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« on: October 19, 2012, 08:04 »
http://www.rabosport.com/news/item/25789

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Rabobank will end its sponsorship of both the men’s and the women’s professional cycling teams per 31 December 2012. Rabobank will continue its ties with amateur cycling as a sponsor, including the youth training and the cyclocross team.

Rabobank has come to this decision following publication of the report from the American doping authority USADA last week. This report speaks volumes. Bert Bruggink, member of the Managing Board: “It is with pain in our heart, but for the bank this is an inevitable decision. We are no longer convinced that the international professional world of cycling can make this a clean and fair sport. We are not confident that this will change for the better in the foreseeable future.”

Rabobank started its involvement in cycling 17 years ago. Full of conviction and with a clear mission. Because cycling fits with Rabobank, with its clients and employees. Rabobank has expanded the cycling sponsorship during the course of the years to a complete package, from the men’s and women’s professional teams to the youth team and the cyclo cross.

Bert Bruggink: “Cycling is a beautiful sport, which millions of Dutch people enjoy and a large number of those Dutch people are clients of Rabobank. But our decision stands: we are pulling out of professional cycling. It is painful. Not just for Rabobank, but especially for the enthusiasts and the cyclists who are not to blame in this.”

Who wants some cheap signings?
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #1 on: October 19, 2012, 08:11 »
    Bert Brugging: 'Het gaat met pijn in het hart, maar voor onze bank is het een onvermijdelijke beslissing. Wij zijn niet meer overtuigd dat de internationale professionele wielerwereld in staat is om een schone en eerlijke sport mogelijk te maken. Wij hebben niet het vertrouwen dat dit op afzienbare termijn ten goede zal keren.'

    'It's with pain in our heart, but for the bank this is an inevitable decision. We are no longer convinced the international cycling community is able to make this a clean and fair sport. We've lost the faith that this will turn for the better on the short term.'
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #2 on: October 19, 2012, 08:12 »
    man this is big

    The womens teams announced signings 2 days ago, they had no idea this was coming

     
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #3 on: October 19, 2012, 08:14 »
    Not good.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #4 on: October 19, 2012, 08:18 »
    There are only about ten guys who will be fortunate enough to get picked up by other top teams. It's going to be a rough time for the others.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #5 on: October 19, 2012, 08:18 »
    16 years of sponsorship



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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #6 on: October 19, 2012, 08:20 »
    Rabobank's statement: http://www.rabobank.nl/particulieren/servicemenu/nieuws/rabobank_nieuws/rabo_stopt_sponsoring_wielerploeg

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    Rabobank stopt per 31 december 2012 met de sponsoring van de professionele wielerploegen, zowel van de heren als van de dames. Rabobank blijft als sponsor verbonden aan de amateursport, waaronder de jeugdopleiding en het veldrijden.

    Rabobank is tot dit besluit gekomen na verschijning van het rapport van de Amerikaanse dopingautoriteit USADA vorige week. Dit rapport spreekt boekdelen. Bert Bruggink, lid van de raad van bestuur: “Het gaat met pijn in het hart, maar voor onze bank is het een onvermijdelijke beslissing. Wij zijn niet meer overtuigd dat de internationale professionele wielerwereld in staat is om een schone en eerlijke sport mogelijk te maken. Wij hebben niet het vertrouwen dat dit op afzienbare termijn ten goede zal keren.”

    Rabobank is 17 jaar geleden in de wielersport gestapt. Vol overtuiging en met een duidelijke missie. Want wielrennen past bij de Rabobank, bij haar klanten en bij haar medewerkers. Rabobank heeft de wielersponsoring in de loop der jaren uitgebreid tot een compleet pakket, van de heren- en damesprofploeg tot de jeugdopleiding en het veldrijden.

    Bert Bruggink:“Wielrennen is een prachtige sport waaraan miljoenen Nederlanders plezier beleven en een groot deel van die Nederlanders is klant van de Rabobank. Maar ons besluit staat vast: we trekken ons terug uit de professionele wielersport. Het is pijnlijk, niet alleen voor de Rabobank, maar vooral voor de liefhebbers en de sporters die geen blaam treft.“

    Per 31 December 2012, Rabobank stops sponsoring professional cycling teams, both for men and women. Rabobank will remain a sponsor for the amateur sport, including the youth squad and the cyclocross.

    Rabobank came to this decision after the publication of the USADA report last week. This report is telling. Bert Bruggink, member of the board of directors: 'It's with pain in our heart, but for the bank this is an inevitable decision. We are no longer convinced the international cycling community is able to make this a clean and fair sport. We've lost the faith that this will turn for the better on the short term.'

    Rabobank stepped into cycling 17 years ago. Full of convinction and with a clear mission. Because cycling fits with the Rabobank, her customers and her staff. Rabobank extended the team during the years from a men's and women's team to youth squads and cyclocross.

    Bert Bruggink: 'Cycling is a beautiful sport which entertains millions of Dutch and a large portion of those Dutch is a customer of the Rabobank. However, our decision has been made: we quit professional cycling. It's painful, not just for the Rabobank, but for all the fans and athletes who are not to blame.'
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 08:40 »
    Very bad news.  >:( At least Rabo will continue to sponsor the cyclocross and amateur teams - they could return to cycling in the future.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #8 on: October 19, 2012, 08:45 »
    So who gets signed

    Renshaw to OPQS direct   8)   ;D

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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #9 on: October 19, 2012, 08:48 »
           
    1             BARREDO LLAMAZALES Carlos            
    2             BOL Jetse      08/09/1989            
    3             BOOM Lars      30/12/1985               
    4             BOS Theo      22/08/1983            
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    10             GESINK Robert      31/05/1986            
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    16             MATTHEWS Michael      26/09/1990            
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #10 on: October 19, 2012, 08:51 »
    So who gets signed

    Renshaw to OPQS direct   8)   ;D

    Indeed likely this will be the end (for now at least) of Renshaw's career as lead sprinter. OPQS, OGRE or Argos, in all cases in a lead-out role.

    LuLu should be a popular one, he could be an excellent signing for Euskaltel. Ten Dam, Mollema, Gesink, Boom, Kelderman, Kruiswijk and Slagter shouldn't have trouble finding a new team either. A lot of the others will have to accept a significantly lower paycheck though.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #11 on: October 19, 2012, 08:51 »
    No-one will sign Gesink as a leader surely?
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 08:52 »
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    However Cyclingnews understands that the teams will attempt to continue but without Rabobank cooperation, using a similar model used by High Road after T-Mobile pulled out of the sport in 2007

    but who is the big money and I bet it is just the mens  >:(


    and there is the teams fund - but hang on the UCI spent a sh*t load of that in China  >:(
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #13 on: October 19, 2012, 08:54 »
    No-one will sign Gesink as a leader surely?
    Argos needs GC riders.

    It will be interesting to see what Gesink/Boom/Mollema can achieve outside of their comfort zone.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #14 on: October 19, 2012, 08:57 »
    Argos needs GC riders.

    It will be interesting to see what Gesink/Boom/Mollema can achieve outside of their comfort zone.

    it might be the kick in the ass they need
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #15 on: October 19, 2012, 09:00 »
    slow or another Dutchy

    I get 70 % but can you give the highlights in English

    http://www.radio1.nl/items/63945-rabobank-stopt-met-de-sponsoring-wielerploeg?autoplay=275366
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #16 on: October 19, 2012, 09:07 »
    mentions the white label in the interview

    Thats a massive rider group

     
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #17 on: October 19, 2012, 09:08 »
    This sucks.  USADA report the final straw?  Or a fear of dirty laundry coming out?  Let's face it they don't have a clean history at all, but still, very disappointing for their promising young cohort.

    An another damaging blow to the women's side of the sport with a second big team pulling out.  If Rabo's problem is the credibility of cycling, I don't think that is any reason for them to have pulled the plug on their women's team, who are not tarnished in the way that the men were.  Sad.

    From David Millar on twitter:
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    Dear Rabobank, you were part of the problem. How dare you walk away from your young clean guys who are part of the solution. Sickening.

    And more humourous, Daniel Friebe:
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #18 on: October 19, 2012, 09:09 »
    This leaves Lars Petter Nordhaug deep in it.    Maybe Sky will take him back
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #19 on: October 19, 2012, 09:10 »
    I have a feeling this is more about Nov 15th than USADA , but that did no help ofc
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #20 on: October 19, 2012, 09:11 »
    This leaves Lars Petter Nordhaug deep in it.    Maybe Sky will take him back

    if he does not ride White and being a non Dtch maybe asked to leave

    BMC with Thor maybe ?
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #21 on: October 19, 2012, 09:11 »
    slow or another Dutchy

    I get 70 % but can you give the highlights in English

    http://www.radio1.nl/items/63945-rabobank-stopt-met-de-sponsoring-wielerploeg?autoplay=275366

    They've been in doubt about the sponsoring for a long time, since USADA they decided there was no chance of recovery for the cycling world. They have no faith in the cleaning of cycling. The popularity of cycling has dropped through this USADA stuff, and Rabo doesn't want to remain involved with it.

    They didn't see problems directly in the Rabo team, but decided that the context was too messed up with doping to continue. Rabo has tried everything to clean up the team, but with Barredo it shows that there again is a problem with doping.

    They continue with youth teams because they want to continue with the KWU (cycling union) and cycling in the broader sense, but don't feel they can justify sponsoring the pro teams.

    The team didn't know until now. For the continental team, there has been a solution (more info at the press conference). The team will continue, Rabo will fulfill its contractual obligations, so next year they will probably remain active under a "white label", allowing the team to possibly make a new start. So the riders have a team for next year.

    Despite the decision, very generously handled by Rabobank. Respect to them.

    Edit- In some 10 minutes the press conference. I'll keep you informed of the highlights, though I don't think it'll have all that much new information.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #22 on: October 19, 2012, 09:24 »
    some twitter bits

    1h Mark Renshaw ‏@Mark_Renshaw
    “@RaboCycling: Rabobank to end its sponsorship of professional cycling teams http://www.rabosport.com

    Mark Renshaw ‏@Mark_Renshaw
    Got no idea whats going on people. Wait and see?

    Stef ‏@Stefclement
    I believe in this promising, hard working and talented group of riders and staff. The glue is gone, but we don't need to fall a part.

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    Dear Rabobank, you were part of the problem. How dare you walk away from your young clean guys who are part of the solution. Sickening.

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    Just in case anybody needed reminding, Hein Verbruggen is Dutch. He's leaving a fine legacy.

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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #23 on: October 19, 2012, 09:26 »
    Good that the team will be able to continue for next year in some form, so the riders and staff won't immediately lose their jobs
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #24 on: October 19, 2012, 09:39 »
    Not a very good day for Dutch cycling... At least Rabo will continue to fund the amateurs, cyclocross, and the Dutch cycling union. On the other hand, who knows, this might be good for Dutch cycling long term. With no guarantees of a big fat contract for any Dutch rider with a bit of talent they might just race that little bit harder.

    David Millar's reaction is understandable, if misplaced. Of course Rabobank's departure now, seeking the moral high ground, is more than a little hypocrictical, given the sponsored a (by all acounts) very dirty team for over a decade (however dirty the team is now is a mystery). On the other hand no sponsor is obligated to remain in the sport, and they will honour the contract they had, so if Rabobank could just have cut the Hamlet act about their doubts and moral qualms it would be all good.

    Anyway, future for the team: First of all, no way the team leaders will find a similar sized sponsor (€13m p/a) for 2014 and beyond. Rabobank is one of the largest companies in the Netherlands already, and corporate marketing budgets aren't exactly flush at the moment given the economy. However cycling does get a lot of attention over here, so that the team will just be left to expire after next season  is unthinkable, putting in a few million euros is a pretty good deal for all the attention the likes of Gesink or Mollema will get. Maybe they'll be able to continue with half the budget from a couple of sources, if they're lucky.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #25 on: October 19, 2012, 09:41 »
    Press conference started. I'll update this post when if they give any relevant information.

    - They again underline that the USADA was the final straw.
    - A new organisation will hold the licenses and continue for another year, both men and women. Just not under the Rabobank name. Full support will continue to be provided for another year.
    - Rabo continues to support Vos through the next Olympics, but how exactly is not sure. Some form of support will continue to be provided to the women, how exactly this will be done is not yet clear.
    - The continental and cx teams might be brought to the KNWU (Dutch cycling union), which will continue to run them.

    That's it already, not much information.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #26 on: October 19, 2012, 09:43 »
    and it is a said day in a more lighter sense

    no longer will the rabobus forming   :'(
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #28 on: October 19, 2012, 09:48 »
    I feel especially bad for the professional women's team. Sad development.

    Thanks to our Dutch friends for translations and updates.
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    Re: Rabo GONE
    « Reply #29 on: October 19, 2012, 10:03 »
    Hmmm, apparantly Thomas Dekker has said on Twitter how much of a shame it is for the young riders to be victims of the past... Perhaps apologies would be in order.
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