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Re: Darkside - General news
« Reply #2071 on: November 18, 2019, 19:44 »
the article is a bit confusing, it seems like there are two basically independent incidents. As far as I can see:

1st one is, that he raced with a (for whatever reason) not (yet) validated license, and got penalized for that.

2nd is, that he lied to an organizer, who apparently doesn't want ex-dopers at his events.
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2072 on: February 10, 2020, 16:34 »
    Apparently no doping control at Étoile de Bessèges, according to Magnus Cort Nielsen.

    https://twitter.com/Vaughters/status/1226904093685248000
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2073 on: February 10, 2020, 17:50 »
    not good, but with so many races at the same time, I guess it's not too unusual, especially on 2.1 level.

    No idea how it really works though. In the Romanian races I've been to, for example, some years there are controls, and in others there are not. I guess the UCI/CAFD decides to send a DCO or not, and if they don't, the National Federation is free to decide if they want to do some testing?!
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2074 on: February 19, 2020, 14:12 »
    So, tell us, what are the rumor mills and all saying about Quintana's Ventoux?
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2075 on: February 22, 2020, 17:26 »
    A bit disappointed how the Astana stories went cold so quickly. Movement from CADF/UCI had been expected for a year or so but it didn't get far enough. Some people apparently talked but it was already too late because the structures had evolved since then. There are a lot of proxies in doping these days and it's easy enough to switch them around when things get suss. So it looks like it's going to be a big baby blue year of rubbing our noses in it.
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2076 on: February 28, 2020, 05:23 »
    So this is encouraging.  :S

    Spanish police take down doping wholesaler and seize 1.6 million drug doses

    The investigation began after 100 boxes of growth hormone were sent to the wrong address last July.
     :lol

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    In total, 1.65 million drug doses were found, totalling 40,000 boxes of 140 different oral and injectable substances. This included 1.3 million units of anabolic or other injectable products and 31,000 doses of growth hormone.

    Those involved in the operation used at least seven web pages to offer EPO and other performance-enhancing drugs to customers for at least the last 10 years, with authorities saying they expect a large number of national and international athletes to be implicated.

    Good thing the '90s are behind us! :cool  :shh
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2077 on: May 18, 2020, 19:03 »
    #ef Luis Villalobos tested positive for GHRP-6 in 2019 (when he was still with #aevolo Aevolo)

    https://twitter.com/UCI_media/status/1262435612969361411
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2079 on: June 23, 2020, 21:28 »
    Kanstantin sivtsov (or how he likes to spell his name I am not sure) gets 4 years for epo. No practical consequences since he has retired from racing.

    However, what kind of publication is cycling weekly? They report it like this:
    https://twitter.com/cyclingweekly/status/1275519198329004032

    That looks like a poor attempt at trying to smear Team Sky. The convicted rider had 1 season for #dimensiondata and two for #bahrain after leaving Sky, and his positive test related to a race while he was riding for #bahrain.

    Cycling Weekly also could have targeted the Bielorussian ministry of sports, which have close links to the current last  dictator in Europe. They´re all kind of dodgdy, but it doesn´t generator clicks in the same way.
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2080 on: June 24, 2020, 00:52 »
    However, what kind of publication is cycling weekly?

    It's a British publication, no? They may have been using the Sky reference just to make the story relevant to their reader base. Otherwise, the response may have been, "Who?"

    Just a thought.
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2081 on: June 24, 2020, 08:20 »
    It's a British publication, no? They may have been using the Sky reference just to make the story relevant to their reader base. Otherwise, the response may have been, "Who?"

    Just a thought.

    Bahrain-McLaren and Dimension Data also have strong ties to the UK, so while I partly agree with you - Cycling Weekly seem to go all in on the largest clickckbait they could find, including the photo.
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2082 on: June 24, 2020, 11:42 »
    However, what kind of publication is cycling weekly?
    They are often nicknamed "Cycling Weakly". I'll let you draw the conclusions. ;)
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2083 on: June 25, 2020, 00:06 »
    Kanstantin sivtsov (or how he likes to spell his name I am not sure) gets 4 years for epo. No practical consequences since he has retired from racing.

    However, what kind of publication is cycling weekly? They report it like this:
    https://twitter.com/cyclingweekly/status/1275519198329004032

    That looks like a poor attempt at trying to smear Team Sky. The convicted rider had 1 season for #dimensiondata and two for #bahrain after leaving Sky, and his positive test related to a race while he was riding for #bahrain.

    Cycling Weekly also could have targeted the Bielorussian ministry of sports, which have close links to the current last  dictator in Europe. They´re all kind of dodgdy, but it doesn´t generator clicks in the same way.

    I also followed the link to the Cycling Weakly story.  They are poor. 

    Not because of the link - being weak, but becasue they can't be bothered to work out how deep it is.  Kanstantin was at Barloworld in 2007 with Thomas and Swift.   After that he went to HTC and stayed there with Cavendish, moving across to Sky with Cavendish. 

    Then of course, when Cavendish left for Dimension Data and then Bahrain, He followed albeit running out his contract at Sky so he was there four years.

    Looking at that 2007 Barloworld rosta and trying to imagine anyone there riding clean would take a awful lot of faith. 

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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2085 on: July 25, 2020, 19:25 »
    .........................but becasue they can't be bothered to work out how deep it is.  Kanstantin was at Barloworld in 2007 with Thomas and Swift.   After that he went to HTC and stayed there with Cavendish, moving across to Sky with Cavendish.........................
     
    Looking at that 2007 Barloworld rosta and trying to imagine anyone there riding clean would take a awful lot of faith.

    May your god look after you.


    Just looking at some old magazines for an article on Froome on his debut Tour in 2008 with Barloworld and see that there were up to three brits on the Barloworld rosta with Cummings joining them.
    Also saw an event that I had entirely forgotten - Barloworld's Moises Duenas kicked off the Tour stage 11 for EPO.

    Clicked on his record.  Like many a good doper, his best years were after his positive. He then served his ban and then must have ridden clean, a reformed character, because he never tested positive again.  Up to 2008 he had only had 5 victories.  In 2012 alone he had 7.  Just shows, doping slows you down !
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2086 on: July 26, 2020, 09:43 »
    https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1287130968747397126?

    Looks like a good book to read USSR doping
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2087 on: July 27, 2020, 22:23 »
    Looks like a good book to read USSR doping

    I couldn't get the Twitter link to work last time so I'm only reading that thread just now.

    For some reason, I never got around to watching Icarus. It's definitely on my To Do List, though.

    Some interesting stuff revealed here, that's for sure, especially the bit about the 1984 Olympics. :S

    https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1287133031673856011

    https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1287143898192764928

    https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1287144183040479235
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2088 on: August 17, 2020, 09:21 »
    July 29, 2020

    Johann Lienhart banned for helping son dope

    VIENNA — Former three-time Olympic cyclist Johann Lienhart has been banned for 10 years for providing his son, a professional triathlete, with illegal performance-enhancing substances.

    The Austrian Anti-Doping Legal Committee said Tuesday that the 60-year-old Lienhart supplied his son with EPO, genotropine and testosterone between December 2018 and March 2019.

    The committee also said that Lienhart “encouraged, instructed and supported” his son in using doping.

    His son, two-time Austrian national triathlon champion Florian Lienhart, was caught doping and provisionally suspended in 2019, before being banned for four years last February.

    Johann Lienhart was one of Austria’s leading cyclists in the 1980s and competed at three Olympics between 1980 and 1988. He won the national road title in 1983 and was part of the Austrian team that won bronze at the time trial of the 1987 world championships.




    It just never ends. It never will end. :fp
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2089 on: August 19, 2020, 07:23 »
    An 80-year-old cycling grandma set a world record. Then she was accused of doping.



    August 18, 2020 at 7:00 a.m. EDT
    When her private, year-long nightmare finally became public, in the form of a terse news release, Barbara Gicquel sat down at the keyboard and started typing.

    “The time has come for me to fill you in on why I have been fairly incommunicado since Sept. 27th of last year,” she wrote in a recent Facebook post for family and friends. “I did not feel I could talk with you and be real about what was happening in my life that was difficult to share … difficult on many levels.”

    Nearly a year ago, Gicquel, an 80-year-old grandmother, therapist and avid cyclist from California, set a world record for her age group at the 2019 USA Cycling Masters Track National Championships. She had been a regular on the medal podium at masters cycling events for years and was thrilled with her latest achievement.

    But because a record was involved, Gicquel was subject to drug testing. She failed the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency’s urine test, which set off a year-long legal battle and raised questions about whether prescription medication that Gicquel had used for years enhanced her performance on the track.

    “It’s been a roller-coaster ride emotionally,” she told The Washington Post in an email, “fraught with anxiety, some depression, and disbelief that they wanted to believe I was doping, rather than just trying to live.”
    Gicquel took up cycling at 57 and wasn’t content pedaling around the neighborhood. Twice she traversed the country, trying to ride in every velodrome in the United States. She has raced in about a dozen now and is at home navigating the steep, sharp-angled turns around the track.

    “Racing motivates me to work hard,” she said. “It’s been great fun to race, and so I’ve worked hard almost daily to be able to do it well.”

    A doctor first prescribed her a drug called Estratest in 2005 to treat bronchitis and issues related to menopause. She had also developed chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Since then, she has taken a half-tablet every other day and, she said, thought little about the effects it could have on her cycling. She faced drug testing following other age-group records but never tested positive until Aug. 29, 2019, when at 79 she broke her own mark in the 500-meter time trials. Estratest contains an anabolic steroid called methyltestosterone that has long been on the World Anti-Doping Agency’s list of banned substances.

    “I did break a rule by taking a banned substance,” she concedes. “But I did not dope.”

    Because the medicine was doctor-approved, Gicquel tried to obtain a retroactive therapeutic use exemption. The request was denied by USADA because she “did not establish a medical condition that required the use of methyltestosterone,” according to an arbitrator’s decision on her case. Gicquel said the original prescribing doctor was no longer practicing in California, and the medical clinic didn’t have her years-old medical records on file. According to the arbitrator’s decision, USADA “concluded that methyltestosterone ‘on a balance of probabilities is likely to produce performance enhancement beyond what would be considered a return to a normal state of health.’ ”

    Gicquel said she initially learned about five years ago that Estratest contained a banned substance but felt it probably wouldn’t disqualify her because of her low dosage and advanced age. She wrote in her appeal that “it was easy to justify that since the list was written with young elite female athletes in mind, it really wasn’t meant for older women like myself, so I continued to take it as prescribed, fearful that if I didn’t, [my condition] might well get worse and I might lose my health and even my life earlier than necessary.”

    After years of smoking and several bouts with bronchitis, she felt the drug was providing important health benefits, not athletic ones.
    Gicquel failed to include it on her list of medications she submitted before competing last August.

    “Unfortunately, it doesn’t matter to USADA that I took a small amount of it for valid health reasons,” she said. “It mattered only that I had taken it knowing that it was on the banned substance list.”

    USADA doesn’t typically test veteran athletes at masters events, but a negative doping test is required to certify any cycling records. The anti-doping agency encountered a similar case last year when it sanctioned a 90-year-old cyclist named Carl Grove. Doping officials determined Grove’s positive drug test wasn’t intentional and was “more likely than not caused by contaminated meat.” Grove was issued a warning and stripped of his recent world record.'

    In Gicquel’s case, the arbitrator’s decision cast some doubt that the medication substantially affected her performance, noting she had previously passed anti-doping tests while taking Estratest, which lends “some credence to the idea that it was in such small amounts that it did not provide a competitive advantage.”

    “Because there are so few athletes actively competing at her age, the evidence presented to demonstrate that Estratest gave her a competitive advantage is thin and derives from the assumption that methyltestosterone helps the performance of all athletes, regardless of their age,” the arbitrator wrote.

    But in upholding USADA’s determination, the arbitrator also said Gicquel failed a transparency test by failing to disclose the drug and seemed “to make a unilateral decision that the anti-doping rules ceased to apply after the athlete achieved a certain age.”

    “No one can know if any competitor would have beaten her if she had ceased taking Estratest after she learned that it contained methyltestosterone or whether she might have won competitions and even broken world records without taking Estratest,” the arbitrator said.

    Gicquel said she spent thousands of dollars fighting the ruling and disputing terms of the sanction. USADA officials didn’t have much leeway. The International Cycling Union, the world’s governing body for the sport, has a doping code that clearly states, “It is each Rider’s personal duty to ensure that no Prohibited Substance enters his or her body.”

    Gicquel was disappointed with the arbitrator’s opinion. “The fight in me was gone,” she said. “I just wanted this to end.” Gicquel accepted a one-year suspension, and the arbitrator ruled her race results since August 2015, when she first learned Estratest contained a banned substance, would be wiped from the books, including her national and world age-group records.

    Her period of ineligibility began last August, which means she’ll soon be eligible to compete again, if she chooses, moving into to the 80-85 age group. Gicquel still uses an inhaler daily, and she said her doctor has told her that exercise staves off a decline in her lung function. The way she sees it, she needs cycling, and she needs her medication. Gicquel could have both — and take aim at future world records — but she probably would need a therapeutic use exemption from USADA before returning to competition.

    “I truly believe USADA rules should be altered and that riders should be able to take prescribed medications,” she said. “No wonder there are so few older women riders competing in Track. Masters age group racing should be fun. Allowing reasonable prescriptions like mine, to combat [chronic obstructive pulmonary disease] or whatever other ailments older folk inevitably come by, would seem to me a good and healthy change in USADA.”

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    No mention anywhere as to why she didn't declare it in her list of TUEs. Sounds legit.
     :shh
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2090 on: August 19, 2020, 10:52 »
    No mention anywhere as to why she didn't declare it in her list of TUEs. Sounds legit.
     :shh
    Yeah, no.

    She's known for five years that her medication contained a banned substance:
    Gicquel said she initially learned about five years ago that Estratest contained a banned substance but felt it probably wouldn’t disqualify her because of her low dosage and advanced age. She wrote in her appeal that “it was easy to justify that since the list was written with young elite female athletes in mind, it really wasn’t meant for older women like myself, so I continued to take it as prescribed, fearful that if I didn’t, [my condition] might well get worse and I might lose my health and even my life earlier than necessary.”
    She should have applied for a TUE then, and would likely have gotten one.
    Thinking "it won't matter because I'm not 25" is just plain negligent.
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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2091 on: August 19, 2020, 14:19 »
    I feel for her.

    But she has known for some time that it was on the banned list .... and failed to get a TUE, and more to the point, failed to list it on her medications.  She basically knew it was wrong, just hoping not to get picked up because 'the rules dont apply to me'

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    Re: Darkside - General news
    « Reply #2092 on: September 08, 2020, 13:05 »
    https://www.uci.org/inside-uci/press-releases/uci-statement-on-patrick-schelling

    #israel Patrick Schelling tested positive for terbutaline in February, has been handed a four-month ban (18 May to 17 September) for a "non-intentional anti-doping rule violation".
    He also loses his results from the Tour of Rwanda where he finished third overall.

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    With regards to the UCI decision to impose a sanction on Israel Start-Up Nation rider Patrick Schelling for using an anti-asthma banned substance, ISN has made the following statement:
    “We are disappointed that our rider Patrick Schelling had an Adverse Analytical Finding for an asthma medicine, in Tour of Rwanda of this year, that then resulted in four months of ineligibility. ISN was not aware that Mr. Schelling was taking this substance, as it was not declared to the team. We accept the sanction by the UCI, which was imposed in accordance with the Anti-Doping Rules. ISN will deal with this internally to ensure that such violations are not repeated.”
    Mr. Schelling’s statement: “I have suffered from asthma since childhood. It was an unintentional mistake to use a non-allowed asthma spray, and I would like to apologize to the authorities, to the team, and to the whole cycling family. It has never been my intention to damage the image of cycling, I regret my wrongdoing and I take full responsibility for my error in judgment.”
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