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Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2017, 14:07 »
They took a wrong turn and just kept going this isn't the TTT course  :D
Katusha got it wrong twice yesterday  :lol
I hope there will be someone to guide them the right way tomorrow ... :shh

Meanwhile, can you help me with this? Somehow, the Worlds circuit and what's mappable on RideWithGPS don't align:
They appear to be using a tunnel underneath Universitet/Muséhagen and then go onto the 555? But how? No matter what I try, I can't get the site/program to follow the road(s) that the Worlds apparently use. :slow[1]
 1. By the way, I have a similar problem with the Arctic Race circuit in Narvik that apparently crosses the ore harbour facilities on a road/bridge/footpath that isn't on Google Maps nor OSM, and doesn't show on satellite images either :S
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #61 on: September 16, 2017, 17:31 »
    RidewithGPS has some algorithms for making it easy to follow a road that sometimes isn't helpful in urban areas. There is a small tunnel through Nygårdshøyden that exits on to Puddefjordbroen with a little loop to climb to the bridge level.
    In everyday USE it is off-limits to everyone except buses and other public service vehicles.
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #63 on: September 16, 2017, 22:07 »
    In everyday USE it is off-limits to everyone except buses and other public service vehicles.
    This is the problem, I think: The tunnel shows up on the map, but it's completely impossible to use it on any route (not just on RideWithGPS, anywhere).
    I'm not a bus, so I'm not allowed to use it when "driving"; and as neither cyclists nor pedestrians are allowed to use it, "walking" or "cycling" modes don't help either.
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #64 on: September 16, 2017, 22:08 »
    https://twitter.com/cdncyclist/status/909103681043345409

    Not ordinary trashcans either. Basically it is the heads of a giant underground vacuum-sucker system that means your garbage ends up in a container in a building on the docks about 1 km away. From there is is transported to a recycling facility south of town. No garbage trucks!   :)
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #65 on: September 16, 2017, 22:10 »
    This is the problem, I think: The tunnel shows up on the map, but it's completely impossible to use it on any route (not just on RideWithGPS, anywhere).
    I'm not a bus, so I'm not allowed to use it when "driving"; and as neither cyclists nor pedestrians are allowed to use it, "walking" or "cycling" modes don't help either.

    The solution, turn of all their guiding systems and draw a straight line, manually!
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #66 on: September 17, 2017, 08:15 »
    The solution, turn of all their guiding systems and draw a straight line, manually!
    Great minds think alike! :D
    That's what I thought of yesterday, right after posting.

    So here's an alternative Worlds circuit with both Birkelundsbakken and Landåslien/Sollien/Ulriken[1]:

    It's a bit longer (23 km vs. 19.1 km), but to make up for that, it's also harder: 337 altitude metres vs. 270 altitude metres[2], and with a steeper hill thrown in.
    If the men's elite did 9 laps of this instead of 11 laps of the actual circuit, they'd have the same distance, but almost twice as many hills to attack on.


    Another question for the local expert: Is there a road (an asphalted one) to get down from Fløyen if you take a road race up the climb they use in the men's time trial? ;)
     1. honestly, "Salmon Hill" or even "Laksebakken" is a stupid name thought up by a marketing company - it wasn't called that before this year (or was it?)
     2. it's actually a bit less due to the tunnels, but those are the same on both circuits
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #67 on: September 17, 2017, 17:49 »
    The TTTs were held today. I was watching with one eye, but didn't pay particularly close attention: A TTT is simply not very exciting to watch on TV.

    First off were the women, and several teams completely fell apart on Birkelundsbakken. #tvc had especially bad luck as defending ITT world champion Amber Neben had a mechanical just before the uphill started, they were down to only four riders, and Villumsen had to rein herself in on the climb in order to not drop her remaining three teammates.
    The victory was between the two Dutch teams, #boels Boels Dolmans and #sunweb Team Sunweb, and the latter certainly created some memories[1], beating the defending champions by twelve seconds.

    Place Time Distance Speed (km/h)
    1 #sun Team Sunweb 55'41" 55'41" 45.795
    BRAND Lucinda
    KIRCHMANN Leah
    MACKAIJ Floortje
    RIVERA Coryn
    STULTIENS Sabrina
    VAN DIJK Ellen
    2 #boels Boels - Dolmans Cycling Team 55'53" + 12" 45.631
    BLAAK Chantal
    CANUEL Karol-Ann
    GUARNIER Megan
    MAJERUS Christine
    PIETERS Amy
    VAN DER BREGGEN Anna
    3 #bigla Cervélo-Bigla Pro Cycling 56'09" + 28" 45.414
    POHL Stephanie
    KLEIN Lisa
    KOPPENBURG Clara
    LEPISTÖ Lotta
    LUDWIG Cecilie Uttrup
    MOOLMAN Ashleigh
    4 #canyon Canyon SRAM Racing 56'46" + 1'05" 44.921
    BARNES Hannah
    BRENNAUER Lisa
    CECCHINI Elena
    KRÖGER Mieke
    RYAN Alexis
    WORRACK Trixi
    5 #tvc Team Virtu Cycling Women 58'33" + 2'52" 43.553
    KOSTER Claudia
    SIGGAARD Christina
    MATHIESEN Pernille
    NEBEN Amber
    PENTON Sara
    VILLUMSEN Linda
    6 #futuroscope FDJ Nouvelle Aquitaine Futuroscope 59'04" + 3'23" 43.172
    BIANNIC Aude
    DEMAY Coralie
    DUVAL Eugénie
    FOURNIER Roxane
    GILLOW Shara
    KNETEMANN Roxane
    7 #btc BTC City Ljubljana 59'28" + 3'47" 42.881
    BATAGELJ Polona
    BOOGAARD Maaike
    BUJAK Eugenia
    LECHNER Corinna
    NILSSON Hanna
    PINTAR Urša
    8 #bepink BePink Cogeas 59'48" + 4'07" 42.642
    JACKSON Alison
    PATTARO Francesca
    RAGUSA Katia
    SANGUINETI Ilaria
    VALSECCHI Silvia
    ZABELINSKAYA Olga
    9 #hitec Hitec Products 1h00'40" + 4'59" 42.033
    BECKER Charlotte
    BJØRNSRUD Miriam
    FRAPPORTI Simona
    JOHNSEN Cecilie Gotaas
    KESSLER Nina
    THORSEN Thea

    Then followed the men. First, #joker Joker Icopal comfortably won the inofficial Norwegian TTT champions against the three other local Conti teams in the race, beating them (as well as the only non-Norwegian Conti team, Sangemini-MG.K Vis) by two minutes and more.
    In the competition for the win, #bmc were in front for most of the time, but they faltered after Birkelundsbakken when they were down to only four riders. Team Sunweb still had five at this point, and that made the difference: The lead changed in the last kilometres, and after the women's success, the #sunweb men could also celebrate the title.

    Place Time Distance Speed (km/h)
    1 #sunweb Team Sunweb 47'50" 47'50" 53.310
    DUMOULIN Tom
    KÄMNA Lennard
    KELDERMAN Wilco
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh
    MATTHEWS Michael
    OOMEN Sam
    2 #bmc BMC Racing Team 47'58" + 8" 53.162
    DENNIS Rohan
    DILLIER Silvan
    KÜNG Stefan
    OSS Daniel
    SCOTSON Miles
    VAN GARDEREN Tejay
    3 #sky Team Sky 48'12" + 22" 52.905
    DOULL Owain
    FROOME Christopher
    KIRYIENKA Vasil
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal
    MOSCON Gianni
    THOMAS Geraint
    4 #quickstep Quick-Step Floors 48'25" + 35" 52.668
    BAUER Jack
    GILBERT Philippe
    JUNGELS Bob
    LAMPAERT Yves
    TERPSTRA Niki
    VERMOTE Julien
    5 #orica ORICA-Scott 48'33" + 43" 52.523
    DURBRIDGE Luke
    EDMONDSON Alexander
    HEPBURN Michael
    HOWSON Damien
    IMPEY Daryl
    TUFT Svein
    6 #movistar Movistar Team 49'09" + 1'19" 51.882
    AMADOR Andrey 
    CASTROVIEJO Jonathan 
    DOWSETT Alex 
    ERVITI Imanol 
    IZAGIRRE Gorka 
    SÜTTERLIN Jasha 
    7 #jumbo Team LottoNL-Jumbo 49'10" + 1'20" 51.864
    BOOM Lars 
    CAMPENAERTS Victor 
    CLEMENT Stef 
    ROGLIC Primoz 
    VAN EMDEN Jos 
    VAN HOECKE Gijs 
    8 #ccc CCC Sprandi Polkowice 49'34" + 1'44" 51.446
    BIALOBLOCKI Marcin 
    KOCH Jonas 
    OWSIAN Lukasz 
    PATERSKI Maciej 
    TACIAK Mateusz 
    TRATNIK Jan 
    9 #katusha Team Katusha Alpecin 49'36" + 1'46" 51.411
    HOLLENSTEIN Reto 
    KRISTOFF Alexander 
    MACHADO Tiago 
    MARTIN Tony 
    MØRKØV Michael 
    POLITT Nils 
    10 #bora BORA - hansgrohe 49'45" + 1'55" 51.256
    BÁRTA Jan 
    BODNAR Maciej 
    BURGHARDT Marcus 
    KONRAD Patrick 
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas 
    SARAMOTINS Aleksejs 
    11 #astana Astana Pro Team 50'06" + 2'16" 50.898
    CATALDO Dario 
    CHERNETCKII Sergei 
    GATTO Oscar 
    GRIVKO Andrei 
    KORSAETH Truls 
    LUTSENKO Alexey 
    12 #trek Trek - Segafredo 50'40" + 2'50" 50.329
    BRÄNDLE Matthias 
    COLEDAN Marco 
    DE KORT Koen 
    IRIZAR Markel 
    PANTANO Jarlinson 
    THEUNS Edward 
    13 #joker Team Joker Icopal 50'58" + 3'08" 50.033
    FORFANG Ole 
    HAGEN Carl Fredrik 
    HALVORSEN Kristoffer 
    HOELGAARD Markus 
    HOEM Bjørn Tore 
    SKJERPING Kristoffer 
    14 #sangemini Sangemini - MG.K Vis 52'52" + 5'02" 48.235
    BERNARDINI Simone 
    GAFFURINI Nicola 
    GAZZARA Michele 
    SALVIETTI Niccolò 
    SCARTEZZINI Michele 
    TOTÒ Paolo 
    15 #unox Uno-X Hydrogen Development Team 53'00" + 5'10" 48.113
    FLØTTEN Audun Brekke 
    RESELL Erik Nordsæter 
    RUDLAND Hans Kristian 
    SLEEN Torjus 
    TRÆEN Torstein 
    WÆRSTED Syver 
    16 #fixit Team FixIT.no 53'11" + 5'21" 47.947
    BLÅLID Marius 
    EIKELAND Ken Levi 
    LØVIK Asmund Romstad 
    MADSEN Kristoffer 
    ØVERLAND Bjørnar 
    SPIKSETH Elias Angell 
    17 #sparsor Team Sparebanken Sør 53'20" + 5'30" 47.813
    AASVOLD Kristian 
    DAHL Herman 
    RØINÅS Fridtjof 
    SKJOLD Mathias 
    TRONDSEN Trond 
    VANGSTAD Andreas 
     1. sorry for using their tacky corporate hashtag, but it fits
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #68 on: September 17, 2017, 21:04 »
    https://twitter.com/AstanaTeam/status/908998799418372096

    They took a wrong turn and just kept going

    "Got a team of six from Astana, Jack,
    They went out for a ride and they never went back,
    Like a river that don't know where its flowing,
    They took a Wrong turn and they just kept going,

    Every bodys got a hungry heart......."
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #69 on: September 17, 2017, 21:15 »
    Not ordinary trashcans either. Basically it is the heads of a giant underground vacuum-sucker system that means your garbage ends up in a container in a building on the docks about 1 km away. From there is is transported to a recycling facility south of town. No garbage trucks!   :)

    It's like something out of a sci-fi novel. I could do with one in my kitchen to be honest, the amount of stuff that they want you to recycle these days, jaysus.

    Let's spare a thought though for Jostein, the now unemployed ex-garbage truck driver from Bergen.
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #70 on: September 17, 2017, 21:59 »
    OK, watching it all from a different perspective, I think it was great.

    Maybe I should start by saying that one of Norway's most traditional cycling races is a kind of team time trial, from Trondheim to Oslo. (Check distance on map  :S )

    First of all, no doubt we got two worthy winners. #sunweb and #sunweb There's already a story in local newpaper BT about Sunweb spending time here in May with members both teams, preparing for this. After trying the course, the management of Sunweb decided they teams they originally had in mind, were the wrong ones. The revised selections were obviously right.
    Bergen 2017 Team Sunweb TTT victory at Vetrlidsalmenningen
    (my photo :) )

    I watched both races streetside, and unfortunately didn't get a good picture of the #sunweb women's team, because #fdj was right ahead of them and I looked up from my camera to be completely surprised by Sunweb coming up the hill like a tornado. I watched the women's race from a different position, closer to home, and in a small climb where I actually had a very good view, 200 meters up and down, but the camera restricted the view and the surprising speed with which #sunweb was catching up with #fdj I guess was the defining moment, sportswise, of the day.

    FDJ in Årstadveien
    This is the only picture I got of FDJ / Sunweb situation. Imagine, Sunweb was on their heels when they passed me.  :S It was radical!

    However, the best thing about the day, was that cycling won Bergen and Bergen won cycling  :D there will be less complaining and more enthousiasm in town after this.
    I think we already broke Doha's audience figures on the first day of training (according to Aleksander Kristoff, there were more people watching them training on Saturday than there were spectators for all days total in Quatar). Today we probably accummulated 40000% more specators than in Quatar on the same day, and almost everyone had a good time.

    I will post some more pictures when I find the time to separate the good ones from the pile.


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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #71 on: September 17, 2017, 22:39 »
    OK, spectators come from everywhere...these go for the clever hat awards, or is that just an alien abduction?



    Best hats or?
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #73 on: September 18, 2017, 00:25 »
    I think "adverse camber" is more common, but I got what you meant and I think you can use it.
    This might be a case of US English vs Britannia. "Off camber" would universally be used in the US, whereas "adverse camber" would never be found.
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #74 on: September 18, 2017, 00:27 »
    Didn't get to watch the TTT live, but I'm watching it on recording! Lovely area! I'll bet owning a house around there is expensive. Very pretty in the summer.
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #75 on: September 18, 2017, 00:40 »
    OK, spectators come from everywhere...these go for the clever hat awards, or is that just an alien abduction?



    Best hats or?

    Aliens. Rasta popcorn dreads aliens. Yup. They beamed me up --- have I told you that story? 

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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #76 on: September 18, 2017, 08:18 »
    Another photo of Hiero's aliens (with their probes?!).

    https://twitter.com/cdncyclist/status/909430941340389377
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #77 on: September 18, 2017, 08:31 »
    http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/61315/mondial-juniors-dames-clm-les-horaires-de-depart

    Junior Women's TT Start List:

    10:35:00 47 VIGILIA Alessia ITA   
    10:36:30 46 HAILU Zayd ETH   
    10:38:00 45 KESTHONGLANG Kanyarat THA   
    10:39:30 44 SOLOVYEVA Anzhela KAZ   
    10:41:00 43 RAMIREZ FREGOSO Andrea MEX 
    10:42:30 42 YOUNGWERTH Abigail USA   
    10:44:00 41 DOLAN Lauren GBR   
    10:45:30 40 JUSKEVICIUTE Juste LTU   
    10:47:00 39 ATTWELL Erin J CAN 
    10:48:30 38 KOLESAVA Anastasiya BLR   
    10:50:00 37 GJOS Martine NOR   
    10:51:30 36 CASTRIQUE Alana BEL   
    10:53:00 35 WIEL Jade FRA   
    10:54:30 34 GILABERT VILAPLANA Ariana ESP 
    10:56:00 33 RAAIJMAKERS Marit NED   
    10:57:30 32 MALKOVA Daria RUS   
    10:59:00 31 LUDWIG Hannah GER   
    11:00:30 30 PATERNOSTER Letizia ITA   
    11:02:00 29 KASAHUN Tsadkan ETH   
    11:03:30 28 ROWSE Alyssa BER   
    11:05:00 27 BATRIYA Chaniporn THA   
    11:06:30 26 SETIAWAN Liontin Evangelina INA 
    11:08:00 25 SHIMOYAMA Misuzu JPN   
    11:09:30 24 KURNOSSOVA Marina KAZ   
    11:11:00 23 COVARRUBIAS ROCHA Cinthya Teresita MEX
    11:12:30 22 MOAK Summer USA   
    11:14:00 21 FASNACHT Madeleine AUS   
    11:15:30 20 GEORGI Pfeiffer GBR   
    11:17:00 19 KULYNYCH Olha UKR   
    11:18:30 18 PUSKALA Viivi FIN   
    11:20:00 17 PENKO Karin SLO   
    11:21:30 16 STEGVILAITE Regina LTU   
    11:23:00 15 JUSSAUME Laurie CAN   
    11:24:30 14 SALAUYEVA Aksana BLR   
    11:26:00 13 KRAHEMANN Lara SUI   
    11:27:30 12 UTVIK Emelie Roe NOR 
    11:29:00 11 BOSSUYT Shari BEL   
    11:30:30 10 LE NET Marie FRA 
    11:32:00 9 MARTIN MARTIN Sara ESP 
    11:33:30 8 GRUBER-STADLER Hannah AUT   
    11:35:00 7 DE RUITER Anne NED 
    11:36:30 6 JASKULSKA Marta POL   
    11:38:00 5 NOVOLODSKAYA Maria RUS   
    11:39:30 4 TEUTENBERG Lea Lin GER 
    11:41:00 3 HARSCH Anne-Sophie LUX   
    11:42:30 2 JORGENSEN Emma Cecilie Norsgaard DEN
    11:44:00 1 PIRRONE Elena ITA

    I recognise a few - Paternoster, Moak (McNulty's girlfriend), Georgi, Teutenberg (daughter of Lars), Norsgaard Jorgensen and Pirrone. My pick is the Dane.

    Event should start in ~1 hour.
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #78 on: September 18, 2017, 08:53 »
    Junior Women's TT Start List:

    My pick is the Dane.
    Always a good pick! :cool
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #79 on: September 18, 2017, 11:18 »


    Changeable conditions meant it looked like the first rider off (Vigilia) would be in the hot seat for the entire event. Conditions did improve towards the end according to Ant McCrossan, but still none of the late starters apart from Perrone did much to show that that was the case.
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #80 on: September 18, 2017, 11:25 »
    http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/61316/mondial-espoirs-hommes-clm-les-horaires-de-depart

    U23 Men's TT Start List:

    13:05:00 57 JORGENSEN Mathias Norsgaard DEN 
    13:06:30 56 HABTOM TEKLE Awet ERI 
    13:08:00 55 GROSELJ Matic SLO   
    13:09:30 54 HUERTAS ARAYA Jason Andrey CRC
    13:11:00 53 SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio ESP 
    13:12:30 52 COWAN Alexander CAN   
    13:14:00 51 BRAUN Julian GER   
    13:15:30 50 SAJNOK Szymon POL   
    13:17:00 49 GAMPER Patrick AUT   
    13:18:30 48 OKA Atsushi JPN   
    13:20:00 47 GENIETS Kevin LUX   
    13:21:30 46 KNOTTEN Iver Johan NOR 
    13:55:00 45 VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan BEL 
    13:56:30 44 SCHAPPI Martin SUI   
    13:58:00 43 SIVAKOV Pavel RUS   
    13:59:30 42 AFFINI Edoardo ITA   
    14:01:00 41 MCNULTY Brandon USA   
    14:02:30 40 CAVAGNA Remi FRA   
    14:04:00 39 BJERG Mikkel DEN   
    14:05:30 38 KAGIMU Charles UGA   
    14:07:00 37 LANGELLOTTI Victor MON   
    14:08:30 36 PETROVSKI Andrej MKD   
    14:10:00 35 BATSAIKHAN Tegshbayar MGL   
    14:11:30 34 MOREIRA Mauricio URU   
    14:45:00 33 CHOKRI El Mehdi MAR 
    14:46:30 32 GOLDSHTEIN Omer ISR   
    14:48:00 31 MUSIE MEHARI Saymon ERI 
    14:49:30 30 MILTIADIS Andreas CYP   
    14:51:00 29 GAVARS Eriks Toms LAT 
    14:52:30 28 PENKO Izidor SLO   
    14:54:00 27 JARA RODRIGUEZ Daniel CRC 
    14:55:30 26 FUNG Ka Hoo HKG 
    14:57:00 25 PEAK Barnabas HUN   
    14:58:30 24 NATAROV Yuriy KAZ   
    15:00:00 23 CASTRILLO ZAPATER Jaime ESP 
    15:01:30 22 VILLALOBOS HERNANDEZ Luis Ricardo MEX
    15:35:00 21 GOUGH Regan NZL   
    15:36:30 20 BURKE Jack CAN   
    15:38:00 19 HALLER Patrick GER   
    15:39:30 18 NOVAKOVSKYI Vitaliy UKR   
    15:41:00 17 BROZYNA Piotr POL   
    15:42:30 16 FREIBERGER Markus AUT   
    15:44:00 15 OLIVEIRA Ivo POR   
    15:45:30 14 ONODERA Rei JPN   
    15:47:00 13 O'LOUGHLIN Michael IRL   
    15:48:30 12 SCOTSON Callum AUS   
    15:50:00 11 WIRTGEN Tom LUX   
    15:51:30 10 FOSS Tobias S. NOR 
    16:25:00 9 LEYSEN Senne BEL   
    16:26:30 8 HIRSCHI Marc SUI   
    16:28:00 7 MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe COL
    16:29:30 6 STRAKHOV Dmitrii RUS   
    16:31:00 5 DAVIES Scott GBR   
    16:32:30 4 BACCIO Paolo ITA   
    16:34:00 3 POWLESS Neilson USA   
    16:35:30 2 ERMENAULT Corentin FRA   
    16:37:00 1 ASGREEN Kasper DEN
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  • hiero

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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #81 on: September 18, 2017, 12:30 »
    This is the problem, I think: The tunnel shows up on the map, but it's completely impossible to use it on any route (not just on RideWithGPS, anywhere).
    I'm not a bus, so I'm not allowed to use it when "driving"; and as neither cyclists nor pedestrians are allowed to use it, "walking" or "cycling" modes don't help either.
    A little self-knowledge can be a fine thing. Glad to see you are discovering your true identity.

     :lol  ;)
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #82 on: September 18, 2017, 12:45 »
    I'm behind you guys - watching the women's TTT on recording. Lovely. Sunweb and Boels particularly smooth out of the ramp and slotting in. Virtu and BePink blowing apart - not as good on the teamwork - but Virtu knowing the capacity of who is left and pulling out a decent performance in spite of not working together up the hill.

    Nice course - a completely different challenge to a dead flat course, where teamwork is pre-eminient. Course like this you have to have your mental game together, and a proper strategy in advance can make all the difference. A challenging course. Lovely!

    Sunweb getting the strategy right, keeping it 6 until after the hill, and then smoking the course. Boels keeps it 5 up to the cobbles, and it gets down to the nitty-gritty.

    I'm liking this. Some public commentators have noted these teams don't get to wear any rainbow badge - which is a shame. They should get to wear some sort of badge for this one.

    I haven't watched the men's yet, but based on the reporting, it sounds like the course - and the strategy and mental game it requires - made a difference in the men's as it did the women's.
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #83 on: September 18, 2017, 17:00 »
    Just finished watching the men's TTT. Great race! And the CROWDS!! Fantastic! And turning out for a traditionally very boring and least interesting discipline!
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #84 on: September 18, 2017, 17:22 »
    Mikkel Bjerg set an early benchmark ... and, frankly, nobody else was even in the same league today.
    The gap from 1st to second is as large as that from 2nd to 12th! :o




    Medal table after the first day:
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    1 *it Italy 1 1 0
    2 *dk Denmark 1 0 0
    3 *us USA 0 1 0
    4 *fr France 0 0 1
    5 *au Australia 0 0 1
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    t-72

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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #85 on: September 18, 2017, 21:33 »
    More pictures from Sunday

    Cervelo Bigla Bergen 2017 TTT world championship

    EDIT: Is that Lotta Lepistö in 2nd position? Who's in first?
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #86 on: September 18, 2017, 21:36 »
    Lotto-Jumbo #jumbo at Vetrlidsalmenningen. Notice last rider conducting the cheering from the crowd  :)

    lotto-jumbo TTT Vetrlidsalmenningen

    ID the riders anyone?
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #87 on: September 18, 2017, 21:39 »
    CCC did a quite good race, beating some WT squads. Here they are at Vetrlidsalmenningen.

    DSC_0282_v1
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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #88 on: September 18, 2017, 21:43 »
    This picture is a bit sad. A conti team with local roots (their team car was often seen parked outside a house in the "salmon hill" last year), #fixit can't find new sponsors (or the motivation to find them) and this is the exact last moment I saw them, as this was their final race. I will have to say, if you are a conti team, racing in the worlds got to qualify for the "ending on a high note" tag.

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    Re: World Championships 2017: Bergen, Norway!
    « Reply #89 on: September 18, 2017, 21:52 »
    ....
    So here's an alternative Worlds circuit with both Birkelundsbakken and Landåslien/Sollien/Ulriken[1]:

    It's a bit longer (23 km vs. 19.1 km), but to make up for that, it's also harder: 337 altitude metres vs. 270 altitude metres[2], and with a steeper hill thrown in.
    If the men's elite did 9 laps of this instead of 11 laps of the actual circuit, they'd have the same distance, but almost twice as many hills to attack on.


    Another question for the local expert: Is there a road (an asphalted one) to get down from Fløyen if you take a road race up the climb they use in the men's time trial? ;)
     1. honestly, "Salmon Hill" or even "Laksebakken" is a stupid name thought up by a marketing company - it wasn't called that before this year (or was it?)
     2. it's actually a bit less due to the tunnels, but those are the same on both circuits

    There's nothing you can use for the peloton, it would have to an MTF, but if you want to change something you could go up to Rundemanen, continuing from Fløyen to the highest peak behind it. Now theoretically there's a couple of gravel paths up the backside - make that two of the backsides, actually...

    Anyway, there isn't a shortage of neither roads nor climbs around this city, the puzzle is to make a plan for what you need to close off for the city to keep mimum functions while the race course is fenced off. Locals don't use the the roads close to the city centre very much for cycling. In the countryside there's miles and miles of narrow rural roads in mostly rolling hilly terrain with the odd really hard climb hidden in corners here and there, and mostly without too many cars. If the worlds could be run without the "Grand Prix"  style of racing we could have made a much nicer race with a long countryside part and a few laps in the city to finish it off with. 

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