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Re: team Sky news
« Reply #990 on: January 12, 2015, 14:47 »
Quite apart from what my feelings are about veracity of performance at Sky, I always dread this time of year for Brailsford's annual State of the Union Scientific Psych Mumbo Jumbo Bamboozle Address.

In which:

- We need to do better in the Classics (because I must win everything not because I respect the races)

- All our bad days ever were actually vehicles for growth

- Froome is just ... (insert superlative to flatter guy you almost didn't renew in 2011)

- It's all just science and mental or it's all just mental science

- Screw you, Oleg
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #991 on: January 12, 2015, 15:22 »

    Quotes from today's Telegraph:

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    Roche, Brailsford said, had been signed for his experience and willingness to “sacrifice” for the good of the team, which basically means his willingness to work for Froome


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    and Viviani because he wants Sky to become “serious about sprinting again”.

    For the record I think Swift will have a stellar season.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #992 on: January 12, 2015, 16:17 »
    Quotes from today's Telegraph:


    For the record I think Swift will have a stellar season.
    Hope so Froome. He seems to be very good at a number of things but not quite good enough at any of them to pick up the big career-defining win.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #993 on: January 12, 2015, 17:05 »
    Hope so Froome. He seems to be very good at a number of things but not quite good enough at any of them to pick up the big career-defining win.
    All it takes is a bit of luck and a keen tactical nous.
    Sky riders aren't famed for either of those, but I am hoping Swift can make himself an exception.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #994 on: January 12, 2015, 17:10 »
    Having just spent £3.3m on signing Froome up for 3 years on my draft game I hope he wins everything next year. Except the sprints where I want Cav to win. You can probably see the point at which I started running out of money...



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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #995 on: January 12, 2015, 17:36 »

    Quotes from today's Telegraph:


    For the record I think Swift will have a stellar season.

    It'll be interesting to see how happy Viviani is at Sky. They've got the makings of a strong sprint train with the likes of Stannard, Rowe, Fenn, Kennaugh and Thomas.

    In any WT stage race or GT though it's difficult to imagine Brailsford picking 3 or 4 of them together if he thought it would weaken the climbing side of the team.

    I agree Swift looks ready for a great season, but sometimes it's looked like he's got good results in spite of Sky, working on his own, rather than because of them.


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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #996 on: January 26, 2015, 16:05 »
    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/josh-edmondson-contract-release-team-sky-153964

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    Rod Ellingworth, performance manager at Team Sky, explained that Edmondon’s disorganization, lack of professionalism and poor communication was behind his release from the squad.

    “He is talented, but there is a lot of talent out there and this isn’t a conveyor belt,” said Ellingworth.

    +more details in the print edition apparently

    https://twitter.com/nickbull21/status/558283908564131840
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #997 on: January 26, 2015, 16:22 »
    Sounds fishy to me on his part.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #998 on: January 26, 2015, 17:42 »
    Froome left Mallorca a few days ago to go training in South Africa with Wout Poles

    and here comes Wiggo to Mallorca (he was there in December too, while Froome was training in Tasmania with Porte)

    https://www.twitter.com/Kelly__McLean/status/559632258379030528/
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1000 on: February 10, 2015, 09:47 »
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/stannard-finding-his-racing-legs-and-confidence-in-tour-of-qatar

    Difficult to judge whether Stannard thinks he will be a force this Spring. Hope so, of course, as Stannard is one of those riders most people (and even TV commentators) like to see at the sharp end, because it usually means that conditions are tough and the racing is hard and fractious.

    There are also a few tentative signs that Rowe will improve again. It is time that Rowe started showing something more. Like Dowsett, he came up through a cobbled dom role, doing the hard yards. Unlike Dowsett though, he suits the terrain.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1001 on: February 10, 2015, 10:42 »
    Difficult to judge whether Stannard thinks he will be a force this Spring. Hope so, of course, as Stannard is one of those riders most people (and even TV commentators) like to see at the sharp end, because it usually means that conditions are tough and the racing is hard and fractious.

    There are also a few tentative signs that Rowe will improve again. It is time that Rowe started showing something more. Like Dowsett, he came up through a cobbled dom role, doing the hard yards. Unlike Dowsett though, he suits the terrain.

    as I posted that I was thinking Stan seems to the Universal guy on Sky that all cycling fans want to do well
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1002 on: February 10, 2015, 12:16 »
    I'd love to see Luke Rowe step up this year.
    Stannard, Rowe, Fenn, Thomas and Wiggo... there's the beginnings of a decent team there
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1004 on: February 11, 2015, 09:46 »
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1005 on: February 11, 2015, 13:14 »
    another article on Wiggins http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/57988/wiggins-shows-off-the-rainbow-stripes-and-more-in-qatar

    last pic says he'll ride paris nice, and 3 Jours de la Panne

    Sky will start these races

    Omloop
    KBK
    P-Nice
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    De Panne
    Flanders
    Scheldeprijs

    curious if he also rides KBK, E3, Gent, Flanders, Scheldeprijs
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1006 on: February 11, 2015, 13:39 »
    another article on Wiggins http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/57988/wiggins-shows-off-the-rainbow-stripes-and-more-in-qatar

    last pic says he'll ride paris nice, and 3 Jours de la Panne

    Sky will start these races

    Omloop
    KBK
    P-Nice
    E3
    Gent
    De Panne
    Flanders
    Scheldeprijs

    curious if he also rides KBK, E3, Gent, Flanders, Scheldeprijs

    and has been putting on the weight and training for the power surges required to win P-R he says  - now 80 kg 8 more than his worlds 14 weight  :o
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1007 on: February 11, 2015, 14:14 »
    Didn't do a lot of surging in Qatar.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1008 on: February 11, 2015, 14:16 »
    Didn't do a lot of surging in Qatar.

    Nope Blowing a lot of hot air though
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1010 on: February 23, 2015, 19:01 »
    Nieve deserves a chance on his own this year as leader in a couple of races. He has been nothing but superb in doing a super domestique role so far.

    Just imagine the Froome support at the Tour. Nieve, Konig, Roche, Porte, Kennaugh, Henao, Henao and G. Very very strong.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1011 on: February 23, 2015, 21:47 »
    Just imagine the Froome support at the Tour. Nieve, Konig, Roche, Porte, Kennaugh, Henao, Henao and G. Very very strong.

    Doesn't make sense if you ask me, the team needs to be balanced, while we can quickly agree that the 2nd best climber is probably more important than any other dom. There is only so many mountains and the team needs to be strong elsewhere too. Generally it seems like they always look to have a back-up GC guy or 2, 3-4 climbers, 1-3 flat doms, 1-3 intermediate doms to pace early climb but also needs to shelter Froome on the flat. In these you have to fit in your road captain and somebody that rides the same size bike as your leader.

    My Guess:
    Chris Froome
    Vasil Kiryienka
    Leopold König
    Mikel Nieve
    Wout Poels
    Richie Porte
    Nicolas Roche
    Ian Stannard
    Geraint Thomas
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1012 on: February 23, 2015, 22:19 »
    Doesn't make sense if you ask me, the team needs to be balanced, while we can quickly agree that the 2nd best climber is probably more important than any other dom. There is only so many mountains and the team needs to be strong elsewhere too. Generally it seems like they always look to have a back-up GC guy or 2, 3-4 climbers, 1-3 flat doms, 1-3 intermediate doms to pace early climb but also needs to shelter Froome on the flat. In these you have to fit in your road captain and somebody that rides the same size bike as your leader.

    My Guess:
    Chris Froome
    Vasil Kiryienka
    Leopold König
    Mikel Nieve
    Wout Poels
    Richie Porte
    Nicolas Roche
    Ian Stannard
    Geraint Thomas

    I can't disagree with you. Adding Poels, Vasil and Stan, just shows what an unbelievable roster they have.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1013 on: February 23, 2015, 22:53 »
    I can't disagree with you. Adding Poels, Vasil and Stan, just shows what an unbelievable roster they have.

    They have plenty of nice assets for sure

    Probably will be a bit of an audition, they will probably outline some rider types they want and pick the best they have based on form.

    Bernie, Deignan, Siutsou and Swift I would consider in addition to those we named.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1014 on: February 23, 2015, 23:09 »
    They have plenty of nice assets for sure

    Probably will be a bit of an audition, they will probably outline some rider types they want and pick the best they have based on form.

    Bernie, Deignan, Siutsou and Swift I would consider in addition to those we named.

    There you go. And Viviani. DB has to make some decisions then.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1015 on: March 02, 2015, 10:07 »
    there is no way I would try this Brailsford must have shat himself

    https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/572334235341733888
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1016 on: March 02, 2015, 10:36 »
    there is no way I would try this Brailsford must have shat himself

    https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/572334235341733888

    Alert: insurance risk! Sanction that rider NOW!
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1017 on: March 02, 2015, 20:30 »
    Crikey....
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1018 on: March 02, 2015, 20:47 »
    Doesn't make sense if you ask me, the team needs to be balanced, while we can quickly agree that the 2nd best climber is probably more important than any other dom. There is only so many mountains and the team needs to be strong elsewhere too. Generally it seems like they always look to have a back-up GC guy or 2, 3-4 climbers, 1-3 flat doms, 1-3 intermediate doms to pace early climb but also needs to shelter Froome on the flat. In these you have to fit in your road captain and somebody that rides the same size bike as your leader.

    My Guess:
    Chris Froome
    Vasil Kiryienka
    Leopold König
    Mikel Nieve
    Wout Poels
    Richie Porte
    Nicolas Roche
    Ian Stannard
    Geraint Thomas

    I think Kennaugh will go, he's more than just a diesel and demonstrated fairly convincingly that he should never have been left out of last year's team.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #1019 on: March 02, 2015, 23:28 »
    I think Kennaugh will go, he's more than just a diesel and demonstrated fairly convincingly that he should never have been left out of last year's team.

    We agree as far as that he should be on the team, I don't think he will be though. I would remove Roche from the above if I was setting the team.
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