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Title: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 19, 2019, 20:56
Hi all, and welcome to the 2020 CQ Ranking Manager Game! This is the tenth edition of the game. Please see below for some history, basics, and more specific rules related to dates, dopers, etc.

History


The game was launched on December 8th 2010 (https://forum.cyclingnews.com/threads/cq-ranking.13361/) by cyclingnews forum poster Hugo Koblet. His idea was to have a game where you build a cycling team from the website cqranking.com and its comprehensive numerical rankings of riders. What was originally meant to be a 25-team max competition that Hugo reserved the right to cancel if there was lack of interest became the most successful game in cyclingnews forum history, and has expanded to velorooms forums as well.

Hugo successfully ran the game for 3 years, and it bred various offshoots, such as a youth game, seasonal games (classics and GTs), emerging riders and riders in decline games. I took over organizing the main game for 2014 when Hugo got too busy, and have done so for the past five years. See the second post in this thread for a roll of honour of yearly champions.


That is it for preamble. Let’s go through the more comprehensive set of rules:

Basics


The game is based on the point system developed by the website www.cqranking.com. Based on this system you will have to select a team of between 25 and 33 riders whose combined value doesn’t exceed 7500 points. 7500 points is a fair bit under the mean for the ProTour teams whose mean for 2019 is 8716. 7500 is closest to the amount of points Trek Segafredo made this season, the 11th ranked of the 18 WT teams.

Your aim then is to select a team of riders who will increase their 2019 score the most during the 2020 season. The winner of the game is the one who has selected the team with the highest combined value when the game ends.


1. How the game works

1.1. Start & Finish

The season starts when the first race giving CQ points is held (which is the Aussie National Road Championships on January 8th) and ends when the last major race (.1 or higher) is held. The winner will be crowned when the next update after the last major race is out.*

*An extension will be granted to the end of season if it is very close at the top. If any teams are within 100 points of the leader after the last major race, the season will be automatically extended until the final race of the year unless all teams within 100 points explicitly concede. As well, anyone in the top 10 can extend the season by PMing me a request to do so before the last major race starts.

(The reason for this rule is that although minor races go through December, it is rare to have a rider in the game participate in these races, so it is sensible to end the season when people are still generally watching cycling. But if it's a very close race, it's important to crown the person who picked the best team for the year.)

1.2 Updates
Each week we will publish an update with a top 10 and a list of the high scorers and high jumpers. This will sometimes be by me, and sometimes by others – I will be setting a tentative schedule based on volunteers.



Post Merge: December 19, 2019, 20:59


2. On doping

2.1. On ex-dopers
All riders are available to choose, except for riders who are provisionally suspended by the UCI (as of their most recent list (https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-08-29-provisional-suspensions.pdf?sfvrsn=14d705b4_258)).

Riders who have been suspended for doping and had that affect their 2019 score will not be available simply for their 2019 score. Instead, a rider’s value will be equivalent to that of his last full season; or, if he has more recently had a (not full, due to suspension) season in which he has earned more points, that season represents his value. Riders who have been suspended by the UCI (ie. Not merely provisionally suspended) are on this list (http://uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-08-29-sanctions.pdf?sfvrsn=3ab4874a_189).

Therefore, you can pick any rider you like, but if you want to take Davide Appollonio, for example (his suspension ended in 2019), he got 38 points in 2019, but that is a partial season as his ban ended mid-season. His positive result and suspension came from 2015, meaning his last 'full' season was 2014, in which he scored 237 points. He scored fewer points in his 'partial' 2015 season (102) and his 'partial' 2019 season, so his cost is his last 'full' season. But if he had scored, say, 300 points in 2015 or 2019, that would be his cost instead.

Hopefully the lists I've provided and the rules are clear enough, but if you make an error I will try to let you know if any of your submissions fall into this category.

2.2. Riders getting caught during the season
If you include a rider in your team who gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar, nothing happens right away. Your rider keeps his points unless the cqranking.com deletes his results before the end of the game.

Basically, the value of a rider on cqranking.com always stands.

3. Submitting your team

3.1. How do I?

You pick between 25 and 33 riders whose combined value doesn’t exceed 7500 points and send the list to me.

As I will manually have to include the teams into the Microsoft Excel file which keeps track of the scores, please be careful that you send your team to me based on the correct formula. I don’t take any responsibility for any error you might make. If I spot an error I will do my best to contact you but I can’t guarantee anything. Of course, if you have any questions feel free to ask either here in this thread or by sending a personal message.

The layout you need to use is this:

VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
SAGAN Peter
Etc.

Nothing else. No point scores after the name. Also, be careful that there is no “space” after the name, because I will have to delete it manually, but can't always detect these things in time for the game. If there is an error that isn't discovered until after the game starts, and that error makes your team ineligible (eg. if it puts your team over the limit) the rider will simply be deleted from the team without replacement.

To make things easier for both you and me I will link to a file for you to download in which you can type in your team and it will automatically show you the value of each rider as well as the aggregated value of your team. Then you will just have to copy your team (names only) directly from this file and send it to me.

Hopefully this clears any misunderstandings of a rider’s value as well as reduces the number of errors made in a team sent to me.

3.2. When do I?

The first race of the season will start January 8, so I want to have your team in hand on January 6 at the latest.

There are two deadlines: a submission deadline and a revision/publication deadline, spaced 24 hours apart. This is to address the issue brought up in recent years about whether it is 'fair' to allow changes after teams have seen the teams of other players, and for 'late' submissions. I would like to make this a game that is accessible to as many people as possible, yet preserve that element of fairness. So, the submission deadline will be when I want to have received all the teams. The revision and publication deadline is to allow a 24-hour period for me to look over the teams and allow a chance to people to change their team in case of error, before having access to a list of riders that other teams picked. If you get mixed up with the time zone or unexpectedly don't have internet access around the submission deadline, I will accept teams up to the revision deadline at my discretion, but if allowed those teams will not have the chance to revise in case of error.

The submission deadline is 23:59 (CET) January 5th, so early January 6th for Aussies and sometime earlier on January 5th for North Americans. The revision and publication deadline is 24 hours later; I would ask that people refrain from posting the riders on their team until after that, so midnight CET on the start of January 7th.

Please note that even though it feels as though the season is over, it’s actually not. There are still a bit of racing to be done and CQ points to be handed out that could affect the value of a rider you have picked. It is always possible that an obscure rider may score points in a small race at the end of season, or that CQ will adjust points for an earlier season race for whatever reason (eg. readjusting points for suspended dopers) Be mindful of these changes.

cqranking.com usually uploads the final update of the season on December 31, and the values in this update are the ones we’re using. However, the changes are usually very small so there’s no reason why you can’t start selecting your team already today!

Disclaimer: ensuring your team is full of eligible riders and is on budget is your responsibility. If I notice you are over budget or have an ineligible rider I will send you a message, but if you don't get back to me in time, or I don't catch it before the deadline, I will simply remove one rider to make your budget work. Obviously it is to your advantage to be able to choose all your riders, so please be diligent.

Create Your Team


Hugo created a very helpful file in 2012, referred to above, that helps avoid any errors in calculation and helps ensure you are formatting your rider names correctly. I would encourage everyone to use this option, especially if you are not confident in your spreadsheet creating skills. Please use the file attached here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ickpnt0jo2y5ofi/Create%20Your%20Team%202020.xls?dl=0) to create your team, then copy and paste the rider names to send to me by PM once you have it correct. Thank you.

note: the 'create your team' file has not yet been manually updated to include different scores for dopers as per rule 2.1, so it is currently wholly your responsibility to account for this.


I think that about covers everything. If you have any questions or if I forgot to add or explain anything, please let me know.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on December 19, 2019, 20:58
This post is reserved to list submitted teams as they come in. If you have submitted a team recently and don't see it appear within 24 hours, please message me to see what is up. Teams on the list marked with an asterisk need a change, and I have messaged you with the details.

Here are the 69 teams I've received as of January 4th 5:00pm CST:

1   Armchair Cyclist
2   Martin
3   Nicosix
4   Total Package
5   Luthor
6   Koronin
7   LaFlorecita
8   Lortnoc
9   Jon_Ezeitza
10   Hakkie2
11   CQ Player 7373
12   mayomaniac
13   comodoro
14   bminchow
15   dimasotf
16   armchairclimber
17   hfgon1
18   Riverside
19   Salvarani
20   vladimir
21   Leadbelly
22   Joelsim
23   VeloRooms
24   Rakim
25   Object
26   EvansIsTheBest
27   christopher rowe
28   NorthAmericanScum
29   laarsland
30   Blues in the bottle
31   Crevaison
32   mineralJ
33   triley36
34   Tsyka
35   tobydawq
36   Wallenquist
37   TheArt
38   ChrisDK
39   scrooll07
40   LosBrolin
41   Kazistuta
42   Jpettersen
43   search
44   escartin
45   Muddy Waters
46   shalgo
47   Nathanptz
48   Poles & co.
49   Eric10
50   trackstand
51   Hugo Koblet
52   fauniera
53   flashke
54   yoyokt
55   Otoxiep87
56   tom-jelte
57   AlyKaptan
58   will10
59   repre
60   Mellow Velo
61   Northerner
62   Bonimenier
63   DJ Sprtsch
64   Geraint Too Fast
65   Marek
66   BlueRoads
67   zlev11
68   Popchu
69   AupaPyama



Also, here is the role of honour from previous years:

2011 – 87 participants
ingsve – 13897 points
Waterloo Sunrise – 13450
mc_mountain – 12670

2012 – 129 participants
skidmark – 19345 points
Kvinto – 18087
Nyssinator – 17761

2013 – 132 participants
SteelyDan – 13094 points
Geraint Too Fast – 13074
will10 – 12986

2014 – 150 participants
Pentacycle – 14367 points
Cykeltyven – 13693
Ruudz0r - 13609

2015 – 155 participants
Cykeltyven – 16209 points
skidmark - 15616
snccdcno - 15412

2016 – 144 participants
skidmark – 15392 points
jeroenk - 14707
abbulf – 14448

2017 – 131 participants
fauniera – 15867 points
the asian - 15698
GP Blanco - 15217

2018 – 129 participants
ruvu75 – 16513 points
Squire - 16099
trackstand - 15832

2019 - 114 participants

fauniera - 14579 points
karaev - 14399
Hakkie2 - 14260
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: just some guy on December 20, 2019, 19:25
10 year anniversary :win
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on December 21, 2019, 13:18
Team Flo is in, playing on extra hard difficulty as I had to include my Kometa boys of course :D
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on December 22, 2019, 10:21
Right enough messing about with my team. :D

WT - 12 riders
PCT - 12 riders
CT - 9 riders

That's roughly the same as last year. Belgium the most represented nation again with Italy just behind.

Slightly more cryptically my team contains the following diacritical marks:

umlaut x 2
tilde x 1
acute x 1
circumflex x 1
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on December 22, 2019, 12:23
My team is in.

Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on December 30, 2019, 18:57
It's rather unlikely it will make a difference at the end of the year, but there will be a 2.2 race that kicks off the 2020 CQ season before the 6th Jan deadline - Cambodia Bay Cycling Tour.

Pick a Sapura or Terengganu rider and you might get a "headstart" on everybody.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 03, 2020, 21:31
I think I’ve got this one in the bag.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: rote_laterne on January 05, 2020, 13:11
I wasn't sure I could compose a team this year but I did. Haven't had the time to follow cycling this much in the last month. Looking forward to following the race results again and starting to work on my youth team tonight. I couldn't even start at my emerging riders team :S
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on January 05, 2020, 17:36
*it 8
*fr 7
*nl 4
*es 3
*au 2
*dk 2
*de 2
*ch 2
*be 1
*lu 1
*pl 1

500+: 3
250-500: 8
100-250: 13
0-100: 9

Average age 25.5

Most represented team #sunweb
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 05, 2020, 17:48
The breakdown of my team.

33 riders of various nationalities, points and abilities.

<7,500: 33

Average age 20>30
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 06, 2020, 06:48
Hey all! A couple of things:

- first, submission deadline is up but publication deadline is in 16.5 hours from when I write this... in case you just realized with dread that you forgot to submit a team, I reserve the right to accept teams right up until the deadline, seeing as no one will have seen published teams (except that one upthread I guess). So go right ahead. I will also accept last minute changes.

- the time of the submission deadline will be tricky for me, as I'll be in transit (it's 5pm my time in Canada, and I'll be travelling well into the evening). So, I may not confirm changes until the following morning (my time), but if you've sent me something with the proper time stamp it will be accepted.

- that also means I won't be able to preside over the reveal, and won't be able to get the final spreadsheet out to peruse teams/popularity/etc until the following day. Sorry, just bad timing this year. Should be out by evening CET on the 7th.

- I received over 30 teams today so I didn't update the OP with the list because it was hard enough to keep up; basically, I sent everyone a confirmation message so you should have that on PM.

- we are roughly on par with last year in terms of participating teams, maybe a few less. Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 06, 2020, 16:26
Due to never remembering to pick riders before Christmas and being on holiday between Christmas and today, I had resigned myself to not entering this year. But skidmark's respite opened a window for me, and I threw together a team anyway:

*dk 6
*fr 4
*it 3
*us 3
*be 2
*ch 2
*co 2
*gb 2
*nl 2
*au 1
*de 1
*lt 1
*lv 1
*no 1
*si 1
*sr 1

#worldtour 22
#proconti 11
Zero Conti or lower this year. It's the pros who win most points!

Points Riders
1000+ 0
750-999 1
500-749 5
350-499 1
250-349 5
150-249 4
75-149 6
1-74 10
0 1
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 06, 2020, 17:11
Better late than never Mr K.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 06, 2020, 18:34
Better late than never Mr K.
And because I had no time to think much about it but basically chucked in whoever I came across first, I have no expectations whatsoever of doing well. :D
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Archieboy on January 06, 2020, 19:40
I think I’ve got this one in the bag.

That's what's called 2020 vision
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 06, 2020, 19:47
That's what's called 2020 vision

Just going by previous years Archie. Eternal winner.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 06, 2020, 19:48
And because I had no time to think much about it but basically chucked in whoever I came across first, I have no expectations whatsoever of doing well. :D

Nothing like getting your excuses in early Fus.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 06, 2020, 20:28
Zero Conti or lower this year. It's the pros who win most points!

I dunno.

Armchair had go here (https://forum.cyclingnews.com/threads/the-2019-cq-ranking-manager-thread.34373/page-59#post-2409055) at picking the best possible 2019 team. I count six riders CT (that's including Geniets who made the jump to WT mid-season). There's definitely gold to be found at the lower levels, as long as you don't spend too much on it.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 06, 2020, 20:35
I dunno.

Armchair had go here (https://forum.cyclingnews.com/threads/the-2019-cq-ranking-manager-thread.34373/page-59#post-2409055) at picking the best possible 2019 team. I count six riders CT (that's including Geniets who made the jump to WT mid-season). There's definitely gold to be found at the lower levels, as long as you don't spend too much on it.
That may be true - but for that, you'd have to spend time prospecting, so to say. ;)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 06, 2020, 23:40
It's rather unlikely it will make a difference at the end of the year, but there will be a 2.2 race that kicks off the 2020 CQ season before the 6th Jan deadline - Cambodia Bay Cycling Tour.

Pick a Sapura or Terengganu rider and you might get a "headstart" on everybody.

The race is over, and there are 7 riders already in profit, if anyone picked them
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 07, 2020, 05:39
Team Crash Bang Wallop:

SCHACHMANN Maximilian
EVENEPOEL Remco
PINOT Thibaut
MARTIN Daniel
PICCOLI James
ARANBURU DEBA Alexander
LATOUR Pierre
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
VAN POPPEL Danny
CHERKASOV Nicolay
GABBURO Davide
BALLERINI Davide
SCHELLING Patrick
MOLENAAR Alex
HERMANS Quinten
VAKOC Petr
TUREK Daniel
BASSETT Stephen
MODOLO Sacha
CAÑAVERAL VARGAS Jonathan
VERVAEKE Louis
SLEEN Torjus
ÄRM Rait
HÄNNINEN Jaakko
BAUGNIES Jérôme
TOUPALIK Adam
KOOISTRA Marten
EINHORN Itmar
HINDSGAUL MADSEN Jacob
DE BIE Sean
BANASZEK Alan
MILES Carson
FANCELLU Alessandro

Going by the teams posted on CN so far, it looks like my most popular picks will be Pinot, Latour, Soler, Hermans, Modolo and De Bie.

Some musings on the riders later on.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 07, 2020, 09:10
Team Velociraptor

SAGAN Peter
EVENEPOEL Remco
PINOT Thibaut
YATES Simon
HIRSCHI Marc
MOSCON Gianni
LATOUR Pierre
DUMOULIN Tom
ROOSEN Timo
OOMEN Sam
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan
VAKOC Petr
FOSS Tobias Svendsen
GROVES Kaden
VAN WILDER Ilan
BAGIOLI Andrea
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
FROOME Chris
RIES Michel
POWER Robert
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto
OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro
ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo
JERMAN Ziga
KIRYIENKA Vasil
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso
CAVENDISH Mark
COVI Alessandro
KANTER Max
DE BIE Sean
ARENSMAN Thymen
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
SIMMONS Quinn


Strange that I left Hermans out as I've picked him in pretty much every fantasy game I've done this year. Duh.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 07, 2020, 09:35
My team, more words later on maybe:

SCHACHMANN Maximilian
YATES Simon
KWIATKOWSKI Michal
MERLIER Tim
MOHORIC Matej
LATOUR Pierre
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
DUMOULIN Tom
ROOSEN Timo
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
CANOLA Marco
KREUZIGER Roman
ARU Fabio
OOMEN Sam
HERMANS Quinten
MOSCHETTI Matteo
VAKOC Petr
WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads
HAAS Nathan
BATTAGLIN Enrico
LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose
CELANO Danilo
THWAITES Scott
FROOME Chris
GENIEZ Alexandre
MODOLO Sacha
BUSATO Matteo
TOUPALIK Adam
VICHOT Arthur
KANTER Max
BANASZEK Alan
DE BIE Sean

a bit of a #alpecin overdose
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: rote_laterne on January 07, 2020, 13:25
When working on my youth an emerging riders teams I think I found some good picks but was too lazy to change my main game team except subbing in Sean De Bie for Dibben. I mainly filled my team up with cheap neo-pros I don't know nothing about, especially the Colombian ones.

After reading the revealed teams so far I like my team (we are not talking winning here as Joelsim's got this in the bag). Seems like I missed no obvious pick except for probably Ballerini. Others like Bardet, Pinot, Kwiatkowski, Cavendish, Froome or Bouhanni I did not include in my team for one reason or another. I like Bardets season but opted for Gaviria who I hope will show his true potential when paired with Richeze again. Kwiatkowski I like and he will have a better season but I dislike the team he rides for and I'm not sure he will get his chances at the smaller tours with all the new prospects wanting to have their chances too.

GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   731
YATES Simon   668  when staying healthy he should double his points.
PEDERSEN Mads   583 risky pick but I had him last year and I'm betting on Trek riding a better spring campaign as a whole
MADOUAS Valentin   540 risky pick but confirmed his neo pro season and should get more chances than Gaudu.
MOSCON Gianni   424 potential to triple his score as there are no classic riders left at INEOS.
HIRT Jan   355 risky but I think he gets his chances this year going for GC and stages.
LATOUR Pierre   352 potential to double his points before starting the tour.
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   350 should get his chances at Movistar now.
DUMOULIN Tom   341
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   322 hope he's improving even more.
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   268 should at least double his scores.
DURBRIDGE Luke   229 hoping for a good spring campaign without health issues.
CORT NIELSEN Magnus   227 I like this guy and hope he shows his true potential at his new team.
O'CONNOR Ben   221 don't really know but he showed talent two seasons ago.
SAJNOK Szymon   221 should be CCC no 1 sprinter now
PADUN Mark   209 missed half a season, has potential and should get his chances.
GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul   207 had him in my youth team years ago.
ARU Fabio   194 everyone has him and there's a albeit slim chance he has a good season
LEKNESSUND Andreas   186 hope he dominates the U23 scene this year
OOMEN Sam   179 massive talent
KÄMNA Lennard   155 massive talent
CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever   144 no idea
DILLIER Silvan   101 has potential for another 400+ season
BAGIOLI Andrea   83 massive talent at DQS should translate in lot of points
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   52 maybe the best of my Colobian lot?
ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   44
HÄNNINEN Jaakko   41 hoping for top tens in french 1.1 races
JOHANSEN Julius   38 impressed me two season ago
ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego   20
KANTER Max   8 should get his chances when staying healthy
De Bie Sean   5 PCT should mean lots of points, the talent is there
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos   0 zero pointer
SIMMONS Quinn   0
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 07, 2020, 13:32
I appear to be the only person without Aru, so that probably means he’ll have an excellent season, a Phoenix from the flames.

Also, Leknessund is riding PCT this year at Uno-X, rather than U23.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: LukasCPH on January 07, 2020, 16:19
Also, Leknessund is riding PCT this year at Uno-X, rather than U23.
He'll probably still do a fair share of U23 races, either with #unox or the Norwegian national team.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 07, 2020, 18:58
a bit of a #alpecin overdose

They did recruit pretty smartly. Somewhat reminiscent of ICA's transfers from 18/19 in that most of them were very cheap from a CQ standpoint and that turned out okay in the main last year.

Merlier was in my team too for a long while, but was culled towards the end.

SAJNOK Szymon   221 should be CCC no 1 sprinter now

Trentin says hi. :P

Saying that he still should do okay. I don't rate Mareczko myself at all, though he has had some operation over the winter on his septum, maybe that will be the new "iliac op" people have when they have a poor season.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 07, 2020, 19:06
They did recruit pretty smartly. Somewhat reminiscent of ICA's transfers from 18/19 in that most of them were very cheap from a CQ standpoint and that turned out okay in the main last year.

Merlier was in my team too for a long while, but was culled towards the end.

Trentin says hi. :P

Saying that he still should do okay. I don't rate Mareczko myself at all, though he has had some operation over the winter on his septum, maybe that will be the new "iliac op" people have when they have a poor season.

I’m pretty sure it isn’t  Marezcko’s septum thats responsible for his pathetically poor positioning on every final bend. Almost as if he doesn’t want to get involved in a sprint anymore.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 07, 2020, 20:00
Okay, here goes:



the full spreadsheet!!! (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3em3v593q7z3620/CQ%202020%20final.xlsx?dl=0)



Includes: 113 teams, popularity sheet, rider popularity table, team popularity table.



Note that on the popularity sheets I just entered names with numbers as names, so 'ruvu' instead of 'ruvu75' or 'Eric' instead of 'Eric10' - in copying popularity this is the time consuming part because dragging the name goes up in number, so just to get this done expediently I didn't manually do that copying (I've got a broken wrist atm too which hampers my computering).



Does not yet include: I haven't updated the 'update' sheets or gotten rid of team pages from previous entrants, so there are some blank pages but the pages linked to on the rankings tab should be all the participants. I'll clean that all up before the season gets too far along.



If I missed any teams (ie you submitted them and don't see them here) or if you thought you got changes in under the wire that aren't reflected, let me know and I can go back through my PM's to check the timestamp. I caught myself on one occasion making changes to a team but the link on the first page went to another team's page (all of which I've since corrected), so I almost copied over another team incorrectly. So I acknowledge these mistakes may still be out there.



Okay, have fun with it!
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: rote_laterne on January 07, 2020, 20:02
Trentin says hi. :P

 :S How could I forget about him?
Should have gone with Dainese or Groves then.
I'm pretty sure that's not my only mistake though.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 08, 2020, 08:49
a couple of words about my team (ignoring those fairly "obvious" ones, picked 50+ times)

SCHACHMANN Maximilian (1087, 2)
He basically missed half of the season last year, and will win the Ardennes triple + the Olympics.

MERLIER Tim (523, 5)
Same here, just joined Corendon in June and still scored >500 points. Personally I'd say he's is better than guys like van Asbroeck or Planckaert who had 1000+ seasons with a more or less similar calendar.

MOHORIC Matej (512, 14)
Mohoric is always fun to follow, and I'd say especially in the classics there's more to expect from him this year.

ROOSEN Timo (272, 5)
In 2019 Roosen basically missed all his best races due to injury.

ANDERSEN Søren Kragh (268, 43)
Same here, after a good start to the season he had problems in the Tour and fell sick in Eneco (which was supposed to be his highlight of the year). A solid ~500pt should be possible again

CORT NIELSEN Magnus (227, 38)
Cort was actually one of my first picks, but then also one of the first to be scrapped again, as his sprinting speed basically has disappeared and as there are too many similar riders at Ef. Now he is back on, for a reason I don't really know :dizzy

CANOLA Marco (205, 7)
I wanted to have at least one of the new Gazprom recruitments, and I think (if he can motivate himself) from Chernetskiy, Strakhov and him, Canola just has the most potential.

KREUZIGER Roman (204, 6)
Not the rider he once was anymore, but Kreuziger is still strong in the classics (crashed in Fleche this year, so no points in the Ardennes from 2019) and also the Olympics should suit him.

HERMANS Quinten (162, 10)
I really couldn't miss a rider who started his (very limited) program on the road with 3 wins in 3 days in 2019.

MOSCHETTI Matteo (160, 24)
He really surprised me with some very strong showing, and probably would have scored way more without the injury in the 2nd half of the season. The fact that Degenkolb is gone now, shouldn't hurt either.

VAKOC Petr (145, 20)
Vakoc's results in Poland and so on looked promising enough for me to believe, that he will be back at his best again this season.

WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads (137, 4)
Würtz has never really delivered in the WT so far, but he really made a step up last year and looked great at times in the Tour and the races afterwards. Not sure about his role at ICA, but he said he'd get his chances to go for success himself.

HAAS Nathan (118, 40)
He'll probably be frustrating to follow for most of the season, but I'd be surprised not to see him in profit by the end of January.

BATTAGLIN Enrico (112, 6)
Bahrain is not really the team I was hoping him to join, but as long as Colbrelli doesn't decide to do the Giro in 2020, he should get his opportunities.

LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose (106, 4)
It can't get any worse, I guess. He should get all backing he needs back home at #euskadi , and on paper, most of those early races in Spain should be pretty good for him.

CELANO Danilo (102, 3)
:cheer

THWAITES Scott (79, 4)
Van der Poel can't do every race, I guess. Give Thwaites a muddy, cobbled semi-classic at freezing temperatures, and he'll win it.

GENIEZ Alexandre (68, 42)
I don't really know much about his problems in 2019, but if he only needs to get somewhat close to his normal level again to end up with a good profit.

BUSATO Matteo (58, 1)
Busato had some good seasons at #fluo before, Vini Zabu should be bad enough for him to get the leader's role plenty of times, and the team's usual interest in the Coppa Italia (with guys also sprinting for 5th) shouldn't hurt either.

TOUPALIK Adam (34, 3)
First full season on the road for Toupalik. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a handful of wins

BANASZEK Alan (5, 5)
Same here. Back home in Poland young Alan should deliver strong results in the sprints - and if some Polish 2.1 races turn out to be flat enough for the sprinters to feature in GC, even better.


Popular picks I missed:

SIMMONS Quinn (0, 76)
CAVENDISH Mark (25, 70)
PINOT Thibaut (861, 60)
MOSCON Gianni (424, 57)
ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo (44, 57)
BARDET Romain (734, 54)
BOUHANNI Nacer (276, 52)

apart from Pinot, I never really considered any of those, tbh.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 08, 2020, 10:49
Thirteen uniques, but that's not good enough to be bottom of the popularity table again.  :(

To be fair the two teams below do only have 25 riders which kinda helps keeping the score down, and one of them will be over budget when the spelling mistake is spotted.

Ignoring those picked by ten or more teams, here are the rest of the team.

BANASZEK Alan (5)

Same reasons as search. :P

MARTIN Daniel (4)

At one point I only had one I-SUN rider on the team and it was Cousin Dan. I can't see him scoring massively, but maybe he can get all of his cost back with a little bit of profit.

ARANBURU DEBA Alexander (3)

Not so sure about this pick on reflection. Was probably too swayed by his Vuelta stage 2 performance, but we'll see.

MOLENAAR Alex (3)

Winner of the Turul Romaniei! Need I say anymore? Well okay, in a team of such low quality as Burgos he should get free-rein almost immediately to ride for himself.

VERVAEKE Louis (3)

It's unlikely he'll ever get back to the form of his Lotto U23 days, but he's better than the results and scores from his previous years.

BAUGNIES Jérôme (3)

He was almost going to be my Continental Dominator selection, but I decided to keep him for myself. Canyon had a good season last year in Europe and that (+ Baugnies himself) might open the door to a few more race invitations.

TOUPALIK Adam (3)

Same as search. :P

SCHACHMANN Maximilian (2)

Not convinced his scoring will be enhanced massively by riding both the Giro and Vuelta. I would have preferred to see him focusing on week long stage races in addition to the obvious one day events. Still with him being nearly unique it might help the chances of some of us getting mentioned in the weekly updates.

PICCOLI James (2)

399 is too much for his first year at WT. We can but hope for a Woods-esque transformation.

CHERKASOV Nicolay (1)

Nobody else took this gamble then. Once the team knew Vlasov was going to be off, Nicolay got a lot more freedom in the second half of the season and it showed in his points haul. I don't see why he can't better Vlasov's 645 from 2019.

GABBURO Davide (1)

This was my pick for the next Savio rider to step up to the mark. Probably closer in profile to Vendrame than Masnada or Cattaneo. Should do okay in the Italian and French calendar.

SCHELLING Patrick (1)

Probably not going to be too exciting a selection. Needs to accumulate points in the smaller races (ie San Juan) when Hermans and Martin aren't around.

TUREK Daniel (1)

Should be fun to follow Dan when he gets his freedom with the devo team in various .2 races.

BASSETT Stephen (1)

Nearly won the US Nats. Punchy and aggressive. I'm hoping he can show something on the European calendar for Rally.

CAÑAVERAL VARGAS Jonathan (1)

Got high hopes here. Already has some experience of riding in Europe which is always good. Signed for Giotti Victoria which should see him ride all three Romanian 2.1 races (a rich source of points), Japan, some of the bigger Italian stage races and maybe even Langkawi?

SLEEN Torjus (1)

Was dragging Foss and Leknessund around last year to lots of wins. Foss has left now though and with Sleen ageing out of the U23 bracket, he might not have the same calendar as Leknessund any more. I hope so anyway as he has some talent in his own right.

ÄRM Rait (1)

Vahtra scored big for Tartu last year when they were just a club. Now that they've moved up to CT they should have a better calendar for the next sprint talent in line.

KOOISTRA Marten (1)

He didn't do enough to earn a pro-contract in his final year at SEG, but going to BEAT is a good move. A Budding/Havik-eque year would be nice.

EINHORN Itmar (1)

I think we could see the first (?) male Israeli UCI win outside Israel this year. If Einhorn (or Niv) drops down the devo team for the right .2 race they have it in them to get that important victory.

HINDSGAUL MADSEN Jacob (1)

Me and Scandis don't usually get along in in CQ, but here's another one. Good climber. I was reading that he beat some record of Gregaard's on a climb (of course I can't find the article now).

MILES Carson (1)

Ex-Floyds. Can TT and climb a bit, but still very young. More for interest in the devo team when Turek is off with the main team.

FANCELLU Alessandro (1)

Oi Flo! I thought you said you were handicapping yourself with all your Kometa boys. All I see are ex-Kometa riders on your team. Never mind, I'll represent the current Kometa in 2020 since your faith is lacking ( :P). In all seriousness though he should be one of their main men (after Dina) and should score okay.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on January 08, 2020, 11:19
some guys I really wanted but couldn't fit in - so you can expect them to have a massive turnaround :P

KÄMNA Lennard (155, 46)
He looked so strong in the Tour, that it's hard to not see him having his breakthrough this year - but how much freedom will he have in a new team with at least Buchmann, Schachmann, Majka, Konrad and Großschartner with GC ambitions?

KANKOVSKY Alois (122, 0)
6 wins early on in 2019 before breaking his leg in June. He could potentially double that and also the Czech Nationals are fairly flat this year, but no idea how he'll recover from that injury at the age of 36, and it's not like he will score 500 points anyway.

KIRSCH Alex (85, 1)
Always fun to follow, and in his 2nd year at Trek (and with Degenkolb and Felline leaving) he should get more opportunities himself now.

FILOSI Iuri (39, 0)
Back in Italy to lead Bardiani after two sh*t years at Delko. He has the talent to equal his 2017 score (271) I guess, but in the end I was too worried about him being in the mix all the time, but not quite quick enough to really score big.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 08, 2020, 15:44
some guys I really wanted but couldn't fit in - so you can expect them to have a massive turnaround :P

KÄMNA Lennard (155, 46)
He looked so strong in the Tour, that it's hard to not see him having his breakthrough this year - but how much freedom will he have in a new team with at least Buchmann, Schachmann, Majka, Konrad and Großschartner with GC ambitions?

KANKOVSKY Alois (122, 0)
6 wins early on in 2019 before breaking his leg in June. He could potentially double that and also the Czech Nationals are fairly flat this year, but no idea how he'll recover from that injury at the age of 36, and it's not like he will score 500 points anyway.

KIRSCH Alex (85, 1)
Always fun to follow, and in his 2nd year at Trek (and with Degenkolb and Felline leaving) he should get more opportunities himself now.

FILOSI Iuri (39, 0)
Back in Italy to lead Bardiani after two sh*t years at Delko. He has the talent to equal his 2017 score (271) I guess, but in the end I was too worried about him being in the mix all the time, but not quite quick enough to really score big.

KÄMNA looked very strong at times last year, so much so that I put him down on my riders to watch list.

And of course Alex would've been the cherry on the cake.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 08, 2020, 16:04
OK, my rationale for the team that has it in the bag.

SAGAN Peter

Surely he will have a better year than last year and can reach at least 2,000 points. Potential for many more especially given he's doing two GTs - that was the decider.

EVENEPOEL Remco

Well, a phenomenon, and one who will get to choose his calendar. Already in for the Olympics.

PINOT Thibaut

Would've been hugely better without injuring himself at the Tour, really impressed me last year, perhaps the altitude training that he didn't believe in before. Plus he's very likeable.

YATES Simon


A huge year in 2018 showed his limits. On his day as good as anyone.

HIRSCHI Marc

IMO a massive talent, expect to see him on more podiums this year.

MOSCON Gianni


Talent to burn, albeit an unpleasant individual. Showed signs last year, but INEOS don't really have anyone else for the classics except Flower.

LATOUR Pierre

Injury permitting.

DUMOULIN Tom

Obvious

ROOSEN Timo

Will do better than last year, although will have to fight with Teunissen, Wout and others for leadership.

OOMEN Sam

Injury permitting.

RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan

Androni, should be leader.

VAKOC Petr

Injury permitting.

FOSS Tobias Svendsen
GROVES Kaden
VAN WILDER Ilan
BAGIOLI Andrea
RIES Michel
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto
OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro
ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo
JERMAN Ziga
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso
COVI Alessandro
ARENSMAN Thymen
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
SIMMONS Quinn


Exciting kids. Always far more interesting to follow a few youngsters as the payback is bigger if they get an unexpected result. Could've put Remco in here too but he's a bit different.


FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben

Should be leader at Euskadi.

FROOME Chris

Who's this bloke?

POWER Robert

Bags of talent, was told when he signed that the first year he'd be a dom, clearly the second year should be different with the lack of other climbers except babies.

KIRYIENKA Vasil

Picked for ITT, olympics

CAVENDISH Mark

Probably a waste of 25 points

KANTER Max

Has plenty of talent, unlucky last year.

DE BIE Sean

No brainer.

I missed Modolo and a couple of others but hey, am I bovvered?  :shh
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 08, 2020, 16:32
Thirteen uniques, but that's not good enough to be bottom of the popularity table again.  :(

To be fair the two teams below do only have 25 riders which kinda helps keeping the score down, and one of them will be over budget when the spelling mistake is spotted.

Ignoring those picked by ten or more teams, here are the rest of the team.

BANASZEK Alan (5)

Same reasons as search. :P

MARTIN Daniel (4)

At one point I only had one I-SUN rider on the team and it was Cousin Dan. I can't see him scoring massively, but maybe he can get all of his cost back with a little bit of profit.

ARANBURU DEBA Alexander (3)

Not so sure about this pick on reflection. Was probably too swayed by his Vuelta stage 2 performance, but we'll see.

MOLENAAR Alex (3)

Winner of the Turul Romaniei! Need I say anymore? Well okay, in a team of such low quality as Burgos he should get free-rein almost immediately to ride for himself.

VERVAEKE Louis (3)

It's unlikely he'll ever get back to the form of his Lotto U23 days, but he's better than the results and scores from his previous years.

BAUGNIES Jérôme (3)

He was almost going to be my Continental Dominator selection, but I decided to keep him for myself. Canyon had a good season last year in Europe and that (+ Baugnies himself) might open the door to a few more race invitations.

TOUPALIK Adam (3)

Same as search. :P

SCHACHMANN Maximilian (2)

Not convinced his scoring will be enhanced massively by riding both the Giro and Vuelta. I would have preferred to see him focusing on week long stage races in addition to the obvious one day events. Still with him being nearly unique it might help the chances of some of us getting mentioned in the weekly updates.

PICCOLI James (2)

399 is too much for his first year at WT. We can but hope for a Woods-esque transformation.

CHERKASOV Nicolay (1)

Nobody else took this gamble then. Once the team knew Vlasov was going to be off, Nicolay got a lot more freedom in the second half of the season and it showed in his points haul. I don't see why he can't better Vlasov's 645 from 2019.

GABBURO Davide (1)

This was my pick for the next Savio rider to step up to the mark. Probably closer in profile to Vendrame than Masnada or Cattaneo. Should do okay in the Italian and French calendar.

SCHELLING Patrick (1)

Probably not going to be too exciting a selection. Needs to accumulate points in the smaller races (ie San Juan) when Hermans and Martin aren't around.

TUREK Daniel (1)

Should be fun to follow Dan when he gets his freedom with the devo team in various .2 races.

BASSETT Stephen (1)

Nearly won the US Nats. Punchy and aggressive. I'm hoping he can show something on the European calendar for Rally.

CAÑAVERAL VARGAS Jonathan (1)

Got high hopes here. Already has some experience of riding in Europe which is always good. Signed for Giotti Victoria which should see him ride all three Romanian 2.1 races (a rich source of points), Japan, some of the bigger Italian stage races and maybe even Langkawi?

SLEEN Torjus (1)

Was dragging Foss and Leknessund around last year to lots of wins. Foss has left now though and with Sleen ageing out of the U23 bracket, he might not have the same calendar as Leknessund any more. I hope so anyway as he has some talent in his own right.

ÄRM Rait (1)

Vahtra scored big for Tartu last year when they were just a club. Now that they've moved up to CT they should have a better calendar for the next sprint talent in line.

KOOISTRA Marten (1)

He didn't do enough to earn a pro-contract in his final year at SEG, but going to BEAT is a good move. A Budding/Havik-eque year would be nice.

EINHORN Itmar (1)

I think we could see the first (?) male Israeli UCI win outside Israel this year. If Einhorn (or Niv) drops down the devo team for the right .2 race they have it in them to get that important victory.

HINDSGAUL MADSEN Jacob (1)

Me and Scandis don't usually get along in in CQ, but here's another one. Good climber. I was reading that he beat some record of Gregaard's on a climb (of course I can't find the article now).

MILES Carson (1)

Ex-Floyds. Can TT and climb a bit, but still very young. More for interest in the devo team when Turek is off with the main team.

FANCELLU Alessandro (1)

Oi Flo! I thought you said you were handicapping yourself with all your Kometa boys. All I see are ex-Kometa riders on your team. Never mind, I'll represent the current Kometa in 2020 since your faith is lacking ( :P). In all seriousness though he should be one of their main men (after Dina) and should score okay.


There's some proper sh*te (unknowns) or is it unknowns (sh*te) in there LB. Cherkasov and Molenaar look like good picks though.   :lol
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 08, 2020, 16:53
Time will tell if they're gold or iron pyrite, but it should be fun following them, which is the main thing.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Joelsim on January 08, 2020, 16:57
Time will tell if they're gold or iron pyrite, but it should be fun following them, which is the main thing.

I'm curious about Molenaar as he referred to himself as the new Sagan in an interview. May have been tongue-in-cheek, but he doesn't appear to lack confidence.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on January 08, 2020, 17:09


FANCELLU Alessandro (1)

Oi Flo! I thought you said you were handicapping yourself with all your Kometa boys. All I see are ex-Kometa riders on your team. Never mind, I'll represent the current Kometa in 2020 since your faith is lacking ( :P). In all seriousness though he should be one of their main men (after Dina) and should score okay.

Haha, yeah I meant former Kometa boys :P Those 5 boys (Moschetti, Oldani, Lopez, Ries and Inkelaar) are all good friends still. Let's call them the 5 musketeers :P

Fancellu is an interesting pick, Kometa's 2020 roster doesn't look as stacked so he should have a lot of freedom. Dina is of course the main man, but who knows, he might be on Androni for the Giro if the rumors are to be believed. Watch out for Garcia though, he is really punchy, but suffered with illness last year. Ropero is also pretty allround, although not as good a climber as Oldani was.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 08, 2020, 17:35
Thirteen uniques, but that's not good enough to be bottom of the popularity table again.  :(

To be fair the two teams below do only have 25 riders which kinda helps keeping the score down, and one of them will be over budget when the spelling mistake is spotted.
MUNOZ for MUÑOZ?  Spotted and reported (with 4 other typos) to Skidmark last night.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on January 08, 2020, 18:00
Here is my team:

PINOT Thibaut   861
BARDET Romain   734
KWIATKOWSKI Michal   645
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   453
LATOUR Pierre   352
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   350
DUMOULIN Tom   341
VAN POPPEL Danny   334
BOUHANNI Nacer   276
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   268
BALLERINI Davide   252
CORT NIELSEN Magnus   227
BARBIER Pierre   213
CANOLA Marco   205
DAINESE Alberto   201
FELLINE Fabio   199
ARU Fabio   194
OOMEN Sam   179
MOSCHETTI Matteo   160
KÄMNA Lennard   155
LONARDI Giovanni   138
LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   125
HAAS Nathan   118
DILLIER Silvan   101
OLDANI Stefano   90
BAGIOLI Andrea   83
RIES Michel   58
POWER Robert   56
MÄDER Gino   50
INKELAAR Kevin   36
VICHOT Arthur   28
KANTER Max   8
DE BIE Sean   5


I really wanted Mohoric on my team, and he was on it for a long time. Unfortunately in the end I had to sacrifice him to fit in Bardet. I don't really rate Bardet that highly but I can't deny his skill as a bike rider, and after I learned of his schedule I had to get him on my team. To make room for him I also had to get rid of De la Cruz, but that gave me space for Inkelaar.
No unique picks, but I'll elaborate on the rarer picks

GARCIA CORTINA Ivan - 453 points - 10 picks
I had him last year, so I followed his performance in the classics very closely. I think with a bit more experience he can be excellent in those races and he has the speed to get top results. I think this could be his breakout year so I am happy to see he isn't that popular.

VAN POPPEL Danny - 334 points - 22 picks
I would have expected him on more teams - yes, he is a bit expensive but he has shown he can at least double his 2019 score previously, and on Wanty he should be the top sprinter and have a lot of opportunities and an excellent race programme.

BALLERINI Davide - 252 points - 22 picks
I actually wanted him on my team last year, but then he got brutally expensive in the last few weeks of his season. While he won't race much of the Italian one day race calendar, he is on the best possible team to excel in the spring classics. He already showed some promise in 2019, and I only expect him to get better. He's also very fast which is always an advantage and will boost his score in one day races.

BARBIER Pierre - 213 points - 2 picks
Almost unique - I didn't expect him to be so rare. I needed a sprinter for the French calendar and as he's really young and already super fast, I see a lot of potential. Hopefully he will get opportunities and won't be wasted as a leadout for Grosu or Jules.

CANOLA Marco - 205 points - 7 picks
One of my toughest picks. I don't know why he scored so poorly which made me hesitate to pick him. However just looking at his potential, based on 2017/2018, he should be able to at least double his score.

FELLINE Fabio - 199 points - 17 picks
Basically one of the most allround riders in the peloton, if he's feeling good he can deliver everywhere except maybe the highest mountains. This is the third year in a row he's on my team (yes, I also picked him when he was 700 points), I am not sure he can get back to his best level. The viral infection seems to have hit him hard. However, if he can shine on any team it should be Astana.

MOSCHETTI Matteo - 160 points - 24 picks
I picked him last year for pretty much the same price, and with a year of experience on WT level I see no reason to have less faith in him. He actually delivered some great results, but was also unlucky with some crashes and injuries. Hopefully he has better luck this season.

LONARDI Giovanni - 138 points - 2 picks
As always I wanted a sprinter for the Italian and Asian scene, and Lonardi fits in perfectly. He's young, fast, and bound to ride quite a few races in Asia. He should get plenty of opportunities to score.

LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro - 125 points - 5 picks
OLDANI Stefano   - 90 points - 2 picks
RIES Michel - 58 points - 5 picks
INKELAAR Kevin   - 36 points - 9 picks
All these are on my team for the same reason: they are all former Kometa riders (of course Moschetti is one too), which makes it interesting for me to follow and cheer for them. Lopez and Oldani I would normally consider a bit too expensive for neo pro climbers, but we will see what they can deliver.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: rote_laterne on January 09, 2020, 21:46
Rare pick Durbridge started the season like last year.  :party Hope the game ends better for me.  :party :party :party
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 14, 2020, 15:37
Update #1: the asian gets top points from Australia



Well, the teams are in, the Aussie nats are done, and the first week's results are in for some CQ catnip for 113 players who entered the week tied for first. The future is bright for everyone's team right now, but a few teams get the edge in our first tangible results of 2020.



Top 10 on the Week and Overall




Rank   Team   Points
1   the asian   137
2   will10   112
3   dimasotf   107
4   Mayomaniac   90
4   rote_laterne   90
6   Falze   82
7   greenedge   65
7   Marek   65
9   Eric10   60


There are 20 teams tied for 10th at 59 points.



Since no one in the game had the finally-national-champ Cam Meyer and his 100 points, scores were kept relatively low in this initial week. The 3 teams that picked Luke Durbridge got his 90 points, but only one of them added points from another rider (the teams tied for 4th are the other two). the asian had Durbo's 90 point springboard to combine with 47 points from the considerably more popular Nathan Haas (40 teams) to get to the winning total of 137. will10 gets 30 points from Rohan Dennis (3 teams) and 35 from Jay McCarthy (8 teams) to combine with Haas to nab 2nd at 112 points, while dimasotf has 60 from Lucas Hamilton (2 teams) to combine with Haas and gets 107 points.



Obviously no high movers this week as everyone started tied for first; I'll be counting green jersey points this week but the update/weekly/green jersey tabs are still a construction site (I need to update with this year's teams but haven't had time yet, basically). Those will be online for next week; in the meantime, the individual team tabs have been trimmed down to those participating this year, thanks to those who've pointed out spelling errors etc so far, keep them coming if you notice them!



spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ize9af5sds1yegi/CQ%202020%20Update%201.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 21, 2020, 16:14
Update #2: It's a 2.2 Kinda Week



Quite often the week after the CQ game opens, there's a bit of a lull before the TDU sees the World Tour level teams hit the pavement, and the game has a bit of a quiet week. No exception this time, with a few picks riding the 2.2 Vuelta al Tachira or New Zealand Cycling Classic. CQ included the points from the first stage of Tropicale Amissa Bongo (which is strange since the update is dated January 19th but the stage was on the 20th), and that ended up determining the winner of the week. Well, CQ defines our weeks around these parts, so that's how it goes.



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Fivezzz   37
2   adamski101   32
3   Blues in the bottle   27
3   Jakob747   27
3   triley36   27


Elia's little brother was picked by 8 teams, and winning the opening stage in Gabon got Attilio Viviani 20 points for the win and 6 for the leader's jersey. Newcomer Fivezzz supplements that with 10 points from Luca Pacioni (4 teams) in Tachira and a single point from Jefferson Cepeda in the same race. That's enough for the weekly win! adamski101 nabs second with a similar combo, swapping out Pacioni for young Eritrean Biniam Girmay Hailu (5 points, 7 teams). A trio of teams tie for third with 27 points; two of them with Viviani/Cepeda, and triley36 with 24 points from Kevin Rivera (4 teams) and 3 for Daniel Munoz (2 teams)... which means that without Gabon's results, triley36 would have led the week.



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Muddy_Waters   (+35)
2   Fivezzz   (+14)
3   adamski101   (+13)
4   Blues in the bottle   (+11)
4   Jakob747   (+11)
4   triley36   (+11)


It can only really happen in the second week of the season, but the leader in this category almost moved as many spots as the leader of the prior category got points! Muddy Waters managed to get in a place mid-table last week on McCarthy's 35 points, to where Viviani's 26 points leveraged their team quite a large leap in the standings! A fortuitous confluence of events. Fivezzz and adamski101 repeat their podium standing from the other ranking here with double-digit moves.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   will10   47
2   Fivezzz   45
2   the asian   45
4   adamski101   35
5   greenedge   34


will10 manages to quickly move beyond the maximum weekly points total (refresher - the points here are awarded to the top 15 places weekly on a scale based off the TdF flat stage finish points from a few years back before they made it more top-heavy), leveraging 35 points for second place last week and 12 points for a 10th place finish this week to move clear of the field. The two weekly winners so far are tied for second. greenedge somehow managed to get 17 points both weeks, even though that's not an actual score for a placing (tied teams are given the average of the tied spots, ie if teams would have gotten 18 and 16 points for the two spots that are tied, I give them each 17). Anyway, the competition is underway!



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
the asian
147
2   (-)   will10   137
3   (-)   dimasotf   107
4   (-)   Mayomaniac   100
5   (+2)   greenedge   91
6   (-2)   rote_laterne   90
7   (-1)   Falze   82
8   (+2)   Tsyka   74
9   (+1)   Squire   70
10   (-)   ThePirate81   69


Not a lot of movement but 7 of the teams in the top 10 scored some points this week (and 50 teams overall did). the asian holds onto the lead and the podium is identical to last week.



This week with the TDU offering lots of points should see a shakeup, as well as some riders in Gabon that will continue to score for some teams.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on January 28, 2020, 01:01
Update #3: Object Lesson on How to Win a CQ Week



The CQ manager game kicked into high gear this week, with results from Gabon but most importantly the first World Tour points of the year in the TdU. The winners of both of these races were only chosen by two teams, so there is some stratification at the top, and of course with so many points on offer, the table is in upheaval.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Object   564
2   Nicosix   485
3   ChrisDK   430
4   zaka_fan   390
5   will10   338


Porte with his 386 points - already at 59% of his 2019 score - would be good enough for 5th place on this table on their own, so it was always likely that the winning team would be one of the two that chose Porte. And indeed, Object runs away with the week combining Porte points with 121 points from Simon Yates (a bit more popular, on 84 teams) and a decent 37 from Rob Power and finishing points from a few others. Nicosix nabs a very good second place without Porte, but a well-rounded team effort thanks mainly to Yates, Sam Bennett (117 points, 5 teams), surprise Gabon winner Jordan Levasseur (120 points at a cost of 4!, 2 teams), and rare picks Biniam Hailu and Jeremy Cabot pick some up as well. ChrisDK nabs a podium spot as the other Porte-haver.



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   ChrisDK   (+84)
2   Riverside   (+64)
3   hfgon1   (+63)
4   CQPlayer7373   (+58)
5   Yellow Knight   (+52)


Well. You know there's going to be some serious movement in the first real points week of the season, and there certainly was.  ChrisDK went from zero points on the season to getting 430 this week, so an 84 spot jump in a competition with 113 teams is about as big as it gets (88 teams had scored a point before this week). Riverside rode Yates, Philipsen (111, 2 teams) and unique pick Emmanuel Morin (82 points) to a 64 spot jump, and hfgon1 celebrates a 63 spot jump as one of the 2 teams to pick Matthew Holmes (60 points), as well as George Bennett (90) and Yates.



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   will10   69
2   Object   45
2   the asian   45
2   Fivezzz   45
5   greenedge   42


Object takes 45 points to tie the other two weekly winners on the table, while will10 extends their lead by scoring the third week in a row (22 points this time). greenedge also scores for the third week in a row, netting 8 more points to land in the top 5 here.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (+35)   
Object
611
2   (+50)   Nicosix   515
3   (-1)   will10   475
4   (+10)   zaka_fan   450
5   (+84)   ChrisDK   430
6   (-3)   dimasotf   393
7   (+7)   18-Valve. (pithy)   391
8   (-3)   greenedge   382
9   (+9)   del1962   380
10   (+1)   Marek   374


Three teams from last week's top 10 remain this week - the aforementioned consistent will10 and greenedge, as well as dimasotf.  But last week's leader the asian falls to 12th, and this week's top 2 on the week leap 35 and 50 spots to become the top 2 overall. This week, the points keep coming from a variety of places: currently in San Juan, the new 1.1 Race Torquay and then the Cadel race in Australia, and of course, the start of racing in Europe with the Mallorca Challenge and finally the continental opener in Marseille on Sunday.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on January 28, 2020, 07:25
Everybody's off the mark! :cool
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on February 05, 2020, 03:01
Update #4: Hakkie 2 Good for the Competition



With San Juan and Mallorca, as well as a couple of races in Australia and the Colombian nats, there were a wealth of races without giant points in any given one, but some of the weekly scores approached the big weeks to follow later in the year with multiple WT races! It was a very good week for some teams indeed.



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Hakkie2   817
2   Jakob747   722
3   western_grebe   649
4   EvansIsTheBest   646
5   christopherrowe   626


Last year's podium finisher Hakkie2 wins the week with an incredible 817 points, beating every team but Jakob747 by over 100. Of course, if you're paying attention you'd have guessed that the winning team this week had to have Remco Evenepoel, who picked up a solid 210 points for the 26 teams who thought he'd still be a good pickup after his remarkable rookie year. As well, the 24 teams who picked the somewhat cheaper and somewhat older sophomore Matteo Moschetti had to be thrilled with his two wins in Mallorca, breaking even with 2019 after two days. Hakkie had them both. Aside from next highest scorer Marc Soler (88 points, 74 teams), most of the rest of the good points on Hakkie's team (83 from Gaviria, 62 McCarthy, 44 Fernandez, 40 Dainese) came from riders picked by 30 teams or fewer. A great start to the season. Jakob747, as mentioned, landed in second thanks to Evenepoel and Moschetti, and to rare picks Higuita (100 points, 4 teams) and Muhlberger (88 points, 2 teams). Game newcomer western grebe nabs third, edging out game veteran EvansIsTheBest by 3 points.



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   christopherrowe   (+75)
2   Bicycle_Boy   (+74)
3   Jakob747   (+65)
4   Kazistuta   (+60)
5   Otoxiep87   (+58)
5   triley36   (+58)


Wow, some real jumps this week, and such a close race at the top of this classification. christopherrowe leaps an astounding 75 spots with a 'go big or go home' lineup of rare riders: unique pick Dries Devenyns really pays off with 180 points for winning in Australia (and is at 234 at a cost of 173 already), and the aforementioned Moschetti and Higuita. Bicycle Boy comes oh so close, but will have to be consoled with a 74 spot leap in the standings thanks to Remco, Moschetti, McNulty and Gaviria, while Jakob747 doubles up on the podiums this week.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   will10   69
2   Jakob747   61
3   Fivezzz   55
4   Hakkie2   45
4   the asian   45
4   Object   45


This week is the first this year where will10 isn't in the top 15 of the week. That allows teams like Jakob747 (26 Green Jersey points on the week) and Fivezzz (10 on the week) to gain a bit, while Hakkie2 joins the ranks of weekly winners in the logjam at 4th place.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (+55)   
Hakkie2
1010
2   (+22)   western_grebe   948
3   (+1)   zaka_fan   931
4   (+28)   EvansIsTheBest   926
5   (+5)   Marek   896
6   (+65)   Jakob747   888
7   (-)   18-Valve. (pithy)   869
8   (-3)   ChrisDK   852
9   (+24)   sodak_za   849
10   (-9)   Object   842


Well given that Hakkie2 scored 817 on the week and and 842 total will get you in the top 10, it's no wonder that their team scores a 55 spot leap into the top overall position. Now that we've seen some points get the season underway, there shouldn't be quite as dramatic leaps in the future, but we still do have a brand new top 3 and mostly new top 10, with last week's leader Object the only team that was on the podium last week still in the top 10. western grebe and zaka fan round out the podium.



I should mention that the Collective Wisdom team, composed of the most popular riders in the game, would be in 35th place at 645 points.



This week only sees the action pack up with stage races in multiple countries, including Spain, France, Malaysia, Australia and Saudi Arabia.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on February 11, 2020, 18:09
Update #5: Amis Velo tops a busy week



There were stage races this week in the Middle East, Australia, two in continental Europe, and one ongoing in Southeast Asia. Although it's likely that more teams had a wider variety of riders scoring than last week, the weekly top scorers weren't anywhere near last week's 800+ highs. A lot of decent performances from less popular riders and big points from very rare riders this week, but a very exciting week with alot going on.



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Amis_Velo   444
2   Londonpat   438
3   EvansIsTheBest   391
4   Jakob747   384
5   skidmark   358


Amis Velo tops the week with two riders scoring more than 100 points - Nacer Bouhanni nabbed 126 from Saudi Arabia (and is on 52 teams), while unique pick Tao Geoghegan Hart picked up 102 in Europe, which must be an encouraging start for someone having him as a unique pick.  Beyond that, the team had a slew of riders such as Chernetski, Daniese, Cort etc scoring between 30-40, coming together for a solid week. Londonpat finishes only 6 points behind, having the top two in the Saudi Tour (Phil Bauhaus is only on 4 teams and scored 166 on the week, and is now only 30 points behind last year's score). EvansIsTheBest nabs a mention in third as one of the only two teams to pick Alexys Brunel, as well as the Bouhanni points.



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Jon_Ezeitza   (+34)
2   Londonpat   (+32)
2   Eric10   (+32)
4   Amis_Velo   (+26)
4   postmanhat   (+26)


Things have settled a bit in week 5 after some huge jumps in the early going, but Jon Ezeitza still manages to top the week by moving up almost a third of the table, 34 spots.  Their team has only 4 scoring riders this week, and the vast majority come from Tadej Pogacar (216 points, 3 teams) and the aforementioned Brunel. Londonpat is a bridesmaid again, sharing second place with Eric10.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   87
2   will10   69
3   EvansIsTheBest   56
4   Fivezzz   55
5   Hakkie2   51


Jakob747 moves into the lead of this competition after their team's third week in the top 4 out of the 5 weeks this game has been going on. will10 and Fivezzz stand pat while EITB has a second good week in a row, and Hakkie2 scores 6 points to separate them from the pack of weekly winners at 45 points, now out of the top 5.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
Hakkie2
1338
2   (+2)   EvansIsTheBest   1317
3   (+3)   Jakob747   1272
4   (-1)   zaka_fan   1237
5   (-3)   western_grebe   1205
6   (+1)   18-Valve. (pithy)   1160
7   (-2)   Marek   1135
8   (+2)   Object   1121
9   (-)   sodak_za   1110
10   (+6)   Squire   1091


Hakkie2 stays on top, while EITB and Jakob storm the podium. The top 10 overall has settled down a bit as well after a volatile first few weeks, with the only new entry being Squire, coming at the expense of ChrisDK, who tumbles out of the top 10.



The early season hits keep coming this week, with Langkawi continuing, Colombia and Provence hosting their stage races, Murcia later in the week, and then Laigueglia kicking off the Italian calendar and Almeria too.





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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on February 14, 2020, 08:02
Banaszek into profit after one day's racing. :lol

He'll be up against some bigger names at Antalya, so that will give a better indication of his level these days.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on February 17, 2020, 19:58
Update #6: HelgeBlendet Puts it all Together



February continues apace with the appetizer races leading up to Opening Weekend, Paris-Nice and everything after, and we are starting to see some riders really come into their own, taking a good chunk out of or even surpassing totals from last year. One team this week stood above the rest, however.



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   HelgeBlendet   600
2   Hakkie2   464
3   Mayomaniac   457
4   Northerner   447
5   DJ Sprtsch   432


HelgeBlendet scores an even 600 points in a week where no one else even topped 500, the effects of which (spoiler alert) you will see further down the table. This wasn't due to a solitary pick hitting it big, either - this was accomplished by committee, with 9 riders scoring between 40 and 89 points for their team. These are (deep breath): Jonathan Caciedo (89 points, 3 teams), Hugh Carthy (88, 5), Wilco Kelderman (85, 26), Diego Rosa (66, 5), Lennard Kamna (66, 46), George Bennett (54, 9), Esteban Chaves (40, 14) and Louis Meintjes (40, 21). Very impressive! Meanwhile, Hakkie2 wasn't content with the overall lead and wanted another notch in the belt, so their team gets second with 464 points. Danilo Celano (197 points, 3 teams) leads the way there, with unique pick Pierpaolo Ficara (83 points) also contributing a significant amount.  Mayomaniac nabs the final podium spot thanks as well to Celano and a fantastic showing from young Biniam Hailu (78 points, 7 teams).



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   DJ Sprtsch   (+30)
2   Sneekes   (+28)
3   bminchow   (+27)
4   BlueRoads   (+25)
5   CQPlayer7373   (+24)


Quite a different top 5 here, as lots of the top scorers were already quite high on the standings. DJ Sprtsch takes the honors here, moving up thirty places thanks to Dani Martinez's 108 points leading the way. Sneekes is close behind (shoutout to the 139 points provided by an opportunistic Xandro Meurisse), while bminchow lands in third (as mentioned in the CN thread, unique pick Ciccone got 130 for winning Laigueglia).



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   87
2   Hakkie2   86
3   will10   69
4   EvansIsTheBest   56
5   Fivezzz   55


Hakkie2 isn't crushing absolutely everything in the early season, but is coming close, scoring 35 points in this competition to lesson Jakob747's lead to 1 point. No one else in the top 5 overall scores this week; 69 teams have scored at least a point in this competition so far.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
Hakkie2
1802
2   (+17)   HelgeBlendet   1594
3   (-)   Jakob747   1550
4   (-2)   EvansIsTheBest   1521
5   (+5)   Squire   1502
6   (+2)   Object   1493
7   (+2)   sodak_za   1476
8   (-4)   zaka_fan   1441
9   (+6)   skidmark   1424
10   (-4)   18-Valve. (pithy)   1401


No surprise here, as Hakkie2's lead gets extended to over 200 points overall. HelgeBlendet rockets up the standings after a dominant week, but was starting about 350 points behind, and so must settle for a still quite impressive second. HelgeBlendet and good ol' team skidmark slip into the top 10, while western grebe and Marek tumble out.



The traditional European early season is in full swing this week, with Algarve, Andalucia and Haut Var punctuating a stage-race heavy week, with the newly 2.1 Tour of Antalya offering some good CQ points as well. No Oman, but it's still a pretty big week.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on February 20, 2020, 17:48
That's more like it. A 1-2-3 at Algarve today. :cool
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on February 25, 2020, 01:35
Update #7: EvansIsTheBest IsTheBest



February is rolling along and this week was another great one for the 26 teams who figured Remco Evenepoel would be worth the price tag (should we call that group of teams the "Remcoalition"?) But with Haut Var, as well as Algarve and Andalucia, it took more than one rider to win the week. I mean, he certainly helped, though.



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   EvansIsTheBest   627
2   Leadbelly   625
3   Hakkie2   492
4   karaev   482
5   Otoxiep87   463


As mentioned in the headline, game veteran (the handle might indicate some senority on the forum) EvansIsTheBest kills it this week, ekeing out a victory by two points but scoring a pretty darn good 627 points.  234 of those came from Evenepoel, yes, but EITB managed to fit some more popular expensive riders in Pinot (51 this week) and Bardet (80 this week). So that was a good start, and less popular youngsters like McNulty (74 pts), Kamna (56 more to go into profit already) and Almeida (44) seal the deal. Leadbelly comes oh so close but has to settle for second, going their standard route of rare riders - of course Evenepoel led the charge, but most of the other gains were from 134 from Schachmann (2 teams), 54 from Dan Martin (4 teams) and a very fine 69 points from unique zero-pointer Alessandro Fancellu (or, as I call him as of this moment when I've heard of him for the first time ever, Alessandro Fancell-who?) And in third place is... goddamn it, it's Hakkie2 again! What a run for that team!



This Week's High Movers



1   Leadbelly   (+53)
2   SafeBet   (+29)
2   Bicycle_Boy   (+29)
4   Tsyka   (+27)
5   trackstand   (+26)


Well, I suppose the 50+ spot jumps aren't quite over yet. Leadbelly's rare rider strategy tends to be boom or bust, and this is a pretty huge boom this week, moving up 53 spots (Alessandro Fancel-woo-hoo!) SafeBet and Bicycle_Boy tie for second, moving up 29 spots as members of the Remcoalition. Hakkie2 can't top this list, because you can't move up from the top spot.



(note: sorry if there are too many bad puns this week, I'm just in a mood)



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Hakkie2   116
2   EvansIsTheBest   101
3   Jakob747   87
4   Fivezzz   71
5   will10   69


A fair bit of movement at the top here this week, as two teams are looking really good (more on this later). Hakkie2 gets 30 points and EITB gets 45 to solidly slot into the top 2 spots, sending Jakob747 down to third. Fivezzz scores 16 points this week to move up to 4th overall.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
Hakkie2
2294
2   (+2)   EvansIsTheBest   2148
3   (+7)   18-Valve. (pithy)   1857
4   (-1)   Jakob747   1851
5   (+9)   Otoxiep87   1797
6   (-1)   Squire   1794
7   (-1)   Object   1765
8   (-1)   sodak_za   1750
9   (+2)   western_grebe   1745
10   (-8)   HelgeBlendet   1742


Well, yes, Hakkie2 continues to kill it by getting 3rd on the week, but EvansIsTheBest was also 4th going into the week, and a dominant win (135 points more than Hakkie2) means that Hakkie2's lead to second actually went down from over 200 points last week to less than 150 this week. Of course, the rising tide floats both of their boats, as the top 2 are pulling away from the rest of the field. 18-Valve's 7th on the week gets their team an impressive leap onto the podium as well. Otoxiep87 and western_grebe jump into the top 10, while zaka_fan and yours truly slide on out.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on February 25, 2020, 08:21
So close......but I can't complain too much. :D
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on March 03, 2020, 01:49
Update #8: 747 Flying High



Opening Weekend, although bigger in the hearts of racing fans than in pure CQ points, still threw out a good bunch of points to shake up the standings, and while the UAE Tour cancelled its last two stages and therefore the chance to get WT stage points, it still offered a good haul overall, and the promotion of former 1.1 French races made it a decent week.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Jakob747   440
2   Sestriere   427
3   Falze   362
4   ThePirate81   355
5   adamski101   321


Jakob747 has already had several good weeks this year, but it finally comes together in a winning week here.  Jakob has long made an impression on these forums as a passionate cycling fan with a keen eye for developing talent in both traditional and non-traditional cycling countries, and this has translated in this game in a mix of big swings that often turn into savvy picks. So it's no surprise to see points coming to their team from Tadej Pogacar (205 points, 3 teams), who (like fellow Jakob teammates Evenepoel and Higuita) are coming off a spectacular year but starting what may be an even more spectacular one. And supporting points from Simone Ravanelli (53 points, 2 teams) and Dries Van Gestel (33 points, unique pick) are very on brand, supplemented by somewhat more popular picks like Soren Kragh Andersen (92 points, 43 teams). (sidenote: comparing Jakob's team to a high popularity team like, I dunno, team skidmark, Andersen is Jakob's 9th most picked rider whereas he's my 18th).  Sestriere finishes 13 points behind in second, nabbing 135 points from Remi Cavagna's imperious ride on Saturday (3 teams), as well as SK Andersen points and 75 from Nibali (3 teams as well). Falze finishes a bit farther back in third with a bit more of a committee approach, with Andersen the highest scorer and riders like Kelderman (80 points, 26 teams), Roelandts (42, 5) and Drucker (37, 13).



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Sestriere   (+35)
2   Falze   (+29)
3   ThePirate81   (+25)
4   Lortnoc   (+20)
5   Jon_Ezeitza   (+17)
5   adamski101   (+17)
5   Eric10   (+17)


Very similar top 5 here sans Jakob, who was already quite high in the standings and thus not far to move. Sestriere and Falze go one better than the other ranking, moving an impressive 35 and 29 spots respectively, while ThePirate81 slots into the final podium spot largely thanks to being one of the ten teams who took Jhonathan Restrepo (120 points).



This Month's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points This Month
1   EvansIsTheBest   1510
2   Jakob747   1403
3   Hakkie2   1359
4   Squire   1313
5   Mayomaniac   1195


It's the end of the month as well! As you might expect given that January is but an appetizer, the top 5 for February bears a strong resemblance to the top 5 overall. The 3 top teams have one prominent rider in common - 234 points from Remco Evenepoel. Although he's the highest scorer for 2 of those 3 teams, he's blown away by Jakob's highest scorer Pogacar, who got a fabulous 421 points in February (Remco's first stage race win came in January).  EITB also saw 100+ points from Pinot, Bouhanni, Restrepo, Kamna, and Alexys Brunel this month.



This Month's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Rakim   (+49)
2   Leadbelly   (+39)
2   trackstand   (+39)
4   Jon_Ezeitza   (+36)
5   Sestriere   (+34)


And a different top 3 here! Rakim takes the biggest cumulative leap, rising almost 50 points over the month after a slower January, getting between 96-165 points from riders such as Bardet, Pinot, Kamna, Jakobsen, Bouhanni and Kelderman. Leadbelly has a top-heavy lineup (top 4 scorers are 4 most expensive - Schachmann, Evenepoel, Pinot, Dan Martin) to tie with trackstand (helped by unique pick MA Lopez and rare pick Biniyam Hailu) for second.



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   132
2   Hakkie2   116
3   EvansIsTheBest   112
4   Fivezzz   71
5   will10   69


Jakob747 was third in this competition coming into this week, and 45 points for first on the week does the trick in getting the jump into first overall here by 16 points. EITB gets 11 points this week to draw closer to Hakkie2 but dropping a spot. No other points in the top 5.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (+1)   
EvansIsTheBest
2436
2   (-1)   Hakkie2   2369
3   (+1)   Jakob747   2291
4   (+2)   Squire   2072
5   (+4)   western_grebe   2031
6   (+4)   HelgeBlendet   1944
7   (-)   Object   1923
8   (-5)   18-Valve. (pithy)   1902
9   (-1)   sodak_za   1883
10   (+1)   Mayomaniac   1869


We have quite the battle at the top! Hakkie2 had a huge lead two weeks ago, but two fantastic weeks by EITB compared with 2 merely very good weeks from Hakkie close and reverse the gap. Jakob747's great week was enough to jump into third, but the other two were quite far ahead to begin with. Still, with a deadly top 3 rotation of Pogacar, Evenepoel and Higuita, it's easy to imagine many good weeks for Jakob as long as one of those 3 are racing.  Squire, western_grebe and Helgeblendet also have had a great run of results that would merit more mention if not for the white hot month for the top 3. Mayomaniac slides into the top 10 while Otoxiep87 falls out.



spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ukb5dij3ljgjzr/CQ%202020%20Update%208.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on March 10, 2020, 13:50
Update #9: Subdued Week Sees Geraint Too Fast Break into top 10



Even before the fears swirling around coronavirus saw races start to be cancelled, this week was always going to be a transitionary one in the CQ game, after Opening Weekend but before Paris-Nice. Still, with the cancellation of Strade Bianche and GP Industria last weekend, the points this week were from 1.1 Le Samyn, 1.1 GP Monsere, 2.1 Tour of Taiwan, the first stage of Paris-Nice, and a few 1.2 and 2.2 races.  As a result, only one team broke triple digit points on the week, but a win's a win!



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Geraint Too Fast   165
2   ChrisDK   99
3   Eric10   86
4   Rakim   80
4   Luthor   80
4   Muddy_Waters   80
4   GP Blanco   80
4   Blues in the bottle   80


Geraint Too Fast has a good week from unique picks in Taiwan - 145 points from winner Nicholas White, and 18 from Robbie Hucker (the other 2 points came from Alan Banaszek getting second on a stage in Greece). ChrisDK almost breaks  100, also with unique picks in Florian Senechal (56 points) and Clement Venturini (36). Eric10 manages to rise above the fray of 5 other teams that got 80 points from Jakobsen by also getting 6 from Davide Ballerini.



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Eric10   (+12)
2   GP Blanco   (+11)
2   ChrisDK   (+11)
4   Geraint Too Fast   (+10)
4   Blues in the bottle   (+10)


A slightly different table here, with Eric10 moving the most. ChrisDK gets another podium, tying with GP Blanco with an 11 point leap.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   140
2   Hakkie2   116
3   EvansIsTheBest   112
4   ChrisDK   79
5   Eric10   76


Jakob747 gets 8 more points in this competition to extend the gap to second place. ChrisDK and Eric10 use good finishes this week (35 and 30 points respectively) to break the top 5.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
EvansIsTheBest
2436
2   (-)   Hakkie2   2369
3   (-)   Jakob747   2344
4   (-)   Squire   2072
5   (-)   western_grebe   2031
6   (-)   HelgeBlendet   1944
7   (-)   Object   1923
8   (-)   18-Valve. (pithy)   1910
9   (-)   sodak_za   1883
10   (-)   Mayomaniac   1875
10   (+10)   Geraint Too Fast   1875


Well, not much movement. And, in fact, not many points - Jakob747 had 53 points, 18-Valve had 8, and Mayomaniac had 6, while the rest of the top 10 were held scoreless. Save, of course, from GTF, whose win on the week brings their team into a tie for 10th overall.



This week - well, Paris-Nice is going to finish either on the weekend or before, and.... is Drenthe going ahead? Are any races? We shall see.



spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/p6kwelklfxpy6oa/CQ%202020%20Update%209.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on March 18, 2020, 05:49
Update #10: The End of Act I



As Paris-Nice improbably lurched towards it's truncated end, the outlook for cycling fans was as bleak as the early-week weather on the race. Tirenno-Adriatico had already been turfed, as well as Strade Bianche and Milan-San Remo, and in between the first and final stage of Paris-Nice, pretty much everything else for the forseeable future was up in the air as a global pandemic spread with unprecedented speed. The impact on the CQ game, although certainly low on the priority list for all of us right now, was a bit skewed with no other races, and with 7 WT teams pulling out before the start and 2 more before the end. It was hard to try to savor it and appreciate the racing, but some teams in this game still appreciated the points they got this week. So, here we go, the last update until there is some racing again...



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   christopherrowe   610
2   Leadbelly   515
3   search   509
4   tobydawq   472
5   ThePirate81   421


A clear victory this week for christopherrowe, as their team is the only one in the game who has a very impressive looking Tiesj Benoot. Benoot's 341 points this week will leave questions of what could have been this classics season, but what's on the ledger already is pretty darn good. Throw in 213 points for Sergio Higuita (4 teams) and that's already enough for the weekly win, with handsful (handfuls?) of points from Asgreen, Paret-Paintre, and Arndt to round it out. Leadbelly cracks 500 points for second place entirely on the points of two riders - 375 from winner Max Schachmann (2 teams) and 140 from Thibaut Pinot (60 teams). search rounds out the podium with 509 as the other Schachmann owner, but swaps out Pinot for Soren Kragh (119 points, 43 teams).



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   christopherrowe   (+48)
2   Leadbelly   (+39)
3   search   (+35)
4   tobydawq   (+32)
5   Sestriere   (+26)
5   ThePirate81   (+26)


Exactly the same table and order here, save for Sestriere, who is tied with ThePirate81 for 5th (their team is 6 points behind in 6th in the other rankings).



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   154
2   Hakkie2   116
3   EvansIsTheBest   113
4   Leadbelly   80
5   ChrisDK   79


Jakob747's team extends their lead in this competition this week, scoring 14 points in the rankings to nab points in the Green Jersey competition (reminder - points go to the top 15 weekly scorers) for an impressive 6th out of 10 weeks so far. 2nd and 3rd stand pat (EvansIsTheBest gets 1 point for a multiple-way tie for 14th on the week), but Leadbelly's second on the week nabs 35 points to leap to 4th.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
EvansIsTheBest
2733
2   (+1)   Jakob747   2686
3   (-1)   Hakkie2   2407
4   (-)   Squire   2250
5   (+2)   Object   2218
6   (-1)   western_grebe   2186
7   (+7)   skidmark   2094
8   (+14)   LaFlorecita   2073
9   (-1)   18-Valve. (pithy)   2065
10   (-1)   sodak_za   2061


Both leader EvansIsTheBest and 2nd place Jakob747 were in the top 15 this week, and so they consolidate their lead over the rest of the field. Hakkie2 had a healthy buffer a few weeks ago and so a bad week (99th on the week) only slides to third, while there's a good cluster of teams a few hundred points behind. Teams skidmark and LaFlorecita leap into the top 10 overall, while GeraintTooFast and Mayomaniac slide out.



This leaderboard may be preserved in amber for some time! I will certainly be posting in this thread and would be interested in talking about various riders on our teams or other things to pass the time, but with no racing on the horizon and a still-scary level of uncertainty as to how far things are going to spread and how our daily lives will be impacted, this is likely the last update for awhile. Take care out there!



spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8t866hhqqhutvn/CQ%202020%20Update%2010.xlsx?dl=0)

Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Flo on March 20, 2020, 09:34
 :dizzy
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: just some guy on June 08, 2020, 12:44
Skids what is the plan here?

Any chance of a new game? I didn't enter RL was a bit crazy, but new calander might mean a new way to look at squads?
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on July 05, 2020, 20:23
Quote from: skidmark
Update #11: Slovenia gives a few bites of CQ action, flips the standings at the top

Hey everyone, welcome back! I've been doing my regular remote spring/summer work here in Canada and the accompanying limited internet, so I am a bit late with this mini-update. Plus I decided to wait until the Slovenian TT championships were over because otherwise I'd have two weeks of virtually identical updates. So, this update covers the two CQ weeks that were covered by those championships, the first CQ points scored since Paris-Nice. Seventeen teams in the CQ Ranking Manager Game scored points in Slovenia.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Jakob747   110
1   Marek   110
1   Jon_Ezeitza   110
4   yoyokt   81
5   search   50
5   DJ Sprtsch   50
5   Martin   50
5   Gigs_98   50
5   LukasCPH   50
5   dimasotf   50
5   PremierAndrew   50
5   del1962   50
5   Blues in the bottle   50
5   Sneekes   50
5   greenedge   50
5   NorthAmericanScum   50
5   Popchu   50

Three teams picked Pogacar, and he scored 110 points. That's your podium here. Pogacar picks up right where he left off in the early season, already reclaiming 531 of his 1519 cost. Obviously it'll be tougher to score much higher than that in a reduced calendar, but he can be pretty great value nonetheless. Mohoric (14 teams) had 50 points, and yoyokt had 31 on top of that from unique pick Tratnik.

(A couple of notes on the spreadsheet that I noticed - due to rider name spelling changes, Popchu, Leadbelly and Blue Roads got some negative points on their teams this week. I haven't corrected that on this sheet yet because that would give them back those points this week. I will be correcting those before the next update, but if you see any other teams with these issues please let me know.)

This Week's High Movers

Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Marek   (+15)
2   Jon_Ezeitza   (+10)
3   Popchu   (+7)
3   PremierAndrew   (+7)
5   del1962   (+6)
5   greenedge   (+6)

Two of the three teams with Pogacar moved up double digit spots; it's weird to see such moves on this few points in June, but of course this is just update 11 so it's essentially as if it were early March. The other team with Pogacar we will get to in a sec.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   190.7
2   Hakkie2   116
3   EvansIsTheBest   113
4   Leadbelly   80
5   ChrisDK   79

A reminder explanation of this competition, how it works in general, and how it works in specific situation of ties and limited scoring weeks. So this is based off of the Green Jersey in the Tour, and points are awarded every week as they would be in stages for the Tour, ie for the top 15 finishers. We adopted these rules when the Tour stages were in their mid-2010s point iterations, 45 for 1st, then 35 for 2nd, 30 for 3rd, and then 26-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2. This has stuck even though the Tour has changed to a more top-heavy system.

When there is a tie, I average the scores that are covered by the tie, and if the average is not an integer value, round to the nearest tenth. So, because there was a three way tie at the top, the 45-35-30 for 1st through 3rd is 110 points in total divided by 3 teams, 36.666 per team (rounded to 36.7). The teams that tie for 5th this week get 10.1 points each.

Just barely more than 15 teams scored this week, so full points were awarded - there is a different system when there are less than 15 teams scoring. All that is to say that the teams that won this week got lucky in being awarded full points in a reduced week, and benefiting quite a bit was Jakob747, who was already in the lead of this competition. But them's the rules, what can I say, it's been a weird year. Blame Covid.

Top 10 Overall

Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (+1)   Jakob747 2796
2   (-1)   EvansIsTheBest   2733
3   (-)   Hakkie2   2407
4   (-)   Squire   2250
5   (-)   Object   2218
6   (-)   western_grebe   2186
7   (-)   skidmark   2094
8   (+4)   search   2090
9   (-1)   LaFlorecita   2073
10   (-1)   18-Valve. (pithy)   2065

It may not have been a big week, but it was enough to flip the table at the top! Pogacar blasts Jakob747 over EvansIsTheBest, breaking several months at the top for EITB. Search got 50 points for Mohoric and jumped into the top 10; nobody else in the top 10 got points.

Coming up, I will be keeping an eye on the 2.2 races that are supposed to be happening in Turkey and Poland, but if nobody in this game scores points, I won't do an update. So long as the tentative plans hold, we should resume around the Sibiu Tour on the 23rd, Burgos on the 28th, then three months of madness to the end of the season. It's good to be back.

Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl9mr0400r4jvjc/CQ%202020%20Update%2011.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: search on July 05, 2020, 20:40
Coming up, I will be keeping an eye on the 2.2 races that are supposed to be happening in Turkey and Poland, but if nobody in this game scores points, I won't do an update.

well, here is hope for Banaszek to turn up ;)

Top 10! :cheer :cheer
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on July 18, 2020, 19:52
I was thinking Dan had given me a good chance of topping this week's table, but in all likelihood someone will have a Dillier/Mader or Dillier/Jacobs combo. Though if we're being pedantic the Swiss TT really should have had a separate update as it was raced last week. Maybe I can pick up some points at Puchar Mon tomorrow to overtake the Swiss big cheeses.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on July 21, 2020, 21:20
Quote from: skidmark
(mini) Update #12: Swiss TT champs sneak in there

I went to check the last week (July 12-19) on CQ to see if I needed to do an update, only to realize that the Swiss TT championships happened on the 12th and got it's own CQ spreadsheet update! To honor that, I need to give an update for the week of July 5-12 - even for the meagre amount of points on offer, we actually had half the field (55 teams) score at least a point on the week.


Top Scorers

Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Gigs_98   26
1   del1962   26
1   LaFlorecita   26
1   Armchair cyclist   26
1   Riverside   26
1   karaev   26
1   mineralJ   26
1   Shawnm4747   26

39 teams had Silvan Diller (18 points for 2nd in the Swiss TT), 32 teams had Gino Mader (8 points for 6th place); these 8 teams had them both.


High Movers

Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Armchair cyclist   (+4)
2   NorthAmericanScum   (+2)
2   Shawnm4747   (+2)
2   mineralJ   (+2)
2   LaFlorecita   (+2)
2   shalgo   (+2)
2   Amis_Velo   (+2)
2   Londonpat   (+2)
2   laarsland   (+2)
2   will10   (+2)
2   Riverside   (+2)
2   GP Blanco   (+2)
2   LosBrolin   (+2)
2   rote_laterne   (+2)

Armchair Cyclist had the fortune to be in a bunched-up enough place in the standings to jump 4 spots with 26 points on the week, and gets a mention in the update. Congrats!


Green Jersey

Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   190.7
2   Hakkie2   116
3   EvansIsTheBest   113
4   Leadbelly   80
5   ChrisDK   79

No changes or weekly points in the top 5. The 8-way tie for first place meant each of those teams got 25.1 points for the shared win, but none of them were in the top of the standings to start the week.


Top 10 Overall

Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   Jakob747 2796
2   (-)   EvansIsTheBest   2733
3   (-)   Hakkie2   2415
4   (-)   Squire   2250
5   (-)   Object   2236
6   (-)   western_grebe   2186
7   (+2)   LaFlorecita   2099
8   (-1)   skidmark   2094
9   (-1)   search   2090
10   (-)   18-Valve. (pithy)   2073

LaFlorecita manages a two spot jump this week! No movement in and out of the top 10 this week though. Jakob747 holds onto the lead.


I'll give update #13 later this week (for July 12-19 week), then this week (July 19-26) should have some points from the Sibiu Tour, even though the teams pulling out and rising covid cases are a very inauspicious sign for the resumption of racing. Fingers crossed the restart goes okay and we'll be swimming in CQ points very soon!



spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gfiqlc5wyuvjcba/CQ%202020%20Update%2012.xlsx?dl=0)


The withdrawals at Sibiu are a CQ annoyance. Was counting on Cherkasov and Gabburo to make hay against a fairly weak climbing field. Turek and Toupalik remain, but can't see many points there. Looking at the profiles in Bulgaria and the mainly club opposition, Banaszek is a more likely source of points.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2020, 09:59
Quote from: skidmark

(mini) Update #13: Leadbelly sings a happy tune

There was some racing on the week of July 12-19; not much of relevance to the CQ manager game. But the 2.2 Dookola Mazowsza, the 1.2, uh.... Puchar Ministra Obrony Narodowej (I pray I never have to attempt to say that aloud), and the Croatian nationals happened. As it goes, the only riders picked in this game to score were two unique picks, Daniel Turek who got 20 points and Rait Arm who got 1. And, as it happens, both were picked uniquely by the same team! So that means one team scored points this week.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Leadbelly   21

Congrats Leadbelly, you get your time alone in the sun! Those unique picks certainly can come in handy some weeks in this game.

This Week's High Movers

Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Leadbelly   (+2)

It was enough to move up two spots, so again, Leadbelly's name is in lights!

Green Jersey Competition - same as last week. Since Leadbelly is the only team to score, small-score week points come into play. The long-standing rule is that if fewer than 15 teams score on the week, I give out points in reverse from (normal week) 15th place points up to the number of teams that scored. So since one team scored, they got 1 point, which is what a normal 15th place team would get. Leadbelly is in 4th overall in that competition, but didn't change any places with that point.

Top 10 Overall is unchanged - Leadbelly is actually less than 100 points from the top 10, but the two point jump was from 19th to 17th. Jakob747 stays in first place as we move back towards a real cycling calendar.

Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/egidyylke81t82y/CQ%202020%20Update%2013.xlsx?dl=0)


My own personal update. ;)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on July 31, 2020, 19:55
**note: Hey velorooms! I solved my login issues!! I can update directly here again. Thanks to Leadbelly who copied the updates from CN the last few weeks. Glad we are seeing some racing again... Hope you've all been well and keeping safe**

Update #14: Jakob Keeps Rolling



"Real" racing is back! After a few appetizer nibbles in national championships for a few small countries and some .2 diversions, top teams returned (well, 2 WT teams at least) at the Sibiu Cycling Tour in Romania. And while the tenativeness and withdrawals of teams and riders gave us a glimpse into the fragility of post-covid racing, the CQ points are still the same as they were for a .1 race before covid hit. So, what happened? Well, a familiar name is on top.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Jakob747   156
1   ChrisDK   156
3   LukasCPH   50
4   Bonimenier   48
5   dimasotf   35
5   ray10   35
5   western_grebe   35


Two teams took talented young Austrian Gregor Muhlberger this year, and this week he lived up to his talent, hitting the jackpot by being a good rider from a big team on a race with a good amount of points but mostly small teams. With 156 points this week, he brings his total for the year to within a point of his 2019 total. Jakob747 and ChrisDK are the two teams in question who picked him.  Jakob, of course, was leading the competition coming into this week and had topped the Slovenian nationals week a few weeks ago. ChrisDK is not as high in the overall standings, but has had a few great weeks (as we'll see in the Green Jersey section). LukasCPH manages 3rd on the week with 30 points from Andreas Leknessund and 20 points from unique pick Veljko Stojnic.



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   ChrisDK   (+12)
2   shalgo   (+4)
2   LosBrolin   (+4)
2   Bonimenier   (+4)
5   rote_laterne   (+3)
5   fauniera   (+3)
5   christopherrowe   (+3)


ChrisDK takes the solo win here, as Jakob had nowhere to move up. Shalgo, LosBrolin, and Bonimenier tie for second with a more modest 4 place jump. Interestingly, all 3 had 18 points from Tobias Foss this week (and Bonimenier had 30 more from Leknessund).



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   230.7
2   ChrisDK   119
3   Hakkie2   116
4   EvansIsTheBest   113
5   Sestriere   89.3


The rich get richer here - Jakob and Chris split the top prize this week, getting 40 points each. For Jakob, this gives their team a stratospheric lead of over 110 points, ie. two weekly wins and change. For Chris, 40 points vaults their team into second place in the competition. Sestriere jumps into the top 5 with 13 points on the week too.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   Jakob747   2952
2   (-)   EvansIsTheBest   2733
3   (-)   Hakkie2   2415
4   (-)   Squire   2250
5   (-)   Object   2236
6   (-)   western_grebe   2221
7   (+2)   search   2104
8   (-1)   LaFlorecita   2099
9   (-1)   skidmark   2094
10   (-)   18-Valve. (pithy)   2073


Although it's been fun to get updates again, it's good to remind ourselves that the actual number of points that have been awarded is relatively small. Jakob got 156 more this week to extend their lead over EITB to over 200, but aside from that it was only western grebe (35) and search (14) who scored points in the top 10 this week. So that was the appetizer - with fingers crossed that the revamped, compressed schedule goes as planned, there are going to be a whirlwind of points to come in the next 8-10 weeks.



This week, the Vuelta a Burgos is already underway, the WorldTour kicks off with Strade Bianche on Saturday, the 2.1 Occitainie gets underway on the weekend, and the 1.1 Circuit Getxo happens on Sunday. That itself is just an appetizer for what's to come, with the two Italian monuments, the Dauphine, and a host of other races coming in the next couple of weeks. Here's hoping it all goes down as planned!



Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/s080iacrxijl4kn/CQ%202020%20Update%2014.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on August 05, 2020, 01:09
Update #15: Turn Down for Wout!



WorldTour racing is back, and with it, WorldTour points. While Evenepoel started where he left off in February, winning a .HC race that didn't even have a time trial to further cement the impression that he's an essential pick for this game, another young Flandrien showed that he was back from devastating injury, with Wout Van Aert taking a very hot and dusty Strade Bianche. The result is that the winning team got over 500 points this week, meaning the CQ game is well and truly back in action.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   bminchow   522
2   Wallenquist   485
3   Sneekes   443
4   karaev   435
5   Londonpat   428


bminchow had the right combo of rare riders this week, being one of the 11 teams to pick WvA and his 180 points, as well as one of the 19 teams who believed in Joao Almeida and got rewarded with his 115 points on the week to take him well into profit for this truncated year. Sprinkle in 83 points from Chaves (14 teams), 50 from de la Cruz (7 teams), and a handful from other popular picks, and you've got a winner! Wallenquist had an almost identical lineup, less Chaves, and ends in second place, while Sneekes has the same top 2 as well with a bit less support below.



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   bminchow   (+35)
2   Wallenquist   (+30)
3   Sneekes   (+28)
4   karaev   (+26)
5   Bicycle_Boy   (+25)
5   Londonpat   (+25)

Exact same podium and order here; in fact, the same top 5 plus a tie for 5th place from Bicycle Boy.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   230.7
2   EvansIsTheBest   131
3   Hakkie2   122
4   ChrisDK   119
5   Sestriere   89.3


Jakob747 still well out front here, but some shuffling below as ChrisDK gets taken over by two teams scoring this week and moving up in EITB and Hakkie2. 103 out of 113 teams have scored at least a point in this competition this year.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
Jakob747
3271
2   (-)   EvansIsTheBest   3142
3   (-)   Hakkie2   2758
4   (+2)   western_grebe   2541
5   (-)   Object   2478
6   (+4)   18-Valve. (pithy)   2457
7   (-3)   Squire   2421
8   (+12)   hfgon1   2369
9   (+7)   Northerner   2331
10   (+8)   Leadbelly   2308


Some shakeup here, but not at the top, as Jakob, EITB and Hakkie hold onto their top 3 spots and actually solidify them by being in the top 20 on the week. Some movement down below, though, and a crazy close battle for the bottom half of the top 10... hfgon1, Northerner, and Leadbelly move into the top 10, but two of the three teams that fell out - search and team skidmark - are tied for 11th, a single point behind Leadbelly. And HelgeBlendet is only a further point back in 12th. LaFlorecita wasn't as lucky, as she falls out of the top 10, and top 20, in a single week.



This week, the races keep rolling as Occitainie finished already, as did the three Italian races combined into one, and we've got a bunch more to come, with Pologne, Milano-Torino, Ventoux Challenge, Czech Tour, Tour de l'Ain, and the first monument of the season in the route-altered Milan-San Remo. Holy cow, these are gonna be some packed weeks!



Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qcyvhi2b32ltf7z/CQ%202020%20Update%2015.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on August 05, 2020, 08:37
All right! :cool

Top VR entrant ....... for one week at least. Could make it two if Schachmann and Evenepoel continue their excellent form in Pologne.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on August 11, 2020, 14:45
Update #16: bminchow doubles up while Evans regains the lead



We are back! Our first monument of the season and our first WT race since the return, and we have a week where some teams broke 1000 points, a harbinger of things to come in this compressed season. Let's get right to it!



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   bminchow   1060
2   mineralJ   1049
3   karaev   1038
4   Lortnoc   1002
5   LosBrolin   1000


It's pretty hard to double up on weekly wins in this game save from the small-point bookends of the season, but bminchow manages the impressive feat, edging out mineralJ and karaev for the weekly lead with 1060 points. Of course the lodestone of bminchow's team the last two weeks has been Wout van Aert, who I forgot got a top 3 in Milan-Torino before winning MSR, scoring a massive 365 this week to top last week's already impressive Strade Bianche. The rest of the top of the table isn't the same as last week though, so it wasn't all van Aert - bminchow had a good mix of > 50 points from popular riders (Yates, Kwiatkowski, Aru) and less popular riders (Chaves, Kelderman, Bouhanni sorta). mineralJ had van Aert, Yates and Kwiatko and also previously unmentioned Pinot and Gaviria. karaev landed in third with points from somehow Evenepoel and van Aert but still escaped the win due to less ancillary support.



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   LosBrolin   (+32)
2   bminchow   (+31)
3   Lortnoc   (+30)
4   Wallenquist   (+28)
5   tom_jelte   (+24)


LosBrolin rockets up the standings, and just edges out bminchow to keep their team from achieving the double (or the double-double, since bminchow topped both last week as well). LosBrolin achieved 1000 points on the week despite not having van Aert; apart from Evenepoel, their team was one of 3 to get Michael Matthews' 145 points, as well as a big contribution from the more popular Simon Yates. bminchow jumps another 31 spots after jumping 35 last week, while Lortnoc rounds out the podium with a similar stable of riders to the other high scorers.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   230.7
2   EvansIsTheBest   131
3   Hakkie2   122
4   ChrisDK   119
5   karaev   103.3


No movement or points at the very top here; karaev gets 30 points to jump into the top 5, juuust edging out bminchow who has 103 points overall thanks to the maximum 90 in the last two weeks.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (+1)   
EvansIsTheBest
3939
2   (-1)   Jakob747   3879
3   (-)   Hakkie2   3551
4   (-)   western_grebe   3485
5   (+1)   18-Valve. (pithy)   3342
6   (+11)   karaev   3299
7   (+1)   hfgon1   3248
8   (+7)   Londonpat   3214
9   (-4)   Object   3212
10   (+1)   skidmark   3203


Before the shutdown, EvansIsTheBest and Jakob747 were trading blows atop the standings, and that has continued in the slow restart, and now into the full-blown restart. EITB manages 797 points to Jakob's 608 this week, and retakes first place as a result. Jakob looks to swing back this week with Pogacar and Higuita in action. The top half of the top 10 is relatively stable, but lower down there's some movement and a very tight 96 points separating 6th from 10th. karaev, Londonpat and team skidmark enter the top 10, while Squire, Leadbelly and Northerner slide out.



This week, this mad lib of a season continues, coming out of Milan San Remo and the Tour of Poland into the Dauphine and our second monument of the season, Il Lombardia.



Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxy6o8oubvg19r3/CQ%202020%20Update%2016.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on August 11, 2020, 18:18
850+ points and I still drop two places. :angry

Aranburu starting to look not such a hopeless selection after all. Shame he's doing the Giro as with this form you could see him picking up points in the Ardennes.

Some signs of life from Vervaeke and Vakoc. The Alpecin picks in general though aren't doing very well. Wake up lads!
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on August 19, 2020, 05:20
Update #17: Another 1000 point week, but crashes change the complexion of the game



We are flying getting back in action this season, with some very exciting racing on the last day of the Dauphine, and some pre-TdF drama with racers crashing out or pulling out or having aftereffects of crashes that raise question marks for nearly all the favourites for the Tour (let alone the poor form that seems to exist on the two Ineos British former Tour winners). But for any racing fan, it was one particular crash this weekend that left you with your heart in your throat for about 20 minutes on Saturday. The (almost literally) unbelievable phenom Evenepoel had his season seemingly end on a very scary crash on the descent of the Sormano, and although the severity of what could have happened far overshadows the consequences for this frivolous game, those CQ game consequences are not minor. He was looking to be the most essential pick of the game, and most of the top of the field had him. So obviously, his absence will be felt in this game. Here is hoping for a full recovery and future inspiration and excitement in the CQ game for him.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   BlueRoads   1260
2   DJ Sprtsch   1178
3   sodak_za   981
4   Manafana   957
5   oliveira   913


Some big points again this week. BlueRoads rockets up the standings (more on that below) with a huge 1260 points, and a duo of high scoring rare picks. Dani Martinez (305 points this week) and George Bennett (300) were both picked by 9 teams, and BlueRoads was one of those 9 for both. Padded by good points from more popular picks like Pinot, Dumoulin and an impressive Lennard Kamna, as well as >100 points for a still-rolling-in-the-points Wout Van Aert,  BlueRoads has a hugely top-heavy lineup - aside from those named riders, their team had one rider at 15 points and then a handful at 5 or less on the week, but that was it. DJ Sprtsch nabs 2nd with a pretty incredible in its own right 1178 points, from most of the top riders named above sans Bennett, but plus >100 points from Romain Bardet and Sepp Kuss. sodak_za rounds out the podium by getting almost 1000 points with a very similar lineup to DJ Sprtsch, minus Kuss and a few minor contributors.



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   BlueRoads   (+51)
2   DJ Sprtsch   (+47)
3   oliveira   (+31)
4   flashke   (+27)
5   Gigs_98   (+26)


The top 2 from the previous listing top this one too by a wide margin, both moving up nearly half the table in a single week. Third goes to oliveira, moving up 31 spots on the backs of most of the previously mentioned riders, plus hitting the jackpot with 130 points from Jonas Rickaert, who was picked by 13 teams at a cost of 23 points, which he bettered significantly with a win in Hageland.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   230.7
2   ChrisDK   139
3   EvansIsTheBest   131
4   Hakkie2   122
5   karaev   103.3


ChrisDK nabs 20 points this week for 6th place on the week, which catapults their team into 2nd overall. The rest of the leaderboard stays static.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
EvansIsTheBest
4603
2   (-)   Jakob747   4463
3   (+2)   18-Valve. (pithy)   4151
4   (-1)   Hakkie2   3951
5   (+1)   karaev   3933
6   (-2)   western_grebe   3901
7   (-)   hfgon1   3884
8   (+17)   sodak_za   3880
9   (+4)   mineralJ   3829
10   (-1)   Object   3822


EvansIsTheBest maintains their team lead, and in fact gains 80 points on Jakob747. Things did not go quite as hoped for Jakob this week, with his 3 expensive studs getting results from 'pretty good' (Pogacar with 188 points despite an off day in the Dauphine) to 'bad but understandable' (Higuita with an opening day crash that doesn't appear to impede his prospects for the remainder of the season) to 'Remco Evenepoel at Lombardia' (Remco Evenepoel at Lombardia). Still, the two are still quite out front, although of course with 1000 point weeks flying around these days, a 300 point gap isn't much. 18-Valve jumps a couple of spots to round out the podium, and sodak_za catapults into the top 10 alongside mineralJ, while Londonpat and skidmark slide out.



Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6annnuxy0fbcgvigwyj08/CQ-2020-Update-17.xlsx?dl=0&rlkey=aaqba6a11jmbj8d6gd7psyo5u)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on August 25, 2020, 23:15
Update #18: A Quieter Week Still Reshuffles the Standings



With no WorldTour races, and riders that weren't picked or were quite rare in the game taking up the wins in the major national championships as well as Wallonie, Emillia and Limousin, it was a bit of a breather in between the last few frantic weeks and the start of the TdF in terms of point totals. Still, although the very top of the overall standings remains stratified, it is quite the jumble just below jockeying for position.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Nathanptz   439
2   ChrisDK   419
3   Mayomaniac   401
4   Nyssinator   390
5   Luthor   378
5   Wallenquist   378


It's not an 1000 point week, but 439 points will still serve you well in this game, and Nathanptz takes the week by 20 points over ChrisDK. Nathanptz collected a good breadth of points from national championship placings for relatively rare riders, like 84 from Eekhoff and Ballerini (18 and 22 teams), 78 from Ruben Fernandez (17 teams), 70 from the eternal fountain of Wout van Aert (11 teams), and 62 from Ivan Garcia Cortina (10 teams). ChrisDK took a different route as their team often has this year, front-loading with 137 points from unique pick Clement Venturini, 130 from the impressive Vlasov (2 teams), and 78 from unique pick Senechal. Mayomaniac rounds out the podium and cracks 400 points as well.



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Nathanptz   (+18)
2   ChrisDK   (+16)
3   Mayomaniac   (+15)
4   Sestriere   (+13)
5   VeloRooms   (+12)
5   Luthor   (+12)


The exact same top 3 in the exact same order top this list as well; all 3 teams parlay their points gains into double digit leaps up the standings.



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   230.7
2   ChrisDK   174
3   EvansIsTheBest   131
4   Hakkie2   122
5   Sestriere   107.3


Some teams on the Green Jersey standings are also the teams right at the top of the overall standings, and some have teams more suited to weekly bursts, and this mix is no different. ChrisDK gains 35 points (on top of 20 last week) to solidify second, although Jakob747 is still comfortably in first by over 50 points. ChrisDK's team is full of rare or unique riders, and the combo is going impressively this year, with their team inside the top 25 overall, but with some very strong weeks in the rankings due to distinct riders standing out. Sestriere gets 18 points on the week to jump into the top 5 too.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
EvansIsTheBest
4801
2   (-)   Jakob747   4699
3   (-)   18-Valve. (pithy)   4282
4   (-)   Hakkie2   4152
5   (+9)   Nyssinator   4093
6   (-1)   karaev   4054
6   (+3)   mineralJ   4054
8   (+5)   skidmark   4053
9   (-1)   sodak_za   4050
10   (+5)   BlueRoads   4032


Jakob747 gains 38 points on EvansIsTheBest this week, but none of the top 4 overall finished in the top 30 of the week. Even so, their built lead was such that they weathered the storm and maintained the status quo. Not so in the second half of the top 10. A mere 61 points separate 5th to 10th, and in fact going down further, 16th place is only 82 points back of 10th. So there is quite the battle for positioning coming into the Tour - especially note that 6th to 9th are separated by a mere 4 points!! Very exciting stuff. Nyssinator, skidmark and BlueRoads enter the top 10 this week, while western grebe, Object and hfgon1 fall out (but, as noted, are not far away from a potential return).



This week the points action is all in France - Bretagne Classic and Euros in Brittany, and the Tour gets underway in Nice on Saturday. Big daily points over the next 3 weeks as we get into Grand Tour season!



Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cxhi9h5rwjjw9x8/CQ%202020%20Update%2018.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 29, 2020, 01:28
While you may be thinking about who from your CQ team is in the Tour: you have about 12 hours remaining to consider instead who will be in your Tour CQ Game team (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=9634.0).  [/shameless plug]
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on September 02, 2020, 02:30
Update #19: Nathanptz doubles up as Tour begins



It was in some ways another relatively quiet week, as the points on display weren't enormous. In other ways, though, it was a wild week, coming out of the national championships, having the European championships sandwiched with the Bretagne Classic, and of course the start of the biggest race of all, the TdF. But unlike most opening Tour weekends, there were a number of overlapping events, including the HC/PS Brussels Classic, two normally late-season Italian 1.1 races, the 2.1 Poitou Charentes, and another 1.1 in Belgium. So how did it end up?



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Nathanptz   557
2   Ferminal   520
3   LaFlorecita   488
4   SafeBet   460
5   JPettersen   455


Nathanptz gets a second weekly win in a row! This is usually a pretty rare occurrence in the game, but Nathanptz has become the second team to do it in the last month after bminchow's earlier success. Nathanptz's team was led by 144 points from a very on-form Davide Ballerini, who got 2nd in Brussels, 6th in the Euros after leading out Nizzolo, and 4th in Overijse this week. Also contributing were Ivan Garcia (86 points), Quinn Simmons (76 points) and 66 each from Bouhanni and Eekhoff. Ferminal clears 500 points for second place on the week, largely due to Michael Matthews' win in Plouay (220 points, 3 teams), and supporting points from Ballerini. Flo nabs third thanks largely to the combo of Ballerini, Bouhanni, and Garcia, as well as 80 from a finally resurgent Fabio Felline.



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Ferminal   (+20)
2   Nathanptz   (+19)
3   LaFlorecita   (+15)
4   flashke   (+13)
4   TheArt   (+13)


The same podium on this ranking, with a reversal at the top as Fermi just outgains Nathanptz, moving up 20 spots on the overall.



This Month's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points This Month
1   BlueRoads   2538
2   Nathanptz   2526
3   ChrisDK   2387
4   bminchow   2361
5   Lortnoc   2328


No surprise to see our two aforementioned double weekly winners here in Nathanptz and bminchow, but it's the team that won the week in between their reigns that just takes the monthly title. BlueRoads had a wonderful month, reaping over 2500 points from some savvy rare picks. Primary amongst those was the man of the month, Wout Van Aert, who accumulated 522 points since the restart, a great haul for the 11 teams who believed in his comeback this year. Also performing quite well for BlueRoads was a pair of riders who were only picked by 9 teams, George Bennett (350 points) and Dani Martinez (305), with the more popular Thibaut Pinot (330 points, 60 teams) also clearing 300 on the month. Also netting over 100 points for BlueRoads is the slightly more popular Tom Dumoulin, as well as Lennard Kamna, Andrea Bagioli and Quinn Simmons. Nathanptz appears on yet another leaderboard, with the essential Van Aert and Martinez, but also 284 points from Davide Ballerini (22 teams) and 233 from Nils Eekhoff (18 teams). ChrisDK lands third going a different route than the other two, with only the Dauphine winner Martinez in common. ChrisDK's team was headed by (or, to be more accurate, is almost solely constituted of) rare picks, chief among them 484 points from Alexandr Vlasov (2 teams). Unique pick Florian Senechal (336 points), rare pick Alex Aranburu (3 teams, 229 points), and riders picked by two teams (Pavel Sivakov, Richie Porte, Luka Mezgec) all netted the team more than 135 points.



This Month's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   BlueRoads   (+58)
2   Nathanptz   (+55)
3   ChrisDK   (+46)
4   flashke   (+44)
5   Lortnoc   (+40)


The exact same podium here, and 4 of the same top 5, as these teams use the good month to rocket up the standings, with BlueRoads and Nathanptz in particular leaping up about halfway up the table.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
EvansIsTheBest
5017
2   (-)   Jakob747   4935
3   (-)   18-Valve. (pithy)   4574
4   (+4)   skidmark   4489
5   (+1)   mineralJ   4411
6   (-1)   Nyssinator   4359
7   (+19)   Nathanptz   4341
8   (-4)   Hakkie2   4336
9   (+7)   bminchow   4329
10   (+9)   JPettersen   4319


Again, no change at the very top as the podium remains identical to last week. EITB and Jakob both finish mid-pack for the week and Jakob gains another 20 points to pull 82 points behind EITB for first. Both maintain a decent lead over the rest of the field. The bottom half of the top 10 is quite close once again, with 40 points separating 6th to 10th. Nathanptz parlays a winning week into a leap into the top 10, and bminchow and JPettersen join in the top 10 entrants, while sodak za, karaev and BlueRoads slide out.


Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/47vaxtp5p105vpn/CQ%202020%20Update%2019.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on September 09, 2020, 02:29
Update #20: Wallenquist Tops as Tour Rolls on



Well, another week, another 160 points from Wout Van Aert. With relative quiet aside from the Tour (2.1 races in Coppi e Bartali and Hungary, but with few riders in this game), numbers weren't as crazy as the early weeks of the restart, but there were still a healthy amount of points up for grabs.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Wallenquist   598
2   Jon_Ezeitza   560
3   Yellow Knight   493
4   BlueRoads   467
5   Josedin   464


Wallenquist takes the week with almost 600 points. Their team's top scorer is the aforementioned Van Aert, who added two Tour stages to his prodigious palmares of the last couple of months.  Van Aert now has 892 points, 6 away from matching his total of last year, despite the truncated season. Also scoring highly for Wallenquist were Andrea Bagioli (117 points, 35 teams), Joao Almeida (71 points, 19 teams), and two young guys who added 'oh, they can climb too' to their profile this week in Quinn Simmons (90 points) and Thomas Pidcock (47 points). Jon Ezeitza settles for second on the week, without Van Aert but one of the 3 owners of Tadej Pogacar (132 points), as well as the other aforementioned riders. Yellow Knight rounds out the podium led by 147 points from Jonathan Narvaez (10 teams) and contributing points from rare picks Sam Bennett and Peter Sagan.



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Wallenquist   (+21)
2   Jon_Ezeitza   (+20)
3   Bicycle_Boy   (+16)
4   Josedin   (+14)
4   Salvarani   (+14)
4   escartin   (+14)


Same top two high movers here, with both Wallenquist and Jon Ezeitza moving up over 20 places. Bicycle Boy nabs third here.



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   230.7
2   ChrisDK   192
3   EvansIsTheBest   131
4   Wallenquist   122
4   Hakkie2   122


Wallenquist's points move them into the top 5, while everything else at the top holds steady. Jon Ezeitza's 35 points on the week move them juuuust behind the top 5, with 121.7 points.


Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
EvansIsTheBest
5244
2   (-)   Jakob747   5220
3   (+3)   Nyssinator   4753
4   (-)   skidmark   4728
5   (+4)   bminchow   4714
6   (+10)   BlueRoads   4698
7   (-2)   mineralJ   4665
8   (-1)   Nathanptz   4654
9   (+10)   Lortnoc   4634
10   (-)   JPettersen   4613


It is continuing to tighten at the top! Jakob747 gains 58 more points on EvansIsTheBest, drawing closer for the third week in a row - 24 points  now separate them. They retain a healthy lead over the rest of the pack, nearly 500 points, although given that both of them have the out-for-the-season Evenepoel, the teams in their wake must feel at least a glimmer of hope. In the last several weeks, 18-Valve has been a distance behind but steadily in 3rd place, but has a very unfortunate week of just 34 points, which means their team drops 8 places to 11th, out of the top 10. Also sliding out is Hakkie2, while BlueRoads and Lortnoc each jump 10 places to land in the top 10.



Spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6lq3utv332gbs1/CQ%202020%20Update%2020.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on September 09, 2020, 09:16
The long slide starts here. All my big hitters are now injured or turned out to be rubbish.....
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on September 16, 2020, 03:20
Update #21: The Stages of Success



It's a bit of a transition week in the CQ game - although the Tour is in full force and the dissonance of the season continued with Tirenno-Adriatico overlapping, neither race awarded GC points in this update. Aside from a couple of 2.2 races and a 1.1 race won by a cyclo-crosser, the WT points this week came solely from stages (which included three wins by cyclo-crossers off the top of my head, so maybe the takeaway is that cyclo-crossers are killing it on the road these days). Let's see how it shook out.



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   triley36   416
2   Eric10   393
3   zaka_fan   387
4   comodoro   385
5   DJ Sprtsch   382


triley36 comes out on top as the only team to top 400 points; Soren Kragh Andersen was the star for their team, parlaying a 1st and 3rd in Tour stages into 115 points for his 43 owners. Wins from Marc Hirschi (15 teams) and Dani Martinez (9 teams) supplemented 50 points for a 2nd place from Lennard Kamna (spoiler alert - at least 80 more to come this week) and 80 points from Simon Yates (also more to come). Eric10 comes in second, swapping in Lucas Hamilton (45 points) in place of Dani Martinez from the above combination,  and zaka_fan rounds out the podium with 60 from Sagan and 50 from Merlier to supplement Andersen/Yates/Kamna.



This Week's High Movers



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   dimasotf   (+13)
2   triley36   (+12)
3   Nicosix   (+10)
3   Eric10   (+10)
3   Team_Instigator   (+10)
3   DJ Sprtsch   (+10)
3   zaka_fan   (+10)


We are 21 weeks into the CQ season so 400 points isn't going to take you as far up the standings as earlier, but some teams still manage a double digit leap. dimasotf tops this one, riding Andersen/Yates/Kamna/Merlier/Hamilton to a 13 place rise. triley36 comes in second here, whereas 5 teams tie for third.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   236.7
2   ChrisDK   192
3   EvansIsTheBest   131
4   Wallenquist   122
4   Hakkie2   122


No scoring for the top teams aside from the one at the very top. Jakob747 gets 13th on the week and 6 more points in this competition, extending the lead over second place ChrisDK to 44.7 points. Of course a weekly win is worth 45 points, so ChrisDK is still technically within reach of the lead on any given week. The rest of the pack is quite a ways back.



Top 10 Overall




Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (+1)   
Jakob747
5552
2   (-1)   EvansIsTheBest   5460
3   (-)   Nyssinator   5035
4   (+4)   Nathanptz   5000
5   (-1)   skidmark   4999
6   (-)   BlueRoads   4944
7   (+2)   Lortnoc   4914
8   (-3)   bminchow   4893
9   (-2)   mineralJ   4887
10   (+2)   Wallenquist   4844


There is a change at the very top for the first time in weeks. After slowly creeping up for a few weeks, Jakob747 gains 116 points on EvansIsTheBest thanks partially to Pogacar's amazing run, although that is likely to pay off more in the upcoming week. EITB remains comfortably in second for now, while Nyssinator stays in third. 150 points separates 3rd and 9th, so it's quite tight below the top two. Wallenquist moves into the top 10 at the expense of JPettersen.



The upcoming week has not only GC points for the Tour, but also for Tirenno, which ended on Monday. And for good measure, there are no fewer than 3 one-day races in Italy, and 1.1s in France and Belgium. It definitely has the potential for a points bonanza and an upheaval in the standings.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on September 21, 2020, 00:34
Correction: Week 21 standings in error



I was alerted to a formula error that affected the standings this week. Mellow Velo's team page was reading Quinn Simmons' seasonal score as his 'score last week' on the otherwise empty line below his name, and the 'this week points' column measured as if he had zero points from this season up to this week and 195 points up until last week, so the formula ended up giving Mellow Velo's team -195 points on this week, netted against the overall. With the correction, Mellow Velo's team actually won the week! Here are the restated standings:



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Mellow Velo   443
2   triley36   416
3   Eric10   393
4   zaka_fan   387
5   comodoro   385


Mellow Velo's correct points total allowed their team to enter the top 5 of the high movers as well:



Rank   Team   Up/down
1   dimasotf   (+13)
2   triley36   (+12)
3   Mellow Velo   (+11)
4   Nicosix   (+10)
4   Team_Instigator   (+10)
4   zaka_fan   (+10)


I adjusted the Green Jersey standings appropriately as well. Simmons only started scoring a few weeks back, so I looked back to see if the error affected other weeks. There was one week where Mellow Velo would have finished 14th, so I adjusted the points accordingly as well.



Thanks all! I'm very curious to see what this week's standings will look like.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on September 22, 2020, 06:46
Update #22: Yes, This Week Was as Big as You Thought it Was



This week saw not only the end of the biggest race of the year and highest CQ points of the year in the Tour de France, but the normal effect that has on other races - to avoid the Tour's schedule, unless you're counterprogramming like the Tour of Austria or occasionally Poland in an Olympic year - was null and void in the year of covid, and GC points for another top-tier WT race in T-A happened too, as well as a host of one-day Italian races, the 2.1 Tour of Slovakia, and a few one-day races in France and Belgium. So, how did that affect the points totals and standings? The answer is, a whole lot.



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Jakob747   1937
2   Object   1802
3   Nicosix   1785
4   Marek   1773
5   Salvarani   1703


Is 1937 the most points ever in a week? I am not a good enough historian to know off the top of my head, but I think maybe there was one week where someone broke 2000? I really don't know. But there is absolutely crazy strength in depth here - a full on 99 out of 113 teams scored at least 1000 points this week. So although lots of people scored at least 1/7.5 of their team's cost in a single week, your value above replacement level may vary.



One team that was certainly not complaining was the already-in-first-place Jakob747. One of the few teams that took a fairly wild-seeming chance on Pogacar at the start of the year, Jakob has reaped the benefits of beliefs in his young talents, and this week is the pinnacle of that faith. The 833 points from the young Slovenian and his phenomenal ride this week is definitely the highlight, but his selective more popular choices in Simon Yates (289) and Tom Dumoulin (282) really helped pad things too, as well as semi-rare picks like Steimle (158, 24 teams) and Kamna (124, 46 teams) and double stage-winner SKA (102, 43 teams) gaining over 100 points as well.



Object has little to complain about other than not getting first, as their team picked up 1802 points without Pogacar if you can believe it, but as one of the two who believed in Richie Porte (443 points), as well as more usual suspects of Yates, Dumoulin, Kwiatkowski, Andersen, as well as the rarer Sepp Kuss. Nicosix grabs third with an incredible grab-bag of riders including the more common Yates and Dumoulin, but also both main green jersey combatants Sagan (107 points) and Bennett (183 points), comeback kid Uran (203 points), Kelderman (146) and the ninja superdom Damiano Caruso (167, 2 teams).



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Marek   (+32)
2   Nicosix   (+22)
3   Salvarani   (+19)
4   flashke   (+17)
4   abbulf   (+17)


Well Jakob had absolutely zero spots to move up, so this ranking was going to be different, but Marek takes the prize, leaping up almost a third of the standings with a top loaded team of Pogacar, Yates, Dumoulin and Gaviria. Nicosix is the only double podium finisher, while Salvarani jumps almost 20 spots to take third.



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   279.7
2   ChrisDK   192
3   Wallenquist   132
4   EvansIsTheBest   131
5   Hakkie2   122


I mean, there are a good few weeks left in the season that goes into November, but holy crap. Jakob has an almost two-week lead on the next closest competitor in the contest, and for third-place Wallenquist to catch Jakob, their team would have to win 3 weeks to double their score (135 points more to make 267), and then another top placing. Wow, this is like peak Sagan green jersey stuff.





Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
Jakob747
7489
2   (-)   EvansIsTheBest   6603
3   (+11)   Object   6530
4   (+1)   skidmark   6493
5   (+4)   mineralJ   6430
6   (+4)   Wallenquist   6413
7   (+4)   Londonpat   6378
8   (-1)   Lortnoc   6362
9   (-6)   Nyssinator   6335
10   (-2)   bminchow   6306


Whew! Everything is coming up Jakob. After moving back into first last week, Jakob747 wins the week with one of the biggest weekly totals ever, so their lead balloons to almost 900 points. Literally 3 other teams are within 1000 points. However - Evenepoel's season is done, I'm not sure what Pogacar is doing but normally his season would be over after TdF victory, and Higuita sadly crashed out of the Tour. Jakob has picked wisely in taking Yates and Dumoulin, but the risk-heavy, top-heavy team has its strong weeks and its less strong weeks, and there may be less strong weeks to come. It is a giant cushion, though, and sincere hats off for having it all come together. As someone who plays this game in a pretty calculated way, I admire those willing to take big risks, and Jakob's passion for obscure and developing riders has always been evident, so I am genuinely thrilled to see it paying off. But I'm still counting the points between us with interest! EvansIsTheBest holds on to second, albeit now closer to those behind than those ahead, and Object turns their fantastic week to a huge jump onto the podium. Even with all the hubbub, the only new entrants into the top 10 are Object and Londonpat, while BlueRoads and Nathanptz fall out.



This next week - well, we get a calm week coming down from the Tour, right? No wait, it's the Worlds. This truncated season is thoroughly dizzying.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on September 28, 2020, 23:35
Update #23: Wout Won't Stop



This week, the Worlds were the main course - normally of course, they'd be about the only thing, but in this pandemic-smushed schedule there were also a couple of 1.1 races in France and, very strangely, the Belgium nationals (with most of the best Belgian riders absent, no shade to Dries de Bondt). Alaphilippe was only picked by one player in this game (congrats to Josedin, who unfortunately only saw the rest of their team score 35 points and finished mid-table), so the top of the weekly table was dominated by those who had the double bridesmaid Wout van Aert. Perhaps unsurprisingly, teams with this fount of CQ points also dominate the top of the overall standings.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   BlueRoads   1049
2   Nathanptz   866
3   tom_jelte   829
4   bminchow   823
5   Londonpat   810


BlueRoads cracks 1000 this week! As one of the 11 teams with WvA, their team is led with his 390 points, but as one of the 15 who also have Hirschi, there's 210 more, plus 180 from the more popular Kwiatkowski. And the cherry on top, 80 points from unique pick Dorian Godon for winning Paris-Camembert. Nathanptz will have to be content with 866 points on the week, as their team slots into second with the WvA-Hirschi combo accentuated by the 120 points stealthily scored away from the TV cameras by Nacer Bouhanni this week. tom-jelte nabs the final podium spot with the same combo as Nathanptz but subbing out Hirschi for Kwiatkowski and his 30 fewer points for being a tire's width behind.



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   tom_jelte   (+20)
2   karaev   (+19)
3   Ferminal   (+18)
4   flashke   (+15)
5   will10   (+13)


For once, this ranking is almost entirely different from the Top Scorers, largely due to the fact that most of the teams with WvA are quite high in the overall standings already and don't have far to rise. tom-jelte is the only repeat name on the list, moving up to 1st on this ranking with a 20 place jump. karaev is one slot behind (with an impressively top-heavy team of WvA, Bouhanni and Dumoulin plus 16 other points), and Ferminal takes third as the first team mentioned so far without van Aert, and one of the few with Matthews (128 points) and Geraint Thomas (110).



This Month's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points This Month
1   Wallenquist   3175
2   Londonpat   3034
3   BlueRoads   2995
4   Lortnoc   2889
5   mineralJ   2824


Wallenquist won a week a few weeks back, and was consistent enough over the weeks of September to take the top spot on the week, with a massive 3175 points. Of course, their top scorer by a mile was Wout van Aert (742 on the month), but solid contributions from the ubiquitous Dumoulin (372), the pretty popular Simon Yates (370), and the slightly less popular Kwiatkowski (314) helped as well. Soren Kragh (220), Lennard Kamna (174), Ethan Hayter (170) and Andrea Bagioli (127) were other notable contributors. Londonpat had the same top 4 scorers and some of the others, with Bouhanni (213) and Gaviria (169) subbing in. This week's winner BlueRoads comes very close to 3000 on the month, nabbing 2995 with much of the same lineup swapping Hirschi's 371 on the month for Yates' 370.



This Month's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Salvarani   (+39)
2   flashke   (+33)
3   Nicosix   (+29)
4   armchairclimber   (+28)
5   Wallenquist   (+27)


This list looks different than the last one as well! Again, as in the weekly ratings, many of the 11 teams with WvA were already somewhat high in the standings, so perhaps there wasn't that much higher to rise. Salvarani doesn't have van Aert, but has many of the other usual suspects in the Top Scorers list, with notable new name Enric Mas, who got 322 points for his 7 owners. Rare picks Kuss (145 points) and Narvaez (147) helped out too. Neither of the two other podium places have WvA either, as flashke (notable unmentioned riders included rare picks Uran with 222 and Alexander Krieger with 185) and Nicosix (Sagan, Sam Bennett, Kelderman, Caruso) make do without the cyclo-crosser as well.



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   279.7
2   ChrisDK   192
3   Nathanptz   151
4   BlueRoads   148
4   Wallenquist   148


Jakob's fairly unassailable lead doesn't give up any ground to the closest competition, but it's buzzing below. Nathanptz, BlueRoads and Wallenquist were all in the top 10 scorers of the week and so used it as a springboard into the top 5 of this ranking. 6th overall bminchow also had 26 points on the week.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
Jakob747
7637
2   (+3)   mineralJ   7235
3   (+10)   BlueRoads   7226
4   (+3)   Londonpat   7188
5   (+5)   bminchow   7129
6   (-)   Wallenquist   7123
7   (+1)   Lortnoc   7068
8   (+6)   Nathanptz   7026
9   (-6)   Object   7005
10   (-6)   skidmark   6983


Jakob747's post-Tour honeymoon was a short one, and the Worlds was a harsh reminder that the honeymoon is over and it's time to go back to work. Their team's 900-point buffer was more than cut in half this week, as places 2-8 overall were all in the top 10 of the week with >700 points (not coincidentally, those are 7 of the 11 owners of WvA), whereas Jakob was 105th with 148 points. Still, they have a 400-point buffer, Pogacar appears to be racing on, Higuita is on the mend, and Simon Yates is one of the few more popular expensive riders Jakob took and he looks like a Giro favourite. So we are gearing up for an interesting finish - if Van Aert can carry his form even further into the classics, it looks good for one of the top 8.  Slightly more than 250 points separates places 2-10 so it is still pretty wide open. Last week may have been a massive week with Tour GC points and others, but this week sees almost as much shakeup in the standings at the top. BlueRoads uses the weekly win to skyrocket into the top 10, and Nathanptz enters with a similar flourish, while two teams fall out. Nyssinator slips from 9th to 13th, while EvansIsTheBest finally runs out of gas after being in either 1st or 2nd since before the pandemic, sliding 9 spots to 11th place. Much respect for the long run at the top.



Normally when the Worlds wrap up, we have a few weird end of season races left, some 1.1s in France and Italy ramping up to Lombardia and the shoehorned-in WT race in China. But since it's 2020 and everything is upended, the Worlds is followed by a week with the BinkBank Tour, Fleche and Liege, the Tour of Portugal, and the start of the Giro. A few more breakneck weeks to go! Good luck everyone, hope you're staying safe.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on October 05, 2020, 23:50
Update #24: It's Reeeeeally Close at the Top Now



Despite the cancellation of one stage, the BinkBank Tour offered the full complement of stage race points, which when combined with Liege/Fleche, the start of the Giro, the 2.1 Vuelta a Portugal and a few minor country NCs, led to yet another week where the top teams flirted with 1000 points.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   DJ Sprtsch   1043
2   Mellow Velo   1002
3   BlueRoads   916
4   SafeBet   888
5   triley36   885


Indeed, the top 2 teams do clear the 1000-point barrier, and DJ Sprtsch wins fairly comfortably with 1043. Of course their team was one of the 15 with Hirschi, whose 390 points on the week were enormous, although I'm sure his owners are all asking if he should have gotten even more had that sprint been clean (I'm of a mind from the overhead shot that Pogacar had a good shot at taking it with the speed he was carrying, but I guess we'll never know). Soren Kragh Andersen's 208 points were welcome as well, and the top-heavy team is complemented by 136 from rare pick Mohoric (14 teams) and 138 from the more popular Kwiatkowski (65). Mellow Velo doesn't repeat their (corrected) weekly victory a few weeks ago, but clears 1000 as well, missing Mohoric from the above configuration but closing the gap a little with more riders scoring a few dozen here and there. BlueRoads, last week's winner, keeps up a good streak with 3rd here thanks to Hirschi, Kwiatko, and 160 from unique pick Benoit Cosnefroy.



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   Mellow Velo   (+32)
2   Eric10   (+30)
3   DJ Sprtsch   (+26)
4   armchairclimber   (+17)
4   del1962   (+17)


Mellow Velo comes out tops in this one, leaping an impressive 32 spots. DJ Sprtsch double podiums with a third place, while Eric10 is the newcomer to this ranking after ranking just outside the top 5 in Top Scorers.



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   279.7
2   ChrisDK   192
3   BlueRoads   178
4   Nathanptz   151
5   Wallenquist   148


BlueRoads has two great weeks in a row, but it's not enough to overtake the giant lead that the top two have on the rest of the field (and, within that, the huge lead Jakob still has over ChrisDK). No points scored in the top 5 other than BlueRoads.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
Jakob747
8147
2   (+1)   BlueRoads   8142
3   (+1)   Londonpat   7670
4   (+2)   Wallenquist   7669
5   (+3)   Nathanptz   7619
6   (+3)   Object   7600
7   (-2)   bminchow   7527
8   (-1)   Lortnoc   7524
9   (-7)   mineralJ   7499
10   (+4)   SafeBet   7489


Two weeks ago, after the Tour, Jakob's lead was over 800 points; now it is a mere FIVE points!d BlueRoads has closed the gap significantly on this current run, closing the gap by 416 more points this week even with Jakob getting some more points from marquee pick Pogacar. Although the top 2 are in front of the rest of the field by almost 500 points, we've seen how quickly a gap can close, and there are still 2 GTs left and 2 monuments, so even though normally this would be the last major week of the season in October, there's a lot of racing to go. Londonpat edges out Wallenquist by a single point for the last podium spot, and less than 200 points splits 3rd-10th. SafeBet parlays 4th on points this week into a leap into the top 10, while team skidmark slides down to 11th.



This week - the Giro continues, the spring classics continue their backwards crawl, moving out of Liege to Brabantse Pijl to Gent-Wevelgem, while Paris-Tours takes place at its normal time of the season on the same day as G-W. Too bad we lost Amstel Gold, but it's still a great slate leading up to the crazy last few weeks of the season.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on October 15, 2020, 04:26
Update #25: We Have a New Leader



Hey folks - pardon the delay this week, I've been travelling and didn't get a chance until now. In any event, as the season tentatively moves on, we are reaching the endgame... with P-R cancelled and Covid on the rise everywhere in Europe, obviously the few remaining one-day races (Flanders and De Panne) as well as the end of the Giro, let alone the Vuelta, are in doubt, and so it's hard to know exactly what this game is going to look like in the end. But we do know how this last week has gone, so I'll just get to that.



This Week's Top Scorers




Rank   Team   Points this week
1   rote_laterne   437
2   AlyKaptan   418
3   Sneekes   409
4   greenedge   404
5   LukasCPH   400


A relatively quiet week compared to some of the others we've had, rote_laterne comes out on top with 437 points. Unsurprisingly, their team was one of 7 with Mads Pedersen, who got 220 for the Gent-Wevelgem win and therefore accounts for more than half the weekly points for anyone who has him. rote_laterne got some good support from other rare picks, with 70 for the stage win at the Giro for Caicedo (3 teams), 58 from Madouas (4 teams), 40 from Andrea Bagioli (25 teams) and 32 from Leknessund (7 teams). AlyKaptan slots into second with of course the 220 from Pedersen, and next highest scores from Kwiatkowski (46 points) and Bardet (45). Sneekes, uh, sneaks into third, clearing 400 without Pedersen but rather as one of the 19 profiting from Almeida's stint in pink (151 pointst this week), as well as 58 from Van Aert who keeps chugging along.



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   rote_laterne   (+18)
2   Mayomaniac   (+12)
3   Eyeballs Out   (+9)
3   Ferminal   (+9)
5   tom_jelte   (+8)
5   AlyKaptan   (+8)
5   Sneekes   (+8)


Folks, it's getting down to the end of the season - 400 points on the week will get you a double digit jump still, but just barely. rote_laterne doubles up, whereas the rest of the podium is new faces, Mayomaniac getting second as the only other team to jump double digits, and Eyeballs Out and Ferminal tying for third.



Green Jersey Competition



Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   279.7
2   ChrisDK   192
3   BlueRoads   178
4   Wallenquist   166
5   Nathanptz   151


It may be fairly safe to say that the top of this leaderboard is pretty set; of course, if near future events get cancelled it will be even more likely, but even so with four or five weeks left and basically a two week lead, Jakob is looking solid on top. Wallenquist is the only one of the top 5 to score this week, moving up with 18 points on the week.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (+1)   
BlueRoads
8454
2   (-1)   Jakob747   8164
3   (+1)   Wallenquist   8055
4   (+3)   bminchow   7903
5   (+1)   Object   7880
6   (-1)   Nathanptz   7821
7   (-4)   Londonpat   7814
8   (-)   Lortnoc   7771
9   (+1)   SafeBet   7715
10   (-1)   mineralJ   7658


It was bound to happen. BlueRoads pulled to within 5 points of longtime leader Jakob747 last week, and this week swings decisively into first place. Jakob actually got last place on the week, with their team picking up 17 points in total - it's a testament to the rest of their season that they manage to hold onto second. With Yates out of the Giro and Pogacar's season over, it is a very thin path back to first place. Wallenquist moves onto the podium, while despite a bit of jumping around, no one moves in or out of the top 10.



This week we've got the second week of the Giro, we've already had the Scheldeprijs, and fingers crossed, we will have the Tour of Flanders on Sunday.



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Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: skidmark on October 20, 2020, 06:50
Update #26: Sneekes ekes out a win



We've had our final monument of the season, and our second grand tour is winding its way towards a conclusion. I'll have to be a tad briefer than usual this week as I'm on the road, but I'll be back and settled for next week's update, so I promise I'll give these last few weeks the attention they deserve. This week saw another win under 500 points; I'm sure this week with the Giro GC it will be different.



This Week's Top Scorers



Rank   Team   Points this week
1   Sneekes   492
2   Yellow Knight   488
3   bminchow   481
4   escartin   472
5   Rebels   428


Sneekes grabs the top spot this week headlined by two riders who have shown up on various occasions for leading weekly teams this seaon - Van Aert added 170 and Almeida added 197, making this yet another week in which he's gotten more points than his total cost of 112. And, well, it looks like he's lined up for a significant amount more this week. Sneekes also got 72 points from McNulty and 34 from Meurisse, which made the difference as it was tight at the top. Yellow Knight only came in 4 points behind, and has shown up a few times this season in the top with an interesting combo of Sagan and Sam Bennett, who got points this week on top of those of Almeida, Narvaez and McNulty. bminchow has shown up a lot in these standings as well and has the same big 2 riders (and notably potentially for this upcoming week, also has Kelderman).



This Week's High Movers




Rank   Team   Up/down
1   escartin   (+20)
2   ray10   (+18)
3   Yellow Knight   (+12)
4   karaev   (+11)
5   Mayomaniac   (+10)
5   Shawnm4747   (+10)
5   Blues in the bottle   (+10)


A different crew on here, with escartin moving up 20 spots thanks to Guess Who (ie WvA) and Oh Yeah He Got Points This Week (Sagan with 110). ray10 was one of the two teams to get the full 280 points from MvdP, and Yellow Knight shows up on both rankings this week.



Green Jersey Competition




Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   279.7
2   ChrisDK   192
3   Wallenquist   184
4   bminchow   180
5   BlueRoads   178


Wallenquist gets 18 points on the week and bminchow gets 30 to create some more bunching around 2nd place, but Jakob747's lead here is still not really under threat, although if the last two weeks of the season are only the Vuelta and someone has rare riders that do well there, it could conceivably tighten.



Top 10 Overall



Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   
BlueRoads
8644
2   (+1)   Wallenquist   8457
3   (+1)   bminchow   8384
4   (-2)   Jakob747   8229
5   (-)   Object   8150
6   (-)   Nathanptz   8140
7   (+1)   Lortnoc   8091
8   (-1)   Londonpat   8033
9   (+3)   Nyssinator   7946
10   (+3)   EvansIsTheBest   7877


BlueRoads only got 190 points this week, whereas Wallenquist and bminchow were in the top 10 of the week, so a bit more is at play at the top of the list, although the top teams are separated by triple digits so it's not neck-in-neck per se. But a lot of points are to be had from the GCs at the 2 GTs still in play, so it will be interesting to see how the season ends. Usually in this game, there's the Vuelta, some pretty clear teams with chances for big points in the Worlds, but then a bit of a wind down with some one-day races, and after Lombardia there's the China race and Japan Cup, which have very few riders participating. Here, the last race of the season is the Vuelta, with big points and big names. Aside from the inherent uncertainty of any race in times of covid, this is shaping up to be pretty open right up until the sudden end.



This is our last real overlap week (presuming Sardinia goes ahead we will have one other small race overlapping the Vuelta), and although the crazy triumvirate of October 25th no longer includes Roubaix, there is still the last week of the Giro, the Vuelta starting on Tuesday, and - try to imagine hearing this sentence in 2015 and believing it would be true - the last one-day race of the year, the WorldTour level Three Days of De Panne.



spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/p0crkodmlronckk/CQ%202020%20Update%2026.xlsx?dl=0)
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on October 20, 2020, 08:56
The long slide starts here. All my big hitters are now injured or turned out to be rubbish.....

I wasn't joking. I went from just outside the top-ten in August down to 107th two months later.

Time to start thinking about next year's team. :P

I'm guessing there'll be a smaller budget next year skids? There's a handful of guys who have scored what could be considered a normal amount of points, but there's loads who are nowhere near what they'd get in a normal season.
Title: Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
Post by: Leadbelly on November 20, 2020, 22:29
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Update #29: bminchow wins the 2020 CQ Game!

This is it folks! The last update, the Vuelta is done, the game is over. It has been the weirdest year of any of our lives, and the cycling season was a strange one too. Definitely a comfort at times in its offer of escape to familiarity, and amazingly they managed to fit in almost all of the post-(first)lockdown races, save for the notable canclelations of Amstel Gold and Paris-Roubaix. The Vuelta went off amazingly well in terms of covid protection, giving some hope that even if there is some time in getting out an effective vaccine, racing next year could proceed in a way close to normal. So, what happened in the last week?

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank   Team   Points this week
1   HelgeBlendet   871
2   Sestriere   699
3   Koronin   692
4   Salvarani   691
5   CQPlayer7373   679

Although the season ended with GC points for a grand tour, scores were slightly more depressed than the average GT GC week. Part of that was because nobody picked the already-expensive Primoz Roglic, who nonetheless managed to score 3000 points from the shortened season! Pogacar was the only other rider over 2000; if Roglic hadn't crashed out of the Dauphine he might have been above 3300!

But Roglic isn't a team in this game, so that's enough talking about him, and one team in this game stood head and shoulders above the rest this week. HelgeBlendet ends the year with a bang, taking back-to-back weekly wins, and winning the week by over 170 points. HB was one of 5 teams who got 352 points from Hugh Carthy's big breakout, as well as one of 9 teams that benefitted from 112 points from George Bennett's continuing solid year. Gino Mader came good with 106 points as well, and HB's team got some points chipped in from Soler, Chaves, and Kanter. Sestriere finished behind in 2nd, having both Carthy and Mader over 100 points, and some good results contributed by Cort, Zimmerman, and Valgren as well. Koronin rounds out the podium one point ahead of Salvarani, with 241 from Enric Mas, and 150 points from the unique pick of the 40-year old Alejandro Valverde, who finally seems to be fading but still managed a GT top 10.

This Week's High Movers

Rank   Team   Up/down
1   CQPlayer7373   (+29)
2   Sestriere   (+18)
3   HelgeBlendet   (+17)
4   Riverside   (+16)
4   Falze   (+16)

This table is also a blowout this week, with CQPlayer7373 jumping a huge 29 spots on the very last week of the competition. Carthy, Bennett, and Soler are the big scorers for that team. Sestriere is twice a bridesmaid, and HelgeBlendet doubles up on the podium as well.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank   Team   Total
1   Jakob747   279.7
2   ChrisDK   227
3   bminchow   219
4   Wallenquist   186
5   BlueRoads   178

I mentioned last week that this contest was sealed up, with Jakob747 far enough ahead that nobody could mathematically catch up this week. And in fact, no spots in the top 5 changed around in the final week at all; bminchow got 9 points for tying for 11th on the week, but didn't move up any spots. Congratulations once again to Jakob747!

Top 10 Overall

Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
1   (-)   bminchow 10010
2   (-)   Wallenquist   9520
3   (+1)   Object   9173
4   (+2)   BlueRoads   9027
5   (-2)   Nyssinator   9000
6   (-1)   Lortnoc   8938
7   (+5)   Sneekes   8843
8   (-1)   EvansIsTheBest   8784
9   (+4)   Hugo Koblet   8714
10   (+7)   Northerner   8698

It looked pretty good for bminchow last week, and indeed their team pulled through, even picking up 208 points on Wallenquist this week. That is almost equal to the 207 points scored by their team's highest scorer on the week, David De La Cruz, owned by 7 teams. And that type of timely point-scoring is key to the win - good picks plus good luck is a good formula to win. And indeed, bminchow had a solid combo of rare picks that panned out - most especially the two must-haves at the very top of the charts in Wout Van Aert (11 teams, 1702 points at a cost of 898) and Joao Almeida (19 teams, 1114 points at a cost of 112). As a counterpoint to show that it's truly a team game with 33 riders, there were misses like bminchow's second-most expensive rider Giulio Ciccone (unique pick, got 352 points at a cost of 686). But those were few and far between, and more than made up for with solid picks that turned out well like Kelderman, Bouhanni, Eekhoff, Simmons, Yates, Kwiatkowski, etc etc. Congratulations to bminchow for joining the winners' roll! As a nice bonus, their team juuuust made it over the round number milestone of 10,000 points, the only team to do so.

Wallenquist had a great year as well, and is rewarded with a solid second place. Their team included Van Aert and Almeida as well (I said they were necessary, didn't I?), and garnered solid contributions from riders like SK Andersen, Lennard Kamna, and Andrea Bagioli. Object overtakes Nyssinator for the last spot on the podium on the final week, thanks to riders like Sepp Kuss and Richie Porte (and of course Almeida, although no WVA).

The lower parts of the top 10 were hotly contested, with every spot moving around on the last week. It was a dogfight in the lower part of the top 10, with 114 points separating 8th from 14th place in the end. As it shakes out, Sneekes, Hugo Koblet, and Northerner enter the top 10 on the final week, while Nathanptz, Londonpat (the two of them tie for 11th!) and team skidmark (sob sob) fall out.

Thanks for playing once again in this wild year, everyone! Hope to see you back for 2021, wishing you the best until then.

spreadsheet at dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yadedeu725nroj8/CQ%202020%20Update%2029.xlsx?dl=0)

ps. I'll continue the discussion of next year's rules and lay out a post with the parameters on this thread in the upcoming days. The new game thread will be up in about a month.