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How is that "masking"?
They still injected the player. In cycling terms this would be an out-of-competition test, wouldn't it?
Unless of course they injected a substance that isn't banned, like common painkillers...

there are certain injections they are not allowed to have to continue playing - but are allowed to have after the game.

so its masking the fact that they had that injection during the game.

Seems a bit lame though - surely the testers would stay with them from the moment they are notified of the test until they gave a sample? 

Still - there is a story that in Queensland in a rugby stadium they found a couple of vials of urine samples hidden in the plumbing ... lots of dodgy practices going on
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    there are certain injections they are not allowed to have to continue playing - but are allowed to have after the game.

    so its masking the fact that they had that injection during the game.

    Seems a bit lame though - surely the testers would stay with them from the moment they are notified of the test until they gave a sample? 

    Still - there is a story that in Queensland in a rugby stadium they found a couple of vials of urine samples hidden in the plumbing ... lots of dodgy practices going on

    which the club involved does not think has anything to do with doping :fp
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    Now it is the ASADA´s fault

    Anti-doping agencies have dropped the ball

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    And the true message for footy this week is that while it does have a problem it is better placed than the dopey drug agencies to take care of its own backyard.

    plus some less stupid stuff
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    that is just stupid.

    so its not the fault of the football clubs or players that they are taking drugs ... its ASADA's fault for not catching them.

    as for the 'budget' - the AFL pays ASADA about $500,000 per year according to that article.   If its just AFL players in the testing pool and not state leagues ... that makes a budget of $781 per player ... pretty sure each test costs more than that - so less than 1 test per player per season.

    and they wonder why there has not been a positive test since Justin Charles.
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    that is just stupid.

    so its not the fault of the football clubs or players that they are taking drugs ... its ASADA's fault for not catching them.

    as for the 'budget' - the AFL pays ASADA about $500,000 per year according to that article.   If its just AFL players in the testing pool and not state leagues ... that makes a budget of $781 per player ... pretty sure each test costs more than that - so less than 1 test per player per season.

    and they wonder why there has not been a positive test since Justin Charles.

    Just wanting to sell newspapers and put the blame on someone

    Put it on the players, The teams , the AFL and ASADA

    Give ASADA 3-4 million a year to test and research, that is what the AFL should do , independent testing biopassport the full banana they won´t ofc they also do not want postive tests

    I bet some player about to be cut from a club is found positive soon

    so the spotlight moves on to that individual away from the AFL
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    there are certain injections they are not allowed to have to continue playing - but are allowed to have after the game.

    so its masking the fact that they had that injection during the game.

    Seems a bit lame though - surely the testers would stay with them from the moment they are notified of the test until they gave a sample? 

    Still - there is a story that in Queensland in a rugby stadium they found a couple of vials of urine samples hidden in the plumbing ... lots of dodgy practices going on
    Thanks for the explanation.

    Regarding the bolded - you have watched too much cycling. :P
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    For those not in Aus, there are 2 issues here, and lots of people (including the media) get really confused about stuff.

    1 - Performance Enhancing Drugs.  Whilst we are all clear about PED's and what is involved, many in Aus are not.  The AFL signed the WADA code in 2005 only after being basically forced to by the Australian Government (funding would be withdrawn if they didnt).

    They are allowed infusions etc (the no needle policy for cyclists is not a WADA thing) but there are some restrictions on what they are allowed.  This is likely to be reviewed now though ... possibly with all infusions being banned.

    2 - illicit/recreational drugs.   Recreational drugs are a HUGE problem in football in Australia.  Basically, alcohol puts on weight whereas drugs dont ...

    The AFL has a "three strikes" policy.  They do out of competition and in-competition testing for illicit drugs (as well as PED's).  The first 'strike' ONLY the player gets notified.  Not the club and not the AFL.  Second strike the club gets notified, and third strike they get a 12 month ban.  Even for out of competition.

    The AFL have taken a lot of stick for this ... many people saying it is simply too lenient (even though most sports do not have a ban at all for out-of-competition recreational drugs.

    A few years ago, one of the clubs (west coast eagles) captain, club champion and brownlow medalist (league MVP) had some issues, and eventually admitted to having a major drug addiction.  He had never tested posative, but was banned from football for 12 months for bringing the game into disrepute.  He was involved in a local bikie group ... which is presumably where he sourced his drugs.

    At that time, many clubs all distanced themselves saying 'oh no, we definitely dont have a drug problem' etc .. but I do believe that many have at least attempted to sort some things out.

    Anyway - the ACCC report that many clubs / players are involved with criminal associates etc is not actually that surprising to many clubs.  Collingwood especially has been surrounded by rumours for quite some time about the activities of a number of its players (one player was in a car involved in a gang related drive-by shooting a couple of years ago)

    But that all is one side of things - and the PED's / sports science is another.  They are 2 separate issues, but seem to get really muddled in the media and the minds of the fans here.
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    Dank Interviewed on the 7.30 report

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    Ex-Hawk in deal to sell peptides

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    Fairfax Media can also reveal that about 50 serving and former professional sportsmen, including players from six NRL clubs - Cronulla, Manly, Canberra, Penrith, the Newcastle Knights and North Queensland - are under scrutiny over their personal supplement use. Fairfax Media is not suggesting the players breached doping rules, but their supplement use is being examined by authorities.

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    Dank Interviewed on the 7.30 report

    The interview 

    lol I believe him until he got asked about the peptides.
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    NRL in 'dob-in-a-doper' plea

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    AFL credibility = Toilet

    500 000 fine for match fixing and then watch the money come to the deomns at the ned of year bail out from other clubs

    No draft penalties likely for Melbourne 

    but Melbourne get the benefits of tanking :fp

    5 years time that 500 000 might be a distant memory
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    seriously  :fp
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    Police quizzed star on his payments
    Hird the squeaky clean champion is getting dirty 
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    Maybe an explanation for Woewodin being an elite midfielder for only one season?
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    Maybe an explanation for Woewodin being an elite midfielder for only one season?

    aye seems weird to go off the gear when you know the AFL has no idea though but make sense
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    Probably had a nice contract at Collingwood for sitting in the back pocket.

    Thing with AFL is that it's probably leading the world in the booze/drugs culture. They may be on PEDs but there are 40-50 days a year where they are getting absolutely wrecked so a guy on EPO might not have that much of an advantage if his lifestyle is sh*t. Elite endurance athletes (runners/cyclists/skiers) hardly touch the stuff for 6 months in season.
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    True re the booze Party drug culture makes sense really

    Big Carpets at AFL house imported from Switzerland ?
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    FEARS have been raised among players that the practice of micro-doping – common in sports such as cycling and athletics – might have been practised by rogue individuals in the AFL.

    Concerns have been expressed to the AFL Players Association that a small number of players might have been taking tiny, undetectable amounts of performance-enhancing substances such as testosterone and human growth hormone, or its equivalents.

    The AFLPA has been made aware that players might have used arm patches – similar to nicotine patches – that contain testosterone, or have used creams with properties similar to HGH.


    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afls-testosterone-fears-20130227-2f6dx.html#ixzz2M75O1RML

    Naive morons  :fp 
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