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Title: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on December 31, 2019, 01:30
Who will win the Tour de France and the Giro in 2022?  If you know, and they have each had a less illustrious career thus far than Dylan Sutherland (who has 200 CQ points thus far in his career), you'll do OK in this.  Bernal and Carapaz have done the equivalent this year, but did you reckon them as prospects 3 years ago?

The Emerging Riders game tests your powers of prediction of the brightest talents, or most misleading early deceivers, in the sport, over a three year period.

Your Team is to consist of 18 male riders, each of whom has a maximum of 199 CQ points through their career, (so long as that total is not kept low because of results removed under doping sanctions)

There is a long list on Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/dxpxm605ft9i3m2/2020-22%20Emerging%20eligibility%20list.xlsx?dl=0) of people who have appeared in CQ listings in the last three years but without reaching 200 points: you may of course want to select riders who have never appeared.   That file also has a more manageable list of about 180 names: Riders who have been selected for either the main annual CQ game or the Youth CQ game, but are eligible for this one.  Consider it a longish-shortlist that you might, or might not, choose to use.


Submit your team by PM to me, before the beginning of the Tour Down Under on January 21.   As usual, names in CQ format please, with nothing else on the line. If the rider has no CQ page, then hope that SURNAME Forename is what CQ will go with (and if not I'll hopefully be able to track him down eventually).

My team has been sent to Joelsim, the manager of the first team submitted. I reserve the right to adjust it in the case of a rider emerging Gaviria-like before the deadline (although with the earlier deadline that should be less likely).

The score is CQ points gained over the next three years (the less-than-200 points before the game don't count) , the end of 2022 update being the end. I might need to be alerted to points from one year that are deleted the next. I aim to give updates monthly, but bear with me, especially when the GT games are on.

Entries The final list

AlyKaptan
AmisVelo
Archieboy
Armchair_Cyclist
Blues_in_the_Bottle
Comodoro
Cordi
Del_1962
Fivezzz
hfgon1
Joelsim
JonEzeitza
Josedin
Karaev
Kazistuta
Koronin
Laarsland
Leadbelly
LosBrolin
Ludwigzgz
LukasCPH
Madrazo
MuddyWaters
Nicosix
Northerner
Otoxiep87
Ray10
RoteLaterne
SafeBet
Scrooll07
Skidmark
Squire
Vladimir

Enjoy, and see whether potential and hype are turned into results.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 03, 2020, 22:10
I have finally got the Dropbox spreadsheet  up, with the names of about 3 and a half thousand riders who have scored CQ points at least once in the last three years, but have not yet reached the 200 lifetime points that would disqualify them.  I have added to the list any eligible riders at WT and PT level.  You may, of course, choose others who haven't scored in the last three years and are currently below this level.


The Dropbox file also contains a list of riders who you might have been thinking of, but who have gained their disqualifying 200th point during 2019.


The list can be found here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/dxpxm605ft9i3m2/2020-22%20Emerging%20eligibility%20list.xlsx?dl=0).
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on January 05, 2020, 22:35
For the first time I didn't know how to fill the last 3 spots.  :S Can't wait for my 18 riders to emerge.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 13, 2020, 22:38
The very long list on Dropbox now has the much shorter list (those chosen in the other 2 games this year but eligible for this). 

Dropbox does not seem to work as handily as it did, could someone check whether the link in the OP leads to the Dropbox file that includes the 'Blue List' as a third column, and let me know.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Leadbelly on January 14, 2020, 09:36
Dropbox does not seem to work as handily as it did, could someone check whether the link in the OP leads to the Dropbox file that includes the 'Blue List' as a third column, and let me know.

Yes, it does.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 14, 2020, 10:37
A week from now (the datestamp on this post) it will be a just over 10 1/2 hours since the start of the Tour Down Under.


That means that you have 6 days, 13  and a bit hours to get your teams in.  The dropbox linked in the OP now includes the riders who are eligible for this and have been thought worthy of a place in at least one manager's opinion of a place in the Main CQ game, or the Youth game.  Not always a great recommendation, it should be said, and those games have other criteria for selection, but it might give you some ideas.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 19, 2020, 23:31
You have about 25 hours from the datestamp of this post to get your team in.

25 teams so far, using 129 different riders, 62 of them unique picks.  One rider is on 20 teams, and there are 11 on more than half the teams: 2 managers have selected all 11 of them, and one has none of them.

Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 20, 2020, 15:58
Team lukascph is in! :)

Might as well call it Team lUKascph: :D
*it 4
*uk 4
*dk 2
*be 1
*ch 1
*de 1
*fi 1
*fr 1
*nl 1
*no 1
*us 1


#worldtour 11 (+1 mid-season)
#proconti 4
#conti 2 (1 going #worldtour mid-season)
#domestic 1

Birth year Riders
1991 1
1992 1
1993 1
1994 1
1996 3
1997 3
1998 3
1999 3
2000 1
2001 1

Career points Riders
190+ 3
170-189 3
140-169 8
110-139 1
80-109 2
0 1
All or nothing here: Either you're so close to the 199-point cut-off that you're almost guaranteed to go over this year, or you're still so far away that you'll probably still be eligible a year from now.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Cordi on January 20, 2020, 20:28
My team...

15 europeans, 3 not (all americans)

11 already in WT, 7 not (no one in ProConti tho)

6 older, 6 born in 1999, 6 younger (range of age is just 5 years)


199-150: 5
149-100: 4
99-50: 1
49-0: 8


Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on January 20, 2020, 21:44
Most of mine are Belgians. For whatever reason.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on January 20, 2020, 21:55
Not actually true, just done the maths.

 *be 4
 *co 3
 *nl 3
 *uk 1
 *it 2
 *ch 1
 *de 1
 *si 1
 *usa 2

Oldest rider 23, none of this 1991 nonsense like IUKas.

Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 21, 2020, 09:14
Your three year journey starts here.

32 teams: a few regulars like DJW, Hakkie, Flo and Fauniera are missing, but nice to welcome some new faces.

136 different riders selected, 62 of them only once.

Here are those teams, asterisks, as ever, indicating unique picks.

Alykaptan
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BAIS Mattia   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   DE DECKER Alfdan   *
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   FOUCHE James   
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   SAVINI Daniel   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VERMAERKE Kevin   
   VIVIANI Attilio   
   WEEMAES Sasha   

Amis Velo
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   CULLAIGH Gabriel   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   HAILEMICHAEL Mulu Kinfe   
   HAILU Biniam Girmay   
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   OLDANI Stefano   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Archieboy
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   BRUNEL Alexys   *
   DEBEAUMARCHE Nicolas   *
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   GARRISON Michael   
   INKELAAR Kevin   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   TRACZ Szymon   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VERSCHAEVE Viktor   *

Armchair Cyclist
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GAROSIO Andrea   *
   INKELAAR Kevin   
   JOHANSEN Julius   
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   OLDANI Stefano   
   PEAK Barnabas   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RIES Michel   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANHOUCKE Harm   *
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Blues in the Bottle
   ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   CEPEDA HERNANDEZ Jefferson Alveiro   *
   CULLAIGH Gabriel   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   OLDANI Stefano   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VERMAERKE Kevin   
   VIVIANI Attilio   
   WILLIAMS Stephen   
   WRIGHT Fred   

Comodoro
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   MÄRKL Niklas   *
   PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   QUICK Blake   
   QUINN Sean   *
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VERMAERKE Kevin   
   ZUKOWSKY Nickolas   

Cordi
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   BRENNER Marco   
   DONOVAN Mark   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   PICCOLO Andrea   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   TIBERI Antonio   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   

Del1962
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BENNETT Sean   
   DONOVAN Mark   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   HOLMES Matthew   
   HONORE Mikkel Frølich   
   INKELAAR Kevin   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RIES Michel   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Fivezzz
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BARTHE Cyril   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   BOUCHARD Geoffrey   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   HONORE Mikkel Frølich   
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VERMAERKE Kevin   
   VIVIANI Attilio   
   WEEMAES Sasha   

hfgon1
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   BRENNER Marco   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   GARRISON Michael   
   HAILU Biniam Girmay   
   HOLMES Matthew   
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   RIVERA VARGAS Brandon Smith   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   WRIGHT Fred   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   
   ZUKOWSKY Nickolas   

Joelsim
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BENNETT Sean   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   JERMAN Ziga   
   MEEUS Jordi   *
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   NIEUWENHUIS Joris   
   OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   

Jon Ezeitza
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   HONORE Mikkel Frølich   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   NIEUWENHUIS Joris   
   OLDANI Stefano   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RIES Michel   
   RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   SOBRERO Matteo   *
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Josedin
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago   
   FINE Eddy   *
   GAMPER Patrick   *
   GOOSSENS Kobe   
   INKELAAR Kevin   
   NIV Guy   *
   PEAK Barnabas   
   QUARTERMAN Charlie   
   RENARD Alexis   
   RIVERA VARGAS Brandon Smith   
   RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VIVIANI Attilio   

Karaev
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BAIS Mattia   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GALL Felix   *
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
   SAVINI Daniel   
   THIJSSEN Gerben   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   WALLS Matthew   *
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Kazistuta
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   CULLAIGH Gabriel   
   DONOVAN Mark   
   EVANS Alexander   
   GARRISON Michael   
   HAILU Biniam Girmay   
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   PEAK Barnabas   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   REYNDERS Jens   *
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VIVIANI Attilio   

Koronin
   ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BALLESTEROS CANOVAS Miguel Angel   *
   BEVILACQUA Mattia   *
   CULLAIGH Gabriel   
   ELOSEGUI MOMEÑE Iñigo   
   GARRISON Ian   
   GUGLIELMI Simon   *
   HOLLMANN Juri   
   JACOBS Johan   *
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   LOPEZ FUENTES Diego   *
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   PEÑALVER ANIORTE Manuel   
   QUARTERMAN Charlie   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VILLALOBOS HERNANDEZ Luis Ricardo   

Laarsland
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   CUADRADO RUIZ DE GAUNA Unai   *
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARCIA SOSA Jhojan Orlando   
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RIES Michel   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   THIJSSEN Gerben   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Leadbelly
   ADAMIETZ Johannes   *
   ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw   
   ÄRM Rait   *
   CAÑAVERAL VARGAS Jonathan   *
   DINA Marton   *
   DRIZNERS Jarrad   *
   ENGELHARDT Felix   *
   FRIGO Marco   *
   GUILLONNET Adrien   *
   HEIDEMANN Miguel   *
   KIPKEMBOI Salim   *
   KOOISTRA Marten   *
   LEEMREIZE Gijs   *
   NONNEZ Théo   *
   OTRUBA Jakub   *
   QUICK Blake   
   TRACZ Szymon   
   WOUTERS Enzo   *

Los Brolin
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   HINDSGAUL MADSEN Jacob   *
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   PLOWRIGHT Jensen   *
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Ludwigzgz
   ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   CASTRILLO ZAPATER Jaime   *
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   DONOVAN Mark   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   HAILEMICHAEL Mulu Kinfe   
   INKELAAR Kevin   
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VILLALOBOS HERNANDEZ Luis Ricardo   

Lukas CPH
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BAIS Mattia   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   BONIFAZIO Leonardo   *
   BOUCHARD Geoffrey   
   CULLAIGH Gabriel   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   HOLMES Matthew   
   HONORE Mikkel Frølich   
   JOHANSEN Julius   
   PETERS Alex   *
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   SLEEN Torjus   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VIVIANI Attilio   

Madrazo
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARCIA SOSA Jhojan Orlando   
   GARRISON Ian   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VIVIANI Attilio   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Muddy Waters
   ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   COVI Alessandro   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   ELOSEGUI MOMEÑE Iñigo   
   ISERBYT Eli   *
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   NIEUWENHUIS Joris   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VILLALOBOS HERNANDEZ Luis Ricardo   
   VIVIANI Attilio   

Nicosix
   ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   DE PLUS Jasper   *
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   EVANS Alexander   
   FOUCHE James   
   GARCIA SOSA Jhojan Orlando   
   GOOSSENS Kobe   
   HAILU Biniam Girmay   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   

Otoxiep87
   ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago   
   COVI Alessandro   
   DALLA VALLE Nicholas   *
   GAMPER Florian   *
   HOLLMANN Juri   
   MURIAS Jakub   *
   PEÑALVER ANIORTE Manuel   
   QUARTERMAN Charlie   
   RENARD Alexis   
   RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos   
   SALMON Martin   *
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   
   VERMEERSCH Florian   
   WIRTGEN Luc   *

Ray10
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   COVI Alessandro   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   INKELAAR Kevin   
   JERMAN Ziga   
   JOHANSEN Julius   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   NEVENS Tibo   *
   PRODHOMME Nicolas   *
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   WAERENSKJOLD Søren   *
   WEEMAES Sasha   

Rote Laterne
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BAIS Mattia   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   PICCOLO Andrea   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   TIBERI Antonio   
   VAN DEN BERG Marijn   *
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VERGAERDE Otto   *
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

SafeBet
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   HAILU Biniam Girmay   
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   STRONG Corbin   *
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VERMAERKE Kevin   

Scrool07
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BAIS Mattia   
   BARTHE Cyril   
   GARRISON Ian   
   GIBSON Matthew   *
   HONORE Mikkel Frølich   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   NIEUWENHUIS Joris   
   OLDANI Stefano   
   OLIVEIRA Rui Filipe Alves   *
   PAASSCHENS Mathijs   *
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SAVINI Daniel   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Skidmark
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   GARRISON Ian   
   HAILU Biniam Girmay   
   JOHANSEN Julius   
   MOLENAAR Alex   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VIVIANI Attilio   
   WILLIAMS Stephen   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   

Squire
   ALEOTTI Giovanni   
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   BOUCHARD Geoffrey   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto   
   RUTSCH Jonas   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   THIJSSEN Gerben   
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   VERMEERSCH Florian   
   VIVIANI Attilio   
   WEEMAES Sasha   

Vladimir
   ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
   ARENSMAN Thymen   
   BAGIOLI Andrea   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   
   CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
   COVI Alessandro   
   EEKHOFF Nils   
   FEDOROV Yevgeniy   *
   HÄNNINEN Jaakko   
   KONYCHEV Alexander   
   KULIKOVSKIY Aleksandr   *
   OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro   
   SIMMONS Quinn   
   SLEEN Torjus   
   VAN MOER Brent   
   VAN POUCKE Aaron   *
   VAN WILDER Ilan   
   ZIMMERMANN Georg   
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 21, 2020, 10:22
Riders by popularity
26 teams (out of 32): BAGIOLI Andrea, SIMMONS Quinn
25: ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo, VAN WILDER Ilan
23: EEKHOFF Nils
21: PIDCOCK Thomas
20: RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto
19: BISSEGGER Stefan, VANSEVENANT Mauri
17: KONYCHEV Alexander
16: RUTSCH Jonas
15: VAN MOER Brent
13: ARENSMAN Thymen, ZIMMERMANN Georg
12: GARRISON Ian
11: CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander
10: ALEOTTI Giovanni, VIVIANI Attilio

That bunch of 18 make up the Collective Wisdom team.  Viviani was on only 2 or 3 teams before he won the first stage of Tropicale Amissa Bongo about 11 hours before the deadline, then featured on most of the late submissions and was swapped in by three managers.  Gaviria's sudden emergence during San Luis in 2015 made a big difference in that edition of the game, but I am not convinced that beating Lorrenzo Manzin once is equivalent as a harbinger to beating Cavendish twice back then.

The non-CW riders are:

9: HÄNNINEN Jaakko, LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro, MOLENAAR Alex

7: RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos

6: HAILU Biniam Girmay, INKELAAR Kevin

5: ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego, BAIS Mattia, CULLAIGH Gabriel, HONORE Mikkel Frølich, JORGENSON Matteo, OLDANI Stefano, VERMAERKE Kevin

4: COVI Alessandro, DONOVAN Mark, JOHANSEN Julius, NIEUWENHUIS Joris, OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro, RIES Michel, TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso, WEEMAES Sasha

3: ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw, BOUCHARD Geoffrey, GARCIA SOSA Jhojan Orlando, GARRISON Michael, HOLMES Matthew, PEAK Barnabas, QUARTERMAN Charlie, SAVINI Daniel, THIJSSEN Gerben, VILLALOBOS HERNANDEZ Luis Ricardo

2: BARTHE Cyril, BENNETT Sean, BRENNER Marco, BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago, ELOSEGUI MOMEÑE Iñigo, EVANS Alexander, FOUCHE James, GOOSSENS Kobe, HAILEMICHAEL Mulu Kinfe, HOLLMANN Juri, JERMAN Ziga, PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David, PEÑALVER ANIORTE Manuel, PICCOLO Andrea, PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan, QUICK Blake, RENARD Alexis, RIVERA VARGAS Brandon Smith, SLEEN Torjus, TIBERI Antonio, TRACZ Szymon, VERMEERSCH Florian, WILLIAMS Stephen, WRIGHT Fred, ZUKOWSKY Nickolas


Despite Alex Peters being a very under-performing member of the Collective Wisdom team in the 2016-18 game, and scoring a grand total of zero across three years in the following edition, Lukas still has confidence in him.

I had expected to see far more picks for Marco Brenner, with people assuming that he would do enough in years 2 and 3 to make up for what might be an insignificant score in year 1.  Did people not realise how good a pick Evenepoel was in the 2017-19 game, despite only scoring in year 3, (or Bernal in 2015-17, when he was in the best possible team) or is the hype considered overblown?
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 21, 2020, 10:24
Leadbelly
   ADAMIETZ Johannes   *
   ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw   
   ÄRM Rait   *
   CAÑAVERAL VARGAS Jonathan   *
   DINA Marton   *
   DRIZNERS Jarrad   *
   ENGELHARDT Felix   *
   FRIGO Marco   *
   GUILLONNET Adrien   *
   HEIDEMANN Miguel   *
   KIPKEMBOI Salim   *
   KOOISTRA Marten   *
   LEEMREIZE Gijs   *
   NONNEZ Théo   *
   OTRUBA Jakub   *
   QUICK Blake   
   TRACZ Szymon   
   WOUTERS Enzo   *
Only three non-unique picks! That's a bit impressive. :cool
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 21, 2020, 10:32
The most popular of those three is only on 3 teams.  22 popularity points (as I will be posting shortly) out of 18 riders must be a record.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 21, 2020, 10:34
Teams by Popularity of picks

1   Madrazo   308
2   LosBrolin   297
3   Northerner   295
4   Skidmark   282
5   Laarsland   277
6   Cordi   274
7   AmisVelo   271
8   Joelsim   267
8   Squire   267
10   Del_1962   249
11   Archieboy   248
11   Fivezzz   248
13   Comodoro   245
13   MuddyWaters   245
15   SafeBet   244
16   JonEzeitza   239
17   Ludwigzgz   236
18   Karaev   235
18   Vladimir   235
20   RoteLaterne   234
21   Armchair_Cyclist   231
22   Nicosix   226
23   Kazistuta   222
24   Blues_in_the_Bottle   216
25   AlyKaptan   212
26   Ray10   208
27   LukasCPH   204
28   hfgon1   193
29   Scrooll07   169
30   Josedin   155
31   Koronin   125
32   Otoxiep87   102
33   Leadbelly   22
   CollectiveWisdom   321

Teams by points prior to the game
which might amount to "How likely is it that some of the riders might be selected again in the 2021-23 version?"

1   Scrooll07   2680
2   LukasCPH   2675
3   JonEzeitza   2336
4   Joelsim   2327
5   Del_1962   2234
6   Fivezzz   2219
7   Skidmark   2162
8   RoteLaterne   2097
9   LosBrolin   2026
10   Armchair_Cyclist   2016
11   Karaev   2002
12   AmisVelo   1979
13   Laarsland   1971
14   Madrazo   1963
15   Northerner   1951
16   AlyKaptan   1948
17   Squire   1943
18   Comodoro   1880
19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1824
20   Ray10   1818
21   MuddyWaters   1766
22   Vladimir   1637
23   Archieboy   1598
24   hfgon1   1591
25   Cordi   1562
26   Ludwigzgz   1546
27   Nicosix   1537
28   Kazistuta   1486
29   SafeBet   1480
30   Leadbelly   1433
31   Josedin   1329
32   Koronin   1165
33   Otoxiep87   347
   CollectiveWisdom   2051

I worry that Otoxiep might have misread the rules...


And for any other comparisons, or an insight into my methodology (and therefore my mind), here is the spreadsheet at Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3hjqbk75za453xd/Emerging%20CQ%202020%20to%202022.xlsx?dl=0).
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 21, 2020, 11:16
Teams by points prior to the game
which might amount to "How likely is it that some of the riders might be selected again in the 2021-23 version?"

1   Scrooll07   2680
2   LukasCPH   2675
3   JonEzeitza   2336
4   Joelsim   2327
5   Del_1962   2234
6   Fivezzz   2219
7   Skidmark   2162
8   RoteLaterne   2097
9   LosBrolin   2026
10   Armchair_Cyclist   2016
11   Karaev   2002
12   AmisVelo   1979
13   Laarsland   1971
14   Madrazo   1963
15   Northerner   1951
16   AlyKaptan   1948
17   Squire   1943
18   Comodoro   1880
19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1824
20   Ray10   1818
21   MuddyWaters   1766
22   Vladimir   1637
23   Archieboy   1598
24   hfgon1   1591
25   Cordi   1562
26   Ludwigzgz   1546
27   Nicosix   1537
28   Kazistuta   1486
29   SafeBet   1480
30   Leadbelly   1433
31   Josedin   1329
32   Koronin   1165
33   Otoxiep87   347
   CollectiveWisdom   2051
Podium! :win :woohoo
This game can now be classified as a success, come what may. :D
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on January 21, 2020, 12:18
Podium! :win :woohoo
This game can now be classified as a success, come what may. :D

2nd is the first loser Lukas.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on January 21, 2020, 12:19
Only three non-unique picks! That's a bit impressive. :cool

We could call him Contrarybelly from now on.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on January 21, 2020, 13:26
Despite Alex Peters being a very under-performing member of the Collective Wisdom team in the 2016-18 game, and scoring a grand total of zero across three years in the following edition, Lukas still has confidence in him.


Ha!
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 21, 2020, 15:34
Despite Alex Peters being a very under-performing member of the Collective Wisdom team in the 2016-18 game, and scoring a grand total of zero across three years in the following edition, Lukas still has confidence in him.
Alex was out of the sport for some years, now back on a Conti team with a good calendar. He could score big (as in, 200-300 points) this year, get a pro deal (not with one of the big WT teams, but on the second or third rung of the ladder) for 2021, and continue scoring for years 2 & 3.
Or he could do nothing at all and retire, again, by August.
It's a gamble. :dizzy

I had expected to see far more picks for Marco Brenner, with people assuming that he would do enough in years 2 and 3 to make up for what might be an insignificant score in year 1.  Did people not realise how good a pick Evenepoel was in the 2017-19 game, despite only scoring in year 3, (or Bernal in 2015-17, when he was in the best possible team) or is the hype considered overblown?
I see picking juniors as being against the spirit of the game.
Picking promising first-year U23s straight out of the junior ranks? Absolutely - see Quinn Simmons.
Picking guys who can't score yet because they're still racing against 17-year-olds? No, thanks.

Yes, in hindsight, picking Evenepoel for 17-19 would have been a good idea. But where's the fun in that?
Also, I firmly believe that >95% of riders only become 'good' (as in, scoring lots of points consistently) after a couple of years in the U23 ranks, and normally need 1-2 years after getting a pro contract as well. People like Evenepoel or Bernal are exceptions that prove this rule.

And picking riders just based on junior results is too uncertain: Marco Brenner could be the next Evenepoel or Pogačar ... but he could also be the next André Steensen. ;)

Plus, every single point Alex Peters scores this year is a point that Marco Brenner etc. couldn't have scored. :P

2nd is the first loser Lukas.
Should I have swapped the junior world champion with just about anyone, only to win a start-of-game ranking I didn't even realise I could win? Nah. :shh
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Cordi on January 21, 2020, 16:12


Yes, in hindsight, picking Evenepoel for 17-19 would have been a good idea. But where's the fun in that?


Well, if you only knew by 2016 that this defender of Anderlecht was going to be dropped, then retire from football, start with cycling and become the reincarnation of Merckx...
But you know, that would be very easy. Where's the fun in it?  :D
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Leadbelly on January 21, 2020, 18:10
Only three non-unique picks! That's a bit impressive. :cool

It will only be (slightly) impressive if I don't finish bottom. No Trudgin this year though.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 21, 2020, 18:27
It will only be (slightly) impressive if I don't finish bottom. No Trudgin this year though.
Fair point. :P

Still, of your unique picks, I had Ärm, Cañaveral, Drizners, Kooistra, and Wouters on my shortlist.
Granted, a 'shortlist' of ~200 names. :D
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 21, 2020, 19:16
Inspired by a post in the corresponding thread on CN, I have added a Team Similarity tab, and discovered that the highest degree of similarity of riders is 13.

A number of combinations of the top 5 teams in the rider popularity table combine in that way:
Laarsland and Los Brolin,
Laarsland and Madrazo,
Laarsland and Northerner,
Los Brolin and Madrazo,
Los Brolin and Skidmark,
Madrazo and Northerner,
Madrazo and Skidmark

but strangely Fivezzz and Squire also match 13.


Madrazo has 17 of the Collective Wisdom team, missing only Jonas Rutsch.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 21, 2020, 19:47
Madrazo has 17 of the Collective Wisdom team, missing only Jonas Rutsch.
I'll be the first to congratulate Madrazo on his winning in three years' time! :lol
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 21, 2020, 20:13
I'll be the first to congratulate Madrazo on his winning in three years' time! :lol

Not necessarily: the Collective Wisdom team came top in the first edition of this (2014-16), but since then has come 2nd, 6th, and 9th in the most recently finished iteration.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 21, 2020, 20:18
Not necessarily: the Collective Wisdom team came top in the first edition of this (2014-16), but since then has come 2nd, 6th, and 9th in the most recently finished iteration.
Does that mean that our picks, collectively, have become worse as time went on? :D
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 21, 2020, 20:28
Does that mean that our picks, collectively, have become worse as time went on? :D

No, because I was looking at the wrong column in my history of the game sheet.  Those were the performances of the Collective Ignorance teams (riders chosen by no one at all, not even Leadbelly), so we have done better in not leaving out good scorers. 

The Collective Wisdom positions have been 13th, 5th, 5th and 7th (so becoming consistently reasonably good but nothing special after a very mediocre start).
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Cordi on January 23, 2020, 10:00
My team...

- collective wisdom -

26 -> Andrea Bagioli, Quinn Simmons.
25 -> Camilo Ardila, Ilan van Wilder.
23 -> Nils Eekhoff.
21 -> Thomas Pidcock.
20 -> Einer Rubio.
19 -> Stefan Bissegger, Mauri Vansevenant.
16 -> Jonas Rutsch.
15 -> Brent van Moer.
13 -> Thymen Arensman.

2/3 of the team is collective wisdom. Not much to say here, these are the riders that everybody knows.
Eekhoff, Rubio, Rutsch, Van Moer (98), Bagioli, Ardila (99), Van Wilder (00) and Simmons (01) are WT neos. Bissegger (98), Vansevenant and Arensman (99) will arrive midseason. Only Pidcock (99) has no pro contract, but when he wants, he'll go WT.


- differential picks -

9 -> Juanpe Lopez.
7 -> Carlos Rodriguez.
4 -> Mark Donovan.

Other three WT neos. Juanpe (97) and Carlos (01) are my spanish fee. One is the oldest in the team, the only one who is no longer u23. The other is one of the youngest, coming straight from junior to WT. Donovan (99) has been poorly chosen, due to his bad last season. But I mantain my faith in him, as I did also with Arensman.

And now, I get crazy:

2 -> Marco Brenner, Andrea Piccolo, Antonio Tiberi.

Piccolo and Tiberi (01) are the two italians supertalents arriving to u23 level. Both excell in the time trials and are also great climbers. Both will pass with Colpack. And both have already pro contracts signed for 2021: Piccolo with Astana, Tiberi with Trek.

Brenner (02) is a tricky pick. He's still a junior, so he'll have just two years to earn points. But so far, he's been so promising I had to choose him. I believe he can be in the best possible team in 3 years, but there are also a lot of risks. In theory, next year he'll jump to WT with Bora.


Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 26, 2020, 08:51
Today, I woke up to the news that Matthew Holmes won on Willunga Hill! :o

I thought he'd be a decent pick and was confident he would score points. I didn't expect he'd start in January by winning a stage of a WT race! :cool :D
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Joelsim on January 26, 2020, 10:11
Today, I woke up to the news that Matthew Holmes won on Willunga Hill! :o

I thought he'd be a decent pick and was confident he would score points. I didn't expect he'd start in January by winning a stage of a WT race! :cool :D

Maybe Alex Peters next time!
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 26, 2020, 12:07
Maybe Alex Peters next time!
Or Leonardo Bonifazio. Hope springs eternal. :shh
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 04, 2020, 09:02
Year 1, Month 1 Up to 2nd February

The first update is probably of little significance to the final scores, but offers an early slice of pride, and gives me a few mouth in heart moments as I see whether the spreadsheet does what it should.

Top ten scorers who were selected:
HOLMES Matthew   65 points, mainlyfor finally dethroning Porte on Wilunga Hill, for Del1962, hfgon1 and Lukas CPH
HAILU Biniam Girmay   45 (two stage wins and a third in Tropicale Amissa Bongo) for 6 teams
VIVIANI Attilio   34 (stage and some other points in Amissa Bongo)   10
OLDANI Stefano   32 (5th in Trofeo Playa de Palma)   5
BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago   23 (19th on GC in TDU); Josedin, Otoxiep87
RIVERA VARGAS Brandon Smith   20 (4th in Colombian TT nat's); hfgon1, Josedin
VANHOUCKE Harm   18 pts   1 teams
DINA Marton   16   1
DRIZNERS Jarrad   16   1
PEÑALVER ANIORTE Manuel   16   2

but TESFATSION Natnael Ocbit and LEVASSEUR Jordan both scored over 100 this month, and FLOREZ LOPEZ Miguel Eduardo, MORIN Emmanuel, MULUBRHAN Henok and PAREDES AVELLANEDA Cesar Nicolas got 50 or more.  They might be serious misses, or they might never reach these heights again, but history tells us that most of us will have some members of our teams who will score fewer points in the three years than these guys have this month.

Standings
Everyone is off the mark (mainly through popular picks Viviani, Rutsch and Cepeda), and our first leader is a newcomer to these games.

1   hfgon1   150 ( mainly from Holmes, Hailu and Rivera)
2   LukasCPH   138 (Holmes and Viviani)
3   Josedin   99 (Viviani, Buitrago, Vivera)
3   Skidmark   99  (Hailu, Viviani)
5   Kazistuta   94   (Hailu, Viviani)
6   AmisVelo   92 (Hailu, Oldani)
7   Del_1962   85
8   Blues_in_the_Bottle   81
9   SafeBet   71
10   Armchair_Cyclist   65
11   MuddyWaters   64
11   Squire   64
13   Scrooll07   63
14   JonEzeitza   62
15   Fivezzz   59
16   Nicosix   55
17   AlyKaptan   54
18   Koronin   47
19   Madrazo   44
19   Otoxiep87   44
21   Northerner   40
22   Leadbelly   34
23   LosBrolin   32
24   Comodoro   31
25   Cordi   29
26   RoteLaterne   24
27   Laarsland   21
28   Archieboy   19
28   Joelsim   19
28   Ray10   19
31   Karaev   14
32   Ludwigzgz   11
33   Vladimir   10
   CollectiveWisdom   54
   CollectiveIgnorance*   839

*  For those new to the updates, or who never quite got their heads around it: the Collective Ignorance team is the 18 highest scoring riders that none of us picked.  Unlike the other teams, this team changes its make-up as the game progresses, and so is always exceptionally good early on in the game.  It drops back into the same range of scores as most of us by around the middle of year two, but it serves to draw our attention, and our embarrassment, to those we omitted.

Updates should be roughly monthly, but don't be surprised if there are longer gaps when a GT game is in progress. 

Don't gloat or despair on the basis of this, this is no more than looking for a position at the beginning of a long ride.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on February 04, 2020, 19:33
Don't gloat or despair on the basis of this, this is no more than looking for a position at the beginning of a long ride.
Ha, fat chance. Compared to this month's haul in the 18-20 and 19-21 games, this is an excellent start for me!
:D
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2020, 21:13
Year 1, month 2 3rd February to 1st March
 Top scorers (of those we have picked)
FEDOROV Yevgeniy   195 (stage win and 2nd on GC in Langkawi, stage in Rwanda)   for Vladimir
HAILU Biniam Girmay   129 (2nd in Laigueglia, stage podiums in Rwanda) for 6 teams
BRUNEL Alexys   107 (stage win and 3rd overall in Etoile de Besseges) for Archieboy
CEPEDA HERNANDEZ Jefferson Alveiro   59 (6th in Vuelta a Murcia) for Blues in the Bottle
HAILEMICHAEL Mulu Kinfe   55 (stage win and 9th on GC in Rwanda) for Amis Velo and Ludwigzgz
BAGIOLI Andrea   45   26
HONORE Mikkel Frølich   40   5
BENNETT Sean   39   2
VANHOUCKE Harm   38   1
WIRTGEN Luc   26   1
HEIDEMANN Miguel   25   1

And the unchosen Tesfatsion is again the best scorer of the month, and would already justify his place in most final teams, and Max Stedman will be considered to have been a bit of a miss too.

This month
1   Vladimir   314 (Fedorov and Bagioli)
2   AmisVelo   278 (Hailu, Hailemichael and Bagioli)
3   SafeBet   244 (Hailu and Bagioli)
4   Skidmark   240
5   Nicosix   203
5   Archieboy   203
7   hfgon1   198
8   Kazistuta   173
9   LukasCPH   158
9   JonEzeitza   158
11   Fivezzz   154
12   Scrooll07   153
13   Blues_in_the_Bottle   151
14   Del_1962   145
15   Ludwigzgz   139
16   Armchair_Cyclist   137
16   Joelsim   137
18   LosBrolin   126
19   Laarsland   116
20   RoteLaterne   113
21   Squire   111
22   Madrazo   109
22   Comodoro   109
22   Karaev   109
25   Northerner   106
26   AlyKaptan   94
27   MuddyWaters   92
28   Cordi   91
29   Josedin   90
30   Koronin   89
31   Otoxiep87   61
32   Leadbelly   46
33   Ray10   28
   CollectiveWisdom   121
   CollectiveIgnorance   1074

Standings
I am sure there won't be a bigger change of position than Vladimir going from last to 4th this month.  Having just won the 2017-19 edition, Amis Velo takes the lead here, and whatever else happens between now and the end of 2022, Nicosix will be able to say that he too was among those who was at some stage in the top ten.

1   AmisVelo   370
2   hfgon1   348
3   Skidmark   339
4   Vladimir   324
5   SafeBet   315
6   LukasCPH   296
7   Kazistuta   267
8   Nicosix   258
9   Blues_in_the_Bottle   232
10   Del_1962   230
11   Archieboy   222
12   JonEzeitza   220
13   Scrooll07   216
14   Fivezzz   213
15   Armchair_Cyclist   202
16   Josedin   189
17   Squire   175
18   LosBrolin   158
19   Joelsim   156
19   MuddyWaters   156
21   Madrazo   153
22   Ludwigzgz   150
23   AlyKaptan   148
24   Northerner   146
25   Comodoro   140
26   Laarsland   137
26   RoteLaterne   137
28   Koronin   136
29   Karaev   123
30   Cordi   120
31   Otoxiep87   105
32   Leadbelly   80
33   Ray10   47
   CollectiveWisdom   175
   CollectiveIgnorance   1656

If I have been successful in setting up Google drive, the spreadsheet should be here (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JfkocaXuk81m3x1MrDj8sLrgkp6gbX_m)
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on April 07, 2020, 20:05
Year 1, Month 3, 4, 5 and possibly more 2 March to at least end May (but really only races up to 14 March)

DE DECKER Alfdan   40 (3rd in GP Jean-Pierre Monseré) for Alykaptan
WAERENSKJOLD Søren   38 (Won Tour of Rhodes and 2 stages) for Ray10
WOUTERS Enzo   12 (10th in GP Jean-Pierre Monseré) for Leadbelly
MÄRKL Niklas   9   1
ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw   8   3
MEEUS Jordi   6   1
BARTHE Cyril   5   2
VAN DEN BERG Marijn   5   1
JERMAN Ziga   3   2
ÄRM Rait   1   1
That's all the scoring riders in this period.

1   AlyKaptan   48
2   Ray10   41
3   Leadbelly   21
4=   Comodoro   9
4=   Joelsim   9
6   Nicosix   8
7=   Fivezzz   5
7=   RoteLaterne   5
7=   Scrooll07   5
10=   Everyone else   0
   CollectiveWisdom   0
   CollectiveIgnorance   263 (Nicholas White with 145 from Tour of Taiwan, David Dekker with 55 including 3rd in Le Samyn, and Jaume Sureda, 55 also from Taiwan)

Standings

Alykaptan rises 7 places, the other teams in double figures this month are slightly less far adrift than they were. No changes of position above Scrool in 12th, so Amis Velo has the pride of top spot for about 3 months at least.
1   AmisVelo   370
2   hfgon1   348
3   Skidmark   339
4   Vladimir   324
5   SafeBet   315
6   LukasCPH   296
7   Kazistuta   267
8   Nicosix   266
9   Blues_in_the_Bottle   232
10   Del_1962   230
11   Archieboy   222
12   Scrooll07   221
13   JonEzeitza   220
14   Fivezzz   218
15   Armchair_Cyclist   202
16   AlyKaptan   196
17   Josedin   189
18   Squire   175
19   Joelsim   165
20   LosBrolin   158
21   MuddyWaters   156
22   Madrazo   153
23   Ludwigzgz   150
24   Comodoro   149
25   Northerner   146
26   RoteLaterne   142
27   Laarsland   137
28   Koronin   136
29   Karaev   123
30   Cordi   120
31   Otoxiep87   105
32   Leadbelly   101
33   Ray10   88
   CollectiveWisdom   175
   CollectiveIgnorance   1818

Next update eventually.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Cordi on June 03, 2020, 10:54
Brenner straight to WT. Good, as planned  :D
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Cordi on July 27, 2020, 00:55
I'm curious about next year game.
With the calendar reduced because of the covid, in one hand there will be less obvious new names, and in the other hand some of the old guys will remain under 200. Will this mean more different teams?
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 05, 2020, 13:20
I'm curious about next year game.
With the calendar reduced because of the covid, in one hand there will be less obvious new names, and in the other hand some of the old guys will remain under 200. Will this mean more different teams?

I suspect there will be more 'must haves', as riders show their potential but without enough races to break the 200 limit, but who knows.

I suddenly remembered this morning that I have all these emerging riders games sitting dormant for months: hope to get them updated in the next few days.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on August 05, 2020, 16:17
Year 1, months 4, 5, 6 and 7 (15 March to 2 August)

Very slowly waking out of COVID hibernation: the nearest we have to a headline result after 20 weeks is some Bulgarian 2.2s

BALLESTEROS CANOVAS Miguel Angel   31pts (GC 3rd in both Steps of the Romans and Tour of Bulgaria) for Koronin
BISSEGGER Stefan   15pts (3rd in national ITT)   19 teams
WAERENSKJOLD Søren   15 (3rd in national ITT) for Ray10
ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw   12 (from Dookola Mazowsza and Puchar Ministra Obrony Narodowej)*    3 teams
HAILEMICHAEL Mulu Kinfe   6pts   2 teams
BAGIOLI Andrea   5   26
CASTRILLO ZAPATER Jaime   5   1
DINA Marton   5   1
LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   5   9
ADAMIETZ Johannes   4   1
JACOBS Johan   4   1
TRACZ Szymon   2   2
ÄRM Rait   1   1

Remy Rochas was the best of those we all missed, 4th in Sibiu.

* No, me neither ( and yes, I copied and pasted rather than trying to spell those races)

And can I say how delighted I am to discover that there is a rider called Right Arm (well, Rait Ärm, but...)  Probably came on the scene too late to feature in Courage beer adverts though.


1   Koronin   45 (Ballesteros, Lopez, Bagioli and Jacobs)
2   Ray10   35 (Bissegger, Waerenskjold and Lopez)
3   AlyKaptan   32 (Bissegger, Aniolkowski and Bagioli)
4   Comodoro, Cordi, Northerner   25
7   Leadbelly   24
8   Archieboy   22
9   Ludwigzgz   21
10   Fivezzz, Joelsim, Josedin, Karaev, LosBrolin, LukasCPH, Madrazo, MuddyWaters, RoteLaterne, Skidmark, Squire, Vladimir   20
22   Nicosix   17
23   AmisVelo   16
24   hfgon1, Kazistuta   15
26   Blues_in_the_Bottle, JonEzeitza, Scrooll07   10
29   Armchair_Cyclist, Laarsland, SafeBet   5
32   Del_1962, Otoxiep87   0
   CollectiveWisdom   20
   CollectiveIgnorance   106

Standings

Those who have stumbled out of the lockdown first were very low in the table moving into it, but Ray is off the bottom, and Koronin gets a 8 place jump.  At the still possibly of limited relevance leading end of things, Archieboy enters the top ten and Nicosix moves up within it.

1   AmisVelo   386
2   hfgon1   363
3   Skidmark   359
4   Vladimir   344
5   SafeBet   320
6   LukasCPH   316
7   Nicosix   283
8   Kazistuta   282
9   Archieboy   244
10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   242
11   Fivezzz   238
12   Scrooll07   231
13   Del_1962   230
13   JonEzeitza   230
15   AlyKaptan   228
16   Josedin   209
17   Armchair_Cyclist   207
18   Squire   195
19   Joelsim   185
20   Koronin   181
21   LosBrolin   178
22   MuddyWaters   176
23   Comodoro   174
24   Madrazo   173
25   Ludwigzgz   171
25   Northerner   171
27   RoteLaterne   162
28   Cordi   145
29   Karaev   143
30   Laarsland   142
31   Leadbelly   125
32   Ray10   123
33   Otoxiep87   105
   CollectiveWisdom   195
   CollectiveIgnorance   1854

We should be back to monthly updates, assuming the resumption lasts, from now, but a month from now the Tour de France will be underway, so I might be a bit delayed.

Spreadsheet, hopefully, here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JfkocaXuk81m3x1MrDj8sLrgkp6gbX_m/view?usp=sharing).

Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 09, 2020, 17:19
Year 1, Month 8  3rd August to 6th September

The rate of scoring moves up a pace

BAGIOLI Andrea   234 points (Tour de l'Ain stage win, 5th in Emilia, 8th in Nats, stage win and GC 2nd in Coppi e Bartali) for 26 teams
EEKHOFF Nils   233 (2nd in Hageland, 2nd in Nats, 7th in Bretagne Classic)   23
SIMMONS Quinn   195(6th in Bretagne Classic, 2nd in Tour of Hungary, top 20 in Pologne)   26
ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw   110 (won National championship and Baltik-Karnonosze tour) for Alykaptan, Leadbelly and Nicosix
CASTRILLO ZAPATER Jaime   103 for Ludwigzgz
VERMEERSCH Florian   85   2
HAILU Biniam Girmay   58   6
OTRUBA Jakub   57   1


These scores are typically about 3 or 4  times the previous total for each team:

1   AlyKaptan   960 (Bagioli, Eekhoff, Simmons and Ankiolowski)
2   Nicosix   927 (Bagioli, Eekhoff, Simmons, Ankiolowski and Hailu)
3   Northerner   916 (Bagioli, Eekhoff, Simmons)
4   AmisVelo   906(Bagioli, Eekhoff, Simmons and Hailu)
5   JonEzeitza   891
6   Ludwigzgz   888
7   LukasCPH   885
8   Skidmark   883
8   Squire   883
10   Fivezzz   865
11   Laarsland   864
12   Madrazo   854
13   LosBrolin   853
14   MuddyWaters   836
15   Joelsim   831
16   Armchair_Cyclist   805
16   Vladimir   805
18   Archieboy   783
19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   777
20   Cordi   768
21   Karaev   710
22   SafeBet   674
23   Del_1962   670
24   Comodoro   602
25   Josedin   578
26   Ray10   577
27   Koronin   570
28   RoteLaterne   502
29   Scrooll07   467
30   hfgon1   423
31   Kazistuta   417
32   Otoxiep87   393
33   Leadbelly   253
   CollectiveWisdom   843
   CollectiveIgnorance   834

Standings

This month's scores matter more than those over the previous (disrupted) seven, but Amis hangs on to the lead.  Skidmark was already 3rd, now second, and this early podium completed by Nicosix, up 4 places from 7th.  Five teams had a jump of 10 or more places, of whom Alykaptan is the highest placed.  Two teams managed to drop more than 20 places.

1   AmisVelo   1292
2   Skidmark   1242
3   Nicosix   1210
4   LukasCPH   1201
5   AlyKaptan   1188
6   Vladimir   1149
7   JonEzeitza   1121
8   Fivezzz   1103
9   Northerner   1087
10   Squire   1078
11   Ludwigzgz   1059
12   LosBrolin   1031
13   Madrazo   1027
13   Archieboy   1027
15   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1019
16   Joelsim   1016
17   MuddyWaters   1012
17   Armchair_Cyclist   1012
19   Laarsland   1006
20   SafeBet   994
21   Cordi   913
22   Del_1962   900
23   Karaev   853
24   Josedin   787
25   hfgon1   786
26   Comodoro   776
27   Koronin   751
28   Ray10   700
29   Kazistuta   699
30   Scrooll07   698
31   RoteLaterne   664
32   Otoxiep87   498
33   Leadbelly   378
   CollectiveWisdom   1038
   CollectiveIgnorance   2411

Hopefully back in a month, meanwhile have a look for yourself (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JfkocaXuk81m3x1MrDj8sLrgkp6gbX_m/view?usp=sharing).
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on September 09, 2020, 21:45
Standings

4   LukasCPH   1201
4th place overall! :o :woohoo
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on October 06, 2020, 12:45
Year 1, month 9 7 Sept to 4 October

It was a busy month for the major riders (Tour, Worlds, Ardennes, BinckBank), but not much happening for the guys at this level.

Main selected riders this month
BISSEGGER Stefan   108pts (5th in Giro Toscana, 12th in BinckBank)    19 teams
VERMEERSCH Florian   93 (Antwerp Calssic win, top 20 in BinckBank)   Otoxiep and Squire
COVI Alessandro   87 (2nd in Appennino, 8th in Coppa Sabatini)   4 teams
MEEUS Jordi   68 (4th in Gooikse Pijl, 5th in Antwerp Ports)   for Joelsim
THIJSSEN Gerben   53   3
ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw   52   3
OTRUBA Jakub   45   1
VAN POUCKE Aaron   44   1
HAILU Biniam Girmay   39   6
VERGAERDE Otto   36   1
WEEMAES Sasha   32   4

Teams this month:
1   Squire   375 (Bissegger, Vermeersch, Thijsen, Weemaes)
2   Vladimir   370  (Bissegger, Covi, Van Poucke)
3   MuddyWaters   355 (Bissegger, Covi)
4   Ray10   315
5   Josedin   306
6   Karaev   298
7   RoteLaterne   295
8   Skidmark   287
9   Otoxiep87   286
10   AlyKaptan   285
10   Joelsim   285
12   Northerner   277
13   Fivezzz   274
14   LosBrolin   266
15   LukasCPH   258
16   hfgon1   254
17   Madrazo   247
18   Cordi   242
19   Kazistuta   231
20   Laarsland   213
21   JonEzeitza   209
22   Comodoro   207
23   Archieboy   200
24   AmisVelo   198
25   Nicosix   194
26   Scrooll07   192
27   Armchair_Cyclist   175
28   Del_1962   163
29   SafeBet   155
30   Blues_in_the_Bottle   129
30   Leadbelly   129
32   Ludwigzgz   124
33   Koronin   116
   CollectiveWisdom   252
   CollectiveIgnorance   240

Standings
Still early days and close scores, but Skidmark moves up to the top, and Bissegger looks like a serious omission for Amis Velo.  Vladimir makes a good jump from 6th to 2nd, and Muddy Waters has his Mojo Working, Can be Satisfied, and might be celebrating with Champagne and a Reefer and feeling like a Mannish Boy (ok, I'll stop now) as he moves into the top ten. 

1   Skidmark   1529   up 1 place
2   Vladimir   1519   4
3   AmisVelo   1490   -2
4   AlyKaptan   1473   1
5   LukasCPH   1459   -1
6   Squire   1453   4
7   Nicosix   1404   -4
8   Fivezzz   1377   0
9   MuddyWaters   1367   8
10   Northerner   1364   -1
11   JonEzeitza   1330   -4
12   Joelsim   1301   4
13   LosBrolin   1297   -1
14   Madrazo   1274   -1
15   Archieboy   1227   -2
16   Laarsland   1219   3
17   Armchair_Cyclist   1187   0
18   Ludwigzgz   1183   -7
19   Cordi   1155   2
20   Karaev   1151   3
21   SafeBet   1149   -1
22   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1148   -7
23   Josedin   1093   1
24   Del_1962   1063   -2
25   hfgon1   1040   0
26   Ray10   1015   2
27   Comodoro   983   -1
28   RoteLaterne   959   3
29   Kazistuta   930   0
30   Scrooll07   890   0
31   Koronin   867   -4
32   Otoxiep87   784   0
33   Leadbelly   507   0
   CollectiveWisdom   1290   
   CollectiveIgnorance   2604   

None of this cohort were in the Tour, but one of them has already got a podium in the Giro, so next month might see a bit more scoring.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Cordi on October 06, 2020, 18:05
Love the musical references!
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on November 22, 2020, 22:40
Year 1, month 10-11 and effectively to the end of the year: 5th October to 15th November. 

The strangest October/November though, with Giro, Vuelta and a sprinkling of Spring Classics.  But not many lower level races

Best performing riders selected in the game


rider points teams source of points
NIEUWENHUIS Joris      71      4      3rd in Paris-Tours
ZIMMERMANN Georg      67      13      21st in Vuelta
BAGIOLI Andrea      66      26   7th in BrabantsePijl and stage 3rd in Vuelta
HONORE Mikkel Frølich      59      5       30th and stage points in Giro
ARENSMAN Thymen      57      13      41st and stage points in Vuelta
GOOSSENS Kobe      56      2      24th in Vuelta
JACOBS Johan      55      1      16th in Gent-Wev and 4th in Nats RR
VANHOUCKE Harm      52      1       Stage points and finishing Giro
CEPEDA HERNANDEZ Jefferson Alveiro      51      1      4th in Ordiziako and Vuelta finish
THIJSSEN Gerben      50      3       2nd and 5th in Vuelta stages
but none of us got the best scoring eligible rider for this period: SIRIRONNACHAI Sarawut, who took 133 points from the Tour of Thailand!

Our scores this session

Rank Team Points Riders >50pts
1      Scrooll07      427   Nieuwenhuis/Zimmermann/Bagioli/ Honore
2      JonEzeitza      402   Nieuwenhuis/Zimmermann/Bagioli/ Honore
3      Laarsland      338   Zimmermann/Bagioli/ Thijssen
4      Armchair_Cyclist      335   Zimmermann/Bagioli/ Arensman/Vanhoucke
5      Del_1962      307   Zimmermann/Honore
6      Madrazo      294   
7      Vladimir      289   
7      RoteLaterne      289   
9      Karaev      286   
10      Nicosix      268   
10      Ludwigzgz      268   
12      AmisVelo      261   
13      Blues_in_the_Bottle      256   
14      Cordi      249   
15      Northerner      246   
16      LosBrolin      243   
17      LukasCPH      226   
18      SafeBet      217   
19      Joelsim      216   
20      Skidmark      215   
20      Squire      215   
22      MuddyWaters      209   
23      hfgon1      207   
24      AlyKaptan      206   
25      Koronin      203   
26      Archieboy      194   
27      Josedin      189   
28      Fivezzz      186   
29      Kazistuta      160   
30      Otoxiep87      157   
31      Comodoro      149   
32      Ray10      141   
33      Leadbelly      23   
      CollectiveWisdom      284   
      CollectiveIgnorance      401   


Standings

Vladimir gets to wear the leader's jersey through the off season, while JonE makes the type of large jump that shows we are still in the early stages.

Rank Team Score change
1      Vladimir      1808      1
2      AmisVelo      1751      1
3      Skidmark      1744      -2
4      JonEzeitza      1732      7
5      LukasCPH      1685      0
6      AlyKaptan      1679      -2
7      Nicosix      1672      0
8      Squire      1668      -2
9      Northerner      1610      1
10      MuddyWaters      1576      -1
11      Madrazo      1568      3
12      Fivezzz      1563      -4
13      Laarsland      1557      3
14      LosBrolin      1540      -1
15      Armchair_Cyclist      1522      2
16      Joelsim      1517      -4
17      Ludwigzgz      1451      1
18      Karaev      1437      2
19      Archieboy      1421      -4
20      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1404      2
20      Cordi      1404      -1
22      Del_1962      1370      2
23      SafeBet      1366      -2
24      Scrooll07      1317      6
25      Josedin      1282      -2
26      RoteLaterne      1248      2
27      hfgon1      1247      -2
28      Ray10      1156      -2
29      Comodoro      1132      -2
30      Kazistuta      1090      -1
31      Koronin      1070      0
32      Otoxiep87      941      0
33      Leadbelly      530      0
   CollectiveWisdom      1574      
   CollectiveIgnorance      2768   


When the end of year download is available, I'll do another update with the Year 1 data, but don't expect much change.  It has been the smaller races that have suffered most from cancellation, and which are usually important in year 1 of these games: this is not going to be a typical edition.  The leading scores at the end of Year 1 in previous editions have been 3777 to 4687 points.

If you just can't wait to see more numbers, here they are. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JfkocaXuk81m3x1MrDj8sLrgkp6gbX_m/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Leadbelly on November 23, 2020, 07:20
I reckon I'll have to abandon my own "CT or lower" rule for next year's edition. :(
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on November 23, 2020, 09:34
I reckon I'll have to abandon my own "CT or lower" rule for next year's edition. :(
If I start doing a VR vs CN in this, as I have in some of the other games, you might come under pressure to do that.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on January 04, 2021, 00:57
Year 1, month 11-12

In the end of year update, none of the selected riders gained any late points, or lost any in adjustments, but Moise Mugisha got enough points from winning the GP Chantal Biya in Cameroon to appear in the top 18 unselected riders list, the Collective Ignorance team, (and put himself out of eligibility for the next edition of the game (http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=9743.new#new)), so the CI team is the top, and only, scorer this session.


Best possible team thus far, made up of the 18 top eligible scorers in the crazy mixed up season that was 2020:
Rider 2020 points Teams
BAGIOLI Andrea      377      26
TESFATSION Natnael Ocbit      292      0
HAILU Biniam Girmay      277      6
EEKHOFF Nils      245      23
KACZMAREK Jakub      226      0
FEDOROV Yevgeniy      210      1
VERMEERSCH Florian      208      2
SIMMONS Quinn      205      26
ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw      197      3
TOUPALIK Adam      182      0
FLOREZ LOPEZ Miguel Eduardo      172      0
HONORE Mikkel Frølich      170      5
WHITE Nicholas      161      0
GUERNALEC Thibault      157      0
ZIMMERMANN Georg      147      13
MORIN Emmanuel      146      0
BISSEGGER Stefan      145      19
KOOIJ Olav      144      0
That is a total of 3661 points.  The leading score is 49.4% of what is possible, which is quite a lot less than previous years, but 2020...

Leading teams, and the members of the best possible team that they selected:
1 Vladimir 1808 Bagioli Eekhoff Fedorov Simmons Zimmermann Bisegger
2      AmisVelo      1751   Bagioli Hailu Eekhoff Simmons Zimmermann
3      Skidmark      1744    Bagioli Hailu Eekhoff Simmons Zimmermann Bisegger
4      JonEzeitza      1732    Bagioli Eekhoff Simmons Honoré Zimmermann
5      LukasCPH      1685    Bagioli Eekhoff Simmons Honoré Bisegger
6      AlyKaptan      1679   Bagioli Eekhoff Simmons Aniolkowski Bisegger
7      Nicosix      1672   Bagioli Hailu Eekhoff Simmons Aniolkowski
8      Squire      1668   Bagioli Eekhoff Vermeersch Simmons Bisegger
(the 9th placed team is another 58 points behind, but with 2 years to go and much bigger point hauls likely, other teams could certainly be contenders)


Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on January 04, 2021, 09:10
Year 1, month 11-12

Leading teams, and the members of the best possible team that they selected:
5      LukasCPH      1685    Bagioli Eekhoff Simmons Honoré Bisegger
I must have done something right! :)
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Leadbelly on January 07, 2021, 17:43
If I start doing a VR vs CN in this, as I have in some of the other games, you might come under pressure to do that.

I had a brainwave.

I could enter my team on CN and drag their average down. The enemy within and all that. :D
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Cordi on January 10, 2021, 02:28
If I start doing a VR vs CN in this, as I have in some of the other games, you might come under pressure to do that.

You could include there a PC team. Almost 1/5 of the participants come from Parlamento Ciclista, the spanish forum   :cool

I think we're currently 7 playing the emerging, although for this one Kryvo missed the date.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 02, 2021, 23:36
Is there a discussion thread about the game there?   My Spanish is probably not up to adding much, but I might be able to read a good proportion of it.
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 03, 2021, 00:09
Year 2, Month 1 to 31 January

Not much yet:
STRONG Corbin got 37 points, mainly for winning GC in the NZ Cycling Classic, but also 5th in Gravel & Tar, for SafeBet
DALLA VALLE Nicholas  1 point for 3rd in a stage in Tachira for Otoxiep

and that is it, except that Arjen Livyns got enough points in La Marseillaise to get into the Collective Wisdom team and increase the score of that group by 15 points.

SafeBet's points were enough to move up him one place to 22nd; Otoxiep's single point does nothing to improve his placing.

Numbers (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qGtMpBxocTe0-L5PRaFRXBZNMNKG8w3w/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2021, 01:13
Year 2, month 2 1-28 Feb

January was all but wiped off the calendar, but now the year has got underway properly, although still early days for those for whom this might prove to be their breakout year.

Name Pts this month Teams source
BAGIOLI Andrea      130      26   Drome win   
HONORE Mikkel Frølich      124      5   4th in Ardeche & 3rd in Drome   
PIDCOCK Thomas      71      21   3rd in KBK   
VANSEVENANT Mauri      50      19   8th in Provence   
CULLAIGH Gabriel      40      5   7th in Almeira   
HAILU Biniam Girmay      40      6   7th in Drome   
SIMMONS Quinn      34      26      
BOUCHARD Geoffrey      32      3   

The top four this month are all on Fivezzz' team
Rank this monthteamPts this monthMain riders
1      Fivezzz      507   Bagioli/Honore/Pidcock/Vansevenant/Simmons/Bouchard   
2      LukasCPH      474   Bagioli/Honore/Pidcock/Cullaigh/Simmons/Bouchard
3      JonEzeitza      417   Bagioli/Honore/Pidcock/Simmons
4      AmisVelo      414   Bagioli/Pidcock/Vansevenant/Hailu/Cullaigh/Simmons
5      Skidmark      368      
6      Squire      365      
7      MuddyWaters      350      
8      Cordi      349      
9      Northerner      345      
10      Madrazo      333      
10      Blues_in_the_Bottle      333      
10      SafeBet      333      
13      Joelsim      328      
14      LosBrolin      323      
15      Armchair_Cyclist      319      
16      Scrooll07      309      
17      Del_1962      304      
18      Laarsland      300      
19      Karaev      297      
20      RoteLaterne      294      
21      Kazistuta      293      
22      Comodoro      289      
23      Ludwigzgz      271      
24      Archieboy      270      
25      Nicosix      269      
26      Koronin      241      
27      Josedin      235      
28      AlyKaptan      222      
29      Vladimir      212      
30      hfgon1      156      
31      Ray10      112      
32      Otoxiep87      82      
33      Leadbelly      9      
      CollectiveWisdom      338      
      CollectiveIgnorance      348   

Standings
Vladimir has Bagioli, but despite that not only lost first place, but falls all the way to 7th.  Amis Velo is back on the top, and the top 6 scorers in February are the top 6 overall, although Fivezzz hadn't even been in the top ten last month.

Rank team total change
1      AmisVelo      2165      1
2      LukasCPH      2159      3
3      JonEzeitza      2149      1
4      Skidmark      2112      -1
5      Fivezzz      2070      7
6      Squire      2033      2
7      Vladimir      2020      -6
8      Northerner      1955      1
9      Nicosix      1941      -2
10      MuddyWaters      1926      0
11      Madrazo      1901      0
11      AlyKaptan      1901      -5
13      LosBrolin      1863      1
14      Laarsland      1857      -1
15      Joelsim      1845      1
16      Armchair_Cyclist      1841      -1
17      Cordi      1753      3
18      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1737      2
19      SafeBet      1736      3
20      Karaev      1734      -2
21      Ludwigzgz      1722      -4
22      Archieboy      1691      -3
23      Del_1962      1674      0
24      Scrooll07      1626      0
25      RoteLaterne      1542      1
26      Josedin      1517      -1
27      Comodoro      1421      2
28      hfgon1      1403      -1
29      Kazistuta      1383      1
30      Koronin      1311      1
31      Ray10      1268      -3
32      Otoxiep87      1024      0
33      Leadbelly      539      0
      CollectiveWisdom      1912      
      CollectiveIgnorance      3099   

Linky-link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GsPxdUT6BOALpuBaj2uCXH4ktugGaKAO/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: 2020-22 Emerging Riders CQ Game
Post by: LukasCPH on March 03, 2021, 12:35
Year 2, month 2 1-28 Feb
As poor as my team is in the 19-21 game, as good it is in this one. :)