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Sagan supporter.

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Can Sagan return to his winning ways?  Is Bennati, Breschel and Bodnar enough?  Are Deglenkolb, Kristoff, etc encroaching on his specialty?

I think for one Sagan needs to get his fitness straightened out ... I for one trust Julich w this responsibility.
I think his and the teams tactics have left something to be desired ... I hope Riis will help, curious what he prescribes.

The three Bs aren't enough, but will hopefully rise to the Occasion.  Other then the classics Sagan should be fine, w US races (specialized), barring no changes to green jersey rules, etc.  I think one important thing was how much Sagan benefited being a second option at Cdale w Nibali there.  Tinkoffs GC might/ players should be able to deliver Peter a few victories!
1. Less pressure ~ even w contract
2. Peloton control n Pacing on climbs
***3. They have the strength to be at the finish of races to deliver timely assistance!  Something lacking at Cdale.

Even with increased competition an on form Sagan w a stronger team should win uphill sprints and sprints at end of difficult stages.
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    I've let suspicion (or skepticism, your choice of words) temper my enthusiasm for Sagan - but yesterday's Stage 16 descent in the Tour was magnificent. He made that one of the most memorable stages, at least of this year, if not for a few years. Kinda like Nibali's famous descent, or DeGendt's famous break, or Pinot's breakout win.

    This is one rider who consistently attacks and rides excitingly and exceedingly well.

    Chapeau, Peter! I'll have to start cheering for him to win!
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    It was a cracking bit of descending
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    not a fan girl ...

    but his performances in this Tour have been impressive.   He has fought for the points on every stage, in every intermediate sprint ... fought for the break and fought for the win when he made it.

    And his descending skills (and overall skills) are incredible.

    :pray
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    . . .

    :pray
    :rofl !

    I hear he can not live in Slovakia any more. He gets mobbed whenever people see him - making it impossible for him to do anything approaching normal. One of the podcasts said that there were like 4 Slovakians competing in their nationals - but they got national tv coverage because of Peter! Cycling has become their 2nd national sport (after ice hockey) because of Peter's success.

    Fortunately Sagan has not yet succumbed to a wunderkind mentality - he seems to maintain his humility and humor. Ahem, sorry, I should say he has maintained what humility he had to start with!

    It would be nice to see a team supporting him - but he would probably have to take a cut in pay!

    Actually, I kind of like things the way they are. Tinkov is such a Steinbrenner - if they (the team) can put up with him - and just take the money - they certainly have provided entertainment! If Contador is not on top, we have Sagan. And, just to keep the stew interesting on the off day, we have Tinkov. Who IS one who has succumbed to wunderkind mentality. "I'm rich, so that means I am smart and I am right. And you should pay attention - and don't forget to bow on your way out."

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  • « Last Edit: July 22, 2015, 12:48 by hiero, Reason: correction Slovenia / Slovakia »

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    I hear he can not live in Slovenia any more. He gets mobbed whenever people see him - making it impossible for him to do anything approaching normal. One of the podcasts said that there were like 4 Slovenians competing in their nationals - but they got national tv coverage because of Peter! Cycling has become their 2nd national sport (after ice hockey) because of Peter's success.

    Slovakia.
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  • Cycling is a Europe thing only and I only watch from Omloop on cause I am cool and sh*t
    RIP Craig1985 / Craig Walsh
    RIP KeithJamesMc / Keith McMahon

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    Slovakia.

    And he definitely can't go out in Czechoslovenia
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    Slovakia.

    Ooops. Complete face-palm embarrassment. You are so right. I will fix that immediately.
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    « Reply #71 on: July 24, 2015, 04:37 »
     :D
    I love Peter Sagan new look! He's obviously has been working out! ;-)  He's is the best man for the green jersey win!  Any Sagan fans?
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    Gia

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    « Reply #72 on: July 24, 2015, 08:31 »
    you need to work on your thread title a bit here... :angel
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    I don't even know how to work this site…Sadly, I know.  :-(  I am new here. 
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    well - :welcome    (even if you are a Sagan fan   :P  )


    he certainly has been having a great Tour.  Deserving of green, and should win most combative overall as well if they do the right thing
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    well - :welcome    (even if you are a Sagan fan   :P  )


    he certainly has been having a great Tour.  Deserving of green, and should win most combative overall as well if they do the right thing

    Has he got a French passport?  :shh
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    feel free to come and join us in live chat for the racing

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    Yaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyuuuhhhooooooooooooooooo :P

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    Fairly scandalous that we haven't had an update to this thread in light of recent events.

    Uncle Shane's article attempts to discover the real Sagan ...

    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/10/the-real-peter-sagan-beneath-the-surface-who-is-the-new-world-champion/

    ... and fails to a large extent because it's still a bunch of fairly bland vox pops about a young man whose character has been obfuscated by hungry media, polemics and an unprecedented amount of hype.

    Not that anyone has some sort of right to know his character, of course, and I think we should remember that. I think it's better that he remains an enigma. That's what sporting legends are made of.

    The Sagan of 2015 is still horsing around but he has completed many more races and lost a lot of them too. He is also still as fascinating to watch albeit thankfully more for his on-the-bike exploits nowadays.

    I have certainly warmed up to him more this year. How about you?

    PS. Screw Tinkov! :P
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    I've certainly warmed up to him this year too, although not as much through his exploits in the TdF although they certainly were impressive.

    I have to say the moment I really started to like him was when he got hit by the moto and showed his anger in the Vuelta. Although we certainly want to see less of that type of incident, it's always great to see a sportsperson show real passion.

    His Richmond win was also highly impressive and will hopefully banish any doubts that he is capable of such big victories in the minds of fans (and probably for himself). I have to say I thought that the rise of Degenkolb and Kristoff might have put an end to many of Sagan's opportunities, filling in a niche which he had previously occupied by himself. I'm not a great fan of Degenkolb and even less so of Kristoff, so great to see Sagan's style and panache win out on this occasion.

    Also have to say that there are few moments that really make me think "wow" in pro cycling. Nibali's Il Lombardia descent was one, Sagan's pedalling whilst sat on his top tube in Richmond is another. That is what he is capable of and hopefully we will see more of it with a monument win in the next year or two.
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    This piece, a visit and interviews with Peter Sagan's family is a good notch better than most sports journalism out there.  Recommended!
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    Joelsim: The huge winner today - Landa.
    just some guy: Aye he marginal gained the flip out of it

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    He's also taken to cooking now: :cool
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    Now he has TWO rainbow jerseys, and a Kurne-Bussels-Kurne. And more 2nds than you can shake a stick at. Topped with a personality to rival or even best Cippolini. AND, he can win in a multiple of styles - sprinting or lone break or out of a small break.

    I think, that when he is done, we will have the first true rival for Merckx in the history books.

    Lovin' it.
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    He's also taken to cooking now: :cool


    " . . .I don't know, how it's possible. I can cook." 

    A TRUE Sagan quote for all time. That has got to be one of the greatest, Super Bowl level, ads for all time. Funny as hell!
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    Hi everybody! VN had a small article about Sagan here:
    http://www.velonews.com/2017/03/commentary/how-does-peter-sagan-do-it_431497

    But the MEAT and VN's source was nrc.nl, here:

    https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/02/24/in-the-land-of-peter-sagan-a1547723

    Lovely article. I'm not sure what to make of the sidebar commentary on Helena Sagan and Lubomir Sagan's (mom and dad)  housing arrangement. But otherwise, the research and article offer some very interesting insight.
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    You can't repeat a good thing too often   :)

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    Another great quote, but this from the Bora team manager:
    Quote
    he’s an artist that you cannot play. He’s an artist on the bike.

    From Velonews.
    http://www.velonews.com/2017/03/news/bora-director-canny-tactics-could-expose-sagans-weaknesses_432799

    BTW, did you see the tweeted clip of Sagan dodging a pedestrian with a dog in the TT? Beautiful, but I'll bet he was ticked off! Pedestrian was oblivious.
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    I'm wondering how anybody can be a Buddhist and an admirer of Sagan.  :shh Must be the men's duality.
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  • "Paris-Roubaix is the biggest cycling race in the world, bigger than the Tour de France, bigger than any other bike race" (Sir Bradley Wiggins)

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    I'm wondering how anybody can be a Buddhist and an admirer of Sagan.  :shh Must be the men's duality.

    Huh? Buddhist? You TOTALLY lost me on this one, Ech!

    Pozzato calls Sagan numero uno - for ALL TIME.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pozzato-for-me-sagan-is-the-strongest-rider-of-all-time/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cyclingnews%2Fnews+%28Cyclingnews+Latest+News%29

    But Milan San Remo is not so predictable. We've had some interesting racing already this year - maybe we'll get luck with M-SR!

    Cheers all;

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