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Michael Rasmussen interviewed by Radu Naum on Digisport.ro
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Naum: Michael, nowadays and for the last past years, everybody is asking, about what they see on cycling sport, if what they see is the truth and nothing but the truth about cycling. After 15 years of doping scandals and you name it, all these problems that cycling had, you know, we have again a new generation that is speaking again about clean cycling and there are a lot of people saying we don’t know what to think about it. What should we think about it.

Rasmussen: Well, I hope they can believe what they see, I do not want cycling to be in a situation where we once again have to rewrite history in five years from now. Em, and honestly I do believe that things are moving in a better direction now, but, to believe that doping has disappeared from cycling or from the sport in general would be very naive I think.

Everybody is wondering, why people, sport, athletes, cyclists mostly, dope themselves because everybody keeps saying that you can compete being clean. Is that the case.

Well you can, err, you can compete clean and you could do that also ten years ago. You could also finish a Tour de France clean, you just couldn’t win it.

Is it, like Lance Armstrong was saying, you cannot win the Tour de France if you are not putting your body some illegal substances.

Well if you look at history, there’s a lot of indications saying that Lance is right about that, I think its important to bear in mind that once the Tour de France was invented, so to speak, 110 years ago, it was a competition that it lasted for six days, and it did 2400km in six days. On old bikes, that are not even close to what we are riding on today, so instantly you had created a sports event that was attracting some very crazy people, and obviously those people, to do that, they had to do crazy things, and I think from there on it just developed and it became a culture, and it takes a long time to change a culture.

Eddy Merckx said after Lance Armstrongs statement about how can you win or not win the Tour, just said that "not everybody is like that, you can win the Tour without doping. " Merckx, five time winner, one of the biggest cyclists of all time in cycling according to many, who should we believe?

I think Lance is probably more on the mark than Merck is bearing in mind Merckx tested posted himself

That’s true, in 1968

So I’m leaning towards Lance in this matter say.

What is your personal history about that, about the culture, the cycling, how is it about you, was there just a certain moment you realised you cannot win big competitions without EPO for example?

Well its something that you just getting introduced to very slowly, nobody when they are. I wanted to be a cyclist since I was give years old, and obviously as a five year old or ten year old, whenever you start riding a bike, you have no desires to stick needles into your arm. Its a completely different drive you have at that point. And then after you have been doing all these of these sacrifices for a long long time, then you hit this culture that I was describing that has started 110 years ago, when people were doing crazy things like taking rat poison or riding on cognac, or whatever they did right. Then after the first world war they were taking stimulants, then after the second world war somebody invented steroids and they were taking that and so on. So its important to understand that EPO was not invented by Lance Armstrong or Michael Rasmussen, we just at a certain point in our career we were hitting that culture and being introduced to it, and that’s where you have to make the decision, say OK, do I want to keep moving in that direction that my career has been going all the time, or do I want to stop right here.

Its about stopping right there?

Well, do I want to stop the progress in my cycling career, I was winning championships, medals at the world championships when I was a junior, and riding very well.

You were clean that time?

Oh yes, absolutely, I was 100% clean, and I was clean when I was setting the all time record watt per kg in Denmark, but at a certain point it was just not enough any longer

And at what point did you realise that?

Well it, happened like when, basically just around the Festina scandal in 1998. I think that actually worked as publicity for doping than the opposite, because up till then it was kind of a secret society, but after that everything was exposed, and I think from there on it really spread to the entire world.

So, it wasn’t a good thing, all this scandal, because everybody said from now on, we discovered the evil of the sport, of cycling and now they wont do that again, it was the opposite?

I think for a lot of people it was, oh, is this the way it works, and I think really it was spreading, its like circles in the water from that point on. And it was, it has just been following the same development as it had in the previous hundred years.

And when you discover it, its just like demanding for it, or somebody else come and said this is the way you have to win, how does this kind of thing work?

Somebody, nobody has ever pushed me to do things, its always been my own free will, its just a simple desire to be the best and to be the best at all means.

What was the ERA of Lance Armstrong because you know its very difficult for us, in the beginning it was 98 Festina that really changed the face of, the looking at the people as to the cycling, the world of sport. And then we find out that in fact Lance Armstrong continued to do that thing, with the certain complicity of the International Organisation of Cycling, and of course, the other ones follow and so on and so on. How was that time, how was the ERA, because outside we are saying, now maybe they are cleaner than before, maybe we are going in the right direction, how was inside the world of cycling.

Inside, I think inside the world of cycling nothing really changed, like there were people, there were people taking drugs the same day that they were sending the Festina team home, erm, and people they did it the next day again, and the day after again, you cannot change the culture like that. Its like you want to turn a supertanker in a little lake, and before you manage to do that its going to hit the edges a few times, I think , and honestly I believe that lots of the journalists that had been covering the Tour for many many years they had been very well aware of these facts, but they just played along with the cyclists and the culture, and at a certain point everything was exposed, and at the same time the journalists themselves were exposed, as being so ignorant, in this case, and obviously its a lot easier for a journalist to change his standpoint 180 degrees than it is for an entire culture to turn around 180 degrees, it takes a lot of time to do that. But I am optimistic, and I believe that it is going in the right direction.

What is your perspective on Lance Armstrong, because you was riding with him, alongside him, he was like a boss on the peloton, he was really punishing the ones who were speaking against him or against doping, and afterwards he was exposed. But how were those times with Armstrong?

I still have a lot of respect for Lance Armstrong, what he did on the bike and what he did off the bike, I think Armstrong he did a lot of good things, he created a lot of publicity for cycling and he made an entire nation ride bikes up until Armstrong cycling was unknown in the United States, and if you look at the entire cycling community right now it has a long of Anglo Saxon influence, many of the big teams are based in the US, and there were none before Lance Armstrong. Of course he also has, there’s a dark side to that story as well, and I believe it was Bernard Hinault that said "to win the Tour de Trance you have to be a bastard" and Lance Armstrong was the biggest bastard of all of them.

He was really like, honestly I cannot share your point of view because I couldn’t have any respect for Lance Armstrong because he lied for so many years, but not only lying, he organised a kind of Mafia in the peloton. You and other guys were just doing that to yourselves, but it seems like Armstrong was doing that to all the people, around the planet, to be a believer and whoever wasn’t a believer had to be punished. Wasn’t that a really bad poison culture that cycling inherited after Armstrong?

Well there’s no doubt that he certainly took the whole threatening and intimidation part to another level, and that he was very close in it with the UCI, International Cycling Union, but as an athlete you cannot win the Tour de France seven times without being an extraordinary athlete, there’s no doubt about that. The guy he won the professional road championships in 93, when he was 21 years old, he was the youngest world champion.

Maybe he was under substances even then, I don’t know?

It could be, but nevertheless he beat a lot of the guys that were riding on the same premises [sic] so I really don't think he was cheating any of his competitors at that point. He was just the best.

How is the situation today, because maybe in the 90's we saw that all the riders were very strong. Now there seem to be strong riders, weak riders, some of the people will say even in the time of Armstrong, we discovered we was on the same types of substances that you were, or other people, there was nothing special about it, they said the American discovered something they put into Armstrongs blood, it wasn't the case. But now we see very strong riders like Chris Froome, what he did on Ax3 Domaines, and the ones who really cannot follow. What do you think of the situation today?

I think, like I said it is generally speaking, going in the right direction and the peloton is becoming gradually cleaner. But to say its entirely clean, that would be very naive. Obviously also, because of all the history of cycling, and the heritage that the riders riding nowadays are carrying around, there's, we have been putting ourselves in a situation where people they are almost entitled to point fingers at the winner which is a sad situation that instantly when you are winning you are becoming a suspect, because you never really know what number 2 has been doing, right, but its just as soon as you are winning you're, like you're a marked man.

But Chris Froome is so strong, I'm sorry,  it reminds me of Lance Armstrong, really when I saw into Ax3 Domaines accepting that he’s not growing up on the bike, but otherwise it was so easy for him, like on a flat flat road.

He is riding very impressive, and I do not like to point fingers just because people are riding fast, but obviously he has got history against him, because he was riding faster on AX3 Domaines that Armstrong, Ullrich, Basso, Leipheimer, Landis, Mancebo, myself for that matter, and all these guys I just mentioned, they have a long history of drugs.

Maybe he’s trained better than you?

It could be, it could be that he is just the fastest man on the planet earth on a bike

But you don’t honestly believe that?

I will..

That it can be such good training that you could beat people that confessed they doped themselves, and be completely clean and beat them all?

I would love to, I would love to believe that.

I sense a hint of disbelief?

Well its just like I said, the history of cycling is against him.

What do you think of the new moralists, the guys who like David Millar say "Stop pointing the finger on Chris Froome and not charging him with our faults" Like today is a new day, a brand new day like Scarlet O'Hara

Yes, but like I Say, the cyclists of today are carrying the heritage of the rest of us from the past, and just before the Tour Contador was asked about doping and he said "well doping is something of the past" and I felt that I had to respond on that question and say "Yes, well if the past is the Giro d'Italia that ended a month and a half ago when Di Luca and Santambrogio tested positive for EPO, it is the past of course, but then yesterday is also the past"

So yes, we have to see what you really are saying in all that. What do you think about, a lot of people, acknowledging that we cannot clean the sport completely from doping, they say let them all be under the influence of illegal substances, make them legal, let them all dope and see who is the best. What do you think about that?

In the ideal world, obviously everybody arriving clean. Also we know that the sports world is not as ideal as it should be, just like, probably like the rest of society. What I think is important that you have rules, that are the same for everybody, and they are respected, both by the athletes, and by the people that are governing and enforcing the rules, so that everybody is treated the same. And if you cannot have a completely clean sport then at least its important that you have rules that are enforced, that are the same and easily understandable for all athletes. So not that some people they have 50 out of competition tests in a year and some of the competitors have none, and some of the athletes have biological passports and others they do not have, because that’s when you are creating different rules for different athletes.

So are you for doping, the larger scale for everybody or not?

No, absolutely not, but I'm certainly for equal rules for everybody. And equal possibilities, but no, no, I really don’t believe that anybody of a sound mind would say we should just liberate everything, that would be a very radical thought and nobody wants to do that.

What do you think about sports like Tennis and Football who says, Oh, doping is about cycling, we are OK, we are clean, we don’t have to dope ourselves as its not such a demanding sport, and there are not many controls, they are just treated lightly, what do you think about them?

Do you think well, the football guys, they never dope themselves?

Well I think history shows something else. And obviously if you have eleven guys running around and the feel that they can run full for 90 minutes, at the end of the day you will have a big advantage and they can run faster, they can jump higher, they are stronger, so even though you have other parameters such as technique and tactics, yes, doping would help there as well.

Have you seen some football teams that were strange to you, the way physically they behaved?

No, but I've just noticed how also in soccer, how things have changed. I also know that in soccer for example there’s a huge march in, of improvement just by training more, because compared to cyclists they have a completely different way of living and training, so just by training more they would be better athletes.

But L'Equipe said the doctor, doctor Fuentes, there was also football players, some tennis players, some athletes, all kinds of sports, so does that say another thing about those sports, but nobody wanted to come forward with these names?

Is this not the rules, the same rules for all the sports?

No, its true, and they did find 250 blood bags and only half of them were identified, for the cyclists, and it leaves you a little, perplexed about the situation, like why is this happening to cycling and why are other sports just going free. Obviously its very convenient for the other sports that cycling is the scapegoat, and to blame for all evil in sport. Honestly I do not believe that is the case, cycling has a lot of positive sides as well, but , you know, who knows what..

But it is crazy that the Spanish Justice decide not to test the blood samples, the blood bags and just destroy them, I mean, how can you believe something like that, how can it happen that something like that in our days, when you have all these doping programs?

yes, I’m certainly for equal rules for everybody, and that also goes in the judicial system that it should not depend whether you are soccer player, cyclist, Danish or Spanish how you are being treated by the judicial system.

Right, why did you came forward to, recognise the fact that you were taking illegal substances, specifically named, and everything after such a long time, and why now?

Well things had happened since last year, Tyler Hamilton he came out and talked about it, and the USADA and the whole investigation about Lance Armstrong. A certain point, until now my career is coming to an end, [lost audio very briefly] to restore the credibility its impossible to restore the credibility if you are not 100% open and transparent about this. What we are trying to do in Christina Watches now, Stefan Schumacher has admitted about his mistakes now, our sports director Bo Hamburger is collaborating with the anti doping authorities. He was riding at Casino and was a professional for ten years, we want to restore credibility in cycling and doing it by being, transparent really. Because, we just cant keep on going in this direction and I want to run a cycling team in a different way than what I have been part of with Rabobank and with other teams that I've been riding on, because its just, just not possible to live for that stress, I would not put myself through that.

Ok, but you know, the following question on everybody's mind is the same, why should we believe you, after all these years of lying in cycling society, of yourself and the others?

Well I think if you compare my situation I could easily have said, I could have denied, as I did in the past, I'm taking a very big step now, And I'm taking, like, I’m telling about the substances, I'm co-operating with the authorities, and I'm very well aware that I'm facing another suspension now for doing this, but I want to do that, because I want to for once have a clean sheet

Sorry, but one of your riders would say the same thing you said to yourself or others when you are at the top of your career, you will say to him don’t dope because its not fair, and he will say, but the other one takes substances, I will never be at a good level without taking them, what do you say to him?

What I'm telling him from my personal perspective is, I was smarter than the system, I cheated, I took doping for 13-14 years and I did it right underneath their nose. They never caught me. And nevertheless I'm still sitting here with second suspension because sooner or later the truth is coming out. Lance Armstrong took doping for more than a decade, he’s is now facing a lifetime suspension, he never tested positive, sooner or later, the truth is coming out and its coming up from behind and its putting its hand on your back, and, its believe me when I'm saying, its not a nice situation, its really terrible to be in this situation. Ask Floyd Landis and ask Tyler Hamilton, and for myself, I can tell that I have been going through a very bad patch in my life, its not funny to be in this situation, stigmatised, as a criminal, by society, and that’s what I’m trying to tell to the riders. I do understand the need for you to be faster, I do understand that you have the desire to ride faster, but don’t because you do not want to be in the situation that I have been in.

Were you not afraid for your life, when you take these substance, EPO for example which can stop your heart during your sleep?

No, like the whole health perspective is, its a completely different discussion, and the cyclists are not concerned about their health. Its, its a requirement to exercise, to do the sport in the first place, its not even a question mark. And when we are riding downhill with 80-100kph on tyres that are this thick, it does not really make sense to do that, just because you have 180grams of polystyrene on your head. Its not a matter of health, and it does not make any sense at all. It doesn’t make sense to do sprints at 70kph, and you have riders left and right and people are crashing, it does not make health to stop to Tour de France. If you consider Tour de France as a workplace, they would shut it down immediately, because you know when you start with 200 people within the next three weeks you have four broken collarbones, maybe a broken hip, you have people being hospitalised pretty much every day, and nobody in their sound mind would work in a place like that, of course, and nevertheless its the biggest annual sports event, and people do it year after year after year. So health is not an issue.

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    awesome read, even if i've seen the interview on tv at first. i missed some things he said. well done

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  • pugdog

    Excellent interview. People of Rasmussen's intelligence shouldn't be muzzled, they should be encouraged to speak out as he has done.
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  • KeithJamesMc

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    I really enjoyed that interview. Thanks for posting.

    It does make me wonder why Romanian TV are interviewing him and not Danish TV or even someone like Walsh.
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  • Dim

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    He was in Sibiu as guest of honour for the Sibiu Tour, so he was there for about five days. Every night the Sibiu Tour had a one hour live recap show and Rasmussen was the guests every night, so he did an extra interview for them while he was there.
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    "And when we are riding downhill with 80-100kph on tyres that are this thick, it does not really make sense to do that, just because you have 180grams of polystyrene on your head."

    Last para is funny. Agree the whole interview is excellent.
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  • "The whole world is run on bluff. No race, no nation, no man has any divine right to take
    advantage of others. Why allow the other fellow to bluff you?"

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    I think the comments about health not being a consideration are very true, and the implications are profound.

    Also, it is good that he says what he does about Armstrong. It is very fashionable to excoriate Armstrong in any way possible including denying that he had any athletic talent. We all know that he is a deeply unpleasant individual hand the sport would have been better off without him, but I agree with Rasmussen...he won those Tours as much as anybody else and to pretend he didn't is not only dishonest but is a perpetuation on omerta.
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    To me, Rasmussen always came across as a bit of a fool. That only really changed with the TV interview he did earlier this year, and reading this he sounds reasonably intelligent and very well spoken.
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    I always thought he was a pretty unpleasant character, certainly if those stories about him tricking a teammate into carrying doping products on a flight are to be believed. I think some of these guys have pretty borderline personalities, and of course, just because he is now telling the truth for whatever motive he has, does not make him an angel.
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    I think the comments about health not being a consideration are very true, and the implications are profound.

    Also, it is good that he says what he does about Armstrong. It is very fashionable to excoriate Armstrong in any way possible including denying that he had any athletic talent. We all know that he is a deeply unpleasant individual hand the sport would have been better off without him, but I agree with Rasmussen...he won those Tours as much as anybody else and to pretend he didn't is not only dishonest but is a perpetuation on omerta.

    So do you think floyd, rasmussen(to a lesser degree) and velasco(2010) also won?
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    That Rasmussen tries to claim the 7 wins belong to Armstrong is part of the BS still pervading the sport and the mentatily that makes change so hard. Those wins belong to whatever rider rode the race clean and finished highest placed of those cleanest athletes. Sadly for them they'll never know. So Armstrong won nowt.

    Anyone who doped while competing didn't deserve to be in the race never mind win it. Armstrong didn't win anything in his life without dope. Rasmussen doped for what, 14 years, how sad. So glad he cant go back and say that he won the TdF in the same vein that Armstrong is trying ever so hard to reclaim the wins. Sorry but doping is cheating. If every rider cheated in the race, it negates all of them as a possible winner. Thems the rules. To try and think otherwise fuels doping. To think anyone who ever cheated deserved to keep their wins because others cheated perpetuates cheating.

    Rasmussen comes across as intelligent, but is blindsided by his views on doping. His idea that sports needs rules. Well it has rules Mick, and if those rules were obeyed and policed the chances are the sport would've cleaned up its act years ago and would be able to hold its head high as a sport that did actually combat the doping and the cheats, but alas the mentality of cheating and using dope is deeply ingrained in the sport from top to bottom.
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  • « Last Edit: July 20, 2013, 11:41 by benotti69 »
    "ahaha, ever had the feeling you been cheated?" JL SF Jan'78

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    Rasmussen comes across as intelligent, but is blindsided by his views on doping. His idea that sports needs rules. Well it has rules Mick, and if those rules were obeyed and policed the chances are the sport would've cleaned up its act years ago and would be able to hold its head high as a sport that did actually combat the doping and the cheats, but alas the mentality of cheating and using dope is deeply ingrained in the sport from top to bottom.

    I think on the rules bit he was aiming at consistency, some riders with full bio passport, some barely tested at all, some banned for doping, some protected by the UCI. I think underneath Rasmussen still feels hard done by his whereabouts violation while guys like Lance had positive tests covered up. Its a lot about consistency. Something I think we all agree with.

    Like everything theres bits to read, bits to ignore. I found his thoughts on the health issues of doping fascinating, funny, but a little depressing.
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    Snip

    I know we won't agree on this, which is fine. Unfortunately things aren't as simplistic. If we apply your logic then you can remove most people who've ever ridden the tour let alone won it. The 'cheating' has been going on since the very first Tour.

    Forget Merckx, forget Hinault, forget Coppi, forget......
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    So do you think floyd) also won?

    Do you think Pereiro did?
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    Do you think Pereiro did?

     Do you think floyd, rasmussen(to a lesser degree) and velasco(2010) also won?
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    You tell me....who won?
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    Okay, i thought i would ask you that question as you stated your opinion in your post. But as you want to wiggle out, it's okay. Nice talking to you.
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    Not wiggling out, just maker a deeper point which you don't seem to have grasped.

    Not a problem. Have a great evening.
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    I really enjoyed that interview. Thanks for posting.

    It does make me wonder why Romanian TV are interviewing him and not Danish TV or even someone like Walsh.

    probably because Radu Naum was 1000x more outspoken against doping than Walsh ever dreamed of. he was the commentator for cycling eurosport romania since 1997 or so until 2008. there was never omerta all this time, quite the contrary, he was accusing pretty much all the riders of doping(except maybe some french guys) everyday long with his collegue, Radu Banciu. the discussions about doping and the mocking of the riders used to be half of a total time of the broadcast. at one point, it was becoming unbearable though
    romanian cycling fans never met omerta like i said,it was never a tabu. only here you will hear jokes like this: for example it was the news that nicolas portal has a daughter and one of the actual commentators of eurosport says: "the rumours are saying that she's green and has six hands"...
    romanian commentary is not the best for a sky fan right now lol

    the interview was very good. rasmussen is great. uff those days when radu naum used to mock him because he looks like an alien and doesn't even breathing. and when rabo sent rasmussen home, radu naum said this is the best day of my life. and he meant it. i wonder if he thinks like that now...
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    forgot to say thanks to dim for those videos, Turul Sibiului. so thanks :)
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    probably because Radu Naum was 1000x more outspoken against doping than Walsh ever dreamed of. he was the commentator for cycling eurosport romania since 1997 or so until 2008. there was never omerta all this time, quite the contrary, he was accusing pretty much all the riders of doping(except maybe some french guys) everyday long with his collegue, Radu Banciu. the discussions about doping and the mocking of the riders used to be half of a total time of the broadcast. at one point, it was becoming unbearable though
    romanian cycling fans never met omerta like i said,it was never a tabu. only here you will hear jokes like this: for example it was the news that nicolas portal has a daughter and one of the actual commentators of eurosport says: "the rumours are saying that she's green and has six hands"...
    romanian commentary is not the best for a sky fan right now lol

    the interview was very good. rasmussen is great. uff those days when radu naum used to mock him because he looks like an alien and doesn't even breathing. and when rabo sent rasmussen home, radu naum said this is the best day of my life. and he meant it. i wonder if he thinks like that now...

    Is that the first time you ever used the d word? As i recall you usually use metaphors like  - "weapons" "preparation" "training  away from the police" or everyone's favourite "peaking like angels" :D

    Also why aren't you upset about Rasmussen. I thought you hated everyone who came out.

    ps, do tell what the Romanian commentators say. About sky and also before?
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    Despite the self-serving data benders and associated propaganda to the contrary, I am led to believe that there are pockets of organised, highly sophisticated dopers, even within 'new age' cycling teams. Personally, I don't accept that the 'dark era' has ended, it has just morphed into a new guise.

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    Yeh, I hadnt really heard of Radu Naum  until the Sibiu Tour, a few people filled me in on his history on Romanian Eurosport and by all accounts over the last 10-15 years he has been pretty damn vocal.

    Each night during the Sibiu he was bringing up the Tour and trying to get Rasmussen or Rebellin or the other guests to give him the bombshell headline he was after. The guy really knows his cycling, hes also no mug.
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    Not wiggling out, just maker a deeper point which you don't seem to have grasped.

    Not a problem. Have a great evening.
    No grasping of point interested, just had a simple question from your post/opinion.
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  • The Hitch

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    Not wiggling out, just maker a deeper point which you don't seem to have grasped.

    Not a problem. Have a great evening.

    He asked you a question, about your opinion, nothing more. Nothing wrong in saying that you don't want to answer it, but to simply ask the question back like a mirror and then tell the poster that they can't grasp some deeper point, is impolite.
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  • jens_attacks

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    the old commentators(Radu Naum, here doing the interview and Radu Banciu) were/are crazy radical about the stuff. at one point, the Lance fans from Romania sent letters to Paris to change them because they were mocking Lance, US Postal, Sherryl Crow all day long. I think they received warnings from there and they calmed down for a day or two lol lol then they came back stronger
    you can find on youtube videos of the final ascents of the tour and they would talk how unreal all this is, about everyone's doctor doesn't matter if he tested positive or not. they never seemed excited...like here he goes in the attack, he got his injections today on a plate by dr santuccione. or oh he doesn't have it today, the courrier didn't find the correct hotel room
    imagine ligget saying this shiit lol.

    nowadays, there are two commentators who used to commentate with them back in the days but not all the time(Emanuel Terzian and Andrei Comsa). The first one is more interested in the places, chateaus,legends, pretty much let down by the sport(He was a Lance fan at one point,he used to be extremely,extremely naive that's why). He has a huge knowledge about all other stuff than cycling and has a proper voice for the sprints. Became a cynic over the years, at one point he believed in some riders, Voeckler, Cunego,learned his lesson lol. Andrei Comsa is like a cold shower there, never gets too excited and he questions sky every single day. and also every single performance. movistar and sky are on his schedule every day. he likes the human alberto.
    Alex Hovco and Alex Ciocan are the other two commentators for cycling, the new(2010-2011 i guess) additions. The first one, i think you know him, he has Cafe Roubaix ,twitter and blog, huge cycling enthusiast, huge encyclopedia like mind, knows like everything from cycling history even if he's rather young, always defends cycling and the riders. Slammed tennis at one point big time after one marathon match, too bad i don't have the recording, that was epic. He defends sky right now, probably he knows 1+1 but he would like that cycling won't be dragged in another scandal. Alex Ciocan is a former pro and is the best commentator you will dream to hear, best sense of humour, knows to read a race, respects the riders but at the same time can make all kind of jokes about them, thinks everyone's on it. He's now an Alberto Contador fan after his comeback. So yeah it was rather sad to hear him this july, hyping Alberto to attack and then see Froome going past him like a rocket...Has all kinds of stories from the races in this area: Ivailo doing pushups in the nights in the hotels at 3 am, lutsenko and astana guys in tour of bulgaria...he's the best anyway
    well now, hitch put your hands on some dictionaries and learn romanian :D you really miss a lot....oh ventoux was epic...

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    the old commentators(Radu Naum, here doing the interview and Radu Banciu) were/are crazy radical about the stuff. at one point, the Lance fans from Romania sent letters to Paris to change them because they were mocking Lance, US Postal, Sherryl Crow all day long. I think they received warnings from there and they calmed down for a day or two lol lol then they came back stronger
    you can find on youtube videos of the final ascents of the tour and they would talk how unreal all this is, about everyone's doctor doesn't matter if he tested positive or not. they never seemed excited...like here he goes in the attack, he got his injections today on a plate by dr santuccione. or oh he doesn't have it today, the courrier didn't find the correct hotel room
    imagine ligget saying this shiit lol.

    nowadays, there are two commentators who used to commentate with them back in the days but not all the time(Emanuel Terzian and Andrei Comsa). The first one is more interested in the places, chateaus,legends, pretty much let down by the sport(He was a Lance fan at one point,he used to be extremely,extremely naive that's why). He has a huge knowledge about all other stuff than cycling and has a proper voice for the sprints. Became a cynic over the years, at one point he believed in some riders, Voeckler, Cunego,learned his lesson lol. Andrei Comsa is like a cold shower there, never gets too excited and he questions sky every single day. and also every single performance. movistar and sky are on his schedule every day. he likes the human alberto.
    Alex Hovco and Alex Ciocan are the other two commentators for cycling, the new(2010-2011 i guess) additions. The first one, i think you know him, he has Cafe Roubaix ,twitter and blog, huge cycling enthusiast, huge encyclopedia like mind, knows like everything from cycling history even if he's rather young, always defends cycling and the riders. Slammed tennis at one point big time after one marathon match, too bad i don't have the recording, that was epic. He defends sky right now, probably he knows 1+1 but he would like that cycling won't be dragged in another scandal. Alex Ciocan is a former pro and is the best commentator you will dream to hear, best sense of humour, knows to read a race, respects the riders but at the same time can make all kind of jokes about them, thinks everyone's on it. He's now an Alberto Contador fan after his comeback. So yeah it was rather sad to hear him this july, hyping Alberto to attack and then see Froome going past him like a rocket...Has all kinds of stories from the races in this area: Ivailo doing pushups in the nights in the hotels at 3 am, lutsenko and astana guys in tour of bulgaria...he's the best anyway
    well now, hitch put your hands on some dictionaries and learn romanian :D you really miss a lot....oh ventoux was epic...

    Great post Jens.

    That commentary sounds so great. Its like if you took English commentary and added an extra 100 iq onto every commentator.

    Edit: and i see where you got all your hype about how Contador was going to attack in the Alpes, from ;)

    But wait, are you saying @caferoubaix on twitter is commentator for Romanian Eurosport?

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  • Joachim

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    No grasping of point interested, just had a simple question from your post/opinion.

    OK, here's an answer....officially? No, Perreiro won it. Unofficially who the hell knows??

    If you discount Floyd's win because of his doping, the reality is he is no less a worthy winner than Pereiro, who as we all know was doing the same stuff as Floyd.

    So if you take that back to Armstrong's years, who knows? But I do think Rasmussen has a point, but I'll rephrase it: to come first 7 times, despite being doped fuelled like the next 100 or so riders beneath you in the GC is still an amazing athletic feat.

    Now, that might be an unpopular view in some parts, especially amongst the internet thought-police who, from the comfort of their bedrooms, delude themselves into thinking that they are the moral guardians of clean sport , but it is nonetheless true.
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    I know we won't agree on this, which is fine. Unfortunately things aren't as simplistic. If we apply your logic then you can remove most people who've ever ridden the tour let alone won it. The 'cheating' has been going on since the very first Tour.

    Forget Merckx, forget Hinault, forget Coppi, forget......

    Well done for figuring out the core problem with the sport of cycling.

    I tend to remember Bartali and what he did on a bike.
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    I tend to remember Bartali and what he did on a bike.

    If that is the case, then you really ought to abandon the sport for good. There surely must be a better way to spend your time.
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