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CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
« on: October 01, 2013, 12:02 »
Update: Thursday 14th November

Wanty-Groupe Gobert are full. 20 riders, including 4 from Vacansoleil and 8 from Accent Jobs.

Rumours of Pablo Urtasun making the move from #euskaltel to #cajarural are getting ever stronger, but we wait for confirmation.

Teams
 *nlAccent Jobs-Wanty #accentjobsAccent Jobs leaves - Becomes Wanty-Groupe Gobert. Van Der Schueren moves from Vacansoleil to become new team manager.
*usaBissell #bisselBissell leaves to become sponsor of Axel Merckx/Bontrager. Team stops.
*cnChampion Systems #championTeam stops.
*beCrelan-Euphony #crelanTeam stops.
*esEuskaltel-Euskadi #euskaltelFailed negotiations with Fernando Alonso. Team stops but salaries protected for 2014.
*luLeopard Trek Continental #leopardFlavio Becca sells RadioShack-Leopard ProTour licence to Trek for 2014. Continental team stops.
*deNSP-Ghost #nspTeam stops.
*frSojasun #sojasunFailed merger negotiations with NetApp-Endura. Team stops.
*nlVacansoleil-DCM #vacansoleilVan Der Schueren leaves to become new team manager at Wanty-Groupe Gobert. Team stops.
*itVini Fantini-Selle Italia #vinifantini"Vini Fantini ceasing sponsorship. Management continue licence as ""Yellow Fluo"" with sponsors yet to be announced."
*nlVVBWPurported Dutch cycling union team for contract-less Dutch and Belgian riders. To be confirmed

Riders
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 *esJonAberasturi #euskaltel *beBjornLeukemans #vacansoleil -Wanty-Groupe Gobert-
*itEugenioAlafaci #leopard -Trek- *usaCraigLewis #champion
*beFredericAmorison #crelan #wallonie *nlPimLigthart #vacansoleil #lotto13
*caRyanAnderson #champion #optum *nlBert-JanLindeman #vacansoleil(-Wanty Groupe Gobert-? -VVBW-?)
*brRafaelAndriato #vinifantini -YellowFluo- *cnBiaoLiu #champion
*esIgorAnton #euskaltel( #lampre? #opqs13?) *esJuanLobato #euskaltel #movistar
*esMikelAstarloza #euskaltel -Retires- *itMarcoMarcato #vacansoleil #cannondale
*nzClintonAvery #champion *plTomaszMarczynski #vacansoleil -ActiveJet-
*esJorgeAzanza #euskaltel *frJean-MarcMarino #sojasun -Retires-
*beVincentBaestaens #crelan(-Vastgoedservice-?) *nlBarryMarkus #vacansoleil #belkin
*itPieroBaffi #leopard *frRonyMartias #sojasun
*deSebastianBaldauf #nsp *frGuillaumeMartin #sojasun
*usaChristopherBaldwin #bissel *esEgoiMartinez #euskaltel
*beKoenBarbe #crelan(-Cibel-Aliplast-? -VVBW-?) *itLucaMazzanti #vinifantini
*caZacharyBell #champion -Team SmartStop- *usaJasonMccartney #bissel
*nzPatrickBevin #bissel *usaPatrickMccarty #bissel
*usaChadBeyer #champion #5hr *frMaximeMederel #sojasun
*esPelloBilbao #euskaltel #cajarural *frLeoMenville #nsp
*beKrisBoeckmans #vacansoleil #lotto13 *itMicheleMerlo #vinifantini
*siGregaBole #vacansoleil *ptRicardoMestre #euskaltel #efapel
*frThomasBonnin #nsp *itLuigiMiletta #vinifantini
*itStefanoBorchi #vinifantini *esMiguelMinguez #euskaltel
*ieMattBrammeier #champion *nlWouterMol #vacansoleil(-VVBW-?)
*esGarikoitzBravo #euskaltel #efapel *itCristianoMonguzzi #vinifantini
*crGregoryBrenes #champion #jamis *veYonathanMonsalve #vinifantini(-YellowFluo-?)
*usaMacBrennan #bissel *auTommyNankervis #bissel
*beJonathanBreyne #crelan(-VVBW-?) *itDaniloNapolitano #accentjobs
*dkNicolaiBrøchner #bissel -Bissell Cycling Team- *itStefanoNardelli #accentjobs
*beJoeriBueken #crelan -T.Palm-Pole Continental Wallon- *esMikelNieve #euskaltel #sky
*usaChristopherButler #champion *jpRyotaNishizono #champion
*beStevenCaethoven #accentjobs *ruNikitaNovikov #vacansoleil -Ban-
*beAndyCappelle #accentjobs *beSvenNys #crelan -CX Only-
*usaKirkCarlsen #bissel *eeMartOjavee #champion
*paRamonCarretero #vinifantini *esJuanOroz #euskaltel
*maTarikChaoufi #euskaltel *myMuhamadOthman #champion
*hkFu ShiuCheung #champion *frJean-LouPaiani #sojasun -Roubaix-Lille Metropole-
*itFrancescoChicchi #vinifantini(-YellowFluo-?) *frRemiPauriol #sojasun( #lampre?)
*beFransClaes #crelan(Stagaire 2013) *beKevinPeeters #crelan -Vastgoedservice-
*beKevinClaeys #crelan(-VVBW-?) *esRubenPerez #euskaltel
*itDanieleColli #vinifantini -YellowFluo- *usaFrankPipp #bissel -Retires-
*beDavyCommeyne #accentjobs *beBaptistePlanckaert #crelan -Roubaix-Lille Metropole-
*usaAndrewDahlheim #bissel *nlWoutPoels #vacansoleil #opqs13
*frMaximeDaniel #sojasun #ag2r *frPaulPoux #sojasun -Retires-
*nzTomDavid #crelan *itMattiaPozzo #vinifantini(-YellowFluo-?)
*beSeanDe Bie #leopard #lotto13 *beChristophePremont #crelan #wallonie
*beThomasDe Gendt #vacansoleil #opqs13 *itAlessandroProni #vinifantini
*itPierpaoloDe Negri #vinifantini *itMatteoRabottini #vinifantini(-YellowFluo-?)
*itRobertoDe Patre #vinifantini(Vini/Nippo?) *deSteffenRadochla #euskaltel
*beTimDe Troyer #accentjobs -Wanty-Groupe Gobert- *frMaximeRenault #sojasun(Stagaire 2013)
*beThomasDegand #accentjobs -Wanty-Groupe Gobert- *caRyanRoth #champion
*frAnthonyDelaplace #sojasun #bretagne *caWillRoutley #accentjobs #optum
*beSebastienDelfosse #crelan #wallonie *nlRobRuijgh #vacansoleil -Vastgoedservice-
*beGillesDevillers #crelan -Veranclassic-Doltcini- *veJoseRujano #vacansoleil -Retires-
*itDaniloDi Luca #vinifantini(Ban?) *esAdrianSaez #euskaltel -Retires-
*luJempyDrucker #accentjobs -Wanty-Groupe Gobert- *esSamuelSanchez #euskaltel(-Wanty Groupe Gobert-?)
*usaMaxwellDurtschi #leopard *jpJunyaSano #vinifantini
*noJohnEbsen #baku(Signed by #champion for 2014) *itMauroSantambrogio #vinifantini(Ban?)
*frJulienEl Fares #sojasun( #lampre?) *deStefanSchäfer #nsp
*frJimmyEngoulvent #sojasun #europcar *beStafScheirlinckx #accentjobs
*esJesusEzquerra #leopard *luPitSchlechter #leopard
*itFrancescoFailli #vinifantini *deJonasSchmeiser #nsp
*frRomainFeillu #vacansoleil #bretagne *frFabienSchmidt #sojasun -Team U Nantes Atlantiques-
*frBriceFeillu #sojasun( #bretagne?) *deFabianSchnaidt #champion #vorarlberg
*twChun KaiFeng #champion *deAndreSchulze #euskaltel -Retires-
*esAiranFernandez #vinifantini *deMichaelSchweizer #nsp #synergy
*deJacobFiedler #nsp *itMirkoSelvaggi #vacansoleil -Wanty-Groupe Gobert-
*itMauroFinetto #vinifantini -YellowFluo- *ruAlexanderSerebryakov #euskaltel -Ban-
*esJuan AntonioFlecha #vacansoleil -Retires :(- *beLanderSeynaeve #accentjobs
*deSvenForberger #nsp *frRomainSicard #euskaltel #europcar
*deSebastianForke #nsp *ptFabioSilvestre #leopard -Trek-
*deMarkusFothen #nsp -Retires- *frJulienSimon #sojasun #cofidis
*deMatthiasFriedemann #champion *ltEvaldasSiskevicius #sojasun #pomme
*deSergejFuchs #nsp *nzDionSmith #champion
*usaPhillipGaimon #bissel #garmin *itRiccardoStacchiotti #vinifantini
*frJeremieGalland #sojasun *beJoeriStallaert #crelan -Veranclassic-Doltcini-
*esRicardoGarcia #euskaltel *beStijnSteels #crelan #topsport
*itStefanoGarzelli #vinifantini -Retires- *itLucaSterbini #vinifantini
*itOscarGatto #vinifantini #cannondale *beKlaasSys #crelan
*siGregorGazvoda #champion *itFabioTaborre #vinifantini(Vini/Nippo?)
*beJerômeGilbert #accentjobs -Wanty-Groupe Gobert- *frYannickTalabardon #sojasun -Retires-
*itLeonardoGiordani #vinifantini -Retires- *grIoannisTamouridis #euskaltel #sptableware
*frJulienGuay #sojasun(Stagaire 2013) *hkWang YipTang #champion
*beGrégoryHabeaux #accentjobs -Wanty-Groupe Gobert- *luTomThill #leopard
*dkKristianHaugaard Jensen #leopard #argos Development *deTinoThömel #nsp -Team Stuttgart-
*czJanHirt #leopard #etixx *nzMichaelTorckler #bissel -Team SmartStop-
*frJonathanHivert #sojasun #belkin *frEtienneTortelier #sojasun -VC Pays Loudeac-
*chOliverHofstetter #leopard *nlBobbieTraksel #champion(-Wanty Groupe Gobert-? -VVBW-?)
*nlReinierHonig #crelan(-VVBW-?) *esPableUrtasun #euskaltel( #cajarural?)
*nlJohnnyHoogerland #vacansoleil #androni *esRafaelValls #vacansoleil #lampre
*nlReneHooghiemster #nsp #koga *nlStefanVan Dijk #accentjobs
*beKurtHovelynck #crelan -Retires- *beJurgenVan Goolen #accentjobs
*beKevinHulsmans #vinifantini -Vastgoedservice- *bePieterVan Herck #crelan
*esGorkaIzagirre #euskaltel #movistar *nlKennyVan Hummel #vacansoleil(-VVBW-?)
*esIonIzagirre #euskaltel #movistar *beKevinVan Melsen #accentjobs -Wanty-Groupe Gobert-
*krChan JaeJang #champion *nlBoyVan Poppel #vacansoleil -Trek-
*beRoyJans #accentjobs -Wanty-Groupe Gobert- *nlDannyVan Poppel #vacansoleil -Trek-
*frFabriceJeandesboz #sojasun #europcar *beJamesVanlandschoot #accentjobs -Wanty-Groupe Gobert-
*cnKunJiang #champion *beSvenVanthourenhout #crelan -CX Only-
*cnPengdaJiao #champion *beMaximeVantomme #crelan(-VVBW-?)
*usaCarterJones #bissel #optum *nzJeremyVennell #bissel
*ltEgidijusJuodvalkis #crelan #3m *esGorkaVerdugo #euskaltel
*nlMartijnKeizer #vacansoleil -Veranclassic-Doltcini- *beBenjaminVerraes #accentjobs
*luAlexKirsch #leopard *beKevinVerwaest #crelan -Veranclassic-Doltcini-
*deDanielKlemme #leopard *beFrederikVeuchelen #vacansoleil -Wanty-Groupe Gobert-
*siJureKocjan #euskaltel *frNicolasVogondy #accentjobs
*nlWesleyKreder #vacansoleil -Wanty-Groupe Gobert- *siRobertVrecer #euskaltel
*usaJulianKyer #bissel -Team SmartStop- *frAlexisVuillermoz #sojasun #ag2r
*frChristopheLaborie #sojasun #bretagne *beWillemWauters #vacansoleil #verandas
*uzSergeyLagutin #vacansoleil #rusvelo *nlLieuweWestra #vacansoleil #astana
*nlMauritsLammertink #vacansoleil #piels *hkKin SanWu #champion
*esMikelLanda #euskaltel #astana *cnGangXu #champion #lampre
*frDavidLe Lay #sojasun -BIC 2000- *luJoelZangerle #leopard
*frCyrilLemoine #sojasun #cofidis

Summary
225Riders at Risk
90Signed
2Signed - Crelan for CX only
22Rumours
13Retirements
2Suspended
2Possible suspension
NOT SIGNED FROM:
11Accent Jobs-Wanty (out of 20)
9Bissell (out of 15)
20Champion Systems (out of 26)
10Crelan-Euphony (out of 24)
15Euskaltel-Euskadi (out of 29)
9Leopard Trek Continental (out of 14)
9NSP-Ghost (out of 13)
9Sojasun (out of 26)
3Vacansoleil-DCM (out of 29)
21Vini Fantini-Selle Italia (out of 28)
116[/b]TOTAL NOT SIGNED[/b]
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 12:06 »
    CJ removed the spoiler, your great work need to be seen in full 
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 12:41 »
    With 5 teams folding, 134 riders are on the market... so far only 19 have found work for next season.

    Here's a quick summary...

    - huge table -
    No time like the present to start a cycling team.
    Anyone got a sponsor lined up and ready? :D
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #3 on: October 01, 2013, 12:43 »
    No time like the present to start a cycling team.
    Anyone got a sponsor lined up and ready? :D

    We could do a whip-round... Team Velorooms!

    How much would we need...?
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 13:02 »
    wow seeing that chart makes me so sad.

    There are going to be so many without teams ... with some really big names still on the market, some of those young kids have no chance at getting a contract    :'(
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #5 on: October 01, 2013, 14:06 »
    wow seeing that chart makes me so sad.

    There are going to be so many without teams ... with some really big names still on the market, some of those young kids have no chance at getting a contract    :'(

    Two things struck me when I put it together - the first is, like you, I can't believe the sheer *number* of names. The second - to my shame, I didn't recognise some of the names. The likes of Sanchez, Anton and Nieve at Euskaltel or de Gendt and Westra at Vacansoleil haven't/won't struggle(d) to find new teams. But the young riders, or the domestiques, who do their work quietly and largely without recognition... It's a very bad thing.

    19/134 have found new teams, which is 14%. There are rumours for a number of others (the van Poppels, for example), but I can't see that figure reaching even 50%. Unless there are a spate of retirements.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #6 on: October 01, 2013, 14:50 »
    cj: Nys and Vantourenhout retained a special "'cross-only" sponsorship deal with Crelan which will see them out for two more seasons.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #7 on: October 01, 2013, 15:38 »
    Gotcha - I'll put rumours in later on so it looks a little less depressing, too
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #8 on: October 01, 2013, 19:38 »
    I've updated my table to include the Bontrager/Bissell/Axel Merckx merger, the Vacan/Accent quasi-merger and the end of the Leopard continental team.

    All in all, I make it 194 riders out of a job now. 34 have confirmed contracts for next season; 3 retirements and 2 bans.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #9 on: October 01, 2013, 20:08 »
    We should really get that work of yours split to a thread of its own, in order to truly appreciate it - and to make it easier to find.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #10 on: October 01, 2013, 20:17 »
    who did that  ;)
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #11 on: October 01, 2013, 20:19 »
    who did that  ;)

    You move in mysterious ways, JSG!

    Thanks to Blackbandit for pointing out Bissell, by the way. He made the (entirely valid) point that the Bontrager boys are likely to be OK under Axel, but it is a kind-of team stopping...
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #12 on: October 02, 2013, 00:09 »
     If only I was a millionaire (preferably 30+).

    Here are my US Pro Conti & Euro Pro Conti teams
    US
    Climbers
    Brenes
    Jones, C.
    Torckler
    Lewis
    Beyer
    Butler
    Baldwin
    Kyer
    Carlsen

    Sprinters/Rouleurs
    Bell
    Brochner
    Bevin
    Routley
    Roth
    Durtschi

    Europe
    Climbers
    Sanchez
    Hivert
    El Fares
    Sicard
    Feillu, B.

    Sprinters/Rouleurs
    Van Hummel
    Napolitano
    Feillu, R.
    Bole
    Urtasun
    Kocjan
    Klemme
    Brammeier
    Friedemann
    Schnaidt
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #13 on: October 02, 2013, 07:51 »
    Any chance of including #vinifantini Vini Fantini - Selle Italia as well? They may not officially have announced their folding, but with Vini Fantini jumping ship to #nippo Nippo - De Rosa, it's 99% certain.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 10:23 »
    Any chance of including #vinifantini Vini Fantini - Selle Italia as well? They may not officially have announced their folding, but with Vini Fantini jumping ship to #nippo Nippo - De Rosa, it's 99% certain.

    Good call Fus - we've been watching the sharks circling that team since the Giro! Presumably, Vini joining Nippo has no negative impact on that team... i.e., no risk for those riders - the same with Bontrager, I guess...

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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #15 on: October 02, 2013, 10:33 »
    Presumably, Vini joining Nippo has no negative impact on that team... i.e., no risk for those riders

    it's the Vini Fantini - D'Angelo & Antenucci amateur team joining with Nippo - de Rosa, not the pro conti team. In other words, Vini Fantini will increase the sponsorship money of the amateur team and (most likely) not support the pro team anymore. With Selle Italia folding as well currently Scinto stands there without a sponsor.

    Taborre and de Patri are rumoured to join the new team, but most Vini riders will not, as far as I know
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #16 on: October 02, 2013, 11:46 »
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #17 on: October 02, 2013, 13:07 »
     :S

    That's the latest update done. Bontrager and Nippo 2013 squads are, unless I hear otherwise, assumed to be safe. Unlike Bissell and Vini Fantini who are moving their sponsorship.

    A total of 224 "at risk" riders, with only 26 known to be riding on the road next season. No information or rumours for 166 riders :(
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #18 on: October 02, 2013, 14:07 »
    If Leopard Conti stops, who will be Trek's Conti/Feeder team that all WT teams need to have?
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #19 on: October 02, 2013, 14:09 »
    If Leopard Conti stops, who will be Trek's Conti/Feeder team that all WT teams need to have?

    they do not need to have , it is talked about for the future as far as I know 2015 will be when things start changing until 2020
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #20 on: October 02, 2013, 14:50 »
    No, I'm pretty sure all teams have one. Although some may not be Conti-even and the link is tenable but it is there. I'm sure I've seen something UCI-ish with all teams and a feeder team.

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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #21 on: October 02, 2013, 15:06 »
    I hope this is not the last we see of Flecha  Bole  Westra  De Gendt and some others.,  I always enjoy watching those guys race.  But its not looking good by the sounds of things.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #22 on: October 02, 2013, 15:14 »
    Yeah I'm sure its a requirement. Even Pro Conti teams have them, eg Europcar and Vendee U.

    Off the top of my head:
    OGRE ~ Jayco-AIS
    Leopard-Trek ~ Leopard Conti
    Astana ~ Astana Conti
    Katusha ~ RusVelo
    Lotto ~ Davitamon?
    OPQS ~ Beveren 2000?

    Radioshack used to have Trek-Livestrong.

    I can't remember but I saw on a website a list of all the teams and their respective feeders. If it was on the UCI website then I'll never find it again.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #23 on: October 02, 2013, 15:15 »
    No, I'm pretty sure all teams have one. Although some may not be Conti-even and the link is tenable but it is there. I'm sure I've seen something UCI-ish with all teams and a feeder team.

    To the google-mobile!
    All I can remember to have seen is a list of teams affiliated with eachother who may not participate in the same races (e.g. #radioshack & #trek).

    I can't recall there being any obligation for WT teams to have a feeder team in the UCI rules.
    Yet.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #24 on: October 02, 2013, 15:19 »
    I can't remember but I saw on a website a list of all the teams and their respective feeders. If it was on the UCI website then I'll never find it again.
    You need better search skills. ;)

    Participation according to Article 2.2.001
    14 WT teams have a feeder team (#opqs13 have two, one at Conti level, and one amateur), and 4 ProConti teams have one as well.
    Pretty sure it can't be a requirement then, otherwise they'd all have one - unless of course the UCI can give dispensation if you give reasons (read $$$).
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #25 on: October 02, 2013, 15:24 »
    Yeah I'm sure its a requirement. Even Pro Conti teams have them, eg Europcar and Vendee U.

    Off the top of my head:
    OGRE ~ Jayco-AIS
    Leopard-Trek ~ Leopard Conti
    Astana ~ Astana Conti
    Katusha ~ RusVelo
    Lotto ~ Davitamon?
    OPQS ~ Beveren 2000?

    Radioshack used to have Trek-Livestrong.

    I can't remember but I saw on a website a list of all the teams and their respective feeders. If it was on the UCI website then I'll never find it again.

    Lotto-Davo I think is the current handle of Lotto's feeder. Etixx-Ihned is OPQS'.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #26 on: October 02, 2013, 15:25 »
    Of course if it is a requirement, given that Bontrager are a Trek subsidiary and both will be linked with Axel's new outfit, that should cover them.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #27 on: October 02, 2013, 15:26 »
    I think (officially) the one for Katusha is Itera - Katusha. BMC has a development team as well

    Edit: anyway, I missed Fus' link up there
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #28 on: October 02, 2013, 15:28 »
    You need better search skills. ;)

    Participation according to Article 2.2.001
    14 WT teams have a feeder team (#opqs13 have two, one at Conti level, and one amateur), and 4 ProConti teams have one as well.
    Pretty sure it can't be a requirement then, otherwise they'd all have one - unless of course the UCI can give dispensation if you give reasons (read $$$).

    I'm not completely mad :woohoo

    Ok, so 13/18 WT teams have one. So it's not a requirement to have a link/affiliate/feeder but it must be encouraged then.

    And yes, my google-mobile ended up being 1800-CALL-FUS. It's never failed ;)

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    Of course if it is a requirement, given that Bontrager are a Trek subsidiary and both will be linked with Axel's new outfit, that should cover them.
    That was where I was leading because Bontrager seemed happy enough to go independent before and Bissel stepping in means that they would have less connection to anything Trek.
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    Re: CJ´s rider GPS from teams folding in 2013
    « Reply #29 on: October 02, 2013, 15:45 »
    Good call Fus - we've been watching the sharks circling that team since the Giro! Presumably, Vini joining Nippo has no negative impact on that team... i.e., no risk for those riders - the same with Bontrager, I guess...

    Dear me, what I have started!

    The pro continental vini fantini team is dust.

    The vini merge is the vini development squad merging with nippo, so vini fantini the PC are over. :( :D

    The vini-nippo team will be the current nippo team, plus some of the youngsters from vini development.
    Just as bontrager will be the old bontrager team and a couple of bissel kids, with the bissel continental team folding.
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