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Re: team Sky news
« Reply #270 on: October 25, 2012, 11:08 »
So if Wiggins does the Giro, what will his 2013 race programme look like.  As I recall he has indicated he'll probably not do Paris Nice, will he need to be T-A in 'racing to win' form.  Would Pais Vasco come in to the reckoning - would he ride the Ardennes?  Would Romandie (with a similar parcours to 2012) actually offer anything useful?

If he does have his sights on a career Grand Tour Grand Slam (and gets part 2 next May) but races the 2013 Tour to support Froome, could we see him turn up at Paris Roubaix in 2014, tour as superdom and Vuelta as leader (that Unipublic/ASO suddenly decide needs to be TT heavy)?
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #271 on: October 25, 2012, 11:13 »
    I think Pais Vasco is more likely than the Ardennes. Neither suits his style particularly well but Sky suddenly have an embarrassment of riches in the hilly classics department. If Wiggo does ride the Ardennes I'd expect it to be in support of JTL, EBH, Uran and Henao.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #272 on: October 25, 2012, 11:20 »
    I wasnt thinking he would contend in Ardennes week, just ride in support and as prep for anything punchy at Il Giro.

    Also if he does have a tilt at the cobbles in 2014, I hope he gives RvV a proper run as well.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #273 on: October 25, 2012, 11:52 »
    I would really love to see him go at Roubaix but I think he'd have to put on a bit more weight.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #274 on: October 25, 2012, 12:17 »
    I would really love to see him go at Roubaix but I think he'd have to put on a bit more weight.

    Yeah,  but I suppose he can take some inspiration from Vansummeren,  another stickman that performs well in this race.

    And I hope Stannard gets a proper go at this race now That Flecha has gone.



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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #275 on: October 25, 2012, 14:56 »
    And I hope Stannard gets a proper go at this race now That Flecha has gone.

    Noo, gotta do unlimited turns on the front for EBH to come 20th!
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #276 on: October 25, 2012, 16:24 »
    Unconfirmed reports that Jullich is leaving Sky

    confirmed http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,17546_8194069,00.html
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #277 on: October 25, 2012, 16:34 »
    He should walk into another job - perhaps with Garmin (or follow LPN to Rabo?)- if the credit given to him as one of Sky's Race Coaches is legit...
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #278 on: October 25, 2012, 16:37 »
    So Julich is 1. Still waiting for Yates and Rodgers...
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #279 on: October 25, 2012, 16:38 »
    Let the window-dressing begin  ::)
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #280 on: October 25, 2012, 16:56 »
    Well talk turns to action..

    Once again the no win situation Sky have put themselves in just gets emphasises, they would have been criticised if they had done nothing and criticised if they let someone such as Julich go.

    From what I have hard of his work at Sky, this is certainly a big blow to the team and he will be difficult to replace.

    Though not in the Dark side, it does show that Sky's policy does not in fact support omerta as much as some people seem to claim.

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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #281 on: October 27, 2012, 13:33 »
    Another nail in the Froome/Sky coffin?

    Julich and him were reportedly close.
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #282 on: October 27, 2012, 20:48 »
    Maybe I overlooked it and the article was posted before. In fact his position is not something brand new but anyway - Jonathan Vaughters on Sky's anti-doping declaration:

    http://road.cc/content/news/69320-team-skys-anti-doping-declaration-wont-work-insists-jonathan-vaughters
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    “It’s just not the correct course for them to try and change history,” he told the Telegraph. “They would be better served by realising that people of that generation do have a lot to commit and contribute.

     “Dave [Brailsford] has stepped into a sport that has 100 years of history and those 100 years sadly include some generations when the testing was not on a par with the doping and that the rules were unable to be enforced properly, because the science didn’t exist to do that. The drugs were so effective that the whole dynamic of the peloton was being manipulated.

    “It’s just so difficult to ever figure out if a person signing the paper is telling the truth or not and it runs the risk of forcing people into a situation where they have to lie.

    “You are given a piece of paper and told to sign and if we find out you were lying, then you are sacked. But if you don’t sign it you are sacked as well. You are pushing people towards dishonesty. I appreciate the idealism but it just feels like it is twisting a little bit more towards forcing people to be dishonest.


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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #283 on: October 27, 2012, 20:53 »
    But at the same time you can argue that you are forcing them to be honest as well.

    (just attempting to give an objective view :P)
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #284 on: October 27, 2012, 20:56 »
    Yeah, be honest = be sacked, makes total sense  ???
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #285 on: October 27, 2012, 20:58 »
    Well, it does not make sense but it may nevertheless have an impact on members of the team to own up and well that is a good thing.. isn't it? :D
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #286 on: October 27, 2012, 21:03 »
    Only is they do ofc

    then it is just stupid  :D
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #287 on: October 27, 2012, 22:53 »
    Only is they do ofc

    then it is just stupid  :D

    So it works seemingly  :D

    Yates previously denies it straight out, now admits according to Sunday Telegraph

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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #290 on: October 30, 2012, 12:39 »
    Froome's initial calandar for 2013 (initially reported by L'Equipe)

    Algave
    Criterium International
    Romandie
    Dauphine

    with the possibility of adding Paris Nice and/or Pais Vasco

    italian link (GT)
    french link (GT)
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #291 on: October 30, 2012, 12:44 »
    Some thoughts on possible new DS candidates for Sky Spazio

    McGee
    Piva
    Lloyd
    Hammond

    Has Brian Smith got a significant role in Netapp-Endura? perhaps he could be a candidate...
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #292 on: October 30, 2012, 12:51 »
    Brad took a job in NSWIS and probably will get Whites OZ job so I would count him off the list - he moved back to OZ for family reason

    Edit I do not think Smith likes the Sky guys so would not count him in
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #293 on: October 30, 2012, 12:57 »
    Brad took a job in NSWIS and probably will get Whites OZ job so I would count him off the list - he moved back to OZ for family reason

    Edit I do not think Smith likes the Sky guys so would not count him in

    Yeah Spazio acknowledge the McGee just took a job - only posted the article to stimulate debate.  I mentioned Smith as he has the clean credentials and could be of help in the transition of JTL to the 'Majors'

    There arent really any obivious candidates - if Arvesen has signed the pledge could he step up?
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #294 on: October 30, 2012, 16:14 »
    Has Brian Smith got a significant role in Netapp-Endura? perhaps he could be a candidate...

    Would they run the risk of going ex-Motorola again though?
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #295 on: October 30, 2012, 17:05 »
    Smith has been on the end of Armstrong's nasty side in the past, so unlikely he was ever involved in that sort of thing.  As this article makes clear, his promise to his dad meant a hell of a lot to him.  No idea if he'd take a job at Sky, but his past is ok I think.  Would be a shame if he did get a job because I like his commentary  :)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2216492/Lance-Armstrong-latest-Brian-Smith-told-cyclist-hed-drugs-sacked.html
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #297 on: October 31, 2012, 10:46 »
    Smith has been on the end of Armstrong's nasty side in the past, so unlikely he was ever involved in that sort of thing.  As this article makes clear, his promise to his dad meant a hell of a lot to him.  No idea if he'd take a job at Sky, but his past is ok I think.  Would be a shame if he did get a job because I like his commentary  :)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2216492/Lance-Armstrong-latest-Brian-Smith-told-cyclist-hed-drugs-sacked.html

    I think this somewhat illustrates the limitations of Sky's bridge burning policy.

    He seems to be a stand-up guy but does he really have the depth of knowledge and experience to be a WT DS?
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #298 on: October 31, 2012, 11:05 »
    An interview with Patrick Lefevere on Cav's move, courtesy of CyclingNews.

    Lefevere to build Tour de France team around Cavendish

    I particularly like this little throwaway line:

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    "We don’t have a GC rider. Of course we have Peter Velits..."

    Poor Petey...
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    Re: team Sky news
    « Reply #299 on: November 03, 2012, 09:43 »
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/nov/02/bradley-wiggins-interview-tour

    An excellent interview with Wiggins from the Guardian. Not a lot of new things, but does paint a picture of him as a person. And he seems to be a genuinly nice guy.
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