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Who will win the Tour de Romandie?

Christopher Froome
3 (25%)
Nairo Alexander Quintana Rojas
3 (25%)
Vincenzo Nibali
1 (8.3%)
Simon Spilak
1 (8.3%)
Ruí Alberto Faria da Costa
0 (0%)
Rigoberto Úran Úran
1 (8.3%)
Thibaut Pinot
0 (0%)
Jean-Christophe Péraud
0 (0%)
Ryder Hesjedal
0 (0%)
Simon Yates
0 (0%)
Ion Izagirre Intxausti
0 (0%)
Michele Scarponi
0 (0%)
Robert Gesink
2 (16.7%)
Rafal Majka
0 (0%)
Geraint Thomas
0 (0%)
Jurgen Van den Broeck
0 (0%)
Mathias Frank
0 (0%)
Jakob Fuglsang
0 (0%)
Laurens Ten Dam
1 (8.3%)

Total Members Voted: 12

Voting closed: April 29, 2015, 21:33


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Re: Tour de Romandie
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2015, 20:35 »
okay, looks like they just sucked

(gt) "As expected it was complicated, I found myself dropped quickly with two other teammates. Hoping to make it better for the future ..."

(Alexis Vuillermoz, who said he woke up with a "nice sinusitis" earlier on today)
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #31 on: April 28, 2015, 20:37 »
    they did 2 TTTs :)
    Must have confused this with Coppi & Bartali. :D
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #32 on: April 28, 2015, 21:42 »
    the last climb tomorrow is a tough one (they do the final ~9km), not the usual reduced bunch sprint & Albasini wins type of climb, although there are still ~17k to go from the top, and a small group might come back together.



    average of ~7% for the final 7.5km
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #33 on: April 28, 2015, 22:51 »
    Time for Spilak to shine  :D

    Here is today's finish, if anyone is really that interested in watching the highlights of a TTT..

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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #34 on: April 28, 2015, 23:04 »
    Time for Spilak to shine  :D

    last week, when asked on Twitter if he would do the Giro, Zakarin replied that Romandie would be his main goal for the season, and that he wasn't in peak form for Pais Vasco yet. If this is true, it will be very interesting to see, what he can do here...
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #35 on: April 29, 2015, 22:17 »
    the last climb tomorrow is a tough one (they do the final ~9km), not the usual reduced bunch sprint & Albasini wins type of climb,

    I was totally wrong  :yum



    breakaway or sprint tomorrow, no idea. The weather seems to be okay for the moment

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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #36 on: April 29, 2015, 23:15 »
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #37 on: April 30, 2015, 09:17 »
    watched the replay

    GT got a flat at the worst possible time.  25km to go or so, just on the start of the climb when things were heating up.

    Changed the flat quickly, and Pete Kannaugh had dropped to help him back on ... but he dangled off the back and really struggled to make it back that last little bit ...

    then Kannaugh blew - Unfortunately that also left Froome isolated so Movistar and Etixx and Astana picked up the pace - and the peloton went faster and faster up the climb

    and GT collected all the stragglers but no one would work with him ... so finished about 3minutes back.



    Froome held on nicely enough losing no time - but it cost the team options.
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #38 on: April 30, 2015, 10:17 »
    this is today's finish



    there's a circuit in the end, so the riders will have seen the finish before the sprint - could still get a bit messy though
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #39 on: April 30, 2015, 22:20 »
    For the record:


    I didn't watch the stage, don't think I missed out too much though..
    Hoping for more on tomorrow's apparently rainy stage..
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #40 on: April 30, 2015, 22:25 »
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #41 on: April 30, 2015, 22:32 »
    I didn't watch the stage, don't think I missed out too much though..
    Hoping for more on tomorrow's apparently rainy stage..

    it was a bit of a strange stage, with Movistar setting a hard pace on the early climbs, although they don't have anyone who can sprint. Maybe one of the gc riders showed sings of weakness...don't know. It resulted in a reduced bunch early on and lot of attacks on the flat later on, also Rolland, Quintana (!!) and Nibali went for it, but all of them nowhere close to be successful.

    bit of a funny note, Zeits was one of the riders who joined Quintana, and Astana's post race commentary is not exactly accurate:

    Zeits attacked with two other riders in the final 20km of the stage ahead of a reduced peloton to create opportunities for his teammates on a cloudy day in Switzerland - Teammates Michele Scarponi, Jakob Fuglsang, Andrei Grivko, Rein Taaramäe and Vincenzo Nibali all waited safely while Zeits worked at the front, but the peloton quickly caught up and closed the gap

    in fact, he didn't do a single turn himself of course, being up there with Quintana, and with his leaders sitting behind in the peloton :P
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #43 on: May 01, 2015, 08:33 »
    Happy to have rain for this stage but I hope not on that TT you say is technical. I never want rain on a TT.

    Froome doesn't as underweight as often and those temperatures aren't bad so he might be OK. They're in Switzerland so the I'm assuming the roads are good.
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #44 on: May 01, 2015, 12:22 »
    in fact, he didn't do a single turn himself of course, being up there with Quintana, and with his leaders sitting behind in the peloton :P
    Details, shmetails.
    It's called 'being economical with the truth'.

    Probably only done to protect poor Andrey from Vino's wrath ... :D
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #45 on: May 01, 2015, 17:53 »

    Stefan Küng is rapidly making a name for himself.
    Another win that old Fabian or Der Panzerwagon would be proud of.
    However,  in terms of roadside spectators, Romandie is Europe's answer to the Tour of Qatar.
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #46 on: May 01, 2015, 17:59 »
    Looks like there are a few stars in the making. Kung, Benoot, Gaviria, Lopez Moreno, Alaphillipe, the Yates brothers
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #47 on: May 01, 2015, 18:06 »
    That boy's going to win a lot of bike races. I hope he had some friends and family there to watch him today. I know he targeted the stage.

    Rain again tomorrow?
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #49 on: May 02, 2015, 02:26 »
    nice win for the kid.   impressive
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    « Reply #50 on: May 02, 2015, 15:00 »
    nice win for the kid.   impressive

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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #52 on: May 02, 2015, 18:48 »
    good climb, Froome and Quintana were not as strong as expected, Zakarin kept his word, and Pinot's recon of the finish last week paid off. He knew when to attack and how to pace to maintain the gap

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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #53 on: May 02, 2015, 19:24 »
    here are the start times of the gc contenders and favorites for tomorrow:

    Pl Heure Eq. Nom Prénom G.C.
    1      12:14      #iam      BRANDLE Matthias      -
                            
    10      12:23      #katusha      VOROBYEV Anton      -
                            
    19      12:32      #greenedge      HEPBURN Michael      -
                            
    36      12:49      #astana      GRIVKO Andriy      -
                            
    55      13:08      #bmc      KUENG Stefan      -
                            
    57      13:10      #giant      LUDVIGSSON Tobias      -
                            
    67      13:20      #astana      TAARAMAE Rein      -
                            
    89      13:42      #bmc      DENNIS Rohan      -
                            
    92      13:45      #movistar      CASTROVIEJO Jonathan      -
                            
    95      13:48      #etixx      MARTIN Tony      -
    96      13:49      #iam      CLEMENT Stef      -
    97      13:50      #trek      ZOIDL Riccardo      -
    98      13:51      #ag2r      PERAUD Jean-Christophe      -
                            
    103      14:00      #lampre      COSTA Rui      -
                            
    106      14:06      #bmc      CARUSO Damiano      -
                            
    110      14:14      #lotto      MONFORT Maxime      +02:47
    111      14:16      #fdj      MORABITO Steve      +02:42
    112      14:18      #astana      FUGLSANG Jakob      +02:37
    113      14:20      #lotto      VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen      +02:33
    114      14:22      #tcg      DANIELSON Thomas      +02:25
    115      14:24      #jumbo      GESINK Robert      +01:56
    116      14:26      #ag2r      BARDET Romain      +01:32
    117      14:28      #iam      FRANK Mathias      +01:25
    118      14:30      #bmc      ATAPUMA Darwin      +01:20
    119      14:32      #tinkoff      MAJKA Rafal      +01:09
    120      14:34      #katusha      TROFIMOV Yury      +01:06
    121      14:36      #astana      SCARPONI Michele      +01:04
    122      14:38      #astana      NIBALI Vincenzo      +01:04
    123      14:40      #greenedge      YATES Simon      +01:01
    124      14:42      #etixx      URAN Rigoberto      +01:01
    125      14:44      #movistar      QUINTANA Nairo      +00:54
    126      14:46      #katusha      SPILAK Simon      +00:19
    127      14:48      #sky      FROOME Christopher      +00:14
    128      14:50      #fdj      PINOT Thibaut      +00:06
    129      14:52      #katusha      ZAKARIN Ilnur   

    ~pdf ORDRE DE DEPART DE L'ETAPE 6

    the weather looks sh*t, getting a bit better in the 2nd half of the race though (so that percentage up there is for the time frame in the bottom of course, not the development over race km)



    to make it more clearly, I have added some more times



    The course is technical and with some sharp corners, speedbumps, punchy climbs, cobbles...still, there are some flat parts as well, should be doable for Martin, he seems to be in great shape. Küng did a recon last week, but might have an disadvantage with the weather. If it really clears up for the gc favorites only, one of them will win I guess.

    about the gc...no idea tbh. Doing a recon paid off for Pinot today, might be the same tomorrow.
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #54 on: May 03, 2015, 01:34 »
    it was an interesting stage to watch.

    that descent in the rain was SCARY.  It was super incredibly fast with really wet roads ...  :o    Thibaut Pinot has obviously learnt a lot these last couple of years. 

    Froome was isolated again from very early on.  He kept riding towards the back of the peloton, and Magnus Backsted commented that it was his understanding that Froome didnt really like fighting for position within the peloton.  He doesnt like using his elbows or much - he likes his team to ride around him making room, riding at the front etc.    So when he was alone, he rode further back where he didnt have to fight.   It made sense in terms of how he rode this stage.

    when they got onto the penultimate climb, he made his way to the front ... not a massive effort, just rode his own pace but it was faster than everyone going back so ended up at the front.

    At the top he was 3rd or 4th wheel.  then was the fast descent in the wet - where he naturally enough finished back mid-lower pack.   He didnt fight to get back to the front ... so started the last cat 1 climb towards the back.

    Of course that meant as splits happened that he was caught behind some, and had to get back up.   Which he did.   He was never in any difficulty - it just looked odd for him to be fighting to get back on all the time.

    Once he got back to the front, he did a lot of work and made the pace so high that few attacks happened. 

    With the TT still to come, Quintana would have gone if he could.

    Will be interesting to see how Froome's TT is, and how much Pinot has improved.
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #55 on: May 03, 2015, 11:18 »
    Today is a big test in terms of where Froome is right now and what shape the competition is in.

    Last year he smashed the final TT and carried good form into the Dauphiné. If he's unable to put real time into the likes of Quintana, Pinot, Zakarin and Nibali though then I think alarm bells would be ringing.


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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #56 on: May 03, 2015, 20:52 »
    Froome clearly not firing on all cylinders yet. Having said that it was much better than Catalunya.

    Zakarin, no doubt, will be subject to more testing in the coming weeks.

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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #57 on: May 03, 2015, 21:25 »
    for the sake of completeness...



    there were also some split times, I don't know exactly were they were located though. The 1st time must be the flat part + a bit of the climb, the 2nd one for a part of the climb only, and the 3rd one for the descent to the finish.

    INT 1 I1 -> I2 I2 -> FIN
    1.      T. MARTIN      15:33            SCARPONI      01:33            KUENG      06:00
    2.      ZAKARIN      15:37            BAKELANTS      01:33            MORABITO      06:00
    3.      SPILAK      15:44            DENNIS      01:34            CASTROVIEJO      06:02
    4.      VDB      15:51            GESINK      01:34            URAN      06:04
    5.      CLEMENT      15:55            FUGLSANG      01:35            YATES      06:04
    6.      FROOME      15:56            PINOT      01:35            MAJKA      06:04
    7.      DENNIS      15:56            BARDET      01:35            T. MARTIN      06:05
    8.      BARDET      15:57            AMADOR      01:36            VDB      06:06
    9.      CASTROVIEJO      16:01            SPILAK      01:36            FUGLSANG      06:07
    10.      MAJKA      16:04            YATES      01:36            BRANDLE      06:07
    11.      URAN      16:07            HAGA      01:36            VOROBYEV      06:08
    12.      YATES      16:10            NIBALI      01:37            SPILAK      06:08
    13.      MORABITO      16:11            MORABITO      01:37            BARDET      06:09
    14.      FUGLSANG      16:14            MAJKA      01:37            DENNIS      06:09
    15.      MONFORT      16:15            ZAKARIN      01:37            CLEMENT      06:09
    16.      VAN EMDEN      16:16            FRANK      01:38            FRANK      06:10
    17.      PINOT      16:18            FLAKEMORE      01:38            LUDVIGSSON      06:10
    18.      AMADOR      16:19            KUENG      01:38            SERRY      06:11
    19.      NIBALI      16:20            QUINTANA      01:38            GRIVKO      06:12
    20.      KUENG      16:22            URAN      01:38            QUINTANA      06:12

    Küng was fastest on the descent, despite having worse weather conditions than those starting later on, so doing a recon paid off in that regard - and probably for Morabito as well, who lives close to Lausanne. But they lost too much in the early flat part to be able to fight for the win.

    Zakarin was 16 seconds down in the last part, which makes him only 3 seconds slower than Froome and 11 seconds slower than Martin in that part, despite changing his bike. Keeping in mind that he was only 2 seconds behind after the 2nd split, it's probably fair to say, that he would have won this without the mechanical.

    But in the end it didn't matter too much, he won the gc comfortably.

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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #58 on: May 04, 2015, 03:58 »
    Not looking super great for Uran then for the Giro.

    he should be in super form by now ... and is planning to base his Giro assault around his TT.   :fp
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #59 on: May 04, 2015, 07:47 »
    Uran has a good track record of being ready for his big goals and he didn't look to be all-out in that TT. He crossed the line staring at his power meter and not looking very tired or concerned. I theorize he did the TT at a particular pace/effort like maybe the one he has planned for the longer TT in the Giro.
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