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Professional Cycling => Road Races => Topic started by: Leadbelly on October 25, 2019, 15:53

Title: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on October 25, 2019, 15:53
https://twitter.com/giroditalia/status/1187400308621623296

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHp9AXXXkAY8z6r?format=jpg)

Three TTs again, but still under 60km in total. Etna returns as well. Third time in four years (new higher finish?). Haven't investigated deeply to see how many km of gravel there are (if any).
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on October 25, 2019, 15:59
https://twitter.com/Cycling_TT/status/1187742635047432193

Yeah, but Sagan is yesterday's news or that's the way it feels to me.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on October 25, 2019, 16:08
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1187706609633509381

Vegni wants all three Italian PCT teams there. That will only be possible if Total turn down the auto-wildcard. I can't see that happening. They were interested in going this year and while they might very well turn down some of the other WT races (Hi TDU and Cadel Evans), they surely won't for one of the Grand Tours.

Of course, even after Vegni saying this, it wouldn't surprise me if he invited Gazprom anyway instead of Androni or whoever. Talk is cheap months ahead of the race.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Mellow Velo on October 25, 2019, 16:29
 I hope they have put a lot of thought into their contingency plans for stages 18 and 20 is all.
Twice over 2700 metres is a big risk and this year's Gavia alternative was awful.

My favourite stage is 12: the Cesenatico stage...........................right up until it isn't.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/zD9yBkX4M9Q27nzpjjeL_231019-013148-968x427.jpg)
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: just some guy on October 25, 2019, 18:05
Giro doing whatever the TDF and Vuelta are not in 2020.

Quiet smart before the Tokyo Olympics. Very hard training block and long enough recovery,  altitude Olympics program
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on October 26, 2019, 00:28
Italy's gain is California's loss.

But since California always feels like a loss for the rest of us, I'd say this just evens the score a bit.

Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: M Gee on October 26, 2019, 12:53

Yeah, but Sagan is yesterday's news or that's the way it feels to me.
:o :o :S  Huh? I must have missed something.

But since California always feels like a loss for the rest of us, I'd say this just evens the score a bit.

:lol  Not sure where that came from, but it got a chuckle!
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on October 26, 2019, 20:02
:o :o :S  Huh? I must have missed something.

There's these new guys on the scene the kids are going crazy for. Rimco and Matthew I think they're called. ;)
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on October 29, 2019, 21:23
But since California always feels like a loss for the rest of us, I'd say this just evens the score a bit.

Now we know why!   :P


Bye bye, Amgen ToC. :hi
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on November 13, 2019, 09:01
https://twitter.com/velonews/status/1194237568306556928

https://twitter.com/AG2RLMCyclisme/status/1194534045402710016

Nibali and Bardet both targeting the Giro next year. Very tough to ride for GC at the Tour and then go for gold in Tokyo a few days later, so I think several other names will follow them.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on December 03, 2019, 17:56
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1201916108158242816

Not official, but it doesn't look like Total will take up their auto-wildcard for the Giro.

The Pickles (or Gazprom) would be the likely beneficiaries.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Joelsim on December 03, 2019, 18:00
Who are The Pickles?
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Joelsim on December 03, 2019, 18:01
Looks like Dumo for the Giro, Roglic for the Tour. And the others to fit in around that.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on December 03, 2019, 18:02
Neri Sottoli = Black Pickles
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Joelsim on December 03, 2019, 18:02
Neri Sottoli = Black Pickles

Ah ok.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Joelsim on December 03, 2019, 18:04
Ah ok.

I'd really like to see Uno-X given a berth, surely they're a better team than The Pickles, or Bardiani. Italian PCT teams have really fallen off in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on December 04, 2019, 07:35
#bora

https://twitter.com/BORAhansgrohe/status/1201978274550820864

Sagan + Ackermann + Majka + Schachmann ---------> Giro
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: LukasCPH on December 04, 2019, 07:54
I'd really like to see Uno-X given a berth, surely they're a better team than The Pickles, or Bardiani. Italian PCT teams have really fallen off in the last couple of years.
Good to hear that it's not just us Scandis liking #unox - but the 2020 Giro would probably come too soon for them.

Or maybe not ... and the DS knows how to win a Giro stage or two. :shh
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: search on December 06, 2019, 07:30
#bora

Sagan + Ackermann + Majka + Schachmann ---------> Giro

+Konrad

(https://i.prcdn.co/img?file=9gf12019120600000000001001&page=79&scale=99)
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Joelsim on December 06, 2019, 13:58
+Konrad

(https://i.prcdn.co/img?file=9gf12019120600000000001001&page=79&scale=99)

They’re going to have 8 leaders and no Doms.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: search on December 06, 2019, 15:28
They’re going to have 8 leaders and no Doms.

I was thinking the same at first, but it's probably gonna be those 5 in the end + some doms. Maybe Selig or Oss/Gatto for the sprint preparations, Benedetti and some mountain dom like Fabbro or so.

Good to see Schachmann doing the Giro instead of the Tour, by the way, as he is probably "our" best #teamde bet for Tokyo.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Joelsim on December 06, 2019, 15:37
I was thinking the same at first, but it's probably gonna be those 5 in the end + some doms. Maybe Selig or Oss/Gatto for the sprint preparations, Benedetti and some mountain dom like Fabbro or so.

Good to see Schachmann doing the Giro instead of the Tour, by the way, as he is probably "our" best #teamde bet for Tokyo.

Possibly, yes. Although there is also Buchmann, Zimmermann and Schwarzmann.

Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: search on December 06, 2019, 16:18
it's certainly a man's race, yes
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on December 21, 2019, 08:10
#jumbo

https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/dit-moet-je-weten-van-de-jumbo-visma-presentatie/

George Bennett
Koen Bouwman
Dylan Groenewegen
Lennard Hofstede
Amund Grøndahl Jansen
Paul Martens
Antwan Tolhoek
Mike Teunissen

So at the moment no GT in 2020 for Eenkhoorn, Foss, Harper, Leezer, Lindeman, Pfingsten, Roosen, Taco, Vingegaard and Wynants.
Title: Re: Giro 2020 General Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on December 27, 2019, 18:20
https://twitter.com/AS_Colombia/status/1210599997063991296

No Giro for Bernal. Unsurprising despite some flirtation the past months.