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Title: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on April 18, 2019, 19:21
We'll probably need a thread for this sooner rather than later as the wildcard announcement must be coming soon. We knew them by April 10th last year.

Are they waiting to give Burgos a chance to show some signs of life?

I'm going for Burgos - best result this season so far is 18th.

Since I posted this they have improved on that miserable record with Gibson scoring a 7th today in Turkey. However from a sporting perspective it's difficult to see them being worthy of the golden ticket.

Other options?

W-52 aren't exactly tearing up trees, Vital Concept would seem the likeliest beneficiaries and it's no stretch of the imagination to see Rolland winning from a break or Coquard enjoying the usually weaker sprint field, Delko are doing all right recently, the Geeeeeeeks have the money and some okay riders or Rally as a real left field shout.

Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on May 07, 2019, 18:38
https://twitter.com/lavuelta/status/1125672001023168512
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: rote_laterne on May 10, 2019, 23:36
No surprise, but Burgos showed nothing so far, even Caja Rural is weaker than last year but still the best spanish PC team. As a non-spanish fan I would have preferred an invitation for a different PC team. Although I understand that the Vuelta is the most important race for spanish teams and racing it the way to secure sponsorship.
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Lyn on July 13, 2019, 07:39
Does anyone know when the Vuelta a Espana 2019 roadbook in english will be released? And where to download? Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Veloroomer on August 06, 2019, 10:02
Im waiting too.  Did you manage to find it anywhere yet ?
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: search on August 08, 2019, 17:48
Does anyone know when the Vuelta a Espana 2019 roadbook in english will be released? And where to download? Much appreciated.

Im waiting too.  Did you manage to find it anywhere yet ?

here you go:

http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=2384.msg2250933#msg2250933
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Lyn on August 09, 2019, 11:07
Thank you. Without sounding ungrateful, any chance you have the english version? Thanks again.
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: search on August 09, 2019, 11:35
no, unfortunately not
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Lyn on August 12, 2019, 10:50
no, unfortunately not
thanks for posting it in any case. I appreciate it. 👍
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on August 19, 2019, 15:33
Decent preview here from Andrew Hood:

Analysis: No five-star favorites means Vuelta could be even more unpredictable (https://www.velonews.com/2019/08/analysis/analysis-no-five-star-favorites-means-vuelta-could-be-even-more-unpredictable_499420)

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The lack of marquee names could be a boon for this year’s Vuelta. The Spanish race is now set to deliver the sparks and fireworks that have consistently made the it the season’s best barn-burner.

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“No one comes to the Vuelta just to pedal the bike,” [race director Javier] Guillén said last week. “All the top-level riders only think about winning when they are racing. I’m not worried about the intensity they bring, I am only worried about if they come or not.”

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Last year saw British riders sweep all three grand tours. So far, Latin Americans have won the first two in 2019. Take your pick — Urán, Carapaz, Quintana, López or Chaves — all have options to keep that streak going.
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on August 21, 2019, 01:22
It looks like NBC is offering the Vuelta through their "Gold" streaming service, but it's also going to be broadcast on the "Olympic channel" although air times seem a bit late in the day, often not until about 3:00pm Spanish time.

I'm not sure if that means a delayed broadcast, or only just the end of each stage. :slow

I'll probably just have to wait and see, because NBC is notoriously horrible at keeping their audience abreast of what's actually going to be offered. As it is, the Olympic Channel, as listed, doesn't include Stage 1, and nothing after Stage 9. But I won't be the least bit surprised if that's just due to a weak and outdated website, (The Olympic Channel is part of NBC Sports).

This is the same site who's highlight videos are telling me that, "Armstrong believes the 2019 TdF is still wide open." 
:cool
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on August 24, 2019, 16:55
https://twitter.com/carltonkirby/status/1165286355154415616

https://twitter.com/robhatchtv/status/1164989583177723904
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on August 29, 2019, 04:24
Interesting anecdote from Johan on yesterday's podcast (as told to him by Victor Hugo Peña)

Apparently Movistar Ecuador (the company) had offered an incentive to new customers. The deal was that for anyone that bought a new phone through Movistar within a given time frame, they would get that phone for free if...Richard Carapaz won the 2019 Vuelta!

With Carapaz not even making to the start line this year, obviously that threw a wrench into the entire promo. However, since some customers had already purchased a phone by then, Movistar (the company) chose to honor the spirit of the campaign, and gave those customers free phones anyway.
 :)


(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/cycling/2019/05/29/199011564_AFP_CYCLING-ITA-GIRO_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqM37qcIWR9CtrqmiMdQVx7BTFYORNjyljiPCywRZm52c.jpg?imwidth=450)
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on August 30, 2019, 03:58
Today's feel-good story from Johan Bruyneel:

Apparently there was a very charming and touching press conference in Spain with Stage 5 winner Ángel Madrazo #burgos.

Johan said that Madrazo is every bit the humble, down-to-earth family-man that he is made out to be. It was a presser filled with deep life-lessons, and humorous stories, including one about his wife, who doesn't like sports, and is opposed to allowing Angel to purchase his much-desired PS4 Playstation.
 :P

Madrazo then pointed out that his 4.5-year-old son will soon be old enough to be his ally in this pursuit.  :D

So enamored was the the press corps with the man being interviewed, that they then offered to take up a collection in order to buy him his own PS4.
 :cool

But the ultimate testament to just how well received he was, and the impact his reflections and thoughtful insights had on the gathering of journalists, was that at the conclusion of his time in front of the microphones, the press corps actually gave Madrazo a standing ovation. A rarity, indeed.


(https://i.promecal.es/imgportadadoble/2019/11707D60-9B96-E73F-A6D6D44FC3C27E4F.JPEG)

 :)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p370x247/12118677_1141134945915537_6863734648050938115_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQlb5-JUniKHfNYh4PQThPZQAkCBjUSsjOlqmyYrUUL7MYhxHK8c5R5MOg4Egznvtz4&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=469811bce61d4cc31f5bdd4b1a0f6e64&oe=5E0F1887)
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on August 31, 2019, 04:05
As per the above:

Johan's update today was that Sony Spain got wind of Ángel's PS4 yearnings, and as a result will present him with one of his very own. :win

https://twitter.com/FXavierVidela/status/1167405515187654656

Translated from Spanish by Microsoft
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🇪🇦 #LaVuelta19 Sony Spain will fulfill the wish to @AngelMadrazo. The Sparrow had commented at a press conference that he wanted to convince his wife to buy the PS4, which was on offer. From Sony tomorrow you will be delivered one in Valls.
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: search on August 31, 2019, 07:19
Too bad that he got a 2 PS4 (aka 500 CHF) penalty for drafting yesterday though :D
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 01, 2019, 01:18
 :cool

https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1167785261423636480

https://twitter.com/lavuelta/status/1167904894864392194

 :D
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 02, 2019, 05:21
Is there really nobody at NBC who can teach people who to pronounce a Colombian's name?! :facepalm

There's still a lot of work to do for @Cycl_Pronounced (https://twitter.com/Cycl_Pronounced), I can see.

Along those lines...

According to Bruyneel, by way of Jani Brajkovič, the correct pronunciation for the Vuelta's latest sensation is:

Ta-DAY Po-GAH-char.

https://twitter.com/Eurosport_UK/status/1168193971794907136
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: LukasCPH on September 02, 2019, 07:55
According to Bruyneel, by way of Jani Brajkovič, the correct pronunciation for the Vuelta's latest sensation is:

Ta-DAY Po-GAH-char.
Yup:
https://twitter.com/Cycl_Pronounced/status/1168265717323587592

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaDmEgrM3WQ
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 03, 2019, 20:00
 :shh

https://twitter.com/tourdegila/status/1168945658386112513
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: AG on September 04, 2019, 00:55
Along those lines...

According to Bruyneel, by way of Jani Brajkovič, the correct pronunciation for the Vuelta's latest sensation is:

Ta-DAY Po-GAH-char.

https://twitter.com/Eurosport_UK/status/1168193971794907136

They must have had lessons over the rest day - as my SBS commentators are suddenly pronouncing it that way after making a horrible mess for the first week.
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 12, 2019, 02:22
I didn't want to muck up the stage thread with this, but interesting nonetheless.

https://twitter.com/grahamwatson10/status/1171905014689722369
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 15, 2019, 03:28
 :o  :(

Spain floods: entire towns submerged after south-east battered by severe storms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PT_8f3hjjo
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on September 17, 2019, 15:18
Does something need to be done with the Vuelta points competition?

With the exception of Bennett making his way into 3rd the other 5 riders in the top 6 were the same as the GC top 5 but in a slightly different order. Roglic led it from the end of Stage 10 but never wore the Green Jersey as actual leader (he wore it on stage 10 but he was actually in 2nd then behind Quintana who was in red).

Quintana wore the Green Jersey on 13 stages but was only the actual leader for 4 of those occasions.

Given that the jersey was basically decided as a by product of the GC and on some occasions it was being worn by the rider in fifth place should the points structure be changed to favour riders who aren't riding for the GC.
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: LukasCPH on September 17, 2019, 17:03
Does something need to be done with the Vuelta points competition?
I think the problem was simply that there were next to no sprint stages, and far too many uphill finishes where the GC guys took the points.
The issue is not so much with the points competition, but with the balance of the Vuelta stages as a whole.
Title: Re: Vuelta 2019 General Discussion
Post by: t-72 on September 17, 2019, 22:08
I think the problem was simply that there were next to no sprint stages, and far too many uphill finishes where the GC guys took the points.
The issue is not so much with the points competition, but with the balance of the Vuelta stages as a whole.

I think that in a normal vuelta, the points jersey would go to the best murito climber (read: Alejandro, Alejandro, Ale-ale-Alejandro) and the rojo to some guy that can make enough time on time trials and really long mountains finishes to beat the explosive guys' bonus points collections.
This year there was very few (2?) classic murito finishes so very few opportunities to get all those points, instead there were more finishes on "ordinary" mountains and even downhill finishes.

I guess it is only in the giro this year that the points jersey actually was given to a pure sprinter.  #bora Sagan can't be classed that way, he is just a campionissimo who normally doesn't wear team outfit,  with a decent sprint.