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Title: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 15, 2020, 09:03
Women's TT (Thursday 24th September)

(https://i.imgur.com/hGyN9zr.png)

Men's TT (Friday 25th September)

(https://i.imgur.com/7MGOXnP.png)

Women's RR (Saturday 26th September)

(https://i.imgur.com/srlFl2c.png)

Men's RR
(Sunday 27th September)

(https://i.imgur.com/MSM4MVV.png)

Not too many days away now.

What with the juniors and U23s getting canned, I'm quite glad I didn't waste a weeks holiday to watch this on TV. I'll trust to the gods that I get the Saturday or Sunday off.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 15, 2020, 09:15
Some team news:

https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1305433298517319680

https://twitter.com/ChroniqueDuVelo/status/1305748430996803585

https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1305759811674480640

https://twitter.com/ChroniqueDuVelo/status/1305765543719309312

https://twitter.com/ChroniqueDuVelo/status/1305778630207963136

https://twitter.com/LRoisDuPeloton/status/1305591228147343361

https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1303606896318963712
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 15, 2020, 18:29
https://twitter.com/mundociclistico/status/1305881960959610880
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Mellow Velo on September 15, 2020, 20:27
https://twitter.com/mundociclistico/status/1305881960959610880

Ah so, 7 chiefs and 1 Indian. :lol


Formidable, but a team?
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: AG on September 16, 2020, 08:07
yep - that is going to be their biggest problem - well that, and Slovenia.

Only have to look at Spain to see how that turns out.   Tuscany Spain had 2 against 1 and still lost ...
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 20, 2020, 10:13
Things just got very interesting for the Slovenian squad.

With supposedly both Pogačar and Roglič lining up together, along with the support of Jani Brajkovič, might we see Tadej usher Primož into the  #rainbow?

Now that would make for quite the story.  :cool

Who knows what form Roglič might find himself with next week, and whether or not he'll be the stronger of the two, but the course would seem to suit his abilities, and the prospect of such a victory is just too tempting to ignore.

So here's hoping for another amazing fairy tale to unfold. :pray

(Although a much more likely outcome is that current teammate Wout van Aert rules the day. Such a tangled web.)
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 21, 2020, 11:47
https://twitter.com/8aldwin/status/1307979906014490626
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 21, 2020, 12:21
Should be Niewadoma's best chance at finally winning the rainbows?
Her Polish fans are unfortunately very likely unable to go this year (very dedicated and very crazy gang roadside in Bergen 2017).  :D
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Servais Knavendish on September 21, 2020, 12:22
Things just got very interesting for the Slovenian squad.

With supposedly both Pogačar and Roglič lining up together, along with the support of Jani Brajkovič, might we see Tadej usher Primož into the  #rainbow?

Now that would make for quite the story.  :cool

Who knows what form Roglič might find himself with next week, and whether or not he'll be the stronger of the two, but the course would seem to suit his abilities, and the prospect of such a victory is just too tempting to ignore.

So here's hoping for another amazing fairy tale to unfold. :pray

(Although a much more likely outcome is that current teammate Wout van Aert rules the day. Such a tangled web.)

Yes going to be really interesting but being purely rational and trying to take out the emotion, hasn't Pog just shown unequivocally that he should be designated rider;  better to win with Pog, than podium with Rog?

Buy yes will be rooting for WvA!

Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 21, 2020, 12:50
better to win with Pog, than podium with Rog?

Point taken.  :P

But lets's not be too hasty here. If Tadej were to win Worlds as well, he may well have to ride much of next season dressed in something like this, but with rainbow stripes strewn across the front.
 :o

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2792/3512/products/Toshiba_500x.jpg?v=1578692200)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0097/7380/9715/products/1_fe93cc4b_1024x1024.png?v=1595583139)
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Servais Knavendish on September 21, 2020, 13:39
Very true  - however luckily UAE jersey the single most boring in the peloton - so no biggie re any add ons!  :cool
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 21, 2020, 13:57
Should be Niewadoma's best chance at finally winning the rainbows?
Absolutely.
She was very strong in the Giro Rosa, and those short steep climbs are tailormade for her. The team will be fully in support of her, and those are some good riders.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 21, 2020, 15:36
Very true  - however luckily UAE jersey the single most boring in the peloton - so no biggie re any add ons!  :cool

It is a #uae jersey, all the addons come in a very narrow band across the chest so it wouldn't look anything like those flamboyant costumes you are dreaming of, guys!

(That team should be outlawed in all national championships - too ugly national champions' jersey rule!  :D )
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: AG on September 22, 2020, 10:30
Absolutely.
She was very strong in the Giro Rosa, and those short steep climbs are tailormade for her. The team will be fully in support of her, and those are some good riders.

and No Van Vleuten or Vos this year  :(
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 22, 2020, 11:58
and No Van Vleuten or Vos this year  :(
Vos is selected?
And even Van Vleuten hasn't ruled out doing the road race yet (notwithstanding whether that would be a good idea for her long-term health).
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: AG on September 22, 2020, 13:57
I thought they were both out due to the crash in Giro .....

hmmm
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 22, 2020, 16:39
I thought they were both out due to the crash in Giro .....

hmmm
Vos only has a bit of road rash and is fine otherwise. She finished the Giro Rosa.
Van Vleuten - yeah. Broken wrist doesn't sound great, but apparently it was simpler to operate than first thought, and on Saturday she wasn't ruling out to start the Worlds. And as of yesterday, she is still on the #teamnl list: https://nos.nl/artikel/2349269-gesink-zegt-wk-af-dumoulin-en-van-vleuten-staan-nog-wel-op-de-lijst.html (https://nos.nl/artikel/2349269-gesink-zegt-wk-af-dumoulin-en-van-vleuten-staan-nog-wel-op-de-lijst.html)
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 23, 2020, 02:30
No love for the squad that did so well last year? :slow  :(

They announced it weeks ago!  :P

*usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa

Elite Women’s Individual Time Trial

Chloe Dygert
Amber Neben
Lauren Stephens

https://twitter.com/usacycling/status/1308090966608408580

Elite Men’s Individual Time Trial
Lawson Craddock
Brandon McNulty


Elite Women’s Road Race
Krista Doebel-Hickok
Chloe Dygert
Amber Neben
Coryn Rivera
Lauren Stephens
Tayler Wiles
Ruth Winder

Elite Men’s Road Race
Lawson Craddock
Brandon McNulty
Sepp Kuss
Neilson Powless

*usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa *usa
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 23, 2020, 05:00
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The NBC Olympic Channel is covering all four races live!  :cool
#rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Radio_News_Sep_1928_Cover.jpg/220px-Radio_News_Sep_1928_Cover.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/9e/e1/619ee1fddf0f567eebaef5e6adf3faa5.jpg)


Of course I was still skeptical of this being the case, even though it's posted on the USA Cycling website. But upon further investigation, not only is it already listed in my channel guide, but as of the moment of this post, they're actually replaying last year's World Championships! I'll take that as confirmation of their commitment to race coverage.
 :)

It begins with reasonable viewing times for me:

Women's iTT - Thursday, 8:40 am ET
Men's iTT - Friday, 8:25 am ET

But then...

Women's RR - Saturday, 6:45 am ET

Men's RR - Sunday, 4:00 am ET :S
With pre-show beginning at 3:45 am.  :flustered


I'm just happy to have coverage.  Also, it must be a slow month for the Olympic channel because they're offering replays of the races throughout the afternoon and evening as well. :cool

And with excellent weather forecast here through the weekend, I'll be out the door and on the bike each day, with plenty of time to enjoy a beautiful Fall season. Hitting the road with a nice, post-race buzz is always a bonus!
:win

#rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow #rainbow
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: AG on September 23, 2020, 05:31
Glad to see Sepp Kuss riding.  I hope he does well.


I was super disappointed to find that the Giro Rosa was not actually included in the GCN Pass in Australia ... so all I got was a highlights package the next day (which is better than nothing, but not quite the live racing that I was expecting).

I have really enjoyed the womens racing this year.   Just shows that if they actually broadcast it, people might watch  :o
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2020, 06:01
I was super disappointed to find that the Giro Rosa was not actually included in the GCN Pass in Australia ... so all I got was a highlights package the next day (which is better than nothing, but not quite the live racing that I was expecting).

The highlights package was all there was anywhere.

It did cause a bit of a brouhaha. The organizers said in response

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-rosa-hits-back-at-complaints-about-no-live-television-coverage/

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“We are fully aware of the importance, we could even say of the need, of live television broadcast of our race. This urgency has been in our thoughts since the first day we planned this year's race and the same live broadcast should have happened,”

“However, the situation that the whole world is experiencing in recent months does not escape anyone. The COVID-19 pandemic has put every possible human activity in check, upsetting the plans of every workplace. Added to this is a great difficulty, known to all insiders, to find space in the television schedules. For this reason, with deep regret, we are unable to ensure the live television of the race.

“Having to choose, we have decided to protect the women's cycling movement and give up on live coverage; allowing the women to compete, which they absolutely need, especially in light of the many other canceled races.

“We can only repeat that we regret the decision but we are also certain and proud to have acted exclusively in the interest of the cycling movement.”
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Mellow Velo on September 23, 2020, 07:49
Edit:
I should read all the posts before responding. :-x
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 23, 2020, 09:02
I was super disappointed to find that the Giro Rosa was not actually included in the GCN Pass in Australia ... so all I got was a highlights package the next day (which is better than nothing, but not quite the live racing that I was expecting).
There wasn't a live broadcast anywhere, GCN only showed an 'as-live' delayed broadcast. And the *au rights for that lay with SBS, I think - which is why it wasn't available on GCN Down Under.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 23, 2020, 12:41
after one year without (road) racing, Chloe Dygart turns up tomorrow in the women's ITT to defend her #rainbow jersey, he hasn't even worn once. Will be interesting to see if that, plus the fact that she "being honest, [...] really don’t even like bikes" is the right approach to go into the Worlds ;)

https://www.velonews.com/news/road/chloe-dygert-on-preparing-for-the-cycling-road-world-championships-without-racing/
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 23, 2020, 13:37
after one year without (road) racing, Chloe Dygart turns up tomorrow in the women's ITT to defend her #rainbow jersey

A curious interview, indeed.

Although...

Quote
I didn’t race much last year either, so I really am used to this preparation.

sounds like she might still be a threat.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 23, 2020, 14:20
yeah, sure, that was probably the most impressive performance ever last year, when it comes to women's ITT
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 23, 2020, 14:51
It's seems a bit sad that the defending champion, #rainbow #teamdk Mads Pedersen, won't even be at the start line due the nature of the course.

I understand that the route is hilly, but avoiding that doesn't seem to reflect well on the #rainbow.


Of course that's easy for me to say from the comfort of my home, but try explaining the meaning of "World Champion" to someone unfamiliar with the sport.  I just find his absence unfortunate, as is the fact that he had so few opportunities to even show off the Rainbow Jersey in 2020.

(https://www.bikeraceinfo.com/images-all/worlds-images/images19/world-2019-men-elite-rr-pderesen-mads-finish.jpg)

(https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/schema_org/public/trek-pedersen-wc-bike-ride-11_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 23, 2020, 18:55
It's seems a bit sad that the defending champion, #rainbow #teamdk Mads Pedersen, won't even be at the start line due the nature of the course.
I agree that it is sad he's not lining up.
However, it's not only because of the nature of the course. He's scheduled to start the BinckBank Tour with #trek on Tuesday, with the road race being held Sunday.

Mind you, I don't think the BinckBank Tour ('just another stage race') is reason enough not to do the Worlds (WORLDS!), but apparently Mads P and #trek beg to differ. And the team will want him to focus on and be in tip-top shape for the spring autumn classics.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Mellow Velo on September 23, 2020, 20:26
I agree that it is sad he's not lining up.
However, it's not only because of the nature of the course. He's scheduled to start the BinckBank Tour with #trek on Tuesday, with the road race being held Sunday.

Mind you, I don't think the BinckBank Tour ('just another stage race') is reason enough not to do the Worlds (WORLDS!), but apparently Mads P and #trek beg to differ. And the team will want him to focus on and be in tip-top shape for the spring autumn classics.

Me three.
Especially as Sunday's weather looks as if it is going to turn distinctly Northern European. Harrogate revisited.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 23, 2020, 22:26
*no update - #jumbo Amund Grøndal Jansen not racing the road race as he is a bit tired after the TdF. Instead we get the Euroterror from the Tour of Columbia this January and recent Malopolska stage winner, #unox Torstein Træen.

I am not sure he is able to deliver much for a race at the highest level, but he sure can climb better than Jansen Valverde.  Probably not a bad replacement, given the parcours.

---
Speaking of parcours, just how hard is it really?  Like Firenze or Ponferrada? Strong allrounders played a very important part there, I am not sure it has to be a climber.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 24, 2020, 01:24
Especially as Sunday's weather looks as if it is going to turn distinctly Northern European.

:win 

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2438/3656666935_d9c9672ee1_b.jpg)
:cool 
(https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2019/12/16/10/44/dancing-in-the-rain-4699087_960_720.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 24, 2020, 03:40
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The Great Britain Cycling Team has confirmed Matt Holmes has withdrawn from the men’s road race at the UCI Road World Championships in Imola due to a non-COVID related illness.
*Ethan Hayter will replace Holmes in Sunday’s race.

*uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk

Elite Women’s Time Trial
Lizzy Banks
Alice Barnes

Elite Men’s Time Trial
Alex Dowsett
Geraint Thomas

Elite Women’s Road Race
Lizzy Banks
Alice Barnes
Hannah Barnes
Lizzie Deignan
Anna Henderson
Anna Shackley

Elite Men’s Road Race
Hugh Carthy
Ethan Hayter*
James Knox
Tom Pidcock
Luke Rowe
James Shaw

*uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk *uk
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: just some guy on September 24, 2020, 05:48
Weather looks bad windy ITT up to 90 km gusts for the men.

Rain on the weekend
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: AG on September 24, 2020, 08:35
hard course and difficult weather ... sounds fun  :D
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2020, 08:54
Start list for the unofficial Women's U23 TT:

(https://i.imgur.com/aH7FYFR.png)

• Gareeva won the junior TT title last year

• Guazzini was third at the Italian Nats

• Norsgaard is Danish :P

• Labous, the French champion, is probably the favourite

• Harvey is in good form
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 24, 2020, 09:53
Start list for the unofficial Women's U23 TT:

I've no idea what this is about, but I trust that Google will inform me.

I was lamenting the fact that there's no Junior or U23 element to the this year's WC, for without either of those, how will we get a preview of next year's TdF winner?

 :P
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Echoes on September 24, 2020, 09:57
First question that comes to mind for me : is the course roughly the same as the 1968 one when Vittorio Adorni was World Champion?
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 24, 2020, 10:12
First question that comes to mind for me : is the course roughly the same as the 1968 one when Vittorio Adorni was World Champion?

no it's not, la Flamme Rouge has profiles for (almost?) all World Championships:

1968: https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/168823
2020: https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/380612

So in 1968 they were using a circuit over the Tre Monti climb (like also in the Giro 2015, for example), this year it's a larger one, going over two different climbs. Just the first and final couple of kilometers are the same.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 24, 2020, 12:53
Search, how would you compare this course to Firenze, Ponferrada and Innsbrück?

It looks a bit easier than Bergen - fewer laps means it is not so easy to get dizzy and celebrate with 1 lap remaining.  :)
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 24, 2020, 13:30
hard to say, I would think the (likely) wet weather and steep climbs will make it pretty hard and selective. Maybe like Firenze, with some  punchy climbers fighting it out, but the puncheurs not finishing too far behind.

In terms of total altitude change, it's more like Ponferrada, but back then Bouhanni almost made the group fighting for the win, so it was not that selective, and almost no action before the final lap.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 24, 2020, 13:33
Speaking of parcours, just how hard is it really?  Like Firenze or Ponferrada? Strong allrounders played a very important part there, I am not sure it has to be a climber.
Short, steep climbs, many, many times - I'd say it's like a super-charged LBL. Something for the puncheurs who can recover very well - many of which also are pretty good climbers: Fuglsang, Nibali, Valverde ...
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: just some guy on September 24, 2020, 16:19
That crash of Chloe was bad, not so much for what you saw but the forces involved that would have flipping hurt
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2020, 16:34
Start list for the unofficial Women's U23 TT:

(https://i.imgur.com/aH7FYFR.png)

:fanfare :fanfare :fanfare

1st - *dk Emma Cecilie Norsgaard

2nd - *fr Juliette Labous

3rd - *nz Mikayla Harvey
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2020, 16:43
Start list for the unofficial Men's U23 TT:

(https://i.imgur.com/hGnBPZx.png)

Leknessund the favourite. Competition from Bjerg and McNulty (though the American hasn't done much since the restart).
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 24, 2020, 20:16
*no Leknessund is a good candidate for the U23unoffical, but I think he would have preferred a more undulating parcours. Perhaps all the curves in the later part may serve him well, but he tends to start hard and either break into pieces near the end or do really well. On the limit, towards the end, facing repeated accelrations?

My favorite is Pogacar, he should get a supercompensation this weekend, and he is 22, so eligible - but not starting?

That *hu Hungarian rider though, is a tough one to beat. Always on Peak form, they say.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2020, 20:40
My favorite is Pogacar, he should get a supercompensation this weekend, and he is 22, so eligible - but not starting?

He's not on the start list according to First or PCS. Tratters is down to ride for Slovenia.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: AG on September 25, 2020, 03:05
Hope Chloe Dygert is ok - that was a nasty crash at high speed
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 25, 2020, 10:42
Hope Chloe Dygert is ok - that was a nasty crash at high speed
She's expected to make a full recovery, USA Cycling said:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chloe-dygert-undergoes-surgery-to-repair-laceration-in-left-leg-after-worlds-crash/ (https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chloe-dygert-undergoes-surgery-to-repair-laceration-in-left-leg-after-worlds-crash/)
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 26, 2020, 12:18
He's not on the start list according to First or PCS. Tratters is down to ride for Slovenia.

He is now.  :P

Slovenia

*si BRAJKOVIČ Janez
*si MEZGEC Luka
*si NOVAK Domen
*si PIBERNIK Luka
*si POGAČAR Tadej
*si POLANC Jan
*si ROGLIČ Primož
*si TRATNIK Jan
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 26, 2020, 16:45
The Dutch women predictably smoked their road race.



Medal table after 3/4 events:
Place Country #rainbow /sm /bm
1 *nl Netherlands 2 1 1
2 *it Italy 1 0 1
3 *ch Switzerland 0 1 1
4 *be Belgium 0 1 0
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 26, 2020, 17:50
The Dutch women predictably smoked their road race.

Is that code for "impressive but boring"?
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 26, 2020, 18:28
Start list for the unofficial Men's U23 TT:

(https://i.imgur.com/hGnBPZx.png)

:fanfare :fanfare :fanfare

1st - *no Andreas Leknessund

2nd - *dk Mikkel Bjerg

3rd - *usa Brandon McNulty

Pretty much as predicted.

No unofficial U23 RR championships. It's all about the PCT, CT and club World Championship titles instead.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 26, 2020, 18:42
Is that code for "impressive but boring"?
Kind of, to be honest.
There was a bit "when will something happen?" suspense until the first climb of the penultimate lap when #teamnl Annemiek van Vleuten accelerated, dropping everyone except #teamit Elisa Longo Borghini, #teamdk Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig & #teamnl Anna van der Breggen - and then Van der Breggen counterattacked on that, and nobody was able to follow. By that point, the race for #rainbow was over.

The chasers didn't want to pull Van Vleuten along and were caught by the peloton, then attacks on the final climb formed the AvV-ELB duo and the group behind them.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 26, 2020, 18:46
Just looking at those women's results made me think. Why are good female Belgian cyclists so lacking in number?

Obviously on the men's side we are used to having some of the biggest names come from Belgium and it seems that every WT team worth it's salt has a couple of them kicking around. A win tomorrow would be no big surprise.

Meanwhile over in the women's scene, how many Belgians are in the WT? One, that's right just one. Best placed rider today? That same one rider down in 50th at 14m01.

Now there have been good Belgian riders in the past and the WT stat doesn't tell the full story as it's only 8 teams and there are more than a few Belgian riders and teams in the CT ranks, but the discrepancy between the two sexes just seems weird.

What's going on here? It can't be genetic (obviously). Cultural? The women's sport developing differently? I need educating Fus!
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 26, 2020, 18:53
to be fair, Kopecky looked pretty strong over the past weeks though, but decided to save herself for the upcoming classics, given the (probably too) hard course.

I just noticed that Enrico Gasparotto, after 16 years as a pro, will start in his first World Championships tomorrow by the way. For #teamch Switzerland

"It's a dream that comes true. I think this is a more unique than rare opportunity to give something back to a country that has given me a lot. I have lived in Lugano for many years, my wife is Swiss and so are many of my friends ».

https://www.laregione.ch/sport/altri-sport/1463332/gasparotto-esordio-iridato-a-38-anni
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 26, 2020, 21:26
Just looking at those women's results made me think. Why are good female Belgian cyclists so lacking in number?
Until we have 15 WWT teams, it's a bit unfair to only look at the 8 WWT teams. There's Jolien D'hoore on #boels and Lotte Kopecky on #lsl who are very much world class - while #fdj Demey is very much a domestique.

I've had someone explain the situation with female cyclists in Belgium to me on Twitter once, but I can't find that now.

In a nutshell: There's not much support for Belgian female cyclists in the youth categories.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 27, 2020, 01:55
To the extent that it's even possible, I'll be trying to keep an eye on  *si Jani Brajkovič #teamsi in the Men's Road Race.

The only reason I say that is that he's been quite vocal over the past couple years in regards to the difficulty he's faced in terms of landing a contract with a team that he feels he's worthy of. He's had a chip on his shoulder about it, and I imagine that he sees the WC RR as a platform to earn some notoriety—especially with the obvious attention being paid to his national team due to the participation of Pogo and Rogo.

That being said, he can also be quite whiny, so I very much expect to see him withdrawing early from the race with at least a few complaints to blame it on. But he might try to animate things prior to that. We will see...

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FWIW, when a general Google search using only his name offered nothing even remotely related to the man I was looking for.
Two more specific Google searches provided the following:
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Your search - Jani Braković cyclist - did not match any image results.

Your search - Jani Braković cyclist - did not match any news results.

:shh


Then there was this recently:

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Jani Brajkovic has said the Slovenian National Championships had no safety measures to protect people against coronavirus.

“It’s nice to have cycling event again in Slovenia,” Brajkovic wrote on Twitter following the time trial event. “But it would also be appropriate to take at least some safety measures…there were none.”

Brajkovic, who now races for Continental team Adria Mobil, came fourth in both the men’s elite road race and time trial.

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Brajkovic followed up his claims about the safety measures with a mysterious outburst an hour later, tweeting: “To whom it may concern: you can go f**k yourself in your empty brains.” The 36-year-old is yet to elaborate on this comment.
  :D

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Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 27, 2020, 06:47
FWIW, when a general Google search using only his name offered nothing even remotely related to the man I was looking for.
Two more specific Google searches provided the following: :shh

Your search - Jani Braković cyclist - did not match any image results.

Your search - Jani Braković cyclist - did not match any news results.

another "j" may be of help ;)

(https://siol.net/media/img/d1/93/9c97522432c0ef0f5758-tadej-pogacar-jani-brajkovic.jpeg)
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 27, 2020, 11:16
another "j" may be of help ;)

:fp  :fp  :fp  :fp 

I'm such an idiot.  :D I had even double-checked that, and just to be careful, I had copy/pasted his name from somewhere without recognizing that the source had misspelled it.
 :S :lol

Never mind.  :-x
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 27, 2020, 15:35
The Team Velorooms jersey wins!
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 27, 2020, 17:24
Alaphilippe attacked on the final climb. Everyone expected it, and still nobody had any reply.
A true #rainbow champion.

Bookkeeping:


Final medal table:
Place Country #rainbow /sm /bm
1 *nl Netherlands 2 1 1
2 *it Italy 1 0 1
3 *fr France 1 0 0
4 *be Belgium 0 2 0
5 *ch Switzerland 0 1 2
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 27, 2020, 18:18
hope he won't have too much of a stiff neck, and can present his #rainbow jersey in Fleche Wallonne on Wednesday ;)

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Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 27, 2020, 22:56
....
Final medal table:
Place Country #rainbow /sm /bm
1 :win Breggenland 200
2 *it Italy 1 0 1
3 *fr France 1 0 0
4 *be Belgium 0 2 0
5 *ch Switzerland 0 1 2
6 *nl Netherlands 0 1 1


Fixed it for you  :P
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Echoes on September 27, 2020, 23:47
It was a nice race. Disappointed as a Belgian but have to admit that the best rider won and it's well deserved. What is weird is that moments prior his decisive attack we could see Alaphilippe biting his teeth, fighting and Van Aert breathing through the nose but still Julian won and Wout came 2nd. Julian is the more explosive rider of the two anyway. We could see that in Milan-Sanremo, only then Wout was able to capitalise on the descent to come back. On a harder route it's harder for him. He's too heavy.

Anyway, isn't it unusual to have 20+ km laps at the Worlds? I've always thought 20km was a limit.
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 28, 2020, 12:22
Anyway, isn't it unusual to have 20+ km laps at the Worlds? I've always thought 20km was a limit.
Indeed.
There is no limit as such, but laps of 14-21 km are definitely the 'standard' in recent years. And going back further, the 'standard' was even shorter - 12-18 km.

I've looked at the last 40 editions (including the cancelled one in Aigle/Martigny), see the list in the spoiler below.
The average distance of a lap was ~16.3 km (allowing for rounding differences), and only five of those were longer than 20 km (Benidorm 1992 at 21.8 km, Madrid 2005 at 21.2 km, Salzburg 2006 at 21.7 km, Innsbruck 2018 at 23.9 km, and Imola 2020 at 28.9 km). This means that Imola is a huge outlier length-wise.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on September 28, 2020, 14:35

No unofficial U23 RR championships.

Why not?

Women's U23:
1st  *de Liane Lippert
2nd   *nz Naimh Fisher-Black
3rd   *fr  Evita Muzic


Men's U23
1st  *ch Marc Hirschi
2nd   *si Tadej Pogacar
3rd  *uk  Tom Pidcock
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 28, 2020, 20:05
It's all about the PCT, CT and club World Championship titles instead.
#pro
1 *no #unox Markus Hoelgaard (36th place)
2 *be #circus Loïc Vliegen (40)
3 *it #vinizabu Giovanni Visconti (43)[1]

#conti
1 *cz #elkov Jakub Otruba (64)[2]
2 *cz #elkov Adam Ťoupalík (71)
3 *pl #wibatech Maciej Paterski (72)

#domestic
1 *gb Tom Pidcock (42)
2 *ee Peeter Pruus, *ie Ben Healy, *gr Polychronis Tzortzakis, *rw Samuel Mugisha (all DNF)
 1. Pidcock finished in 42nd place
 2. Pidcock finished in 42nd place
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 28, 2020, 20:25
pssssst Zimmerman is a neo-pro at CCC not a stagiiaire. :shh
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 29, 2020, 02:17
Alaphilippe attacked on the final climb. Everyone expected it, and still nobody had any reply.
A true #rainbow champion.

Bookkeeping:

And there he is...as always.

The Forrest Gump of cycling.

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(https://www.zikloland.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/alejandro-valverde-seleccion-española-mundial-imola-2020-1.jpg)

So little fanfare, yet such a legacy.
Top Ten...again!

I was a bit stunned when I looked back at previous World Championship Road Race results.
Seven podium spots spanning sixteen years, and eleven Top 10 placings over eighteen years.

*es Alejandro Valverde

2003 2nd
2004 6th
2005 2nd
2006 3rd
2009 9th
2012 3rd
2013 3rd
2014 3rd
2015 5th
2018 1st #rainbow

2020 8th

What else can you say?   :-x

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Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 29, 2020, 09:51
pssssst Zimmerman is a neo-pro at CCC not a stagiiaire. :shh
Shame, that means he loses his 'title'.

Corrected Conti podium:
#conti
1 *cz #elkov Jakub Otruba (64)[1]
2 *cz #elkov Adam Ťoupalík (71)
3 *pl #wibatech Maciej Paterski (72)
 1. Pidcock finished in 42nd place
Title: Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: L'arri on September 29, 2020, 11:22
Can't wait for next year tbh. The circuit is made up of all my local roads. I think I must have ridden every bit of it at one time or another, some of it very often, and let me tell you there are some wonderful little climbs there including one that I haven't done for years just because the road surface was so poor. Perhaps they have redone it since then, I must go check.