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Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
« Reply #540 on: September 30, 2015, 17:04 »
Core team renews as Nathan Haas and Omar Fraile will join Africa’s Team for 2016
10 riders are listed as having re-signed; 8 Tour starters, Sbaragli, Berhane ... and then it says 'among others'.

Who are these 'others' that haven't been announced elsewhere, but aren't specifically named as staying on this team either?
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*za Johann van Zyl
*za Jaco Venter

They already trimmed 6 Africans off the roster before this season - I don't think they'll cut even deeper into the African part of the team. So Reguigui, Niyonshuti and the 5 Saffers should be safe.
The same cannot be said for Ciolek, Stauff and Goss. You'd expect the rider who won the team's first major victory to be explicitly named if he'd been re-signed ... so I think his (and his lieutenant Stauff's) departure is more likely than not.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #541 on: September 30, 2015, 17:32 »
    wonder what happen with Ciolek personality difference ?
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #542 on: September 30, 2015, 17:37 »
    Core team renews as Nathan Haas and Omar Fraile will join Africa’s Team for 2016
    10 riders are listed as having re-signed; 8 Tour starters, Sbaragli, Berhane ... and then it says 'among others'.

    They already trimmed 6 Africans off the roster before this season - I don't think they'll cut even deeper into the African part of the team. So Reguigui, Niyonshuti and the 5 Saffers should be safe.
    The same cannot be said for Ciolek, Stauff and Goss. You'd expect the rider who won the team's first major victory to be explicitly named if he'd been re-signed ... so I think his (and his lieutenant Stauff's) departure is more likely than not.

    I tend to agree with you there. I also wonder whether the HighRoad connection might offer Matt Goss something of a stay of execution...
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #543 on: September 30, 2015, 19:48 »
    If this team is serious about moving to WT then they need to shed the African riders that are not able to ride at a WT level. Being a development team is all fine and good but if you are going to sign Cav and ride three grand tours a year you need a deep roster of riders with a certain level of experience and talent.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #544 on: October 02, 2015, 10:18 »
    inevitable really, but it's sad to see the african element be sidelined.

    losing Meintjes is the (unsurprising) nut of the problem.

    being a WT team requires that 15 guys might be racing top races on the same day say (pais Vasco and the classics) and it's hard to make big sponsors happy and do this if a significant portion of your squad is inexperienced and young (and amongst the weakest on the startline)

    Teklahaiminot is strong, Berhane and Kudos are v talented but much past that the squad seem to be mainly average domestiques and pack fodder. van zyl won a stage at austria against 2nd tier names and reguigi won langkawi, but the guys on display at the top races tended to be the same names

    no offence inteded to the team, who've had a great season, but the signing of top level european pros is neccessary for the step up and correspondingly likely to make the team a less interesting proposition to follow.

    I was delighted with Cummings Tour stage and Ciolek MSR win, despite them both being top Euro pros, but it felt like they were coming from the plucky underdog. much harder to feel that a team that could start the tour say with Cav Eisel Renshaw Boassan Hagen, farrar, cummings tekla, berhane, janse van rensburg as being the same.


    assume ciolek is out. don't think he had a win all season, wasn't in the mix that much either. and the experienced euro classics/sprint guy role has been filled
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #545 on: November 02, 2015, 10:19 »
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #548 on: November 18, 2015, 21:06 »
    https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/667082367383805953
    hmmm
    So the rumours are true:
    Team Dimension Data U23 to be set up in Europe, but the planning is on hold until the WT license is certain.

    *za Jayde Julius should be one of those on the team, with *dz Adil Barbari another obvious name.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #549 on: November 25, 2015, 13:03 »
    Africa’s Team goes World Tour with Dimension Data

    WorldTour license confirmed, but almost more importantly, the Conti team as well. :cool
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #550 on: January 26, 2016, 09:45 »
    from the Tropicale thread...

    It's a shame that, for the second year in a row, Africa's top cycling team #mtn MTN-Qhubeka/ #didata Dimension Data has chosen to pass over this race. They're not even sending the newly-set-up Continental team. :(

    They seem to have been very late in setting up the devo team and there doesn't seem to be much/any info around about it. Other than Eyob and Gebrezgabiher do we even know who will be riding for them? Girdlestone we can guess as he tweeted about heading to SA the other day, but it all seems a bit ramshackle.

    the riders of the "DIMENSION DATA FOR QHUBEKA" continental team are now confirmed on the website of the UCI:
    • *za DE BOD Stefan
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #551 on: January 26, 2016, 12:12 »
    the riders of the "DIMENSION DATA FOR QHUBEKA" continental team are now confirmed on the website of the UCI:
    And again the UCI jumps the gun ... :fp
    As a rule, you always - always! - let the people who pay for the thing announce it first. At least give them some warning so that #didata (in this case) can prepare a press release.

    Very poor communication.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #552 on: January 27, 2016, 01:43 »
    And again the UCI jumps the gun ... :fp

    Ah the UCI, where every night is amateur night. :lol
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #553 on: February 04, 2016, 09:04 »
    http://www.velo-club.net/route/continentales-interviews/les-interviews/109760-champions-de-demain-itw-keagan-girdlestone

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    It's not new news, but I wonder if DDD know about this.  :-x
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #556 on: June 19, 2016, 12:14 »
    Has he actually been selected yet?
      no not yet but has been track focused that is for sure 
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #557 on: June 19, 2016, 12:30 »
      no not yet but has been track focused that is for sure

    Yeah definitely the track focus but I wonder if it will all be for nothing on Cav's part. If I were the GB selectors I think I'd take a fifth genuine team pursuiter who could double up in the Omnium for the track endurance squad.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #559 on: November 06, 2016, 22:06 »
    Got wonder if Dimension Data is happy with the Cav signing so far , clear Olympic focus, sure brought some media and money but ??

    :-x  :D

    Anyway, what are your thoughts Fus (or anyone for that matter) about how DDD got on this year?

    Girdlestone's crash and injuries was a bit of a downer as they might have expected their best results from him. Not of a lot of UCI race days for most of the riders and neither Eyob or Gebreigzabhier got races days with DD as stagiaires - maybe both are work permit related, but going to be difficile to progress if you can't race.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #560 on: November 02, 2017, 20:07 »
    http://www.ridemedia.com.au/features/into-the-final-10-from-a-global-zwift-sift/

    Dimension Data Continental are joining Canyon SRAM this year in offering a potential place in their team via the Zwift Academy.

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    The Zwift Academy has been created with those riders in mind, those who – for some reason or another – may have slipped through the cracks, or are perhaps new to the sport and bursting with talent.

    Most of the youngsters do have some proper races in their legs. Harrison Bailey, who wrote the article, rode Gila and the Cascade Classic this year for example (however he was DNF in both).
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #561 on: November 21, 2017, 11:04 »
    https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/932902814698926081

    Ollie Jones gets the golden ticket.

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    Well it is, but that and him potentially being a decent rider aren't mutually exclusive. He has ridden a few UCI races, so it's not as if they took the skates off him and put him on a bike for the first time a few weeks ago.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #562 on: September 07, 2018, 20:56 »
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/dimension-data-reduce-number-african-riders-2019-pressure-retain-worldtour-status-393360

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    “The investments we’re making now are about being sustainable. Ultimately we want to mobilise the African continent, with the success of this team. We want to create an African hero. We can’t do that if we don’t exist,” says manager Doug Ryder.

    Currently 13 of 27 riders come from the African continent – and we will reduce that by a couple.

    Riders with contracts that are up:

    Kudus
    Berhane
    Debesay
    Van Zyl
    Dougall

    Take your pick.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #563 on: September 07, 2018, 23:08 »
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/dimension-data-reduce-number-african-riders-2019-pressure-retain-worldtour-status-393360

    Riders with contracts that are up:

    Kudus
    Berhane
    Debesay
    Van Zyl
    Dougall

    Take your pick.

    What with Cav's lack of wins, I'd have to wonder how well they are faring. There may be mitigating factors - like if DiData signed on because of Cav - which I know nothing about - but as far as wins go, Cav has just not been there. With good reason - he got in some pretty severe accidents - but still.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #564 on: September 08, 2018, 05:19 »
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/dimension-data-reduce-number-african-riders-2019-pressure-retain-worldtour-status-393360

    Riders with contracts that are up:

    Kudus
    Berhane
    Debesay
    Van Zyl
    Dougall

    Take your pick.
    Let go:
    *za Johan van Zyl - raced for the #cajarural amateur team in 2011-2012, will there be a spot for him there?
    *er Mekseb Debesay - back to #bikeaid, or a tour on the Asian circuit?
    *za Nic Dougall - back to *za domestic racing?

    On the fence about *er Natnael Berhane. He definitely has the talent, but hasn't fulfilled it much in recent years. Then again, he may have been used as a domestique more than before. If they're ruthless and have to cut costs, he may get the sack - though it would be a bad decision.

    *er Merhawi Kudus is the test case for how 'African' the team will stay. He's one of their best points scorers! Better than both Cavendish and Meintjes this year, and I suspect he's on a far lower salary.
    And indeed, on CQranking he is listed on the 2019 roster. They usually know their stuff, so I'm pretty sure he'll stay.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #565 on: February 07, 2019, 21:13 »
    BMC merged with CCC but now #didata rides with BMC....expert commentary on Norwegian Eurosport today was quite clear that it was generally known in the peloton last year #didata was riding with inferior gear. Their previous bike supplier has a comepletely new set of top-of-the-line models for this year, so it does not necessarily carry over to whichever team is sponsored by that supplier now. However, if we are to believe what is said, we should be looking for better performances from #didata as a team this year as they are no longer held back by inferior equipment.

    Edvald Boasson Hagen's surprising ITT win in Valenciana fits with this picture, he has had aerodynamic challenges for a long time on the ITT bike and he hardly won any races outside of Norway on his old TT bike. These problems appears to be a thing of the past now.
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #566 on: February 07, 2019, 21:31 »
    it's likely that BMC is one of the better bikes, yeah. Not sure if MTN/Dimension would have stayed with Cervelo for four years if the bikes really were that bad though. The S5 was introduced in 2016 or so.

    On the other hand: it was probably about time for an update indeed then.

    Edit: or are you referring to the ITT bikes only?
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #567 on: February 07, 2019, 21:48 »
    Edit: or are you referring to the ITT bikes only?

    As I understood it, the BMC bikes are considered an improvement in all disciplines, but obviously the results to back up the claim with - so far - is only with the TT bikes. Some competitors (Kristoff!)  say this year's Edvald seems to be in better shape than last year's. Considering that EBH had a gall bladder problem and some surgery for that last year in the start of the season, which of course had an impact on his training and preparations, that is probably also true. In other words, it may not be all about the bike, and not all about how good things are looking this year. It might also be that last year wasn't very good with more or less all the captains enjoying too much time in the hospital.

    (PS: can we change the thread title to include Dimension Data, at least in brackets behind the old title? I don't think they use Qhubeka in their name any more?) 
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #568 on: February 07, 2019, 22:02 »
    BMC merged with CCC but now #didata rides with BMC....expert commentary on Norwegian Eurosport today was quite clear that it was generally known in the peloton last year #didata was riding with inferior gear. Their previous bike supplier has a comepletely new set of top-of-the-line models for this year, so it does not necessarily carry over to whichever team is sponsored by that supplier now. However, if we are to believe what is said, we should be looking for better performances from #didata as a team this year as they are no longer held back by inferior equipment.

    Edvald Boasson Hagen's surprising ITT win in Valenciana fits with this picture, he has had aerodynamic challenges for a long time on the ITT bike and he hardly won any races outside of Norway on his old TT bike. These problems appears to be a thing of the past now.

    It's interesting the equipment merry go round sometimes. DD were unhappy with Cervelo from what some have said and Cav made some comments about it aswell last year. So Cervelo are now at Sunweb who were rumoured to have been unhappy with Giant last year who have now ended up supplying CCC. Perhaps the winners in the change of manufacturer will be DD out of all of this
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    Re: Qhubeka - winning in a place near you
    « Reply #569 on: February 07, 2019, 22:03 »
    yeah, it's also still early in the season, and guys like Dumoulin, Dennis or Roglic weren't in the race. But it looks like an improvement (probably on all levels) indeed.

    The coming races will probably give a better idea what it's all about. It'll be also interesting to see how guys like Dumoulin or Kelderman will cope with the Cervelo bike in the time trials then.
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