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Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
« Reply #90 on: November 23, 2014, 21:04 »
Yep. Especially when compared with the level of fluency many native English speakers have in any other language ...
I've no idea what you're talking about.  :P

 :lol

About a year ago, I was asked by an Icelander (another people with great English skills) if I had lived in England because my English was so good and with no accent at all. At that point, I had spent a grand total of 10 hours in the UK. :D
I spent a few weeks in Korea some years ago, it was part of a tour that took the band I was with to Okinawa and Japan as well. Shortly after returning, I visited to a local Tae Kwan Do school. When the master instructor appeared (who was Korean), without thinking about it, I greeted him in Korean. He told me afterward that he suspected that I had lived in Korea for at least a few years, so convincing was my take on his native language.
My accent, according to him, was "perfect."  :P

If so, I would attribute that to the fact that while there, I did pay close attention to the nuances of the language when listening to causal exchanges in shops and restaurants. The cadence and unique melodic emphasis were things that I paid particular attention to. I suppose that would be the logical  extension of my musical background. But I also have enough respect for any language not to butcher it as badly as New York City's Mayor Bloomberg does in the above clip.
I mean FFS!  :angry  :D
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #91 on: November 23, 2014, 21:14 »
    Another one of my all-time favorites.  :D

    :D
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #92 on: November 23, 2014, 21:18 »
    I've since spent several days in Norn Iron, having a lot of craic.
    ¿Qué? No entiendo.
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #93 on: November 23, 2014, 21:24 »
    I presume he means craic, unless Craig is some friend of his in Norn Iron (Northern Ireland).  :P
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #94 on: November 23, 2014, 21:36 »
    I presume he means craic, unless Craig is some friend of his in Norn Iron (Northern Ireland).  :P
    I have no idea what you're talking about ... :s :P

    My friend in Norn Iron isn't called Craig, he's called James. :)
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #95 on: November 23, 2014, 21:47 »
    This is all Greek to me.  :P

    New things learned today!

    Norn Iron = Northern Ireland

    And this:
    http://www.ireland-fun-facts.com/craic.html
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #96 on: December 06, 2014, 15:28 »
    From this morning's 'cross race


    https://twitter.com/nyvelocity/status/541235181731184641

    https://twitter.com/nyvelocity/status/541235361859792896


    Although I'm not entirely sure that I even understand it myself.  :D
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #97 on: December 07, 2014, 12:24 »
    Trombones and Tuba


    Percussion


     :lol
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #98 on: January 19, 2015, 21:33 »
    Here's a question for all you Babylonians:

    If I were make a study of one European language, which one would you suggest, and why?

    I'm a bit curious to see if there's a consensus on which language would prove to be the most useful to someone such as myself.

    Dankjewel, in advance.  :P
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #99 on: January 19, 2015, 21:38 »
    Here's a question for all you Babylonians:

    If I were make a study of one European language, which one would you suggest, and why?

    I'm a bit curious to see if there's a consensus on which language would prove to be the most useful to someone such as myself.

    Dankjewel, in advance.  :P


    Depends on what you want it for, but seeing as you're an American I would say Spanish, esp in New York or one of the southern states, or when you might want to go to South America
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #100 on: January 19, 2015, 21:53 »
    What barrus said:
    Depends on what you want it for
    *it Italian is beautiful. *de German is ... German, *cz Czech is a challenge. :)
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #101 on: January 19, 2015, 21:56 »
    I would say Spanish, esp in New York or one of the southern states, or when you might want to go to South America

    I probably should have said, besides Spanish, because that's the one language I "studied" in school, and I'm around it, to some extent, on a nearly daily basis. But the language doesn't really appeal to me, and, I suppose, like many Americans, I have a certain resentment in regards to that language being forced on me at times.

    That's not to say that I wouldn't prefer to have a much better grasp of Spanish, but if I chose to, there are plenty of avenues available to me to improve my skills in that area.
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #102 on: January 19, 2015, 22:11 »
    Here's a question for all you Babylonians:

    If I were make a study of one European language, which one would you suggest, and why?

    I'm a bit curious to see if there's a consensus on which language would prove to be the most useful to someone such as myself.

    Dankjewel, in advance.  :P

    Latin. In addition to the history and culture, you get basic automatic recognition of Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, ... Worked for me, anyway.

    I don't know. I write that and I sigh about it.

    I suppose the other guys have covered utility, so let's look at it as a question of fun instead: consider which culture you most want to study, enjoy and visit and go with that one.

    For me that was always French, for the cycling, the vin and the extraordinary variety of landscapes. Italian colleague of mine once said that he was learning French because it sounded like exquisite music when whispered in bed. Good a reason as any, I say...
    :P
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #103 on: January 20, 2015, 03:37 »
    There are a lot of masters of a lot of language really. Then it is a great chance for you to give me a piece of advice as well. i would like to grab this chance. I would like to learn a new language, but could not decided among Spanish, French and Russia by self learning.

    Native in Chinese, Fluent in English and basic in Japanese.

    Your advice would be appreciated.  :D
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #104 on: January 20, 2015, 12:57 »
    There are a lot of masters of a lot of language really. Then it is a great chance for you to give me a piece of advice as well. i would like to grab this chance. I would like to learn a new language, but could not decided among Spanish, French and Russia by self learning.

    Native in Chinese, Fluent in English and basic in Japanese.

    Your advice would be appreciated.  :D

    I'm a native English speaker, fluent in Spanish and currently learning a little Russian. It depends entirely on why you want to learn a new language really, but Spanish is certainly easier to learn as I've found getting to grips with the Cyrillic alphabet quite difficult. Of course there are also great benefits in terms of opportunities to travel around Latin America.

    Having said that, once you understand the Russian alphabet it is relatively simple to pronounce words, insofar as the letters read semi phonetically. I've also found it incredibly rewarding to learn, so would recommend Russian too!
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #105 on: January 20, 2015, 23:44 »
    if you follow cycling, either French or Spanish would be more useful   :cool
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #106 on: January 20, 2015, 23:57 »
    Dutch so you can watch Sporza. (there is no other use for it :P)
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #107 on: January 21, 2015, 01:36 »
    I am not fluent..but studied Spanish for several years and can read..if I immersed would become pretty comfortable.
    I speak enough Nepali to get by..
    and as per L'arri I took Latin..so can fake a little bit in Italian.  :P
    languages fascinate me and I try hard to pick up as much as I can when I travel...my mouth has a difficult time doing French though.. :Sleepy:
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #108 on: January 21, 2015, 01:47 »
    ...my mouth has a difficult time doing French though.

    And Mr. Mew is OK with that?  :P

     :-x

     :lol
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    « Reply #109 on: January 21, 2015, 01:52 »
    jokester ^^^^ :dizzy
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #110 on: January 21, 2015, 02:14 »
    I'm a native English speaker, fluent in Spanish and currently learning a little Russian. It depends entirely on why you want to learn a new language really, but Spanish is certainly easier to learn as I've found getting to grips with the Cyrillic alphabet quite difficult. Of course there are also great benefits in terms of opportunities to travel around Latin America.

    Having said that, once you understand the Russian alphabet it is relatively simple to pronounce words, insofar as the letters read semi phonetically. I've also found it incredibly rewarding to learn, so would recommend Russian too!

    Thank you so much for the tips. As we have sponsored Spanish cycling teams, communicating with the agents and teams with Spanish would  close the gap. And the cycling market in the Russia is not so bright compared with Spain, I guess I would choose Spanish then. But personally I really like Russian President Putin very much.  :cool

    And thank you for your analysis. :D
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #111 on: March 28, 2015, 17:54 »
    Speaking of old English Kings...

    What the English of Shakespeare, Beowulf, and King Arthur actually sounded like

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    Old English is a bit of a misleading name. It's not understandable at all to modern English speakers; you'd have an easier time learning Dutch or Danish. Some people prefer to call it Anglo-Saxon, since it's the language that was brought over by the Angles and Saxons, invaders from northern Germany who took over Britain in the 600s.

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    What Arthur and his knights of the round table, and all the other people around then and there, would have been speaking was something we now call Brythonic or Brittonic: a Celtic language. Completely unlike modern English.


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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #112 on: March 28, 2015, 21:19 »
    Speaking of old English Kings...

    What the English of Shakespeare, Beowulf, and King Arthur actually sounded like


    Of course Old English is a different language!

    I didn't have much difficulty understanding Shakespeare's or Chaucer's English. Beowulf ... well. :D
    But at that time, what is now Danish sounded much like Icelandic does today - and I wouldn't understand spoken Icelandic either.

    I always found languages, and how they evolve over time, interesting. So thanks for the link! :cool
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #113 on: March 28, 2015, 21:31 »
    what is now Danish sounded much like Icelandic does today - and I wouldn't understand spoken Icelandic either.

    Give it a week or so.  :P



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    Daniel is now flying to Iceland for his ultimate challenge: We've given him a week to learn a totally new language from scratch, and then go live on national television.

    Even the locals say that Icelandic is confusing and unpronounceable.  :S
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #114 on: March 28, 2015, 21:45 »
    Give it a week or so.  :P
    Ha! With subtitles, I have zero difficulty understanding Icelandic! :win
    Even without subtitles, I can understand part of it.

    Give me, well, maybe a year in Iceland, and I'll have learned the language.
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #115 on: April 22, 2019, 02:40 »
    A friend of mine (a piano player), who I used to perform with quite a bit, met a Spanish girl here who was working as an au pair. She didn't speak English, nor he Spanish. But they fell in love, and eventually got married. She would attend most of our concerts, and we all got along with her quite well, although her English improved only incrementally over the course of many months. But still, they had found their bond.

    I believe the strain did take a toll on her, and after a couple of years they decided to relocate to Spain. That was well over a decade ago, and as far as know they are both still living there, and I can only presume that they are still together. Knowing this guy as I had, it is easy for me to imagine that his Spanish—even after all these years—is probably no better than her English ever was. So if he loses her, I would expect to see him back here with little more than the clothes on his back, speaking some form of barely recognizable Spanglish.


    I was just casually perusing this thread and realized that it needs a bump.

    Reason being? The highlighted above has since come to pass, as predicted. :fp  :P
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #116 on: April 22, 2019, 07:26 »
    Been sent to Singapore for 9 months ... so figure that i may as well use the location and the fact that my partner couldn't come with me for that time (so I need something to fill in evenings and weekends!) to learn Mandarin. Start in a week or so ... will be interesting to see how far I get in the fluency department.
    Good luck with the gazillion characters! :lol

    On a related but separate note ...

    ... what is it with people who visit another country/culture and then spend all of their time doing their best not to experience it??

    ...

    I mean, if my boss is kind enough to pay for me to come here, why wouldn't I take advantage and get out and explore and try new experiences???
    Beats me. It's like going on holiday and only eating at McDonalds, only worse. :slow
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #117 on: April 22, 2019, 13:47 »
    Been sent to Singapore for 9 months ...

    Not making it to Singapore is still one of my great regrets. As I mentioned upthread, I had the opportunity to tour and perform in Korea, Okinawa and Japan for a couple of months in the mid '90s. The last leg of the tour was supposed to take us to Singapore for five days, but that all fell through at the last minute. Such a shame, considering that, IIRC, Singapore is a seven hour flight just from Japan, and one of the farthest points on the globe away from my home in the Northeast U.S., with the exception of maybe Australia. I'm just not sure when I'll find myself on that side of the planet again, but it's always been a point of curiosity to me since.

    Personally, I can't imagine not wanting to immerse myself in the culture of whatever country I happen to find myself in (or even different parts of the U.S., for that matter). Some people tend to circle the wagons and only reinforce the walls of their bubble, but I can only surmise that that stems from either insecurities or pure ignorance. I just don't get it.

    In days-gone-by, it would've been nearly impossible not to experience the local culture of wherever one found one's self. But with globalization, and the spread of western influence, it's all too easy to escape to the familiar for many travelers. It's a shame, really.
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #118 on: April 23, 2019, 12:41 »
    And I hear you about eating McDonalds. One of the guys told me (somewhat proudly) that he has 3 dishes that he eats at the restaurant ... and that is the sum extent of his dietary range ...   :S :S :S
    And I thought I was a picky eater! :o
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    Re: How many languages are you fluent in?
    « Reply #119 on: April 28, 2019, 03:16 »
    Totally random, but I'm curious...

    Had they lost their native accents? This is so interesting to me.

    Van Halen brothers 1996 on Dutch Veronica TV (RARE)


    Eddie and Alex Van Halen speaking their native language (Dutch)



    And here's an interesting perspective:
    Eddie Van Halen's First Day of School in America
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