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Re: team Sky news
« Reply #1020 on: March 03, 2015, 20:42 »
First indications as to the teams:

Wiggins confirmed for Paris-Nice, Froome for Tirreno-Adriatico

The headline should substitute Porte for Wiggins but that is what you get when reading the Anglo press.

Strade Bianche: Andy Fenn, Peter Kennaugh, Christian Knees, Salvatore Puccio, Ian Stannard, Elia Viviani, Xabier Zandio.

Tour de Langkawi: Ian Boswell, Philip Deignan, Nathan Earle, Sebastien Henao, Danny Pate, Chris Sutton.

Paris-Nice: Bernhard Eisel, Lars-Petter Nordhaug, Richie Porte, Nicolas Roche, Luke Rowe, Ben Swift, Geraint Thomas, Bradley Wiggins.

Tirreno-Adriatico: Chris Froome, Peter Kennaugh, Leopold König, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Salvatore Puccio, Ian Stannard, Elia Viviani.


Sky may be dividing the teams up nice and early and whilst I am not sure about who will be lining up with Porte at the Giro (I have a feeling Puccio and Viviani will be on that list and certainly not Wiggins or Thomas), the TA team does seem to be roughly based around Froome;s mountain support team at the Tour, very roughly I say as Roche will be competing for a place on the Tour roster and Thomas will probably be assured one, however Konig, Nieve, Poels and Stannard will all be expecting to line up alongside Froome. I haven't been following, is there any reason why Kiriyenka isn't racing now? I also think that Lopez will lose his exalted status in the team now with the reinforcements over the winter.

I can't see past your lineup DB, unless one particular rider puts in a massive performance sometime between now and July, of course Kennaugh added in there as well, instead of possibly Poels, Roche or Kiriyenka. Kennaugh I get the feeling is now rated very highly within Sky and he certainly is rated well outside of the team. I fancy Seb Henao for the Giro after a promising performance last year, I can't imagine he has a shoo in for the Tour especially as Sky want a balanced team with experienced heads to lead them and they have ample climbing support already. Dunno about Sergio, as he hasn't started his season yet and isn't on any of these lists. I wouldn't be too surprised if they had sent him back to Colombia for some more testing..
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1021 on: March 03, 2015, 20:52 »
    First indications as to the teams:

    Wiggins confirmed for Paris-Nice, Froome for Tirreno-Adriatico

    The headline should substitute Porte for Wiggins but that is what you get when reading the Anglo press.

    Strade Bianche: Andy Fenn, Peter Kennaugh, Christian Knees, Salvatore Puccio, Ian Stannard, Elia Viviani, Xabier Zandio.

    Tour de Langkawi: Ian Boswell, Philip Deignan, Nathan Earle, Sebastien Henao, Danny Pate, Chris Sutton.

    Paris-Nice: Bernhard Eisel, Lars-Petter Nordhaug, Richie Porte, Nicolas Roche, Luke Rowe, Ben Swift, Geraint Thomas, Bradley Wiggins.

    Tirreno-Adriatico: Chris Froome, Peter Kennaugh, Leopold König, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Salvatore Puccio, Ian Stannard, Elia Viviani.


    Sky may be dividing the teams up nice and early and whilst I am not sure about who will be lining up with Porte at the Giro (I have a feeling Puccio and Viviani will be on that list and certainly not Wiggins or Thomas), the TA team does seem to be roughly based around Froome;s mountain support team at the Tour, very roughly I say as Roche will be competing for a place on the Tour roster and Thomas will probably be assured one, however Konig, Nieve, Poels and Stannard will all be expecting to line up alongside Froome. I haven't been following, is there any reason why Kiriyenka isn't racing now? I also think that Lopez will lose his exalted status in the team now with the reinforcements over the winter.

    I can't see past your lineup DB, unless one particular rider puts in a massive performance sometime between now and July, of course Kennaugh added in there as well, instead of possibly Poels, Roche or Kiriyenka. Kennaugh I get the feeling is now rated very highly within Sky and he certainly is rated well outside of the team. I fancy Seb Henao for the Giro after a promising performance last year, I can't imagine he has a shoo in for the Tour especially as Sky want a balanced team with experienced heads to lead them and they have ample climbing support already. Dunno about Sergio, as he hasn't started his season yet and isn't on any of these lists. I wouldn't be too surprised if they had sent him back to Colombia for some more testing..

    I can't see Puccio, Stannard or Viviani at the TdF. Swap in Porte, Thomas and Roche. That is the only objective of Team Sky this year. Everything else is a bonus.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1022 on: March 03, 2015, 20:57 »
    I can't see Puccio, Stannard or Viviani at the TdF. Swap in Porte, Thomas and Roche. That is the only objective of Team Sky this year. Everything else is a bonus.
    Yep I agree about Puccio & Viviani for Porte & Thomas. Re-read my post  ;) I fancy Stannard in the team, they want his power on the flat and he has quite some weight with his impeding performances in the classics.  ;) He made the team in 2013 despite strong competition and would probably have made last year as well if not for his injury.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1023 on: March 03, 2015, 21:11 »
    First indications as to the teams:

    ...


    Sky may be dividing the teams up nice and early and whilst I am not sure about who will be lining up with Porte at the Giro (I have a feeling Puccio and Viviani will be on that list and certainly not Wiggins or Thomas)

    Yes good question - a real wealth of talent to support Froome in France, with a high degree of confidence; but after last year I can no longer see Richie as a genuine grand tour GC contender, if he chokes they need a strong lieutenant; a real plan B... Who best to superdom and be ready to assume leadership?
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1024 on: March 03, 2015, 22:05 »
    Pretty certain I have read somewhere that Sergio Henao won't be back until after the Giro but that Sebastian will ride it after impressing the team management last year.

    Given his 2013 performance and very vocal annoyance last year, I think it would be a big mistake for them to not take Kennaugh to the Tour this year. The logical option to me would be to have Roche, Konig, Poels, Kennaugh and Nieve plus Thomas and Stannard which would create a pretty strong team on the mountains and on the flat. Konig is a pretty decent Plan B too.

    There's then a bit of flexibility to allow for an old workhorse such as Kiri or Eisel, or Swift to go for stage wins with a decent lead out.
    Of course, considering that everyone apart from Astana fell apart on the cobbles last year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Rowe or even Fenn being taken to offer extra support, although Eisel's experience would probably put him in the squad if that is one of their concerns.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1026 on: March 06, 2015, 18:14 »
    That almost reads like a parody. Are we sure it's not a satirical website?
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1027 on: March 06, 2015, 18:25 »
    Fairly sure. I don't normally read Team Sky pieces, but that interested me. I'm also reading a book at the moment that mentions DB a lot in terms of his leadership and strategic planning. So I'm not surprised that he is continuing with the 'marginal gains' experiment, whatever that will entail in the coming years.

    Most relevant for the discussion in hand, however, was the throwaway mention of Wiggo preparing for "his last stage race" with Sky.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1028 on: March 06, 2015, 19:51 »
    That almost reads like a parody. Are we sure it's not a satirical website?

    If you thought that was ridiculous...

    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/take-a-look-at-bradley-wiggins-custom-team-car-livery-for-paris-nice-161186
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1029 on: March 06, 2015, 20:04 »
    I demand - demand! - that the UCI step in and stop this blatant disregard of their licensing rules! ;)

    If Tony Martin can't have #rainbow bands on his own bike, Sir Wiggo surely can't have them on the following car.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1030 on: March 12, 2015, 18:50 »
    Former Sky Josh Edmonson has signed for #anpost Anpost Chainreaction
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1033 on: April 15, 2015, 17:48 »
    Kristoff to Sky potentially, albeit he would need leader billing for the monuments. They will also need to check his blood profile with a fine-tooth comb IMO.

    http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/kristoff_to_join_team_sky/

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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1034 on: April 15, 2015, 18:25 »
    Kristoff to Sky potentially, albeit he would need leader billing for the monuments. They will also need to check his blood profile with a fine-tooth comb IMO.

    http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/kristoff_to_join_team_sky/

    Straight from the Real Madrid school of transfers this one..."If Katusha can't afford him..."

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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1035 on: April 15, 2015, 18:31 »
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1036 on: April 15, 2015, 18:36 »
    "The challenge is to get Alexander to another level"

    what level is that supposed to be? Winning the Tour de France? That's probably one of Sky's biggest problem, and a reason why some of the bigger profile riders who signed for Sky had problems to live up to the expectations - because those are disproportionately high

    Edit: ok, apparently it was that Orn guy who said that, so Kristoff's personal trainer. Doesn't make it any better
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1037 on: April 15, 2015, 18:42 »
    Edit: ok, apparently it was that Orn guy who said that, so Kristoff's personal trainer. Doesn't make it any better

    He said that level was winning at least one monument per year, out of the three that are possible that is a lot to ask but for two years running it seem to be mission accomplished.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1038 on: April 15, 2015, 18:46 »
    :fp

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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1039 on: May 19, 2015, 00:14 »
    Dunno how geo-restricted this is but Bradley Wiggins was on Desert Island Discs last week: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05tbsqb

    Really nice casual interview that is not just the usual cycling stuff.

    Caution: do not listen if you are an avowed Wiggins/Sky hater. The portrayal of Bradley as a human being may make it difficult for you to heap derision upon all his words and achievements in the future.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1040 on: May 19, 2015, 09:49 »
    https://www.twitter.com/WoutPoels/status/599879472108720128
    https://www.twitter.com/GeraintThomas86/status/599601518745100288
    https://www.twitter.com/nicholasroche/status/599927433383550976

    a few Sky guys fly to Tenerife today, should be the Tour team

    Poels, Thomas, Roche.
    Froome should be there too
    Knees and Henao still in Cali
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1041 on: May 20, 2015, 20:52 »
    https://www.twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/601055642959355904

    Roche Kennaugh Rowe Froome Thomas Stannard

    Poels is there too, I guess on different schedule/ride after his shoulder operation
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1042 on: May 20, 2015, 22:29 »
    https://www.twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/601055642959355904

    Roche Kennaugh Rowe Froome Thomas Stannard

    Poels is there too, I guess on different schedule/ride after his shoulder operation

    Add Porte and Konig to those 7 and do you have the team for the TDF?
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1043 on: May 20, 2015, 22:33 »
    Add Porte and Konig to those 7 and do you have the team for the TDF?

    Maybe, or Porte and Nieve
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1044 on: May 21, 2015, 09:28 »
    Maybe, or Porte and Nieve

    Nieve got called to the Giro last minute
    https://www.twitter.com/NieveMikel/status/589511834509701120

    Henao should ride too
    Knees I don't know
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1045 on: May 25, 2015, 10:25 »
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1046 on: May 26, 2015, 03:39 »
    Brailsford calls for radio communication to be aired on TV:
    http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/brailsford_wants_to_allow_tv_viewers_to_listen_to_radio_messages/

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    "It would be super interesting to hear what the sporting directors are saying to the riders", he said.
    That sounds like he's trying to figure out how it's done.


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    Wouldn't that be akin to broadcasting any coach/player huddle from any number of team sports, and thereby undermining the very essence of "strategy"?

    How would this work, exactly? With 20 or more different team radios, how would this get sorted out?

    And wouldn't the very act of sharing all that info have an effect on the actual info being shared?

    And shouldn't Brailsford be more concerned with keeping his own damn riders upright on their bikes anyway?!?!


    Every team-car radio-feed that I've ever heard usually consist of little more than, "C'mon, guys. That's it. Keep it up. Go, go, go." Fascinating.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1047 on: May 26, 2015, 05:27 »


    Done and dusted Brailsford, did it add anything?

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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1048 on: May 26, 2015, 06:27 »
    Every team-car radio-feed that I've ever heard usually consist of little more than, "C'mon, guys. That's it. Keep it up. Go, go, go." Fascinating.
    Tinkov posted a video from the #tinkoff car a few days ago, it was quite interesting imo because De Jongh said something like "okay so if you guys want a faster pace, Roman, up to you to decide who pulls"

    Anyway I can't help but think this is a bad idea, what if teams are preparing an ambush attack, I mean if Sky hear on the radio that Tinkoff are planning to send Majka up the road at the TDF surely they will act apprioprately. Maybe Brailsfraud knows his team sucks monkey balls when it comes to race tactics so he wants to know what other teams do to level the field.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1049 on: May 26, 2015, 07:15 »
    Tinkov posted a video from the #tinkoff car a few days ago, it was quite interesting imo because De Jongh said something like "okay so if you guys want a faster pace, Roman, up to you to decide who pulls"

    Anyway I can't help but think this is a bad idea, what if teams are preparing an ambush attack, I mean if Sky hear on the radio that Tinkoff are planning to send Majka up the road at the TDF surely they will act apprioprately. Maybe Brailsfraud knows his team sucks monkey balls when it comes to race tactics so he wants to know what other teams do to level the field.

    there will be codes

    In many sports plays are called on the field and teams use codes

    I for one think it will be interesting  and yes Sky really do suck at the race tactics part of Race craft

    and tbh the more you look the worse the team looks or maybe they really are clean  :o   :lol ....... but for another section of course
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