/core_app/img-cycling-prx-jpg/prx19-profil-secteurs-bat/0921/0:0,1500:798-960-0-70/04bf7)

There are now 29 secteurs of the famous cobbles (kasseien in Flemish, pavé in French, kinderkoppen in Dutch slang); counting down from the 900 metres at Troisville - prior to which there’s a huge positioning battle at warp speed just under 100K in - to the final symbolic 300 metres of neat sets laid outside the Roubaix velodrome, named Espace Crupeland. In total then, there are around 54 kilometres [20% of race distance] over the granite blocks rather than over tarmac or concrete.

The 29 cobbled sectors of Paris–Roubaix:
29: Troisvilles to Inchy (km 97.5 — 0.9 km) **
28: Briastre to Viesly (km 108.5 — 3 km) ****
27: Viesly to Quiévy (km 101.5 — 1.8 km) ***
26: Quiévy to Saint-Python (km 116 - 3.7 km) ****
25: Saint-Python (km 118.5 — 1.5 km) **
24: Vertain to Saint-Martin-sur-Écaillon (km 127.5 — 2.3 km) ***
23: Verchain-Maugré to Quérénaing (km 136.5 — 1.6 km) ***
22: Quérénaing to Maing (km 140.5 — 2.5 km) ***
21: Maing to Monchaux-sur-Ecaillon (km 142.5 — 1.6 km) ***
20: Haveluy to Wallers (km 156.5 — 2.5 km) ****
19: Trouée d'Arenberg (km 164.5 — 2.3 km) *****
18: Wallers to Hélesmes (km 170 - 1.6 km) ***
17: Hornaing to Wandignies (km 179 - 3.7 km) ****
16: Warlaing to Brillon (km 185 - 2.4 km) ***
15: Tilloy to Sars-et-Rosières (km 188.5 — 2.4 km) ****
14: Beuvry to Orchies (km 194 — 1.4 km) ***
13: Orchies (km 199 — 1.7 km) ***
12: Auchy to Bersée (km 206.5 — 2.7 km) ****
11: Mons-en-Pévèle (km 212 - 3 km) *****
10: Mérignies to Avelin (km 215.5 - 0.7 km) **
9: Pont-Thibault to Ennevelin (km 220 - 1.4 km) ***
8: Templeuve — L'Épinette (km 224 - 0.2 km) *
8: Templeuve — Moulin-de-Vertain (km 225 - 0.5 km) **
7: Cysoing to Bourghelles (km 232 - 1.3 km) ***
6: Bourghelles to Wannehain (km 234.5 - 1.1 km) ***
5: Camphin-en-Pévèle (km 239.5 - 1.8 km) ****
4: Carrefour de l'Arbre (km 242.5 - 2.1 km) *****
3: Gruson (km 244 — 1.1 km) **
2: Willems to Hem (km 251 — 1.4 km) ***
1: Roubaix (km 256 — 0.3 km) *

Most wins
1DE VLAEMINCK Roger4-4-1
2BOONEN Tom4-2-1
3MOSER Francesco3-2-2
4VAN LOOY Rik3-2-1
5CANCELLARA Fabian3-2-1
6MERCKX Eddy3-2-0
7MUSEEUW Johan3-1-2
8REBRY Gaston3-0-2
9LAPIZE Octave3-0-0
10DUCLOS-LASSALLE Gilbert2-2-0

Peter Sagan  *sk is the defending champion. A perfect blend of positioning, bike handling, power and tactical nous are essential to win the Hell of the North. But let’s not forget a large slice of luck either. Given the conditions, mechanical issues are unavoidable in Roubaix, the timing of which can be the difference between winning and losing.  Greg Van Avermaet  *be is a master in controlling the above factors. Zdenek Stybar’s  *cz Hell of the North palmares is equally impressive.  Alexander Kristoff  *no has both the strength and endurance to win, but is yet to see these qualities reflected by results. John Degenkolb  *de is a similar type of rider, who has won the event. Of the several young guns in with a chance of victory, Wout van Aert  *be seems the most likely candidate, possessing all the required skill set to do well.
 However, in truth the race is as wide open as it has been for many years. 




Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: search on April 12, 2019, 13:36
really looking forward to this! :)

Tom Boones says the winner will come from an early attack by the way. Editions with no clear favorite would always be the most dangerous for this to happen

https://sporza.be/nl/2019/04/10/boonen-in-et-over-asgreen/
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 12, 2019, 14:09
Here's a very compelling promo of its own. Nicely done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6RfwzwgRU
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 12, 2019, 14:30
It looks like another dry Paris-Roubaix.  :(

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1116329072798457856

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It looks like another dry Paris-Roubaix. It hasn’t rained in the race since 2002. Northern France is a wet place – riders from the region often move south in search of better training conditions – but as explored in a previous post here, early April is actually the driest period of the year for the area. Even the forecast for wind earlier this week looks to have faded away.
 :angry

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Direct Energie is now Total Direct Energie. As you might know the French energy provider was taken over by the oil major last year and now it’s being rebranded. The team is playing its part in this with Paris-Roubaix as the first race for the new team. The timing of the change has been done to coincide with Paris-Roubaix which says something about the race and the team’s use as a communication and branding matter.
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/db526e4598c836616ac7e9f8dbdeffb8/tumblr_ppsq67J94a1ropreyo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: search on April 12, 2019, 17:12
As there was some talk about the work which was done on the cobbles a while ago, and some "fear" among fans that it would make the race less hard...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/work-begins-to-mortar-joints-of-arenberg-paris-roubaix-cobbles/

...now, after a recon, Oliver Naesen said, "it's still horrible", while van Aert mentioned "they are even worse than in my memory".

https://lessportsplus.dhnet.be/cyclisme/la-trouee-est-toujours-aussi-horrible-qu-avant-5caf94c39978e263338bdbaf

so we should be fine :D
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 12, 2019, 18:00
https://twitter.com/nyvelocity/status/1116728933389668353
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 12, 2019, 18:15
So we're going from this...

https://twitter.com/ulif/status/1116463551831531526

To these...

(http://www.pinarello.com/en/bike-2018/road/dogma-k10s-disk/698-white-orange/image_large)

(http://www.pinarello.com/en/bike-2018/road/dogma-k10s-disk/features/a-new-era/image)

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CONSTANT CONTROL

The Bluetooth LE and ANT+ connectivity allows the rider to sync with the dedicated Garmin App. To control the suspension settings but also to view the ride’s statistics.
(http://www.pinarello.com/en/bike-2018/road/dogma-k10s-disk/features/constant-control/image)

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S-Works Roubaix – Sagan Collection
$12,000.00
 :S

(https://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Specialized/?layer=0&wid=1920&hei=640&fmt=jpg&src=is{Specialized/background-white?wid=1920&hei=640}&layer=1&src=is{Specialized/94420-01_ROUBAIX-SW-DI2-SAGAN-COLL-UNDRX_HERO?hei=600&wid=920&$hybris-pdp-hero$})

(https://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Specialized/ROAD-2553_PDP_ProductCarousel_1_1920x640?$hybris-pdp-hero-exp$)

And yet, somehow...

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/ef/bb/dcefbbd017fe305aa312eda4a6493b47.jpg)
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Mellow Velo on April 12, 2019, 18:21
 No we ain't, we're going from this:

(https://www.sterba-bike.cz/media/produkty/835/DSC_9456.jpg)

(https://www.sterba-bike.cz/media/produkty/835/DSC_9457.jpg)

(https://www.sterba-bike.cz/media/produkty/835/DSC_9465.jpg)

 :D ;)

Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 12, 2019, 19:05
They've got their marketing down, I'll give them that.

Some fantastic imagery throughout this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrBVKGRI97k


Too bad they forgot to install shocks on the bottle cage @3:58. :-x

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And for something a bit more Rock & Roll...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz3D_dTHQUo

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Even more! (Damn, these things are popping up like wildflowers today.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjExYEtVb4

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Short and sweet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AMpG8GuF3Q
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: LukasCPH on April 12, 2019, 20:18
So we're going from this...

To these...

And yet, somehow...

I saw the Arenberg cobbles on Monday. And that was post-renovation.
And I say, anything that makes those less bone-crumblingly shaky is but a small mercy to the riders. Even this full-suspension thingy (I don't understand how that should work, and am skeptical) will only make them feel like Flemish cobbles instead of a field that someone dropped boulders on. It won't give you anything resembling a smooth feeling. It will still be brutal, no matter what bike you ride.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: t-72 on April 12, 2019, 22:09
However, in truth the race is as wide open as it has been for many years. 

OK, so Tom Boonen predicts an early breakaway can go in? Is Hayman still around  :shh

More seriously, who are the riders you think can go all the way if they slip into the morning break? (The last time I watched this race in full I think there really wasn't a morning break, was that last year already?)

I guess many of the pro-conti teams are sort of expected to be there, but a rider like #direct #total Terpstra would never be let go up the road anyway, but what happens if there's an old gorilla[1] in the break? Wouldn't that be the kind of guy who could "do a Hayman" ?

His results in this race are quite good, better than #uae Kristoff, and his best year so far -  was last year.  :o
 1. #arkea Arkea - the team name, same root as Arkeikum - the oldest eon of earth. Then it must be an old gorilla!
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: search on April 13, 2019, 00:55
I think it's more the post-Arenberg break he was thinking about (Dillier came 2nd from the early break last year btw), in similar fashion as #garmin Vansummeren won, for example. Greipel could be a potential candidate for such kind of move indeed. Also #quickstep Asgreen & Senechal, #ag2r Vandenbergh, #movistar Sütterlin, #katusha Politt, #vital de Backer, #movistar Roelandts, #total Gaudin, #mitchelton Bauer and so on, I would think.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: LukasCPH on April 13, 2019, 05:35
The longest hour: How the monuments’ greater distance sets them apart (https://www.velonews.com/2019/04/analysis/the-longest-hour-how-the-monuments-greater-distance-sets-them-apart_492504)

The distance is a factor in the Monuments. Especially when you add >50 km of evil pavé.
A good analysis by VeloNews on why some riders (e.g. EBH) fade away after the fifth hour of racing while others (e.g. Kristoff) only really come into their own by then.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Echoes on April 13, 2019, 10:59
Here's a very compelling promo of its own. Nicely done.


Is there a women's version of Paris-Roubaix now?

By the way, a Paris-Roubaix preview needs "A Sunday in Hell" ;):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxBTVU9JDrA
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 13, 2019, 12:27
Is there a women's version of Paris-Roubaix now?

There isn't yet. It's just Specialized's way of promoting the narrative in the hopes of a creating women's version of the race.

It's interesting that on one hand, there are always people calling the race too dangerous and feel that it presents unnecessary challenges, while on the other hand there are some who are clamoring for the women to be exposed to those same dangers.

I don't really have much of an opinion on the matter either way, but I suppose if enough women want the race, there's no reason to deny them the opportunity.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 13, 2019, 13:29
A good read.

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1117012168317313029

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Weather: dry but cold at the start. A light headwind for much of the race, 20km/h from the NE which means a 3/4 tailwind for the latter seconds of pavé which should help to split things up.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: search on April 13, 2019, 14:24
first star ratings:

*be Het Nieuwsblad
:*:*:*:*:* van Avermaet
:*:*:*:* van Aert, Sagan
:*:*:* Lampaert, Naesen, van Baarle
:*:* Vanmarcke, Benoot, Gilbert, Stuyven
:* Démare, Kristoff, Rowe, Stybar, Degenkolb

*lu le Quotidien:
:*:*:*:*:* van Avermaet, Sagan, Kristoff
:*:*:*:* Naesen, Degenkolb, Trentin, Lampaert, van Aert, Stuyven
:*:*:* Gilbert, Stannard, Rowe, Vanmarcke, Langeveld, Politt, Mohoric, EBH
:*:* Vandenbergh, Phinney, Démare, Moscon, Küng, Roelandts, Oss, Greipel, van Baarle, Gaudin
:* Pedersen, Theuns, Petit, Cort

how did T-72 end up writing for Luxembourgian media!? :P
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: M Gee on April 14, 2019, 02:31
I like inrng's rankings:


*****   –
****   Greg Van Avermaet, Wout van Aert
***   Alexander Kristoff, Yves Lampaert, Oliver Naesen, Peter Sagan
**   Štybar, Degenkolb, Langeveld, van Baarle
*   Vanmarcke, Keukeleire, Rowe, Moscon, Politt, Démare, Oss, Senéchal
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 14, 2019, 05:42
Wake up!!!!!!  :D

One thing that stood out to me from that INRNG link above was this quote:

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Taylor Phinney told Mitch Docker’s podcast he’d made up his mind to retire on the eve of Paris-Roubaix last year only to crack the top-10 and he’s back again for the one day race that suits his 87kg hulk.

I've said it before, but it's quite something that Phinney was able to make the Top 10 on what was practically a whim. Had he not suffered that career-altering injury a few years ago, one can only imagine what he may have achieved. I'm curious to see how he does today. I also wonder how motivated he is to leave an impression on the race. Maybe his chilled-out stoner-bro vibe works to his advantage under such stressful conditions.

If he were to make the final selection, I don't think he has the pop to win in a sprint, and I don't think he's explosive enough to ride others off his wheel before reaching the velodrome. But if he somehow found himself with a gap leading into Roubaix, he certainly has the TT pedigree to make catching him an arduous affair.

Well, that's my daydream for the day. We're all allowed one.  :)
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 14, 2019, 05:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIXzfeKjBz4

Stating the obvious, as usual.  :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9vo9_4yIHI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aU0_GVtGhQ
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: search on April 14, 2019, 09:12
Wake up!!!!!!  :D

One thing that stood out to me from that INRNG link above was this quote:

I've said it before, but it's quite something that Phinney was able to make the Top 10 on what was practically a whim. Had he not suffered that career-altering injury a few years ago, one can only imagine what he may have achieved. I'm curious to see how he does today. I also wonder how motivated he is to leave an impression on the race. Maybe his chilled-out stoner-bro vibe works to his advantage under such stressful conditions.

If he were to make the final selection, I don't think he has the pop to win in a sprint, and I don't think he's explosive enough to ride others off his wheel before reaching the velodrome. But if he somehow found himself with a gap leading into Roubaix, he certainly has the TT pedigree to make catching him an arduous affair.

Well, that's my daydream for the day. We're all allowed one.  :)

Phinney has had major knee problems throughout the spring though, therefor didn't start in Gent Wevelgem and E3, and basically abandoned every other major race he did. Still, if there's anything to expect from him, it's in Roubaix, but I'd be surprised if it's this time around.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Arb on April 14, 2019, 09:31
My star rankings

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on April 14, 2019, 10:02
I think Nils Pollit will win today. Never won much if anything but he does appear to be a rider who is continually improving at the cobbled races.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 14, 2019, 10:40
My star rankings

Spoiler (hover to show)

So JULIEN TRARIE FTW, then. :win  :P
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: search on April 14, 2019, 16:49
quoted from last year's thread:

for a moment, maybe we can return to what we love the most about Roubaix.

For example, this little story of #delko Evaldas Siskevicius, the broom wagon, and a broken down team car on the trailer. A video of 3 minutes, very worthy to watch :cool

http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielrennen/1.3177570

Spoiler (hover to show)

came back to finish 9th today :cool

good race by the way. Will come back for more later on :)
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: t-72 on April 14, 2019, 17:47
I think Nils Pollit will win today. Never won much if anything but he does appear to be a rider who is continually improving at the cobbled races.

So close it is worth a mention :cool
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: t-72 on April 14, 2019, 17:52
Contador duties... the results post!

Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: just some guy on April 14, 2019, 18:24
Last section of the race all I could think was hope AG is watching
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on April 14, 2019, 18:35
So close it is worth a mention :cool

Aslong as he avoids injury or illness one of the cobbled races is his next year I think.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 14, 2019, 21:10
I think Nils Pollit will win today. Never won much if anything but he does appear to be a rider who is continually improving at the cobbled races.
Excellent deduction!  :cool

Shame that the top spot wasn't his, for he was the one responsible for initiating the escape, and the one who caused the winning split. I suppose he had to make a move like that, but it was gutsy and well-timed. Phil was good for some solid pulls of his own (obviously), but it must sting to get so, so close to victory.

Next time he'll likely be more of a marked man, so he may have missed his best shot at the element of surprise. But I hope victory finds him soon. He animated an already very exciting race, and deserves a lot of credit for that.
 :)
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Servais Knavendish on April 14, 2019, 23:06
wow -not there this year alas but just watched on playback and what a race!  Big shout on NP CA but must admit delighted to see big Phil collect #4.    So much to love today, really nearly everything I love about pro cycling in the best race of the year, all my frustration of last eek dissipated in an attritional race to that hallowed place!

Big nod to WVA too ... my word we are set for a battle of the ages between those two princes aren't we?
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Echoes on April 14, 2019, 23:46
Just some things:

In 2007 Philippe Gilbert raced his very first Paris-Roubaix for Française des Jeux. He finished 52nd. He wouldn't come back to the race in more than a decade, if I'm not mistaken. Next day, I distinctly remember reading the Dernière Heure and him saying it was so hard, even harder than the Tour of France. Clearly it was impossible to think at that time that someday would be in contention for the win, least of all win it...

At the start of Binche-Chimay-Binche last year - where I was - he clearly said that his objective for 2019 was winning Paris-Roubaix... I think I posted the interview here on the Napoleon Game Cup 2018 thread.  ;)

I know that Gilbert dreamed of winning all major classics. He was so close to winning Milan-Sanremo, for example the day Matt Goss won. Had Pozzato not chased behind him and brought back the group he would've won. Normally Paris-Roubaix suited him much less than Milan-Sanremo but he got the former and not the latter. Milan-Sanremo is the race he first shone in if I remember well. He attacked on the Poggio in 2004. It will be hard for him to win it in the future now.

Even more than just the 5 classics that we know call "Monuments", Gilbert also won the Arrow (formerly equal to present-day monuments), Paris-Tours (historical classic), Amstel Gold (currently as hard as several "Monuments"). Volk/Nieuwsblad is not a classic but he also won it. Which other classic has escaped him? Ghent-Wevelgem but well, when you won Paris-Roubaix, you don't mind not winning Ghent-Wevelgem.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Drummer Boy on April 15, 2019, 00:27
It turns out the NBC Sports does offer coverage of the race.

There's a two-hour condensed version airing from 1:00 to 3:00 am.  :S

I'll record it, of course, but they're not doing much to promote cycling. You really have to be looking for it. I don't even see it listed on their website. I just discovered it by scrolling through the channel guide on TV, almost as a lark. But there it was.

(It's all NHL Stanley Cup playoff coverage until then. Due the time change, the Western Conference playoffs won't end until midnight here anyway.)

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EDIT
Actually, forget all that. I just tried to watch an eleven minute highlight video that NBC Sports posted. I only got through four minutes of it. Having watched Eurosport all day, I had forgotten that this would be Liggett and Roll. Absolutely horrible. Not to mention the terrible soundtrack, it was nothing more than a crash highlight reel. I will never, ever pay for the NBC subscriptions services when the commentating is still so weak.

Rant over....
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: M Gee on April 15, 2019, 02:18
 
My star rankings

Spoiler (hover to show)
Gilbert? 64???

Ok then!

Hey, AG, where were you today! Your  <3 throb lookin' good! Hehe, and Tiger Woods is a winner on the same day. Must have been something in the globally warmed air!
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: AG on April 15, 2019, 10:21
Thanks everyone for thinking of me ...

Unfortunately my husband is in the final stages of terminal brain cancer - so has been pretty freaking awful really.

I did watch the race but though, and Phil winning did make me smile - something I really need right now

Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: LukasCPH on April 15, 2019, 10:29
quoted from last year's thread:

came back to finish 9th today :cool

good race by the way. Will come back for more later on :)
Woah. A previous top-10 is basically a prerequisite to win Paris-Roubaix - so Siskevicius is now part of a (large) group of possible winners! :o

I think Nils Pollit will win today. Never won much if anything but he does appear to be a rider who is continually improving at the cobbled races.
Very good call! One I (and others) made myself on Radsport-News (https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_114544.htm), and he was oh so close. :cool
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: search on April 15, 2019, 10:37
Woah. A previous top-10 is basically a prerequisite to win Paris-Roubaix - so Siskevicius is now part of a (large) group of possible winners! :o

you may need to extend that to Top 15 now :D

or in other words: Gilbert is one of the rare exceptions of winners not to have finished in the Top 10 before. The only others in (more or less) recent times were O'Grady and Knaven, as far as I can see.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: search on April 15, 2019, 10:56
Excellent deduction!  :cool

Shame that the top spot wasn't his, for he was the one responsible for initiating the escape, and the one who caused the winning split. I suppose he had to make a move like that, but it was gutsy and well-timed. Phil was good for some solid pulls of his own (obviously), but it must sting to get so, so close to victory.

Next time he'll likely be more of a marked man, so he may have missed his best shot at the element of surprise. But I hope victory finds him soon. He animated an already very exciting race, and deserves a lot of credit for that.
 :)

yeah, also #katusha Marko Haller mentioned that in the post race interview. Before the race they talked about it, and that it would be his last chance to fly under the radar - and I think he really made the most out of it :cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiDXPrd-fCo

It's likely to be a bit of a different race for him next year, I guess. But he's strong, so who knows...

And although JSG isn't around much anymore, a Roubaix thread also needs a #bahrain Heino Haussler mention of course (video in German):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYPtnUBvUkQ

He sounds super disappointed (with finishing 14th). His legs were amazing already during the recon, "all he had to do was steering", and he could barely sleep the night before the race due to excitement - but having to fight back from two punctures at the worst possible time (and with the comissaires builing up a barrage) cost him too much energy.
From what it sounds like, he really thought he'd win the race otherwise.

So about time to get the hypetrain started for next year?! :D
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Echoes on April 15, 2019, 11:04
Thanks everyone for thinking of me ...

Unfortunately my husband is in the final stages of terminal brain cancer - so has been pretty freaking awful really.

I did watch the race but though, and Phil winning did make me smile - something I really need right now

Oh my God! Be strong AG. My thoughts are with you. :hug
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: M Gee on April 15, 2019, 22:02
Thanks everyone for thinking of me ...

Unfortunately my husband is in the final stages of terminal brain cancer - so has been pretty freaking awful really.

I did watch the race but though, and Phil winning did make me smile - something I really need right now


Oh, man. So sad to hear this! Virtual hugs are the best I can do from here. This is awful news. "My thoughts are with you" - as Echoes said. Just wish I could say more - but there is nothing to say. But we will be here for you.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: M Gee on April 15, 2019, 22:11
As for this P-R, I have seen some of the most amazing journalism this year. Maybe it is just my poor memory, but I feel like these are all well above standard:

This one is fun - I can feel the pain.
https://twitter.com/VelonCC/status/1117520273589395457

Caley Fretz, showing some remarkable writing skills:
https://cyclingtips.com/2019/04/at-paris-roubaix-a-once-and-future-wout-van-aert/

Andy Hood's great article at VN looks pale in comparison to Caley's, but is still well above average, imo. BTW, VN has some other good articles on P-R as well.
https://www.velonews.com/2019/04/analysis/the-longest-hour-how-the-monuments-greater-distance-sets-them-apart_492504
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: rote_laterne on April 15, 2019, 22:18
All the best to your husband and you AG!

I might be the minority here and I like watching Paris-Roubaix but the Tour of Flanders gets me more exited.

I was rooting for Politt or Vanmarcke and I'm not a fan of Gilbert, but he is a worthy winner (although Politt would deserve it more) I wouldn't bet a penny on before the race.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: M Gee on April 16, 2019, 03:56
I FINALLY got to watch the last half of the race tonight. O.M.F.G. BRUTAL! Wow, the NUMBER of crashes! I mean, I almost felt like I was watching MMA, it was so brutal! I felt a little guilty for enjoying the spectacle - my god - it was positively Roman!

From the gun - action. It did not stop. Crash here, crash there - even the famous "Hell of the North" movie didn't have this many crashes.

And Wout Van Aert! If effort was the judgement for winning, he WON! But that isn't the case - you have to get there first. WVA was amazing tho. Quite incredible. Sagan just didn't have the legs yet, and faded in the finale. Deceuninck/QS were brilliant. And Gilbert finally returned to the promised talent he last showed winning the world champs. Mostly unseen since.

GREAT race. As good, or maybe better, than vanSummeren's win.
Title: Re: 117th Paris-Roubaix, Compiègne › Roubaix (257km)
Post by: Echoes on April 17, 2019, 11:25
I might be the minority here and I like watching Paris-Roubaix but the Tour of Flanders gets me more exited.

I think it's a shame because there are longer breakaway ranges at Paris-Roubaix, it's a war of attrition and most definitely a harder race but it's your opinion and I respect it.

However there are things I've noticed. The work done by the "Amis de Paris-Roubaix" is gradually denaturing the race. Of course I'm all for safety but some cobbled sections now seem cakewalk to me while they use to be so hard.  The Bourghelles section (last but one before Carrefour de l'Arbre) was particularly striking to me and it's no surprise if Van Avermaet broke the record average speed which dates back from the old route on different cobbles. I wonder what this year's average speed was (though of course it all depends on the way the wind blows).

But then again, on the Arenberg Forest there are no serious crashes anymore and that's of course something positive.