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Title: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on August 27, 2019, 11:16
OVO Energy Tour of Britain 7th - 14th September

(https://i.imgur.com/FPCOG3X.png)


Stage 1  »  Glasgow  ›  Kirkcudbright (201.5km)

(https://i.imgur.com/M0xnRr6.png)

No whinging Scots this year. Phew! :P

Stage 2  »  Kelso  ›  Kelso (165.9km)

(https://i.imgur.com/MWjS0XX.png)

Ewan won here two years ago.

Stage 3  »  Berwick-upon-Tweed  ›  Newcastle-upon-Tyne (183.2km)

(https://i.imgur.com/iz3gFbB.png)

The race blurb counts this as an uphill finish.

Stage 4  »  Gateshead  ›  Kendal (173.2km)

(https://i.imgur.com/vjwnj77.png)

We were last here in 2016, but that was after The Struggle. To see a more likely outcome go back to 2013 when Ciolek outpunched Sam Bennett.

Stage 5  »  Birkenhead  ›  Birkenhead (174.1km)

(https://i.imgur.com/4TOF199.png)

Stage 6  »  Pershore  ›  Pershore TT (14.4km)

(https://i.imgur.com/OPGiNxO.png)

Stage 7  »  Warwick  ›  Burton Dassett Country Park (188.7km)

(https://i.imgur.com/VVRwyM3.png)

Very similar stage to what the women raced back in June.

Stage 8  »  Altrincham  ›  Manchester (166km)

(https://i.imgur.com/uRhtoNU.png)

Rather disappointing last 30km....

Official Website (https://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/)
Official Twitter (https://twitter.com/TourofBritain/with_replies)
#OVOToB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/OVOToB?src=hashtag_click&f=live)
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on August 27, 2019, 11:25
https://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/race/teams/

Competing teams:

 #ag2r
 #ef
 #lotto
 #mitchelton
 #movistar
 #didata
 #ineos
 #jumbo
 #katusha
 #sunweb

 #corendon
 #academy
 #riwal
 #vlaanderen
 #wanty

 #dhb
 #madison
 #swift
 #wiggins

 #teamgb
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on August 27, 2019, 11:30
Stage 6  »  Pershore  ›  Pershore TT (14.4km)

(https://i.imgur.com/OPGiNxO.png)

https://twitter.com/TourofBritain/status/1163711177387626496
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on August 27, 2019, 11:45
The Tour of Britain from yesteryear (1952):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZlhIaCuFdU

"What's the name of it?" :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6a61igaqcw

That would be a DSQ these days.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Drummer Boy on August 27, 2019, 14:00
(https://i.imgur.com/FPCOG3X.png)

Swim cap √

Swim googles √

Speedo √

So it's a triathlon, then?

(https://dbukjj6eu5tsf.cloudfront.net/sidearm.sites/usctrojans.com/images/2018/10/18/usc_trojans_m_swim_dive_thomas_reed.jpg)
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on August 28, 2019, 20:37
 #teamgb

https://twitter.com/BritishCycling/status/1166636665777078272
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 02, 2019, 10:06
 #ineos

https://twitter.com/TeamINEOS/status/1168445427722727424
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 03, 2019, 18:29
 #didata

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDi4BP2WwAg-jws?format=jpg)

A very high average age and very low expectations.

 #vlaanderen

https://twitter.com/TeamSVB/status/1168908930405285890

No win yet this season. but they have been peppering the top-ten recently.

 #madison

https://www.madisongenesis.co.uk/madison-genesis-name-2019-tour-of-britain-team

Mike Cuming
Jon Dibben
Matt Holmes
Johnny McEvoy
Erick Rowsell
Joey Walker

Final race for the team. Matt Holmes has been the man for them this year.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Servais Knavendish on September 03, 2019, 22:08
A final tour of the (north of the) country for Cav and co... left out of Worlds; is this the end of the road

with a track farewell at the 6's to come...


Hoping not but looking possibly probable...???
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 04, 2019, 07:59
#swift

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDkj2AxW4AEAMJ_?format=jpg)

#dhb

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDju6mUX4AcT-hF?format=jpg)

The team have really pushed on this year with some great results in Europe from various riders.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 04, 2019, 17:10
 #movistar

https://movistarteam.com/en/races/race/2019-tour-of-britain

Amador
Barbero
Carapaz
Landa
Sepulveda
Verona

Don't see a race winner here.

As an aside, the article says this is Movistar's last stage race of the year ie. no Guangxi for them. The Chinese race had 100% WT participation last year, but so far PCS only has ten of them competing this time round.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Mellow Velo on September 04, 2019, 18:19
#movistar

https://movistarteam.com/en/races/race/2019-tour-of-britain

Amador
Barbero
Carapaz
Landa
Sepulveda
Verona

Don't see a race winner here.

As an aside, the article says this is Movistar's last stage race of the year ie. no Guangxi for them. The Chinese race had 100% WT participation last year, but so far PCS only has ten of them competing this time round.

Great line up, but not the team you need for a stage race without a meaningful climb. :fp

Understandable that teams are no showing at Guangxi when it's the one Chinese race that gets hardly any air time.
Pointless in more ways than one. Reckon it'll go the way of Beijing, next year.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on September 05, 2019, 11:19
#movistar

https://movistarteam.com/en/races/race/2019-tour-of-britain

Amador
Barbero
Carapaz
Landa
Sepulveda
Verona

Don't see a race winner here.

As an aside, the article says this is Movistar's last stage race of the year ie. no Guangxi for them. The Chinese race had 100% WT participation last year, but so far PCS only has ten of them competing this time round.

Just seen this from Matt Rendell

https://twitter.com/mrendell/status/1169540850126348289

Anyone know anymore about it? Will we have another situation like the Giro start in Northern Ireland when some riders also had problems.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 05, 2019, 20:52
 #wanty

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDt1gePWkAIL_Y3?format=jpg)

Meurisse more often that not does well here.

 #jumbo

https://twitter.com/JumboVismaLive/status/1169631790358810624

Lots of talent on show here.

 #katusha

https://twitter.com/katusha_norway/status/1169530736774397952

I would have had Politt down as one of the big favourites, but his showing last week in Germany didn't match his form from a year ago. MWS could be a back-up plan.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 05, 2019, 20:56
 #lotto

https://lottosoudal.be/en/news/preview-tour-britain-2019

Tiesj Benoot
Jasper De Buyst
Frederik Frison
Rasmus Byriel Iversen
Rémy Mertz
Brent Van Moer

Benoot and De Buyst (after his great showing in Denmark) are the protected riders.

 #mitchelton

https://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/mitchelton-scott-with-strength-in-numbers-to-tackle-the-ovo-energy-tour-of-britain

Edoardo Affini - (ITA 23)
Jack Bauer - (NZ, 34)
Luke Durbridge - (AUS, 27)
Alexander Edmondson - (AUS, 25)
Cameron Meyer - (AUS 31)
Matteo Trentin - (ITA 29)
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on September 06, 2019, 12:06
https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/1169912347676282880

So no Carapaz at the ToB.

I wonder how many of the riders needed to apply for a Visa and have been able to get one.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 06, 2019, 12:06
https://twitter.com/mrendell/status/1169540850126348289

We have our answer now.  :secretlol

Between his missing the Vuelta, and now this, Movistar losing a ton of exposure he could've given the brand during his last hurrah.

Not exactly the plan the execs had in mind, I'm sure.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 06, 2019, 20:23
(https://i.imgur.com/zPFB0uh.png)

 :onfire1 :onfire1 :onfire1

Van Der Poel

However I'll put in a caveat in that he hasn't raced a proper TT since 2014. He's done prologues (and generally done pretty well), but nothing over a longer distance.

 :onfire1 :onfire1

Trentin and Teunissen

Chances for bonifications and both can put in a good TT when they have to.

 :onfire1

Cummings, Politt, Gallopin, Benoot, Jansen and Kamp

I was maybe a bit harsh earlier in the thread about Dimension Data having low expectations. Cummings was active in ARoN and can produce a great TT on occasion. The others listed are either slightly out of form or have a shortfall in TT-ing. They still could feature depending on how the stages pan out.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on September 06, 2019, 21:00
(https://i.imgur.com/zPFB0uh.png)

 :onfire1 :onfire1 :onfire1

Van Der Poel

However I'll put in a caveat in that he hasn't raced a proper TT since 2014. He's done prologues (and generally done pretty well), but nothing over a longer distance.

 :onfire1 :onfire1

Trentin and Teunissen

Chances for bonifications and both can put in a good TT when they have to.

 :onfire1

Cummings, Politt, Gallopin, Benoot, Jansen and Kamp

I was maybe a bit harsh earlier in the thread about Dimension Data having low expectations. Cummings was active in ARoN and can produce a great TT on occasion. The others listed are either slightly out of form or have a shortfall in TT-ing. They still could feature depending on how the stages pan out.

When I first had a look at the race route I thought the winner would likely be who ever is the best TTer in what I imagine would be a reduced group on the stage that finished in Kendal.

Then I remembered Van der Poel was in the race.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 06, 2019, 21:12
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 07, 2019, 03:28
At a glance, I see a total of only two riders from the U.S.

Chad Haga  #sunweb, and the mighty Lawrence Warbasse  #ag2r.

That's it? :slow

Slovenia = The New Colombia

United States = The New Luxembourg
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: search on September 07, 2019, 10:08
on paper those profiles look great for MvdP indeed, but can we say the same about his stage racing abilities?!

He has never done any race longer than four days, and even in those, he more than once won stage 1 and then couldn't quite hang on the following days.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 07, 2019, 20:10
https://twitter.com/dgplacenames/status/1170266167669395458

Interesting list of tweets about some of the places they visited on today's stage.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 07, 2019, 20:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG3aXrPBWOU

Cavendish just gives up. :S

Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: search on September 07, 2019, 20:22
Trond Trondsen is a name I like
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on September 07, 2019, 23:47

Cavendish just gives up. :S


Looked a bit like he was having a fight with a Sport Vlaanderen rider to get on someones wheel and when he lost that he gave up.

He made it to the finish avoiding the crashes and in the front group which is better than some of his recent results.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 08, 2019, 05:11
Trond Trondsen is a name I like

In the town I grew up in, there was a kid named Ken Nonken.

True story.  :D
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 08, 2019, 09:54
https://twitter.com/torkirra/status/1170613679676624897

More place name etymology.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 08, 2019, 19:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbr_h--S7zo

Groenewegen unable to come back after the climb.

Dowsett with a brave late attack, but died on the finishing cobbles when I thought he had it.


Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Carlo Algatrensig on September 08, 2019, 19:34
It seemed like a bit of a strange finish today. It looked like some of the riders misjudged where the finish was especially Teunissen with how in the last 50 metres he suddenly got out of the saddle to try to get past De Buyst
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 09, 2019, 19:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcuKUmXnz2w



Wasn't too sure myself whether that finish might have been a bit too much for Groenewegen, but he won easily.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 10, 2019, 19:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe9jbghhR-Y

Whoooooosshhhhhhh!

Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 10, 2019, 19:04
MvdP once again displaying his uniquely recognizable style of violently thrashing around on his machine.

You'd think his frame and cranks were made of rubber.  He shows no mercy to either his own bike or his competitors. It wasn't even as if he out-jumped them, or better-timed his attack—he was simply on a completely different level in those closing meters.

Interesting to note that he nearly sacrificed the singular second that allowed him to take the GC in that casual approach to the line.

I suspect that new adjectives will soon be necessary to describe his cycling dominance.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 11, 2019, 21:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80s-a_hWTs



Cummings crashed out.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 12, 2019, 20:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL44fBOQBzM

So he can TT up to 14.4km. That's still just about in the range where raw power can compensate somewhat for technique. Over 20+ km who knows though. His head was wobbling about a bit, but he looked okay and this is, I'm guessing, with very little practice at the discipline (if any at all!).



17 riders still within a minute and with some teams having multiple riders within that group, it's still not over.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: rote_laterne on September 13, 2019, 10:09
After the race MVDP said this was his first ITT since his junior days. I think at this discipline van Aert tops MVDP but there's still room for improvement.
Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Leadbelly on September 14, 2019, 05:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2T84UxzMV0

Title: Re: [2.HC] Tour of Britain
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 15, 2019, 01:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_Pqcf8bhQ



Hey, it worked!  :cool


Honestly, I can't remember ever seeing anyone thrash their bike quite as violently as MvdP seems to. One of the things I notice when watching older cycling clips, from the days of steel frames, is that the riders always appear more physical to me in the way that they handle their bikes. It would make sense that light-weight carbon fiber wouldn't require as much wrestling between rider and bike, but maybe there are other factors in play as well. I'll leave that to people more expert in the field.

But Mr. MTB, CX, Road King himself seems like a man out of time the way he literally man-handles his steed. Who else does that these days?

There's always one image that comes to mind when I see him in action, especially on an uphill sprint.

Exhibit A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjS3eSNuX_c



MvdP also usually looks like a giant on the bike and on the podium, but on paper, he's the exact same size and weight as I am.
(I'm no giant, btw. Although I am a bit leaner these days.  :P)


Big man
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/480/cpsprodpb/12AD8/production/_108740567_dsc_9876.jpg)

I find it all very curious. :slow