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Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2013, 12:52 »
I felt sorry for Matty Hayman on yestersdays stage - crash and bike change means he is out GT contention.
Presumably, he is trying to negotiate a new contract, so the timing could not be worse.
So, Sky are left with Stannard going for the overall and Sir Wiggo will hopefully put in an effort today in the TT, which again like Poland is before the TV coverage starts.
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #31 on: August 16, 2013, 17:42 »
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #32 on: August 16, 2013, 17:45 »
    Great to see itt heavy Wiggo smash the stage against good itt riders not the big 2.

    Jeepers what a waste of talent when he does not give a sh*t
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #33 on: August 16, 2013, 18:42 »
    Jeepers what a waste of talent when he does not give a sh*t
    Sir Wiggo came out with another classic "Wiggoism" tonight to journo's after the race
    http://www.nusport.nl/wielrennen/3552337/wiggins-keert-niet-meer-terug-in-tour-france.html
    Something along the lines of...
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    "With the supremacy of Chris Froome for the next five years, it is clear that I do not have to search. I would prefer my attention back toward the track,"

    Who is at fault here?
    - The journo's for typing up Wiggo's Wicked Words as if he is serious; or
    - Wiggo for diverting attention from his pathetic performance today?
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #34 on: August 16, 2013, 23:36 »
    why isn't there anyone in this race who is suited to a stage like tomorrow's?



    edit: okay, that profile is a bit misleading, the Redoute is steeper than 5% of course, so are the other climbs
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #35 on: August 17, 2013, 00:31 »
    shaping up to be a good race.

    Chavanel and Boom should be fighting it out ... but with bonus seconds for winning, it wouldnt take much for Dumoulin, Langeveld or Gilbert to make up that kind of time.

    With a hilly stage and cobbled stage to go ... its going to be a fun 2 days
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #36 on: August 17, 2013, 04:06 »
    Will BMC be afraid to put the pressure on? Wouldn't want to drop their leader. Blanco have a weak team and either Boom or Kelderman may have to sacrifice themselves. Hard to see past Chavanel for the overall.
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #37 on: August 17, 2013, 08:12 »
    once in his lifetime Gilbert has won on a climb like this, if he does again today it's mostly because there are barely any real climbers in this race. Last time a stage finished on the Redoute Gesink won. I mean, this is not the Cauberg, it's a 10%+ climb
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #38 on: August 17, 2013, 10:15 »
    la redoute was in the Tour of Belgium ... and he couldnt even get rid of Tony Martin on it ...

    Picked him in the prediction game all the same though :D     :fp
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #39 on: August 17, 2013, 12:33 »
    Philbert looks ominous. He really tried hard in yesterday's TT and he's handy on the pavé when he needs to be, so he must have his eye on this now. He should be able to drop Boompje on Banneux and La Redoute.
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #40 on: August 17, 2013, 16:48 »
    One of the most exciting Eneco Tour stages in years today as Sky's David Lopez Garcia returned after a strong ride in April's Liège-Bastogne-Liège to confirm his capabilities on these roads. Meanwhile, the GC split asunder and despite a brave attempt to hang in there on the tough finishing circuit, Lars Boom handed over his lead to compatriot Tom Dumoulin of Argos-Shimano.

    Dumoulin turned in one of the day's finest performances, having been involved in an earlier crash and subsequently finding himself without help from a team consisting mostly of leadout men. That same crash was arguably worse for BMC, whose GC hopefuls Phinney and Gilbert both fell. Working with two domestiques, Gilbert spent 35 tough kilometres chasing back while Phinney abandoned as a result of more serious injuries along with Sky's Gabriel Rasch. It is not yet known whether or not Phinney's left knee, seen strapped in temporary bandages, could affect his World TT Championship challenge.

    Perennial facesavers Vacansoleil-DCM animated the day, with Ligthart and overall threat Westra leading a large breakaway group. Other notables included a resurgent Nick Nuyens, Stijn Vandenbergh on policing duties, Tour de Pologne performer Maciej Paterski, the ever popular Angel Madrazo and a quiet and comfortable Lopez.

    With the crash having already dented the peloton, the first ascent of La Redoute put the daylight among the wheels, as Omega Pharma QuickStep once again showed the depth of its strength. In a concerted attempt to blunt the Belkin blade, Kevin De Weert tore away with Ian Stannard and Jesse Sergent looking to profit from the chaos behind. Still trailing, Gilbert cut a lonely figure with his torn shorts as he rode through over 50 seconds down.

    The finishing circuit upon which the race now embarked was a masterstroke from the race designers, even on this relatively short stage, with two côtes proving significant: the Niaster and the little known but surprising Chambralles.

    As the gaps came down and the big rouleurs struggled up the climbs, pressure was being applied by two teams with much to gain: OPQS had Chavanel and Stybar within seconds and Astana, with Huffman up front and Iglinksiy chasing hard, raised its flag in favour of Grivko.

    Race leader Boom slipped away somewhere toward the end of the first lap but remarkably reappeared on the second probably having profited from Gilbert's posse which had finally locked on to the much whittled peloton with 35km to go on the back run. Some commentators were amazed to see the return of the flying Dutchman and evidently so was Chavanel, as OPQS immediately put in a brutal turn on the front.

    Second time round on La Redoute, the breakaway group shed its weaker elements and Lopez continued to eye the others steadily as he began finally to put his guts into the effort. As the gap came down, Grivko and Iglinskiy rode away from the big chase group with Stybar covering the move and as the Kazakh pipeline proved profitable, the Czech former grassman faced an awkward choice.

    With about 15km of racing left, these few found their numbers swelled by refugees from the original break and a lucky few lone wolves still interested in the stage win. Now there were just three groups that mattered on the road:

    Foremost was the remaining breakaway trio of Lopez, Paterski and Madrazo. Iglinskiy having done his part and slipped back, the chasers were now at about 1'10", with Grivko and Stybar joined by others including Bakelants, Westra and the daring Dumoulin. Further back at about 1'30" was Chavanel, second place overall this morning but now looking increasingly like he'd missed the boat. Further back, a fourth group containing a newly dropped Gilbert and Boom would hold together until the final run up the 10-20% gradient of the Chambralles, when the World Champion would make a final valiant effort to get back on terms.

    Dumoulin took over from a grimacing Grivko and put in a solo effort to bring the front trio within 30 seconds on the final descent of the Chambralles. Up ahead, Paterski gapped Lopez and Madrazo, only to badly overshoot a tight corner on the narrow downhill. He stayed comfortably upright but his advantage was gone and his self-confidence was damaged. Dumoulin brought the leaders within sight but his impressive ride ran out of distance as the race reached the false flat below La Redoute with barely a kilometre to go.

    The finish line divided La Redoute itself into two so that the end came before the worst slopes. As the chasers breathed on their backs, Paterski and Madrazo made their weakened final moves while Lopez waited a moment longer before pulling a massive counterstrike out of the bag, underlining suspicions that he had been saving himself earlier. The Spaniard had time to take off his shades and smile for the camera as he crossed the line with Stybar ambushing the hapless Paterski for second and, crucially, a six-second time bonus. The youthful Dumoulin came in next, out of the time bonuses but neatly taking over the white jersey.

    With tomorrow's final stage ending in Geraardsbergen and the canny Stybar only 8 seconds back on surfaces that arguably favour the Czech, we can look forward to a dénouement as hot as a summer afternoon.

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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #41 on: August 17, 2013, 17:04 »
    Great stage.

    http://www.accuweather.com/en/be/geraardsbergen/30390/hourly-weather-forecast/30390?hour=33

    Good chance of showers tomorrow, though maybe clearing up a bit later in the afternoon. Could be tasty and unlike today's stage there's quite a few names that suggest themselves for the stage win. Bring on the wall !
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #42 on: August 17, 2013, 18:57 »
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    Still trailing, Gilbert cut a lonely figure with his torn shorts as he rode through over 50 seconds down.

    :( :fp
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #43 on: August 17, 2013, 21:14 »
     No Phil tomorrow.

    August 17, 2013
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #44 on: August 17, 2013, 21:32 »
    Doesn't surprise me, haven't seen the stage yet, but the pic that Phil posted on facebook was gruesome.

    Another good result for Stybar today, would be really cool to see him take the overall.
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #45 on: August 18, 2013, 01:06 »
     :ohno:    :ohno:    :ohno:    :ohno:

    poor phil.   he could have won that - and taken overall - if not for a stupid crash.   :fp

    Anyway - on with the race.   Dumoulin was awesome.  Dont know if he can hold off Stybar for the cobbles though, so that will be a fun stage to watch.

    Chavanel had it all before him ... and couldnt quite pull Dumoulin back try though he might.  I was pretty surprised that OPQS let them go int he first place ... it was Grivko Iglinsky and Dumoulin together who got away from Chavanel/Gilbert, so was a pretty dangerous trio to let off the front.

    I thought OPQS didnt do as well as I thought they should have overall.  They had so many options, and didnt control things as well as they could have - though they will be no doubt happy with Stybar being up there.  Still - could have been so much better for them.

    Disappointed for Boom.  He lost team mates early and was always going to struggle towards the pointy end
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #46 on: August 18, 2013, 17:09 »




    Another solid Eneco stage today and nice to see this parcours testing the field properly when so many summertime runs on the pavé fail to excite the imagination.

    Having amassed nearly 8 minutes over the peloton on this final and longest stage of the race, the day's breakaway eventually whittled down to three minutes and the rouleur's wet dream of Ligthart, Greipel and Stannard.

    In support of overnight leader Tom Dumoulin, Argos-Shimano had burned up most of its matches by the time the race reached Peter Van Petegem's favourite berg, the Eikenmolen. Only Koen De Kort was left while Omega Pharma QuickStep jerseys still dominated at the front of the rapidly reducing field.

    Up ahead, sprint points were Greipel's main objective. The Gorilla found himself tied with former race leader Lars Boom this morning and sought to seal the deal with his presence in the morning breakaway. The German took the intermediate sprint ahead of Stannard. Soon after Ligthart, who like Stannard had also spent much of yesterday in front, finally blew on the Denderoordberg but Greipel was willing to continue and hung on as far as the Bosberg, when the beefy Briton dropped him.

    On the final run up the infamous Muur, OPQS put in a crushing tactical move as Sylvain Chavanel tore away, getting a gap despite a momentary mechanical in the shadow of the chapel. As yesterday, three groups now mattered: the solo Stannard; Chavanel with Kelderman and a handful of stage hunters; the peloton led by Grivko, Dumoulin and a diminished Pozzato.

    In the final circuit, with Chavanel and co's flame extinguished by RadioShack working for a lightly injured Bakelants, the Denderoordberg once again proved the key shuffler as OPQS' tactical and numerical superiority came decisively to fruition with Terpstra launching a feint on the left while Stybar powered away on the right. It was a move everyone should have expected but the finality of Stybar's move, reminiscent of Boonen at his best, dazzled all the same.

    Stybar quickly swept up Stannard but offered the English steam engine an extra shovelful of coal in return for collaboration. This duo now quickly added carriages on the mainline into Geraardsbergen. Yet as the leaders rolled into town with a slender gap, Stybar found that he could not or would not gift the stage to a highly deserving Stannard, and accelerated into the Vesten to finish four seconds up on the dejected Brit and a fine overall winner. In a final twist, Lars Boom took third and the red jersey competition away from Greipel by a single point.

    This looks like the confirmation, perhaps delayed by a Paris-Roubaix spectator in April, that former World Cyclo Cross Champion Stybar has finally arrived. First of many?

    Best Eneco Tour I've ever seen. Chapeautje, mijne heeren!
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #47 on: August 18, 2013, 18:32 »
    Safe to say that Stybar will not be returning to Cyclocross anytime soon.   
    Not sure how to feel  :TT   ;)     :yo!
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #48 on: August 18, 2013, 19:22 »
    Safe to say that Stybar will not be returning to Cyclocross anytime soon.   
    Not sure how to feel  :TT   ;)     :yo!

    Whatever next? Niels Albert to finally make the jump and win the Tour?  :D

    I was one of those who thought Stybbles had bags of potential on the road and I'm glad it's paying off.

    Boonen will probably continue to overshadow him and a couple of others at OPQS, which has no shortage of talent. That said, Stybbles has got a couple of good seasons before Van Keirsbulck and Trentin come to the fore, while Kwiatkowski - despite his versatility in all sorts of racing conditions that almost makes me salivate - will inevitably be channelled towards GTs and other sorts of stage races.
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #49 on: August 18, 2013, 20:27 »
    Whatever next? Niels Albert to finally make the jump and win the Tour?  :D

    Boonen will probably continue to overshadow him and a couple of others at OPQS, which has no shortage of talent. That said, Stybbles has got a couple of good seasons before Van Keirsbulck and Trentin come to the fore, while Kwiatkowski - despite his versatility in all sorts of racing conditions that almost makes me salivate - will inevitably be channelled towards GTs and other sorts of stage races.

    Is Niels Albert the next Sven Nys or Phil Gilbert????????????
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #50 on: August 18, 2013, 20:54 »
    Great win for Stybar, and a great stage. He's showing more and more what a danger man he will be in the classics.

    Stannard and Jungels were pretty good too I thought. Stannard for his awesome solo ride, Jungels for all the turns on the front he was taking.
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    Re: Eneco Tour - 12th to 18th August
    « Reply #51 on: August 19, 2013, 00:22 »
    best Eneco Tour for as long as I have been watching.

    they have finally got the parcours just right.   A stage with crosswinds, a good length (short) ITT, a hilly ardennes stage, a pave stage finishing on the Muur - perfect.

    And the riders delivered (well, all except for Phil and Phinney's unfortunate crash).

    Awesome race.  Stybar deserving winner - though I had hoped he would have allowed Stannard to win the stage.  Would have been appropriate, Stannard was fantastic.
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