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Professional Cycling => Men's Road Cycling => Topic started by: Leadbelly on December 15, 2021, 18:38

Title: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on December 15, 2021, 18:38
https://twitter.com/IntermarcheWG/status/1471025324846690305

In the meantime (ie. in 2022) Mihkels will ride for Ampler and De Pooter with Hagens Berman.

There are a few other transfers already known:

Frigo -------> #israel

Martin Lopez ------> #astana (but not 100% confirmed)

Ciuccarelli --------> #androni (however we thought the same about Conca and Colleoni)
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on April 12, 2022, 18:27
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1513778065175977986

Tratters ---------> #jumbo ?
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: LukasCPH on April 13, 2022, 12:00
Tratters ---------> #jumbo ?
Rogla getting some *si support, makes sense.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on April 14, 2022, 19:40
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1514657588645961731

DVB -------> #jumbo ?

Other options are available too.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on April 19, 2022, 20:11
https://twitter.com/Lotto_Soudal/status/1516418721585246208

The WorldTeam bit needs an asterisk.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on April 21, 2022, 20:51
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1517038759073792000

Teuns -------->  #lotto or #iwg ?
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on April 27, 2022, 08:34
Teuns -------->  #lotto or #iwg ?

today's Het Nieuwsblad reports, that he is highly likely to leave Bahrain at least, especially now after being forced to ride Roubaix and Tour de Romandie.

Also some #gazprom news: according to his brother, Mathias Vacek has signed a WT deal for the coming two years. Earlier rumours said that Trek was interested.

(tbc) #gazprom Mathias Vacek --> #trek Trek Segafredo

https://bici.pro/news/politica/casa-vacek-karel-parla-momenti-duri-mathias/

That's good news for him, but I guess it means he'll stay without a contract for the moment, unless some conti team is willing to pick him up for those couple of months only. I also don't think he is eligible to become a stagiare anymore?!
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on April 28, 2022, 09:43
today's Het Nieuwsblad reports, that he is highly likely to leave Bahrain at least, especially now after being forced to ride Roubaix and Tour de Romandie.

a little update on this today: #lotto is still very interested, but also a reunion with former BMC boss Rik Verbrugghe at #israel is an option.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on April 28, 2022, 18:58
a reunion with former BMC boss Rik Verbrugghe at #israel is an option.

The threat of relegation would put on a dampener on that I think. Sure, any rider signing for them (or Lotto) might have a clause letting them not have to join if they aren't WT in 2023, but who wants to go looking for another team in October when most business is already done and wage budgets are limited.

Of course some riders might not mind not being WT especially if the money is good (Cousin Dan signed up when he thought they were gonna be PCT). Wildcards for 1-day races wouldn't be an issue and even a Tour invite wouldn't be out of the question (B&B aren't exactly setting the world alight in 2022).
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: LukasCPH on April 29, 2022, 22:01
I also don't think he is eligible to become a stagiare anymore?!
He isn't. Pro contract in 2021 (and the first months of 2022), so no more stagiairing for Mathias Vacek.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on May 09, 2022, 20:29
There are a few other transfers already known:

Frigo -------> #israel

https://twitter.com/IsraelPremTech/status/1523671744762236930

Confirmation and "in the coming weeks, we will be announcing more young talent who will step up alongside Marco".

Gee would be the obvious one based on his Gran Camino performance. Hollyman, Goldstein and Puppio should be in the mix as well.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on May 10, 2022, 18:31
DVB -------> #jumbo ?

Looking more and more likely.

However Arensman, who was also rumoured to the Dutch team, could be heading elsewhere in the transfer carousel.....

https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1524023577661644801


Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on May 12, 2022, 18:01
There aren't many transfers stories about that don't involved Ineos or Jumbo.

https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1524690541228826625

BikeExchange are also interested. The Australian team would also like to re-unite the Yateseseses.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on May 16, 2022, 12:02
https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1524985536930365442

So that's Martinez, Carapaz and Rodriguez all heading to Movistar. :P

https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1526071612042362880
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: LukasCPH on May 16, 2022, 20:04
So that's Martinez, Carapaz and Rodriguez all heading to Movistar. :P
I'll believe it when I see it. :-x
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on May 20, 2022, 19:05
 #israel #2

https://twitter.com/IsraelPremTech/status/1527590362679758848

I'll believe it when I see it. :-x

....and all have the same agent. He's up to his usual games. :shh
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on May 23, 2022, 19:22
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1528735653088968706

Quintana ---------> #astana ?

Struggling to pay salaries on time and MAL + Quintana doesn't look like a cooperative combo, but you never know.

https://twitter.com/RenaudB31/status/1528772241466568704

Martin ----------> #arkea ?

The replacement?
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on May 24, 2022, 08:02
(tbc) #vlaanderen Jens Reynders --> #uae UAE Team Emirates

https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/jens-reynders-heeft-aanbod-uae-emirates-op-zak-klaar-voor-een-stap-hogerop/

And apparently Davide Rebellin has left Work Service. PCS lists him as retired, but I don't think it's true. He initially wanted to come to Sibiu at least
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: LukasCPH on May 25, 2022, 07:46
Quintana ---------> #astana ?

Struggling to pay salaries on time and MAL + Quintana doesn't look like a cooperative combo, but you never know.
Don't see this happening, for the above reasons. Also, Nairo seems to be happy at #arkea, they are destined for a WT licence - why change teams?
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on May 26, 2022, 08:40
https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1529341641017942019

I'd be surprised if Quick-Step/Bakala weren't after him as well.

Nairo seems to be happy at #arkea, they are destined for a WT licence - why change teams?

It's Mr Acquadro again. :lol
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on May 26, 2022, 10:11
there's an article about Hirt on Idnes, but unfortunately behind a paywall

https://www.idnes.cz/sport/cyklistika/jan-hirt-giro-budoucnost.A220525_203124_cyklistika_ten

from what I can see in the preview on Google, it also links him towards BikeExchange, but apparently mainly because they congratulated him for his win on their social media
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on May 30, 2022, 09:17
Bauke will stay around (and with #trek) for quite another while

https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1531185217951739904
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on May 31, 2022, 19:03
https://twitter.com/tv2sport/status/1530545786009812994

Pedersen --------> #unox ?

https://twitter.com/IsraelPremTech/status/1531545909242146816

#israel #3

Volta stage winner of course.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: LukasCPH on May 31, 2022, 22:45
https://twitter.com/tv2sport/status/1530545786009812994

Pedersen --------> #unox ?
I like the idea, but I just can't see it happening.

Some more analysis in the same vein from *no journo Jarle Fredagsvik in this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/Fredagsvik/status/1530803316804014080
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on June 02, 2022, 12:00
https://twitter.com/tuttobiciweb_it/status/1532298196629725184

Hirt + Malucelli ---------> #quickstep ?

The Italian could have a 2022 sojourn with ICA.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on June 11, 2022, 05:25
https://twitter.com/WielerFlitsBE/status/1535213208742547457

Groves --------> #alpecin ?

Replacement for Merlier.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on June 11, 2022, 05:33
https://twitter.com/jauzy19/status/1535325568689967107

Gautherat + Turgis + Kristoff ---------> #ag2r ?

I'm sure I read though that Kristoff was extending (or had been offered an extension) at Intermarche, and why not Turgis to Deceuninck as they seek to refresh their classics team.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: LukasCPH on June 13, 2022, 12:32
I'm sure I read though that Kristoff was extending (or had been offered an extension) at Intermarche
Kristoff has been offered an extension, but he his agent is currently scouting the market.
#ag2r and #unox have been mentioned.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on June 20, 2022, 20:31
https://twitter.com/tv2sport/status/1538893689950543879

According to them an agreement has been reached for a 3-yr deal.

Quote
What does this do to Uno-X's opportunities to participate in the Tour and the biggest races?

This strengthens their chances. There will be another argument for including Uno-X, so those negotiations will be easier. The tour organizer will also see that they raise their ambitions and are in development. The combination of Kristoff and Halland Johannessen will only help them to be invited to the big races.

Also, I see the signing as an statement of intent which they can utilise to attract other successful Scandi riders, it's not just a team for promising youngsters and WT rejects.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on June 20, 2022, 20:40
https://twitter.com/velonews/status/1538003318953234432

Carapaz ----------> #ef ?

Again the deal is seemingly done. GT (of his choosing) leadership the major carrot. The surprise is that EF can afford him.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on June 22, 2022, 17:51
(tbc) #dsm SKA --> #alpecin Alpecin-Deceuninck

https://www.velonews.com/events/tour-de-france/soren-kragh-andersen-to-part-ways-with-team-dsm-and-miss-tour-de-france/

this means no Tour for him, of course :dizzy

"We have seen in the past how important it is to have a fully committed team for the biggest goals. The team we have selected are motivated to go all towards the same goal."
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on June 24, 2022, 11:58
#bikeexchange Groves and #iwg Quinten Hermans are also off to #alpecin Alpecin

https://twitter.com/dnlbenson/status/1540273364199247872

looks like Wanty had to go all in on Girmay. Can't see many other reasons at least for Quinten, and also guys like Hirt & Kristoff to leave the team.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 05, 2022, 18:37
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1544184339935760384

Livyns ---------> #lotto ?

Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 07, 2022, 08:58
https://twitter.com/PhilippePriser/status/1544921924668719110

Shampoo --------> #arkea ?

Not good for AG2R if they're losing their best French talent.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on July 14, 2022, 09:55
#bikeexchange adds some prologue-power

https://twitter.com/jauzy19/status/1547493605966741504
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 18, 2022, 08:15
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1548667428154081282

Kelderman ----------> #jumbo ? (again)
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on July 18, 2022, 08:20
an apparently Matthews has an offer from #bbhotels. They (with a new sponsor on board) also wanted Teuns, but he said no.

https://www.hln.be/wielrennen/michael-matthews-zaterdag-nog-ritwinnaar-in-de-tour-op-weg-naar-benb-hotels~a5e013e5/
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 19, 2022, 08:39
https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1549277508910170117

There was a rumour a week or two ago that he was unhappy with Groupama for some unspecified reason. Purportedly under contract for 2023 anyway.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on July 19, 2022, 09:14
There was a rumour a week or two ago that he was unhappy with Groupama for some unspecified reason. Purportedly under contract for 2023 anyway.

it's about "appreciation", Küng said in Swiss media, and that he hopes that Groupama "follows suit". So it's mainly about money, by the look of it.

And he is under contract (until 2024) indeed, but it allows him to opt-out at the end of 2022.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 19, 2022, 13:26
it's about "appreciation", Küng said in Swiss media, and that he hopes that Groupama "follows suit". So it's mainly about money, by the look of it.

And he is under contract (until 2024) indeed, but it allows him to opt-out at the end of 2022.

I don't know what he's on currently, but looking at his results in the past 12 months especially, he certainly deserves to be paid a fair amount. He's at his peak age-wise, so why not ask for the "big" contract to set him up for life.

---------------------------------------

https://twitter.com/sporza_koers/status/1549332690985533442

Meanwhile Teuns has made his decision already.

Quote
"Whether I will drive for a supermarket or for an old acquaintance? Who's to say? The future will tell."

The article only mentions IPT and B&B, but I'm thinking one of the other teams he was linked with earlier in the year - Intermarche. Guaranteed WT going forward now and that seemed a big thing for Dylan and his manager. Kristoff/Pasqua/Hermans all leaving frees up some roster space and some salary (they can't have splashed everything on Girmay).
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 21, 2022, 11:30
Chicken or egg?

https://twitter.com/VeloClubDuNet/status/1550033928433635329

Rodriguez ---------> #arkea ?

Had he signed already for Arkea and that's why he didn't get selected for the Tour, or did his non-selection make him look for a ride elsewhere? Either way the Total team has looked very weak on the climbing days. His presence would surely have helped get them noticed a bit more.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 21, 2022, 12:49
https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1550077342177001479

Bol ----------> #bbhotels ?
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 22, 2022, 08:04
https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1549277508910170117

There was a rumour a week or two ago that he (Kung) was unhappy with Groupama for some unspecified reason. Purportedly under contract for 2023 anyway.

https://twitter.com/jauzy19/status/1550268450186174464

Add Trek into the equation.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on July 22, 2022, 08:09
in his podcast, #bora Ralph Denk said that Küng is not really an option for Bora due to budget limitations. If Kelderman leaves, they plan to replace him with another experienced climber, and that would leave no money for Küng.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 22, 2022, 20:30
Add Trek into the equation.

https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1550538585740177408

...and DSM.

I know which one I'd be picking. The one with a strong classics team already, but no GC guys. Support on one hand and freedom in the other.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 23, 2022, 12:49
https://twitter.com/GreenEDGEteam/status/1550777860759212035

A couple of new signings.

Plus Yates extended. I like how he told of his time on the team "I’ve had a lot of success and many failures".
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 25, 2022, 20:11
Quite a bit of news to catch up on.

https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/mike-teunissen-nadert-akkoord-met-intermarche-wanty-gobert/

Teunissen --------> #iwg ?

Very good signing if it comes true. Slightly less good might be their rumoured signing of Rui Costa.

https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1551292723503800321

Valter ----------> #jumbo ?

I completely missed his fourth at SB this year. Gloag (not such a great 2022) is also thought to be heading to the Dutch team.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on July 28, 2022, 14:04
https://twitter.com/m_x_m_c_r/status/1552402640964911107

basically same as last year :D. Back then he lost out against Alexys Brunel.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 29, 2022, 08:53
https://twitter.com/jauzy19/status/1552648296363020290

His illness prevented him making a mark at Sibiu, but he had obviously done enough previously to catch some other eyes too.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on July 29, 2022, 19:36
https://ro-tvonline.com/whos-moving-major-teams-reshuffling-deck-in-very-active-2023-rider-transfer-market/

Good round-up of what's happening and rumoured as we approach the date when things can be announced.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: LukasCPH on August 01, 2022, 07:12
First confirmed transfer:
Kristoff #intermarche --> #unox

https://twitter.com/UnoXteam/status/1553983955447193600
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: DJW on August 01, 2022, 11:52
https://twitter.com/INEOSGrenadiers/status/1554029180064616448

Leo Hayter  #axeon --->  #ineos   joining as stagiaire then staying with Ineos as pro until 2025
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: t-72 on August 01, 2022, 17:44
First confirmed transfer:
Kristoff #intermarche --> #unox

https://twitter.com/UnoXteam/status/1553983955447193600

Quite exciting news - but it is not clear what kind of role he will have with the new team. The #unox leadout train this year is at their best able to deliver a top sprinter in a good position to start the sprint, but next year, is Kristoff going to be a top sprinter?

In interviews earlier in his career, Kristoff has said that he could see himself as a leadout rider for a better sprinter, with some more opportunities in the classics for himself. Currently the team doesn´t have that sprinter that is better than Kristoff and I don´t think it will be Kristoffer Halvorsen revival time again? There´s Wærenskjold, who might take a step up, but that concept is far from proven at WT level.

In the classics they probably have a team good enough to podium even in important races, already, before Kristoff joins. Tactically, it is not clear at all how they are going to put these puzzle pieces together.

It is easier to see that the team will benefit from having Kristoff and Stein Ørn onboard in terms of improving training and preparation (although their methods sometimes appear a bit old school, much focus on long days at moderate intensity.)

In interviews, Kristoff has said this was a now or never for him with respect to cycling on a Norwegian team. He might actually be motivated by the opportunity to pass on the opportunities, and to give something back to the Norwegian cycling community.
Unlike the Monaco-based tax refugee Thor Hushovd, Kristoff has remained a Norwegian  tax payer throughout his career[1]. Although his former choices of employers doesn´t look like the hit list of the politically correct, he never came across as an individual without care for social responsibility either. Now he has the plans land out for the next 3 years (!) of labor. It doesn´t sound like early retirement is on the books.
 1. (Same goes for Edvald Boasson Hagen)
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: LukasCPH on August 04, 2022, 08:47
In interviews, Kristoff has said this was a now or never for him with respect to cycling on a Norwegian team. He might actually be motivated by the opportunity to pass on the opportunities, and to give something back to the Norwegian cycling community.
Personally, I think that this is the plan.
Kristoff is the star that the team didn't have this year, leading to the perpetually-conservative ASO overlooking them for a Tour wildcard that would have made perfect sense with the *dk Grand Départ. 2023, with Kristoff on the roster and the team having proven itself, including at the ASO-run Dauphiné, a Tour wildcard is much more likely.

In addition, I believe that Kristoff is still that little bit better than e.g. Skaarseth or Tiller in the classics and can pull off some results there.

Finally, he will be a mentor figure trying to teach the younger riders from his wealth of experience at the highest level.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: t-72 on August 04, 2022, 19:25
The #unox classics squad will no doubt get a boost with Kristoff, but if that means Kristoff will get the best results? Remains to be seen! Ferdinand the bull still seems like he gets one year better every year, Kristoff might have passed the point where that doesn´t apply  :shh

The key point is that it won´t be a one-shot squad, they will have some strength in numbers. 
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Servais Knavendish on August 04, 2022, 22:25
Kristoff feels like a testimonial move - he's occaisionally there or there abouts but more of a concern to Rob Hatch than the other riders - good luck to him it's been a good career.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on August 08, 2022, 08:37
#vlaanderen Jens Reynders --> #israel Israel - Premier Tech

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20220807_94094710

There were reports about him having an offer from UAE back in May, but apparently went for IPT in the end.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Leadbelly on August 08, 2022, 18:18
He seems to have been linked with a move to somewhere bigger for a couple of years.

I'm not convinced he's any better than Capiot/Menten/Allegaert/Van Gestel/De Gendt etc etc etc, but he'll densify the classics team and bring the average age down a bit! TVA replacement you would guess.
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: search on August 10, 2022, 10:09
#bora Felix Großschartner --> #uae UAE Team Emirates

Matxin will learn his name sooner or later, I guess

https://twitter.com/Matxin_/status/1557290199293562881

Bora managed to get #ag2r Jungels on board instead:

https://www.bora-hansgrohe.com/en/news/argonnews202208bob/argonnews202208bob/668459334
Title: Re: Mens' Transfers and Rumours 2022-23
Post by: Servais Knavendish on August 10, 2022, 20:55
Nice spoof on Twitter from a fake 'Bota'Hansgrohe account - announcing signing of Cav as part of 'Project 35' - if only it were so!