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Title: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on May 22, 2019, 09:11
It is pretty early to start this thread, yes. But there's already a transfer for 2021 announced:
https://teamsunweb.com/welcome-andreas/ (https://teamsunweb.com/welcome-andreas/)

Andreas Leknessund #unox --> #sunweb
I presume that this means he will stay with #unox for 2020.

Some background:
Raised in Tromsø, Leknessund was a.o. *no & *eu junior ITT champion in 2017, and was the only one close to EBH at the 2018 *no ITT champs, only losing out on the elite title by 7". Several good results in U23 Nations Cup in 2018, and in 2019 a.o. runner-up at the Circuit des Ardennes, only 7" behind later Yorkshire stage winner Alexander Kamp.


Here's a look at the legal stuff:
Going strictly by the UCI rules, this transfer was announced 14 months and 10 days before the earliest possible date (1 August 2020).
In the real world, maybe that rule should simply be struck off the rulebook. :S

And should #unox get their ProConti licence for 2020 (which I don't see not happening), he will have to sign a neo-pro contract with them (which is required to be for minimum two years, so 2020 & 2021) while he already has signed a neo-pro contract with #sunweb from 2021 onwards.
So the #unox contract would have to include a clause that it becomes null and void for the second year if the rider signs with a WT team - a clause that then comes into force the very moment the contract is signed. I'm happy I'm not the lawyer who has to figure out how to do that properly! :-x
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on May 23, 2019, 06:58
This is not very surprising, except for the fact that the strong link established between Foss and #jumbo seems to have forced the hand of other that want to pick the best pieces from the #unox cake early.  Both Leknessund and Foss have some aspirations in the direction that no Norwegian rider has been heading for many long years, up mountains and into the GC of major tours. However, that´s clearly not a given result, much will depend on the continued development in the years to come. There must be  tens of riders in their age class every year around the globe with similar hopes - hopes linked with some degree of realism - and most will not even come close to winning a grand tour  - that doesn´t make it worthless to try, hopefully they will have fun :)

It will be interesting to see if it´s Jumbo-Visma or Sunweb that is more successful in bringing these talents forward. So far, I think one of the strengths of #unox is that they have had both. Two quite similar riders in terms of ambition and talent can create a very positive collaboration and competition. I hope they can support each other better than Kristoff and EBH in the future....more like a cycling equivalent of Svindal and Jansrud :)

Foss announcement to follow? (I believe they have different agents, this deal is one of Pinotti´s first so that may explain the unusual long term framme for it)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on June 28, 2019, 20:09
https://twitter.com/Cicloweb_it/status/1144508022271750146

Conca + Colleoni ---------> #androni

Stagiaires in 2020 as well.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on August 05, 2019, 20:03
https://twitter.com/Cicloweb_it/status/1144508022271750146

Conca + Colleoni ---------> #androni

Stagiaires in 2020 as well.
Totally off tonic warning :)

The name Conca brings memories of a very good soccer player that was never seen in Europe: Dario Conca! 

On his transfer to China he out-salaried even Messi (and he was the first player to do thati, the same Messi that made him totally unknown in Europe, because if you are Argentinian and a born number 10 type player, the waiting line doesn´t move. I watched him play with Fluminense in Rio (he masterminded the serie A win for them).
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 01, 2019, 20:52
https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1179120433523757056
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on December 16, 2019, 08:34
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/xandro-meurisse-vijftig-procent-kans-op-tourdeelname-voor-circus-wanty-gobert/

Meurisse -----------> WT in 2021

That's his plan anyway.

Quote
I am turning 28 and my contract with Wanty will expire at the end of next year. It is time for a step up. I actually wanted that now, but I had to respect the contract. The team supports me in my dream, by the way

He also reckons that a TDF wildcard for Circus this year is a 50/50 chance.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on April 19, 2020, 15:54
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/klimtalent-rivera-benaderd-door-bora-hansgrohe-en-bahrain-mclaren/

Rivera ---------> #bora or  #bahrain ?

He'd prefer the German team as he sees less climbing competition there.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on April 26, 2020, 20:50
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/veldrijder-felipe-orts-op-weg-naar-wegploeg-burgos-bh/

Orts -----------> #burgos ?

The team already has one multi-discipline rider in Carlos Canal.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on May 07, 2020, 19:04
https://twitter.com/TeamUAEAbuDhabi/status/1258332930667143168

Extension.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on May 18, 2020, 14:37
https://twitter.com/YallaIsraelSUN/status/1262373916594573315
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on May 28, 2020, 18:10
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1266023914251173894

Lopez ---------> #bora ?

If true it would likely mean Majka moving on. Joining up again with Bjarne?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on June 01, 2020, 09:58
#lotto

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20191014_04662156

[...]

Florian Vermeersch will join the team in June or July.

confirmed now:

https://twitter.com/Lotto_Soudal/status/1267338338492723201

#lotto (U23) Florian Vermeersch --> #lotto Lotto Soudal
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on June 05, 2020, 14:21
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1268883949117374466

Bardet ---------> #sunweb ?

Quote
Bardet's agent admits that his pupil is about to switch teams, "but nothing has been completed with Sunweb, nor with other teams"

A change could be good for him, but I'm sceptical that Sunweb would be the right team for him.

The article also says that Oomen "would doubt about a longer stay with the Spekenbrink team".
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on June 08, 2020, 07:22
https://www.zikloland.com/ivan-garcia-cortina-elige-movistar-team-en-2021/

IGC -----------> #movistar ?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on June 08, 2020, 07:49
sounds like a good fit. With Haussler likely to dominate the classics this year, and also Mohoric chafing at the bit, there won't be too much room at #bahrain Bahrain, while Movistar's classics teams basically consists of two riders, and both are in their mid thirties.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on June 18, 2020, 20:46
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chris-froomes-contract-negotiations-remain-ongoing/

In addition to the Froome, GVA and Stuyven rumours.....

Gorka + Ion + Nieve + Uncle Tom Cobley ---------> #israel ?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on June 24, 2020, 07:56
from today's Het Nieuwsblad:

#lotto Stan Dewulf --> #ag2r AG2R La Mondiale

Apparently #israel also is interested in signing #trek Porte and #bahrain Teuns
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Joelsim on June 24, 2020, 10:14
from today's Het Nieuwsblad:

#lotto Stan Dewulf --> #ag2r AG2R La Mondiale

Apparently #israel also is interested in signing #trek Porte and #bahrain Teuns

Looks like they couldn’t keep Dewulf from the door.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 01, 2020, 18:29
https://twitter.com/Arkea_Samsic/status/1278339782154878986

Two more well deserved years for Swift at Arkea. Did a sterling job in PN for Quintana.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 10, 2020, 07:25
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1281467989083250688

Stuyven renews with Trek.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 17, 2020, 20:35
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1284176286710202370

Fuglsang ---------> #ntt ?

Under contract, but that doesn't stop him saying he dreams of riding for a Danish team at the Tour next year. Things are shaky at Astana.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 19, 2020, 19:27
https://twitter.com/TDE_ProCycling/status/1284865726499749889

Extension for Turgis. Rumours of Latour heading there as well.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 21, 2020, 10:58
https://twitter.com/Lotto_Soudal/status/1285469176870600704

Quote
My personal dream is to win a stage in the ten biggest stage races. As I have already won in Catalunya, Paris-Nice, Suisse, Romandie and Dauphiné, I just miss Tirreno and País Vasco. Unfortunately, this will not be possible in 2020 but I hope to achieve it in the coming years, with the support of the team.”
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 22, 2020, 15:59
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1285896150873190400

Virtual confirmation that both Bardet and Latour will be leaving AG2R. A bit strange.

The article also states that GVA has been hawking himself to the team. Has I-SUN's interest cooled?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 23, 2020, 11:02
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1286168796764475392

https://twitter.com/Lotto_Soudal/status/1286191374551916546

A youngster each for #lotto and #jumbo
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 25, 2020, 20:18
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1287074294904827907

Impey ----------> #israel ? (like Nieve though, PCS has him with a contract already for next year)

August should bring a few less question marks.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 27, 2020, 18:09
A whole bunch from yesterday and today.

https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1287619529640747009

Kelderman ----------> #bora ?

https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1287441616530288641

Jungels -----------> #ag2r ?

https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1287751658898960385
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on July 28, 2020, 08:40
according to Italian media reports, Jumbo plans to strengthen its TT team even more:

(tbc) #mitchelton Edoardo Affini --> #jumbo Team Jumbo-Visma

Sunweb is interested as well, but at the moment Jumbo looks like the more likely option to choose for Affini.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 29, 2020, 20:21
https://twitter.com/JumboVismaRoad/status/1288491600985960448

What a strange quote. Something getting lost in translation perchance.

https://twitter.com/BORAhansgrohe/status/1288385477511467008
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on July 31, 2020, 12:56
Unconfirmed rumour that #lotto Carl Fredrik Hagen is on his way to #israel. 

As news about Lotto-Soudal not renewing neither his contract nor several other rider's contracts was surfacing I speculated he might go to #ineos as he is the kind of guy they would like to put in their mountain-train. He is also probably not good enough on the TT bike to podium any Grand Tour himself so might as well aim for gregario work and one-day races.

Since then Chris Froome decided to leave #ineos for #israel, and if this deal actually goes through (my source is Norwegian TV2 news) - we can clearly see the benefits of reading velorooms frequently, Chris & #israel  :lol
[1]

Hagen's defining characteristics is:

Hagen's best result is 8th GC in the Vuelta, without too much support from #lotto. 

If Froome has a bad day, CF Hagen may be able to assume the leadership for the rest of the race, but don't expect wonders.  He seems to be loosing a lot of time every day he's on a TT bike, and he is not the typical stage winner, as he lacks a little of that extra punch.

I didn't mention Zubeldia, but Hagen is the typical top 10 GC rider, or the perfect man for the #israel GC caravan on their way through the desert to the promised land of GC success. He might also be a good partner for Dan Martin in Lombardia and similar races. Hagen seems to go well on the longer monument/championship distances -  regardless of #lotto or #israel he is likely to be *no captain in this years world championship and the maybe-next-year Tokyo olympics.
 1. (Leadbelly is working as an agent, you read it here first :shh)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2020, 20:45
...but he's no Torjus Sleen. :P

Btw I see Dare Devo have made a few signings for next year. *cough cough*
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2020, 21:06
Speaking of Norwegians

https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1289533973383716864

Mr Green Valley --------> a team with a "better contract where he would also have been promised a more important role"

Taco is also leaving.

Renewals for Roosen and Eenkhoorn amongst others.

Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on August 01, 2020, 21:59
regardless of #lotto or #israel he is likely to be *no captain in this years world championship and the maybe-next-year Tokyo olympics.
Heja Calle! :cheer

Mr Green Valley --------> a team with a "better contract where he would also have been promised a more important role"
The GC focus at #jumbo is taking its toll. Silly them. :P
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 01, 2020, 23:27
Mr Green Valley --------> a team with a "better contract where he would also have been promised a more important role"

Valverde is not given an important enough role?

(Yeah, I know)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 02, 2020, 16:48
https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1289943786525569026?

Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 03, 2020, 09:18
https://twitter.com/BORAhansgrohe/status/1290196681300914178?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on August 03, 2020, 20:17
Further baseless speculations allowed in this thread? or was that another one   :angel

#jumbo #champno Jansen Valverde aka Amund Grøndal Jansen is going somewhere he gets a better contract than at #jumbo. That is, probably not to #sunweb. With Politt leaving #israel for #bora, I wouldn't be surprised if:

#jumbo #champno Jansen Valverde aka Amund Grøndal Jansen --> #israel

Other takers would be squads with ambitions for the belgian classics or a strong sprint train set-up, #bahrain or #uae could be a possibility. However, his skillset overlaps with norwegians Bystrøm and Laengen at #uae so unlikely he is going that way unless Gaviria wants him for his sprint-train, as #uae is one of the few teams that could actually field 2 strong sprinters simultaneously. Jansens work with the #jumbo bee-train in the past two years has been very succesful, with lots of victories for Groenewegen. Rivals will have noticed.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 03, 2020, 21:33
https://twitter.com/OuestFrance/status/1290312448046751744

Not a great (potential) transfer imo. He burst onto the scene in his debut year with some really good and consistent performances, but since then he's been hit and miss and from my metaphorical armchair I do wonder if he is lacking a bit in the determination department to push onto the next level.

He's French though and with Latour and Bardet both leaving maybe the pressure was on to get a recognisable name.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 04, 2020, 10:33
https://twitter.com/EuroHoody/status/1290573691068256256?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on August 04, 2020, 10:47
Unconfirmed rumour that #lotto Carl Fredrik Hagen is on his way to #israel. 
Have several Connect The Dots points! :D
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on August 05, 2020, 11:48
Froome is getting the band together:
http://israelcyclingacademy.com/super-domestique-and-road-captain-daryl-impey-to-join-isn-in-2021/ (http://israelcyclingacademy.com/super-domestique-and-road-captain-daryl-impey-to-join-isn-in-2021/)

Daryl Impey #mitchelton --> #israel
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Servais Knavendish on August 05, 2020, 14:08
I wondered whether to start a new strand called "Froome - Is it all over bar the shouting"

I am not sure whether it is or not - but if I was ISUN I'd be rooting around for the receipt - or in contract terms cooling off period escape clause...

Please remind me of this post when he lifts multiple grand tours and a rainbow jerseys in the years ahead...
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on August 06, 2020, 09:40
I wondered whether to start a new strand called "Froome - Is it all over bar the shouting"
I, too, am very skeptical whether Froome will ever return to his GT-winning old self.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on August 10, 2020, 09:09
#ccc Patrick Bevin
#stgeorge Sebastian Berwick
--> #israel Israel Start-Up Nation

http://israelcyclingacademy.com/isn-continues-its-build-up-and-signs-bevin-and-berwick/

Bevin looks like a good signing to me. Don't know much about Berwick. They probably signed him after getting their ass kicked by him in the Herald Sun Tour this year ;)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 10, 2020, 09:13
CCC is not going to have any riders soon, that haven't signed for other teams
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on August 10, 2020, 09:16
CCC is not going to have any riders soon, that haven't signed for other teams

#israel, on contrary... ;)

https://twitter.com/DeGendtThomas/status/1292735387560026113
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 10, 2020, 10:38
Big Mickey S And GVA #ccc -> #ag2r
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 10, 2020, 11:15
https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/1292747515863818240?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Servais Knavendish on August 10, 2020, 13:25
 
Big Mickey S And GVA #ccc -> #ag2r

Will GVA persist with the whole 'golden' shtick for a 5th season at  #ag2r?

Sleeve cuffs are a nice idea but bike and helmet ...still?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 10, 2020, 14:24

Will GVA persist with the whole 'golden' shtick for a 5th season at  #ag2r?

Sleeve cuffs are a nice idea but bike and helmet ...still?

Except it is smart so easy for the team to find him. Evans did the same in TTT .

I wonder why more teams don't do the same with team leaders
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on August 10, 2020, 16:11
I wonder why more teams don't do the same with team leaders
Their team leaders didn't win Olympic gold. ;)

There's probably definitely a rule against individual riders having differing colours on their kit if it isn't to notify former national/Continental/world championship or Olympic Games wins.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Servais Knavendish on August 10, 2020, 17:56
 
Except it is smart so easy for the team to find him. Evans did the same in TTT .

I wonder why more teams don't do the same with team leaders

Ok that is an interesting thought; so he could simply have a different colour bike (and helmet?) - but it presently just feels like he is saying "Did I ever tell you about Rio..." every time he rides!

NB At least colours work well together far better than the Bianchi celeste clash at  #jumbo; roll on their Cervelo deal next year.

Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on August 11, 2020, 07:30
from today's Het Nieuwsblad

(tbc) #total Rein Taaramäe --> #circus Circus–Wanty Gobert

basically as a direct replacement for Fabien Doubey, who switched teams the other way around.

+

(tbc) #seg Jordi Meeus --> #vlaanderen Sport Vlaanderen - Baloise

he looked strong in the Czech Tour. Would be good for Topsport to finally get a talented rider again - the new policies of the WT teams (signing younger riders) really have made it tough for them.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 11, 2020, 10:05
https://twitter.com/AG2RLMCyclisme/status/1293109905893855232?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 11, 2020, 10:07
https://twitter.com/AG2RLMCyclisme/status/1293110954553737218?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 11, 2020, 18:23
(tbc) #seg Jordi Meeus --> #vlaanderen Sport Vlaanderen - Baloise

he looked strong in the Czech Tour. Would be good for Topsport to finally get a talented rider again - the new policies of the WT teams (signing younger riders) really have made it tough for them.

Didn't he have an offer from them last year and turned it down? You'd think after those sprints in the Czech Tour that somebody bigger would be after him. Why not Bahrain or Mitchelton who saw him first hand in those races.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 11, 2020, 18:24
https://twitter.com/AG2RLMCyclisme/status/1293109905893855232?

The rumour/connecting of dots is that Rudy Barbier will be his replacement at Groupama.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: al_pacino on August 11, 2020, 19:39
Unless I'm missing someone AG2R are putting all their eggs in the classics basket.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on August 11, 2020, 20:07
yeah, looks like they won't be aiming for Grand Tour team rankings anymore ;)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 12, 2020, 09:06
https://twitter.com/ridemediaHQ/status/1293458066659139585?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on August 12, 2020, 09:14
this seems to turn into #teamca's new outpost in Isreal.

I'm afraid there won't be much room left for the Cannonball, though?!
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 12, 2020, 09:20
The old team feel is done.

Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 14, 2020, 19:54
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1294207649358270467

Haig[1] ----------> #bahrain ?

https://twitter.com/TeamSunweb/status/1294197078910959617

Another youngster for the team.
 1. or Big Jackie H if you prefer
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 15, 2020, 07:42
Haig wow thought he was greenedge always
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 15, 2020, 07:45
https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1294524848358612992?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: al_pacino on August 18, 2020, 14:09
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bob-jungels-signs-for-ag2r-la-mondiale/

Jungels to AG2R. I think there we're rumours. The rider to help fulfill some GC ambitions?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 18, 2020, 14:39
Loving #ag2r for 2021
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 18, 2020, 20:22
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1295698396351811584

Maximum of 32 riders per WT team next year.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 19, 2020, 08:35
https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1294524848358612992?

https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst/status/1295978244576092160

Confirmed.

Since he raced in CCC colours on the 16th, the transfer must have actually happened outside the short window.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on August 19, 2020, 11:01
Since he raced in CCC colours on the 16th, the transfer must have actually happened outside the short window.
Hey, you can get the UCI's dispensation for almost anything if you know how to apply for it. :shh



:betting
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on August 19, 2020, 12:12
https://twitter.com/MitcheltonSCOTT/status/1296041240685936642

Missed a trick there by not saying "Simon says 'I stay'!". :D
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 20, 2020, 06:41
https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1296318618695761920?

More solid signings from #ccc
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 20, 2020, 06:48
Re-ups at #sunweb

https://twitter.com/cyclismactu/status/1296320818507440133?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on August 20, 2020, 07:02
Loving #ag2r for 2021

You'll be sad to read that big Stijn Vandenberg will not get a new deal with #ag2r Ag2R, though.

He would liks to continue his career for another year, and Alpecin, Circus Wanty and B&B seem to be interested, according to today's Het Nieuwsblad
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 20, 2020, 11:33
Sad news let Big Stijn ride on.

Has been another Quickstep rider who's career went downhill fast adter leaving the team
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 21, 2020, 09:38
https://twitter.com/Lotto_Soudal/status/1296719015239454721?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 21, 2020, 12:14
https://twitter.com/EuroHoody/status/1296764326888583168?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Mellow Velo on August 21, 2020, 17:47
 The other half of the Yates twins to Ineos.

https://twitter.com/TeamINEOS/status/1296832013589254145
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 21, 2020, 22:31
The other half of the Yates twins to Ineos.

https://twitter.com/TeamINEOS/status/1296832013589254145

At least we will be able to tell them apart now :D
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 22, 2020, 07:06
https://twitter.com/GroupamaFDJ/status/1296826256042930193?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on August 22, 2020, 08:56
The other half of the Yates twins to Ineos.
Every time I read "Ineos Grenadiers", I think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p8JUTp1Gcw

Seeing the team wear blue at the Tour instead of that Grenadier red will be weird. ;)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on August 24, 2020, 08:40
(tbc) #uae Jasper Philipsen --> #alpecin Alpecin Fenix

Quickstep was rumored to be interested last week, but according to today's Het Belang van Limburg he'll sign a two-year deal at Alpecin instead
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 24, 2020, 09:26
https://twitter.com/Brandtenburg94/status/1297808999967006720?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 26, 2020, 18:47
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1298546213306982400

Baptiste ---------> #circus ?

https://twitter.com/tuttobiciweb_it/status/1298502562035970048

De Marchi -------> #ntt or #bahrain or #mitchelton or #israel ?

I-SUN the favourites currently.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 27, 2020, 14:00
Jacky Boy up and left

https://twitter.com/BahrainMcLaren/status/1298961423138160640?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 30, 2020, 08:43
https://twitter.com/RenaudB31/status/1299839439775117312

Barbier ---------> #groupama or #total ?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 30, 2020, 19:45
https://twitter.com/TeamSunweb/status/1300141601956790273?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: al_pacino on August 30, 2020, 19:57
That was coming after the non-selection(stage 1 looked almost tailor made for him). UAE or Bahrain?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 30, 2020, 20:14
That was coming after the non-selection(stage 1 looked almost tailor made for him). UAE or Bahrain?

I was more thinking Mitchelton or I-Sun, but who knows.

Anyway I can't work out in my mind if how Sunweb works is either really laudable or totally bonkers. Fast forward a couple of years and will the endlessly repeating pattern continue with Eeekhofff/Hirschi/Van Wilder or whoever has got them some results leaving as the team favours "collective strength" over anything else.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on August 30, 2020, 22:35
I was more thinking Mitchelton or I-Sun, but who knows.

Anyway I can't work out in my mind if how Sunweb works is either really laudable or totally bonkers. Fast forward a couple of years and will the endlessly repeating pattern continue with Eeekhofff/Hirschi/Van Wilder or whoever has got them some results leaving as the team favours "collective strength" over anything else.

Yes, it looks weird but, could budget limitations be very important in this?
There´s nothing wrong with their sprint train without Matthews. On the first stage of Tour de France practically the entire podium came into Nice on the #sunweb train and that includes a few non-paying passengers that were able to jump on board at crucial moments. Today they scored 2nd again with Hirschi. Summed up so far, one of the best teams in TdF this year (too early to say, but the results always says something.

It is an usual way of running a WT team (like a development team in WT clothes?), but despite how awkward it looks, they are not in crisis, they are just operating in a different way. Best at succession planning, because they have to?

Is this team primarily about  making money for their owners? Some of their decisions seem to have more business logic than sports performance about them. Now there are no men left of the generation that won the Giro and dominated the Bergen Worlds in 2017. It seems a bit more stable on the women´s team. (I guess Rivera is still there?)

The team still works very well, the results are good compared to other «small» WT squads.

From next year they get #unox #champeu Leknessund - so it is not like they will go bankrupt on talent either.

Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: AG on August 31, 2020, 01:58
not selecting him for the Tour was pure stupidity.  People management obviously not their strong suit.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: AG on August 31, 2020, 02:04
and the question has been answered.

Mitchelton Scott ... nice


https://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/article/2020/08/31/matthews-back-mitchelton-scott-after-seeking-release-sunweb?fbclid=IwAR1TksTmde1WX2XeyNZOx8xz-F3H2PIQIBmBo_Ti4xNzpUvT57tnh9bYPPs
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: just some guy on August 31, 2020, 04:15
Got to wonder why they didn't do a mid season transfer.

Sunweb bleeds talents
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 31, 2020, 05:56
https://www.directvelo.com/actualite/83623/circus-wanty-gobert-n-a-pas-un-quintana-ou-un-van-der-poel

Rota ----------> #circus
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on August 31, 2020, 19:52
Yes, it looks weird but, could budget limitations be very important in this?
There´s nothing wrong with their sprint train without Matthews. On the first stage of Tour de France practically the entire podium came into Nice on the #sunweb train and that includes a few non-paying passengers that were able to jump on board at crucial moments. Today they scored 2nd again with Hirschi. Summed up so far, one of the best teams in TdF this year (too early to say, but the results always says something.

It is an usual way of running a WT team (like a development team in WT clothes?), but despite how awkward it looks, they are not in crisis, they are just operating in a different way. Best at succession planning, because they have to?

Is this team primarily about  making money for their owners? Some of their decisions seem to have more business logic than sports performance about them. Now there are no men left of the generation that won the Giro and dominated the Bergen Worlds in 2017. It seems a bit more stable on the women´s team. (I guess Rivera is still there?)

The team still works very well, the results are good compared to other «small» WT squads.

From next year they get #unox #champeu Leknessund - so it is not like they will go bankrupt on talent either.


Just thinking about it, Bol's nationality might have played some part in him getting the nod ahead of Matthews (but couldn't they have taken both?). However no matter which way you look at it the Australian has been shabbily treated.

Last year for the Tour the team got him to train 100% to help Dumoulin with virtually no sprint practice, but as it turned out he sacrificed himself in vain and then couldn't snag a stage win.

Jump to 2020 and don't you think the team owes him something for that? Okay with this group mentality they have, you don't build your entire team around him, but you surely pick your best rider for the biggest races and the races that suit him. Instead they repay him by sending him to the Giro and thus missing not just the Tour, but the Classics.

The problem I see with this collective strength thing is that all riders are not equal. It goes okay if the riders are much of a muchness in terms of talent, but it seems to be that if one becomes head and shoulders above the rest (and surely you want special riders like that) then that is where the problems start.

It could be Mr Leknussund himself who suffers from it in a couple of years time.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 02, 2020, 18:58
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1301173946675605506

AGJ ---------> #mitchelton
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on September 03, 2020, 08:34
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1301173946675605506

AGJ ---------> #mitchelton

This looks like a good move for both the rider and the new team.  :cool

(Obviously Jansen wouldn't get a captain's role with the killer bees in the classics unless Wout van Aert is in hospital.)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 03, 2020, 18:55
https://twitter.com/Arkea_Samsic/status/1301567636497666051

Pajur --------> #arkea

Nice signing. I'd nearly had him on my CQ team this year. I might just have him now in 2021.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on September 07, 2020, 12:29
https://twitter.com/TeamUAEAbuDhabi/status/1302871884892114944

Trentin #ccc --> #uae

I guess this means that CCC is folding.


https://twitter.com/BORAhansgrohe/status/1302879290112045056

Kelderman #sunweb --> #bora
Ben Zwiehoff MTB --> #bora
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 07, 2020, 12:45
Trentin #ccc --> #uae

I guess this means that CCC is folding.

probably. Also #ccc Zakarin is rumored to have found a new home at #gazprom Gazprom-Rusvelo.

Maybe there's a chance for the Devo team to move up a level again though. Would be good, and probably an opportunity for some lesser names to stay.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 07, 2020, 19:03
Trentin and Kristoff in the same team seems a bit overkill, no?

https://twitter.com/YallaIsraelSUN/status/1302879356201717760

Jones ----------> #ica and then #israel

There was also confirmation today of Taaramachine joining the Circus.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 08, 2020, 20:46
https://twitter.com/NIPPO_Delko_OP_/status/1303370011189354497

Nice one. :cool

Was an unlucky loser with the ICA/Katusha merger. I'm almost certain he would have stayed if that hadn't happened.

He's no world beater of course, but an honest pro and a good helper on most terrain. I'm happy for him.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 09, 2020, 07:10
(tbc) #seg Jordi Meeus --> #vlaanderen Sport Vlaanderen - Baloise

he looked strong in the Czech Tour. Would be good for Topsport to finally get a talented rider again - the new policies of the WT teams (signing younger riders) really have made it tough for them.

Didn't he have an offer from them last year and turned it down? You'd think after those sprints in the Czech Tour that somebody bigger would be after him. Why not Bahrain or Mitchelton who saw him first hand in those races.

going bigger indeed now, by all likeliness

(tbc) #seg Jorfi Meeus --> #bora BORA-hansgrohe

article in today's Het Belang van Nieuwsblad: https://pressreader.com/article/281917365486639

#uae Philipsen to #alpecin Alpecin is confirmed in the same issue
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 09, 2020, 07:34
and some rumours from Italy:

(tbc) #uae Fabio Aru --> #kometa EOLO-Kometa
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on September 09, 2020, 08:03
Trentin and Kristoff in the same team seems a bit overkill, no?

They are loading it like a belgian world championship road race team. There's Gaviria too. They still got no Tim de Clerq and no Michael Mørkøv.....just to explain why the soccer team with 11 strikers don't win matches. Kristoff's stage 1 win and yellow jersey was pretty much a one man show.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 14, 2020, 00:47
Richie Porte headed back into the #ineos Ineos fold for 2021?

That's according to a very confident Andy Schleck. :slow
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Flo on September 15, 2020, 15:17
and some rumours from Italy:

(tbc) #uae Fabio Aru --> #kometa EOLO-Kometa
Just to expand on this a bit: allegedly Alberto Contador on Spanish Eurosport offered to help Fabio find his mojo. Then RAI reported a couple days later that Aru spoke with Ivan Basso. He would have to take a huge hit to his salary though, I doubt EOLO-Kometa's budget will be more than a couple million.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 17, 2020, 13:10
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/daniel-martinez-in-talks-with-ineos-grenadiers/

Martinez -----------> #ineos ?

Quote
EF Pro Cycling are in the middle of building dismantling their roster for next year
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 20, 2020, 20:27
https://twitter.com/cyclingweekly/status/1307750572527890432

Hopefully it isn't the end of his CX-ing.

I had thought he might do what MVDP has done with Corendon/Alpecin. Basically have a team (Trinity) built around him and gradually raise the team level step by step. However that may not have been so easy in the current situation.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 21, 2020, 09:38
https://twitter.com/VeloClubDuNet/status/1307929999450812417

Lopez -------------> ???

There had been a few rumours of other teams interested in him in recent weeks/months.

Bora was the most persistent one. I guess as a like for like Majka replacement.

I-Sun had been mentioned as well, but that seems unlikely as they're nearly full and still need a classics rider or two.

How about UAE? Gets to lead in the Giro and then helps Pogacar at the Tour?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 21, 2020, 10:26
UAE could make sense, yeah. They have some Colombians, Spanish staff (Matxin and so on) - I guess a mainly English speaking team would not be his first option.

Yesterday @cirogazzetta said that #bahrain Battaglin would likely sign for #bardiani Bardiani, by the way, but that tweet has since been deleted. So either it's incorrect, or there's an official announcement form Bardiani due, they didn't want to be spoiled.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 22, 2020, 09:18
Movistar keeps on announcing surprising transfers

#bora Gregor Mühlberger --> #movistar Movistar

Quote
Winner of the 2020 Sibiu Tour, the first pro stagerace post-pandemic, plus as a stage of the 2018 BinckBank Tour and the Austrian road race title in 2017, Mühlberger shared podiums this 2020 with two of his future team-mates, Alejandro Valverde and Marc Soler, at two events of the Mallorca Challenge -he was 3rd in Deià, behind ‘Bala’, and 2nd in Andratx, following a late break against eventual winner Marc-.

Gregor Mühlberger: “I’m super happy to have been given this chance by the team to sign with them and profit from all the opportunities that lie ahead in the next few years. It’s a good chance to improve my skills and get better in the future, chase some results on both the toughest one-day races and some mountainous one-week races like Dauphiné or Itzulia, but also try to help the leaders as much as I can in the Grand Tours. I feel like some of my best performances in previous seasons have come at the third week of GTs, where I feel pretty strong, and I hope I can be there for our team leaders, put my current experience at the team’s service and also learn a lot from the veterans, such as Alejandro Valverde, José Joaquín Rojas and many others. There’s still a lot for me to improve and learn, and I’m so happy to have this chance with the Movistar Team to grow with them and continue to get better in the next few years.”

at least they mentioned Sibiu first ;)

https://movistarteam.com/en/2020-09-22/gregor-muhlberger-signing
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on September 22, 2020, 11:59
Movistar keeps on announcing surprising transfers

#bora Gregor Mühlberger --> #movistar Movistar

at least they mentioned Sibiu first ;)

https://movistarteam.com/en/2020-09-22/gregor-muhlberger-signing
Does this mean we'll get #movistar to Sibiu next year? :D
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2020, 06:30
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1308634353476530176

Meurisse -------> #alpecin ?

Not the WT, but they should have their choice of all WT races next year unless something strange happens in the next month.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 23, 2020, 08:11
#androni Kevin Rivera
#giotti Johnatan Cañaveral
--> #bardiani Bardiani Csf Faizanè

https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/1600804269

Probably not quite the move Rivera was initially hoping for, but likely the best he could get after this kind of season. Interesting that he didn't just stay at Androni then (or that Gianni didn't keep him).

Rivera and Cañaveral are the first non-Italians in the team since the Richeze brothers in 2009.

The #bahrain Battaglin transfer is one they are still working on, according to that article. Looking at the Giro profiles, they should maybe better get it fixed before the start ;)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on September 23, 2020, 09:02
#androni Kevin Rivera
#giotti Johnatan Cañaveral
--> #bardiani Bardiani Csf Faizanè
Wut? :o

I guess not everyone can be a Bernal or Sosa ... but as you say, it's strange that Savio didn't keep him. This is very much a sideways move (maybe even a bit downwards).
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on September 23, 2020, 10:55
Lutsenko :S

#astana —->

Lutsenko leaving Astana for what/where ? So what happens with Fuglsang?
If they cannot keep *co riders AND cannot keep the *kz star, it really looks like a sinking ship. Or a dried up pipeline from the KMG.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 23, 2020, 11:11
Wut? :o

I guess not everyone can be a Bernal or Sosa ... but as you say, it's strange that Savio didn't keep him. This is very much a sideways move (maybe even a bit downwards).

yeah, a bit odd. In the Bardiani statement (https://a3g8h1.mailupclient.com/f/rnl.aspx/?ffi=u/sqzcake=nzdk&x=pv&=nnqz3:-1&c=la-d&&ce1&x=pv&a&x=pp&w2&x=pv&-i20:394f=ux_nNCLM) it says "In 2020 Kevin Rivera will still be involved in the Imola World Championships this weekend with the Costa Rica jersey, and then will focus to prepare for the new season, in Bardiani CSF Faizanè jersey", which doesn't really sound like he'll race for Androni much (or at all) anymore.

But well, Mühlberger yesterday, Rivera today... what kind of announcements can we expect for Sosa and Bernal over the coming two days? :D
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 23, 2020, 11:46
Lutsenko :S

#astana —->

Lutsenko leaving Astana for what/where ? So what happens with Fuglsang?
If they cannot keep *co riders AND cannot keep the *kz star, it really looks like a sinking ship. Or a dried up pipeline from the KMG.

yeah, smells like some monetary issues (again). About Superman:

https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1308701001839501312

and Lutsenko posted a Movistar related picture on his Instagram the other day, so that's where he may end up
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2020, 17:14
https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1308700804044541953

Ollie with some of the day's other rumours/news.

The Fernandez is Ruben from  #fundacion
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2020, 17:19
It's strange that Savio didn't keep him. This is very much a sideways move (maybe even a bit downwards).

Don't forget Androni will no longer be sponsoring the team and with no news yet on a replacement, you can imagine that Gianni might not be able to offer bigger contracts and that the riders themselves might take offers from other teams if they come along.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on September 23, 2020, 18:46
yeah, a bit odd. In the Bardiani statement (https://a3g8h1.mailupclient.com/f/rnl.aspx/?ffi=u/sqzcake=nzdk&x=pv&=nnqz3:-1&c=la-d&&ce1&x=pv&a&x=pp&w2&x=pv&-i20:394f=ux_nNCLM) it says "In 2020 Kevin Rivera will still be involved in the Imola World Championships this weekend with the Costa Rica jersey, and then will focus to prepare for the new season, in Bardiani CSF Faizanè jersey", which doesn't really sound like he'll race for Androni much (or at all) anymore.
Sounds like something happened between Rivera and Savio that meant they're not friends anymore.

Don't forget Androni will no longer be sponsoring the team and with no news yet on a replacement, you can imagine that Gianni might not be able to offer bigger contracts and that the riders themselves might take offers from other teams if they come along.
True; but I was under the impression Rivera still had at least one year to go with Savio's Little Helpers.
But since he started his contract in 2017, he's done four years with #androni already.
Time flies! :o
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2020, 16:10
https://twitter.com/directvelo/status/1309132987422904322

Girmay extension. :cool
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 24, 2020, 17:06
as a stagiaire only, for the moment (on from now), but I'd be surprised if they don't keep him

#ljubljana Keegan Swirbul --> #rally Rally Cycling

https://rallycycling.com/news/team-signs-keegan-swirbul-as-stagiaire/
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on September 24, 2020, 21:36
Girmay extension. :cool
They'd be stupid not to. :cool
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Mellow Velo on September 25, 2020, 13:39
Ineos confirmed Pidcock, Porte, Martinez and De Plus for next season
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 25, 2020, 17:57
those are some decent recruitments ;)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: AG on September 26, 2020, 11:52
Have to match the super team of Jumbo somehow
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 27, 2020, 11:20
Have to match the super team of Jumbo somehow

Have to match the one-man wrecking crew of Tadej Pogačar...somehow.
Title: Re: Mens\' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 29, 2020, 07:46
#lotto Lotto Soudal plans to do a bit of an Autumn cleaning, according to today's Het Nieuwsblad:

#lotto Jelle Wallays
#lotto Tosh van der Sande
#lotto Nikolas Maes
#lotto Sander Armée
#lotto Rémy Mertz
#lotto Tomasz Marczyński
--> ?

Together they have 34 years of experience in the team, but due to a "change of philosophy" there's no room anymore. The team is more looking for younger riders now, and also a budget of cut of 1 1/2 million needs to be compensated.

Post Merge: September 29, 2020, 11:09
#lotto Adam Hansen, Jonathan Dibben, Rasmus Iversen and Brian van Goethem got the same letter from the management. So with Hagen and Dewulf already confirmed to leave as well, that's 12 out of 28 riders from 2020 gone. As a replacement, Lotto has signed 6 neo pros + #riwal Andreas Kron so far.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on September 30, 2020, 16:29
There's Leadbelly's reason for Badilatti not doing the Giro ;)

#ccc Attila Valter
#israel Matteo Badilatti
--> #groupama Groupama FDJ

https://twitter.com/GroupamaFDJ/status/1311319895007571975
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 01, 2020, 07:29
It would be a shame if that was the reason. Politt went to the Tour after all and he's leaving. There is still the Vuelta, but his lack of racing does make me think that it too is off the menu.

https://twitter.com/DziamborKarol/status/1311430690899136512

Aniolkowski -----------> #israel ?

https://twitter.com/Rally_Cycling/status/1311385784843460608
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 03, 2020, 07:34
https://twitter.com/tuttobiciweb_it/status/1312269335025643521

Battistella ---------> #astana ?

Milan ----------> #bahrain ?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 05, 2020, 18:32
https://cyclingpro.net/spaziociclismo/ciclomercato/ineos-grenadiers-si-lavora-al-ritorno-di-edvald-boasson-hagen/

EBH ----------> #ineos ?

Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 05, 2020, 18:48
#lotto Maxim van Gils (U23)
#ccc Kamil Małecki

--> #lotto Lotto Soudal

https://www.lottosoudal.be/en/news/ma%C5%82ecki-and-van-gils-sign-lotto-soudal

Malecki is a bit of an odd transfer, but he did some strong races this year
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on October 06, 2020, 22:19
Tonight's rumour in the Norwegian press is
#ef Kristoffer Halvorsen ---> #unox

"No comment" from #unox cycling boss Haugland

About Halvorsen, he has been struggling mentally during the corona crisis, won't race anymore this year as he is not well prepared for it,  and supposedly, he has accepted a 40% pay cut from #ef.  The one kind of rider that seems to be lacking in #unox is the sprinter that can win against serious competition. Doffen, as he is called, definetly has that capacity at his best, although it is more and more clear that #jumbo Amund Grøndal Jansen was a very important part of the U-23 world championship title.

He does know how to beat Cees Bool though.

(https://i.imgur.com/HE6anwA.png)
(ghost/missing up there with the stage 1 TdF podium finishers)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 07, 2020, 20:31
https://twitter.com/Rally_Cycling/status/1313898719113359363

Damn it. :angry

Very good signing for them.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 12, 2020, 22:04
#axeon Jens Reynders
#dhb Alex Colman
--> #vlaanderen Sport Vlaanderen - Baloise

good to see some of the more talented guys at #vlaanderen again
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Flo on October 15, 2020, 11:49
Finally we have some rumors for EOLO-Kometa beyond the speculation about Aru.

According to Gazzetta's Ciro, good old Belletti could join :dizzy
https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1316684894815358976

Tuttobici believes the following are among the new signings:
#androni Luca Pacioni
#uae Edward Ravasi
#tirol Samuele Rivi
#friuli Davide Bais

Tuttobici also mentions that Alessandro Fancellu will spend one more year with the team; he originally had an agreement with #trek for 2021 and 2022, as well as Antonio Puppio, who apparently also has an agreement with #trek for 2022 which I wasn't aware of.
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on October 16, 2020, 10:40
As previously rumoured, concerning the #ef ghostrider 
(https://i.imgur.com/HE6anwA.png)

Kristoffer Halvorsen #ef ---->  #unox

https://twitter.com/UnoXteam/status/1317016422552403973

(there's no doubt there's a huge potential in the former U23 world champion, compared to this year's results at least...)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on October 16, 2020, 10:44
This one was less conventional, more instructional and fun:

https://twitter.com/UnoXteam/status/1317011806569877504
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 16, 2020, 12:47
probably. Also #ccc Zakarin is rumored to have found a new home at #gazprom Gazprom-Rusvelo.

confirmed now :cheer

“I had an offer to stay in the World Tour, however when Renat (Khamidulin) contacted me and offered to join Gazprom-RusVelo I changed my mind. It is an exciting feeling to return to the team which played a vital role in my cycling career and where I would feel like home, because I know almost every teammate in person. The same applies to team Sport Director Dmitry Konyshev with whom we have worked and achieved great results together.”

Zakarin continues: “Speaking about my goals, I would like to be straight on the point — my aim is not to only share my experience, but to demonstrate maximum and achieve new victories with the team. We have already talked with team management about the race calendar of 2021. The stage-races in the first part of season will be my main focus and I will do my best to be at my peak form in spring.”


Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: t-72 on October 16, 2020, 14:27
More #unox rumours today...

#unox #champeu (U23) Jonas Iversby Hvideberg --> #sunweb   

(Still just a TV2 rumour but they were right about #ef Doffen, so....)

#sunweb apparently being seen as an attractive team for these youngsters, despite all the criticism levelled at the team by more experienced riders.

Maybe because it looks a bit like a development team at WT level?
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 16, 2020, 19:06
https://twitter.com/MazowszeCycling/status/1317121047192326144
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 17, 2020, 06:49
from today's Het Nieuwsblad:

(tbc) #ef Sep Vanmarcke --> #israel Israel Start-Up Nation

He could also sign for EF, Bahrain, Arkea or B&B, but Israel is offering him a three-year deal
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 17, 2020, 07:11
With the ever shrinking pool of cobbled riders that hadn't chosen to move elsewhere or extend with their team (Teuns, Trentin, GVA and Jungels all linked), this transfer was on the cards.

Three years seems excessive again, but maybe this is the only way they could guarantee the signing. If it was me a one-year deal would have made better sense or taking a punt on Valgren instead (even if he's not a specialist on the cobbles per se).
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 17, 2020, 07:41
yeah, it makes sense for both sides, I guess. One or two more good guys for the cobbles wouldn't hurt though.

This transfer comes as a bit more of a surprise to me:

#nippo Hidete Nakana --> #ef EF Pro Cycling

https://www.efprocycling.com/hideto-nakane-joins-ef-pro-cycling/
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: LukasCPH on October 17, 2020, 18:10
#sunweb apparently being seen as an attractive team for these youngsters, despite all the criticism levelled at the team by more experienced riders.

Maybe because it looks a bit like a development team at WT level?
Yes, I think that's it.
With all their structured stuff, #sunweb are a good destination for your first foray into the WT world. You can always sign for another team once your neo-pro deal is up. ;)
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 19, 2020, 15:12
https://twitter.com/TeamUAEAbuDhabi/status/1318097048051322880

Confirmation.

Quote
I will work for Pogačar when necessary, but I will also try to carve out chances for myself when I can.

At least he's honest about it.
Title: Re: Mens\' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 19, 2020, 19:36
#lotto Lotto Soudal plans to do a bit of an Autumn cleaning, according to today's Het Nieuwsblad:

#lotto Jelle Wallays
#lotto Tosh van der Sande
#lotto Nikolas Maes
#lotto Sander Armée
#lotto Rémy Mertz
#lotto Tomasz Marczyński
--> ?

Together they have 34 years of experience in the team, but due to a "change of philosophy" there's no room anymore. The team is more looking for younger riders now, and also a budget of cut of 1 1/2 million needs to be compensated.

Post Merge: September 29, 2020, 11:09
#lotto Adam Hansen, Jonathan Dibben, Rasmus Iversen and Brian van Goethem got the same letter from the management. So with Hagen and Dewulf already confirmed to leave as well, that's 12 out of 28 riders from 2020 gone. As a replacement, Lotto has signed 6 neo pros + #riwal Andreas Kron so far.

Looks like Tosh and Marczynski aaccepted a massive pay cut, and are staying for another year now nonetheless.

https://www.wielerkrant.be/nieuws/2020-10-19/tosh-van-der-sande-en-poolse-ploegmaat-krijgen-alsnog-contractverlenging-bij-lotto-soudal
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 19, 2020, 19:50
Looks like Tosh and Marczynski aaccepted a massive pay cut, and are staying for another year now nonetheless.

I did have a bit of a laugh at the shameless volte-face in the official tweet announcing the news. Late September they were ready to be jettisoned with little ceremony, but a few weeks later they're now described as "indispensable".
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 19, 2020, 19:59
yeah, but to be fair, Marczynski was on a three-year deal, signed right after winning two stages in the 2017 Vuelta, so he probably can't complain about a bad money/effort ratio during the past couple of years :dizzy
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 20, 2020, 09:06
https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1318419236272934912

https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1318446035270815744
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 21, 2020, 07:07
Yesterday @cirogazzetta said that #bahrain Battaglin would likely sign for #bardiani Bardiani, by the way, but that tweet has since been deleted. So either it's incorrect, or there's an official announcement form Bardiani due, they didn't want to be spoiled.

#bahrain Enrico Battaglin --> #bardiani Bardiani CSF Faizanè

The team at least looks very happy about the signing ;D

(https://www.bardianicsf.com/wp-content/uploads/post/Battaglin_Back-640x480.jpg)

https://www.bardianicsf.com/news/bardiani-csf-faizane-battaglin-is-back/
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: search on October 23, 2020, 07:04
that must have been some quick negotiations ;)

#ntt Ben O'Connor --> #ag2r Ag2R Citroen Team

https://www.cyclisme.ag2rlamondiale.fr/en/ben-oconnor-rejoint-ag2r-citroen-team-pour-un-an/

Vuillermoz needs to make room for him:

#ag2r Alexis Vuillermoz --> #total Total Direct Energie

https://teamtotaldirectenergie.com/alexis-vuillermoz-sengage-avec-le-team-total-direct-energie/
Title: Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2020-21
Post by: Leadbelly on October 23, 2020, 14:38
https://twitter.com/Rally_Cycling/status/1319624782917341184

Confirmation. He did do rather well in Portugal.

The team said yesterday, when they announced the extension of the Rally sponsorship, that the team would have 17 riders in 2021. I queried this with them as the UCI regs stated previously that non-Euro ProTeams needed at least 18 riders next year. However it turns out that at least for next year it is still just 16.

Anyway with De Kleijn, Sheffield and Swirbul (and maybe more - Guegan would be nice) all joining that means some will be leaving/retiring. Anderson, Britton and J. Murphy would be obvious choices.