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Re: Sky
« Reply #930 on: July 27, 2013, 14:36 »
Not sure what to say about this


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The person holding the camera says, "it's sad, they're the best team in the Tour ... such racism ..."

I tried to figure out what the crowd was shouting but it wasn't very clear. It's ridiculous though, I have never known such a bad attitude at the roadside of any race. Obviously, this was much later on if a camper van was moving off, but I cannot understand the mob mentality.

Tasteless behaviour and completely without context. Sod all the Dark Side issues, they're not applicable here. If it were football, I'd expect it, but the experience of watching pro cycling isn't supposed to be like that, with an edgy atmosphere after the race.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #931 on: July 27, 2013, 17:52 »
    How much is the "far too much" money that Brailsford makes from Sky?

    How much is the "massive" salary paid to him by British Cycling?

    Well over a mil a year by all accounts plus cars and expenses.  Not sure what the split is but he's not short.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #932 on: July 27, 2013, 18:04 »
    Not sure what to say about this


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    I think this is what they call a lynch mob.  Not terribly pleasant.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #933 on: July 27, 2013, 18:31 »
    How awful.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #934 on: July 28, 2013, 17:24 »
    Not sure what to say about this

    It's terrible, but hopefully no one blames an entire country for a few bad apples.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #935 on: July 28, 2013, 23:43 »
    Wiggins back in the gruppetto where he belongs. Must have forgotten to warm down lately
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #936 on: July 28, 2013, 23:52 »
    *sigh*

    Welcome, Mr. Bruyneel.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #937 on: July 29, 2013, 00:35 »
    *sigh*

    Welcome, Mr. Bruyneel.

    That's "Sir David", to you.
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  • Despite the self-serving data benders and associated propaganda to the contrary, I am led to believe that there are pockets of organised, highly sophisticated dopers, even within 'new age' cycling teams. Personally, I don't accept that the 'dark era' has ended, it has just morphed into a new guise.

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #938 on: July 29, 2013, 01:06 »
    *sigh*

    Welcome, Mr. Bruyneel.

    Thanks.

    So what is happening? He suddenly forgot that he is the biggest talent in the sport since Lemond?
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #939 on: July 29, 2013, 01:13 »
    So what is happening? He suddenly forgot that he is the biggest talent in the sport since Lemond?

    Probably that he's not the designated leader for this race, therefore he's working for Henao.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #940 on: July 29, 2013, 15:32 »
    The real goal is to try and Armstrong Froome next July.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #941 on: July 29, 2013, 15:52 »
    Wasn't the Giro the last time he raced and given the lack of form he's showed this year, it would be more of a shock if he did something.

    He was doing the Sky domination thing headed into the Giro though.  Then the wheels fell off the grand tour destroyer's season.  If in fact he's actually naturally a peloton destroyer, we should see some indication before the World Championships. 

    In theory, he could ride the Vuelta and collect a podium spot by just showing up.  I wouldn't argue with anyone who would claim the Vuelta's course is not suited to him so a podium is unlikely.  In that case, he'd dominate the TT's and a couple of mountains, right? :D
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #942 on: July 29, 2013, 15:56 »
    The real goal is to try and Armstrong Froome next July.

    "Hopefully in two years time when I return to the Tour I might be the Prologue winner or I might win the Time Trial and be a credible Time Trial winner because I haven't beaten someone by two and a half minutes. Credible, clean riders are what's gonna be the future of the sport."

    Sir Brad Wiggins
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #943 on: July 30, 2013, 07:14 »
    still think Wiggo goes for P-R next year after winning the WITT or trying too, then rides the Tour in support for Porte before saying enough is enough only be spotted on the Track getting ready for Rio Gold

    Weight needs to come back on , so he does not get sick and then for the Track 2015-16
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #944 on: July 30, 2013, 07:24 »
    dunno about P-R ... but I agree about the World TT and then going back to the track in 2015 ...
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #945 on: August 02, 2013, 20:19 »
    P-R, then back to the track and a tilt at the 'Hour'

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #946 on: August 03, 2013, 06:21 »
    one of the worst meme ever

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #947 on: August 06, 2013, 17:35 »
    Sky keeps saying that what they do is preparing differently, apperently beetroot juice is a natural blood enhancer, might this be what they are doing?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/truth-about-beetroot-juice
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #948 on: August 06, 2013, 19:13 »
    Sky keeps saying that what they do is preparing differently, apperently beetroot juice is a natural blood enhancer, might this be what they are doing?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/truth-about-beetroot-juice

    Beetroot juice has been around the block , so not too new
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #949 on: August 06, 2013, 19:23 »
    Ask yourself what the difference is between Sky and BMC.

    Both teams have similar budgets.....and yet, one of the two teams is visibly slick, confident and organised, on and off the bikes, and the other is a shambles.

    Why is this? What mystery dope does this??

    What effect does this slickness have on team morale and motivation? What effect would the lack of it have?

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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #950 on: August 06, 2013, 21:31 »
    Ask yourself what the difference is between Sky and BMC.

    Both teams have similar budgets.....and yet, one of the two teams is visibly slick, confident and organised, on and off the bikes, and the other is a shambles.

    Why is this? What mystery dope does this??


    What effect does this slickness have on team morale and motivation? What effect would the lack of it have?

    Corruption.

    EDIT: And I believe they also had a bigger budget than US Postal, yet still couldn't get the same results...
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #951 on: August 06, 2013, 22:22 »
    Corruption.

    EDIT: And I believe they also had a bigger budget than US Postal, yet still couldn't get the same results...

    LOL. Nobody wants those results.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #952 on: August 07, 2013, 08:25 »
    Corruption.

    EDIT: And I believe they also had a bigger budget than US Postal, yet still couldn't get the same results...

    That's because USPS were massive dopers with the UCI in their pocket (allegedly)
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #953 on: August 07, 2013, 09:12 »
    That's because USPS were massive dopers with the UCI in their pocket (allegedly)

    There is far more than allegations.

    The endless vigorous defense of Armstrong's results as clean.  Even after the guy retired they produced a letter for Hamilton's 60 Minutes segment defending Dopestrong.  How many retired riders would get the time of day from someone at the UCI, much less a formal letter denying claims. Later still,  Pat and Hein were both reluctant to enforce the USADA ban.   

    Until Doprah, then their story changed.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #954 on: August 12, 2013, 22:43 »
    Why is Wiggins gaining 8 kilograms of weight for the Worlds individual time trial? He was destroying everyone when he looked like he was on 0% fat ratio already, why does he need to gain so much weight? Why break the winning formula? And how is Wiggins able to gain and lose so much weight so quickly? 8 kilograms of muscle, I assume that its not fat, is a HUGE amount and not done in a few weeks, normally.
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #955 on: August 12, 2013, 22:58 »
    Why is Wiggins gaining 8 kilograms of weight for the Worlds individual time trial? He was destroying everyone when he looked like he was on 0% fat ratio already, why does he need to gain so much weight? Why break the winning formula? And how is Wiggins able to gain and lose so much weight so quickly? 8 kilograms of muscle, I assume that its not fat, is a HUGE amount and not done in a few weeks, normally.

    The magic of sky.........................
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #956 on: August 13, 2013, 05:05 »
    Does this mean he will be now as good as he was in 2006?
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #957 on: August 13, 2013, 05:32 »
    Does this mean he will be now as good as he was in 2006?

    Exactly heavy brad gets his ass kicked by anorexic brad climbing and tting
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #958 on: August 13, 2013, 08:19 »
    Does this mean he will be now as good as he was in 2006?

    If yesterday's performance is anything to go by, then the answer is yes.

    The magic of sky.........................

    More likely the magic of beer.  ;)
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    Re: Sky
    « Reply #959 on: August 13, 2013, 12:33 »
    I must admit I didnt see the Tour of Poland TT but when I read the report on CN something odd struck me:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-pologne-2013/stage-7/results
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    Wiggins looked comfortable from the moment he rolled down the start ramp and settled immediately into his familiar high cadence. Unlike at the Giro d’Italia time trial at Saltara – incidentally, his only other individual time trial this season – there were no mechanical mishaps, and Wiggins duly crossed the finish line with a time some 56 seconds quicker than Cancellara and 1:14 faster than Taylor Phinney (BMC).
    Didnt we learn from Wiggins last year he lowered his cadence? To be able to match Tony Martin's TT skills?

    So, low cadence at low weight. High cadence at 8 kiloos extra? Or does he need some extra pies to reach the magic 8 kiloos extra, what would set him at 77 kilo for the Worlds TT?

    One thing he is very clear at, with those 8 kilo extra he cant climb anymore. It would be interesting to ask him how he was timetrialling at the same level last year with all those less kiloos on board.

    It is good he is back in the media, I missed him. He is a funny oll chap.

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