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Is it over for Basso? Or will he ...

Win the 2013 Giro!
3 (17.6%)
Maybe win a few more races but his GT career is over
7 (41.2%)
Become a super domestique for Leaky's next big thing
4 (23.5%)
Get sent to a factory to be turned into glue
3 (17.6%)

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Basso: out to pasture?
« on: May 26, 2012, 17:10 »
Basso.

Looks to me like there's no more of this ...



So is it time for more of this ...



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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 17:32 »
    I voted "super domestique", as that's the role I'd like to see him in.
    In a cycling fantasy league, I (with team Liquigas) chose not to "keep" Basso (every team could reserve 5 riders from the actual roster), as I thought his best days were over.
    Most of the Giro, I cursed myself. Now, I'm proud of my own foresight! ;D

    In my opinion, Liquigas should promote Nibali to their main GT captain (provided he stays of course). With Basso, Szmyd, Caruso etc. as helpers... Oh my.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 17:50 »
    I seem to like the latter ;D Grouse location. Don't think he'll be one of the top GT contenders, but his preparation to the Giro also did seem lousy this year, didn't seem to have one good result even in the prep races.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 17:58 »
    Basso has really, really screwed up. He rode this race instead of Nibali, who would have had a great shot at his first Giro victory. The entire team worked their collective butts off for Basso, with no one even considering going into breakaways with any intention of winning a stage. It was all behind Basso for the entire Giro. And Basso is nowhere to be seen. He barely attacked at any time, he was never even close to Hesjedal, Scarponi and Rodriguez. And now he'll likely end up fifth, with no stages and nothing to show. Liquigas should be furious at Basso.

    For the next few years, if Liquigas manages to keep Nibali or sign another good GC rider, that rider should have free choice on what races to lead for, with Basso either racing the 'left over' GT (out of Giro and Tour) or be superdomestique for that other contender.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #4 on: May 26, 2012, 18:32 »
    When a King is on the way down, it never is a pretty sight, and teams often make all sort of decisions based on past glory and audience expectations, rather than actual form and abilities.

    When JRod jumped away from him today, that is as close as he will get to a GT win from this point out. Maybe/Probably even a GT podium.

    When your team has been riding you on a throne all the way to the penultimate day of the Giro, and the rest hasn't really been hammering you into the ground with pounding attacks either..... a Basso can't show up without having the legs.

    It could well be that this was the transition year that you need as an Italian team, for an Italian audience, before letting slowly go... Which would have been brilliant if you had prince Nibali in the wings.

    It looks like that bird has flown though.

    Which, to be brutally honest, is probably why Nibali is not at the Giro and Basso is. Nibali would take all those Golden Points away with him, and Liquigas thought they had a good chance at a MR with Basso and and keep that golden sack of UCI points. Or, worst case scenario, just a bag with still a decent amount of points, but at least one that is in all likelihood one for your own pockets. If I was team leader, sending Nibs to the other 2nd biggest GT isn't all that dumb after all.

    Thank you UCI for another instrument that is meant to spice things up, but hurts cycling instead.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 19:18 »
    Will Basso ride the Vuelta?

    He still could finish 3rd and on the podium tomorrow if he can TT well and Scarponi and JRod have a terrible TTs.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #6 on: May 26, 2012, 21:30 »
    He could win the Vuelta next year maybe, if Contador doesn't ride.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 23:17 »
    I think its over for Basso.

    A shame, i felt his career deserved at least 1 more gt but alas, there are only 3 gts a year and it is not easy to win one.

    Having said that, last time Basso sucked this hard in the Giro he went on to have an amazing Tour :P
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #8 on: May 27, 2012, 06:28 »
    yep, time to dom for someone else.

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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #9 on: May 27, 2012, 12:08 »
    In a post-Puerto peloton, it was enough for Basso to win a Giro. That seems like a neat little narrative. Indeed, putting injuries and illness aside, he never seemed to me to be that committed to anything else. Like Boonen, whose season is nowadays over after Roubaix, whether or not he had a good Classics campaign.

    Basso didn't look quite sharp enough this year, even though he matched the best a lot of the time. His team however was excellent. It will be that much harder for Basso to get up and start over after this Giro.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #10 on: May 27, 2012, 12:17 »
    It's not over yet. He maybe won't win the Giro anymore, but he won't go down like this. He'll fight back.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #11 on: May 28, 2012, 15:33 »
    Just not enough form I think, he has another good Giro in him; maybe not win it but at least podium it. He should focus on the Vuelta the next 2 years as well. After that he might be a superdomestique in 2014
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #12 on: May 29, 2012, 02:56 »
    Hope to see Basso in the Tour.
    Due to circumstances, the GIRO was irrelevant to a lot of riders.
    Basso will never be a gregorio.
    If Contador is not in the GT, Basso has a chance of winning.
    Maybe 2013 GIRO?
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #13 on: May 29, 2012, 12:12 »
    He should retire.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #14 on: May 29, 2012, 12:14 »
    He should retire.

    he should super DOM for Evans
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 12:17 »
    he should super DOM for Evans

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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 12:18 »
    To be fair to Basso, he is heeding zam's advice. How many races has he not retired from this year?
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #17 on: May 29, 2012, 20:17 »
    I think his best years are behind him but Basso is a leader pur sang, I doubt he will do Superdomestiqueing for someone a la Sylvester Szmyd. It would show great class should he do it but I can not see him do it, to be honest he has had a too "great" career to become the Gregario.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #18 on: May 29, 2012, 21:44 »
    I think his best years are behind him but Basso is a leader pur sang, I doubt he will do Superdomestiqueing for someone a la Sylvester Szmyd. It would show great class should he do it but I can not see him do it, to be honest he has had a too "great" career to become the Gregario.

    Has Basso not said he is going to the TdF to help Nibali win! Is that not superdomestiquing?

    It must be hard for someone like Basso to reach this crossroad in his career. Even harder to have been behind Scarponi this year at not be No.1 Italian at the Giro. But plenty realise that unless they have something for them after cycling it is hard to give up and continue as long as they can. Plenty have continued, Rebellin, Di Luca to name 2 and then there are the grandads of the peloton, Horner and Voight. He will be 35 in Nov. I reckon he will be at the Giro next year on a bike.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #19 on: June 18, 2012, 04:43 »
    Has he got his New Zealand or Welsh license?
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #20 on: January 01, 2014, 11:43 »
    Interesting interview with Basso and his plans for 2014

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/exclusive-basso-looks-to-the-future-and-targets-the-giro-ditalia

    It seems even the management aren't putting pressure on him for results.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #21 on: January 01, 2014, 13:39 »
    He has never impressed me. I've never understood all the hoopla. well maybe at one time he was good before that postal snafu but since then zilch. his sister however hoochie coochie coo  ;)
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #22 on: January 01, 2014, 14:35 »
    Another one who won't be missed after his eventual swansong.

    Best I have seen him for years was 2012 tour of Britain which maybe said something more about the field in that race.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #23 on: January 02, 2014, 13:31 »
    Wow - Basso really has been demoted in the team publicity



    I suspect all that talk of Basso swapping Cannondale for Astana was really all about him trying avoid a pay cut.
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #24 on: January 03, 2014, 10:35 »
    Surprised any journos are still giving this guy airtime, amazed he himself still thinks he's capable of anything. He really must only be there for the Italian market now.

    I can smell the glue from here ...
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #25 on: January 03, 2014, 10:39 »
    And it is drying..
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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #26 on: December 15, 2014, 23:42 »
    So is it time for more of this ...



    one more now

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    Re: Basso: out to pasture?
    « Reply #27 on: December 16, 2014, 00:01 »
    one more now



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