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Re: Sky
« Reply #1950 on: March 16, 2017, 19:03 »
It is quite interesting to read that he was grassed up by another rider.

namely one of EBH, Deignan, Cataldo, Swift, Sebastian Henao, Puccio or Sivtsov, by the way.

edit: or not, I misread that. Those up there were racing the Tour of Poland with him, but it happened during that time, so it was none of them
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  • « Last Edit: March 16, 2017, 19:17 by search »
    "If this is cycling, I am a banana"

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1951 on: March 16, 2017, 19:21 »
    I saw him win the Junior Tour of Wales a few years ago.
    He was a very talented rider.
    I'm uneasy about this story.
    The sport has suffered too many tragedies with such issues.
    I'm a bit concerned that Dan Roan is pushing his agenda a little too hard, with this one. :(

    Agreed. For all of the stupidity in BC at the moment, this appears to be a case where the guy really does need some help.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1952 on: March 16, 2017, 19:26 »
    Boswell it was:

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    Dr Peters confirmed to the BBC that a member of Team Sky who shared a house with Edmondson had found "a needle and some vials", and had taken a photograph of the evidence.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/39293763

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    Ian [Boswell]: My flatmate is Josh Edmondson, who’s also on Sky, so I have a training buddy.

    https://velovoices.com/2014/02/28/the-big-interview-ian-boswell-joe-dombrowski/
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1953 on: March 16, 2017, 19:47 »
    Presuming he didn't have any other housemates.

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1954 on: March 16, 2017, 19:59 »
    Just said on 5live it was Boswell.

    Good sleuthing search  :cool
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1955 on: March 16, 2017, 20:31 »
    Just said on 5live it was Boswell.

    Good sleuthing search  :cool

    Go on then. well done. Credit where it's due.   :s
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1956 on: March 17, 2017, 09:12 »
    ...
    I'm uneasy about this story.
    ...
    I'm a bit concerned that Dan Roan is pushing his agenda a little too hard, with this one. :(

    Uneasy is the right word, MV. If Sky really did cover up needle/tramadol use, that is very bad. It would be bad in isolation, but a decent PR team could probably weather the storm. But - as has been pointed out elsewhere[1] - in light of other recent stories, the perception and reporting of this will probably be skewed.

    Dan Roan is a journalist pursuing a story... I think this is a valid part of that story, and it is right that it has been brought to light. But if Edmondson - already in a vulnerable condition - becomes collateral damage, then Roan will quickly lose the high ground that he currently occupies.
     1. Though I can't remember by whom
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  • He shook his head sadly and told me that endemic drug use had compelled him to give up a promising career. "Even one small local race, prize was a salami, and I see doping!" - Tim Moore: Gironimo (Riding the Very Terrible 1914 Tour of Italy)

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1957 on: March 17, 2017, 09:19 »
    Dan is loving the limelight for sure

    Matt from the Daily Hate less so which is interesting in itself
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  • Of course, if this turns out someday to be the industry standard integrated handlebar-computer-braking solution then I'll eat my kevlar-reinforced aerodynamic hat.

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1958 on: March 17, 2017, 12:34 »
    https://twitter.com/danroan/status/842633039935102976

    Sky getting further and further from the high ground. Roan just about hanging on by attacking Peters and not Josh.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1959 on: March 17, 2017, 13:40 »
    I'm not sure any of that is untrue.

    What should you say? Lovely lad, model professional.


    It's not you, it's me.

    I just don't feel the same way about you anymore.


    Come on, one's a slap, the other's a career ending accusation. If you're saying there's no difference, you're losing the argument.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1961 on: March 17, 2017, 14:54 »
    https://twitter.com/mjshrimper/status/842744116870107137

    Kind of afraid this would be the result.
    Reading the regs, injecting, or just having the tools to do so gets treated the same.
    Clearly, JE is going to get a back dated suspension and labelled a doper by some members of the press.
    Hopefully Dan Roan won't fall into that hole.
    I really hope that this doesn't drive Josh further into a dark place.
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  • "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1962 on: March 17, 2017, 15:03 »
    Kind of afraid this would be the result.
    Reading the regs, injecting, or just having the tools to do so gets treated the same.
    Clearly, JE is going to get a back dated suspension and labelled a doper by some members of the press.
    Hopefully Dan Roan won't fall into that hole.
    I really hope that this doesn't drive Josh further into a dark place.

    this

    hope the team can rally around him NFTO that is
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1963 on: March 17, 2017, 16:13 »
    Come on, one's a slap, the other's a career ending accusation. If you're saying there's no difference, you're losing the argument.

    Plenty of riders don't get their contracts renewed, don't make it in the big leagues.

    Whatever the actual reason for letting him go (i.e. cover up or not), you don't have to lay into him in the press.

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1964 on: March 17, 2017, 17:42 »
    Plenty of riders don't get their contracts renewed, don't make it in the big leagues.

    Whatever the actual reason for letting him go (i.e. cover up or not), you don't have to lay into him in the press.


    Firstly I've reread what I wrote and I should apologise to you in that I used the words 'You' and 'You're' when I should have avoided the accusational tone with the clunkier, 'If one is 'saying there's no difference, one is losing the argument.' Sorry.

    Secondly, I don't agree with the idea that not saying anything when letting someone go isn't sending a message. In my view it sends the message, 'Not good enough'.

    The Sky message said, "Needs to grow up and get their s**t together."

    I my view a prospective employer is more likely to take a punt on the latter.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1965 on: March 21, 2017, 13:36 »
    Sky must join anti-doping group to silence doubters, says MPCC president

    Ha! Hahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! [breathe] Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #1966 on: March 21, 2017, 13:51 »
    Sky must join anti-doping group to silence doubters, says MPCC president
    Because joining MPCC worked out just swell for #brasil after all. Nobody anywhere has any doubt that they're more innocent than a newborn baby now that they're a member.
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