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Tour de France 2022 - Stages & Discussion - Week 1



Stage Type Date Start / Finish Distance
1      #tt      Fri. 07/01       Copenhague > Copenhague      13.2 km
2      #flat      Sat. 07/02      Roskilde > Nyborg      202.5 km
3      #flat      Sun. 07/03      Vejle > Sønderborg      182.0 km
4      #cobbles      Tue. 07/04      Dunkerque > Calais      171.5 km
5      #flat      Wed. 07/05      Lille Métropole > Arenberg Porte du Hainaut      154.0 km
6      #flat      Thu. 07/06      Binche > Longwy      220.0 km
7      #med      Fri. 07/07      Tomblaine > La Super Planche des Belles Filles      176.5 km
8      #flat      Sat. 07/08      Dole > Lausanne      186.5 km
9      #mountain      Sun. 07/09      Châtel Les Portes du Soleil      193.0 km

I hear LukasCPH will be around for LetourCPH. Let's hope for some insights :)
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    Stage 1: Friday, July 1, Copenhagen - Copenhagen, ITT 13km

    Start Time 16-00CET

    13,2 km on the streets of Copenhagen to decide the first maillot jaune of the 2022 edition of the Tour de France. The course is completely flat, and although it has 25 turns it’s not too technical, with most of the trial raced on wide boulevards and city streets.


    The trickiest section is two-thirds the way through when the course turns right into Langelinie Park on narrow roads that take the course past Copenhagen’s signature sight, The Little Mermaid, the 4-foot-high statue portraying the 1837 Hans Christian Andersen fairytale.



    Final Kms



    Ganna is the overwhelming favourite, but Wout van Aert shouldn’t be far, above all if wet.
    (PCS Rankings)
    1 Küng Stefan
    2 Roglič Primož
    3 Ganna Filippo
    4 van Aert Wout
    5 Asgreen Kasper
    6 Bissegger Stefan
    7 Pogačar Tadej
    8 Vingegaard Jonas
    9 van der Poel Mathieu
    10 Cattaneo Mattia
    11 Cort Magnus
    12 Thomas Geraint
    13 Bjerg Mikkel
    14 Vlasov Aleksandr
    15 Latour Pierre
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    I recently saw a tweet which said that Mads P (as good as possible) copied the course at home, and did an endless amount of laps on it. Will be interesting to see how close he can come.
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    The course is completely flat, and although it has 25 turns...
    That must be a record all its own, no? Seems a bit excessive.  :cheesy
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    Possibly designed for SKA? He´s surprisingly good in time trials that require repeated accelrations, but now sadly droppped from #dsm DSM team.
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    Stage 2: Roskilde to Nyborg 202.2kms

    Start Time: 12-15CET

    The chances are that the wind (and the formation of echelons) will greatly influence this first road stage. It starts in Roskilde, some 30 kilometres west of Copenhagen.
    The city was founded by the Vikings that’s sure to give the Tour a huge sendoff.


    Crowds will line the 200-plus-kilometer route, which first heads northwest through small towns and villages to the northern coast, with three small Cat. 4 climbs to liven up the first two hours of racing. It then swings south along flat coastal roads. That means the peloton could already be splintered before hitting the 20-kilometer-to-go sign at the start of the Great Belt Crossing, which spans the Baltic Sea via two of the world’s longest suspension bridges (respectively 6.8 and 6.6 kilometers long), with a 2.5-kilometer section across the small island of Sprogø in the middle. There will be no spectators on the bridges and no shelter from the winds.
    The Storebælt bridge, that will end with just 3,5 km to go.


    While the riders tackle the Côte d’Asnæs Indelukke, Côte d’Høve Stræde and Côte de Kårup Strandbakke early on, the bridge is the only obstacle that will be on their minds. Not only is the Storebælt bridge exposed, it also climbs, albeit at a shallow gradient.

    Final Kms
    The finish line in Nyborg is only 2 kilometers after dropping off the second bridge.



    What to Expect:

    The 2nd stage of the 2015 Tour de France. That race finished at the artificial island of Neeltje Jans in the Netherlands, located halfway a storm surge barrier. After a sunny start the finale was played out with tormenting winds tearing the peloton into 5 pieces. André Greipel sprinted to victory in the first echelon, which only consisted of 24 men. The five groups were spread over 11 minutes and some favorites lost 90 seconds.
    We can dream......
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    What to Expect:
    The 2nd stage of the 2015 Tour de France. That race finished at the artificial island of Neeltje Jans in the Netherlands, located halfway a storm surge barrier. After a sunny start the finale was played out with tormenting winds tearing the peloton into 5 pieces. André Greipel sprinted to victory in the first echelon, which only consisted of 24 men. The five groups were spread over 11 minutes and some favorites lost 90 seconds.
    We can dream......

    Getting into the right group when the crosswinds and the rain hit that day, was how Froome won the 2015 Tour. It separated him from Quintana, who would have won the race if not for this dat, as he was climbing much better than a tired Froome on the final week(end). 
    Legend has it that Nairo hasn´t missed out on getting into the first of the bordures in crosswinds ever since.
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    … furthermore, I hate to kill dreams of Neltje Jans v2 but wind forecast is 6 m/s steady, gusts up to 11 m/s but from the southwest, which means headwinds across the bridge, if correct. #bikeexchange , #lotto and #quickstep to set the sprint trains moving! 

    Is this the first top-level #bikeexchange Dylan vs #quickstep Fabio since the crash?
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    This sounds like it's going to be quite a unique stage.  :cool
    If nothing else, I'm certainly looking forward to the scenery.

    And just to recap the prologue a bit:
    It was really nice to see the depth of emotion being felt by Yves Lampaert after his unexpected victory. Had any of the favorites won, their reactions would've been considerably more muted, so I quite enjoyed this. Now the question remains: can he hold onto to Yellow for one more day?

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    I wonder if Lampaert’s win yesterday reduces the chance of splits, as Quickstep don’t need to tear the bunch apart to take yellow and would probably be confident with Jakobsen in a mass sprint. Plus it seems a lot less likely they’d now burn Lampaert splitting the group on the bridge for a stage win, but who knows
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    https://twitter.com/jens_dekker/status/1543239497009225730

    500 Swiss Francs fine and -20 UCI points. So no real consequences then.
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    Vejle to Sønderborg 182kms

    Start Time 13-05CET

    Starting from the host city of the usual queen stage of the Tour of Denmark, the third day is pancake-flat, with way less chance of echelons than the previous day - a perfect stage for the pure sprinters. The riders clip into their pedals in Vejle, a city which has the rather unfortunate nickname of the "Manchester of Denmark".


    This stage across the Jutland peninsula opens with a loop that passes the massive Jelling Stones, which date from the 10th century and are regarded as the birthplace of the nation, marking Denmark’s emergence from a pagan to a Christian country. The 182-kilometer route then heads south, almost to the border with Germany, including three more Cat. 4 climbs for those contesting the polka-dot jersey. The finale is fairly sheltered and so the sprinters’ teams should be able to catch any breakaways.

    The finish in Sønderborg will mark the end of the most northerly start in Tour de France history. Following the stage, the race entourage will make a 900-kilometer transfer to northern France where racing continues in two days’ time.

    Final Kms





    What to Expect.
    The 3rd stage at the Tour de France is not entirely flat. But the obstacles are not at all hard. So the sprinters are likely to have it their way. So, expect the breakaway to be small, controlled by the big sprint teams. After that, sprint trains, elbows, possible pile ups, protests and the best lead out making the crucial difference.
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    Oh and on the subject Carlton Kirby's crass dismissal of "Chris" today. This shows how cheap his talk is and how quickly forgotten.


    https://twitter.com/carltonkirby/status/1439371734369685507
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    MV, them sausages look very good,
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    T-72s rest day 2 roundup
    (This is intended reading for the Monday after the first rest day, which was Sunday)


    We have had a few days of racing in Denmark, and as the weather kept getting better the bike racing part of the Tour faded away to become a long procession of riders greeted by fans wearing yellow, green and red and white stuff.


    The first stage provided a bit of a surprise win, the second stage was quite tense and had a favorite victory for the terrain, the thirds stage was extremely releaxed and was won by that other favorite for the same kind of terrain. Any wind gusts were right in the face of the TV producers and the much anticipated drama is actually lacking apart from a few unneccsary and unvoluntay crashes. Apparently not so bad for this being the three first stages  of the tour - major carnage has been the rule rather than the exception over the past few years.


    Here are now my updated lists of favorites, going forward:
    Sprinters: 1. Fabio Jakobsen 2. Wout van Aert 3. Dylan Groenewegen
    GC Riders : 1. Tadej 2 Wout van Aert 3. Jonas Vingegaard
    Mountain Jersey: 1: King Cort 2.Wout van Aert 3. Bardet   
    Teams: 1. Jumbo-Visma 2. Wout van Aert 3. Ineos
    Combative: 1. King Cort 2. Wout van Aert 3. Bystrøm

    Overall:1. Denmark 2. place Wout van Aert 3. EF education jerseys                               

    Second place: 1: Jonas Vingegaard 2: Wout van Aert 3. Jumbo-Visma

     :angel
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    I've just been catching up on the replays after deliberately avoiding any possible spoilers from Stage Three.

    Quite a dramatic sprint finish, although Liggett was suggesting that Sagan should be penalized for boxing out Caleb Ewan. Even after multiple viewings, Phil was firm in his stance. 
    :S

    Wout clearly drifted way off his line, and nearly forced Sagan into the barriers. As a result of that, Ewan simply had nowhere to go. But what a winning maneuver by Dylan Groenewegen. 
    :cool
    He was able to navigate the shifting dynamics just in front of him, and managed to find the one and only lane to victory. After all he's been through since the Poland/Jakobsen incident (even if he's to blame, and although he obviously never had to deal with the physical recuperation)  this was clearly an emotionally-wrought and redemptive win for him. And after being released by Jumbo two years ago, beating Wout to the line seems to hold its own irony.

    Not to overlook Stage Two's sprint victory by the aforementioned Fabio Jakobsen...

    What an amazing chapter to add to an already amazing comeback story his since that near-death crash only two years ago. That final explosive acceleration to the line was something to behold. The way he overtook both Mads Pedersen and Wout van Aert (that expression on Wout's face at the line!) was breathtaking. All of that after having been led out by the Yellow Jersey of teammate Yves Lampaert right up until about the 500m mark. That's not something you get to see very often. Well done to an amazing sprint train and an amazing winner.

    I wouldn't pretend to imagine what it's like inside the head of either Jakobsen or Groenewegen, but it somehow seems fitting that they've respectively won back-to-back Tour stages. I dunno. I'm open to many, and any, interpretations and perspectives on all of it.
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    Stage 4: Dunkerque to Calais, 171.5kms

    Start Time: 13-15CET

    Although the stage starts and finishes at sea level, the amount of climbing in between might well give the sprinters some cause for concern. The peloton will, for example, head towards the hills of West Flanders, where riders familiar with the venerable Four Days of Dunkirk stage race will feel right at home, as this 171.5-kilometer loop takes in the infamous Mont Cassel, before visiting the Boulonnais hills. There’s likely to be lots of long-range attacks, especially in the final section along the coast that could well be windy: the climbs near the Cap Gris-Nez and Cap Blanc-Nez headlands could prove decisive.



    Dunkirk has been a regular host to the Tour de France. The last stage start was in 2007. The race went to Ghent, where Gert Steegmans took the win.
    Calais is relatively unexperienced in terms of hosting La Grande Boucle. It’s the third time in the 120-year history of the Tour that the town welcomes the race within its borders.
    The route leads mainly through the Parc Naturel Régional des Caps et Marais d’Opale, or The Regional Nature Park of the Opal Capes and Marshes.
    With both start and finish coastal towns windy conditions could play a crucial role. Moreover, the route is far from flat, although big climbs are absent. The combination of constant winds and neverending undulations could prove to be decisive.



    The Climbs:





    Final Kms.





    What to Expect.

    Depending upon how hard the second half of the stage is race, the wind, the strength of the break etc, the parcours could prove sufficiently tough to weed out the pure sprinters in favour of the types who are still fast after a hard race.
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    Amazing scenes  - wonderful support across Denmark for the Grand Depart - thoroughly enjoyed the racing too.  Yes still missing the manx missile - and Lefebvre's #Cavwho? tweet was unnecessary - but as per DB somewhat fitting that the two stage winners are who they are.

    Really looking forward to the week ahead - will be really intriguing to see how far WVA can hold yellow - if Roglic turns domestiques (as the world wants surely?) then deeper than originally plausible?  Anyway looks like a great set of stages this week.

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    I have been away for the first few days.  I did see a fair portion of stage 2 (amazing bridge) but otherwise havent seen much.

    Back now though, so happy to settle in for a good race
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    I have nothing to do with this twitter account but we may have observed the same trend in all performances:

    https://twitter.com/killow_/status/1543941441055068160
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    ...and Lefebvre's #Cavwho? tweet was unnecessary -

    Was that really him, though? At a glance, it appears that his actual Twitter account has been inactive since last year, even posting a "last tweet" back in Sept. 26, 2021.

    https://twitter.com/PatLefevere/status/1442257251033518086
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    Stage 5: Lille Métropole – Arenberg Porte du Hainaut, 153.7kms

    Start Time: 13-35CET

    Some years ago the cobblestones where seen as the big bugbear of the whole route, causing even outrage from some of the smaller climbers not used to these type of roads. Not that this changed much and the addition of pave to the GT parcours remains a discussion, if not an actual bone of contention. However, protecting GC riders from potential crashes is not limited to such stages, as this role has to be performed at every sprint stage. The real fear is the potential for GC riders to lose significant time. To lose it through poor bike handling is one thing, but through a puncture on a cobbled section, another.
    Consequently, the ASO have rated this a **** stage.



    Lille hosted the Tour de France on dozens of occassions, although it has been awhile since the last ones. In 2014, Marcel Kittel sprinted to victory. The village of Arenberg is made famous by the Trouée d’Arenberg from Paris-Roubaix, but also hosted two Tour de France finishes. In 2010, Thor Hushovd pocketed a race with seven cobbled sectors, and in 2014 Lars Boom succeeded the strong Norwegian. That last stage was played in rainy conditions and saw defending champion Chris Froome crash out of contention, while Vincenzo Nibali took an advance on his eventual GC win with a solid third place. Although the stage finishes in Arenberg, the famous Trouée d’Arenberg is not included in the race.



    20 kilometres of the route will be on pavé. The race will almost certainly split apart over the 11 cobbled sections on this year’s menu. That’s because four of the last five sectors appear regularly in Paris–Roubaix, including the three longest (all 2.4 kilometers), inside the final 30 kilometers. The last sector, via the infamous Pont Gibus, ends just 5.1 kilometers from the finish in Arenberg.



    With five former Paris–Roubaix champions in the field, along with such classics stars as Kasper Asgreen (Quick-Step), Stefan Küng (Groupama-FDJ), Wout Van Aert (Jumbo-Visma) and Mathieu van der Poel (Alpecin-Fenix), we can expect a spectacular and destructive day in this mini Hell of the North.





    What to Expect:
    A lot more action than we experienced over the first 4 stages of this race. WVA may have been encouraged to go on the rampage yesterday, because he is required for shepherding duties, today.
    Step forward Mattheu van der Poel, plus teams like Trek Segafredo, who have top cobbled specialists, but no real GC contender.
    By the end of the day, it's probable that there will be tears for the odd, unlucky GC candidate.

    Plus, the all important weather for the day.

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    Consequently, the ASO have rated this a **** stage.

    Crowds apart, they could have said the same of stages 2 and 3.
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    20 kilometres of the route will be on pavé. The race will almost certainly split apart over the 11 cobbled sections on this year’s menu. That’s because four of the last five sectors appear regularly in Paris–Roubaix, including the three longest (all 2.4 kilometers), inside the final 30 kilometers. The last sector, via the infamous Pont Gibus, ends just 5.1 kilometers from the finish in Arenberg.

    I don't think it is a many times they race these sectors in this order, even if reversed? I think the 5-4-3 with 3 sectors > 2 km, some 7.2 km total will be what makes a difference in this race.  The distance from sector to sector here are smaller than the sectors themselves. If you can't ride cobbles thelegs will shake and the arms will shiver, and  a few minutes will be lost easily.
    Or not - the 2015 cobbles stage also happened but no-one remembers it because nothing big happened. The sun wasn't shining but it wasn't raining much either. Chris Froome had learned the wobble on the cobble and didn't loose much time. Very different from 2014 , the edition remenbered by everyone because of Froome's repeated crashes, Fuglsang and Nibali.

    The best GC rider with the best team for the cobbles this year - #ineos Geraint Thomas?

    And can someone summon the best rain doctor there is to do a little dance for us?
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    I don't think it is a many times they race these sectors in this order, even if reversed? I think the 5-4-3 with 3 sectors > 2 km, some 7.2 km total will be what makes a difference in this race.  The distance from sector to sector here are smaller than the sectors themselves. If you can't ride cobbles thelegs will shake and the arms will shiver, and  a few minutes will be lost easily.
    Or not - the 2015 cobbles stage also happened but no-one remembers it because nothing big happened. The sun wasn't shining but it wasn't raining much either. Chris Froome had learned the wobble on the cobble and didn't loose much time. Very different from 2014 , the edition remenbered by everyone because of Froome's repeated crashes, Fuglsang and Nibali.

    The best GC rider with the best team for the cobbles this year - #ineos Geraint Thomas?

    And can someone summon the best rain doctor there is to do a little dance for us?

    That's a bit hard on Froome.
    The crash that caused Froome to crash twice that day, actually happened the day before. He was unable to grip the handlebars properly.
    Also he never actual crashed on the cobbled sections, as he had already abandoned before those sectioned arrived.

    But yeah, 2014 was much more memorable than 2015.
    The other notable occasion being 2011, when Frank Schleck crashed out and a young Geraint Thomas finished second on the stage to your man, Thor.


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    who are the 5 former winners?

    Gilbert
    Sagan
    Van Barle
    Degenkolb
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     Today's casualties are Jack Haig who crashed out and Primoz Roglic, who dislocated his shoulder in his crash.
    It must be said that although that hay bale was well marked, it was placed out into the road making it an accident waiting to happen, which it duly did.

    Ben O'Connor was the compulsory random French loser on these stages.
    He takes the title, despite being an Aussie, as Bardet, Gaudu, Pinot and Martin came out of the stage surprisingly well.
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