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Re: General Cyclocross News
« Reply #150 on: October 31, 2016, 23:55 »



Jappe Jaspers will turn pro on 1 January with the new team led by Nick Nuyens with Niels Albert as cross coach and with Crelan as main sponsor. So says the regional extra of the Gazet van Antwerpen on this Monday.

Thereby Jaspers becomes the youngest ever pro cyclocrosser, at age 18 and 4 months. With Wout Van Aert, Tim Merlier, Stan Godrie, they will form a cyclocross quartet in this cross/road team. He’ll remain active in the U23 ranks, the nats aside and will keep on carrying out his study in photography.

Jaspers showed his climb talent in a 3-day race in Germany. Nick Nuyens sees more in him than just a crosser.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #151 on: November 03, 2016, 15:36 »
    I remember having already read an article about Jappe Jaspers it was on 25 October in the Gazet van Antwerpen but I didn't have time to post it.



    At the Niels Albert Cross in Boom, Jappe was 10th, racing witth the pros and thereby grabbing his very first UCI point while he's just starting to digest the transition towards the U23

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    This sole UCI point makes a gigantic difference for me because I can now start with a better position on the line.  In the youth category, I usually set it myself. This can mean a big step forward. At the start I had trouble with the tempo.  Now it's imposed upon me by older riders who also  had a better prep on the road. On the road I still raced with the juniors. They already raced with the U23.

    In Gieten, Ronse and Zonhoven Jappe was twice 2nd U23 year #1 and once first.

    His next objective was a selection for World Cup events and for the Euro championship [that failed, I think?] and he hopes to be selected for Zolder because then a dual selection may be sent.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #152 on: November 04, 2016, 15:40 »


    Yesterday's Het Laatste Nieuws & De Morgen

    Mathieu Van der Poel had an offday on All Saints Day for the Koppenberg Cross, something that he cannot understand. He was not sick nor injured but he doesn't worry for the rest of the season. The day after the race was a recup day like any other recuperation day: loosely riding in am, a nap after lunch and then consulting the kinesist.

    He thought that he might not have recovered from the trip from Pontchateau but knows that that cannot be a logical explanation. He was with the Belgians on the plane and they had no trouble with that trip. He doesn't go further than "maybe a bit exhausted".

    He doesn't even believe that his cut short summer preparation ma have an influence on this off-day

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    Because so far I consistently performed. If my basis was not large enough I would have had more ups and downs. I understand people's surprise because I don't get it either. It rarely occurs to me, such an off-day. It wasn't fun but I've decided not to break my mind about it. The coming weekend we shall see if there's something wrong with but right now I start from the assumption that everything is okay and that I soon can get my normal level back.

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    (In Gazet van Antwerpen)

    Both Wout Van Aert and Mathieu Van der Poel pulled out of the Schelde Cross in Antwerp, next Saturday. They are both still scheduled to race Ruddervoorde though. After Ruddervoorde Wout is going on holiday in Spain for a week in order to recuperate for the rest of the season and thereby will miss Niel (traditionally held on Armistice Day 11/11) and Hasselt on 11/19. None of them are ranked events.

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    Wout would like to show his rainbow jersey but we should beware of overdoing. He also wants to be fit for the Worlds late January and that's why it's wise to fill in some gas back.

    says his manager Jan Verstraeten. His trainer also feared he raced too much. See the thread dedicated to him.

    Mathieu also pulls out of Niel but races Ruddervoorde and he stays in Belgium.

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    Due to his knee injuries Mathieu didn't have an ideal preparation for this cross season and shouldn't ... [cannot translate]. The season is still long enough.

    says Adrie.

    Lars Van der Haar also pulls out of Sint-Niklaas. Toon Aerts, Laurens Sweeck, Tom Meeusen, Kevin Pauwels, Klaas Vantornout and Michael Vanthourenhout are present though.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #153 on: November 04, 2016, 16:14 »


    [cannot translate]

    "Shouldn't run past himself" literally, meaning he shouldn't do more than his body can handle. Which seems wise.

    It's too bad for those events, but the cross season is long and tough, it's perfectly normal to take a little break when there is an opportunity. Also gives other riders a chance to go for a win.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #154 on: November 05, 2016, 10:58 »
    Thanks SR. By the way, just realised that I posted my post yesterday on the General News Thread while I intended to post it on the 2016/17 season thread. Lol it was on Friday late in the afternoon and the week has been long.  :D ;)

    But I agree. I think it's sort of relieving me that Wout finally takes a rest because even though I admire his dedication, I guess at that rhythm he would never be in contention for the World title in January and he's still only just 22. Mathieu hasn't been as active so far this year but with a disturbed preparation, he should be careful. He doesn't believe it was the reason for his counterperformance on the Koppenberg but perhaps he's still too young and unexperienced for such comments. I guess we may trust Adrie for that. And he's only just 21.

    If I remember well, when Lars did his first season with the pros, at age 21 as well he skipped all the BPost (now DVV) races in order not to overload his calendar. He did the same the following year. Michael Vanthourenhout is not racing evrything either. Now at age 25 Lars is racing everything of course but at age 21/22 it's normal not to race as much as an in-prime rider. However it's possible that Wout & Mathieu are more resistent than Lars is, since they are physically more strongly built.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #155 on: November 06, 2016, 05:04 »
    I am reading this forum from last two days and felt good to join, but can't ride cycle as it is ashamed  to have in life.
    I see all of you like cycling and when I was young liked to ride mac cycle by bending shoulders
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #156 on: December 18, 2017, 07:36 »
    Evie Richards wins at Namur this weekend. In the podium photo, now that is what I call a winning smile.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #157 on: January 13, 2018, 16:41 »
    Right on target, with Flemish TV currently showing a short series called DNA Nys, retired champion Sven's son Thibau wins the Nats  *be for his category. His arch-rival Dante Coremans was fourth.

    A few weeks ago, Nys Senior prompted a few raised eyebrows during the TV series when he claimed that there were many other youngsters at the same level as his son and that only time would tell if the lad, who seems to prefer road racing, would turn out to be a good rider. Modesty or a bit of gentle trolling? :P
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #158 on: February 03, 2018, 15:17 »
    Double gold for GB today at the world's with Evie Richards and Ben Tulett both being successful.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #159 on: February 04, 2018, 17:17 »
    Two more exhausting races today - must be one of the hardest hour and bits of effort in any sport  - really tough for riders today, but great to watch.  Shame for Pidcock but you can't win em all, and I was astonished re the Elite Mens, that will take some getting over.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #160 on: February 04, 2018, 20:01 »
    I was just looking into this thread, looking for explanations of why the favorites both failed today?
    None of them seemed to master the pressure, but  #rainbow van Aert seemed to be riding more economically on the soft ground and run a lot better than van Poels?
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #161 on: February 04, 2018, 21:19 »
    Still its hard to fathom re Van Poels, so dominant all season, but on the one race he would have traded the other 24 wins for he goes off possibly to fast, and then just cant live with v-A.  We all have off days but after the tragedy of last year this is really tough to take, so not only does his biggest rival three-peat, but he gets to wear that jersey every week again next year - that is a whole mountain of hurt.  Still they are both so young that hopefully this is a series that will run well into the next decade. 

    [Chapeau though to v-P for getting back into 3rd when it looked possibly lost and then having a real go for silver, I am nor sure that mentally I could have done that if whatever you did your biggest rival was going to keep the jersey][let's face it I couldn't have done it even in a parallel universe but even for a world champion / world cup winner I though that was impressive]
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #162 on: February 05, 2018, 14:38 »
    The media here have sought to explain the cause of VdP's poor result variously as poor tyre choice, a rare off-day (see upthread) or the assumption of the dreaded "Curse of Sven Nys" (dominant everywhere except at the Worlds).

    However, the only individual in CX these days, other than Wout or Mathieu, more likely to cause waves in the media is VdP Senior, who is perhaps a sorer loser than his son. During the race yesterday, where unlike the UCI Flemish TV always has a journo in the pits to question team managers, Adrie had this to say:

    "If the gap reaches two minutes, it is not normal ... [Van Aert] is riding around, but he does not breathe..."

    Thus the heat of that particular moment seemed to be coming from raked over coals. Oblique accusations have been ignited in the past over medical treatments. But in a studio show later that evening, Flemish commentator Michel Wuyts defended Wout:

    "Adrie van der Poel is making an insinuation and that is a dangerous game. From his words you could conclude that Wout van Aert is medically assisted and has taken cortisone."

    Wuyts stated instead how the parcours favoured Van Aert and the seemingly opposite ways in which each of the two rivals had managed his peak form coming to this point of the season. But he reserved his sharpest comment for last:

    "Mathieu is now 23, I think it's high time he got a real trainer [instead of his father]. He needs a good trainer to show him how to organise his season."
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #163 on: February 05, 2018, 19:35 »
    Oh yes and for reasons unknown UCI geo blocked uk coverage of men's elite race... There was no live coverage elsewhere so had to wait for a delayed Eurosport highlights package with extended ad breaks that skipped from lap 1 to lap 4 without explanation.  Really shambolic handling of the world champs by UCI in a big cycling market
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #164 on: February 05, 2018, 21:59 »
    Oh yes and for reasons unknown UCI geo blocked uk coverage of men's elite race...

    Yes, that's a bad joke. I enjoyed the U23 women's race though, especially the third place of Nadja Heigl.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #165 on: February 06, 2018, 07:32 »
    Oh yes and for reasons unknown UCI geo blocked uk coverage of men's elite race... There was no live coverage elsewhere so had to wait for a delayed Eurosport highlights package with extended ad breaks that skipped from lap 1 to lap 4 without explanation.  Really shambolic handling of the world champs by UCI in a big cycling market

    It was blocked here in Belgium too, as have been all the World Cup rounds. The reason is the same as for the UK: if any sort of broadcast rights have been purchased (live or highlights), the feed is blocked.

    Here Telenet bought up the World Cups and part-sponsored them, while the national broadcaster, which consequently ran only delayed highlights of the Cups much to my irritation, showed the World Champs live.

    A Firefox plugin gets around the YouTube block easily enough though. I've been able to watch all of it, even if I do get stuck with McCrossan and his appalling pronunciation. The other guy doing the ladies is monotonal but much better.

    2017 was a bad year for the national broadcaster's rights purchasing here. For the first time I can remember, we didn't get any RCS Sport races (Giro, MSR, Tirreno, etc) and it was admitted in a brief news article that they got outbid or couldn't afford the package. I had to watch those races on crappy Eurosport NL instead. Bizarrely though, we did get Lombardia.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #166 on: September 16, 2018, 15:14 »
    Nice and deserved win for Lars Van der Haar  on the Kapelmuur.  :) :cool Wout Van Aert was 1 minute ahead but then really missed a turn, broke his derailleur and had to run to the pit area** which was quite far from where he crashed.

    Wout restarted 15" behind Lars and was still possible but crashed again due to too much pressure.

    Surprised 3rd place for Daan Soete. Nice to see Kevin Pauwels still 5th against all these youngsters. It seems that he considered retiring at the end of the season. I hope not.

    1 Lars Van der Haar *nl
    2 Wout Van Aert  #rainbow
    3 Daan Soete
    4 Toon Aerts
    5 Kevin Pauwels
    6 Laurens Sweeck
    7 Quinten Hermans
    8 Jim Aernouts
    9 Tim Merlier
    10 Corne Van Kessel *nl
    11 Tom Meeusen

    ** Sorry for my anti-English borrowing obsession but I find it appalling that the organisers themselves named that area "pit area" in English instead of "mechanische zone" but well I guess I'm on a losing battle here.  ;)
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #167 on: September 16, 2018, 15:43 »
    Sounds more fortunate than deserved, but thanks for the heads up that it is time again to start looking in odd streams for this winter entertainment.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #168 on: October 25, 2018, 08:34 »
    Here's a fun idea from Canada on how to handicap the best rider in the field.



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    At Southern Cross in Manitoba, Canadian Danick Vandale had to split wood mid-race. The activity was imposed on the dominant rider as a handicap by Team Manitoba coach Jayson Gillespie. It's just one in a series of handicaps imposed on the strongest riders in Manitoba that has also included eating a quarter of a pumpkin pie mid-race and carry their bikes for an entire lap. At Southern Cross, Vandale took the win by 2 min 14 sec over the second place rider.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #169 on: February 02, 2019, 15:15 »
    I didn't have much freedom to watch cyclocross this winter but I've got a weekend free at the right moment, for the Worlds in Bogense  *dk.

    Unbelievable hat-trick for Sanne.  :cool Who would have thought that she could have add two titles to her first one after Bieles  *lu.

    Hats off to Lucinda. I saw her crash in the pit but it seems that she crashed twice earlier in the race, which I missed. And yet, she could pressure Sanne till the end, remaining 5" behind for much of the final lap. Nys thinks Sanne would still have won without Lucinda's crashes. I think Sanne is faster in the sprint, isn't she? Anyway.

    Hats off to Marianne too, still there after all these years, never leaving cross despite her amazing road palmares.

    And final word, the Bogense port is lovely. Typically Scandinavian.  :cool Great setting for cyclocross. I didn't know that the route was also World Cup last season.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #170 on: February 02, 2019, 16:41 »
    Yes, nice race in Denmark. I wasn't much of a fan of this parcours initially as it seemed too easy, but the slight rain actually made it a nice, balanced parcours.

    Maybe the Dutch should have made better use of their numbers here to tire Cant out, but to be fair the strongest rider did win. Brand did well and had the most pure power probably, but staying on your bike is a big part of racing, and Cant was technically superior.

    Vos, as always, fought to the end. She didn't quite have the top form she'd need to win here, which is a shame as the parcours could be well suited to her.

    Looking forward to tomorrow. The nature of the parcours means it will be hard for Mathieu to go clear in the first lap, so we could have an actual race on our hands. And the parcours could play into the hands of Lars van der Haar as well - if he doesn't crash trying to jump over the obstacles.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #171 on: February 03, 2019, 15:00 »
    Oh yes and for reasons unknown UCI geo blocked uk coverage of men's elite race... There was no live coverage elsewhere so had to wait for a delayed Eurosport highlights package with extended ad breaks that skipped from lap 1 to lap 4 without explanation.  Really shambolic handling of the world champs by UCI in a big cycling market

    One year on exactly same story....    :angry
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #172 on: February 03, 2019, 15:44 »
    One year on exactly same story....    :angry
    Quite simply, they shouldn't be allowed to geo-block the livestream in a country if there isn't a live TV broadcast there, only delayed highlights. :fp
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #173 on: February 03, 2019, 15:50 »
    Quite simply, they shouldn't be allowed to geo-block the livestream in a country if there isn't a live TV broadcast there, only delayed highlights. :fp

    2 words:
    Eurosport player.
    Home of cyclocross live coverage in the UK.

    Seems they have become quite partial to holding cycling fans to ransom.
    Not so, fans of tennis, snooker or snowy sports.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #174 on: February 03, 2019, 21:21 »
    AFAIK the UCI streams are open only in countries where no broadcasters have licensed it. From what Mellow Velo is posting, I assume that is Eurosport licencsing cyclocross in the UK. Here, it's *no TV2 and they do a decent job with it - which means a Norwegian commentary even if there are no Norwegians in the race (our cycling association is utterly bankrupt following the successes of the mountain bike worlds at Hafjell and the road worlds in Bergen.)

    I have to pay for access, but for the same money I also get any ski races hosted in Switzerland, all the ASO races plus the Norwegian races - well worth the money for me  :)  I am quite fluent in English and I do understand the English commentaries quite well (the guy commenting CX wasn't the hardest one to follow anyway) but - it is much better in my own language. If you want cycling in the national press and on TV, someone has to pay for the journalists. Only the English think they can get it for free ?  :P

    (I also value that while previously I recorder almost every race and sports events I wanted to watch, now they more or less do it form eand I can stream it when I am home from work/skiing/cycling/whatever.)
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #175 on: February 03, 2019, 21:31 »
    Yes, nice race in Denmark. I wasn't much of a fan of this parcours initially as it seemed too easy, but the slight rain actually made it a nice, balanced parcours.

    Maybe the Dutch should have made better use of their numbers here to tire Cant out, but to be fair the strongest rider did win. Brand did well and had the most pure power probably, but staying on your bike is a big part of racing, and Cant was technically superior.

    Vos, as always, fought to the end. She didn't quite have the top form she'd need to win here, which is a shame as the parcours could be well suited to her.

    Looking forward to tomorrow. The nature of the parcours means it will be hard for Mathieu to go clear in the first lap, so we could have an actual race on our hands. And the parcours could play into the hands of Lars van der Haar as well - if he doesn't crash trying to jump over the obstacles.
    sorry for almost forgettting to comment on the racing.

    IMHO the steep sideslope section was very decisive today and Mathieu van der Poel won by being the technically most proficient of the strong riders. The others had to work harder to catch up, time and time again, and when they are not stronger that will eventually fail. 

    In my opinion, in CX they should have an alternative competition format, like sprint in XC skiing: short distance and knock-out competetions. This year there have been very many "boring" races, especially in the men's elite class because after half time van der Poel would be oceans ahead just cruising to the finish line. (Yep, this happens in XC skiing too, Therese Johaug is back).

    The women's CX races have been a lot more interesting to watch, and yesterday was no exception.  Sanne Kant's win against 4 dutch racers was quite impressive. 
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #176 on: February 03, 2019, 21:46 »
    Quite simply, they shouldn't be allowed to geo-block the livestream in a country if there isn't a live TV broadcast there, only delayed highlights. :fp

    I can live with that: it's not as though I am going to have to try hard to avoid hearing spoilers: my neighbours are not having a barbecue and shouting about each twist and turn of it live.

    What is not acceptable is the really bad editing: The programme started with the riders about 200m into the race: no build up at all, and no interview clips from after.  During the race, MvdP was a few seconds ahead of a group of about 7, they went to an ad break, and on return he and WvA had a 25 second gap on anyone else.  If you need to take ad breaks while broadcasting live, that can happen, but it is inexcusable in what is meant to be selected highlights.

    Even worse in the Women's race, they managed to avoid showing whatever mishap befell Lucinda Brand in the pits, the defining moment of the race.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #177 on: February 04, 2019, 09:07 »
    Has it often happened this season that Mathieu be caught back after an early attack in the first laps, though he managed to eventually break away for good afterwards and win with quite comfortable margin. Commentators seemed to suggest it wasn't Mathieu at the top of his form. I haven't seen much of him in action this season. When I could watch a cyclocross, he wasn't there, like in Overijse. If I dare to suggest, it seemed that Mathieu still has trouble to deal with the pressure of a major event like the cyclocross Worlds but that his amazing talent made the rest.

    Anyway, he's now a dual World Champion, which is to be expected for a rider of his caliber. Had Wout won 4 in a row, I would say there's a real problem. It would suggest that Wout is the best rider of his generation which he definitely isn't (let's not forget that he won the title in Bieles thanks to better equipment). I still believe he's second best, despite Toon's amazing season.

    So no Nys' syndrome for Mathieu. No need to wait for his last years to get a second title. Perhaps he'll feel less pressure from now on.

    By the way, he's at 27 wins, this year, isn't he? Nys in his best winter (2004/5) was at 30 wins. Reputedly Roland Liboton won 32 races in 33 but I wasn't able to check that. It sounds like a myth to me.  ;) But Mathieu is a better rider than Nys was, this I'm sure of.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #178 on: February 04, 2019, 19:29 »
    There's still a few races left and we're still a month away from the start of the road season, but the end of the cross season feels at hand now. I do look forward to seeing Mathieu in his well-deserved rainbow jersey.

    Some commentators suggested Mathieu had a slight cold, maybe that's why he wasn't at his very best. He didn't dominate from the start, but this wasn't the ideal parcours for that. Van Aert and Aerts still had to go really deep to keep up with him, and both paid for it in different moments of the race. Even without the sideslope, Van der Poel would have won comfortably.

    Van Aert was definitely at the strongest we've seen him this season, but he still doesn't seem at the level he showed in previous years. With the talent Van Aert has, he should be challenging Mathieu consistently, rather than being on level with Aerts. I recently read an article that suggested Van Aert's focus on the road is costing him his cross form: he is a few kg heavier, which is great for Paris-Roubaix but not so much when trying to follow Mathieu van der Poel on a steep hill in the mud. No idea whether there is anything to it, but it could be one explanation.

    Aerts, right now, is more consistent. Over the whole season, Aerts was for me definitely the second strongest, ahead of Van Aert. He has made an impressive step up this year, and if Mathieu should choose to focus on the road and/or MTB, Toon seems ready to win a lot more titles. Although upcoming riders like Iserbyt may have something to say about that, too.

    For a number of years, I've been hoping Lars van der Haar could show the kind of improvement Aerts did this year. He still hasn't managed anything like that. His technical limitations continue to harm his chances, although he does retain the ability to do very well in specific races he targets. Not quite well enough for this WC though, unfortunately.

    It was an interesting world cup, with a well deserved winner. Now just two classifications for Mathieu to lock down, and he can happily finish his best and most dominant cross season yet.
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    Re: General Cyclocross News
    « Reply #179 on: February 04, 2019, 20:00 »
    VdP did not display quite the sort of dominance we have seen from him but the super fast course and the improved surface conditions (Saturday was far worse) surely levelled things out. Meanwhile he is mixing in endurance training during the week now and that will also take a toll on him. Even so, you could still see he made fewer mistakes than everyone else once he got into space at the front.

    Van Aert burned up matches to get back on only to lose it time and again in all sorts of little ways and with him, in the end, I think a lot of the gap was mental because it took the return of Aerts for him to buck up and charge forward again. Aerts was just Aerts, as always, super strong, big engine but a slow starter who takes a good 30 minutes to get hot.

    That was how I saw it anyway, for what it's worth. It sort of summed up the season except that I would have preferred Aerts to get silver because he has been the bigger story among the Belgians this year.

    On a similar note, I was also a bit disappointed by Brand. I know she is technically far less proficient than Cant who was, as usual, completely reliable and has been ever since she hit form. Brand screwed up so many times that I had to agree with the CyclingTips view that the fall in the pits was by no means the main cause of her collapse. The many who claim it was have been watching the highlights instead of the whole race. And Brand, like Aerts, has been the revelation of the season, really, taking a big step up. Perhaps the stripes were a lot to expect but it would have made a fine story.

    Pidcock just destroyed the U23 race and Alvarado didn't have it in the end of hers. Both nice races though and the future looks pretty bright for the sport in terms of the next wave of stars.
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