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Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2016, 02:47 »
End of Year One

Only 6 selected riders scored in the dog days of the season, but one of them scored massively and is on more than half the teams:
MARECZKO Jakub   356pts   17 teams (A decent haul in Tour of Hainan, then total domination of the Tour of Taihu Lake)
ÖRKEN Ahmet   102pts   1 team (Won Turkish Tours of Mevlana and the Aegean, with several stage wins in each, then all sorts of podiums in China)
KOZHATAYEV Bakhtiyar   62pts   1 team (7th overall in Tour of Hainan)
SILVESTRE Fabio Andre Tomas   25pts   2 teams (stage points in Hainan)
FILOSI Iuri   5pts   1 team (Hainan)
GODOY Yonder Eduardo   3pts   1 team (The Tour of Costa Rica even gets a mention!)

Mareczko rises from virtually nowhere to being the 4th highest scorer of the selected riders (behind Roglic, Naesen and Latour), so his terrific autumn makes some impact on the tables:

Since Mid-October
1   Vladimir   361
2   AlPacino, Blues_in_the_Bottle, GPBlanco, HilltopFinisher, HugoKoblet, ItalianGigolo, Jakob747, Joelsim, Josedin, Karaev, Kazistuta, Madrazo, Multispeed, Nuvolablu, Ruudz0r, The_Fool_on_the_Hill   356
18   DJSprtsch   102
19   Scrooll07   62
20   Ludwigzgz   25
20   Mutschi   25
22   RoteLaterne   3
23   Alykaptan, Armchair_Cyclist, Asdfgh101, Comodoro, Del1962, Flo, GeraintTooFast, Leadbelly, MCMountain, Skidmark, Snccdcno   0
   CollectiveWisdom   356

To the end of Year One
Unsurprisingly, all the teams with Mareczko have moved up (except for Joelsim. who was already top) and all those who didn't have him lost places (except for DJSprtsch, who was already last.  Blues in the Bottle, Al Pacino and Josedin had the biggest jumps: Ludwigzgz and Skidmark (the stars of the 2014-16 game), along with Alykaptan, take the biggest tumbles.

1   Joelsim   3656
2   Multispeed   3492
3   Madrazo   3380
4   Leadbelly   3151
5   ItalianGigolo   3096
6   MCMountain   3064
7   Vladimir   3034
8   Nuvolablu   2992
9   Jakob747   2893
10   HilltopFinisher   2876
11   HugoKoblet   2867
12   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   2854
13   Skidmark   2776
14   GPBlanco   2775
15   Alykaptan   2713
16   Ruudz0r   2705
17   Karaev   2657
18   Kazistuta   2632
19   Ludwigzgz   2630
20   Blues_in_the_Bottle   2512
21   Snccdcno   2480
22   RoteLaterne   2273
23   Comodoro   2252
24   Del1962   2241
25   Mutschi   2236
26   Josedin   2161
27   Armchair_Cyclist   2106
28   AlPacino   2058
29   GeraintTooFast   2050
30   Asdfgh101   2012
31   Flo   1881
32   Scrooll07   1809
33   DJSprtsch   1208
   Collective Wisdom   2904

At the end of the first year, our most popular 20 picks have varied considerably in how much they have deserved our trust:
NAESEN Oliver   506
LATOUR Pierre   453
MARECZKO Jakub   449
KÜNG Stefan   324
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   297
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   249
EIKING Odd Christian   194
LOOIJ André   188
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   151
BOUDAT Thomas   121
POWER Robert   111
MOHORIC Matej   97
VAN DER POEL Mathieu   93
HNIK Karel   70
RUFFONI Nicola   64
FLAKEMORE Campbell   64
CHEVRIER Clément   50
MULLEN Ryan   44
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney   43
VERVAEKE Louis   30
(Sadly, two of these, Power and Flakemore, seem unlikely to make much further contribution to the game)

Some fairly high scorers were picked by at least some of us:
(Rider/points/teams)
ROGLIC Primoz   519   1
NAESEN Oliver   506   10
LATOUR Pierre   453   23
MARECZKO Jakub   449   17
KÜNG Stefan   324   21
SPRENGERS Thomas   308   3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   297   28
VALLEE Boris   277   5
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   249   24
TURGIS Anthony   247   1
DOULL Owain   235   2
MARINI Nicolas   228   1
BUCHMANN Emanuel   218   6
ÖRKEN Ahmet   203   1
EIKING Odd Christian   194   10
BOSWELL Ian   191   4
VLIEGEN Loïc   190   3
LOOIJ André   188   10
CAPIOT Amaury   187   1
MCLAY Daniel   186   4
OOMEN Sam   185   2

And some in the same range were overlooked by all of us:
TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres   465
BEVIN Patrick   397
CLAEYS Dimitri   389
CAMPENAERTS Victor   388
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   355
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   304
LAPORTE Christophe   261
GERTS Floris   241
BACKAERT Frederik   230
SAVITSKY Ivan   226
COMBAUD Romain   208
PETILLI Simone   208
NIKOLAEV Sergey   206
STENUIT Robin   204
KULYK Andriy   202
WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads   200
KAMP Alexander   195
OCKELOEN Jasper   183
(all of these now have exceeded 200 lifetime points: having missed them for this 2015-17, you can't have them for the 2016-18 edition)

The total of the best 18 picked riders: 5276
The total of the best 18 unpicked (but eligible) riders: 4862


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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #31 on: January 03, 2016, 14:15 »
    CQ have done their name changes at some stage in the year:  8 teams (Alykaptan, Blues in the Bottle, HilltopFinisher, ItalianGigolo, Joelsim, Karaev, Kazistuta, Madrazo) have had their scores under-reported by 121 because Lorrenzo Manzin's forename has one more r than heretofore, and a rediscovered accent in the name of Aurélien Paret-Peintre has been depriving DJSprsch of 18 points.

    Corrected standings:
    1   Joelsim   3777
    2   Madrazo   3501
    3   Multispeed   3492
    4   ItalianGigolo   3217
    5   Leadbelly   3151
    6   MCMountain   3064
    7   Vladimir   3034
    8   HilltopFinisher   2997
    9   Nuvolablu   2992
    10   Jakob747   2893
    11   HugoKoblet   2867
    12   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   2854
    13   Alykaptan   2834
    14   Karaev   2778
    15   Skidmark   2776
    16   GPBlanco   2775
    17   Kazistuta   2753
    18   Ruudz0r   2705
    19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   2633
    20   Ludwigzgz   2630
    21   Snccdcno   2480
    22   RoteLaterne   2273
    23   Comodoro   2252
    24   Del1962   2241
    25   Mutschi   2236
    26   Josedin   2161
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   2106
    28   AlPacino   2058
    29   GeraintTooFast   2050
    30   Asdfgh101   2012
    31   Flo   1881
    32   Scrooll07   1809
    33   DJSprtsch   1226
       CollectiveWisdom   2904

     
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #32 on: January 03, 2016, 21:58 »
    Happy days again  :D
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #33 on: January 03, 2016, 23:30 »
    Happy days again  :D

    The days of Primoz taking me to the top seem to be over, carrying too much dead weight. 

    Will be interesting to see how Contreres does for you.
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #34 on: January 04, 2016, 10:40 »
    The days of Primoz taking me to the top seem to be over, carrying too much dead weight. 

    Will be interesting to see how Contreres does for you.

    He's got a few big races lined up and EQS don't really have many climbers, so fingers crossed.
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #35 on: February 03, 2016, 00:08 »
    Year 2 month 1:
    Time to step forward

    There has not really been much expectation on our riders in year 1: this year we will see who is looking likely to be a really significant result earner.

    The real proof of that will not be seen in January, but who has used this month to lay down a marker?

    Leading Rider scores this month
    (Riders/points/teams)
    QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney   126   26
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   77   28
    KOSHEVOY Ilia   53   3
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   41   14
    ORAM James   31   1
    SPOKES Sam   30   1
    SARREAU Marc   28   3
    MARECZKO Jakub   20   17
    MANZIN Lorrenzo   16   8

    But we all missed out on:
    BEVIN Patrick   85
    OKUBAMARIAM ISSAK Tesfom   67
    LANE Patrick   55
    SMITH Dion   47
    TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres   45
    TORRES BARCELO Albert   44
    NAULEAU Bryan   38
    CLAEYS Dimitri   36
    PAGE Dylan   36
    VILLALOBOS SOLIS Roman   35
    HAMILTON Chris   35
    CHRISTIE Jason   34
    O'CONNOR Ben Alexander   31
    among others

    Teams this month
    1   Joelsim   318
    2   Karaev   313
    3   Alykaptan   308
    4   Ruudz0r   302
    5   Blues_in_the_Bottle   292
    6   Madrazo   285
    7   GPBlanco   279
    8   Josedin   276
    9   HugoKoblet   274
    10   ItalianGigolo   266
    10   Snccdcno   266
    12   Asdfgh101   256
    13   Skidmark   254
    14   HilltopFinisher   244
    15   Mutschi   242
    16   Multispeed   238
    16   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   238
    18   Vladimir   228
    19   Flo   217
    20   Leadbelly   213
    20   RoteLaterne   213
    22   MCMountain   208
    23   Kazistuta   159
    24   Jakob747   150
    25   Armchair_Cyclist   136
    26   Del1962   132
    27   DJSprtsch   131
    28   GeraintTooFast   128
    29   Scrooll07   126
    30   Nuvolablu   117
    31   AlPacino   114
    32   Comodoro   95
    33   Ludwigzgz   82
       CollectiveWisdom   269

    Standings to Jan 2016
    The leader, Joelsim, was January's top scorer, so extends his lead.  Not much other change except for Alykaptan's 4 place rise into the top 10.

    1   Joelsim   4095
    2   Madrazo   3786
    3   Multispeed   3730
    4   ItalianGigolo   3483
    5   Leadbelly   3364
    6   MCMountain   3272
    7   Vladimir   3262
    8   HilltopFinisher   3241
    9   Alykaptan   3142
    10   HugoKoblet   3141
    11   Nuvolablu   3109
    12   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   3092
    13   Karaev   3091
    14   GPBlanco   3054
    15   Jakob747   3043
    16   Skidmark   3030
    17   Ruudz0r   3007
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   2925
    19   Kazistuta   2912
    20   Snccdcno   2746
    21   Ludwigzgz   2712
    22   RoteLaterne   2486
    23   Mutschi   2478
    24   Josedin   2437
    25   Del1962   2373
    26   Comodoro   2347
    27   Asdfgh101   2268
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   2242
    29   GeraintTooFast   2178
    30   AlPacino   2172
    31   Flo   2098
    32   Scrooll07   1935
    33   DJSprtsch   1357
       CollectiveWisdom   3173
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #36 on: March 03, 2016, 23:44 »
    Year 2, Month 2

    If this going to be any selected rider's big breakthrough year, none of them showed it in February: the scores are less impressive than those riders a year behind in their development that are in the 2016-18 game.  Here are the best of those we chose just over a year ago:
    LATOUR Pierre   66pts   23 teams (7th in Bessege GC, 10th in Laigueglia)
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   61   28 (4th in his national TT, and one stage in Langkawi (GC points in March update))
    ROGLIC Primoz   55   1 (5th in Algarve GC)
    WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   54   6 (5th in K-B-K)
    CICCONE Giulio   50   2 (5th in Estruchi, 12th in Laigueglia)
    ANDREETTA Simone   49   5 (8th in Lugano, and some Mediteraneenne pts)
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   34   6 (12th in Oman GC)
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   30   14 (stage points in Tour La Provence)
    WACKERMANN Luca   30   3 (13th in Dubai GC)
    RAMIREZ CHACON Brayan Stiven   30   1 (2nd in his national TT)

    The popularity of the months top two scorers mean that most team scores for February are closely grouped:
    1   Karaev   285
    2   GeraintTooFast   270
    3   Madrazo   260
    4   Joelsim   259
    5   HugoKoblet   256
    6   GPBlanco   245
    7   Vladimir   242
    8   Multispeed   240
    8   Kazistuta   240
    10   ItalianGigolo   226
    11   MCMountain   224
    12   Jakob747   211
    13   Asdfgh101   205
    14   Snccdcno   201
    15   Mutschi   200
    16   Leadbelly   194
    17   Skidmark   193
    18   RoteLaterne   165
    19   Alykaptan   162
    19   AlPacino   162
    21   Nuvolablu   158
    22   HilltopFinisher   149
    22   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   149
    24   Josedin   147
    25   Ludwigzgz   146
    26   Flo   131
    27   Blues_in_the_Bottle   123
    28   Ruudz0r   118
    28   Comodoro   118
    30   Del1962   114
    31   Scrooll07   102
    32   Armchair_Cyclist   35
    33   DJSprtsch   16
       CollectiveWisdom   202


    Latour, Lopez, Wisnioski and Andreeta give Karaev the biggest jump of th month, as well as the top monthly score, but even that is a modest 3 places to 10th, Vladimir and Hugo Koblet also rising within the top ten.
    1   Joelsim   4354
    2   Madrazo   4046
    3   Multispeed   3970
    4   ItalianGigolo   3709
    5   Leadbelly   3558
    6   Vladimir   3504
    7   MCMountain   3496
    8   HugoKoblet   3397
    9   HilltopFinisher   3390
    10   Karaev   3376
    11   Alykaptan   3304
    12   GPBlanco   3299
    13   Nuvolablu   3267
    14   Jakob747   3254
    15   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   3241
    16   Skidmark   3223
    17   Kazistuta   3152
    18   Ruudz0r   3125
    19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   3048
    20   Snccdcno   2947
    21   Ludwigzgz   2858
    22   Mutschi   2678
    23   RoteLaterne   2651
    24   Josedin   2584
    25   Del1962   2487
    26   Asdfgh101   2473
    27   Comodoro   2465
    28   GeraintTooFast   2448
    29   AlPacino   2334
    30   Armchair_Cyclist   2277
    31   Flo   2229
    32   Scrooll07   2037
    33   DJSprtsch   1373
       CollectiveWisdom   337

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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #37 on: April 08, 2016, 15:27 »
    Year 2 Month 3 (to 3rd April)

    Rather strangely, the year 2 riders have higher points than the Year 3 riders in the 2014-16 game update that I did yesterday.  No-one knew enough about Gaviria, Moscon, Lopez, Oomen or Wisniowski in January 2014 to have selected them...

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   169pts   14 teams (6th in Gent-Wevelgem, stage win in Tirreno-Adriatico, 10th in Dwaars door Vlaanderen)
    LATOUR Pierre   140   23  (2nd in Criterium Int)
    WACKERMANN Luca   129   3 (won no less than 3 2.2 tours in Algeria in the month)
    MOSCON Gianni   123   3 (3rd in    Settimana Coppi e Bartali, 8th in Nokere)
    JARAMILLO DIEZ Daniel Alexander   120   1 (2nd in Langkawi, so mainly earned in February)
    PEDERSEN Mads   111   2 (won Gent-Wevelgem U23, and top ten in De Panne GC)
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   105   28 (3rd in Langkawi, but points logged in March)
    OOMEN Sam   103   2 (3rd in Crit Int)
    WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   95   6 (3rd in Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen)

    Scores this month
    A truly outstanding performance by Madrazo, with a score 225 higher than second place.  The only 1000+ monthly scores in the first edition came in April of Year 2, so he has beaten that landmark.
    1   Madrazo   1013 (Gaviria, Latour, Wackermann, Moscon and Lopez)
    2   GPBlanco   788 (Gaviria, Latour, Lopez and Wisniowski)
    3   HugoKoblet   776 (same main scorers as GPBlanco)
    4   Joelsim   763 (as GPB and Hugo, but without Wisniowski)
    5   Nuvolablu   732 (Latour, Moscon and Lopez)
    6   Asdfgh101   725
    7   Karaev   704
    8   Leadbelly   684
    9   Jakob747   681
    10   Multispeed   677
    11   Ruudz0r   664
    12   ItalianGigolo   660
    13   GeraintTooFast   652
    14   Kazistuta   628
    15   Skidmark   621
    16   MCMountain   602
    17   Vladimir   592
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   585
    19   Josedin   551
    20   HilltopFinisher   541
    21   Snccdcno   532
    22   RoteLaterne   488
    23   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   483
    24   Ludwigzgz   460
    25   AlPacino   453
    26   Mutschi   426
    27   Comodoro   424 (only team to include Jaramillo)
    28   Flo   411
    29   Alykaptan   407
    30   Del1962   292
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   242
    32   Scrooll07   150
    33   DJSprtsch   141
       CollectiveWisdom   753

    Standings
    That huge score brings Madrazo tight onto Search's heels, but the highest placed rider to have moved is Hugo Koblet, 6th from 8th. A three place rise brings GPBlanco into the top ten (replacing Hilltop Finisher), and a four place jump makes Asdfgh101 the top vaulter of the month,while Alykaptan goes 7 places in the wrong direction.
    1   Joelsim   5117
    2   Madrazo   5059
    3   Multispeed   4647
    4   ItalianGigolo   4369
    5   Leadbelly   4242
    6   HugoKoblet   4173
    7   MCMountain   4098
    8   Vladimir   4096
    9   GPBlanco   4087
    10   Karaev   4080
    11   Nuvolablu   3999
    12   Jakob747   3935
    13   HilltopFinisher   3931
    14   Skidmark   3844
    15   Ruudz0r   3789
    16   Kazistuta   3780
    17   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   3724
    18   Alykaptan   3711
    19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   3633
    20   Snccdcno   3479
    21   Ludwigzgz   3318
    22   Asdfgh101   3198
    23   RoteLaterne   3139
    24   Josedin   3135
    25   Mutschi   3104
    26   GeraintTooFast   3100
    27   Comodoro   2889
    28   AlPacino   2787
    29   Del1962   2779
    30   Flo   2640
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   2519
    32   Scrooll07   2187
    33   DJSprtsch   1514
       CollectiveWisdom   4128
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #38 on: April 08, 2016, 16:28 »
    In the first 3 months of 2016, the best ten riders that at least one of us picked:
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 243
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando 240
    LATOUR Pierre 206
    WACKERMANN Luca 159
    WISNIOWSKI Lukasz 154
    QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney 141
    JARAMILLO DIEZ Daniel Alexander 135
    MOSCON Gianni 134
    PEDERSEN Mads 111
    MARECZKO Jakub 110

    and the best ten over that time that none of us picked are:
    HUCKER Robbie 193
    POLITT Nils 172
    CALMEJANE Lilian 165
    OKUBAMARIAM ISSAK Tesfom 149
    CLAEYS Dimitri 138
    BEVIN Patrick 128
    AVILA VANEGAS Edwin Alcibiades 122
    HAMILTON Chris 116
    SMITH Dion 109
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert 106


    The current make-up of the "Collective Ignorance" team over a year and a quarter is:
    TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres 556
    CLAEYS Dimitri 527
    BEVIN Patrick 525
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar 401
    CAMPENAERTS Victor 393
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh 392
    GERTS Floris 339
    SMITH Dion 287
    LAPORTE Christophe 279
    SAVITSKY Ivan 263
    POLITT Nils 260
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert 250
    BACKAERT Frederik 243
    WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads 237
    DUCHESNE Antoine 236
    COMBAUD Romain 236
    PETILLI Simone 235
    CALMEJANE Lilian 217
    for a total score of 5876

    But the best 18 that we did select have the following scores in the duration of the game:
    LATOUR Pierre 659
    ROGLIC Primoz 606
    MARECZKO Jakub 559
    NAESEN Oliver 550
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 540
    KÜNG Stefan 401
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando 391
    TURGIS Anthony 332
    SPRENGERS Thomas 314
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian 312
    OOMEN Sam 293
    BUCHMANN Emanuel 287
    PEDERSEN Mads 286
    JARAMILLO DIEZ Daniel Alexander 280
    VALLEE Boris 277
    VLIEGEN Loïc 268
    CAPIOT Amaury 257
    MOSCON Gianni 254
    for a total of 6866
    (although 4 of them were unique picks)
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #39 on: May 04, 2016, 22:11 »
    Year 2 Month 4 and including 1st May

    In the game a year older than this, Julian Alaphillippe was getting second place in two classics during April of Year 2, and Simon Yates was top 5 in Pais Vasco.  This time around, such emergence has not yet happened.  But this is what the main scorers in our game this month did manage:

    MCLAY Daniel   166points    4 teams (1st in Denain, 10th in Scheldeprijs)
    BOUDAT Thomas   110   16 (mainly from 2nd in Denain)
    LATOUR Pierre   104   23 (14th Pais Vasco, 19th Flecche, 12th Romandie)
    VLIEGEN Loïc   88   3 (9th in Amstel Gold, 10th in Brabantse Pijl)
    TURGIS Anthony   79   1 (3rd in Yorkshire GC)
    VENTURINI Clément   79   1  (6th in both Denain and Roue Tourangelle)
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   62   6 (8th in Giro del Trentino)
    MANZIN Lorrenzo   62   8  (5th in Denain)
    BROECKX Stig   62   2 (7th in Turkey)
    VERVAEKE Louis   61   23 (11th in Pais Vasco)

    Points earned
    1   Madrazo   652 (Boudat, Latour, Vliegen, Manzin, Vervaeke)
    2   Kazistuta   648(Mclay, Boudat, Latour, Manzin, Vervaeke, but fewer lower scorers)
    3   Nuvolablu   539 (Boudat, Latour, Turgis, Vervaeke)
    4   ItalianGigolo   535  (Boudat, Latour, Manzin, Vervaeke)
    5   Leadbelly   506 (Boudat, Latour, Vliegen, Vervaeke)
    6   Joelsim   500
    7   Multispeed   484
    8   Alykaptan   462 (has McLay)
    8   Jakob747   462 (has McLay)
    10   Skidmark   438
    11   HugoKoblet   422
    12   HilltopFinisher   416
    13   Snccdcno   415
    14   Blues_in_the_Bottle   387
    15   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   374
    16   Vladimir   361
    17   MCMountain   344
    18   RoteLaterne   326
    19   Asdfgh101   322
    20   Mutschi   314
    21   Ludwigzgz   312
    22   Comodoro   308 (has McLay)
    22   Karaev   308
    24   GPBlanco   295
    25   Ruudz0r   286
    26   Josedin   270
    27   Flo   263
    27   GeraintTooFast   263
    29   Del1962   261
    30   Scrooll07   249
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   246
    32   AlPacino   190
    33   DJSprtsch   137
       CollectiveWisdom   531

    Standings

    Madrazo was already 3rd at the end of year one, since when his monthly positions have been 6th, 3rd, 1st and now 1st again: it is not much surprise he has taken the lead.  He and Joelsim are opening an increasing gap on the chasers, but if this were a grand tour, we are only on about Monday of week 2. Nuvolablu and Kazistuta move into the top ten with jumps of 4 and 6 places respectively.

    1   Madrazo   5711
    2   Joelsim   5617
    3   Multispeed   5131
    4   ItalianGigolo   4904
    5   Leadbelly   4748
    6   HugoKoblet   4595
    7   Nuvolablu   4538
    8   Vladimir   4457
    9   MCMountain   4442
    10   Kazistuta   4428
    11   Jakob747   4397
    12   Karaev   4388
    13   GPBlanco   4382
    14   HilltopFinisher   4347
    15   Skidmark   4282
    16   Alykaptan   4173
    17   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   4098
    18   Ruudz0r   4075
    19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   4020
    20   Snccdcno   3894
    21   Ludwigzgz   3630
    22   Asdfgh101   3520
    23   RoteLaterne   3465
    24   Mutschi   3418
    25   Josedin   3405
    26   GeraintTooFast   3363
    27   Comodoro   3197
    28   Del1962   3040
    29   AlPacino   2977
    30   Flo   2903
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   2765
    32   Scrooll07   2436
    33   DJSprtsch   1651
       CollectiveWisdom   4582
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #40 on: May 31, 2016, 12:46 »
    Year 2 Month 5 To 29th May, coz I have free time this week.

    Some significant Grand Tour points: some of our riders are indeed emerging.

    MCLAY Daniel   170 points    4 teams (Wins GP de la Somme, 5th in Picardie GC, three 2nds in stages)
    ROGLIC Primoz   125   1 (Win and a 2nd in Giro time trials for MC Mountain)
    FOLIFOROV Alexander   108   4  (Stage win and other Giro points)
    WACKERMANN Luca   103   3 (Stage win in Azerbaijan  and GC 6th in Volta Cova da Beira)
    PARRA BUSTAMENTE Heiner Rodrigo   99   1  (GC top 10s in Vuelta a Asturias and  Volta Cova da Beira for Mutschi)
    EIKING Odd Christian   94   10 (4th in Tour of Norway)
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   78   24  (GC 17th in Giro)
    CICCONE Giulio   70   2 (Giro Stage win for Geraint and Jakob747)
    ARSLANOV Ildar   50   1  (5th in Azerbaijan GC)
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   45   9 (Tour of California)
    VENTURINI Clément   44   1 (Boucles de l'Aulnes)
    HNIK Karel   41   14 (4th in Velothon Wales)
    but we missed 100 point plus riders in MOAZEMI GOUDARZI Arvin, STEPNIAK Grzegorz, BRANDAO Joni Silva, MEURISSE Xandro.


    Points this month
    1   Jakob747   445 (McLay, Eiking and Ciccone)
    2   MCMountain   413 (Roglic, Eiking, Henao)
    3   Leadbelly   404 (Foliforov, Eiking, Henao, Geoghegan Hart)
    4   Comodoro   388 (McLay, Hnik)
    5   Alykaptan   383 (McLay, Foliforov, Hnik)
    6   Kazistuta   362
    7   Flo   336
    8   Joelsim   312
    9   Multispeed   309
    10   ItalianGigolo   287
    11   Mutschi   283
    12   Asdfgh101   268
    13   HugoKoblet   264
    14   Nuvolablu   247
    14   Vladimir   247
    16   GeraintTooFast   245
    17   Madrazo   244
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   228
    19   Snccdcno   224
    20   Ruudz0r   213
    21   Ludwigzgz   211
    22   Josedin   201
    23   RoteLaterne   187
    24   Del1962   185
    25   Blues_in_the_Bottle   182
    26   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   181
    27   Skidmark   179
    28   HilltopFinisher   175
    29   GPBlanco   172
    30   AlPacino   145
    31   DJSprtsch   100
    32   Scrooll07   91
    33   Karaev   83
       CollectiveWisdom   380

    Standings
    The top two have a good margin over the rest, but are very close to each other.  They have 11 riders in common: the game for the next 18 months might depend on the other 7 in each team.
    No position changes in the top 6, but behind them MCMountain, Jakob and Kazistuta are all moving in the right direction, and a little further down, Alykaptan has the best rise.

    1   Madrazo   5955
    2   Joelsim   5929
    3   Multispeed   5440
    4   ItalianGigolo   5191
    5   Leadbelly   5152
    6   HugoKoblet   4859
    7   MCMountain   4855
    8   Jakob747   4842
    9   Kazistuta   4790
    10   Nuvolablu   4785
    11   Vladimir   4704
    12   Alykaptan   4556
    13   GPBlanco   4554
    14   HilltopFinisher   4522
    15   Karaev   4471
    16   Skidmark   4461
    17   Ruudz0r   4288
    18   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   4279
    19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   4202
    20   Snccdcno   4118
    21   Ludwigzgz   3841
    22   Asdfgh101   3788
    23   Mutschi   3701
    24   RoteLaterne   3652
    25   GeraintTooFast   3608
    26   Josedin   3606
    27   Comodoro   3585
    28   Flo   3239
    29   Del1962   3225
    30   AlPacino   3122
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   2993
    32   Scrooll07   2527
    33   DJSprtsch   1751
       CollectiveWisdom   4875


    The current Collective Ignorance squad would be:

    TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres   588
    CLAEYS Dimitri   557
    BEVIN Patrick   525
    SMITH Dion   419
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   406
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   398
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   397
    BRANDAO Joni Silva   385   
    GERTS Floris   344   
    LAPORTE Christophe   315   
    VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter   306   
    MOAZEMI GOUDARZI Arvin   294   
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert   293   
    SAVITSKY Ivan   292   
    BACKAERT Frederik   288   
    PETILLI Simone   284   
    COMBAUD Romain   280   
    MEURISSE Xandro   272
    For a total of 6643

    And the best possible team would be:
    LATOUR Pierre   763   23 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   731   1 team
    MARECZKO Jakub   617   17 teams
    NAESEN Oliver   597   10 teams
    TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres   588   no team
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   560   28  teams
    CLAEYS Dimitri   557   no team
    MCLAY Daniel   531   4 teams
    BEVIN Patrick   525   no team
    TURGIS Anthony   443   1 team
    KÜNG Stefan   431   21 teams
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   419   24 teams
    SMITH Dion   419   no team
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   406   no team
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   398   no team
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   397   no team
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   391   14 teams
    BRANDAO Joni Silva   385   no team

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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #41 on: June 23, 2016, 23:00 »
    Year 2, Month 6 but a bit early, 30 May to 19 June (I'll be busy next week setting up the TdF game, and for 3 weeks after it running that)


    Rider points this "month"
    1 rider definitely dominates, and he is the most popular pick of the lot, only 5 of us don't have him.
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   360 points   28 teams (Overall GC win in Tour de Suisse, with 100 sundry stage and classification points from the same race)
    TURGIS Anthony   127   1 (stage win and GC 4th in Tour de Luxembourg for Nuvolablu)
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   105   2 (Stage win and GC 2nd in Route du Sud for Asdfgh101 and Blues in the Bottle)
    BOUDAT Thomas   81   16 (3rd in GC and two stage podiums in Boucles de la Mayenne)
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   62   9  (2nd in both Course de la Paix and Tour des Pays de Savoie)
    MANNION Gavin   45   1 (7th and a stage podium in Korea )

    Points gained
    1   Nuvolablu   780 (Lopez, Turgis, Boudat, Geoghegan Hart)
    2   Asdfgh101   749 (Lopez, Soler, Boudat, Geoghegan Hart)
    3   Blues_in_the_Bottle   718 (Lopez, Soler, Boudat, Geoghegan Hart and Mannion)
    4   MCMountain   682  (Lopez, Boudat, Geoghegan Hart)
    5   Multispeed   661 (Lopez, Boudat, Geoghegan Hart)
    6   HilltopFinisher   660 (Lopez, Boudat, Geoghegan Hart)
    7   Madrazo   627
    8   Skidmark   622
    9   Kazistuta   614
    10   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   611
    11   Ruudz0r   606
    12   Leadbelly   590
    13   HugoKoblet   584
    13   Snccdcno   584
    15   GPBlanco   537
    16   Vladimir   522
    17   Jakob747   519
    18   Karaev   518
    18   Flo   518
    20   Joelsim   516
    21   AlPacino   515
    22   Ludwigzgz   504
    23   RoteLaterne   499
    24   Alykaptan   492
    25   GeraintTooFast   469
    26   Comodoro   464
    27   Josedin   452
    28   Mutschi   446
    29   ItalianGigolo   206
    30   Armchair_Cyclist   186
    31   Scrooll07   165
    32   Del1962   140
    33   DJSprtsch   91
       CollectiveWisdom   759

    Standings
    Novulablu moves up 5 places from 10th to 5th: Italian Gigolo is the only one of the non-Lopez teams that was not in a terminally dreadful position before Tour de Suisse, so is the biggest victim.  Madrazo increases his lead.
    1   Madrazo   6582
    2   Joelsim   6445
    3   Multispeed   6101
    4   Leadbelly   5742
    5   Nuvolablu   5565
    6   MCMountain   5537
    7   HugoKoblet   5443
    8   Kazistuta   5404
    9   ItalianGigolo   5397
    10   Jakob747   5361
    11   Vladimir   5226
    12   HilltopFinisher   5182
    13   GPBlanco   5091
    14   Skidmark   5083
    15   Alykaptan   5048
    16   Karaev   4989
    17   Blues_in_the_Bottle   4920
    18   Ruudz0r   4894
    19   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   4890
    20   Snccdcno   4702
    21   Asdfgh101   4537
    22   Ludwigzgz   4345
    23   RoteLaterne   4151
    24   Mutschi   4147
    25   GeraintTooFast   4077
    26   Josedin   4058
    27   Comodoro   4049
    28   Flo   3757
    29   AlPacino   3637
    30   Del1962   3365
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   3179
    32   Scrooll07   2692
    33   DJSprtsch   1842
       CollectiveWisdom   5527
          Collective Ignorance 6815


    This has been a short month: next update likely to be to the end of July, but keep an eye out for the Tour de France game coming soon.


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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #42 on: August 14, 2016, 14:06 »
    Year 1 month 7 and through until 7th August, so given that I took the June results early, this is actually a 7 week month.

    This month and a bit...

    Fewer good scorers in this game than among those in the game a year behind them: not yet good enough for much Tour impact, too good for the minor distractions in July?

    BUCHMANN Emanuel   145pts    6 teams (21st in the Tour de France, 14th in Rio, and 4th in Rad am Ring, a race that had totally passed below my radar)
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   143   14 (2 stage wins and a 2nd in Poland, with three days in yellow and 7th in Hallle Ingooigem)
    WARBASSE Larry   96   2 (7th in Tour of Poland GC for Flo and Scrool07)
    MARECZKO Jakub   95   17 (3 stage wins and a 2nd in Qinghai Lake)
    MOSCON Gianni   84   3 (4th (TT) and 5th (RR) in Nat Champs for Jakob747, Madrazo, Nuvolablu))
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   79   9 (6th in Nat Champs, 12th in Utah GC)
    ZURLO Federico   69   2 (Stage win and GC 10th in Qinghai Lake for Multispeed and Ruudz0r)
    MCLAY Daniel   64   4 (one 3rd, and 3 other stage top 10s, in the Tour de France for Alykaptan, Comodoro, Jakob747, Kazistuta)
    ROGLIC Primoz   62   1 (10th and 26th in Rio, 5th in Nat Champs, a stage podium and some GC points in Poland for MC<ountain)
    MARINI Nicolas   50   1 (a first, a second and a third in Qinghai stages for Hilltop Finisher)

    but we all missed:
    BETTIOL Alberto   207
    VINHAS Rui Pedro Carvalho   155
    WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads   146
    KAMP Alexander   137
    GIDICH Yevgeniy   137
    VAN AERT Wout   119
    GOGL Michael   114
    GARCIA DE MATEOS RUBIO Vicente   111
    CECCHIN Alberto   109
    TRATNIK Jan   106


    1   Joelsim   530 (Buchmann, Gaviria and Mareczko)
    2   Jakob747   482 (Gaviria, Mareczko, Moscon, McLay)
    3   AlPacino   469(Buchmann, Mareczko and Geoghegan Hart)
    4   Madrazo   446 (Gaviria, Mareczko, Moscon, McLay)
    5   Karaev   397
    6   Asdfgh101   395
    7   ItalianGigolo   392
    8   HugoKoblet   390
    9   Kazistuta   380
    10   Ruudz0r   379
    11   Nuvolablu   375
    12   Vladimir   369
    12   GPBlanco   369
    14   Josedin   368
    15   Blues_in_the_Bottle   345
    16   Del1962   342
    17   Scrooll07   327
    18   Multispeed   319
    19   GeraintTooFast   317
    20   Skidmark   313
    21   HilltopFinisher   296
    22   Flo   273
    23   Comodoro   260
    24   Mutschi   257
    25   Alykaptan   225
    26   Leadbelly   209
    27   MCMountain   196
    28   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   189
    29   Armchair_Cyclist   173
    30   Snccdcno   157
    31   RoteLaterne   107
    32   Ludwigzgz   80
    33   DJSprtsch   59
       CollectiveWisdom   519

    Standings
    The top two look fairly well established and both scored well this month, with large points gaps either side of third place.  You'd have to go down to 6th to find the first change in position, where monthly runner-up has risen from 10th, while MCMountain made exactly the opposite journey.  Josedin, despite being a distinctly average 14th in the monthly score, has the equal biggest (4 place) rise

    1   Madrazo   7028
    2   Joelsim   6975
    3   Multispeed   6420
    4   Leadbelly   5951
    5   Nuvolablu   5940
    6   Jakob747   5843
    7   HugoKoblet   5833
    8   ItalianGigolo   5789
    9   Kazistuta   5784
    10   MCMountain   5733
    11   Vladimir   5595
    12   HilltopFinisher   5478
    13   GPBlanco   5460
    14   Skidmark   5396
    15   Karaev   5386
    16   Ruudz0r   5273
    16   Alykaptan   5273
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   5265
    19   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   5079
    20   Asdfgh101   4932
    21   Snccdcno   4859
    22   Josedin   4426
    23   Ludwigzgz   4425
    24   Mutschi   4404
    25   GeraintTooFast   4394
    26   Comodoro   4309
    27   RoteLaterne   4258
    28   AlPacino   4106
    29   Flo   4030
    30   Del1962   3707
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   3352
    32   Scrooll07   3019
    33   DJSprtsch   1901
       CollectiveWisdom   5904
       Collective Ignorance  6940

    Best possible selection:
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   920pts   28 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   823   1   
    LATOUR Pierre   809   23   
    MARECZKO Jakub   712   17   
    NAESEN Oliver   633   10   
    MCLAY Daniel   623   4   
    TURGIS Anthony   570   1   
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   567   14   
    BEVIN Patrick   545   0   
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   514   6   
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   484   0   
    SMITH Dion   480   0   
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   468   0   
    KÜNG Stefan   466   21   
    BRANDAO Joni Silva   466   0   
    WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads   429   0   
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   420   0   
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   419   24   
    That selection would have earned 10348 pts
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #43 on: January 01, 2017, 22:42 »
    This thread also suffered from my inertia through the autumn, but I did finally stir myself to get some updates up in CN, but that was during Veloroom's recent downtime.

    Here is the catch-up (part 1):


    I had got up to 7th August, so here is Year 2, Month 8, up to 4th September

    MOSCON Gianni   248 pts   3 teams (stage and overall victories in Arctic Tour for Jakob747, Madrazo, Nuvolablu)
    NAESEN Oliver   225   10 (Bretagne Ouest France classic win)
    OOMEN Sam   166   2 (stage & overall in Tour de l'Ain, 10th in Poitou Charentes for Leadbelly and MCMountain)
    ROGLIC Primoz   107   1 (10th in Olypic TT, 4th in Poitou Charentes for MCMountain)
    LATOUR Pierre   83   23 (3rd in Tour de l'Ain)
    EIKING Odd Christian   77   10
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   73   24
    VLIEGEN Loïc   69   3
    HNIK Karel   66   14
    CAPIOT Amaury   65   1

    1   Leadbelly   772 (Naesen, Oomen, Latour, Eiking, Henao, Vliegen, Capiot)
    2   Madrazo   719 (Moscon, Naesen, Latour, Henao, Vliegen)
    3   Jakob747   644 (Moscon, Naesen, Eiking, Henao)
    4   ItalianGigolo   541 (Naesen, Latour, Eiking, Henao, Hnik)
    5   Multispeed   539 (Naesen, Latour, Eiking, Henao, Hnik)
    6   MCMountain   526 (Oomen, Roglic, Latour, Eiking, Henao)
    7   Joelsim   500
    8   Skidmark   486
    9   Nuvolablu   485
    10   Vladimir   446

    Standings at 4th Sept
    1   Madrazo   7747
    2   Joelsim   7475
    3   Multispeed   6959
    4   Leadbelly   6723
    5   Jakob747   6487
    6   Nuvolablu   6425
    7   ItalianGigolo   6330
    8   MCMountain   6259
    9   HugoKoblet   6101
    10   Vladimir   6041
    11   Kazistuta   6036
    12   Skidmark   5882
    13   Alykaptan   5697
    14   HilltopFinisher   5676
    15   GPBlanco   5653
    16   Karaev   5531
    17   Ruudz0r   5418
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   5368
    19   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   5322
    20   Asdfgh101   5112
    21   Snccdcno   5104
    22   Ludwigzgz   4655
    23   Mutschi   4640
    24   GeraintTooFast   4634
    25   RoteLaterne   4584
    26   Josedin   4505
    27   Comodoro   4473
    28   Flo   4214
    29   AlPacino   4179
    30   Del1962   4023
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   3750
    32   Scrooll07   3074
    33   DJSprtsch   2003
       CollectiveWisdom   6226
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #44 on: January 01, 2017, 22:44 »
    September, and up to mid October, Year 2
    from 5th September to the end of the World Championships (16th October)

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   417pts   14 teams (won Paris-Tours and Impanis Van Petegem, 2nd in    Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen and Gran Piemonte)
    NAESEN Oliver   291   10 (2nd in Eneco Tour & Eurometropole, and several smaller hauls)
    LATOUR Pierre   206   23 (Stage win and top 30 in Vuelta, top 10 in Lombardia)
    RUFFONI Nicola   193   16 (1st in Brono Beghelli, 2nd in Coppa Bernocchi)
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   140   28 (win Milan-Torino)
    CAPIOT Amaury   138   1 (4th in Eurometropole, 5th in Binche-Chimay, 6th in Putte Kapellen, 7th in Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen for Leadbelly)
    MULLEN Ryan   96   11  (5th in World champ TT)
    MOSCON Gianni   88   3
    MARINI Nicolas   87   1
    KÜNG Stefan   83   21

    When popular riders get big scores, there are many high scoring teams:
    1   Joelsim   1501  (Gaviria, Naesen, Latour, Ruffoni, Lopez, Kung)
    2   Skidmark   1495 (Gaviria, Naesen, Latour, Ruffoni, Lopez, Mullen, Kung)
    3   Madrazo   1358 (Gaviria, Naesen, Latour, Lopez)
    4   ItalianGigolo   1341 (Gaviria, Naesen, Latour, Ruffoni)
    5   HugoKoblet   1295 (Gaviria,Latour, Ruffoni, Lopez, Mullen, Kung)
    6   Alykaptan   1142
    7   Kazistuta   1127
    8   Jakob747   1123
    9   Karaev   1110
    10   Leadbelly   1100
    11   GeraintTooFast   1066
    12   Asdfgh101   1039

    Standings on 16th October

    1   Madrazo   9105
    2   Joelsim   8976
    3   Leadbelly   7823
    4   Multispeed   7788
    5   ItalianGigolo   7671
    6   Jakob747   7610
    7   HugoKoblet   7396
    8   Skidmark   7377
    9   Nuvolablu   7313
    10   Kazistuta   7163
    11   MCMountain   6941
    12   Vladimir   6871
    13   Alykaptan   6839
    14   Karaev   6641
    15   GPBlanco   6632
    16   HilltopFinisher   6413
    17   Ruudz0r   6378
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   6203
    19   Asdfgh101   6151
    20   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   5959
    21   Snccdcno   5809
    22   GeraintTooFast   5700
    23   Josedin   5387
    24   RoteLaterne   5263
    25   Ludwigzgz   5207
    26   Mutschi   5106
    27   Comodoro   4955
    28   AlPacino   4899
    29   Del1962   4642
    30   Flo   4556
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   4320
    32   Scrooll07   3193
    33   DJSprtsch   2093
       CollectiveWisdom   7559
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #45 on: January 01, 2017, 22:47 »
    To end of Year 2  (except for the December races in Costa Rica)
    MOHORIC Matej   125pts    15 teams (stage win and 3rd on GC in Hainan)
    MARECZKO Jakub   101   17 (3 stage wins and 2 podiums in Taihu lake)
    GODOY Yonder Eduardo   90   1 (2nd on GC at Taihu Lake for Rote Laterne)
    POWER Robert   72   24 (3rd in Japan Cup)

    1   HugoKoblet   361
    2   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   356
    3   Vladimir   343
    4   HilltopFinisher   332
    5   Madrazo   320
    5   Karaev   320
    7   Nuvolablu   303
    8   AlPacino   284
    9   Skidmark   272
    9   Del1962   272

    So as we embark on the third year, it looks like it has become a two horse race between Madrazo and Joelsim.
    1   Madrazo   9425
    2   Joelsim   9171
    3   Multispeed   7988
    4   Leadbelly   7917
    5   ItalianGigolo   7866
    6   Jakob747   7783
    7   HugoKoblet   7757
    8   Skidmark   7649
    9   Nuvolablu   7616
    10   Kazistuta   7389
    11   Vladimir   7214
    12   MCMountain   7088
    13   Karaev   6961
    14   Alykaptan   6938
    15   GPBlanco   6760
    16   HilltopFinisher   6745
    17   Ruudz0r   6578
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   6451
    19   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   6315
    20   Asdfgh101   6173
    21   Snccdcno   5973
    22   GeraintTooFast   5772
    23   Josedin   5510
    24   RoteLaterne   5488
    25   Ludwigzgz   5424
    26   Mutschi   5200
    27   AlPacino   5183
    28   Comodoro   5027
    29   Del1962   4914
    30   Flo   4739
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   4575
    32   Scrooll07   3232
    33   DJSprtsch   2187
       CollectiveWisdom   7843
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #46 on: January 04, 2017, 19:02 »
    Total scores in Year 2 were 145% of those in Year 1 (slightly higher than in the 2014-16 game), and the table of scores from Year 2 alone would be:

    1   Madrazo   5924
    2   Joelsim   5394
    3   Jakob747   4890
    3   HugoKoblet   4890
    5   Skidmark   4873
    6   Leadbelly   4766
    7   ItalianGigolo   4649
    8   Kazistuta   4636
    9   Nuvolablu   4624
    10   Multispeed   4496
    11   Karaev   4183
    12   Vladimir   4180
    13   Asdfgh101   4161
    14   Alykaptan   4104
    15   MCMountain   4024
    16   GPBlanco   3985
    17   Ruudz0r   3873
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   3818
    19   HilltopFinisher   3748
    20   GeraintTooFast   3722
    21   Snccdcno   3493
    22   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   3461
    23   Josedin   3349
    24   RoteLaterne   3215
    25   AlPacino   3125
    26   Mutschi   2964
    27   Flo   2858
    28   Ludwigzgz   2794
    29   Comodoro   2775
    30   Del1962   2673
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   2469
    32   Scrooll07   1423
    33   DJSprtsch   961
       CollectiveWisdom   4939

    Over the two years thus far, the best possible team is:
    NAESEN Oliver   1149   10   
    LATOUR Pierre   1098   23   
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   1060   28   
    ROGLIC Primoz   1005   1   
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   984   14   
    MARECZKO Jakub   855   17   
    CLAEYS Dimitri   814   0   
    TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres   805   0   
    MOSCON Gianni   742   3   
    MCLAY Daniel   703   4   
    BETTIOL Alberto   661   0   
    SMITH Dion   641   0   
    BEVIN Patrick   600   0   
    TURGIS Anthony   596   1   
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   573   0   
    KÜNG Stefan   549   21   
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   524   6   
    OOMEN Sam   521   2   
    for a total of 13880 points (Madrazo currently running at 68% of that)

    You'll notice that that selection includes a number of riders that nobody thought of at all in compiling their teams: if we remove them, the best selection is:
    NAESEN Oliver   1149   10   
    LATOUR Pierre   1098   23   
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   1060   28   
    ROGLIC Primoz   1005   1   
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   984   14   
    MARECZKO Jakub   855   17   
    MOSCON Gianni   742   3   
    MCLAY Daniel   703   4   
    TURGIS Anthony   596   1   
    KÜNG Stefan   549   21   
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   524   6   
    OOMEN Sam   521   2   
    CAPIOT Amaury   496   1   
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   492   24   
    VLIEGEN Loïc   431   3   
    EIKING Odd Christian   423   10   
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   419   9   
    MARINI Nicolas   419   1
    with a total score of 12466

    By contrast, the best selection from among those we overlooked is:   
    CLAEYS Dimitri   814
    TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres   805
    BETTIOL Alberto   661
    SMITH Dion   641
    BEVIN Patrick   600
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   573
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   520
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   505
    MEURISSE Xandro   472
    BRANDAO Joni Silva   466
    MOAZEMI GOUDARZI Arvin   464
    WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads   429
    LAPORTE Christophe   426
    GERTS Floris   416
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert   398
    CALMEJANE Lilian   390
    VAN AERT Wout   362
    KAMP Alexander   360
    Totalling 9302 points: Madrazo is beating the Collective Ignorance team.

    He is also beating the official Collective Wisdom team (most popular picks), which would be in 6th place with 7843, earned thus:
    LATOUR Pierre   1098
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   1060
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   984
    MARECZKO Jakub   855
    KÜNG Stefan   549
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   492
    EIKING Odd Christian   423
    POWER Robert   325
    BOUDAT Thomas   325
    RUFFONI Nicola   318
    MOHORIC Matej   311
    QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney   224
    HNIK Karel   222
    MULLEN Ryan   209
    VERVAEKE Louis   139
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   131
    CHEVRIER Clément   103
    FLAKEMORE Campbell   64

    but that is because I put the 4 riders on 10 teams into alphabetical order to create that team.  If I had put in Naesen instead of Chevrier, it would have 8714 points and be in 3rd overall.

    But there is also the need to acknowledge the mistakes made by at least some of us:

    BOLIVAR HERNANDEZ Isaac   0   4
    ZORDAN Andrea   0   3
    OWSIAN Arkadiusz   0   1
    AFFINI Edoardo   1   1
    KLARIS Magnus Bak   4   1
    BOUHANNI Rayane   5   3
    GIBSON Matthew   5   1
    ANDERBERG Hampus   8   1
    BARTA William   10   1
    MCEVOY Jonathan   12   1
    VERHELST Louis   15   2
    HAVIK Piotr   15   1
    CAM Maxime   15   1
    HOLOWESKO Liam   17   1
    KERRISON Jesse   21   2
    PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien   24   1
    WATSON Calvin   25   1
    GREGAARD WILSLY Jonas   28   1
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #47 on: January 07, 2017, 14:10 »
    Pleased to still be in with a shout, although Madrazo outscored me handsomely in 2016.
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #48 on: February 07, 2017, 20:50 »

    Into the decisive third year: will some of our picks have a delayed breakthrough?

    Year 3, Month 1 to 5th Feb

    Rather unimpressive: the riders in the 2017-19 game have scored better this month.  Maybe our key picks are established enough now not to be concerned with the early season events, or maybe this edition just has fewer Aussies.

    MCLAY Daniel   120pts   4 teams (a win and a third in Majorcan races)
    VERVAEKE Louis   84   23 (a second and a fourth in Majorcan races)
    SENNI Manuel   77   4 (3rd in Volta a la Comminitat Valenciana)
    LATOUR Pierre   61   23  (4th in Bessèges)
    MARECZKO Jakub   48   17 (11th and some stage points in Dubai)
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   46   14 (2 stage wins in San Juan)

    Points gained
    1   GPBlanco   408  (Vervaeke, Senni, Latour, Mareczko, Gaviria)
    2   Madrazo   398 (Vervaeke, Senni, Latour, Mareczko, Gaviria)
    3   Kazistuta   396  (McLay, Vervaeke, Latour, Mareczko, Gaviria)
    4   HugoKoblet   371(Vervaeke, Latour, Mareczko, Gaviria)
    5   Joelsim   358
    6   Jakob747   354
    7   ItalianGigolo   324
    8   Josedin   315
    9   Mutschi   314
    10   Multispeed   305
    11   Nuvolablu   284
    12   Asdfgh101   280
    13   Snccdcno   274
    14   GeraintTooFast   273
    15   Leadbelly   262
    16   Skidmark   261
    17   Alykaptan   255
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   254
    19   Karaev   253
    20   Ludwigzgz   246
    21   Comodoro   236
    22   HilltopFinisher   216
    23   RoteLaterne   208
    24   Vladimir   196
    25   Flo   195
    26   AlPacino   187
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   185
    28   Del1962   177
    29   MCMountain   175
    30   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   166
    31   DJSprtsch   163
    32   Ruudz0r   149
    33   Scrooll07   74
       CollectiveWisdom   336


    Standings
    A slight increase in the leader's margin, and in that between 2nd and the chasers.  Only one positional change: Italian Gigolo leapfrogs Leadbelly for 4th.

    1   Madrazo   9823
    2   Joelsim   9529
    3   Multispeed   8293
    4   ItalianGigolo   8190
    5   Leadbelly   8179
    6   Jakob747   8137
    7   HugoKoblet   8128
    8   Skidmark   7910
    9   Nuvolablu   7900
    10   Kazistuta   7785
    11   Vladimir   7410
    12   MCMountain   7263
    13   Karaev   7214
    14   Alykaptan   7193
    15   GPBlanco   7168
    16   HilltopFinisher   6961
    17   Ruudz0r   6727
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   6705
    19   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   6481
    20   Asdfgh101   6453
    21   Snccdcno   6247
    22   GeraintTooFast   6045
    23   Josedin   5825
    24   RoteLaterne   5696
    25   Ludwigzgz   5670
    26   Mutschi   5514
    27   AlPacino   5370
    28   Comodoro   5263
    29   Del1962   5091
    30   Flo   4934
    31   Armchair_Cyclist   4760
    32   Scrooll07   3306
    33   DJSprtsch   2350
       CollectiveWisdom   8168
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #49 on: March 06, 2017, 23:25 »
    Year 3 Month 2 up to 5th March

    Still not really taken off this season:
    (Name/points/teams)
    ROGLIC Primoz   209   1  (GC win and 2 stage podiums in Volta ao Algarve for MCMountain)
    NAESEN Oliver   95   10  (top tens in Omloop and Kuurne)
    JARAMILLO DIEZ Daniel Alexander   84   1  (GC 4th in Langkawi for Comodoro)
    MARECZKO Jakub   70   17 (1st, 1st, 2nd and 4th in Lagkawi stages)
    MOHORIC Matej   53   15 (top ten in Laigueglia)


    1   Madrazo   443 (Naesen, Mareczko, Mohoric and 11 other scorers)
    2   Joelsim   413  (Naesen, Mareczko and 13 other scorers)
    3   MCMountain   402 (Roglic and 9 others)
    4   Vladimir   395 
    5   Blues_in_the_Bottle   394
    6   HugoKoblet   379
    7   ItalianGigolo   377
    8   Armchair_Cyclist   350
    9   Skidmark   342
    10   Multispeed   341
    11   Jakob747   335
    12   Nuvolablu   334
    13   HilltopFinisher   304
    14   Leadbelly   301
    15   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   284
    16   GPBlanco   282
    17   Ruudz0r   269
    18   Karaev   266
    19   Alykaptan   257
    20   Josedin   254
    21   Ludwigzgz   253
    22   AlPacino   229
    23   Kazistuta   226
    23   Del1962   226
    25   Snccdcno   217
    26   RoteLaterne   198
    27   Mutschi   183
    28   Asdfgh101   175
    29   Scrooll07   167
    30   DJSprtsch   153
    31   Comodoro   148
    32   Flo   147
    33   GeraintTooFast   134
       CollectiveWisdom   377

    The top 2 in February were already the top two overall: their stranglehold increases.  HugoKoblet moves up 2 places for the only drama in the top ten.  At least the race for the last podium spot might have some suspense...
    1   Madrazo   10266
    2   Joelsim   9942
    3   Multispeed   8634
    4   ItalianGigolo   8567
    5   HugoKoblet   8507
    6   Leadbelly   8480
    7   Jakob747   8472
    8   Skidmark   8252
    9   Nuvolablu   8234
    10   Kazistuta   8011
    11   Vladimir   7805
    12   MCMountain   7665
    13   Karaev   7480
    14   GPBlanco   7450
    14   Alykaptan   7450
    16   HilltopFinisher   7265
    17   Blues_in_the_Bottle   7099
    18   Ruudz0r   6996
    19   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   6765
    20   Asdfgh101   6628
    21   Snccdcno   6464
    22   GeraintTooFast   6179
    23   Josedin   6079
    24   Ludwigzgz   5923
    25   RoteLaterne   5894
    26   Mutschi   5697
    27   AlPacino   5599
    28   Comodoro   5411
    29   Del1962   5317
    30   Armchair_Cyclist   5110
    31   Flo   5081
    32   Scrooll07   3473
    33   DJSprtsch   2503
       CollectiveWisdom   8538
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #50 on: April 05, 2017, 11:57 »
    Year 3, Month 3 6th March to 2nd April


    Those emerging riders from 27 months ago are now being named among the main contenders in major events, but not many of us recognised who would be doing that.

    NAESEN Oliver   231pts for 10 teams (3rd in Harelbeke, 6th in Dwars door Vlaanderen, double figure hauls in Paris-Nice, Gent-Wevelgem and Ronde)
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   227pts (3rd in Catalunya GC, with stage and mountain classification points, 5th in GP Indurain, stage & GC points in Paris-Nice for Asdfgh101 and Blues in the Bottle)
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   226pts   14 teams (5th in Milan-San Remo, 9th in Gent-Wevelgem, stage win in Tirreno-Adriatico)
    ROGLIC Primoz   166   (4th in Tirreno-Adriatico and some stage points for MCMountain)
    BOUDAT Thomas   108   16 (2nd in Loire Atlantique and Paris Troyes, stage win in Settimana Coppi e Bartali, points from other Coupe de France events)
    DE BUYST Jasper   105   9 (3rd in Ronde van Drenthe, 10th in Dreidaagse GC)
    DASSONVILLE Flavien   96   4 (winin Tourangelle, 9th in Loire Atlantique)
    LOOIJ André   64   10 (top ten in Nomere and Handzame)

    but among those that we all overlooked were:
    CALMEJANE Lilian   200   (GC win and stage points in Settimana Coppi e Bartali, KoM winner in Paris-Nice)
    AVILA VANEGAS Edwin Alcibiades   141   (GC 2nd and stage pts in Tour of Taiwan)
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert   107   (5th in Nokere, 12th in Gent-Wevelgem)
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   106   (5th in Harelbeke, 15th in Dwars door Vlaanderen)

    Points earned
    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   766 (Soler, Gaviria, Boudat and De Buyst)
    2   Madrazo   758 (Naesen, Gaviria, Boudat)
    3   Skidmark   672 (Naesen, Gaviria, Boudat, but much less from minor scorers than Madrazo)
    4   ItalianGigolo   666(Naesen, Gaviria, Boudat, but much less from minor scorers than Madrazo)
    4   Asdfgh101   666(Soler, Gaviria, Boudat)
    6   Jakob747   626
    7   MCMountain   593
    8   HugoKoblet   583
    9   Joelsim   553
    10   Multispeed   545
    11   Josedin   537
    12   Ruudz0r   500
    13   Leadbelly   488
    14   Armchair_Cyclist   454
    15   Kazistuta   440
    16   GPBlanco   383
    17   Nuvolablu   375
    18   Karaev   358
    19   Vladimir   350
    20   Ludwigzgz   349
    21   Alykaptan   300
    22   GeraintTooFast   289
    23   HilltopFinisher   285
    24   Del1962   270
    25   Scrooll07   254
    26   Snccdcno   252
    27   RoteLaterne   244
    28   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   235
    29   Flo   197
    30   DJSprtsch   194
    31   AlPacino   163
    32   Comodoro   141
    33   Mutschi   113
       CollectiveWisdom   516

    Standings
    Madrazo stretches out his lead by a couple of hundred more points, Joelsim joins him in crossing the 10,000 point marker, Italian Gigolo makes it onto the podium, and Blues in the Bottle is biggest riser with a 4 place improvement.

    1   Madrazo   11024
    2   Joelsim   10495
    3   ItalianGigolo   9233
    4   Multispeed   9179
    5   Jakob747   9098
    6   HugoKoblet   9090
    7   Leadbelly   8968
    8   Skidmark   8924
    9   Nuvolablu   8609
    10   Kazistuta   8451
    11   MCMountain   8258
    12   Vladimir   8155
    13   Blues_in_the_Bottle   7865
    14   Karaev   7838
    15   GPBlanco   7833
    16   Alykaptan   7750
    17   HilltopFinisher   7550
    18   Ruudz0r   7496
    19   Asdfgh101   7294
    20   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   7000
    21   Snccdcno   6716
    22   Josedin   6616
    23   GeraintTooFast   6468
    24   Ludwigzgz   6272
    25   RoteLaterne   6138
    26   Mutschi   5810
    27   AlPacino   5762
    28   Del1962   5587
    29   Armchair_Cyclist   5564
    30   Comodoro   5552
    31   Flo   5278
    32   Scrooll07   3727
    33   DJSprtsch   2697
       CollectiveWisdom   8999

    The top two have 11 riders in common, so to make the game competitive Joelsim needs his different 7:
    BUCHMANN Emanuel
    EIKING Odd Christian
    VALLEE Boris
    RUFFONI Nicola
    SARREAU Marc
    FOLIFOROV Alexander
    CONTRERAS PINZON Rodrigo


    to outscore Madrazo's:
    MOSCON Gianni
    VLIEGEN Loïc
    BOUDAT Thomas
    MOHORIC Matej
    WACKERMANN Luca
    SENNI Manuel
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu

    by about 75 points per rider over the remainder of the year.


    I haven't updated the Collective Ignorance hypothetical team for a while, the top 18 riders who none of us selected.  It would have a total score of 10796, so closer to Madrazo than any other manager has accomplished.

    TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres   982
    CALMEJANE Lilian   870
    CLAEYS Dimitri   844
    BETTIOL Alberto   743
    SMITH Dion   683
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   613
    BEVIN Patrick   610
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   602
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert   531
    MEURISSE Xandro   525
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   520
    WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads   513
    LAPORTE Christophe   512
    BRANDAO Joni Silva   475
    GERTS Floris   465
    MOAZEMI GOUDARZI Arvin   464
    BACKAERT Frederik   424
    POLITT Nils   420

    The top 8 of these are in the top 18 team of eligible riders, which would have a score of 16321:
    NAESEN Oliver   1478
    ROGLIC Primoz   1385
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   1289
    LATOUR Pierre   1203
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   1060
    TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres   982
    MARECZKO Jakub   978
    CALMEJANE Lilian   870
    CLAEYS Dimitri   844
    MCLAY Daniel   823
    MOSCON Gianni   822
    BETTIOL Alberto   743
    SMITH Dion   683
    KÜNG Stefan   632
    TURGIS Anthony   614
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   613
    BEVIN Patrick   610
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   602

    Madrazo's score is 67.5% of this perfection, DJSprtsch's is 16.5%
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #51 on: April 05, 2017, 17:43 »

    The top two have 11 riders in common, so to make the game competitive Joelsim needs his different 7:
    BUCHMANN Emanuel
    EIKING Odd Christian
    VALLEE Boris
    RUFFONI Nicola
    SARREAU Marc
    FOLIFOROV Alexander
    CONTRERAS PINZON Rodrigo


    to outscore Madrazo's:
    MOSCON Gianni
    VLIEGEN Loïc
    BOUDAT Thomas
    MOHORIC Matej
    WACKERMANN Luca
    SENNI Manuel
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu

    by about 75 points per rider over the remainder of the year.


    And Sarreau immediately goes and scores 36...
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #52 on: April 05, 2017, 18:02 »
    And Sarreau immediately goes and scores 36...

    I've a feeling Madrazo has this in the bag.
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    Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #53 on: May 08, 2017, 23:57 »
    Year 3, Month 4 3rd to 30th April (yes, that is a week ago, but it was the most recent update when I went to CQ this evening.  I guess it fits the intention of monthly updates...

    Spring Classics season, but most of the points came from stage races.  Some fairly to very popular riders score well, but a unique pick dominates.
    ROGLIC Primoz   408pts   1 team (5th in Pais Vasco, 3rd in Romandie, and 3 stage wins in the process) for MCMountain
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   190   (13th in Pais Vasco, 7th in Tour of the Alps, 10th in Romandie) for 6 teams
    MOSCON Gianni   127   (5th in Paris-Roubaix) for 3 teams
    LATOUR Pierre   116 (3rd in Finistere, 14th in both Fleche and Romandie)  for 23 teams
    KÜNG Stefan   95    (stage win and points classification in Romandie) for 21 teams
    VALLEE Boris   67 (4th in Denain) for 5 teams
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   55 (8th in Yorkshire plus 4 sets of finisher points) for 9 teams

    Points gained
    1   MCMountain   775 (Roglic, Latour, Kung and Geoghegan)
    2   Joelsim   644 (Buchmann, Latour, Kung and Vallee)
    3   Vladimir   523 (Buchmann, Latour, Kung)
    4   Nuvolablu   507
    5   Madrazo   483
    6   AlPacino   430
    7   Del1962   426
    8   Mutschi   422
    9   Ludwigzgz   373
    10   Multispeed   369
    11   ItalianGigolo   358
    12   Skidmark   356
    13   Scrooll07   351
    14   HilltopFinisher   337
    15   HugoKoblet   335
    16   Leadbelly   332
    17   Alykaptan   326
    18   Karaev   311
    18   Snccdcno   311
    20   GPBlanco   301
    20   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   301
    22   Kazistuta   263
    23   RoteLaterne   259
    24   Armchair_Cyclist   250
    25   Jakob747   246
    26   Asdfgh101   236
    27   GeraintTooFast   230
    28   Ruudz0r   227
    29   Blues_in_the_Bottle   192
    30   Josedin   176
    31   Comodoro   167
    32   Flo   153
    33   DJSprtsch   77
       CollectiveWisdom   409

    Standings
    Joelsim takes 160 off the lead, and doing that a few more times would about three more times would make it competitive.  Ruffoni has decided that he s not going to help.  Hugo Koblet and MCMountain have both moved up by a single place: that's about it.
    1   Madrazo   11507
    2   Joelsim   11139
    3   ItalianGigolo   9591
    4   Multispeed   9548
    5   HugoKoblet   9425
    6   Jakob747   9344
    7   Leadbelly   9300
    8   Skidmark   9280
    9   Nuvolablu   9116
    10   MCMountain   9033
    11   Kazistuta   8714
    12   Vladimir   8678
    13   Karaev   8149
    14   GPBlanco   8134
    15   Alykaptan   8076
    16   Blues_in_the_Bottle   8057
    17   HilltopFinisher   7887
    18   Ruudz0r   7723
    19   Asdfgh101   7530
    20   The_Fool_on_the_Hill   7301
    21   Snccdcno   7027
    22   Josedin   6792
    23   GeraintTooFast   6698
    24   Ludwigzgz   6645
    25   RoteLaterne   6397
    26   Mutschi   6232
    27   AlPacino   6192
    28   Del1962   6013
    29   Armchair_Cyclist   5814
    30   Comodoro   5719
    31   Flo   5431
    32   Scrooll07   4078
    33   DJSprtsch   2774
       CollectiveWisdom   9350
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