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Re: Operation Puerto
« Reply #150 on: February 19, 2013, 18:47 »
Mess was 2004 or was it 2005 as well phonak = team positive.

You're right. They quit en masse in January 2005, I think.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #151 on: February 19, 2013, 18:54 »
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #152 on: February 19, 2013, 19:00 »
    Info mentioning Demir and doping

    http://www.expatica.com/de/news/local_news/doctors-in-doping-probe-may-have-german-link-31937.html

    Heaps of Landis stuff no 2004  :'(

    Scratch that. It's Thomas Klimatschka. Tyler has already named him in the past. (e.g. http://www.radsportkompakt.de/2012/11/20/hamilton-belastet-auch-deutschen-mediziner/)

    Later of Leopard-Trek and Katusha.  ;)
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #154 on: February 19, 2013, 19:57 »
    JSG is rapidly becoming the apprentice to Larris sorcerer
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #155 on: February 19, 2013, 23:40 »
    Angel Vicisio is found, in his new home in Andorra.. Apparently nobody had told him he had to come talk to the Judge and convieniently he hasnt read the sporting papers & magazines the last two months. :D :D

    http://www.heraldo.es/noticias/deportes/mas_deportes/2013/02/19/angel_vicioso_223305_1101034.html
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #156 on: February 20, 2013, 07:24 »
    http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/02/news/hamilton-testifies-that-sevilla-phonak-director-others-accompanied-him-for-transfusions_275218

    Andrew Hoods report from yesterday.

    With 1 important missing bit, but we know who the Dr was most likely :win
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #157 on: February 20, 2013, 08:23 »
    http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/02/news/hamilton-testifies-that-sevilla-phonak-director-others-accompanied-him-for-transfusions_275218

    Andrew Hoods report from yesterday.

    With 1 important missing bit, but we know who the Dr was most likely :win

    If he'd waited until some doping cranks Googled Klimaschka, Andrew would have missed his publishing deadline.  :D
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #158 on: February 20, 2013, 13:29 »
    Angel Vicioso has apparently gone missing, even the guarda dont know where he is. He is due to testify on friday.

    Being reported that AC wont be required to testify on the 22nd (same day as vicioso) as planned. He was being called by Manolo's legal team. Either they figure they may as well protect AC from lying under oath, or Manolo has finally realised that even Alberto defending him wont stop the huge pile of crap thats headed for him courtesy of Jaksche and Hamilton.

    Or AC told Manolo's legal team that he would not lie under oath, bluffing or not, and Manolo's legal team let him out of testifying because of it.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #159 on: February 20, 2013, 17:26 »
    Ekimov suspends Vicioso for "lying"

    http://en.rsport.ru/other_sports/20130220/646530086.html

    In other news, Father Christmas reveals the tooth fairy doesnt exist.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #160 on: February 20, 2013, 18:49 »
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/51-puerto-blood-bags-remain-unlocated

    51 of the original blood bags are missing.

    We know there was a cover-up of the tennis/athletics/football side of Puerto back in 2006 and I would not be at all surprised if these 51 missing bags were destroyed as part of that cover up.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #161 on: February 22, 2013, 10:45 »
    vicioso shown his doping calendar from fuentes at LS and apparently he forgets somethings.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #162 on: February 22, 2013, 10:52 »
    wow vicision says he is willing to do a dna test to prove that the blood bags aint his.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #163 on: February 22, 2013, 11:21 »
    wow vicision says he is willing to do a dna test to prove that the blood bags aint his.

    I'll believe that when I see it happen ... ;)
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #164 on: February 27, 2013, 20:14 »
    So has this finished now then :D

    And on Angel, there is one bag of his in storage, but im not sure he realises it as his last tranfusions from memory was a large in in may so he may think he has none left.

    Wrong Sucka.. you have one :D
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #165 on: February 28, 2013, 08:28 »
    So has this finished now then :D

    And on Angel, there is one bag of his in storage, but im not sure he realises it as his last tranfusions from memory was a large in in may so he may think he has none left.

    Wrong Sucka.. you have one :D

    The testimonies of interest to us have finished but the case is temporarily stalled. Carlos Arribas noted in El Pais on Monday that the State had refused funding for transcriptions (transcriptions about transfusions ;)), so the judge has been left with the task of writing up her own case. Testimonies from non-ES speaking witnesses like Jaksche and Dr Schumacher were not stenographed and must also be translated.

    The situation dovetails somewhat with ongoing protests against austerity measures in Spain, where judges actually went on strike recently to protest a lack of resources. Those staff who are currently having to work extra on the Puerto case are basically doing so without pay.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #166 on: March 04, 2013, 12:35 »
    Peter Cossins ‏@petercossins
    The haematologist appearing for defence at Puerto trial has revealed he's not a haematologist after giving evidence for 2hrs via @Juan_Guti


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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #167 on: March 05, 2013, 16:34 »
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    Interesting day at Operation Puerto, wiretapped phonecalls played to court. Fuentes 'hysterical' days before arrest because lack of products

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    In tapped calls Fuentes implicates Unai Osa as client, (swore under oath he wasn't) and panics about getting 'snacks' to Birillo at '06 Gir
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #168 on: March 07, 2013, 11:40 »
    Top 10 quotes from the Operacion Puerto trial

    8.   Fuentes, phone conversation to ‘laboratory co-director’ Merino Batres concerning Ivan Basso in the 2006 Giro: “I’ve got to sort this out, because at the end of the day, I’m the one who’s responsible. ‘Birillo’ [Ivan Basso] is waiting... and what should I say to ‘Birillo’? That there’s no food. Things are getting out of hand and he’s in a place where it’s impossible to take him sandwiches. We’d been planning for months to take him a sandwich this weekend. If there’s no sausage, I’ll give him chorizo or cheese. We had promised him a couple of ice lollies [blood bags].”
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #171 on: March 15, 2013, 19:49 »
    We live in hope!
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #172 on: March 15, 2013, 21:26 »
    Bags known in storage

    Ullrich - already retired and confessed
    Basso - already banned
    Botero -
    Oscar Sevilla
    Unai Oso - retired
    Oscar Periero - retired
    Marcus Serrano - retired
    Angel Vicioso - Katusha
    Francisco Mancebo
    Valverede- already suspended
    Aito Oso - retired
    Constantino Zabelle Guterriez -
    Jorge Jakshe - retired and confessed
    Number 22 unknown
    number 23 Unknown
    Clasicomano Luigi (4 bags)
    Lulu Sanchez
    Clasicomano (3 bags)
    number 101 unknown
    ana - 1 bag
    cfa - 1 bag
    dona - 2 bags
    gemma - 2 bags
    klaus - 2 bags
    mari - 3 bags
    sofa - 2 bags
    tonante - 1 bag
    tor - 1 bag

    not too much to get excited about, retired, confessed or already been suspended.

    There is of course the off chance that there might be somewhere in those 200 a nugget of gold, cancellara, schleck, contador.. but unlikely.. certainly contador is out, spanish authorities made sure of that.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #173 on: March 15, 2013, 21:28 »
    Vicioso would be done, along with Lulu..

    that list is from the 100 known bags, the other 80 odd bags are mainly plasma so will be similar names.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #174 on: March 15, 2013, 21:31 »
    Hopefully there will be some none cyclists in there.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #175 on: March 15, 2013, 21:33 »
    Hopefully there will be some none cyclists in there.

    some of the minor unnumbered bags are non cyclists

    ana - 1 bag
    cfa - 1 bag
    dona - 2 bags
    gemma - 2 bags
    klaus - 2 bags
    mari - 3 bags
    sofa - 2 bags
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    for instance klaus is a tennis player.. but they will be in the minority..

    and the timing of the raids meant that real madrid etc had no bags in storage ;)
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #176 on: March 15, 2013, 21:45 »
    So no footballers?

    Unacceptable. Either its done properly or not at all.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #177 on: March 15, 2013, 21:49 »
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    Any speculation as to what reasoning she might employ if she DOESN'T release the additional evidence?
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #178 on: March 15, 2013, 22:22 »
    So no footballers?

    Unacceptable. Either its done properly or not at all.
    You can only work with the evidence you have. As Dim said, there's no reason for footballers to refill in late May.
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    Re: Operation Puerto
    « Reply #179 on: March 15, 2013, 22:26 »
    late May 2006? There was this little thing called the World Cup.

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