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Re: General news season 2014
« Reply #270 on: December 12, 2014, 11:40 »
and your Physio friend needs to keep a certain amount of continued education to keep his licence so not really the same

but I guess we drive/train to work as a personal expence

I was more talking about courses to increase knowledge and thereby gain opportunities to step up, and maybe earn more money later on. So I don't think it's too much out of the ordinary to have to pay to get better in whatever you are doing (apart from the fact that he should be able to set it off against tax liability btw)
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    Re: General news season 2014
    « Reply #271 on: December 12, 2014, 11:47 »
    It is tempting to take Lefevere's side in this to some extent, because there is an undeniable them-and-us trend in French labour culture, and I say that critically despite being a total lefty myself about employment matters.

    The fact is that, for better or worse, pro cyclists are almost always contractors rather than permanent employees. The letter of their contracts is often vague but the constructive result is usually the same: they are responsible for themselves.

    The upside of this, for those who are reasonably successful, is that they are free to negotiate their own sponsorships and image rights and so on, and to make their own financial arrangements, as we have seen in the Dark Side recently.

    So it is (usually) inaccurate to think of a pro cyclist as an employee, and therefore salaried, despite the language in use here. It may be different for this anonymous rider, but the 'salary' for most pros nowadays comes from a holding company which they own or to which they belong.

    Given that context, it is not completely unacceptable to expect an individual to pay for a training camp. Nor is it completely unreasonable that he didn't go, because if you were a true, salaried employee that would be very much frowned upon.
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    Re: General news season 2014
    « Reply #272 on: December 12, 2014, 11:55 »
    Does it say what level these teams are at?

    Whether it seems reasonable enough or not is a separate discussion, but I don't think it is very honest especially as the teams appear to expect and maybe (?) in some cases come close to demanding the riders attend these training camps which they organise. In that respect there is more of an expectation from the employer that the employee partakes in the advanced training. In addition, I am not 100% what goes on in these particular training camps but it is likely the employee misses out on valuable experience of working together with his team which will put at him at a disadvantage. Of course it is a disadvantage only because in comparison to the other employees who finance their advantage, yet it doesn't strike true.
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    Re: General news season 2014
    « Reply #273 on: December 12, 2014, 12:14 »
    Dutch head wind cycling champs  :lol

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    Re: General news season 2014
    « Reply #274 on: December 12, 2014, 15:49 »
    Bart Brentjens, the former MTB pro! :o
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    Re: General news season 2014
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    Re: General news season 2014
    « Reply #277 on: December 15, 2014, 20:04 »
    http://www.sherwoodparknews.com/2014/11/27/tour-had-positive-economic-impact

    Tour of Alberta raking in the do-re-mi. CA$22 million economic impact (actually down a bit on 2013) and there's a few other stats in the article.

    Just for comparison the Tour of Utah had just a little more with US$20 million.
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    Re: General news season 2014
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