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Title: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 19, 2021, 01:14
With all available body parts folded that they actually happen, I hereby launch the Spring Classics game. 


Your team is to be made up of 12 riders, with a maximum total cost of 3000 CQ points during 2020 (you could use  this page (https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/cqRankingRider.asp), setting the year to 2020, or download the 20201231.zip file from here (https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/downloads.asp)), or try my selection spreadsheet poll here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JqjK1WJRglGVHy3Vc4GkloFzSEoB6bNM/view?usp=sharing).


The races that will give points are the one day races in Europe from the Omloop to the Radklassiker, ie:

Date Race Point scale
27-Feb      Omloop Het Nieuwsblad Elite      1.UWT3
27-Feb      Faun-Ardèche Classic      1.PS
28-Feb      Kuurne - Bruxelles - Kuurne      1.PS
28-Feb      Royal Bernard Drome Classic      1.PS
03-Mar      Trofeo Laigueglia      1.PS
06-Mar      Strade Bianche      1.UWT3
07-Mar      GP Industria & Artigianato      1.PS
17-Mar      Danilith Nokere Koerse      1.PS
19-Mar      Bredene Koksijde Classic      1.PS
20-Mar      Milano-Sanremo      1.UWT1
24-Mar      Oxyclean Classic Brugge-De Panne      1.UWT3
26-Mar      E3 Saxo Bank Classic      1.UWT2
28-Mar      Gent-Wevelgem in Flanders Fields      1.UWT2
31-Mar      Dwars door Vlaanderen - A travers la Flandre      1.UWT3
03-Apr      Gran Premio Miguel Indurain      1.PS
04-Apr      Ronde van Vlaanderen - Tour des Flandres      1.UWT1
07-Apr      Scheldeprijs      1.PS
11-Apr      Paris-Roubaix      1.UWT1
14-Apr      De Brabantse Pijl - La Flèche Brabançonne      1.PS
18-Apr      Amstel Gold Race      1.UWT2
21-Apr      La Flèche Wallonne      1.UWT2
25-Apr      Liège-Bastogne-Liège      1.UWT1
01-May      Eschborn-Frankfurt      1.UWT3
CQ has Loire-Atlantique and GP Cholet down as 1.PS races, but PCS, UCI and the races' own websites all have them as 1.1: if it turns out that CQ is correct, I will include them, as I will the GP de Denain if it is uncancelled.

Point scale (full version here (https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rules.asp))
Rank 1st 2nd 3rd 10th last to get >5 pts To get 5 pts
UWT1      280      170      145      62      30th      all finishers
UWT2      220      132      112      46      30th      all finishers
UWT3      180      108      92      36      25th      all finishers
PS      130      78      66      24      20th      top 30

Send your team to me by PM on Cycling News or Velorooms by the flag dropping in the Omloop (its website still doesn't have a timetable, assume about 11am West Europe time) on Saturday 27th Feb.  As ever, please try to send the CQ version of riders' names, and do not put anything else on the same line.  I have sent my team to Comodoro, the first manager to send in their team.

Note the optimism in the thread title: I'm hanging on to the hope of Classics in the Spring.  If fewer than 15 of these actually take place, I will aim to do something similar to last year and have a "Classics at some point in the year" redux version.

Any questions? Just ask.
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 24, 2021, 23:20
I hope teams will come in a rush in the last 2 1/2 days: please remember that this game starts on a Saturday, not a Sunday.


Of the eight teams in so far, all have at least 2 unique picks, and 55 riders have been chosen.  Two of them are on 6 teams, and 2 on 4.



It occurred to me that I have never established a rule in this game for what happens if a team is over budget and not changed before the deadline.  I shall remove the cheapest riders that solve the problem, and make up the team with whoever is picked (on at least one other team in the race) that is allowable.   

So if a team has a total of 3050, and the cheapest rider costs 55 points, I will remove him, and replace him with the highest priced rider who cost 5 points or less (and if there are 2 at the same price, the first of them alphabetically).

If the team total is 3080, and the cheapest two cost 30 and 55 points, I will remove and replace them with a 5 point cost rider and a zero, or a 4 and a one if there is no 5, etc.

If the team cost is 3080, and the cheapest 2 cost 30 and 85, I will leave the 30 point rider in, and replace the 85 with a 5 point man (subject to the above).


But it is very rare that this happens, and I am usually able to alert managers in time if there is a problem.   And if you use the selection tool download that I have now added to the OP, it shouldn't happen at all.
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on February 25, 2021, 07:36
Team JSG is in
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 26, 2021, 20:03
Del over at CN forum reported a problem opening the selection spreadsheet, so I have removed the file from Google Drive and moved it back, which hopefully fixes it.  The location may have changed:  now ​here.​​​ (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1am4KhuK95sm6s4HBAu1Ax21GL2wJwG7y/view?usp=sharing)


I haven't got time to look up the exact start time of the Omloop tomorrow, so let's call it 12 noon UK (also 1200 GMT/UTC) as a deadline.


So if you are in Europe and you are planning a lie in or a morning ride for your Saturday, better get your team in tonight.
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: rote_laterne on February 26, 2021, 20:34
I managed to compose a team.
Good luck to all.
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 27, 2021, 16:07
So here we go: a slightly disappointing 22 teams, but with lots of bargains we could be in for some big scores this year, so long as the races take place.

Teams
Alphabetical order of teams, price order of riders, unique picks with an asterisk.

Amis Velo

   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   JUNGELS Bob   
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   MOSCON Gianni   
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   TERPSTRA Niki   
   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   


Armchair Cyclist

   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   JUNGELS Bob   
   LAPORTE Christophe   
   POLITT Nils   
   SARREAU Marc   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   MOSCON Gianni   
   TERPSTRA Niki   
   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   


Blues in the Bottle

   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   STUYVEN Jasper   
   TEUNS Dylan   
   VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael   
   JUNGELS Bob   
   DEWULF Stan   *
   GOGL Michael   *
   POLITT Nils   
   VAN DER HOORN Taco   *
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VAN DEN BERG Julius   *
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   


Bminchow
   SAGAN Peter   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   WELLENS Tim   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   JUNGELS Bob   
   THEUNS Edward   
   BATTISTELLA Samuele   *
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   BRENNER Marco   


ChrisDK
   LAMPAERT Yves   *
   STUYVEN Jasper   
   MERLIER Tim   *
   TURGIS Anthony   
   DRUCKER Jempy   
   HOFSTETTER Hugo   
   VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael   
   HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose   *
   NEILANDS Krists   *
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias   


Comodoro
   PEDERSEN Mads   
   WOODS Michael   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   POELS Wout   *
   GILBERT Philippe   
   LAPORTE Christophe   
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   RUTSCH Jonas   *
   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   
   HAVIK Piotr   
   REYNDERS Jens   


Del1962
   SAGAN Peter   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   LUTSENKO Alexey   
   COLBRELLI Sonny   *
   NAESEN Oliver   
   CORT NIELSEN Magnus   *
   JUNGELS Bob   
   MOSCON Gianni   
   SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   *
   OSS Daniel   
   ARNDT Nikias   *
   PIDCOCK Thomas   


DJSprtsch
   PEDERSEN Mads   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   LUTSENKO Alexey   
   COQUARD Bryan   *
   TURGIS Anthony   
   VIVIANI Elia   *
   LAPORTE Christophe   
   DE BUYST Jasper   *
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   LAWLESS Christopher   
   SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias   


Googolplex
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   WOODS Michael   
   DRUCKER Jempy   
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   JUNGELS Bob   
   LAPORTE Christophe   
   POLITT Nils   
   DEKKER David   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   LAWLESS Christopher   
   HENTTALA Joonas   *


Josedin***
   PEDERSEN Mads   
   SENECHAL Florian   *
   ASGREEN Kasper   *
   BALLERINI Davide   
   DEVENYNS Dries   *
   TURGIS Anthony   
   BRENNER Marco   
   HAVIK Piotr   
   HERMANS Quinten   
   NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias   
   REYNDERS Jens   
   SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias   


Just Some Guy
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   WELLENS Tim   
   BARDET Romain   *
   THEUNS Edward   
   POLITT Nils   
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   TERPSTRA Niki   
   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   
   HERMANS Quinten   
   REYNDERS Jens   


Kazistuta
   SAGAN Peter   
   MADOUAS Valentin   *
   TEUNS Dylan   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   BOL Cees   *
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   MOSCON Gianni   
   TERPSTRA Niki   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   


Leadbelly
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   MATTHEWS Michael   *
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   LIVYNS Arjen   
   POLITT Nils   
   ROWE Luke   *
   DEKKER David   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   MOSCON Gianni   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   


Madrazo
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   STUYVEN Jasper   
   BALLERINI Davide   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   HOFSTETTER Hugo   
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   GILBERT Philippe   
   LAPORTE Christophe   
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   TERPSTRA Niki   


Mellow Velo
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   WELLENS Tim   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   TURGIS Anthony   
   GILBERT Philippe   
   JUNGELS Bob   
   THEUNS Edward   
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VANSEVENANT Mauri   
   DEBUSSCHERE Jens   *
   HERMANS Quinten   


Otoxiep87
   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
   BENOOT Tiesj   *
   NAESEN Oliver   
   BISSEGGER Stefan   *
   LAPORTE Christophe   
   THEUNS Edward   
   LIVYNS Arjen   
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   MOSCON Gianni   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   


Ray10
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   *
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   GILBERT Philippe   
   LAPORTE Christophe   
   CALMEJANE Lilian   *
   POLITT Nils   
   DEKKER David   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   PIDCOCK Thomas   
   HIVERT Jonathan   *
   EIKING Odd Christian   *


Rote Laterne
   VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   GILBERT Philippe   
   THEUNS Edward   
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   HALVORSEN Kristoffer   *
   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   
   PETIT Adrien   *
   LANGEVELD Sebastian   *


Scrooll07
   SAGAN Peter   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   WELLENS Tim   
   DEGENKOLB John   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   VERMEERSCH Florian   *
   TEUNISSEN Mike   *
   PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   VERMAERKE Kevin   *
   PICCOLO Andrea   *
   VERSCHAEVE Viktor   *


Search
   WOODS Michael   
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   WELLENS Tim   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   LAPORTE Christophe   
   BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   *
   POLITT Nils   
   SARREAU Marc   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   KREUZIGER Roman   *


SemirS
   VAN AVERMAET Greg   
   WELLENS Tim   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   STYBAR Zdenek   
   GILBERT Philippe   
   THEUNS Edward   
   DILLIER Silvan   *
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   OSS Daniel   


Triley
   PEDERSEN Mads   
   BETTIOL Alberto   
   DEGENKOLB John   
   TRENTIN Matteo   
   NAESEN Oliver   
   MOHORIC Matej   *
   GILBERT Philippe   
   POLITT Nils   
   VANMARCKE Sep   
   JORGENSON Matteo   
   TERPSTRA Niki   
   DE PLUS Laurens   *


Josedin didn't actually pick half of that team, but was well over budget.  So much so that even I as the legislator was unsure how the rules I set out above applied.  But on taking out the six cheapest riders brought the team cost down to 2997, and although there were no 1, 2 or 3 pointers chosen, there were 6 freebies, so I put those in: I think that is the implication of what I described.  The alternative would have been to remove the cheapest rider who cost more than the excess spend, and substitute in the most expensive selected rider with the remaining budget.  I offered Josedin the choice, but haven't heard back yet.  The alternative is in the spreadsheet as JosedinB.
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 27, 2021, 17:21
Riders

Sorted by number of teams
18:   POLITT Nils, VANMARCKE Sep
13:   VAN AVERMAET Greg
12:   NAESEN Oliver
8:   LAPORTE Christophe
7:   GILBERT Philippe, JUNGELS Bob, PIDCOCK Thomas, STYBAR Zdenek
6:   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl, MOSCON Gianni, TERPSTRA Niki, THEUNS Edward, VAN DER POEL Mathieu, VANSEVENANT Mauri, WELLENS Tim

The collective team will consist of the nine riders on at least 7 teams, plus 3/7 of the total of the seven riders on 6 teams.  That comes in quite a bit below 3000 points, but any combination of the 6 without MvdP was much lower, and any with him was over.

5:   TRENTIN Matteo
4:   ALAPHILIPPE Julian, GARCIA CORTINA Ivan, JORGENSON Matteo, PEDERSEN Mads, SAGAN Peter, TURGIS Anthony
3:   DEKKER David, HERMANS Quinten, REYNDERS Jens, STUYVEN Jasper, WOODS Michael
2:   BALLERINI Davide, BETTIOL Alberto, BRENNER Marco, DEGENKOLB John, DRUCKER Jempy, HAVIK Piotr, HOFSTETTER Hugo, LAWLESS Christopher, LIVYNS Arjen, LUTSENKO Alexey, NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias, OSS Daniel, PLANCKAERT Baptiste,
SARREAU Marc, SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias, TEUNS Dylan, VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 27, 2021, 23:54
Josedin has asked to take option B, so he gets his cheap picks back and loses a unique pick in Kasper Asgreen and receives (not his choice) Bob Jungels.

His team is now:
PEDERSEN Mads   
SENECHAL Florian   *
JUNGELS Bob   
BALLERINI Davide   
DEVENYNS Dries   *
TURGIS Anthony   
LIVYNS Arjen   
POLITT Nils   
DEKKER David   
VANMARCKE Sep   
PIDCOCK Thomas   
VANSEVENANT Mauri   

That means that BRENNER Marco, HAVIK Piotr, NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias, SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias become unique picks for Bminchow, Comodoro, ChrisDK and DJSprtsch respectively.  It also means that Vansevanant moves into the Collective Wisdom team in his own right, and the remainder of the score is 1/3 of the total of the remaining six men on six teams.

Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 28, 2021, 01:52
Team popularity

rank Team Popularity Unique picks members of Coll Wisdom
1      AmisVelo      111      0      7
2      Armchair      110      0      8
3      Madrazo      102      0      7
4      SemirS      99      1      7
5      RoteLaterne      98      3      7
6      MellowVelo      97      1      7
7      Search      95      2      6
8      Bminchow      94      2      6
9      Otoxiep87      93      2      6
10      Leadbelly      89      2      5
11      Kazistuta      86      2      5
12      Googolplex      85      1      6
13      Comodoro      84      3      5
14      Ray10      82      4      6
14      Triley36      82      2      4
16      Josedin      80      2      5
17      JustSomeGuy      77      1      5
18      DJSprtsch      75      4      4
19      Blues_in_the_Bottle      70      4      4
20      Scrool07      63      5      3
21      Del1962      59      4      4
22      ChrisDK      29      5      1
      CollectiveWisdom      120      0      12

There is a tab for the similarity of teams (whence the final column above).  Armchair and Amis Velo share 8 riders, and the following combinations share 7:
Amis Velo and Kazistuta
Armchair and Madrazo
Armchair and Otoxiep
Armchair and Search
Madrazo and Search
Rote Laterne and SemirS

while there are no less than 11 teams with which ChrisDK's selection has nothing in common, any pair of teams that does not include ChrisDK has at least one overlap.


When the spreadsheet is put up, you will see that there are columns and placeholders for a "So Last Year" team, and scores of riders in this set of races last year.  I thought I had calculated these, but mistakes came to light, so I am ignoring that for this year, but keeping the facility in the spreadsheet, because I will reuse the formatting next year.

And when you see the spreadsheet (I will put up the link after I have processed today's races, but that will have to wait for tomorrow), you will notice several columns consisting purely of commas: that is so that I can produce tables here.
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 28, 2021, 12:24
Major Purchases

Even in the year following 2020, while so many riders are available at ridiculously low prices, the riders who we spend most on are a major part of what makes for success or failiure in the game.  So the picks of more than 500 points that we have are:

Van der Poel with Kragh: Ray10
   with GvA: Amis Velo, JSG, Rote Laterne
   with Stuyven: Blues in the Bottle
   only: Mellow Velo
      
Alaphilippe with Woods: Googolplex
   with Matthews and GvA: Leadbelly
   with Benoot: Otoxiep87
   with GvA: Armchair
      
Sagan with GvA: Bminchow, Scrooll, Del
   only: Kazistuta
      
Pedersen   with Senechal: Josedin   
   with Woods and GvA: Comodoro
   with GvA: DJSprtsch
   only: Triley36
      
Woods with GvA: Search

Lampaert with Stuyven: ChrisDK

GvA with Stuyven: Madrazo
   only: SemirS

And for the same reason that rare picks are noteworthy, rare misses might be too: JSG didn't select Vanmarcke, Scrooll overlooked Politt, and both Del and ChrisDK decided against both of those very popular picks.
 
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 28, 2021, 13:15
So finally we actually get to the races.  I'll start with the simpler of yesterday's events:

Race 1; Ardeche Classic

Jonathan Hivert came 9th, scoring 28 CQ points for the only manager who picked him, Ray 10.
He was the only rider in the first 30, the point scorers, selected for the game.

errrm, standings
Ray10   28
Everyone else   0


In the Green Jersey competition, there are just as many points available in a 1.Pro race like this as there are in the monuments.  Points are distributed as CQ points are for a stage in the Tour de France: 80 for the winner, then 50, 35, 25, 15 down to 1 for 10th: points for a shared position are shared.  A manager's position in each race is the total of all his scorers.

So here Ray would get 80 points for winning, and everyone else would get 6.95 ( a 1/21 share of the total points 2nd to 10th).  To keep the numbers a bit neater, I will take 6.95 off everybody, including Ray, who thereby has a 73.05 to 0 lead over the field.

You don't really need to see that on a table do you?
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: just some guy on February 28, 2021, 14:34
Sep wasn't a miss FWIW a conscious decision :lol
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 28, 2021, 14:44
Race 2: Omloop het Nieuwsblad

Riders picked for the game
Race Pos'n Pts Teams
1      BALLERINI Davide      180      2 (Josedin and Madrazo)
3      VANMARCKE Sep      92      19
5      GILBERT Philippe      70      7
7      SENECHAL Florian      54      1 (Josedin)
8      TRENTIN Matteo      46      5
10      POLITT Nils      36      19
11      GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      30      4
13      LAPORTE Christophe      24      8
14      DILLIER Silvan      22      1
15      TURGIS Anthony      20      4
16      COQUARD Bryan      18      1
19      NAESEN Oliver      12      12
23      ANDERSEN Søren Kragh      8      1
24      WELLENS Tim      7      6
and 26 other riders chosen for the game get 5 points for finishing.

Rank Team Points Main scorersGreen pts
1      Madrazo      464      Ballerini/Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Politt/Garcia      80
2      Josedin      397   Ballerini/Vanmarcke/Senechal/Politt         50
3      SemirS      305         Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Trentin/Politt   35
4      Triley36      266      Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Trentin/Politt      25
5      MellowVelo      247            15
6      Comodoro      242            10
7      Ray10      240            4
7      RoteLaterne      240            4
9      Kazistuta      231            2
10      Bminchow      226            1
11      Search      216            
12      AmisVelo      206            
13      DJSprtsch      200            
14      Otoxiep87      199            
15      Armchair      194            
16      Googolplex      172            
17      Blues_in_the_Bottle      153            
17      Leadbelly      153            
19      Scrool07      116            
20      JustSomeGuy      73            
21      ChrisDK      40            
22      Del1962      32            
      CollectiveWisdom      258         

In overall standings, Ray10 is 4th with 268, and everyone else is as they appear here (but one place lower for those 4th to 7th in this list)

And similarly, on Green points, Ray is second with 77.05, and everyone else's total is as here.
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 28, 2021, 17:41
Race 3: Drome Classic

He's only gone and done it again: another UP for Ray 10 is the only scorer.
Odd Christian Eiking gets 5 points for 21st place, and Ray gets those 5 main game points and 73.05 green points again.

Standings:
(no real change, but a chance to test changes in the spreadsheet)
Rank Team Points
1      Madrazo      464
2      Josedin      397
3      SemirS      305
5      Triley36      266
6      MellowVelo      247
7      Comodoro      242
4      Ray10      273
8      RoteLaterne      240
9      Kazistuta      231
10      Bminchow      226
11      Search      216
12      AmisVelo      206
13      DJSprtsch      200
14      Otoxiep87      199
15      Armchair      194
16      Googolplex      172
17      Blues_in_the_Bottle      153
17      Leadbelly      153
19      Scrool07      116
20      JustSomeGuy      73
21      ChrisDK      40
22      Del1962      32
      CollectiveWisdom      258

Green points
Ray seems to have found a profitable policy of getting the points on minor races
1 Ray10 150.1
2      Madrazo   80
3      Josedin   50
4      SemirS   35
5      Triley36   25
6      MellowVelo   15
7      Comodoro   10
8      RoteLaterne   4
9      Kazistuta   2
10      Bminchow   1

Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 28, 2021, 21:37
Race 4: Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne

Race Pos'n Pts Teams
1      PEDERSEN Mads      130      4
2      TURGIS Anthony      78      4
3      PIDCOCK Thomas      66      8
4      TRENTIN Matteo      58      5
6      COLBRELLI Sonny      46      1
7      POLITT Nils      40      19
8      VAN AVERMAET Greg      34      13
12      VAN DER POEL Mathieu      18      6
15      JANSEN Amund Grøndahl      12      6
16      NAESEN Oliver      10      12
17      DEGENKOLB John      9      2
19      LIVYNS Arjen      7      3
21      BENOOT Tiesj      5      1
22      STUYVEN Jasper      5      3
27      GOGL Michael      5      1
28      ANDERSEN Søren Kragh      5      1
30      TEUNS Dylan      5      2

Josedin got the entire podium (solution B to his being overbudget was definitely a good idea)
This race Main scorers Green points
1      Josedin      321   Pedersen/Turgis/Pidcock/Politt      80
2      DJSprtsch      282   Pedersen/Turgis/Politt/van Avermaet         50
3      Triley36      247   Pedersen/Trentin/Politt      35
4      Comodoro      216   Pedersen/Politt/van Avermaet         25
5      Bminchow      198   Pidcock/Trentin/Politt/van Avermaet   15
6      AmisVelo      172            10
7      JustSomeGuy      170            5
8      Del1962      156            3
9      Leadbelly      147            2
10      MellowVelo      146            1
11      SemirS      142            
12      Otoxiep87      140            
13      Ray10      129            
14      RoteLaterne      114            
15      Kazistuta      113            
16      Googolplex      106            
17      Armchair      96            
18      Madrazo      89            
19      Search      84            
20      ChrisDK      83            
21      Blues_in_the_Bottle      73            
22      Scrool07      53            
      CollectiveWisdom      160         

Green Jersey
Green points change in rank
1      Ray10      150.1      0
2      Josedin      130      1
3      Madrazo      80      -1
4      Triley36      60      1
5      DJSprtsch      50      6
6      Comodoro      35      1
6      SemirS      35      -2
8      Bminchow      16      2
8      MellowVelo      16      -2
10      AmisVelo      10      1
11      JustSomeGuy      5      0
12      RoteLaterne      4      -4
13      Del1962      3      -2
14      Leadbelly      2      -3
14      Kazistuta      2      -5
16      The rest      0      -5

Standings

Rank Team Points Change in rank
1      Josedin      718      1
2      Madrazo      553      -1
3      Triley36      513      2
4      DJSprtsch      482      9
5      Comodoro      458      2
6      SemirS      447      -3
7      Bminchow      424      3
8      Ray10      402      -4
9      MellowVelo      393      -3
10      AmisVelo      378      2
11      RoteLaterne      354      -3
12      Kazistuta      344      -3
13      Otoxiep87      339      1
14      Leadbelly      300      3
14      Search      300      -3
16      Armchair      290      -1
17      Googolplex      278      -1
18      JustSomeGuy      243      2
19      Blues_in_the_Bottle      226      -2
20      Del1962      188      2
21      Scrool07      169      -2
22      ChrisDK      123      -1
      CollectiveWisdom      418   

I wish Le Samyn on Tuesday were a 1.Pro race so that I could include it here, but instead the next instalment will be Laigueglia on Wednesday.  That usually happens outside the timeframe of this game, so it is unusual to be including it.  Ray 10 will probably have a unique pick in the startlist somewhere.
Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on February 28, 2021, 22:23
And after 4 events, the state of the battle of the forums is


CN Forumites (Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Comodoro, Del1962, DJSprtsch, Googolplex, Kazistuta, Madrazo, Ray10, Scrooll07, SemirS, Triley36)  374
Team Velorooms (AmisVelo, ChrisDK, Josedin, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, MellowVelo, Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne, Search) 350

And the spreadsheet is to be found, hopefully, here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1khCdUqtK40lyyf_c82aLu6R5EztnJQ2h/view?usp=sharing).

Title: Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
Post by: Armchair Cyclist on March 03, 2021, 22:12
Race 5   Trofeo Laigueglia

One of the keys to this game is the balance between cobbled specialists and those for the hilly races.  If many people had been aiming for big scorers in the Ardennes, we might have seen more points here today.

Those relevant to the game:
Race Pos'n Pts Teams
3      VANSEVENANT Mauri      66      7
12      MADOUAS Valentin      18      1
15      DEVENYNS Dries      12      1
16      MOHORIC Matej      10      1

I'll take out the column for which riders yielded the points: it can easily be worked out.  This time I did give the large number of low scorers some decimal shrapnel of remaining points.
This race Green points
1      Kazistuta      84      80
2      Josedin      78      50
3      AmisVelo      66      18
3      Blues_in_the_Bottle      66      18
3      ChrisDK      66      18
3      Leadbelly      66      18
3      MellowVelo      66      18
8      Triley36      10      3
9      The rest   0      0.21
      CollectiveWisdom      66         

Green Jersey
Green points change in rank
1      Josedin      180      1
2      Ray10      150.31      -1
3      Kazistuta      82      11
4      Madrazo      80.21      -1
5      Triley36      63      -1
6      DJSprtsch      50.21      -1
7      Comodoro      35.21      -1
7      SemirS      35.21      -1
9      MellowVelo      34      -1
10      AmisVelo      28      0
11      Leadbelly      20      3
12      Blues_in_the_Bottle      18      4
12      ChrisDK      18      4
14      Bminchow      16.21      -6
15      JustSomeGuy      5.21      -4
16      RoteLaterne      4.21      -4
17      Del1962      3.21      -4
18      Armchair      0.21      -2
18      Googolplex      0.21      -2
18      Otoxiep87      0.21      -2
18      Scrool07      0.21      -2
18      Search      0.21      -2


Standings
Rank Team Points Change in rank
1      Josedin      796      0
2      Madrazo      553      0
3      Triley36      523      0
4      DJSprtsch      482      0
5      MellowVelo      459      4
6      Comodoro      458      -1
7      SemirS      447      -1
8      AmisVelo      444      2
9      Kazistuta      428      3
10      Bminchow      424      -3
11      Ray10      402      -3
12      Leadbelly      366      2
13      RoteLaterne      354      -2
14      Otoxiep87      339      -1
15      Search      300      -1
16      Blues_in_the_Bottle      292      3
17      Armchair      290      -1
18      Googolplex      278      -1
19      JustSomeGuy      243      -1
20      ChrisDK      189      2
21      Del1962      188      -1
22      Scrool07      169      -1
      CollectiveWisdom      484   


Less than a point between the forums:
CN  387.0         VR 387.8


Staying in Italy for two more races at the weekend.